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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,627 --> 00:00:03,587 Look at that jumping. Look‐it, it is going nuts. 2 00:00:03,587 --> 00:00:06,006 Radiation spikes keep occurring across the ranch. 3 00:00:06,006 --> 00:00:08,175 I get my biggest readings looking up. 4 00:00:08,175 --> 00:00:09,635 TRAVIS: It's coming from the sky. 5 00:00:09,635 --> 00:00:12,513 The measurements lead us to a spot one mile high. 6 00:00:12,513 --> 00:00:14,514 Ignition. 7 00:00:14,514 --> 00:00:17,893 The team and I sent up rockets to try and identify the source. 8 00:00:17,893 --> 00:00:19,895 ‐We got something. Hold on. ‐Look, look, look! ‐What is that? 9 00:00:19,895 --> 00:00:21,188 TRAVIS: That wasn't a plane. 10 00:00:21,188 --> 00:00:22,481 ‐Oh, there it is again! ‐There it is again! 11 00:00:22,481 --> 00:00:23,857 ‐It's still in the same spot! ‐Right there. 12 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:25,234 TRAVIS: Let's look at the surveillance footage 13 00:00:25,234 --> 00:00:26,693 and see if there's something in it. 14 00:00:26,693 --> 00:00:28,445 There it is. We saw a UFO. 15 00:00:34,701 --> 00:00:38,455 NARRATOR: There is a ranch in Northern Utah. 16 00:00:38,455 --> 00:00:41,041 It is considered the epicenter 17 00:00:41,041 --> 00:00:45,754 of the strangest and most disturbing phenomena on Earth: 18 00:00:45,754 --> 00:00:48,131 animal mutilations, 19 00:00:48,131 --> 00:00:50,509 bizarre UFO sightings 20 00:00:50,509 --> 00:00:55,722 and unusual energies that have proven harmful to humans. 21 00:00:55,722 --> 00:00:58,225 For 20 years, the federal government 22 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:01,603 tried to find answers and failed. 23 00:01:01,603 --> 00:01:05,691 Now a new team of dedicated scientists, 24 00:01:05,691 --> 00:01:09,570 researchers and experts has taken over. 25 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:13,574 They are determined to solve the mystery and reveal... 26 00:01:15,742 --> 00:01:19,162 ...The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch. 27 00:01:23,250 --> 00:01:25,002 (insects chirping) 28 00:01:33,969 --> 00:01:36,680 (bird warbling in distance) 29 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,099 (dog barking) 30 00:01:42,185 --> 00:01:44,062 TRAVIS: Gol' dang it, William. 31 00:01:44,062 --> 00:01:46,898 What are you barking at? 32 00:01:46,898 --> 00:01:48,859 So, William just woke me up. 33 00:01:48,859 --> 00:01:52,237 It's, like, 4:51 a. m. in the morning, 34 00:01:52,237 --> 00:01:53,864 and he's barking like crazy, 35 00:01:53,864 --> 00:01:56,283 and he took off running out across the field. 36 00:01:56,283 --> 00:01:59,328 I'm gonna go see if I can see what it was. 37 00:01:59,328 --> 00:02:00,579 (unlocking door) 38 00:02:02,789 --> 00:02:04,791 (sighs) 39 00:02:04,791 --> 00:02:08,045 All right, William, what are you barking at? 40 00:02:08,045 --> 00:02:09,880 For the past few days, 41 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,132 I've been staying overnight on the ranch. 42 00:02:12,132 --> 00:02:14,343 That way, I can catch strange things as they're happening, 43 00:02:14,343 --> 00:02:18,388 but I wasn't expecting those things to happen so soon. 44 00:02:18,388 --> 00:02:20,265 Sounds like there's something 45 00:02:20,265 --> 00:02:22,517 just screeching in the background. 46 00:02:22,517 --> 00:02:25,312 (distant, rhythmic crackling) 47 00:02:25,312 --> 00:02:26,813 I... I don't know what that is, 48 00:02:26,813 --> 00:02:28,690 but I'm gonna go look on the spectrum analyzer 49 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:32,110 and see if maybe... maybe it's something on it. 50 00:02:33,654 --> 00:02:35,489 Maybe... this sound 51 00:02:35,489 --> 00:02:37,949 has something to do with the crazy microwave signals 52 00:02:37,949 --> 00:02:39,534 we've been seeing. 53 00:02:39,534 --> 00:02:43,580 (sighs) Turn this computer on. 54 00:02:43,580 --> 00:02:45,499 Um... 55 00:02:49,378 --> 00:02:51,713 All right, let's turn this thing on. 56 00:02:51,713 --> 00:02:54,800 (low, electronic crackling) 57 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,386 What is that? 58 00:02:57,386 --> 00:02:59,888 I'm not sure what I'm seeing. 59 00:02:59,888 --> 00:03:01,932 Wow! 60 00:03:01,932 --> 00:03:04,810 I mean, the‐the... there's a signal oscillating up and down 61 00:03:04,810 --> 00:03:06,978 between, like, 20‐something meg... 62 00:03:06,978 --> 00:03:10,065 26‐ish megahertz 63 00:03:10,065 --> 00:03:12,526 all the way up to two gigahertz. 64 00:03:12,526 --> 00:03:14,277 This is crazy. 65 00:03:14,277 --> 00:03:16,154 I'm getting a huge and constant level 66 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:19,574 of radio waves across the entire frequency spectral band. 67 00:03:19,574 --> 00:03:22,911 It's like turning on a radio and having every single station 68 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:26,164 playing the exact same song at the exact same level. 69 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:30,043 Now, if I move it across, look at the signal. 70 00:03:30,043 --> 00:03:33,547 It's extremely sinusoidal, and it has a lot of structure. 71 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:36,216 I've never seen anything like it. 72 00:03:36,216 --> 00:03:39,803 It just keeps on going all the way across the spectrum. 73 00:03:39,803 --> 00:03:41,972 Wow! 74 00:03:41,972 --> 00:03:44,307 That's just insane. 75 00:03:44,307 --> 00:03:47,602 I don't... I don't know what to think about this. 76 00:03:47,602 --> 00:03:50,814 I've never seen anything like it in my life. 77 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,069 ♪ ♪ 78 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:04,244 I called you guys here 'cause I wanted to talk to you about 79 00:04:04,244 --> 00:04:05,829 what happened to me this morning. 80 00:04:05,829 --> 00:04:09,332 You know, at, uh, 4:51, William woke me up barking, 81 00:04:09,332 --> 00:04:11,501 and I went outside to see if I could figure out 82 00:04:11,501 --> 00:04:14,087 what he was barking at, and‐and I hear off in the distance 83 00:04:14,087 --> 00:04:16,465 this weird "wah, wah, wah." 84 00:04:16,465 --> 00:04:19,593 So I figured I'd go in and look on the spectrum analyzer, 85 00:04:19,593 --> 00:04:22,429 and I'm seeing all these signals, from the microwave band 86 00:04:22,429 --> 00:04:26,433 all the way down past the ham bands at 35 megahertz. 87 00:04:26,433 --> 00:04:28,643 Now, to do that, it would be... 88 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:30,604 I don't even know how we would do that. 89 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,355 That's... it's‐it's almost impossible. 90 00:04:32,355 --> 00:04:34,775 Since I've been here with the team 91 00:04:34,775 --> 00:04:36,067 investigating Skinwalker Ranc, 92 00:04:36,067 --> 00:04:37,986 a lot of strange and bizarre things 93 00:04:37,986 --> 00:04:39,237 have been happening. 94 00:04:40,739 --> 00:04:43,158 ‐Look, look. Did you see that? ‐What is that? 95 00:04:43,158 --> 00:04:45,452 We've seen strange lights and glowing effects 96 00:04:45,452 --> 00:04:46,953 coming off the mesa. 97 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:48,789 My head is hurting bad. 98 00:04:48,789 --> 00:04:50,499 Well, let's get you the heck out of here, man. 99 00:04:50,499 --> 00:04:52,834 We've had people suddenly getting lightheaded 100 00:04:52,834 --> 00:04:54,377 or, in the case of Tom Winterton, 101 00:04:54,377 --> 00:04:57,214 getting severe pain and swelling in their scalp. 102 00:04:57,214 --> 00:04:59,341 Look‐it, it's going nuts. 103 00:04:59,341 --> 00:05:02,135 We've discovered that dangerous levels of transient radiation 104 00:05:02,135 --> 00:05:05,597 are coming from an area about a mile above the ranch. 105 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:07,015 It's coming from up there. 106 00:05:07,015 --> 00:05:09,059 And when we tried to investigate it 107 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:11,937 with a weather balloon, it just disappeared without a trace. 108 00:05:11,937 --> 00:05:13,688 ‐Where the hell is it? ‐Oh, wow. 109 00:05:13,688 --> 00:05:15,440 And then, just one week ago... 110 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,234 ‐Ignition. ‐...we launched a series 111 00:05:17,234 --> 00:05:19,152 of rockets up into that same spot... 112 00:05:19,152 --> 00:05:21,571 ‐Look, look, look. ‐What is that? ‐...and suddenly... 113 00:05:21,571 --> 00:05:23,198 ‐There it is again! ‐...the entire team 114 00:05:23,198 --> 00:05:27,035 witnessed two UFOs, clear as day. 115 00:05:27,035 --> 00:05:28,662 THOMAS: It's gone. 116 00:05:28,662 --> 00:05:32,707 So, here's one thing that it could possibly mean. 117 00:05:32,707 --> 00:05:35,502 This might sound crazy, but what if the only way 118 00:05:35,502 --> 00:05:38,630 to explain all these things is... 119 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:42,759 ...with a wormhole? 120 00:05:46,972 --> 00:05:48,849 Now, although the existence of wormholes 121 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,268 hasn't been proven yet, Albert Einstein theorized 122 00:05:51,268 --> 00:05:53,812 that they do exist, and assuming you have 123 00:05:53,812 --> 00:05:55,939 a massive amount of energy to cause one, 124 00:05:55,939 --> 00:05:57,566 they could connect two different points 125 00:05:57,566 --> 00:05:59,359 in space and time. 126 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:02,279 I know it's a far‐fetched idea, but it's about the only thing 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,490 that I can think of that could be responsible for everything 128 00:06:05,490 --> 00:06:07,951 that's been reported to have happened up here. 129 00:06:07,951 --> 00:06:10,537 So, imagine you've got... 130 00:06:10,537 --> 00:06:12,122 a bowl... 131 00:06:12,122 --> 00:06:14,082 that's the Uinta Basin. 132 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,792 ‐Okay. ‐And it's roughly... 133 00:06:15,792 --> 00:06:18,628 70 miles... 134 00:06:18,628 --> 00:06:20,422 in diameter across, right? 135 00:06:20,422 --> 00:06:24,217 Well, and it's gonna focus like this big satellite dish. 136 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:27,095 Whatever energy hits it, it's gonna be focused back up 137 00:06:27,095 --> 00:06:28,805 to a single point. 138 00:06:28,805 --> 00:06:30,390 So, what does that mean? 139 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:33,935 Is this the spot where something weird is happening, 140 00:06:33,935 --> 00:06:36,021 where all this energy is being created 141 00:06:36,021 --> 00:06:38,273 where there was events happening? 142 00:06:38,273 --> 00:06:40,233 Are you thinking of this location 143 00:06:40,233 --> 00:06:43,153 as‐as a place where the energy is emanating from 144 00:06:43,153 --> 00:06:45,697 or a place where it's being harvested? 145 00:06:45,697 --> 00:06:46,907 TRAVIS: That's a good question. 146 00:06:46,907 --> 00:06:49,284 What if the Uinta Basin‐‐ 147 00:06:49,284 --> 00:06:51,453 it's got jaggies and things in it‐‐ 148 00:06:51,453 --> 00:06:53,622 it could be looking like a lens, and the source 149 00:06:53,622 --> 00:06:56,082 could be beneath it, and it could be underground 150 00:06:56,082 --> 00:06:58,084 from the center of the Earth coming up 151 00:06:58,084 --> 00:06:59,919 and then being focused to a point. 152 00:07:01,921 --> 00:07:05,925 But the point is, there is a bunch of energy 153 00:07:05,925 --> 00:07:08,637 being focused into a single, tiny spot. 154 00:07:08,637 --> 00:07:12,015 And the question is: 155 00:07:12,015 --> 00:07:14,809 Is this crazy signal we're seeing... 156 00:07:14,809 --> 00:07:16,603 doing that? 157 00:07:16,603 --> 00:07:19,189 Is it creating some type of event 158 00:07:19,189 --> 00:07:21,566 that is something like Einstein, you know, theor... 159 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:23,109 was theorizing, and then... 160 00:07:23,109 --> 00:07:25,320 is like you see in science‐fiction movies? 161 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,322 So, in other words, what we're saying is that 162 00:07:27,322 --> 00:07:30,200 to us, standing here, this could look like an orb to us. 163 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,410 Or it could look like a portal to us. 164 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:35,997 We have all these crazy gamma and neutrons. 165 00:07:35,997 --> 00:07:37,624 It could also create 166 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:39,959 some of the weird other RF signals that we're seeing. 167 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:40,960 That's a really good point. 168 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,253 ‐Yeah. ‐Yeah. 169 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:45,173 In 2016, I purchased Skinwalker Ranch 170 00:07:45,173 --> 00:07:46,966 from Robert Bigelow. 171 00:07:46,966 --> 00:07:49,552 Prior to transfer of ownership, 172 00:07:49,552 --> 00:07:53,014 Bigelow cautioned me that we were dealing with forces 173 00:07:53,014 --> 00:07:54,891 that are very powerful, 174 00:07:54,891 --> 00:07:58,436 that are not easily understood or characterized. 175 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,523 There are amazing stories 176 00:08:01,523 --> 00:08:04,317 claiming that one of the most interesting observations 177 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:07,320 made by not only Bigelow's team but others 178 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,114 is the presence of portals 179 00:08:09,114 --> 00:08:11,908 that have appeared in the area of the homesteads. 180 00:08:11,908 --> 00:08:13,326 Literally midair, 181 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:16,037 they've seen truly a window 182 00:08:16,037 --> 00:08:18,581 into what appeared to be another world‐‐ 183 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:21,668 other skylines or other landscapes 184 00:08:21,668 --> 00:08:24,212 that they could see through those portals 185 00:08:24,212 --> 00:08:27,006 that‐that are difficult to describe. 186 00:08:28,299 --> 00:08:30,093 You realize how... 187 00:08:30,093 --> 00:08:32,137 ‐outlandish this whole thing... ‐It sounds crazy and nuts. 188 00:08:32,137 --> 00:08:34,556 Absolutely crazy and nuts, and this is the only theory 189 00:08:34,556 --> 00:08:36,808 ‐we've come up with yet. ‐That encompasses all of... 190 00:08:36,808 --> 00:08:39,227 That‐that‐that everything we've measured, heard, seen, 191 00:08:39,227 --> 00:08:41,020 stories, craziness, 192 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:45,442 it all can be tied into this explanation. 193 00:08:45,442 --> 00:08:48,820 But it's interesting that we've got at least a hypothesis. 194 00:08:48,820 --> 00:08:51,865 Energy's coming from the Earth, and it's getting focused 195 00:08:51,865 --> 00:08:54,367 ‐to a spot up there, but... ‐Yeah. 196 00:08:54,367 --> 00:08:56,578 ...a hypothesis isn't worth anything 197 00:08:56,578 --> 00:08:58,288 unless you can create an experiment 198 00:08:58,288 --> 00:08:59,789 to test that hypothesis. 199 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:04,044 So we understand the hypothesis. 200 00:09:04,044 --> 00:09:06,921 I think we go and figure out if the energy source 201 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:08,923 may be coming from inside the Earth. 202 00:09:08,923 --> 00:09:11,051 That's here under Skinwalker Ranch. 203 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:13,053 We should go and see if we can measure 204 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:14,804 these weird signals down there. 205 00:09:14,804 --> 00:09:17,223 We need to do ground‐penetrating radar. 206 00:09:17,223 --> 00:09:20,810 We've got to do resistivity measurements out in the field. 207 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:22,520 Now, there's an experiment we could do. 208 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,774 Yeah. It gives us a place to start looking. 209 00:09:25,774 --> 00:09:27,192 TRAVIS: So maybe that's it. 210 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:28,860 Maybe the tremendous energy source 211 00:09:28,860 --> 00:09:31,112 we would have to have to produce this portal effect 212 00:09:31,112 --> 00:09:32,906 is located deep underground. 213 00:09:32,906 --> 00:09:36,409 That would validate what Eric suspected all along. 214 00:09:36,409 --> 00:09:38,578 All right, so I say we quit talking about it, 215 00:09:38,578 --> 00:09:40,330 and then we get up and go start figuring out 216 00:09:40,330 --> 00:09:42,082 ‐what we got to do to do it. ‐I agree. 217 00:09:42,082 --> 00:09:44,375 ‐All right, let's do this. ‐Okay, cool. ‐Okay. 218 00:09:53,093 --> 00:09:55,970 TRAVIS: Because we don't know if the strange radiation surges 219 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:57,680 we've been getting are coming 220 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,808 from high above the ranch or below it, 221 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:02,060 we've invited a team of experts to come up here 222 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:05,271 and conduct a series of noninvasive tests. 223 00:10:05,271 --> 00:10:06,773 ‐How's it going? ‐Good. How are you? 224 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:08,024 ‐Good. ‐That way, 225 00:10:08,024 --> 00:10:09,609 if there really is something dangerous 226 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:10,902 or life‐threatening underground, 227 00:10:10,902 --> 00:10:12,987 we might be able to find out what it is 228 00:10:12,987 --> 00:10:14,948 before we start digging. 229 00:10:14,948 --> 00:10:18,284 We haven't done experiments yet 230 00:10:18,284 --> 00:10:20,120 to look beneath the surface. 231 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,621 ‐Okay. ‐So, we've been doing 232 00:10:21,621 --> 00:10:23,206 some measurements with these signals 233 00:10:23,206 --> 00:10:25,291 that we've been picking up, 234 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:28,169 and we've kind of triangulated a few hot spots, 235 00:10:28,169 --> 00:10:29,462 and this is the starting line. 236 00:10:29,462 --> 00:10:31,297 And anywhere there's a roadway, 237 00:10:31,297 --> 00:10:34,134 flat surface along all the way from the gate on the east end 238 00:10:34,134 --> 00:10:37,470 to the fence on the west end, just start mapping it out. 239 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:39,514 Then we'll go from there to the mesa, 240 00:10:39,514 --> 00:10:42,433 and then maybe out into the field and around the homesteads. 241 00:10:42,433 --> 00:10:43,726 Okay. 242 00:10:43,726 --> 00:10:45,186 Since there is so much varied area 243 00:10:45,186 --> 00:10:46,646 of Skinwalker Ranch to cover, 244 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:48,314 we decided to use two different methods 245 00:10:48,314 --> 00:10:49,983 to search below the surface. 246 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,653 One is GPR, or ground‐penetrating radar, 247 00:10:53,653 --> 00:10:56,364 which works by sending radio waves down into the earth 248 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:59,826 that will bounce off of any solid objects or structures. 249 00:10:59,826 --> 00:11:02,328 And soil resistivity, 250 00:11:02,328 --> 00:11:03,830 which does pretty much the same thing, 251 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:06,166 but it uses metal stakes and wires 252 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:08,668 to send electrical currents down into the ground. 253 00:11:08,668 --> 00:11:11,838 So, what we should do is kind of divide and conquer. 254 00:11:11,838 --> 00:11:14,048 I think, uh, half of us will work 255 00:11:14,048 --> 00:11:16,176 on the ground‐penetrating radar, and the other half 256 00:11:16,176 --> 00:11:18,386 will do the resistivity measurements. 257 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,263 Truck's right here, it's a good place to start. 258 00:11:20,263 --> 00:11:22,807 So just pull the equipment out, and let's‐let's just get going. 259 00:11:22,807 --> 00:11:24,434 ‐All right, sounds good. ‐Let's get her out. 260 00:11:24,434 --> 00:11:26,519 ‐Let's get to it. ‐ERIK: Here on the ranch, 261 00:11:26,519 --> 00:11:30,732 we have seen a correlation between digging activities 262 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:33,193 and some injuries to individuals. 263 00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,028 So I've taken the position 264 00:11:35,028 --> 00:11:36,863 that invasive activities like digging 265 00:11:36,863 --> 00:11:41,492 should be first justified by less invasive methods. 266 00:11:41,492 --> 00:11:44,037 Come on back. Ho, ho, ho. 267 00:11:44,037 --> 00:11:46,039 ERIK: A good example of that is the GPR survey 268 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,041 and the resistivity measurements. 269 00:11:48,041 --> 00:11:51,544 Those are the kinds of things that put exercises like digging 270 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:54,297 or drilling on a more firm foundation. 271 00:11:54,297 --> 00:11:58,551 Particularly in view of the fact that human safety 272 00:11:58,551 --> 00:12:02,472 and life is held in the balance. 273 00:12:02,472 --> 00:12:05,058 We've got everything loaded to do the resistivity measurements. 274 00:12:05,058 --> 00:12:07,560 So, uh, why don't we take it over there, and you guys 275 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:09,229 are gonna continue with the GPR, right? 276 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:10,563 ‐Correct. ‐All right. 277 00:12:10,563 --> 00:12:12,232 I gave them the flags. Mark the spots 278 00:12:12,232 --> 00:12:13,399 if you find anything weird. 279 00:12:13,399 --> 00:12:14,567 All right. Let's load up. 280 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:15,777 ‐Sounds good. ‐Let's roll. 281 00:12:15,777 --> 00:12:17,445 I got shotgun. 282 00:12:21,074 --> 00:12:23,243 PHIL: So, guys, what we'll be doing now 283 00:12:23,243 --> 00:12:24,953 is we're gonna be pulling this. 284 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:27,080 Uh, this is our GX160. 285 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,791 we're gonna be pulling it behind this ATV. 286 00:12:29,791 --> 00:12:32,377 And we'll figure out a suitable way to pull that. 287 00:12:32,377 --> 00:12:34,629 I think I've got an idea of how we can do it 288 00:12:34,629 --> 00:12:36,256 ‐so it doesn't slide around. ‐Right. 289 00:12:36,256 --> 00:12:39,425 Okay, and then we'll use the dual‐frequency system 290 00:12:39,425 --> 00:12:41,636 to do the homestead work. 291 00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:43,930 ‐Sounds great. ‐Cool. All right. 292 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:47,642 What we're going to do is pull this latch up. 293 00:12:47,642 --> 00:12:53,147 And then what we'll do here is we've got two power buttons. 294 00:12:53,147 --> 00:12:55,817 We've got a power button on the monitor, 295 00:12:55,817 --> 00:12:58,319 and we have one down here on the antenna, 296 00:12:58,319 --> 00:13:01,614 and that will fire the system up. 297 00:13:06,119 --> 00:13:08,454 PHIL: Oh, my gosh. 298 00:13:08,454 --> 00:13:12,250 This was fully charged, so I'm... it's‐it's a mystery. 299 00:13:12,250 --> 00:13:14,085 ERIK: So, we can't start now? 300 00:13:14,085 --> 00:13:16,129 We actually can't start with this system. 301 00:13:16,129 --> 00:13:19,007 At least with the‐the battery this low. 302 00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:21,509 ERIK: Why would it be down in the red now? 303 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:23,344 That's a good question, because it... 304 00:13:23,344 --> 00:13:25,471 the system has to be on 305 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:28,558 in order for it to utilize those lithium‐ion batteries. 306 00:13:30,143 --> 00:13:32,854 Uh, why don't we check the other system? 307 00:13:32,854 --> 00:13:35,023 It was completely powered, too, and let's just see 308 00:13:35,023 --> 00:13:37,900 ‐what the batteries look like on that. ‐Yeah that's a good idea. 309 00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:40,069 ERIK: It's not uncommon that we experience problems 310 00:13:40,069 --> 00:13:43,656 with battery‐powered systems on this property. 311 00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,825 Everything from mobile devices, including our cell phones, 312 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:48,828 our tablets, uh, laptop computers, 313 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,830 audio/video equipment, 314 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:53,583 have experienced some kind of an anomaly, 315 00:13:53,583 --> 00:13:57,045 as a result of some influence that is prevalent on the ranch. 316 00:13:57,045 --> 00:13:59,505 Dude, I will tell my phone battery just went... 317 00:13:59,505 --> 00:14:01,883 ‐(blows raspberry) ‐Your battery's dead on your phone? 318 00:14:01,883 --> 00:14:03,718 TRAVIS: Yeah. Your battery's dead, too, ain't it? 319 00:14:03,718 --> 00:14:06,179 It shut off. 320 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,264 ‐Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch, right? ‐Right. 321 00:14:08,264 --> 00:14:11,851 I completely charged these four batteries 322 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:15,021 last evening, and now they're into the... 323 00:14:15,021 --> 00:14:16,522 to the yellow section. 324 00:14:18,024 --> 00:14:19,776 ERIK: When have you seen that before? 325 00:14:19,776 --> 00:14:21,986 I, quite frankly, have not seen that before. 326 00:14:24,030 --> 00:14:26,157 ERIK: Hey, Bryant? Come here, check this out. 327 00:14:26,157 --> 00:14:27,950 So, Phil, would you like to explain what you just... 328 00:14:27,950 --> 00:14:29,702 Right, we were getting some highly unusual 329 00:14:29,702 --> 00:14:31,287 battery level there. 330 00:14:31,287 --> 00:14:33,706 Uh, we should be seeing full power there, 331 00:14:33,706 --> 00:14:35,458 and we're seeing about 50%, so... 332 00:14:35,458 --> 00:14:38,377 BRYANT: It's another damn battery that's getting trashed. 333 00:14:38,377 --> 00:14:40,463 I guess we'll just keep an eye on it. 334 00:14:40,463 --> 00:14:43,049 I guess you go until it goes off. 335 00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:44,842 ‐All right. ‐Yep. 336 00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:48,387 ERIK: We've decided to proceed by dragging 337 00:14:48,387 --> 00:14:51,224 one of the instruments behind the UTV. 338 00:14:51,224 --> 00:14:54,811 So, what I did is I ran a wire underneath here, 339 00:14:54,811 --> 00:14:57,688 attached to the body, to hold this tight. 340 00:14:57,688 --> 00:14:59,899 ‐PHIL: Looks very solid to me. ‐All right. 341 00:14:59,899 --> 00:15:01,651 ‐Let's go drag this thing. ‐ERIK: Yeah? 342 00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:05,905 Just want you to see it. 343 00:15:05,905 --> 00:15:07,615 ‐ERIK: What is it doing? ‐I don't know. 344 00:15:07,615 --> 00:15:09,283 It's just been... it's just been doing this 345 00:15:09,283 --> 00:15:10,785 for the last, you know, couple minutes. 346 00:15:10,785 --> 00:15:12,870 I just ran up here so you could see it. 347 00:15:12,870 --> 00:15:15,581 It was in my contacts, it tried calling a couple of people, 348 00:15:15,581 --> 00:15:18,417 um, and then it's been messing around in my camera 349 00:15:18,417 --> 00:15:20,086 the last couple minutes. 350 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:23,089 ‐When did this start? ‐About two, three minutes ago. 351 00:15:24,966 --> 00:15:26,884 ERIK: It's as if someone was pushing the buttons 352 00:15:26,884 --> 00:15:28,594 and, uh, switching between applications 353 00:15:28,594 --> 00:15:31,430 and sending messages and making phone calls 354 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:33,474 as fast as anyone could possibly do it. 355 00:15:33,474 --> 00:15:35,643 Dude, that is crazy. 356 00:15:35,643 --> 00:15:37,687 (laughing) 357 00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:43,317 We're laughing at it, but I'm not sure that we should be. 358 00:15:49,490 --> 00:15:52,493 TRAVIS: While Erik and Dragon are working with Phil Oviatt 359 00:15:52,493 --> 00:15:55,663 to run GPR from the command center to the old homesteads, 360 00:15:55,663 --> 00:15:58,624 Jim, Tom and I are heading out with Zach Zyla 361 00:15:58,624 --> 00:16:00,668 to do a soil resistivity survey. 362 00:16:00,668 --> 00:16:05,631 So, Zach, we're interested in this field out here. 363 00:16:05,631 --> 00:16:08,634 There's some rumors and stories and myths 364 00:16:08,634 --> 00:16:10,469 and all sorts of things. 365 00:16:10,469 --> 00:16:14,098 There might be underground facilities 366 00:16:14,098 --> 00:16:17,685 or bases or other stuff inside this field out here. 367 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:18,978 ‐ZACH: Yep. ‐So, if there's something 368 00:16:18,978 --> 00:16:21,314 besides a field in it, let us know. 369 00:16:21,314 --> 00:16:23,274 ZACH: All right. 370 00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:25,318 TRAVIS: All right, so what do we need to do to get started? 371 00:16:25,318 --> 00:16:27,320 ZACH: All right, well let's, uh, get the gear out of the truck 372 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:28,696 and, uh, start laying out the lines. 373 00:16:28,696 --> 00:16:30,823 All right. 374 00:16:30,823 --> 00:16:32,033 All right, so what goes first? 375 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:33,743 ZACH: So, every six feet, we're gonna 376 00:16:33,743 --> 00:16:35,328 ‐place one of these into the ground. ‐All right. 377 00:16:35,328 --> 00:16:36,662 And then you're gonna start. 378 00:16:36,662 --> 00:16:38,247 And you're gonna want to pound it in 379 00:16:38,247 --> 00:16:39,332 about three‐quarters of the way 380 00:16:39,332 --> 00:16:40,875 so we get good contact into the ground. 381 00:16:40,875 --> 00:16:42,335 ‐TRAVIS: All right. ‐Next, 382 00:16:42,335 --> 00:16:44,253 you're gonna take one of these connector cables 383 00:16:44,253 --> 00:16:46,589 and connect it to the base. 384 00:16:46,589 --> 00:16:49,342 And we're gonna keep moving it along all the way to the end. 385 00:16:49,342 --> 00:16:51,802 You know what, you drive stakes, I'll clip wires. How's that? 386 00:16:51,802 --> 00:16:53,596 SEGALA: I could do that. 387 00:17:00,937 --> 00:17:03,522 ZACH: All right, so let me get started. 388 00:17:03,522 --> 00:17:06,359 How quick will it take us to actually see something, Zach? 389 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,027 Hopefully, not more than about ten minutes. 390 00:17:08,027 --> 00:17:09,028 Okay. 391 00:17:09,028 --> 00:17:10,363 ZACH: All right. 392 00:17:10,363 --> 00:17:11,530 The line is hot, 393 00:17:11,530 --> 00:17:13,032 so everyone please be careful. 394 00:17:13,032 --> 00:17:14,367 It's about to start measuring, and hopefully 395 00:17:14,367 --> 00:17:15,701 we can get some, uh, good data. 396 00:17:15,701 --> 00:17:16,911 All right, well, good. 397 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,496 Uh, I guess we just wait. 398 00:17:22,250 --> 00:17:24,877 ERIK: Am I holding a speed that you like there? 399 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:26,921 ‐PHIL: Yeah, you're good. ‐Okay. 400 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:29,924 It's gonna get a little bumpy here. 401 00:17:29,924 --> 00:17:31,759 BRYANT: Yeah, I think it goes without saying 402 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:33,386 just be careful going through the dips. 403 00:17:33,386 --> 00:17:35,263 ERIK: Yeah. 404 00:17:35,263 --> 00:17:37,598 That thing works like a champ. 405 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:40,017 It does. 406 00:17:42,395 --> 00:17:44,480 Well, I'm anxious to get up by the homestead. 407 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,232 ‐Well, we're just about... ‐I know, I know, 408 00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:47,733 we're getting close. 409 00:17:52,029 --> 00:17:53,614 What was that? 410 00:17:53,614 --> 00:17:56,242 PHIL: I don't know. 411 00:17:56,242 --> 00:17:58,578 Could be... 412 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:00,580 I don't know what that is. 413 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,416 I mean, we certainly see a difference 414 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:05,418 than this garbage we've been seeing the whole way. 415 00:18:05,418 --> 00:18:06,711 ‐BRYANT: Right. ‐ERIK: Yeah, yeah. 416 00:18:06,711 --> 00:18:08,504 ‐That is unusual. ‐Yeah, it is. 417 00:18:08,504 --> 00:18:10,756 ERIK: So, as we're dragging the device behind us, 418 00:18:10,756 --> 00:18:12,925 Phil noticed that there was a structure. 419 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:14,677 Could have been something mundane. 420 00:18:14,677 --> 00:18:17,054 Could have something to do with the utilities on the property. 421 00:18:17,054 --> 00:18:19,932 So, for Phil's benefit, 422 00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:22,602 ‐you see that roof over there? ‐Yes. 423 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,438 BRYANT: Right in this grove of trees up on the left. 424 00:18:25,438 --> 00:18:27,273 ERIK: We call it Homestead Number Two. 425 00:18:27,273 --> 00:18:29,233 PHIL: Okay, got it, got it. 426 00:18:30,651 --> 00:18:32,737 Now, uh, look at this right here. 427 00:18:32,737 --> 00:18:33,779 ERIK: Okay. 428 00:18:33,779 --> 00:18:35,990 Whoa! I see that, I see that. 429 00:18:35,990 --> 00:18:38,284 How do you interpret that... that feature? 430 00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:40,620 PHIL: Well, it looks like a dome feature. 431 00:18:40,620 --> 00:18:44,123 ERIK: Then we see another interesting anomaly 432 00:18:44,123 --> 00:18:45,958 in the Homestead Two area, 433 00:18:45,958 --> 00:18:49,128 and we don't know what the origin of those... 434 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,297 structures really is. 435 00:18:51,297 --> 00:18:52,340 Look. 436 00:18:52,340 --> 00:18:53,758 Oh, wow! 437 00:18:53,758 --> 00:18:56,344 ‐What‐what does this? ‐I cannot tell you 438 00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,554 what's causing that. Man, it could be... 439 00:18:58,554 --> 00:19:01,724 it could be something buried, you know, metal. 440 00:19:01,724 --> 00:19:03,517 ‐Really? ‐Yes. 441 00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:14,445 PHIL: All right, let's halt the vehicle. I... 442 00:19:14,445 --> 00:19:16,530 ‐Another dome, you think? ‐Another dome. 443 00:19:16,530 --> 00:19:17,990 All right. 444 00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:19,950 PHIL: I'm looking laterally in the data, 445 00:19:19,950 --> 00:19:22,161 ‐Uh‐huh. ‐and it's been fairly consistent 446 00:19:22,161 --> 00:19:24,246 ‐through this whole area, ‐Uh‐huh. 447 00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:26,499 except we've seen features at... 448 00:19:26,499 --> 00:19:28,584 several different depths. 449 00:19:28,584 --> 00:19:30,086 But you say it could just be 450 00:19:30,086 --> 00:19:31,504 ‐a geological feature? ‐It could be, 451 00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,464 but it‐it... doesn't look like it to me. 452 00:19:33,464 --> 00:19:36,008 It looks anomalous. 453 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,718 We'll see if we can duplicate that 454 00:19:37,718 --> 00:19:39,595 ‐on the way back. ‐Okay. 455 00:19:39,595 --> 00:19:41,055 It'll be interesting to have a look 456 00:19:41,055 --> 00:19:42,390 ‐at all of these. ‐Sure. Okay. 457 00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:44,308 ‐Every one of the patterns. ‐Okay. 458 00:19:44,308 --> 00:19:47,228 You want to reshoot it all the way back? 459 00:19:47,228 --> 00:19:49,939 ‐Right. Just to‐to verify what we've seen. ‐Okay. 460 00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:53,734 You know, I was really excited just to get any data at all. 461 00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,569 You know, when we're talking about the possibility 462 00:19:55,569 --> 00:19:57,446 of metal structure, of course it's very exciting. 463 00:19:57,446 --> 00:19:59,865 But we need to go back in the other direction 464 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:02,159 to verify that we're not just seeing some artifact 465 00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:03,911 but that what we're seeing is real. 466 00:20:05,955 --> 00:20:09,583 BRYANT: So, right here is one of the domes we measured. 467 00:20:09,583 --> 00:20:11,836 ‐Oh, yeah. ‐It's not quite as evident 468 00:20:11,836 --> 00:20:13,713 as it was. 469 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,758 But you can sure see it. 470 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:19,635 And we had another one of those up here, too. 471 00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:20,678 ERIK: That's right. 472 00:20:20,678 --> 00:20:23,639 ‐Okay. ‐Uh... yeah. 473 00:20:23,639 --> 00:20:25,057 ‐There it comes. There it is. ‐You seeing it? 474 00:20:25,057 --> 00:20:27,184 There it is. Oh, my gosh. 475 00:20:27,184 --> 00:20:29,145 ‐That‐that's exactly what we saw before. ‐Okay. 476 00:20:29,145 --> 00:20:30,479 ‐Perfect. ‐Very distinct. 477 00:20:30,479 --> 00:20:32,273 ERIK: It's always exciting 478 00:20:32,273 --> 00:20:34,734 when you have anomalous data and you go back and take it 479 00:20:34,734 --> 00:20:36,944 a second time, and you get the same thing. 480 00:20:36,944 --> 00:20:38,988 And that's exactly what we've seen. 481 00:20:38,988 --> 00:20:43,033 We're seeing very interesting multilayer structures 482 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:46,495 at depths of anywhere from eight feet below the surface 483 00:20:46,495 --> 00:20:49,749 to 24, 25 feet below the surface. 484 00:20:50,708 --> 00:20:53,335 PHIL: All right. 485 00:20:53,335 --> 00:20:56,130 Stop right here, Erik. 486 00:20:56,130 --> 00:20:57,423 (engine shuts off) 487 00:20:57,423 --> 00:20:59,592 ‐Interesting. ‐Oh, wow. 488 00:21:01,427 --> 00:21:04,180 ‐I can see a couple of parallel features right here. ‐Uh‐huh. 489 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:06,474 We saw this in both directions. 490 00:21:06,474 --> 00:21:09,143 I‐I mean, you may be seeing the top and the base 491 00:21:09,143 --> 00:21:10,644 of a possible tunnel. 492 00:21:10,644 --> 00:21:13,063 And it opens up as you move this direction. 493 00:21:13,063 --> 00:21:17,443 So, we're looking at something quite large in here. 494 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:20,696 Oh, wow. I hate to point it out, but, you know, this is exactly 495 00:21:20,696 --> 00:21:22,323 where we were when we had the difficulty 496 00:21:22,323 --> 00:21:24,158 with the drone survey. 497 00:21:24,158 --> 00:21:25,701 ‐So, let's get going. ‐BRYANT: Yeah. 498 00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:28,037 ERIK: This is an area where we did try 499 00:21:28,037 --> 00:21:29,205 drone thermography measurements, 500 00:21:29,205 --> 00:21:31,040 but we were not successful, 501 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,084 due to some mysterious electromagnetic interference. 502 00:21:34,084 --> 00:21:36,420 DERRICK: No connection. 503 00:21:36,420 --> 00:21:40,049 We are in one of the most interesting 504 00:21:40,049 --> 00:21:43,093 and notorious regions of the ranch. 505 00:21:43,093 --> 00:21:44,637 This is Homestead Two. 506 00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:46,430 I'm wondering if this is coincidence. 507 00:21:46,430 --> 00:21:47,556 Clear as mud, Erik. 508 00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:49,308 It's what this place is. 509 00:21:54,396 --> 00:21:56,398 ZACHARY: Here we go. 510 00:21:56,398 --> 00:21:57,942 So, this is the raw data 511 00:21:57,942 --> 00:21:59,944 plotted over, you know, a 2‐D grid. 512 00:21:59,944 --> 00:22:01,862 So, blues are going to be more conductive, 513 00:22:01,862 --> 00:22:03,781 and reds are going to be more resistive. 514 00:22:03,781 --> 00:22:05,616 TRAVIS: More resistive might mean a hole. 515 00:22:05,616 --> 00:22:07,076 ZACHARY: Yep. 516 00:22:07,076 --> 00:22:10,079 ‐So, that‐that could be a cave? ‐Potentially. 517 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,665 We really need to post‐process it, 518 00:22:12,665 --> 00:22:14,041 um, and run it through an inversion 519 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:15,709 so that we can really say what's going on. 520 00:22:15,709 --> 00:22:16,961 TRAVIS: Once you do the post‐processing, 521 00:22:16,961 --> 00:22:18,629 ‐then we'll know more about it. ‐Yep. 522 00:22:18,629 --> 00:22:21,423 ERIK (over radio): Hey, Tom, you copy? 523 00:22:21,423 --> 00:22:23,592 THOMAS: Yeah, go ahead. 524 00:22:23,592 --> 00:22:26,053 ERIK: Hey, we're getting some really interesting readings 525 00:22:26,053 --> 00:22:28,138 out here at Homestead Two. 526 00:22:28,138 --> 00:22:29,765 I'd like to ask you to just drop whatever you're doing 527 00:22:29,765 --> 00:22:31,725 and bring some of Phil's extra gear out here 528 00:22:31,725 --> 00:22:34,103 so we can take a closer look at it. 529 00:22:34,103 --> 00:22:35,896 THOMAS: Okay, I'll grab the guys, 530 00:22:35,896 --> 00:22:37,273 and we'll grab the equipment and head that way. 531 00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:38,816 ERIK: Copy. 532 00:22:38,816 --> 00:22:40,693 Okay, just leave this, and we'll just head over? 533 00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:41,902 Yeah, we'll... I'll pack this in, 534 00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:43,237 and you guys can head over now. 535 00:22:44,405 --> 00:22:45,990 I don't know, man. 536 00:22:45,990 --> 00:22:47,783 ‐It‐it's... ‐Interesting area. 537 00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:49,285 It's too much of a coincidence all the time. 538 00:22:49,285 --> 00:22:50,411 Mm‐hmm. 539 00:22:50,411 --> 00:22:51,912 BRYANT: There they are. 540 00:22:51,912 --> 00:22:53,539 That was quick. 541 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:56,542 See what they got. 542 00:22:57,918 --> 00:23:00,087 ‐What's up, fellas? ‐TRAVIS: Hey. 543 00:23:00,087 --> 00:23:01,755 BRYANT: You said if you come across 544 00:23:01,755 --> 00:23:03,424 anything in‐interesting or intriguing, 545 00:23:03,424 --> 00:23:05,134 we should call you. 546 00:23:05,134 --> 00:23:07,177 ‐Yeah? You find something? ‐So, that's what we did, plus... 547 00:23:07,177 --> 00:23:09,763 We‐we found some dome features, 548 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:12,433 anywhere from eight to 25 feet, 549 00:23:12,433 --> 00:23:15,436 that are almost parallel with this structure over here. 550 00:23:15,436 --> 00:23:18,188 When you say "dome," are you talking a formation 551 00:23:18,188 --> 00:23:20,733 ‐or an opening or what? ‐Yes, like a... like a... 552 00:23:20,733 --> 00:23:22,484 It almost looked as though there was 553 00:23:22,484 --> 00:23:25,404 the top of the... of a tunnel and the base of a tunnel. 554 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:28,324 ‐Oh, a tunnel? ‐Yes, and it's interesting 555 00:23:28,324 --> 00:23:30,784 that it's parallel to this structure right here, as well. 556 00:23:30,784 --> 00:23:32,536 That's why we called you guys. 557 00:23:32,536 --> 00:23:35,205 We wanted you over here and... and to check this area out. 558 00:23:35,205 --> 00:23:37,041 See if we can see any correlation. 559 00:23:37,041 --> 00:23:38,876 Does it appear jagged, or does it appear smooth? 560 00:23:38,876 --> 00:23:39,919 PHIL: It's smooth. 561 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:41,503 So... so, we're‐we're seeing 562 00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:44,173 almost a domal‐type feature, and then it pinches 563 00:23:44,173 --> 00:23:45,966 into a... almost a point. 564 00:23:47,176 --> 00:23:48,385 BRYANT: It looks more like 565 00:23:48,385 --> 00:23:50,095 a hollow opening than anything. 566 00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,723 What I would suggest is to... is to scan this area 567 00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,058 with the wide range 568 00:23:54,058 --> 00:23:55,517 and see if we see any correlation 569 00:23:55,517 --> 00:23:57,019 between the... between this area 570 00:23:57,019 --> 00:23:58,812 ‐and that area. ‐TRAVIS: Yeah. 571 00:23:58,812 --> 00:24:00,773 Well, let's get the equipment out and let's do it, right? 572 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:02,942 ‐Grab the wheels. ‐You got it? ‐I got it. 573 00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:04,526 SEGALA: For a very long time, 574 00:24:04,526 --> 00:24:06,278 there's been a lot of strange things 575 00:24:06,278 --> 00:24:07,738 going on at Homestead Two. 576 00:24:07,738 --> 00:24:10,324 And what I want to do is dig around the place 577 00:24:10,324 --> 00:24:11,909 because I believe there's a possibility 578 00:24:11,909 --> 00:24:13,911 that there's something unknown 579 00:24:13,911 --> 00:24:16,413 under the ground that seems to be seeping up 580 00:24:16,413 --> 00:24:17,831 or causing different... 581 00:24:17,831 --> 00:24:20,042 causing different, uh, phenomena to happen. 582 00:24:20,042 --> 00:24:22,378 ‐So, let's turn it on. ‐SEGALA: But there's been 583 00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:25,047 a lot of pushback on digging on the property. 584 00:24:25,047 --> 00:24:27,591 So, of course, with GPR, that gives us 585 00:24:27,591 --> 00:24:30,511 an idea of what might be under there 586 00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:32,054 without really disturbing the ground 587 00:24:32,054 --> 00:24:34,848 and bringing up anything that might be toxic underneath. 588 00:24:34,848 --> 00:24:36,684 PHIL: Okay, we're ready. 589 00:24:36,684 --> 00:24:37,977 BRYANT: Hey, Phil? 590 00:24:37,977 --> 00:24:39,728 Sorry to interrupt you, but, I mean, I know 591 00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:41,563 we want to get up on the mesa and do that. 592 00:24:41,563 --> 00:24:43,148 I mean, we're getting late in the day, 593 00:24:43,148 --> 00:24:45,234 and I want to make sure that we utilize all the time 594 00:24:45,234 --> 00:24:48,153 we have with you gentlemen. Can we split up teams here? 595 00:24:48,153 --> 00:24:51,031 ‐Like, Zach go with one of us and you go with one group? ‐Absolutely. 596 00:24:51,031 --> 00:24:53,033 ‐Okay. ‐Yeah, Phil, why don't you go up to the mesa? 597 00:24:53,033 --> 00:24:54,451 ‐Sounds good. ‐You guys okay with that? 598 00:24:54,451 --> 00:24:55,828 ‐Yeah, I'm good with that... ‐All right. 599 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,329 ...'cause I want to see what you guys have 600 00:24:57,329 --> 00:24:58,831 ‐already seen here, so... ‐That makes sense. 601 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,791 ‐Let's take it and... and get it going. ‐All right. 602 00:25:00,791 --> 00:25:03,460 TRAVIS: Now that the wide‐range system has been recharged, 603 00:25:03,460 --> 00:25:07,131 Jim, Zach and I are going to run GPR scans at Homestead Two. 604 00:25:07,131 --> 00:25:10,259 That's where a lot of very weird phenomena have been reported. 605 00:25:10,259 --> 00:25:12,594 And while we're doing that, 606 00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:14,555 the rest of the guys are going to run 607 00:25:14,555 --> 00:25:16,432 some scans up on top of the mesa. 608 00:25:16,432 --> 00:25:18,183 BRYANT: Erik loves this mesa. 609 00:25:18,183 --> 00:25:19,309 ERIK: I do, I guess. 610 00:25:19,309 --> 00:25:21,020 Once I get to the top. 611 00:25:24,606 --> 00:25:26,066 TRAVIS: Well, so, guys, 612 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,943 what I think is, if you can get right there, 613 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:29,653 kind of hug the tree line and go due south 614 00:25:29,653 --> 00:25:32,364 toward that dead tree... 615 00:25:32,364 --> 00:25:34,742 I think we can go through over here. 616 00:25:37,494 --> 00:25:39,121 Hug this bush right here the best you can. 617 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:42,082 The ground‐penetrating radar device we're using 618 00:25:42,082 --> 00:25:44,376 was more mobile, so we started pushing it through the woods 619 00:25:44,376 --> 00:25:45,961 and around the homestead. 620 00:25:45,961 --> 00:25:49,381 Just kind of use the house as a guide for the line. 621 00:25:49,381 --> 00:25:52,926 And that allows us to do a much deeper investigation. 622 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:55,596 That's probably far enough. 623 00:25:55,596 --> 00:25:57,598 ‐Yeah. ‐Did you see anything on that run? 624 00:25:57,598 --> 00:25:59,224 ZACH: Uh, let me check. 625 00:25:59,224 --> 00:26:01,060 Oh, holy... Look at this. 626 00:26:01,060 --> 00:26:02,686 ZACH: Oh, wow. 627 00:26:02,686 --> 00:26:03,937 SEGURA: There's this big... 628 00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:07,524 Oh, wow. 629 00:26:07,524 --> 00:26:09,860 That's crazy. 630 00:26:13,197 --> 00:26:14,990 What this looks like is anything on that run? e 631 00:26:14,990 --> 00:26:16,700 ZACH: Uh, let me check. 632 00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,869 ‐Oh, holy... Look at this. See? ‐Oh, wow. 633 00:26:18,869 --> 00:26:20,829 TRAVIS: While conducting a ground‐penetrating 634 00:26:20,829 --> 00:26:22,831 radar test here at Homestead Two, 635 00:26:22,831 --> 00:26:26,168 Jim, Zach and I have just found more evidence of some kind 636 00:26:26,168 --> 00:26:29,838 of large object or structure buried several feet underground. 637 00:26:29,838 --> 00:26:32,424 SEGALA: So, there's this big anomaly here. 638 00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:34,009 ‐Oh, wow. ‐That's maybe 639 00:26:34,009 --> 00:26:35,969 ‐at five feet, four feet? ‐Yeah, it's... 640 00:26:35,969 --> 00:26:37,596 TRAVIS: So, this is the structure, right? 641 00:26:37,596 --> 00:26:38,806 But look there, right there. 642 00:26:38,806 --> 00:26:40,015 It's like a‐an entrance 643 00:26:40,015 --> 00:26:42,392 or a pipe or something going up. 644 00:26:42,392 --> 00:26:44,103 SEGALA: It's on the same line 645 00:26:44,103 --> 00:26:45,896 as the well. 646 00:26:45,896 --> 00:26:48,482 TRAVIS: And who's to say it's really a well? 647 00:26:48,482 --> 00:26:50,859 Heck, it could be a tunnel entrance, for all we know. 648 00:26:50,859 --> 00:26:52,861 I'd like to know what's in this thing. 649 00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:54,279 Don't lift it up. 650 00:26:54,279 --> 00:26:56,740 ‐Why not? ‐Because the incident 651 00:26:56,740 --> 00:26:59,827 that happened with Brandon Fugal was right here. 652 00:26:59,827 --> 00:27:02,204 There was this guy that came in with him. 653 00:27:02,204 --> 00:27:05,624 He lifted this up, and that's when he went catatonic. 654 00:27:07,209 --> 00:27:09,419 BRANDON: Several years ago, 655 00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:12,381 we were escorting some visitors on the site, 656 00:27:12,381 --> 00:27:14,633 and when we entered the old homestead area, 657 00:27:14,633 --> 00:27:16,927 we all piled out of the UTV 658 00:27:16,927 --> 00:27:20,889 to circle around the front of one of the old homesteads. 659 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:24,893 And I looked around and found 660 00:27:24,893 --> 00:27:27,062 that one of the visitors was absent. 661 00:27:27,062 --> 00:27:30,107 As I circled around the back end of the homestead, 662 00:27:30,107 --> 00:27:32,818 I saw this person 663 00:27:32,818 --> 00:27:36,572 fully upright with his eyes closed. 664 00:27:36,572 --> 00:27:39,324 ‐Hey! ‐And as I yelled his name 665 00:27:39,324 --> 00:27:41,410 to somehow get his attention 666 00:27:41,410 --> 00:27:44,121 and see what was happening, his eyes fluttered open. 667 00:27:44,121 --> 00:27:46,373 He says, "Well, that was strange." 668 00:27:46,373 --> 00:27:48,000 I said, "Well, what do you mean?" 669 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,170 He says, "I was paralyzed and then went to sleep. 670 00:27:52,170 --> 00:27:55,132 How long have I been out?" 671 00:27:55,132 --> 00:27:56,967 And I said, "Well, it's‐it's probably 672 00:27:56,967 --> 00:27:58,844 been about ten minutes." 673 00:27:58,844 --> 00:28:00,846 He was shocked. 674 00:28:09,354 --> 00:28:11,440 ‐And he did what now, Jim? ‐He lifted it up. 675 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,484 But I think, before you open that up 676 00:28:14,484 --> 00:28:18,196 or do anything like that, I would definitely... 677 00:28:18,196 --> 00:28:19,656 Or maybe not. 678 00:28:19,656 --> 00:28:21,617 TRAVIS: What the crap is that? 679 00:28:24,286 --> 00:28:26,038 It's filled with something. 680 00:28:26,038 --> 00:28:28,415 All right, well, look, if you want to look down in there. 681 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:30,125 It's just filled with crappy water. 682 00:28:30,125 --> 00:28:32,711 I mean, muddy water or whatever. Maybe it's a septic tank. 683 00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:35,297 SEGALA: Seriously polluted. 684 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:37,299 TRAVIS: Well, it looks pretty bad. 685 00:28:47,225 --> 00:28:49,227 It stinks, though. Ooh! 686 00:28:49,227 --> 00:28:51,563 So, there's something in there. 687 00:28:55,442 --> 00:28:58,987 You know, I don't know if I want to say it or not, 688 00:28:58,987 --> 00:29:00,864 but I‐I feel like a, I don't know, 689 00:29:00,864 --> 00:29:03,158 I've got a little bit of a headache or something happening. 690 00:29:03,158 --> 00:29:05,744 So, why‐why don't we get out of here? 691 00:29:05,744 --> 00:29:07,079 Maybe the smell, maybe some mildew 692 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:08,372 or mold or something here. 693 00:29:08,372 --> 00:29:10,248 So, let's, uh, I say let's get back out 694 00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,917 to the road where there's more air flow. 695 00:29:14,586 --> 00:29:18,632 I started getting this headache and this nausea feeling. 696 00:29:18,632 --> 00:29:21,093 I wasn't sure what it was, but I realized, you know, 697 00:29:21,093 --> 00:29:22,886 I've got this dosimeter in my pocket. 698 00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,472 All right, well, maybe we should 699 00:29:25,472 --> 00:29:27,641 check our dosimeters or whatever. 700 00:29:27,641 --> 00:29:28,976 Yeah. 701 00:29:30,686 --> 00:29:32,521 (beeping) 702 00:29:32,521 --> 00:29:34,564 TRAVIS: Holy... Mine's beeping. 703 00:29:34,564 --> 00:29:35,899 Your max dose rate's about 120? 704 00:29:35,899 --> 00:29:37,275 Yeah, its 120‐something. 705 00:29:37,275 --> 00:29:39,444 That's pretty high. That's pretty high. 706 00:29:39,444 --> 00:29:42,030 TRAVIS: This is really scary. 707 00:29:42,030 --> 00:29:43,907 My dosimeter device, which measures exposure 708 00:29:43,907 --> 00:29:47,452 to ionizing radiation, is showing that I just got hit 709 00:29:47,452 --> 00:29:49,454 with 120 millirads per second. 710 00:29:49,454 --> 00:29:51,081 That's like getting 20,000 711 00:29:51,081 --> 00:29:53,458 full‐body X‐ray scans at an airport, 712 00:29:53,458 --> 00:29:55,085 which is five times more 713 00:29:55,085 --> 00:29:57,212 than the legal limit allows in a year. 714 00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,423 So, I just accumulated a semi‐dangerous dose. 715 00:29:59,423 --> 00:30:02,092 So, we're reading the exact same amount of rate, 716 00:30:02,092 --> 00:30:05,012 but this thing accumulated more. 717 00:30:05,012 --> 00:30:07,222 Well, and I was the one that stood over 718 00:30:07,222 --> 00:30:09,766 ‐that hole when we opened it up. ‐Yep. 719 00:30:09,766 --> 00:30:12,769 TRAVIS: We were just exposed to ionizing radiation. 720 00:30:12,769 --> 00:30:14,479 ‐Wow! ‐Now, I got to tell you that 721 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:16,398 ‐it's not a lethal dose. ‐It's not a lethal dose. 722 00:30:16,398 --> 00:30:18,233 But it's an accumulated dose that you're not gonna see 723 00:30:18,233 --> 00:30:19,985 out in the middle of nowhere, guaranteed. 724 00:30:19,985 --> 00:30:21,737 Yep. And, well, and it's enough that they're saying, 725 00:30:21,737 --> 00:30:23,405 "Hey, it's dangerous. Get out of that place 726 00:30:23,405 --> 00:30:24,990 ‐and don't say in that place" ‐Yeah. 727 00:30:24,990 --> 00:30:29,327 So we need to stop the GPR. Let's load the stuff up. 728 00:30:29,327 --> 00:30:30,579 ‐All right. ‐Cool. 729 00:30:33,165 --> 00:30:35,959 TRAVIS: What happened at Homestead Two really shook me up. 730 00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:38,962 And then, the next day, I noticed weird red marks 731 00:30:38,962 --> 00:30:40,589 on my hand and my head. 732 00:30:40,589 --> 00:30:43,175 I went to my doctor to get checked out, 733 00:30:43,175 --> 00:30:46,344 and he confirmed they were radiation burns. 734 00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:49,181 I'm okay now, but I'm really anxious to get 735 00:30:49,181 --> 00:30:52,059 to the final results of our GPR scans to find out 736 00:30:52,059 --> 00:30:55,103 if it's something in the ground that caused this. 737 00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:05,697 PHIL: Okay, we're here to, uh, discuss the processing 738 00:31:05,697 --> 00:31:08,700 of the GPR data that we collected out in the field. 739 00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,869 Uh, I took a look at all the data, 740 00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:14,289 and I'm really gonna concentrate in and around Homestead Two. 741 00:31:14,289 --> 00:31:16,583 So, that's what we're gonna be looking at on the screen today. 742 00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:19,836 Okay. Well, let's see it. 743 00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:22,547 All right, let's take a look at the data here. 744 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,883 See, here's where we started again from west going east. 745 00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:26,927 ‐TRAVIS: Right. ‐It's just noisy data. 746 00:31:26,927 --> 00:31:30,680 And now were seeing these features in more detail. 747 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,100 ‐TRAVIS: Oh, wow! ‐ERIK: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 748 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,811 Basically, looks like para... upside down parabolas. 749 00:31:35,811 --> 00:31:37,395 Right, they're‐they're hyperbolas. 750 00:31:37,395 --> 00:31:41,858 Now, what creates the hyperbolas are objects. 751 00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:44,319 A lot of things can cause those. 752 00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,906 Uh, boulders can cause those types of features. 753 00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,534 Tunneling can cause that type of feature. 754 00:31:50,534 --> 00:31:52,619 TRAVIS: Gosh, it goes all the way as far down 755 00:31:52,619 --> 00:31:53,870 ‐as 25, 30 feet. ‐Right. 756 00:31:53,870 --> 00:31:55,580 Well, it's clearly an anomaly. 757 00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,249 Yes. 758 00:31:57,249 --> 00:31:59,084 I'll tell you what it looks like to me. 759 00:32:00,627 --> 00:32:02,170 Look at this. 760 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:03,547 Here's the top point. 761 00:32:03,547 --> 00:32:04,714 Right there. Right? 762 00:32:04,714 --> 00:32:05,674 Here's another point. 763 00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:07,425 There's one here. 764 00:32:07,425 --> 00:32:10,178 And then you could say maybe it kind of starts over here. 765 00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,180 And so there's your connecting the dots. 766 00:32:12,180 --> 00:32:14,057 Connect all these peaks, 767 00:32:14,057 --> 00:32:16,309 and it looks to me like you got a football shape. 768 00:32:16,309 --> 00:32:17,853 Well, give me a pen, then. 769 00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:19,437 All right. Actually, tear me off 770 00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,189 about three more pieces of paper. 771 00:32:21,189 --> 00:32:24,276 So, there's the spot for the peak, 772 00:32:24,276 --> 00:32:27,696 probably here, and down here on the bottom. 773 00:32:27,696 --> 00:32:30,448 It's, like, here, here, here. 774 00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:32,409 There's another one kind of down here, lower. 775 00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:34,411 So now let's lay it on the table, 776 00:32:34,411 --> 00:32:36,538 and we'll draw... we're gonna connect the dots. 777 00:32:38,456 --> 00:32:41,418 All right. So, guys, if we look, 778 00:32:41,418 --> 00:32:44,045 there's something that has... 779 00:32:44,045 --> 00:32:46,965 surface points. 780 00:32:46,965 --> 00:32:49,551 Something... 781 00:32:49,551 --> 00:32:51,303 along those lines. 782 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:53,763 BRYANT: Wow. 783 00:32:53,763 --> 00:32:55,140 TRAVIS: I marked the high 784 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,184 and the low points of the parabolas 785 00:32:57,184 --> 00:32:59,227 that we saw on the screen. 786 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:01,438 And once I connected all the dots, 787 00:33:01,438 --> 00:33:04,107 the size and shape of the object we found underground 788 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,818 became clear‐‐ it looked like a giant football 789 00:33:06,818 --> 00:33:08,570 or a saucer. 790 00:33:08,570 --> 00:33:11,448 ‐I like the shape of it. ‐BRYANT: And... 791 00:33:11,448 --> 00:33:13,450 it's almost at the start of Homestead Two 792 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:15,202 to the end of Homestead Two. 793 00:33:15,202 --> 00:33:17,996 This thing is... 794 00:33:17,996 --> 00:33:19,748 a thousand feet long. 795 00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:26,004 Wow. I wasn't expecting to see that today. 796 00:33:32,552 --> 00:33:35,805 TRAVIS: What this looks like is a two‐story facility. 797 00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:38,058 This thing is... 798 00:33:38,058 --> 00:33:39,476 a thousand feet long. 799 00:33:39,476 --> 00:33:40,810 That's huge. 800 00:33:40,810 --> 00:33:42,270 THOMAS: That's significant. 801 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,064 TRAVIS: We have a thousand‐foot‐long, 802 00:33:44,064 --> 00:33:45,899 oval‐shaped object 803 00:33:45,899 --> 00:33:48,401 that appears to be buried underground at Homestead Two. 804 00:33:48,401 --> 00:33:50,654 Now, this is the same place 805 00:33:50,654 --> 00:33:52,364 where a lot of bizarre happenings 806 00:33:52,364 --> 00:33:55,325 and even UFO sightings have been reported over the years. 807 00:33:55,325 --> 00:33:57,661 So the question obviously is: 808 00:33:57,661 --> 00:33:59,329 Are they related? 809 00:33:59,329 --> 00:34:00,872 Right here... 810 00:34:00,872 --> 00:34:03,625 that's "X" marks the spot. 811 00:34:03,625 --> 00:34:05,710 That's‐that's, like, 15 feet below the surface or something. 812 00:34:05,710 --> 00:34:08,380 And we drill into that, 813 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:12,384 and we'll know, is it rock, is it metal, is it... whatever. 814 00:34:12,384 --> 00:34:15,387 And so we got to... we got to dig there. 815 00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:17,347 Or drill, at least, take a core sample. 816 00:34:17,347 --> 00:34:19,849 Well, you're gonna have to get Brandon to sign off on that. 817 00:34:19,849 --> 00:34:22,811 ‐Well, I‐I understand that. ‐I‐I always get painted as... 818 00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:25,105 the guy that's the anti‐digging guy, 819 00:34:25,105 --> 00:34:27,399 and look, I'm interested to know what's there, too, 820 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:28,984 but at the end of the day, 821 00:34:28,984 --> 00:34:31,194 that was one of Brandon's big mandates to me. 822 00:34:33,196 --> 00:34:35,740 BRYANT: Looking at that interesting shape we found, 823 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:37,701 the knee‐jerk reaction is we need to dig 824 00:34:37,701 --> 00:34:39,202 and find out what that thing is. 825 00:34:39,202 --> 00:34:41,121 It could be amazing or whatever. 826 00:34:41,121 --> 00:34:43,456 My first reaction is, "Wait a minute." 827 00:34:43,456 --> 00:34:47,585 We have radiation in the area, and we don't know what this is, 828 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:50,422 and you pile that on top of the whole "don't dig" lore 829 00:34:50,422 --> 00:34:51,798 about this place. 830 00:34:51,798 --> 00:34:53,967 I mean, Thomas had a major injury 831 00:34:53,967 --> 00:34:56,303 that almost took his life. 832 00:34:56,303 --> 00:34:58,763 Travis was exposed to radiation. 833 00:34:58,763 --> 00:35:01,266 The last thing I'm gonna do is just say, "Hey, yeah, 834 00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:03,351 "let's head out there and start digging up the road 835 00:35:03,351 --> 00:35:04,811 and see what's down there." 836 00:35:04,811 --> 00:35:07,856 I'm extremely sensitive to what's going on right now, 837 00:35:07,856 --> 00:35:10,317 between what happened to you the other night 838 00:35:10,317 --> 00:35:11,860 when we were camping again, 839 00:35:11,860 --> 00:35:13,820 what Travis experienced. 840 00:35:13,820 --> 00:35:17,490 Certainly, I don't see the data the same way you do. 841 00:35:17,490 --> 00:35:19,618 I'd like to see what your opinion is. 842 00:35:19,618 --> 00:35:21,453 ‐I think there's... ‐You're the professional in this. 843 00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:23,913 ‐Right. I think, from what... ‐I don't have an opinion, Jim? 844 00:35:23,913 --> 00:35:27,250 ‐Is that what this is? ‐PHIL: I think, 845 00:35:27,250 --> 00:35:30,086 from what I see here, I would absolutely see this 846 00:35:30,086 --> 00:35:32,839 as being an anomalous area, is what I would say. 847 00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,716 Just being... When you say "anomalous," different than 848 00:35:34,716 --> 00:35:36,718 ‐the rest of the area. ‐Different than the rest 849 00:35:36,718 --> 00:35:38,678 of the area, that we didn't see, or... 850 00:35:38,678 --> 00:35:41,222 nine‐tenths of the road that we went down. 851 00:35:41,222 --> 00:35:43,767 Well, I think we take this to Brandon 852 00:35:43,767 --> 00:35:46,770 and tell him the whole story, Dragon, and say... 853 00:35:46,770 --> 00:35:48,688 You guys better take it, 'cause apparently, 854 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:51,232 because I'm not a PhD, I don't have a (bleep) opinion 855 00:35:51,232 --> 00:35:52,442 at the table. 856 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:57,906 Look, I care about you guys. 857 00:35:57,906 --> 00:36:00,075 You know, I care about you. 858 00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:02,243 If... if I didn't like you, I would just say, 859 00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:04,245 "Fine, you know what, I'll be at the front gate. 860 00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:07,082 You guys go dig. Just keep me the hell away from this..." 861 00:36:07,082 --> 00:36:10,251 I'm sorry that I kind of blew up there a little bit, 862 00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:12,295 but it's just because I'm sensitive, 863 00:36:12,295 --> 00:36:14,214 especially now... 864 00:36:14,214 --> 00:36:17,008 that all this stuff has started happening. 865 00:36:17,008 --> 00:36:20,053 And I'm sorry, going back to your analogy, 866 00:36:20,053 --> 00:36:21,805 I don't want to poke a hornets' nest 867 00:36:21,805 --> 00:36:23,640 that has radioactive hornets come flying out. 868 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,351 ‐I already been stung once by it, right? ‐Yeah, I know. 869 00:36:26,351 --> 00:36:29,688 To that point, if we're going down two feet and we're testing, 870 00:36:29,688 --> 00:36:32,482 and two feet and we're testing, if that is the case, 871 00:36:32,482 --> 00:36:35,527 ‐those levels are gonna be going up, and we can stop. ‐Absolutely. 872 00:36:35,527 --> 00:36:38,154 ‐We'll see it every time. ‐And if Brandon 873 00:36:38,154 --> 00:36:41,783 looks at the data and says, "Okay, I will sign off on this," 874 00:36:41,783 --> 00:36:43,284 you're good with it, then, Bryant? 875 00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:44,953 ‐Is that what you're saying? ‐He's‐he's my boss. 876 00:36:44,953 --> 00:36:46,621 But I'm‐I'm just trying to get a read 877 00:36:46,621 --> 00:36:48,206 for where you are personally. 878 00:36:48,206 --> 00:36:51,167 If he signs off on it, are you comfortable with it? 879 00:36:51,167 --> 00:36:52,794 SEGALA: 'Cause you're ultimately responsible... 880 00:36:52,794 --> 00:36:54,796 Look, I... like I said, I just answer to him. 881 00:36:54,796 --> 00:36:57,382 ‐No, but you're... ‐So, if that's what he wants to do, then... 882 00:36:57,382 --> 00:37:00,093 BRYANT: You know, I had my points, those guys had their points. 883 00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:01,845 You know, we weren't totally in agreement, 884 00:37:01,845 --> 00:37:03,763 so it was time to get on the phone 885 00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:05,306 and get Brandon up to speed 886 00:37:05,306 --> 00:37:07,517 with what we found and get his take on things. 887 00:37:07,517 --> 00:37:10,395 Zach, Phil, thank you so much for coming out. 888 00:37:10,395 --> 00:37:12,480 ‐These are fantastic data. ‐Thank y'all. 889 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,566 ‐Thanks, guys. ‐Thank you. ‐Appreciate it. 890 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:16,484 TRAVIS: All right, let's call Brandon 891 00:37:16,484 --> 00:37:19,070 and let Brandon make the decision. 892 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:26,995 (phone rings) 893 00:37:26,995 --> 00:37:29,372 ‐Hey. ‐BRYANT: Hey, Brandon. 894 00:37:29,372 --> 00:37:31,541 It's, uh, Bryant and Travis here. 895 00:37:31,541 --> 00:37:33,251 Hey, guys. 896 00:37:33,251 --> 00:37:35,754 What‐what's happening out at Skinwalker Ranch? 897 00:37:35,754 --> 00:37:38,548 We've got interesting things, and then we've got things 898 00:37:38,548 --> 00:37:41,301 that... lend me to pause and... 899 00:37:41,301 --> 00:37:43,470 have me concerned. 900 00:37:43,470 --> 00:37:46,264 And I'll let Travis explain, you know, what we found 901 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,057 with‐with the folks doing 902 00:37:48,057 --> 00:37:51,060 the GPR, or ground‐penetrating radar work. 903 00:37:52,562 --> 00:37:55,565 Right in front of Homestead Two... 904 00:37:55,565 --> 00:37:59,360 there is an anomaly underground that ranges from about... 905 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,031 12 or 13 feet all the way down to 35 feet, 906 00:38:03,031 --> 00:38:05,116 and it's kind of, 907 00:38:05,116 --> 00:38:07,827 uh... I would say maybe football‐shaped, 908 00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:10,330 about a thousand‐foot long. 909 00:38:12,499 --> 00:38:14,959 If I were gonna say that there's any place on the ranch 910 00:38:14,959 --> 00:38:16,753 where "X" marks the spot, it's right there 911 00:38:16,753 --> 00:38:19,547 in the middle of the road right in front of Homestead Two. 912 00:38:22,634 --> 00:38:24,969 That‐that leads into the not so good news. 913 00:38:24,969 --> 00:38:27,972 Travis and Dr. Segala 914 00:38:27,972 --> 00:38:31,309 were exposed to a dose 915 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,395 of toxic radiation. 916 00:38:34,395 --> 00:38:35,939 Yeah. 917 00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,149 Well, I mean, I'm‐I'm okay, uh, 918 00:38:38,149 --> 00:38:40,610 and I've had my doctors talk to me about it and everything. 919 00:38:40,610 --> 00:38:42,779 There's not‐nothing to worry about. 920 00:38:43,905 --> 00:38:45,240 (Travis chuckles) 921 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,075 Yeah. It's crazy. 922 00:39:01,673 --> 00:39:04,008 Look, this is your property, 923 00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:06,177 and, you know, I'm gonna defer to you, 924 00:39:06,177 --> 00:39:07,846 because you're the boss. 925 00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:11,224 So, what‐what... How do you feel about it? 926 00:39:23,111 --> 00:39:27,031 Yeah, I think we don't have to dig in a major excavation way. 927 00:39:27,031 --> 00:39:29,868 What we do is take, like, auger core samples. 928 00:39:29,868 --> 00:39:32,871 And so, you know, if something is a few inches in diameter, 929 00:39:32,871 --> 00:39:35,874 we drill down until we get to that first layer 930 00:39:35,874 --> 00:39:39,377 of what the boundary of this thing is... 931 00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,004 and we'll do, uh, safety measurements 932 00:39:41,004 --> 00:39:43,548 every couple of feet to make sure it's not... 933 00:39:43,548 --> 00:39:47,677 pulling back a toxic chemical or a... or something radioactive. 934 00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:16,664 I agree with that. 935 00:40:25,048 --> 00:40:27,383 Or it could halt it in its tracks, Brandon. 936 00:40:37,435 --> 00:40:38,561 All right. Thanks again for the time. 937 00:40:38,561 --> 00:40:39,479 ‐We'll talk to you soon. ‐All right. 938 00:40:39,479 --> 00:40:41,439 See you later, Brandon. 939 00:40:43,816 --> 00:40:46,611 BRANDON: We're always concerned about disturbing the earth, 940 00:40:46,611 --> 00:40:48,112 because we've seen 941 00:40:48,112 --> 00:40:50,949 in past history that bad things happen. 942 00:40:52,909 --> 00:40:54,994 ERIK: I do feel the weight of responsibility. 943 00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:59,290 I wonder whether I have covered all the appropriate bases 944 00:40:59,290 --> 00:41:02,126 prior to doing this unprecedented exploration 945 00:41:02,126 --> 00:41:03,544 on the property. 946 00:41:03,544 --> 00:41:05,797 ♪ ♪ 947 00:41:05,797 --> 00:41:07,590 BRYANT: I'm as curious as anybody 948 00:41:07,590 --> 00:41:09,634 to find out what the heck that big thing 949 00:41:09,634 --> 00:41:11,594 in the ground by Homestead Two is, 950 00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,389 but it really makes me take a step back, 951 00:41:14,389 --> 00:41:16,641 because I don't want anybody to get hurt, 952 00:41:16,641 --> 00:41:18,518 especially the people I care about. 953 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,813 TRAVIS: Ground‐penetrating radar said 954 00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:23,940 there's something here under the road that's anomalous, 955 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:26,150 and the only way to get down there and look at it 956 00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:27,485 is to dig a hole. 957 00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:30,238 So that's exactly what we're gonna do. 958 00:41:35,493 --> 00:41:37,662 ‐SEGALA: Let's get to it. ‐TRAVIS: GPR has given us 959 00:41:37,662 --> 00:41:39,163 an "'X' marks the spot." 960 00:41:39,163 --> 00:41:40,289 SEGALA: They're hitting something hard now. 961 00:41:40,289 --> 00:41:41,958 Man, they're on something. 962 00:41:41,958 --> 00:41:44,168 There is an unnatural structure beneath this property. 963 00:41:44,168 --> 00:41:46,004 ‐That whole thing's shaking. ‐BRYANT: Look at that. 964 00:41:46,004 --> 00:41:47,839 ‐What is that? ‐SEGALA: Why is that rocking like that? 965 00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:49,173 ‐TRAVIS: Oh! ‐TOM: There we go. 966 00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:50,675 THOMAS: I'm hoping that bringing in 967 00:41:50,675 --> 00:41:52,802 an exotic animal on the ranch will stimulate 968 00:41:52,802 --> 00:41:54,971 whatever is mutilating these cattle. 969 00:41:54,971 --> 00:41:57,348 ‐(animal shrieking) ‐TOM: The alpacas have been torn apart. 970 00:41:57,348 --> 00:42:00,476 ‐What is that? ‐If that's a dog, it's a big dog. 971 00:42:00,476 --> 00:42:02,437 (animals continue shrieking) 972 00:42:04,147 --> 00:42:05,732 CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY A+E NETWORKS 79126

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