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- Where are we, sir?
- At another place in time, I think.
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Open hailing frequencies, Lieutenant.
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- Message coming in, sir.
- Put it on the view screen.
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I've always felt it was pad of Star Trek.
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And a very important part
that has been long overlooked.
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Oh, I thought... Yeah,
I thought it would make a terrific show
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for youngsters and for oldsters.
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Wouldn't make any difference because
you could do the same kind of stories.
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It was really different
and it was a pleasure to work on,
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but frightening at the same time
because you didn't wanna
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do a lesser job
than the public might expect.
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Working.
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One of the best things
about The Animated Series
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is it's like buried treasure.
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It's like, you know, every fan
of the original series
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knows that there are those 77 episodes
or however you want to count them out.
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And it's as if somebody said,
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"Hey, we just found this other episode
that no one's ever seen before."
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I think that Star Trek:
The Animated Series
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was really important
because it kept Star Trek alive.
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It gave it
to a whole new generation of viewers.
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It was the last iteration.
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The last opportunity to play out that,
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what can we do with Kirk, Spock
and McCoy and the others
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in an episodic sense
before we went on to do the movies,
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where the movies all eventually
ended up in this kind of long story arc.
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And at the time, you know,
it was real Star Trek.
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Cartoon, no cartoon.
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With Shatner and Nimoy in it,
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as far as I was concerned,
it was real Star Trek.
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None of us ever said, "Cartoon." Never.
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So we were going to do Star Trek
in animation.
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Star Trek was produced
by the company that
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I was founder of, one of the founders of.
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We did The Archies,
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we did the first Superman show
for animation, for television, we did.
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We did the Batman and we did...
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If it flew and had a cape
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and it was painted red, white or blue,
we probably did it.
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I find this scientifically fascinating.
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The way we became involved with
Star Trek: The Series,
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was actually it came right from NBC.
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We got a can one day
from Joe Taritero
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who was Vice President
of children's program there
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and they'd been negotiating
with Gene Roddenberry.
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And they made the choice
that they wanted Filmation
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to produce this show,
which was quite an honor,
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and scared the devil out of me
a little bit.
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I cannot tell you how impressed I am
by your splendid spirit of cooperation.
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And then I got in touch
with Roddenberry
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who was easy to talk to,
and actually he'd liked the idea,
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but he said he can't do it.
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He said, you know,
"Paramount owns it, I own it.
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"I can't do anything without them.
They can't do anything without me."
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I said, "Why don't you two guys talk?
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"I mean, you know,
sit down in a room, make a deal.
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"Then we could do this thing."
He said, "You know, that's a good idea."
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- That seems logical.
- Thank you.
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Filmation, it was just a hoot.
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Lou Scheimer was...
I don't know how to describe Lou.
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He was so enthused about focusing on,
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"Let's just do fun, exciting television
for Saturday morning,"
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but he was also willing to do shows.
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He understood better than some places
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that a lot of your Saturday morning
audience is not kids,
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it's grownups or teenagers or you know.
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People are laying around Saturday,
"What's on TV?"
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Dorothy Fontana, D.C. Fontana,
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was introduced to us by Roddenberry
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and he wanted her to do the story idea
because he felt very, very comfortable.
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She was an assistant of his
in the live-action shows.
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She was terrific.
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And we all just wanted to do
Star Trek, still.
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We had it in our bones and...
No pun, but...
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I mean, in 1969 when it went off the air,
we felt unfinished.
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We hadn't had a chance to complete
the next voyages we had in mind.
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And this was one way to do it,
even though we didn't get the fifth year.
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I mean, that's...
And then we ended up doing a show
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that basically was the same
as the nighttime show,
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same writers in many cases,
same actors obviously,
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and the same audience, too.
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- Bones, any opinion?
- There's some resemblance.
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I am inclined to agree
with the Doctor, Captain.
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The problem was the audience
was all in their 20s and 30s
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and our normal audience
was like eight to ten.
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They're all teenagers and children.
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The way I got involved
in Star Trek: The Animated Series
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was that I had previously worked
with Dorothy Fontana
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on a show called The Sixth Sense
and one day...
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In the middle of a writers' strike, I was
a young starving writer in my early 20s,
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she called and said, "Do you wanna
write an episode of Star Trek?"
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Well, that was a lucky
or unlucky stroke of fortune.
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The Writers Guild
happened to be on strike in 1973.
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During those early months, I think
we went for about a three-month strike.
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And that meant
none of the writers could write,
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you know, live-action dramas or
comedies, whatever they were writing,
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but it did mean that we could hire them
to write at least one script
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for animation without their becoming
a member of that union.
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And so we turned to all our... Not all,
but many of our Star Trek regulars
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and said, "Do you wanna do this?"
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Our first script was by Sam Peeples.
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He had done the very first episode
for the live show.
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It's a starship
like nothing I've ever seen.
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There were these two or three ideas
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I'd had for the original series
that we had never done.
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And so now I could do them
in The Animated Series.
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And one of course was the
"More Tribbles, More Troubles,"
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and the other was "Bem."
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We got David Gerrold to do two.
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We got Margaret Armen to do two,
and several other people who
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had wanted to write Star Trek
but hadn't gotten a chance
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on the original series,
came in and did something.
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Joyce Perry was one.
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Larry Brody, who was just starting out,
was another.
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Meeting Gene Roddenberry
was an experience all in itself
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because I'd been in the business
just long enough
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to have encountered a lot of people
who really crapped on writers.
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And I'm in the office of a guy
who to me is a legend,
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who is the most gracious, warm,
friendly, sweet guy I've ever met,
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who respects everything
that every writer does,
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listens closely to every word I say.
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And I did mostly
just sat behind his shoulder
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and looked at what he was doing
and listened to what he was saying
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and he'd make
changes, changes, changes,
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and then he'd make
some more changes.
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I don't like it at all, sir.
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Nor do I, Mr. Scott,
but we've got to do it.
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Roddenberry was... He was great.
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It was the only time that I can remember
that we sold a show to a network
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and the network didn't have any right
to make any changes in the scripts.
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And that was heaven.
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Everything went past Gene,
he saw it all,
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but he wasn't there every day.
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When he had comments,
he put them in.
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Otherwise, he just said,
"It's fine, go for it."
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And we all did the show.
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I do remember one day,
it was getting pretty frightening.
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Lou and I talked and he says,
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"Hey, if we don't get started pretty soon,
you know, we're dead in the water."
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And I said, "Well, I'll just see
if I can tell that to Gene," you know.
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So it happened, I think, the next day
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and when we were going over things
and I said, "Gene, I have to talk to you."
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I says, "If we don't start this production
this week, in the next couple of days,
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"we've only got six-week-window here,
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"we're not gonna make
the first deadline."
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He says, "That's it."
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He stood up and he says,
"I'm not gonna bother you anymore."
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He was happy and
he walked out the door and he left me.
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Thrilling to work
with somebody like that.
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Wait a minute.
There is a method to this madness.
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Please elaborate, Captain.
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So the first approach was,
"How are we going to tell these stories?
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"What form are we going to use?"
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And the second one was,
"Who are we going to use?"
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And they opted to hire
almost everybody
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except for poor Walter Koenig,
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but who did get a chance
to write a script,
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which was the beginning
of his writing career.
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So, you know, it wasn't all that bad.
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We could barely use all the characters
they had to use in the shows.
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I mean, just the set characters.
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Anyway, you couldn't have fit into the
damn little room we were recording in.
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Nice to be back aboard, sir,
and fitting the room again.
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The glorious thing was getting them all
together for the first recording session.
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I know that's of interest to the fans.
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And I think it's the first time
they'd all been together,
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at one time, in the same room,
and it was a joyous occasion.
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You don't know how good it is
to have you back on the Bridge,
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alive and well.
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We're as happy about it as you are, Jim.
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I'll just tell you, I get chills up my spine
any time Leonard would do Spock
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because he'd just get all serious
and do that Spock voice,
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you know, and, "Fascinating, Captain."
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Fascinating.
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And he'd do that and then, of course,
Shatner is just, he's very playful.
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You will remind me
to report my conduct to the Federation,
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-won't you, Mr. Spock?
- Of course, Captain.
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Shatner had one thing
that was immensely important to him
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and that was to be true
to the original show.
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To make sure that we didn't do anything
in our show that would...
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Not really work with the bible.
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It is our responsibility
to take care of our own,
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just as it is your responsibility
to take care of yours.
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He's one of the hardest working actors
I've ever seen
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in front of a microphone
or in front of a camera.
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But, you know, he'd say,
"All right, we need a take,"
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and he would just, "barn,"
just like that, first time, right up.
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You know, "That was perfect, Bill,
one more." And he'd do it again.
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Well done, Jim.
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There were some actors
who did multiple roles.
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Majel Barrett did.
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She did a lot of the female voices.
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Well, I can't find anything wrong
with these instruments, Doctor.
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I am Theela, the Head Female.
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Hostile behavior doesn't fit its program.
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Lieutenant M'Ress, I want a printout
of the guidance computer's last orders.
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Jimmy Doohan did
a lot of voices that were...
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Other than his own, obviously,
as Scotty.
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He was very good on
other characters' voices
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that we would have had to bring in
different voice actors.
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And Jimmy could do a wide range
of not only types of voices
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but types of accents.
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No matter where I've traveled
in the galaxy, Jim,
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this bridge is more like home
than anywhere else.
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We will live no longer like worms
crawling in the did.
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Good. All hands to battle stations.
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And, of course, my favorite is
all the stuff that Nichelle got to do.
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I'm just in love with Nichelle.
That's just me.
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And in the episode "Bem,"
she shows her range.
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She gets to show Uhura being
a very strong voice on the Bridge,
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but then she does the voice
of the alien intelligence
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and there
she's a whole different character.
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And the range there is spectacular.
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What gives you the right
to intrude here?
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Then in another episode
Uhura says that the men are all
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captured or something
and they're not available.
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- What are you doing?
- Taking command of this ship.
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"At last!"
She just had so much fun with that
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and that goes back to who Nichelle is.
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So watching her stretch herself and
grow as a performer, that was great.
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Ship's Log, supplemental.
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I am assuming command
of the Enterprise.
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Once the actors
have recorded all the voices
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then it can go to animation,
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to actual ink and pen
to be sketched out.
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Storyboards were being done
at the time, off the scripts.
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They were doing
storyboards at the same time.
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So every script was storyboarded out.
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Scene for scene, line for line.
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Tactically well-planned.
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Putting an episode together
from start to finish
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for our schedule
was about three months.
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I know the animation
was six weeks allowed for that.
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Animation takes a long time.
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And there's a whole procedure:
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You have to write it,
then you have to do storyboards,
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then you have to do layouts,
then you have to do backgrounds,
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then you have to animate it.
And we would start
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about six months prior
to the first show going on the air
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and just deliver them in time.
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I mean, we were delivering wet...
Well, in those days it was film.
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I mean, when I say "wet film,"
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we'd ship out on Friday
for Saturday morning.
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I mean, it was really gruesome.
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Have you covered every possibility?
Every factor?
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The facts remain unchangeable.
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You had to keep that Steamroller going
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in order to make the final deadline.
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That's what! was saying earlier
about working with Gene,
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you know,
there was a certain time frame.
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If we didn't start,
we were gonna be late.
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- Status, Mr. Spock?
- All systems affirmative, Captain.
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The Enterprise is on course
and on schedule.
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Hal Sutherland,
the dear man who was our director,
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was colorblind. We didn't know that.
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And as a result, on Larry Niven's
"The Slaver Weapon,"
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his Kzinti, these are his creation.
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They are eight-foot orange cats,
very fierce, very predatory,
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and they were flying around
in a pink ship.
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It will not be pleasant for her.
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Which startled me
when I saw it broadcast
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and I immediately called Larry
and apologized.
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But I didn't know, until that moment,
that Hal was colorblind
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and probably only saw that color
as a shade of gray.
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- Captain, what happened?
- I would rather not discuss it.
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The people who work on these things
are artists.
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I mean, I had the joy of working
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with up to 2,000 artists over the time
that we were in business.
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At one time we had 875 artists
working for us.
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And you could see your work onscreen.
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Fantastic architecture.
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Only an incredibly advanced race
could have built it.
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The show had a visual canvas
that was...
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It sod of incorporated the original show
but it also expanded it
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into this realm
that couldn't be done at the time.
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We could do new
and different creatures that actually
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still aren't being done
as well as they were done in animation
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because you could do anything.
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And the environments, underwater.
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All sorts of lovely things that we
wouldn't have been able to easily do
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in live-action.
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You could show the most
bizarre-looking aliens that,
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you know, could never have been
produced in the '60s or even the '70s.
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I mean, you had... There was
Lieutenant Arex, I guess,
285
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the three-!imbed navigator
who replaced Chekov,
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who was a very interesting alien,
a very cool design.
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Well, in the episode "Bem,"
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in my original conception of "Bem,"
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which was going to be
a live-action story,
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I had sketched a kind of a two-pad
creature that would be played by
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a very sturdy, shod person
who would be carrying a very shod,
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shorter person on his back and then...
And so you would have this character
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that could then split apart
into two symbiotic creatures.
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And The Animated Series,
295
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we didn't have to worry about
building a costume or finding the actors.
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The animators just had Bern split apart
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into as many different pieces
as they needed.
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I mean, the first time
we saw a Vulcan city
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was in the episode "Yesteryear."
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And then later, on Enterprise, we did...
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In season 4, we did a three-episode
arc that took place on Vulcan.
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And we wanted to see that city again.
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It was Spock's hometown
and we thought,
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"Well, it'd be cool to visit it
before Spock came along."
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So we brought that city to fife.
I think it was called ShiKahr.
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So The Animated Series
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had a look, I think, that certainly
influenced later Star Treks-.
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I wish to visit the planet Vulcan,
30 Vulcan years past,
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the month of Tasmeen.
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Location, near the city of ShiKahr.
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I had some ideas
that I'd always had for years
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about what Star Trek
as a series should have,
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so I was ready to go with them.
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I decided to lead with my favorite,
which was,
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"Why can't the Enterprise
encounter God in space?"
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Gene thought that was
the greatest thing he'd ever heard of.
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He said, "I've been trying for years
to just get that out in that way.
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"I never really thought about
just doing it. So all right, let's do that.
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"You know, go home.
We're gonna make a deal."
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Well, a week later,
Dorothy called me and said,
321
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"The good news is that
we're making a deal
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"and you're gonna write that episode
we talked about.
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"The bad news is we can't use God
but we can use the devil."
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So it became "The Magicks
of Megas-Tu,"
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which was a story
about a planet of devils.
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Lovely primitive humans.
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Can't you do anything right?
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Well, the thing that we could do is
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we could go anywhere
and do anything we wanted to do
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as long as it could be drawn.
331
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Nowadays, you can do it
with computers,
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but in those days, you did it by hand
and pencil and paint.
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And Gene could write about
or think about
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going any place he wanted
in the universe.
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In any planet, any color,
any shape, any size.
336
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What we did have
was a really good research company
337
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that pointed out
when we contradicted ourselves,
338
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when something didn't follow.
339
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"Remember you said this
over here in this episode
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"and then over in this episode
you're saying something else.
341
00:18:05,318 --> 00:18:07,093
"Well, it has to follow,
it has to make sense.
342
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"And they have to agree."
"Okay, fine." So we did that.
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We were doing Star Trek.
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We were doing the Star Trek
as described in the writer's guide
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and the writer's guide
for the animated show
346
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was the same one we had
for the live-action show, pretty much.
347
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Something awfully familiar about it.
348
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What do you make of all this, Spock?
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Well, my take on whether or not
this fits into the Star Trek legacy
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is that it fits into my version
of the Star Trek legacy.
351
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I mean, I think it should.
352
00:18:32,111 --> 00:18:32,210
All this argument about canon is stupid.
353
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All this argument about canon is stupid.
354
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It has Gene Roddenberry's' name on it.
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It has William Shatner as Kirk.
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It has Leonard Nimoy as Spock.
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It has D. Kelley as McCoy.
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It has Jimmy Doohan as Scotty.
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It has Majel Barrett as Nurse Chapel.
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It has Nichelle Nichols as Uhura.
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It has George Takei as Sulu.
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We were fortunate to be in position,
in the last season of Enterprise,
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as co-producers on the show
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to actually take some elements
from the animated show
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and put it into live-action on-air
continuity so it becomes canon.
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And one of the best examples of that
was the sehlat,
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which had been seen
in The Animated Series.
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Mentioned in The Original Series.
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It was in "Yesteryear,"
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Dorothy Fontana's episode
which showed that
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pretty poignant glimpse
of Spock's early years,
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and with his pet.
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And he has an adventure
out in the wilds of the Forge.
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And that became the episode.
375
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"The Forge" was the name
of the episode we wrote for Enterprise.
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And we too included a sehlat.
377
00:19:34,407 --> 00:19:37,217
Yeah, I mean, I think
the first time we saw a holodeck
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was on The Animated Series.
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There was an episode, I believe
it was called "The Practical Joker,"
380
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where the ship's computer
went a little bonkers.
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00:19:44,550 --> 00:19:49,226
It is lovely, but I'm more in the mood
for a nice, quiet walk in the woods.
382
00:19:49,321 --> 00:19:50,766
I did an episode called "Catwalk"
383
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and I think there were
a couple of moments
384
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where I dropped in some references
to the old show.
385
00:19:57,063 --> 00:20:00,636
One where Dr. Phlox had these...
386
00:20:00,733 --> 00:20:04,340
A lot of creatures in his sickbay
and he had some slugs.
387
00:20:04,437 --> 00:20:07,816
And we called them,
in a couple different episodes,
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we revealed
that they were Edosian slugs.
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So they were from the same planet
as Lieutenant Arex.
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00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:17,150
Although, the reference
I like the most was the kahs-wan ritual,
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which is what young Spock
was going through in "Yesteryear."
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And there was a lovely little scene
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between Captain Archer and T'Pol,
394
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:29,839
and the Captain makes a reference
about how it's a lot like going camping
395
00:20:29,929 --> 00:20:32,535
and he asked T'Pol,
"Have you ever gone camping?"
396
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She says, "Well, no, but
397
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She tells him a little bit
about the kahs-wan ritual
398
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and how she spent all these days
in the desert,
399
00:20:39,638 --> 00:20:41,208
the Vulcan idea of camping.
400
00:20:41,307 --> 00:20:44,311
Well, number one, I know the
animated show helped the franchise
401
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because it helped give birth...
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Because they suddenly realized
there was an audience out there.
403
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I love that at the time,
the LA Times reviewed it
404
00:20:52,618 --> 00:20:55,030
and though it was part of
a Saturday morning line-up
405
00:20:55,121 --> 00:20:58,659
they said it was a Mercedes
in a soapbox derby.
406
00:20:58,958 --> 00:21:01,598
NBC was elated.
407
00:21:01,694 --> 00:21:04,197
Just absolutely elated.
408
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:07,167
I remember getting
a personal letter from them saying
409
00:21:07,266 --> 00:21:12,147
how wonderful the show looked
and how happy they were at the results.
410
00:21:13,405 --> 00:21:14,907
I'd never heard anything like that
411
00:21:15,007 --> 00:21:17,817
in all the years we'd been in business,
20 odd years.
412
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It's the only Emmy
I've ever gotten for a show.
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I did 1,500 half hours or whatever it was
and it really wasn't...
414
00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,797
It should not have been given to us.
415
00:21:28,888 --> 00:21:31,459
It was an Emmy for
best children's show Saturday morning
416
00:21:31,557 --> 00:21:33,002
and it was not really a children's show.
417
00:21:33,092 --> 00:21:35,333
It was a show for the entire family
418
00:21:35,427 --> 00:21:39,136
and anybody who was really a fan
of the original live show.
419
00:21:40,533 --> 00:21:41,671
They recognized it.
420
00:21:41,767 --> 00:21:44,509
My son overheard the rehearsals
and he heard it was Captain Kangaroo.
421
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So I don't know what to say
except a very, very special thanks
422
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to my very, very, special friend,
and co-producer, Norm Prescott,
423
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and my lovely family, my wife, Jay,
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my son and my daughter,
Lane and Erika,
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00:21:57,716 --> 00:22:01,425
and to all those great, great people
who produced for us
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00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,865
in the ad of animation at Filmation
those wonderful shows.
427
00:22:04,957 --> 00:22:06,129
Thank you very, very much.
428
00:22:06,225 --> 00:22:09,832
I was pleased that it won the Emmy.
It was the only Emmy we got.
429
00:22:09,929 --> 00:22:12,375
Star Trek was nominated
a number of times,
430
00:22:12,464 --> 00:22:16,571
more in technical categories
than anything else,
431
00:22:16,702 --> 00:22:20,650
which always insulted us because we
felt we were doing really good drama.
432
00:22:20,739 --> 00:22:24,186
But I was pleased that we got an Emmy.
433
00:22:24,610 --> 00:22:26,283
I was thrilled to death.
434
00:22:26,612 --> 00:22:30,253
Our trip into the negative universe
gave it a second life.
435
00:22:30,516 --> 00:22:33,929
It gave all of us a second life.
436
00:22:34,019 --> 00:22:36,795
When they were thinking
that Star Trek was gone,
437
00:22:36,889 --> 00:22:39,199
when the series ended, the live show,
438
00:22:39,291 --> 00:22:42,738
and then all of a sudden
the animated show came back
439
00:22:42,862 --> 00:22:45,240
all our hopes became rejuvenated.
440
00:22:45,431 --> 00:22:47,274
And to me that was important
441
00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,573
because I think
it gave us a sense of closure
442
00:22:49,668 --> 00:22:53,480
that we just hadn't abruptly ended
our five-year mission.
443
00:22:53,572 --> 00:22:56,143
That we were still out there
doing our job.
444
00:22:56,242 --> 00:22:59,451
It was the further adventures.
It was the fourth season
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that we didn't get to do live-action,
but we did get to do in a different way.
446
00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:07,621
The reason why The Animated Series
still holds up after all of this time
447
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,223
is the same reason The Original Series
holds up all of this time,
448
00:23:10,322 --> 00:23:11,801
-and it's stories.
- Stories.
449
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:15,270
So I'm glad that, you know,
almost 40 years later
450
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we're still remembering it
and honoring it.
451
00:23:17,997 --> 00:23:22,468
I don't think we should forget
the storytellers who worked on it.
452
00:23:22,568 --> 00:23:25,606
These were the people
who created the series in the first place.
453
00:23:25,704 --> 00:23:28,344
Most of us were involved
whether it was the writers,
454
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,920
the actors, Gene himself.
455
00:23:31,443 --> 00:23:33,480
We were all there doing Star Trek.
456
00:23:33,579 --> 00:23:35,581
Take us out of orbit, Mr. Sulu.
Let's go home.
457
00:23:35,681 --> 00:23:37,456
Captain, I'm picking up a message.
458
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Go in peace. Yes. Go in peace.
459
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You have learned much. Be proud.
460
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:46,360
You have learned much. Be proud.
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