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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:11,947 --> 00:01:15,200 This guitar was the beginning of it all for me. 2 00:01:25,168 --> 00:01:27,504 I don't have much of a process of, like, 3 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:29,214 "I'm thinking about this, 4 00:01:29,548 --> 00:01:32,134 and now I'm gonna write a song, and it's gonna be about that." 5 00:01:32,384 --> 00:01:34,094 A lot of times, 6 00:01:34,177 --> 00:01:37,347 the creative process is trying to catch yourself off guard. 7 00:01:39,975 --> 00:01:42,269 And you sit down, and you've got a blank canvas, 8 00:01:42,352 --> 00:01:44,271 and you don't know what you‘re gonna do, 9 00:01:44,354 --> 00:01:46,607 and you just see what happens. 10 00:01:52,863 --> 00:01:54,156 How you doin', man? 11 00:02:00,037 --> 00:02:01,997 When you talk about songs that are 12 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,499 reflective of your past, 13 00:02:05,167 --> 00:02:07,294 it becomes a jigsaw puzzle, 14 00:02:07,377 --> 00:02:10,255 because... you write about what you know. 15 00:02:11,214 --> 00:02:12,799 You write about where you‘ve been. 16 00:02:14,426 --> 00:02:16,261 You write about who you know. 17 00:02:23,268 --> 00:02:26,897 When I stumbled onto this song, "Once Were Brothers"... 18 00:02:28,649 --> 00:02:30,525 it really did, for me, 19 00:02:30,609 --> 00:02:33,278 zero in on The Band. 20 00:02:34,529 --> 00:02:37,115 Once were brothers 21 00:02:39,159 --> 00:02:42,412 Brothers no more 22 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:46,124 We lost our connection 23 00:02:47,918 --> 00:02:50,128 After the war... 24 00:02:50,587 --> 00:02:53,840 I don't know of any other group of musicians 25 00:02:53,924 --> 00:02:56,093 with a story equivalent 26 00:02:56,259 --> 00:02:58,220 to the story of The Band. 27 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:01,139 And it was a beautiful thing. 28 00:03:01,890 --> 00:03:04,851 It was so beautiful, it went up in flames. 29 00:03:05,227 --> 00:03:07,729 Brothers no more 30 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:25,872 When I get off of this mountain 31 00:03:26,164 --> 00:03:28,375 You know where I want to go 32 00:03:30,127 --> 00:03:32,337 Straight down the Mississippi River 33 00:03:32,421 --> 00:03:34,965 To the Gulf of Mexico 34 00:03:36,133 --> 00:03:38,260 To Lake George, Louisiana... 35 00:03:38,343 --> 00:03:41,054 There is no band that emphasizes 36 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:43,014 coming together and becoming 37 00:03:43,098 --> 00:03:45,517 greater than the sum of their parts than The Band. 38 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:49,187 Simply their name, The Band, that was it. 39 00:03:49,521 --> 00:03:52,858 Up on Cripple Creek She sends me 40 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:55,986 If I sprang a leak She‘d mend me 41 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,281 I don‘t have to speak She defends me 42 00:03:59,614 --> 00:04:03,744 A drunkard's dream If I ever did see one 43 00:04:06,413 --> 00:04:08,832 Good luck had just stung me 44 00:04:09,124 --> 00:04:11,543 And to the racetrack I did go 45 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:16,256 I bet on one horse to win 46 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:18,884 And she bet On another to show 47 00:04:20,177 --> 00:04:22,387 I've never been in a band that long. 48 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:24,973 I ran away, usually, and would move on 49 00:04:25,056 --> 00:04:27,350 to the next thing that was attractive to me, 50 00:04:27,434 --> 00:04:30,395 or that was missing in the band I was in. So I didn't 51 00:04:30,479 --> 00:04:31,938 have a sense of brotherhood, 52 00:04:32,022 --> 00:04:35,567 so I was in great awe of their brotherhood. 53 00:04:36,193 --> 00:04:37,444 It was the soul of The Band. 54 00:04:38,069 --> 00:04:41,323 She mends me I don‘t have to speak 55 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:44,201 She defends me A drunkard's dream 56 00:04:44,284 --> 00:04:47,329 If I ever did see one 57 00:04:49,664 --> 00:04:52,292 Not only did they have the incredible writing, 58 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:54,669 you know, Robbie's writing, but they had three 59 00:04:54,753 --> 00:04:57,547 of the greatest white singers in rock history. 60 00:04:57,923 --> 00:05:01,426 To have any one of those guys would be the foundation 61 00:05:01,510 --> 00:05:04,554 for a great band. To have three of them in one group, 62 00:05:04,679 --> 00:05:07,766 that was... just loaded for bear. 63 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:11,978 That's when That little love of mine 64 00:05:12,062 --> 00:05:14,564 Dips her doughnut in my tea 65 00:05:15,941 --> 00:05:17,859 Up on Cripple Creek... 66 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:20,195 This music drew upon country music, 67 00:05:20,695 --> 00:05:22,864 English, Scotch, Irish, the choral sounds 68 00:05:22,948 --> 00:05:25,158 of the Welsh. At the same time, 69 00:05:25,242 --> 00:05:28,912 Mississippi Delta, the blues. And there was so much imagery. 70 00:05:28,995 --> 00:05:32,666 This... just didn't seem like anything else. 71 00:05:32,999 --> 00:05:36,086 No one sounded like those guys. You know, 72 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:39,130 they came in, and they played. And I just loved 73 00:05:39,214 --> 00:05:41,591 that about them, you know, they were about the music. 74 00:05:41,675 --> 00:05:44,636 She defends me A drunkard's dream 75 00:05:44,719 --> 00:05:48,139 If I ever did see one 76 00:05:59,192 --> 00:06:01,444 I think about Levon, 77 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:04,030 Richard, Rick, and Garth 78 00:06:04,114 --> 00:06:07,909 all the time. We went through things together you could 79 00:06:07,993 --> 00:06:11,288 never replace. You can never give enough credit 80 00:06:11,371 --> 00:06:15,292 to something that special. I was an only child, 81 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:19,129 so this brotherhood was so powerful. 82 00:06:19,337 --> 00:06:22,257 Oh, I could get you with my yodel, I go 83 00:06:36,521 --> 00:06:39,858 No, no, no, no, no 84 00:06:50,368 --> 00:06:51,953 I think we're warmed up. 85 00:07:10,722 --> 00:07:14,267 Since I was a kid, I see stories 86 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,437 in a different way. I don‘t see them like fairy tales. 87 00:07:21,149 --> 00:07:23,151 These stories are powerful, 88 00:07:23,318 --> 00:07:26,613 and some of them are dangerous and big. 89 00:07:29,491 --> 00:07:31,785 Maybe that's because my upbringing was 90 00:07:31,868 --> 00:07:35,914 a little bit scattered and not normal in some ways. 91 00:07:44,339 --> 00:07:46,341 My mother was born and raised 92 00:07:46,424 --> 00:07:48,677 in the Six Nation Indian reserve. 93 00:07:49,594 --> 00:07:51,179 Her name was Dolly. 94 00:07:54,182 --> 00:07:56,518 When she was around 16 years old, 95 00:07:56,726 --> 00:07:59,938 she was sent to live with an aunt in Toronto. 96 00:08:04,317 --> 00:08:06,236 When we would go back to visit 97 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,655 the relatives in the Indian reserve, 98 00:08:08,905 --> 00:08:11,282 I thought this was a magical place. 99 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:14,452 It seemed like every day, 100 00:08:14,536 --> 00:08:16,788 when the sun started to go down, 101 00:08:17,372 --> 00:08:19,457 the instruments would come out. 102 00:08:25,630 --> 00:08:28,299 And I could sit in the middle of this, 103 00:08:28,383 --> 00:08:31,344 and hear the fingers on the strings, 104 00:08:31,428 --> 00:08:34,973 and the hands rubbing on the skins of the drum. 105 00:08:38,810 --> 00:08:41,438 My parents got me a little guitar 106 00:08:41,896 --> 00:08:44,399 with a cowboy painted on it. 107 00:08:44,816 --> 00:08:46,234 I already know 108 00:08:46,359 --> 00:08:48,445 a couple of chords on the guitar 109 00:08:48,528 --> 00:08:51,906 that my relatives at Six Nations have taught me. 110 00:08:57,203 --> 00:08:59,205 I would practice 111 00:08:59,289 --> 00:09:00,707 and practice. 112 00:09:01,332 --> 00:09:03,376 This is where I belong. 113 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,754 This is calling me. 114 00:09:08,631 --> 00:09:10,800 I don't know for sure 115 00:09:11,009 --> 00:09:14,971 whether I would ever have found my way to music 116 00:09:15,263 --> 00:09:17,265 without this experience, 117 00:09:18,725 --> 00:09:19,976 and that's why I have 118 00:09:20,060 --> 00:09:22,145 such a deep appreciation 119 00:09:22,854 --> 00:09:23,980 for that place. 120 00:09:38,703 --> 00:09:42,373 And then we crossed into a time zone 121 00:09:42,540 --> 00:09:44,709 when I was 13 years old. 122 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:57,847 Overnight, out of nowhere, 123 00:09:58,264 --> 00:10:01,559 this new music came pouring out. 124 00:10:01,893 --> 00:10:04,938 Deep down in Louisiana Close to New Orleans 125 00:10:05,021 --> 00:10:07,607 Way back up in the woods Among the evergreens 126 00:10:07,690 --> 00:10:10,235 There stood a log cabin made Of earth and wood 127 00:10:10,318 --> 00:10:13,571 Where lived a country boy Named Johnny B. Goode 128 00:10:13,655 --> 00:10:16,658 Who never ever learned To read or write so well 129 00:10:16,741 --> 00:10:19,285 But he could play a guitar Just like a-ringin' a bell 130 00:10:19,661 --> 00:10:23,206 For guys my age, it was a life-altering moment. 131 00:10:23,289 --> 00:10:25,083 Like, it just cut against the grain 132 00:10:25,291 --> 00:10:28,211 of the mundaneness of entertainment at that time. 133 00:10:32,215 --> 00:10:33,842 You know, it’s raw, it's load, 134 00:10:33,925 --> 00:10:35,635 it's raucous, it's tough. 135 00:10:36,052 --> 00:10:39,681 You know, the guitar sound is loud and thrilling. 136 00:10:44,394 --> 00:10:45,645 It immediately 137 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:47,564 imparted to you this entire new way 138 00:10:47,730 --> 00:10:49,649 of living, of looking, 139 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:51,985 of walking, of talking, of being, 140 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,737 of the possibility of what you might be able to do 141 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:58,408 with your life. It was a revolutionary moment, you know. 142 00:10:59,742 --> 00:11:00,743 I thought of it 143 00:11:00,827 --> 00:11:04,414 as my own personal big bang. 144 00:11:04,622 --> 00:11:06,124 Lucille 145 00:11:06,875 --> 00:11:08,751 You won‘t do Your sister's will 146 00:11:11,337 --> 00:11:12,797 Lucille 147 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:15,550 You won‘t do Your sister's will 148 00:11:15,717 --> 00:11:18,303 I thought, "That's it. I don't know 149 00:11:18,386 --> 00:11:20,013 what all you people are gonna do, 150 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:22,015 but I know what I'm gonna do." 151 00:11:25,351 --> 00:11:27,020 Within weeks, 152 00:11:27,103 --> 00:11:28,813 I was in my first band. 153 00:11:28,897 --> 00:11:31,107 We were off and running. 154 00:11:31,566 --> 00:11:33,401 I'm walkin', yes indeed 155 00:11:33,484 --> 00:11:36,070 And I'm talkin' About you and me, I’m hopin' 156 00:11:36,654 --> 00:11:38,740 That you come back to me... 157 00:11:38,823 --> 00:11:40,533 My schoolmates, they're like, 158 00:11:40,825 --> 00:11:43,745 "One of these days, I wanna have my own bowling alley." 159 00:11:43,828 --> 00:11:47,540 I‘d be like, "Oh, my God, your own bowling... 160 00:11:47,624 --> 00:11:49,918 You could bowl for free all you wanted, right?" 161 00:11:51,628 --> 00:11:53,922 I don't have that vision. 162 00:11:54,547 --> 00:11:56,633 I saw something else, and the lights 163 00:11:56,758 --> 00:11:58,343 were really bright. 164 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:04,724 Within a couple years, we were getting somewhere, 165 00:12:04,807 --> 00:12:07,852 booking different shows around Toronto. 166 00:12:08,436 --> 00:12:11,898 A local DJ booked us to open 167 00:12:12,148 --> 00:12:14,525 for Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks. 168 00:12:20,114 --> 00:12:23,284 Well, I had a little woman 169 00:12:23,576 --> 00:12:25,954 And her name was Baby Jean 170 00:12:26,955 --> 00:12:30,250 Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks had 171 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:32,752 a reputation to be the best 172 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,171 rockabilly band around. 173 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,590 - Baby Jean, Baby Jean - Baby Jean 174 00:12:37,674 --> 00:12:39,717 - Baby Jean - Don‘t be mean 175 00:12:41,135 --> 00:12:43,263 These guys were up there 176 00:12:43,388 --> 00:12:46,391 with Jerry Lee Lewis, Conway Twitty, 177 00:12:46,474 --> 00:12:48,977 Carl Perkins, they were in that league. 178 00:12:49,394 --> 00:12:51,396 My baby 179 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:54,065 Well, I learned To lose my mind 180 00:12:54,565 --> 00:12:56,901 We didn't know anything about Canada. 181 00:12:57,443 --> 00:13:00,113 We figured, Canada is the wilderness, they've still got 182 00:13:00,196 --> 00:13:02,615 mountain men, you know, eating each other, 183 00:13:02,699 --> 00:13:04,284 stuff like that. 184 00:13:04,575 --> 00:13:07,120 We didn't know nothing about Canada. Boy, and Canada is 185 00:13:07,203 --> 00:13:09,247 the promised land compared to where we came from. 186 00:13:10,456 --> 00:13:12,250 We played our hearts out. 187 00:13:12,333 --> 00:13:14,877 Then Ronnie Hawkins and the Hawks take 188 00:13:14,961 --> 00:13:18,673 the stage. Oh, my God. They took flight. 189 00:13:18,881 --> 00:13:20,008 …back home 190 00:13:21,342 --> 00:13:23,428 I‘m gonna call up A gypsy woman 191 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,179 On the telephone 192 00:13:26,389 --> 00:13:29,017 I'm gonna send out A worldwide hoc-doc 193 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,352 That'd be the very thing That'd suit you 194 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:33,396 I'm gonna see to it She will be back home 195 00:13:33,479 --> 00:13:35,273 In 40 days 196 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:38,359 - Oh, 40 days - 40 days 197 00:13:38,443 --> 00:13:40,028 Ronnie Hawkins was 198 00:13:40,153 --> 00:13:42,447 over here. Boom, he was over there. 199 00:13:42,530 --> 00:13:44,032 He was singing just in time. 200 00:13:44,115 --> 00:13:45,867 The piano player would be 201 00:13:45,950 --> 00:13:49,162 playing a solo, keys would be flying off 202 00:13:49,287 --> 00:13:51,497 the piano, he was hitting it so hard. 203 00:13:57,962 --> 00:14:00,214 There was a guy playing drums 204 00:14:00,298 --> 00:14:02,800 who looked like he was 15 years old, 205 00:14:02,884 --> 00:14:04,844 with white-blonde hair, 206 00:14:04,927 --> 00:14:08,473 and he was twirling sticks, and he was laughing, 207 00:14:08,556 --> 00:14:09,974 and smiling, 208 00:14:10,058 --> 00:14:12,393 and he just seemed to glow in the dark, 209 00:14:12,518 --> 00:14:15,480 and his name was Levon Helm. 210 00:14:20,651 --> 00:14:22,820 Well, I started with Ronnie when I was trying 211 00:14:22,904 --> 00:14:25,031 to get out of high school back in Arkansas. 212 00:14:25,114 --> 00:14:27,158 Ronnie was putting a band together. 213 00:14:27,241 --> 00:14:29,285 I got into it to play drums. 214 00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:31,162 We hit the road, played around for years, 215 00:14:31,245 --> 00:14:33,414 and ended up playing up in Canada. 216 00:14:33,873 --> 00:14:36,376 That'd be the very thing That‘d suit you... 217 00:14:36,459 --> 00:14:40,213 This is it. This is the most amazing thing 218 00:14:40,463 --> 00:14:42,090 on the planet Earth. 219 00:14:46,135 --> 00:14:49,180 After they played, I just stand around. 220 00:14:49,389 --> 00:14:52,433 I wanted to help out in any way I could, 221 00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:55,061 to have this rub off on me, 222 00:14:55,144 --> 00:14:58,147 this music, this talent, 223 00:14:58,439 --> 00:15:00,024 this southern-ness. 224 00:15:00,108 --> 00:15:02,276 I stack to them like glue. 225 00:15:04,987 --> 00:15:06,531 I knew right off the bat 226 00:15:06,614 --> 00:15:08,324 Robbie had something special. I don‘t know, 227 00:15:08,408 --> 00:15:10,326 he must've been 15 or 16 years old. 228 00:15:10,785 --> 00:15:12,537 Baba Lou... 229 00:15:12,620 --> 00:15:14,789 But he was hip. Robbie was street hip. 230 00:15:15,206 --> 00:15:17,125 He was a hell of a young man. 231 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,130 One day, I heard Ronnie Hawkins 232 00:15:22,213 --> 00:15:25,550 saying to the other guys, "I gotta cut a new record. 233 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,260 I need some songs. " 234 00:15:27,343 --> 00:15:30,721 I scampered home, went to my room, 235 00:15:30,847 --> 00:15:34,392 and never came out until l wrote two songs. 236 00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:40,773 I will love her Till my dying day 237 00:15:40,857 --> 00:15:42,942 Don't know why she left 238 00:15:43,025 --> 00:15:44,569 Left me this way: 239 00:15:44,902 --> 00:15:47,822 Left me here all alone 240 00:15:47,905 --> 00:15:51,075 To sit and cry on my own... 241 00:15:51,492 --> 00:15:53,995 Robbie was writing songs when he was 15 years old. 242 00:15:54,078 --> 00:15:57,206 I recorded two of said songs on my album 243 00:15:57,290 --> 00:15:59,959 before anybody ever thought about Robbie Robertson. 244 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,259 At that time, Robbie dropped out of school. 245 00:16:08,676 --> 00:16:10,136 His mother, Dolly, 246 00:16:10,219 --> 00:16:11,762 she was worried about him. 247 00:16:13,264 --> 00:16:14,599 Baba Lou... 248 00:16:14,724 --> 00:16:16,684 There had been quite a period 249 00:16:16,893 --> 00:16:19,979 where my parents weren‘t getting along. 250 00:16:20,771 --> 00:16:23,399 My father, Jim Robertson, 251 00:16:23,608 --> 00:16:26,819 was being quite abusive with my mother, 252 00:16:26,903 --> 00:16:28,279 and with me. 253 00:16:30,156 --> 00:16:32,366 And one day she said to me, 254 00:16:32,825 --> 00:16:34,577 "Sit down, I... I need 255 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:36,078 to tell you something. 256 00:16:36,787 --> 00:16:39,415 And maybe I should've told you this before, 257 00:16:39,665 --> 00:16:42,376 but he's not your real father.“ 258 00:16:46,964 --> 00:16:47,965 "What? 259 00:16:48,674 --> 00:16:51,886 I... What do you mean, he's not my real father?" 260 00:16:53,930 --> 00:16:56,474 Robbie's real daddy was a Hebrew gangster. 261 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:58,768 Yeah, they killed him, they shot him on... 262 00:16:58,851 --> 00:17:00,061 Yonge Street, I think. 263 00:17:06,317 --> 00:17:07,777 My mother says, 264 00:17:07,860 --> 00:17:10,279 "Your blood father, his name was 265 00:17:10,446 --> 00:17:12,573 Alexander Klegerman. 266 00:17:13,574 --> 00:17:16,035 He got killed before you were born. 267 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:18,371 He's Jewish. " 268 00:17:19,205 --> 00:17:21,499 And she introduced me 269 00:17:21,582 --> 00:17:24,752 to the relatives of my blood father, 270 00:17:24,835 --> 00:17:27,922 Natie Klegerman and Morrie Klegerman. 271 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:31,133 They bring me into their world 272 00:17:31,217 --> 00:17:34,262 with tremendous love and affection. 273 00:17:34,470 --> 00:17:36,347 I met his uncle who'd been in the penitentiary 274 00:17:36,430 --> 00:17:37,890 ten years. He was a gangster too. 275 00:17:38,975 --> 00:17:41,644 Through these relatives of mine, 276 00:17:41,852 --> 00:17:44,730 I'm understanding what's been stirring 277 00:17:44,814 --> 00:17:46,857 inside of me all this time. 278 00:17:46,941 --> 00:17:49,026 They understand vision. 279 00:17:49,485 --> 00:17:51,904 They understand ambition. 280 00:17:52,655 --> 00:17:54,907 When I told the Klegermans 281 00:17:54,991 --> 00:17:57,910 I had musical ambitions, they were like, 282 00:17:58,077 --> 00:18:00,079 "rock‘n'roll? You don't wanna be 283 00:18:00,162 --> 00:18:02,456 in furs and diamonds, you wanna be in that...?" 284 00:18:02,540 --> 00:18:06,168 And then they were like, "Oh, you mean, show business." 285 00:18:11,173 --> 00:18:12,842 I‘m 16 years old now. 286 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:17,054 Ronnie Hawkins says, "I want you to come down to Arkansas 287 00:18:17,179 --> 00:18:20,808 and try out to become one of the Hawks. " 288 00:18:21,475 --> 00:18:24,520 If I didn't go down there and try out for this, 289 00:18:24,770 --> 00:18:27,565 I would be sorry the rest of my life. 290 00:18:28,065 --> 00:18:32,153 I sold my '56 Stratocaster, 291 00:18:32,278 --> 00:18:35,615 I got the money to take a train from Toronto 292 00:18:35,740 --> 00:18:37,241 to Fayetteville, Arkansas. 293 00:18:54,091 --> 00:18:57,303 I'm going to the Mississippi Delta, 294 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,930 to the fountainhead of rock'n' roll. 295 00:19:01,265 --> 00:19:04,560 "This is it, this is it. I've gotta make this work. " 296 00:19:04,977 --> 00:19:07,647 I can't do it all by myself 297 00:19:07,730 --> 00:19:10,566 So many amazing music people came out of there. 298 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,568 You got to help me, baby: 299 00:19:13,736 --> 00:19:15,988 I can't do it all by myself 300 00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:21,369 You know If you don't help me, darling Æ 301 00:19:22,453 --> 00:19:23,579 This music 302 00:19:23,871 --> 00:19:25,539 is down and dirty. 303 00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:27,541 And it's heavy, 304 00:19:27,875 --> 00:19:29,001 just like the air. 305 00:19:38,302 --> 00:19:39,804 Growin' up there in the Delta, 306 00:19:39,929 --> 00:19:42,848 just in the Memphis, West Memphis area there, 307 00:19:42,932 --> 00:19:45,810 we had as good a radio as you could find. 308 00:19:45,893 --> 00:19:47,645 Our jukeboxes and radios 309 00:19:47,728 --> 00:19:49,855 weren't running short of good songs. 310 00:19:50,898 --> 00:19:53,109 I consider myself fortunate to have 311 00:19:53,192 --> 00:19:56,529 grown up there and heard the kind of music that I did. 312 00:20:03,703 --> 00:20:04,620 Robbie was 313 00:20:04,704 --> 00:20:06,372 a hell of a gifted musician, I can tell you that. 314 00:20:06,455 --> 00:20:08,749 But what made him better than anybody else is 315 00:20:08,833 --> 00:20:10,000 he worked twice as hard. 316 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,212 Finally, Ronnie says, 317 00:20:13,462 --> 00:20:15,631 "I'm gonna offer you the job." 318 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:20,636 I say, "You‘ll never have to tell me to work harder." 319 00:20:20,928 --> 00:20:24,265 He said, “I know." So I say, "Great. 320 00:20:24,348 --> 00:20:27,184 How much will I get paid working for you?" 321 00:20:27,268 --> 00:20:29,145 And I said, "Well, don't worry about the money, kid. 322 00:20:29,228 --> 00:20:31,105 You ain't gonna make much money, 323 00:20:31,188 --> 00:20:33,566 but you'll be gettin' more pussy than Frank Sinatra.“ 324 00:20:33,774 --> 00:20:34,775 And he did. 325 00:20:37,445 --> 00:20:39,363 Hey, Bo Diddley 326 00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:41,073 Hey, Bo Diddley 327 00:20:41,157 --> 00:20:43,617 Hey, Bo Diddley 328 00:20:43,701 --> 00:20:45,828 Hey, Bo Diddley... 329 00:20:45,911 --> 00:20:48,998 I depended on Levon to show me the road. 330 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,333 He had grown, 331 00:20:51,417 --> 00:20:52,668 in my eyes, 332 00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:55,546 bigger than life. When he laughed, 333 00:20:56,088 --> 00:20:57,339 everybody laughed. 334 00:20:58,799 --> 00:21:00,634 They were the best friends you could ever be. 335 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,887 They were like Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer. 336 00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:04,930 It was a hell of a combination, I thought, 337 00:21:05,055 --> 00:21:07,349 because Levon could put the arrangements and stuff together 338 00:21:07,558 --> 00:21:09,727 and do all that, and Robbie could write the songs. 339 00:21:12,062 --> 00:21:13,564 When I saw Robbie play guitar, 340 00:21:13,647 --> 00:21:14,940 it just blew my mind. 341 00:21:15,065 --> 00:21:17,735 Every guitar player in Toronto learned from Robbie. 342 00:21:17,818 --> 00:21:19,779 He changed the whole ballgame up here. 343 00:21:19,862 --> 00:21:21,614 I can remember people discussing, 344 00:21:21,697 --> 00:21:24,533 "How does Robbie make that guitar sound?" 345 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:26,702 That was the big mystery. 346 00:21:26,827 --> 00:21:28,704 There was, like, stories going around 347 00:21:28,829 --> 00:21:30,831 that, oh, he slashed his speakers, 348 00:21:30,956 --> 00:21:32,875 brake a couple of tubes in the amp. 349 00:21:32,958 --> 00:21:36,712 Every guitar player I met after that was doing the same thing. 350 00:21:36,921 --> 00:21:39,840 I watched them all change from their old style of playing 351 00:21:39,924 --> 00:21:42,009 to the new Robbie style of playing, 352 00:21:42,092 --> 00:21:43,969 and I was... I was one of the pack. 353 00:21:58,734 --> 00:22:01,654 Ronnie depends on Levon and I 354 00:22:01,737 --> 00:22:04,824 to help him choose musicians 355 00:22:04,907 --> 00:22:07,076 that have potential. 356 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,082 Ronnie wants to have the best band in the land. 357 00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:14,834 Have you ever heard me sing? 358 00:22:14,959 --> 00:22:16,627 I‘ll better have a good band. 359 00:22:18,254 --> 00:22:19,630 The Arkansas boys would quit 360 00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:21,507 and Ronnie would replace 361 00:22:21,590 --> 00:22:23,300 with a Canadian musician. 362 00:22:23,926 --> 00:22:26,554 Within a fairly short time, we had 363 00:22:26,637 --> 00:22:28,889 Richard, Rick, and when Garth 364 00:22:29,056 --> 00:22:31,934 finally joined the outfit, I think that gave us a leg up. 365 00:22:33,853 --> 00:22:36,480 We didn't know a musician 366 00:22:36,689 --> 00:22:38,190 that could do what he could do. 367 00:22:38,482 --> 00:22:41,026 Garth understood Muddy Waters 368 00:22:41,318 --> 00:22:44,238 and Bach in the same sentence. 369 00:22:44,947 --> 00:22:48,784 Richard was an incredibly beautiful soul. 370 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:51,161 You couldn't help but just love the guy. 371 00:22:51,704 --> 00:22:53,163 It was kind of like boot camp. 372 00:22:53,247 --> 00:22:54,999 I mean, we drove ourselves 373 00:22:55,291 --> 00:22:57,585 to as near perfection as we could get, you know? 374 00:22:57,668 --> 00:23:00,921 To the point where we'd really thrill each other. 375 00:23:01,297 --> 00:23:03,632 Rick was one of these people that was like, 376 00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,551 "Trombone, bass, tuba, 377 00:23:05,634 --> 00:23:09,305 Violin, whatever it is, I can do it." 378 00:23:09,763 --> 00:23:11,891 We were kids playing in bars 379 00:23:11,974 --> 00:23:13,934 that you were supposed to be 21 to play in. 380 00:23:14,018 --> 00:23:16,186 We were 17, 18, 19. It can 381 00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:18,898 get pretty outrageous when you‘re out there that young. 382 00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:21,609 Further on up the road 383 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:25,237 Someone gonna hurt you Like you hurt me 384 00:23:27,156 --> 00:23:29,283 Further on up the road 385 00:23:30,034 --> 00:23:31,410 Robbie's mom, Dolly, 386 00:23:31,493 --> 00:23:33,537 she helped The Band out more than anybody. 387 00:23:33,621 --> 00:23:35,748 She would give them places to stay cheap, 388 00:23:35,831 --> 00:23:37,625 fed'em, cooked. She did everything. 389 00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:39,168 She was somethin' else. 390 00:23:39,501 --> 00:23:41,462 Baby, just you wait and see 391 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:46,050 We played six days a week and we practiced five. 392 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:48,093 That's how come they got good. 393 00:23:48,177 --> 00:23:50,721 They were probably the best white rhythm and blues band 394 00:23:50,804 --> 00:23:53,515 in the world at that time. When they were young, 395 00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:55,309 they were absorbing all that knowledge quick. 396 00:23:55,684 --> 00:23:58,687 They shot by me musically like a bolt of lightning. 397 00:23:59,647 --> 00:24:02,566 We were outgrowing the past 398 00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:05,778 and the music that we were playing with Ronnie. 399 00:24:18,499 --> 00:24:20,918 When we left Ronnie, we ended up 400 00:24:21,001 --> 00:24:23,045 playing at a club in New York, 401 00:24:23,504 --> 00:24:26,382 and one day my friend, John Hammond, 402 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:28,425 a great musician, blues singer, 403 00:24:28,509 --> 00:24:30,427 he came and picked me up at the hotel, 404 00:24:30,511 --> 00:24:33,639 and we're going to the Columbia Records Building, 405 00:24:33,847 --> 00:24:35,265 to one of the studios. 406 00:24:35,891 --> 00:24:38,727 We go in. I see over in the corner 407 00:24:38,811 --> 00:24:42,272 this guy with dark glasses on 408 00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:45,109 and frizzly hair, and John says, 409 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,069 "This is Bob Dylan." 410 00:24:57,746 --> 00:24:59,957 Once upon a time You dressed so fine 411 00:25:00,082 --> 00:25:01,375 Threw the bums a dime 412 00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:04,753 In your prime, didn‘t you? 413 00:25:05,546 --> 00:25:08,882 Bob Dylan‘s a really respected songwriter. 414 00:25:08,966 --> 00:25:11,552 He was best known to me as a folk singer 415 00:25:11,635 --> 00:25:14,513 with a guitar and he has a harmonica. 416 00:25:14,596 --> 00:25:17,558 And he sings his beautiful songs. 417 00:25:17,641 --> 00:25:20,352 Folk music, from what we knew, 418 00:25:20,436 --> 00:25:23,564 was happening over by a university somewhere, 419 00:25:23,647 --> 00:25:25,983 and people were sipping cappuccinos, 420 00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:27,860 listening to folk music. 421 00:25:27,943 --> 00:25:28,819 Where we're playing, 422 00:25:28,902 --> 00:25:30,362 on the other side of the tracks, 423 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:33,407 there ain't nobody sipping cappuccinos over there. 424 00:25:34,324 --> 00:25:36,744 I didn't know a whole lot about Bob. 425 00:25:36,827 --> 00:25:39,038 We were more into R&B 426 00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,665 and blues music. 427 00:25:44,877 --> 00:25:46,628 When we left Ronnie, 428 00:25:47,171 --> 00:25:48,964 I wanna be something original, 429 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:50,966 I don't wanna be a bar band. 430 00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:53,552 I've gotta come back to writing. 431 00:25:53,635 --> 00:25:55,554 I'm having dreams 432 00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:58,432 about finding a sanctuary, 433 00:25:58,515 --> 00:26:00,434 finding a place that we can go, 434 00:26:00,517 --> 00:26:03,604 and we can bone these skills, and we're just not 435 00:26:03,812 --> 00:26:06,440 on the road driving to the next gig. 436 00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:08,817 They were playing these gigs, 437 00:26:08,901 --> 00:26:11,612 trying to get a recording deal. I said, "Well, gee, you know, 438 00:26:11,779 --> 00:26:13,489 how about we make a record together? 439 00:26:13,572 --> 00:26:15,616 And I was signed to Vanguard Records. 440 00:26:15,699 --> 00:26:19,411 And they gave us, like, a three-hour window to record. 441 00:26:19,495 --> 00:26:22,456 I invited my friend Bob Dylan to the recording day. 442 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,249 So I introduced them to Dylan. 443 00:26:24,416 --> 00:26:26,835 And… and Dylan flipped out, I mean, 444 00:26:27,002 --> 00:26:29,338 he thought these guys were phenomenal. 445 00:26:29,671 --> 00:26:31,465 What we didn't know 446 00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:33,467 is that Bob's already doing 447 00:26:33,550 --> 00:26:35,260 the rock'n' roll thing. 448 00:26:45,813 --> 00:26:48,607 He wanted to hire an amazing band 449 00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:51,735 that he could take on tour with him. 450 00:26:51,819 --> 00:26:53,737 So he hired the guys. 451 00:27:03,288 --> 00:27:06,416 When you're lost In the rain 452 00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:07,793 In Juarez 453 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:09,920 And it's Easter time too 454 00:27:12,506 --> 00:27:14,758 Bob Dylan‘s thing was like a detour. 455 00:27:15,092 --> 00:27:17,219 We're hacking up with this guy, 456 00:27:17,302 --> 00:27:19,888 and he's changing the course of music. 457 00:27:20,514 --> 00:27:21,723 He's like... 458 00:27:21,807 --> 00:27:23,851 the king of the folk movement 459 00:27:23,934 --> 00:27:26,895 who now wants a rock'n' roll band. 460 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:29,231 Huh! That's not a bad thing 461 00:27:29,398 --> 00:27:31,817 to experience along the way too. 462 00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,319 We thought, "Let's take that detour." 463 00:27:35,112 --> 00:27:37,948 They got Some hungry women there 464 00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,200 And they really make a mess 465 00:27:40,284 --> 00:27:42,202 Out of you 466 00:27:42,744 --> 00:27:46,081 We hook up with him, and have no idea 467 00:27:46,206 --> 00:27:47,374 that he's the only one 468 00:27:47,457 --> 00:27:49,418 that thinks this is a good idea. 469 00:27:49,501 --> 00:27:52,671 The rest of the world hates this idea. 470 00:27:52,754 --> 00:27:56,133 We play with him and they boo us every night. 471 00:27:56,216 --> 00:27:59,595 It is weird that people could 472 00:27:59,803 --> 00:28:03,223 be this upset about this guy 473 00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:05,058 just wanting to expand 474 00:28:05,142 --> 00:28:06,852 his musical horizon 475 00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:08,979 and play with other musicians. 476 00:28:18,906 --> 00:28:22,993 Ol' black Bascom Don't break no mirrors 477 00:28:23,368 --> 00:28:27,289 Cold black water dog Make no tears 478 00:28:27,372 --> 00:28:30,125 We'd go somewhere, we set up our equipment, 479 00:28:30,375 --> 00:28:31,376 we play. 480 00:28:32,502 --> 00:28:34,671 People come, they boo us, 481 00:28:34,755 --> 00:28:38,091 sometimes throw things. We'd pack up our equipment, 482 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,010 go on to the next place, 483 00:28:40,093 --> 00:28:42,721 set up, play, they boo us. 484 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:45,766 I think, "What a strange way to make a buck." 485 00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:50,812 Kids would break for the stage, 486 00:28:51,021 --> 00:28:53,523 cops were making open-field tackles... 487 00:28:54,274 --> 00:28:56,151 out in front of the stage. 488 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,070 and Bob had told us, you know, 489 00:28:58,153 --> 00:29:00,113 whatever happens, just don't stop playing. 490 00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:02,866 Tell me, Mamma 491 00:29:05,369 --> 00:29:07,579 Tell me, Mamma 492 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,334 Tell me, Mamma, what is it? 493 00:29:14,419 --> 00:29:16,380 What's wrong with you 494 00:29:16,463 --> 00:29:18,298 This time? 495 00:29:19,258 --> 00:29:20,509 Cool car! 496 00:29:20,842 --> 00:29:23,595 Get the bass in with Robbie. Let's go. 497 00:29:24,054 --> 00:29:26,181 Let's go, we have to go now. Hey, tell them we have to go. 498 00:29:26,265 --> 00:29:28,016 Hey, don't pull my fingers! 499 00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,852 So long. So long, don't boo me anymore! 500 00:29:31,603 --> 00:29:34,898 When they yell in this weird nasal tone. 501 00:29:34,982 --> 00:29:37,484 Oh. Jesus, you know, I don't understand why they... 502 00:29:37,567 --> 00:29:39,778 how can they buy the tickets up so fast? 503 00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:41,280 Let's get that light off. 504 00:29:54,918 --> 00:29:58,046 Levon expressed to me that there was 505 00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:00,507 something in this whole world 506 00:30:00,590 --> 00:30:03,552 that we had entered into that just didn‘t feel right to him. 507 00:30:04,553 --> 00:30:05,971 And the idea that we would 508 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:10,142 go out and play and people would boo us, 509 00:30:10,392 --> 00:30:12,811 he thought that was just ridiculous. 510 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,896 And I… I was 511 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:16,857 much closer to Bob 512 00:30:16,940 --> 00:30:19,026 than the other guys were. 513 00:30:19,192 --> 00:30:21,820 I don't think Levon felt good about that, either. 514 00:30:22,529 --> 00:30:24,323 I bet you might 515 00:30:24,406 --> 00:30:28,327 Think it's foolish To be this way 516 00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:30,996 And am I sane? To who? 517 00:30:32,873 --> 00:30:35,292 One night, Levon comes 518 00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:38,086 to my hotel room and he says, 519 00:30:38,378 --> 00:30:41,465 “I don't like this music. I don't like these people. 520 00:30:42,132 --> 00:30:43,717 I don't wanna be here. 521 00:30:43,967 --> 00:30:46,428 And I don't wanna be in anybody's band. 522 00:30:48,055 --> 00:30:49,222 I wanna go." 523 00:30:51,433 --> 00:30:53,894 He didn't go anywhere without me. 524 00:30:54,603 --> 00:30:57,064 He said, "I'm gonna go down to New Orleans 525 00:30:57,439 --> 00:30:59,900 and maybe work on an oil rig 526 00:31:00,067 --> 00:31:03,320 in the Gulf of Mexico. " And I said, 527 00:31:03,570 --> 00:31:05,447 "Have you told the other guys?" 528 00:31:05,781 --> 00:31:08,450 He said, "No, I haven't spoke to the other guys. 529 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:10,160 I'd like you to do that for me." 530 00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:12,454 Sometimes, you know 531 00:31:12,746 --> 00:31:14,831 ”Tell them I wish them well, 532 00:31:14,915 --> 00:31:17,334 and I'll see them down the line." 533 00:31:18,168 --> 00:31:21,004 So I walked him down the street, 534 00:31:21,088 --> 00:31:23,715 and I put my arm around his shoulders 535 00:31:23,799 --> 00:31:25,258 as we were walking along. 536 00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:27,677 He felt beat up to me. 537 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:32,724 And I knew that he was really in pain. 538 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:34,893 My heart was breaking. 539 00:31:35,060 --> 00:31:38,021 My partner, my brother... 540 00:31:39,731 --> 00:31:42,025 has left, has gone. 541 00:31:42,150 --> 00:31:44,194 I don't know how to do this 542 00:31:44,277 --> 00:31:45,445 Without Levon... 543 00:31:46,780 --> 00:31:48,532 but I'm gonna have to figure it out. 544 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,451 Well, she hit a wall 545 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,539 Back when I was young 546 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:02,796 But you're headed out 547 00:32:04,047 --> 00:32:05,799 But I'll be here 548 00:32:06,174 --> 00:32:08,218 She knows she's the one 549 00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:09,886 After Levon left, 550 00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,431 we had to get another drummer. 551 00:32:13,098 --> 00:32:14,724 Mickey Jones was his name 552 00:32:14,808 --> 00:32:16,893 and he was a terrific guy, 553 00:32:17,018 --> 00:32:19,438 but, boy, they were tough shoes to fill. 554 00:32:19,604 --> 00:32:21,314 Levon left a big hole. 555 00:32:35,912 --> 00:32:38,081 We play all over Europe, 556 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,459 and it just gets worse. 557 00:32:40,792 --> 00:32:43,128 We were thinking, ”Maybe they don't like it here, 558 00:32:43,211 --> 00:32:46,214 but when we go there, they'll probably feel differently. " 559 00:32:46,506 --> 00:32:49,009 - No. - Let me follow you down 560 00:32:49,092 --> 00:32:51,720 Being in the trenches with Bob on this fight 561 00:32:51,803 --> 00:32:53,263 probably reinforced their relationship. 562 00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:55,390 I think they became closer under fire. 563 00:32:56,141 --> 00:32:58,477 It's fun to revolt. Robbie's young, 564 00:32:58,685 --> 00:33:00,395 and you know, throwin' it in the faces 565 00:33:00,479 --> 00:33:01,980 of all these like, pissant, 566 00:33:02,063 --> 00:33:03,732 you know, people that are in tweeds, or whatever. 567 00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:06,610 I remember it well. The show was 568 00:33:06,693 --> 00:33:08,987 in two halves. In the first half, Bob came out and did 569 00:33:09,070 --> 00:33:11,364 his usual thing with the guitar and the harmonica. 570 00:33:11,490 --> 00:33:13,867 In the second half, he came out with the band. 571 00:33:13,950 --> 00:33:16,661 All through that second half, people were getting up 572 00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:18,788 and walking out, shouting, 573 00:33:19,498 --> 00:33:21,500 and Bob just came out and he said, "Well, you know, 574 00:33:21,583 --> 00:33:24,252 "you all may know this song. Um, remember how 575 00:33:24,336 --> 00:33:26,755 it goes? Well, here's how it goes now.“ You know? 576 00:33:35,222 --> 00:33:38,183 I remember saying to the other guys, 577 00:33:38,683 --> 00:33:41,102 "This is good. They're wrong. 578 00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:43,438 This is good. " 579 00:33:44,231 --> 00:33:46,316 And then you realize, 580 00:33:47,108 --> 00:33:49,653 you're in a musical revolution. 581 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,280 There is something going on here, 582 00:33:52,447 --> 00:33:55,033 and you have nothing to compare it to. 583 00:33:56,701 --> 00:33:57,953 It just made us 584 00:33:58,078 --> 00:34:01,164 feel like flexing our musical muscles. 585 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:04,793 We‘re gonna play this music in your face. 586 00:34:11,633 --> 00:34:13,718 The guys that were with me on that tour, 587 00:34:13,802 --> 00:34:15,512 you know, we were all in it together. 588 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:17,806 We were puttin' our heads in the lion's mouth. 589 00:34:17,889 --> 00:34:20,642 I had to admire them for sticking it out with me, 590 00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,269 just for doing it, in my book they were, 591 00:34:22,352 --> 00:34:24,229 you know... gallant knights 592 00:34:24,312 --> 00:34:26,648 for even, you know, standing behind me. 593 00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:30,986 Mr. Jones 594 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:48,044 One day, we were just taking a walk 595 00:34:48,128 --> 00:34:49,337 and looking in stores. 596 00:34:50,046 --> 00:34:54,467 I see two really pretty girls. 597 00:34:57,596 --> 00:34:59,556 We're taking a wonderful walk. It was 598 00:34:59,639 --> 00:35:02,642 the springtime in Paris. There was a gathering of people 599 00:35:02,809 --> 00:35:04,436 somewhere around the corner 600 00:35:04,686 --> 00:35:07,856 who began to talk to us, and asked us what we were doing. 601 00:35:08,857 --> 00:35:10,483 In broken English, 602 00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:15,238 they say they're journalists from Montreal. 603 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:17,240 I'm like, ”Wow! 604 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:19,409 I'm from Canada too. 605 00:35:19,743 --> 00:35:21,369 I‘m from Toronto. " 606 00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:24,289 And they look like, "Oh, that's too bad." 607 00:35:24,497 --> 00:35:26,750 And this whole thing at the time 608 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,961 between English-speaking and the French-speaking, 609 00:35:30,253 --> 00:35:32,714 they were in a revolutionary spirit. This is when they were 610 00:35:32,797 --> 00:35:35,675 putting bombs in mailboxes, 611 00:35:35,759 --> 00:35:37,719 and it was rough going. 612 00:35:37,927 --> 00:35:40,513 I'm on neutral territory, I'm in Paris. 613 00:35:40,597 --> 00:35:42,932 He looked like family to me from the beginning. 614 00:35:43,141 --> 00:35:46,686 It was like... I recognized him. 615 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:52,484 I am fancy dancing 616 00:35:52,609 --> 00:35:54,194 the best I can 617 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:56,029 to charm Dominique 618 00:35:56,279 --> 00:35:58,573 into thinking I'm not a bad person, 619 00:35:58,657 --> 00:35:59,699 I'm not the enemy. 620 00:36:00,075 --> 00:36:01,993 And we‘ve got to spend 621 00:36:02,077 --> 00:36:03,495 some time together. 622 00:36:05,246 --> 00:36:07,415 We went to the concert at the Olympia, 623 00:36:07,624 --> 00:36:09,751 and the crowd was roaring 624 00:36:09,834 --> 00:36:12,337 in anger about electric guitars. 625 00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:15,006 I didn‘t even realize 626 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:18,301 people were booing anymore. There was something 627 00:36:18,385 --> 00:36:19,886 about her spirit. 628 00:36:20,512 --> 00:36:23,807 There was something about her eyes and her smile, 629 00:36:24,057 --> 00:36:26,476 and it was a fire inside her. 630 00:36:28,395 --> 00:36:30,897 Even though I didn‘t speak his language, 631 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,899 I spoke a language that touched him. 632 00:36:35,318 --> 00:36:38,363 I was definitely falling in love with Robbie. 633 00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:47,997 When we got back to New York City, 634 00:36:48,081 --> 00:36:51,167 I invited her to come and join me there, 635 00:36:51,668 --> 00:36:53,378 and eventually she did. 636 00:36:54,754 --> 00:36:57,090 The other guys in the Hawks and myself 637 00:36:57,257 --> 00:36:59,217 were trying to find a place 638 00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:01,845 where we could start working on our music. 639 00:37:03,763 --> 00:37:06,850 Albert Grossman, Bob's manager, 640 00:37:06,933 --> 00:37:09,561 he had a place up in Woodstock, New York. 641 00:37:09,894 --> 00:37:11,688 Albert was 642 00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:15,817 an anomaly in the world of the record business people. 643 00:37:15,984 --> 00:37:17,318 He didn‘t wear a suit. 644 00:37:17,444 --> 00:37:20,280 His had his hair tied back in a ponytail. 645 00:37:20,530 --> 00:37:23,324 He looked like an overweight Benjamin Franklin. 646 00:37:23,658 --> 00:37:25,618 Albert took very good care of his artists. 647 00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:29,038 But as far as dealing with other people, he was shrewd. 648 00:37:29,581 --> 00:37:31,958 Bob had moved up to Woodstock, 649 00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:33,251 got a house. 650 00:37:33,376 --> 00:37:35,920 Albert would go up there on the weekends. 651 00:37:36,212 --> 00:37:39,090 So Albert says, "Come up to Woodstock. 652 00:37:39,174 --> 00:37:40,717 There's so much room up there. 653 00:37:40,884 --> 00:37:41,926 You can get a place. 654 00:37:42,177 --> 00:37:44,763 You can make all the sounds you want." 655 00:37:47,432 --> 00:37:50,435 It was a very welcoming possibility. 656 00:37:50,769 --> 00:37:52,812 He sits in your room 657 00:37:53,354 --> 00:37:56,191 His tomb With a fistful of tacks 658 00:37:56,775 --> 00:37:58,359 Rick found us 659 00:37:58,443 --> 00:38:00,445 this ugly pink house. 660 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:06,117 This is just what I‘ve been 661 00:38:06,242 --> 00:38:09,329 dreaming about all these years... 662 00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:11,831 a sanctuary that we could 663 00:38:11,956 --> 00:38:14,709 go and write and create. 664 00:38:19,172 --> 00:38:20,965 Oh, my god, I mean, a... 665 00:38:21,049 --> 00:38:22,967 pretty corny house, you know? 666 00:38:23,051 --> 00:38:24,552 But it was perfect. 667 00:38:28,181 --> 00:38:30,725 So we moved up to Woodstock. 668 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:33,311 We built a little studio 669 00:38:33,436 --> 00:38:36,689 in the basement, just for writing purposes. 670 00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:39,734 Garth, Richard, and Rick 671 00:38:39,818 --> 00:38:41,820 moved into this house. 672 00:38:42,946 --> 00:38:45,782 I called Bob, and I drive him out there 673 00:38:45,865 --> 00:38:47,200 to show him the place. 674 00:38:47,742 --> 00:38:50,495 And he comes in and he looks at this basement, 675 00:38:50,620 --> 00:38:53,498 and he sees all the instruments set up there, 676 00:38:53,581 --> 00:38:56,334 a little tape recorder; some microphones. 677 00:38:56,417 --> 00:39:00,505 He says, "Can you record music in this place?" 678 00:39:00,755 --> 00:39:03,800 And I was like, "Yeah, we've got that little tape recorder. 679 00:39:03,883 --> 00:39:06,302 It‘s not... you know, a recording studio, 680 00:39:06,553 --> 00:39:08,721 but it's pretty good for writing and stuff. " 681 00:39:09,013 --> 00:39:11,975 He said, "Listen, I've got a couple of song ideas 682 00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:15,603 I've been kicking around. Maybe we could try them here. " 683 00:39:16,062 --> 00:39:18,857 Great! That's the spirit. 684 00:39:19,566 --> 00:39:21,693 Now look here, Dear Sue 685 00:39:21,776 --> 00:39:23,695 You best feed the cats 686 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,947 The cats need feeding 687 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:27,949 You're the one to do it 688 00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:29,826 Get your head 689 00:39:30,910 --> 00:39:32,203 Feed the cats 690 00:39:32,829 --> 00:39:34,956 You ain't going nowhere 691 00:39:37,458 --> 00:39:39,168 Bob would come by, you know, 692 00:39:39,252 --> 00:39:41,045 every day for about a six, seven-month period, 693 00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:44,048 and we'd... we'd get together every afternoon 694 00:39:44,132 --> 00:39:46,551 six to seven days a week. And just from us 695 00:39:46,759 --> 00:39:48,678 getting together and applying ourselves, 696 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:53,558 - a lot does come out of that. - In the living room, 697 00:39:53,641 --> 00:39:55,351 there was a couple of typewriters, 698 00:39:55,476 --> 00:39:58,062 because Bob wrote songs on a typewriter. 699 00:39:58,146 --> 00:40:00,690 And he'd say, "Guys, let's go, let's go. 700 00:40:00,815 --> 00:40:03,902 I think I got something. Let's go." We'd all go downstairs, 701 00:40:04,027 --> 00:40:05,069 we would record it. 702 00:40:06,529 --> 00:40:08,323 No, not any harmony, 703 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:12,035 but harmony in the background like, ooh! 704 00:40:12,201 --> 00:40:14,662 - Whoa-oh... - Yeah, right. Why, why? 705 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:17,248 - You know, just... - Oh, Why... 706 00:40:17,332 --> 00:40:19,834 Every time I go to town 707 00:40:20,418 --> 00:40:23,504 The bars keep Kicking my dog around 708 00:40:24,005 --> 00:40:27,008 I don't know why I'm going to town 709 00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,844 I don't know Why they kick my dog around 710 00:40:29,928 --> 00:40:32,180 - Let me hear you now! - Dog, dog, dog 711 00:40:33,264 --> 00:40:35,266 Dog, dog, dog 712 00:40:35,892 --> 00:40:39,145 Working with Bob, I saw a door opening. 713 00:40:39,687 --> 00:40:42,440 He was making the possibility 714 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:46,152 of using poetry in songwriting 715 00:40:46,235 --> 00:40:49,072 like I had never quite seen before. 716 00:40:49,322 --> 00:40:51,866 It gave you a sense of liberty. 717 00:40:52,241 --> 00:40:54,786 You used to think, "I don‘t know if you can do that. 718 00:40:54,869 --> 00:40:57,330 I don't know, is it all right to say that? 719 00:40:57,413 --> 00:40:59,707 Can you express things in that kind of way?“ 720 00:41:00,249 --> 00:41:02,001 Boom, no rules. 721 00:41:02,418 --> 00:41:04,504 Well, that big, dumb blonde 722 00:41:04,587 --> 00:41:06,547 With her wheel gorged 723 00:41:07,006 --> 00:41:08,675 Turtle, that friend of hers 724 00:41:08,758 --> 00:41:12,512 With his checks all forged And his cheeks in a chunk 725 00:41:12,679 --> 00:41:14,847 With his cheese in the cash 726 00:41:14,931 --> 00:41:16,641 They're all gonna be there 727 00:41:16,766 --> 00:41:18,601 At that million-dollar bash 728 00:41:19,978 --> 00:41:21,854 Robbie is a real artist. 729 00:41:21,938 --> 00:41:24,857 He is an amazing creative force. 730 00:41:26,317 --> 00:41:27,694 I never saw him 731 00:41:27,777 --> 00:41:29,904 without a little pad of paper and a pencil, 732 00:41:29,988 --> 00:41:32,198 writing notes about everything. 733 00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,659 Some thought, some idea 734 00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:37,286 that he could use later in a song. 735 00:41:37,745 --> 00:41:40,790 She reads the leaves 736 00:41:40,873 --> 00:41:43,626 And she leads the life 737 00:41:43,710 --> 00:41:46,921 That she learned so well 738 00:41:47,422 --> 00:41:50,633 From the old wives 739 00:41:50,717 --> 00:41:53,511 It's so strange To arrange... 740 00:41:53,594 --> 00:41:56,639 When Dominique was becoming my girlfriend, 741 00:41:57,056 --> 00:42:00,143 her connection to French literature, 742 00:42:00,226 --> 00:42:02,186 poetry, music, 743 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:04,439 was rubbing off on me. 744 00:42:05,189 --> 00:42:07,817 The path that I was on intellectually, 745 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,361 boom, she altered it, 746 00:42:10,445 --> 00:42:13,406 and I was being highly inspired 747 00:42:13,698 --> 00:42:15,658 by what she was bringing 748 00:42:15,742 --> 00:42:17,243 to the table as well. 749 00:42:23,207 --> 00:42:25,585 I can't get to you... 750 00:42:26,544 --> 00:42:28,129 Albert Grossman 751 00:42:28,212 --> 00:42:30,173 was thinking about getting 752 00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:32,133 the Hawks a record deal. 753 00:42:32,258 --> 00:42:34,635 So he said, "You need to record 754 00:42:34,844 --> 00:42:37,305 a couple of your tunes so I can play them 755 00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:39,265 for some record companies. " 756 00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:42,101 So we went into a studio, 757 00:42:42,185 --> 00:42:44,228 and we got a session drummer. 758 00:42:44,312 --> 00:42:46,981 I was really not satisfied 759 00:42:47,065 --> 00:42:48,566 with what we did. 760 00:42:48,858 --> 00:42:52,153 If you have a… a table and one of the legs is missing, 761 00:42:52,236 --> 00:42:53,905 it doesn't sit steady. 762 00:42:54,113 --> 00:42:55,782 This was the sign, 763 00:42:55,948 --> 00:42:59,744 it's time for him to come back. We gotta find Levon. 764 00:43:00,411 --> 00:43:02,914 Ain't no more cane 765 00:43:02,997 --> 00:43:05,917 On the Brazos 766 00:43:08,127 --> 00:43:12,006 0oh, ooh, ooh 767 00:43:13,883 --> 00:43:15,802 We tracked him down and we told him 768 00:43:15,885 --> 00:43:18,346 about the place we had and that we were 769 00:43:18,429 --> 00:43:20,723 gonna get a record deal and all of this, 770 00:43:20,932 --> 00:43:22,642 and you could hear 771 00:43:22,725 --> 00:43:25,186 the joy in his voice. 772 00:43:26,062 --> 00:43:28,689 You should've Been on the river 773 00:43:29,565 --> 00:43:31,734 In 1910 774 00:43:32,693 --> 00:43:34,195 I remember meeting him 775 00:43:34,278 --> 00:43:37,740 and he was such a nice guy. He was such a charming person. 776 00:43:38,032 --> 00:43:40,118 There was a sense of relief 777 00:43:40,201 --> 00:43:42,078 in the band that he was back, 778 00:43:42,161 --> 00:43:44,539 and hopefully he would stay. 779 00:43:45,331 --> 00:43:48,417 Moved into the house there, there was an extra spot for me, 780 00:43:48,501 --> 00:43:50,211 and uh, started gettin' together, 781 00:43:50,294 --> 00:43:52,130 and just putting songs together. 782 00:43:52,338 --> 00:43:54,257 I had the sense that Levon realized 783 00:43:54,340 --> 00:43:56,300 he was coming back to a good thing. 784 00:43:56,467 --> 00:43:57,635 They were on a salary, 785 00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,220 they were able to make their own music. 786 00:43:59,303 --> 00:44:02,348 Woodstock was full of young people and lots of girls. 787 00:44:02,431 --> 00:44:04,267 It was better than being on an oil rig in the middle 788 00:44:04,350 --> 00:44:07,895 of the Gulf of Mexico. Robbie played the tapes 789 00:44:07,979 --> 00:44:09,730 that they had made, "The Basement Tapes ". 790 00:44:09,814 --> 00:44:11,732 Katie's been gone 791 00:44:11,816 --> 00:44:13,734 Since the springtime 792 00:44:13,818 --> 00:44:17,280 She wrote one time And sent her love 793 00:44:18,447 --> 00:44:19,991 Katie's been gone 794 00:44:20,074 --> 00:44:22,034 For such along time now... 795 00:44:22,118 --> 00:44:24,787 Levon's reaction was 796 00:44:24,871 --> 00:44:28,749 so extraordinary. He was blown away. 797 00:44:29,417 --> 00:44:31,294 We had never that kind of time 798 00:44:31,377 --> 00:44:33,963 on our hands, and there we are in the... 799 00:44:34,046 --> 00:44:36,674 in the Catskills, and we don't have a show to play that night, 800 00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:39,760 so we were enjoying it, just sitting around, you know, 801 00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:41,888 the freedom to go down and play some music, 802 00:44:41,971 --> 00:44:45,349 or go outside and throw a football around at each other. 803 00:44:45,892 --> 00:44:47,685 That was just part of a... 804 00:44:47,768 --> 00:44:50,104 a lifestyle that we got to love 805 00:44:50,229 --> 00:44:53,482 in Woodstock, you know, just being able to chap wood, 806 00:44:53,566 --> 00:44:55,735 or hit your thumb with a hammer. 807 00:44:56,485 --> 00:44:59,572 We'd be concerned with fixing the tape recorder 808 00:44:59,655 --> 00:45:01,532 and getting the songs together. 809 00:45:01,657 --> 00:45:04,577 We can talk about it now 810 00:45:05,453 --> 00:45:07,705 It's that same old riddle 811 00:45:07,788 --> 00:45:10,875 Only starting From the middle 812 00:45:11,083 --> 00:45:13,878 I'd fix it But I don‘t know how 813 00:45:14,045 --> 00:45:16,547 We had come out with a different sound, 814 00:45:16,631 --> 00:45:19,675 a different sensibility. The music didn't 815 00:45:19,884 --> 00:45:22,428 sound anything like what we did 816 00:45:22,511 --> 00:45:25,431 with Ronnie Hawkins, like anything we did 817 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,350 as Levon and the Hawks. 818 00:45:27,475 --> 00:45:29,936 It didn't sound like anything we did 819 00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:34,482 with Bob Dylan on the infamous tour, so having 820 00:45:34,565 --> 00:45:36,984 a new name felt natural as well. 821 00:45:39,028 --> 00:45:42,365 Pulling that eternal plough 822 00:45:42,865 --> 00:45:46,118 We‘ve got to find A sharper blade 823 00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:48,162 Or have a new one made 824 00:45:48,287 --> 00:45:50,498 In the town, people'd say, 825 00:45:50,581 --> 00:45:53,751 "Oh, those guys, they play with Bob. They're in the band. " 826 00:45:54,001 --> 00:45:55,795 And we kept hearing, 827 00:45:56,045 --> 00:45:58,589 "the band, " ”the band, " "the band. " 828 00:45:58,798 --> 00:46:01,092 And it felt unpretentious, 829 00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:02,677 un-jivy, 830 00:46:03,177 --> 00:46:04,178 un-cute. 831 00:46:04,762 --> 00:46:07,431 Just strictly The Band. 832 00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:10,142 We had done a lot of pre-production work, of course, 833 00:46:10,226 --> 00:46:13,521 at Big Pink. Robbie was doing a lot of the songwriting, 834 00:46:13,604 --> 00:46:15,564 you know, and doing a lot more homework likely 835 00:46:15,648 --> 00:46:18,484 than the rest of us. It was just a question of us 836 00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:20,820 arranging them, and putting them together; 837 00:46:20,903 --> 00:46:22,655 and making them as strong as possible 838 00:46:22,863 --> 00:46:24,031 and working together: 839 00:46:25,366 --> 00:46:27,952 We can talk about it now 840 00:46:29,370 --> 00:46:32,331 I came back to the house one evening. 841 00:46:32,623 --> 00:46:34,583 I thought, "I gotta do some writing 842 00:46:34,667 --> 00:46:36,794 for this record that we're working on. " 843 00:46:36,961 --> 00:46:38,879 And I'm thinking, "What am I gonna write about?" 844 00:46:39,463 --> 00:46:41,924 And I'm sitting there with a guitar, 845 00:46:42,049 --> 00:46:43,759 noodling around. 846 00:46:45,344 --> 00:46:48,723 I look in the guitar, and inside, 847 00:46:49,098 --> 00:46:50,725 on Martin Guitars, 848 00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:53,602 it talks about where they're made. 849 00:46:54,145 --> 00:46:57,398 And they're made in Nazareth, Pennsylvania. 850 00:46:58,858 --> 00:47:01,652 I pulled into Nazareth... 851 00:47:01,736 --> 00:47:04,071 And it just, it was all coming to me. 852 00:47:04,613 --> 00:47:06,490 Going from Canada 853 00:47:06,782 --> 00:47:08,993 down to the Mississippi Delta 854 00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,037 when I was 16 years old, 855 00:47:11,746 --> 00:47:15,207 characters and circumstances, 856 00:47:15,499 --> 00:47:18,711 all of it started to come back to me. 857 00:47:18,961 --> 00:47:21,005 And when I got to this chorus... 858 00:47:25,593 --> 00:47:27,553 And I could hear these voices... 859 00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:30,473 And... - And, and, and 860 00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:34,643 You put the load Right on me 861 00:47:35,644 --> 00:47:38,564 And the whole thing just blended together. 862 00:47:49,158 --> 00:47:51,077 I pulled into Nazareth 863 00:47:51,744 --> 00:47:54,830 Was feelin' 'Bout half-past dead 864 00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:58,000 I just need some place 865 00:47:58,417 --> 00:48:01,837 Where I can lay my head 866 00:48:02,463 --> 00:48:04,507 Hey, mister, Can you tell me 867 00:48:04,924 --> 00:48:07,593 Where a man might Find a bed? 868 00:48:08,844 --> 00:48:11,806 He just grinned And shock my hand 869 00:48:12,014 --> 00:48:13,557 "No, " was all he said 870 00:48:15,643 --> 00:48:21,023 Take a load off, Fanny Take a load for free 871 00:48:21,232 --> 00:48:22,691 We discovered a whole 872 00:48:23,025 --> 00:48:25,778 vocal thing that we weren't aware that we even had. 873 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:28,572 And... and... and... 874 00:48:28,697 --> 00:48:31,325 You put the load Right on me 875 00:48:36,038 --> 00:48:37,748 I remember listening to playbacks 876 00:48:37,915 --> 00:48:40,709 after the sessions of songs and thinking, 877 00:48:41,293 --> 00:48:43,462 "I really like this stuff. 878 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:47,007 And... I don't have anything to compare it to, 879 00:48:47,133 --> 00:48:49,802 but I really like it, and I hope everybody else does 880 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:51,804 'cause I really think this is strong. " 881 00:48:52,263 --> 00:48:56,809 I said, "Hey, Carmen Come on, let's go downtown" 882 00:48:58,561 --> 00:49:03,149 She said, "I gotta go, but my Friend can stick around" 883 00:49:04,984 --> 00:49:07,319 Take a load off, Fanny 884 00:49:08,404 --> 00:49:10,656 Take a load for free 885 00:49:11,532 --> 00:49:13,909 Take a load off, Fanny 886 00:49:15,494 --> 00:49:18,205 And... and... and... 887 00:49:18,289 --> 00:49:21,292 You put the load Right on me 888 00:49:26,547 --> 00:49:29,049 I was very excited 889 00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:31,719 playing this record for Bob. 890 00:49:32,011 --> 00:49:34,513 He hadn‘t heard a note of it. 891 00:49:34,972 --> 00:49:36,474 "The Weight" comes on. 892 00:49:36,724 --> 00:49:38,851 He's like, "Wait a minute. Who wrote that?" 893 00:49:38,934 --> 00:49:40,853 And I said, "I... I wrote that. " 894 00:49:40,936 --> 00:49:44,607 He said, "You wrote that?" And I could just see 895 00:49:44,690 --> 00:49:47,318 the pride in his eyes. 896 00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:49,987 He said "Do me a favor, son, 897 00:49:50,237 --> 00:49:53,407 Won't you stay And keep Anna Lee company?" 898 00:49:54,325 --> 00:49:56,494 Take a load off, Fanny 899 00:49:57,411 --> 00:49:59,663 Take a load for free 900 00:50:00,915 --> 00:50:03,375 Take a load off, Fanny 901 00:50:04,793 --> 00:50:06,545 And... and... and... 902 00:50:06,921 --> 00:50:08,339 You put the load 903 00:50:08,422 --> 00:50:10,841 Right on me 904 00:50:11,342 --> 00:50:13,052 I think I was in a little coffee shop 905 00:50:13,219 --> 00:50:16,180 in Redbank, New Jersey. Kid came in 906 00:50:16,347 --> 00:50:19,308 with Music From Big Pink and put it on the sound system. 907 00:50:19,391 --> 00:50:20,935 It was late at night, after... 908 00:50:21,143 --> 00:50:23,187 after the place was about to close down, 909 00:50:23,437 --> 00:50:25,064 which was a fantastic moment 910 00:50:25,147 --> 00:50:27,858 to be introduced to that music, you know? 911 00:50:27,942 --> 00:50:30,778 And suddenly this music comes on and everything changes. 912 00:50:30,861 --> 00:50:33,781 Fought for the party To kingdom come 913 00:50:33,989 --> 00:50:36,617 Sadly told his only son 914 00:50:36,992 --> 00:50:39,495 Just be careful what you do 915 00:50:39,578 --> 00:50:41,539 It all comes back on you 916 00:50:42,289 --> 00:50:44,250 When I heard Big Pink, it was as if someone 917 00:50:44,333 --> 00:50:46,710 had like, nailed me through the chest to the wall. 918 00:50:46,919 --> 00:50:49,630 I was just immediately converted. 919 00:50:50,047 --> 00:50:53,259 That was when Cream was in its sort of, uh, mid-stage 920 00:50:53,509 --> 00:50:56,220 and pretty much severed my connection with the other two 921 00:50:56,303 --> 00:50:59,557 in the band. And I thought, "This is what I wanna do." 922 00:50:59,723 --> 00:51:02,226 - It changed my life. - They weren‘t 923 00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:04,520 reading out of the modern book of music. 924 00:51:04,603 --> 00:51:06,355 They went to the source. 925 00:51:06,647 --> 00:51:08,816 You'd say in the Caribbean, "They was musical 926 00:51:08,899 --> 00:51:10,859 to the core, to the bone“. 927 00:51:11,193 --> 00:51:13,988 If there was any American musicians 928 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,366 that were comparable to what The Beatles were, 929 00:51:18,033 --> 00:51:21,036 - It would've been them. - We've been sitting here 930 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,457 For so dam long, waiting for The end to come along 931 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:27,960 Holy master on the brink 932 00:51:28,168 --> 00:51:30,754 I'd take a choice Swim or sink 933 00:51:32,631 --> 00:51:34,008 This is the middle 934 00:51:34,133 --> 00:51:35,801 of psychedelic era 935 00:51:35,884 --> 00:51:38,137 in popular music, so something comes along 936 00:51:38,220 --> 00:51:41,390 that is the antithesis of where music had been moving. 937 00:51:41,473 --> 00:51:43,642 Here come all these voices that sound 938 00:51:43,809 --> 00:51:45,603 like you've never heard them before, 939 00:51:45,811 --> 00:51:48,731 and like they've always been there, forever and ever. 940 00:51:49,023 --> 00:51:53,027 Oh, to be home again 941 00:51:53,611 --> 00:51:56,447 Down in old Virginia: 942 00:51:56,864 --> 00:52:00,492 With my very best friend 943 00:52:00,701 --> 00:52:03,579 They call him Ragtime Willie 944 00:52:03,787 --> 00:52:07,583 We're gonna soothe away The rest of our years 945 00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:11,795 We're gonna put away All of our tears 946 00:52:12,004 --> 00:52:16,759 That big rockin' chair Won't go nowhere 947 00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:20,471 It was very clear the moment I met them 948 00:52:20,596 --> 00:52:22,348 who they were and what they were about. 949 00:52:22,556 --> 00:52:23,599 They were very grounded. 950 00:52:23,682 --> 00:52:26,352 They were very strong. They were very secure. 951 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,854 They were gracious, like country people 952 00:52:28,937 --> 00:52:30,689 are gracious, and they were totally in love 953 00:52:30,856 --> 00:52:33,067 with their music, and they were in love with each other. 954 00:52:33,609 --> 00:52:36,362 I never saw any jealousy, I never saw any arguments, 955 00:52:36,445 --> 00:52:38,656 I never saw them disagree. It was always 956 00:52:38,781 --> 00:52:41,408 supporting each other. They were five brothers, 957 00:52:41,492 --> 00:52:43,577 very clearly five brothers who loved each other, 958 00:52:43,661 --> 00:52:47,331 and I never saw anything but that. In the'60s, 959 00:52:47,581 --> 00:52:49,041 part of the rebellion 960 00:52:49,375 --> 00:52:52,544 was rejecting one's elders, rejecting one's parents. 961 00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:55,881 The guys in The Band wanted to say, 962 00:52:55,964 --> 00:52:58,509 ”Hey, that‘s not right. We love our parents. 963 00:52:58,634 --> 00:53:01,595 "They worked very hard to bring us up 964 00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:03,514 and care for us. "And so 965 00:53:03,806 --> 00:53:07,351 they wanted to have a picture of their families in the album. 966 00:53:07,434 --> 00:53:11,647 Would've been nice Just to see the folks 967 00:53:11,730 --> 00:53:15,818 Listen once again To the stale old jokes 968 00:53:15,901 --> 00:53:20,155 That big rockin' chair Won't go nowhere 969 00:53:24,368 --> 00:53:26,286 It was a magical time 970 00:53:26,370 --> 00:53:27,955 within this group. 971 00:53:28,455 --> 00:53:29,873 We‘re getting somewhere. 972 00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:37,756 They made Big Pink and then Robbie said, "We wanna go out 973 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,344 on the road. " But then Rick drove his car into a ditch... 974 00:53:44,471 --> 00:53:45,764 ...and brake his neck. 975 00:53:47,850 --> 00:53:50,853 It was a terrible car accident. 976 00:53:51,270 --> 00:53:54,398 Rick was found wandering in the woods, 977 00:53:54,565 --> 00:53:57,109 which is pretty extraordinary for someone who has 978 00:53:57,192 --> 00:54:00,237 just broken his neck. He was 979 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,407 taken to the hospital and put in traction for 980 00:54:03,699 --> 00:54:05,743 the longest time. We were all 981 00:54:05,826 --> 00:54:08,120 quite scared as to whether he would recover. 982 00:54:09,204 --> 00:54:11,290 We're canceling everything. 983 00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:13,834 Everything just stopped. 984 00:54:14,626 --> 00:54:17,713 Music from Big Pink becomes this thing, 985 00:54:17,963 --> 00:54:20,466 and we don‘t show up. We never play a concert. 986 00:54:20,924 --> 00:54:22,885 They're like, "Who are these guys?“ 987 00:54:25,012 --> 00:54:28,891 We were becoming the most mysterious people 988 00:54:29,057 --> 00:54:30,893 in the music business. 989 00:54:32,394 --> 00:54:34,605 After we recorded Big Pink, 990 00:54:34,688 --> 00:54:36,482 there is that thing of like, 991 00:54:36,565 --> 00:54:40,068 "Whoa, what do we do now? Can we follow that up?" 992 00:54:42,279 --> 00:54:45,407 I was working day and night on musical ideas. 993 00:54:45,949 --> 00:54:48,786 Rick got out of the hospital, and then 994 00:54:48,869 --> 00:54:50,996 boom, we were back in the studio. 995 00:54:51,497 --> 00:54:54,124 Rag Mama rag 996 00:54:54,208 --> 00:54:56,919 I can‘t believe it's true 997 00:54:57,002 --> 00:54:59,129 Rag Mama rag 998 00:54:59,421 --> 00:55:01,465 You hear timeless songwriting, 999 00:55:01,715 --> 00:55:03,884 painting pictures and telling stories, 1000 00:55:04,510 --> 00:55:05,886 a cohesion 1001 00:55:05,969 --> 00:55:08,096 which is greater than the sum of the parts. 1002 00:55:08,889 --> 00:55:10,933 They were the very first band 1003 00:55:11,016 --> 00:55:12,935 who got it together in a country house, 1004 00:55:13,143 --> 00:55:14,853 which became a big thing. 1005 00:55:15,229 --> 00:55:17,397 When you shut out the rest of the world 1006 00:55:17,481 --> 00:55:20,025 and the city, and just concentrate on... 1007 00:55:20,108 --> 00:55:23,237 music-making and performing and each other, 1008 00:55:23,862 --> 00:55:25,906 you get a different sort of result. 1009 00:55:27,366 --> 00:55:31,453 Up on Cripple Creek She sends me 1010 00:55:31,787 --> 00:55:34,790 Taking some of that roots music, 1011 00:55:34,873 --> 00:55:38,460 a little bit of Muddy Waters, a little bit of Hank Williams, 1012 00:55:38,794 --> 00:55:41,255 no long guitar solos, it was 1013 00:55:41,421 --> 00:55:43,173 just simple, straightforward music. 1014 00:55:43,340 --> 00:55:45,759 Nowadays we call it Americana. 1015 00:55:50,556 --> 00:55:51,807 I was in Boston. 1016 00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:53,100 I was sleeping on a coach, 1017 00:55:53,225 --> 00:55:54,935 and it was "I Shall Be Released" 1018 00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:56,645 was what came on. 1019 00:55:57,145 --> 00:55:59,398 I thought, "Oh yeah, there's... there‘s something. I'm 1020 00:55:59,773 --> 00:56:01,859 connecting with something here." That's what I thought. 1021 00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:05,487 I got an impression there was a lot of mythology going on. 1022 00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:10,534 Standin' by your window In pain 1023 00:56:11,869 --> 00:56:14,037 A pistol in your hand 1024 00:56:14,121 --> 00:56:16,123 You‘d never really heard a sound like that. 1025 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,084 It also it reminded me greatly 1026 00:56:19,167 --> 00:56:21,753 of 19th Century literature, American literature. 1027 00:56:21,962 --> 00:56:25,674 Try and understand your man The best you can 1028 00:56:26,425 --> 00:56:29,177 Across the great divide 1029 00:56:29,636 --> 00:56:31,847 Just grab your hat 1030 00:56:31,930 --> 00:56:34,558 And take that ride 1031 00:56:34,808 --> 00:56:37,436 Particularly Melville. There's something 1032 00:56:37,519 --> 00:56:40,147 about the Melville stories, and the sense of... 1033 00:56:40,355 --> 00:56:43,483 searching The Band brings to mind for me. 1034 00:56:43,650 --> 00:56:46,403 Each song is like a little John Steinbeck novel. 1035 00:56:46,778 --> 00:56:47,738 Steinbeck also 1036 00:56:47,821 --> 00:56:49,406 gives you these images of America, 1037 00:56:49,489 --> 00:56:51,116 of dustbowl America. 1038 00:56:54,661 --> 00:56:58,790 Unfaithful servant 1039 00:56:59,082 --> 00:57:00,334 I hear you 1040 00:57:00,417 --> 00:57:01,668 I spent quite a bit of time 1041 00:57:01,752 --> 00:57:04,713 with The Band, and one of the things that Robbie said to me 1042 00:57:04,796 --> 00:57:06,924 was the fact that when he wrote a tune, he had 1043 00:57:07,007 --> 00:57:09,009 all these different singers who could sing the song. 1044 00:57:09,176 --> 00:57:12,346 And he could write lyrics, like, to write a song 1045 00:57:12,429 --> 00:57:14,514 knowing that Levon was gonna sing it. 1046 00:57:14,598 --> 00:57:17,059 You know, you could be... you could write much different 1047 00:57:17,142 --> 00:57:19,019 to knowing if you were gonna have to do it yourself. 1048 00:57:19,186 --> 00:57:23,106 Did you do it Just for the glory? 1049 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:25,275 When they came together; something happened 1050 00:57:25,692 --> 00:57:28,487 that could not have occurred on their own 1051 00:57:28,654 --> 00:57:30,489 or individually. You know, something... 1052 00:57:31,365 --> 00:57:32,783 miraculous occurred. 1053 00:57:34,117 --> 00:57:36,328 She really cared 1054 00:57:36,411 --> 00:57:38,538 The time she spared 1055 00:57:43,835 --> 00:57:46,672 We were booked to play our first job 1056 00:57:46,755 --> 00:57:50,467 as The Band at Winterland, in San Francisco, 1057 00:57:50,676 --> 00:57:52,511 with Bill Graham presenting. 1058 00:57:54,179 --> 00:57:56,223 We went up to San Francisco, like, 1059 00:57:56,306 --> 00:57:58,600 two days early. Robbie is 1060 00:57:58,684 --> 00:58:00,435 sick as a dog. 1061 00:58:01,103 --> 00:58:04,856 I‘m completely drained 1062 00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:08,819 and it hits me: the last time we played together; 1063 00:58:08,986 --> 00:58:12,072 everybody booed us everywhere we go, right? 1064 00:58:12,322 --> 00:58:15,784 Am I having some kind of stage fright thing? 1065 00:58:16,743 --> 00:58:19,746 He's got a fever of 103. 1066 00:58:19,830 --> 00:58:23,041 I'm saying to Bill Graham, "We've gotta cancel. I'm sorry." 1067 00:58:23,583 --> 00:58:26,753 Bill Graham says, "Impossible. There is 1068 00:58:26,837 --> 00:58:29,589 no way in the world that we can cancel this." 1069 00:58:30,257 --> 00:58:32,300 And finally Bill says, 1070 00:58:32,384 --> 00:58:35,345 "What do you think about the idea 1071 00:58:35,470 --> 00:58:37,848 of us bringing in a hypnotist?" 1072 00:58:41,018 --> 00:58:43,854 A little guy, about 5'8", 1073 00:58:43,979 --> 00:58:46,690 black suit, white carnation, shows up, 1074 00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:48,650 and he puts him under. 1075 00:58:50,152 --> 00:58:53,196 And he's saying, "Your stomach will feel 1076 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,032 as calm as a lake. 1077 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,702 Your head feels as cool as a winter breeze. " 1078 00:59:00,662 --> 00:59:03,331 The next thing I know, my head doesn't feel 1079 00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:06,334 so bad. And I'm thinking, 1080 00:59:06,418 --> 00:59:09,254 ”I'll be damned, I‘m actually feeling 1081 00:59:09,504 --> 00:59:13,258 stronger and better than I was before. " 1082 00:59:14,051 --> 00:59:14,968 He says, 1083 00:59:15,052 --> 00:59:17,888 "Any time you start to feel too weak, 1084 00:59:17,971 --> 00:59:19,723 you look over at me 1085 00:59:20,015 --> 00:59:23,727 and I'm gonna say to you,'Grow."' 1086 00:59:57,094 --> 01:00:01,515 And the crowd is yelling and we're playing. 1087 01:00:01,807 --> 01:00:05,143 And I look over at him and he goes, 1088 01:00:05,227 --> 01:00:06,144 "Grow." 1089 01:00:07,854 --> 01:00:10,857 This guy had to be onstage with Robbie. 1090 01:00:10,941 --> 01:00:13,652 This was the first concert I'd ever experienced with them, 1091 01:00:13,944 --> 01:00:15,570 so... what did I know? But I did, 1092 01:00:15,654 --> 01:00:17,989 I know that usually there's not a hypnotist onstage. 1093 01:00:18,907 --> 01:00:21,201 Any scarlet would back her 1094 01:00:21,326 --> 01:00:24,704 Everybody got their own starring moment. 1095 01:00:25,163 --> 01:00:26,581 Rick had his songs. 1096 01:00:26,832 --> 01:00:29,000 Garth got to do "Chest Fever, " 1097 01:00:29,292 --> 01:00:31,128 and Richard was brilliant. 1098 01:00:31,378 --> 01:00:33,672 So in those first year and a half, 1099 01:00:33,755 --> 01:00:37,217 - it was amazing. - Can‘t be here no more 1100 01:00:38,301 --> 01:00:42,305 And as my mind unweaves 1101 01:00:42,597 --> 01:00:45,892 I feel the freeze Down in my knees 1102 01:00:47,686 --> 01:00:51,898 But just before she leaves 1103 01:00:52,190 --> 01:00:54,442 She receives 1104 01:00:57,779 --> 01:00:59,739 Well, when we first went out on tour, 1105 01:00:59,823 --> 01:01:01,908 they were famous because of their relationship 1106 01:01:01,992 --> 01:01:05,245 with Bob Dylan, but here they were now as themselves. 1107 01:01:05,453 --> 01:01:09,374 This was The Band. That brought about a fame 1108 01:01:09,457 --> 01:01:11,501 to them that they had never had before. 1109 01:01:11,877 --> 01:01:14,296 Folks, The Band. 1110 01:01:33,648 --> 01:01:36,943 Slippin' and slidin' Peekin' and hidin' 1111 01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:39,529 Been told along time ago 1112 01:01:40,071 --> 01:01:42,324 And I got the chance to go and meet Robbie. 1113 01:01:42,782 --> 01:01:44,951 And I went up to Woodstock to hang with him. 1114 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,996 And the reason I went up there was to pluck up the nerve 1115 01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:50,081 to ask him if I could join The Band. 1116 01:01:50,165 --> 01:01:52,626 Maybe they needed a rhythm guitar player! 1117 01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:02,427 And I was wearing pink boots 1118 01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:04,512 and I had curly hair, 1119 01:02:04,596 --> 01:02:06,139 just psychedelic. And they were 1120 01:02:06,306 --> 01:02:07,849 kinda really earthy. 1121 01:02:08,683 --> 01:02:10,477 And I was saying, "Well, let's jam. " 1122 01:02:10,644 --> 01:02:11,895 And he said, "We don't jam.“ 1123 01:02:12,103 --> 01:02:13,897 So it was a songwriting outfit. 1124 01:02:15,732 --> 01:02:18,109 I work for the union 1125 01:02:18,318 --> 01:02:20,028 Robbie's listening to the way 1126 01:02:20,153 --> 01:02:22,030 that each of them play, but the way they worked 1127 01:02:22,113 --> 01:02:23,990 as a unit was, like, incredible. 1128 01:02:24,115 --> 01:02:25,909 Rick was pretty dynamic, 1129 01:02:25,992 --> 01:02:27,786 and he was a very powerful energy. 1130 01:02:27,911 --> 01:02:29,454 Garth was shy, 1131 01:02:29,621 --> 01:02:31,915 and I fell in love with Richard. 1132 01:02:32,082 --> 01:02:35,377 He was the most mournful, soulful thing I'd ever heard. 1133 01:02:35,710 --> 01:02:38,588 Last year this time Wasn‘t no joke 1134 01:02:40,298 --> 01:02:43,426 My whole barn Went up in smoke 1135 01:02:45,011 --> 01:02:46,763 And our horse, Jethro 1136 01:02:46,846 --> 01:02:48,306 He went mad 1137 01:02:49,182 --> 01:02:51,017 And I can't ever remember 1138 01:02:51,101 --> 01:02:53,186 Things being that bad 1139 01:02:54,688 --> 01:02:57,232 God, Richard was 1140 01:02:57,315 --> 01:02:58,942 such a sensitive man. 1141 01:02:59,651 --> 01:03:01,486 Like a wounded bird. 1142 01:03:02,028 --> 01:03:04,823 But a beautiful, beautiful soul. 1143 01:03:05,824 --> 01:03:07,367 He was very fragile, 1144 01:03:07,492 --> 01:03:09,244 and we liked to drink together: 1145 01:03:09,619 --> 01:03:12,789 When you put us together, there was an instant bond. 1146 01:03:13,415 --> 01:03:16,001 Robbie, in a way, was kind of outside of that 1147 01:03:16,084 --> 01:03:18,295 because I saw Robbie as the straight guy. 1148 01:03:18,378 --> 01:03:20,922 He was a guy who we could drink with, 1149 01:03:21,006 --> 01:03:23,633 but at some point, he would lose interest in that, 1150 01:03:23,717 --> 01:03:26,052 you know, whereas me and Richard were the kind of people 1151 01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:27,762 that we would like to drink together, 1152 01:03:27,846 --> 01:03:30,724 but we'd drink... we‘d like drinking even more on our own. 1153 01:03:34,102 --> 01:03:36,021 Just when The Band was really hitting, 1154 01:03:36,187 --> 01:03:40,400 the difference between Robbie and the rest of the band was 1155 01:03:40,608 --> 01:03:44,154 his family was incredibly important to him. 1156 01:03:44,237 --> 01:03:45,905 He already had a baby. 1157 01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:49,200 Dominique was this incredibly vital, 1158 01:03:49,284 --> 01:03:52,037 smart woman that he liked hanging with. 1159 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,874 She was incredibly beautiful. And the rest of the guys 1160 01:03:55,957 --> 01:03:59,711 were still trying to figure out did they want a family or not? 1161 01:03:59,836 --> 01:04:02,630 And they were consuming a lot of drugs, 1162 01:04:03,089 --> 01:04:04,424 playing a lot, 1163 01:04:04,507 --> 01:04:06,968 drinking too much, you know, everything else. 1164 01:04:08,178 --> 01:04:10,180 In Woodstock, it was... 1165 01:04:10,388 --> 01:04:14,184 at one point, car accidents. And the phone ringing 1166 01:04:14,267 --> 01:04:16,519 in the middle of the night to say this one or that one 1167 01:04:16,603 --> 01:04:19,898 had totaled the car or was in the ditch. 1168 01:04:22,359 --> 01:04:24,444 Rick, he was lucky, you know, 1169 01:04:24,527 --> 01:04:26,654 but it became far too 1170 01:04:26,863 --> 01:04:30,075 often that there were situations like that. 1171 01:04:32,202 --> 01:04:34,412 I had this Mustang 1172 01:04:34,954 --> 01:04:36,581 that Robbie had bought, 1173 01:04:37,332 --> 01:04:39,459 and Richard wanted to drive it. 1174 01:04:40,126 --> 01:04:42,379 I said, ”Really, can you do it?" 1175 01:04:42,462 --> 01:04:46,132 And he said, "Well, I sober up behind the wheel. " 1176 01:04:48,468 --> 01:04:50,762 And I said, "Please, don't go so fast, 1177 01:04:50,845 --> 01:04:52,639 you know, can you see? Can you see?" 1178 01:04:52,722 --> 01:04:55,225 And he said, "Oh, I can see like a lynx. " 1179 01:04:58,186 --> 01:05:00,939 You know, and I was naive, frankly. 1180 01:05:01,189 --> 01:05:03,358 We hit this curve, 1181 01:05:03,483 --> 01:05:05,443 and it was like every... 1182 01:05:05,527 --> 01:05:08,154 hit every cement pole in the curve. 1183 01:05:10,365 --> 01:05:11,825 We ended up in the ditch. 1184 01:05:13,493 --> 01:05:15,286 Then Richard lit a match. 1185 01:05:17,205 --> 01:05:19,374 And I thought, "You're gonna blow the car. 1186 01:05:19,499 --> 01:05:22,127 We have to get out." Push. "Get out. Get out." 1187 01:05:25,213 --> 01:05:27,132 We were at Big Pink and somebody 1188 01:05:27,215 --> 01:05:29,175 came rushing up and said... 1189 01:05:29,467 --> 01:05:32,137 "Richard's just had an accident and he's crashed a new car." 1190 01:05:32,637 --> 01:05:35,598 Levon you know, jumps into his Corvette 1191 01:05:36,057 --> 01:05:37,767 and rushes to the scene, 1192 01:05:37,892 --> 01:05:40,395 and accidentally crashes into the police car. 1193 01:05:43,064 --> 01:05:45,900 The cop threw Levon on the back of a car. 1194 01:05:46,025 --> 01:05:48,778 I think they handcuffed him. I don't know how long 1195 01:05:48,862 --> 01:05:53,074 it took me, you know, to really absorb the shock. 1196 01:05:56,119 --> 01:05:58,830 Richard could‘ve killed Dominique. 1197 01:05:59,664 --> 01:06:00,915 What do you say? 1198 01:06:01,124 --> 01:06:02,417 It pissed me off. 1199 01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:06,796 But it was something that we weren‘t educated in 1200 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,091 at the time, of dealing with alcoholism. 1201 01:06:10,550 --> 01:06:13,553 And all the things that you think you should do 1202 01:06:13,803 --> 01:06:17,765 is mostly the things that you should absolutely not do. 1203 01:06:17,849 --> 01:06:20,935 My biggest mistake was Loving you too much 1204 01:06:21,352 --> 01:06:23,188 And letting you know 1205 01:06:24,272 --> 01:06:26,733 Now you've got me Where you want me 1206 01:06:26,816 --> 01:06:28,485 And you won't let me go 1207 01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:31,196 If my heart was Made of glass 1208 01:06:32,572 --> 01:06:34,407 Well, then you‘d surer see 1209 01:06:34,491 --> 01:06:36,409 And after that, there was a whole period 1210 01:06:36,493 --> 01:06:38,495 where he didn‘t hardly drink at all. 1211 01:06:38,828 --> 01:06:41,331 So we were holding it at bay. 1212 01:07:16,115 --> 01:07:20,495 By this point, there was an experimenting going on 1213 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,623 that led to heroin. 1214 01:07:23,748 --> 01:07:27,627 And I was confused that the guys wanted 1215 01:07:27,835 --> 01:07:30,088 to play with that fire. 1216 01:07:31,631 --> 01:07:34,425 That was devastating. Nobody had 1217 01:07:34,509 --> 01:07:37,470 any understanding of addiction, 1218 01:07:37,554 --> 01:07:41,474 that it's a mental disorder. And at the time, 1219 01:07:41,558 --> 01:07:43,476 it felt very much like a betrayal. 1220 01:07:44,727 --> 01:07:46,604 Robbie might‘ve used, 1221 01:07:46,771 --> 01:07:49,816 he might've drank, he might've tried different things, 1222 01:07:49,899 --> 01:07:52,110 but he did not have that gene 1223 01:07:52,277 --> 01:07:55,655 that would cause him to become an addict. 1224 01:07:57,991 --> 01:07:59,075 He had a vision, 1225 01:07:59,158 --> 01:08:00,868 and nothing was gonna get in the way 1226 01:08:00,952 --> 01:08:02,161 of the vision. 1227 01:08:03,329 --> 01:08:07,458 If you think about the summer of 1969 into 1970, 1228 01:08:07,667 --> 01:08:10,295 Music from Big Pink, I think Robbie wrote 1229 01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:14,340 less than half the songs. By the Brown Album, 1230 01:08:14,424 --> 01:08:16,634 he wrote maybe two thirds of the songs. 1231 01:08:16,801 --> 01:08:20,013 By Stage Fright, he was writing all of the songs. 1232 01:08:20,471 --> 01:08:23,057 And it wasn‘t that he wanted to do that. 1233 01:08:23,474 --> 01:08:25,560 Robbie would start writing, like, 1234 01:08:25,810 --> 01:08:28,896 at ten in the morning. And to be honest, 1235 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,899 Levon, and Rick, and Richard, were still asleep. 1236 01:08:32,817 --> 01:08:35,069 I loved writing with Richard. 1237 01:08:35,695 --> 01:08:38,615 Richard had a beautiful, melody ear, 1238 01:08:38,823 --> 01:08:41,242 and he would come up with chord changes 1239 01:08:41,409 --> 01:08:42,660 I would never find, 1240 01:08:42,910 --> 01:08:48,416 but somehow it just wasn't happening for him, 1241 01:08:48,625 --> 01:08:53,046 and if I pushed too hard, it made him feel bad. 1242 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,923 With Richard, it was really poignant. 1243 01:08:56,466 --> 01:08:58,426 I very clearly remember Robbie 1244 01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:01,429 pleading with Richard, asking him, do you have anything? 1245 01:09:01,638 --> 01:09:04,557 Anything to add to the song? Richard just didn‘t have it. 1246 01:09:04,641 --> 01:09:06,309 He didn't have anything to offer. 1247 01:09:07,727 --> 01:09:10,480 It was up to Robbie and Garth, primarily, 1248 01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:13,733 to keep driving the basic creative force, 1249 01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:18,029 and hoping that their friends would keep on. 1250 01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:21,240 During the recording of Stage Fright, 1251 01:09:21,407 --> 01:09:23,117 heroin was being used. 1252 01:09:23,534 --> 01:09:25,953 It had an effect on their energy, their ability 1253 01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,374 to be present. Levon would sometimes be 1254 01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:32,293 nodded out upstairs, and it was a little sad, you know, 1255 01:09:32,377 --> 01:09:34,962 because he would come down, and you could still see a look 1256 01:09:35,046 --> 01:09:37,256 in his eye that was a little strange, 1257 01:09:37,382 --> 01:09:38,841 and it was-- it was difficult. 1258 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,971 This is very different from the very energetic Levon 1259 01:09:44,055 --> 01:09:46,808 that I used to know, who was always very wiry, 1260 01:09:46,891 --> 01:09:48,685 always up for action, 1261 01:09:48,810 --> 01:09:51,020 up for going after it, whatever it may be, 1262 01:09:52,397 --> 01:09:55,817 and now it was like sleepy time. That's not easy to deal with. 1263 01:09:56,901 --> 01:09:59,112 It's hard to connect with somebody 1264 01:09:59,237 --> 01:10:01,823 who's doing that, it's hard to trust, 1265 01:10:01,989 --> 01:10:05,618 it's hard to really keep a friendship going. 1266 01:10:05,743 --> 01:10:09,497 It was beginning to feel like a real fracture. 1267 01:10:10,998 --> 01:10:13,084 One day I said to Levon, 1268 01:10:13,251 --> 01:10:16,045 "I can see what's going on. I know you. " 1269 01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:20,299 And he was doing the junkie denial 1270 01:10:20,425 --> 01:10:23,845 and explaining and making excuses 1271 01:10:24,011 --> 01:10:27,098 and laughing and slapping me on the back, 1272 01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:30,685 and I'd never had this kind of an encounter with him before. 1273 01:10:32,979 --> 01:10:36,023 We don‘t do that. We don‘t lie to one another. 1274 01:10:38,693 --> 01:10:41,112 I still loved him, 1275 01:10:41,279 --> 01:10:45,199 but something got broken in that. 1276 01:10:45,283 --> 01:10:46,784 And it was like glass, 1277 01:10:47,577 --> 01:10:50,163 it was hard to put back together again. 1278 01:10:51,998 --> 01:10:54,125 It was not just an exasperation, 1279 01:10:54,208 --> 01:10:57,712 it was a feeling that Robbie could lose everything. 1280 01:10:58,963 --> 01:11:02,216 That brotherhood, that friendship, 1281 01:11:02,300 --> 01:11:05,928 that bond, that love that they had for each other. 1282 01:11:06,012 --> 01:11:07,346 They were terrific guys, 1283 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,099 I loved them myself, all of them, 1284 01:11:10,183 --> 01:11:13,019 but when you begin to function out of fear 1285 01:11:13,102 --> 01:11:16,022 of losing something, it's maddening. 1286 01:11:16,689 --> 01:11:19,901 I think I wanted something that I couldn‘t have, 1287 01:11:19,984 --> 01:11:23,029 which was normalcy and a regular schedule. 1288 01:11:23,237 --> 01:11:28,117 After the children were born, my focus changed entirely. 1289 01:11:29,702 --> 01:11:31,746 Climb up your ladder now 1290 01:11:34,332 --> 01:11:36,751 It's time for you 1291 01:11:36,959 --> 01:11:38,878 To dream away 1292 01:11:41,422 --> 01:11:44,926 For what a big day You've been through 1293 01:11:46,177 --> 01:11:50,431 Our children were elevating my life, 1294 01:11:50,515 --> 01:11:52,475 they were making everything 1295 01:11:52,558 --> 01:11:55,770 have a beautiful aura around it, 1296 01:11:55,895 --> 01:11:58,314 except when I had to go to work, 1297 01:11:58,731 --> 01:12:03,903 and then this darkness, this cloud came back overhead. 1298 01:12:04,612 --> 01:12:07,406 My family was my saving grace. 1299 01:12:08,074 --> 01:12:12,203 And keep the little one Safe and warm 1300 01:12:14,247 --> 01:12:17,708 'Cause to her It's just a fantasy 1301 01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:23,798 And to me It’s all a mystery 1302 01:12:24,006 --> 01:12:25,550 l had to go 1303 01:12:25,716 --> 01:12:28,135 from Woodstock out to Los Angeles, 1304 01:12:28,302 --> 01:12:31,931 and while I was out there, I got a message 1305 01:12:32,098 --> 01:12:35,601 that this guy who had a record company 1306 01:12:35,726 --> 01:12:39,897 wanted to meet with me, and his name was David Geffen. 1307 01:12:48,739 --> 01:12:51,742 The way I see it, he said 1308 01:12:51,826 --> 01:12:54,328 You just can't win it 1309 01:12:54,829 --> 01:12:56,789 in every band, there is someone 1310 01:12:56,873 --> 01:12:58,958 who ends up being the leader one way or the other. 1311 01:12:59,041 --> 01:13:00,960 Usually, the star is the lead singer. 1312 01:13:01,252 --> 01:13:02,336 In The Band, it wasn't. 1313 01:13:03,087 --> 01:13:05,423 Robbie's a star. You put him in any group, 1314 01:13:05,548 --> 01:13:07,425 Robbie'Il start talking, and telling stories, 1315 01:13:07,508 --> 01:13:09,927 and performing, and he's a star. 1316 01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:15,099 David Geffen was a manager, a record executive. 1317 01:13:15,683 --> 01:13:19,687 He thought if he could get Bob Dylan to his record company, 1318 01:13:19,770 --> 01:13:23,691 that would cement him as the king of the music business. 1319 01:13:24,275 --> 01:13:27,612 David saw Robbie as a way to make that happen. 1320 01:13:28,404 --> 01:13:31,032 He started romancing Robbie. 1321 01:13:33,117 --> 01:13:36,454 David was incredibly candid, 1322 01:13:36,579 --> 01:13:38,789 incredibly straightforward, 1323 01:13:39,206 --> 01:13:41,375 and back in Woodstock, in the world 1324 01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:45,212 of Albert Grossman, and of Bob Dylan, 1325 01:13:45,296 --> 01:13:47,548 a lot was left unsaid. 1326 01:13:48,382 --> 01:13:51,010 There was something about meeting with David 1327 01:13:51,093 --> 01:13:52,470 that was so open. 1328 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:54,430 David I remember saying to Robbie, 1329 01:13:54,555 --> 01:13:57,892 of all the places you could live, why pick Woodstock? 1330 01:13:57,975 --> 01:13:59,894 Because Albert Grossman lives here? 1331 01:14:00,478 --> 01:14:02,688 I thought it was a shithole, I mean, I hated it. 1332 01:14:03,397 --> 01:14:06,108 I suggested to Robbie that he move to Malibu. 1333 01:14:06,692 --> 01:14:09,487 I was a free man in Paris 1334 01:14:09,737 --> 01:14:12,114 I felt unfettered and alive 1335 01:14:12,323 --> 01:14:15,660 There was nobody Calling me up for favors 1336 01:14:15,743 --> 01:14:18,037 And no one's future To decide 1337 01:14:18,496 --> 01:14:22,333 If you could imagine, that move to Malibu, sight unseen, 1338 01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:24,710 it was another Twilight Zone experiment. 1339 01:14:25,086 --> 01:14:26,212 You know? For me. 1340 01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:31,217 - I guess for all of us. - Robbie loved it. 1341 01:14:42,353 --> 01:14:44,981 It did feel like something fresh. 1342 01:14:45,272 --> 01:14:47,108 He wake up every morning at the ocean, 1343 01:14:47,525 --> 01:14:48,609 his kids loved it, 1344 01:14:48,776 --> 01:14:51,988 his wife loved it. You know, I remember Robbie saying to me, 1345 01:14:52,071 --> 01:14:54,490 what the fuck was I doing in Woodstock? 1346 01:14:56,242 --> 01:15:00,037 I was like, I'm gonna call the guys, tell'em to come out here. 1347 01:15:11,132 --> 01:15:13,092 I thought it would be very stimulating for Robbie, 1348 01:15:13,300 --> 01:15:15,011 I thought it would be stimulating for The Band, 1349 01:15:15,094 --> 01:15:16,262 and Bob was there. 1350 01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:18,514 Robbie was the one who suggested l meet him. 1351 01:15:19,390 --> 01:15:20,558 The next thing, 1352 01:15:20,683 --> 01:15:23,060 David Geffen is saying, you know, 1353 01:15:23,144 --> 01:15:28,274 it might be a great idea for Bob Dylan and The Band 1354 01:15:28,357 --> 01:15:31,235 to play together again, and do a tour. 1355 01:15:51,797 --> 01:15:54,759 Bob had basically been in hiding in Woodstock 1356 01:15:54,842 --> 01:15:57,303 since the tour of'66. 1357 01:15:57,428 --> 01:16:00,723 David somehow managed to convince Bob 1358 01:16:00,890 --> 01:16:02,433 to come out on the road. 1359 01:16:02,558 --> 01:16:04,101 No one had seen Bob for years. 1360 01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:05,436 It created quite a stir. 1361 01:16:05,895 --> 01:16:07,688 It was what David Geffen wanted, 1362 01:16:07,938 --> 01:16:11,484 but David was just pure, unleashed ambition. 1363 01:16:12,026 --> 01:16:16,363 You're gonna walk That endless highway 1364 01:16:19,909 --> 01:16:22,912 Walk that highway Till you die 1365 01:16:24,413 --> 01:16:26,332 The last time we played together; 1366 01:16:26,540 --> 01:16:30,419 in 1966, it wasn‘t very well received. 1367 01:16:31,504 --> 01:16:34,673 Now we go out, it was embraced 1368 01:16:35,257 --> 01:16:37,384 like the second coming. 1369 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,270 We didn't change a thing; the world changed. 1370 01:16:48,604 --> 01:16:49,897 It was kind of a good feeling. 1371 01:16:50,523 --> 01:16:53,984 Mama, take this badge Off of me 1372 01:16:57,738 --> 01:17:00,449 I can‘t use it anymore 1373 01:17:01,492 --> 01:17:03,786 I had signed The Band 1374 01:17:03,869 --> 01:17:05,746 and Bob Dylan to Asylum Records. 1375 01:17:06,163 --> 01:17:07,832 I had a handshake agreement with them, 1376 01:17:08,082 --> 01:17:09,667 because Bob Dylan said to me, 1377 01:17:09,792 --> 01:17:13,045 "ls my word good for you?“ And I thought, Bob Dylan, 1378 01:17:13,129 --> 01:17:15,464 he wrote "Blowin' in the Wind", "The Times They Are a-Changin . 1379 01:17:15,881 --> 01:17:17,216 Yeah, I‘ll take your word. 1380 01:17:17,424 --> 01:17:20,803 Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door 1381 01:17:23,973 --> 01:17:27,101 Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door 1382 01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:29,687 What I remember very clearly, 1383 01:17:29,770 --> 01:17:34,859 after the tour of'74, they went on tour as The Band, 1384 01:17:35,067 --> 01:17:36,110 and not with Bob Dylan. 1385 01:17:44,076 --> 01:17:47,580 Go out yonder Peace in the valley 1386 01:17:47,788 --> 01:17:51,250 Come downtown Have to rumble in the alley 1387 01:17:51,417 --> 01:17:54,128 Oh, you don‘t know 1388 01:17:54,295 --> 01:17:56,172 The shape I'm in 1389 01:17:59,258 --> 01:18:03,012 After a while touring, it was very noticeable 1390 01:18:03,179 --> 01:18:06,348 that there was change afoot. 1391 01:18:06,515 --> 01:18:10,728 Oh, you don‘t know The shape I'm in 1392 01:18:11,729 --> 01:18:14,857 We played a gig in Cleveland... 1393 01:18:19,737 --> 01:18:22,656 ...Richard had been doing heroin, 1394 01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:24,825 and apparently he lost his stash. 1395 01:18:25,451 --> 01:18:26,827 Sorry about the delay, 1396 01:18:26,911 --> 01:18:28,913 Richard Manuel, the pianist, 1397 01:18:29,121 --> 01:18:32,082 has taken ill, he‘s being taken care of backstage. 1398 01:18:32,166 --> 01:18:34,376 The Band is gonna go on in a few minutes without Richard. 1399 01:18:34,501 --> 01:18:35,794 Hopefully he'll be fine. 1400 01:18:37,671 --> 01:18:39,965 They actually played the concert 1401 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:44,887 as a quartet, without Richard, and it sounded so strange. 1402 01:18:45,346 --> 01:18:48,557 I kept seeing a lot of looks between everybody. 1403 01:18:48,807 --> 01:18:50,976 Obviously very uncomfortable with this. 1404 01:18:52,394 --> 01:18:55,314 Over by the wildwood 1405 01:18:55,773 --> 01:18:57,733 Hot summer night 1406 01:18:58,567 --> 01:19:00,694 These guys were soldiers, 1407 01:19:00,986 --> 01:19:04,073 but Richard Manuel had a disease. 1408 01:19:04,823 --> 01:19:07,326 This band was a real band. 1409 01:19:07,451 --> 01:19:13,457 All those spark plugs needed to be ignited, or it didn't work. 1410 01:19:13,624 --> 01:19:16,585 But a young man Serves his country 1411 01:19:17,419 --> 01:19:20,214 And an old man Guards the home 1412 01:19:20,923 --> 01:19:23,092 At first it was Richard holding everybody back, 1413 01:19:23,217 --> 01:19:24,301 he wasn't able to play, 1414 01:19:24,385 --> 01:19:25,719 and that's why they called me out there, 1415 01:19:25,803 --> 01:19:27,471 to try to scare Richard straight. 1416 01:19:27,846 --> 01:19:28,847 Everybody, all of them 1417 01:19:28,973 --> 01:19:33,686 was good, young, honest, solid guys, all of'em. 1418 01:19:33,894 --> 01:19:37,022 Two or three years later, they were different personalities. 1419 01:19:37,231 --> 01:19:40,693 Don't leave me alone In the twilight 1420 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:44,280 The rhythm section had definitely fallen into 1421 01:19:44,405 --> 01:19:46,740 heavier drugs. And once again, 1422 01:19:46,824 --> 01:19:49,535 it was up to Robbie and Garth, primarily. 1423 01:19:53,831 --> 01:19:56,583 Levon was doing things he'd never done in a million years 1424 01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:58,127 if it hadn‘t been for drugs. 1425 01:20:03,882 --> 01:20:07,386 Levon often complained about our lawyer, 1426 01:20:07,469 --> 01:20:11,974 about our manager, and it was a kind of paranoia. 1427 01:20:12,599 --> 01:20:15,436 I would often say, "Don't worry, 1428 01:20:15,519 --> 01:20:18,564 if anybody is taking advantage of us, 1429 01:20:18,647 --> 01:20:21,317 we are gonna stop that immediately.“ 1430 01:20:22,443 --> 01:20:25,154 But a bitterness set in with him. 1431 01:20:27,114 --> 01:20:29,700 Levon felt something was being taken away, 1432 01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:33,329 you know? But families, man, nobody can feud like a family. 1433 01:20:34,204 --> 01:20:36,707 Families can go to the grave feuding. 1434 01:20:37,833 --> 01:20:38,959 If a person is getting 1435 01:20:39,126 --> 01:20:40,377 a little more attention, 1436 01:20:40,711 --> 01:20:43,839 resentment can set in, you know, and jealousy. 1437 01:20:45,174 --> 01:20:49,553 Robbie kept moving forward, and not everybody could follow. 1438 01:20:54,975 --> 01:20:58,062 This is different now. This is hard. 1439 01:20:58,354 --> 01:21:00,314 This is kinda painful. 1440 01:21:02,232 --> 01:21:04,068 This could be tragic. 1441 01:21:04,693 --> 01:21:07,821 Don't leave me alone 1442 01:21:08,113 --> 01:21:10,240 In the twilight 1443 01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,744 I don't know why we're doing this. 1444 01:21:18,874 --> 01:21:20,250 Robbie told me he just didn‘t wanna 1445 01:21:20,334 --> 01:21:22,586 go on the road with a suitcase full of heroin. 1446 01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:25,756 Robbie was planning the next step in his life. 1447 01:21:26,673 --> 01:21:29,259 I've always had that sense, way back 1448 01:21:29,426 --> 01:21:32,513 from when we cut the first album and we knew we had something, 1449 01:21:33,013 --> 01:21:35,265 and he said he wanted to work with Ingmar Bergman. 1450 01:21:35,557 --> 01:21:37,851 That's not the usual thing that a rock n' roller would say. 1451 01:21:37,935 --> 01:21:39,436 "I wanna work with Ingmar Bergman.“ 1452 01:21:43,690 --> 01:21:47,903 There were many elements that brought this to a head. 1453 01:21:48,612 --> 01:21:51,240 It wasn't only because of drugs, 1454 01:21:51,740 --> 01:21:55,494 after you‘ve been together for 16 years, you think, 1455 01:21:55,577 --> 01:21:57,871 "We need to be able to catch our breath.“ 1456 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,166 I thought, 1457 01:22:01,458 --> 01:22:03,919 "If we could get off the treadmill, 1458 01:22:04,086 --> 01:22:08,132 if we can go and take care of ourselves, 1459 01:22:08,507 --> 01:22:11,218 we might be able to come to our senses. " 1460 01:22:11,718 --> 01:22:13,720 My solution was, 1461 01:22:13,804 --> 01:22:18,016 let's bring it to a culmination in the name of music. 1462 01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:19,977 That's how we fight back on this. 1463 01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:25,607 And we did. 1464 01:22:44,418 --> 01:22:46,712 The concert came together so quickly 1465 01:22:46,879 --> 01:22:48,088 it was almost shocking. 1466 01:22:48,172 --> 01:22:51,717 I think we started planning a month before we did it. 1467 01:22:51,925 --> 01:22:55,220 Now deep in the heart Of a lonely kid 1468 01:22:56,013 --> 01:22:58,891 Who suffered so much For what he did 1469 01:23:00,058 --> 01:23:03,479 They gave this poor boy His fortune and fame 1470 01:23:04,146 --> 01:23:07,274 Since that day He ain't been the same 1471 01:23:08,859 --> 01:23:11,403 We decided to do it with our friends. 1472 01:23:12,946 --> 01:23:15,449 And that‘s why we felt comfortable 1473 01:23:15,616 --> 01:23:19,536 with the idea of doing "The Last Waltz". 1474 01:23:21,079 --> 01:23:22,706 But when we get to the end 1475 01:23:23,373 --> 01:23:25,209 He wants to start All over again 1476 01:23:27,169 --> 01:23:29,296 Just let him take it From the top 1477 01:23:29,421 --> 01:23:32,633 I'm thinking, we should document it properly. 1478 01:23:32,716 --> 01:23:35,177 Let's think of some filmmaker 1479 01:23:35,385 --> 01:23:37,387 who could tell this story. 1480 01:23:38,889 --> 01:23:40,599 Robbie called me one day, 1481 01:23:40,724 --> 01:23:42,601 and he said, "These are some of the names in the lineup: 1482 01:23:42,809 --> 01:23:46,313 Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Muddy Waters, 1483 01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:47,481 Eric Clapton. " 1484 01:23:47,689 --> 01:23:50,067 Worse comes to worse, the Library of Congress 1485 01:23:50,234 --> 01:23:53,820 will have 35mm footage of these extraordinary people, 1486 01:23:53,904 --> 01:23:56,573 performers and artists, and that would be it. 1487 01:23:57,324 --> 01:23:59,826 What it became, really, it was a celebration. 1488 01:24:00,327 --> 01:24:03,997 It was a celebration. It was all the influences of The Band. 1489 01:24:10,879 --> 01:24:13,840 Woo! Big time, Bill! 1490 01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:15,842 Big time! Big time! 1491 01:24:15,968 --> 01:24:17,177 Ronnie Hawkins, 1492 01:24:17,302 --> 01:24:20,556 when I was 17 years old with him, I would play 1493 01:24:21,056 --> 01:24:24,560 and he would come over and fan the guitar 1494 01:24:24,810 --> 01:24:27,813 like it's gonna go up in flames if I don‘t cool it down. 1495 01:24:28,564 --> 01:24:30,774 It was just, it was so heartwarming. 1496 01:24:31,191 --> 01:24:32,484 Aaaah! 1497 01:24:34,695 --> 01:24:36,572 I went out with the boys a month early 1498 01:24:36,697 --> 01:24:39,449 just to see the rehearsals because I didn't know 1499 01:24:39,533 --> 01:24:41,660 a lot of these people, I'd never met'em. l knew who they were, 1500 01:24:41,743 --> 01:24:42,703 big stars. 1501 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:44,830 You see a lot of weird things out there, 1502 01:24:45,038 --> 01:24:47,291 and they paid 35,000 cash 1503 01:24:47,457 --> 01:24:50,043 right in front of me for a little ale bit of cocaine. 1504 01:24:50,335 --> 01:24:53,130 I snorted a couple lines and I said, "Boys, 1505 01:24:53,213 --> 01:24:54,756 there's enough fleur and sugar in this shit 1506 01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:55,799 you‘ll sneeze biscuits 1507 01:24:55,882 --> 01:24:57,926 for three fuckin' months after you snort this.“ 1508 01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:01,430 And they ended up buying another one. 1509 01:25:03,682 --> 01:25:06,393 Yeah, the caravan ls on its way 1510 01:25:07,144 --> 01:25:09,271 All I remember is that it was more of a celebration 1511 01:25:09,396 --> 01:25:10,772 than feeling sad. 1512 01:25:10,856 --> 01:25:12,899 I didn't know all these great-- all these people, 1513 01:25:13,775 --> 01:25:15,611 and that was a good gig, it was fun. 1514 01:25:15,736 --> 01:25:16,862 There was no pondering it. 1515 01:25:16,945 --> 01:25:19,323 It was only gonna happen once. You know, hey, presto. 1516 01:25:19,489 --> 01:25:24,286 La la lala, lala la 1517 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:30,042 La lalala Lala la 1518 01:25:31,627 --> 01:25:34,129 Yeah, the caravan is painted Red and white 1519 01:25:34,254 --> 01:25:37,841 It was a crazy idea, but we prepared so well. 1520 01:25:38,008 --> 01:25:41,470 I remember doing charts as to how to shoot, where to shoot, 1521 01:25:41,553 --> 01:25:43,347 which camera picks up which performer, 1522 01:25:43,472 --> 01:25:47,100 which lyric, which verse, the chorus, what instrument. 1523 01:25:48,477 --> 01:25:49,895 I said, "We shouldn't show the audience 1524 01:25:49,978 --> 01:25:51,021 reacting during songs. 1525 01:25:51,146 --> 01:25:52,981 We've seen it, so we stay on the stage. " 1526 01:25:53,774 --> 01:25:55,901 We had hoped to get the way The Band works, 1527 01:25:56,109 --> 01:25:58,612 the looks, the glances, the moves. 1528 01:25:58,820 --> 01:26:01,073 So I decided to stay onstage 1529 01:26:01,198 --> 01:26:03,158 with the performers, and how they relate to each other. 1530 01:26:03,241 --> 01:26:04,785 And that was the key to the whole piece. 1531 01:26:08,747 --> 01:26:10,540 When I found out who was on the bill, 1532 01:26:10,666 --> 01:26:11,875 I thought, "My god, 1533 01:26:12,125 --> 01:26:13,460 this is huge,“ you know? 1534 01:26:19,716 --> 01:26:21,843 The main memory I have of that thing 1535 01:26:22,052 --> 01:26:24,596 is obviously my strap coming off. 1536 01:26:25,305 --> 01:26:26,473 Whoa! 1537 01:26:27,224 --> 01:26:29,851 His strap brake, so I jumped in. 1538 01:26:30,102 --> 01:26:32,521 You've gotta cover his back, he was our guest! 1539 01:26:42,948 --> 01:26:45,992 And then he's like, "Wait a minute, pal, 1540 01:26:46,076 --> 01:26:49,246 let's not get too fancy over there. " 1541 01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:07,389 Further on up the road 1542 01:27:08,181 --> 01:27:10,684 What I remember about it, it was just... 1543 01:27:11,435 --> 01:27:12,936 sa free, it was... 1544 01:27:13,019 --> 01:27:15,355 and I mean, nobody knew what was gonna happen next. 1545 01:27:16,148 --> 01:27:18,108 And I loved it, I loved it. 1546 01:27:18,275 --> 01:27:19,776 I didn't want it to ever end. 1547 01:27:21,987 --> 01:27:24,322 I see my light 1548 01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,534 Come shining 1549 01:27:30,412 --> 01:27:35,125 From the west Down to the east 1550 01:27:38,462 --> 01:27:41,381 Any day now 1551 01:27:42,591 --> 01:27:45,677 Any day now 1552 01:27:46,553 --> 01:27:51,057 I shall be released 1553 01:27:52,684 --> 01:27:54,311 "The Last Waltz" 1554 01:27:54,436 --> 01:27:58,148 was such a beautiful thank-you 1555 01:27:58,356 --> 01:28:01,860 to this wonderful journey that we'd been on, 1556 01:28:02,027 --> 01:28:05,363 and the amazing experiences we had. 1557 01:28:06,156 --> 01:28:09,159 The whole thing was so moving. 1558 01:28:09,785 --> 01:28:12,621 Any day now 1559 01:28:13,705 --> 01:28:16,500 Any day now 1560 01:28:17,584 --> 01:28:22,339 I shall be released... 1561 01:28:35,644 --> 01:28:37,145 Thank you very much. 1562 01:28:40,148 --> 01:28:43,443 - Thank you. - Thank you very much. 1563 01:29:06,383 --> 01:29:08,635 When that curtain Comes down 1564 01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,348 We let go of the past 1565 01:29:15,058 --> 01:29:18,144 Tomorrow's another day 1566 01:29:19,229 --> 01:29:22,065 Some things weren't Meant to last 1567 01:29:22,732 --> 01:29:25,026 We need a little bit more of the harp 1568 01:29:25,777 --> 01:29:29,197 in the intro and in the first turnaround. 1569 01:29:29,489 --> 01:29:32,409 You want a little bit more, like, grit on it, or... 1570 01:29:32,784 --> 01:29:36,121 Yeah, just a little more atmosphere. Not so dry. 1571 01:29:36,371 --> 01:29:37,831 Yeah, got it. 1572 01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:43,253 Some things weren't Meant to last 1573 01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,173 We did "The Last Waltz" 1574 01:29:47,674 --> 01:29:51,553 with the idea that we would put that away, 1575 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,763 take care of one another a bit, 1576 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:57,976 and really come back together again 1577 01:29:58,143 --> 01:30:01,479 and make music like we had never made before. 1578 01:30:01,563 --> 01:30:04,524 That was our dream. That was the idea. 1579 01:30:06,234 --> 01:30:09,029 Everybody just forgot to come back. 1580 01:30:10,864 --> 01:30:13,199 There'll be no revival 1581 01:30:15,076 --> 01:30:17,662 There'll be no encore 1582 01:30:19,998 --> 01:30:22,584 Once were brothers 1583 01:30:23,877 --> 01:30:26,504 Were brothers no more 1584 01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:31,676 I was the first one 1585 01:30:31,885 --> 01:30:33,303 who was heartbroken, in a way, 1586 01:30:33,386 --> 01:30:35,347 because I loved The Band so much, 1587 01:30:36,097 --> 01:30:37,599 you know, and it felt like 1588 01:30:37,682 --> 01:30:40,268 it‘s closing this book, this chapter. 1589 01:30:41,728 --> 01:30:43,605 If somebody had said, 1590 01:30:43,688 --> 01:30:45,899 I've got a couple of tunes started, 1591 01:30:46,024 --> 01:30:51,321 we're dying to go in and create some music, 1592 01:30:52,447 --> 01:30:54,324 I would've said yes in a minute. 1593 01:30:55,075 --> 01:30:56,117 By that time 1594 01:30:56,201 --> 01:30:58,328 I don't think you could've kept The Band together. 1595 01:30:58,578 --> 01:31:00,789 Everybody had something they wanted to do, 1596 01:31:01,039 --> 01:31:03,667 and after "The Last Waltz, " 1597 01:31:03,833 --> 01:31:05,752 we started chasing those dreams. 1598 01:31:09,255 --> 01:31:10,840 Some years later, 1599 01:31:11,591 --> 01:31:13,969 Levon was having a tough time. 1600 01:31:15,845 --> 01:31:17,263 And out of that, 1601 01:31:17,889 --> 01:31:19,933 his anger was aimed at me. 1602 01:31:23,770 --> 01:31:27,273 In the end, Levon contended that somehow 1603 01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:31,361 he should've gotten a lot of the songwriting revenue. 1604 01:31:31,569 --> 01:31:34,114 And he just got more and more pissed off. 1605 01:31:35,949 --> 01:31:37,075 I can see why 1606 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,285 Levon might say something like that, 1607 01:31:39,369 --> 01:31:41,663 because he was really good at helping arrange. 1608 01:31:42,122 --> 01:31:43,373 But Robbie wrote all the songs. 1609 01:31:43,540 --> 01:31:45,542 Robbie was writing songs when he was 15 years old. 1610 01:31:46,668 --> 01:31:48,837 And the rest of the boys helped arrange the songs, 1611 01:31:49,129 --> 01:31:50,755 which is a little bit different. 1612 01:31:51,381 --> 01:31:54,467 Levon‘s point was that these were five guys 1613 01:31:54,759 --> 01:31:56,720 that all played a role 1614 01:31:56,803 --> 01:31:59,931 in making The Band what it was. 1615 01:32:00,849 --> 01:32:05,478 I mean, the combination of those five guys was so unique, 1616 01:32:05,603 --> 01:32:07,897 and so he felt as though Robbie 1617 01:32:08,023 --> 01:32:10,483 were claiming all the credit for himself. 1618 01:32:11,276 --> 01:32:14,571 You could kinda see in Levon, through this bitterness, 1619 01:32:14,696 --> 01:32:17,907 that because of his interpretation of what happened, 1620 01:32:18,033 --> 01:32:20,201 he was really hurting, you know? 1621 01:32:20,493 --> 01:32:22,037 He just let it chew him up. 1622 01:32:22,203 --> 01:32:25,665 And the sun 1623 01:32:25,832 --> 01:32:28,209 Don't shine 1624 01:32:29,794 --> 01:32:33,256 Anymore 1625 01:32:35,300 --> 01:32:36,926 When Levon ran out of money, 1626 01:32:37,135 --> 01:32:38,928 that's when he went crazy, 1627 01:32:39,054 --> 01:32:40,722 because he had been living high. 1628 01:32:40,805 --> 01:32:43,349 But Levon's kind of like me, he gets mad 1629 01:32:43,433 --> 01:32:45,894 and says things he shouldn't say, and goes crazy. 1630 01:32:47,312 --> 01:32:49,564 Levon and Robbie were best friends, 1631 01:32:49,689 --> 01:32:52,776 were brothers, I mean, Levon showed him the ropes. 1632 01:32:53,610 --> 01:32:55,403 So it was very sad 1633 01:32:56,112 --> 01:32:57,781 that that's how he felt 1634 01:32:58,073 --> 01:33:00,408 and that, you know, that's what he believed. 1635 01:33:02,535 --> 01:33:04,996 Years later, I got a message 1636 01:33:05,497 --> 01:33:08,124 that Levon was in the hospital 1637 01:33:09,834 --> 01:33:10,919 and he was dying. 1638 01:33:12,962 --> 01:33:16,049 I got on a plane and I went to the hospital. 1639 01:33:17,342 --> 01:33:19,636 Levon wasn't conscious anymore. 1640 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,058 His daughter was there and she took me into the room, 1641 01:33:25,266 --> 01:33:27,977 I sat with him and I held his hand 1642 01:33:28,937 --> 01:33:30,772 and I thought about 1643 01:33:31,856 --> 01:33:35,485 the amazing times that we had had together. 1644 01:33:37,612 --> 01:33:39,531 We'd been on the front lines 1645 01:33:39,739 --> 01:33:42,492 of two or three musical revolutions. 1646 01:33:44,077 --> 01:33:47,664 And now we're just left with these memories. 1647 01:33:49,582 --> 01:33:51,543 So I sat with my brother, 1648 01:33:51,709 --> 01:33:53,294 and held his hand. 1649 01:33:54,337 --> 01:33:55,463 You know, I said, 1650 01:33:55,630 --> 01:33:59,092 Levon, I‘ll meet you on the other end. 1651 01:34:06,057 --> 01:34:08,434 Virgil Caine is the name 1652 01:34:08,601 --> 01:34:11,688 And I served On the Danville train 1653 01:34:13,189 --> 01:34:15,733 'til Stoneman's cavalry came 1654 01:34:16,276 --> 01:34:19,529 And they tore up The tracks again 1655 01:34:21,072 --> 01:34:25,451 In the winter of '65, We were hungry 1656 01:34:25,827 --> 01:34:27,829 Just barer alive 1657 01:34:28,663 --> 01:34:31,749 By May the tenth, Richmond had fell 1658 01:34:31,958 --> 01:34:35,086 It's a time I remember 1659 01:34:35,170 --> 01:34:38,715 Oh so well 1660 01:34:39,090 --> 01:34:44,596 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1661 01:34:45,221 --> 01:34:47,640 When all the bells Were ringing 1662 01:34:47,849 --> 01:34:52,312 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1663 01:34:53,188 --> 01:34:56,191 And all the people Were singing, they went 1664 01:34:56,357 --> 01:35:00,028 Na, la, la, la, na, na 1665 01:35:00,111 --> 01:35:03,740 La la, na, na La, la, la, la, la 1666 01:35:07,911 --> 01:35:11,289 Back with my wife In Tennessee 1667 01:35:12,081 --> 01:35:14,959 When one day She called to me 1668 01:35:16,711 --> 01:35:19,756 Said "Virgil, quick, Come and see 1669 01:35:20,048 --> 01:35:22,759 There goes The Robert E. Lee" 1670 01:35:23,885 --> 01:35:27,055 Now I don't mind Choppin' wood 1671 01:35:27,597 --> 01:35:31,809 And I don't care If the money's no good 1672 01:35:31,893 --> 01:35:34,646 You take what you need And you leave the rest 1673 01:35:35,146 --> 01:35:38,399 But they should never Have taken 1674 01:35:38,524 --> 01:35:42,403 The very best 1675 01:35:43,112 --> 01:35:48,117 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1676 01:35:49,118 --> 01:35:51,496 When all the bells Were ringing 1677 01:35:51,579 --> 01:35:56,417 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1678 01:35:56,584 --> 01:35:59,420 And all the people Were singing 1679 01:35:59,587 --> 01:36:03,258 They went, "Na, la, la La, na, na 1680 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,054 La la, na, na La, la, la, na, na" 1681 01:36:15,770 --> 01:36:18,231 Like my father before me 1682 01:36:19,232 --> 01:36:22,193 I will work the land 1683 01:36:23,778 --> 01:36:27,073 And like my brother above me 1684 01:36:27,490 --> 01:36:30,076 Who took a rebel stand 1685 01:36:30,952 --> 01:36:34,414 He was just eighteen Proud and brave 1686 01:36:34,747 --> 01:36:38,793 But a Yankee laid him in his grave 1687 01:36:38,876 --> 01:36:41,921 And I swear by the mud Below my feet 1688 01:36:42,380 --> 01:36:45,341 You can‘t raise A Caine back up 1689 01:36:45,550 --> 01:36:49,929 When he's in defeat 1690 01:36:50,179 --> 01:36:55,518 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1691 01:36:56,185 --> 01:36:58,813 When all the bells Were ringing 1692 01:36:59,147 --> 01:37:03,484 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1693 01:37:04,319 --> 01:37:07,030 And all the people Were singing, they went 1694 01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,034 "Na, la, la, la, na, na 1695 01:37:11,284 --> 01:37:14,871 La la, na, na La, la, la, na, na" 1696 01:37:23,296 --> 01:37:28,634 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1697 01:37:29,052 --> 01:37:31,054 The bells were ringing 1698 01:37:31,179 --> 01:37:35,892 The night they drove Old Dixie down 1699 01:37:36,809 --> 01:37:38,895 And all the people Were singing 1700 01:37:38,978 --> 01:37:42,982 They went, "Na, la, la La, na, na, na 1701 01:37:43,566 --> 01:37:47,445 La la, na, na La, la, la, na, na" 1702 01:38:18,935 --> 01:38:23,106 Boards on the window, Mail by the door 1703 01:38:24,065 --> 01:38:28,027 What would anybody leave So quickly for? 1704 01:38:28,277 --> 01:38:30,321 Ophelia 1705 01:38:33,032 --> 01:38:35,076 Where have you gone? 1706 01:38:39,831 --> 01:38:44,168 The old neighborhood Just ain't the same 1707 01:38:45,128 --> 01:38:49,465 Nobody knows Just what became of 1708 01:38:49,549 --> 01:38:51,300 Ophelia 1709 01:38:53,344 --> 01:38:55,888 Tell me, what went wrong? 1710 01:39:01,144 --> 01:39:04,522 Was it somethin' That somebody said? 1711 01:39:06,232 --> 01:39:09,318 Mama, I know We brake the rules 1712 01:39:11,529 --> 01:39:15,491 Was somebody up Against the law? 1713 01:39:16,742 --> 01:39:21,414 Honey, you know I'd die for you 1714 01:39:21,831 --> 01:39:26,210 Ashes of laughter, The coast is clear 1715 01:39:26,961 --> 01:39:30,798 Why do the best things Always disappear 1716 01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:33,301 Like Ophelia 1717 01:39:35,052 --> 01:39:37,638 Please darken my door 1718 01:40:24,519 --> 01:40:28,272 Was it somethin' That somebody said? 1719 01:40:29,649 --> 01:40:32,443 Honey, you know We brake the rules 1720 01:40:34,779 --> 01:40:38,407 Was somebody up Against the law? 1721 01:40:40,034 --> 01:40:44,580 Honey, you know I'd die for you 1722 01:40:44,914 --> 01:40:46,832 They got your number 1723 01:40:47,875 --> 01:40:49,460 Scared and runnin' 1724 01:40:50,127 --> 01:40:53,839 But I'm still waitin' For the second comin' 1725 01:40:54,006 --> 01:40:56,092 Of Ophelia 1726 01:40:58,844 --> 01:41:01,097 Come back home 128766

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