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In no other modern country has
the forest feeling
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remained as alive as it
has in Germany.
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Each individual tree is always
taller than a man
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and goes on growing
until it becomes a giant.
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Its steadfastness has much in common
with the same virtue in a warrior.
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The German took the rigidity
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and straightness of trees
for his own law.
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In September 2010,
on a train crossing the border from
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Switzerland to Germany, an old man
was searched by customs officials.
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They found 9,000 euros in cash.
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Their suspicions would be the start
of a journey back in time -
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to a hoard of art hidden away
since the Third Reich.
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It has reignited passions that
seemed long spent.
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The art we are talking about is
covered in blood.
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Sadness, tragedy, brutality -
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all those terrible
experiences that people had.
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These weren't old masters but new -
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works which the Nazis came to
regard
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as just as sickly and degenerate
as the Jews themselves.
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They tried to wipe out both.
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When you're walking
through a great museum,
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it's possible that a painting you're
walking by and looking at was stolen
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from a Jewish family and you'll
never know it and they can't talk.
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Every one of these
paintings has a story
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and each story means something.
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It was on this street in a quiet,
well-to-do neighbourhood in Munich
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in November last year,
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that a scandal erupted that rocked
the art world
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and which has implications that will
resonate for years to come.
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Investigations of the man
on the train brought the police
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to that flat, where over 1,000
priceless artworks were unearthed.
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They'd been squirreled
away for over half a century.
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And much of it was suspected to be
Nazi-looted art.
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Amazingly, the German authorities
then kept their discovery secret.
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It only became public at all because
it was leaked to a news magazine.
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They revealed that it was the Nazis'
art dealer, Hildebrand Gurlitt,
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who had amassed this
collection of modern art,
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including Matisse, Monet
and Picasso.
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The man who hid himself
away along with the pictures
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was his son, Cornelius Gurlitt.
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A strange, rather sad-looking man.
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Sad, perhaps, because of the weight
of history on his shoulders.
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It was all over the news,
especially in Germany.
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TRANSLATION: Two days after the
revelations
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about the Munich art find,
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the State Prosecutor's Office has
made an announcement
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about its proceedings
against Cornelius Gurlitt.
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In February 2012, customs
investigators rang the doorbell
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with a search warrant.
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An art collection thought
to be worth a billion euros
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was not what
they were expecting to find.
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It took three days to pack up
some 1,500 artworks
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ready to take them away.
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It was quite painful
for many families.
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It opened up this hope of recovering
their art, which had been
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dormant for so long, because
they tried and tried and tried
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after the war. Every country that
they'd asked had said,
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"We've no idea where it is",
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and suddenly, here was this treasure
trove.
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I call these paintings the last
prisoners of World War II.
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Every piece of art that was
stolen from Jewish families
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is connected with a death.
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The people, the collectors who
had them, most of them died.
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TRANSLATION: Why the State
Prosecutor's Office
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hid the discoveries from the public
for almost two years
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remains their secret.
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David Toren was still a boy
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when his family lost the painting,
Two Riders on a Beach.
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A little closer.
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Good.
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I'll let you go across that one...
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When it was announced it had been
found but not returned,
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a well-wisher sent David,
now blind, this 3D version.
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One picture I remember had two
horses with people riding on sand.
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He has come out. That's the one
I used to look at.
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When that press conference
happened, what was your reaction?
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I was elated.
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But I was also angry when I heard
that they had been dilly-dallying
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18 months, knowing
that the heirs to the owners,
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like me, are old people.
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18 months is a long time.
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Since then, since that press
conference, I dream.
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And I dream all kind of things that
happened in my childhood,
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which I thought had disappeared
from my memory, they come back.
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I liked to
sit in front of that picture
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which was in a small room
next to a winter garden.
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A kind of indoor garden.
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There was a little room
ahead of that
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and there were chairs to sit on
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and I sat in one of those chairs
and looked at the picture
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and I liked that,
because I liked horses.
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The paintings were owned
by his great-uncle David,
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a successful businessman.
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What kind of a man was
David Friedman, your great-uncle?
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He was a very,
business-wise, aggressive man,
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but privately,
rather sweet and meek.
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Didn't talk much.
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Half a year, he lived
on his agricultural estates.
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Lots of land.
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There were about 10,000 acres.
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He had been in business
with my grandfather.
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They had had a brick factory
together.
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I don't know what happened to that.
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There were lots of people
around with the cows and the horses
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and the pigs,
and some guy taught me how to ride.
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I was small at that time,
I liked it.
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The painter of Two Riders
on the Beach, Max Liebermann,
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was probably the most successful
German artist of his time.
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He had this summer house built
in 1910 and designed its gardens.
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It was on the banks
of the fashionable Lake Wannsee,
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just outside Berlin.
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It was possible at the time for a
Jewish artist
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to be absolutely at the heart
of the German establishment.
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In 1884, he married Martha,
whom he often painted.
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He was hugely influenced
by his French contemporaries.
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He had a collection of French
Impressionist paintings, I gather?
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Yes, he loved the French.
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He was very inspired by the French
painters, especially by Manet,
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he loved Manet's painting,
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and he had in his collection
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around about 17 paintings of
this French master.
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Of Manet? Of Manet. Amazing.
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And he has all those paintings by
Degas and other Impressionists.
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He's a Jewish painter,
he's also a great collector
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with very good taste,
and this house is full of paintings.
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He was president
of the Prussian Academy,
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he was a grand gentleman
of the arts and culture.
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Indeed. He was
a citizen of honour of Berlin
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and he has all awards
you can imagine.
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After '33, all that awards,
all that honour, meant nothing
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because he was a Jew.
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Another German art collector
whose work was to fall
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into the hands of Hildebrand Gurlitt
was Sophie Lissitsky-Kueppers.
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Sophie was not Jewish, though her
second marriage would be to a Jew,
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El Lissitsky, one of the great
figures of Russian constructivism.
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As a young woman
she bought Paul Klee's Swamp Legend,
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just one of a vast collection
which would be stolen from her.
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She ended up banished to Siberia
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while art dealers
and museum directors in Germany
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made hay with her art collection.
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Sophie's granddaughter Anita
and her daughter Marita
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are now fighting to get
her pictures back.
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They live near Dresden,
in former East Germany.
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TRANSLATION: The photo,
the ancient photo.
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That's the only photo we still have
of my grandmother and me,
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the first time
she came to see us in Dresden.
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She was a proper, nice granny.
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I was still a child,
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and I was really happy to
finally have a second grandmother.
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She was very cultured
but also very natural.
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Simply this nice, elderly lady,
just as you imagine such a person
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to be, without saying anyone wasn't
on her level. That wasn't her way.
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These toys here came from our granny
Sophie,
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from far away Russia, I was told.
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This hare always
fascinated me, so as a child
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I really loved it.
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It's also
a wonderful memory of a woman
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I never met, but who nevertheless
played a big role in my childhood.
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Art runs through her whole
life like a red thread.
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She never deviated from that
and she sacrificed a lot for that.
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She always trod her own path.
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She was a stubborn child and young
lady who knew very well
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what she wanted, and her life was all
about art.
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Whenever she had trouble with her
mother who had different ideas
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for her in mind, she would
flee into the Alte Pinakothek.
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She would dive
into the world of Old Masters.
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She would strengthen herself
by looking at these pictures,
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It was really her world.
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She particularly liked the Rubens.
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When her mother tried to forbid her
to study the history of art,
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she would move the world to
do it anyhow.
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She met Paul Kueppers, her
later husband, in Munich,
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where he studied as well.
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They were both focused on Old Masters
in the first place,
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but they very
soon turned to modern art.
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Sophie's family was against
the relationship
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because of his poor health.
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Sophie and Paul had to keep their
relationship secret.
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So they would go to the gardens
of the Nymphenburg Castle.
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It has
a Versailles-like entrance,
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but then you find all
these hidden walkways.
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They would meet without being seen.
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We can only guess what they were
talking about,
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but must have been art!
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I started to work on this
subject, actually out of anger,
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about the way the press
reported restitution cases.
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It was all about how Jewish heirs
want to make money out of the past,
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want to rob German museums or
Austrian museums
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and nobody really asked
where these pictures came from,
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to whom they belonged in the past.
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And, really, we wanted to give a face
to these art collectors and to what
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they achieved in the past before
they were being robbed by the Nazis.
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Their gallery was their home.
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The walls of their rented flat
in Hannover.
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They didn't have money, really, but
Sophie inherited some money
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from her uncle and she spent
it immediately into modern art.
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So they were really addicts.
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Instead of a deer head hanging over
the fireplace there was a Kandinsky.
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For many people, that must have
been unsettling.
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Lots of these pictures that we're
still searching for
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were gifts to her from the artists.
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Or they bought them from the artists
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so the artists could make
a living.
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It wasn't the case that
they got rich from their pictures,
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For example, the Klee.
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"Paul Klee,
whom we both adored," said Sophie.
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Klee was
an artist-in-residence in Munich
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in the early 1920s,
and he had a studio in a castle.
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Sophie and Paul Kueppers were
coming from Hannover to Munich
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especially to visit him
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and they bought the Swamp Legend
straight from his studio.
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And he dedicated it
especially to them.
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"Everything is strange here,
entwined with childhood dreams,"
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said her husband.
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"Secrets are embedded
in the scribbled, twitching lines."
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"But for anyone who doesn't
feel its beauty in his heart,
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"words are but an empty echo."
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Sophie had the expertise,
really, to be a museum director,
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but it was impossible in her
times, as a woman, to be put
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in this position,
so she was really very disappointed.
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It was the avant-garde
scene of the time,
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really opening up Germany
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for a completely new
understanding of art.
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But their charmed
life came to an end.
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With rampant inflation in Germany,
their money dissolved,
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said Sophie, "Into the thin air,
like soap bubbles."
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Her husband Paul died of TB.
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Sophie grew close to one of the many
Russian artists
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who used to
drop in to their open house.
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TRANSLATION: Soon after the death of
her husband, Paul,
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Sophie fell in love
with El Lissitzky
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and decided to follow him to Moscow.
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And left the two boys in a boarding
school in Hannover.
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Every now and again
they were put on a train to Moscow
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and were allowed to live with
their mother during the holidays.
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The little one was six
and the big one eight.
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Look at them here, the two of them.
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The boy on the left is
Anita's father, Kurt.
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Something else Sophie left behind in
Hannover in 1926
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was her art collection.
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She couldn't possibly have taken it
with her to Moscow.
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She left it on loan to the
local museum.
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But it would turn out
not to be in safe hands.
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Right in the centre of Germany lived
perhaps the most important
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collector of German
Expressionist art, Alfred Hess.
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Not as Bohemian as Sophie,
he was an industrialist
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who made his money from shoes
in the ancient town of Erfurt.
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The most publicly debated painting
from his once huge collection,
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now scattered to the winds,
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has been Street Scene,
by Ernst Ludwig Kirchner.
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Here lived, it says,
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Alfred Hess, shoe manufacturer
and arts patron.
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It was called Hotel Hess, and many
of the artists who he patronised
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and looked after would make
pilgrimages here.
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The Hesses would invite
artists to stay and they would
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all sign a unique guestbook, which
is now kept at the Bauhaus archive.
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Oh...
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"Alfred and Tekla Hess - husband
and wife.
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"To dear friends in the
"beautiful new guestbook -
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"from their loyal painter
Lyonel Feininger.
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"Kind-hearted little ghosts."
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Thank you.
This is another beautiful Feininger.
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"To work better, that's always a
good reason
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"to let yourself be put up
in Erfurt. Erich Heckel."
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'It became a Who's Who
of expressionist art.'
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Wassily Kandinsky.
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'And of the whole avant-garde
scene in Germany.'
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Paul Klee - I mean, how long did he
spend doing that?
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Poets and philosophers came,
and musicians.
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Paul Hindemith.
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Hindemith brought his
quartet to play.
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"A Duet In Friendship To Hess."
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"Is there no telephone?"
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"From Lotte Lenya and Kurt Weill.
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"And the shark has sharp teeth,
dear."
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From the Threepenny Opera.
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"To the Hess house in sincere
friendship, Kurt Weill."
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Friedrich Friedl.
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Christian Rohlfs.
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Pechstein.
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"Kurt Weill's first stage success
was at the city's theatre,"
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wrote their son Hans.
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"not entirely without
the help of my father,
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"who bought a few hundred tickets
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"and filled the otherwise empty
seats by inviting everyone he knew.
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"Our house was well
known as a colourful place -
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"and it was probably even more
colourful than people knew."
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See the face there?
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I'm sure that would have
gone down badly with Adolf Hitler.
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HE CHUCKLES
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Robert Huth, 1919.
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This could be some terrible scene
from the battlefield.
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TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN:
His interest in art
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only developed after the First World
War from his wartime experiences.
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And when he came back
to Erfurt with these
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experiences of war - the
destruction of war
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and the mass hatred...
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..his life changed dramatically.
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There would have been housepainters
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scurrying about, as
well as artists.
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They showed pictures like these.
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TRANSLATED FROM GERMAN: They created
rooms for individual artists.
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And painted the walls
in bright colours.
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There was the blue room,
the yellow room.
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Whenever new art works
came into the collection,
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they moved all the pictures around.
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The pictures wandered from the
ground floor to the top floor.
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He had a Kirchner room -
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he had five or six
or seven Kirchner pictures.
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And together with
the director of the local museum
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he devoted himself to
expressionist art in a big way.
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This is the rather grand local
museum in Erfurt, which is
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a provincial town,
once part of East Germany.
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After the First World War this was
a hotbed of German expressionism.
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It was also, of course, a place
where National Socialism thrived
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and where anti-Semitism was
exceptionally strong.
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There were the two sides
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so it was really a big fight - it's
difficult to imagine nowadays.
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This is typical for whole Germany
at that time,
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that the situation
was polarised.
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There were strong left-wing groups
and strong right-wing nationalists.
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This is really interesting,
anti-Semitism
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and anti modernism, anti modern art,
so, to me, it is
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rather remarkable, the Bauhaus
is down the road in Weimar.
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You have people like Kandinsky and
Klee who are spending time there,
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visiting Erfurt, and you have
demonstrations against this museum,
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against the idea
of modernism and against the
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Jewish philanthropist, who, this
man, who is the patron of all this.
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Yeah. Alfred Hess gave every year
one painting to the museum.
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He was a very important art
patron for Erfurt
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but he was acting very silently.
He didn't want everybody to know
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he was the patron. He supported
the museum but in a quiet way.
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Maybe also to cause no conflict,
not to, as we say,
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not to put more oil
into the fire.
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The Shoe Jew, as he was known,
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had his house attacked as early
as 1923, as did the museum director.
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The local museum commission
called their support for modern art
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"an artistic mass psychosis."
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Lists circulated with
the name of every Jew in Erfurt.
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All over Germany, battle lines were
forming as to what art was
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suitable for the German people.
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As early as 1892, it was,
ironically, a Jew,
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an early Zionist
and physician called Max Nordau
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who was the first to apply the
medical term - "degenerate" -
to art.
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He dismissed art that he saw as,
"post industrial,
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"urban and unhealthy",
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as opposed to the solid,
earthy, craftwork of the folk.
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The attack on "sick" expressionism
gathered momentum.
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A young museum director,
one quarter Jewish himself,
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was having trouble
hanging on to his job.
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His name was Hildebrand Gurlitt.
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He had a Jewish grandmother,
which must have made him insecure.
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But, by all accounts,
the main reason he was under threat
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was because of his love of modern
art.
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He had an illustrious family
background in art history.
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Cornelius Gurlitt,
not the one that we
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know about, but his grandfather who
was Hildebrand's father,
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was a patriarch of Dresden and the
rector of the university there.
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He specialised in architecture
and town planning
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and art and he was a great advocate
of the baroque architecture that
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Dresden was so famous, but at that
time was not at all fashionable
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and not loved, so he did a great
deal to promote Dresden.
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But his son, Hildebrand,
turned to expressionism.
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He described going to the first
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exhibition of the Brucke
artists in 1912 with his mother
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when he was still a schoolboy.
And he described how shocked
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he was by that art, that it was so
brash, the colours were different.
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That became the art that
defined his life.
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And he became the director
of the art museum in Zwickau where
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he promoted exactly those artists
he had grown up with.
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In the '20s there
were a lot of campaigns
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in the press against degenerate art -
Entartete Kunst.
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Hildebrand Gurlitt, of course,
got into trouble as early as 1925
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because he was showing these
modern artists -
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that was against the conservative
mainstream in Zwickau which
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was a provincial industrial town.
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As still today, there are a lot of
people who are afraid of modern art.
They don't understand it.
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They think they're being taken for a
ride and that was the case then.
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People would say, "They call this
art? They can't even draw!"
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And this then became political
when the Nazis won power.
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Hildebrand Gurlitt was sacked
from his job in Zwickau in 1930
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and another in Hamburg soon after.
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CROWD CHANTS
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CHEERING
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Storm clouds were gathering.
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In a way, Alfred Hess was lucky -
he died in 1931,
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just before the storm broke.
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When the Nazis took power in 1933,
the noose tightened on Jews.
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The leading German impressionist and
collector of Manet, Max Liebermann,
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President of the Prussian Academy,
was stripped of all his honours.
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He was deeply depressed,
couldn't understand it -
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but, like Alfred Hess,
he died before he knew just
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how bad it would get.
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The Nazis knew which people
they hated.
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But it wasn't immediately clear
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what art they would ban.
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Until 1936 there was a huge
movement among the students,
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for example, but also Goebbels, who
personally liked that kind of art,
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to establish German expressionism
as official art of the state.
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Hitler let it happen until
the Olympic Games of 1936 because he
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wanted to behave like a liberal and
world open leader, but immediately
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after the Olympic Games had finished
he said, "Well, now we have to
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"define what is art appropriate to
the German...taste and thoughts."
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"A new human type, which
we saw last year
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"during the Olympic Games.
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"This is the 'type' of the new age.
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"But what do you manufacture?
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"Deformed cripples and cretins.
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"Women who inspire only disgust,
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"men who are more like wild beasts,
children who,
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"if they were alive would be regarded
as God's curse."
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Albert Speer even
says in his memoirs
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how he did up the Goebbels'
apartment in Berlin.
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He put Emil Nolde watercolours
on the wall of the apartment.
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Fantastic flower paintings.
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Pictures like these.
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The Goebbels were
absolutely delighted with it.
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Hitler came round, inspected the new
apartment, took one look
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at the Noldes and said, "They've got
to go, they're terrible!"
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And that was it, they went.
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So, until 1936, Goebbels was the one
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who'd tried to establish
expressionism.
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And a little bit
like Hildebrand Gurlitt,
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Goebbels changed his mind
immediately
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when he saw what Hitler liked
and what he did not like.
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And then was the moving power
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behind the Degenerate Art action
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which meant that, from 1937 on,
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everything which did not fit
with Hitler's taste
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was removed from German museums.
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That's actually a bit unfair
on Hildebrand Gurlitt.
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He didn't change his taste
for degenerate art,
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but he found a way of putting it
to his own use -
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working both for the Fuhrer
and for himself.
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This is the palace where the art
the Nazis hated would be stored.
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'Unrolling now was a state campaign
against state-owned modern art.'
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So, this is a picture taken
in this room.
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It says the entire ground floor
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served as storage
for degenerate art,
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which had been robbed from museums
and private collections.
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'It's ironic that the daring
and the scandalous
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'have been replaced by elegant,
18th century portraits.'
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'Hildebrand Gurlitt
had special access here
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because he was chosen by Goebbels
as one of four dealers
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commissioned to sell degenerate
works seized by the Nazis,
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and to buy approved paintings
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to fill the gaps
left on museum walls.
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Later, Gurlitt
described his role here.
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"A great many works
of modern art
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"passed through my hands,"
he writes,
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"from a depot of confiscated
art in Niederschoenhausen," here,
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"where if you had enough courage
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"you could buy
very beautiful paintings
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"with the same foreign currencies
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"that were otherwise illegal
to possess
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"and could land you in jail.
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"What wasn't sold for cash,
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"some 80,000 works of art,
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"I believe was burned by the SS."
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It's actually thought
to be far fewer.
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And then he goes on,
in a self-justifying manner,
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"I was able to save many of these
paintings from destruction
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"and pass them on
to great collectors."
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Of course, many he kept for himself.
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But before the bonfire
of those deemed worthless,
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came the ridicule.
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The paintings were displayed
for public contempt.
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The most notorious exhibition
was held here, in Munich, in 1937.
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Christian.
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Hi. Good afternoon.
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So here we are,
this is where it all happened,
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the Degenerate Art show.
Right.
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I've brought two illustrations.
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So that's where we are, is it?
Yes, exactly.
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There's quite a crowd
in this picture. Yes.
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So was it popular, this
Degenerate Art Exhibition?
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It was popular. But, as you see,
478
00:35:07,780 --> 00:35:09,740
there were no entrance fees,
479
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:12,420
at a time when every museum
and every exhibition
480
00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:15,460
you had to pay
ten Pfennig or something.
481
00:35:15,460 --> 00:35:18,940
There was quite a bit of
media hype around it.
482
00:35:18,940 --> 00:35:20,740
The newspaper reported,
483
00:35:20,740 --> 00:35:23,980
"Those are the real atrocities
of the world
484
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:26,540
"and you won't believe it
until you see it."
485
00:35:29,260 --> 00:35:32,060
"Take Dada seriously!
It's worth it."
486
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:34,020
A quote from George Grosz,
487
00:35:34,020 --> 00:35:35,780
not meant to be taken seriously.
488
00:35:38,380 --> 00:35:39,820
They say it themselves -
489
00:35:39,820 --> 00:35:42,500
"We act as though
we're painters or poets
490
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:44,900
"but we're just delighting
in taking the piss,
491
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,300
"bringing a giant swindle
into the world
492
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,100
"and breeding snobs
who'll lick our boots."
493
00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:59,300
The Dadaist Hannah Hoch
went to the show
494
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:00,580
and wrote in her diary...
495
00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:05,820
"The most important works
from the post-war years are here.
496
00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:07,420
"After the public persecution,
497
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:10,860
"it's astonishing
how disciplined the audience is.
498
00:36:10,860 --> 00:36:13,540
"There are a lot of closed faces
499
00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:15,700
"and you can see
opposition in many of them.
500
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:17,380
"Barely a word is said."
501
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:26,700
And just round the corner,
502
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,140
Hitler staged another exhibition
503
00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:31,780
of art that
good Germans should like.
504
00:36:34,380 --> 00:36:39,140
The idea behind it was that
if we have a sort of negative foil
505
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:43,740
then the good German art will be seen
in even a better light.
506
00:36:47,860 --> 00:36:52,300
And when you managed to be exhibited
here at the Haus der Deutschen Kunst,
507
00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:53,780
you'd made it.
508
00:36:53,780 --> 00:37:00,180
Because you have all the collectors
from the National Socialist elite
509
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:02,580
who would compete with each other
510
00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:06,580
for the best works of art that were
being offered here for sale.
511
00:37:06,580 --> 00:37:11,220
And Hitler himself was
the biggest buyer. Really?!
512
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:15,140
I think his artistic tastes
were indeed shaped
513
00:37:15,140 --> 00:37:16,980
by turn of the century Vienna
514
00:37:16,980 --> 00:37:20,460
and by artists that he himself
considered the best,
515
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:22,140
like Rudolf von Alt.
516
00:37:22,140 --> 00:37:25,420
So he organised a looting campaign
517
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:28,380
to get all Rudolf von Alt
water colours and paintings
518
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:29,620
for his own collection.
519
00:37:29,620 --> 00:37:31,700
Taken from Jews or taken from...?
In Vienna.
520
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:33,220
Taken from Jews
in Vienna. Yes, yes.
521
00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:38,460
Perhaps the art school in Vienna
522
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:40,500
should take some of the blame
for this,
523
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,100
as it was they who turned down
Hitler as an art student
524
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,980
not just once, but twice.
525
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:56,980
This year, in New York,
526
00:37:56,980 --> 00:37:58,980
the two shows - one degenerate,
527
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:01,580
the other with
the Nazi stamp of approval -
528
00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:03,900
have been restaged.
529
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,420
The works now sit
side-by-side in one show.
530
00:38:14,820 --> 00:38:18,300
"Works of art which
cannot be comprehended
531
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:21,060
"will no longer be foisted
upon the German people."
532
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:30,980
So these are the famous queues
to get into the exhibition, then?
533
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:36,300
Yeah. So, this is the line standing
in front of the venue in Hamburg
534
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:41,220
one year after the opening
of Degenerate Art show in Munich.
535
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:43,100
Because it was a travelling show,
536
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,300
this exhibition also had
several venues.
537
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:49,540
In Munich, it was really
a blockbuster.
538
00:38:49,540 --> 00:38:53,820
Two million people visited
the show over five months.
539
00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:56,180
I mean,
that's an extraordinary number,
540
00:38:56,180 --> 00:39:01,300
two million people visiting an
exhibition of art which was despised
541
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,980
and which was there to say,
"This is what we can do without."
542
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:08,380
And it's interesting, here,
that in this exhibition
543
00:39:08,380 --> 00:39:13,300
you clearly decided that you wanted
to tell two stories,
544
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:14,700
not just one.
545
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,460
Here we have the Beckmann triptych,
546
00:39:17,460 --> 00:39:20,700
which is an example of
degenerate art, big time,
547
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:24,100
and then on the right-hand side,
a painting by Ziegler
548
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:27,380
which was Hitler's favourite
painting, was it not?
549
00:39:27,380 --> 00:39:31,060
He selected this triptych,
the Four Elements by Adolf Ziegler.
550
00:39:31,060 --> 00:39:35,860
He'd installed it over the fireplace
in his Fuhrerbau in Munich.
551
00:39:35,860 --> 00:39:40,500
It makes clear what Hitler's taste
was about.
552
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,740
That it had to do something
with a naturalistic way
553
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:45,580
of depicting something...
554
00:39:45,580 --> 00:39:47,860
with racial ideals.
555
00:39:47,860 --> 00:39:51,900
It has also something to do with
classical nudity
556
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:54,340
and classical antiquity.
557
00:39:54,340 --> 00:39:58,420
You can see that Ziegler
was taught at an academy.
558
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:02,460
And that was also
very important for the Nazis.
559
00:40:02,460 --> 00:40:06,940
The idea in this gallery is to bring
the visitors of our exhibition
560
00:40:06,940 --> 00:40:10,580
to the historical situation
in the summer of 1937.
561
00:40:10,580 --> 00:40:13,820
So that you as a visitor
can really judge
562
00:40:13,820 --> 00:40:16,660
what was going on there,
and what is the contrast.
563
00:40:18,780 --> 00:40:23,380
"Art does not create a new age,
it is the fighters,
564
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:27,060
"those who truly shape
and lead peoples, who make history."
565
00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:31,940
"When the people pass
through these galleries,
566
00:40:31,940 --> 00:40:36,100
"they will recognise in me
their own spokesman and counsellor."
567
00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:42,900
"Our young artists will recognise
the path they will have to take."
568
00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:50,020
Yeah, the Beckmann picture
for our exhibition
569
00:40:50,020 --> 00:40:51,420
was extremely important
570
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:53,820
since in the first years
of the Third Reich
571
00:40:53,820 --> 00:40:55,860
he was working on that piece.
572
00:40:55,860 --> 00:40:59,420
And he's reflecting the political
circumstances in that painting.
573
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:02,780
On the side panels, you can
really see very brutal scenes
574
00:41:02,780 --> 00:41:05,020
of torture and violence.
575
00:41:07,260 --> 00:41:10,300
And in the middle panel,
he is opening the space,
576
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:12,940
he's showing us
something totally different.
577
00:41:12,940 --> 00:41:16,540
Beckmann was telling people
that the central panel
578
00:41:16,540 --> 00:41:18,580
is dealing with freedom.
579
00:41:18,580 --> 00:41:21,980
It was a very important point
to make for him,
580
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:26,180
in Berlin, in the mid 1930s,
under the rule of the Nazis.
581
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:33,700
Adolf Ziegler gave the opening
speech at the Degenerate Art show.
582
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,940
He said, "You see here aberrations
of madness,
583
00:41:36,940 --> 00:41:38,940
"dilettantism and decadence.
584
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:42,820
"It causes us all who see the show
shock and nausea.
585
00:41:42,820 --> 00:41:48,100
"Trainloads will be needed to rid
the German museums of this rubbish."
586
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:51,740
That very day, Max Beckmann
left Germany to go into exile.
587
00:41:58,220 --> 00:41:59,860
It's surprising for people
588
00:41:59,860 --> 00:42:02,540
that there were
artists in this exhibition
589
00:42:02,540 --> 00:42:05,340
who were allies
of Hitler, in many ways.
590
00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:07,580
There's Nolde over there... Yeah.
591
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:11,420
..who was himself very much a Nazi.
592
00:42:11,420 --> 00:42:15,300
He was probably the artist
who was affected the most
593
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,900
by the confiscation campaign
of the Nazis.
594
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:20,740
More than 1,000 works of him
were confiscated
595
00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:23,580
from German state museums.
596
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:26,980
He was aggressively
attacked by the Nazis
597
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:31,100
although he became,
in the early 1930s,
598
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,140
a member of the Nazi party.
599
00:42:35,940 --> 00:42:38,020
Other artists found different ways
600
00:42:38,020 --> 00:42:39,700
of accommodating
to the new order.
601
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:43,900
Kirchner had tried to
justify his Street Scene
602
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,380
as "genuinely German."
603
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:49,420
"How much genuine German drawing
skill is required
604
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:52,060
"to paint such a picture?,"
he wrote.
605
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,300
"The way the movement of the
passersby
606
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:56,740
"is rendered in the rhombus
of the heads.
607
00:42:56,740 --> 00:43:00,820
"This picture would be interesting
to look at alongside one by Durer.
608
00:43:00,820 --> 00:43:03,140
"I certainly believe it would
hold its own."
609
00:43:04,980 --> 00:43:07,900
But his self justification
was to no avail.
610
00:43:07,900 --> 00:43:11,260
A total of 639 of his works
611
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:13,980
were seized from museums
during the Third Reich.
612
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,220
32 were ridiculed in the show.
613
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:22,940
Kirchner started this
self portrait in 1932
614
00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:27,180
but altered it in 1937, the year
of the Degenerate Art show.
615
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:33,460
He blurred his face. You can
only see one half of a face.
616
00:43:33,460 --> 00:43:37,380
He added these yellow stripes
which are blocking his hands
617
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:42,060
so he is no longer able
to work as an artist.
618
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:46,260
There is a red swastika behind
Kirchner,
619
00:43:46,260 --> 00:43:48,740
he is reflecting how he is affected
620
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:50,820
by the cultural policy
of the Nazis.
621
00:43:52,220 --> 00:43:57,660
Maybe it was one of the most
significant reasons for him
622
00:43:57,660 --> 00:44:00,140
to commit suicide in 1938.
623
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:11,580
The proud owner
of the Kirchner Street Scene,
624
00:44:11,580 --> 00:44:15,180
which once hung at the Hotel Hess,
is now Ronald Lauder.
625
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:19,020
Heir to the Estee Lauder
cosmetics fortune,
626
00:44:19,020 --> 00:44:22,380
he started collecting
Egon Schiele and Gustav Klimt
627
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:26,420
when he was just 14.
628
00:44:26,420 --> 00:44:31,220
He bought this painting
by Klimt in 2006.
629
00:44:31,220 --> 00:44:34,060
It was looted by the Nazis
during the war
630
00:44:34,060 --> 00:44:37,260
and the family who owned it fought
for years to get it back.
631
00:44:39,540 --> 00:44:42,140
The Klimt and the Kirchner
are now on show
632
00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:44,820
at Lauder's gallery in New York.
633
00:44:44,820 --> 00:44:48,020
There's tens of thousands of
missing pieces,
634
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:49,780
and they're somewhere.
635
00:44:49,780 --> 00:44:51,500
Some were destroyed.
636
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,260
And we are looking at paintings
from the film
637
00:44:54,260 --> 00:44:57,220
and we have no idea where they are.
638
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,980
In 1987,
I was in Austria as ambassador.
639
00:45:07,980 --> 00:45:13,100
Someone told me, "Go to a convent,
outside of Vienna."
640
00:45:18,020 --> 00:45:20,060
And I went there.
641
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:28,020
They unlocked the door,
all of a sudden,
642
00:45:28,020 --> 00:45:32,900
look inside, and there's row
after row of paintings, furniture,
643
00:45:32,900 --> 00:45:36,820
silverware, pottery, rugs.
644
00:45:36,820 --> 00:45:40,180
I realise this was the depository
645
00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:43,140
of all the things stolen
from Jewish homes
646
00:45:43,140 --> 00:45:47,580
that frankly no-one wanted,
or no-one had the time to take.
647
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:50,820
And I said, "This is important.
648
00:45:50,820 --> 00:45:53,260
"This is like time stood still."
649
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:59,580
It didn't look any different, I'm
sure, in 1945, when the war was over.
650
00:45:59,580 --> 00:46:03,780
Someone just closed the door,
put a key, locked it and left it.
651
00:46:05,420 --> 00:46:09,420
I bought 14 frames, empty frames.
652
00:46:09,420 --> 00:46:14,180
They didn't want to transport
the frame cos it was too big,
653
00:46:14,180 --> 00:46:16,820
so they took it out of the frame
and they left the frame,
654
00:46:16,820 --> 00:46:18,460
they took the picture.
655
00:46:18,460 --> 00:46:21,180
We'll never know what
pictures were in there.
656
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:24,940
We put in the frames the names
of paintings that are missing,
657
00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:27,780
that are most likely
destroyed by the Nazis.
658
00:46:30,860 --> 00:46:33,300
And they must have
been great paintings.
659
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:37,660
There's one Beckmann of a beach
scene that we never have found.
660
00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:41,980
Now, either it was destroyed or
it's in someone's home.
661
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:05,380
Germany's brightest and best were
exiled or killed during those years.
662
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:11,180
Not just Jews and artists
but radicals, scientists, dreamers.
663
00:47:13,300 --> 00:47:17,140
Germany has been haunted
by their absence ever since,
664
00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:19,980
clinging on to what they
created or collected,
665
00:47:19,980 --> 00:47:21,980
as if to its own essence.
666
00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:24,700
Claiming their legacy as its own.
667
00:47:27,300 --> 00:47:31,380
A thriving art world was
decimated by the Nazis.
668
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:34,140
Collectors and dealers
were very often Jewish.
669
00:47:35,340 --> 00:47:38,500
One rather callous collector said,
"In these times,
670
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,100
"a collection of modern art that
must be sold quickly
671
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,780
"is nearly always a Jewish one,
672
00:47:42,780 --> 00:47:45,580
"whose owner had to
pick up his walking stick."
673
00:47:46,900 --> 00:47:49,780
And someone was always on hand
when they did -
674
00:47:49,780 --> 00:47:51,900
someone most of them already knew -
675
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:56,140
the sacked museum director turned
art dealer, Hildebrand Gurlitt.
676
00:47:58,620 --> 00:48:01,220
His collections would
fill the flat in Munich
677
00:48:01,220 --> 00:48:04,500
in which his son was discovered
some 80 years later.
678
00:48:05,660 --> 00:48:09,140
He began buying from
Jews who were in trouble.
679
00:48:09,140 --> 00:48:11,140
There are two ways of seeing this.
680
00:48:11,140 --> 00:48:14,740
After 1938, the Jews were
not allowed to sell art,
681
00:48:14,740 --> 00:48:17,460
and Hildebrand Gurlitt
was a risk taker,
682
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:20,940
so he bought from them, under value,
683
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:23,820
but, you know, they may not have
been able to sell it at all
684
00:48:23,820 --> 00:48:25,220
if he hadn't bought it.
685
00:48:25,220 --> 00:48:28,620
So was he doing them a favour,
or was he ripping them off?
686
00:48:28,620 --> 00:48:31,260
Both, I guess.
687
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:34,980
One of the first to leave, in 1933,
688
00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:38,420
just as the Nazis took power,
was Alfred Flechtheim.
689
00:48:43,860 --> 00:48:45,740
A real promoter of the avant garde,
690
00:48:45,740 --> 00:48:48,940
Flechtheim championed
Picasso, Braque, Van Gogh
691
00:48:48,940 --> 00:48:51,380
and had a dozen Max Beckmanns.
692
00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:56,260
The plaque reads, "In this house
lived from 1923 to '33,
693
00:48:56,260 --> 00:48:57,900
"Alfred Flechtheim,
694
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:01,740
"art dealer, publisher
and supporter of modern art."
695
00:49:05,820 --> 00:49:09,100
Flechtheim's descendants
are now trying to reclaim
696
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:13,260
the art he sold in a hurry
as he grabbed his walking stick.
697
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:17,020
These drawings they got back
and then gave, on loan,
698
00:49:17,020 --> 00:49:19,260
to this museum in Cologne.
699
00:49:19,260 --> 00:49:22,900
The family's lawyer has also been
involved in the restitution
700
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,420
of another of Flechtheim's artworks,
701
00:49:25,420 --> 00:49:27,740
The Lion Tamer by Max Beckmann.
702
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:32,220
It was painted in 1930
and it was given
703
00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:34,860
to Alfred Flechtheim,
704
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:38,500
the famous art dealer, who
represented Beckmann at that time,
705
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:40,780
in order to pay off
Beckmann's debts.
706
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:45,020
But now it was Flechtheim
who needed money.
707
00:49:45,020 --> 00:49:48,700
inflation and then the depression
had damaged his business,
708
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:51,700
but far more importantly,
he needed money to get away.
709
00:49:53,260 --> 00:49:55,380
He knew his days were numbered.
710
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:59,260
The Nazis hated him
not only because he was Jewish
711
00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:01,700
but especially because
he represented
712
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,860
what the Nazis
later on called degenerate,
713
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:07,100
and so he was in the headlines,
714
00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:09,620
and the Nazis called
for his extermination.
715
00:50:13,180 --> 00:50:15,500
As Flechtheim was preparing to flee,
716
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,780
shortly before selling the bulk
of his collection at auction,
717
00:50:18,780 --> 00:50:22,020
he sold Beckmann's Lion Tamer
to Hildebrand Gurlitt.
718
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:26,580
In all these cases, the
question to be answered is,
719
00:50:26,580 --> 00:50:30,340
was it a forced sale,
a sale under duress?
720
00:50:30,340 --> 00:50:33,580
Would they have sold were
the Nazis not in power?
721
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:38,500
If it's a forced sale,
they should be given back.
722
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,100
If someone was selling in 1933,
723
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:44,300
it's far harder to prove that
they were selling under duress,
724
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,900
than if they were selling in 1938.
725
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:48,740
It's very likely that they were.
726
00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:54,100
The usual argument
to refuse restitution
727
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:56,820
is that people
would have sold anyway,
728
00:50:56,820 --> 00:51:00,620
Nazis or not,
even if, like Flechtheim,
729
00:51:00,620 --> 00:51:02,380
they were on a Nazi death list.
730
00:51:05,420 --> 00:51:07,700
These sales come
back to haunt people
731
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,660
working in the art trade today,
732
00:51:09,660 --> 00:51:12,380
including firms like this one.
733
00:51:12,380 --> 00:51:16,500
Lempertz is an auction house that
was established in the 19th century.
734
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:19,100
It's the Hanstein family firm.
735
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:21,900
It continued to trade
throughout the Nazi years.
736
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:30,700
Max Beckmann's Lion Tamer would
pass through their hands later,
737
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:32,780
like a poisoned chalice.
738
00:51:32,780 --> 00:51:35,100
But when it did,
they put it up for sale
739
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:38,380
with no suggestion that its
origins might be tainted.
740
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:43,060
Today the head of the family firm
is Henrik Hanstein.
741
00:51:45,020 --> 00:51:48,300
Flechtheim had to
leave Germany in 1933
742
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,340
because he was bankrupt and a Jew,
743
00:51:51,340 --> 00:51:56,140
and, well, he left,
fortunately, on time.
744
00:51:56,140 --> 00:51:59,660
But he sold, in
the beginning of 1933,
745
00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:04,500
the gouache of Max Beckmann,
directly to Hildebrand Gurlitt.
746
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:08,020
You don't think that sale
was a sale under duress?
747
00:52:11,660 --> 00:52:13,700
Hard to say. I don't know.
748
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,580
QUESTION ASKED IN GERMAN
749
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,420
I don't know. Maybe.
750
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:30,380
More and more extortionate taxes
were imposed on Jews,
751
00:52:30,380 --> 00:52:32,780
as harassment and persecution
increased.
752
00:52:32,780 --> 00:52:35,460
Including a hefty emigration tax.
753
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:43,580
And this is Max Stern -
another major Jewish art dealer,
754
00:52:43,580 --> 00:52:46,020
who had a fabulous
private collection.
755
00:52:46,020 --> 00:52:50,020
In 1937, Max Stern decided
he had to get out.
756
00:52:53,140 --> 00:52:57,380
And it was Lempertz auction house
that held a final sale.
757
00:52:57,380 --> 00:53:02,300
The Max Stern sale
wasn't a forced sale.
758
00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:07,140
He was under stress to sell, but
it wasn't a classical forced sale.
759
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:12,340
He gave by himself the order
to sell the collection,
760
00:53:12,340 --> 00:53:15,500
he wrote the catalogue,
he attended the preview,
761
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:20,140
he attended the auction
and he got the result of the sale.
762
00:53:20,140 --> 00:53:22,340
And even when
I had contact with him
763
00:53:22,340 --> 00:53:24,420
he also gave me the impression
764
00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:28,420
that he has been in a very
thankful position against Lempertz
765
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:30,300
and he said, "I'm very thankful
766
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,060
"that your grandfather did
this sale for me."
767
00:53:33,060 --> 00:53:35,900
And he visited my grandfather
after the war,
768
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,020
thanking him for doing this sale
for him.
769
00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:43,140
Here it is. This is the image
of the work.
770
00:53:43,140 --> 00:53:45,140
And this is one of the paintings
771
00:53:45,140 --> 00:53:49,580
that Lempertz sold for Max Stern
in 1937.
772
00:53:49,580 --> 00:53:51,420
Of course it was a forced sale.
773
00:53:51,420 --> 00:53:55,900
Because if he had not been forced
to liquidate his business
774
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:59,980
to flee the country,
he would not have sold his works.
775
00:53:59,980 --> 00:54:04,900
How could Professor Hanstein
then say it wasn't a forced sale?
776
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,340
He made it sound like it was rather
a civilised exchange, really.
777
00:54:08,340 --> 00:54:11,060
Yeah, this is something
that I cannot really understand,
778
00:54:11,060 --> 00:54:13,180
I'm astonished that he's
still denying it.
779
00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:18,940
The fact that Max Stern
apparently knew the then-owner,
780
00:54:18,940 --> 00:54:24,740
Hanstein, that he participated
in preparing the auction,
781
00:54:24,740 --> 00:54:29,780
does not... It's not an argument for
saying that it's not a forced sale.
782
00:54:29,780 --> 00:54:32,260
It simply shows that he was trying to
783
00:54:32,260 --> 00:54:36,220
make the best out of a very bad
situation that he had been in,
784
00:54:36,220 --> 00:54:38,140
not voluntarily.
785
00:54:38,140 --> 00:54:42,780
Lempertz benefitted
from the persecution of Max Stern
786
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:45,060
by conducting this auction,
787
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:48,540
because they get their buyer's
premium on every sale.
788
00:54:48,540 --> 00:54:52,340
One can say that the auction houses
are always on the winning side.
789
00:54:55,940 --> 00:54:59,860
The crucial issue that we face with
auction houses like Lempertz,
790
00:54:59,860 --> 00:55:02,940
they only argue legally,
791
00:55:02,940 --> 00:55:08,220
and they never take into account
the moral aspect.
792
00:55:08,220 --> 00:55:12,660
Lempertz sold the art collection
of Albert Speer,
793
00:55:12,660 --> 00:55:14,740
who was one of Hitler's main helpers.
794
00:55:16,940 --> 00:55:19,780
Of course it might have been
legally correct,
795
00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:23,620
but is this something
one should do? I don't know.
796
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,420
Hildebrand Gurlitt
succeeded in navigating
797
00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:33,420
these dangerous
and conflicting currents.
798
00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:37,700
The Gurlitt family home
was a fine house on this site,
799
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:41,180
bombed out of existence in 1945.
800
00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:44,740
Just round the corner lived
another Jewish collector
801
00:55:44,740 --> 00:55:49,780
under pressure to sell up -
the lawyer Fritz Glaser.
802
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:53,860
When Hildebrand Gurlitt
was a museum director,
803
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:55,700
Glaser would lend him pictures.
804
00:55:56,940 --> 00:56:00,220
As well as works by Klee,
Kandinsky and Nolde,
805
00:56:00,220 --> 00:56:05,420
Glaser had 60 by Otto Dix, who
painted this portrait of the family.
806
00:56:08,140 --> 00:56:12,140
Besides being Jewish
and collecting degenerate art,
807
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:14,020
Glaser had defended communists,
808
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:16,860
which didn't go down well
with the Nazis either.
809
00:56:16,860 --> 00:56:20,620
He managed to hang on in Germany
longer than most
810
00:56:20,620 --> 00:56:22,940
as his wife was not Jewish.
811
00:56:22,940 --> 00:56:25,780
It was a so-called
"privileged mixed marriage".
812
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:30,700
TRANSLATION: Glaser was actually
one of the first lawyers
813
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:34,780
who lost his right to practise,
in October 1933.
814
00:56:36,620 --> 00:56:38,820
So that meant
he was no longer allowed
815
00:56:38,820 --> 00:56:40,820
to make an income
from his profession.
816
00:56:44,660 --> 00:56:47,980
So he had to begin to sell
his artworks.
817
00:56:47,980 --> 00:56:52,220
Sabine Rudolf is now trying to
track down his pictures.
818
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:55,660
13 have surfaced
in the Cornelius Gurlitt hoard.
819
00:56:55,660 --> 00:56:59,740
But her task is made much harder
by the lack of records.
820
00:57:02,140 --> 00:57:04,620
TRANSLATION: As you know, from 1938,
821
00:57:04,620 --> 00:57:07,820
it was forbidden for Jews
to sell artworks themselves.
822
00:57:09,860 --> 00:57:13,340
That's why Glaser left
no invoices and receipts.
823
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:19,260
Because he knew the Gestapo
would come to his house,
824
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:21,780
the Gestapo would go through
everything.
825
00:57:21,780 --> 00:57:23,460
And if they found a receipt,
826
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:26,180
they'd know he'd broken the law
and he'd be deported.
827
00:57:32,020 --> 00:57:35,460
The Nazis seized 1,000 paintings
and drawings
828
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,380
from the Angermuseum in Erfurt,
829
00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:41,180
of which Alfred Hess
had been such a strong supporter.
830
00:57:41,180 --> 00:57:46,980
So these are the pictures
confiscated in 1937.
831
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:51,740
Here's a Kandinsky,
there's a Feininger,
832
00:57:51,740 --> 00:57:55,380
Alfred Hess, Emil Nolde,
833
00:57:55,380 --> 00:58:00,700
again from Alfred Hess,
another Nolde,
834
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:04,900
Hess, that's Pechstein.
835
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:10,380
In 1937, the Gestapo come in here,
836
00:58:10,380 --> 00:58:13,300
they take the cream
of your collection,
837
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:16,540
but there is one great work of art
you still have -
838
00:58:16,540 --> 00:58:19,060
you have the Heckelraum. Yes.
839
00:58:19,060 --> 00:58:20,780
The Heckel room - like a chapel,
840
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:23,900
covered in murals by the
expressionist Erich Heckel,
841
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,940
a symbolic response to
the First World War
842
00:58:26,940 --> 00:58:29,100
made possible by Alfred Hess.
843
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:32,700
This is a miracle
that this is still existing.
844
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:35,420
The temporary director of the museum
845
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:38,380
had the idea to protect
the Heckelraum
846
00:58:38,380 --> 00:58:42,260
by closing the whole space
with a wall,
847
00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:46,940
and she put a medieval angel
before it, guarding the Heckelraum.
848
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:50,620
So when the Nazis came,
they missed it.
849
00:58:53,180 --> 00:58:55,220
The angel may have saved the mural,
850
00:58:55,220 --> 00:58:58,980
but was not so successful
with people.
851
00:58:58,980 --> 00:59:02,620
Tekla Hess's brother would be sent
to Dachau.
852
00:59:02,620 --> 00:59:05,660
The family lawyer
and the director of the shoe factory
853
00:59:05,660 --> 00:59:07,180
ended up in Buchenwald.
854
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:15,620
The Hess's son Hans
suffered persecution too -
855
00:59:15,620 --> 00:59:19,140
he lost his job at a Berlin
publishing house in 1933,
856
00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:21,740
when all the Jews there were sacked.
857
00:59:21,740 --> 00:59:24,060
And he narrowly escaped arrest.
858
00:59:26,380 --> 00:59:30,180
TRANSLATION: He lived with
a colleague of Bertolt Brecht.
859
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:35,980
She was also under observation
and subject to persecution.
860
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:41,740
So their flat was raided
and vandalised.
861
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:48,140
His flatmate Elisabeth Hauptmann
was taken away.
862
00:59:48,140 --> 00:59:51,900
They said they'd be back
for the other one.
863
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:55,420
Hans Hess fled Germany.
864
01:00:02,540 --> 01:00:07,420
His mother, Tekla Hess, struggled to
save the family's art collection.
865
01:00:07,420 --> 01:00:11,220
She sent it on loan to a museum
in Switzerland, for safe-keeping.
866
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:16,340
Then she too had a visit
from the Gestapo.
867
01:00:16,340 --> 01:00:20,420
Under pressure, she brought almost
all the pictures back to Germany.
868
01:00:20,420 --> 01:00:24,180
It was the beginning of the end
of their collection.
869
01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:27,500
TRANSLATION: The works
had barely reached Cologne
870
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:31,620
when the news spread through the
German collector scene like wildfire.
871
01:00:34,780 --> 01:00:37,780
"Here there are now
totally wonderful great works
872
01:00:37,780 --> 01:00:39,740
"up for grabs at low prices."
873
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:46,420
A chance to get highlights
from Kirchner for a low sum,
874
01:00:46,420 --> 01:00:49,660
and the collectors came and snapped
up these pictures.
875
01:00:53,340 --> 01:00:56,580
"They probably belong to Jewish
people who had to get out,"
876
01:00:56,580 --> 01:01:00,060
said Kirchner, whose Street Scene
went to a non-Jewish collector.
877
01:01:05,340 --> 01:01:09,860
Tekla Hess moved to Bavaria
to escape the Erfurt Nazis.
878
01:01:09,860 --> 01:01:14,820
Then in 1939 she fled, and joined
her son Hans in England.
879
01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:22,540
The final place of exile
for many Jewish refugees
880
01:01:22,540 --> 01:01:24,580
was the United States.
881
01:01:24,580 --> 01:01:26,660
It's home to David Toren,
882
01:01:26,660 --> 01:01:30,580
one of the last to get
out of Germany before the war.
883
01:01:30,580 --> 01:01:33,940
He's the boy whose
great-uncle's painting
884
01:01:33,940 --> 01:01:37,900
Two Riders on the Beach turned up
in Cornelius Gurlitt's flat.
885
01:01:39,820 --> 01:01:45,540
Until Kristallnacht in 1938, David
Toren was at a mixed city school.
886
01:01:45,540 --> 01:01:50,780
With another kid, we were
the only Jews in the whole school.
887
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:53,820
We were bullied by the other kids,
888
01:01:53,820 --> 01:01:57,060
and the teachers were awful,
some of them.
889
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:01,340
I got lots of what's called
in German Ohrfeigen -
890
01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:03,900
slaps in the face.
891
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:08,820
There was a history teacher
whom I disliked intensely
892
01:02:08,820 --> 01:02:11,740
and he said that Eden,
893
01:02:11,740 --> 01:02:17,620
that was the Foreign Secretary
of Great Britain at the time,
894
01:02:17,620 --> 01:02:21,580
had a sister who was married
to Stalin
895
01:02:21,580 --> 01:02:27,980
and they were planning, Eden
and Stalin, to conquer the world.
896
01:02:27,980 --> 01:02:35,100
So in my innocence I piped up
and said, "I don't think that is so,
897
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:39,980
"I don't think that Eden has
a sister that's married to Stalin."
898
01:02:39,980 --> 01:02:43,380
The guy got furious.
899
01:02:43,380 --> 01:02:48,980
He asked me to come to
the front of the class
900
01:02:48,980 --> 01:02:52,740
and he gave me Ohrfeigen
left and right
901
01:02:52,740 --> 01:02:54,820
and told me not...
902
01:02:54,820 --> 01:03:00,900
To shut up and not to talk
about things I knew nothing about.
903
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:04,300
So I never said anything more
in that class.
904
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:08,260
I left in August of '39.
905
01:03:08,260 --> 01:03:14,660
My father was convinced that war
would break out this year
906
01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:19,220
and he wanted to get me
and my brother out of Germany.
907
01:03:20,820 --> 01:03:27,300
So he found a place
in a Kindertransport to Sweden.
908
01:03:30,380 --> 01:03:32,740
So David and his brother escaped.
909
01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:36,260
His great-uncle David
and his parents were not so lucky.
910
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:40,060
First, the Gestapo
came after the art collection.
911
01:03:40,060 --> 01:03:45,660
"Breslau, December 1939. Subject:
Securing Jewish holdings of art."
912
01:03:45,660 --> 01:03:52,540
The letter starts out by saying
there's still some rich Jews left
913
01:03:52,540 --> 01:03:57,140
who, um, have rich art collections.
914
01:03:57,140 --> 01:04:00,620
And as first example he says
915
01:04:00,620 --> 01:04:04,100
"There's a Jew called
David Friedmann,"
916
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:05,980
and even gives the address.
917
01:04:05,980 --> 01:04:09,780
It was in the villa in the city.
918
01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:14,580
Friedmann has a very
good art collection
919
01:04:14,580 --> 01:04:17,060
and he starts listing it.
920
01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:19,460
French impressionists,
921
01:04:19,460 --> 01:04:23,540
like Pissarro, Rousseau, Courbet,
922
01:04:23,540 --> 01:04:27,180
Rafaelli, and then he says he has
923
01:04:27,180 --> 01:04:30,060
two Max Liebermanns.
924
01:04:30,060 --> 01:04:34,220
One is called The Basket
Weaver, the other one
925
01:04:34,220 --> 01:04:37,900
is called Riders On The Beach.
926
01:04:41,420 --> 01:04:43,900
The letter ends by saying,
927
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:47,620
"I have warned David Friedman not to
928
01:04:47,620 --> 01:04:52,580
"dispose of any of this
art until I come back."
929
01:04:56,980 --> 01:05:00,620
Just along the lake from the artist
Max Liebermann's summer house
930
01:05:00,620 --> 01:05:04,340
is the mansion where the Wannsee
conference was held in January,
931
01:05:04,340 --> 01:05:08,420
1942, declaring the final solution.
932
01:05:08,420 --> 01:05:10,980
The total elimination of the Jews.
933
01:05:15,340 --> 01:05:20,860
Both David Toren's parents were
gassed in Auschwitz, in 1943.
934
01:05:20,860 --> 01:05:25,060
They actually sent me a
postcard the day before...
935
01:05:27,540 --> 01:05:30,580
that they would be
resettled in the East,
936
01:05:30,580 --> 01:05:33,460
that was the term, "resettled".
937
01:05:33,460 --> 01:05:37,260
That's what the German
used to tell them
938
01:05:37,260 --> 01:05:39,540
what would to happen with them.
939
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:44,820
So I had, in Sweden, I had a
vision of nice little houses with
940
01:05:44,820 --> 01:05:49,900
flowerpots outside where
they would live, you know?
941
01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:54,940
But I hadn't the foggiest idea
that these were death camps with
942
01:05:54,940 --> 01:05:58,060
the gas chambers and crematoriums.
943
01:05:59,620 --> 01:06:01,700
His great uncle, David Friedmann,
944
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:03,820
died just before he
could be deported.
945
01:06:05,940 --> 01:06:08,740
His art collection was
taken away on trucks.
946
01:06:09,820 --> 01:06:13,660
Liebermann's Two Riders on the Beach
ended up with Hildebrand Gurlitt.
947
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:26,860
Liebermann dies 1935, what
happens to his wife then?
948
01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:30,300
His wife has to suffer
all this injustice
949
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:33,540
all German Jews have
to suffer that time.
950
01:06:33,540 --> 01:06:35,980
She has to give up
this house in 1940.
951
01:06:37,620 --> 01:06:42,060
She sits in her flat with some of
his pictures, what she's got left.
952
01:06:42,060 --> 01:06:46,500
Yeah yeah...and more and more alone!
953
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:50,820
The only chance for her not to
be deported to Theresienstadt
954
01:06:50,820 --> 01:06:52,700
was suicide in '43.
955
01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:56,300
A deplorable situation.
956
01:07:00,940 --> 01:07:04,020
TRANSLATION: The last portrait
Max Liebermann painted of his wife
957
01:07:04,020 --> 01:07:06,820
was one of the pictures left in
the flat after Martha Liebermann
958
01:07:06,820 --> 01:07:08,900
killed herself there.
959
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:13,820
He painted it in 1930 with the title
"Martha Liebermann In The Armchair."
960
01:07:19,620 --> 01:07:21,300
You could say that Martha Liebermann
961
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:24,060
ended her own life
under this portrait.
962
01:07:31,860 --> 01:07:34,500
Sophie Lissitzky-Kuppers'
art collection,
963
01:07:34,500 --> 01:07:37,420
left on loan to the local
museum, when she went
964
01:07:37,420 --> 01:07:40,780
to Russia in the '20s, was seized
for the Degenerate art show.
965
01:07:42,620 --> 01:07:45,900
Her two sons from her first marriage
had joined her in Siberia.
966
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:49,420
She'd had another son with
the artist El Lissitzky,
967
01:07:49,420 --> 01:07:51,860
who was now very ill with TB.
968
01:07:55,780 --> 01:08:00,140
Her son, Kurt, Anita's father,
couldn't get on with Lissitzky.
969
01:08:03,940 --> 01:08:05,780
TRANSLATION: At some point they are
970
01:08:05,780 --> 01:08:08,020
said to have pulled guns
out on each other.
971
01:08:08,020 --> 01:08:10,060
But that's all hearsay and long ago.
972
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:16,460
All I knew was that this
relationship was not
973
01:08:16,460 --> 01:08:17,980
particularly happy.
974
01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:26,100
So in 1935, as a teenager, Kurt
went back alone to Germany.
975
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:29,140
He returned just as others
were struggling to get out.
976
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:33,820
TRANSLATION: He'd come
from the Soviet Union
977
01:08:33,820 --> 01:08:36,540
and thought, "I'll go
back to my old homeland."
978
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:43,380
When someone came from the
Soviet Union to Nazi Germany,
979
01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:46,180
he never thought that he
would be so conspicuous...
980
01:08:50,060 --> 01:08:51,580
..and that lots of people would be
981
01:08:51,580 --> 01:08:54,300
paying attention to what he
said and what he got up to.
982
01:08:56,980 --> 01:09:01,220
To start with he was
sent to a work camp.
983
01:09:01,220 --> 01:09:03,780
And then he was sent to
a concentration camp,
984
01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:08,380
due to his refusal to fight in the
war and his pro-Soviet propaganda.
985
01:09:11,580 --> 01:09:14,220
During the war, Lissitzky
died of pneumonia
986
01:09:14,220 --> 01:09:16,220
and Sophie was sent to Siberia.
987
01:09:21,140 --> 01:09:24,380
TRANSLATION: The Germans were
expelled from Moscow.
988
01:09:27,660 --> 01:09:30,860
They were the enemy and had
to be sent a long way away,
989
01:09:30,860 --> 01:09:33,140
so they were all deported.
990
01:09:33,140 --> 01:09:35,940
She was given two days' grace
and allowed to take her son,
991
01:09:35,940 --> 01:09:38,580
I mean, Jen Lissitzky, with her.
992
01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:41,460
At that point he was still small.
993
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,860
And she also took a
canary and a blanket.
994
01:09:43,860 --> 01:09:46,860
That was all she had to start
a new life in Siberia with.
995
01:09:49,340 --> 01:09:52,220
She always told the
story about the way
996
01:09:52,220 --> 01:09:57,100
she got sent away with the boy,
a canary and a blanket and that
997
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,140
the bird died on the journey.
998
01:10:00,140 --> 01:10:01,780
It froze to death.
999
01:10:04,820 --> 01:10:08,420
The other son died in the Soviet
Union, in an internment camp,
1000
01:10:08,420 --> 01:10:10,140
because he was a German.
1001
01:10:18,740 --> 01:10:20,620
So both boys had bad experiences.
1002
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:25,540
Although, what could have
been right at that time?
1003
01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:28,980
That's the proof that you
can take different paths
1004
01:10:28,980 --> 01:10:31,780
and nonetheless end up
with the same fate.
1005
01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:40,540
All the horrors of the 20th century
are summed up in Sophie's
1006
01:10:40,540 --> 01:10:42,380
family story.
1007
01:10:42,380 --> 01:10:44,300
All the more grotesque, then,
1008
01:10:44,300 --> 01:10:47,660
that back in Germany, Hildebrand
Gurlitt and the other dealers
1009
01:10:47,660 --> 01:10:51,740
were already making hay with
Sophie's art collection.
1010
01:10:51,740 --> 01:10:53,980
After the Degenerate art show,
1011
01:10:53,980 --> 01:10:57,860
it should have been returned to
her as it was her private property.
1012
01:11:03,220 --> 01:11:06,380
It was robbed by the Nazis.
They didn't do
1013
01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:10,740
anything against it, since she was a
German enemy, as a communist living
1014
01:11:10,740 --> 01:11:13,820
in Russia, they looked at her as a
1015
01:11:13,820 --> 01:11:16,900
betrayer of national socialism.
1016
01:11:18,940 --> 01:11:20,860
Paul Klee's Swamp Legend,
1017
01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:23,700
which Sophie
and her first husband had bought
1018
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:28,140
direct from the artist in his Munich
studio, was picked up by Gurlitt.
1019
01:11:29,740 --> 01:11:32,540
Hildebrand Gurlitt
bought the Klee
1020
01:11:32,540 --> 01:11:35,980
and many other paintings far
below the market value, because it
1021
01:11:35,980 --> 01:11:39,820
was degenerate art, because the
Nazis wanted to get rid of it.
1022
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:44,900
And that's how Gurlitt and people
like him made their profit.
1023
01:11:48,620 --> 01:11:52,860
Another of Goebbels's four appointed
dealers, Ferdinand Moeller, bought
1024
01:11:52,860 --> 01:11:57,300
the Kandinsky that used to hang in
Sophie and Paul's flat in Hannover.
1025
01:12:03,140 --> 01:12:06,580
Gurlitt was running his
own gallery in Hamburg.
1026
01:12:06,580 --> 01:12:10,540
He was selling art to collectors,
secretly, clandestinely.
1027
01:12:10,540 --> 01:12:14,300
He had one room full of all
the 19th century artworks
1028
01:12:14,300 --> 01:12:16,460
that was acceptable to the Nazis
1029
01:12:16,460 --> 01:12:19,660
and then a backroom where he dealt
in all this expressionist art.
1030
01:12:22,140 --> 01:12:24,780
There were still collectors,
amazingly,
1031
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:26,500
still brave enough to buy this art.
1032
01:12:30,580 --> 01:12:33,860
He ran that gallery
until he got bombed out
1033
01:12:33,860 --> 01:12:35,900
of his Hamburg apartment...
1034
01:12:38,140 --> 01:12:42,100
..and he moved back to Dresden.
1035
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:47,420
And Dresden was the centre of power
for the art world in Nazi Germany.
1036
01:12:50,180 --> 01:12:53,220
He climbed up the career ladder
1037
01:12:53,220 --> 01:12:59,100
and became one of the
main art dealers to buy
1038
01:12:59,100 --> 01:13:03,740
art from all over Europe for
the planned Fuhrer Museum.
1039
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:10,220
This was Hitler's pet project,
though it never came to fruition.
1040
01:13:10,220 --> 01:13:13,500
This museum in his childhood
hometown of Linz was to
1041
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:17,980
display the wealth and grandeur
of the Thousand Year Reich.
1042
01:13:17,980 --> 01:13:21,660
The masterpieces of the whole
world - largely looted,
1043
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:24,100
or bought in exchange
for degenerate art.
1044
01:13:31,580 --> 01:13:35,060
But in February 1945,
Dresden too was bombed.
1045
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:40,740
The Russians were
advancing from the East.
1046
01:13:40,740 --> 01:13:43,540
Hildebrand Gurlitt fled.
1047
01:13:43,540 --> 01:13:47,220
Ironically, the Dresden bombing
saved the life of his neighbour,
1048
01:13:47,220 --> 01:13:49,180
Fritz Glaser.
1049
01:13:49,180 --> 01:13:52,020
It came just as he was
to be sent to Auschwitz.
1050
01:13:58,220 --> 01:14:01,460
The end of the war would prove
a false dawn for those whose
1051
01:14:01,460 --> 01:14:03,700
art had been plundered.
1052
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:07,260
Next week, in Sins of the Fathers,
we follow the trail
1053
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:10,100
of the lost art
and of Hildebrand Gurlitt.
1054
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:14,420
How did it happen that his son was
found 60 years later, holed up
1055
01:14:14,420 --> 01:14:17,500
with his father's treasure trove?
1056
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:19,820
TV: Nearly 1,500 priceless
paintings have been
1057
01:14:19,820 --> 01:14:22,460
discovered at a house in Germany...
1058
01:14:22,460 --> 01:14:24,980
The week after the story
broke, the Deputy Director
1059
01:14:24,980 --> 01:14:27,940
of The Belvedere Museum, in Vienna
said, "I don't know what all
1060
01:14:27,940 --> 01:14:31,540
"the fuss is about, everybody knows
about the Gurlitt art collection."
1061
01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:35,380
It indicated this huge division
that there is between those
1062
01:14:35,380 --> 01:14:39,620
people in the art world who know
where the bodies are buried.
1063
01:14:39,620 --> 01:14:43,500
And those people who've been
searching for their art for so long
1064
01:14:43,500 --> 01:14:47,140
who have no idea where it is and
nobody will tell them where it is.
1065
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:56,060
It's a story of complicity,
cover up and denial.
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