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Each one of us is made
from mere matter...
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..yet we are matter
with curiosity,
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we ask questions.
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And, in the private world
of our minds,
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one particular question burns...
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Why are we here?
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A scientific answer to this question
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may not be far away.
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MAN CHANTS
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If the existence of any one of us
is singled out
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the answer to the question
"Why are we here?"
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looks like pure chance.
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Like any particular individual,
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baby Shurik was born into this world
as the culmination
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of a chain
of apparent coincidences.
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A chain so long that,
at first sight,
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it looks highly improbable.
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The chance that a particular sperm
reached a particular egg...
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The chance that baby Shurik's
parents happened to meet...
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and their parents too...
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and generations of ancestors
before that.
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But don't stop there.
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The apparent coincidences go back
much further than that...
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..to our planet
and its position in space.
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We appear to live on a perfect
planet in a perfect universe.
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It feels as if it's been made
for us.
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The Earth orbits at just the right
distance around just the right star
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for the temperatures on its surface
to be just right
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to permit liquid water to exist.
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And those temperatures have remained
just right for four billion years,
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which is just the right amount
of time for us to have evolved.
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And this seeming luck
continues beyond our solar system.
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We live in a universe that's
expanding at just the right rate
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for stars and galaxies to form.
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And within those stars, the forces
of nature are just
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the right strength to allow them to
assemble the elements of life,
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carbon, oxygen and iron,
in their cores.
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If you trace it right back,
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the odds of YOU existing in this
universe don't just look small,
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they seem almost
infinitesimally small.
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Why are we here?
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Is our existence merely accidental?
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And if we are just happy accidents,
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then what about the universe?
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Is its form, its nature,
its very existence
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also accidental?
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And if that's the case,
what does it mean to you?
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Well, I think modern science is very
close to answering these questions
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and, in this film,
I want to tell you why I think that.
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WIND HOWLS
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Shankar is 12 years old
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and has lived at this school
since he was eight.
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He sees his parents only every
three months...
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But, to him, it's worth it
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because he has a singular life
ahead of him
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as a Hindu priest, or Brahman.
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Shankar is one of 40 students here,
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all of them
training for the Hindu priesthood.
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CHATTER AND LAUGHTER
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Their day follows a strict routine
starting at 5am.
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BELL CHIMES
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CHANTING
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Almost every day the students chant
between seven in the morning
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and seven at night.
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They're chanting Vedas,
ancient verses which date back
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4,000 years, containing
the poetry and myths
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on which Hinduism is based.
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BELL CHIMES
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These religious verses hold
some unexpected thoughts.
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They contain the concept of zero
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and they touch on the notion
of infinity.
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And they use mathematical concepts
such as Pi, square roots
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and Pythagoras' theorem.
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And, in one part of the Rig Veda
learned by the older boys,
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you can find a very
interesting thought.
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It addresses a crucial question
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about the formation of the universe.
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"The gods are later than creation."
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I think that's
a remarkable sentence.
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It displays real intellectual
rigour and honesty.
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It's obviously not a sufficiently
good answer to say,
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"Well, all this exists
because it was willed into existence
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"merely by some kind of deity."
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It's reasonable to then ask
the question,
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"Well, what's the origin of
the deity?
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"Has the deity existed forever,
has the universe existed forever?"
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So, I think, just seeing
signs of that...
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that kind of thinking which is
really what you might say
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the prerequisite or the first signs
of a scientific way of thinking.
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The scientific approach acknowledges
that if we're ever going to ask
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grand questions like
"Why are we here?"
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we have to begin with "how".
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In my view science
is a...a humble pursuit.
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It starts by asking very simple
questions, asks questions like,
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"Why is it that when you let
something go
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"it falls to the ground?"
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You let it go, it falls to
the ground again,
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falls to the ground again,
you observe regularities in nature,
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tiny, small regularities,
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and try and explain them
and model them, understand them.
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Through that process
we've been led to
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an intellectual framework
that maybe allows us
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to answer questions about the very
origin of reality itself.
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From the marketplace
to outer space,
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those regularities in nature can be
found almost everywhere you look.
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Galileo said nature is a book
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written in the language
of mathematics.
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And, the more you start
to look for that language,
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the more you see it...
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..everywhere.
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Rivers meander through the landscape
in a seemingly random way
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and if you just look at a few turns
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then they will be random.
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The river might change its course
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because of some geology,
a big rock formation.
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But if you look at a river
over a large length,
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say tens or hundreds of kilometres,
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then you see that the meanders
aren't quite random,
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a pattern emerges,
there's order there.
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This is the satellite picture
of the bend in the river,
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the meander you can see here,
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and the mathematical relationship,
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the pattern that we're
looking for, is this.
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If I measure the wavelength
of the meander,
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which is just the length
between the point
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where the river starts to turn
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and meanders up and then
meanders down and comes back again,
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you see it's around
11 centimetres on this map.
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And then if I measure the width
of the river at this point
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then it's something
like one centimetre,
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so the ratio of the wave length
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of the meander to the width of the
river, in this case, is about 11.
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Now, the interesting thing is that
if you take this whole river,
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so not just one bend
but hundreds of bends,
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you'll find that that ratio
is always somewhere
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between about 10 and 14.
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What's very interesting is
it's not just this river,
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this isn't a special river.
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If you look at any river
on the planet,
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no matter how small or wide,
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you'll find that it's always
somewhere between 10 and 14.
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There's obviously some
pattern there,
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it reflects something fundamental
about the way that fluids
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flow across the surface
of Planet Earth.
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And this rule can even be
seen on other planets.
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On Mars, the rivers have long
since dried up,
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but the arid river beds show
the same meandering pattern.
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And on Titan, the largest moon
of the planet Saturn,
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the rivers are made of methane
cutting through a bedrock of ice.
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But even here the same ratio
appears to exist.
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This rule seems to hold true
for every river
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found across the solar system.
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Order is hidden in everything,
from rivers, rocks and landscapes
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to living things,
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even the most exotic
and elusive of creatures.
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"In the days when everybody started
fair, Best Beloved,
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"the Leopard lived in a place
called the High Veldt.
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"The Giraffe and the Zebra
and the Eland and the Koodoo
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"and the Hartebeest lived there,
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"but the Leopard,
he was the 'sclusivest
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"sandiest-yellowish-brownest
of them all."
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Rudyard Kipling's Just So story,
How The Leopard Got Its Spots,
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tells the story of an Ethiopian man
who was the Leopard's friend,
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he used to go hunting
with the Leopard.
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And one day he noticed that
the Leopard wasn't being
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very successful, it had a plain,
sandy coat,
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whereas all the other animals
had camouflage.
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He said, "That's a trick worth
learning, Leopard."
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So he took his fingers and his thumb
and he pressed
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into the Leopard's coat to give it
that distinctive
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five-pointed camouflage pattern.
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So, in the absence of an Ethiopian
hunter present at the birth
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of every leopard, how did
the leopard get its spots?
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No-one disputes the reason
why leopards have spots,
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they evolved as camouflage.
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What's less obvious is how
the pattern appears on their coats.
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(WHISPERS) Oh, there, yeah, yeah.
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Let's have a look.
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Fantastic.
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He's ducked down into a little...
little valley.
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It's really interesting, the moment
you lose sight of the leopard
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then you turn round to see it again,
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it's very, very difficult
to find it.
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You've essentially got to wait
till it moves.
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It just shows you
the effectiveness of camouflage.
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How does that complex camouflage
emerge from the millions
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of separate cells
across the leopard's skin?
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Measure out...
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..a precise amount of indicator.
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Then I'm just going to add it in.
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It turns out that complex patterns
can emerge
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from simple ingredients.
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And, mix them up.
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Now, if I pour this
into this Petri dish...
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There, you see?
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And now can you see the colour
coming back,
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fading back in?
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It's not the usual chemical
reaction,
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you mix two things together, you get
a big bang or a cloud of blue smoke,
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which is what all chemists love.
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This reaction is continually
oscillating
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backwards and forwards.
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So we started with the simplest
of ingredients,
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mixed them together
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and they reacted in such a way
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that complexity,
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that pattern, emerged
from the underlying simplicity.
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A similar process
happens in living things.
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When the leopard
was still an embryo,
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it's thought that two competing
chemicals, washing over the skin,
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created the distinctive spots.
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So if you have a sandy background,
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then you can imagine
one of these chemicals
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that causes or stimulates
pigment to appear,
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so as it grows you get a dark spot.
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Where it's inhibited and drops
you return to the sandy background.
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It grows again, you get a dark spot
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and returns to the sandy background.
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The same principle is believed to
create the stripes of the tiger,
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the zebra and the sea snail,
to name just a few.
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Scientists get very excited
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when they discover
an explanation like this
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because it means we've understood
something much deeper about nature
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and that's that complexity masks
an underlying simplicity.
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All the intricacy that we
see across the natural world
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emerges from a few simple laws.
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The meander of a river
and a leopard's spots
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are just two examples
of patterns in nature,
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but there are countless more.
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By looking carefully
at the patterns in nature
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and trying to understand
their origin,
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that's what Copernicus and Kepler
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and Newton and Einstein and Galileo
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and Curie and Dirac and Feynman and
a thousand others have discovered.
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There are regularities in nature,
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there are patterns as far
as the eye can see,
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on every scale from atoms
to galaxies
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and those patterns are a reflection
of the simplicity and beauty
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of the underlying laws of nature.
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A blueprint for creation does exist,
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a scientific one.
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But how do the laws of physics
explain the existence
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of human beings?
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How, or why, did atoms come together
to form us in particular?
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The game of cricket is
unfathomable to some
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but to those who understand it
it's bewitching.
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I really love it,
I just can't express it...
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I...I don't express it in words.
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My dream is to play for India.
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This is what I've been aiming for
since my childhood.
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Today Subitu Bose and his team-mates
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are playing against rivals
Neerja Modi School.
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Cricket is based on a set of rules
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and they haven't altered
significantly since the 1800s.
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CHEERING
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But, despite the existence
of these rules,
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no match is ever predictable.
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Take, for instance, the ball.
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Climate makes a big difference
to its swing,
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dew picked up from wet grass
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or scuffing from dry ground...
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..not to mention how it's bowled.
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And then there's the bat.
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Each batsman has a preference
for a bat of a particular weight
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and that will affect his stroke.
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Not forgetting the temperament
of each player,
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the mood of the umpire
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and the mood of the crowd.
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When you get so many variables,
the number of possibilities
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becomes enormous
and yet all this complexity
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emerged from a set of fixed rules.
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A game of cricket is played out
according to a set of simple laws
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and so it is for the universe,
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and here are the laws
of the universe.
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This is the standard model of
particle physics
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and this is Einstein's General
Theory of Relativity
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and you can fit them
easily on a scorecard.
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And here are the laws of cricket
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and it has to be said,
at least in this notation,
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that cricket is more complicated
than the universe.
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But even given these simple laws,
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the number of ways that both games
can play out
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is effectively infinite.
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So the laws do not make
the outcome predictable.
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But all we really
care about is the outcome.
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In the case of the game
of cricket - who won?
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In the case of the game
of the universe - we exist.
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And for the cricket match,
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the result could have turned
on the tiniest,
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most insignificant little event,
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the way the ball gripped the pitch
and deflected off
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a couple of blades of grass,
clipped the edge of the bat
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and was caught
by the wicketkeeper.
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And it's the same for the universe.
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Some collision of two dust particles
ten billion years ago
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could have led to a chain of
seemingly insignificant,
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infinitesimally unlikely
little events
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that led to something that we care
deeply about.
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Our existence.
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Today the way the game of cricket
played out
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had an undesired outcome for Bose.
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The fielder caught my, er...
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caught the ball here.
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Had I have hit the ball
a little to the...
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to his left or right, it would
have gone to the boundary.
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But, sadly, it went straight
to the fielder.
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I was like, "Ahh...
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"What have I done?"
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Just like a game of cricket,
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the way the universe played out
to create us humans
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was not determined
by the rules alone.
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Chance played a part, too.
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This temple's over
a thousand years old,
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it's dedicated to
Lord Shiva the Destroyer
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and it's built
in the Tantric tradition,
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which is at least in part
a celebration of pleasure.
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But whilst I find some of these
suggestions instructive,
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that's not why we're here.
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We're here because of the location
of this temple.
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Because this temple is in the centre
of a crater, three kilometres wide.
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Geologists are still debating
what made it
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but it could well be
the scar left by a meteorite
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smashing into the Earth.
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Throughout its lifetime
the Earth has been
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constantly bombarded by objects
from space.
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Think about one particular
collision,
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the impact that probably wiped out
the dinosaurs 66 million years ago,
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and think about the history,
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the lifetime of that rock
that smashed into the Earth.
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Imagine one particular day
in the lifetime of that rock,
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on one orbit, perhaps billions
of years ago,
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when another rock,
no bigger than that,
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instead of missing it, hit it,
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smashed into it and changed
its orbit very, very slightly.
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And, over millions and
millions of orbits, that change
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would have got amplified,
until, perhaps, that day,
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66 million years ago, instead
of smashing into the Earth,
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the dinosaurs were looking up
at the sky
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and they saw a fireball
blaze across the sky
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and miss rather than hit.
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That would have changed history.
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In all probability the dinosaurs
would still be roaming
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the surface of the Earth today
and we probably wouldn't exist.
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But the rock DID strike,
the dinosaurs WERE wiped out,
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and purely by chance our human
existence became possible.
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And fateful accidents of equal
importance for our existence
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have also happened on a much
smaller scale.
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CAMEL GRUNTS
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In Pushkar they have quite
a tradition of camel racing.
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BRIAN CHUCKLES
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There's a saying, apparently,
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which is the camel
and its driver go their own way...
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..and there's the proof.
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Despite that, there's a surprising
similarity between camels and us.
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Now what I'm going to do is I'm
going to take a sample of my cells
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and a sample of the camel's cells.
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What's his name? Rapi. Rapi.
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Rapi? Yeah. Right.
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So to take my cell sample
is quite easy.
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I just have to...
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..rub that on the corner
of my cheek
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so there are my cheek cells
on there.
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I'm going to do the same now
to Rapi, but could you hold him,
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hold his mouth open?
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CAMEL GRUNTS
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Actually, you know what,
can I ask you to come?
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There's no way I'm going in there!
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Can you just rub that on his cheek?
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That...that's going to be
enough, that's plenty.
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That's plenty, yeah, and then
hand it over there.
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There we go!
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Right, thank you, thank you.
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I apologise.
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So now we've got a...
a sample of Rapi's cells
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and a sample of my cells
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and we'll make a comparison.
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I apologise again.
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So this is the slide
of my cheek cell.
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You see there it's stained blue.
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Quite small, but I can see
detail inside it.
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And this is a slide
of the camel's cheek cells.
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And the most obvious thing to say
is they look identical,
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impossible to tell them apart,
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and that's because for all intents
and purposes they are identical
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and that's because myself and
the camels over there are mammals.
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But...
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if you look more closely,
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then you see that the cells have
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many structures inside them.
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The most obvious feature
is the nucleus,
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where most of our DNA is stored.
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But you can also see
hundreds of little dots.
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Many of these structures
are called mitochondria.
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These are the power stations
found in the cells
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of every complex living thing.
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And, yet, once upon a time these
essential structures
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were separate,
free-living creatures.
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A long time ago,
two or three billion years ago,
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the Earth was populated
only by single-celled organisms,
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two great kingdoms of life,
the bacteria and the archaea,
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and, it has to be said,
things were pretty dull,
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there was nothing that we might call
complex and, in fact,
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very little happened.
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Those two single-celled things
just stayed the same
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for billions of years.
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But then one day, quite by accident,
everything changed.
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What many biologists believe to have
happened is that a bacterium
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got inside an archaean
and for some reason wasn't digested.
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Instead, a symbiotic
relationship began.
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The bacterium may have been
protected by the archaean
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while the archaean got access to the
energy generated by the bacterium.
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Once that cell had access to
the vast amounts of energy,
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the potential that the
internal bacterium gave it,
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then basically all hell broke loose.
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And that energy allowed the cell to
begin to work in larger colonies,
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to begin to build complex
living things.
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So the mitochondria in your cells
today are the descendants
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of that chance collision
billions of years ago.
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That singular event,
that fateful encounter,
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was purely accidental, but the cells
that it produced had such
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a survival advantage,
the energy made available to them
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by the mitochondria, that its effect
was amplified beyond imagination
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by natural selection, which is not
accidental and it is non-random.
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So it's the interaction
between accident and rules,
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chance heavily constrained
in the framework of natural laws,
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that led to the evolution
of humans here on the Earth.
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In our universe there was
no particular aim,
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no intention for us humans to exist.
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Instead the life of the universe
is just like a game of cricket...
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..where rules
and chance play out together...
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..and quite by accident happen to
produce a human universe.
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Over the course of centuries
we've worked to find
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the combination of rules and
accidents that made today's world.
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We now understand the laws of nature
so well
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that we have at least a reasonable
scientific understanding
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of every step in that chain,
from the present day
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to the first few moments after
the Big Bang, and that is a
tremendous achievement,
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it's the great achievement
of modern science.
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But just as the origin of the
gods themselves is
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questioned in the ancient
Hindu hymns and the Rigveda then
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so we are faced with a question,
a very profound question -
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who wrote the rules of the game,
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what is the origin of
the laws of nature?
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What is the origin
of the universe itself?
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What went before the Big Bang?
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It's a question that takes us
to another world entirely.
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A samurai sword is both sharp
and strong.
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Able to cut a body in half...
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..but precise enough to slice
through a single hair.
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Gassan Sadatoshi is
a master sword maker.
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His family have been making swords
for over 800 years.
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The first stage is to reduce the
carbon content of the raw material.
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If there's too little carbon
it'll be soft,
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but too much and it'll be brittle.
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This is all a remarkably
high-precision process,
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everything that they're doing
matters to make the perfect sword.
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And even the force
with which they hammer down matters,
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that helps set the precise
mixture of ingredients,
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and they're aiming for precisely
0.7% carbon in that steel.
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Repeated heating and layering mixes
the iron and carbon
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so the block is uniform.
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This process can take weeks.
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The final stage is to harden
the cutting edge of the sword,
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a process called quenching.
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In the case of a Japanese sword, if
you get all the ingredients right,
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the precise mixture
of iron and carbon,
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if you get the temperature right,
you get the hammering right,
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everything right, over a year,
then you get the perfect sword.
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Now, in the case of the universe
the ingredients aren't things
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like iron and carbon, of course, the
ingredients are a set of numbers,
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they're called constants of nature,
they're things like the strength
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of gravity, the speed of light
and the masses of the particles.
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And they also require precision.
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They have to be set in just
the right way
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if you want a universe
that supports life.
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In the same way that
a samurai sword would be weakened
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if the ingredients were different,
the universe might be unable
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to support life if the constants
of nature were somehow altered.
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Now, if I was some all-powerful
deity, which arguably I'm not,
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then I could imagine varying
all those constants of nature
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to see what happened.
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I could imagine some great big
control board with little
knobs on it.
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One of them changes the strength
of gravity, the next one changes
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the mass of the electron, the next
one changes the speed of light.
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And the question is how much
freedom do I have
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if I want living things to exist?
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The answer is, not very much
freedom at all.
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If at the Big Bang the strength
of gravity were increased
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then the universe would have
collapsed in on itself
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before life had time to evolve.
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But if the strength of gravity were
decreased then galaxies
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wouldn't form, so there'd be
no planets, no stars and no life.
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00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,560
If you decrease the speed of light
by just a few percent
494
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,600
our universe would have
no carbon in it.
495
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,880
Increase it by about the same amount
496
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,320
and our universe would have
no oxygen.
497
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:20,440
Because we have no idea why
the constants are the values
that they are
498
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,720
then we're presented
with something of a mystery, because
you can ask the question,
499
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:28,920
well, if it's just random, if indeed
the universe began and somehow
500
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:34,840
these random numbers got chosen,
then how lucky are we that we exist?
501
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,640
How lucky are we that we live in a
universe where those constants
502
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,240
are just right to allow
galaxies to from and stars to shine
503
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,720
and elements like carbon to form
in the hearts of stars?
504
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,080
So what could account for
the uncanny precision of this
set of numbers?
505
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,320
Hello, can I have just one? Yeah.
506
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,720
Thank you.
507
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,640
You know, our universe, with
all its beautiful laws of nature
508
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,000
and its finely tuned constants,
feels incredibly lucky.
509
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,360
I mean, it's like buying a lottery
ticket and winning the lottery,
510
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,120
but it's stranger than that,
because it's like winning
511
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,000
the lottery in which only one ticket
was ever printed.
512
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200
But that's of course not how
a lottery works.
513
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Yes, it is extremely unlikely that
I'll win the lottery
514
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,360
with this ticket, but there
are millions of tickets printed
515
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,680
so it's not surprising at all
that someone wins it.
516
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,440
So could we think of our universe
in the same way as the lottery?
517
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,800
The reason that we appear to
live in a perfect universe with
518
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,680
the perfect numbers,
the perfect constants of nature,
519
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,720
the perfect laws, is because there
are in fact countless millions,
520
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:48,520
perhaps an infinite number
of universes, each with different
521
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:53,000
physical laws, different numbers,
different constants of nature.
522
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,240
Then we shouldn't be so surprised to
live in the perfect universe.
523
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:59,240
It's like the lottery - somebody's
got to get the right ticket,
524
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:00,960
somebody's got to win it.
525
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,760
Just as the lottery has many
tickets,
526
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,320
each bearing different numbers...
527
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,600
..so there may be many universes,
528
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,880
each with different values for
the constants of nature.
529
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,000
Universes with stronger or weaker
gravity,
530
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,520
slower light or faster light.
531
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,760
Now, that might make sense
mathematically
532
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,640
but is it really
a sensible suggestion,
533
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,400
an infinite number of universes?
534
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,560
What does that mean for reality?
535
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,480
Miyake Jima island.
536
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:21,360
3,000 people live here,
making a living from the sea.
537
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,440
But it's a precarious
place to call home.
538
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,280
Because this entire island is
an active volcano.
539
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,840
Occasionally it belches forth
scorching lava that
540
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,600
incinerates anything that
stands in its way.
541
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,240
Until an eruption in 1983,
this was the island's school.
542
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:32,360
But volcanism doesn't just destroy,
it also creates.
543
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,520
Around 30,000 years ago this
whole island emerged
544
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,600
from the vast emptiness of
the North Pacific Ocean.
545
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,720
And it's not just this island, it's
the whole of the Izu Archipelago
546
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:59,560
and much of Japan.
547
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,160
All of these islands have risen up
548
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,080
out of the ocean,
seemingly from nothing.
549
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,840
And it's even happening right now.
550
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,240
This island, called Nishinoshima,
has been growing steadily
551
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,400
since it suddenly
appeared in November 2013.
552
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,320
If we didn't know better, we might
ascribe that creation
553
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,800
to the act of the gods,
but we do know better
554
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,920
because we know about geology,
we've done some science,
555
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,840
so we know that the origin of
this island is volcanism.
556
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,640
It comes from the inner heat of the
Earth, which is itself a leftover
557
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:57,840
from the history of its formation
4½ billion years ago.
558
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,040
So we have a mechanism
for the creation of new land.
559
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,760
Contrast that with the scientific
explanation for the origin
560
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,960
of the most important thing of all,
the origin of the universe itself,
561
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,440
and for decades
we've been happy to say
562
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,680
the universe began at the Big Bang
563
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,400
and it's almost as if we're
not to ask what happened before.
564
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,800
There was nothing before,
565
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,440
there's no scientific mechanism to
explain how the Big Bang occurred.
566
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,080
But there are now plausible
theories that provide
567
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,680
a mechanism for how universes might
be made from apparently nothing.
568
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,680
So what is this magical
theory that explains
569
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,880
the origin of the universe,
and how did we find it?
570
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,440
Well, the answer is it's a theory
called inflation,
571
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,240
and really the clues
to the theory were there all along,
572
00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,040
we just had to look for it.
573
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,640
They lie in the rules of the game.
574
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,720
If there's one basic rule
it's this - things have to happen.
575
00:53:07,720 --> 00:53:11,000
Nothing, emptiness,
is about the only thing that's
576
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,040
forbidden by the rules of
quantum mechanics.
577
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,720
Before our universe
became filled with
578
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:29,760
particles of matter, it wasn't
empty, it was filled with energy,
579
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:35,880
and like the surface of the sea it
was constantly fluctuating, rippling
580
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,360
with a form of energy that causes
space to expand exponentially fast.
581
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,920
At the trough of one of the waves,
the energy driving
582
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,480
the expansion
fell below a certain level.
583
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,520
So that region stopped inflating and
the energy was transformed
584
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,480
into the recognisable particles
of today's universe.
585
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,920
And that transformation is what we
see as the Big Bang,
586
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,760
the birth of
our observable universe.
587
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,360
The theory of inflation
is extraordinary
588
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,400
and extraordinary claims
require extraordinary evidence.
589
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,120
Well, here is
the extraordinary evidence.
590
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,920
This is a photograph of
the oldest light in the universe
591
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:34,360
and it's got many intricate
and detailed properties.
592
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,080
The most obvious one is that
it's an extremely uniform glow,
593
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:41,560
it's almost all at the same
temperature.
594
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,160
This and all the other properties
of this ancient light are best
595
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,920
explained by an inflationary
expansion of the early universe.
596
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,840
No-one has thought of any theory
that can reproduce this
597
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,560
other than inflation,
598
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,600
and that is why I love physics.
599
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,640
Isn't that remarkable?
600
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400
But, just like the formation
of islands or any other
601
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:19,760
mechanism in nature, inflation
needn't stop at one universe.
602
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,160
Why should it?
603
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,920
The process of inflation could be
going on eternally,
604
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,120
always making universes, even now.
605
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,640
And each one of these universes
606
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,240
could be like a ticket
in a lottery...
607
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,560
..bearing different numbers for
constants of nature...
608
00:55:56,120 --> 00:56:00,080
..such as the strength of gravity
or the speed of light.
609
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,080
So amongst them all...
610
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,320
there has to be a winning ticket.
611
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,760
A human universe.
612
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,520
It's absolutely inevitable.
613
00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:40,360
If the theory of inflation is
correct, it explains
614
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:44,480
how our universe appeared
apparently from nothing.
615
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,680
And it also strongly suggests that
there's not just our universe
616
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,840
but a vast number,
perhaps even an infinity of them.
617
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Now we've known for a long time
that we're infinitesimal specks
618
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:33,160
in a vast universe,
but now the suggestion is that
619
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,240
we're infinitesimal specks
in a vast infinity of universes.
620
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,320
Our current best theory for
the origin of the universe,
621
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,520
backed up by experimental evidence,
suggests that there are an infinite
622
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:54,120
number of universes, an infinite
number of copies of you and me,
623
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:59,000
and that the existence of the
whole thing is inevitable.
624
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:05,240
No purpose, nothing special,
you are because you have to be.
625
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,480
How does that make you feel?
626
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:11,920
Well, the wonderful
thing is nobody knows,
627
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:16,840
nobody's worked it out yet,
so the answer is up to you.
628
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:19,440
What do you think?
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