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in California the worst measles outbreak
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in 15 years is spreading virus is
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roaring back into the headlines tonight
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an outbreak somehow traced to someone
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who had probably caught measles abroad
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visited Disneyland
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and may have sneezed measles on the
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march in America this outbreak is
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showing no signs of letting up there are
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already more cases this year number
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tripled to 644 measles cases reported in
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27 states I mean is this all basically
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because of the anti-vaccination movement
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because parents aren't vaccinating their
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kids yeah you know I think so a bill
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that would ban exemptions from childhood
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vaccines is advancing through the
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California Legislature we are offering
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legislation though abolish the personal
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belief exemption I think you're starting
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to see why it is that mandates are so
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important there has been some inaccurate
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information circular circulating about
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vaccines mostly stemming from a British
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study linking vaccines to autism still
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continued here the vaccine cause autism
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even though that's been debunked
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repeatedly and thoroughly debunked you
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may have heard vaccination causes autism
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and one out of a hundred and ten
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children fuck that total bullshit
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doesn't the bill requiring children to
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be vaccinated has passed with bipartisan
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support every child must meet
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immunization standards before joining
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public schools private schools and
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daycares I would strongly encourage
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everybody look at the science look at
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the facts CDC the Center for Disease
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Control can give you good information
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get your children vaccinated I have
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waited a long time to tell my story and
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I want to tell the truthfully I was
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involved in deceiving millions of
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taxpayers regarding the potential
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negative side effects of vaccines he
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lied about the scientific findings
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the CDC can no longer be trusted to do
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vaccine safety work can't be trusted to
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be transparent
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the CDC can't be trusted to police
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itself just a few thoughts
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William W Thompson senior scientist US
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Centers for Disease Control and
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Prevention
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hello
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but was sitting at my desk where I teach
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at Simpson University my phone rings and
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it's dr. William Thompson very well I
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don't know how this is all gonna play
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out
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you have a son with autism and I have
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great shame now when I meet families
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with kids with autism because I I have
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been part of the problem my son Steven
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was born in February of 1998 two weeks
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after his 15 month vaccines then he lost
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all language he lost all eye contact
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he'd pick him up and he would just hang
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limp this is a time where CDC was just
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starting to do these studies on vaccines
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and autism as a scientist I have over 60
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technical and scientific publications in
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major international scientific journals
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and I was contacting the CDC and was
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deeply critical of their studies and so
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the CDC decided that the scientist who
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was going to interface with me at that
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time was dr. William Thompson because I
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was on his back because he didn't like
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what I was saying about the statistics I
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received a letter from a CDC attorney in
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2004 saying that I was no longer
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permitted to contact the CDC fast
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forwarding to 2014 Thompson said to me
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Brian if you listen to me and if you do
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what I tell you to do I can guarantee
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you will be able to access a treasure
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trove of data and I would like to guide
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you through these steps
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so I want it to be researched I want to
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be valuable to you I want you to have
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someone in the system for years I had
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been trying to crack this edifice of the
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CDC and just getting little glimpses of
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what was not right the CDC has put the
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research ten years behind because the
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CDC has not been transparent we've
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missed 10 years of research because the
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CDC is so paralyzed right now by
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anything related to autism I am a
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licensed clinical psychologist and a
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board certified behavior analyst in 1978
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I want to say the prevalence of autism
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was about 1 in 15,000 children it was a
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very rare disorder I was working at a
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clinic at UCLA which was pretty much the
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only known Center for treating children
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with autism and we had maybe six to ten
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children who we were working with
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somewhere around the early 90s shortly
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after I opened card the growth of autism
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has been so high and so rapid that I've
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never felt like I could ever catch up
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anymore from a official diagnostic
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perspective the way that we define
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autism we were looking at deficits in
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two areas the first is social
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communication and social interaction and
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in that area we require three specific
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symptoms to be present symptoms such as
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no social emotional reciprocity no
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nonverbal communication that means eye
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contact for instance or no development
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of relationships
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the second required area of deficit is
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the presence of stereotypic repetitive
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restricted behaviors and these are
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things my
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hands flapping body rocking insistence
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on routines being the same one of the
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new additions is the the presence of a
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sensory dysregulation if a child has an
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inability to sense things correctly not
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necessarily hearing things the way we do
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that could be classified as a symptom of
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autism so if you have five symptoms - in
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the area of repetitive behaviors and
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three in the area of social
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communication deficit then you will get
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a classification of what's called autism
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spectrum disorder ASD we begin though as
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always keeping them on it breaking news
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tonight just hours ago the british
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medical journal BMJ did something
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extremely rare for a scientific journal
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it accused a researcher andrew wakefield
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of outright fraud I got a call on the
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19th of May 1995 from a mother telling
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me the story of her child
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his regression into autism following a
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vaccine and I said how can I help you I
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know nothing about autism you've come
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through to the wrong number and she said
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no doctor my child has terrible
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gastrointestinal issues and no one will
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take them seriously I was an academic
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gastroenterologist doing research with a
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particular interest in Crohn's disease
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and ulcerative colitis inflammatory
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bowel disease I knew nothing whatsoever
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about autism when I was at medical
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school it was so rare we weren't all
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about it we heard a succession of
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stories which were very very similar
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medicine is about pattern recognition
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and there was a clear pattern emerging
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so we decided a group of us including
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the world's leading pediatric
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gastroenterologist at the time led by
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Professor John Walker Smith decided that
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these children merited thorough
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investigation well dr. Wakefield has
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been shown used absolutely fraudulent
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data
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he created a fake paper the journal
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allowed it to run all the other studies
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were done showed no connection
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whatsoever again and again and again so
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it's an absolute lie that has killed
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thousands of kids and what we discovered
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and reported for the first time was this
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link between what appeared to be a novel
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type of intestinal inflammation and
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autistic regression in previously
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developmentally normal children and
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among those the majority had regressed
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into autism according to their parents
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following the measles mumps rubella
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vaccine
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it wasn't our place to censor their
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story because maybe uncomfortable for
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Public Health our job was to report that
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story accurately in order that it might
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lead to further investigation and the
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paper explicitly said this paper does
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not prove an association between MMR
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vaccine and the syndrome described more
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work is needed to resolve this issue
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that was the conclusion of the paper as
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an investigative medical journalist I've
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spent the last seven years working on
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one of the best medical talk shows in
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the world we know in medicine that there
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have been many many studies proving that
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vaccines do not cause autism but the
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problem I have always had with that is
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thousands and thousands of parents all
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telling the same story my child got a
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vaccine usually the MMR vaccine and then
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that night or the next day broke out a
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fever and then when they came out of the
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fever lost speech lost the ability to
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walk basically regressed into what we
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know as autism and never came back
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doctors used to be told to listen to the
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patient that was the cornerstone of
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medicine as we know it but something's
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changed where the patient doesn't know
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what they're talking about and these
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parents with their story of their
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children have just been written off as
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though they have no idea what's really
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going on with their child I have two
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kids and anyone that has children knows
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that when we first have babies we are
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overly sensitive to every little hiccup
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every cough every sniffle so to say that
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a parent was just unaware that their
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child had issues and suddenly they
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realized at one year later that all they
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have autism that doesn't make sense to
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me and so I wanted to look into this
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story and find out what is this
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disconnect between medicine science and
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real parents
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I couldn't wait to be a mom I remember
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specifically before we even got married
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talking about how important children
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would be in our lives
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I wanted a daughter first and I wanted a
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son and we were planning on having four
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children we were going to be the most
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perfect parents that we could be Bella
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was born and that was a wonderful
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experience
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angelic perfect child hit all her
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milestones I got pregnant with Billy
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quite quickly Claire let's say hello to
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Billy we've now got a beautiful girl a
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beautiful boy and dice is just amazing
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so two four and six months Billy had his
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normal baby vaccines a little bit
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Snively chesty coldy after maybe the
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last one so me in my perfect mother mode
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rush to the doctor you know eating okay
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don't give him anything yes you need to
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give them antibiotics just to make sure
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there's not an infection in that it
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didn't clear up rushing back to the
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doctor he needs more antibiotics let's
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just keep this going in him and I
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remember my mother calling out my
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mother's of homeopathic hippie and
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calling out saying what are you doing
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chucking loads of antibiotics danielson
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for what I'm saying to a month with all
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due respect you're an artist and their
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daughters so they know best he was
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Jewish MMR vaccinations at 12 months so
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the morning exactly to the day my friend
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she said to me listen I've heard that
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there may be a problem with this vaccine
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about take Billy for me in the mouth
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what is the matter with you if there was
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a problem with vaccination it would be
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headline news the doctor would be
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calling me up saying do not bother
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coming in this is not a safe acting none
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of that is happening you're being
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negative you're being careless and
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you're listening to what some rumor that
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you heard somewhere Billy could become
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deaf if I don't take him in now you get
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in the center you know most of the
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evidence linking measles with autism is
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kind of settled down and most of the
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doctors and scientists agree that it
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probably isn't the major cause I've been
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working in Pediatrics for almost 20
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years
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I think most pediatricians view vaccines
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as their the number one thing they do
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for kids I'm young enough to not
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remember the days of kids in an iron
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lung because they were battling polio
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you know polio has essentially been
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eradicated from this country in 98 the
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the Wakefield study came out my son had
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just been born that study kind of
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pointed a finger at the MMR as a parent
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I was scared to give the MMR to my son
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and as a matter of fact we I didn't give
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it to him on time because I wanted to
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see I wanted to see what additional
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studies would show and overtime
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additional studies did show that no no
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it's safe and so he did get the the
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vaccine you know if everybody stopped
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vaccinating we'd be going back to the
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dark ages
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when a CDC scientists who'd been there
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at that time 17 years
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tells you this is how you access data it
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didn't take me very long to realize oh I
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better do what he says because he knows
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what he's talking about I just want to
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tell you one thing right now I'm sitting
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in a very pretty position in terms of
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providing you a lot of information he
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asked me what what data sets are you
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getting requests and I said well I'm
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gonna request two of the studies that
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you've done on Tamera saw the mercury
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containing preservative that's used in
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some of the vaccines and he said well
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that's fine but I want you to request
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the MMR data set first and this is the
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study by Frank de Stefano and his
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colleagues in 2004 it was the one study
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where we could end up creating a mess
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while the CDC tried to soothe you know
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tried to sort out something they
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couldn't understand today penny got the
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MMR was a living nine that's what saved
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my life to be on this video I came in
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and I saw him lying in his cot listless
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he started this uncontrollable shaking
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uncontrollable shaking imagine coming
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out of a frozen moment shaking like this
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and I remember she grasped him and held
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him really tight to her chest
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who the media fear and we get to
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hospital we wash him in doctors are
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coming in and looking at him that's when
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they said he's had a reaction he's had a
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seizure this is normal this is common
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for many many children you have this
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this vaccination it's absolutely okay
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he's going to be fine nobody ever told
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me that there would be any side effect
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to any of the vaccinations my children
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had
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following his febrile convulsion that he
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had the same day of the MMR we were told
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to take him home the night he seemed he
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seemed just very very sleepy
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finally didn't really ever wake up she
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the Billy that we had before
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for me it became really necessary to
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start looking at what types of medical
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issues are these children going through
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what are the other factors that have
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affected them that have brought them to
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this level of symptomology that we call
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autism this is now probably the mid 90s
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I came to notice that there was a very
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high use of antibiotics amongst these
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children but B what became pretty
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interesting was seeing the number of
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families who were reporting that their
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child had a regressive type of behavior
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occurred right after their vaccinations
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a lot of these parents were showing me
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footage of their children who had been
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completely developing normally until 18
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months and then all of a sudden post
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vaccination had developed incredible
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regression children who had speech
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anywhere close to fifty to a hundred
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words and have completely lost all of
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their words children who were extremely
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attached and interactive with their
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parents and had suddenly become isolated
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no longer responding to their own name
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this was all happening right after their
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MMR vaccines
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my oldest son Ian was born normal
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developing normally he was this
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beautiful boy and we ended up at our
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12-month visit which is this one year
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then they gave him multiple vaccines at
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once and within seven days he had a
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hundred and four fever and a rash all
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over his body he had previously been
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noted and in our videos home videos that
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he was walking and actually running at
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that point seven days after the vaccine
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he was no longer able to do that
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was falling down he became a really sick
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sick little boy so the question for
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those of us investigating autism his age
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of exposure to MMR a risk for autism and
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in order to understand why that might be
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you have to understand something of the
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history of MMR vaccine in 1987 there was
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an MMR vaccine that was being used in
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Canada produced by SmithKline Beecham
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and that vaccine caused meningitis it
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was recognized quickly and that vaccine
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was withdrawn in Canada however in the
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same month that it was withdrawn in
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Ontario it was licensed in the UK the
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name was simply changed from tri verax
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to plethoric s-- in the UK it was used
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for four years and likewise it caused
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meningitis and had to be rapidly
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withdrawn it was a public outcry there
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was an acute loss of confidence by the
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public in vaccine policymakers and the
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vaccine should at that point have been
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destroyed
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it wasn't it was then shipped to
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developing countries like Brazil where
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it was used in a mass vaccination
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campaign and there was an epidemic of
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meningitis it was entirely predictable
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now scientists studied that epidemic and
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what they found is that the risk for
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meningitis was associated with age of
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exposure the younger you got the MMR
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vaccine and the greater the risk of
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meningitis for people like me
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investigating autism the question was is
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there a similar risk in autism his age
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of exposure to MMR a risk for autism
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just as it was for meningitis we shared
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with the US Congress and the CDC the
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hypothesis the story has told to us at
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which we have an obligation to report is
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that the majority of children regressed
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following a period of normal development
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in the face of MMR vaccination that does
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not mean it is the cause of the disease
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the institute of medicine is a body of
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scientists and physicians that review
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the available data on back
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safety and then advise our government on
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vaccine research policy
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well because Annie Wakefield had put
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forth this theory that the age of which
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you received the MMR may increase your
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risk of autism the IOM looked to the CDC
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to do that very study it was a study
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about timing does the earlier you
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receive the MMR vaccine increased the
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risk of autism when we talk about the
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MMR study nobody had ever requested
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those data because it was a big secret
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that you can do it Thompson told me to
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email such and such a person and then on
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the inside I also found out that one of
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the people preparing these data sets for
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me was Bill Thompson they don't really
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want people to know that this data
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exists again you know I just can't
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believe we actually got you that data
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Thompson couldn't send these documents
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directly to Brian hooker because that
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would have been illegal or Thompson
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identified was a legal loophole that is
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referred to as a citizen's request that
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allowed Thomason to deliver to Brian
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hooker potentially classified
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information in a legal way
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you get checked in England with your
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babies at certain times health by health
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visitors to nine months Billy had his
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full-blown check and it says no parental
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concerns baby laughing babbling talking
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so we passed that with flying colors
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18 months is when they next come in and
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by this time we know there's something
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seriously wrong with Betty probably
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within five or six days the first signs
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really was this vacancy he wasn't the
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same smiley little baby that he was
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before he had a blank expression then
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the diarrhea kicked in his tummy started
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to get bigger and bigger bloated look
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hard bloated tummy he would start to
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walk on tiptoes his hair fell out with
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dreadful high pitch scream sort of whiny
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scream developed from him and then came
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the head bang the constant banging
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against his crypt the constant banging
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against the floor or a wall or anything
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that he could find to bang his head on
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he would thrash it and thrash it John
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and I would lie in bed at night just
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listening to this thud thud thud thud
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there's nothing he's now not even
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noticing his sister who used to play
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with John comes through the front door
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after work no recognition that we were
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his parents or this child even belong to
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us nothing nothing I mean that was the
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time where a boy changed from what he
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was to a real tragic tragic case of
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child who regressed into this autistic
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state and lost everything lost
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everything
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the CDC the way that they do research
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studies is very reactionary they look at
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something that's creating impress and
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creating a buzz that could actually
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lower vaccination race and that's what
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they study they don't study vaccines
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proactively so if Andy had never done
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his original study gotten that published
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and a Lancet would have never created
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the uproar that rightfully it should
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have created then a CDC would have never
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studied this the press conference for
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The Lancet paper was called by the Dean
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of the Medical School who was the
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chairman of the media committee I had
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done an extensive research into measles
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vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety in
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the pre licensing phase in other words
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what safety studies had been done before
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these vaccines were put onto the market
533
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and in to children the 250 page report
534
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was compiled by me showing that the
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vaccine safety studies for MMR in
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particular were lamentable they were
537
00:26:41,769 --> 00:26:45,909
lamentable there many many assumptions
538
00:26:43,599 --> 00:26:48,369
have been made about the safety of this
539
00:26:45,909 --> 00:26:52,960
vaccine and there had been problems
540
00:26:48,369 --> 00:26:55,798
which had been airbrushed so I wrote to
541
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my colleagues and the Dean and I said
542
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going forward there are going to be
543
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questions about what parents should do
544
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next I cannot in new conscience support
545
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the continued use of the MMR vaccine
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having done this research I said I will
547
00:27:06,638 --> 00:27:11,678
continue to vigorously support the use
548
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of the single vaccine but can no longer
549
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:17,259
support the use of the triple MMR
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vaccine so the Dean as chairman of that
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00:27:17,259 --> 00:27:23,259
committee had three choices he could
552
00:27:19,269 --> 00:27:25,950
have not had a press conference he could
553
00:27:23,259 --> 00:27:28,230
have banned me from the press conference
554
00:27:25,950 --> 00:27:31,350
or when the question came up as
555
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:33,240
inevitably it would what the parents do
556
00:27:31,349 --> 00:27:35,579
next about vaccinating their children
557
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,470
he knew what my response would be he
558
00:27:35,579 --> 00:27:40,379
could deflect the question to someone
559
00:27:37,470 --> 00:27:54,029
else when the question came up on the
560
00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:56,730
day he directed it straight to me all I
561
00:27:54,029 --> 00:27:59,490
recommended at that press conference was
562
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the parents opted for the use of the
563
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single vaccines single measles single
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mumps
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00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:09,240
single rubella until the issue had been
566
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resolved scientifically what happened
567
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,470
when I made that recommendation
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00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,289
unilateral decisions were made by the
569
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government in the UK to withdraw the
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importation license for the single
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vaccines Merck opting in the u.s. to
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cease the production of the single
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00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:27,509
vaccines giving parents no option I said
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to a senior representative of the
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Department of Health why if your
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00:28:29,670 --> 00:28:33,900
objective is to protect children against
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00:28:31,589 --> 00:28:35,970
serious infectious disease why would you
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00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:38,550
take away the option of how parents do
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00:28:35,970 --> 00:28:41,640
that and she said because if we allow
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00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:44,190
parents the choice of single vaccines it
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00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,040
would destroy our MMR program in other
582
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words the concern was for the protection
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of the program over and above the
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protection of children
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no one's career has ever been advanced
586
00:28:57,369 --> 00:29:02,559
in the medical industrial complex by
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being outwardly and openly critical of
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the vaccine industry I'm mark
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blacksville father of a daughter
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00:29:07,380 --> 00:29:13,240
diagnosed with autism back in 1998 I've
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written two books that have come out of
592
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:19,480
the autism movement have been projected
593
00:29:15,730 --> 00:29:22,630
into autism advocacy ever since Mikkel
594
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was born typical everything was fine was
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developing normally through her first
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birthday we had vivid memories of you
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know early language joint attention lots
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00:29:30,309 --> 00:29:36,970
of play she was adorable beautiful cute
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and then somewhere in the months after
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she began to slip away and she lost
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00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:45,670
language and she began to retreat into a
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world of her own and at two years nine
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00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:52,800
months we got a formal diagnosis of full
604
00:29:49,930 --> 00:29:55,810
syndrome autism it was a hopeless
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00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:57,639
pessimistic future that was laid out in
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00:29:55,809 --> 00:29:58,450
front of us she was gonna be disabled
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00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,500
for the rest of her life
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likely to be non-vocal in an institution
609
00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:08,529
and that the best thing we could do was
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to accept the inevitable part of the
611
00:30:08,529 --> 00:30:15,819
story we heard from the Harvard experts
612
00:30:11,049 --> 00:30:18,460
was autism was genetic it was low and
613
00:30:15,819 --> 00:30:20,439
relatively constant prevalence the more
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I learned the more clear that was that
615
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that whole Orthodox view was false
616
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completely false
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revolutions only happen in science when
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00:30:27,009 --> 00:30:31,839
there is an anomaly an anomaly that the
619
00:30:29,559 --> 00:30:33,849
older orthodoxy can't explain with
620
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:35,799
autism the anomaly was the explosion in
621
00:30:33,849 --> 00:30:37,379
cases which meant that what people were
622
00:30:35,799 --> 00:30:39,940
trying to describe as a genetic
623
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neurologically based condition couldn't
624
00:30:39,940 --> 00:30:43,720
be genetic it could only be
625
00:30:41,859 --> 00:30:45,789
environmental it could only be some set
626
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,250
of things that it happened to children
627
00:30:45,789 --> 00:30:55,539
and you had to ask the question what
628
00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:58,299
might it have been one of my personal
629
00:30:55,539 --> 00:31:01,450
training clients was the director of
630
00:30:58,299 --> 00:31:03,839
programs for LWT London Weekend
631
00:31:01,450 --> 00:31:07,740
Television this guy said why don't you
632
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:08,970
program and people that there may May
633
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:11,099
there may be someone out there with this
634
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:13,950
condition he said this is gonna be an
635
00:31:11,099 --> 00:31:16,259
unbelievable story nothing to lose right
636
00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:17,580
now this child is either gonna kill
637
00:31:16,259 --> 00:31:20,009
himself cause he's gonna smash his head
638
00:31:17,579 --> 00:31:22,408
to pieces or we're gonna go insane
639
00:31:20,009 --> 00:31:27,710
because everybody here is miserable
640
00:31:22,409 --> 00:31:31,169
that program was aired and we received
641
00:31:27,710 --> 00:31:33,058
250,000 email hits computers what kind
642
00:31:31,169 --> 00:31:35,250
of knew then the whole internet can do
643
00:31:33,058 --> 00:31:36,690
to think ours crashed we'd set up a
644
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:38,159
Billy told me website just in case
645
00:31:36,690 --> 00:31:40,919
somebody one person might be able to
646
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:43,820
help us crashed the television stations
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00:31:40,919 --> 00:31:46,140
computers crashed they had never seen
648
00:31:43,819 --> 00:31:48,898
anything like this before
649
00:31:46,140 --> 00:31:52,528
the parents had exactly the same story
650
00:31:48,898 --> 00:31:56,308
as us antibiotics summer chickenpox a
651
00:31:52,528 --> 00:31:59,609
lot vaccine bang the symptoms all of the
652
00:31:56,308 --> 00:32:05,519
same the diarrhea the constipation the
653
00:31:59,609 --> 00:32:08,189
hype pitch scream story and it was
654
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:10,528
paulie's idea to put all of this stuff
655
00:32:08,190 --> 00:32:14,370
together in a magazine called autism
656
00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:16,980
file that's all of the questions and
657
00:32:14,369 --> 00:32:19,319
maybe someone can help these questions
658
00:32:16,980 --> 00:32:22,140
from these parents were not being
659
00:32:19,319 --> 00:32:25,200
answered by the doctors that they went
660
00:32:22,140 --> 00:32:28,080
to see they came to us out of
661
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:32,330
desperation and we had 45,000
662
00:32:28,079 --> 00:32:32,329
subscribers within four months
663
00:32:33,690 --> 00:32:40,660
when I originally got the MMR autism
664
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:43,629
data I came up with my own analysis plan
665
00:32:40,660 --> 00:32:46,060
and I step through logically and
666
00:32:43,630 --> 00:32:46,990
systematically how the data should have
667
00:32:46,059 --> 00:32:51,009
been approached
668
00:32:46,990 --> 00:32:54,700
I looked first of all at males versus
669
00:32:51,009 --> 00:32:56,829
females then I looked at black males the
670
00:32:54,700 --> 00:33:00,220
relative risk of them receiving an
671
00:32:56,829 --> 00:33:02,230
autism diagnosis was astronomical it was
672
00:33:00,220 --> 00:33:05,319
highly statistically significant I
673
00:33:02,230 --> 00:33:07,630
really had to scratch my head and say I
674
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:10,839
know nothing about the MMR vaccine and
675
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:16,240
so that's when I originally called handi
676
00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:17,769
Wow really after everything that had
677
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,900
happened everything we'd all been
678
00:33:17,769 --> 00:33:22,960
through everything that the families had
679
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:25,120
suffered for the last 15 years and the
680
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:29,220
CDC had known all along
681
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:31,299
there was this MMR autism risk as I
682
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:33,160
started to divulge more the
683
00:33:31,299 --> 00:33:38,589
conversations and I think it really hit
684
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:41,380
him that this was a major crack in the
685
00:33:38,589 --> 00:33:43,869
wall of the CDC the first thing that
686
00:33:41,380 --> 00:33:46,780
Thompson did was the plot a graph a
687
00:33:43,869 --> 00:33:50,109
graph of percentage of children
688
00:33:46,779 --> 00:33:53,349
vaccinated against age at first MMR
689
00:33:50,109 --> 00:33:54,909
vaccination the children with autism are
690
00:33:53,349 --> 00:33:56,980
represented by the pink line the
691
00:33:54,910 --> 00:33:59,920
children without autism by the blue line
692
00:33:56,980 --> 00:34:02,110
now if there's no link between early MMR
693
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:04,539
and autism those two lines should track
694
00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:07,659
together whatever the age at first MMR
695
00:34:04,539 --> 00:34:10,690
and they do track together until they
696
00:34:07,660 --> 00:34:13,050
get to 15 months then they separate and
697
00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:16,630
they continue to separate thereafter
698
00:34:13,050 --> 00:34:19,240
this was their first indication that MMR
699
00:34:16,630 --> 00:34:21,519
vaccine was causing autism and that
700
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,599
finding alone ROC Thompson back on his
701
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:28,418
heels this was a huge issue for Andy so
702
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,789
I said to Brian Brian are you recording
703
00:34:28,418 --> 00:34:33,159
these conversations recording phone
704
00:34:30,789 --> 00:34:35,469
conversations was not really palatable
705
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:38,079
to me on almost seemed cruel whistle
706
00:34:35,469 --> 00:34:41,099
those can disappear as easily as they
707
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:45,389
came they're like a fish on a hook and
708
00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:45,389
your job is to get them into the boat
709
00:34:49,190 --> 00:34:53,929
simple walked at 12 months so he had
710
00:34:51,409 --> 00:34:56,079
been walking for an entire month before
711
00:34:53,929 --> 00:34:58,909
he went in for the next set of
712
00:34:56,079 --> 00:35:02,090
vaccinations the minute we walked into
713
00:34:58,909 --> 00:35:05,779
the pediatric office Lu his twin she
714
00:35:02,090 --> 00:35:07,850
screaming her head off I mean she knows
715
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:10,580
what's going on she doesn't want the
716
00:35:07,849 --> 00:35:12,619
doctor touching her I look up and there
717
00:35:10,579 --> 00:35:15,679
she's got the shots lined up three for
718
00:35:12,619 --> 00:35:18,980
him three for her by the second shot
719
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:21,849
Lucinda had flipped herself over so I
720
00:35:18,980 --> 00:35:24,710
had to stop looking at what I was doing
721
00:35:21,849 --> 00:35:26,150
unstrap her get her out wait a minute I
722
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:29,090
get her out and I calm her down a little
723
00:35:26,150 --> 00:35:32,660
bit and I look over he's screaming I
724
00:35:29,090 --> 00:35:35,269
look at the shots and I noticed that one
725
00:35:32,659 --> 00:35:38,329
of hers was gone there are only two
726
00:35:35,269 --> 00:35:40,489
shots left for her and I asked the the
727
00:35:38,329 --> 00:35:43,130
nurse practitioner I said what happened
728
00:35:40,489 --> 00:35:45,529
to that other shot she says oh oh my
729
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:48,380
goodness I gave it to him I said which
730
00:35:45,530 --> 00:35:50,390
one was it she said it's the it was the
731
00:35:48,380 --> 00:35:52,309
other MMR I said call the doctor
732
00:35:50,389 --> 00:35:54,469
this baby is screaming his head off
733
00:35:52,309 --> 00:35:56,509
you've given him an extra shot I don't
734
00:35:54,469 --> 00:35:59,119
know what the effects of that's gonna be
735
00:35:56,510 --> 00:36:02,330
we're leaving and I left so she never
736
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:05,750
got her shots I go home this baby cry
737
00:36:02,329 --> 00:36:07,340
cry cry I put him down on his little
738
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:09,789
blanket he starts banging his head on
739
00:36:07,340 --> 00:36:15,050
the floor banging his head on the floor
740
00:36:09,789 --> 00:36:17,360
next morning I go in this room and he's
741
00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:21,380
staring in this in the space and he's
742
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:24,620
living around like this as if you know
743
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:26,539
he's a bit paralyzed not the baby who
744
00:36:24,619 --> 00:36:31,599
was always doing this every morning
745
00:36:26,539 --> 00:36:36,110
smile for me to get him out of bed and I
746
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:38,599
pick him up and he does this and I said
747
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:42,079
what has happened to my baby so I call a
748
00:36:38,599 --> 00:36:45,469
clinic and I said I think my child's had
749
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:49,670
adverse reaction to those those shots
750
00:36:45,469 --> 00:36:51,649
yesterday she says no no no I'm waiting
751
00:36:49,670 --> 00:36:54,820
for representative from Merck I don't
752
00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:54,820
think it was a reaction to that
753
00:36:59,789 --> 00:37:05,119
bill Thompson looked at
754
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:07,289
african-americans he saw that those
755
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:10,230
african-americans that got the MMR on
756
00:37:07,289 --> 00:37:12,750
time were two point six four times more
757
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:15,090
likely to get an autism diagnosis than
758
00:37:12,750 --> 00:37:20,159
those african-americans that receive the
759
00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:21,570
MMR after three years of age among the
760
00:37:20,159 --> 00:37:24,750
blacks the ones that were getting
761
00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:27,750
vaccinated earlier but more likely to
762
00:37:24,750 --> 00:37:30,360
have autism at that point the group of
763
00:37:27,750 --> 00:37:32,699
researchers that was working on this
764
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,240
particular study they were having weekly
765
00:37:32,699 --> 00:37:36,589
meetings
766
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,969
Colleen Boyle who was the head of
767
00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:42,090
developmental disabilities branch a
768
00:37:38,969 --> 00:37:44,250
marshal and Juergen Alsop who was one of
769
00:37:42,090 --> 00:37:46,740
Thompson's direct supervisors Frank de
770
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:48,869
Stefano who was the head of the
771
00:37:46,739 --> 00:37:51,449
immunization Safety Office and then a
772
00:37:48,869 --> 00:37:54,539
postdoctoral research associate named
773
00:37:51,449 --> 00:37:56,750
Tanya bassoon in that meeting Thompson
774
00:37:54,539 --> 00:38:00,059
brought up the fact that
775
00:37:56,750 --> 00:38:02,250
african-americans were showing a highly
776
00:38:00,059 --> 00:38:07,739
statistically significant risk of autism
777
00:38:02,250 --> 00:38:09,480
if they got the MMR on time in these in
778
00:38:07,739 --> 00:38:11,549
these closed-door meetings I mean do
779
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,250
people say oh well this is unacceptable
780
00:38:11,550 --> 00:38:17,330
or is it just do they always say oh this
781
00:38:14,250 --> 00:38:20,820
can't be right or I'm not going to lie
782
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:25,949
but I also don't want to say things to
783
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:30,620
you right now that aren't there are some
784
00:38:25,949 --> 00:38:33,779
written form right the analysis
785
00:38:30,619 --> 00:38:36,559
regarding the African Americans was the
786
00:38:33,780 --> 00:38:41,070
eighth on the Richter scale earthquake
787
00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:44,179
that just shook through the CDC I take
788
00:38:41,070 --> 00:38:47,370
him to see the pediatrician that I know
789
00:38:44,179 --> 00:38:49,440
and she looks at me she closes the door
790
00:38:47,369 --> 00:38:52,829
and she whispers she says Sheila I
791
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:56,849
believe he has autism I said what like
792
00:38:52,829 --> 00:38:58,849
ramie she says something like that some
793
00:38:56,849 --> 00:39:02,089
will refer you out to a neurologist and
794
00:38:58,849 --> 00:39:05,610
we go see the neurologist the next week
795
00:39:02,090 --> 00:39:08,700
he says he has every classical symptoms
796
00:39:05,610 --> 00:39:10,920
of autism I do not believe this I was
797
00:39:08,699 --> 00:39:13,769
angry when he was explained it to me
798
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,800
what canis autism is he told me he was
799
00:39:13,769 --> 00:39:17,909
born that way I said no he wasn't
800
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,220
clearly there was a very high risk of
801
00:39:17,909 --> 00:39:22,710
autism and african-american children but
802
00:39:20,219 --> 00:39:24,689
here's the thing we know that autism is
803
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:27,179
four times more common in boys and so to
804
00:39:24,690 --> 00:39:28,349
see that effect mirrored in the
805
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african-american children was a
806
00:39:28,349 --> 00:39:34,170
compelling finding when I looked at
807
00:39:31,610 --> 00:39:37,980
african-american males only the relative
808
00:39:34,170 --> 00:39:40,470
risk was 3.36 it just blew my mind
809
00:39:37,980 --> 00:39:43,199
and that's when I wanted to call Bill
810
00:39:40,469 --> 00:39:46,139
Thompson on the phone in his statement
811
00:39:43,199 --> 00:39:48,960
to me was oh you found it that appears
812
00:39:46,139 --> 00:39:52,469
in the final publication is that the
813
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:54,679
race in general is downplayed of course
814
00:39:52,469 --> 00:39:54,679
it
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00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:12,810
temples twin is amazing she is fluent in
816
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:16,230
three languages she speaks French like a
817
00:40:12,809 --> 00:40:20,789
native she is an A student
818
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:24,510
she plays classical piano with all of
819
00:40:20,789 --> 00:40:26,579
the guilt that I feel from that day one
820
00:40:24,510 --> 00:40:28,680
of the best decisions I made for her
821
00:40:26,579 --> 00:40:32,009
what's the walk out of that office
822
00:40:28,679 --> 00:40:34,619
without her being vaccinated at the end
823
00:40:32,010 --> 00:40:36,240
of this journey I don't want to be one
824
00:40:34,619 --> 00:40:37,889
of those mothers standing there saying
825
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,809
what I wish I would have could have
826
00:40:37,889 --> 00:40:43,400
should have done I want to be able to
827
00:40:39,809 --> 00:40:45,389
say I gave it everything that I had I
828
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:48,289
gave it my best shot
829
00:40:45,389 --> 00:40:51,690
his twin is going until he loveth great
830
00:40:48,289 --> 00:40:53,489
and for someone who still can't manage
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to cross the street
832
00:40:53,489 --> 00:41:05,159
no I migrated police here you bet I'm
833
00:40:57,750 --> 00:41:36,630
grateful my son live he would live a
834
00:41:05,159 --> 00:41:38,639
fulfilling life vaccines build up your
835
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:41,970
immune system and make you stronger to
836
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:43,739
fight off disease a vaccine safe yes the
837
00:41:41,969 --> 00:41:45,480
studies involving millions of children
838
00:41:43,739 --> 00:41:47,129
have shown no connection between
839
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:51,389
vaccines and autism
840
00:41:47,130 --> 00:41:53,280
due to schedule the CDC's own vaccine
841
00:41:51,389 --> 00:41:56,159
schedule which we are required to adhere
842
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:58,680
to as parents in America recommends that
843
00:41:56,159 --> 00:42:01,679
our children get the MMR between 12 and
844
00:41:58,679 --> 00:42:04,529
18 months but in this hidden data
845
00:42:01,679 --> 00:42:07,319
provided to us by William Thompson it is
846
00:42:04,530 --> 00:42:09,150
clear that for African Americans this is
847
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,120
actually the most dangerous time to
848
00:42:09,150 --> 00:42:14,369
deliver the MMR a CDC in my opinion is
849
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,839
is one of the it's where I go to if I
850
00:42:14,369 --> 00:42:17,038
need information about an infectious
851
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,130
disease I
852
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:21,689
I probably either go on their website or
853
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:24,479
open one of the reference books every
854
00:42:21,688 --> 00:42:28,038
day that building is filled with a lot
855
00:42:24,478 --> 00:42:28,038
of scientists that are smarter than me
856
00:42:36,469 --> 00:42:41,009
the analysis plan is one of the most
857
00:42:39,028 --> 00:42:43,798
important parts of a scientific study
858
00:42:41,009 --> 00:42:46,528
it's the the laws or the rules by which
859
00:42:43,798 --> 00:42:49,679
the scientist will adhere to while doing
860
00:42:46,528 --> 00:42:50,909
this study and this analysis plan is put
861
00:42:49,679 --> 00:42:53,969
together by the scientists themselves
862
00:42:50,909 --> 00:42:56,578
sometimes their superiors weigh in but
863
00:42:53,969 --> 00:42:58,828
once they've locked that analysis plan
864
00:42:56,579 --> 00:43:01,740
they've said this is how we're going to
865
00:42:58,829 --> 00:43:04,318
use the data and you can't deviate from
866
00:43:01,739 --> 00:43:07,828
that analysis plan or you're at risk of
867
00:43:04,318 --> 00:43:09,568
fraud scientific fraud did they deviate
868
00:43:07,829 --> 00:43:12,089
from the analysis plan after seeing
869
00:43:09,568 --> 00:43:15,619
something that they didn't like if they
870
00:43:12,088 --> 00:43:18,538
did we have a real problem
871
00:43:15,619 --> 00:43:21,599
Thompson not only played a major role in
872
00:43:18,539 --> 00:43:23,910
developing the analysis plan he was the
873
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:26,700
numbers guy he was responsible for
874
00:43:23,909 --> 00:43:28,980
collecting the data analyzing the data
875
00:43:26,699 --> 00:43:32,548
and presenting the results and by
876
00:43:28,980 --> 00:43:37,650
November 2001 the results were in now
877
00:43:32,548 --> 00:43:39,929
with the MMR autism 1 we had an analysis
878
00:43:37,650 --> 00:43:45,509
plan that we were supposed to execute as
879
00:43:39,929 --> 00:43:48,568
was written and you know I'm going to be
880
00:43:45,509 --> 00:43:50,969
sharing these draft analysis plans that
881
00:43:48,568 --> 00:43:52,710
we had and you can see whether we did
882
00:43:50,969 --> 00:43:55,588
what we said we're gonna do that
883
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:58,619
analysis plan had been agreed upon not
884
00:43:55,588 --> 00:44:00,869
only by the co-authors but also CDC's
885
00:43:58,619 --> 00:44:02,640
superiors in order to conceal the effect
886
00:44:00,869 --> 00:44:04,170
of the MMR what they had to do was to
887
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:07,588
reduce the number of children in the
888
00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:10,079
study in order to reduce what is
889
00:44:07,588 --> 00:44:12,659
referred to as the statistical power
890
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:15,089
that is the ability of the study to
891
00:44:12,659 --> 00:44:17,548
detect a difference if one genuinely
892
00:44:15,088 --> 00:44:19,588
exists in a analysis plan they had
893
00:44:17,548 --> 00:44:21,989
agreed to use two sources of information
894
00:44:19,588 --> 00:44:23,880
the first was the children's school
895
00:44:21,989 --> 00:44:25,528
records and the second as the children's
896
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,539
Georgia birth certificate records
897
00:44:25,528 --> 00:44:29,639
so while every child in the study had a
898
00:44:27,539 --> 00:44:30,809
school record only half of the children
899
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,489
in the study had a Georgia birth
900
00:44:30,809 --> 00:44:34,769
certificate record because the other
901
00:44:32,489 --> 00:44:36,150
half had been born in other states so
902
00:44:34,768 --> 00:44:38,518
the analysis plan was explicit
903
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:40,619
information on a child's race was to
904
00:44:38,518 --> 00:44:42,659
come from their school record
905
00:44:40,619 --> 00:44:45,029
but when confronted by data that
906
00:44:42,659 --> 00:44:47,219
revealed an increased risk of autism in
907
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:49,650
african-american children they deviated
908
00:44:47,219 --> 00:44:51,689
from their analysis path they chose to
909
00:44:49,650 --> 00:44:53,519
get the race data not from the school
910
00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:55,409
record but from the Georgia birth
911
00:44:53,519 --> 00:44:58,289
certificate record instead of having
912
00:44:55,409 --> 00:45:01,920
3,000 individuals in the study it went
913
00:44:58,289 --> 00:45:06,300
down to about 1800 the relative risk
914
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:09,240
went down from 2.6 4 to 1.8 but more
915
00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:11,550
importantly that relative risk was no
916
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,739
longer statistically significant and now
917
00:45:11,550 --> 00:45:15,780
I ask you to step forward to receive the
918
00:45:13,739 --> 00:45:16,119
prize from the hands of His Majesty the
919
00:45:15,780 --> 00:45:19,940
King
920
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:19,940
[Music]
921
00:45:21,309 --> 00:45:30,940
I am Rick Mutiny MD obtained a prize for
922
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:35,010
my contribution to the discovery of the
923
00:45:30,940 --> 00:45:38,619
AIDS virus the vaccine out is a
924
00:45:35,010 --> 00:45:41,260
direction he's a worldwide problem not
925
00:45:38,619 --> 00:45:43,690
only in this country in Europe but also
926
00:45:41,260 --> 00:45:46,650
in Asia even in Africa the MMR
927
00:45:43,690 --> 00:45:49,960
vaccination in a very early stage of
928
00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:55,240
infancy before Arastoo was more
929
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:58,900
prominent in American children and this
930
00:45:55,239 --> 00:46:03,309
was hidden for some time this fall of
931
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:07,599
course I was very high to my opinion in
932
00:46:03,309 --> 00:46:10,570
the ethics of medicine science CDC in
933
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:13,989
the past has done a very important work
934
00:46:10,570 --> 00:46:16,300
on the discovery of AIDS so I'm very
935
00:46:13,989 --> 00:46:22,019
disappointed to see an different
936
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:22,019
situation with CDC did anyway seventies
937
00:46:25,110 --> 00:46:30,789
shortly after Julie Garba Dean became
938
00:46:28,030 --> 00:46:33,370
head of the CDC I began to communicate
939
00:46:30,789 --> 00:46:36,639
with her and asked her to come to my
940
00:46:33,369 --> 00:46:40,569
office there didn't seem to be objective
941
00:46:36,639 --> 00:46:43,569
research going on there was the CDC
942
00:46:40,570 --> 00:46:46,059
trying to promote vaccinations for
943
00:46:43,570 --> 00:46:48,880
children and then they were doing the
944
00:46:46,059 --> 00:46:51,489
safety research themselves in feces
945
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,369
judgment the best public policy is to
946
00:46:51,489 --> 00:46:57,029
continue vaccination unchanged while
947
00:46:54,369 --> 00:46:59,289
aggressively working to try to identify
948
00:46:57,030 --> 00:47:01,680
causes and developmental disabilities
949
00:46:59,289 --> 00:47:04,719
the CDC I just thought was
950
00:47:01,679 --> 00:47:06,669
institutionally conflicted the CDC can't
951
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,529
take money directly from pharma but they
952
00:47:06,670 --> 00:47:10,780
can set up a foundation and the
953
00:47:08,530 --> 00:47:13,080
foundation can attract donations from
954
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:15,060
commercial interests and does Merck
955
00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:17,049
GlaxoSmithKline now Pfizer
956
00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:19,539
sanofi-aventis have huge
957
00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:21,730
multibillion-dollar vaccine in
958
00:47:19,539 --> 00:47:24,340
businesses they're profitable they've
959
00:47:21,730 --> 00:47:26,679
grown because some of these new hi-tech
960
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:29,500
vaccines that are patented that are
961
00:47:26,679 --> 00:47:33,669
high-priced yet protected by this little
962
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:36,429
cocoon of regulatory capture in HHS
963
00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:38,588
and and are guaranteed multi-billion
964
00:47:36,429 --> 00:47:41,289
dollar franchises when I was working at
965
00:47:38,588 --> 00:47:42,969
Merck I was the sales rep for Vioxx the
966
00:47:41,289 --> 00:47:45,818
whole scandal started when it was
967
00:47:42,969 --> 00:47:48,129
discovered that Merck had manipulated
968
00:47:45,818 --> 00:47:50,079
data and covered up the fact that Vioxx
969
00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:51,519
actually caused twice the amount of
970
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:53,318
heart attacks and strokes than the
971
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:55,480
placebo what I learned from that
972
00:47:53,318 --> 00:47:57,548
experience was just because things are
973
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:02,920
on the market does not mean they are
974
00:47:57,548 --> 00:48:05,108
safe I think we get into a very
975
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:07,000
dangerous territory with vaccinations if
976
00:48:05,108 --> 00:48:08,828
a drug company gets just one vaccine
977
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,199
added to the schedule they can make
978
00:48:08,829 --> 00:48:13,539
upwards of thirty billion dollars in one
979
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:15,368
year it's no secret I think they've
980
00:48:13,539 --> 00:48:17,980
published their intention which is they
981
00:48:15,369 --> 00:48:20,349
want to create an environment of
982
00:48:17,980 --> 00:48:23,139
constant vaccination from cradle to
983
00:48:20,349 --> 00:48:27,210
grave they want infant vaccines expanded
984
00:48:23,139 --> 00:48:30,098
flu shots DTaP boosters Gardasil shots
985
00:48:27,210 --> 00:48:32,199
meningococcal shots they want adult
986
00:48:30,099 --> 00:48:35,500
vaccines they you know they want you and
987
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:37,598
me to come in and get a constant barrage
988
00:48:35,500 --> 00:48:40,000
of shots and then they want vaccines for
989
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:42,849
the elderly we have a highly profitable
990
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,679
product because the safety testing isn't
991
00:48:42,849 --> 00:48:46,990
as rigorous as a normal pharmaceutical
992
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:50,858
drug the gold standard is double-blind
993
00:48:46,989 --> 00:48:54,009
placebo based long-term study and that
994
00:48:50,858 --> 00:48:56,019
just isn't done with vaccines because
995
00:48:54,010 --> 00:48:58,240
they're classified in a different way as
996
00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:59,949
a public health measure and they haven't
997
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:02,979
been tested in combination with other
998
00:48:59,949 --> 00:49:05,679
vaccines yet doctors give six to nine
999
00:49:02,980 --> 00:49:08,469
doses per visit it's insane if
1000
00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:11,139
pharmaceutical drug was tested like this
1001
00:49:08,469 --> 00:49:13,239
it wouldn't be on the market but because
1002
00:49:11,139 --> 00:49:16,539
it's a vaccine and the safety testing is
1003
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:19,149
less rigorous our children are being
1004
00:49:16,539 --> 00:49:21,159
experimented on I don't like to look at
1005
00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:23,588
autism from a behavioral perspective I
1006
00:49:21,159 --> 00:49:26,019
look at it from more of a what causes it
1007
00:49:23,588 --> 00:49:28,210
in each child when I want to define
1008
00:49:26,019 --> 00:49:30,280
autism I have to say that it's the
1009
00:49:28,210 --> 00:49:31,960
inability to detoxify the way you're
1010
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,880
supposed to are at the rates that you're
1011
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:36,369
supposed to and it all has to do with
1012
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,130
this toxic overload these children are
1013
00:49:36,369 --> 00:49:41,740
not detoxifying from the vaccinations
1014
00:49:39,130 --> 00:49:44,858
same thing with GMO products the
1015
00:49:41,739 --> 00:49:46,449
pesticides in our food if I can prevent
1016
00:49:44,858 --> 00:49:49,659
the child from being exposed
1017
00:49:46,449 --> 00:49:51,848
two more toxins then when I'm teaching
1018
00:49:49,659 --> 00:49:53,858
the child at least the child's getting
1019
00:49:51,849 --> 00:49:54,519
better and not continuously getting
1020
00:49:53,858 --> 00:49:56,469
worse
1021
00:49:54,519 --> 00:50:04,989
without a doubt what's happened to Billy
1022
00:49:56,469 --> 00:50:07,929
has changed his life well I have on my
1023
00:50:04,989 --> 00:50:08,739
hands now as a 19 year old man he's six
1024
00:50:07,929 --> 00:50:12,059
foot two
1025
00:50:08,739 --> 00:50:14,709
he is volatile on good days Billy is
1026
00:50:12,059 --> 00:50:16,449
brilliant isn't angel on bad days the
1027
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:21,639
slightest thing can trigger him and he's
1028
00:50:16,449 --> 00:50:24,219
scary I'm gonna go downstairs okay
1029
00:50:21,639 --> 00:50:26,230
I'm gonna kill daddy right now though
1030
00:50:24,219 --> 00:50:29,019
listen to me I'm gonna stay with your
1031
00:50:26,230 --> 00:50:30,940
painting a fine calm down okay the
1032
00:50:29,019 --> 00:50:34,449
reason they become aggressive and
1033
00:50:30,940 --> 00:50:36,900
dangerous in some cases is because they
1034
00:50:34,449 --> 00:50:41,710
have no ability to communicate because
1035
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:47,349
mummy asked Kent but entering the sweet
1036
00:50:41,710 --> 00:50:49,690
corn this is your fault mummy if you
1037
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:52,539
were not able to express your needs your
1038
00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:54,190
wants your desires your happiness and
1039
00:50:52,539 --> 00:50:56,739
sadness and so on you would become
1040
00:50:54,190 --> 00:51:06,280
aggressive that's often when we see the
1041
00:50:56,739 --> 00:51:09,129
worst part of autism we had to occupy
1042
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:11,170
his room and use his video player and of
1043
00:51:09,130 --> 00:51:16,050
course that is a massive intrusion in
1044
00:51:11,170 --> 00:51:16,050
his space and he's he got very upset
1045
00:51:23,730 --> 00:51:28,809
that there's millions of means there's
1046
00:51:26,889 --> 00:51:31,150
millions of pulling Tommy's with vaccine
1047
00:51:28,809 --> 00:51:33,789
damage children I am telling you this
1048
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:35,950
because I am NOT want you to live the
1049
00:51:33,789 --> 00:51:37,750
life that I've led I didn't want you to
1050
00:51:35,949 --> 00:51:39,879
go through the pain I did not want to
1051
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:41,380
see you stuff up will family suffer that
1052
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,329
is why I'm telling you I've no other
1053
00:51:41,380 --> 00:51:46,740
reason to tell you about it it's not my
1054
00:51:43,329 --> 00:51:46,740
concern my kids already damaged
1055
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:57,400
I'm a senior research scientist here at
1056
00:51:55,900 --> 00:51:59,108
MIT and the computer science and
1057
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,750
artificial intelligence laboratory I
1058
00:51:59,108 --> 00:52:04,809
have a bachelor's degree in biology from
1059
00:52:01,750 --> 00:52:07,030
MIT and I have MS EE and PhD degrees
1060
00:52:04,809 --> 00:52:10,150
also from MIT in electrical engineering
1061
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:12,430
and computer science I became interested
1062
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:14,289
in autism a long time ago when my best
1063
00:52:12,429 --> 00:52:17,829
friend at the time had a son who was
1064
00:52:14,289 --> 00:52:20,050
diagnosed with autism following an DPT
1065
00:52:17,829 --> 00:52:22,420
shot yeah I ran a high fever after shot
1066
00:52:20,050 --> 00:52:25,119
seizures a week later and then was later
1067
00:52:22,420 --> 00:52:27,099
diagnosed with autism we have to accept
1068
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:29,710
the fact that autism is new that the
1069
00:52:27,099 --> 00:52:31,720
four nineteen thirty the rate of autism
1070
00:52:29,710 --> 00:52:34,119
in the world was effectively zero and
1071
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:36,608
then for a long time it was one in
1072
00:52:34,119 --> 00:52:38,829
10,000 I got interested in studying
1073
00:52:36,608 --> 00:52:40,630
autism eight years ago when I saw the
1074
00:52:38,829 --> 00:52:42,069
numbers go up and I was quite alarmed
1075
00:52:40,630 --> 00:52:44,890
because I could see that the trend was
1076
00:52:42,070 --> 00:52:48,039
exponential growth and extra exponential
1077
00:52:44,889 --> 00:52:50,829
growth is extremely scary since we leave
1078
00:52:48,039 --> 00:52:53,679
the mid to late 80s we've gone from this
1079
00:52:50,829 --> 00:52:55,779
low prevalence environment to a rate of
1080
00:52:53,679 --> 00:52:57,699
increase where the trend is still
1081
00:52:55,780 --> 00:53:00,099
vertical we have not seen a flattening
1082
00:52:57,699 --> 00:53:01,569
in trend it's every couple of years the
1083
00:53:00,099 --> 00:53:03,550
CDC it provides a number of what
1084
00:53:01,570 --> 00:53:05,170
percentage of the kids are diagnosed
1085
00:53:03,550 --> 00:53:07,599
with autism and you've got the dots
1086
00:53:05,170 --> 00:53:10,240
going all the way back to 1975 you draw
1087
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:12,550
the line it is a perfect exponential
1088
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:15,639
curve if we assume that things are going
1089
00:53:12,550 --> 00:53:18,099
to continue as they have for the past 30
1090
00:53:15,639 --> 00:53:22,389
years into the future we can predict
1091
00:53:18,099 --> 00:53:25,390
that by 2030 to 80% of the boys born
1092
00:53:22,389 --> 00:53:28,949
will end up on the autism spectrum half
1093
00:53:25,389 --> 00:53:28,949
the children 80% of the voice
1094
00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:51,329
if you think this vaccine is only a
1095
00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:53,880
problem for african-american kids like
1096
00:53:51,329 --> 00:53:56,818
me you're wrong there is an even bigger
1097
00:53:53,880 --> 00:54:07,619
problem one that puts all kids at risk
1098
00:53:56,818 --> 00:54:09,568
and it's called isolated autism when the
1099
00:54:07,619 --> 00:54:11,818
CDC researchers set out to do the study
1100
00:54:09,568 --> 00:54:14,909
they asked themselves the question if
1101
00:54:11,818 --> 00:54:17,880
early MMR vaccine causes autism in which
1102
00:54:14,909 --> 00:54:21,538
children would we be most likely to find
1103
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:24,720
this affect their answer is children
1104
00:54:21,539 --> 00:54:26,369
with no developmental concerns for the
1105
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,279
first year of life children who were
1106
00:54:26,369 --> 00:54:33,000
perfectly healthy until they received
1107
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:36,480
their MMR vaccine they called this group
1108
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:40,380
isolated autism now this does not refer
1109
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,409
to an isolated case of autism or an
1110
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:45,630
isolated group with autism they isolated
1111
00:54:43,409 --> 00:54:49,588
autism and these were children who had
1112
00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:54,150
no comorbid conditions apart from their
1113
00:54:49,588 --> 00:54:55,858
autism no cerebral palsy no mental
1114
00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:59,430
retardation no visual or hearing
1115
00:54:55,858 --> 00:55:03,088
impairment no epilepsy and no birth
1116
00:54:59,429 --> 00:55:05,399
defects this risk group includes
1117
00:55:03,088 --> 00:55:11,210
essentially every healthy child in the
1118
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:15,048
world I'm a single father raising a
1119
00:55:11,210 --> 00:55:18,900
fifteen-year-old severely autistic
1120
00:55:15,048 --> 00:55:20,730
nonverbal teenage daughter when she was
1121
00:55:18,900 --> 00:55:22,950
15 months old she received a round of
1122
00:55:20,730 --> 00:55:26,369
vaccines that included the MMR and the
1123
00:55:22,949 --> 00:55:29,489
DTaP she developed a high fever when the
1124
00:55:26,369 --> 00:55:30,960
fever broke she lost everything my
1125
00:55:29,489 --> 00:55:33,538
daughter was six weeks old when I took
1126
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,670
her in for her vaccinations two hours
1127
00:55:33,539 --> 00:55:37,380
later she had five minutes seizure and
1128
00:55:35,670 --> 00:55:41,358
two hours after that she had another
1129
00:55:37,380 --> 00:55:41,358
five minutes seizure mom is here
1130
00:55:52,619 --> 00:55:57,099
the vaccination gave her severe brain
1131
00:55:55,210 --> 00:55:58,809
damage and she had seizures every day
1132
00:55:57,099 --> 00:55:59,470
for the rest of her life until she died
1133
00:55:58,809 --> 00:56:01,989
in my arms
1134
00:55:59,469 --> 00:56:04,239
at the age of 15 there is no good reason
1135
00:56:01,989 --> 00:56:08,019
to choose not to get a vaccine he got
1136
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:10,329
his MMR and he got his DTP and within
1137
00:56:08,019 --> 00:56:12,670
days he stopped talking projectile
1138
00:56:10,329 --> 00:56:14,769
vomiting convulsions he went blind in
1139
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:19,450
his left eye vaccines took our healthy
1140
00:56:14,769 --> 00:56:21,670
happy baby and made him unwell she lost
1141
00:56:19,449 --> 00:56:24,039
all acquired speech he lost his speech
1142
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:27,010
he lost his eye contact like the flick
1143
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:28,389
of a switch vaccines were unsafe I think
1144
00:56:27,010 --> 00:56:30,310
this would be an interesting and
1145
00:56:28,389 --> 00:56:32,799
reasonable discussion obviously some
1146
00:56:30,309 --> 00:56:34,509
minority get hurt by this stuff I don't
1147
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,810
understand why this is controversial
1148
00:56:34,510 --> 00:56:40,150
vaccines are safe get vaccinated it's
1149
00:56:37,809 --> 00:56:42,460
like you know what shut the fuck up and
1150
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:44,710
let me take every vaccine that Merck
1151
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:47,079
wants to shut down my throat autism is
1152
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:48,340
not a side effect of vaccine or to say
1153
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:51,190
it another way cuz some people don't
1154
00:56:48,340 --> 00:56:53,950
want don't hear this well vaccines do
1155
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:55,990
not cause autism hear this well hear
1156
00:56:53,949 --> 00:56:56,739
this well please hear this well hear
1157
00:56:55,989 --> 00:56:59,829
this well
1158
00:56:56,739 --> 00:57:01,629
vaccines can and do cause autism my
1159
00:56:59,829 --> 00:57:03,848
granddaughter Lily when my daughter if
1160
00:57:01,630 --> 00:57:05,200
my son was fully vaccinated my son
1161
00:57:03,849 --> 00:57:07,450
Jackson I have a healthy
1162
00:57:05,199 --> 00:57:11,829
typically-developing boy please hear
1163
00:57:07,449 --> 00:57:17,759
this well one day everyone will know the
1164
00:57:11,829 --> 00:57:17,759
truth about vaccines hear this well
1165
00:57:20,780 --> 00:57:25,580
I actually think the most interesting
1166
00:57:22,608 --> 00:57:27,529
results are the elevated ones or the
1167
00:57:25,579 --> 00:57:30,500
isolated ones that don't have other
1168
00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:32,630
comorbid conditions the effect is where
1169
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:35,510
you would think it would happen in
1170
00:57:32,630 --> 00:57:38,450
isolated autism he saw a very very
1171
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:41,630
strong effect specific to those kids
1172
00:57:38,449 --> 00:57:44,259
that got the MMR on time when Bill
1173
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:47,119
Thompson ran those numbers he saw an
1174
00:57:44,260 --> 00:57:49,430
astronomical effect some of the numbers
1175
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:53,570
were actually the relative risks were as
1176
00:57:49,429 --> 00:57:56,379
high as seven or eight times higher with
1177
00:57:53,570 --> 00:57:59,510
these kids that were diagnosed with just
1178
00:57:56,380 --> 00:58:05,780
isolated autism no other diagnosis
1179
00:57:59,510 --> 00:58:07,930
versus those controls because it sounds
1180
00:58:05,780 --> 00:58:10,670
small but it really is a big problem
1181
00:58:07,929 --> 00:58:14,629
because all healthy children no matter
1182
00:58:10,670 --> 00:58:16,369
what race are at risk for example my
1183
00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:18,200
sister's 18 months old
1184
00:58:16,369 --> 00:58:21,289
and she's supposed to get her and Lamar
1185
00:58:18,199 --> 00:58:24,019
shot right now but if she does she's
1186
00:58:21,289 --> 00:58:26,779
seven times more likely to get autism
1187
00:58:24,019 --> 00:58:29,900
then if my parents wait until after
1188
00:58:26,780 --> 00:58:33,640
three years old so I hope my parents
1189
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:36,650
don't do it here's what's really scary
1190
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:39,710
when we look at isolated autism we see
1191
00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:41,930
that there's a up to 7 fold increase in
1192
00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:44,088
the incidence of autism between those
1193
00:58:41,929 --> 00:58:46,639
that receive the vaccine between 12 and
1194
00:58:44,088 --> 00:58:48,380
18 months versus those that got it after
1195
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:50,989
three years old but let's be perfectly
1196
00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:53,170
clear every child in this study had
1197
00:58:50,989 --> 00:58:55,759
received the MMR vaccine
1198
00:58:53,170 --> 00:58:57,740
what would the numbers be if you
1199
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,380
compared children who got the vaccine
1200
00:58:57,739 --> 00:59:03,559
between 12 and 18 months versus children
1201
00:59:00,380 --> 00:59:05,990
that never got the vaccine at all this
1202
00:59:03,559 --> 00:59:09,920
is often referred to as the VAX versus
1203
00:59:05,989 --> 00:59:12,858
on vac study and the CDC refuses to do
1204
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,750
this study even though every drug that
1205
00:59:12,858 --> 00:59:17,088
we take has been through this exact
1206
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:18,710
study there's a group who take the drug
1207
00:59:17,088 --> 00:59:20,599
and then they compare it with a group
1208
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:21,949
that do not take the drug and they see
1209
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:23,599
are there more side effects and
1210
00:59:21,949 --> 00:59:26,838
complications with the group that takes
1211
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:30,320
the drug so why does the CDC refuse to
1212
00:59:26,838 --> 00:59:32,210
do the VAX vs. on vac study probably
1213
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,588
because when we look at the results of
1214
00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:37,409
this study we realize that the
1215
00:59:34,588 --> 00:59:39,268
risk would be astronomical and is likely
1216
00:59:37,409 --> 00:59:41,518
to be one of the major reasons we're
1217
00:59:39,268 --> 00:59:48,649
seeing this skyrocketing increase of
1218
00:59:41,518 --> 00:59:51,598
autism worldwide just like the
1219
00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:54,838
african-american children they went into
1220
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:56,818
the room and they sliced and diced the
1221
00:59:54,838 --> 00:59:57,389
data in an effort to get rid of that
1222
00:59:56,818 --> 00:59:59,460
effect
1223
00:59:57,389 --> 01:00:02,068
this is Colleen Boyle's meeting notes
1224
00:59:59,460 --> 01:00:04,048
how they plan to present the data by
1225
01:00:02,068 --> 01:00:06,449
these age groups that after the fact
1226
01:00:04,048 --> 01:00:13,619
when the data are in she writes reformat
1227
01:00:06,449 --> 01:00:15,298
and then she puts in new age groups even
1228
01:00:13,619 --> 01:00:17,278
this failed to achieve the desired
1229
01:00:15,298 --> 01:00:18,838
effect since in the end they simply
1230
01:00:17,278 --> 01:00:22,380
omitted the relevant findings from the
1231
01:00:18,838 --> 01:00:25,949
paper altogether just looking at I'm
1232
01:00:22,380 --> 01:00:31,079
like oh my god I cannot believe we did
1233
01:00:25,949 --> 01:00:33,179
what we did but we did yeah so it's all
1234
01:00:31,079 --> 01:00:35,460
there it's all there and you in the
1235
01:00:33,179 --> 01:00:37,018
health field you who run our health
1236
01:00:35,460 --> 01:00:40,769
agencies in this country who are sitting
1237
01:00:37,018 --> 01:00:43,199
here today you have an obligation to
1238
01:00:40,768 --> 01:00:44,518
these kids that you just saw there to
1239
01:00:43,199 --> 01:00:47,879
make sure that these studies are
1240
01:00:44,518 --> 01:00:50,669
complete thorough so that everybody
1241
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:53,160
knows that we have all the facts and you
1242
01:00:50,670 --> 01:00:55,400
don't have that one of the things we did
1243
01:00:53,159 --> 01:00:58,348
because this was such an important topic
1244
01:00:55,400 --> 01:01:00,210
was to have them be sworn in so they
1245
01:00:58,349 --> 01:01:03,989
were under oath and if they were
1246
01:01:00,210 --> 01:01:06,119
doctoring the results of a study and
1247
01:01:03,989 --> 01:01:09,900
they did it deliberately they committed
1248
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:13,499
a felony it used to be one in 10,000 and
1249
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:15,809
now it's one in more than 250 kids that
1250
01:01:13,498 --> 01:01:19,318
are being damaged in this country that
1251
01:01:15,809 --> 01:01:22,589
are autistic now those kids are gonna
1252
01:01:19,318 --> 01:01:24,298
grow up they aren't gonna die it's not
1253
01:01:22,588 --> 01:01:26,759
like a lot of diseases where they get
1254
01:01:24,298 --> 01:01:29,369
infected and they drop dead they're
1255
01:01:26,759 --> 01:01:32,329
gonna live to be 5060 years old now who
1256
01:01:29,369 --> 01:01:35,519
do you think's gonna take care of them
1257
01:01:32,329 --> 01:01:37,769
it's gonna be us all of us the taxpayers
1258
01:01:35,518 --> 01:01:41,118
and it's going to cost I think as you
1259
01:01:37,768 --> 01:01:44,129
said Miss Maroney trillions of dollars
1260
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:45,660
so we can't let the pharmaceutical
1261
01:01:44,130 --> 01:01:48,390
companies and our government
1262
01:01:45,659 --> 01:01:51,779
cover this mess up today because it
1263
01:01:48,389 --> 01:01:55,079
ain't gonna go away and it's gonna cost
1264
01:01:51,780 --> 01:01:58,380
the taxpayers trillions more if we wait
1265
01:01:55,079 --> 01:02:00,869
around on it and for our FDA and HHS
1266
01:01:58,380 --> 01:02:02,970
health agencies to continue to hide
1267
01:02:00,869 --> 01:02:04,380
behind this facade that there have been
1268
01:02:02,969 --> 01:02:08,159
studies that conclusively prove
1269
01:02:04,380 --> 01:02:10,230
otherwise is just wrong - so the CDC
1270
01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:12,239
wasn't just doing this study inside of a
1271
01:02:10,230 --> 01:02:14,760
bubble in fact it was the exact opposite
1272
01:02:12,239 --> 01:02:16,559
they were under fire you had congressman
1273
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:19,590
Dan Burton in front of the Congress
1274
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:21,929
demanding answers about mercury and the
1275
01:02:19,590 --> 01:02:24,240
MMR and vaccine studies in the
1276
01:02:21,929 --> 01:02:26,309
connection to autism Dave Weldon
1277
01:02:24,239 --> 01:02:27,569
congressman from Florida is reaching out
1278
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:29,909
to Julie Gerber dealing with serious
1279
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:31,920
complaints on how he thinks this entire
1280
01:02:29,909 --> 01:02:34,409
issue is being handled on top of that
1281
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:37,050
the Department of Justice is requesting
1282
01:02:34,409 --> 01:02:38,940
files and data from the CDC because of a
1283
01:02:37,050 --> 01:02:41,400
previous study called the rest' ratan
1284
01:02:38,940 --> 01:02:43,139
study that had so many anomalies it
1285
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,630
looked like scientific fraud was taking
1286
01:02:43,139 --> 01:02:47,609
place so they were suspicious so then
1287
01:02:45,630 --> 01:02:50,400
you look at the emails that thompson's
1288
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:52,740
provided to us and you see that he's
1289
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,869
reaching out to his line manager dr.
1290
01:02:52,739 --> 01:02:57,539
Melinda Wharton throwing up red flags
1291
01:02:54,869 --> 01:02:59,519
saying I first spoke with you in
1292
01:02:57,539 --> 01:03:00,929
September of 2002 regarding the
1293
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:03,809
sensitive results we have been
1294
01:03:00,929 --> 01:03:06,480
struggling with in the MMR autism study
1295
01:03:03,809 --> 01:03:10,469
how do you struggle with scientific
1296
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:14,460
results I mean facts are facts data are
1297
01:03:10,469 --> 01:03:15,899
data that doesn't make any sense so you
1298
01:03:14,460 --> 01:03:17,579
got Dan Burton breathing down their
1299
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:20,340
necks the Department of Justice is
1300
01:03:17,579 --> 01:03:23,610
requesting files and William Thompson
1301
01:03:20,340 --> 01:03:24,480
finds out that Colleen Boyle has brought
1302
01:03:23,610 --> 01:03:27,360
in a lawyer
1303
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:28,949
to help her decide what materials are
1304
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,090
too sensitive to provide to the
1305
01:03:28,949 --> 01:03:32,849
Department of Justice
1306
01:03:30,090 --> 01:03:35,280
this obviously freaks William Thompson
1307
01:03:32,849 --> 01:03:37,920
out because later in the email to
1308
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,710
Wharton he says I will be hiring my own
1309
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,480
personal attorney and it's extremely
1310
01:03:40,710 --> 01:03:44,429
unfortunate that we need to be concerned
1311
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,590
about whether our own legal rights are
1312
01:03:44,429 --> 01:03:50,339
covered when participating in a study
1313
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:53,510
such as this and what's going on here we
1314
01:03:50,340 --> 01:03:57,300
have government scientists lowering up
1315
01:03:53,510 --> 01:03:59,520
over a children's safety study clearly
1316
01:03:57,300 --> 01:04:01,830
this does not sit well in all with
1317
01:03:59,519 --> 01:04:03,929
dr. Thompson because at the end of this
1318
01:04:01,829 --> 01:04:07,079
email he makes what looks to me to be a
1319
01:04:03,929 --> 01:04:08,789
clear threat my level of concern has
1320
01:04:07,079 --> 01:04:11,519
also caused me to seriously consider
1321
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:13,739
removing myself as an author on the
1322
01:04:11,519 --> 01:04:16,019
draft manuscript so then a few days
1323
01:04:13,739 --> 01:04:18,929
later Thompson Royce directly to dr.
1324
01:04:16,019 --> 01:04:22,139
Walter Ornstein head the National
1325
01:04:18,929 --> 01:04:24,299
Immunization program saying I am NOT
1326
01:04:22,139 --> 01:04:27,170
interested in taking all the political
1327
01:04:24,300 --> 01:04:30,990
heat that will go along with that study
1328
01:04:27,170 --> 01:04:33,510
Thompson has gone all the way to the top
1329
01:04:30,989 --> 01:04:36,449
of his department I mean we don't ever
1330
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:39,750
get a response from Walter orange team
1331
01:04:36,449 --> 01:04:46,980
but Thompson is very clear on what
1332
01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:48,780
happened next the higher-ups wanted to
1333
01:04:46,980 --> 01:04:51,840
do certain things and I went along with
1334
01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:54,540
it in terms of chain of command I was
1335
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,950
number four out of five dr. Thompson
1336
01:04:54,539 --> 01:05:00,090
talked about destruction of documents
1337
01:04:55,949 --> 01:05:02,009
and that in fall of 2002 there was a
1338
01:05:00,090 --> 01:05:04,079
meeting with the trashcan rolled in and
1339
01:05:02,010 --> 01:05:06,540
they selected documents to be destroyed
1340
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:09,029
I let all the analyses would discuss
1341
01:05:06,539 --> 01:05:11,159
another thing literally everyone else
1342
01:05:09,030 --> 01:05:13,260
got rid of all their documents so the
1343
01:05:11,159 --> 01:05:15,449
only document that exists right now from
1344
01:05:13,260 --> 01:05:17,640
that study are mine these documents were
1345
01:05:15,449 --> 01:05:19,589
not a federal records they were very
1346
01:05:17,639 --> 01:05:21,569
important documents because they showed
1347
01:05:19,590 --> 01:05:23,490
a very strong statistically significant
1348
01:05:21,570 --> 01:05:24,840
effect he felt that quite rightly it
1349
01:05:23,489 --> 01:05:27,539
would be illegal to destroy those
1350
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:29,519
documents and so in his office he kept
1351
01:05:27,539 --> 01:05:32,579
not only the hard copies but the
1352
01:05:29,519 --> 01:05:35,730
computerized files for that study there
1353
01:05:32,579 --> 01:05:39,509
was a dramatically different result
1354
01:05:35,730 --> 01:05:42,240
presented before and after the time
1355
01:05:39,510 --> 01:05:44,580
frame that Thompson alleged that these
1356
01:05:42,239 --> 01:05:48,209
data were destroyed if I never had the
1357
01:05:44,579 --> 01:05:51,269
documents before October 2002 there
1358
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:53,190
would be nothing that would show that
1359
01:05:51,269 --> 01:05:55,409
they actually had the results in hand
1360
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:57,990
and they decided to destroy those
1361
01:05:55,409 --> 01:06:00,719
results I filed a formal complaint to
1362
01:05:57,989 --> 01:06:02,309
the Office of Research integrity and the
1363
01:06:00,719 --> 01:06:04,649
Department of Health and Human Services
1364
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:06,389
I heard that not long after the
1365
01:06:04,650 --> 01:06:09,358
complaint was filed and the letter
1366
01:06:06,389 --> 01:06:11,400
basically stated that every co-author
1367
01:06:09,358 --> 01:06:14,130
except for doctor
1368
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,710
Thompson denied that any such meeting
1369
01:06:14,130 --> 01:06:18,720
was scheduled they denied that any
1370
01:06:16,710 --> 01:06:21,838
material was destroyed or thrown away
1371
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:23,308
they were calling dr. Thompson a liar it
1372
01:06:21,838 --> 01:06:26,940
was their word against his
1373
01:06:23,309 --> 01:06:28,559
dr. Thompson predicted this would happen
1374
01:06:26,940 --> 01:06:32,670
there's things I haven't even shared
1375
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:35,400
with you because I can't prove it and
1376
01:06:32,670 --> 01:06:37,108
that's what I struggle with I don't want
1377
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:40,700
to share things with you that I can't
1378
01:06:37,108 --> 01:06:44,460
prove that there aren't hard records
1379
01:06:40,699 --> 01:06:47,159
because I am worried that the other four
1380
01:06:44,460 --> 01:06:48,000
people will collude and they know that's
1381
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:50,940
not true
1382
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:53,548
dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to
1383
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:57,889
me for precisely the time where the
1384
01:06:53,548 --> 01:06:57,889
co-authors are claiming that no meeting
1385
01:07:07,730 --> 01:07:12,480
so look once you have the data a
1386
01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:15,298
scientific study like this is a
1387
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:17,400
relatively simple process you just run
1388
01:07:15,298 --> 01:07:18,989
the data you get the results and then
1389
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,660
you publish those results in the paper
1390
01:07:18,989 --> 01:07:23,578
in their own analysis plan this study
1391
01:07:21,659 --> 01:07:28,139
was only supposed to take six months
1392
01:07:23,579 --> 01:07:30,809
from May 2001 to December 2001 so if
1393
01:07:28,139 --> 01:07:34,739
they weren't destroying data why did
1394
01:07:30,809 --> 01:07:36,869
this study end up taking four years the
1395
01:07:34,739 --> 01:07:39,568
question everybody needs to be asking
1396
01:07:36,869 --> 01:07:43,940
the CDC is what the heck happened
1397
01:07:39,568 --> 01:07:47,369
between October 2002 and February of
1398
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:49,409
2004 the reason you don't see anything
1399
01:07:47,369 --> 01:07:52,670
else circulating on the study it was
1400
01:07:49,409 --> 01:07:57,509
either behind closed doors for two years
1401
01:07:52,670 --> 01:07:59,338
Wow so after two years of secret
1402
01:07:57,510 --> 01:08:01,770
meetings behind closed doors
1403
01:07:59,338 --> 01:08:03,900
this definitely merges with the final
1404
01:08:01,769 --> 01:08:05,730
draft of the MMR study and they're going
1405
01:08:03,900 --> 01:08:09,710
to present it to the Institute of
1406
01:08:05,730 --> 01:08:13,130
Medicine people on the IOM move from
1407
01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:15,778
industry government academia government
1408
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:18,810
industry and they then they bounce
1409
01:08:15,778 --> 01:08:21,868
around it's all the same people and
1410
01:08:18,810 --> 01:08:24,179
there wasn't a really good policeman and
1411
01:08:21,868 --> 01:08:26,130
us to really make sure that the vaccine
1412
01:08:24,179 --> 01:08:28,440
safety studies are done properly and
1413
01:08:26,130 --> 01:08:30,690
that they're done objectively yeah it
1414
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:33,149
just didn't seem to me like we were we
1415
01:08:30,689 --> 01:08:36,118
were running a system that was credible
1416
01:08:33,149 --> 01:08:38,429
I had written to Julie Gerber ding and I
1417
01:08:36,118 --> 01:08:40,559
asked her to postpone the February 9th
1418
01:08:38,429 --> 01:08:42,359
Institute of Medicine meeting this
1419
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:46,310
report the Institute of Medicine report
1420
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:48,599
I want to postpone because of my concern
1421
01:08:46,310 --> 01:08:51,420
that this was not an exercise in
1422
01:08:48,599 --> 01:08:53,338
discovering the truth but was instead a
1423
01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:55,829
meeting being driven by a desire to
1424
01:08:53,338 --> 01:08:58,318
short-circuit important research and
1425
01:08:55,829 --> 01:09:00,599
draw premature conclusions
1426
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:03,000
the problem is William Thompson being
1427
01:09:00,599 --> 01:09:06,060
the lead scientist he's going to have to
1428
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,020
present their findings and he's not
1429
01:09:06,060 --> 01:09:09,960
happy about it
1430
01:09:07,020 --> 01:09:12,750
in fact he cell upset that he goes above
1431
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:15,420
the lead author to Stefano above Walter
1432
01:09:12,750 --> 01:09:18,929
Hornstein all the way to the head of the
1433
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:21,658
CDC dr. Julie Gerber ding and in an
1434
01:09:18,929 --> 01:09:24,719
email he says dear dr. Gerber ding I
1435
01:09:21,658 --> 01:09:26,908
will have to present several problematic
1436
01:09:24,719 --> 01:09:29,338
results relating to statistical
1437
01:09:26,908 --> 01:09:33,568
associations between the receipt of MMR
1438
01:09:29,338 --> 01:09:35,639
vaccine and autism basically saying I'm
1439
01:09:33,569 --> 01:09:38,099
not going to continue this lie if you
1440
01:09:35,639 --> 01:09:41,579
put me up there I'm going to tell the
1441
01:09:38,099 --> 01:09:43,770
truth Thompson was originally scheduled
1442
01:09:41,579 --> 01:09:46,829
to provide a briefing because he
1443
01:09:43,770 --> 01:09:49,319
basically told director Gerber ding that
1444
01:09:46,829 --> 01:09:51,929
he would have to say that there is a
1445
01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:54,570
causal association he was switched at
1446
01:09:51,929 --> 01:09:57,599
the last minute with Frank DeStefano was
1447
01:09:54,569 --> 01:10:00,210
able to report to the IOM falsely we
1448
01:09:57,599 --> 01:10:00,869
have found no association between MMR
1449
01:10:00,210 --> 01:10:04,408
and autism
1450
01:10:00,868 --> 01:10:06,238
the IOM was the point of no return I'm
1451
01:10:04,408 --> 01:10:10,379
so deprived of the truth
1452
01:10:06,238 --> 01:10:13,459
the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe it was
1453
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:17,639
a rush to judgment to shut the door
1454
01:10:13,460 --> 01:10:20,550
permanently and completely on the mmm or
1455
01:10:17,639 --> 01:10:23,029
autism link it's absolutely appalling
1456
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:25,800
that much of what I said turned out
1457
01:10:23,029 --> 01:10:27,408
exactly to be true they were trying to
1458
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,989
short-circuit the reason
1459
01:10:27,408 --> 01:10:31,819
it's the lowest you know it's the lowest
1460
01:10:29,988 --> 01:10:33,888
point in my career that I went along
1461
01:10:31,819 --> 01:10:36,590
with that paper after their brilliant
1462
01:10:33,889 --> 01:10:38,750
work on the MMR study the Stefan owners
1463
01:10:36,590 --> 01:10:40,029
team received an award from the
1464
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:43,698
Department of Health and Human Services
1465
01:10:40,029 --> 01:10:45,469
and then several years later dr. Julie
1466
01:10:43,698 --> 01:10:49,519
Gerber ding received an award of her own
1467
01:10:45,469 --> 01:10:53,210
a high-paid job as head of the vaccine
1468
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:55,210
division at Merck clearly Merck
1469
01:10:53,210 --> 01:11:04,010
appreciated the work she had done
1470
01:10:55,210 --> 01:11:09,069
investigating their vaccine you know I
1471
01:11:04,010 --> 01:11:11,150
wrote a paper on my results on MMR and
1472
01:11:09,069 --> 01:11:13,789
it will include
1473
01:11:11,149 --> 01:11:16,549
something that I got from you Brian was
1474
01:11:13,789 --> 01:11:18,319
about to publish a paper using data that
1475
01:11:16,550 --> 01:11:20,539
could only have come from an inside
1476
01:11:18,319 --> 01:11:22,939
source at the CDC a whistleblower and
1477
01:11:20,539 --> 01:11:25,908
from that point forward William Thompson
1478
01:11:22,939 --> 01:11:30,589
was a marked man and he approached me
1479
01:11:25,908 --> 01:11:32,779
and said it's time to publicize the CDC
1480
01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:36,260
whistleblower ironically 12 years later
1481
01:11:32,779 --> 01:11:38,000
while Thompson is baring his soul to
1482
01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:40,610
brian hooker in front of Congress
1483
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:44,420
Colleen Boyle is just peddling the same
1484
01:11:40,609 --> 01:11:46,189
old CDC fraud but this time it's to a
1485
01:11:44,420 --> 01:11:49,579
new player and that's congressman Bill
1486
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:52,729
Posey from Florida I wonder if the CDC
1487
01:11:49,579 --> 01:11:54,380
has conducted her facilitated study
1488
01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:56,149
comparing vaccinated children with
1489
01:11:54,380 --> 01:11:58,310
unvaccinated children yet have you done
1490
01:11:56,149 --> 01:12:00,259
that we have actually done a number of
1491
01:11:58,310 --> 01:12:03,830
studies looking at the relationship
1492
01:12:00,260 --> 01:12:06,050
between thimerosal vaccines and autism
1493
01:12:03,829 --> 01:12:08,389
and other developmental disability the
1494
01:12:06,050 --> 01:12:11,690
lies from the CDC were still the same
1495
01:12:08,389 --> 01:12:13,880
the difference now is we had William
1496
01:12:11,689 --> 01:12:20,979
Thompson vaccines and their components
1497
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:23,710
did not increase so clearly definitely
1498
01:12:20,979 --> 01:12:27,500
unequivocally you have studied
1499
01:12:23,710 --> 01:12:31,869
vaccinated versus unvaccinated we have
1500
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:31,869
not studied vaccinated versus I'm back
1501
01:12:32,710 --> 01:12:37,069
meaning you my question you wasted two
1502
01:12:34,819 --> 01:12:39,380
minutes one time Brian had also
1503
01:12:37,069 --> 01:12:40,849
submitted a related paper to a journal
1504
01:12:39,380 --> 01:12:43,550
called Nature Neuroscience and
1505
01:12:40,850 --> 01:12:46,880
paper he had specifically referred to an
1506
01:12:43,550 --> 01:12:48,800
unnamed source at the CDC and my worst
1507
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,170
fears were realized when a journalist
1508
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,810
from Nature Neuroscience contacted the
1509
01:12:51,170 --> 01:12:56,060
CDC contacted Walter Ornstein the
1510
01:12:53,810 --> 01:12:57,860
message went on to Frank de Stefano who
1511
01:12:56,060 --> 01:13:00,410
sent it out to the co-authors saying
1512
01:12:57,859 --> 01:13:04,189
keep your heads down this may be coming
1513
01:13:00,409 --> 01:13:05,630
your way their fear was all of a sudden
1514
01:13:04,189 --> 01:13:08,659
we'd be dredging the river for Bill
1515
01:13:05,630 --> 01:13:10,880
Thompson I said to him Brian we've got
1516
01:13:08,659 --> 01:13:13,130
to do three things we have got to get
1517
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:15,260
Thompson a whistleblower lawyer we've
1518
01:13:13,130 --> 01:13:18,440
got to make sure that his documents are
1519
01:13:15,260 --> 01:13:21,800
with Posey and we've got to reveal his
1520
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:24,829
name whistleblowers are in danger only
1521
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:30,949
as long as the only people who know
1522
01:13:24,829 --> 01:13:34,489
their identity are their enemies do
1523
01:13:30,949 --> 01:13:37,279
vaccines cause autism in the last 30
1524
01:13:34,489 --> 01:13:40,369
years the childhood vaccine schedule has
1525
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:44,090
tripled while the u.s. autism rate has
1526
01:13:40,369 --> 01:13:45,069
skyrocketed from one in 10,000 to one in
1527
01:13:44,090 --> 01:13:48,260
50
1528
01:13:45,069 --> 01:13:51,699
dozens of published research papers show
1529
01:13:48,260 --> 01:13:54,710
that yes vaccines and autism are linked
1530
01:13:51,699 --> 01:13:57,920
yet the debate rages on in part because
1531
01:13:54,710 --> 01:14:00,680
of the 1986 national childhood vaccine
1532
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,109
injury Act passed by Congress as a
1533
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:05,300
result of pharmaceutical lobbying it
1534
01:14:03,109 --> 01:14:07,819
shields drug companies from liability
1535
01:14:05,300 --> 01:14:10,940
for injuries and deaths caused by the
1536
01:14:07,819 --> 01:14:12,939
vaccines they manufacture vaccines that
1537
01:14:10,939 --> 01:14:16,429
the federal government admits are
1538
01:14:12,939 --> 01:14:18,859
unavoidably unsafe instead of suing the
1539
01:14:16,430 --> 01:14:21,020
pharmaceutical company directly parents
1540
01:14:18,859 --> 01:14:23,509
are forced to petition the Department of
1541
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:26,090
Health and Human Services and if federal
1542
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:28,070
health officials oppose compensation the
1543
01:14:26,090 --> 01:14:31,400
case is argued before a Special Master
1544
01:14:28,069 --> 01:14:34,460
in the u.s. claims court many refer to
1545
01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:36,829
this as vaccine court here are some
1546
01:14:34,460 --> 01:14:39,980
shocking facts about the so called
1547
01:14:36,829 --> 01:14:42,050
vaccine court pharmaceutical companies
1548
01:14:39,979 --> 01:14:45,859
do not have to participate in the
1549
01:14:42,050 --> 01:14:48,890
proceedings at all taxpayers pay for all
1550
01:14:45,859 --> 01:14:51,500
damages the US Department of Justice
1551
01:14:48,890 --> 01:14:53,270
acts as the government's lawyer with
1552
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:55,630
taxpayers footing the bill for their
1553
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:55,630
defense
1554
01:14:58,229 --> 01:15:04,329
beginning in 2002 there were already
1555
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:06,730
thousands of cases accumulating in
1556
01:15:04,329 --> 01:15:08,829
vaccine court and the average
1557
01:15:06,729 --> 01:15:11,409
compensation for autistic child is in
1558
01:15:08,829 --> 01:15:13,329
the range of five million dollars so
1559
01:15:11,409 --> 01:15:15,909
just do the math the government is
1560
01:15:13,329 --> 01:15:18,250
facing several hundred billion possibly
1561
01:15:15,909 --> 01:15:21,849
a trillion dollars in liability as the
1562
01:15:18,250 --> 01:15:24,220
autism epidemic grew they had to develop
1563
01:15:21,850 --> 01:15:27,430
a fraudulent study that would exonerate
1564
01:15:24,220 --> 01:15:29,590
MMR to deliberately defeat the cases in
1565
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:31,810
vaccine court to avoid paying the
1566
01:15:29,590 --> 01:15:34,659
trillion dollars so the thousands of
1567
01:15:31,810 --> 01:15:38,350
autism petitioners were denied their
1568
01:15:34,659 --> 01:15:41,590
fare day in court by a corrupt and
1569
01:15:38,350 --> 01:15:43,600
deliberate obstruction of justice it is
1570
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:47,140
one of the most unethical medical
1571
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:49,390
decisions of all time because it was
1572
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:52,630
made with knowledge to sacrifice these
1573
01:15:49,390 --> 01:15:54,940
children as an indirect affront to the
1574
01:15:52,630 --> 01:15:57,750
congressional mandate that they may all
1575
01:15:54,939 --> 01:15:57,750
be compensated
1576
01:16:07,899 --> 01:16:13,189
in the fall of last year I got a call
1577
01:16:10,699 --> 01:16:14,599
from an inside source who told me that
1578
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:17,210
in two weeks there's gonna be a
1579
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,460
whistleblower from the CDC who is going
1580
01:16:17,210 --> 01:16:21,980
to come out and say that the CDC had
1581
01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:24,289
committed fraud on the MMR study and
1582
01:16:21,979 --> 01:16:27,409
that they knew that vaccines were
1583
01:16:24,289 --> 01:16:30,619
actually causing autism I mean that's a
1584
01:16:27,409 --> 01:16:32,689
huge story unfortunately was a story I
1585
01:16:30,619 --> 01:16:34,519
would not be able to tell on a medical
1586
01:16:32,689 --> 01:16:35,569
talk show because a lot of our funding
1587
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,820
was coming from the pharmaceutical
1588
01:16:35,569 --> 01:16:39,590
industry and we were also very good
1589
01:16:37,819 --> 01:16:42,859
friends with the CDC who had appeared on
1590
01:16:39,590 --> 01:16:45,860
our show many many times but I knew that
1591
01:16:42,859 --> 01:16:48,529
once this story broke two weeks later
1592
01:16:45,859 --> 01:16:50,929
that the mainstream news media would
1593
01:16:48,529 --> 01:16:52,759
pick it up Fox would be on it CNN was
1594
01:16:50,930 --> 01:16:55,490
would be on MSNBC we're talking about
1595
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:58,970
the biggest medical story in the last
1596
01:16:55,489 --> 01:17:01,309
decade or two at least so that two weeks
1597
01:16:58,970 --> 01:17:03,230
came I saw the video that was posted by
1598
01:17:01,310 --> 01:17:05,390
Andrew Wakefield and Brian hooker and I
1599
01:17:03,229 --> 01:17:08,329
heard the words of William Thompson and
1600
01:17:05,390 --> 01:17:14,060
his confession oh my god I cannot
1601
01:17:08,329 --> 01:17:17,359
believe we did what we did we did it's
1602
01:17:14,060 --> 01:17:21,140
all there and I watched the blogosphere
1603
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though crazy tweets Facebook social
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media everybody talking about it but not
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one mainstream media source went
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anywhere near the story in fact on CNN
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someone put the story up on I report and
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CNN took it down and in that moment I
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realized wait a minute not only is my
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medical talk-show being produced by the
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pharmaceutical industry all of
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television is we were never going to get
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this story but we certainly did get a
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story a highly contagious measles
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outbreak major outbreak measles
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outbreaks measles on the march in
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America this outbreak is showing no
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signs of letting up in 2014 the number
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tripled to 644 measles cases reported in
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27 states it's a really amazing to
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consider the
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a number of cases of autism every year
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is and to contrast that to let's say the
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number of children who acquired measles
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by going to Disneyland
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it's a tiny number of children who
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acquired measles and it's a vast number
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of children who are being diagnosed with
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autism every day we don't know what
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causes autism I mean that's fair to say
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we're not sure the scientic community
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what causes autism but we know that
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vaccines do not now I'm not saying that
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Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy in fact I
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think that he tries to do a lot of good
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just like many doctors do but if they're
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being lied to by the scientific body
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that provides them with their
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information what happens to all of us
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what happens if a good doctor sees the
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same data that I saw so you're you're a
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scientist basically so you're studying
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this and you feel a hundred percent
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comfortable you even said you have kids
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so you're your family person
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you would feel very how long have you
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been a doctor in sort of what's your
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area of specialty sure I've been a
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family medicine physician for over ten
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years now in treating families everyone
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from newborns all the way up to my
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oldest patient is 96
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so do you administer vaccines as part of
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that yes I do administer vaccines in our
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clinic we followed the CDC
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recommendations and we give that
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information to our patients and we give
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them a schedule of when their children
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are going to need to be vaccinated and
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so on and so forth there's something I
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want to show you this is the formal
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complaint about what they've been given
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by William Thompson whistleblowing was
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he you see okay there's all sorts of
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reference materials in here and things
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like that I'm just gonna give you time
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to look at it study it as long as you
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want okay when you feel like you have a
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grasp of it it's going to get I know
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it's gonna take some time appreciate you
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taking the time all right okay so I have
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sent you what William Thompson has said
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is the fraud at the CDC all of that data
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that was missing did you get a chance to
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really look it over
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it's sides it's really unbelievable how
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blatantly the data was switched around
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it made me question whether or not this
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organization that's been mandating how I
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practice medicine for the past ten years
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but if they're lying about this or
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leaving data out about this particular
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study what else am I being lied to about
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I'm still trying to digest it because
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this study which was used to kind of
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give the definitive answer to us
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pediatricians that oh the MMR is not
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related to autism I kind of feel like
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I've been lied to when they set out to
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do the study they wanted to look at the
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data and interpret the data but then
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there's a piece of data that they chose
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to ignore the data they excluded was
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really really significant think about
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it's a big deal it is a big deal for a
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physician to have to deal with the fact
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that for the past 10 20 years we've been
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potentially destroying the brains of
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children everything I've been telling my
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patients for the last ten years it has
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been based on a lie and a cover-up
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parents making decisions about their
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children's health deserve to have the
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best information available to them they
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should be able to count on federal
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agencies to tell them the truth
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once Brian and I had outed bill Thompson
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he got himself a whistleblower lawyer he
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provided all of his documents on the
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fraudulent CDC study to congressman
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Posey who then went before the Congress
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as well as the involvement of the CDC a
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hearing and a thorough investigation is
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warranted so I asked Mr Speaker I I beg
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I implore my colleagues on the
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appropriations committees to please
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please take such action thank you Mr
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Speaker I yield back
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it's now been seven months since
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congressman Bill Posey urged the
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Congress to subpoena bill Thompson and
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they have done nothing
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bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by
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Congress as a CDC employee from the
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federal government he cannot speak
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voluntarily because in the threat of
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jail time
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absolutely William Thompson needs to go
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before Congress he does go before the
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whole nation everybody needs to see what
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he has to say
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he needs to be deposed in front of a
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committee in Congress and Julie Gerber
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ding has to be brought in and deposed
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that's because this is a very very very
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disturbing it revelation for this
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researcher to come forward and be saying
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now that they were indeed deliberately
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concealing critical information about an
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MMR autism Lane horrible horrible
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development deviation from an analysis
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plan a mission of crucial data
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destruction of documents obstruction of
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justice
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misleading the Congress grievous harm to
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innocent children this has to be
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investigated you and I are in agreement
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vaccine safety should not be in the CDC
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with an agency like the National
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Transportation Safety Board the next
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thing they need to do is they need to
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somebody needs to reintroduce the weld
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of Maloney bill it needs to be very very
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quickly enacted and you need to take all
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of the vaccine safety responsibilities
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out of the CDC these children have been
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maimed by the actions of Colleen Boyle
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Frank de Stefano
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marceline Juergen Alsop and Tanya bass
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in my son has been debilitated for 17
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years I think jail time is too good for
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these individuals who have perpetrated
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such fraud the notion of vaccinating
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children protecting children against
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serious infectious disease with vaccines
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that are safe and effective is laudable
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you hear about measles outbreaks in
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Disneyland and then they try and sell
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you MMR we didn't see autism being
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reported as a consequence of the single
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vaccine only of the triple vaccine so my
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feeling
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is that we need to review vaccination
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policy across the board but in the first
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instance I do believe we can make the
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problem far less if we separate those
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vaccines out into their single measles
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mumps and rubella I just cannot imagine
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what it will be like if we really do
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face a future in which half the children
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born end up on the autism spectrum I
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mean it will be so disruptive of the
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school system there'll be so little
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money to be able to spend on the normal
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children to help them to bring them up
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and to educate them we're just gonna
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have extremely sick children and parents
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that will be so distracted by by the
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challenge of bringing up these these
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children that are so sick that our
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society will not be able to focus on
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anything else the implications of that
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for our country for our competitiveness
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as a nation for our economy are massive
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they must know and they do know that
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there's a national emergency I mean this
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is gonna be a complete catastrophe if we
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just let it happen what will you say
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the next time a mother sitting there
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with her baby in the hands it's a doctor
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rachel is the MMR vaccine safe I'm gonna
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tell her I'm gonna say you know honestly
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I'm not gonna give them our vaccine to
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my babies and here's why
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