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Behind a strip center face-down with his hands tied behind his

with his hands tied behind his back.

Back. >> we were all just belief and

>> we were all just belief and thinking, "no, it can't be

thinking, "no, it can't be him."

him." >> it was not only one. It was

>> it was not only one. It was two cold-blooded murders.

Two cold-blooded murders. >> in the residence, there was

>> in the residence, there was a great deal of blood. We found

a great deal of blood. We found what would be described as a

what would be described as a makeshift coffin.

Makeshift coffin. >> it was pure profit, and it

>> it was pure profit, and it was pure evil that they would

was pure evil that they would do these things to different

do these things to different people.

People. >> a sex ad had been placed.

>> a sex ad had been placed. The ad was for, "have sex with

the ad was for, "have sex with me. My husband likes to watch."

me. My husband likes to watch." >> he was not going to pull

>> he was not going to pull over willingly. I was

over willingly. I was absolutely in fear of my life.

Absolutely in fear of my life. >> five unique perspectives.

>> five unique perspectives. Five points of view. One

five points of view. One murder.

Murder. >> I'm rudy lopes'niece.

>> I'm rudy lopes'niece. >> my name is butch matjeka.

>> my name is butch matjeka. >> my name is dan downing.

>> my name is dan downing. >> I was the lead investigator.

>> I was the lead investigator. >> I was lead prosecutor.

>> I was lead prosecutor. >> I was convicted of capital

>> I was convicted of capital murder in 2003.

Murder in 2003. >> I'm nicole acosta, and I am

>> I'm nicole acosta, and I am rudy lopes'niece. My tío rudy

rudy lopes'niece. My tío rudy was one of my favorite uncles.

Was one of my favorite uncles. He grew up in san antonio. He

he grew up in san antonio. He had two very loving parents. He

had two very loving parents. He would always encourage my

would always encourage my cousin and I to get good grades,

cousin and I to get good grades, and every time we got an "a" on

and every time we got an "a" on our report card, we would go to

our report card, we would go to a restaurant. And he was just

a restaurant. And he was just an overall, like, loving

an overall, like, loving person. He would bring my aunt

person. He would bring my aunt flowers just because it was,

flowers just because it was, you know, Tuesday. He was

you know, Tuesday. He was working as sheriff at the jail,

working as sheriff at the jail, bexar county. He wore that

bexar county. He wore that badge with a lot of pride. He

badge with a lot of pride. He was able to climb the ranks

was able to climb the ranks there at the bexar county jail

there at the bexar county jail as a sheriff. He was very, very

as a sheriff. He was very, very proud and very determined to

proud and very determined to move up. And, you know, he

move up. And, you know, he loved to do what he did. If

loved to do what he did. If anyone was doing anything

anyone was doing anything incorrectly or wrong, we would

incorrectly or wrong, we would tell them, you know, "my tío

tell them, you know, "my tío rudy's the sheriff, so he's

rudy's the sheriff, so he's gonna come get you."

gonna come get you." >> tío rudy and my tía alma

>> tío rudy and my tía alma were honestly a love story. The

were honestly a love story. The way they just got along

way they just got along together, they never fought in

together, they never fought in front of us, and I'm not even

front of us, and I'm not even sure if they even fought about

sure if they even fought about anything. When my tío rudy and

anything. When my tío rudy and my tía alma got married, I was

my tía alma got married, I was maybe a couple of months old.

Maybe a couple of months old. They just loved each other so

they just loved each other so much, and you could tell every

much, and you could tell every time, you know, at family

time, you know, at family events, tío rudy and tía alma

events, tío rudy and tía alma were always together. And they

were always together. And they would go to the coast every

would go to the coast every single year for their

single year for their anniversary. And actually, that

anniversary. And actually, that year he was planning to go on a

year he was planning to go on a cruise. The night of October

cruise. The night of October 11th, my tío rudy didn't show

11th, my tío rudy didn't show up at home. At first, my tía

up at home. At first, my tía alma was like, "oh, you know,

alma was like, "oh, you know, maybe he picked up a second job,

maybe he picked up a second job, " maybe, you know, he went out

" maybe, you know, he went out with his friends and just

with his friends and just forgot to tell her. When he

forgot to tell her. When he wasn't answering his phone, he

wasn't answering his phone, he still hadn't showed up hours

still hadn't showed up hours later, she had called missing

later, she had called missing persons and reached out to our

persons and reached out to our family friend, who was also in

family friend, who was also in the sheriff's department. I

the sheriff's department. I know this is very, very unlike

know this is very, very unlike my uncle rudy to not show up,

my uncle rudy to not show up, not call. In the morning of

not call. In the morning of Friday the 13th, I woke up at

Friday the 13th, I woke up at 3:00 in the morning and tried

3:00 in the morning and tried to go back to sleep. And then I

to go back to sleep. And then I heard the phone ringing. It

heard the phone ringing. It just kept ringing and ringing,

just kept ringing and ringing, and so finally, I was sitting

and so finally, I was sitting up. I was about to go answer it,

up. I was about to go answer it, to figure out who's calling at

to figure out who's calling at this time. And then I heard my

this time. And then I heard my mom's footsteps and she

mom's footsteps and she answered the phone. And -- and

answered the phone. And -- and she just started crying. I was

she just started crying. I was in the fourth grade at the time,

in the fourth grade at the time, so I didn't know what was

so I didn't know what was happening. So I went to go

happening. So I went to go comfort her. And then she told

comfort her. And then she told me that my uncle had been shot.

Me that my uncle had been shot. Our family friend actually knew

our family friend actually knew what had happened to my uncle

what had happened to my uncle rudy, but wasn't able to tell

rudy, but wasn't able to tell my tía alma over the phone

my tía alma over the phone 'cause it wasn't correct

'cause it wasn't correct protocol. I believe it was two

protocol. I believe it was two deputies who showed up to break

deputies who showed up to break the news to her, about where he

the news to her, about where he was found and that he was

was found and that he was found. She couldn't believe it.

Found. She couldn't believe it. And she was like, "no, not my

and she was like, "no, not my rudy. It can't be." like the

rudy. It can't be." like the rest of the family, too, that

rest of the family, too, that he's no longer with us.

He's no longer with us.

>> my name is butch matjeka, and I was the lead investigator

and I was the lead investigator on the murder of rudy lopes. On

on the murder of rudy lopes. On October 12, 2000, it was late

October 12, 2000, it was late in the afternoon. I was getting

in the afternoon. I was getting ready to go home. Our shift was

ready to go home. Our shift was just about ending. And our

just about ending. And our office got a call for a doa, a

office got a call for a doa, a body that was found out behind

body that was found out behind a strip center off thousand

a strip center off thousand oaks in north san antonio.

Oaks in north san antonio. Rudy's body was found by some

rudy's body was found by some young girls who were walking

young girls who were walking behind the strip center. Course,

behind the strip center. Course, they became very scared, ran

they became very scared, ran home, and parents were the ones

home, and parents were the ones that made the 9-1-1 call. He

that made the 9-1-1 call. He was face-down with his hands

was face-down with his hands tied behind his back. He had

tied behind his back. He had another piece of cloth or a

another piece of cloth or a shirt that was wrapped around

shirt that was wrapped around his eyes as a kind of a

his eyes as a kind of a blindfold. We didn't get a lot

blindfold. We didn't get a lot of information from the girls.

Of information from the girls. So we began what we call a

so we began what we call a canvass. We start knocking on

canvass. We start knocking on doors, talking to people and

doors, talking to people and see if they heard anything, if

see if they heard anything, if they saw anything. The owner of

they saw anything. The owner of the karate school, charles

the karate school, charles dudley, he told us that the

dudley, he told us that the night before, as he was closing

night before, as he was closing up, he saw a newer model chevy

up, he saw a newer model chevy truck pull into the area at the

truck pull into the area at the end of the strip center and go

end of the strip center and go around behind it. And rudy had

around behind it. And rudy had a brand new 2000 chevy truck,

a brand new 2000 chevy truck, dual cab, gold in color.

Dual cab, gold in color. Considering the time of the

considering the time of the night, it was still fairly

night, it was still fairly early, 9:00. I don't think he

early, 9:00. I don't think he really thought anything illegal

really thought anything illegal was going on. It was just

was going on. It was just unusual for him to see it. And

unusual for him to see it. And of course, it drew his

of course, it drew his attention because that's his

attention because that's his business. We didn't get much

business. We didn't get much from anybody else in the strip

from anybody else in the strip center, but as the story came

center, but as the story came out on the news, we had a

out on the news, we had a police officer that called us

police officer that called us the very next day and told us

the very next day and told us that while he was on patrol, he

that while he was on patrol, he heard a gunshot go off. So with

heard a gunshot go off. So with what mr. Dudley told us and

what mr. Dudley told us and what the officer told us about

what the officer told us about the time of hearing the gunshot,

the time of hearing the gunshot, we were able to place rudy's

we were able to place rudy's death around 10:00 that night.

Death around 10:00 that night. We went and talked to alma

we went and talked to alma lopes, rudy's wife. We learned

lopes, rudy's wife. We learned that rudy had worked in the

that rudy had worked in the jail. He was a jail sergeant at

jail. He was a jail sergeant at the time, had a good

the time, had a good reputation. Alma never gave us

reputation. Alma never gave us any indication that rudy had

any indication that rudy had any threats made, that anybody

any threats made, that anybody was out for revenge from the

was out for revenge from the jail. The only thing that kind

jail. The only thing that kind of drew our attention was she

of drew our attention was she told us that they were having

told us that they were having some difficulty in the

some difficulty in the marriage. It had been some time

marriage. It had been some time since they had been together.

Since they had been together. We pulled his bank records. We

we pulled his bank records. We pulled all of his phone

pulled all of his phone records. Basically just threw

records. Basically just threw out a wide net. "let's see

out a wide net. "let's see where he's been. Let's see what

where he's been. Let's see what he's been doing." as we looked

he's been doing." as we looked through his financial records,

through his financial records, what we did see was there was a

what we did see was there was a purchase made at frederick's of

purchase made at frederick's of hollywood. I think it was

hollywood. I think it was around $90. Alma told us he

around $90. Alma told us he hadn't brought anything home

hadn't brought anything home from frederick's. So at that

from frederick's. So at that point, we started to believe

point, we started to believe that we might be looking at

that we might be looking at some type of an affair, but we

some type of an affair, but we weren't really sure what we

weren't really sure what we were looking at yet. We sent a

were looking at yet. We sent a team of investigators to

team of investigators to frederick's of hollywood to

frederick's of hollywood to look into this. Clerks see so

look into this. Clerks see so many people throughout the day.

Many people throughout the day. It's hard for them to remember.

It's hard for them to remember. But amazingly, the clerk in

but amazingly, the clerk in this particular case did

this particular case did remember rudy from the

remember rudy from the description. She also

description. She also remembered that when rudy came

remembered that when rudy came in, he was with two people, a

in, he was with two people, a young girl and another male.

Young girl and another male. And her idea, when this

and her idea, when this purchase was made, was that

purchase was made, was that rudy was buying the negligee

rudy was buying the negligee for the young girl. We asked

for the young girl. We asked about whether he seemed to be

about whether he seemed to be coerced. And her response to us

coerced. And her response to us was, "no, this was very willing,

was, "no, this was very willing, very voluntary." there was

very voluntary." there was nothing that would give her any

nothing that would give her any indication that anything was

indication that anything was wrong at that time. As we

wrong at that time. As we continued to look through

continued to look through rudy's financial records, we

rudy's financial records, we found out that there were two

found out that there were two withdrawals from an atm machine

withdrawals from an atm machine from rudy's bank on the day

from rudy's bank on the day that we believe he was

that we believe he was kidnapped and murdered. One of

kidnapped and murdered. One of the withdrawals was for $100.

The withdrawals was for $100. The other withdrawal was for

the other withdrawal was for $300. We went to rudy's bank,

$300. We went to rudy's bank, and they were able to find

and they were able to find video footage that showed a

video footage that showed a young girl driving a -- what

young girl driving a -- what appears to be a newer chevy

appears to be a newer chevy model truck, leaning out the

model truck, leaning out the window, putting in the pin

window, putting in the pin number and making both

number and making both withdrawals before she drove

withdrawals before she drove away. Rudy wasn't in the video.

Away. Rudy wasn't in the video. So we continued to look through

so we continued to look through his telephone records, and we

his telephone records, and we found a number of calls that

found a number of calls that had been placed to a number of

had been placed to a number of hotels along the ih-35 corridor

hotels along the ih-35 corridor in san antonio. We sent a team

in san antonio. We sent a team of investigators to the hotels.

Of investigators to the hotels. And again, thankfully, we came

and again, thankfully, we came across a clerk who remembered

across a clerk who remembered the calls being made. They

the calls being made. They showed her the picture from the

showed her the picture from the atm. The clerk remembered the

atm. The clerk remembered the woman and identified her from

woman and identified her from checking in as a girl named

checking in as a girl named trina dorris. Well, we don't

trina dorris. Well, we don't have a lot of information on

have a lot of information on trina dorris, other than her

trina dorris, other than her name. So, there's not a whole

name. So, there's not a whole lot we can do. We continue to

lot we can do. We continue to comb through his telephone

comb through his telephone records, and we find a phone

records, and we find a phone number that he made four phone

number that he made four phone calls to the day he died. That

calls to the day he died. That comes back to a robert brown.

Comes back to a robert brown. We went to talk to mr. Brown.

We went to talk to mr. Brown. When we talked to mr. Brown, he

when we talked to mr. Brown, he remembered rudy lopes calling

remembered rudy lopes calling his home, trying to get in

his home, trying to get in touch with a woman who had been

touch with a woman who had been staying with him. He also

staying with him. He also identified the woman as trina

identified the woman as trina dorris. He also told us that

dorris. He also told us that she was with a man who

she was with a man who identified himself as mo.

Identified himself as mo. Robert brown had contacted

robert brown had contacted trina dorris and mo at the time

trina dorris and mo at the time in response to a sex ad that

in response to a sex ad that had been placed in a magazine

had been placed in a magazine in san antonio called "the

in san antonio called "the current." the ad was for, "have

current." the ad was for, "have sex with me. My husband likes

sex with me. My husband likes to watch." that never happened,

to watch." that never happened, although the promise of sex

although the promise of sex kept coming. They told him they

kept coming. They told him they were from out of town. They

were from out of town. They didn't have a place to stay. He

didn't have a place to stay. He allowed them to come to the

allowed them to come to the house and stay with him for a

house and stay with him for a couple of nights. He remembered

couple of nights. He remembered that on the day that rudy lopes

that on the day that rudy lopes was killed, rudy called his

was killed, rudy called his house four times looking for

house four times looking for trina, trying to get in touch

trina, trying to get in touch with her. Rudy had been

with her. Rudy had been scheduled to meet with her,

scheduled to meet with her, allegedly to have sex that day.

Allegedly to have sex that day. Robert did tell us that trina

robert did tell us that trina was a dancer, and she was going

was a dancer, and she was going out looking for work as a

out looking for work as a dancer. And so, what that

dancer. And so, what that necessitated was for the

necessitated was for the homicide unit to visit almost

homicide unit to visit almost every strip club there was in

every strip club there was in san antonio at that time. We

san antonio at that time. We sent investigators out

sent investigators out primarily around the area where

primarily around the area where he worked, but we did visit as

he worked, but we did visit as many strip clubs as we possibly

many strip clubs as we possibly could. We got lucky. We

could. We got lucky. We actually found a strip club on

actually found a strip club on 410, where trina was working

410, where trina was working for a short period of time. And

for a short period of time. And in finding that, we were able

in finding that, we were able to get her driver's license.

To get her driver's license. Now we have something we can

now we have something we can look into for trina dorris.

Look into for trina dorris.

>> my name's dan downing. I'm one of the investigators that

one of the investigators that worked a murder case just south

worked a murder case just south of indianapolis in 2000. We

of indianapolis in 2000. We received information from san

received information from san antonio officials that they had

antonio officials that they had a similar case with an

a similar case with an individual that was shot and

individual that was shot and killed there, rudy lopes. There

killed there, rudy lopes. There were some differences in rudy

were some differences in rudy lopes'death. However, they were

lopes'death. However, they were both bound behind the back.

Both bound behind the back. Both of the individuals were

both of the individuals were shot in the head. Just prior to

shot in the head. Just prior to 8:00 a.M., I was notified by

8:00 a.M., I was notified by our communications center of a

our communications center of a request for investigators at a

request for investigators at a residence. I spoke with our

residence. I spoke with our uniformed officers that were on

uniformed officers that were on the scene. They kind of gave me

the scene. They kind of gave me the rundown of what had taken

the rundown of what had taken place. The homeowner was found

place. The homeowner was found in the trunk of a burning

in the trunk of a burning vehicle just north of morgan

vehicle just north of morgan county. A passerby reported the

county. A passerby reported the car fire. It was just off of a

car fire. It was just off of a state highway. We learned via

state highway. We learned via dental records that it was

dental records that it was robby bott. He was an airplane

robby bott. He was an airplane mechanic locally here in

mechanic locally here in indianapolis. Basically, a

indianapolis. Basically, a divorced father, kept to

divorced father, kept to himself. Mr. Bott's home was

himself. Mr. Bott's home was extremely neat. Everything had

extremely neat. Everything had a place, and you could tell

a place, and you could tell that it was very well taken

that it was very well taken care of, but items were

care of, but items were missing. So, there were

missing. So, there were imprints from where a stereo

imprints from where a stereo would have been sitting and

would have been sitting and different electronic items in

different electronic items in the house. We found in the

the house. We found in the kitchen area two chairs that

kitchen area two chairs that were facing each other and a

were facing each other and a large pile of cigarette ashes

large pile of cigarette ashes to the side of one of those

to the side of one of those chairs. There was also a small

chairs. There was also a small amount of blood droplets that

amount of blood droplets that were located around the chair.

Were located around the chair. That went along with our theory

that went along with our theory that some type of an

that some type of an interrogation or negotiation

interrogation or negotiation that had taken place there in

that had taken place there in the kitchen because they were

the kitchen because they were low-velocity droplets, like

low-velocity droplets, like someone had been struck. There

someone had been struck. There were a couple fingerprints, but

were a couple fingerprints, but the majority of the surfaces,

the majority of the surfaces, as we printed every surface in

as we printed every surface in the residence, we found that

the residence, we found that they had been wiped off. On day

they had been wiped off. On day two of the investigation, we

two of the investigation, we received a call from the

received a call from the speedway police department that

speedway police department that an identification belonging to

an identification belonging to robby bott had been located in

robby bott had been located in a rental property in speedway.

A rental property in speedway. The actual landlord had been

the actual landlord had been evicting his current tenants.

Evicting his current tenants. He had hired a cleaning crew to

he had hired a cleaning crew to come in and clean out all the

come in and clean out all the property of the tenants that

property of the tenants that were living in the residence.

Were living in the residence. When they lifted up a couch

when they lifted up a couch cushion, they found a .22 rifle

cushion, they found a .22 rifle and also the wallet. There was

and also the wallet. There was a great deal of blood that went

a great deal of blood that went from the garage area through

from the garage area through the service door into the

the service door into the residence, and then down the

residence, and then down the stairway. Once we got to the

stairway. Once we got to the basement, we found a wardrobe

basement, we found a wardrobe that was lying on its back and

that was lying on its back and had a padlock hasp attached to

had a padlock hasp attached to the front of it. There was a

the front of it. There was a bullet projectile that was in

bullet projectile that was in the box itself. There was also

the box itself. There was also a pillow that had a

a pillow that had a through-and-through gunshot

through-and-through gunshot wound, which would have been

wound, which would have been indicative to using a pillow

indicative to using a pillow over the end of a firearm as a

over the end of a firearm as a suppressor to muffle the sound.

Suppressor to muffle the sound. A lot of the items that we

a lot of the items that we found missing from mr. Bott's

found missing from mr. Bott's house were now being utilized

house were now being utilized in the speedway home. It

in the speedway home. It started to become more apparent

started to become more apparent that mr. Bott was encountered

that mr. Bott was encountered at his residence in some way

at his residence in some way and then taken to the secondary

and then taken to the secondary location in speedway, where he

location in speedway, where he was then kept for a period of

was then kept for a period of time until his final demise.

Time until his final demise. Initially, we found some credit

initially, we found some credit card receipts at mr. Bott's

card receipts at mr. Bott's residence. The wallet did not

residence. The wallet did not have any credit cards. So we

have any credit cards. So we started running through the

started running through the different credit services mr.

Different credit services mr. Bott's information in an

bott's information in an attempt to find out or trace

attempt to find out or trace his last steps. We found that

his last steps. We found that during the timeframe that mr.

During the timeframe that mr. Bott was abducted, he had went

bott was abducted, he had went to several locations and

to several locations and actually purchased numerous

actually purchased numerous household items. Generally,

household items. Generally, people don't go on a shopping

people don't go on a shopping spree right before their death.

Spree right before their death. We sent investigators to those

we sent investigators to those specific merchants to hopefully

specific merchants to hopefully obtain surveillance video. In

obtain surveillance video. In one of the stores, mr. Bott was

one of the stores, mr. Bott was walking along, pushing a

walking along, pushing a shopping cart that was full of

shopping cart that was full of numerous items. He was

numerous items. He was accompanied by a female. Mr.

Accompanied by a female. Mr. Bott is shown in the video

bott is shown in the video looking up at the camera and

looking up at the camera and mouthing, "help me." during the

mouthing, "help me." during the examination of the bank records,

examination of the bank records, we found that there were

we found that there were purchases not only here in

purchases not only here in indiana at a local sex shop,

indiana at a local sex shop, but also in san antonio, texas,

but also in san antonio, texas, at a similar type of shop. We

at a similar type of shop. We also know that there's a female

also know that there's a female that's involved. So we also go

that's involved. So we also go back to mr. Bott's residence.

Back to mr. Bott's residence. We found in the master bedroom

we found in the master bedroom but there was an empty condom

but there was an empty condom wrapper lying on the floor next

wrapper lying on the floor next to the bed. We also found that

to the bed. We also found that the bed sheets of the master

the bed sheets of the master bedroom were gone. So at that

bedroom were gone. So at that point, we're looking at, "was

point, we're looking at, "was this a sexual encounter gone

this a sexual encounter gone wrong? Was this some type of

wrong? Was this some type of hook-up, some type of a

hook-up, some type of a prostitution element that had

prostitution element that had went wrong for mr. Bott? "

went wrong for mr. Bott? " during communications with san

during communications with san antonio police department, we

antonio police department, we learned that, through credit

learned that, through credit card statements, there were

card statements, there were purchases made in san antonio,

purchases made in san antonio, texas, and they had a similar

texas, and they had a similar case with an individual that

case with an individual that was shot and killed there and a

was shot and killed there and a male and female suspect who may

male and female suspect who may have been using aliases,

have been using aliases, possibly a trina dorris and a

possibly a trina dorris and a male by the name of mo. We were

male by the name of mo. We were able to identify trina dorris,

able to identify trina dorris, speak with her, and send

speak with her, and send photographs to san antonio

photographs to san antonio police department so that they

police department so that they can compare with their videos.

Can compare with their videos. It was not trina dorris. The

it was not trina dorris. The landlord in speedway was

landlord in speedway was forthcoming with the

forthcoming with the information of who was renting

information of who was renting from him at that point time. He

from him at that point time. He had originally made an

had originally made an agreement with the individuals

agreement with the individuals that were living there that

that were living there that they were gonna do some

they were gonna do some maintenance to the residence in

maintenance to the residence in lieu of paying rent. They

lieu of paying rent. They hadn't been doing the

hadn't been doing the maintenance they agreed to, so

maintenance they agreed to, so he was going to evict them. The

he was going to evict them. The folks that actually rented the

folks that actually rented the place was tess mcfarland and

place was tess mcfarland and joshua maxwell. Trina was a

joshua maxwell. Trina was a friend of tess mcfarland and

friend of tess mcfarland and apparently had been using her

apparently had been using her information as an alias. We

information as an alias. We were able to run criminal

were able to run criminal histories and obtain booking

histories and obtain booking photos of both those

photos of both those individuals. We then compared

individuals. We then compared all of those photographs

all of those photographs against the videos here in

against the videos here in indiana, as well as the video

indiana, as well as the video from san antonio, texas, to

from san antonio, texas, to confirm that the people we were

confirm that the people we were looking for, in fact, was tess

looking for, in fact, was tess mcfarland and joshua maxwell.

Mcfarland and joshua maxwell.

>> my name is tessie mcfarland. I was born in the outskirts of

I was born in the outskirts of indianapolis, around wanamaker.

Indianapolis, around wanamaker. My biological father was killed

my biological father was killed when I was 2, but my mother

when I was 2, but my mother remarried early on, and my

remarried early on, and my stepfather raised me as his

stepfather raised me as his own. In my freshman year, I met

own. In my freshman year, I met my son's father, and we got

my son's father, and we got together and stayed together

together and stayed together for several years. Money was

for several years. Money was just so tight that when we

just so tight that when we broke up, I was kind of on my

broke up, I was kind of on my own. Josh maxwell, he was a

own. Josh maxwell, he was a friend of my brother's, and my

friend of my brother's, and my brother's friends, and during a

brother's friends, and during a summer that I was going to

summer that I was going to driver's ed, I was at a party

driver's ed, I was at a party where we all sat around and was

where we all sat around and was watching basketball. That's the

watching basketball. That's the first time I'd ever been

first time I'd ever been introduced to him, and I was 15

introduced to him, and I was 15 at that time. Fast-forward five

at that time. Fast-forward five years, I reconnected with josh

years, I reconnected with josh maxwell after he had been

maxwell after he had been released from prison. He's

released from prison. He's looking for my brother, my

looking for my brother, my stepsister, and people that he

stepsister, and people that he hung out with. Somehow, he ran

hung out with. Somehow, he ran across my telephone number. I

across my telephone number. I was just like, "oh, wow, " you

was just like, "oh, wow, " you know, blast-from-the-past type

know, blast-from-the-past type thing. I believe our romance

thing. I believe our romance was an absolute whirlwind. He

was an absolute whirlwind. He immediately moved in, where I

immediately moved in, where I was living at the time. Like,

was living at the time. Like, from almost -- from probably

from almost -- from probably two weeks in, we just had a

two weeks in, we just had a very strong connection from the

very strong connection from the very beginning. It happened so

very beginning. It happened so quickly that I think that's

quickly that I think that's also part of the reason why I

also part of the reason why I never seen red flags. I

never seen red flags. I originally met robby bott in

originally met robby bott in the bar that I was working at,

the bar that I was working at, and he had worked for federal

and he had worked for federal express and had been talking

express and had been talking about openings in his job, how

about openings in his job, how well they paid or whatever, and

well they paid or whatever, and so I had got a business card

so I had got a business card from him. I thought this would

from him. I thought this would be a great fit for josh. They

be a great fit for josh. They started to set up meetings

started to set up meetings where he could meet him in

where he could meet him in person and show him around. He

person and show him around. He had came to our house. I had

had came to our house. I had been to his house. I never

been to his house. I never really realized that there was

really realized that there was maybe an underlining tone there,

maybe an underlining tone there, maybe that he expected more out

maybe that he expected more out of me and josh. I went to my

of me and josh. I went to my sister's house to spend the

sister's house to spend the night with her, her children,

night with her, her children, and my son. We were gonna all

and my son. We were gonna all get up and go somewhere the

get up and go somewhere the next day, and apparently, robby

next day, and apparently, robby and josh got into a pretty bad

and josh got into a pretty bad argument in the basement of the

argument in the basement of the house that we were renting at

house that we were renting at the time. He shot and killed

the time. He shot and killed him. To my knowledge, joshua

him. To my knowledge, joshua put robby's body in the trunk

put robby's body in the trunk of a car and lit the car on

of a car and lit the car on fire. I absolutely was forced

fire. I absolutely was forced into leaving indiana. I would

into leaving indiana. I would have never left my child behind,

have never left my child behind, period, consequences be (bleep)

period, consequences be (bleep) I would have stayed. Josh was

I would have stayed. Josh was not going to allow me to stay

not going to allow me to stay because he felt like I knew too

because he felt like I knew too much and that whatever I said

much and that whatever I said would lead the cops directly to

would lead the cops directly to where he would go. I was

where he would go. I was handcuffed to every bed, every

handcuffed to every bed, every bedpost. He took the handset

bedpost. He took the handset off of every telephone in every

off of every telephone in every hotel room. I never went

hotel room. I never went anywhere by myself. I was

anywhere by myself. I was absolutely in fear of my life.

Absolutely in fear of my life. One time I was able to write a

one time I was able to write a note to the hotel clerk. I

note to the hotel clerk. I would try to sneak it in, in

would try to sneak it in, in between the stacks of bills

between the stacks of bills that I was paying with. And I

that I was paying with. And I don't know if they just thought

don't know if they just thought it was a joke or they just

it was a joke or they just never looked into it, but

never looked into it, but nobody ever contacted or

nobody ever contacted or reached out to any number that

reached out to any number that I left. We arrive at san

I left. We arrive at san antonio, and the car that we

antonio, and the car that we were driving has got mechanical

were driving has got mechanical problems. We go into a shoney's

problems. We go into a shoney's restaurant, and not knowing at

restaurant, and not knowing at this time, I guess josh had

this time, I guess josh had also contacted rudy lopes. To

also contacted rudy lopes. To my knowledge, a sexual ad was

my knowledge, a sexual ad was placed with josh and an

placed with josh and an ex-boyfriend of his by the name

ex-boyfriend of his by the name of trina, and it just happened

of trina, and it just happened to be something that was a

to be something that was a longstanding or a long-running

longstanding or a long-running thing and you have to cancel

thing and you have to cancel it. I don't know if it was a

it. I don't know if it was a newspaper thing. I don't even

newspaper thing. I don't even know anything about it.

Know anything about it. Apparently, rudy had left a

apparently, rudy had left a message in his inbox, and he

message in his inbox, and he had gotten ahold of him. He

had gotten ahold of him. He comes into the restaurant and

comes into the restaurant and sits down and tells josh that a

sits down and tells josh that a cousin of his drives a tow

cousin of his drives a tow truck and he could get our car

truck and he could get our car towed to a mechanic, and he

towed to a mechanic, and he would give us a ride back to

would give us a ride back to the hotel. At that time, I

the hotel. At that time, I thought rudy lopes was an

thought rudy lopes was an absolute stranger and just

absolute stranger and just being nice, helping us with the

being nice, helping us with the car. Later on is when I find

car. Later on is when I find out that this was all a setup.

Out that this was all a setup. This was something that josh

this was something that josh had planned. When we go to pick

had planned. When we go to pick up the car later on that night,

up the car later on that night, there was a bunch of trash in

there was a bunch of trash in the bed of his truck, and it

the bed of his truck, and it was rolling around, making a

was rolling around, making a lot of noise and he was

lot of noise and he was complaining about it. So he

complaining about it. So he wanted to get rid of it, and he

wanted to get rid of it, and he felt like it was scratching the

felt like it was scratching the bed of the truck up. And so, he

bed of the truck up. And so, he asked, could he please pull in

asked, could he please pull in there because he saw a

there because he saw a dumpster. I was inside the

dumpster. I was inside the truck, and I have the radio on.

Truck, and I have the radio on. I heard what I thought, like,

I heard what I thought, like, was a car backfiring. Josh

was a car backfiring. Josh explains, then, that they got

explains, then, that they got into a physical altercation.

Into a physical altercation. There was a discrepancy with

there was a discrepancy with the amount of money that was

the amount of money that was paid to have the car fixed and

paid to have the car fixed and a gun was pulled and ultimately,

a gun was pulled and ultimately, mr. Lopes was shot. I asked

mr. Lopes was shot. I asked josh then, "what now? We have

josh then, "what now? We have to go back and see what's

to go back and see what's happened." and he's, like, not

happened." and he's, like, not going to go for that. He gets

going to go for that. He gets on the highway immediately and

on the highway immediately and just starts driving. We arrived

just starts driving. We arrived in california middle of the day

in california middle of the day and was looking for a hotel to

and was looking for a hotel to stay in. We pull into a gas

stay in. We pull into a gas station and go in to get gas

station and go in to get gas and ask for directions, and we

and ask for directions, and we no sooner get pulled out and I

no sooner get pulled out and I notice that there is a cop

notice that there is a cop behind us. The police officer

behind us. The police officer looks like, to me, that he is

looks like, to me, that he is running the plates of this

running the plates of this truck. And I told josh. He just

truck. And I told josh. He just tells me to put my seatbelt on.

Tells me to put my seatbelt on. And that, of course, was his

and that, of course, was his way of saying that he was not

way of saying that he was not going to pull over willingly.

Going to pull over willingly. He shoots right behind my head.

He shoots right behind my head. And then he shoots another shot

and then he shoots another shot out the side window that's

out the side window that's rolled down. The rest of the

rolled down. The rest of the shots that were fired were by

shots that were fired were by the san francisco police

the san francisco police department. A motorcycle cop

department. A motorcycle cop pulled right up on the side of

pulled right up on the side of the car and shot into the cab

the car and shot into the cab window, and it knocked the cab

window, and it knocked the cab window out and went into my

window out and went into my neck. Josh is now going down

neck. Josh is now going down one-way streets. He's hit two

one-way streets. He's hit two cars. I mean, it's become mass

cars. I mean, it's become mass chaos and confusion. And the

chaos and confusion. And the whole time, I have a bullet in

whole time, I have a bullet in my neck. I start to freak out.

My neck. I start to freak out. I'm bleeding a lot, losing a

I'm bleeding a lot, losing a lot of blood, and so I take a

lot of blood, and so I take a towel and I wrap around my neck

towel and I wrap around my neck and I tell them to let my mom

and I tell them to let my mom and my son know that I love

and my son know that I love them.

Them.

>> my name is jim kopp. I was lead prosecutor in the capital

lead prosecutor in the capital murder prosecutions of joshua

murder prosecutions of joshua maxwell and tessie mcfarland.

Maxwell and tessie mcfarland. When this case occurred, I was

when this case occurred, I was chief of the intake division of

chief of the intake division of the bexar county district

the bexar county district attorney's office. We were

attorney's office. We were aware of the murder of rudy

aware of the murder of rudy lopes, but at that point in

lopes, but at that point in time, we did not know who had

time, we did not know who had committed the offense. The

committed the offense. The district attorney got a call

district attorney got a call from san francisco saying that

from san francisco saying that they had apprehended two people

they had apprehended two people that were involved in it. On

that were involved in it. On October 17th, in san francisco,

October 17th, in san francisco, joshua maxwell and tessie

joshua maxwell and tessie mcfarland were in rudy

mcfarland were in rudy lopes'stolen pickup truck. They

lopes'stolen pickup truck. They had run a red light. So a san

had run a red light. So a san francisco police officer pulled

francisco police officer pulled them over. When he approached,

them over. When he approached, they took off in the vehicle.

They took off in the vehicle. He ran back to his car and gave

he ran back to his car and gave chase. There was a gunfight

chase. There was a gunfight through the streets of san

through the streets of san francisco about 5:00 in the

francisco about 5:00 in the afternoon. Ultimately, they

afternoon. Ultimately, they were able to stop them by a

were able to stop them by a police officer knowing that

police officer knowing that their direction of travel

their direction of travel pulled crosswise into traffic,

pulled crosswise into traffic, so nobody could go forward. So

so nobody could go forward. So they were able to stop the

they were able to stop the truck and get them out. During

truck and get them out. During the pursuit and gunfight in san

the pursuit and gunfight in san francisco, the only person

francisco, the only person injured was tessie mcfarland.

Injured was tessie mcfarland. She was hit by a bullet. The

she was hit by a bullet. The san francisco police officers

san francisco police officers had no idea the car was stolen.

Had no idea the car was stolen. They were simply pulling it

they were simply pulling it over for a red light. It was

over for a red light. It was not known that joshua maxwell

not known that joshua maxwell and tessie mcfarland were

and tessie mcfarland were involved in an incident in

involved in an incident in indianapolis until after they

indianapolis until after they were apprehended in san

were apprehended in san francisco.

Francisco. >> josh, what kind of vehicle

>> josh, what kind of vehicle were you in?

Were you in? >> uh, a gold chevy truck.

>> uh, a gold chevy truck. >> whose truck is that, josh?

>> whose truck is that, josh? >> rudy, rudolph lopes.

>> rudy, rudolph lopes. >> josh, how is it that we came

>> josh, how is it that we came to be here today?

To be here today? >> uh, they pulled me over.

>> uh, they pulled me over. >> the cops tried to pull you

>> the cops tried to pull you over?

Over? >> yeah. That's when I hit the

>> yeah. That's when I hit the gas.

Gas. >> how come? How come you took

>> how come? How come you took off?

Off? >> uh, because I'm wanted back

>> uh, because I'm wanted back home.

Home. >> for what?

>> for what? >> uh, murder.

>> uh, murder. >> josh pretty much wanted to

>> josh pretty much wanted to take full responsibility for

take full responsibility for the crime, and he did what

the crime, and he did what little he could to try to

little he could to try to shield tessie from the

shield tessie from the consequences of what they'd

consequences of what they'd done. In terms of robby bott,

done. In terms of robby bott, we know both from the

we know both from the statements joshua made, as well

statements joshua made, as well as the evidence recovered in

as the evidence recovered in indianapolis, that joshua and

indianapolis, that joshua and tessie were in robby bott's

tessie were in robby bott's house. They watched a movie, we

house. They watched a movie, we believe. At that point in time,

believe. At that point in time, we believe they abducted robby

we believe they abducted robby bott. What they did is they

bott. What they did is they took him to the basement of the

took him to the basement of the house that they were fixing up

house that they were fixing up in indianapolis, put him in a

in indianapolis, put him in a wardrobe in the basement, and

wardrobe in the basement, and locked it. They went back to

locked it. They went back to his house, took all kinds of

his house, took all kinds of items -- vacuum cleaners, all

items -- vacuum cleaners, all kinds of things. Then they went

kinds of things. Then they went back to the house. At that

back to the house. At that point in time, they let him out

point in time, they let him out of the closet, took him

of the closet, took him upstairs, and they had him take

upstairs, and they had him take them shopping. They went to a

them shopping. They went to a store in indianapolis and

store in indianapolis and charged up about $2,000 on his

charged up about $2,000 on his credit card. And we have a

credit card. And we have a video of this. Then they take

video of this. Then they take him back to the house in

him back to the house in indianapolis, then lock him

indianapolis, then lock him back up in the wardrobe. They

back up in the wardrobe. They take a pillow, shoot robby bott

take a pillow, shoot robby bott several times, take the body,

several times, take the body, put it in the trunk of his car,

put it in the trunk of his car, drive it to a deserted area

drive it to a deserted area outside of indianapolis, and

outside of indianapolis, and set the car on fire. Well, both

set the car on fire. Well, both people, robby bott and rudy

people, robby bott and rudy lopes, made contact with joshua

lopes, made contact with joshua and tessie through some type of

and tessie through some type of advertisement for sexual

advertisement for sexual services. We don't really know

services. We don't really know what hold they had over him,

what hold they had over him, but I figured there was

but I figured there was probably some type of

probably some type of blackmail. I don't recall him

blackmail. I don't recall him ever giving a motive for the

ever giving a motive for the killing. There was other

killing. There was other videotapes which we had

videotapes which we had recovered in which he indicated

recovered in which he indicated a very strong dislike for the

a very strong dislike for the police. But other than that, we

police. But other than that, we didn't really have any

didn't really have any particular motive, other than

particular motive, other than probably just pure greed. After

probably just pure greed. After hearing the interview of joshua

hearing the interview of joshua maxwell, the detectives did

maxwell, the detectives did want to talk to tessie. Tessie

want to talk to tessie. Tessie he was in the hospital

he was in the hospital undergoing medical treatment.

Undergoing medical treatment. She never indicated that she

she never indicated that she was involved in what had

was involved in what had occurred during her statements

occurred during her statements to the police.

To the police. >> I mean, you have to

>> I mean, you have to understand the -- the situation

understand the -- the situation I'm in. If I don't do

I'm in. If I don't do everything he says --

everything he says -- >> we understand that.

>> we understand that. >> one phone call, and my

>> one phone call, and my family could be dead. That is

family could be dead. That is the only reason I never went to

the only reason I never went to the police before this. Because

the police before this. Because I was scared. All the facts and

I was scared. All the facts and circumstances surrounding this

circumstances surrounding this case led us to believe that

case led us to believe that tessie was fully involved in

tessie was fully involved in everything that occurred. We

everything that occurred. We don't believe she pulled the

don't believe she pulled the trigger. There were certainly

trigger. There were certainly no evidence of that. But there

no evidence of that. But there was also no evidence that she

was also no evidence that she wasn't involved in every aspect

wasn't involved in every aspect of what went down. Before I

of what went down. Before I went to san francisco, all we

went to san francisco, all we really knew is that they were

really knew is that they were apprehended in rudy lopes'car.

Apprehended in rudy lopes'car. We didn't have a whole bunch

we didn't have a whole bunch more evidence at that point in

more evidence at that point in time. But once we heard from

time. But once we heard from the san francisco detectives

the san francisco detectives that joshua had confessed to

that joshua had confessed to what had occurred in san

what had occurred in san antonio, at that point in time,

antonio, at that point in time, we had a pretty strong case.

We had a pretty strong case. The district attorney of bexar

the district attorney of bexar county called me into her

county called me into her office and told me to fly up to

office and told me to fly up to san francisco because she

san francisco because she wanted me to make every effort

wanted me to make every effort to see that we could get him

to see that we could get him back to texas to stand trial.

Back to texas to stand trial. One of the main reasons was

one of the main reasons was that they had killed a texas

that they had killed a texas police officer. And of course,

police officer. And of course, it was a horrendous offense

it was a horrendous offense that we certainly wanted them

that we certainly wanted them to face justice for. It was my

to face justice for. It was my understanding from indiana that

understanding from indiana that they would not be able to put

they would not be able to put on in their trial what had

on in their trial what had occurred in texas, whereas in

occurred in texas, whereas in texas, in our punishment phase

texas, in our punishment phase of the capital murder trial, we

of the capital murder trial, we could put on what occurred in

could put on what occurred in indiana. The jury would know it

indiana. The jury would know it was not only one murder. It was

was not only one murder. It was two cold-blooded murders

two cold-blooded murders committed for profit.

Committed for profit.

>> when I heard about the shoot-out in san francisco with

shoot-out in san francisco with josh maxwell and tessie

josh maxwell and tessie mcfarland and that they had

mcfarland and that they had been the ones who were accused

been the ones who were accused of killing my tío rudy, I was

of killing my tío rudy, I was extremely thankful whenever

extremely thankful whenever they did catch them.

They did catch them. >> we had numerous items

>> we had numerous items linking them back to the crime

linking them back to the crime here in indiana. There were

here in indiana. There were also witnesses that were

also witnesses that were placing them in san antonio. We

placing them in san antonio. We had video evidence. We had

had video evidence. We had fingerprints. The evidence was

fingerprints. The evidence was definitely overwhelming against

definitely overwhelming against both.

Both. >> joshua and tessie were

>> joshua and tessie were indicted for capital murder,

indicted for capital murder, but we couldn't try them

but we couldn't try them together. Joshua had prior

together. Joshua had prior convictions out of indiana, so

convictions out of indiana, so because of that, we could not

because of that, we could not try tessie with him.

Try tessie with him. >> josh stood trial in February

>> josh stood trial in February of 2002. We attended that trial

of 2002. We attended that trial and presented evidence from the

and presented evidence from the indiana case. Josh had already

indiana case. Josh had already confessed to being the trigger

confessed to being the trigger man and being the mastermind

man and being the mastermind behind this entire crime spree.

Behind this entire crime spree. >> I followed that trial like

>> I followed that trial like nobody's business. I wish I was

nobody's business. I wish I was a little bit older, so I could

a little bit older, so I could have been a little bit more

have been a little bit more involved, but I guess it's kind

involved, but I guess it's kind of a good thing. I've heard it

of a good thing. I've heard it was pretty graphic with all the

was pretty graphic with all the pictures in there.

Pictures in there. >> when joshua and tessie were

>> when joshua and tessie were apprehended in san francisco,

apprehended in san francisco, in the truck were some

in the truck were some videotapes and a video camera

videotapes and a video camera that they had used to film some

that they had used to film some recordings.

Recordings. >> one of the main things that

>> one of the main things that I participated in in trial was

I participated in in trial was introducing these tapes to show

introducing these tapes to show not only joshua maxwell's

not only joshua maxwell's personality, because in these

personality, because in these tapes, he's smoking dope, he's

tapes, he's smoking dope, he's using drugs, he's walking

using drugs, he's walking around with a gun. He's

around with a gun. He's portraying himself as that

portraying himself as that gangster persona.

Gangster persona. >> joshua maxwell -- he never

>> joshua maxwell -- he never testified, but during his

testified, but during his incarceration in texas, he had,

incarceration in texas, he had, without provocation or any

without provocation or any excuse, attacked a jail guard.

Excuse, attacked a jail guard. And that was further evidence

and that was further evidence we were able to offer at the

we were able to offer at the trial to show that he'd be a

trial to show that he'd be a future danger.

Future danger. >> the defense's position in

>> the defense's position in every death penalty case is to

every death penalty case is to mitigate the actors

mitigate the actors involvement. "show me something

involvement. "show me something in this man's life that he

in this man's life that he didn't have a choice. It was a

didn't have a choice. It was a bad childhood. He was raised

bad childhood. He was raised horribly. He's got mental

horribly. He's got mental deficiencies or mental issues

deficiencies or mental issues that he can't deal with."

that he can't deal with." >> during the trial, it did

>> during the trial, it did come up that joshua, at about

come up that joshua, at about the age of 12 or 13, found out

the age of 12 or 13, found out that he had been adopted and,

that he had been adopted and, of course, didn't take very

of course, didn't take very well to that. And that that was

well to that. And that that was part of the reason why he fell

part of the reason why he fell into the violent crimes.

Into the violent crimes. >> that's what I'm talking

>> that's what I'm talking about right there.

About right there. >> to me, it wasn't very

>> to me, it wasn't very compelling.

Compelling. >> look down the barrel, mother

>> look down the barrel, mother (bleep) my (bleep) ha!

(bleep) my (bleep) ha! >> at the conclusion of that

>> at the conclusion of that trial, joshua maxwell was

trial, joshua maxwell was sentenced to death. He was

sentenced to death. He was incarcerated in huntsville and

incarcerated in huntsville and remained there on death row.

Remained there on death row. >> about a year later, we tried

>> about a year later, we tried tessie. We had all intentions

tessie. We had all intentions of moving forward with the

of moving forward with the death penalty against her.

Death penalty against her. >> we had a pretty strong case.

>> we had a pretty strong case. There was a sex tape that

there was a sex tape that tessie and joshua had filmed,

tessie and joshua had filmed, along with the third person

along with the third person that we don't know who we was,

that we don't know who we was, just laughing and having a

just laughing and having a great time.

Great time. >> her defense was, "I'm a

>> her defense was, "I'm a victim. Joshua forced me.

Victim. Joshua forced me. Joshua kept me. But those tapes

joshua kept me. But those tapes proved that that wasn't so."

proved that that wasn't so." >> okay, now, get up.

>> okay, now, get up. >> alright.

>> alright. >> the tapes, as well as all

>> the tapes, as well as all the other evidence, led us to

the other evidence, led us to believe that tessie was fully

believe that tessie was fully complicit in what had occurred,

complicit in what had occurred, that she wasn't acting under

that she wasn't acting under duress.

Duress. >> I can't say that I've ever

>> I can't say that I've ever been in that type of abusive

been in that type of abusive relationship, and I'm not

relationship, and I'm not trying to talk down anybody

trying to talk down anybody who's like that, but she knew

who's like that, but she knew what she was doing. She chose

what she was doing. She chose not to call the police. Even

not to call the police. Even though she didn't pull the

though she didn't pull the trigger, she's just as guilty.

Trigger, she's just as guilty. >> about two weeks into jury

>> about two weeks into jury selection, tessie came to us

selection, tessie came to us and indicated that she wanted

and indicated that she wanted to plead guilty to capital

to plead guilty to capital murder if we would waive the

murder if we would waive the death penalty. We conferred and

death penalty. We conferred and agreed to do that. The state

agreed to do that. The state waived the death penalty, so

waived the death penalty, so she was assessed a life

she was assessed a life sentence. She'll be eligible

sentence. She'll be eligible for parole in 40 calendar years

for parole in 40 calendar years under texas law. I was

under texas law. I was satisfied with the outcome.

Satisfied with the outcome. >> I don't think that justice

>> I don't think that justice was served because tessie

was served because tessie mcfarland deserves to die. The

mcfarland deserves to die. The things that she and joshua

things that she and joshua maxwell did to robby bott in

maxwell did to robby bott in indianapolis are just horrific.

Indianapolis are just horrific. >> the outcome, it's provided

>> the outcome, it's provided some closure with my family,

some closure with my family, but I don't think there'll ever

but I don't think there'll ever be any full closure because our

be any full closure because our question would still be "why? "

question would still be "why? " why would they do that to

why would they do that to anybody?

Anybody? >> they would do these things

>> they would do these things to two different people,

to two different people, essentially torture them both

essentially torture them both by holding them, shooting them,

by holding them, shooting them, everything else they had done

everything else they had done to them. And it was pure evil.

To them. And it was pure evil. >> looking back on that

>> looking back on that situation, I would have handled

situation, I would have handled things in a completely

things in a completely different manner. I'm almost 40

different manner. I'm almost 40 years old now. I'm a completely

years old now. I'm a completely different person. I absolutely

different person. I absolutely feel horrible for everybody

feel horrible for everybody involved. If I could take

involved. If I could take either one of their places, I

either one of their places, I would. I absolutely would.

Would. I absolutely would. >> no one ever expects it to

>> no one ever expects it to happen to them. Hold your loved

happen to them. Hold your loved ones very close. Tell them how

ones very close. Tell them how much you love them every single

much you love them every single day.

Day.