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Dead. Authorities say this is
near where becki's body was
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near where becki's body was
found. They say she was near
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found. They say she was near
her car, but her injuries were
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her car, but her injuries were
not consistent with that of a
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not consistent with that of a
car crash.
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Car crash.
>> the vehicle was still
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>> the vehicle was still
running. The young lady was
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running. The young lady was
laying in the roadway with a
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laying in the roadway with a
gunshot wound to her head.
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Gunshot wound to her head.
>> when justin drank, he became
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>> when justin drank, he became
a totally different person. He
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a totally different person. He
became angry.
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Became angry.
>> every day, I've gone over
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>> every day, I've gone over
what happened, if I could do
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what happened, if I could do
anything different.
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Anything different.
>> a lot of cases turn on just
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>> a lot of cases turn on just
luck. And that's what happened
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luck. And that's what happened
in this case.
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In this case.
>> adrenaline was coursing
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>> adrenaline was coursing
through my veins. How far
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through my veins. How far
behind was I from the killer?
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Behind was I from the killer?
>> five unique perspectives.
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>> five unique perspectives.
Five points of view. One
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five points of view. One
murder.
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Murder.
>> I'm becki dillard's husband.
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>> I'm becki dillard's husband.
>> I am becki's mother.
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>> I am becki's mother.
>> I was the first responding
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>> I was the first responding
trooper to the murder.
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Trooper to the murder.
>> I'm a criminal investigator.
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>> I'm a criminal investigator.
>> and I was the prosecuting
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>> and I was the prosecuting
attorney.
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Attorney.
>> my name's justin dillard.
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>> my name's justin dillard.
I'm becki dillard's husband.
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I'm becki dillard's husband.
Becki was like a little
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becki was like a little
bumblebee. She was adhd,
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bumblebee. She was adhd,
running around, touching
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running around, touching
everybody, making everybody's
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everybody, making everybody's
life happy. Like a little fairy,
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life happy. Like a little fairy,
just as sweet as she could be.
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Just as sweet as she could be.
I loved that she could walk in
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I loved that she could walk in
a room, and it could be a bad
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a room, and it could be a bad
day in that room, and she'd
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day in that room, and she'd
just turn it all around. "I'm
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just turn it all around. "I'm
here. Here I am. Smile now.
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Here. Here I am. Smile now.
It's okay." we were doing
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it's okay." we were doing
pretty good at that
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pretty good at that
happily-ever-after fairy tale,
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happily-ever-after fairy tale,
kind of what we wanted. Here we
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kind of what we wanted. Here we
are married, down the road, and
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are married, down the road, and
kids. This is my best friend,
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kids. This is my best friend,
my wife, mother of my kids. We
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my wife, mother of my kids. We
were supposed to be together,
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were supposed to be together,
arguing, bickering over her
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arguing, bickering over her
cooking 20 years from now. My
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cooking 20 years from now. My
life literally changed -- all
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life literally changed -- all
-- it changed completely in one
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-- it changed completely in one
day. I have never felt the pain
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day. I have never felt the pain
that I felt. I wouldn't wish
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that I felt. I wouldn't wish
this on anybody. It was Friday
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this on anybody. It was Friday
the 13th. I remember thinking,
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the 13th. I remember thinking,
"oh, lord, here we go. What's
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"oh, lord, here we go. What's
gonna happen today? " becki got
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gonna happen today? " becki got
home and changed and was
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home and changed and was
getting ready to go to her
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getting ready to go to her
sister's party. It was sarah's
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sister's party. It was sarah's
21st birthday party. She was
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21st birthday party. She was
already late. She had to get
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already late. She had to get
gas, she had to go back to
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gas, she had to go back to
walmart. She was gonna pick
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walmart. She was gonna pick
something up for sarah. I
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something up for sarah. I
really didn't want to go. I
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really didn't want to go. I
changed my mind two or three
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changed my mind two or three
times and finally, I decided,
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times and finally, I decided,
"you know what? I'll just stay
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"you know what? I'll just stay
home." well, at 9:30 that night,
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home." well, at 9:30 that night,
her brother had called and said,
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her brother had called and said,
"where's becki? " she should be
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"where's becki? " she should be
there pretty soon. She left at
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there pretty soon. She left at
9:00. 10:00 came around, and
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9:00. 10:00 came around, and
she still wasn't there. Talked
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she still wasn't there. Talked
to sarah that time, and sarah
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to sarah that time, and sarah
said, "well, she should be here
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said, "well, she should be here
by now." and I said, "well,
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by now." and I said, "well,
yeah, she should be there." and
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yeah, she should be there." and
she still wasn't. By the third
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she still wasn't. By the third
phone call, I was worried. I
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phone call, I was worried. I
thought, "okay, something ain't
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thought, "okay, something ain't
right." at that point, I knew
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right." at that point, I knew
it was not good. So then, okay,
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it was not good. So then, okay,
we need to go find out where
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we need to go find out where
she's at. So I called my friend
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she's at. So I called my friend
lindsey that was also her
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lindsey that was also her
friend, as well. I said,
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friend, as well. I said,
"lindsey, come up here and get
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"lindsey, come up here and get
me." so lindsey says, "I'm on
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me." so lindsey says, "I'm on
my way." and she comes and gets
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my way." and she comes and gets
me, and we try to track her
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me, and we try to track her
down, and we went where she was
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down, and we went where she was
supposed to be going. We
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supposed to be going. We
actually went to the gas
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actually went to the gas
station she was going to. We
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station she was going to. We
went the way she was going, and
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went the way she was going, and
she wasn't on the side of road.
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She wasn't on the side of road.
Nobody knows where she's at.
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Nobody knows where she's at.
And that's not like her. We
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and that's not like her. We
always knew where everybody
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always knew where everybody
else was. We get to the party
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else was. We get to the party
and there's some police that
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and there's some police that
want to talk to me. They tell
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want to talk to me. They tell
me that I need to come with
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me that I need to come with
them. I didn't think it had
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them. I didn't think it had
anything to do with becki. My
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anything to do with becki. My
world was perfect. And she's
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world was perfect. And she's
not supposed to be hurt. She's
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not supposed to be hurt. She's
not supposed to be harmed. That
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not supposed to be harmed. That
never crossed my mind. When
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never crossed my mind. When
becki and I met, we hit it off
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becki and I met, we hit it off
right off, right off the bat.
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Right off, right off the bat.
We became really close, really
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we became really close, really
good friends. Becki was the new
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good friends. Becki was the new
girl. And, you know, when
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girl. And, you know, when
somebody is new, everybody
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somebody is new, everybody
wants to find out about them,
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wants to find out about them,
what they're doing, who they
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what they're doing, who they
are, what's going on. And I had
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are, what's going on. And I had
a small, little crush on her.
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A small, little crush on her.
Our interests were very
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our interests were very
similar. She was into fashion
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similar. She was into fashion
and clothes and hair and
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and clothes and hair and
appearance. And I know that
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appearance. And I know that
sounds vain, but back then, we
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sounds vain, but back then, we
were still in high school. We'd
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were still in high school. We'd
call each other and be like,
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call each other and be like,
"well, what are you gonna wear?
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"well, what are you gonna wear?
I'm gonna wear this." we were
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I'm gonna wear this." we were
always inseparable, but we were,
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always inseparable, but we were,
for real, together. We
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for real, together. We
graduated high school in may.
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Graduated high school in may.
And by mid-June, she moved in
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and by mid-June, she moved in
with me and my mom. I got to
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with me and my mom. I got to
the police station. I sat there,
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the police station. I sat there,
and it seemed like I sat there
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and it seemed like I sat there
forever and ever and ever
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forever and ever and ever
before anybody even came in.
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Before anybody even came in.
And but then this man came in.
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And but then this man came in.
They wouldn't tell me anything.
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They wouldn't tell me anything.
They wanted me to answer all
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they wanted me to answer all
these questions, but they would
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these questions, but they would
not answer any of mine. And
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not answer any of mine. And
finally, this older gentleman
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finally, this older gentleman
said, "well, we found becki
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said, "well, we found becki
without a pulse." I'll never
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without a pulse." I'll never
forget the pain, the sickness.
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Forget the pain, the sickness.
That is not something you can
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that is not something you can
describe, when someone tells
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describe, when someone tells
you your whole world is not
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you your whole world is not
alive, is gone, is dead, is
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alive, is gone, is dead, is
over -- that blunt. You don't
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over -- that blunt. You don't
just do that to somebody. They
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just do that to somebody. They
questioned me for, it seemed
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questioned me for, it seemed
like hours. They asked me
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like hours. They asked me
questions like, "do you have
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questions like, "do you have
weapons? Do you have guns? Is
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weapons? Do you have guns? Is
there anybody that would harm
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there anybody that would harm
her? Would you harm her? " I
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her? Would you harm her? " I
watch enough tv to know that
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watch enough tv to know that
they come after the husband or
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they come after the husband or
the spouse in these situations.
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The spouse in these situations.
I thought, "well, surely
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I thought, "well, surely
they're gonna come after me."
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they're gonna come after me."
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>> I'm clinton howell. I was
the first responding trooper to
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the first responding trooper to
the murder of becki dillard. I
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the murder of becki dillard. I
was north of west plains on 63
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was north of west plains on 63
highway working some traffic
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highway working some traffic
that night. And troop called me
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that night. And troop called me
and informed me of a motor
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and informed me of a motor
vehicle crash with injuries on
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vehicle crash with injuries on
ff highway, in the southern
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ff highway, in the southern
part of howell county. While I
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part of howell county. While I
was en route, then I was
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was en route, then I was
advised that there may be a
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advised that there may be a
fatality involved. I come
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fatality involved. I come
around the corner, and there
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around the corner, and there
was a vehicle sitting on the
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was a vehicle sitting on the
left-hand side of the road in
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left-hand side of the road in
the grass, still running. And I
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the grass, still running. And I
could see a young lady laying
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could see a young lady laying
near the center line, all
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near the center line, all
crumpled up, and there was a
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crumpled up, and there was a
few people standing around. I
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few people standing around. I
jumped out of my car real quick
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jumped out of my car real quick
and went right to her right off
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and went right to her right off
the bat. I noticed blood on her
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the bat. I noticed blood on her
scalp. I assessed her real
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scalp. I assessed her real
quick, and she was already
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quick, and she was already
gone. There was nothing I could
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gone. There was nothing I could
do for her at that point. This
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do for her at that point. This
young lady was still very warm.
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Young lady was still very warm.
It wasn't like she'd been
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it wasn't like she'd been
laying there very long. It was
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laying there very long. It was
an odd scenario because the
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an odd scenario because the
vehicle didn't have any damage
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vehicle didn't have any damage
on it when I rolled up. And it
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on it when I rolled up. And it
was upright, sitting off in the
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was upright, sitting off in the
grass like it had been pulled
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grass like it had been pulled
off there. So my gut instinct
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off there. So my gut instinct
was already going wild. Started
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was already going wild. Started
looking around, located a
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looking around, located a
couple shell casings in the
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couple shell casings in the
road near her body. They shined
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road near her body. They shined
in my patrol car headlights.
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In my patrol car headlights.
Adrenaline was coursing through
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adrenaline was coursing through
my veins. Is there somebody out
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my veins. Is there somebody out
just 20 feet off the road in
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just 20 feet off the road in
the brush? Because there's no
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the brush? Because there's no
lighting out there, and the
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lighting out there, and the
only way the scene's lit up is
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only way the scene's lit up is
with my patrol car headlights.
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With my patrol car headlights.
I knew that I needed some help
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I knew that I needed some help
real quick. I immediately keyed
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real quick. I immediately keyed
up and told troop to get ddcc
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up and told troop to get ddcc
investigators en route. As I'm
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investigators en route. As I'm
waiting for my investigators
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waiting for my investigators
and backup to show up, I'm
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and backup to show up, I'm
telling everybody to stay put
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telling everybody to stay put
and not move because they're
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and not move because they're
actively part of a crime scene.
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Actively part of a crime scene.
One of them could be the
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one of them could be the
shooter. So I visited with each
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shooter. So I visited with each
one of them individually to try
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one of them individually to try
to assess them and their story,
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to assess them and their story,
why they were there. There was
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why they were there. There was
no flags from anybody I talked
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no flags from anybody I talked
to. I moved over to her vehicle,
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to. I moved over to her vehicle,
making sure not to touch it,
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making sure not to touch it,
looked in it through the glass.
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Looked in it through the glass.
I could shine my flashlight in
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I could shine my flashlight in
there. I could see that the
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there. I could see that the
heater was on and it was
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heater was on and it was
sitting there idling. Her purse
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sitting there idling. Her purse
was still there in the vehicle.
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Was still there in the vehicle.
It didn't appear to be
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it didn't appear to be
disturbed. It was, like, in the
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disturbed. It was, like, in the
same spot where she had set it,
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same spot where she had set it,
over in the passenger side.
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Over in the passenger side.
When people break in and steal
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when people break in and steal
vehicles, of course, they
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vehicles, of course, they
usually dump them or scatter
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usually dump them or scatter
stuff. Robbery was not a motive
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stuff. Robbery was not a motive
with this victim. When entry
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with this victim. When entry
was made into the vehicle, it
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was made into the vehicle, it
was made by warren wiedemann,
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was made by warren wiedemann,
our ddcc investigator. He
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our ddcc investigator. He
looked in her purse, of course,
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looked in her purse, of course,
so there was a driver's license
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so there was a driver's license
and it was easy to make
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and it was easy to make
positive identification right
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positive identification right
there. Her name was becki
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there. Her name was becki
dillard, from the west plains
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dillard, from the west plains
area. The early assumption is
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area. The early assumption is
that she was traveling to an
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that she was traveling to an
undisclosed location -- we
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undisclosed location -- we
didn't know -- and for some
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didn't know -- and for some
reason, she got flagged down,
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reason, she got flagged down,
and she exited her vehicle to
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and she exited her vehicle to
get out and talk to them, and
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get out and talk to them, and
they shot her right there in
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they shot her right there in
the middle of the road. She
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the middle of the road. She
would not stop in the middle of
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would not stop in the middle of
the night for a stranger in the
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the night for a stranger in the
middle of nowhere on this old
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middle of nowhere on this old
backroad. It was blatantly
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backroad. It was blatantly
obvious it was somebody that
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obvious it was somebody that
she knew and that she felt
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she knew and that she felt
comfortable with. Everything
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comfortable with. Everything
was intact. None of her
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was intact. None of her
clothing was ripped. There was
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clothing was ripped. There was
no signs of no struggle. So all
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no signs of no struggle. So all
the obvious indicators are it
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the obvious indicators are it
was a hit. And it was our job
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was a hit. And it was our job
to find out why and get that
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to find out why and get that
person. If there's a fatality
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person. If there's a fatality
involved, then I have to notify
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involved, then I have to notify
next of kin and contact family.
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Next of kin and contact family.
And we never do that by the
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and we never do that by the
phone. We always do it in
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phone. We always do it in
person. Throughout our
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person. Throughout our
conversations with some of our
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conversations with some of our
local contacts and people, we
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local contacts and people, we
were able to determine that
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were able to determine that
becki had a husband and his
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becki had a husband and his
name was justin dillard. Of
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name was justin dillard. Of
course, we don't rule out
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course, we don't rule out
anybody at that early stage.
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Anybody at that early stage.
Everybody is a suspect at that
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everybody is a suspect at that
point, and we needed to
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point, and we needed to
interview him. We developed
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interview him. We developed
information that becki's
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information that becki's
husband was at a party on a
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husband was at a party on a
county road west of west
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county road west of west
plains. So me and a deputy
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plains. So me and a deputy
rolled onto that location. We
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rolled onto that location. We
tell him that we have, you know,
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tell him that we have, you know,
some bad news for him. He's
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some bad news for him. He's
distraught. Very, very, very
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distraught. Very, very, very
dramatic. Some initial
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dramatic. Some initial
observations that made some
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observations that made some
flags go off, from just an
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flags go off, from just an
investigation standpoint --
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investigation standpoint --
he's a young male married to a
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he's a young male married to a
beautiful young woman with two
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beautiful young woman with two
beautiful kids, and he's
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beautiful kids, and he's
wearing pink cowboy boots, a
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wearing pink cowboy boots, a
pink shirt, and has makeup on.
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Pink shirt, and has makeup on.
And that may not be a flag in a
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and that may not be a flag in a
metro area, but in rural howell
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metro area, but in rural howell
county, that's a huge flag. We
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county, that's a huge flag. We
had to figure out, was there,
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had to figure out, was there,
you know, extramarital affairs
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you know, extramarital affairs
going on? Was there domestic
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going on? Was there domestic
violence? We placed him in a
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violence? We placed him in a
patrol car, headed towards the
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patrol car, headed towards the
sheriff's office as quickly and
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sheriff's office as quickly and
safely as possible. At that
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safely as possible. At that
point, it was time for me to
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point, it was time for me to
step back out. When I left the
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step back out. When I left the
sheriff's office that night, he
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sheriff's office that night, he
was one of the suspects,
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was one of the suspects,
definitely, in my mind. I just
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definitely, in my mind. I just
couldn't shake it.
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Couldn't shake it.
>> I am debbie talbert, becki's
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>> I am debbie talbert, becki's
mother. Ar
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>> I am debbie talbert, becki's
mother. Around 2:00 that night,
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mother. Around 2:00 that night,
the phone rang. I got up and
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the phone rang. I got up and
answered it. And it was becki's
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answered it. And it was becki's
father, benny. He was crying,
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father, benny. He was crying,
which is unusual for benny, and
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which is unusual for benny, and
he said, "something has
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he said, "something has
happened to becki, and you need
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happened to becki, and you need
to come to the police station
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to come to the police station
right now." we got there to the
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right now." we got there to the
police station. Charlie, who
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police station. Charlie, who
was sarah's husband at the time,
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was sarah's husband at the time,
grabbed me and sat me down, and
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grabbed me and sat me down, and
told me that becki was gone.
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Told me that becki was gone.
Before I even had a chance to
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before I even had a chance to
react at that particular time,
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react at that particular time,
justin comes running in the
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justin comes running in the
room and grabs me by the head
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room and grabs me by the head
and said, "oh, my god, oh, my
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and said, "oh, my god, oh, my
god, becki's dead, " and
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god, becki's dead, " and
started crying. I immediately,
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started crying. I immediately,
instead of crying, got angry
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instead of crying, got angry
because I knew that he had done
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because I knew that he had done
something. I wasn't surprised
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something. I wasn't surprised
when becki told me that she was
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when becki told me that she was
seeing justin. I thought he was
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seeing justin. I thought he was
a little feminine then, but he
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a little feminine then, but he
seemed to be a really nice boy,
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seemed to be a really nice boy,
and they hit it off pretty
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and they hit it off pretty
good. Justin would listen to
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good. Justin would listen to
becki, and he knew exactly what
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becki, and he knew exactly what
to say to her. He was a more
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to say to her. He was a more
softer person, more gentle.
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Softer person, more gentle.
When becki found out she was
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when becki found out she was
pregnant, she had a good
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pregnant, she had a good
support system on both sides.
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Support system on both sides.
Both becki and justin wanted to
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both becki and justin wanted to
go to cosmetology school.
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Go to cosmetology school.
Justin's mom, debra, took care
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justin's mom, debra, took care
of cobey while they went to
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of cobey while they went to
school. And they were getting
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school. And they were getting
along really good living at
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along really good living at
debra's house. When they were
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debra's house. When they were
going to school, justin started
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going to school, justin started
to drink a little bit more. I
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to drink a little bit more. I
don't exactly know why. Maybe
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don't exactly know why. Maybe
he was more scared of actually
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he was more scared of actually
raising cobey and providing for
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raising cobey and providing for
cobey as a father. He was
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cobey as a father. He was
falling down on his duties as a
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falling down on his duties as a
provider for the family. And a
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provider for the family. And a
lot of times, he missed school
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lot of times, he missed school
because he over-drank the night
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because he over-drank the night
before. It was causing a rift
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before. It was causing a rift
in their relationship. She
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in their relationship. She
didn't want to live in that
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didn't want to live in that
house forever. She wanted her
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house forever. She wanted her
own house, just like every
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own house, just like every
person does. Becki was hoping
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person does. Becki was hoping
that once they had saved up
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that once they had saved up
enough money, they could get a
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enough money, they could get a
place of their own and they
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place of their own and they
could actually make a go of
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could actually make a go of
being a happy family. Well,
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being a happy family. Well,
after cobey was about 3 1/2
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after cobey was about 3 1/2
years old, becki became
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years old, becki became
pregnant again. She had asked
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pregnant again. She had asked
justin to stop drinking because
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justin to stop drinking because
she wanted to have another
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she wanted to have another
child. So he did for a while,
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child. So he did for a while,
and then after she became
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and then after she became
pregnant again, he started
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pregnant again, he started
drinking again. When justin
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drinking again. When justin
drank, he became a totally
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drank, he became a totally
different person. He became
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different person. He became
angry at everything and
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angry at everything and
everyone. I begged her to
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everyone. I begged her to
please come and stay with us,
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please come and stay with us,
but she wouldn't do it. Becki
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but she wouldn't do it. Becki
did have some hope that they
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did have some hope that they
would be able to be together
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would be able to be together
and make a happy family. But in
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and make a happy family. But in
my heart, I didn't see that
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my heart, I didn't see that
happening. So she started
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happening. So she started
taking some of her check and
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taking some of her check and
hiding it so that she would
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hiding it so that she would
have some money, eventually, to
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have some money, eventually, to
get an apartment or a down
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get an apartment or a down
payment on a home. She was
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payment on a home. She was
trying to move out of the house
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trying to move out of the house
with justin and get out from
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00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,680
with justin and get out from
underneath the chaos that was
425
00:16:55,682 --> 00:17:00,184
underneath the chaos that was
in the dillard home. Whenever
426
00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:02,720
in the dillard home. Whenever
someone is murdered, you
427
00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:04,255
someone is murdered, you
usually look to the spouse
428
00:17:04,257 --> 00:17:08,593
usually look to the spouse
first. On that particular night,
429
00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,963
first. On that particular night,
justin did show up at sarah's
430
00:17:11,965 --> 00:17:14,932
justin did show up at sarah's
party at a particular time, and
431
00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:19,337
party at a particular time, and
he was yelling and crying out,
432
00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:21,205
he was yelling and crying out,
"where's becki? Where's becki?
433
00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:24,208
"where's becki? Where's becki?
" and they didn't know what was
434
00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:29,447
" and they didn't know what was
going on. He was crying, "oh,
435
00:17:29,449 --> 00:17:34,419
going on. He was crying, "oh,
she's in a ditch somewhere,
436
00:17:34,421 --> 00:17:36,487
she's in a ditch somewhere,
dead." my whole family knew
437
00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:39,590
dead." my whole family knew
that justin was involved in
438
00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,026
that justin was involved in
some way. They just had to
439
00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:44,762
some way. They just had to
prove it. Whoever was in the
440
00:17:44,764 --> 00:17:47,765
prove it. Whoever was in the
truck following becki had
441
00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:51,803
truck following becki had
stopped her on the highway.
442
00:17:51,805 --> 00:17:57,375
Stopped her on the highway.
There was a vehicle that came
443
00:17:57,377 --> 00:18:01,479
there was a vehicle that came
from the opposite direction,
444
00:18:01,481 --> 00:18:02,880
from the opposite direction,
and they saw both vehicles
445
00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:03,414
and they saw both vehicles
stopped there.
446
00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:07,285
Stopped there.
>> there's two cars. A s.U.V.
447
00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:10,088
>> there's two cars. A s.U.V.
And, uh, I think a chevy
448
00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:12,490
and, uh, I think a chevy
pickup. It was parked on the
449
00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:13,091
pickup. It was parked on the
side of the road.
450
00:18:13,093 --> 00:18:23,868
Side of the road.
>> it was a big break in the
451
00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:25,169
>> it was a big break in the
case for the detectives,
452
00:18:25,171 --> 00:18:27,805
case for the detectives,
because had not someone
453
00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:30,141
because had not someone
remembered seeing that truck on
454
00:18:30,143 --> 00:18:31,509
remembered seeing that truck on
the road, they probably never
455
00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:33,511
the road, they probably never
would have been pointed in the
456
00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:34,078
would have been pointed in the
right direction.
457
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,984
Right direction.
>> my name is warren wiedemann
458
00:18:48,594 --> 00:18:50,061
>> my name is warren wiedemann
with the missouri state highway
459
00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,028
with the missouri state highway
patrol. I'm a criminal
460
00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:52,163
patrol. I'm a criminal
investigator, and I assisted in
461
00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:55,933
investigator, and I assisted in
the investigation in the
462
00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:57,335
the investigation in the
homicide of becki dillard. When
463
00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:58,636
homicide of becki dillard. When
I advised justin of his miranda
464
00:18:58,638 --> 00:18:59,871
I advised justin of his miranda
rights, he became extremely
465
00:18:59,873 --> 00:19:01,506
rights, he became extremely
emotional, to the point of
466
00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:03,141
emotional, to the point of
almost being hysterical. It was
467
00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:07,845
almost being hysterical. It was
obvious that he was under the
468
00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:08,613
obvious that he was under the
influence of something. We
469
00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:13,951
influence of something. We
weren't really getting a whole
470
00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:14,752
weren't really getting a whole
lot out of him. He was leaning
471
00:19:14,754 --> 00:19:15,419
lot out of him. He was leaning
forward and just rocking side
472
00:19:15,421 --> 00:19:16,120
forward and just rocking side
to side and crying. He just
473
00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:19,290
to side and crying. He just
didn't seem that concerned to
474
00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:20,158
didn't seem that concerned to
help us. He was more worried
475
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,392
help us. He was more worried
about his own emotions than he
476
00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:23,294
about his own emotions than he
was trying to figure out what
477
00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:24,262
was trying to figure out what
happened to his wife. We didn't
478
00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:27,298
happened to his wife. We didn't
have enough to take him into
479
00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,099
have enough to take him into
custody, but we still felt it
480
00:19:28,101 --> 00:19:28,733
custody, but we still felt it
was very possible that he was
481
00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:29,267
was very possible that he was
involved in this death.
482
00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:31,202
Involved in this death.
Lieutenant gary lambe and I
483
00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:31,969
lieutenant gary lambe and I
began to interview numerous
484
00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:50,121
began to interview numerous
people that had been at the
485
00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:50,922
people that had been at the
party. Dean ellis'name came up
486
00:19:50,924 --> 00:19:51,556
party. Dean ellis'name came up
quite a bit. We found out the
487
00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:59,230
quite a bit. We found out the
dean ellis was actually
488
00:19:59,232 --> 00:19:59,997
dean ellis was actually
justin's father, who had had
489
00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:02,733
justin's father, who had had
nothing to do with justin for
490
00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:03,534
nothing to do with justin for
about 15 years. And it was my
491
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:04,168
about 15 years. And it was my
understanding that dean ellis
492
00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:04,835
understanding that dean ellis
was having some heart problems
493
00:20:04,837 --> 00:20:05,436
was having some heart problems
and had decided he wanted to
494
00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:12,343
and had decided he wanted to
basically reconnect with his
495
00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:13,177
basically reconnect with his
family and get to know his son.
496
00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:13,778
Family and get to know his son.
So dean ellis, just a short
497
00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:17,248
so dean ellis, just a short
time before this, had actually
498
00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:18,082
time before this, had actually
moved back into debra dillard's
499
00:20:18,084 --> 00:20:18,883
moved back into debra dillard's
residence with debra dillard
500
00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:19,717
residence with debra dillard
and her current boyfriend, and
501
00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:20,718
and her current boyfriend, and
becki dillard and her husband,
502
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,389
becki dillard and her husband,
justin. So it was unusual
503
00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:26,190
justin. So it was unusual
having your father living with
504
00:20:26,192 --> 00:20:26,824
having your father living with
your mother and your mother's
505
00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:27,725
your mother and your mother's
boyfriend, all in the same
506
00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:28,526
boyfriend, all in the same
residence. We'd gone back to
507
00:20:28,528 --> 00:20:31,062
residence. We'd gone back to
the residence to photograph
508
00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:37,101
the residence to photograph
vehicles, to check for any
509
00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:37,902
vehicles, to check for any
firearms and other weapons at
510
00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:42,139
firearms and other weapons at
the residence. And then when
511
00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:43,174
the residence. And then when
dean was there, as he came out,
512
00:20:43,176 --> 00:20:44,475
dean was there, as he came out,
you know, I asked if he'd be
513
00:20:44,477 --> 00:20:46,544
you know, I asked if he'd be
willing to talk to me. He was
514
00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:52,683
willing to talk to me. He was
an older man, did not seem very
515
00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:53,451
an older man, did not seem very
healthy, did not get around
516
00:20:53,453 --> 00:20:54,018
healthy, did not get around
real well. It just did not
517
00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:57,588
real well. It just did not
appear that he was involved. He
518
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:58,322
appear that he was involved. He
didn't have the ability to
519
00:20:58,324 --> 00:20:59,690
didn't have the ability to
leave the residence. He was
520
00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:01,025
leave the residence. He was
pretty open with discussing,
521
00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:01,892
pretty open with discussing,
you know, the coming and goings
522
00:21:01,894 --> 00:21:02,793
you know, the coming and goings
at the house, of becki getting
523
00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:06,464
at the house, of becki getting
home from work, of debra
524
00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:07,465
home from work, of debra
dillard going to run errands,
525
00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:08,432
dillard going to run errands,
about what time people got
526
00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:09,600
about what time people got
home. It did kind of stand out
527
00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:10,601
home. It did kind of stand out
to me when he told me that
528
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:11,535
to me when he told me that
billy eastep had been sleeping
529
00:21:11,537 --> 00:21:13,537
billy eastep had been sleeping
all evening through all of
530
00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:14,605
all evening through all of
this. Billy eastep's name had
531
00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,607
this. Billy eastep's name had
come up during the
532
00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,143
come up during the
investigation. That was deborah
533
00:21:19,145 --> 00:21:20,478
investigation. That was deborah
dillard's boyfriend and lived
534
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,679
dillard's boyfriend and lived
with her. I specifically asked
535
00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:25,583
with her. I specifically asked
him, "how do you know that he
536
00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:26,751
him, "how do you know that he
was sleeping? " and that's when
537
00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:27,685
was sleeping? " and that's when
he pointed out that that's what
538
00:21:27,687 --> 00:21:28,519
he pointed out that that's what
debra dillard had told him to
539
00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:29,420
debra dillard had told him to
tell us. Now, it seemed unusual
540
00:21:29,422 --> 00:21:32,356
tell us. Now, it seemed unusual
that debra dillard is providing
541
00:21:32,358 --> 00:21:33,157
that debra dillard is providing
alibis for billy eastep. That
542
00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,325
alibis for billy eastep. That
was definitely a red flag. Our
543
00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,393
was definitely a red flag. Our
initial interview with billy,
544
00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:37,128
initial interview with billy,
basically, we were just trying
545
00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:38,229
basically, we were just trying
to kind of go through the
546
00:21:38,231 --> 00:21:40,998
to kind of go through the
timeline of the previous day.
547
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,501
Timeline of the previous day.
It seemed like he was trying to
548
00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:48,506
it seemed like he was trying to
distance himself from
549
00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:52,777
distance himself from
everything and just say he was
550
00:21:52,779 --> 00:22:00,284
everything and just say he was
asleep and knew nothing. I felt
551
00:22:00,286 --> 00:22:01,118
asleep and knew nothing. I felt
like he was holding information
552
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:01,852
like he was holding information
back. Between debra dillard,
553
00:22:01,854 --> 00:22:05,856
back. Between debra dillard,
justin dillard, and billy
554
00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:07,358
justin dillard, and billy
eastep, we're really narrowing
555
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,660
eastep, we're really narrowing
it down, but we're not sure if
556
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,263
it down, but we're not sure if
it's all of them, one of them.
557
00:22:12,265 --> 00:22:13,798
It's all of them, one of them.
So we're still looking for more
558
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,803
so we're still looking for more
physical evidence. About five
559
00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:24,175
physical evidence. About five
days later, a witness comes
560
00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:28,379
days later, a witness comes
forward. And that was a big
561
00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:30,648
forward. And that was a big
turning point in this
562
00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:31,582
turning point in this
investigation. And that was
563
00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:32,383
investigation. And that was
tyler bean. Tyler bean was
564
00:22:32,385 --> 00:22:33,050
tyler bean. Tyler bean was
driving on highway ff that
565
00:22:33,052 --> 00:22:33,984
driving on highway ff that
night with his girlfriend.
566
00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:36,153
Night with his girlfriend.
There was a vehicle sitting
567
00:22:36,155 --> 00:22:37,788
there was a vehicle sitting
facing northbound with the
568
00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:38,889
facing northbound with the
headlights on. And when he went
569
00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:41,459
headlights on. And when he went
by, tyler described that as
570
00:22:41,461 --> 00:22:45,830
by, tyler described that as
this black ford explorer. And
571
00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:46,897
this black ford explorer. And
he said behind it was a
572
00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:47,498
he said behind it was a
chevrolet pickup.
573
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:52,303
Chevrolet pickup.
>> um, can you describe that
574
00:22:52,305 --> 00:22:52,970
>> um, can you describe that
truck for me again?
575
00:22:52,972 --> 00:22:57,641
Truck for me again?
>> um, I know it was a
576
00:22:57,643 --> 00:22:59,844
>> um, I know it was a
dark-colored chevy pickup. It
577
00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:01,245
dark-colored chevy pickup. It
had a light-colored mismatched
578
00:23:01,247 --> 00:23:02,947
had a light-colored mismatched
body part on the driver's side
579
00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:03,914
body part on the driver's side
of it. Um, it was probably late
580
00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:04,615
of it. Um, it was probably late
'90s, early 2000s model.
581
00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,284
'90s, early 2000s model.
>> okay, uh, when you say
582
00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:08,386
>> okay, uh, when you say
light-colored, what color would
583
00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:09,153
light-colored, what color would
you say the body part was?
584
00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,154
You say the body part was?
>> I'd say more like white.
585
00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,690
>> I'd say more like white.
>> that was an absolutely huge
586
00:23:12,692 --> 00:23:13,691
>> that was an absolutely huge
moment. Not only that somebody
587
00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:16,494
moment. Not only that somebody
had drove by and saw this, but
588
00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:17,928
had drove by and saw this, but
somebody who knew vehicles well
589
00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:19,063
somebody who knew vehicles well
and could not only just say
590
00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:20,398
and could not only just say
that he saw two vehicles -- he
591
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,999
that he saw two vehicles -- he
described them and was able to
592
00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:23,567
described them and was able to
pick those vehicles out. He
593
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,636
pick those vehicles out. He
actually looked at photo
594
00:23:25,638 --> 00:23:27,972
actually looked at photo
lineups of vehicles and picked
595
00:23:27,974 --> 00:23:29,273
lineups of vehicles and picked
out the vehicle that becki
596
00:23:29,275 --> 00:23:30,341
out the vehicle that becki
dillard was driving and billy
597
00:23:30,343 --> 00:23:32,710
dillard was driving and billy
eastep's truck. We absolutely
598
00:23:32,712 --> 00:23:34,278
eastep's truck. We absolutely
wanted to bring back billy for
599
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,980
wanted to bring back billy for
an interview and basically
600
00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:38,249
an interview and basically
either confirm through a
601
00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:39,950
either confirm through a
polygraph that he was the one
602
00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:41,452
polygraph that he was the one
that did this or to help clear
603
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,287
that did this or to help clear
him. The questions would be
604
00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:44,989
him. The questions would be
very direct of whether he
605
00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:48,659
very direct of whether he
caused the death of becki
606
00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:52,830
caused the death of becki
dillard or whether he knew for
607
00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:57,701
dillard or whether he knew for
sure who did cause that death.
608
00:23:57,703 --> 00:24:00,471
Sure who did cause that death.
Billy eastep showed deception
609
00:24:00,473 --> 00:24:01,372
billy eastep showed deception
was indicated during that
610
00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:07,611
was indicated during that
examination. But in the
611
00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:08,712
examination. But in the
post-test interview
612
00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:09,847
post-test interview
interrogation, he did not admit
613
00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:10,848
interrogation, he did not admit
to having shot becki or even
614
00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:12,483
to having shot becki or even
being present when she was
615
00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:14,985
being present when she was
shot. He stuck to his story and
616
00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:16,187
shot. He stuck to his story and
continued to deny it until
617
00:24:16,189 --> 00:24:19,290
continued to deny it until
eventually he wanted to leave,
618
00:24:19,292 --> 00:24:20,724
eventually he wanted to leave,
and so he was allowed to leave.
619
00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:22,359
And so he was allowed to leave.
We didn't have enough at that
620
00:24:22,361 --> 00:24:24,061
we didn't have enough at that
point to charge him. His
621
00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:28,566
point to charge him. His
girlfriend, debra dillard, is
622
00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:29,767
girlfriend, debra dillard, is
requested, and she voluntarily
623
00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:31,702
requested, and she voluntarily
comes to the highway patrol
624
00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:33,170
comes to the highway patrol
headquarters. She is driven
625
00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:36,373
headquarters. She is driven
there by billy eastep in his
626
00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:38,509
there by billy eastep in his
vehicle with the white door.
627
00:24:38,511 --> 00:24:40,144
Vehicle with the white door.
Debra dillard comes in for her
628
00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:45,449
debra dillard comes in for her
polygraph. And she also fails.
629
00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,352
Polygraph. And she also fails.
After somebody fails a
630
00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:50,721
after somebody fails a
polygraph examination, in the
631
00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:53,257
polygraph examination, in the
post-test interrogation, it's a
632
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,226
post-test interrogation, it's a
very direct accusation, because
633
00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:58,762
very direct accusation, because
now you know that they either
634
00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,364
now you know that they either
did it or they know for sure
635
00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:02,032
did it or they know for sure
who did it. And so you go after
636
00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:04,368
who did it. And so you go after
them. During the interrogation,
637
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:06,904
them. During the interrogation,
she admits that she has lied to
638
00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,406
she admits that she has lied to
us and that she knows who
639
00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:11,675
us and that she knows who
killed becki dillard. And she's
640
00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:13,010
killed becki dillard. And she's
saying that billy eastep is the
641
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:15,145
saying that billy eastep is the
one that did. She said he threw
642
00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:17,748
one that did. She said he threw
the gun into a lake and that
643
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,385
the gun into a lake and that
the gun is gone. So, of course,
644
00:25:21,387 --> 00:25:22,586
the gun is gone. So, of course,
with billy eastep also being
645
00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:25,756
with billy eastep also being
present, officers immediately
646
00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:27,558
present, officers immediately
got a hold of him and began to
647
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,126
got a hold of him and began to
talk to him, also. They're
648
00:25:29,128 --> 00:25:31,061
talk to him, also. They're
letting him know that she is
649
00:25:31,063 --> 00:25:45,209
letting him know that she is
telling the truth and she is
650
00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,010
telling the truth and she is
blaming him and that he's the
651
00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:46,610
blaming him and that he's the
one that did it. And at that
652
00:25:46,612 --> 00:25:47,745
one that did it. And at that
point, he admits that he was
653
00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:48,512
point, he admits that he was
there and he has lied to us.
654
00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:51,015
There and he has lied to us.
655
00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,055
>> my name is rizwan ahad, and
I was the prosecuting attorney
656
00:25:58,057 --> 00:25:59,690
I was the prosecuting attorney
in this case. I'd received a
657
00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:00,558
in this case. I'd received a
phone call from law enforcement
658
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,825
phone call from law enforcement
officers that they had asked
659
00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:04,261
officers that they had asked
billy eastep to come to the
660
00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,462
billy eastep to come to the
highway patrol to discuss his
661
00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,498
highway patrol to discuss his
involvement. When I arrived,
662
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,767
involvement. When I arrived,
he'd been speaking to law
663
00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:11,902
he'd been speaking to law
enforcement for probably about
664
00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,838
enforcement for probably about
30, 45 minutes. When billy
665
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,043
30, 45 minutes. When billy
eastep was confronted with
666
00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:20,978
eastep was confronted with
debra dillard's statement, I
667
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:25,215
debra dillard's statement, I
just remember the surprised
668
00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:26,016
just remember the surprised
look on his face, almost like
669
00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:26,617
look on his face, almost like
he knew he'd been caught. At
670
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:29,286
he knew he'd been caught. At
the time that billy eastep was
671
00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:30,054
the time that billy eastep was
arrested, we knew that debra
672
00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:30,754
arrested, we knew that debra
had knowledge of the murder,
673
00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,691
had knowledge of the murder,
but we didn't know her
674
00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:37,161
but we didn't know her
involvement. When he made that
675
00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:38,395
involvement. When he made that
statement that he was present
676
00:26:38,397 --> 00:26:44,335
statement that he was present
at the shooting, in my mind,
677
00:26:44,337 --> 00:26:45,135
at the shooting, in my mind,
debra became a stronger person
678
00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:45,903
debra became a stronger person
of interest. During the
679
00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:52,810
of interest. During the
investigation, we'd determined
680
00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:53,577
investigation, we'd determined
that debra dillard and becki
681
00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:54,111
that debra dillard and becki
dillard had a tumultuous
682
00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:54,878
dillard had a tumultuous
relationship, that there was a
683
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,048
relationship, that there was a
lot of animosity between the
684
00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:58,849
lot of animosity between the
two of them. There were a lot
685
00:26:58,851 --> 00:26:59,850
two of them. There were a lot
of disagreements -- mostly over
686
00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:04,555
of disagreements -- mostly over
justin, but there were other
687
00:27:04,557 --> 00:27:05,356
justin, but there were other
things. We learned that becki
688
00:27:05,358 --> 00:27:11,228
things. We learned that becki
may have been thinking about
689
00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:12,062
may have been thinking about
leaving justin. And debra was
690
00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:17,001
leaving justin. And debra was
very concerned that if becki
691
00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:17,835
very concerned that if becki
were to take the children, that
692
00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:18,435
were to take the children, that
she may not have any more
693
00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:24,508
she may not have any more
contact with them. Billy eastep,
694
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,012
contact with them. Billy eastep,
in his explanation, he stated
695
00:27:28,014 --> 00:27:29,480
in his explanation, he stated
to us that debra dillard and
696
00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:33,384
to us that debra dillard and
becki had an argument, that
697
00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:34,184
becki had an argument, that
becki was wanting to go to the
698
00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:38,656
becki was wanting to go to the
party and that debra wanted her
699
00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:39,423
party and that debra wanted her
to stay so that justin could
700
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:40,391
to stay so that justin could
get ready and go with them. But
701
00:27:40,393 --> 00:27:45,262
get ready and go with them. But
becki had left. According to
702
00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,196
becki had left. According to
billy eastep, he didn't know
703
00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:47,131
billy eastep, he didn't know
exactly what was going on.
704
00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:52,703
Exactly what was going on.
Debra told him to get into the
705
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:53,537
debra told him to get into the
vehicle, and they followed her.
706
00:27:53,539 --> 00:28:03,347
Vehicle, and they followed her.
They caught up to her, at which
707
00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:04,048
they caught up to her, at which
point, billy says, debra
708
00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:04,782
point, billy says, debra
dillard started flashing her
709
00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:05,516
dillard started flashing her
lights. Becki pulled over.
710
00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:10,254
Lights. Becki pulled over.
>> she got out, and she said,
711
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,055
>> she got out, and she said,
"becki, come here. And becki
712
00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:15,459
"becki, come here. And becki
started walking over there.
713
00:28:15,461 --> 00:28:16,260
Started walking over there.
Stopped in front of the truck,
714
00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:19,630
stopped in front of the truck,
and she said, "justin wants you
715
00:28:19,632 --> 00:28:21,098
and she said, "justin wants you
to go back and go get him." and
716
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,900
to go back and go get him." and
when she turned around, deb
717
00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:23,434
when she turned around, deb
went, "pow."
718
00:28:23,436 --> 00:28:33,944
went, "pow."
>> at that point, becki went
719
00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,379
>> at that point, becki went
down. And billy saw debra walk
720
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:39,817
down. And billy saw debra walk
up to becki and shoot her a
721
00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:40,317
up to becki and shoot her a
second time.
722
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,855
Second time.
>> then she got back in the
723
00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:45,723
>> then she got back in the
truck, and I looked at her and
724
00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:50,961
truck, and I looked at her and
I said, "I -- I can't believe
725
00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:51,795
I said, "I -- I can't believe
you did it. I can't believe you
726
00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:52,196
you did it. I can't believe you
really did it."
727
00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:59,903
really did it."
>> it would have been enough to
728
00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:03,173
>> it would have been enough to
charge her, but it wouldn't
729
00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:04,141
charge her, but it wouldn't
have been enough, I believe, at
730
00:29:04,143 --> 00:29:07,711
have been enough, I believe, at
that point, to take her to
731
00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:08,545
that point, to take her to
trial and convict her. We found
732
00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:09,580
trial and convict her. We found
more evidence later on. What
733
00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:22,092
more evidence later on. What
happened was, the longer billy
734
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:22,893
happened was, the longer billy
stayed in jail, the more debra
735
00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:23,460
stayed in jail, the more debra
was becoming a little more
736
00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:24,328
was becoming a little more
guilt-ridden. She started
737
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:25,395
guilt-ridden. She started
discussing with individuals
738
00:29:25,397 --> 00:29:33,570
discussing with individuals
that billy was being railroaded,
739
00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:34,238
that billy was being railroaded,
that he had nothing to do with
740
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,273
that he had nothing to do with
it. We received information
741
00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:36,907
it. We received information
that debra dillard had written
742
00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:37,508
that debra dillard had written
a several-page letter. Law
743
00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:43,413
a several-page letter. Law
enforcement officers then went
744
00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:44,081
enforcement officers then went
to debra dillard's house, where
745
00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:45,015
to debra dillard's house, where
they discovered she was laying
746
00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:48,252
they discovered she was laying
in bed with a gun next to her,
747
00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:49,019
in bed with a gun next to her,
and this letter that she had
748
00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:50,220
and this letter that she had
written. She's confessed in
749
00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:56,326
written. She's confessed in
that letter that she was the
750
00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:57,161
that letter that she was the
one who shot becki dillard that
751
00:29:57,163 --> 00:29:57,694
one who shot becki dillard that
night on that highway.
752
00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:00,631
Night on that highway.
According to the officers, she
753
00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:01,365
according to the officers, she
was very distraught. They
754
00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:02,199
was very distraught. They
stated to me she looked
755
00:30:02,201 --> 00:30:03,133
stated to me she looked
suicidal at that point. The
756
00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,401
suicidal at that point. The
sheriff himself, I believe,
757
00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:09,640
sheriff himself, I believe,
removed the gun from her. It
758
00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:10,140
removed the gun from her. It
was loaded.
759
00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:10,974
Was loaded.
>> are you're afraid of sitting
760
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:11,775
>> are you're afraid of sitting
in jail for what you've done?
761
00:30:11,777 --> 00:30:24,822
In jail for what you've done?
>> no.
762
00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:25,522
>> no.
>> no, I'm serious.
763
00:30:25,524 --> 00:30:26,156
>> no, I'm serious.
>> I haven't done anything.
764
00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:29,593
>> I haven't done anything.
>> she said that she cared
765
00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:30,394
>> she said that she cared
about billy so much that she
766
00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:30,961
about billy so much that she
figured that she was gonna
767
00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:31,895
figured that she was gonna
write this letter admitting to
768
00:30:31,897 --> 00:30:32,763
write this letter admitting to
this, and then killing herself
769
00:30:32,765 --> 00:30:33,931
this, and then killing herself
so that billy could be
770
00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:34,398
so that billy could be
released.
771
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,101
Released.
>> that's my story that I made
772
00:30:38,103 --> 00:30:38,535
>> that's my story that I made
up to get him out.
773
00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:41,672
Up to get him out.
>> she then said that she
774
00:30:41,674 --> 00:30:42,506
>> she then said that she
decided that she wasn't going
775
00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:43,507
decided that she wasn't going
to do it, but it was too late
776
00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:44,274
to do it, but it was too late
because she had already sent
777
00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:44,842
because she had already sent
out these letters.
778
00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:49,246
Out these letters.
>> I gotta have you tell me the
779
00:30:49,248 --> 00:30:49,880
>> I gotta have you tell me the
absolute truth today. I am so
780
00:30:49,882 --> 00:30:53,083
absolute truth today. I am so
sick of all the drama and the
781
00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:53,851
sick of all the drama and the
bullcrap, man, I could -- I
782
00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:54,484
bullcrap, man, I could -- I
could flush it all away.
783
00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:57,120
Could flush it all away.
>> you don't, because I want to
784
00:30:57,122 --> 00:30:57,921
>> you don't, because I want to
know who killed becki. And I'm
785
00:30:57,923 --> 00:30:58,255
know who killed becki. And I'm
telling you.
786
00:30:58,257 --> 00:31:01,091
Telling you.
>> at that point, we weren't
787
00:31:01,093 --> 00:31:02,159
>> at that point, we weren't
100 percent sure she was
788
00:31:02,161 --> 00:31:02,960
100 percent sure she was
confessing to the crime or she
789
00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,128
confessing to the crime or she
was trying to get billy out of
790
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:05,495
was trying to get billy out of
it.
791
00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,030
It.
>> I just want to believe with
792
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:07,865
>> I just want to believe with
everything that I am that billy
793
00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:08,232
everything that I am that billy
didn't do it.
794
00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,034
Didn't do it.
>> we only have one shot to
795
00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:11,668
>> we only have one shot to
convict a person. Otherwise,
796
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,504
convict a person. Otherwise,
double jeopardy attaches and we
797
00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:15,305
double jeopardy attaches and we
would not be able to try her
798
00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:15,706
would not be able to try her
again.
799
00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:18,208
Again.
>> you realize how bad this
800
00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:18,575
>> you realize how bad this
looks, deb?
801
00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:19,076
Looks, deb?
>> I'll take my break.
802
00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:22,813
>> I'll take my break.
>> a lot of cases turn on just
803
00:31:22,815 --> 00:31:23,447
>> a lot of cases turn on just
luck. And that's what happened
804
00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:24,114
luck. And that's what happened
in this case. Now, west plains
805
00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:33,457
in this case. Now, west plains
is a pretty small town, and one
806
00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:34,191
is a pretty small town, and one
day, the sheriff of howell
807
00:31:34,193 --> 00:31:34,825
day, the sheriff of howell
county, mike shannon, happened
808
00:31:34,827 --> 00:31:35,692
county, mike shannon, happened
to be getting a cup of coffee
809
00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:36,526
to be getting a cup of coffee
at the convenience store. The
810
00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:37,561
at the convenience store. The
cashier made a statement to him
811
00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:47,237
cashier made a statement to him
that debra dillard had once
812
00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:47,971
that debra dillard had once
stated to her that she was
813
00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:48,705
stated to her that she was
going to kill becki dillard,
814
00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:54,444
going to kill becki dillard,
but that she received a
815
00:31:54,446 --> 00:31:55,145
but that she received a
reprieve because she was
816
00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:55,812
reprieve because she was
pregnant with a child, and that
817
00:31:55,814 --> 00:31:56,446
pregnant with a child, and that
she was gonna wait a year. And
818
00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:57,414
she was gonna wait a year. And
oddly enough, almost to the day,
819
00:31:57,416 --> 00:31:58,382
oddly enough, almost to the day,
a year later, becki dillard was
820
00:31:58,384 --> 00:32:04,521
a year later, becki dillard was
murdered. When we received that
821
00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:05,155
murdered. When we received that
information, we felt like we
822
00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:08,558
information, we felt like we
had enough evidence to charge
823
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,226
had enough evidence to charge
debra dillard with the murder
824
00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:09,660
debra dillard with the murder
of becki dillard.
825
00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:14,464
Of becki dillard.
826
00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:21,571
>> I've dealt with other
scenarios with in-laws and
827
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,272
scenarios with in-laws and
family members and everything,
828
00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,040
family members and everything,
but never nothing so violent,
829
00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:23,774
but never nothing so violent,
so cold-blooded. They're just
830
00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:25,809
so cold-blooded. They're just
acting like the concerned
831
00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:27,644
acting like the concerned
grandparent and her boyfriend.
832
00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:29,646
Grandparent and her boyfriend.
And the whole time, they're the
833
00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:30,247
and the whole time, they're the
ones that done it.
834
00:32:30,249 --> 00:32:34,551
Ones that done it.
>> every day for 10 years, I
835
00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,787
>> every day for 10 years, I
have gone over what happened. I
836
00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:38,221
have gone over what happened. I
don't feel that my mother had
837
00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:40,257
don't feel that my mother had
anything to do with it, the way
838
00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,726
anything to do with it, the way
that everybody is saying she
839
00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:43,093
that everybody is saying she
did.
840
00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:45,595
Did.
>> our theory behind the case
841
00:32:45,597 --> 00:32:46,697
>> our theory behind the case
was that debra dillard just
842
00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:50,467
was that debra dillard just
wanted becki out of the way.
843
00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:51,868
Wanted becki out of the way.
She was making justin's life
844
00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:55,572
she was making justin's life
miserable, that debra had had
845
00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:56,006
miserable, that debra had had
enough.
846
00:32:56,008 --> 00:33:03,013
Enough.
>> she wanted those children,
847
00:33:03,015 --> 00:33:04,581
>> she wanted those children,
and the only way that she saw
848
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:07,284
and the only way that she saw
she was gonna keep them is by
849
00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:11,588
she was gonna keep them is by
getting rid of becki. Because
850
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,690
getting rid of becki. Because
justin -- there's no way that
851
00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:17,160
justin -- there's no way that
he would ever get custody with
852
00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:17,828
he would ever get custody with
his alcohol problems.
853
00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:22,165
His alcohol problems.
>> becki is gonna get the
854
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,834
>> becki is gonna get the
babies, she's gonna get child
855
00:33:23,836 --> 00:33:25,635
babies, she's gonna get child
support, and then she's gonna
856
00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:26,303
support, and then she's gonna
go on with her life.
857
00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:31,041
Go on with her life.
>> debra knew that once those
858
00:33:31,043 --> 00:33:32,809
>> debra knew that once those
children left, that becki's mom
859
00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:34,811
children left, that becki's mom
and the rest of her family was
860
00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:37,481
and the rest of her family was
not gonna let those children go
861
00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:37,881
not gonna let those children go
back.
862
00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:38,448
Back.
>> we believe that was the
863
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:39,349
>> we believe that was the
motivation that pushed her over
864
00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:40,684
motivation that pushed her over
the edge. That night, becki had
865
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:41,585
the edge. That night, becki had
angered justin, and we believe
866
00:33:41,587 --> 00:33:42,686
angered justin, and we believe
debra had just had enough, and
867
00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:45,589
debra had just had enough, and
that she was going to cure the
868
00:33:45,591 --> 00:33:46,023
that she was going to cure the
problem.
869
00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:50,427
Problem.
>> when I walked into the
870
00:33:50,429 --> 00:33:52,229
>> when I walked into the
courtroom, debra dillard looked
871
00:33:52,231 --> 00:33:54,598
courtroom, debra dillard looked
at me, but I tried to ignore
872
00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,737
at me, but I tried to ignore
her as much as possible. I saw
873
00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:01,438
her as much as possible. I saw
the hatred in her eyes.
874
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,511
The hatred in her eyes.
>> deb dillard felt like she
875
00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:08,845
>> deb dillard felt like she
could control things, like she
876
00:34:08,847 --> 00:34:10,847
could control things, like she
could make this happen and that
877
00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:11,615
could make this happen and that
she could get away with it.
878
00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:15,552
She could get away with it.
>> the defense focused on billy
879
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:16,720
>> the defense focused on billy
eastep, stating that billy was
880
00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:17,521
eastep, stating that billy was
actually the one that did it.
881
00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:21,725
Actually the one that did it.
>> she had to put the blame on
882
00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:22,726
>> she had to put the blame on
someone. So she chose billy, to
883
00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:23,460
someone. So she chose billy, to
put him as the scapegoat.
884
00:34:23,462 --> 00:34:25,662
Put him as the scapegoat.
>> he knew that she had extra
885
00:34:25,664 --> 00:34:27,230
>> he knew that she had extra
money because it was christmas.
886
00:34:27,232 --> 00:34:30,434
Money because it was christmas.
He robbed her. And so she
887
00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:31,268
he robbed her. And so she
wouldn't tell on him, he killed
888
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:33,103
wouldn't tell on him, he killed
her and played it off like
889
00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:33,937
her and played it off like
nothing had ever even happened.
890
00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:41,178
Nothing had ever even happened.
>> we believed we had enough
891
00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:44,147
>> we believed we had enough
evidence to prove debra dillard
892
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:44,981
evidence to prove debra dillard
guilty beyond a reasonable
893
00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:46,983
guilty beyond a reasonable
doubt without him. But we
894
00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:48,018
doubt without him. But we
wanted him to testify. We found
895
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:49,052
wanted him to testify. We found
out when we arrived for trial,
896
00:34:49,054 --> 00:34:56,293
out when we arrived for trial,
is that somebody had hit billy
897
00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:57,094
is that somebody had hit billy
eastep, had given him a black
898
00:34:57,096 --> 00:34:58,662
eastep, had given him a black
eye. And at that point, billy
899
00:34:58,664 --> 00:34:59,529
eye. And at that point, billy
refused to testify. Debra
900
00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:00,931
refused to testify. Debra
dillard also took the stand,
901
00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:01,932
dillard also took the stand,
and she testified on her own
902
00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:03,066
and she testified on her own
behalf. And she explained that
903
00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:04,568
behalf. And she explained that
she and becki had a wonderful
904
00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:08,705
she and becki had a wonderful
relationship, that she was a
905
00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:09,372
relationship, that she was a
great daughter-in-law.
906
00:35:09,374 --> 00:35:11,608
Great daughter-in-law.
>> she is my child. I love her.
907
00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:12,776
>> she is my child. I love her.
She didn't even know what a
908
00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:13,844
she didn't even know what a
mama was until she -- until she
909
00:35:13,846 --> 00:35:14,478
mama was until she -- until she
moved into my home.
910
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,248
Moved into my home.
>> she wanted me to be with
911
00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:19,883
>> she wanted me to be with
becki. She liked becki. She
912
00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:24,054
becki. She liked becki. She
still will say "my daughter"
913
00:35:24,056 --> 00:35:24,821
still will say "my daughter"
when she talks about becki.
914
00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:25,956
When she talks about becki.
>> the entire focus of her
915
00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:30,494
>> the entire focus of her
cross-examination was the
916
00:35:30,496 --> 00:35:32,362
cross-examination was the
letter that she had written. I
917
00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:33,363
letter that she had written. I
went line by line with her on
918
00:35:33,365 --> 00:35:34,998
went line by line with her on
that and actually gave her the
919
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,199
that and actually gave her the
opportunity to explain it away.
920
00:35:36,201 --> 00:35:38,201
Opportunity to explain it away.
And she tried, and it was
921
00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:43,473
and she tried, and it was
obvious to me that she was not
922
00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:44,040
obvious to me that she was not
being truthful.
923
00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:46,743
Being truthful.
>> her brother testified
924
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,544
>> her brother testified
against her and actually told
925
00:35:47,546 --> 00:35:51,081
against her and actually told
the whole court that she had
926
00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:51,848
the whole court that she had
conspired to do this a year
927
00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:52,516
conspired to do this a year
before when she found out becki
928
00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:53,183
before when she found out becki
was pregnant, that she was
929
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:55,218
was pregnant, that she was
going to be the one that
930
00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:56,486
going to be the one that
murdered becki because she was
931
00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:57,053
murdered becki because she was
bad for her son.
932
00:35:57,055 --> 00:36:04,027
Bad for her son.
>> if she was gonna kill
933
00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:05,362
>> if she was gonna kill
somebody, it wouldn't be her
934
00:36:05,364 --> 00:36:06,796
somebody, it wouldn't be her
children. It wouldn't be me. It
935
00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:07,764
children. It wouldn't be me. It
wouldn't be becki. It wouldn't
936
00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:09,032
wouldn't be becki. It wouldn't
be our kids. It would be
937
00:36:09,034 --> 00:36:10,734
be our kids. It would be
somebody that hurt us. My
938
00:36:10,736 --> 00:36:12,569
somebody that hurt us. My
mother confessed because if she
939
00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:15,539
mother confessed because if she
didn't, she was afraid that
940
00:36:15,541 --> 00:36:16,573
didn't, she was afraid that
they would come after me and
941
00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:17,040
they would come after me and
the kids.
942
00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:30,754
The kids.
>> whenever a case goes to the
943
00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:32,055
>> whenever a case goes to the
jury, I'm always concerned. Did
944
00:36:32,057 --> 00:36:33,957
jury, I'm always concerned. Did
they believe the witnesses? Did
945
00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:36,927
they believe the witnesses? Did
they believe debra's version?
946
00:36:36,929 --> 00:36:38,662
They believe debra's version?
Every prosecutor has that
947
00:36:38,664 --> 00:36:41,231
every prosecutor has that
concern because, of course, we
948
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:42,766
concern because, of course, we
have to prove a case beyond a
949
00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:45,135
have to prove a case beyond a
reasonable doubt. The jury
950
00:36:45,137 --> 00:36:47,103
reasonable doubt. The jury
found her guilty. She broke
951
00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:49,005
found her guilty. She broke
down. I mean, she basically
952
00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:49,506
down. I mean, she basically
fell apart.
953
00:36:49,508 --> 00:36:53,610
Fell apart.
>> not until the jury came back
954
00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:54,678
>> not until the jury came back
and said "guilty" did she show
955
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,912
and said "guilty" did she show
any kind of emotion. That just
956
00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,215
any kind of emotion. That just
tells me she was guilty, with
957
00:36:58,217 --> 00:36:58,882
tells me she was guilty, with
no remorse whatsoever.
958
00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:03,353
No remorse whatsoever.
>> she didn't kill anybody. She
959
00:37:03,355 --> 00:37:06,389
>> she didn't kill anybody. She
wasn't there. She couldn't have
960
00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:10,994
wasn't there. She couldn't have
been there. Whoever killed
961
00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:14,564
been there. Whoever killed
becki, I don't think we will
962
00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:15,098
becki, I don't think we will
ever know why.
963
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:19,202
Ever know why.
>> in a first-degree murder
964
00:37:19,204 --> 00:37:20,604
>> in a first-degree murder
case in missouri, the only
965
00:37:20,606 --> 00:37:22,305
case in missouri, the only
sentence in this case would
966
00:37:22,307 --> 00:37:23,673
sentence in this case would
have been life without parole.
967
00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:25,375
Have been life without parole.
So when the verdict came down
968
00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:28,445
so when the verdict came down
and the sentencing came down, I
969
00:37:28,447 --> 00:37:31,248
and the sentencing came down, I
just felt like justice had been
970
00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:31,715
just felt like justice had been
served.
971
00:37:31,717 --> 00:37:34,751
Served.
>> we were never able to prove
972
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:35,986
>> we were never able to prove
that justin dillard had
973
00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:37,287
that justin dillard had
anything to do with becki's
974
00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:40,023
anything to do with becki's
death. There is suspicion. But
975
00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:41,958
death. There is suspicion. But
even today, I couldn't tell you
976
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,627
even today, I couldn't tell you
for sure who pulled the
977
00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:44,027
for sure who pulled the
trigger.
978
00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:47,030
Trigger.
>> becki's family has done a
979
00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:48,365
>> becki's family has done a
very good job of making me look
980
00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:49,799
very good job of making me look
bad. Feel like I have been
981
00:37:49,801 --> 00:37:51,601
bad. Feel like I have been
victimized, very much so. I
982
00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,436
victimized, very much so. I
lost my house, my kids, my wife,
983
00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,305
lost my house, my kids, my wife,
my mom. 10 years, and it still
984
00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:58,341
my mom. 10 years, and it still
hurts just as much. It's never
985
00:37:58,343 --> 00:37:58,808
hurts just as much. It's never
gonna go away, ever.
986
00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:06,082
Gonna go away, ever.
>> whatever justin did, debra
987
00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:07,384
>> whatever justin did, debra
told him to do. Whatever billy
988
00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:08,852
told him to do. Whatever billy
did, debra was in control of
989
00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:10,654
did, debra was in control of
that. She was the more dominant
990
00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,355
that. She was the more dominant
one in that home, and there was
991
00:38:12,357 --> 00:38:17,460
one in that home, and there was
only one person in that home
992
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,496
only one person in that home
that wanted to defy her, and
993
00:38:19,498 --> 00:38:20,096
that wanted to defy her, and
that was becki.
994
00:38:20,098 --> 00:38:26,603
That was becki.
>> the wolf followed becki to
995
00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:30,640
>> the wolf followed becki to
that roadside spot where she
996
00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,575
that roadside spot where she
was killed. And so, we work
997
00:38:32,577 --> 00:38:34,678
was killed. And so, we work
hard for every victim, but it's
998
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,746
hard for every victim, but it's
especially difficult when you
999
00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,081
especially difficult when you
see somebody that isn't doing
1000
00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:39,983
see somebody that isn't doing
the wrong thing and bad things
1001
00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:40,617
the wrong thing and bad things
come and find them.
1002
00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:44,487
Come and find them.
>> my best friend, my wife, my
1003
00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,589
>> my best friend, my wife, my
everything is in the ground. I
1004
00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:50,827
everything is in the ground. I
pray every day that heaven's
1005
00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:51,561
pray every day that heaven's
real, because that's where
1006
00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:52,295
real, because that's where
she's at. And I know that all I
1007
00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:54,831
she's at. And I know that all I
have to do is keep praying and
1008
00:38:54,833 --> 00:39:00,570
have to do is keep praying and
I'll see her again.
1009
00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:23,393
I'll see her again.
97958
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