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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,306 --> 00:00:08,974 Dead. Authorities say this is near where becki's body was 2 00:00:08,976 --> 00:00:09,842 near where becki's body was found. They say she was near 3 00:00:09,844 --> 00:00:11,176 found. They say she was near her car, but her injuries were 4 00:00:11,178 --> 00:00:13,445 her car, but her injuries were not consistent with that of a 5 00:00:13,447 --> 00:00:13,912 not consistent with that of a car crash. 6 00:00:13,914 --> 00:00:18,050 Car crash. >> the vehicle was still 7 00:00:18,052 --> 00:00:19,318 >> the vehicle was still running. The young lady was 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:20,386 running. The young lady was laying in the roadway with a 9 00:00:20,388 --> 00:00:21,153 laying in the roadway with a gunshot wound to her head. 10 00:00:21,155 --> 00:00:22,688 Gunshot wound to her head. >> when justin drank, he became 11 00:00:22,690 --> 00:00:24,456 >> when justin drank, he became a totally different person. He 12 00:00:24,458 --> 00:00:24,990 a totally different person. He became angry. 13 00:00:24,992 --> 00:00:29,595 Became angry. >> every day, I've gone over 14 00:00:29,597 --> 00:00:30,396 >> every day, I've gone over what happened, if I could do 15 00:00:30,398 --> 00:00:30,929 what happened, if I could do anything different. 16 00:00:30,931 --> 00:00:32,865 Anything different. >> a lot of cases turn on just 17 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:35,401 >> a lot of cases turn on just luck. And that's what happened 18 00:00:35,403 --> 00:00:35,934 luck. And that's what happened in this case. 19 00:00:35,936 --> 00:00:38,904 In this case. >> adrenaline was coursing 20 00:00:38,906 --> 00:00:39,938 >> adrenaline was coursing through my veins. How far 21 00:00:39,940 --> 00:00:40,739 through my veins. How far behind was I from the killer? 22 00:00:40,741 --> 00:00:43,008 Behind was I from the killer? >> five unique perspectives. 23 00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:44,410 >> five unique perspectives. Five points of view. One 24 00:00:44,412 --> 00:00:44,843 five points of view. One murder. 25 00:00:44,845 --> 00:00:47,813 Murder. >> I'm becki dillard's husband. 26 00:00:47,815 --> 00:00:49,381 >> I'm becki dillard's husband. >> I am becki's mother. 27 00:00:49,383 --> 00:00:52,684 >> I am becki's mother. >> I was the first responding 28 00:00:52,686 --> 00:00:53,352 >> I was the first responding trooper to the murder. 29 00:00:53,354 --> 00:00:54,520 Trooper to the murder. >> I'm a criminal investigator. 30 00:00:54,522 --> 00:00:56,355 >> I'm a criminal investigator. >> and I was the prosecuting 31 00:00:56,357 --> 00:00:56,855 >> and I was the prosecuting attorney. 32 00:00:56,857 --> 00:01:09,668 Attorney. >> my name's justin dillard. 33 00:01:09,670 --> 00:01:11,303 >> my name's justin dillard. I'm becki dillard's husband. 34 00:01:11,305 --> 00:01:14,273 I'm becki dillard's husband. Becki was like a little 35 00:01:14,275 --> 00:01:16,075 becki was like a little bumblebee. She was adhd, 36 00:01:16,077 --> 00:01:17,643 bumblebee. She was adhd, running around, touching 37 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:19,611 running around, touching everybody, making everybody's 38 00:01:19,613 --> 00:01:22,247 everybody, making everybody's life happy. Like a little fairy, 39 00:01:22,249 --> 00:01:23,816 life happy. Like a little fairy, just as sweet as she could be. 40 00:01:23,818 --> 00:01:25,617 Just as sweet as she could be. I loved that she could walk in 41 00:01:25,619 --> 00:01:27,319 I loved that she could walk in a room, and it could be a bad 42 00:01:27,321 --> 00:01:31,023 a room, and it could be a bad day in that room, and she'd 43 00:01:31,025 --> 00:01:31,657 day in that room, and she'd just turn it all around. "I'm 44 00:01:31,659 --> 00:01:32,691 just turn it all around. "I'm here. Here I am. Smile now. 45 00:01:32,693 --> 00:01:36,528 Here. Here I am. Smile now. It's okay." we were doing 46 00:01:36,530 --> 00:01:38,397 it's okay." we were doing pretty good at that 47 00:01:38,399 --> 00:01:40,833 pretty good at that happily-ever-after fairy tale, 48 00:01:40,835 --> 00:01:42,768 happily-ever-after fairy tale, kind of what we wanted. Here we 49 00:01:42,770 --> 00:01:43,635 kind of what we wanted. Here we are married, down the road, and 50 00:01:43,637 --> 00:01:47,739 are married, down the road, and kids. This is my best friend, 51 00:01:47,741 --> 00:01:49,041 kids. This is my best friend, my wife, mother of my kids. We 52 00:01:49,043 --> 00:01:51,710 my wife, mother of my kids. We were supposed to be together, 53 00:01:51,712 --> 00:01:53,312 were supposed to be together, arguing, bickering over her 54 00:01:53,314 --> 00:01:59,518 arguing, bickering over her cooking 20 years from now. My 55 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,619 cooking 20 years from now. My life literally changed -- all 56 00:02:00,621 --> 00:02:04,423 life literally changed -- all -- it changed completely in one 57 00:02:04,425 --> 00:02:08,794 -- it changed completely in one day. I have never felt the pain 58 00:02:08,796 --> 00:02:10,362 day. I have never felt the pain that I felt. I wouldn't wish 59 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:13,465 that I felt. I wouldn't wish this on anybody. It was Friday 60 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:20,839 this on anybody. It was Friday the 13th. I remember thinking, 61 00:02:20,841 --> 00:02:25,110 the 13th. I remember thinking, "oh, lord, here we go. What's 62 00:02:25,112 --> 00:02:27,679 "oh, lord, here we go. What's gonna happen today? " becki got 63 00:02:27,681 --> 00:02:30,415 gonna happen today? " becki got home and changed and was 64 00:02:30,417 --> 00:02:32,284 home and changed and was getting ready to go to her 65 00:02:32,286 --> 00:02:34,453 getting ready to go to her sister's party. It was sarah's 66 00:02:34,455 --> 00:02:36,421 sister's party. It was sarah's 21st birthday party. She was 67 00:02:36,423 --> 00:02:38,490 21st birthday party. She was already late. She had to get 68 00:02:38,492 --> 00:02:40,058 already late. She had to get gas, she had to go back to 69 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:41,293 gas, she had to go back to walmart. She was gonna pick 70 00:02:41,295 --> 00:02:42,828 walmart. She was gonna pick something up for sarah. I 71 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:44,196 something up for sarah. I really didn't want to go. I 72 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:45,931 really didn't want to go. I changed my mind two or three 73 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:48,000 changed my mind two or three times and finally, I decided, 74 00:02:48,002 --> 00:02:49,601 times and finally, I decided, "you know what? I'll just stay 75 00:02:49,603 --> 00:02:53,639 "you know what? I'll just stay home." well, at 9:30 that night, 76 00:02:53,641 --> 00:02:56,542 home." well, at 9:30 that night, her brother had called and said, 77 00:02:56,544 --> 00:02:58,644 her brother had called and said, "where's becki? " she should be 78 00:02:58,646 --> 00:03:04,116 "where's becki? " she should be there pretty soon. She left at 79 00:03:04,118 --> 00:03:07,586 there pretty soon. She left at 9:00. 10:00 came around, and 80 00:03:07,588 --> 00:03:09,087 9:00. 10:00 came around, and she still wasn't there. Talked 81 00:03:09,089 --> 00:03:12,491 she still wasn't there. Talked to sarah that time, and sarah 82 00:03:12,493 --> 00:03:13,592 to sarah that time, and sarah said, "well, she should be here 83 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:14,826 said, "well, she should be here by now." and I said, "well, 84 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:15,494 by now." and I said, "well, yeah, she should be there." and 85 00:03:15,496 --> 00:03:16,828 yeah, she should be there." and she still wasn't. By the third 86 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:17,963 she still wasn't. By the third phone call, I was worried. I 87 00:03:17,965 --> 00:03:19,565 phone call, I was worried. I thought, "okay, something ain't 88 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:20,532 thought, "okay, something ain't right." at that point, I knew 89 00:03:20,534 --> 00:03:22,868 right." at that point, I knew it was not good. So then, okay, 90 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:26,505 it was not good. So then, okay, we need to go find out where 91 00:03:26,507 --> 00:03:29,741 we need to go find out where she's at. So I called my friend 92 00:03:29,743 --> 00:03:35,147 she's at. So I called my friend lindsey that was also her 93 00:03:35,149 --> 00:03:36,982 lindsey that was also her friend, as well. I said, 94 00:03:36,984 --> 00:03:38,884 friend, as well. I said, "lindsey, come up here and get 95 00:03:38,886 --> 00:03:40,219 "lindsey, come up here and get me." so lindsey says, "I'm on 96 00:03:40,221 --> 00:03:41,587 me." so lindsey says, "I'm on my way." and she comes and gets 97 00:03:41,589 --> 00:03:44,656 my way." and she comes and gets me, and we try to track her 98 00:03:44,658 --> 00:03:46,191 me, and we try to track her down, and we went where she was 99 00:03:46,193 --> 00:03:48,193 down, and we went where she was supposed to be going. We 100 00:03:48,195 --> 00:03:49,728 supposed to be going. We actually went to the gas 101 00:03:49,730 --> 00:03:51,363 actually went to the gas station she was going to. We 102 00:03:51,365 --> 00:03:56,435 station she was going to. We went the way she was going, and 103 00:03:56,437 --> 00:03:59,671 went the way she was going, and she wasn't on the side of road. 104 00:03:59,673 --> 00:04:01,473 She wasn't on the side of road. Nobody knows where she's at. 105 00:04:01,475 --> 00:04:03,108 Nobody knows where she's at. And that's not like her. We 106 00:04:03,110 --> 00:04:04,509 and that's not like her. We always knew where everybody 107 00:04:04,511 --> 00:04:06,378 always knew where everybody else was. We get to the party 108 00:04:06,380 --> 00:04:12,651 else was. We get to the party and there's some police that 109 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:13,685 and there's some police that want to talk to me. They tell 110 00:04:13,687 --> 00:04:14,653 want to talk to me. They tell me that I need to come with 111 00:04:14,655 --> 00:04:16,688 me that I need to come with them. I didn't think it had 112 00:04:16,690 --> 00:04:20,192 them. I didn't think it had anything to do with becki. My 113 00:04:20,194 --> 00:04:23,495 anything to do with becki. My world was perfect. And she's 114 00:04:23,497 --> 00:04:28,300 world was perfect. And she's not supposed to be hurt. She's 115 00:04:28,302 --> 00:04:29,434 not supposed to be hurt. She's not supposed to be harmed. That 116 00:04:29,436 --> 00:04:30,936 not supposed to be harmed. That never crossed my mind. When 117 00:04:30,938 --> 00:04:37,109 never crossed my mind. When becki and I met, we hit it off 118 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:37,909 becki and I met, we hit it off right off, right off the bat. 119 00:04:37,911 --> 00:04:44,316 Right off, right off the bat. We became really close, really 120 00:04:44,318 --> 00:04:45,550 we became really close, really good friends. Becki was the new 121 00:04:45,552 --> 00:04:48,120 good friends. Becki was the new girl. And, you know, when 122 00:04:48,122 --> 00:04:48,920 girl. And, you know, when somebody is new, everybody 123 00:04:48,922 --> 00:04:49,721 somebody is new, everybody wants to find out about them, 124 00:04:49,723 --> 00:04:50,789 wants to find out about them, what they're doing, who they 125 00:04:50,791 --> 00:04:51,790 what they're doing, who they are, what's going on. And I had 126 00:04:51,792 --> 00:04:52,591 are, what's going on. And I had a small, little crush on her. 127 00:04:52,593 --> 00:04:53,325 A small, little crush on her. Our interests were very 128 00:04:53,327 --> 00:04:55,627 our interests were very similar. She was into fashion 129 00:04:55,629 --> 00:04:56,928 similar. She was into fashion and clothes and hair and 130 00:04:56,930 --> 00:04:58,030 and clothes and hair and appearance. And I know that 131 00:04:58,032 --> 00:04:59,965 appearance. And I know that sounds vain, but back then, we 132 00:04:59,967 --> 00:05:00,932 sounds vain, but back then, we were still in high school. We'd 133 00:05:00,934 --> 00:05:02,334 were still in high school. We'd call each other and be like, 134 00:05:02,336 --> 00:05:06,772 call each other and be like, "well, what are you gonna wear? 135 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:07,906 "well, what are you gonna wear? I'm gonna wear this." we were 136 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:09,241 I'm gonna wear this." we were always inseparable, but we were, 137 00:05:09,243 --> 00:05:10,175 always inseparable, but we were, for real, together. We 138 00:05:10,177 --> 00:05:14,513 for real, together. We graduated high school in may. 139 00:05:14,515 --> 00:05:15,747 Graduated high school in may. And by mid-June, she moved in 140 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:17,516 and by mid-June, she moved in with me and my mom. I got to 141 00:05:17,518 --> 00:05:30,395 with me and my mom. I got to the police station. I sat there, 142 00:05:30,397 --> 00:05:32,831 the police station. I sat there, and it seemed like I sat there 143 00:05:32,833 --> 00:05:35,300 and it seemed like I sat there forever and ever and ever 144 00:05:35,302 --> 00:05:37,035 forever and ever and ever before anybody even came in. 145 00:05:37,037 --> 00:05:38,737 Before anybody even came in. And but then this man came in. 146 00:05:38,739 --> 00:05:42,341 And but then this man came in. They wouldn't tell me anything. 147 00:05:42,343 --> 00:05:46,044 They wouldn't tell me anything. They wanted me to answer all 148 00:05:46,046 --> 00:05:47,913 they wanted me to answer all these questions, but they would 149 00:05:47,915 --> 00:05:49,281 these questions, but they would not answer any of mine. And 150 00:05:49,283 --> 00:05:52,017 not answer any of mine. And finally, this older gentleman 151 00:05:52,019 --> 00:05:53,685 finally, this older gentleman said, "well, we found becki 152 00:05:53,687 --> 00:05:55,721 said, "well, we found becki without a pulse." I'll never 153 00:05:55,723 --> 00:06:04,863 without a pulse." I'll never forget the pain, the sickness. 154 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:05,664 Forget the pain, the sickness. That is not something you can 155 00:06:05,666 --> 00:06:06,732 that is not something you can describe, when someone tells 156 00:06:06,734 --> 00:06:07,899 describe, when someone tells you your whole world is not 157 00:06:07,901 --> 00:06:11,436 you your whole world is not alive, is gone, is dead, is 158 00:06:11,438 --> 00:06:12,404 alive, is gone, is dead, is over -- that blunt. You don't 159 00:06:12,406 --> 00:06:17,743 over -- that blunt. You don't just do that to somebody. They 160 00:06:17,745 --> 00:06:18,744 just do that to somebody. They questioned me for, it seemed 161 00:06:18,746 --> 00:06:25,884 questioned me for, it seemed like hours. They asked me 162 00:06:25,886 --> 00:06:26,651 like hours. They asked me questions like, "do you have 163 00:06:26,653 --> 00:06:27,285 questions like, "do you have weapons? Do you have guns? Is 164 00:06:27,287 --> 00:06:28,620 weapons? Do you have guns? Is there anybody that would harm 165 00:06:28,622 --> 00:06:32,491 there anybody that would harm her? Would you harm her? " I 166 00:06:32,493 --> 00:06:33,458 her? Would you harm her? " I watch enough tv to know that 167 00:06:33,460 --> 00:06:35,127 watch enough tv to know that they come after the husband or 168 00:06:35,129 --> 00:06:37,129 they come after the husband or the spouse in these situations. 169 00:06:37,131 --> 00:06:38,330 The spouse in these situations. I thought, "well, surely 170 00:06:38,332 --> 00:06:39,131 I thought, "well, surely they're gonna come after me." 171 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:44,403 they're gonna come after me." 172 00:06:53,446 --> 00:06:54,746 >> I'm clinton howell. I was the first responding trooper to 173 00:06:54,748 --> 00:06:55,580 the first responding trooper to the murder of becki dillard. I 174 00:06:55,582 --> 00:06:56,648 the murder of becki dillard. I was north of west plains on 63 175 00:06:56,650 --> 00:06:57,416 was north of west plains on 63 highway working some traffic 176 00:06:57,418 --> 00:06:58,517 highway working some traffic that night. And troop called me 177 00:06:58,519 --> 00:07:01,286 that night. And troop called me and informed me of a motor 178 00:07:01,288 --> 00:07:02,988 and informed me of a motor vehicle crash with injuries on 179 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:04,489 vehicle crash with injuries on ff highway, in the southern 180 00:07:04,491 --> 00:07:06,625 ff highway, in the southern part of howell county. While I 181 00:07:06,627 --> 00:07:08,593 part of howell county. While I was en route, then I was 182 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,129 was en route, then I was advised that there may be a 183 00:07:11,131 --> 00:07:15,300 advised that there may be a fatality involved. I come 184 00:07:15,302 --> 00:07:18,036 fatality involved. I come around the corner, and there 185 00:07:18,038 --> 00:07:19,538 around the corner, and there was a vehicle sitting on the 186 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:22,474 was a vehicle sitting on the left-hand side of the road in 187 00:07:22,476 --> 00:07:24,709 left-hand side of the road in the grass, still running. And I 188 00:07:24,711 --> 00:07:28,814 the grass, still running. And I could see a young lady laying 189 00:07:28,816 --> 00:07:32,050 could see a young lady laying near the center line, all 190 00:07:32,052 --> 00:07:34,386 near the center line, all crumpled up, and there was a 191 00:07:34,388 --> 00:07:35,587 crumpled up, and there was a few people standing around. I 192 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:37,522 few people standing around. I jumped out of my car real quick 193 00:07:37,524 --> 00:07:40,659 jumped out of my car real quick and went right to her right off 194 00:07:40,661 --> 00:07:45,397 and went right to her right off the bat. I noticed blood on her 195 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:46,631 the bat. I noticed blood on her scalp. I assessed her real 196 00:07:46,633 --> 00:07:55,173 scalp. I assessed her real quick, and she was already 197 00:07:55,175 --> 00:07:57,142 quick, and she was already gone. There was nothing I could 198 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:58,343 gone. There was nothing I could do for her at that point. This 199 00:07:58,345 --> 00:07:59,177 do for her at that point. This young lady was still very warm. 200 00:07:59,179 --> 00:08:01,046 Young lady was still very warm. It wasn't like she'd been 201 00:08:01,048 --> 00:08:02,747 it wasn't like she'd been laying there very long. It was 202 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:04,216 laying there very long. It was an odd scenario because the 203 00:08:04,218 --> 00:08:05,717 an odd scenario because the vehicle didn't have any damage 204 00:08:05,719 --> 00:08:06,852 vehicle didn't have any damage on it when I rolled up. And it 205 00:08:06,854 --> 00:08:08,320 on it when I rolled up. And it was upright, sitting off in the 206 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:09,955 was upright, sitting off in the grass like it had been pulled 207 00:08:09,957 --> 00:08:12,424 grass like it had been pulled off there. So my gut instinct 208 00:08:12,426 --> 00:08:14,059 off there. So my gut instinct was already going wild. Started 209 00:08:14,061 --> 00:08:17,395 was already going wild. Started looking around, located a 210 00:08:17,397 --> 00:08:19,097 looking around, located a couple shell casings in the 211 00:08:19,099 --> 00:08:21,099 couple shell casings in the road near her body. They shined 212 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:24,202 road near her body. They shined in my patrol car headlights. 213 00:08:24,204 --> 00:08:30,342 In my patrol car headlights. Adrenaline was coursing through 214 00:08:30,344 --> 00:08:32,844 adrenaline was coursing through my veins. Is there somebody out 215 00:08:32,846 --> 00:08:36,548 my veins. Is there somebody out just 20 feet off the road in 216 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:39,718 just 20 feet off the road in the brush? Because there's no 217 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,453 the brush? Because there's no lighting out there, and the 218 00:08:41,455 --> 00:08:43,088 lighting out there, and the only way the scene's lit up is 219 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:44,322 only way the scene's lit up is with my patrol car headlights. 220 00:08:44,324 --> 00:08:49,761 With my patrol car headlights. I knew that I needed some help 221 00:08:49,763 --> 00:08:50,862 I knew that I needed some help real quick. I immediately keyed 222 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:52,430 real quick. I immediately keyed up and told troop to get ddcc 223 00:08:52,432 --> 00:08:53,932 up and told troop to get ddcc investigators en route. As I'm 224 00:08:53,934 --> 00:08:55,200 investigators en route. As I'm waiting for my investigators 225 00:08:55,202 --> 00:08:56,735 waiting for my investigators and backup to show up, I'm 226 00:08:56,737 --> 00:09:00,405 and backup to show up, I'm telling everybody to stay put 227 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:03,575 telling everybody to stay put and not move because they're 228 00:09:03,577 --> 00:09:04,809 and not move because they're actively part of a crime scene. 229 00:09:04,811 --> 00:09:07,579 Actively part of a crime scene. One of them could be the 230 00:09:07,581 --> 00:09:10,248 one of them could be the shooter. So I visited with each 231 00:09:10,250 --> 00:09:12,017 shooter. So I visited with each one of them individually to try 232 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:13,718 one of them individually to try to assess them and their story, 233 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,988 to assess them and their story, why they were there. There was 234 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:20,625 why they were there. There was no flags from anybody I talked 235 00:09:20,627 --> 00:09:22,894 no flags from anybody I talked to. I moved over to her vehicle, 236 00:09:22,896 --> 00:09:29,167 to. I moved over to her vehicle, making sure not to touch it, 237 00:09:29,169 --> 00:09:31,136 making sure not to touch it, looked in it through the glass. 238 00:09:31,138 --> 00:09:33,071 Looked in it through the glass. I could shine my flashlight in 239 00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:36,675 I could shine my flashlight in there. I could see that the 240 00:09:36,677 --> 00:09:42,714 there. I could see that the heater was on and it was 241 00:09:42,716 --> 00:09:44,316 heater was on and it was sitting there idling. Her purse 242 00:09:44,318 --> 00:09:46,651 sitting there idling. Her purse was still there in the vehicle. 243 00:09:46,653 --> 00:09:51,156 Was still there in the vehicle. It didn't appear to be 244 00:09:51,158 --> 00:09:52,257 it didn't appear to be disturbed. It was, like, in the 245 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:52,958 disturbed. It was, like, in the same spot where she had set it, 246 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:53,592 same spot where she had set it, over in the passenger side. 247 00:09:53,594 --> 00:09:54,259 Over in the passenger side. When people break in and steal 248 00:09:54,261 --> 00:09:54,826 when people break in and steal vehicles, of course, they 249 00:09:54,828 --> 00:09:55,627 vehicles, of course, they usually dump them or scatter 250 00:09:55,629 --> 00:09:56,795 usually dump them or scatter stuff. Robbery was not a motive 251 00:09:56,797 --> 00:09:57,562 stuff. Robbery was not a motive with this victim. When entry 252 00:09:57,564 --> 00:09:59,931 with this victim. When entry was made into the vehicle, it 253 00:09:59,933 --> 00:10:01,266 was made into the vehicle, it was made by warren wiedemann, 254 00:10:01,268 --> 00:10:02,334 was made by warren wiedemann, our ddcc investigator. He 255 00:10:02,336 --> 00:10:03,268 our ddcc investigator. He looked in her purse, of course, 256 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,469 looked in her purse, of course, so there was a driver's license 257 00:10:04,471 --> 00:10:07,072 so there was a driver's license and it was easy to make 258 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:07,872 and it was easy to make positive identification right 259 00:10:07,874 --> 00:10:08,807 positive identification right there. Her name was becki 260 00:10:08,809 --> 00:10:11,476 there. Her name was becki dillard, from the west plains 261 00:10:11,478 --> 00:10:17,215 dillard, from the west plains area. The early assumption is 262 00:10:17,217 --> 00:10:19,918 area. The early assumption is that she was traveling to an 263 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,119 that she was traveling to an undisclosed location -- we 264 00:10:21,121 --> 00:10:22,554 undisclosed location -- we didn't know -- and for some 265 00:10:22,556 --> 00:10:26,424 didn't know -- and for some reason, she got flagged down, 266 00:10:26,426 --> 00:10:27,826 reason, she got flagged down, and she exited her vehicle to 267 00:10:27,828 --> 00:10:28,760 and she exited her vehicle to get out and talk to them, and 268 00:10:28,762 --> 00:10:30,261 get out and talk to them, and they shot her right there in 269 00:10:30,263 --> 00:10:31,429 they shot her right there in the middle of the road. She 270 00:10:31,431 --> 00:10:33,398 the middle of the road. She would not stop in the middle of 271 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:34,432 would not stop in the middle of the night for a stranger in the 272 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:38,370 the night for a stranger in the middle of nowhere on this old 273 00:10:38,372 --> 00:10:43,241 middle of nowhere on this old backroad. It was blatantly 274 00:10:43,243 --> 00:10:44,175 backroad. It was blatantly obvious it was somebody that 275 00:10:44,177 --> 00:10:47,879 obvious it was somebody that she knew and that she felt 276 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:48,847 she knew and that she felt comfortable with. Everything 277 00:10:48,849 --> 00:10:50,181 comfortable with. Everything was intact. None of her 278 00:10:50,183 --> 00:10:51,549 was intact. None of her clothing was ripped. There was 279 00:10:51,551 --> 00:10:52,617 clothing was ripped. There was no signs of no struggle. So all 280 00:10:52,619 --> 00:10:53,852 no signs of no struggle. So all the obvious indicators are it 281 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:56,221 the obvious indicators are it was a hit. And it was our job 282 00:10:56,223 --> 00:10:57,622 was a hit. And it was our job to find out why and get that 283 00:10:57,624 --> 00:10:59,290 to find out why and get that person. If there's a fatality 284 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:00,191 person. If there's a fatality involved, then I have to notify 285 00:11:00,193 --> 00:11:02,327 involved, then I have to notify next of kin and contact family. 286 00:11:02,329 --> 00:11:03,528 Next of kin and contact family. And we never do that by the 287 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:04,696 and we never do that by the phone. We always do it in 288 00:11:04,698 --> 00:11:05,797 phone. We always do it in person. Throughout our 289 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:07,699 person. Throughout our conversations with some of our 290 00:11:07,701 --> 00:11:11,036 conversations with some of our local contacts and people, we 291 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:13,538 local contacts and people, we were able to determine that 292 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:14,973 were able to determine that becki had a husband and his 293 00:11:14,975 --> 00:11:18,276 becki had a husband and his name was justin dillard. Of 294 00:11:18,278 --> 00:11:20,779 name was justin dillard. Of course, we don't rule out 295 00:11:20,781 --> 00:11:22,380 course, we don't rule out anybody at that early stage. 296 00:11:22,382 --> 00:11:23,915 Anybody at that early stage. Everybody is a suspect at that 297 00:11:23,917 --> 00:11:25,850 everybody is a suspect at that point, and we needed to 298 00:11:25,852 --> 00:11:27,085 point, and we needed to interview him. We developed 299 00:11:27,087 --> 00:11:28,586 interview him. We developed information that becki's 300 00:11:28,588 --> 00:11:30,522 information that becki's husband was at a party on a 301 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:31,456 husband was at a party on a county road west of west 302 00:11:31,458 --> 00:11:32,457 county road west of west plains. So me and a deputy 303 00:11:32,459 --> 00:11:34,359 plains. So me and a deputy rolled onto that location. We 304 00:11:34,361 --> 00:11:35,760 rolled onto that location. We tell him that we have, you know, 305 00:11:35,762 --> 00:11:37,262 tell him that we have, you know, some bad news for him. He's 306 00:11:37,264 --> 00:11:38,296 some bad news for him. He's distraught. Very, very, very 307 00:11:38,298 --> 00:11:40,999 distraught. Very, very, very dramatic. Some initial 308 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:49,340 dramatic. Some initial observations that made some 309 00:11:49,342 --> 00:11:53,978 observations that made some flags go off, from just an 310 00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:56,915 flags go off, from just an investigation standpoint -- 311 00:11:56,917 --> 00:12:01,586 investigation standpoint -- he's a young male married to a 312 00:12:01,588 --> 00:12:03,421 he's a young male married to a beautiful young woman with two 313 00:12:03,423 --> 00:12:05,223 beautiful young woman with two beautiful kids, and he's 314 00:12:05,225 --> 00:12:09,060 beautiful kids, and he's wearing pink cowboy boots, a 315 00:12:09,062 --> 00:12:10,295 wearing pink cowboy boots, a pink shirt, and has makeup on. 316 00:12:10,297 --> 00:12:12,430 Pink shirt, and has makeup on. And that may not be a flag in a 317 00:12:12,432 --> 00:12:14,466 and that may not be a flag in a metro area, but in rural howell 318 00:12:14,468 --> 00:12:16,501 metro area, but in rural howell county, that's a huge flag. We 319 00:12:16,503 --> 00:12:19,671 county, that's a huge flag. We had to figure out, was there, 320 00:12:19,673 --> 00:12:23,608 had to figure out, was there, you know, extramarital affairs 321 00:12:23,610 --> 00:12:24,509 you know, extramarital affairs going on? Was there domestic 322 00:12:24,511 --> 00:12:27,178 going on? Was there domestic violence? We placed him in a 323 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,947 violence? We placed him in a patrol car, headed towards the 324 00:12:28,949 --> 00:12:34,919 patrol car, headed towards the sheriff's office as quickly and 325 00:12:34,921 --> 00:12:36,187 sheriff's office as quickly and safely as possible. At that 326 00:12:36,189 --> 00:12:37,288 safely as possible. At that point, it was time for me to 327 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:40,091 point, it was time for me to step back out. When I left the 328 00:12:40,093 --> 00:12:44,195 step back out. When I left the sheriff's office that night, he 329 00:12:44,197 --> 00:12:45,830 sheriff's office that night, he was one of the suspects, 330 00:12:45,832 --> 00:12:46,631 was one of the suspects, definitely, in my mind. I just 331 00:12:46,633 --> 00:12:47,065 definitely, in my mind. I just couldn't shake it. 332 00:12:47,067 --> 00:12:48,500 Couldn't shake it. >> I am debbie talbert, becki's 333 00:12:48,502 --> 00:12:51,236 >> I am debbie talbert, becki's mother. Ar 334 00:12:58,177 --> 00:12:59,544 >> I am debbie talbert, becki's mother. Around 2:00 that night, 335 00:12:59,546 --> 00:13:02,514 mother. Around 2:00 that night, the phone rang. I got up and 336 00:13:02,516 --> 00:13:05,617 the phone rang. I got up and answered it. And it was becki's 337 00:13:05,619 --> 00:13:08,553 answered it. And it was becki's father, benny. He was crying, 338 00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:10,488 father, benny. He was crying, which is unusual for benny, and 339 00:13:10,490 --> 00:13:13,224 which is unusual for benny, and he said, "something has 340 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:15,560 he said, "something has happened to becki, and you need 341 00:13:15,562 --> 00:13:17,729 happened to becki, and you need to come to the police station 342 00:13:17,731 --> 00:13:19,964 to come to the police station right now." we got there to the 343 00:13:19,966 --> 00:13:21,432 right now." we got there to the police station. Charlie, who 344 00:13:21,434 --> 00:13:26,137 police station. Charlie, who was sarah's husband at the time, 345 00:13:26,139 --> 00:13:33,144 was sarah's husband at the time, grabbed me and sat me down, and 346 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:35,780 grabbed me and sat me down, and told me that becki was gone. 347 00:13:35,782 --> 00:13:37,448 Told me that becki was gone. Before I even had a chance to 348 00:13:37,450 --> 00:13:40,718 before I even had a chance to react at that particular time, 349 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,687 react at that particular time, justin comes running in the 350 00:13:42,689 --> 00:13:44,355 justin comes running in the room and grabs me by the head 351 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:46,124 room and grabs me by the head and said, "oh, my god, oh, my 352 00:13:46,126 --> 00:13:47,992 and said, "oh, my god, oh, my god, becki's dead, " and 353 00:13:47,994 --> 00:13:52,530 god, becki's dead, " and started crying. I immediately, 354 00:13:52,532 --> 00:13:53,565 started crying. I immediately, instead of crying, got angry 355 00:13:53,567 --> 00:13:55,500 instead of crying, got angry because I knew that he had done 356 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:59,938 because I knew that he had done something. I wasn't surprised 357 00:13:59,940 --> 00:14:02,440 something. I wasn't surprised when becki told me that she was 358 00:14:02,442 --> 00:14:04,442 when becki told me that she was seeing justin. I thought he was 359 00:14:04,444 --> 00:14:06,411 seeing justin. I thought he was a little feminine then, but he 360 00:14:06,413 --> 00:14:08,046 a little feminine then, but he seemed to be a really nice boy, 361 00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:13,451 seemed to be a really nice boy, and they hit it off pretty 362 00:14:13,453 --> 00:14:15,220 and they hit it off pretty good. Justin would listen to 363 00:14:15,222 --> 00:14:18,489 good. Justin would listen to becki, and he knew exactly what 364 00:14:18,491 --> 00:14:24,896 becki, and he knew exactly what to say to her. He was a more 365 00:14:24,898 --> 00:14:28,600 to say to her. He was a more softer person, more gentle. 366 00:14:28,602 --> 00:14:32,003 Softer person, more gentle. When becki found out she was 367 00:14:32,005 --> 00:14:34,505 when becki found out she was pregnant, she had a good 368 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:36,107 pregnant, she had a good support system on both sides. 369 00:14:36,109 --> 00:14:38,142 Support system on both sides. Both becki and justin wanted to 370 00:14:38,144 --> 00:14:40,311 both becki and justin wanted to go to cosmetology school. 371 00:14:40,313 --> 00:14:41,779 Go to cosmetology school. Justin's mom, debra, took care 372 00:14:41,781 --> 00:14:44,616 justin's mom, debra, took care of cobey while they went to 373 00:14:44,618 --> 00:14:47,085 of cobey while they went to school. And they were getting 374 00:14:47,087 --> 00:14:49,153 school. And they were getting along really good living at 375 00:14:49,155 --> 00:14:50,889 along really good living at debra's house. When they were 376 00:14:50,891 --> 00:14:52,857 debra's house. When they were going to school, justin started 377 00:14:52,859 --> 00:14:55,560 going to school, justin started to drink a little bit more. I 378 00:14:55,562 --> 00:14:59,898 to drink a little bit more. I don't exactly know why. Maybe 379 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:06,237 don't exactly know why. Maybe he was more scared of actually 380 00:15:06,239 --> 00:15:11,476 he was more scared of actually raising cobey and providing for 381 00:15:11,478 --> 00:15:19,217 raising cobey and providing for cobey as a father. He was 382 00:15:19,219 --> 00:15:21,185 cobey as a father. He was falling down on his duties as a 383 00:15:21,187 --> 00:15:23,221 falling down on his duties as a provider for the family. And a 384 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:25,590 provider for the family. And a lot of times, he missed school 385 00:15:25,592 --> 00:15:28,493 lot of times, he missed school because he over-drank the night 386 00:15:28,495 --> 00:15:30,728 because he over-drank the night before. It was causing a rift 387 00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:32,463 before. It was causing a rift in their relationship. She 388 00:15:32,465 --> 00:15:35,033 in their relationship. She didn't want to live in that 389 00:15:35,035 --> 00:15:37,268 didn't want to live in that house forever. She wanted her 390 00:15:37,270 --> 00:15:39,270 house forever. She wanted her own house, just like every 391 00:15:39,272 --> 00:15:42,273 own house, just like every person does. Becki was hoping 392 00:15:42,275 --> 00:15:45,510 person does. Becki was hoping that once they had saved up 393 00:15:45,512 --> 00:15:47,078 that once they had saved up enough money, they could get a 394 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,980 enough money, they could get a place of their own and they 395 00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:51,015 place of their own and they could actually make a go of 396 00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:54,385 could actually make a go of being a happy family. Well, 397 00:15:54,387 --> 00:15:56,821 being a happy family. Well, after cobey was about 3 1/2 398 00:15:56,823 --> 00:15:59,691 after cobey was about 3 1/2 years old, becki became 399 00:15:59,693 --> 00:16:00,658 years old, becki became pregnant again. She had asked 400 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:02,026 pregnant again. She had asked justin to stop drinking because 401 00:16:02,028 --> 00:16:03,795 justin to stop drinking because she wanted to have another 402 00:16:03,797 --> 00:16:05,964 she wanted to have another child. So he did for a while, 403 00:16:05,966 --> 00:16:09,033 child. So he did for a while, and then after she became 404 00:16:09,035 --> 00:16:11,069 and then after she became pregnant again, he started 405 00:16:11,071 --> 00:16:13,171 pregnant again, he started drinking again. When justin 406 00:16:13,173 --> 00:16:16,374 drinking again. When justin drank, he became a totally 407 00:16:16,376 --> 00:16:24,716 drank, he became a totally different person. He became 408 00:16:24,718 --> 00:16:28,052 different person. He became angry at everything and 409 00:16:28,054 --> 00:16:31,389 angry at everything and everyone. I begged her to 410 00:16:31,391 --> 00:16:33,424 everyone. I begged her to please come and stay with us, 411 00:16:33,426 --> 00:16:34,759 please come and stay with us, but she wouldn't do it. Becki 412 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:36,494 but she wouldn't do it. Becki did have some hope that they 413 00:16:36,496 --> 00:16:37,428 did have some hope that they would be able to be together 414 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:38,262 would be able to be together and make a happy family. But in 415 00:16:38,264 --> 00:16:38,997 and make a happy family. But in my heart, I didn't see that 416 00:16:38,999 --> 00:16:40,598 my heart, I didn't see that happening. So she started 417 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,100 happening. So she started taking some of her check and 418 00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:44,135 taking some of her check and hiding it so that she would 419 00:16:44,137 --> 00:16:45,903 hiding it so that she would have some money, eventually, to 420 00:16:45,905 --> 00:16:47,972 have some money, eventually, to get an apartment or a down 421 00:16:47,974 --> 00:16:49,941 get an apartment or a down payment on a home. She was 422 00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:51,509 payment on a home. She was trying to move out of the house 423 00:16:51,511 --> 00:16:54,178 trying to move out of the house with justin and get out from 424 00:16:54,180 --> 00:16:55,680 with justin and get out from underneath the chaos that was 425 00:16:55,682 --> 00:17:00,184 underneath the chaos that was in the dillard home. Whenever 426 00:17:00,186 --> 00:17:02,720 in the dillard home. Whenever someone is murdered, you 427 00:17:02,722 --> 00:17:04,255 someone is murdered, you usually look to the spouse 428 00:17:04,257 --> 00:17:08,593 usually look to the spouse first. On that particular night, 429 00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,963 first. On that particular night, justin did show up at sarah's 430 00:17:11,965 --> 00:17:14,932 justin did show up at sarah's party at a particular time, and 431 00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:19,337 party at a particular time, and he was yelling and crying out, 432 00:17:19,339 --> 00:17:21,205 he was yelling and crying out, "where's becki? Where's becki? 433 00:17:21,207 --> 00:17:24,208 "where's becki? Where's becki? " and they didn't know what was 434 00:17:24,210 --> 00:17:29,447 " and they didn't know what was going on. He was crying, "oh, 435 00:17:29,449 --> 00:17:34,419 going on. He was crying, "oh, she's in a ditch somewhere, 436 00:17:34,421 --> 00:17:36,487 she's in a ditch somewhere, dead." my whole family knew 437 00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:39,590 dead." my whole family knew that justin was involved in 438 00:17:39,592 --> 00:17:42,026 that justin was involved in some way. They just had to 439 00:17:42,028 --> 00:17:44,762 some way. They just had to prove it. Whoever was in the 440 00:17:44,764 --> 00:17:47,765 prove it. Whoever was in the truck following becki had 441 00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:51,803 truck following becki had stopped her on the highway. 442 00:17:51,805 --> 00:17:57,375 Stopped her on the highway. There was a vehicle that came 443 00:17:57,377 --> 00:18:01,479 there was a vehicle that came from the opposite direction, 444 00:18:01,481 --> 00:18:02,880 from the opposite direction, and they saw both vehicles 445 00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:03,414 and they saw both vehicles stopped there. 446 00:18:03,416 --> 00:18:07,285 Stopped there. >> there's two cars. A s.U.V. 447 00:18:07,287 --> 00:18:10,088 >> there's two cars. A s.U.V. And, uh, I think a chevy 448 00:18:10,090 --> 00:18:12,490 and, uh, I think a chevy pickup. It was parked on the 449 00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:13,091 pickup. It was parked on the side of the road. 450 00:18:13,093 --> 00:18:23,868 Side of the road. >> it was a big break in the 451 00:18:23,870 --> 00:18:25,169 >> it was a big break in the case for the detectives, 452 00:18:25,171 --> 00:18:27,805 case for the detectives, because had not someone 453 00:18:27,807 --> 00:18:30,141 because had not someone remembered seeing that truck on 454 00:18:30,143 --> 00:18:31,509 remembered seeing that truck on the road, they probably never 455 00:18:31,511 --> 00:18:33,511 the road, they probably never would have been pointed in the 456 00:18:33,513 --> 00:18:34,078 would have been pointed in the right direction. 457 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,984 Right direction. >> my name is warren wiedemann 458 00:18:48,594 --> 00:18:50,061 >> my name is warren wiedemann with the missouri state highway 459 00:18:50,063 --> 00:18:51,028 with the missouri state highway patrol. I'm a criminal 460 00:18:51,030 --> 00:18:52,163 patrol. I'm a criminal investigator, and I assisted in 461 00:18:52,165 --> 00:18:55,933 investigator, and I assisted in the investigation in the 462 00:18:55,935 --> 00:18:57,335 the investigation in the homicide of becki dillard. When 463 00:18:57,337 --> 00:18:58,636 homicide of becki dillard. When I advised justin of his miranda 464 00:18:58,638 --> 00:18:59,871 I advised justin of his miranda rights, he became extremely 465 00:18:59,873 --> 00:19:01,506 rights, he became extremely emotional, to the point of 466 00:19:01,508 --> 00:19:03,141 emotional, to the point of almost being hysterical. It was 467 00:19:03,143 --> 00:19:07,845 almost being hysterical. It was obvious that he was under the 468 00:19:07,847 --> 00:19:08,613 obvious that he was under the influence of something. We 469 00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:13,951 influence of something. We weren't really getting a whole 470 00:19:13,953 --> 00:19:14,752 weren't really getting a whole lot out of him. He was leaning 471 00:19:14,754 --> 00:19:15,419 lot out of him. He was leaning forward and just rocking side 472 00:19:15,421 --> 00:19:16,120 forward and just rocking side to side and crying. He just 473 00:19:16,122 --> 00:19:19,290 to side and crying. He just didn't seem that concerned to 474 00:19:19,292 --> 00:19:20,158 didn't seem that concerned to help us. He was more worried 475 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,392 help us. He was more worried about his own emotions than he 476 00:19:21,394 --> 00:19:23,294 about his own emotions than he was trying to figure out what 477 00:19:23,296 --> 00:19:24,262 was trying to figure out what happened to his wife. We didn't 478 00:19:24,264 --> 00:19:27,298 happened to his wife. We didn't have enough to take him into 479 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:28,099 have enough to take him into custody, but we still felt it 480 00:19:28,101 --> 00:19:28,733 custody, but we still felt it was very possible that he was 481 00:19:28,735 --> 00:19:29,267 was very possible that he was involved in this death. 482 00:19:29,269 --> 00:19:31,202 Involved in this death. Lieutenant gary lambe and I 483 00:19:31,204 --> 00:19:31,969 lieutenant gary lambe and I began to interview numerous 484 00:19:31,971 --> 00:19:50,121 began to interview numerous people that had been at the 485 00:19:50,123 --> 00:19:50,922 people that had been at the party. Dean ellis'name came up 486 00:19:50,924 --> 00:19:51,556 party. Dean ellis'name came up quite a bit. We found out the 487 00:19:51,558 --> 00:19:59,230 quite a bit. We found out the dean ellis was actually 488 00:19:59,232 --> 00:19:59,997 dean ellis was actually justin's father, who had had 489 00:19:59,999 --> 00:20:02,733 justin's father, who had had nothing to do with justin for 490 00:20:02,735 --> 00:20:03,534 nothing to do with justin for about 15 years. And it was my 491 00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:04,168 about 15 years. And it was my understanding that dean ellis 492 00:20:04,170 --> 00:20:04,835 understanding that dean ellis was having some heart problems 493 00:20:04,837 --> 00:20:05,436 was having some heart problems and had decided he wanted to 494 00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:12,343 and had decided he wanted to basically reconnect with his 495 00:20:12,345 --> 00:20:13,177 basically reconnect with his family and get to know his son. 496 00:20:13,179 --> 00:20:13,778 Family and get to know his son. So dean ellis, just a short 497 00:20:13,780 --> 00:20:17,248 so dean ellis, just a short time before this, had actually 498 00:20:17,250 --> 00:20:18,082 time before this, had actually moved back into debra dillard's 499 00:20:18,084 --> 00:20:18,883 moved back into debra dillard's residence with debra dillard 500 00:20:18,885 --> 00:20:19,717 residence with debra dillard and her current boyfriend, and 501 00:20:19,719 --> 00:20:20,718 and her current boyfriend, and becki dillard and her husband, 502 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,389 becki dillard and her husband, justin. So it was unusual 503 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:26,190 justin. So it was unusual having your father living with 504 00:20:26,192 --> 00:20:26,824 having your father living with your mother and your mother's 505 00:20:26,826 --> 00:20:27,725 your mother and your mother's boyfriend, all in the same 506 00:20:27,727 --> 00:20:28,526 boyfriend, all in the same residence. We'd gone back to 507 00:20:28,528 --> 00:20:31,062 residence. We'd gone back to the residence to photograph 508 00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:37,101 the residence to photograph vehicles, to check for any 509 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:37,902 vehicles, to check for any firearms and other weapons at 510 00:20:37,904 --> 00:20:42,139 firearms and other weapons at the residence. And then when 511 00:20:42,141 --> 00:20:43,174 the residence. And then when dean was there, as he came out, 512 00:20:43,176 --> 00:20:44,475 dean was there, as he came out, you know, I asked if he'd be 513 00:20:44,477 --> 00:20:46,544 you know, I asked if he'd be willing to talk to me. He was 514 00:20:46,546 --> 00:20:52,683 willing to talk to me. He was an older man, did not seem very 515 00:20:52,685 --> 00:20:53,451 an older man, did not seem very healthy, did not get around 516 00:20:53,453 --> 00:20:54,018 healthy, did not get around real well. It just did not 517 00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:57,588 real well. It just did not appear that he was involved. He 518 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:58,322 appear that he was involved. He didn't have the ability to 519 00:20:58,324 --> 00:20:59,690 didn't have the ability to leave the residence. He was 520 00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:01,025 leave the residence. He was pretty open with discussing, 521 00:21:01,027 --> 00:21:01,892 pretty open with discussing, you know, the coming and goings 522 00:21:01,894 --> 00:21:02,793 you know, the coming and goings at the house, of becki getting 523 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:06,464 at the house, of becki getting home from work, of debra 524 00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:07,465 home from work, of debra dillard going to run errands, 525 00:21:07,467 --> 00:21:08,432 dillard going to run errands, about what time people got 526 00:21:08,434 --> 00:21:09,600 about what time people got home. It did kind of stand out 527 00:21:09,602 --> 00:21:10,601 home. It did kind of stand out to me when he told me that 528 00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:11,535 to me when he told me that billy eastep had been sleeping 529 00:21:11,537 --> 00:21:13,537 billy eastep had been sleeping all evening through all of 530 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:14,605 all evening through all of this. Billy eastep's name had 531 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:16,607 this. Billy eastep's name had come up during the 532 00:21:16,609 --> 00:21:19,143 come up during the investigation. That was deborah 533 00:21:19,145 --> 00:21:20,478 investigation. That was deborah dillard's boyfriend and lived 534 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,679 dillard's boyfriend and lived with her. I specifically asked 535 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:25,583 with her. I specifically asked him, "how do you know that he 536 00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:26,751 him, "how do you know that he was sleeping? " and that's when 537 00:21:26,753 --> 00:21:27,685 was sleeping? " and that's when he pointed out that that's what 538 00:21:27,687 --> 00:21:28,519 he pointed out that that's what debra dillard had told him to 539 00:21:28,521 --> 00:21:29,420 debra dillard had told him to tell us. Now, it seemed unusual 540 00:21:29,422 --> 00:21:32,356 tell us. Now, it seemed unusual that debra dillard is providing 541 00:21:32,358 --> 00:21:33,157 that debra dillard is providing alibis for billy eastep. That 542 00:21:33,159 --> 00:21:34,325 alibis for billy eastep. That was definitely a red flag. Our 543 00:21:34,327 --> 00:21:35,393 was definitely a red flag. Our initial interview with billy, 544 00:21:35,395 --> 00:21:37,128 initial interview with billy, basically, we were just trying 545 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:38,229 basically, we were just trying to kind of go through the 546 00:21:38,231 --> 00:21:40,998 to kind of go through the timeline of the previous day. 547 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,501 Timeline of the previous day. It seemed like he was trying to 548 00:21:43,503 --> 00:21:48,506 it seemed like he was trying to distance himself from 549 00:21:48,508 --> 00:21:52,777 distance himself from everything and just say he was 550 00:21:52,779 --> 00:22:00,284 everything and just say he was asleep and knew nothing. I felt 551 00:22:00,286 --> 00:22:01,118 asleep and knew nothing. I felt like he was holding information 552 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:01,852 like he was holding information back. Between debra dillard, 553 00:22:01,854 --> 00:22:05,856 back. Between debra dillard, justin dillard, and billy 554 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:07,358 justin dillard, and billy eastep, we're really narrowing 555 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,660 eastep, we're really narrowing it down, but we're not sure if 556 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:12,263 it down, but we're not sure if it's all of them, one of them. 557 00:22:12,265 --> 00:22:13,798 It's all of them, one of them. So we're still looking for more 558 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:18,803 so we're still looking for more physical evidence. About five 559 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:24,175 physical evidence. About five days later, a witness comes 560 00:22:24,177 --> 00:22:28,379 days later, a witness comes forward. And that was a big 561 00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:30,648 forward. And that was a big turning point in this 562 00:22:30,650 --> 00:22:31,582 turning point in this investigation. And that was 563 00:22:31,584 --> 00:22:32,383 investigation. And that was tyler bean. Tyler bean was 564 00:22:32,385 --> 00:22:33,050 tyler bean. Tyler bean was driving on highway ff that 565 00:22:33,052 --> 00:22:33,984 driving on highway ff that night with his girlfriend. 566 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:36,153 Night with his girlfriend. There was a vehicle sitting 567 00:22:36,155 --> 00:22:37,788 there was a vehicle sitting facing northbound with the 568 00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:38,889 facing northbound with the headlights on. And when he went 569 00:22:38,891 --> 00:22:41,459 headlights on. And when he went by, tyler described that as 570 00:22:41,461 --> 00:22:45,830 by, tyler described that as this black ford explorer. And 571 00:22:45,832 --> 00:22:46,897 this black ford explorer. And he said behind it was a 572 00:22:46,899 --> 00:22:47,498 he said behind it was a chevrolet pickup. 573 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:52,303 Chevrolet pickup. >> um, can you describe that 574 00:22:52,305 --> 00:22:52,970 >> um, can you describe that truck for me again? 575 00:22:52,972 --> 00:22:57,641 Truck for me again? >> um, I know it was a 576 00:22:57,643 --> 00:22:59,844 >> um, I know it was a dark-colored chevy pickup. It 577 00:22:59,846 --> 00:23:01,245 dark-colored chevy pickup. It had a light-colored mismatched 578 00:23:01,247 --> 00:23:02,947 had a light-colored mismatched body part on the driver's side 579 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:03,914 body part on the driver's side of it. Um, it was probably late 580 00:23:03,916 --> 00:23:04,615 of it. Um, it was probably late '90s, early 2000s model. 581 00:23:04,617 --> 00:23:07,284 '90s, early 2000s model. >> okay, uh, when you say 582 00:23:07,286 --> 00:23:08,386 >> okay, uh, when you say light-colored, what color would 583 00:23:08,388 --> 00:23:09,153 light-colored, what color would you say the body part was? 584 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,154 You say the body part was? >> I'd say more like white. 585 00:23:10,156 --> 00:23:12,690 >> I'd say more like white. >> that was an absolutely huge 586 00:23:12,692 --> 00:23:13,691 >> that was an absolutely huge moment. Not only that somebody 587 00:23:13,693 --> 00:23:16,494 moment. Not only that somebody had drove by and saw this, but 588 00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:17,928 had drove by and saw this, but somebody who knew vehicles well 589 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:19,063 somebody who knew vehicles well and could not only just say 590 00:23:19,065 --> 00:23:20,398 and could not only just say that he saw two vehicles -- he 591 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,999 that he saw two vehicles -- he described them and was able to 592 00:23:22,001 --> 00:23:23,567 described them and was able to pick those vehicles out. He 593 00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:25,636 pick those vehicles out. He actually looked at photo 594 00:23:25,638 --> 00:23:27,972 actually looked at photo lineups of vehicles and picked 595 00:23:27,974 --> 00:23:29,273 lineups of vehicles and picked out the vehicle that becki 596 00:23:29,275 --> 00:23:30,341 out the vehicle that becki dillard was driving and billy 597 00:23:30,343 --> 00:23:32,710 dillard was driving and billy eastep's truck. We absolutely 598 00:23:32,712 --> 00:23:34,278 eastep's truck. We absolutely wanted to bring back billy for 599 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,980 wanted to bring back billy for an interview and basically 600 00:23:35,982 --> 00:23:38,249 an interview and basically either confirm through a 601 00:23:38,251 --> 00:23:39,950 either confirm through a polygraph that he was the one 602 00:23:39,952 --> 00:23:41,452 polygraph that he was the one that did this or to help clear 603 00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:43,287 that did this or to help clear him. The questions would be 604 00:23:43,289 --> 00:23:44,989 him. The questions would be very direct of whether he 605 00:23:44,991 --> 00:23:48,659 very direct of whether he caused the death of becki 606 00:23:48,661 --> 00:23:52,830 caused the death of becki dillard or whether he knew for 607 00:23:52,832 --> 00:23:57,701 dillard or whether he knew for sure who did cause that death. 608 00:23:57,703 --> 00:24:00,471 Sure who did cause that death. Billy eastep showed deception 609 00:24:00,473 --> 00:24:01,372 billy eastep showed deception was indicated during that 610 00:24:01,374 --> 00:24:07,611 was indicated during that examination. But in the 611 00:24:07,613 --> 00:24:08,712 examination. But in the post-test interview 612 00:24:08,714 --> 00:24:09,847 post-test interview interrogation, he did not admit 613 00:24:09,849 --> 00:24:10,848 interrogation, he did not admit to having shot becki or even 614 00:24:10,850 --> 00:24:12,483 to having shot becki or even being present when she was 615 00:24:12,485 --> 00:24:14,985 being present when she was shot. He stuck to his story and 616 00:24:14,987 --> 00:24:16,187 shot. He stuck to his story and continued to deny it until 617 00:24:16,189 --> 00:24:19,290 continued to deny it until eventually he wanted to leave, 618 00:24:19,292 --> 00:24:20,724 eventually he wanted to leave, and so he was allowed to leave. 619 00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:22,359 And so he was allowed to leave. We didn't have enough at that 620 00:24:22,361 --> 00:24:24,061 we didn't have enough at that point to charge him. His 621 00:24:24,063 --> 00:24:28,566 point to charge him. His girlfriend, debra dillard, is 622 00:24:28,568 --> 00:24:29,767 girlfriend, debra dillard, is requested, and she voluntarily 623 00:24:29,769 --> 00:24:31,702 requested, and she voluntarily comes to the highway patrol 624 00:24:31,704 --> 00:24:33,170 comes to the highway patrol headquarters. She is driven 625 00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:36,373 headquarters. She is driven there by billy eastep in his 626 00:24:36,375 --> 00:24:38,509 there by billy eastep in his vehicle with the white door. 627 00:24:38,511 --> 00:24:40,144 Vehicle with the white door. Debra dillard comes in for her 628 00:24:40,146 --> 00:24:45,449 debra dillard comes in for her polygraph. And she also fails. 629 00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,352 Polygraph. And she also fails. After somebody fails a 630 00:24:48,354 --> 00:24:50,721 after somebody fails a polygraph examination, in the 631 00:24:50,723 --> 00:24:53,257 polygraph examination, in the post-test interrogation, it's a 632 00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,226 post-test interrogation, it's a very direct accusation, because 633 00:24:55,228 --> 00:24:58,762 very direct accusation, because now you know that they either 634 00:24:58,764 --> 00:25:00,364 now you know that they either did it or they know for sure 635 00:25:00,366 --> 00:25:02,032 did it or they know for sure who did it. And so you go after 636 00:25:02,034 --> 00:25:04,368 who did it. And so you go after them. During the interrogation, 637 00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:06,904 them. During the interrogation, she admits that she has lied to 638 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,406 she admits that she has lied to us and that she knows who 639 00:25:09,408 --> 00:25:11,675 us and that she knows who killed becki dillard. And she's 640 00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:13,010 killed becki dillard. And she's saying that billy eastep is the 641 00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:15,145 saying that billy eastep is the one that did. She said he threw 642 00:25:15,147 --> 00:25:17,748 one that did. She said he threw the gun into a lake and that 643 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,385 the gun into a lake and that the gun is gone. So, of course, 644 00:25:21,387 --> 00:25:22,586 the gun is gone. So, of course, with billy eastep also being 645 00:25:22,588 --> 00:25:25,756 with billy eastep also being present, officers immediately 646 00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:27,558 present, officers immediately got a hold of him and began to 647 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,126 got a hold of him and began to talk to him, also. They're 648 00:25:29,128 --> 00:25:31,061 talk to him, also. They're letting him know that she is 649 00:25:31,063 --> 00:25:45,209 letting him know that she is telling the truth and she is 650 00:25:45,211 --> 00:25:46,010 telling the truth and she is blaming him and that he's the 651 00:25:46,012 --> 00:25:46,610 blaming him and that he's the one that did it. And at that 652 00:25:46,612 --> 00:25:47,745 one that did it. And at that point, he admits that he was 653 00:25:47,747 --> 00:25:48,512 point, he admits that he was there and he has lied to us. 654 00:25:48,514 --> 00:25:51,015 There and he has lied to us. 655 00:25:56,755 --> 00:25:58,055 >> my name is rizwan ahad, and I was the prosecuting attorney 656 00:25:58,057 --> 00:25:59,690 I was the prosecuting attorney in this case. I'd received a 657 00:25:59,692 --> 00:26:00,558 in this case. I'd received a phone call from law enforcement 658 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,825 phone call from law enforcement officers that they had asked 659 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:04,261 officers that they had asked billy eastep to come to the 660 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,462 billy eastep to come to the highway patrol to discuss his 661 00:26:05,464 --> 00:26:07,498 highway patrol to discuss his involvement. When I arrived, 662 00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:09,767 involvement. When I arrived, he'd been speaking to law 663 00:26:09,769 --> 00:26:11,902 he'd been speaking to law enforcement for probably about 664 00:26:11,904 --> 00:26:14,838 enforcement for probably about 30, 45 minutes. When billy 665 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:19,043 30, 45 minutes. When billy eastep was confronted with 666 00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:20,978 eastep was confronted with debra dillard's statement, I 667 00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:25,215 debra dillard's statement, I just remember the surprised 668 00:26:25,217 --> 00:26:26,016 just remember the surprised look on his face, almost like 669 00:26:26,018 --> 00:26:26,617 look on his face, almost like he knew he'd been caught. At 670 00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:29,286 he knew he'd been caught. At the time that billy eastep was 671 00:26:29,288 --> 00:26:30,054 the time that billy eastep was arrested, we knew that debra 672 00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:30,754 arrested, we knew that debra had knowledge of the murder, 673 00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,691 had knowledge of the murder, but we didn't know her 674 00:26:33,693 --> 00:26:37,161 but we didn't know her involvement. When he made that 675 00:26:37,163 --> 00:26:38,395 involvement. When he made that statement that he was present 676 00:26:38,397 --> 00:26:44,335 statement that he was present at the shooting, in my mind, 677 00:26:44,337 --> 00:26:45,135 at the shooting, in my mind, debra became a stronger person 678 00:26:45,137 --> 00:26:45,903 debra became a stronger person of interest. During the 679 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:52,810 of interest. During the investigation, we'd determined 680 00:26:52,812 --> 00:26:53,577 investigation, we'd determined that debra dillard and becki 681 00:26:53,579 --> 00:26:54,111 that debra dillard and becki dillard had a tumultuous 682 00:26:54,113 --> 00:26:54,878 dillard had a tumultuous relationship, that there was a 683 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,048 relationship, that there was a lot of animosity between the 684 00:26:58,050 --> 00:26:58,849 lot of animosity between the two of them. There were a lot 685 00:26:58,851 --> 00:26:59,850 two of them. There were a lot of disagreements -- mostly over 686 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:04,555 of disagreements -- mostly over justin, but there were other 687 00:27:04,557 --> 00:27:05,356 justin, but there were other things. We learned that becki 688 00:27:05,358 --> 00:27:11,228 things. We learned that becki may have been thinking about 689 00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:12,062 may have been thinking about leaving justin. And debra was 690 00:27:12,064 --> 00:27:17,001 leaving justin. And debra was very concerned that if becki 691 00:27:17,003 --> 00:27:17,835 very concerned that if becki were to take the children, that 692 00:27:17,837 --> 00:27:18,435 were to take the children, that she may not have any more 693 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:24,508 she may not have any more contact with them. Billy eastep, 694 00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,012 contact with them. Billy eastep, in his explanation, he stated 695 00:27:28,014 --> 00:27:29,480 in his explanation, he stated to us that debra dillard and 696 00:27:29,482 --> 00:27:33,384 to us that debra dillard and becki had an argument, that 697 00:27:33,386 --> 00:27:34,184 becki had an argument, that becki was wanting to go to the 698 00:27:34,186 --> 00:27:38,656 becki was wanting to go to the party and that debra wanted her 699 00:27:38,658 --> 00:27:39,423 party and that debra wanted her to stay so that justin could 700 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:40,391 to stay so that justin could get ready and go with them. But 701 00:27:40,393 --> 00:27:45,262 get ready and go with them. But becki had left. According to 702 00:27:45,264 --> 00:27:46,196 becki had left. According to billy eastep, he didn't know 703 00:27:46,198 --> 00:27:47,131 billy eastep, he didn't know exactly what was going on. 704 00:27:47,133 --> 00:27:52,703 Exactly what was going on. Debra told him to get into the 705 00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:53,537 debra told him to get into the vehicle, and they followed her. 706 00:27:53,539 --> 00:28:03,347 Vehicle, and they followed her. They caught up to her, at which 707 00:28:03,349 --> 00:28:04,048 they caught up to her, at which point, billy says, debra 708 00:28:04,050 --> 00:28:04,782 point, billy says, debra dillard started flashing her 709 00:28:04,784 --> 00:28:05,516 dillard started flashing her lights. Becki pulled over. 710 00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:10,254 Lights. Becki pulled over. >> she got out, and she said, 711 00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,055 >> she got out, and she said, "becki, come here. And becki 712 00:28:11,057 --> 00:28:15,459 "becki, come here. And becki started walking over there. 713 00:28:15,461 --> 00:28:16,260 Started walking over there. Stopped in front of the truck, 714 00:28:16,262 --> 00:28:19,630 stopped in front of the truck, and she said, "justin wants you 715 00:28:19,632 --> 00:28:21,098 and she said, "justin wants you to go back and go get him." and 716 00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,900 to go back and go get him." and when she turned around, deb 717 00:28:22,902 --> 00:28:23,434 when she turned around, deb went, "pow." 718 00:28:23,436 --> 00:28:33,944 went, "pow." >> at that point, becki went 719 00:28:33,946 --> 00:28:35,379 >> at that point, becki went down. And billy saw debra walk 720 00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:39,817 down. And billy saw debra walk up to becki and shoot her a 721 00:28:39,819 --> 00:28:40,317 up to becki and shoot her a second time. 722 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:44,855 Second time. >> then she got back in the 723 00:28:44,857 --> 00:28:45,723 >> then she got back in the truck, and I looked at her and 724 00:28:45,725 --> 00:28:50,961 truck, and I looked at her and I said, "I -- I can't believe 725 00:28:50,963 --> 00:28:51,795 I said, "I -- I can't believe you did it. I can't believe you 726 00:28:51,797 --> 00:28:52,196 you did it. I can't believe you really did it." 727 00:28:52,198 --> 00:28:59,903 really did it." >> it would have been enough to 728 00:28:59,905 --> 00:29:03,173 >> it would have been enough to charge her, but it wouldn't 729 00:29:03,175 --> 00:29:04,141 charge her, but it wouldn't have been enough, I believe, at 730 00:29:04,143 --> 00:29:07,711 have been enough, I believe, at that point, to take her to 731 00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:08,545 that point, to take her to trial and convict her. We found 732 00:29:08,547 --> 00:29:09,580 trial and convict her. We found more evidence later on. What 733 00:29:09,582 --> 00:29:22,092 more evidence later on. What happened was, the longer billy 734 00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:22,893 happened was, the longer billy stayed in jail, the more debra 735 00:29:22,895 --> 00:29:23,460 stayed in jail, the more debra was becoming a little more 736 00:29:23,462 --> 00:29:24,328 was becoming a little more guilt-ridden. She started 737 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:25,395 guilt-ridden. She started discussing with individuals 738 00:29:25,397 --> 00:29:33,570 discussing with individuals that billy was being railroaded, 739 00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:34,238 that billy was being railroaded, that he had nothing to do with 740 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,273 that he had nothing to do with it. We received information 741 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:36,907 it. We received information that debra dillard had written 742 00:29:36,909 --> 00:29:37,508 that debra dillard had written a several-page letter. Law 743 00:29:37,510 --> 00:29:43,413 a several-page letter. Law enforcement officers then went 744 00:29:43,415 --> 00:29:44,081 enforcement officers then went to debra dillard's house, where 745 00:29:44,083 --> 00:29:45,015 to debra dillard's house, where they discovered she was laying 746 00:29:45,017 --> 00:29:48,252 they discovered she was laying in bed with a gun next to her, 747 00:29:48,254 --> 00:29:49,019 in bed with a gun next to her, and this letter that she had 748 00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:50,220 and this letter that she had written. She's confessed in 749 00:29:50,222 --> 00:29:56,326 written. She's confessed in that letter that she was the 750 00:29:56,328 --> 00:29:57,161 that letter that she was the one who shot becki dillard that 751 00:29:57,163 --> 00:29:57,694 one who shot becki dillard that night on that highway. 752 00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:00,631 Night on that highway. According to the officers, she 753 00:30:00,633 --> 00:30:01,365 according to the officers, she was very distraught. They 754 00:30:01,367 --> 00:30:02,199 was very distraught. They stated to me she looked 755 00:30:02,201 --> 00:30:03,133 stated to me she looked suicidal at that point. The 756 00:30:03,135 --> 00:30:04,401 suicidal at that point. The sheriff himself, I believe, 757 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:09,640 sheriff himself, I believe, removed the gun from her. It 758 00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:10,140 removed the gun from her. It was loaded. 759 00:30:10,142 --> 00:30:10,974 Was loaded. >> are you're afraid of sitting 760 00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:11,775 >> are you're afraid of sitting in jail for what you've done? 761 00:30:11,777 --> 00:30:24,822 In jail for what you've done? >> no. 762 00:30:24,824 --> 00:30:25,522 >> no. >> no, I'm serious. 763 00:30:25,524 --> 00:30:26,156 >> no, I'm serious. >> I haven't done anything. 764 00:30:26,158 --> 00:30:29,593 >> I haven't done anything. >> she said that she cared 765 00:30:29,595 --> 00:30:30,394 >> she said that she cared about billy so much that she 766 00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:30,961 about billy so much that she figured that she was gonna 767 00:30:30,963 --> 00:30:31,895 figured that she was gonna write this letter admitting to 768 00:30:31,897 --> 00:30:32,763 write this letter admitting to this, and then killing herself 769 00:30:32,765 --> 00:30:33,931 this, and then killing herself so that billy could be 770 00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:34,398 so that billy could be released. 771 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,101 Released. >> that's my story that I made 772 00:30:38,103 --> 00:30:38,535 >> that's my story that I made up to get him out. 773 00:30:38,537 --> 00:30:41,672 Up to get him out. >> she then said that she 774 00:30:41,674 --> 00:30:42,506 >> she then said that she decided that she wasn't going 775 00:30:42,508 --> 00:30:43,507 decided that she wasn't going to do it, but it was too late 776 00:30:43,509 --> 00:30:44,274 to do it, but it was too late because she had already sent 777 00:30:44,276 --> 00:30:44,842 because she had already sent out these letters. 778 00:30:44,844 --> 00:30:49,246 Out these letters. >> I gotta have you tell me the 779 00:30:49,248 --> 00:30:49,880 >> I gotta have you tell me the absolute truth today. I am so 780 00:30:49,882 --> 00:30:53,083 absolute truth today. I am so sick of all the drama and the 781 00:30:53,085 --> 00:30:53,851 sick of all the drama and the bullcrap, man, I could -- I 782 00:30:53,853 --> 00:30:54,484 bullcrap, man, I could -- I could flush it all away. 783 00:30:54,486 --> 00:30:57,120 Could flush it all away. >> you don't, because I want to 784 00:30:57,122 --> 00:30:57,921 >> you don't, because I want to know who killed becki. And I'm 785 00:30:57,923 --> 00:30:58,255 know who killed becki. And I'm telling you. 786 00:30:58,257 --> 00:31:01,091 Telling you. >> at that point, we weren't 787 00:31:01,093 --> 00:31:02,159 >> at that point, we weren't 100 percent sure she was 788 00:31:02,161 --> 00:31:02,960 100 percent sure she was confessing to the crime or she 789 00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:05,128 confessing to the crime or she was trying to get billy out of 790 00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:05,495 was trying to get billy out of it. 791 00:31:05,497 --> 00:31:07,030 It. >> I just want to believe with 792 00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:07,865 >> I just want to believe with everything that I am that billy 793 00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:08,232 everything that I am that billy didn't do it. 794 00:31:08,234 --> 00:31:11,034 Didn't do it. >> we only have one shot to 795 00:31:11,036 --> 00:31:11,668 >> we only have one shot to convict a person. Otherwise, 796 00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,504 convict a person. Otherwise, double jeopardy attaches and we 797 00:31:14,506 --> 00:31:15,305 double jeopardy attaches and we would not be able to try her 798 00:31:15,307 --> 00:31:15,706 would not be able to try her again. 799 00:31:15,708 --> 00:31:18,208 Again. >> you realize how bad this 800 00:31:18,210 --> 00:31:18,575 >> you realize how bad this looks, deb? 801 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:19,076 Looks, deb? >> I'll take my break. 802 00:31:19,078 --> 00:31:22,813 >> I'll take my break. >> a lot of cases turn on just 803 00:31:22,815 --> 00:31:23,447 >> a lot of cases turn on just luck. And that's what happened 804 00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:24,114 luck. And that's what happened in this case. Now, west plains 805 00:31:24,116 --> 00:31:33,457 in this case. Now, west plains is a pretty small town, and one 806 00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:34,191 is a pretty small town, and one day, the sheriff of howell 807 00:31:34,193 --> 00:31:34,825 day, the sheriff of howell county, mike shannon, happened 808 00:31:34,827 --> 00:31:35,692 county, mike shannon, happened to be getting a cup of coffee 809 00:31:35,694 --> 00:31:36,526 to be getting a cup of coffee at the convenience store. The 810 00:31:36,528 --> 00:31:37,561 at the convenience store. The cashier made a statement to him 811 00:31:37,563 --> 00:31:47,237 cashier made a statement to him that debra dillard had once 812 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:47,971 that debra dillard had once stated to her that she was 813 00:31:47,973 --> 00:31:48,705 stated to her that she was going to kill becki dillard, 814 00:31:48,707 --> 00:31:54,444 going to kill becki dillard, but that she received a 815 00:31:54,446 --> 00:31:55,145 but that she received a reprieve because she was 816 00:31:55,147 --> 00:31:55,812 reprieve because she was pregnant with a child, and that 817 00:31:55,814 --> 00:31:56,446 pregnant with a child, and that she was gonna wait a year. And 818 00:31:56,448 --> 00:31:57,414 she was gonna wait a year. And oddly enough, almost to the day, 819 00:31:57,416 --> 00:31:58,382 oddly enough, almost to the day, a year later, becki dillard was 820 00:31:58,384 --> 00:32:04,521 a year later, becki dillard was murdered. When we received that 821 00:32:04,523 --> 00:32:05,155 murdered. When we received that information, we felt like we 822 00:32:05,157 --> 00:32:08,558 information, we felt like we had enough evidence to charge 823 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,226 had enough evidence to charge debra dillard with the murder 824 00:32:09,228 --> 00:32:09,660 debra dillard with the murder of becki dillard. 825 00:32:09,662 --> 00:32:14,464 Of becki dillard. 826 00:32:20,238 --> 00:32:21,571 >> I've dealt with other scenarios with in-laws and 827 00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:22,272 scenarios with in-laws and family members and everything, 828 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:23,040 family members and everything, but never nothing so violent, 829 00:32:23,042 --> 00:32:23,774 but never nothing so violent, so cold-blooded. They're just 830 00:32:23,776 --> 00:32:25,809 so cold-blooded. They're just acting like the concerned 831 00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:27,644 acting like the concerned grandparent and her boyfriend. 832 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:29,646 Grandparent and her boyfriend. And the whole time, they're the 833 00:32:29,648 --> 00:32:30,247 and the whole time, they're the ones that done it. 834 00:32:30,249 --> 00:32:34,551 Ones that done it. >> every day for 10 years, I 835 00:32:34,553 --> 00:32:36,787 >> every day for 10 years, I have gone over what happened. I 836 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:38,221 have gone over what happened. I don't feel that my mother had 837 00:32:38,223 --> 00:32:40,257 don't feel that my mother had anything to do with it, the way 838 00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:42,726 anything to do with it, the way that everybody is saying she 839 00:32:42,728 --> 00:32:43,093 that everybody is saying she did. 840 00:32:43,095 --> 00:32:45,595 Did. >> our theory behind the case 841 00:32:45,597 --> 00:32:46,697 >> our theory behind the case was that debra dillard just 842 00:32:46,699 --> 00:32:50,467 was that debra dillard just wanted becki out of the way. 843 00:32:50,469 --> 00:32:51,868 Wanted becki out of the way. She was making justin's life 844 00:32:51,870 --> 00:32:55,572 she was making justin's life miserable, that debra had had 845 00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:56,006 miserable, that debra had had enough. 846 00:32:56,008 --> 00:33:03,013 Enough. >> she wanted those children, 847 00:33:03,015 --> 00:33:04,581 >> she wanted those children, and the only way that she saw 848 00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:07,284 and the only way that she saw she was gonna keep them is by 849 00:33:07,286 --> 00:33:11,588 she was gonna keep them is by getting rid of becki. Because 850 00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:13,690 getting rid of becki. Because justin -- there's no way that 851 00:33:13,692 --> 00:33:17,160 justin -- there's no way that he would ever get custody with 852 00:33:17,162 --> 00:33:17,828 he would ever get custody with his alcohol problems. 853 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:22,165 His alcohol problems. >> becki is gonna get the 854 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:23,834 >> becki is gonna get the babies, she's gonna get child 855 00:33:23,836 --> 00:33:25,635 babies, she's gonna get child support, and then she's gonna 856 00:33:25,637 --> 00:33:26,303 support, and then she's gonna go on with her life. 857 00:33:26,305 --> 00:33:31,041 Go on with her life. >> debra knew that once those 858 00:33:31,043 --> 00:33:32,809 >> debra knew that once those children left, that becki's mom 859 00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:34,811 children left, that becki's mom and the rest of her family was 860 00:33:34,813 --> 00:33:37,481 and the rest of her family was not gonna let those children go 861 00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:37,881 not gonna let those children go back. 862 00:33:37,883 --> 00:33:38,448 Back. >> we believe that was the 863 00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:39,349 >> we believe that was the motivation that pushed her over 864 00:33:39,351 --> 00:33:40,684 motivation that pushed her over the edge. That night, becki had 865 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:41,585 the edge. That night, becki had angered justin, and we believe 866 00:33:41,587 --> 00:33:42,686 angered justin, and we believe debra had just had enough, and 867 00:33:42,688 --> 00:33:45,589 debra had just had enough, and that she was going to cure the 868 00:33:45,591 --> 00:33:46,023 that she was going to cure the problem. 869 00:33:46,025 --> 00:33:50,427 Problem. >> when I walked into the 870 00:33:50,429 --> 00:33:52,229 >> when I walked into the courtroom, debra dillard looked 871 00:33:52,231 --> 00:33:54,598 courtroom, debra dillard looked at me, but I tried to ignore 872 00:33:54,600 --> 00:34:00,737 at me, but I tried to ignore her as much as possible. I saw 873 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:01,438 her as much as possible. I saw the hatred in her eyes. 874 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:07,511 The hatred in her eyes. >> deb dillard felt like she 875 00:34:07,513 --> 00:34:08,845 >> deb dillard felt like she could control things, like she 876 00:34:08,847 --> 00:34:10,847 could control things, like she could make this happen and that 877 00:34:10,849 --> 00:34:11,615 could make this happen and that she could get away with it. 878 00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:15,552 She could get away with it. >> the defense focused on billy 879 00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:16,720 >> the defense focused on billy eastep, stating that billy was 880 00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:17,521 eastep, stating that billy was actually the one that did it. 881 00:34:17,523 --> 00:34:21,725 Actually the one that did it. >> she had to put the blame on 882 00:34:21,727 --> 00:34:22,726 >> she had to put the blame on someone. So she chose billy, to 883 00:34:22,728 --> 00:34:23,460 someone. So she chose billy, to put him as the scapegoat. 884 00:34:23,462 --> 00:34:25,662 Put him as the scapegoat. >> he knew that she had extra 885 00:34:25,664 --> 00:34:27,230 >> he knew that she had extra money because it was christmas. 886 00:34:27,232 --> 00:34:30,434 Money because it was christmas. He robbed her. And so she 887 00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:31,268 he robbed her. And so she wouldn't tell on him, he killed 888 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:33,103 wouldn't tell on him, he killed her and played it off like 889 00:34:33,105 --> 00:34:33,937 her and played it off like nothing had ever even happened. 890 00:34:33,939 --> 00:34:41,178 Nothing had ever even happened. >> we believed we had enough 891 00:34:41,180 --> 00:34:44,147 >> we believed we had enough evidence to prove debra dillard 892 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:44,981 evidence to prove debra dillard guilty beyond a reasonable 893 00:34:44,983 --> 00:34:46,983 guilty beyond a reasonable doubt without him. But we 894 00:34:46,985 --> 00:34:48,018 doubt without him. But we wanted him to testify. We found 895 00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:49,052 wanted him to testify. We found out when we arrived for trial, 896 00:34:49,054 --> 00:34:56,293 out when we arrived for trial, is that somebody had hit billy 897 00:34:56,295 --> 00:34:57,094 is that somebody had hit billy eastep, had given him a black 898 00:34:57,096 --> 00:34:58,662 eastep, had given him a black eye. And at that point, billy 899 00:34:58,664 --> 00:34:59,529 eye. And at that point, billy refused to testify. Debra 900 00:34:59,531 --> 00:35:00,931 refused to testify. Debra dillard also took the stand, 901 00:35:00,933 --> 00:35:01,932 dillard also took the stand, and she testified on her own 902 00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:03,066 and she testified on her own behalf. And she explained that 903 00:35:03,068 --> 00:35:04,568 behalf. And she explained that she and becki had a wonderful 904 00:35:04,570 --> 00:35:08,705 she and becki had a wonderful relationship, that she was a 905 00:35:08,707 --> 00:35:09,372 relationship, that she was a great daughter-in-law. 906 00:35:09,374 --> 00:35:11,608 Great daughter-in-law. >> she is my child. I love her. 907 00:35:11,610 --> 00:35:12,776 >> she is my child. I love her. She didn't even know what a 908 00:35:12,778 --> 00:35:13,844 she didn't even know what a mama was until she -- until she 909 00:35:13,846 --> 00:35:14,478 mama was until she -- until she moved into my home. 910 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,248 Moved into my home. >> she wanted me to be with 911 00:35:18,250 --> 00:35:19,883 >> she wanted me to be with becki. She liked becki. She 912 00:35:19,885 --> 00:35:24,054 becki. She liked becki. She still will say "my daughter" 913 00:35:24,056 --> 00:35:24,821 still will say "my daughter" when she talks about becki. 914 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:25,956 When she talks about becki. >> the entire focus of her 915 00:35:25,958 --> 00:35:30,494 >> the entire focus of her cross-examination was the 916 00:35:30,496 --> 00:35:32,362 cross-examination was the letter that she had written. I 917 00:35:32,364 --> 00:35:33,363 letter that she had written. I went line by line with her on 918 00:35:33,365 --> 00:35:34,998 went line by line with her on that and actually gave her the 919 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,199 that and actually gave her the opportunity to explain it away. 920 00:35:36,201 --> 00:35:38,201 Opportunity to explain it away. And she tried, and it was 921 00:35:38,203 --> 00:35:43,473 and she tried, and it was obvious to me that she was not 922 00:35:43,475 --> 00:35:44,040 obvious to me that she was not being truthful. 923 00:35:44,042 --> 00:35:46,743 Being truthful. >> her brother testified 924 00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,544 >> her brother testified against her and actually told 925 00:35:47,546 --> 00:35:51,081 against her and actually told the whole court that she had 926 00:35:51,083 --> 00:35:51,848 the whole court that she had conspired to do this a year 927 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:52,516 conspired to do this a year before when she found out becki 928 00:35:52,518 --> 00:35:53,183 before when she found out becki was pregnant, that she was 929 00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:55,218 was pregnant, that she was going to be the one that 930 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:56,486 going to be the one that murdered becki because she was 931 00:35:56,488 --> 00:35:57,053 murdered becki because she was bad for her son. 932 00:35:57,055 --> 00:36:04,027 Bad for her son. >> if she was gonna kill 933 00:36:04,029 --> 00:36:05,362 >> if she was gonna kill somebody, it wouldn't be her 934 00:36:05,364 --> 00:36:06,796 somebody, it wouldn't be her children. It wouldn't be me. It 935 00:36:06,798 --> 00:36:07,764 children. It wouldn't be me. It wouldn't be becki. It wouldn't 936 00:36:07,766 --> 00:36:09,032 wouldn't be becki. It wouldn't be our kids. It would be 937 00:36:09,034 --> 00:36:10,734 be our kids. It would be somebody that hurt us. My 938 00:36:10,736 --> 00:36:12,569 somebody that hurt us. My mother confessed because if she 939 00:36:12,571 --> 00:36:15,539 mother confessed because if she didn't, she was afraid that 940 00:36:15,541 --> 00:36:16,573 didn't, she was afraid that they would come after me and 941 00:36:16,575 --> 00:36:17,040 they would come after me and the kids. 942 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:30,754 The kids. >> whenever a case goes to the 943 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:32,055 >> whenever a case goes to the jury, I'm always concerned. Did 944 00:36:32,057 --> 00:36:33,957 jury, I'm always concerned. Did they believe the witnesses? Did 945 00:36:33,959 --> 00:36:36,927 they believe the witnesses? Did they believe debra's version? 946 00:36:36,929 --> 00:36:38,662 They believe debra's version? Every prosecutor has that 947 00:36:38,664 --> 00:36:41,231 every prosecutor has that concern because, of course, we 948 00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:42,766 concern because, of course, we have to prove a case beyond a 949 00:36:42,768 --> 00:36:45,135 have to prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt. The jury 950 00:36:45,137 --> 00:36:47,103 reasonable doubt. The jury found her guilty. She broke 951 00:36:47,105 --> 00:36:49,005 found her guilty. She broke down. I mean, she basically 952 00:36:49,007 --> 00:36:49,506 down. I mean, she basically fell apart. 953 00:36:49,508 --> 00:36:53,610 Fell apart. >> not until the jury came back 954 00:36:53,612 --> 00:36:54,678 >> not until the jury came back and said "guilty" did she show 955 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,912 and said "guilty" did she show any kind of emotion. That just 956 00:36:55,914 --> 00:36:58,215 any kind of emotion. That just tells me she was guilty, with 957 00:36:58,217 --> 00:36:58,882 tells me she was guilty, with no remorse whatsoever. 958 00:36:58,884 --> 00:37:03,353 No remorse whatsoever. >> she didn't kill anybody. She 959 00:37:03,355 --> 00:37:06,389 >> she didn't kill anybody. She wasn't there. She couldn't have 960 00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:10,994 wasn't there. She couldn't have been there. Whoever killed 961 00:37:10,996 --> 00:37:14,564 been there. Whoever killed becki, I don't think we will 962 00:37:14,566 --> 00:37:15,098 becki, I don't think we will ever know why. 963 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:19,202 Ever know why. >> in a first-degree murder 964 00:37:19,204 --> 00:37:20,604 >> in a first-degree murder case in missouri, the only 965 00:37:20,606 --> 00:37:22,305 case in missouri, the only sentence in this case would 966 00:37:22,307 --> 00:37:23,673 sentence in this case would have been life without parole. 967 00:37:23,675 --> 00:37:25,375 Have been life without parole. So when the verdict came down 968 00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:28,445 so when the verdict came down and the sentencing came down, I 969 00:37:28,447 --> 00:37:31,248 and the sentencing came down, I just felt like justice had been 970 00:37:31,250 --> 00:37:31,715 just felt like justice had been served. 971 00:37:31,717 --> 00:37:34,751 Served. >> we were never able to prove 972 00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:35,986 >> we were never able to prove that justin dillard had 973 00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:37,287 that justin dillard had anything to do with becki's 974 00:37:37,289 --> 00:37:40,023 anything to do with becki's death. There is suspicion. But 975 00:37:40,025 --> 00:37:41,958 death. There is suspicion. But even today, I couldn't tell you 976 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,627 even today, I couldn't tell you for sure who pulled the 977 00:37:43,629 --> 00:37:44,027 for sure who pulled the trigger. 978 00:37:44,029 --> 00:37:47,030 Trigger. >> becki's family has done a 979 00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:48,365 >> becki's family has done a very good job of making me look 980 00:37:48,367 --> 00:37:49,799 very good job of making me look bad. Feel like I have been 981 00:37:49,801 --> 00:37:51,601 bad. Feel like I have been victimized, very much so. I 982 00:37:51,603 --> 00:37:53,436 victimized, very much so. I lost my house, my kids, my wife, 983 00:37:53,438 --> 00:37:55,305 lost my house, my kids, my wife, my mom. 10 years, and it still 984 00:37:55,307 --> 00:37:58,341 my mom. 10 years, and it still hurts just as much. It's never 985 00:37:58,343 --> 00:37:58,808 hurts just as much. It's never gonna go away, ever. 986 00:37:58,810 --> 00:38:06,082 Gonna go away, ever. >> whatever justin did, debra 987 00:38:06,084 --> 00:38:07,384 >> whatever justin did, debra told him to do. Whatever billy 988 00:38:07,386 --> 00:38:08,852 told him to do. Whatever billy did, debra was in control of 989 00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:10,654 did, debra was in control of that. She was the more dominant 990 00:38:10,656 --> 00:38:12,355 that. She was the more dominant one in that home, and there was 991 00:38:12,357 --> 00:38:17,460 one in that home, and there was only one person in that home 992 00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,496 only one person in that home that wanted to defy her, and 993 00:38:19,498 --> 00:38:20,096 that wanted to defy her, and that was becki. 994 00:38:20,098 --> 00:38:26,603 That was becki. >> the wolf followed becki to 995 00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:30,640 >> the wolf followed becki to that roadside spot where she 996 00:38:30,642 --> 00:38:32,575 that roadside spot where she was killed. And so, we work 997 00:38:32,577 --> 00:38:34,678 was killed. And so, we work hard for every victim, but it's 998 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,746 hard for every victim, but it's especially difficult when you 999 00:38:36,748 --> 00:38:38,081 especially difficult when you see somebody that isn't doing 1000 00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:39,983 see somebody that isn't doing the wrong thing and bad things 1001 00:38:39,985 --> 00:38:40,617 the wrong thing and bad things come and find them. 1002 00:38:40,619 --> 00:38:44,487 Come and find them. >> my best friend, my wife, my 1003 00:38:44,489 --> 00:38:46,589 >> my best friend, my wife, my everything is in the ground. I 1004 00:38:46,591 --> 00:38:50,827 everything is in the ground. I pray every day that heaven's 1005 00:38:50,829 --> 00:38:51,561 pray every day that heaven's real, because that's where 1006 00:38:51,563 --> 00:38:52,295 real, because that's where she's at. And I know that all I 1007 00:38:52,297 --> 00:38:54,831 she's at. And I know that all I have to do is keep praying and 1008 00:38:54,833 --> 00:39:00,570 have to do is keep praying and I'll see her again. 1009 00:39:00,572 --> 00:39:23,393 I'll see her again. 97958

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