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Your emergency? >> oh, my god! I need an
>> oh, my god! I need an ambulance right away.
Ambulance right away. >> ma'am, calm down. What's
>> ma'am, calm down. What's going on there?
Going on there? >> I think my mother fell down
>> I think my mother fell down the stairs, and there's a knife
the stairs, and there's a knife in her hand and stabbed
in her hand and stabbed herself. Oh, my god! No!
Herself. Oh, my god! No! >> is she breathing? Ma'am?
>> is she breathing? Ma'am? >> it looked like she was
>> it looked like she was strangled, stabbed and beat in
strangled, stabbed and beat in the head. To me, that's
the head. To me, that's definite overkill.
Definite overkill. >> I see my mother laying
>> I see my mother laying there. I assume she was hurt.
There. I assume she was hurt. There was a knife sticking out.
There was a knife sticking out. I mean, I figured she fell.
I mean, I figured she fell. >> whenever someone of
>> whenever someone of considerable wealth is murdered,
considerable wealth is murdered, we look at who has a motive.
We look at who has a motive. >> they were already trying to
>> they were already trying to focus in on me. Where was I?
Focus in on me. Where was I? What was I doing? It was all
what was I doing? It was all about greed and money. Who has
about greed and money. Who has access to the house?
Access to the house? >> five unique perspectives.
>> five unique perspectives. Five points of view. One
five points of view. One murder.
Murder. >> I'm peggy nadell's daughter.
>> I'm peggy nadell's daughter. >> I was the lead detective.
>> I was the lead detective. >> I am a longtime friend. I
>> I am a longtime friend. I was a close friend of peggy
was a close friend of peggy nadell's.
Nadell's. >> I was a prosecutor.
>> I was a prosecutor. >> my name is susanne
>> my name is susanne nadell-scaccio, and I'm peggy
nadell-scaccio, and I'm peggy nadell's daughter. My
nadell's daughter. My relationship with peggy was
relationship with peggy was very close, as I would say,
very close, as I would say, most daughters'and
most daughters'and mothers'relationships are. My
mothers'relationships are. My mother and father made a very,
mother and father made a very, very handsome couple. They were
very handsome couple. They were striking. My mother used to
striking. My mother used to like to go to the city and to
like to go to the city and to the museum and to theater and
the museum and to theater and movies. They loved to travel.
Movies. They loved to travel. They traveled all over the
they traveled all over the world together. When I was 3,
world together. When I was 3, my brother jamie came into the
my brother jamie came into the world. I think my brother
world. I think my brother developed -- I-I-it's hard to
developed -- I-I-it's hard to put my finger on. I think he
put my finger on. I think he was a strange adolescent and he
was a strange adolescent and he developed into a strange adult.
Developed into a strange adult. His differences spoke volumes.
His differences spoke volumes. He was not social. He was very
he was not social. He was very cerebral. He went away to
cerebral. He went away to school. Moved to florida. Never
school. Moved to florida. Never came home to see my family.
Came home to see my family. Never came home to see my
never came home to see my parents. My father passed away
parents. My father passed away in 2003 very unexpectedly, and
in 2003 very unexpectedly, and it was devastating. I knew that
it was devastating. I knew that my mother would want me to be
my mother would want me to be strong. And I didn't want to
strong. And I didn't want to let her down. I wanted to be as
let her down. I wanted to be as strong as she was. My
strong as she was. My relationship with my mother was
relationship with my mother was very close. I would speak to
very close. I would speak to her probably two or three times
her probably two or three times a day. Not a day ever went by
a day. Not a day ever went by that I didn't either see,
that I didn't either see, physically see, visit, or have
physically see, visit, or have a phone conversation with my
a phone conversation with my mother. Saturday morning, I
mother. Saturday morning, I always call between, I don't
always call between, I don't know, 7:30, 8:00. 8:00, 8:30 on
know, 7:30, 8:00. 8:00, 8:30 on the weekends. I tried the house
the weekends. I tried the house phone. It was ringing, ringing,
phone. It was ringing, ringing, ringing. The answering machine
ringing. The answering machine never kicked on. I called the
never kicked on. I called the cell. Ringing, ringing, ringing,
cell. Ringing, ringing, ringing, ringing. I said, you know,
ringing. I said, you know, maybe she went out to the end
maybe she went out to the end of the driveway to get the
of the driveway to get the newspaper, to put something in
newspaper, to put something in the mailbox. I must've called a
the mailbox. I must've called a dozen times to each number, and
dozen times to each number, and she was not picking it up. So I
she was not picking it up. So I told my husband, bobby, "I'm
told my husband, bobby, "I'm going down there. My mother's
going down there. My mother's not answering the phone. I want
not answering the phone. I want to make sure everything's
to make sure everything's okay." I open the door, and I
okay." I open the door, and I realized the alarm wasn't on.
Realized the alarm wasn't on. I'm like, "gee, why wasn't the
I'm like, "gee, why wasn't the alarm on? " I walked in, and I
alarm on? " I walked in, and I found her. And I immediately
found her. And I immediately ran over. And the first thing I
ran over. And the first thing I noticed, she was bashed in the
noticed, she was bashed in the head and she was bleeding, and
head and she was bleeding, and I saw blood coming out around
I saw blood coming out around the rise in her nose and the
the rise in her nose and the side of her mouth. I said, "oh,
side of her mouth. I said, "oh, my god. She fell down the
my god. She fell down the stairs." once I got in and got
stairs." once I got in and got close, I saw it was more than a
close, I saw it was more than a fall down the stairs. The knife
fall down the stairs. The knife was stuck in peggy's chest.
Was stuck in peggy's chest. Then I'm like, "oh my god. She
then I'm like, "oh my god. She stabbed herself, " and I pull
stabbed herself, " and I pull the knife out. And I was gonna
the knife out. And I was gonna do cpr, and I checked for a
do cpr, and I checked for a pulse, and she was cold. I'm
pulse, and she was cold. I'm like -- and then I realized I
like -- and then I realized I -- you know, I mean, everybody
-- you know, I mean, everybody says, "what did you do that for?
Says, "what did you do that for? What are you thinking? " you
what are you thinking? " you just react. I mean, you don't
just react. I mean, you don't -- you don't think about what
-- you don't think about what you're doing. I ran outside. I
you're doing. I ran outside. I call 9-1-1. Oh, my god! Oh, my
call 9-1-1. Oh, my god! Oh, my god!
God! >> 911, what is the address of
>> 911, what is the address of your emergency.
Your emergency. >> I need an ambulance right
>> I need an ambulance right away! My mother's fallen! She
away! My mother's fallen! She fell. She had a knife in her
fell. She had a knife in her hand! Oh, my god!
Hand! Oh, my god! >> okay, is she breathing?
>> okay, is she breathing? >> no, I don't think so. Oh,
>> no, I don't think so. Oh, I'm afraid to go back in. Oh,
I'm afraid to go back in. Oh, my god. When the police showed
my god. When the police showed up, they kept me outside and
up, they kept me outside and they were asking me questions.
They were asking me questions. And at that point, they wanted
and at that point, they wanted to take both myself and my
to take both myself and my husband, bobby, down to the
husband, bobby, down to the police station, so I had no
police station, so I had no choice but to go. When I was in
choice but to go. When I was in the police station being
the police station being interviewed that Saturday, they
interviewed that Saturday, they came into me and said, "this
came into me and said, "this was not an accident. Your
was not an accident. Your mother did not fall. Your
mother did not fall. Your mother was murdered." I was
mother was murdered." I was shocked, and I could not
shocked, and I could not possibly conceive who would do
possibly conceive who would do this to my mother. And that's
this to my mother. And that's when they started asking
when they started asking questions. I told them that I
questions. I told them that I pulled the knife. I said I was
pulled the knife. I said I was trying to do cpr on her and
trying to do cpr on her and then I realized it was past
then I realized it was past that point. I also told them my
that point. I also told them my fingerprints will definitely be
fingerprints will definitely be on the knife as my dna will be
on the knife as my dna will be all over this house. I'm here
all over this house. I'm here two, three times a week. My
two, three times a week. My hair will be here. My
hair will be here. My fingerprints will be on every
fingerprints will be on every doorknob. I think at this point,
doorknob. I think at this point, they were already trying to
they were already trying to focus in on me being that they
focus in on me being that they had me in the police station
had me in the police station for several hours and were
for several hours and were asking me questions. I'm like,
asking me questions. I'm like, "why are you asking me that
"why are you asking me that question? "
question? " >> your mother had some assets.
>> your mother had some assets. >> my mother has a lot of
>> my mother has a lot of assets. Probably close to $3
assets. Probably close to $3 million. Do I need my lawyer?
Million. Do I need my lawyer? >> why?
>> why? >> I don't know. I'm just
>> I don't know. I'm just asking. You're asking me all
asking. You're asking me all these questions. The following
these questions. The following day, which was Sunday, the
day, which was Sunday, the detectives called me and asked
detectives called me and asked me to come down to the police
me to come down to the police station to talk to them. And at
station to talk to them. And at that point, I felt it was being
that point, I felt it was being directed at me, and I'm like,
directed at me, and I'm like, "wait a second. I don't want to
"wait a second. I don't want to talk to you now." and I hired
talk to you now." and I hired an attorney. They didn't like
an attorney. They didn't like that.
That.
>> my name is earl lorence. I was the lead detective working
was the lead detective working the murder of peggy nadell. The
the murder of peggy nadell. The morning of January 25, 2014, I
morning of January 25, 2014, I was the assigned detective
was the assigned detective working that weekend. So at
working that weekend. So at around 8:00 that morning, I was
around 8:00 that morning, I was at the local bagel store.
At the local bagel store. That's where I received the
that's where I received the phone call. And the desk
phone call. And the desk sergeant said that there was a
sergeant said that there was a death of an elderly woman
death of an elderly woman inside her residence and that
inside her residence and that she had slipped and fallen on a
she had slipped and fallen on a knife. The house is in an
knife. The house is in an upper-middle class neighborhood
upper-middle class neighborhood in valley cottage, new york,
in valley cottage, new york, very tidy, very well-kempt. The
very tidy, very well-kempt. The daughter of the victim, susanne
daughter of the victim, susanne nadell-scaccio, she was in a
nadell-scaccio, she was in a frantic state -- panicked,
frantic state -- panicked, yelling, screaming. Upon
yelling, screaming. Upon entering the home, the victim
entering the home, the victim was just inside the threshold
was just inside the threshold of the doorway at the base of
of the doorway at the base of the stairwell. You try not to
the stairwell. You try not to harden yourself too much to
harden yourself too much to each situation. So at this
each situation. So at this moment, it really did kind of
moment, it really did kind of hit -- hit home because this
hit -- hit home because this was an 80-year-old woman at
was an 80-year-old woman at home alone. My mother is 80
home alone. My mother is 80 years old. She lives alone.
Years old. She lives alone. That does have a personal
that does have a personal connection there. So you want
connection there. So you want to do all you can. My first
to do all you can. My first instinct, obviously, was that
instinct, obviously, was that it was a homicide. There was no
it was a homicide. There was no way she accidentally fell down
way she accidentally fell down the stairs and stabbed herself
the stairs and stabbed herself in the chest three times. We
in the chest three times. We saw the knife, which was very
saw the knife, which was very obvious, a few feet away from
obvious, a few feet away from the victim. She had obvious
the victim. She had obvious trauma to her head. She also
trauma to her head. She also had what appeared to be at
had what appeared to be at least one or two stab wounds to
least one or two stab wounds to her chest. Her neck appeared to
her chest. Her neck appeared to be quite bruised, black and
be quite bruised, black and blue. Now, it looked like she
blue. Now, it looked like she possibly was strangled. It
possibly was strangled. It looked like she was stabbed,
looked like she was stabbed, and she looks like she was beat
and she looks like she was beat in the head. Now, to me, that's
in the head. Now, to me, that's definite overkill. The first
definite overkill. The first thing I want to determine is,
thing I want to determine is, is there a break-in? I looked
is there a break-in? I looked at the front door, and there
at the front door, and there was no apparent force used to
was no apparent force used to get into the house. I walked
get into the house. I walked upstairs and went to the master
upstairs and went to the master bedroom. There was drawers
bedroom. There was drawers pulled out and placed on the
pulled out and placed on the floor, totally out of place
floor, totally out of place because you don't put them on
because you don't put them on the ground like that. So it
the ground like that. So it looked like a stage burglary.
Looked like a stage burglary. About that time, susanne
about that time, susanne understandably was stressed
understandably was stressed out. She wanted us out of
out. She wanted us out of there. She wanted us to clean
there. She wanted us to clean up the scene, get her mother in
up the scene, get her mother in an ambulance, and take her to
an ambulance, and take her to the hospital. There were red
the hospital. There were red flags immediately with this
flags immediately with this investigation. One of the very
investigation. One of the very first things she says in the
first things she says in the first couple of minutes of us
first couple of minutes of us arriving is that her mother is
arriving is that her mother is worth high seven figures, "oh,
worth high seven figures, "oh, and my dna and my fingerprints
and my dna and my fingerprints are gonna be all over that
are gonna be all over that house and that knife." it just
house and that knife." it just seemed like an odd thing to
seemed like an odd thing to focus in on. It struck me as
focus in on. It struck me as odd. Because she was so erratic,
odd. Because she was so erratic, it took a long time to kind of
it took a long time to kind of settle her down and to get her
settle her down and to get her to go back to the station and
to go back to the station and just talk about who may or may
just talk about who may or may not have done this thing.
Not have done this thing. Susanne, she said she came to
susanne, she said she came to the home, her mother's home,
the home, her mother's home, and when she opened the door,
and when she opened the door, obviously, she saw that her
obviously, she saw that her mother had the knife in her
mother had the knife in her chest and she pulled the knife
chest and she pulled the knife out.
Out. >> so I thought maybe she fell
>> so I thought maybe she fell down the stairs because of the
down the stairs because of the way she was, and I saw the
way she was, and I saw the knife. So I pulled the knife. I
knife. So I pulled the knife. I touched her neck. I touched her
touched her neck. I touched her face. I said, "oh, this is not
face. I said, "oh, this is not good."
good." >> that was a big concern for
>> that was a big concern for us. Why would you touch the
us. Why would you touch the murder weapon?
Murder weapon? >> I guess I shouldn't have
>> I guess I shouldn't have touched the knife, huh?
Touched the knife, huh? >> with susanne, we basically
>> with susanne, we basically just wanted to go back the last
just wanted to go back the last couple of days. We wanted to
couple of days. We wanted to know what she was doing, where
know what she was doing, where she was going, where she had
she was going, where she had been. We spoke to her for a
been. We spoke to her for a number of hours, but these
number of hours, but these investigations take time. We
investigations take time. We might have to revisit the same
might have to revisit the same witness over and over again. So
witness over and over again. So we made an appointment for the
we made an appointment for the following day. The next day,
following day. The next day, she hired an attorney and
she hired an attorney and stopped talking to us. She
stopped talking to us. She refused to cooperate. To me,
refused to cooperate. To me, the biggest red flag of all is
the biggest red flag of all is when you hire an attorney and
when you hire an attorney and refuse to help law enforcement
refuse to help law enforcement when your own mother is the
when your own mother is the murder victim. So if you don't
murder victim. So if you don't want to help the people who are
want to help the people who are trying to find the people who
trying to find the people who killed your mother, who are you
killed your mother, who are you going to help? After susanne
going to help? After susanne told us that she wasn't going
told us that she wasn't going to cooperate any further, we
to cooperate any further, we had to refocus our energies. As
had to refocus our energies. As it turns out, there was no dna
it turns out, there was no dna evidence. There was no
evidence. There was no fingerprints. There was no hair,
fingerprints. There was no hair, saliva, nothing. We were beyond
saliva, nothing. We were beyond frustrated, but obviously we
frustrated, but obviously we didn't stop. We kept -- we kept
didn't stop. We kept -- we kept digging. We had to keep moving
digging. We had to keep moving forward. We go back to basics.
Forward. We go back to basics. We take a look at the phone
we take a look at the phone records for peggy. At the same
records for peggy. At the same time, we're getting her son's
time, we're getting her son's phone records and her
phone records and her daughter-in-law's phone records,
daughter-in-law's phone records, as well. I was parsing through
as well. I was parsing through each individual phone call. I
each individual phone call. I got to like the sixth number.
Got to like the sixth number. We discover a phone call at
we discover a phone call at approximately 1:30 in the
approximately 1:30 in the morning the night of the
morning the night of the homicide coming from a throw
homicide coming from a throw phone. The burner phone, I was
phone. The burner phone, I was ecstatic. We also get a
ecstatic. We also get a notification from the alarm
notification from the alarm company that she had spoken to
company that she had spoken to the alarm company because the
the alarm company because the alarm went off around the same
alarm went off around the same time. So we actually have
time. So we actually have peggy's voice speaking to the
peggy's voice speaking to the alarm company, telling the
alarm company, telling the alarm dispatcher that
alarm dispatcher that everything is okay.
Everything is okay. >> hello, this is the
>> hello, this is the monitoring center with bullet
monitoring center with bullet security.
Security. >> this is peggy nadell. The,
>> this is peggy nadell. The, uh, code word is, uh, "max."
uh, code word is, uh, "max." I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. >> that's okay, ma'am.
>> that's okay, ma'am. >> everything's fine.
>> everything's fine. >> I'm glad everything's okay.
>> I'm glad everything's okay. We'll disregard for you. Have a
we'll disregard for you. Have a good night.
Good night. >> it was about a 20-second
>> it was about a 20-second phone call, and in conjunction
phone call, and in conjunction with that, the alarm going off,
with that, the alarm going off, and no forced entry at the
and no forced entry at the front door, at that point, we
front door, at that point, we were positive. This was not a
were positive. This was not a stranger lurking around the
stranger lurking around the neighborhood killing old
neighborhood killing old ladies. This was somebody that
ladies. This was somebody that peggy knew.
Peggy knew.
>> I'm anne martin, and I was a close friend of peggy nadell.
Close friend of peggy nadell. When I found out that peggy was
when I found out that peggy was murdered, I mean, I just -- I
murdered, I mean, I just -- I just couldn't believe it. It
just couldn't believe it. It was Sunday morning. I remember
was Sunday morning. I remember picking up the phone and
picking up the phone and susie's hysterical. She's
susie's hysterical. She's saying, "my mother's gone! My
saying, "my mother's gone! My mother's gone! "
mother's gone! " >> anne, it's susie. My
>> anne, it's susie. My mother's gone.
Mother's gone. >> say, "she passed away."
>> say, "she passed away." >> she's passed away.
>> she's passed away. >> she just didn't even know
>> she just didn't even know what to do. The police were
what to do. The police were questioning her. I think she
questioning her. I think she was just in a state of shock.
Was just in a state of shock. It was unbelievable. People
it was unbelievable. People were saying, "oh, well, she
were saying, "oh, well, she could have done it. Why did she
could have done it. Why did she pull the knife out? " well, I'm
pull the knife out? " well, I'm sure if I saw my mother lying
sure if I saw my mother lying there, I would think, "my
there, I would think, "my goodness, maybe this hurts." I
goodness, maybe this hurts." I don't know. You don't know what
don't know. You don't know what you would do if you're in that
you would do if you're in that situation. The detectives came
situation. The detectives came to my home probably one or two
to my home probably one or two days right after that. You know,
days right after that. You know, asking me all kinds of
asking me all kinds of questions and, of course, they
questions and, of course, they -- they did ask me what kind of
-- they did ask me what kind of a relationship she had with her
a relationship she had with her children. Jimmy and susie, they
children. Jimmy and susie, they were both, I'd say, different.
Were both, I'd say, different. Susie was, uh, strong-minded.
Susie was, uh, strong-minded. She knew what she wanted. She
she knew what she wanted. She could take care of herself.
Could take care of herself. Peggy was more protective of
peggy was more protective of jimmy. I think peggy probably
jimmy. I think peggy probably worried about jimmy a little
worried about jimmy a little more because he was far away
more because he was far away and he did March to a different
and he did March to a different drummer. After he graduated
drummer. After he graduated college, when he went to live
college, when he went to live in florida, he started to work
in florida, he started to work for a hospital as a
for a hospital as a psychologist, and that's where
psychologist, and that's where he met diana. They went
he met diana. They went together for several years
together for several years before they had any intentions
before they had any intentions of getting married. When peggy
of getting married. When peggy found out that diana was
found out that diana was pregnant, she was delighted.
Pregnant, she was delighted. She was beside herself. Peggy
she was beside herself. Peggy would fly to florida to help.
Would fly to florida to help. When peggy would talk about her
when peggy would talk about her grandchildren, her whole face
grandchildren, her whole face would just light up. She just
would just light up. She just thought the world of them.
Thought the world of them. Diana, she liked to have
diana, she liked to have designer clothes. She liked
designer clothes. She liked nice jewelry. They really
nice jewelry. They really couldn't afford all these
couldn't afford all these things. And then she would
things. And then she would depend on peggy. I think the
depend on peggy. I think the issue started to come up
issue started to come up between peggy and diana when
between peggy and diana when diana started to become a
diana started to become a little too demanding. Peggy was
little too demanding. Peggy was always sending them money.
Always sending them money. Peggy said, "you know, diana,
peggy said, "you know, diana, this is just a little bit too
this is just a little bit too much. You know, I won't go
much. You know, I won't go along with this." diana says,
along with this." diana says, "well, if you won't come across
"well, if you won't come across with the money, " she says, "I
with the money, " she says, "I just won't let you see the
just won't let you see the children." well, that just
children." well, that just absolutely devastated peggy. I
absolutely devastated peggy. I mean, not be able to see or
mean, not be able to see or talk to her grandchildren was
talk to her grandchildren was horrible. It was a terrible
horrible. It was a terrible thing to do. Peggy did mention
thing to do. Peggy did mention to me that they were having
to me that they were having problems, diana and jimmy, and
problems, diana and jimmy, and that they might separate. And
that they might separate. And of course, peggy was concerned.
Of course, peggy was concerned. I mean, she was concerned about
I mean, she was concerned about her son, his happiness, and how
her son, his happiness, and how this was going to affect him.
This was going to affect him. Peggy was very astute when it
peggy was very astute when it came to finances. She had her
came to finances. She had her will and her trust. Everything
will and her trust. Everything was in order. Everything was
was in order. Everything was divided equally between her son
divided equally between her son and her daughter. They were to
and her daughter. They were to get the bulk of her estate. She
get the bulk of her estate. She made it clear that if they ever
made it clear that if they ever separated or divorced, that,
separated or divorced, that, you know, jimmy was to get the
you know, jimmy was to get the money and that diana was not to
money and that diana was not to get any of peggy's estate --
get any of peggy's estate -- none -- none whatsoever. So
none -- none whatsoever. So aunt diana, when she found out
aunt diana, when she found out that this was so, of course,
that this was so, of course, was not very happy. After peggy
was not very happy. After peggy died, she came in, just putting
died, she came in, just putting her name on everything she
her name on everything she wanted. She wanted peggy's
wanted. She wanted peggy's jewelry. She wanted peggy's
jewelry. She wanted peggy's purses. Peggy had a lot of nice
purses. Peggy had a lot of nice handbags. She wanted the
handbags. She wanted the furniture from the house. You
furniture from the house. You start thinking and putting two
start thinking and putting two and two together. And you think,
and two together. And you think, "you know, she has a good
"you know, she has a good motive. It's very possible that
motive. It's very possible that she would do something like
she would do something like this."
this."
>> my name is darcy greenberg, and I am a longtime friend of
and I am a longtime friend of susanne. After susanne got out
susanne. After susanne got out of the police station, I was
of the police station, I was waiting for her at her home and
waiting for her at her home and we were treating it as an
we were treating it as an accident. We were, you know,
accident. We were, you know, comforting her because her
comforting her because her mother fell with a knife. It's
mother fell with a knife. It's a different feeling when you're
a different feeling when you're comforting someone for a tragic
comforting someone for a tragic loss like that. And then you
loss like that. And then you get accused of being the one
get accused of being the one that did it. That changes
that did it. That changes everything. Sometimes I think
everything. Sometimes I think the authorities say who has
the authorities say who has access to the house, and 95% of
access to the house, and 95% of the time, it's family. "oh, it
the time, it's family. "oh, it must be her." every day, I was
must be her." every day, I was at her home. We would wave to
at her home. We would wave to the undercover cop sitting in
the undercover cop sitting in front of her house. They
front of her house. They watched every move she made.
Watched every move she made. They had to become more
they had to become more intimate with the family, with
intimate with the family, with susanne, with peggy, to really
susanne, with peggy, to really know who could have done this
know who could have done this to her. I have been speaking
to her. I have been speaking with the investigator since the
with the investigator since the beginning. You take the
beginning. You take the information that there's a lot
information that there's a lot of money involved and you also
of money involved and you also take the information of a knife
take the information of a knife being put through someone's
being put through someone's heart, and they tell you that
heart, and they tell you that it's most likely a family
it's most likely a family person, somebody that had
person, somebody that had something to gain. I looked at
something to gain. I looked at them, and I'm like, "everything
them, and I'm like, "everything you're saying and the reasons
you're saying and the reasons why you think somebody would do
why you think somebody would do this, I agree with you, but
this, I agree with you, but you're looking at the wrong
you're looking at the wrong person." I told them susanne
person." I told them susanne didn't need the money. She had
didn't need the money. She had her own. Susanne was a
her own. Susanne was a laid-back jeans girl with the
laid-back jeans girl with the same kitchen from the 1960s,
same kitchen from the 1960s, the same furniture her dad
the same furniture her dad picked out when she moved in.
Picked out when she moved in. Knowing that it wasn't susanne
knowing that it wasn't susanne 100%, knowing that they felt it
100%, knowing that they felt it was family, my instincts was
was family, my instincts was for them to follow the greed,
for them to follow the greed, follow the money, follow diana.
Follow the money, follow diana. Anyone who didn't really know
anyone who didn't really know peggy would not know her wealth
peggy would not know her wealth because she was not a flaunter.
Because she was not a flaunter. She was very smart about how
she was very smart about how she spent her money, who she
she spent her money, who she spent it on. Peggy was always
spent it on. Peggy was always financially providing whatever
financially providing whatever diana needed because it was
diana needed because it was important to her to have a good
important to her to have a good relationship with diana, to be
relationship with diana, to be able to have that good
able to have that good relationship with her
relationship with her grandchildren. Most of the
grandchildren. Most of the money would just go directly to
money would just go directly to diana. She was in charge of the
diana. She was in charge of the household, the bills, the money,
household, the bills, the money, all of that. Jimmy trusted her.
All of that. Jimmy trusted her. From what the police told me,
from what the police told me, when they spoke to her, she was
when they spoke to her, she was at her cousin's wedding in
at her cousin's wedding in maryland and her phone pinged
maryland and her phone pinged in maryland. And as far as they
in maryland. And as far as they were concerned, that's where
were concerned, that's where she was. I don't know. Maybe I
she was. I don't know. Maybe I watch too much tv. Something
watch too much tv. Something just didn't sit right with me.
Just didn't sit right with me. Just because the phone is
just because the phone is somewhere, it doesn't mean a
somewhere, it doesn't mean a person is there, too.
Person is there, too. Eventually, they noticed that
eventually, they noticed that the phone was not used. It was
the phone was not used. It was just there. She wasn't anywhere
just there. She wasn't anywhere near the area of maryland where
near the area of maryland where the wedding was, and that was
the wedding was, and that was just the beginning of
just the beginning of everything just exploding and
everything just exploding and unraveling and getting to the
unraveling and getting to the truth. Shortly after that, I
truth. Shortly after that, I started getting phone calls at
started getting phone calls at my house, and diana started
my house, and diana started calling me, and she was, you
calling me, and she was, you know, very upset. She was
know, very upset. She was calling me almost every morning,
calling me almost every morning, and it would be from different
and it would be from different phone numbers. And she seemed
phone numbers. And she seemed very rattled and very off and
very rattled and very off and very asking me a lot of
very asking me a lot of questions where it seemed like
questions where it seemed like she was getting nervous, like
she was getting nervous, like the police may be looking at
the police may be looking at her, which I said, "they have
her, which I said, "they have to look at everybody. They have
to look at everybody. They have to look at you. They have to
to look at you. They have to follow their leads, and don't
follow their leads, and don't worry about it." and as each
worry about it." and as each day went on, it felt like it
day went on, it felt like it was getting worse and she was
was getting worse and she was getting more nervous and more
getting more nervous and more upset about her being
upset about her being questioned or her being thought
questioned or her being thought of as a possible suspect. Now,
of as a possible suspect. Now, one morning she called me and
one morning she called me and she thanked me for listening
she thanked me for listening and said she's leaving and
and said she's leaving and taking one of the kids and
taking one of the kids and she's moving back to jamaica. I
she's moving back to jamaica. I got off the phone, and I'm
got off the phone, and I'm thinking to myself, "she's
thinking to myself, "she's leaving the country. That's it.
Leaving the country. That's it. Whether she's guilty or
whether she's guilty or innocent, that's it." once
innocent, that's it." once she's gone, she's gone. That
she's gone, she's gone. That can't bring her back. So I
can't bring her back. So I called the police. I said,
called the police. I said, "listen, she's leaving. She's
"listen, she's leaving. She's got her tickets. She's getting
got her tickets. She's getting on a plane. If you think she
on a plane. If you think she did this, you need to go get
did this, you need to go get her."
her."
>> my name is richard moran, and I was a prosecutor handling
and I was a prosecutor handling this matter. When the diana
this matter. When the diana nadell called her friend and
nadell called her friend and said, "I'm leaving jim and
said, "I'm leaving jim and we're going to jamaica, " it
we're going to jamaica, " it was at that point we decided,
was at that point we decided, you know what, we've got to go
you know what, we've got to go to florida. You've got to be
to florida. You've got to be very careful when you
very careful when you investigate these cases because
investigate these cases because one wrong move, and your target
one wrong move, and your target knows you're looking at them.
Knows you're looking at them. When you first start
when you first start investigating a case -- it's
investigating a case -- it's her daughter-in-law. Your
her daughter-in-law. Your thought really isn't that she's
thought really isn't that she's gonna be the one that did this.
Gonna be the one that did this. Diane, she had an alibi that
diane, she had an alibi that she was at a wedding in
she was at a wedding in washington, d.C. What it kept
washington, d.C. What it kept coming back to is, yes, her
coming back to is, yes, her phone was in d.C., but other
phone was in d.C., but other than those phone calls, there
than those phone calls, there was really nothing to
was really nothing to corroborate that she was there.
Corroborate that she was there. A big key of this investigation
a big key of this investigation was the fact that just prior to
was the fact that just prior to peggy nadell being murdered,
peggy nadell being murdered, her phone received a call from
her phone received a call from an alarm company. And in
an alarm company. And in looking at the caller I.D., we
looking at the caller I.D., we saw that just before the alarm
saw that just before the alarm company called, it was what
company called, it was what some people called a burner
some people called a burner phone -- a phone that's prepaid,
phone -- a phone that's prepaid, that's not really associated
that's not really associated with any one specific person.
With any one specific person. When we learned that the track
when we learned that the track phone was purchased in florida
phone was purchased in florida so close to diana nadell's home,
so close to diana nadell's home, that was a game-changer for us,
that was a game-changer for us, and it really shifted the focus
and it really shifted the focus of our investigation. We did a
of our investigation. We did a thorough analysis of diana
thorough analysis of diana nadell's phone records. Just a
nadell's phone records. Just a day or two before peggy nadell
day or two before peggy nadell was murdered, all of a sudden,
was murdered, all of a sudden, diana nadell starts speaking on
diana nadell starts speaking on the phone with a person named
the phone with a person named andrea benson who's in
andrea benson who's in washington, d.C. She also
washington, d.C. She also starts communicating with a
starts communicating with a person named tanisha joyner in
person named tanisha joyner in the days following the murder
the days following the murder -- people she had never spoken
-- people she had never spoken with prior to this happening.
With prior to this happening. At that point, we had enough to
at that point, we had enough to go up on a wiretap. What we
go up on a wiretap. What we decided would be the perfect
decided would be the perfect trigger is, let's ask diana
trigger is, let's ask diana nadell about her alibi. Who was
nadell about her alibi. Who was she with in washington, d.C.?
She with in washington, d.C.? And we were asking her if they
and we were asking her if they could just give us a call and
could just give us a call and confirm her alibi. And once we
confirm her alibi. And once we did that, her phone calls
did that, her phone calls exploded. She reached out to
exploded. She reached out to tanisha joyner, and there was
tanisha joyner, and there was this very interesting call.
This very interesting call. Tanisha says, "wait a minute.
Tanisha says, "wait a minute. Was I with you from 9:00 p.M.
Was I with you from 9:00 p.M. To 6:00 a.M., or from 6:00 a.M.
To 6:00 a.M., or from 6:00 a.M. To 9:00 p.M.? " because she
to 9:00 p.M.? " because she doesn't know because she wasn't
doesn't know because she wasn't with her. There were several
with her. There were several phone calls with andrea benson.
Phone calls with andrea benson. They wouldn't talk about the
they wouldn't talk about the case on the phone, but there
case on the phone, but there was one time where andrea
was one time where andrea benson said, "listen, I'm in
benson said, "listen, I'm in this with you. I'm in this,
this with you. I'm in this, too." the adrenaline starts
too." the adrenaline starts pumping. We feel like we're
pumping. We feel like we're really getting to the point
really getting to the point where our theories are now --
where our theories are now -- they're not theories. Now it's
they're not theories. Now it's evidence. It was after that
evidence. It was after that phone call about her going to
phone call about her going to jamaica, we decided to move. We
jamaica, we decided to move. We sent people to interview diana
sent people to interview diana and all of the people that she
and all of the people that she had involved in this plot. We
had involved in this plot. We had the teams actually with
had the teams actually with people under surveillance. At
people under surveillance. At the word "go, " everybody went
the word "go, " everybody went into action. Tanisha joyner was
into action. Tanisha joyner was taken into custody. Andrea
taken into custody. Andrea benson was taken into custody.
Benson was taken into custody. And that all happened
and that all happened simultaneously. Once these
simultaneously. Once these people are being spoken to and
people are being spoken to and interviewed by detectives,
interviewed by detectives, diana nadell's entire story
diana nadell's entire story starts to break down. Tanisha
starts to break down. Tanisha joyner was being interviewed in
joyner was being interviewed in baltimore and was telling the
baltimore and was telling the detectives there that diana
detectives there that diana nadell had asked her to make
nadell had asked her to make phone calls that evening. When
phone calls that evening. When we interviewed andrea benson,
we interviewed andrea benson, we learned a lot of details
we learned a lot of details about this case that we just
about this case that we just didn't know, things that we
didn't know, things that we thought were always going to
thought were always going to remain a mystery. She met diana
remain a mystery. She met diana nadell through her aunt.
Nadell through her aunt. Andrea's aunt was supposed to
andrea's aunt was supposed to pick up diana nadell from the
pick up diana nadell from the airport in washington, d.C.,
airport in washington, d.C., but she couldn't, and so she
but she couldn't, and so she sent andrea. When she picked
sent andrea. When she picked diana nadell up, diana asked
diana nadell up, diana asked her if she wanted to make $10,
her if she wanted to make $10, 000, and to do so, she would
000, and to do so, she would have to go up to new york and
have to go up to new york and kill diana's mother-in-law.
Kill diana's mother-in-law. While driving up to valley
while driving up to valley cottage, diana had andrea
cottage, diana had andrea benson activate the burner
benson activate the burner phone, and that was along route
phone, and that was along route 95. On their way up, diana,
95. On their way up, diana, every time they were at a toll
every time they were at a toll plaza, would hide her face so
plaza, would hide her face so that her face couldn't be seen
that her face couldn't be seen on camera. Once they got to
on camera. Once they got to peggy nadell's home in valley
peggy nadell's home in valley cottage, diana nadell called
cottage, diana nadell called peggy from the burner phone and
peggy from the burner phone and told her she was in the area.
Told her she was in the area. Could she come in? It had to
could she come in? It had to have been such a surreal
have been such a surreal scenario for her. Her
scenario for her. Her daughter-in-law is at her door
daughter-in-law is at her door with a stranger. It's 1:00 in
with a stranger. It's 1:00 in the morning. Nonetheless, it
the morning. Nonetheless, it was her daughter-in-law, and
was her daughter-in-law, and she let her in, gave her a
she let her in, gave her a glass of water, sat down and
glass of water, sat down and spoke with her. At that point,
spoke with her. At that point, diana asked peggy, "can we go
diana asked peggy, "can we go upstairs? " peggy told diana
upstairs? " peggy told diana she was gonna go use the
she was gonna go use the restroom, so diane and andrea
restroom, so diane and andrea were in the room alone. And
were in the room alone. And diana begins, like, "we're
diana begins, like, "we're gonna do this now." and andrea
gonna do this now." and andrea told us that she had taken off
told us that she had taken off the strap from her pocketbook.
The strap from her pocketbook. It unhooked on either side. And
it unhooked on either side. And she was gonna use that to
she was gonna use that to strangle peggy. Diana starts
strangle peggy. Diana starts talking to peggy about the
talking to peggy about the family jewelry. And they start
family jewelry. And they start going down the stairs, and
going down the stairs, and peggy's in front, andrea's
peggy's in front, andrea's right behind her. That time,
right behind her. That time, andrea starts strangling peggy
andrea starts strangling peggy from behind. And in
from behind. And in interviewing andrea, she kept
interviewing andrea, she kept repeating the phrase, "but she
repeating the phrase, "but she wouldn't go. She wouldn't die."
wouldn't go. She wouldn't die." diana ran to the kitchen and
diana ran to the kitchen and grabbed a kitchen knife and
grabbed a kitchen knife and brought it back and was telling
brought it back and was telling andrea, "stab her! Stab her! "
andrea, "stab her! Stab her! " and andrea said she refused to
and andrea said she refused to do it. And so while she was
do it. And so while she was choking peggy, diana stabbed
choking peggy, diana stabbed peggy nadell in the chest. Once
peggy nadell in the chest. Once diana was picked up in florida
diana was picked up in florida and brought in for an interview,
and brought in for an interview, at first, she didn't know why
at first, she didn't know why she was there. And then she saw
she was there. And then she saw detective lorence and detective
detective lorence and detective cole-hatchard walk in the room,
cole-hatchard walk in the room, and her face dropped. The first
and her face dropped. The first words she said was, "you think
words she said was, "you think I killed my mother-in-law? "
I killed my mother-in-law? " >> you know who we are, right?
>> you know who we are, right? >> yeah, why wouldn't I know
>> yeah, why wouldn't I know who you are? They think I
who you are? They think I killed my mother-in-law. Is
killed my mother-in-law. Is that what this is about? I did
that what this is about? I did not murder my mother-in-law.
Not murder my mother-in-law. >> under those circumstances,
>> under those circumstances, it was very telling. Diana
it was very telling. Diana nadell and andrea benson were
nadell and andrea benson were both arrested and charged with
both arrested and charged with murder and had to wait to be
murder and had to wait to be extradited to the state of new
extradited to the state of new york. Just when we thought this
york. Just when we thought this case couldn't get any crazier,
case couldn't get any crazier, it did.
It did.
>> I was fast asleep. It was like 11:00 at night, 10:00 at
like 11:00 at night, 10:00 at night, and bobby came in and
night, and bobby came in and woke me up and said, "your
woke me up and said, "your cousin is here." I came out.
Cousin is here." I came out. They said, they told me, "they
they said, they told me, "they arrested diana, " and I was --
arrested diana, " and I was -- I was shocked, but I wasn't
I was shocked, but I wasn't surprised. I think the first
surprised. I think the first thing I said, "I knew she had
thing I said, "I knew she had something to do with it."
something to do with it." >> when andrea benson and diana
>> when andrea benson and diana nadell were first charged, they
nadell were first charged, they were charged with murder in the
were charged with murder in the second degree. Once andrea
second degree. Once andrea benson flipped and became a
benson flipped and became a witness for the prosecution, we
witness for the prosecution, we were then able to upgrade the
were then able to upgrade the charges against diana nadell to
charges against diana nadell to murder in the first degree,
murder in the first degree, murder for hire. Tanisha joyner
murder for hire. Tanisha joyner also became state's evidence
also became state's evidence and pleaded guilty to a lesser
and pleaded guilty to a lesser crime.
Crime. >> andrea, she doesn't come
>> andrea, she doesn't come from a lot. She's had a tough
from a lot. She's had a tough upbringing, as it were, and she
upbringing, as it were, and she has quite a criminal history.
Has quite a criminal history. She has a young child at home,
she has a young child at home, doesn't have a husband, works a
doesn't have a husband, works a menial job at one of the local
menial job at one of the local supermarkets. Diana offers her
supermarkets. Diana offers her $10,000 if she would help her
$10,000 if she would help her kill peggy. She agrees on the
kill peggy. She agrees on the drive from the airport.
Drive from the airport. >> andrea benson only received
>> andrea benson only received $500 up front and was going to
$500 up front and was going to get the rest of the money when
get the rest of the money when diana got her money, which
diana got her money, which never came, obviously.
Never came, obviously. >> I received a phone call from
>> I received a phone call from a detective in the jurisdiction
a detective in the jurisdiction of where diana nadell was being
of where diana nadell was being held in custody, pending trial,
held in custody, pending trial, and we were told that an inmate
and we were told that an inmate had reported that diana nadell
had reported that diana nadell tried to hire her to arrange
tried to hire her to arrange for the murder of tanisha
for the murder of tanisha joyner. There are some people
joyner. There are some people that can't help but to try to
that can't help but to try to control every aspect of a
control every aspect of a situation, and diana nadell
situation, and diana nadell kept trying to do that even
kept trying to do that even while she was in jail. We met
while she was in jail. We met with the inmate. She was fitted
with the inmate. She was fitted with a recording device and
with a recording device and went back into the area where
went back into the area where diana nadell was, and at that
diana nadell was, and at that time, diana nadell did exactly
time, diana nadell did exactly what the inmate said she did.
What the inmate said she did. She gave her the information of
she gave her the information of tanisha joyner, said she needed
tanisha joyner, said she needed to be dead. We went into grand
to be dead. We went into grand jury and indicted diana nadell,
jury and indicted diana nadell, at that point, for attempting
at that point, for attempting to have this witness murdered.
To have this witness murdered. And at that point, she had no
and at that point, she had no choice but to plead guilty.
Choice but to plead guilty. Diana nadell's attorney came to
diana nadell's attorney came to us and asked us if we would
us and asked us if we would consider a plea of 23 to life.
Consider a plea of 23 to life. And after speaking with the
and after speaking with the family and weighing everything,
family and weighing everything, for us, that was something we
for us, that was something we could live with.
Could live with. >> I saw diana when she was
>> I saw diana when she was being arraigned. That's the
being arraigned. That's the first time I saw her after my
first time I saw her after my mother's murder. She wouldn't
mother's murder. She wouldn't even turn around and look at
even turn around and look at me.
Me. >> this murder was about greed.
>> this murder was about greed. Diana learned that if she left
diana learned that if she left her husband prior to peggy's
her husband prior to peggy's death, she would get nothing.
Death, she would get nothing. And that wasn't something she
and that wasn't something she was willing to accept.
Was willing to accept. >> diana saw my mother as a
>> diana saw my mother as a cash machine. Diana thought she
cash machine. Diana thought she knew what my mother was worth.
Knew what my mother was worth. I didn't know what my mother
I didn't know what my mother was worth. I knew there was
was worth. I knew there was money. I didn't know how much
money. I didn't know how much money. It didn't matter.
Money. It didn't matter. >> it sounds cheesy, but you
>> it sounds cheesy, but you become a prosecutor because
become a prosecutor because it's one of the only jobs in
it's one of the only jobs in the world where your job is to
the world where your job is to just do justice and to do the
just do justice and to do the right thing. This case began
right thing. This case began with walking into peggy
with walking into peggy nadell's home and seeing her
nadell's home and seeing her brutally murdered on her floor,
brutally murdered on her floor, and it ended with diana nadell
and it ended with diana nadell serving what I believe will be
serving what I believe will be the rest of her life in prison.
The rest of her life in prison. >> I know that diana is not
>> I know that diana is not enjoying jail. I've heard
enjoying jail. I've heard through the grapevine, diana
through the grapevine, diana refuses to tell anybody why she
refuses to tell anybody why she is there. I guess she's
is there. I guess she's embarrassed. She doesn't want
embarrassed. She doesn't want anybody to know she's a
anybody to know she's a murderer. I think, to this day,
murderer. I think, to this day, she's still claiming she was
she's still claiming she was framed.
Framed. >> she just ruined so many
>> she just ruined so many lives. You know, friends,
lives. You know, friends, family. I mean, what susie had
family. I mean, what susie had to go through and even, I'm
to go through and even, I'm sure, what jimmy had to go
sure, what jimmy had to go through.
Through. >> now susanne and jimmy have
>> now susanne and jimmy have to live without their mother
to live without their mother and live with the nightmare of
and live with the nightmare of what happened. Not only did
what happened. Not only did susanne and jimmy lose their
susanne and jimmy lose their mother, they lost each other.
Mother, they lost each other.
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