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It's not as disappointing as ...
It is and it is not.
which is comforting, is knowing that he's okay now.
I see you have discussed it with the Maharishi this afternoon.
What are the tips that he gave you?
He told us ...
not to let us overwhelm by grief and ...
To make our memories with Brian happy times,
because all our thoughts for him will travel to him.
He had met Mr. Epstein?
No, but he couldn't wait to do it.
- Tomorrow? - Yes.
Thank you very much.
In this interview, we can see that John is in shock.
They were really fascinated by the Maharishi.
It was not another diversion.
They believed it.
They were immersed in this chaotic world.
Brian was dead.
And it was ...
EPSTEIN (THE MAN WHO MADE THE BEATLES) IS DEAD AT 32
There is always a moment in our lives where we turn to religion
as a lifestyle, as a philosophy, looking for answers.
And that's what they did.
A friend called me very early.
I couldn't believe it.
And I said to myself: -Where are we going now?-
It was a terrible shock for everyone.
Where were we going now?
The Maharishi said to them:
-Don't worry, he ...
He took the next step.
Do not be sad.
He left and it will turn into that.
He charged them all this nonsense.
Unfortunately, the Beatles were interviewed
just after.
The Maharishi had told them all these nonsense
and they passed for insensitive beings.
Brian's mother and brother Clive,
were furious because of that.
The impression it gave.
The week Brian thought go to Bangor,
in fact, he stayed at home.
That weekend, Robert Stigwood invited me
to have a drink.
When I got there, Brian was at home
and we sat down to watch ...
We watched sport on TV and we had a few drinks.
Then we went to Battersea Fun Fair
and we had fun for two hours.
We had to smoke, because we laughed a lot.
I remember I was laughing
and one was not without the other.
Then we went to dinner.
At the end of the dinner, Brian said to me: I would like us to do that again.
You are free ? And we organized a dinner the next day.
The next day, I found Brian at his house
and we went to Fredericks for dinner.
We went home to have a few drinks.
And I understood after a few drinks brandy
that Brian wanted me to stay.
But I didn't mean to.
So I said to him, -I'm going.- Brian pouted.
I said, -Sorry. I'm leaving. It's like that.-
And he told me ... I was leaving and he said to me:
-Can you stay all weekend?-
And so what ?
I knew he wanted me to stay and I didn't want to stay.
I said, -We'll see later.- The next day, on the phone, he said to me:
-You come to spend the weekend in the countryside ?-
-No, I'm going to Ireland.-
What do we know on Brian's end of life?
Not much.
And we will never know anything.
I spoke to Jo the next day and she ...
They could not...
They didn't know he was at home.
He was supposed to be to his country house.
And she got this call
from the driver saying to him: -I can't open the door.-
She went there and she found it.
I said, at that time:
-I do not understand. He was so happy there.
Why did he come back?
Right in the middle of the weekend? -
But no one will know what happened. Never.
So...
You know about Brian and me. I continue ?
- Yes. - Okay.
While I was in Ireland, I got a call from a friend
saying: -Brian Epstein is dead.-
I immediately looked at the newspapers
and they said he was found that morning died of an overdose.
I had at home the very first answering machine
that the company had had specially for me.
They were experimenting what we could do with it.
I had a sixth sense inside me.
I knew that when I got home in London i would press the button
and there would be a message from Brian.
I was sure of it. I came home and I pressed
and there were several messages from Brian.
He had gone to the countryside as expected.
He called my house when I was not there
to say to me, -If you're here, join me in the countryside. -
Then he said, -I'm going home.
You can pass ?-
I did not hear these messages. I was in Ireland.
The messages continued. They were more and more vague.
And it was obvious, by listening to them,
that he had taken pills to sleep.
Each time he woke up, he had to start again one, forgetting that he had already taken it.
And the last message was very vague.
Said, -I wish you were here.-
And other personal things which I will not repeat.
Then he died.
So I was a little involved.
And I did the stupid thing what the English do,
I erased the tape.
I couldn't listen to them again.
And There you go.
I didn't know the value of these things.
BRIAN SAMUEL EPSTEIN SEP 19, 1934 - AUGUST 27, 1967
Brian Epstein was part of it all.
And it was a real shock,
because we said to ourselves: -Will they recover?
What's going to happen ?-
In hindsight, it's as if he had played his part.
He left in this other spirit world ...
They were going elsewhere.
They realized that they had lost a protective shield.
Like a protective parent.
Brian's negotiations weren't the best for the Beatles.
Because he was always late, negotiations already made.
He didn't understand this new territory.
But despite that, he was entirely dedicated to their protection.
As...
During the sentence scandal -more popular than Jesus-
from John.
Brian wanted to cancel the tour american
he was so worried about them.
But, ultimately, contractually, he couldn't but he wanted to.
That's what was gone, that shield. A waterproof shield
that he provided them as soon as he met them.
He did everything to help them ...
Brian's group.
Pete Brown and the members from the NEMS office,
they maintained the Beatles.
They paid their bills,
they bought gifts
for their girlfriends and their wives.
It was said that Brian was not a good manager.
He had not been the best when they had become
a mega-group and to earn money.
But without him, they never would have existed.
It was his perseverance ... His affection for them,
his certainty that they would pierce
and that their music was great.
He did other things what managers do
and he did them well.
How to keep profiteers away from them.
He built a wall between them and all profiteers.
Which is weird, for he never succeeded in erecting a wall
between himself and those who took advantage of him,
who clung to him and stole money from him.
He knew how to do it with the Beatles.
He kept them away.
So without him ... Far from his cautious attitude
facing money and finance which has ... All the profiteers flocked.
Sometimes in a group, we need a referee.
Few groups are still agree on everything.
We saw that with Help!
when they all go through the same door and all live together
but it was only a moment For the movie.
Everyone knows that in a group,
the characters develop.
And you don't always the same view
but you have this thing that makes it work.
A consensus with which each member of the group
rather agrees and everything is fine.
When Brian left, there was no longer referee to supervise.
They didn't know how to do anything by themselves.
They had never done anything.
He was still there.
In the group, he was the one who kept it all together.
They bounced back pretty quickly
if we think about it logically.
And they launched Apple.
Apple was a financial measure to try to consolidate their fortune ...
INAUGURATION OF APPLE STORE DEC 1967
... and to try to escape at huge taxes
by investing in a business.
It was all based on ... And it was a mistake.
It hadn't been planned to protect their copyright.
It was a financial measure in the short term.
It was a music label with a secondary affair.
The Beatles' influence had spread to other areas like fashion.
They were going to have a shop ...
They were going to do everything.
But it was also a kind de Conseil Artistique
where deserving young creators could find help and support.
Because the Beatles remembered from the time they were ...
Where they had ...
The Beatles have always been supportive.
It was a legend.
Brian Epstein, George Martin.
Dick James.
Three honest men
who encouraged them and valued them.
But they had suffered. So they were going to help
the suffering people of the creative community.
I interviewed Paul and he was swarming with ideas
about a communist Mark and Spencer's.
And I said to myself: -It will never work.-
But I also said to myself: -I'm not so sure.-
Because we said: -It's very interesting but ...
it's Paul-
and they might be right. It turned out not.
This is how Alice Pollock and Ossie Clark imagine the girls this summer.
And here are two of the Beatles.
George Harrison ... His wife Patti Boyd paraded.
And John Lennon.
From the haircut to the dress
or the leather outfit called Baz which is worth 25 guineas.
Patti Boyd carries the African Queen.
All in crepe and it's worth nine and a half guineas.
More casual, a white satin jacket and black pants.
Ten guineas together.
I worked for the Apple Store from the start.
I had been there for three months when we went to India.
And it was so different of everything around us.
To start, the beautiful Indian jewelry
and Ganesha's posters, of gods and goddesses.
It was very exciting to work there and it was so different.
But you always had to stick to what we felt at that time.
This is...
The world can be colorful. It is not necessarily in black and white.
Have they seen you before?
- Last night? - Yesterday.
Yesterday they came to see me for ten minutes.
And, now, they've been with me for 10 hours.
After their breakfast.
How long did they stay?
From 10 a.m. to now. About three hours.
What did you do?
Have you meditated or discussed?
Meditation, discussion and meditation. They are very intelligent.
Will they become graduate spiritual guides?
- What will be their status? - I hope so.
what should they do to achieve this goal?
To reach this goal, they must have a deep experience of being.
A doctor said to me, even if it was wrong, that I suffered from angina.
In fact, it was something else.
Different people came to see me.
John and Cynthia came one day,
and John said: -I made this drawing for you.-
It was the drawing of an Indian with a turban on his head.
He was playing the flute, sitting on the floor, cross-legged.
A snake was coming out of a basket placed at his feet.
There was an inscription:
By the power to bring in and bring out,
I beg your angina to go away. Sincerely, John and Cyn.
George often said, Take LSD
gave me insights but it was like climbing a mountain,
look on the other side of the summit and see that there are others. -
He wanted to continue his quest
but drug free.
And it gave them a kind of natural break.
It gave them an excuse to meet elsewhere, in peace.
I do not know how the Maharishi entered their life
but he was not the first.
I was often with the group.
I saw them every night at the Scotch of St. James.
We already knew that they saw another person like that.
The Maharishi came second.
As they went up the stairs of Indian mysticism,
they realized that their Maharishi was not as high up as that.
So they went to India with this Maharishi.
Who, we all knew, was a bit of an impostor
and who was not so high up.
But he had followed them up in five star hotels.
It's nice to adhere to Indian mysticism
and all its ascetic dimension while doing it in big hotels.
This is a funny story.
When they decided to go see the Maharishi in India.
Maureen was ... Ringo's wife had a blue fear of insects.
So she went to Harrods to buy a sleepsuit
but adult size.
So that they cannot climb on it.
And Richie, who always had fragile stomach
because of an illness, child,
said to me: -Can you buy me from Dr. Collis Browne, several liters,
and white beans in sauce and put it all in a suitcase?
White beans, Collis Browne. -
So, I obeyed and it was full.
This suitcase full of Collis Browne and of...
They returned two weeks later.
I said to Maureen: -It has been a long stay.
You got rid of all the white beans? -
Obviously the concept of Apple
was born before Brian died.
He was also worried about that,
it would take him away even more. Because he had not been consulted.
They weren't pushing him out
but it was not a project who was born at his instigation.
I heard about Apple a few weeks before his death.
It was one more element that made him feel
that he was no longer part of the group.
When they launched Apple,
we had lunch at the head office.
We had a chef and everything.
One day Paul came by
and they were losing money. They were giving too much.
He said, -I brought in a guy who will tell us where we are wrong
in our business plans. -
It was Beeching.
They invited him to lunch ...
PRESIDENT OF BRITISH RAILWAYS
... to use his brain to understand what they were doing wrong.
They had lunch
and I took the notes at the meeting that followed.
He looked at Paul and said,
I'm not going to help you much.
Because I work for organizations much larger than Apple.
And Paul said to himself, -Oh, my God.-
I looked at Paul and said, -Indeed.-
They had good ideas but also eccentric ideas.
They wanted to open a school, publish books.
A lot of things. Great ambitions. And they appealed to people:
-Send us your poems, your stories, your novels. -
They found themselves with rooms full of stuff
without being able to look at them. They weren't prepared for it.
And here is another area where they were the pioneers.
They didn't go all the way but they started
to have more control on their products.
Check the album covers.
The appearance of things.
They controlled their equipment.
But not as much as the percentage that we have today.
Apple's problem and the Apple Store
and everything in this building,
was that they had money, they were free,
they had ideas from India, ideas of the Maharishi.
And a bunch of profiteers.
Profiteers who were rather ...
Who were rather talented.
Like Magic Alex.
Who thought it was possible to have a roll of wallpaper with microphones
who would give the best sound?
Magic Alex.
And of all, John was the most convinced of his magical talents.
They were...
We were all naive.
All of this was a new experience.
But I think it was great
they have not been transformed by celebrity.
Everyone who came up with an idea ...
If someone said: -I'm making spilled cream-,
John would have said: -We will eat it at every lunch.-
Anyone could be hired over there.
So it quickly got crowded. Second-rate people ...
Very charming but second-rate.
The same thing happened with the Boutique.
If you designed clothes
which was nothing commercial, so it was for the Boutique.
Everything they touched at that time
seemed non-commercial.
Neil was incredibly conscientious and a deeply good man.
And Peter worked hard.
The office was running smoothly and efficient.
I had an office between Neil's and Peter's.
Neil and Mal were working on the start
from "The Long and Winding Road", memory of a cassette.
At that time, I was busy ...
mail with America.
All journalists asking: -Do you have old pictures?-
It's like that that we have recovered everything.
They were very gifted.
This night, I was heading for Neil's office.
Neil and Mal were by the fire. I will never forget him.
And I had to go over ...
I shouldn't say that.
Over Derek Taylor, who was fucking on the floor
and which prevented me from passing.
The cartoon was making fun a bit of Maharishi.
does that mean that youโre done with him
- and you laugh at him? - We have passed this phase.
It was kind of a phase.
But he's a good man and everyone is fine
but we don't want any more hang out with him.
I knew he was an impostor at first sight.
I thought to myself, -My God.-
One of the problems ... And John was the worst,
because he clung to things.
He clung to things and was easily influenced.
It can be a problem from which they have been protected.
They were locked up in the Beatles for a long time.
They were...
I was like, -This guy is a crook.-
I am on that there is something behind.
Meditation can provide well-being for those who like it.
But I didn't believe it. And I still don't believe it.
The Beatles believed on the spiritual side of things.
And they wanted to spread this.
The Maharishi saw in them
their international celebrity.
They could spread his message.
Originally, their idea was to develop
a school of Transcendental Meditation in London
and the Beatles would have been one of them.
Patti had dreams of the Maharishi
who were showing it in a whole different light.
And ...
And there was a connection to Mia Farrow.
There were a lot of people.
But I think they were miles away
and it was a very different life and he was there,
to meditate six or seven hours in a row,
sometimes at night, sometimes for several days.
And it was completely different
what everyone was used to, especially the Beatles.
In one way, the Maharishi had a bad reputation
but it was rather harmless.
He was a little strange.
Today you couldn't say that.
His character was ridiculous.
And he said things which cannot be answered
like -Love each other- and all that.
It was an extension of hippie philosophy.
Poor Maharishi has learned that his best assets were leaving him
and he sat watching them go
with this man holding an umbrella above him.
He said, -Why are you leaving?-
He really didn't understand.
I know that John had a famous reply ...
I don't remember but he said:
-If you were so cosmic, you should know that. -
And it was over.
CLOSING THE APPLE STORE JULY 1968
The Beatles' brief excursion white"> in the trade is over.
According to them, they are tired of this toy.
I'm all turned upside down. I don't know what I'm doing there.
I've been here for 7 hours and I got pushed around.
Upset by the rush?
I have never seen that.
I'm from Canada and ...
- What clothes are you looking for? - No idea. Everything.
- Anything and everything? - Stylish.
Why are you here?
No idea. Because it's free.
would you have come if it hadn't been free?
It's too expensive for me.
What are you looking for?
Anything and everything. I'm not fashion.
A dress or pants.
would you have come if it hadn't been free?
I've been here before. I bought items.
Not because it's free but because I like this store.
You had to ask yourself
How long was going to last the relationship between the group
and the manager?
Then we had to talk to Yoko Ono
with his growing influence, especially on John.
Then you watched the Beatles like a deal.
Then you think of Allen Klein.
Which sends you back to perpetual evolution
Of the history of this brilliant pop group.
For me ...
it's the ultimate album.
It made so much sense i and it still is.
And it continued, once his time is over.
This is the number one rock album worldwide.
In my eyes, no Beatles album is bad.
They're all brilliant.
But this one is my favorite.
My favorite, because it's the one for which
I attended all the stages.
And he was so revolutionary in its concept and its coverage.
It's my favorite album.
It was huge, because they had the ability
to promote them in an extraordinary way.
And everyone was in their grip.
We were all captivated by the Beatles.
No one has ever criticized anything: their cover was great,
the songs and the presentation too.
For me, it's a miniature masterpiece.
It was a pop symphony with wonderful continuity.
The main stage, the title song at the beginning and at the end.
Everything went perfectly together.
It was an absolute joy.
There is something for every mood in the Beatles.
For posterity, this is the greatest album of all time.
It's impressive.
What other group who disappeared 50 years ago
continues to be listened to by so many generations?
Listen to the album in mono. Don't think about stereo.
The Beatles weren't there during assembly.
They were in India. Where the four of them used to sit,
and listened to everything and took decisions. It was mono.
This is the most important thing to say on Sgt. Pepper.
You have an album and there will be ...
It was years ago.
There were two or three songs throughout the album
that you really like
and the rest of the album ... it was on the album.
And you skipped them when it was still manual.
The Beatles albums were the reverse.
Perhaps a song you liked less
and you loved everyone else.
They seized the moment. They grabbed it.
They were perfect
and they shot everyone like a locomotive.
They pulled everyone with them.
And if they had put
-Penny Lane- and -Strawberry Fields- Sgt. Pepper,
It would have been, literally, the best album of all time.
I contradict myself.
Often, I say to myself: -I can't believe it.-
- Then I say to myself, -Yes, because I knew it would be forever. -
This music is eternal.
It's a great window in an incredible era of change.
If you study the Beatles from any angle,
you study the 60s and you study
the history of the West and its evolution.
But it's endless.
Like people who study Shakespeare for years.
With the Beatles, there is always - -white- a feeling of well-being. -
I said to my friends, -If you are sad, listen to the Beatles. -
It helps you see the world as a better place.
They have beneficial properties.
Four boys, it worked.
-white- And the talent was there.
I think there will never be other Beatles.
It reminds of the Liverpool Echo
and an article by Brian Epstein.
He said, -I think the Beatles will be taller than Elvis. -
Everyone laughed saying:
-How a group from Liverpool coming out of the Cavern scene,
with all that leather and everything, could become
taller than Elvis? -
Elvis is on the other side, in America.
The biggest star in the world.
History has proven that he was right. The largest group of all time.
He had seen something in them.
The Beatles were embarrassed compared to that,
because there were other good bands in Liverpool.
-Bigger than Elvis? Let's see ...-
Brian was right.
Still today, charisma and excitement
caused by the name -Beatles- ...
Not just in Liverpool but worldwide:
Mexico, South America, Japan, Germany, everywhere.
A small island in Samoa ...
You mention the name "Beatles" and it's euphoria.
This is...
This is the legacy they left behind.
Will someone else overtake this heritage?
Only god knows.
It's a sacred heritage.
And it's wonderful to have been a small part of it.
538 DAYS AFTER RELEASE FROM SGT PEPPER,
THE BEATLES ARE GOING OUT A DOUBLE ALBUM CONTAINING
30 NEW SONGS IN AN ALL-WHITE POUCH ...
IT BECOME NUMBER ONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD...
Where's the dog's whistle?
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