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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:03,704 MAN: I had no idea what I would find 2 00:00:03,737 --> 00:00:05,539 when I went searching for my father. 3 00:00:05,573 --> 00:00:08,342 They flashed the Zodiac Killer, and my heart stopped. 4 00:00:08,376 --> 00:00:11,079 WOMAN: He believes he is the son of the Zodiac. 5 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:37,238 - Cook the food. Scrub the floors. 6 00:00:37,271 --> 00:00:39,573 Fold the laundry. 7 00:00:39,607 --> 00:00:43,944 Cook the food! Scrub the floors! 8 00:00:43,977 --> 00:00:46,614 Fold the laundry! 9 00:00:46,647 --> 00:00:49,750 - [ chanting ] This is what a marriage is. 10 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:53,287 This is what a marriage is. 11 00:00:53,321 --> 00:00:56,424 - Where is my drink?! 12 00:00:56,457 --> 00:00:59,693 Do you see my cock? 13 00:00:59,727 --> 00:01:02,930 Where's my tie?! 14 00:01:02,963 --> 00:01:08,936 Can you see my cock?! Ohh! 15 00:01:08,969 --> 00:01:11,439 - Ohh! - Yeah, thanks. Yeah. 16 00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:17,611 - This is what a marriage is. This is what a marriage is! 17 00:01:17,645 --> 00:01:20,781 This is what a marriage is! 18 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:23,617 [ door slams, horns honking ] - This is why they hate us. 19 00:01:23,651 --> 00:01:26,120 - "The Voice" said it was provocative. 20 00:01:26,154 --> 00:01:28,456 - Certainly provoked laughter. - Hey, you don't think 21 00:01:28,489 --> 00:01:29,790 our marriage is a prison, do you? 22 00:01:29,823 --> 00:01:31,625 Because I also "cook the food!" - [ laughs ] 23 00:01:31,659 --> 00:01:35,129 - Isn't marriage by definition prison? 24 00:01:35,163 --> 00:01:36,797 - See what I'm up against? 25 00:01:36,830 --> 00:01:39,133 - Both: This is what a marriage is. 26 00:01:39,167 --> 00:01:41,335 This is what a marriage is. - [ laughs ] 27 00:01:41,369 --> 00:01:43,137 - It's gotta be good research for your book, though. 28 00:01:43,171 --> 00:01:45,139 - How's it coming? - He's almost done. 29 00:01:45,173 --> 00:01:47,175 - Well... - What? You're almost done? 30 00:01:47,208 --> 00:01:48,976 - I still need a good title. 31 00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:51,011 Uh, "Men's Lib" feels derivative. 32 00:01:51,044 --> 00:01:53,147 I was thinking "Wonder Man," like "Wonder Woman," 33 00:01:53,181 --> 00:01:56,484 but also, I wonder how to be a man. 34 00:01:56,517 --> 00:01:57,985 I'm not good with titles. What about you? 35 00:01:58,018 --> 00:01:59,753 You have one for your book? 36 00:01:59,787 --> 00:02:01,989 - Uh, yes. 200 pages of shit. 37 00:02:02,022 --> 00:02:04,525 - I highly doubt that. 38 00:02:04,558 --> 00:02:07,828 - I promised I would have it finished by my 40th birthday. 39 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:09,697 - What do you wanna do to celebrate? 40 00:02:09,730 --> 00:02:12,166 - We should all go on a trip together. 41 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:13,501 - You mean like Saint Martin? 42 00:02:13,534 --> 00:02:15,102 I love that house we went to, right? 43 00:02:15,135 --> 00:02:16,704 - Or maybe south of France. 44 00:02:16,737 --> 00:02:18,272 - Or maybe we could just treat it like any other Tuesday. 45 00:02:18,306 --> 00:02:21,175 - You gotta let us do something. I mean, it's a big milestone. 46 00:02:21,209 --> 00:02:22,843 - If you wanna do something for me, 47 00:02:22,876 --> 00:02:26,514 send me five more states. 48 00:02:26,547 --> 00:02:33,354 *** 49 00:02:33,387 --> 00:02:35,356 - You hold this, hmm? [ camera shutter clicks ] 50 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:38,058 Just like you're working. - Mm. 51 00:02:38,091 --> 00:02:39,360 - Much better. [ camera shutter clicks ] 52 00:02:39,393 --> 00:02:40,961 [ telephone rings in distance ] 53 00:02:40,994 --> 00:02:43,030 So distinguished. 54 00:02:43,063 --> 00:02:45,199 - You look like Rock Hudson. - [ chuckles ] 55 00:02:45,233 --> 00:02:46,900 I guess that makes you Doris Day, honey. 56 00:02:46,934 --> 00:02:50,404 - [ laughs ] Que será, será. Oh, one last thing. 57 00:02:50,438 --> 00:02:51,472 [ camera shutter clicking ] - Oh, it's all right. 58 00:02:51,505 --> 00:02:52,740 No one will notice. 59 00:02:52,773 --> 00:02:54,408 - No, it's too worn for the picture. 60 00:02:54,442 --> 00:02:57,411 - Let me ask you something else. Leaders of the women's movement 61 00:02:57,445 --> 00:02:59,213 claim your wife's arguments against the ERA 62 00:02:59,247 --> 00:03:01,415 are old-fashioned. 63 00:03:01,449 --> 00:03:03,917 Would you characterize your wife as such? 64 00:03:03,951 --> 00:03:05,653 - Uh, not at all. I would classify my wife 65 00:03:05,686 --> 00:03:08,389 as an exceptional woman who has been able to manage 66 00:03:08,422 --> 00:03:10,491 a career at home and her public life. 67 00:03:10,524 --> 00:03:11,992 [ camera shutter clicks ] - How are the kids? 68 00:03:12,025 --> 00:03:14,061 - Oh, Roger's enjoying Princeton. 69 00:03:14,094 --> 00:03:15,396 And Phyl might apply there next year. 70 00:03:15,429 --> 00:03:16,830 - And John? 71 00:03:16,864 --> 00:03:18,432 - He's exploring different paths. 72 00:03:18,466 --> 00:03:19,900 You know young people these days. 73 00:03:19,933 --> 00:03:22,670 But Bruce is studying for the LSATs. 74 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,072 - Oh, following in his father's footsteps. 75 00:03:25,105 --> 00:03:27,007 - If anything, her public life has helped shed light 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,176 on my own causes, uh, namely communism and abortion. 77 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,445 - I think what's missing from this picture 78 00:03:31,479 --> 00:03:32,946 is you, Mrs. Schlafly. 79 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:34,748 - Oh, no, no, no. This is a profile of Fred. 80 00:03:34,782 --> 00:03:36,250 - Yes, but-- - Besides, I wasn't 81 00:03:36,284 --> 00:03:38,118 on the list of, uh, poses. 82 00:03:38,151 --> 00:03:39,453 [ Doris Day's "Que Será, Será" playing ] 83 00:03:39,487 --> 00:03:41,255 I'm in no condition to be photographed. 84 00:03:41,289 --> 00:03:43,624 - With regard to abortion, their efforts 85 00:03:43,657 --> 00:03:45,926 at zero population growth actually help the communists... 86 00:03:45,959 --> 00:03:48,629 * The future's not ours to see 87 00:03:48,662 --> 00:03:52,866 * Que será, será 88 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,703 [ "A Fifth of Beethoven" by Walter Murphy playing ] 89 00:03:55,736 --> 00:04:10,618 *** 90 00:04:10,651 --> 00:04:25,599 *** 91 00:04:25,599 --> 00:04:30,638 *** 92 00:04:30,671 --> 00:04:45,619 *** 93 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:50,658 *** 94 00:04:50,691 --> 00:04:52,626 *** 95 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:03,537 - I'm so sorry I'm late. 96 00:05:03,571 --> 00:05:07,207 My talk ran long, and I couldn't get a taxi. 97 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,376 Nice to meet you in person. - [ chuckles ] It's fine. 98 00:05:08,409 --> 00:05:11,779 - Uh, I hope you started without me. 99 00:05:11,812 --> 00:05:14,615 - He wanted to wait. - I reached out to Ms. Steinem 100 00:05:14,648 --> 00:05:16,717 because when I arrived at Justice, 101 00:05:16,750 --> 00:05:18,552 I discovered there is a massive women's problem 102 00:05:18,586 --> 00:05:20,020 in this country. 103 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:22,022 - Wait, have you heard about Vietnam? 104 00:05:22,055 --> 00:05:24,625 - [ chuckles ] 105 00:05:24,658 --> 00:05:26,560 I would like to start a women's task force, 106 00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:27,961 but I wanna work with movement leaders 107 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:29,463 so we're not at cross purposes. 108 00:05:29,497 --> 00:05:32,065 - Well, off the top of my head, 109 00:05:32,099 --> 00:05:34,301 what about hiring a woman to run it? 110 00:05:34,334 --> 00:05:36,203 - Well, why don't you come on board to advise me? 111 00:05:36,236 --> 00:05:38,539 - Um, would you actually take my advice? 112 00:05:38,572 --> 00:05:41,875 - [ chuckles ] You know, not all Nixon appointees 113 00:05:41,909 --> 00:05:43,977 are corrupt and chauvinistic. 114 00:05:44,011 --> 00:05:46,714 - We've been targeting swing states in the Midwest. 115 00:05:46,747 --> 00:05:48,148 Ohio was a big win. - I'm from Ohio. 116 00:05:48,181 --> 00:05:51,385 - Me, too. Toledo. - Dayton. 117 00:05:51,419 --> 00:05:53,487 What I wouldn't give for a bottle of Vernors right now. 118 00:05:53,521 --> 00:05:56,890 - Schweppes doesn't taste the same. [ laughs ] 119 00:05:56,924 --> 00:05:58,892 - Next, we're making a big push for Illinois. 120 00:05:58,926 --> 00:06:00,994 If we win, it could be a real turning point. 121 00:06:01,028 --> 00:06:03,263 - Phyllis Schlafly's home state. 122 00:06:03,296 --> 00:06:05,766 Boy, she has polarized the hell out of the fight. 123 00:06:05,799 --> 00:06:07,735 You gotta give it to her. That's clever. 124 00:06:07,768 --> 00:06:09,269 - It is. 125 00:06:09,302 --> 00:06:11,939 She's a very clever puppet for special interests. 126 00:06:11,972 --> 00:06:13,907 - Special interests aren't baking all those pies. 127 00:06:13,941 --> 00:06:15,576 - They are paying for the flour. 128 00:06:15,609 --> 00:06:19,246 - What are you doing to neutralize her? 129 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,750 - We wrote an exposé on her in "Ms." Nothing stuck. 130 00:06:22,783 --> 00:06:26,086 - Preaching to the choir. Why don't you debate her? 131 00:06:26,119 --> 00:06:28,021 - [ sighs ] - On television. 132 00:06:28,055 --> 00:06:30,290 - The last thing I want to do is use my profile 133 00:06:30,323 --> 00:06:31,792 to increase her audience. 134 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:33,761 - Besides, you can't reason with women like Phyllis. 135 00:06:33,794 --> 00:06:35,429 They've internalized the patriarchy. 136 00:06:35,463 --> 00:06:38,966 - Mm. Well, perhaps the answer to equality lies in the courts. 137 00:06:38,999 --> 00:06:41,769 - Rulings can be overturned. 138 00:06:41,802 --> 00:06:45,305 Writing an explicit prohibition against sex discrimination 139 00:06:45,338 --> 00:06:48,776 into the Constitution makes it just as unacceptable 140 00:06:48,809 --> 00:06:52,112 as discriminating on the basis of race. 141 00:06:52,145 --> 00:06:55,382 - Hmm. Well, maybe you should debate her, Mrs. Ginsberg. 142 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:59,487 - Oh, no. I don't like the limelight. 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,323 [ MFSB's "TSOP (The Sound of Philadelphia)" playing ] 144 00:07:03,356 --> 00:07:05,626 - I challenge Phyllis Schlafly to debate the issues raised 145 00:07:05,659 --> 00:07:07,127 by the Equal Rights Amendment. 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,229 She's made some outrageous claims. 147 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:10,964 - We should time the debate to take place 148 00:07:10,998 --> 00:07:13,801 right before the vote in Springfield. 149 00:07:13,834 --> 00:07:15,803 - Feels good to go on the offense. 150 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:18,138 - Since she has made it her personal crusade 151 00:07:18,171 --> 00:07:20,574 to keep us all from attaining our full rights 152 00:07:20,608 --> 00:07:21,975 as United States citizens, I think it's important 153 00:07:22,009 --> 00:07:25,513 to demonstrate publicly and legally 154 00:07:25,546 --> 00:07:28,649 that she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about. 155 00:07:28,682 --> 00:07:31,318 How's that? - Perfect. 156 00:07:31,351 --> 00:07:34,321 - Thank you. - Thank you. 157 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:35,989 - You'll drop the "hell." 158 00:07:36,023 --> 00:07:38,992 - Oh, Gloria! 159 00:07:39,026 --> 00:07:41,929 Jules. I took some photos for "Ms." last year. 160 00:07:41,962 --> 00:07:43,764 - Of course. So nice to see you again. 161 00:07:43,797 --> 00:07:45,032 This is my friend Bren-- 162 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:47,167 - Brenda, right? - Mm-hmm. 163 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,335 - You were at the Christmas party. 164 00:07:48,368 --> 00:07:50,103 Are you down here doing a story 165 00:07:50,137 --> 00:07:51,338 about the impeachment proceedings? 166 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:53,173 - We had a meeting at the DOJ. 167 00:07:53,206 --> 00:07:55,208 I'm actually a lawyer for the ACLU. 168 00:07:55,242 --> 00:07:57,110 - Oh. So you were crashing the "Ms." Christmas party. 169 00:07:57,144 --> 00:08:00,113 - No, no, no, I'm one of the founders of "Ms.," 170 00:08:00,147 --> 00:08:01,849 so technically it was legitimate. 171 00:08:01,882 --> 00:08:04,017 - Definitely a lawyer. - Mm-hmm. [ chuckles ] 172 00:08:04,051 --> 00:08:06,386 - How long are you two in town? - Just for the night. 173 00:08:06,419 --> 00:08:08,121 - Have you been to the Dubliner? Just opened. 174 00:08:08,155 --> 00:08:09,690 Great happy hour. 175 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:11,859 - Gloria's in charge of happy hours. 176 00:08:11,892 --> 00:08:14,194 - Stan asked if we could continue our conversation 177 00:08:14,227 --> 00:08:15,696 over dinner tonight. 178 00:08:15,729 --> 00:08:17,865 - Well, I guess we have dinner plans. 179 00:08:17,898 --> 00:08:21,068 - I think he just meant the two of us, but I'll double-check. 180 00:08:21,101 --> 00:08:22,970 [ indistinct conversations ] 181 00:08:23,003 --> 00:08:25,305 - We should get going. 182 00:08:25,338 --> 00:08:27,507 - Next time. - [ chuckles ] 183 00:08:29,577 --> 00:08:31,378 - My brain doesn't work this way. 184 00:08:31,411 --> 00:08:33,313 - It's just a puzzle, and puzzles are games, 185 00:08:33,346 --> 00:08:34,915 and games are fun. 186 00:08:34,948 --> 00:08:36,584 Now that is the transitive property at work. 187 00:08:36,617 --> 00:08:38,251 - Mm. 188 00:08:38,285 --> 00:08:40,387 - Well, you could take the LSAT. 189 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:43,256 A man with solid prospects-- very attractive to a girl. 190 00:08:43,290 --> 00:08:44,758 - Face it, Mother. 191 00:08:44,792 --> 00:08:46,560 None of your children wanna go to law school. 192 00:08:46,594 --> 00:08:48,395 - Well, a law degree is versatile. 193 00:08:48,428 --> 00:08:51,565 No, it's not just for, uh, being a lawyer. 194 00:08:51,599 --> 00:08:54,902 You could, uh, go into politics or business. 195 00:08:54,935 --> 00:08:58,839 Here. Let's take a look at this one. 196 00:08:58,872 --> 00:09:03,911 "Now the number of calories in a gram of refined cane sugar 197 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:05,913 is the same as in an equal amount of fructose--" 198 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:08,281 - I can read myself. - Hmm. 199 00:09:10,784 --> 00:09:13,954 - Uh... [ sighs ] Uh, I don't know. 200 00:09:13,987 --> 00:09:17,090 "B"? "C"? 201 00:09:17,124 --> 00:09:19,259 - Ugh. Don't just say letters. Consider it. 202 00:09:19,292 --> 00:09:22,429 [ papers rustling ] 203 00:09:22,462 --> 00:09:25,432 Uh, I would say..."E." 204 00:09:25,465 --> 00:09:27,100 Since the premise 205 00:09:27,134 --> 00:09:28,936 does not account for the fact that sugar 206 00:09:28,969 --> 00:09:31,271 is not the only ingredient that contains calories. 207 00:09:31,304 --> 00:09:32,606 [ door opens ] Oh! I'm right. 208 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,441 It is "E." [ door closes ] 209 00:09:34,474 --> 00:09:35,776 [ footsteps approach ] 210 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:37,945 You're home early. 211 00:09:37,978 --> 00:09:40,914 - Uh, Linda got an advanced copy of the morning paper. 212 00:09:49,356 --> 00:09:50,958 - Well... 213 00:09:50,991 --> 00:09:52,626 Oh, look, they quote you at length. 214 00:09:52,660 --> 00:09:54,127 - Huh. 215 00:09:54,161 --> 00:09:55,829 - I think you look very handsome in the photo. 216 00:09:55,863 --> 00:09:57,631 - Not bad. - So how does it feel 217 00:09:57,665 --> 00:09:59,299 to be Phyllis Schlafly's lawyer husband? 218 00:09:59,332 --> 00:10:00,668 - [ chuckles ] If you keep studying, 219 00:10:00,701 --> 00:10:03,236 you can be Phyllis Schlafly's lawyer son. 220 00:10:03,270 --> 00:10:04,337 - Mm. - Ah-ah. 221 00:10:04,371 --> 00:10:06,807 - When's dinner? - It's at 6. 222 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,642 - [ sighs ] 223 00:10:08,676 --> 00:10:10,711 - It's always at 6. 224 00:10:13,513 --> 00:10:15,048 Hmm. 225 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:18,351 [ siren wailing ] - Well, when I was at Harvard... 226 00:10:18,385 --> 00:10:19,519 - [ sighs ] Never heard a good story 227 00:10:19,552 --> 00:10:21,154 that begins with "When I was at Harvard..." 228 00:10:21,188 --> 00:10:23,523 - I had the professor that was the inspiration 229 00:10:23,556 --> 00:10:25,693 for "The Paper Chase," and he announced 230 00:10:25,726 --> 00:10:30,363 he would only call on women one day a year--Ladies' Day. 231 00:10:30,397 --> 00:10:32,599 - [ chuckles ] Ladies' Day. - And he would only discuss 232 00:10:32,632 --> 00:10:35,002 cases involving widows and brides. 233 00:10:35,035 --> 00:10:36,704 He didn't think we could handle sparring in a Socratic fashion 234 00:10:36,737 --> 00:10:39,039 without bursting into tears. 235 00:10:39,072 --> 00:10:40,340 - [ chuckles ] Did you ever burst into tears? 236 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:43,010 - Tears of rage. I paid the same tuition. 237 00:10:43,043 --> 00:10:45,178 - Well, why didn't you transfer somewhere else? 238 00:10:45,212 --> 00:10:47,380 - Harvard's the best law school. 239 00:10:51,551 --> 00:10:52,853 - Have you ever been photographed? 240 00:10:52,886 --> 00:10:55,522 - [ chuckles ] 241 00:10:55,555 --> 00:10:58,525 Once for "Glamour" a few years back. 242 00:10:58,558 --> 00:11:00,193 - That makes sense. 243 00:11:00,227 --> 00:11:02,195 You're beautiful. 244 00:11:02,229 --> 00:11:04,364 - No, it was for a profile about the movement. 245 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:06,533 It was just about me and my husband. 246 00:11:06,566 --> 00:11:07,901 - [ scoffs ] That's the third time tonight 247 00:11:07,935 --> 00:11:10,971 you've said "husband." 248 00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:14,041 Why did you change your mind about meeting me out? 249 00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,643 - Well, I felt bad. You're friends with Gloria, 250 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:19,246 and I was very rude. 251 00:11:21,581 --> 00:11:24,584 [ sighs ] 252 00:11:24,617 --> 00:11:26,053 Where are we headed? 253 00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:29,322 - The Watergate. 254 00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,258 Should we break in? 255 00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:36,463 [ footsteps depart ] 256 00:11:38,598 --> 00:11:40,567 - You have to wait. - I thought I was! 257 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,269 - [ laughs ] 258 00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:47,174 Oh, no, I lost my...bracelet. 259 00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:49,309 - Oh. I'll get it. 260 00:11:56,784 --> 00:11:59,920 - Got it! - Shh! What if we get caught? 261 00:11:59,953 --> 00:12:02,422 - Uh...I think it's been established that security 262 00:12:02,455 --> 00:12:04,624 in this building is not great. - [ chuckles ] 263 00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:06,626 Right. - Okay. 264 00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:10,964 I can do it. - Oh. 265 00:12:10,998 --> 00:12:13,133 - I think. 266 00:12:18,171 --> 00:12:20,974 Got it. 267 00:12:21,008 --> 00:12:24,945 [ water splashing ] 268 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:26,113 - [ chuckles ] 269 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:28,615 [ water splashing ] 270 00:12:28,648 --> 00:12:30,317 Wanna see who can hold their breath the longest? 271 00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:31,985 - No. 272 00:12:35,022 --> 00:12:36,523 I wanna kiss you. 273 00:12:44,998 --> 00:12:46,834 - Oh. Oh. 274 00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:48,468 [ Saint-Saens' "The Carnival of the Animals" playing ] 275 00:12:48,501 --> 00:12:49,803 - How's that? 276 00:12:49,837 --> 00:12:50,971 - Oh. - [ chuckles ] 277 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:52,005 - [ chuckles ] - That better? 278 00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,674 - Mm-hmm. 279 00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:59,312 - Gosh, your calves have gotten so strong. 280 00:12:59,346 --> 00:13:01,581 - Well, I ran 12 miles today. 281 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:04,818 - 12? - [ laughs ] 282 00:13:04,852 --> 00:13:06,820 *** 283 00:13:06,854 --> 00:13:09,522 - I don't know what to do about this challenge. 284 00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:11,825 No, it--it's insulting. 285 00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:14,527 Now I'm the leader of the opposition, 286 00:13:14,561 --> 00:13:16,864 and they should send their girl wonder 287 00:13:16,897 --> 00:13:18,765 to debate me, not to-- - I told you. 288 00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,333 Ignore it. 289 00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:22,769 - I've never turned down an invitation to-- 290 00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:24,337 to debate on the ERA, 291 00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:28,008 and they're gonna say I'm scared. 292 00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:32,512 - Scared? I've never even heard of Brenda Fasteau. She's nobody. 293 00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:36,049 - Well, and no, she helped write the amicus brief 294 00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:39,319 for Frontiero v. Richardson. 295 00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,890 She's a lawyer. 296 00:13:42,923 --> 00:13:44,724 Now what if this is some kind of trap, 297 00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:47,027 that, uh, they're trying to humiliate me 298 00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:49,029 that I don't have a law degree? 299 00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:52,032 *** 300 00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,366 - What was the biggest sticking point 301 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,734 between the North and South Vietnamese 302 00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:56,870 during the Paris peace talks? 303 00:13:56,904 --> 00:13:59,406 - The shape of the negotiating table. 304 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,742 - So if you don't like the terms of the debate, 305 00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:04,477 change the shape of the table. 306 00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:05,812 *** 307 00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:09,049 - Mm-hmm? - So you respond 308 00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:11,551 that since the ERA is going to, uh, 309 00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:13,320 destroy the institution of marriage, 310 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:16,223 the debate ought to be between couples. 311 00:14:16,256 --> 00:14:18,892 And that way you can bring your lawyer husband with you 312 00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:21,394 and protect you from her Supreme Court credentials. 313 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,730 *** 314 00:14:23,763 --> 00:14:26,934 - Well, you'd--you'd have to travel with me. 315 00:14:26,967 --> 00:14:29,236 Can you swing that with work? 316 00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:32,772 - It's my law firm. I can do whatever I like. 317 00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,945 - Thank you, Daddy. 318 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:47,254 [ The Seeds' "Can't Seem To Make You Mine" playing ] 319 00:14:47,287 --> 00:14:53,093 *** 320 00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:56,263 * I can't seem to make you mine, oh * 321 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:57,931 - Thank you. 322 00:14:57,965 --> 00:15:01,701 * Kiss and run all the time, oh * 323 00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:04,104 * Flyin' around like a... 324 00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:05,138 - May I help you with something, ma'am? 325 00:15:05,172 --> 00:15:07,107 - I'm here to take the LSAT. 326 00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:09,209 * ...everything that you see 327 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,278 Oh, the registration's under Bruce Schlafly, 328 00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:14,814 but I called, and they said I could take it instead. 329 00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:18,318 * I can't seem to make you mine * 330 00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:20,353 I'm his mother. 331 00:15:24,992 --> 00:15:26,126 - [ laughing ] 332 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:27,660 - You enjoyed yourself. 333 00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:29,729 - [ laughs ] Stop. 334 00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:31,999 - Ohh. [ exhales deeply ] 335 00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:35,668 - [ continues laughing ] - That was incredible. 336 00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:37,670 - Ohh. 337 00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:39,472 - Wow. 338 00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:40,840 - [ exhales deeply ] 339 00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:45,145 - [ kisses ] You're so much more open and... 340 00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:48,148 you let me know everything you wanted. 341 00:15:48,181 --> 00:15:51,518 [ siren wailing, horn honking in distance ] 342 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,855 Did something happen when you were in D.C.? 343 00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:04,064 - No. 344 00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:07,700 - You didn't sleep with someone? 345 00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:11,838 - I would never sleep with another man. You know that. 346 00:16:11,871 --> 00:16:14,241 I would never do that. 347 00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:26,986 - You would never sleep with another... man? 348 00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:32,359 - It was a very spontaneous thing. 349 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:36,563 Gloria had dinner plans, and I had met this photographer 350 00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:39,366 earlier in the day with her named Jules. 351 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:44,637 - Jules. - And I had way too many drinks, 352 00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:48,475 and...and then... 353 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,377 I wasn't not gonna tell you. 354 00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:55,548 I just...haven't. I just didn't tell you yet. 355 00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:58,585 - It's okay. 356 00:17:00,253 --> 00:17:03,223 - It is? - Yes. 357 00:17:03,256 --> 00:17:07,760 - Yeah, it's okay. Come here. Look... [ kisses ] 358 00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,762 If it was another man... [ chuckles ] 359 00:17:09,796 --> 00:17:12,665 that would be something else entirely, but... 360 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:15,935 a woman? I mean... 361 00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,737 that's practically a rite of passage 362 00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,240 for a radical feminist. 363 00:17:20,273 --> 00:17:22,909 - I mean, I've always... 364 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:25,678 wanted to experience sex once with a woman. 365 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:28,081 - Well, now you have. 366 00:17:28,115 --> 00:17:29,616 [ kisses ] 367 00:17:34,487 --> 00:17:36,456 - Well, that's what I thought. - We win Missouri... 368 00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,258 - Well, we've talked about going to Illinois next week. 369 00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:40,593 - Sorry, sorry, sorry. Sorry I'm late. 370 00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:43,263 I have just received an interesting message 371 00:17:43,296 --> 00:17:45,965 from a producer on "The Tomorrow Show." 372 00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:50,470 Tom Snyder has invited Brenda and her husband 373 00:17:50,503 --> 00:17:52,205 to appear on the show in a couples debate 374 00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:54,441 with the Schlaflys. - Huh? 375 00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:55,808 - What? - Oh. 376 00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:58,445 - A couples debate with me and Marc? 377 00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,447 - And Fred and Phyllis, yes. - [ laughs ] 378 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,782 - Apparently she suggested the idea. 379 00:18:02,815 --> 00:18:04,117 - Of course she did, because he's the one 380 00:18:04,151 --> 00:18:06,286 feeding her the lines. It's a trap. 381 00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:07,720 - Maybe she was hoping you weren't married 382 00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:09,889 so she could worm her way out of debating you. 383 00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,958 - Yeah, she likes to paint us all as man-hating lesbians. 384 00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:14,060 Well, the joke's on her. 385 00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,297 You go on TV and look like Barbie's DreamHouse 386 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:19,499 for all of flyover land to see. 387 00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:22,635 - Yes, but if she and Fred beat Marc and Brenda, 388 00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,671 you know, that gives Phyllis a boost in Illinois, 389 00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:27,574 and we have to get Illinois to ratify this year. 390 00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,142 - No, we made a challenge. 391 00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:31,644 She either has to accept it or not. 392 00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:34,080 - I'm not in charge of TV show bookings. 393 00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,082 - The whole point of this was to go on the offensive, 394 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,084 and she's got us playing defense again. 395 00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,353 Now we're trying to prove we're as white, straight, and married 396 00:18:40,387 --> 00:18:41,988 as Phyllis and Mr. Phyllis Schlafly? 397 00:18:42,021 --> 00:18:43,823 What we should do is send a lesbian couple. 398 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,592 - Oh, very funny. - [ scoffs ] Wow. 399 00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,360 - I think that's a good idea. - Oh, look, don't start. 400 00:18:47,394 --> 00:18:48,828 I'm going straight from this meeting 401 00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,931 and meeting with the National Gay Task Force. 402 00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,033 But she happens to have a husband 403 00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,768 who happens to be a magnificent hunk of a man, 404 00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,170 and I'm not going to apologize 405 00:18:57,204 --> 00:18:59,005 that the image of Phyllis Schlafly 406 00:18:59,038 --> 00:19:01,608 eating her words gives me a warm feeling 407 00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:04,211 down in my kishkes. [ laughter ] 408 00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:07,614 Why aren't you more excited? Why isn't she more excited? 409 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:11,284 - It's fine. We'll do the show. 410 00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:14,387 - Good. - Mistake. 411 00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:18,291 - Great. So that's settled. Next on our agenda, we have 412 00:19:18,325 --> 00:19:21,294 gotten a great response... - Everything okay? 413 00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:23,796 - ...to the launch of our Win With Women in '74 campaign. 414 00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,031 - Yeah. - We are making a push 415 00:19:25,064 --> 00:19:26,533 to support women candidates. 416 00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:28,368 - You don't have to do it if you don't want to. 417 00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:29,802 - Of course I wanna do the show. 418 00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:32,572 I'll do anything to win Illinois for us, and so will Marc. 419 00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:34,907 Besides, it'll be great publicity for his book. 420 00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:37,577 [ applause ] - Yes. 421 00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:38,878 [ applause continues ] 422 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:40,213 - Fantastic. 423 00:19:40,247 --> 00:19:43,250 [ Anna Karina's "Roller Girl" playing ] 424 00:19:43,283 --> 00:19:48,755 *** 425 00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:52,725 * Je suis la fille que l'on colle * 426 00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,929 * Sur les Harley Davidson * 427 00:19:56,963 --> 00:20:00,433 * Les B.M. Double V 428 00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:03,169 * Les camions 16 tonnes 429 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,405 * Je suis la roller girl * 430 00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:11,010 * Roll, roll, roll, roller girl, roller girl * 431 00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:13,246 * Roller girl - Jules! 432 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,416 * Roll, roll, roll, roller girl * 433 00:20:16,449 --> 00:20:18,751 * Roller girl 434 00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:20,186 * Roll, roll, roller girl 435 00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:21,288 Nice moves. 436 00:20:21,321 --> 00:20:23,790 - Not bad, huh? - Yeah. 437 00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:26,259 - We're making a goodbye toast to Margaret. 438 00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:28,194 - Where are you going? - San Francisco. 439 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,597 - Not San Francisco. Oakland. 440 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:31,631 *** 441 00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,800 - I haven't told Gloria yet. 442 00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:37,270 The Left Coast is calling me. 443 00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:38,605 - To Margaret. - Whoo! 444 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:41,040 - To Margaret. - Thank you. 445 00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,375 - Mmm. - Mmm. 446 00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:43,610 [ glasses clatter ] 447 00:20:43,643 --> 00:20:45,945 The palm trees and Panthers, 448 00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,280 the Pacific and the poets. 449 00:20:47,314 --> 00:20:48,615 - Earthquakes and Reagan. 450 00:20:48,648 --> 00:20:51,284 - The love-ins and living-out-loud life. 451 00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:53,052 Feels like I'll find my people there. 452 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,054 - Oh, we're not your people? - Yes. 453 00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:57,324 And you're my people, and you're my people. 454 00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,292 I go to NOW meetings on Monday, 455 00:20:59,326 --> 00:21:01,894 National Black Feminist Organization on Tuesday, 456 00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:05,465 Lesbian Alliance on Wednesday, and PTA on Thursday. 457 00:21:05,498 --> 00:21:06,899 It's exhausting. 458 00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:08,568 - Is California any different? 459 00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,803 - See for yourself. Brenda and her husband 460 00:21:10,837 --> 00:21:12,472 are going to be on "The Tomorrow Show" 461 00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:14,341 to debate the Schlaflys about the ERA 462 00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:16,809 because they are the perfect heterosexual couple. 463 00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:17,977 - Ah! 464 00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,146 *** 465 00:21:20,179 --> 00:21:21,581 - [ chuckles ] Just made you come 466 00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,983 in the bathroom three times. There's no windows here. 467 00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:25,485 - [ laughs ] What do you expect, Jules? 468 00:21:25,518 --> 00:21:27,687 She's basically a suburban housewife. 469 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,689 - Don't let them bully you, okay? 470 00:21:29,722 --> 00:21:32,191 I live in Chappaqua with my husband and three boys, 471 00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:35,428 and I teach third grade, and it works for me. 472 00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,497 - We live in the city. 473 00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:39,666 *** 474 00:21:39,699 --> 00:21:42,101 * Roll, roll, roll, roller girl * 475 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,337 * Roller girl 476 00:21:44,371 --> 00:21:48,875 * Roll, roll, roller girl 477 00:21:50,877 --> 00:21:52,679 - How about... [ feedback whines ] 478 00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:54,447 [ amplified voice ] "Eve came from Adam's rib. 479 00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:56,849 It's time to abort women's lib"? 480 00:21:56,883 --> 00:21:59,519 [ feedback whines, indistinct conversations ] 481 00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:03,723 - Um...I say we just stick with "Jam and sham." 482 00:22:03,756 --> 00:22:06,359 - It's just that "abort" is more emotional. 483 00:22:06,393 --> 00:22:08,861 [ telephone rings ] 484 00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:12,031 [ picks up receiver ] - STOP ERA. Rosemary speaking. 485 00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:14,901 - Big mistake putting Rosemary in charge of the bullhorn. 486 00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,737 - Well, I tried to put you in charge. 487 00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:19,071 - I can't speak in front of hundreds of people. 488 00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:20,873 [ doorbell rings ] 489 00:22:20,907 --> 00:22:24,076 How did it go with Bruce's LSATs, by the way? 490 00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:26,078 [ ring ] - Oh. Uh, very well. 491 00:22:26,112 --> 00:22:28,548 - Wonderful. - He wants to go to med school. 492 00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:30,149 [ knock on door ] Yeah, I'll be right back. 493 00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:31,618 - That would be great. 494 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,422 - Oh. Can I help you? 495 00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:38,257 - Is there where a John Schlafly lives? 496 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:41,761 - Oh, he's not at home. May I help you? 497 00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,764 - I found his wallet. 498 00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,735 - Well, I'll make sure he gets it. Thank you. 499 00:22:48,768 --> 00:22:52,405 - He should be more careful with his stuff. 500 00:22:52,439 --> 00:22:55,107 Not everyone's as thoughtful as me. [ chuckles ] 501 00:22:58,277 --> 00:23:00,747 - You know what? You deserve a reward 502 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,883 for your sense of... civic duty. 503 00:23:21,968 --> 00:23:24,303 [ bills rustle ] 504 00:23:24,336 --> 00:23:26,839 Well, that should be enough, right? 505 00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:32,278 [ footsteps depart ] 506 00:23:32,311 --> 00:23:39,886 *** 507 00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,789 - Are you going to Trader Vic's or the Chateau Marmont? 508 00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:46,225 Maybe you'll see some movie stars. 509 00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:50,062 Mom? Are you even listening? 510 00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:52,331 - No, no, it's a-- it's a work trip. 511 00:23:52,364 --> 00:23:54,501 [ footsteps approach ] 512 00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:00,973 [ door closes ] 513 00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:02,942 Right. 514 00:24:07,379 --> 00:24:08,815 - So? 515 00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:11,450 [ hangers clack ] How was the LSAT? 516 00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:15,321 [ sighs ] [ closet door closes ] 517 00:24:15,354 --> 00:24:17,023 What? 518 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,326 - He didn't take it. 519 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,094 - What do you mean, you didn't take it? 520 00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,997 - I had an event at my fraternity. 521 00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:26,666 - He just didn't feel he was ready. 522 00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:29,201 You know how competitive he is. 523 00:24:29,235 --> 00:24:32,338 He can take it next year. - Well, you should be ashamed. 524 00:24:32,371 --> 00:24:34,440 for wasting your mother's time and my money. 525 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,208 - I'll pay you back. 526 00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:40,179 - Well, actually, the money didn't go to waste. 527 00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:43,182 They let me take it instead. [ smacks lips, chuckles ] 528 00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:46,052 - What? - You took Bruce's test? 529 00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:48,020 - Why would you do that? 530 00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:51,691 - Oh! It was a lark. You know me. 531 00:24:51,724 --> 00:24:54,293 I enjoy multiple choice and logic 532 00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:57,864 and those sorts of things. 533 00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,966 - What a pointless thing to do. 534 00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:03,035 - As I said, it was a lark. 535 00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:05,071 - Well, if you didn't want my money to go to waste, 536 00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,706 you should've convinced this one to go instead. 537 00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:08,374 - I don't wanna go into law. 538 00:25:08,407 --> 00:25:10,209 - Well, you wanna do menial work for the rest of your life? 539 00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:11,544 What's wrong with you? 540 00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:13,045 - There's nothing wrong with him. 541 00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:14,380 - Oh, why do you keep protecting him? 542 00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:17,584 - Fred...this is our time as a family... 543 00:25:19,118 --> 00:25:22,088 ...to relax and enjoy our dinner together. 544 00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:27,760 - [ sighs ] 545 00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:32,064 Bless us, O Lord, these thy gifts 546 00:25:32,098 --> 00:25:33,733 which we are about to receive 547 00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:36,603 from thy bounty through Christ, our Lord. 548 00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:41,674 Linda Ronstadt: * Stand on the corner 549 00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,242 - What are you working on? 550 00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:45,845 - An introduction to Marc's book. 551 00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:47,446 Probably the best shot I've got at getting published 552 00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:49,015 before I turn 40. 553 00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,017 - You already published a book. 554 00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:53,019 - "The Beach Book" is not a book. 555 00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,454 - You know... [ sighs ] you're too hard on yourself. 556 00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:58,758 - The dust jackets were made out of sun reflectors. 557 00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,459 [ chuckles ] 558 00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:03,095 *** 559 00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:05,197 - Can I tell you something? 560 00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:07,266 - You're also writing a book? 561 00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:09,268 - [ chuckles ] 562 00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:12,772 Marc told me about Brenda... experimenting. 563 00:26:12,805 --> 00:26:14,273 - What? 564 00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:16,375 - While you two were in D.C., some photographer? 565 00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,445 *** 566 00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:21,814 - She didn't tell me. 567 00:26:21,848 --> 00:26:24,984 - Sounded like it wasn't a big deal. 568 00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:26,485 That man is enlightened, 569 00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,821 'cause it sure as hell wouldn't fly with me. 570 00:26:28,855 --> 00:26:31,658 - Maybe we should rethink planning a vacation with them. 571 00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:33,292 *** 572 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:35,728 - You will find any excuse to not celebrate. 573 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:39,331 - [ sighs ] What's to celebrate? Nothing is going well. 574 00:26:39,365 --> 00:26:44,470 - Hey. If I learned anything from my divorce, 575 00:26:44,503 --> 00:26:47,840 it's to focus on the things you c control 576 00:26:47,874 --> 00:26:50,743 and change that. 577 00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:54,513 - Marlo called. She wants to donate the proceeds 578 00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:56,148 from "Free To Be... You and Me" to Ms. Foundation. 579 00:26:56,182 --> 00:26:58,250 It got me thinking. 580 00:26:58,284 --> 00:27:00,987 I could set up grants to focus on survival issues, 581 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,755 working class women, battered wives, 582 00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,157 focus on marginalized groups. 583 00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:07,026 Maybe you could help me set that up. 584 00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:08,895 - That is a great idea. 585 00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:13,032 Mmm. 586 00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:15,101 - They're taping a "Free To Be... You and Me" 587 00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,670 TV special next week. 588 00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:19,706 Do you think Kerrie and Kyle would enjoy 589 00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:22,842 coming to the studio with me? 590 00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,778 *** 591 00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:28,114 - They would love it. 592 00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,382 - And maybe afterward, 593 00:27:30,416 --> 00:27:34,386 we could get a slice of cake for my birthday. 594 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,857 They like cake, right? 595 00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:41,794 - Kids generally like cake. Yes. 596 00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:43,696 *** 597 00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:46,132 Loggins and Messina: * Do-do, do-do, do-do-do 598 00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:48,634 * Do-do, do-do, do-do-do 599 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,403 * Do-do, do-do, do-do-do [ jet roaring ] 600 00:27:51,437 --> 00:27:54,874 * Do-do, do-do-do 601 00:27:54,907 --> 00:27:56,208 * Hey, little girl, won't you meet me * 602 00:27:56,242 --> 00:27:58,044 * At the schoolyard gate? 603 00:27:58,077 --> 00:28:00,146 *** 604 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,915 * I got backstage passes to the biggest show in town * 605 00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:05,584 * So, honey, don't you make me late * 606 00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:07,386 * If we leave really early and we hurry * 607 00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:10,089 * We can get in with the band, 'cause little Tim Smitty's... * 608 00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:12,558 - If we have time, we should hike up to 609 00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:14,393 the Griffith Park Observatory. 610 00:28:14,426 --> 00:28:16,395 It's where they filmed "Rebel Without a Cause." 611 00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,497 - I think I need to go lie down. 612 00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,734 - Okay, I'm just gonna stop by the concierge and get some maps. 613 00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:23,102 - Thank you. - Thanks. 614 00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:25,071 - Oh, my God. It's them. 615 00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:27,406 *** 616 00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:30,576 - I hate Los Angeles. 617 00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:32,745 - We probably won't move until the summer, 618 00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,581 but I'd like to take a few months to finish my book. 619 00:28:35,614 --> 00:28:38,250 - I didn't know you were writing a book. 620 00:28:38,284 --> 00:28:40,519 - On black feminism. 621 00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:44,256 - Is there anything I can do to entice you to stay? 622 00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:46,959 "Ms." won't be the same without your voice. 623 00:28:46,993 --> 00:28:50,362 - I think we'll be happier in Oakland. 624 00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:52,198 - You're not happy here? 625 00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,500 [ footsteps approach ] 626 00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:01,640 - No, it's just...the schools are better in Oakland. 627 00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:05,311 You probably have to get going. 628 00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:15,988 [ indistinct conversations ] 629 00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:24,630 - Look who's here. 630 00:29:24,663 --> 00:29:27,133 - Children: Hi, Ms. Gloria. - [ chuckles ] 631 00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,668 Hey. 632 00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:31,503 Is something wrong? 633 00:29:31,537 --> 00:29:34,740 - Margaret just quit. 634 00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,909 - I'm sorry. 635 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:38,644 - She's moving to Oakland. 636 00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:41,013 You know, better schools there for her daughter. 637 00:29:41,047 --> 00:29:44,183 - Is that what she told you? 638 00:29:49,555 --> 00:29:52,324 - You excited to see how a television show gets made? 639 00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:56,662 - Oh, yeah. We've been listening to the record all week. 640 00:29:56,695 --> 00:29:58,664 Tell Ms. Gloria what your favorite song is. 641 00:29:58,697 --> 00:30:00,933 - "It's Alright to Cry." 642 00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:03,302 - It's one of my favorite songs, too. 643 00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:08,507 [ toilet flushes, door opens ] 644 00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:09,842 - [ inhales sharply ] 645 00:30:09,876 --> 00:30:11,844 [ door closes ] 646 00:30:11,878 --> 00:30:14,613 [ teeth swishing ] [ footsteps approach ] 647 00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,016 - Hey. What's going on? You okay? 648 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:21,587 - [ sighs ] I think I'm pregnant. 649 00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:30,696 - Uh...we're gonna have a baby? 650 00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:33,699 This is incredible. A baby. [ kisses ] 651 00:30:33,732 --> 00:30:35,968 Oh, my goodness. 652 00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:41,908 Uh...Okay, uh, so look, 653 00:30:41,941 --> 00:30:44,210 we can put the crib in our room for the first few months, 654 00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:46,979 but then we gotta start looking for a 2-bedroom. 655 00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,081 And hey, hey, I know it's scary, 656 00:30:49,115 --> 00:30:51,317 but it's not like we haven't talked about it. 657 00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:52,651 - It's just it's the timing of it. 658 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,921 - Uh-huh. - Are we even ready? 659 00:30:54,954 --> 00:30:56,055 - Hey, but it's never the right time, right? 660 00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:57,723 That's what Ruth and Marty always say. 661 00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,091 - Yeah, but-- - You're worried 662 00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,993 about your career? - [ sniffles ] I don't know! 663 00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:03,795 I don't know what I think because you keep talking. 664 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:08,567 [ exhales deeply ] 665 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,071 - Okay. Okay. 666 00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:13,439 - [ exhales deeply ] 667 00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,212 - Brenda, I'm listening. 668 00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,650 - [ exhales deeply ] 669 00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,287 I slept with Jules again. 670 00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:35,561 - When? 671 00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,432 - She lives in the city. 672 00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:43,502 Uh...and we've been seeing each other. 673 00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:53,545 - I thought you were just looking to experiment. Um... 674 00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:56,315 So are you leaving me for her? 675 00:31:56,348 --> 00:31:59,785 - [ exhales deeply ] No. 676 00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:02,521 Look, can we talk about this later? 677 00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:09,328 - I forgot. We have to go on television 678 00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:10,997 and pretend to be the perfect married couple. 679 00:32:11,030 --> 00:32:12,498 - We don't have to do the show. 680 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:15,801 - We have to go. Everyone's counting on us. 681 00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:17,836 We can smile. We can fake it. 682 00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:21,007 That's apparently what you've been doing anyway. 683 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,509 [ exhales deeply ] 684 00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:27,079 [ footsteps depart ] 685 00:32:27,113 --> 00:32:29,481 [ door opens ] - [ crying softly ] 686 00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:30,516 [ door slams ] 687 00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:37,123 [ indistinct conversations ] 688 00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:51,070 - [ exhales deeply ] 689 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,875 - Did either of you cross paths with Paul Freund 690 00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:58,677 while you were at Harvard? 691 00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:00,279 - We had him for Constitutional Law. 692 00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:02,214 - Oh. He was my classmate. 693 00:33:02,248 --> 00:33:05,017 - And does he know your wife has been citing his article 694 00:33:05,051 --> 00:33:07,386 on the ERA in her testimony before state legislatures? 695 00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:09,121 - Mis-citing. 696 00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:11,357 - We're not in touch. 697 00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:13,092 - I see. 698 00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:17,863 - Do you have children? 699 00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:20,532 - No. - Not yet, no. No. 700 00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:23,469 - You know when I miss Cambridge the most? In the fall. 701 00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,537 - Oh, that foliage. 702 00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:27,373 - Made studying for torts less bleak. 703 00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:29,708 - Yeah. 704 00:33:29,741 --> 00:33:33,379 - First, let me introduce Brenda and Marc Fasteau-- 705 00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:36,415 Brenda Feigen Fasteau is 30 years of age, 706 00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:38,584 and she is a graduate of the Harvard Law School, 707 00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:40,919 the full-time director 708 00:33:40,952 --> 00:33:42,554 of the American Civil Liberties Union's 709 00:33:42,588 --> 00:33:44,256 women's rights project 710 00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:47,593 and a strong advocate of the Equal Rights Amendment. 711 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,562 Her husband is Marc Feigen Fasteau. 712 00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:53,765 He is 31, also a graduate of the Harvard Law School. 713 00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,335 He is a lawyer, uh, and is now putting together a book 714 00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:59,605 about male sexual stereotyping. 715 00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:02,908 On the other side of the issue are Phyllis and Fred Schlafly. 716 00:34:02,941 --> 00:34:05,744 Mrs. Schlafly, a housewife and mother of six, 717 00:34:05,777 --> 00:34:08,680 is the head of STOP ERA, the national organization 718 00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,583 which opposes the Equal Rights Amendment. 719 00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:13,285 Now Mr. Schlafly is a lawyer, 720 00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:15,421 and he strongly supports his wife's efforts. 721 00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:18,857 Now I am told that Mrs. Schlafly ran for the Congress twice 722 00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,359 in the state of Illinois... - That's right. 723 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,261 - ...and lost both times. 724 00:34:22,294 --> 00:34:23,929 She thanked all the people who voted for her, 725 00:34:23,962 --> 00:34:25,431 and her husband thanked 726 00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,433 all the people who did not vote for her. 727 00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:29,535 - Right, Marc, yeah. - I'm Marc. 728 00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,370 - Uh, yes, uh, Tom. Right. 729 00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:34,940 - So the ERA has been ratified by 33 states so far. 730 00:34:34,973 --> 00:34:37,276 Uh, it will have to be ratified by 38 states-- 731 00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,277 - And that's two that have rescinded. 732 00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:39,611 Nebraska and Tennessee are-- 733 00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:40,946 - But states aren't really able to rescind, 734 00:34:40,979 --> 00:34:42,281 so the first thing is to acknowledge the truth, 735 00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:44,450 which is that women are discriminated against. 736 00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:45,884 - Well, I don't acknowledge that at all. 737 00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,986 - Well, then I'll just lay out my version of the truth. 738 00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:50,456 - Before we get into that, I--I'd--I would like to give 739 00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:52,391 Mrs. Schlafly and Mr. Schlafly an opportunity 740 00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,460 to enumerate what they think this amendment means, 741 00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:55,827 and then we'll come over to this side, 742 00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:58,797 and you can say what you and Marc think it means. 743 00:34:58,830 --> 00:34:59,965 Is that okay? - I'll say what I think, 744 00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:01,667 and Marc will say what he thinks. 745 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,137 - Okay, everyone will say what they think. All right? Fine. 746 00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:08,974 Here we go. Mr. Schlafly. - Well, under the ERA, 747 00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:11,977 the poor girls would have to support the family 50%. Now-- 748 00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:13,645 - Oh, but--but wouldn't we be 749 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:14,980 getting something for that, Fred? 750 00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:16,315 - Oh, first, Tom... - We may well perhaps. 751 00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:20,752 - Uh, let me just say, the ERA would, uh, impose 752 00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:23,855 a doctrinaire equality on men and women 753 00:35:23,889 --> 00:35:27,326 and take away from women some of the most important rights 754 00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,661 and privileges they now have by law, 755 00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:31,697 and that's why we think it's a fraud. 756 00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:34,533 - Can you give us an example of what you mean? 757 00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:38,670 - Well, uh, for example, uh, under our current system, 758 00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:41,039 uh, in a case of a breakup of marriage, 759 00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:42,674 the mother gets the children. 760 00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,843 Now, uh, who wants to trade that in 761 00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,779 for a so-called equality whereby each, uh, parent 762 00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:49,381 gets one child? 763 00:35:49,415 --> 00:35:52,184 - The ERA does not say that in the case of divorce, 764 00:35:52,218 --> 00:35:53,952 each parent gets one child. - Oh, yes, it does. 765 00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,055 It says you have to interpret things absolutely equally. 766 00:35:57,088 --> 00:35:59,024 - Well, what if she has one child, would it be cut in half? 767 00:35:59,057 --> 00:36:01,693 - Oh, well, you-- you can joke all you want. 768 00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:04,696 I mean, the courts, uh, would decide, as they did, 769 00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:07,366 uh, with a recent Washington, D.C., case, 770 00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,035 where three children were given to the father, 771 00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:12,204 and the mother had to pay child support. 772 00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:13,805 - What was the name of the case? - It's crazy to say that was 773 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:17,876 an advance for women, but the-- the larger issue is that the ERA 774 00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:20,212 erodes the institution of marriage, not just divorce-- 775 00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:21,913 - Cite the case. - The case? 776 00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:23,249 Well, I'd have to look it up, but the point is-- 777 00:36:23,282 --> 00:36:25,050 - You don't know the name of the case? 778 00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:26,151 - Well, there's so many cases. 779 00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:27,553 We don't have time to cite them all. 780 00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:28,754 - Just cite the one case. - We don't have time 781 00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,422 to cite them all. - Just name this one case. 782 00:36:30,456 --> 00:36:32,424 - The point is, if everything must be equal, 783 00:36:32,458 --> 00:36:34,826 then the logical extension of the ERA 784 00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:36,428 is that we would have a gender-neutral society... 785 00:36:36,462 --> 00:36:37,829 or homosexuals will have... - You have scared the women 786 00:36:37,863 --> 00:36:39,164 of America into believing something that is not based 787 00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,600 in reality, but when you argue an actual point 788 00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:43,402 in the real world in a court of law, 789 00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:44,936 you need to cite a case to support your argument, 790 00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:46,938 so cite the case. 791 00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:52,911 - Well, I think it was Foley vs. Langham or Lancaster. 792 00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,413 Something like that. 793 00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:57,416 - No, there is no such case. - Oh, yes, there is. 794 00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:59,084 But you see-- - Did you just make up a case? 795 00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:02,120 - I'm not a lawyer. No. I'm the wife of a lawyer, and I really 796 00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:03,455 do think that's more fun, and I get tired of the feminists... 797 00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:04,923 - Well, listen, I doubt we're gonna get to agree 798 00:37:04,956 --> 00:37:05,857 on this at all, so we should just move on. 799 00:37:05,891 --> 00:37:07,426 - There is no disagreeing on fact. 800 00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:08,794 The fact is there is no Foley vs. Langham case. 801 00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,430 Also a fact is that you are not really a housewife. 802 00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:14,199 You are a full-time lobbyist working to defeat the ERA 803 00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:17,135 so that businessmen can continue to make millions of dollars... 804 00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:18,370 - Oh, no, no, no, no. 805 00:37:18,404 --> 00:37:19,605 - ...discriminating against women 806 00:37:19,638 --> 00:37:21,139 when they work, when they buy insurance, 807 00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:23,309 and when they give birth. - No, well, I don't work 808 00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:24,976 for anyone. The majority of the money-- 809 00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:26,111 - Oh, great, so you're a patsy. Well, maybe you should stick 810 00:37:26,144 --> 00:37:27,446 to baking and leave interpreting the law 811 00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:29,315 to the lawyers. - [ laughs ] 812 00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:33,319 - Okay. You both have some opinionated wives, 813 00:37:33,352 --> 00:37:36,221 but seriously, let's bring the fellas in on this 814 00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,656 and have them get a word in. 815 00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:40,892 Marc, you are in what you call an equal marriage. 816 00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:42,628 So let me ask you this. 817 00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:45,631 Who wears the pants in your family? 818 00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,999 - Well, we both do. Uh, Brenda looks much better in them 819 00:37:48,033 --> 00:37:50,302 than I do. [ chuckles ] 820 00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:53,171 - But, um, our marriage was-- was really forged 821 00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:55,907 in the crucible of feminism, so we don't have assigned roles. 822 00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:57,309 - And, Fred, how about you? 823 00:37:57,343 --> 00:37:59,311 Well, your wife has a very strong and-- 824 00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:01,480 and dominant kind of style. 825 00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:02,648 She wear the pants in your family? 826 00:38:02,681 --> 00:38:04,650 - Oh. No, she doesn't. 827 00:38:04,683 --> 00:38:08,987 Uh, I'm obviously physically larger than she is. 828 00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:11,990 - Yeah, well, he chins himself 25 times every morning. 829 00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:15,994 - And, uh, she's very, uh, submissive. 830 00:38:16,027 --> 00:38:17,663 - Sub-submissive? - Oh! 831 00:38:17,696 --> 00:38:20,932 - Wait. Phyllis Schlafly submissive? 832 00:38:20,966 --> 00:38:23,602 I just--I... Well, I can't even, uh... 833 00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:26,372 - [ chuckles ] - Is that right? 834 00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,541 - Well, um, Fred's the boss of the family, 835 00:38:29,575 --> 00:38:32,544 and, um... 836 00:38:32,578 --> 00:38:36,515 - Oh. All right. Well, speaking of submissive, 837 00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:38,216 we've got some bills to pay here, so... 838 00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:53,198 *** 839 00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:58,303 *** 840 00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:01,039 - And what was that all about? - I don't like your tone. 841 00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:03,141 - You hung me out to dry! 842 00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,376 - You made up a case, and I couldn't defend you 843 00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:05,877 without looking foolish. 844 00:39:05,911 --> 00:39:08,213 - Well, you could've jumped in earlier. 845 00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:10,416 - If you had stopped talking... - Oh, no, no, no. 846 00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:13,218 You just sat there. Why do you think-- 847 00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:15,454 - What? - I brought you. 848 00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:19,057 - That LSAT wasn't a lark, was it? 849 00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,659 You're applying to law school. 850 00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:23,595 - Is that such a crazy idea? - Yes! Absolutely crazy. 851 00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:25,497 - No, you don't think I could get in. 852 00:39:25,531 --> 00:39:27,399 - It's not a matter of whether you could get in. 853 00:39:27,433 --> 00:39:30,502 - I have raised six children. They're almost all grown-- 854 00:39:30,536 --> 00:39:32,137 - You are too old. 855 00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:37,108 Who applies to law school at 50? 856 00:39:37,142 --> 00:39:38,610 - You can't stop me from going. 857 00:39:38,644 --> 00:39:41,413 - Well, who's going to pay for it? 858 00:39:41,447 --> 00:39:44,950 I have let you run around this country with your cause. 859 00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:47,018 - It's our cause, Fred. It's our cause. 860 00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:50,288 - I... am the lawyer in the family. 861 00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:53,892 - Don't worry. I'm not looking to practice estate law! 862 00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:02,300 - You made a sacred promise to me when we were married, 863 00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,935 or have you forgotten? 864 00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,837 - I've not forgotten. 865 00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,274 But you can't blame me if you didn't do more 866 00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:12,143 with your law degree to save our country. 867 00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:20,452 Where are you going? 868 00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:23,655 - I don't need to explain myself to you. 869 00:40:27,593 --> 00:40:29,294 - [ sighs ] 870 00:40:29,327 --> 00:40:30,529 [ inhales sharply ] 871 00:40:33,699 --> 00:40:35,366 [ exhales deeply ] 872 00:40:41,507 --> 00:40:42,874 [ exhales deeply ] 873 00:40:50,616 --> 00:40:52,250 - God, that was tremendous. 874 00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:56,588 - You were pretty amazing. 875 00:40:56,622 --> 00:40:59,791 - Thank you. Thank you. We make a great team. 876 00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:05,564 Are you in love with her? 877 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:12,037 - I don't even know if I like her. 878 00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:21,179 I'm sorry I lied to you. 879 00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:23,949 I'm sorry. I'm... 880 00:41:23,982 --> 00:41:30,188 I'm confused, and...um... 881 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:31,489 - What? 882 00:41:42,267 --> 00:41:44,903 - [ voice breaking ] I really love being with a woman. 883 00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:54,245 - More than me? 884 00:41:54,279 --> 00:41:58,283 - I could never love anyone more than you. [ cries ] 885 00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,890 What do we do? 886 00:42:04,923 --> 00:42:07,425 - What if you didn't have to be this or that? 887 00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:09,227 I mean, what if there's another way? 888 00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,897 Isn't it the whole point of living a radical life? 889 00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:14,766 - [ sniffles ] Until you bring a child into it. 890 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,002 - Says who? 891 00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:18,604 We've always played by our own rules. 892 00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:24,275 We can choose to build our family however we want. 893 00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:33,852 - I think it's, uh, uh, 894 00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:35,453 Foley vs. Langham or Lancaster, 895 00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:37,255 something like that. - No, there is no such case. 896 00:42:37,288 --> 00:42:39,958 - Oh, yes, there is, but you see-- 897 00:42:39,991 --> 00:42:41,593 - Did you just make up a case? - I'm not a lawyer, no. 898 00:42:41,627 --> 00:42:44,095 I'm the wife of a lawyer, and I really do think 899 00:42:44,129 --> 00:42:46,364 that's more fun-- - Listen, I doubt we're 900 00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,699 gonna get to agree on this at all... 901 00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,435 [ all speaking at once ] - Just look at her face. 902 00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:52,537 She's dying inside. 903 00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,272 [ lighter clicks ] 904 00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:56,608 [ Phyllis continues indistinctly ] 905 00:42:56,642 --> 00:43:00,045 - It would help if your friend cracked a smile. She's winning. 906 00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:02,714 - ...discriminating against women when they work, 907 00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:04,816 when they buy insurance, and when they give birth. 908 00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:06,117 - No, well, I don't work for anyone. 909 00:43:06,151 --> 00:43:07,786 - Oh, great, so you're a patsy. 910 00:43:07,819 --> 00:43:09,054 Well, maybe you should stick to baking 911 00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:10,321 and leave interpreting the laws to the lawyers. 912 00:43:10,355 --> 00:43:12,457 - [ laughs ] - [ exhales deeply ] 913 00:43:12,490 --> 00:43:15,160 [ coughing ] - ...opinionated wives. 914 00:43:15,193 --> 00:43:18,997 But, seriously, let's bring the fellas in on this. 915 00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:23,468 [ Tom Snyder continues indistinctly ] 916 00:43:23,501 --> 00:43:26,972 - You're not gonna add your name to my FBI file? 917 00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:29,841 - Well, we both do. Uh... 918 00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:33,144 - I never traveled to Cuba as part of the Venceremos Brigade, 919 00:43:33,178 --> 00:43:34,980 by the way. 920 00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:38,016 - [ chuckles ] When did you go through it? 921 00:43:38,049 --> 00:43:41,586 - When I sent you out to get coffee for me. 922 00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:43,421 - Right. - [ chuckles ] 923 00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:45,090 You should be more careful. 924 00:43:45,123 --> 00:43:48,860 - [ chuckles ] 925 00:43:48,894 --> 00:43:52,664 - I would like to go to Cuba one day. 926 00:43:52,698 --> 00:43:54,365 - I'll take you. 927 00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:56,201 - This is a one-time thing. 928 00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:59,004 - Oh! Okay. 929 00:43:59,037 --> 00:44:00,772 Sure. 930 00:44:00,806 --> 00:44:04,009 You're still gonna be my advisor, though, right? 931 00:44:04,042 --> 00:44:05,844 - Phyllis Schlafly, submissive? 932 00:44:05,877 --> 00:44:07,679 - I don't have time to consult 933 00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:09,848 with some man's women's task force. 934 00:44:09,881 --> 00:44:13,518 - Right. Sure. 935 00:44:13,551 --> 00:44:18,189 [ playing Chopin's "Étude Op. 10, No. 3" ] 936 00:44:18,223 --> 00:44:20,358 *** 937 00:44:20,391 --> 00:44:21,693 - Sounds beautiful. 938 00:44:21,727 --> 00:44:23,361 [ stops playing ] 939 00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:25,363 - How was California? 940 00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:29,567 - Your father's cross with me... 941 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,871 for taking the LSAT. 942 00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:35,206 Doesn't want me to go to law school. 943 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,242 - It's the one thing left that's all his. 944 00:44:44,249 --> 00:44:47,986 - Did I ever tell you the story about how I quit smoking? 945 00:44:48,019 --> 00:44:49,654 - I didn't even know you smoked. 946 00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:52,724 - Oh, yes, I was a pack a day, 947 00:44:52,758 --> 00:44:55,226 and your father hated the habit. 948 00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,595 He thought it wasn't, uh, ladylike. 949 00:44:57,628 --> 00:44:59,664 [ chuckles ] Well, he was right. 950 00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:04,836 And, uh, he gave me a car as a wedding present, 951 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:08,506 and of course, I didn't have a gift for him, 952 00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:13,745 so...I decided to give up smoking. 953 00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:19,050 And the day of our wedding, I smoked my last cigarette. 954 00:45:22,788 --> 00:45:26,424 Now was it hard to quit cold turkey? 955 00:45:26,457 --> 00:45:28,093 Very. 956 00:45:28,126 --> 00:45:30,929 And do I have to force myself 957 00:45:30,962 --> 00:45:34,265 to resist the seduction of cigarettes? 958 00:45:34,299 --> 00:45:37,002 Every single day. 959 00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:43,942 But the mind is stronger than the body. 960 00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,478 You just have to exercise willpower. 961 00:45:53,484 --> 00:45:56,788 Now did you, uh, get your wallet? 962 00:45:56,822 --> 00:45:58,156 - Yes. - Mm-hmm. 963 00:45:58,189 --> 00:45:59,825 - I saw it, thank you. 964 00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:03,728 - Must have, uh, fallen out on the floor in the mudroom. 965 00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:06,798 I found it, and I left it on your dresser. 966 00:46:06,832 --> 00:46:09,267 [ sighs ] 967 00:46:13,004 --> 00:46:16,507 You have to be more careful, John. 968 00:46:18,877 --> 00:46:20,445 - I will. 969 00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:32,523 - I had such trouble conceiving after you were born. 970 00:46:37,195 --> 00:46:40,966 I thought maybe you might be my only one. 971 00:46:48,206 --> 00:46:51,176 Now I'll need some help with my jingles 972 00:46:51,209 --> 00:46:54,946 for my rally. 973 00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:56,181 - Girls are tired of the old ones? 974 00:46:56,214 --> 00:46:58,683 - Hmm. 975 00:46:58,716 --> 00:47:00,118 - What rhymes with "alimony"? 976 00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:03,421 - [ chuckles ] 977 00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:08,426 [ playing intro to Joplin's "The Entertainer" ] 978 00:47:10,228 --> 00:47:18,736 *** 979 00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:19,804 [ door closes ] 980 00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:22,573 [ typewriter keys clacking ] 981 00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:32,383 - Good to see you, Phyllis. 982 00:47:32,417 --> 00:47:35,153 - You're in here? - I know. 983 00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,655 Hard to believe. 984 00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:39,424 Senior partner. 985 00:47:39,457 --> 00:47:43,461 Uh, Fred's just down the hall. I can take you if you'd like. 986 00:47:44,762 --> 00:47:46,264 - I can find it, thank you. 987 00:48:09,554 --> 00:48:11,589 - Mazel Tov. - Hey. 988 00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:14,292 - Honey. - Thank you. 989 00:48:14,325 --> 00:48:15,426 [ laughs ] - Thank you. 990 00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:16,962 - Congratulations. [ glasses clink ] 991 00:48:16,995 --> 00:48:18,363 - Yay. 992 00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:20,365 - We wanted to ask you... 993 00:48:20,398 --> 00:48:23,434 - Uh-huh. - ...something important. 994 00:48:23,468 --> 00:48:25,937 Will you please be the godparents? 995 00:48:25,971 --> 00:48:29,440 - We'd be honored. - All right. 996 00:48:29,474 --> 00:48:31,376 All right! Come on! - [ laughs ] 997 00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:33,378 - As long as it doesn't involve changing any diapers. 998 00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:34,212 - No. - [ laughs ] 999 00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:35,880 - Yes. - Big year. 1000 00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:37,615 [ laughter ] Yeah. 1001 00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:39,784 - It's a big year, birthing a book and a baby. 1002 00:48:39,817 --> 00:48:42,787 - Oh, well, the baby was considerably less work 1003 00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,956 and infinitely more fun to create. 1004 00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:46,624 Did Frank tell you? 1005 00:48:46,657 --> 00:48:48,059 He came up with the perfect title for the book-- 1006 00:48:48,093 --> 00:48:50,895 "The Male Machine." - Huh. 1007 00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:52,297 [ Psychedelic Soul Crew's "Can't Let Go" playing ] 1008 00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:54,665 Well...can't come soon enough. 1009 00:48:54,699 --> 00:48:56,734 We should send it as a Christmas gift 1010 00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:58,669 to every chauvinist legislator in Illinois 1011 00:48:58,703 --> 00:49:00,138 that voted against us. 1012 00:49:00,171 --> 00:49:01,572 - We'll get it done next year. 1013 00:49:01,606 --> 00:49:03,975 We should start talking about raising money now. 1014 00:49:04,009 --> 00:49:05,977 [ bell dings ] Dessert's ready. 1015 00:49:06,011 --> 00:49:08,980 - [ chuckles ] Let me help you. 1016 00:49:09,014 --> 00:49:10,982 * Can't let go [ clink ] 1017 00:49:11,016 --> 00:49:14,219 - Here. I got you something. 1018 00:49:27,032 --> 00:49:30,168 - My, uh...my old one works just fine. 1019 00:49:30,201 --> 00:49:32,037 - I stopped by the office to give it to you, 1020 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:36,574 but you...you weren't there. 1021 00:49:39,877 --> 00:49:41,379 - Thank you. 1022 00:49:41,412 --> 00:49:48,386 - So if it's okay, I might have this one. 1023 00:49:48,419 --> 00:49:51,022 I did very well on the LSATs, 1024 00:49:51,056 --> 00:49:56,127 and I have decided to apply to Wash U. 1025 00:49:56,161 --> 00:49:57,528 Now it's close enough 1026 00:49:57,562 --> 00:49:59,197 that I'll be home every night for dinner. 1027 00:49:59,230 --> 00:50:01,966 [ latches click ] 1028 00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,734 - You really don't need to work this hard. 1029 00:50:03,768 --> 00:50:06,037 [ latches click ] 1030 00:50:06,071 --> 00:50:08,906 Lots of people don't want the ERA to go through. 1031 00:50:08,939 --> 00:50:11,076 They won't let you fail. 1032 00:50:12,910 --> 00:50:18,149 *** 1033 00:50:18,183 --> 00:50:19,917 [ TV turns on ] 1034 00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:22,753 - ...one young man on our team to maybe win the championship... 1035 00:50:22,787 --> 00:50:25,590 [ man on TV continues indistinctly ] 1036 00:50:25,623 --> 00:50:34,099 *** 1037 00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:37,402 - We're so excited to start a family. 1038 00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:41,772 [ faucet turns off ] That sounds boring to you, 1039 00:50:41,806 --> 00:50:47,378 but...I think maybe I'm more conventional than I thought. 1040 00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:52,083 I've always wanted to be a mother. 1041 00:50:52,117 --> 00:50:57,388 - You're going to be a wonderful mother. 1042 00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:01,192 [ dish clatters ] 1043 00:51:01,226 --> 00:51:03,794 [ scrubbing dish ] 1044 00:51:03,828 --> 00:51:07,365 I was thinking about hiring Jules to do a photo shoot 1045 00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:09,600 for our next cover. 1046 00:51:09,634 --> 00:51:12,970 I wanted to check with you first if that was okay. 1047 00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:16,474 - Of course. Of course. 1048 00:51:16,507 --> 00:51:20,145 - Why didn't you tell me? 1049 00:51:20,178 --> 00:51:23,614 - It was just a phase. It's not who I am. 1050 00:51:23,648 --> 00:51:27,885 - It's okay if it is. 1051 00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,821 - What are you--are you gonna call a press conference, 1052 00:51:30,855 --> 00:51:34,959 sit beside me and declare, "We are all lesbians"? 1053 00:51:34,992 --> 00:51:38,296 Where's Kate Millett now? 1054 00:51:38,329 --> 00:51:41,166 [ TV playing indistinctly ] 1055 00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:53,311 We should coordinate our fundraising trips 1056 00:51:53,344 --> 00:51:55,045 with Marc's book stops. 1057 00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:00,318 - [ sighs ] I might take a step back 1058 00:52:00,351 --> 00:52:06,157 from the public speaking and... [ sighs ] organizing. 1059 00:52:06,191 --> 00:52:09,026 I wanna get back into my writing, 1060 00:52:09,059 --> 00:52:11,196 finish my book. 1061 00:52:11,229 --> 00:52:13,030 [ carousel music playing ] 1062 00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:15,333 - Hey, it's starting. 1063 00:52:15,366 --> 00:52:20,171 *** 1064 00:52:20,205 --> 00:52:23,174 * There's a land that I see 1065 00:52:23,208 --> 00:52:26,277 * Where the children are free 1066 00:52:26,311 --> 00:52:29,214 * And I say it ain't far 1067 00:52:29,247 --> 00:52:32,450 * To this land from where we are * 1068 00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:35,186 * Take my hand, come with me 1069 00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:38,523 * Where the children are free 1070 00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:41,692 * Come with me, take my hand 1071 00:52:41,726 --> 00:52:44,895 * And we'll live 1072 00:52:44,929 --> 00:52:48,199 * In a land where the river runs free * 1073 00:52:48,233 --> 00:52:50,801 * In a land through the green country * 1074 00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:54,071 * In a land to a shining sea 1075 00:52:54,104 --> 00:52:56,907 * In a land where the horses run free * 1076 00:52:56,941 --> 00:53:00,745 * And you and me are free to be * 1077 00:53:00,778 --> 00:53:02,747 * You and me 1078 00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:09,887 *** 1079 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,557 * Every boy in this land 1080 00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:15,893 * Grows to be his own man 1081 00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:18,929 * In this land, every girl 1082 00:53:18,963 --> 00:53:22,099 * Grows to be her own woman 1083 00:53:22,132 --> 00:53:25,403 * Take my hand, come with me 1084 00:53:25,436 --> 00:53:28,239 * Where the children are free 1085 00:53:28,273 --> 00:53:31,242 * Come with me, take my hand 1086 00:53:31,276 --> 00:53:34,579 * And we'll run 1087 00:53:34,612 --> 00:53:37,682 * To a land where the river runs free * 1088 00:53:37,715 --> 00:53:40,585 * To a land through the green country * 1089 00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:43,621 * To a land where the children are free * 1090 00:53:43,654 --> 00:53:47,191 * And you and me are free to be * 1091 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:49,627 * You and me 1092 00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,142 Our women do not consider themselves 1093 00:54:05,175 --> 00:54:06,844 enslaved by marriage. 1094 00:54:09,447 --> 00:54:14,719 And they certainly do not want to sacrifice their present privileges 1095 00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:17,355 for some phony equality with men. 1096 00:54:25,596 --> 00:54:26,631 What is Devs? 1097 00:54:28,866 --> 00:54:30,301 What is Devs? 1098 00:54:30,335 --> 00:54:31,436 What is Devs? 1099 00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:34,639 What is Devs? 1100 00:54:34,672 --> 00:54:35,606 (horn honks) 1101 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,507 What is Devs? 1102 00:54:37,207 --> 00:54:38,476 What is Devs? 1103 00:54:39,444 --> 00:54:40,478 What is Devs? 1104 00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:57,294 GUILLERMO: The journey was perilous, 1105 00:54:57,328 --> 00:55:00,998 but Nandor the Relentless stood tall and proud. 1106 00:55:01,031 --> 00:55:05,503 Thus, the noble vampire set sail to conquer the new world 1107 00:55:05,536 --> 00:55:07,838 for the greater glory of the undead. 1108 00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:11,208 -Does my hair really look that billowy? -(wind blows) 1109 00:55:11,241 --> 00:55:12,843 Looks fantastic. 1110 00:55:12,877 --> 00:55:15,312 I'd never wear anything like that. 1111 00:55:16,481 --> 00:55:18,849 (retching) 1112 00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:23,788 (gagging, coughing) 1113 00:55:23,821 --> 00:55:24,822 (squeaks) 82784

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