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MAN: I had no idea
what I would find
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when I went searching
for my father.
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They flashed the Zodiac Killer,
and my heart stopped.
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WOMAN: He believes
he is the son of the Zodiac.
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- Cook the food.
Scrub the floors.
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Fold the laundry.
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Cook the food!
Scrub the floors!
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Fold the laundry!
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- [ chanting ]
This is what a marriage is.
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This is what a marriage is.
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- Where is my drink?!
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Do you see my cock?
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Where's my tie?!
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Can you see my cock?! Ohh!
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- Ohh!
- Yeah, thanks. Yeah.
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- This is what a marriage is.
This is what a marriage is!
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This is what a marriage is!
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[ door slams, horns honking ]
- This is why they hate us.
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- "The Voice" said
it was provocative.
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- Certainly provoked laughter.
- Hey, you don't think
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our marriage is a prison,
do you?
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Because I also "cook the food!"
- [ laughs ]
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- Isn't marriage by definition
prison?
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- See what I'm up against?
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- Both:
This is what a marriage is.
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This is what a marriage is.
- [ laughs ]
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- It's gotta be good research
for your book, though.
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- How's it coming?
- He's almost done.
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- Well...
- What? You're almost done?
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- I still need a good title.
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Uh, "Men's Lib"
feels derivative.
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I was thinking "Wonder Man,"
like "Wonder Woman,"
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but also,
I wonder how to be a man.
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I'm not good with titles.
What about you?
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You have one for your book?
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- Uh, yes. 200 pages of shit.
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- I highly doubt that.
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- I promised I would have it
finished by my 40th birthday.
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- What do you wanna do
to celebrate?
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- We should all go
on a trip together.
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- You mean like Saint Martin?
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I love that house we went to,
right?
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- Or maybe south of France.
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- Or maybe we could just treat
it like any other Tuesday.
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- You gotta let us do something.
I mean, it's a big milestone.
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- If you wanna do something
for me,
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send me five more states.
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***
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- You hold this, hmm?
[ camera shutter clicks ]
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Just like you're working.
- Mm.
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- Much better.
[ camera shutter clicks ]
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[ telephone rings in distance ]
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So distinguished.
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- You look like Rock Hudson.
- [ chuckles ]
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I guess that makes you
Doris Day, honey.
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- [ laughs ] Que será, será.
Oh, one last thing.
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[ camera shutter clicking ]
- Oh, it's all right.
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No one will notice.
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- No, it's too worn
for the picture.
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- Let me ask you something else.
Leaders of the women's movement
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claim your wife's arguments
against the ERA
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are old-fashioned.
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Would you characterize
your wife as such?
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- Uh, not at all.
I would classify my wife
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as an exceptional woman
who has been able to manage
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a career at home
and her public life.
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[ camera shutter clicks ]
- How are the kids?
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- Oh, Roger's enjoying
Princeton.
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And Phyl might apply there
next year.
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- And John?
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- He's exploring
different paths.
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You know young people
these days.
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But Bruce is studying
for the LSATs.
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- Oh, following
in his father's footsteps.
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- If anything, her public life
has helped shed light
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on my own causes, uh,
namely communism and abortion.
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- I think what's missing
from this picture
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is you, Mrs. Schlafly.
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- Oh, no, no, no.
This is a profile of Fred.
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- Yes, but--
- Besides, I wasn't
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on the list of, uh, poses.
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[ Doris Day's "Que Será, Será"
playing ]
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I'm in no condition
to be photographed.
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- With regard to abortion,
their efforts
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at zero population growth
actually help the communists...
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* The future's not ours to see
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* Que será, será
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[ "A Fifth of Beethoven"
by Walter Murphy playing ]
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***
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***
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***
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***
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***
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***
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- I'm so sorry I'm late.
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My talk ran long,
and I couldn't get a taxi.
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Nice to meet you in person.
- [ chuckles ] It's fine.
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- Uh, I hope you started
without me.
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- He wanted to wait.
- I reached out to Ms. Steinem
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because when I arrived
at Justice,
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I discovered there is
a massive women's problem
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in this country.
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- Wait, have you heard
about Vietnam?
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- [ chuckles ]
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I would like
to start a women's task force,
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but I wanna work
with movement leaders
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so we're not at cross purposes.
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- Well, off the top of my head,
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what about hiring a woman
to run it?
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- Well, why don't you come
on board to advise me?
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- Um, would you actually
take my advice?
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- [ chuckles ] You know,
not all Nixon appointees
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are corrupt and chauvinistic.
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- We've been targeting
swing states in the Midwest.
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Ohio was a big win.
- I'm from Ohio.
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- Me, too. Toledo.
- Dayton.
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What I wouldn't give for
a bottle of Vernors right now.
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- Schweppes doesn't taste
the same. [ laughs ]
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- Next, we're making a big push
for Illinois.
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If we win, it could be
a real turning point.
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- Phyllis Schlafly's home state.
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Boy, she has polarized
the hell out of the fight.
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You gotta give it to her.
That's clever.
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- It is.
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She's a very clever puppet
for special interests.
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- Special interests aren't
baking all those pies.
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- They are paying for the flour.
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- What are you doing
to neutralize her?
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- We wrote an exposé on her
in "Ms." Nothing stuck.
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- Preaching to the choir.
Why don't you debate her?
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- [ sighs ]
- On television.
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- The last thing I want to do
is use my profile
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to increase her audience.
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- Besides, you can't reason
with women like Phyllis.
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They've internalized
the patriarchy.
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- Mm. Well, perhaps the answer
to equality lies in the courts.
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- Rulings can be overturned.
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Writing an explicit prohibition
against sex discrimination
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into the Constitution
makes it just as unacceptable
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as discriminating
on the basis of race.
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- Hmm. Well, maybe you should
debate her, Mrs. Ginsberg.
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- Oh, no.
I don't like the limelight.
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[ MFSB's "TSOP (The Sound
of Philadelphia)" playing ]
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- I challenge Phyllis Schlafly
to debate the issues raised
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by the Equal Rights Amendment.
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She's made
some outrageous claims.
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- We should time the debate
to take place
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right before the vote
in Springfield.
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- Feels good to go
on the offense.
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- Since she has made it
her personal crusade
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to keep us all from attaining
our full rights
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as United States citizens,
I think it's important
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to demonstrate
publicly and legally
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that she doesn't know what
the hell she's talking about.
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How's that?
- Perfect.
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- Thank you.
- Thank you.
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- You'll drop the "hell."
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- Oh, Gloria!
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Jules. I took some photos
for "Ms." last year.
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- Of course.
So nice to see you again.
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This is my friend Bren--
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- Brenda, right?
- Mm-hmm.
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- You were
at the Christmas party.
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Are you down here doing a story
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about
the impeachment proceedings?
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- We had a meeting at the DOJ.
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I'm actually a lawyer
for the ACLU.
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- Oh. So you were crashing
the "Ms." Christmas party.
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- No, no, no, I'm one
of the founders of "Ms.,"
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so technically
it was legitimate.
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- Definitely a lawyer.
- Mm-hmm. [ chuckles ]
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- How long are you two in town?
- Just for the night.
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- Have you been
to the Dubliner? Just opened.
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Great happy hour.
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- Gloria's in charge
of happy hours.
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- Stan asked if we could
continue our conversation
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over dinner tonight.
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- Well, I guess we have
dinner plans.
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- I think he just meant the two
of us, but I'll double-check.
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[ indistinct conversations ]
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- We should get going.
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- Next time.
- [ chuckles ]
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- My brain doesn't work
this way.
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- It's just a puzzle,
and puzzles are games,
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and games are fun.
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Now that is
the transitive property at work.
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- Mm.
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- Well, you could take
the LSAT.
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A man with solid prospects--
very attractive to a girl.
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- Face it, Mother.
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None of your children
wanna go to law school.
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- Well, a law degree
is versatile.
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No, it's not just for, uh,
being a lawyer.
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You could, uh,
go into politics or business.
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Here. Let's take a look
at this one.
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"Now the number of calories
in a gram of refined cane sugar
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is the same as in
an equal amount of fructose--"
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- I can read myself.
- Hmm.
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- Uh... [ sighs ]
Uh, I don't know.
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"B"? "C"?
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- Ugh. Don't just say letters.
Consider it.
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[ papers rustling ]
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Uh, I would say..."E."
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Since the premise
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does not account
for the fact that sugar
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is not the only ingredient
that contains calories.
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[ door opens ]
Oh! I'm right.
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It is "E."
[ door closes ]
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[ footsteps approach ]
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You're home early.
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- Uh, Linda got an advanced copy
of the morning paper.
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- Well...
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Oh, look,
they quote you at length.
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- Huh.
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- I think you look very handsome
in the photo.
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- Not bad.
- So how does it feel
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to be Phyllis Schlafly's
lawyer husband?
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- [ chuckles ]
If you keep studying,
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you can be
Phyllis Schlafly's lawyer son.
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- Mm.
- Ah-ah.
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- When's dinner?
- It's at 6.
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- [ sighs ]
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- It's always at 6.
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Hmm.
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[ siren wailing ]
- Well, when I was at Harvard...
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- [ sighs ]
Never heard a good story
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that begins with
"When I was at Harvard..."
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- I had the professor
that was the inspiration
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for "The Paper Chase,"
and he announced
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he would only call on women
one day a year--Ladies' Day.
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- [ chuckles ] Ladies' Day.
- And he would only discuss
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cases involving
widows and brides.
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He didn't think we could handle
sparring in a Socratic fashion
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without bursting into tears.
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- [ chuckles ]
Did you ever burst into tears?
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- Tears of rage.
I paid the same tuition.
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- Well, why didn't you transfer
somewhere else?
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- Harvard's the best law school.
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- Have you ever been
photographed?
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- [ chuckles ]
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Once for "Glamour"
a few years back.
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- That makes sense.
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You're beautiful.
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- No, it was for a profile
about the movement.
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It was just about me
and my husband.
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- [ scoffs ]
That's the third time tonight
247
00:11:07,935 --> 00:11:10,971
you've said "husband."
248
00:11:11,004 --> 00:11:14,041
Why did you change your mind
about meeting me out?
249
00:11:14,074 --> 00:11:16,643
- Well, I felt bad.
You're friends with Gloria,
250
00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:19,246
and I was very rude.
251
00:11:21,581 --> 00:11:24,584
[ sighs ]
252
00:11:24,617 --> 00:11:26,053
Where are we headed?
253
00:11:26,086 --> 00:11:29,322
- The Watergate.
254
00:11:29,356 --> 00:11:31,258
Should we break in?
255
00:11:33,593 --> 00:11:36,463
[ footsteps depart ]
256
00:11:38,598 --> 00:11:40,567
- You have to wait.
- I thought I was!
257
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,269
- [ laughs ]
258
00:11:42,302 --> 00:11:47,174
Oh, no, I lost my...bracelet.
259
00:11:47,207 --> 00:11:49,309
- Oh. I'll get it.
260
00:11:56,784 --> 00:11:59,920
- Got it!
- Shh! What if we get caught?
261
00:11:59,953 --> 00:12:02,422
- Uh...I think it's been
established that security
262
00:12:02,455 --> 00:12:04,624
in this building is not great.
- [ chuckles ]
263
00:12:04,657 --> 00:12:06,626
Right.
- Okay.
264
00:12:08,395 --> 00:12:10,964
I can do it.
- Oh.
265
00:12:10,998 --> 00:12:13,133
- I think.
266
00:12:18,171 --> 00:12:20,974
Got it.
267
00:12:21,008 --> 00:12:24,945
[ water splashing ]
268
00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:26,113
- [ chuckles ]
269
00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:28,615
[ water splashing ]
270
00:12:28,648 --> 00:12:30,317
Wanna see who can hold
their breath the longest?
271
00:12:30,350 --> 00:12:31,985
- No.
272
00:12:35,022 --> 00:12:36,523
I wanna kiss you.
273
00:12:44,998 --> 00:12:46,834
- Oh. Oh.
274
00:12:46,867 --> 00:12:48,468
[ Saint-Saens' "The Carnival
of the Animals" playing ]
275
00:12:48,501 --> 00:12:49,803
- How's that?
276
00:12:49,837 --> 00:12:50,971
- Oh.
- [ chuckles ]
277
00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:52,005
- [ chuckles ]
- That better?
278
00:12:52,039 --> 00:12:54,674
- Mm-hmm.
279
00:12:54,707 --> 00:12:59,312
- Gosh, your calves
have gotten so strong.
280
00:12:59,346 --> 00:13:01,581
- Well, I ran 12 miles today.
281
00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:04,818
- 12?
- [ laughs ]
282
00:13:04,852 --> 00:13:06,820
***
283
00:13:06,854 --> 00:13:09,522
- I don't know what to do
about this challenge.
284
00:13:09,556 --> 00:13:11,825
No, it--it's insulting.
285
00:13:11,859 --> 00:13:14,527
Now I'm the leader
of the opposition,
286
00:13:14,561 --> 00:13:16,864
and they should send
their girl wonder
287
00:13:16,897 --> 00:13:18,765
to debate me, not to--
- I told you.
288
00:13:18,798 --> 00:13:20,333
Ignore it.
289
00:13:20,367 --> 00:13:22,769
- I've never turned down
an invitation to--
290
00:13:22,802 --> 00:13:24,337
to debate on the ERA,
291
00:13:24,371 --> 00:13:28,008
and they're gonna say
I'm scared.
292
00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:32,512
- Scared? I've never even heard
of Brenda Fasteau. She's nobody.
293
00:13:32,545 --> 00:13:36,049
- Well, and no, she helped
write the amicus brief
294
00:13:36,083 --> 00:13:39,319
for Frontiero v. Richardson.
295
00:13:40,587 --> 00:13:42,890
She's a lawyer.
296
00:13:42,923 --> 00:13:44,724
Now what if this is
some kind of trap,
297
00:13:44,757 --> 00:13:47,027
that, uh, they're trying
to humiliate me
298
00:13:47,060 --> 00:13:49,029
that I don't have a law degree?
299
00:13:49,062 --> 00:13:52,032
***
300
00:13:52,065 --> 00:13:53,366
- What was
the biggest sticking point
301
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,734
between
the North and South Vietnamese
302
00:13:54,767 --> 00:13:56,870
during the Paris peace talks?
303
00:13:56,904 --> 00:13:59,406
- The shape
of the negotiating table.
304
00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,742
- So if you don't like
the terms of the debate,
305
00:14:02,775 --> 00:14:04,477
change the shape of the table.
306
00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:05,812
***
307
00:14:05,845 --> 00:14:09,049
- Mm-hmm?
- So you respond
308
00:14:09,082 --> 00:14:11,551
that since the ERA
is going to, uh,
309
00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:13,320
destroy
the institution of marriage,
310
00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:16,223
the debate ought to be
between couples.
311
00:14:16,256 --> 00:14:18,892
And that way you can bring
your lawyer husband with you
312
00:14:18,926 --> 00:14:21,394
and protect you from
her Supreme Court credentials.
313
00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:23,730
***
314
00:14:23,763 --> 00:14:26,934
- Well, you'd--you'd have
to travel with me.
315
00:14:26,967 --> 00:14:29,236
Can you swing that with work?
316
00:14:29,269 --> 00:14:32,772
- It's my law firm.
I can do whatever I like.
317
00:14:36,276 --> 00:14:37,945
- Thank you, Daddy.
318
00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:47,254
[ The Seeds' "Can't Seem
To Make You Mine" playing ]
319
00:14:47,287 --> 00:14:53,093
***
320
00:14:53,126 --> 00:14:56,263
* I can't seem
to make you mine, oh *
321
00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:57,931
- Thank you.
322
00:14:57,965 --> 00:15:01,701
* Kiss and run all the time,
oh *
323
00:15:01,734 --> 00:15:04,104
* Flyin' around like a...
324
00:15:04,137 --> 00:15:05,138
- May I help you
with something, ma'am?
325
00:15:05,172 --> 00:15:07,107
- I'm here to take the LSAT.
326
00:15:07,140 --> 00:15:09,209
* ...everything that you see
327
00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:11,278
Oh, the registration's
under Bruce Schlafly,
328
00:15:11,311 --> 00:15:14,814
but I called, and they said
I could take it instead.
329
00:15:14,847 --> 00:15:18,318
* I can't seem
to make you mine *
330
00:15:18,351 --> 00:15:20,353
I'm his mother.
331
00:15:24,992 --> 00:15:26,126
- [ laughing ]
332
00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:27,660
- You enjoyed yourself.
333
00:15:27,694 --> 00:15:29,729
- [ laughs ] Stop.
334
00:15:29,762 --> 00:15:31,999
- Ohh. [ exhales deeply ]
335
00:15:32,032 --> 00:15:35,668
- [ continues laughing ]
- That was incredible.
336
00:15:35,702 --> 00:15:37,670
- Ohh.
337
00:15:37,704 --> 00:15:39,472
- Wow.
338
00:15:39,506 --> 00:15:40,840
- [ exhales deeply ]
339
00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:45,145
- [ kisses ] You're so much
more open and...
340
00:15:45,178 --> 00:15:48,148
you let me know everything
you wanted.
341
00:15:48,181 --> 00:15:51,518
[ siren wailing,
horn honking in distance ]
342
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,855
Did something happen
when you were in D.C.?
343
00:16:02,529 --> 00:16:04,064
- No.
344
00:16:05,698 --> 00:16:07,700
- You didn't sleep with someone?
345
00:16:09,902 --> 00:16:11,838
- I would never sleep
with another man. You know that.
346
00:16:11,871 --> 00:16:14,241
I would never do that.
347
00:16:24,251 --> 00:16:26,986
- You would never sleep
with another... man?
348
00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:32,359
- It was
a very spontaneous thing.
349
00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:36,563
Gloria had dinner plans,
and I had met this photographer
350
00:16:36,596 --> 00:16:39,366
earlier in the day with her
named Jules.
351
00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:44,637
- Jules.
- And I had way too many drinks,
352
00:16:44,671 --> 00:16:48,475
and...and then...
353
00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:50,377
I wasn't not gonna tell you.
354
00:16:50,410 --> 00:16:55,548
I just...haven't.
I just didn't tell you yet.
355
00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:58,585
- It's okay.
356
00:17:00,253 --> 00:17:03,223
- It is?
- Yes.
357
00:17:03,256 --> 00:17:07,760
- Yeah, it's okay. Come here.
Look... [ kisses ]
358
00:17:07,794 --> 00:17:09,762
If it was another man...
[ chuckles ]
359
00:17:09,796 --> 00:17:12,665
that would be something else
entirely, but...
360
00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:15,935
a woman? I mean...
361
00:17:15,968 --> 00:17:17,737
that's practically
a rite of passage
362
00:17:17,770 --> 00:17:20,240
for a radical feminist.
363
00:17:20,273 --> 00:17:22,909
- I mean, I've always...
364
00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:25,678
wanted to experience sex
once with a woman.
365
00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:28,081
- Well, now you have.
366
00:17:28,115 --> 00:17:29,616
[ kisses ]
367
00:17:34,487 --> 00:17:36,456
- Well, that's what I thought.
- We win Missouri...
368
00:17:36,489 --> 00:17:38,258
- Well, we've talked about
going to Illinois next week.
369
00:17:38,291 --> 00:17:40,593
- Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Sorry I'm late.
370
00:17:40,627 --> 00:17:43,263
I have just received
an interesting message
371
00:17:43,296 --> 00:17:45,965
from a producer
on "The Tomorrow Show."
372
00:17:45,998 --> 00:17:50,470
Tom Snyder has invited Brenda
and her husband
373
00:17:50,503 --> 00:17:52,205
to appear on the show
in a couples debate
374
00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:54,441
with the Schlaflys.
- Huh?
375
00:17:54,474 --> 00:17:55,808
- What?
- Oh.
376
00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:58,445
- A couples debate
with me and Marc?
377
00:17:58,478 --> 00:18:00,447
- And Fred and Phyllis, yes.
- [ laughs ]
378
00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,782
- Apparently she suggested
the idea.
379
00:18:02,815 --> 00:18:04,117
- Of course she did,
because he's the one
380
00:18:04,151 --> 00:18:06,286
feeding her the lines.
It's a trap.
381
00:18:06,319 --> 00:18:07,720
- Maybe she was hoping
you weren't married
382
00:18:07,754 --> 00:18:09,889
so she could worm her way
out of debating you.
383
00:18:09,922 --> 00:18:11,958
- Yeah, she likes to paint us
all as man-hating lesbians.
384
00:18:11,991 --> 00:18:14,060
Well, the joke's on her.
385
00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,297
You go on TV and look like
Barbie's DreamHouse
386
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:19,499
for all of flyover land to see.
387
00:18:19,532 --> 00:18:22,635
- Yes, but if she and Fred
beat Marc and Brenda,
388
00:18:22,669 --> 00:18:24,671
you know, that gives Phyllis
a boost in Illinois,
389
00:18:24,704 --> 00:18:27,574
and we have to get Illinois
to ratify this year.
390
00:18:27,607 --> 00:18:29,142
- No, we made a challenge.
391
00:18:29,176 --> 00:18:31,644
She either has to accept it
or not.
392
00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:34,080
- I'm not in charge
of TV show bookings.
393
00:18:34,113 --> 00:18:36,082
- The whole point of this
was to go on the offensive,
394
00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,084
and she's got us
playing defense again.
395
00:18:38,117 --> 00:18:40,353
Now we're trying to prove we're
as white, straight, and married
396
00:18:40,387 --> 00:18:41,988
as Phyllis
and Mr. Phyllis Schlafly?
397
00:18:42,021 --> 00:18:43,823
What we should do is send
a lesbian couple.
398
00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,592
- Oh, very funny.
- [ scoffs ] Wow.
399
00:18:45,625 --> 00:18:47,360
- I think that's a good idea.
- Oh, look, don't start.
400
00:18:47,394 --> 00:18:48,828
I'm going straight
from this meeting
401
00:18:48,861 --> 00:18:51,931
and meeting with
the National Gay Task Force.
402
00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:54,033
But she happens to have
a husband
403
00:18:54,066 --> 00:18:55,768
who happens to be
a magnificent hunk of a man,
404
00:18:55,802 --> 00:18:57,170
and I'm not going to apologize
405
00:18:57,204 --> 00:18:59,005
that the image
of Phyllis Schlafly
406
00:18:59,038 --> 00:19:01,608
eating her words
gives me a warm feeling
407
00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:04,211
down in my kishkes.
[ laughter ]
408
00:19:04,244 --> 00:19:07,614
Why aren't you more excited?
Why isn't she more excited?
409
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:11,284
- It's fine. We'll do the show.
410
00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:14,387
- Good.
- Mistake.
411
00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:18,291
- Great. So that's settled.
Next on our agenda, we have
412
00:19:18,325 --> 00:19:21,294
gotten a great response...
- Everything okay?
413
00:19:21,328 --> 00:19:23,796
- ...to the launch of our
Win With Women in '74 campaign.
414
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:25,031
- Yeah.
- We are making a push
415
00:19:25,064 --> 00:19:26,533
to support women candidates.
416
00:19:26,566 --> 00:19:28,368
- You don't have to do it
if you don't want to.
417
00:19:28,401 --> 00:19:29,802
- Of course I wanna do the show.
418
00:19:29,836 --> 00:19:32,572
I'll do anything to win Illinois
for us, and so will Marc.
419
00:19:32,605 --> 00:19:34,907
Besides, it'll be
great publicity for his book.
420
00:19:34,941 --> 00:19:37,577
[ applause ]
- Yes.
421
00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:38,878
[ applause continues ]
422
00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:40,213
- Fantastic.
423
00:19:40,247 --> 00:19:43,250
[ Anna Karina's "Roller Girl"
playing ]
424
00:19:43,283 --> 00:19:48,755
***
425
00:19:48,788 --> 00:19:52,725
* Je suis la fille
que l'on colle *
426
00:19:52,759 --> 00:19:56,929
* Sur les Harley Davidson *
427
00:19:56,963 --> 00:20:00,433
* Les B.M. Double V
428
00:20:00,467 --> 00:20:03,169
* Les camions 16 tonnes
429
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,405
* Je suis la roller girl *
430
00:20:05,438 --> 00:20:11,010
* Roll, roll, roll, roller girl,
roller girl *
431
00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:13,246
* Roller girl
- Jules!
432
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,416
* Roll, roll, roll,
roller girl *
433
00:20:16,449 --> 00:20:18,751
* Roller girl
434
00:20:18,785 --> 00:20:20,186
* Roll, roll, roller girl
435
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:21,288
Nice moves.
436
00:20:21,321 --> 00:20:23,790
- Not bad, huh?
- Yeah.
437
00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:26,259
- We're making a goodbye toast
to Margaret.
438
00:20:26,293 --> 00:20:28,194
- Where are you going?
- San Francisco.
439
00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,597
- Not San Francisco. Oakland.
440
00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:31,631
***
441
00:20:31,664 --> 00:20:33,800
- I haven't told Gloria yet.
442
00:20:35,134 --> 00:20:37,270
The Left Coast is calling me.
443
00:20:37,304 --> 00:20:38,605
- To Margaret.
- Whoo!
444
00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:41,040
- To Margaret.
- Thank you.
445
00:20:41,073 --> 00:20:42,375
- Mmm.
- Mmm.
446
00:20:42,409 --> 00:20:43,610
[ glasses clatter ]
447
00:20:43,643 --> 00:20:45,945
The palm trees and Panthers,
448
00:20:45,978 --> 00:20:47,280
the Pacific and the poets.
449
00:20:47,314 --> 00:20:48,615
- Earthquakes and Reagan.
450
00:20:48,648 --> 00:20:51,284
- The love-ins
and living-out-loud life.
451
00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:53,052
Feels like I'll find
my people there.
452
00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,054
- Oh, we're not your people?
- Yes.
453
00:20:55,087 --> 00:20:57,324
And you're my people,
and you're my people.
454
00:20:57,357 --> 00:20:59,292
I go to NOW meetings on Monday,
455
00:20:59,326 --> 00:21:01,894
National Black Feminist
Organization on Tuesday,
456
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:05,465
Lesbian Alliance on Wednesday,
and PTA on Thursday.
457
00:21:05,498 --> 00:21:06,899
It's exhausting.
458
00:21:06,933 --> 00:21:08,568
- Is California any different?
459
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:10,803
- See for yourself.
Brenda and her husband
460
00:21:10,837 --> 00:21:12,472
are going to be
on "The Tomorrow Show"
461
00:21:12,505 --> 00:21:14,341
to debate the Schlaflys
about the ERA
462
00:21:14,374 --> 00:21:16,809
because they are
the perfect heterosexual couple.
463
00:21:16,843 --> 00:21:17,977
- Ah!
464
00:21:18,010 --> 00:21:20,146
***
465
00:21:20,179 --> 00:21:21,581
- [ chuckles ]
Just made you come
466
00:21:21,614 --> 00:21:23,983
in the bathroom three times.
There's no windows here.
467
00:21:24,016 --> 00:21:25,485
- [ laughs ]
What do you expect, Jules?
468
00:21:25,518 --> 00:21:27,687
She's basically
a suburban housewife.
469
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,689
- Don't let them bully you,
okay?
470
00:21:29,722 --> 00:21:32,191
I live in Chappaqua
with my husband and three boys,
471
00:21:32,224 --> 00:21:35,428
and I teach third grade,
and it works for me.
472
00:21:35,462 --> 00:21:37,497
- We live in the city.
473
00:21:37,530 --> 00:21:39,666
***
474
00:21:39,699 --> 00:21:42,101
* Roll, roll, roll,
roller girl *
475
00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,337
* Roller girl
476
00:21:44,371 --> 00:21:48,875
* Roll, roll, roller girl
477
00:21:50,877 --> 00:21:52,679
- How about...
[ feedback whines ]
478
00:21:52,712 --> 00:21:54,447
[ amplified voice ]
"Eve came from Adam's rib.
479
00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:56,849
It's time to abort women's lib"?
480
00:21:56,883 --> 00:21:59,519
[ feedback whines,
indistinct conversations ]
481
00:21:59,552 --> 00:22:03,723
- Um...I say we just stick
with "Jam and sham."
482
00:22:03,756 --> 00:22:06,359
- It's just that "abort"
is more emotional.
483
00:22:06,393 --> 00:22:08,861
[ telephone rings ]
484
00:22:08,895 --> 00:22:12,031
[ picks up receiver ]
- STOP ERA. Rosemary speaking.
485
00:22:12,064 --> 00:22:14,901
- Big mistake putting Rosemary
in charge of the bullhorn.
486
00:22:14,934 --> 00:22:17,737
- Well, I tried to put you
in charge.
487
00:22:17,770 --> 00:22:19,071
- I can't speak in front
of hundreds of people.
488
00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:20,873
[ doorbell rings ]
489
00:22:20,907 --> 00:22:24,076
How did it go with
Bruce's LSATs, by the way?
490
00:22:24,110 --> 00:22:26,078
[ ring ]
- Oh. Uh, very well.
491
00:22:26,112 --> 00:22:28,548
- Wonderful.
- He wants to go to med school.
492
00:22:28,581 --> 00:22:30,149
[ knock on door ]
Yeah, I'll be right back.
493
00:22:30,182 --> 00:22:31,618
- That would be great.
494
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,422
- Oh. Can I help you?
495
00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:38,257
- Is there where
a John Schlafly lives?
496
00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:41,761
- Oh, he's not at home.
May I help you?
497
00:22:41,794 --> 00:22:44,764
- I found his wallet.
498
00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,735
- Well, I'll make sure
he gets it. Thank you.
499
00:22:48,768 --> 00:22:52,405
- He should be more careful
with his stuff.
500
00:22:52,439 --> 00:22:55,107
Not everyone's as thoughtful
as me. [ chuckles ]
501
00:22:58,277 --> 00:23:00,747
- You know what?
You deserve a reward
502
00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,883
for your sense of...
civic duty.
503
00:23:21,968 --> 00:23:24,303
[ bills rustle ]
504
00:23:24,336 --> 00:23:26,839
Well, that should be enough,
right?
505
00:23:29,976 --> 00:23:32,278
[ footsteps depart ]
506
00:23:32,311 --> 00:23:39,886
***
507
00:23:39,919 --> 00:23:42,789
- Are you going to Trader Vic's
or the Chateau Marmont?
508
00:23:42,822 --> 00:23:46,225
Maybe you'll see
some movie stars.
509
00:23:46,258 --> 00:23:50,062
Mom? Are you even listening?
510
00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:52,331
- No, no, it's a--
it's a work trip.
511
00:23:52,364 --> 00:23:54,501
[ footsteps approach ]
512
00:23:59,839 --> 00:24:00,973
[ door closes ]
513
00:24:01,007 --> 00:24:02,942
Right.
514
00:24:07,379 --> 00:24:08,815
- So?
515
00:24:08,848 --> 00:24:11,450
[ hangers clack ]
How was the LSAT?
516
00:24:12,952 --> 00:24:15,321
[ sighs ]
[ closet door closes ]
517
00:24:15,354 --> 00:24:17,023
What?
518
00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:20,326
- He didn't take it.
519
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,094
- What do you mean,
you didn't take it?
520
00:24:22,128 --> 00:24:24,997
- I had an event
at my fraternity.
521
00:24:25,031 --> 00:24:26,666
- He just didn't feel
he was ready.
522
00:24:26,699 --> 00:24:29,201
You know how competitive
he is.
523
00:24:29,235 --> 00:24:32,338
He can take it next year.
- Well, you should be ashamed.
524
00:24:32,371 --> 00:24:34,440
for wasting your mother's time
and my money.
525
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,208
- I'll pay you back.
526
00:24:36,242 --> 00:24:40,179
- Well, actually, the money
didn't go to waste.
527
00:24:40,212 --> 00:24:43,182
They let me take it instead.
[ smacks lips, chuckles ]
528
00:24:43,215 --> 00:24:46,052
- What?
- You took Bruce's test?
529
00:24:46,085 --> 00:24:48,020
- Why would you do that?
530
00:24:48,054 --> 00:24:51,691
- Oh! It was a lark.
You know me.
531
00:24:51,724 --> 00:24:54,293
I enjoy multiple choice
and logic
532
00:24:54,326 --> 00:24:57,864
and those sorts of things.
533
00:24:57,897 --> 00:24:59,966
- What a pointless thing to do.
534
00:24:59,999 --> 00:25:03,035
- As I said, it was a lark.
535
00:25:03,069 --> 00:25:05,071
- Well, if you didn't want
my money to go to waste,
536
00:25:05,104 --> 00:25:06,706
you should've convinced this one
to go instead.
537
00:25:06,739 --> 00:25:08,374
- I don't wanna go into law.
538
00:25:08,407 --> 00:25:10,209
- Well, you wanna do menial work
for the rest of your life?
539
00:25:10,242 --> 00:25:11,544
What's wrong with you?
540
00:25:11,578 --> 00:25:13,045
- There's nothing wrong
with him.
541
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:14,380
- Oh, why do you keep
protecting him?
542
00:25:14,413 --> 00:25:17,584
- Fred...this is our time
as a family...
543
00:25:19,118 --> 00:25:22,088
...to relax and enjoy our dinner
together.
544
00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:27,760
- [ sighs ]
545
00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:32,064
Bless us, O Lord,
these thy gifts
546
00:25:32,098 --> 00:25:33,733
which we are about to receive
547
00:25:33,766 --> 00:25:36,603
from thy bounty
through Christ, our Lord.
548
00:25:40,272 --> 00:25:41,674
Linda Ronstadt:
* Stand on the corner
549
00:25:41,708 --> 00:25:43,242
- What are you working on?
550
00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:45,845
- An introduction
to Marc's book.
551
00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:47,446
Probably the best shot I've got
at getting published
552
00:25:47,479 --> 00:25:49,015
before I turn 40.
553
00:25:49,048 --> 00:25:51,017
- You already published a book.
554
00:25:51,050 --> 00:25:53,019
- "The Beach Book"
is not a book.
555
00:25:53,052 --> 00:25:55,454
- You know... [ sighs ]
you're too hard on yourself.
556
00:25:55,487 --> 00:25:58,758
- The dust jackets were made out
of sun reflectors.
557
00:25:58,791 --> 00:26:00,459
[ chuckles ]
558
00:26:00,492 --> 00:26:03,095
***
559
00:26:03,129 --> 00:26:05,197
- Can I tell you something?
560
00:26:05,231 --> 00:26:07,266
- You're also writing a book?
561
00:26:07,299 --> 00:26:09,268
- [ chuckles ]
562
00:26:09,301 --> 00:26:12,772
Marc told me about Brenda...
experimenting.
563
00:26:12,805 --> 00:26:14,273
- What?
564
00:26:14,306 --> 00:26:16,375
- While you two were in D.C.,
some photographer?
565
00:26:16,408 --> 00:26:19,445
***
566
00:26:19,478 --> 00:26:21,814
- She didn't tell me.
567
00:26:21,848 --> 00:26:24,984
- Sounded like it wasn't
a big deal.
568
00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:26,485
That man is enlightened,
569
00:26:26,518 --> 00:26:28,821
'cause it sure as hell
wouldn't fly with me.
570
00:26:28,855 --> 00:26:31,658
- Maybe we should rethink
planning a vacation with them.
571
00:26:31,691 --> 00:26:33,292
***
572
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:35,728
- You will find any excuse
to not celebrate.
573
00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:39,331
- [ sighs ] What's to celebrate?
Nothing is going well.
574
00:26:39,365 --> 00:26:44,470
- Hey. If I learned anything
from my divorce,
575
00:26:44,503 --> 00:26:47,840
it's to focus on the things
you c control
576
00:26:47,874 --> 00:26:50,743
and change that.
577
00:26:50,777 --> 00:26:54,513
- Marlo called. She wants
to donate the proceeds
578
00:26:54,546 --> 00:26:56,148
from "Free To Be... You and Me"
to Ms. Foundation.
579
00:26:56,182 --> 00:26:58,250
It got me thinking.
580
00:26:58,284 --> 00:27:00,987
I could set up grants
to focus on survival issues,
581
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:02,755
working class women,
battered wives,
582
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:05,157
focus on marginalized groups.
583
00:27:05,191 --> 00:27:07,026
Maybe you could help me
set that up.
584
00:27:07,059 --> 00:27:08,895
- That is a great idea.
585
00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:13,032
Mmm.
586
00:27:13,065 --> 00:27:15,101
- They're taping
a "Free To Be... You and Me"
587
00:27:15,134 --> 00:27:17,670
TV special next week.
588
00:27:17,704 --> 00:27:19,706
Do you think Kerrie and Kyle
would enjoy
589
00:27:19,739 --> 00:27:22,842
coming to the studio with me?
590
00:27:22,875 --> 00:27:25,778
***
591
00:27:25,812 --> 00:27:28,114
- They would love it.
592
00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,382
- And maybe afterward,
593
00:27:30,416 --> 00:27:34,386
we could get a slice of cake
for my birthday.
594
00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,857
They like cake, right?
595
00:27:37,890 --> 00:27:41,794
- Kids generally like cake. Yes.
596
00:27:41,828 --> 00:27:43,696
***
597
00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:46,132
Loggins and Messina:
* Do-do, do-do, do-do-do
598
00:27:46,165 --> 00:27:48,634
* Do-do, do-do, do-do-do
599
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,403
* Do-do, do-do, do-do-do
[ jet roaring ]
600
00:27:51,437 --> 00:27:54,874
* Do-do, do-do-do
601
00:27:54,907 --> 00:27:56,208
* Hey, little girl,
won't you meet me *
602
00:27:56,242 --> 00:27:58,044
* At the schoolyard gate?
603
00:27:58,077 --> 00:28:00,146
***
604
00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,915
* I got backstage passes
to the biggest show in town *
605
00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:05,584
* So, honey,
don't you make me late *
606
00:28:05,617 --> 00:28:07,386
* If we leave really early
and we hurry *
607
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:10,089
* We can get in with the band,
'cause little Tim Smitty's... *
608
00:28:10,122 --> 00:28:12,558
- If we have time,
we should hike up to
609
00:28:12,591 --> 00:28:14,393
the Griffith Park Observatory.
610
00:28:14,426 --> 00:28:16,395
It's where they filmed
"Rebel Without a Cause."
611
00:28:16,428 --> 00:28:18,497
- I think I need to go lie down.
612
00:28:18,530 --> 00:28:21,734
- Okay, I'm just gonna stop by
the concierge and get some maps.
613
00:28:21,768 --> 00:28:23,102
- Thank you.
- Thanks.
614
00:28:23,135 --> 00:28:25,071
- Oh, my God. It's them.
615
00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:27,406
***
616
00:28:27,439 --> 00:28:30,576
- I hate Los Angeles.
617
00:28:30,609 --> 00:28:32,745
- We probably won't move
until the summer,
618
00:28:32,779 --> 00:28:35,581
but I'd like to take
a few months to finish my book.
619
00:28:35,614 --> 00:28:38,250
- I didn't know
you were writing a book.
620
00:28:38,284 --> 00:28:40,519
- On black feminism.
621
00:28:40,552 --> 00:28:44,256
- Is there anything I can do
to entice you to stay?
622
00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:46,959
"Ms." won't be the same
without your voice.
623
00:28:46,993 --> 00:28:50,362
- I think we'll be happier
in Oakland.
624
00:28:50,396 --> 00:28:52,198
- You're not happy here?
625
00:28:52,231 --> 00:28:54,500
[ footsteps approach ]
626
00:28:59,138 --> 00:29:01,640
- No, it's just...the schools
are better in Oakland.
627
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:05,311
You probably have to get going.
628
00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:15,988
[ indistinct conversations ]
629
00:29:23,095 --> 00:29:24,630
- Look who's here.
630
00:29:24,663 --> 00:29:27,133
- Children: Hi, Ms. Gloria.
- [ chuckles ]
631
00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:29,668
Hey.
632
00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:31,503
Is something wrong?
633
00:29:31,537 --> 00:29:34,740
- Margaret just quit.
634
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:36,909
- I'm sorry.
635
00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:38,644
- She's moving to Oakland.
636
00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:41,013
You know, better schools there
for her daughter.
637
00:29:41,047 --> 00:29:44,183
- Is that what she told you?
638
00:29:49,555 --> 00:29:52,324
- You excited to see
how a television show gets made?
639
00:29:52,358 --> 00:29:56,662
- Oh, yeah. We've been listening
to the record all week.
640
00:29:56,695 --> 00:29:58,664
Tell Ms. Gloria
what your favorite song is.
641
00:29:58,697 --> 00:30:00,933
- "It's Alright to Cry."
642
00:30:00,967 --> 00:30:03,302
- It's one of my favorite songs,
too.
643
00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:08,507
[ toilet flushes,
door opens ]
644
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:09,842
- [ inhales sharply ]
645
00:30:09,876 --> 00:30:11,844
[ door closes ]
646
00:30:11,878 --> 00:30:14,613
[ teeth swishing ]
[ footsteps approach ]
647
00:30:14,646 --> 00:30:17,016
- Hey. What's going on?
You okay?
648
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:21,587
- [ sighs ]
I think I'm pregnant.
649
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:30,696
- Uh...we're gonna have a baby?
650
00:30:30,729 --> 00:30:33,699
This is incredible. A baby.
[ kisses ]
651
00:30:33,732 --> 00:30:35,968
Oh, my goodness.
652
00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:41,908
Uh...Okay, uh, so look,
653
00:30:41,941 --> 00:30:44,210
we can put the crib in our room
for the first few months,
654
00:30:44,243 --> 00:30:46,979
but then we gotta start looking
for a 2-bedroom.
655
00:30:47,013 --> 00:30:49,081
And hey, hey, I know it's scary,
656
00:30:49,115 --> 00:30:51,317
but it's not like
we haven't talked about it.
657
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:52,651
- It's just
it's the timing of it.
658
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,921
- Uh-huh.
- Are we even ready?
659
00:30:54,954 --> 00:30:56,055
- Hey, but it's never
the right time, right?
660
00:30:56,088 --> 00:30:57,723
That's what Ruth and Marty
always say.
661
00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,091
- Yeah, but--
- You're worried
662
00:30:59,125 --> 00:31:00,993
about your career?
- [ sniffles ] I don't know!
663
00:31:01,027 --> 00:31:03,795
I don't know what I think
because you keep talking.
664
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:08,567
[ exhales deeply ]
665
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,071
- Okay. Okay.
666
00:31:12,104 --> 00:31:13,439
- [ exhales deeply ]
667
00:31:18,277 --> 00:31:20,212
- Brenda, I'm listening.
668
00:31:21,780 --> 00:31:24,650
- [ exhales deeply ]
669
00:31:26,118 --> 00:31:28,287
I slept with Jules again.
670
00:31:34,126 --> 00:31:35,561
- When?
671
00:31:38,130 --> 00:31:40,432
- She lives in the city.
672
00:31:40,466 --> 00:31:43,502
Uh...and we've been seeing
each other.
673
00:31:49,575 --> 00:31:53,545
- I thought you were just
looking to experiment. Um...
674
00:31:53,579 --> 00:31:56,315
So are you leaving me for her?
675
00:31:56,348 --> 00:31:59,785
- [ exhales deeply ] No.
676
00:31:59,818 --> 00:32:02,521
Look, can we talk about this
later?
677
00:32:05,524 --> 00:32:09,328
- I forgot.
We have to go on television
678
00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:10,997
and pretend to be
the perfect married couple.
679
00:32:11,030 --> 00:32:12,498
- We don't have to do the show.
680
00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:15,801
- We have to go.
Everyone's counting on us.
681
00:32:15,834 --> 00:32:17,836
We can smile. We can fake it.
682
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:21,007
That's apparently what
you've been doing anyway.
683
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,509
[ exhales deeply ]
684
00:32:23,542 --> 00:32:27,079
[ footsteps depart ]
685
00:32:27,113 --> 00:32:29,481
[ door opens ]
- [ crying softly ]
686
00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:30,516
[ door slams ]
687
00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:37,123
[ indistinct conversations ]
688
00:32:49,201 --> 00:32:51,070
- [ exhales deeply ]
689
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:56,875
- Did either of you cross paths
with Paul Freund
690
00:32:56,908 --> 00:32:58,677
while you were at Harvard?
691
00:32:58,710 --> 00:33:00,279
- We had him
for Constitutional Law.
692
00:33:00,312 --> 00:33:02,214
- Oh. He was my classmate.
693
00:33:02,248 --> 00:33:05,017
- And does he know your wife
has been citing his article
694
00:33:05,051 --> 00:33:07,386
on the ERA in her testimony
before state legislatures?
695
00:33:07,419 --> 00:33:09,121
- Mis-citing.
696
00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:11,357
- We're not in touch.
697
00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:13,092
- I see.
698
00:33:16,662 --> 00:33:17,863
- Do you have children?
699
00:33:17,896 --> 00:33:20,532
- No.
- Not yet, no. No.
700
00:33:20,566 --> 00:33:23,469
- You know when I miss Cambridge
the most? In the fall.
701
00:33:23,502 --> 00:33:25,537
- Oh, that foliage.
702
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:27,373
- Made studying for torts
less bleak.
703
00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:29,708
- Yeah.
704
00:33:29,741 --> 00:33:33,379
- First, let me introduce
Brenda and Marc Fasteau--
705
00:33:33,412 --> 00:33:36,415
Brenda Feigen Fasteau is
30 years of age,
706
00:33:36,448 --> 00:33:38,584
and she is a graduate
of the Harvard Law School,
707
00:33:38,617 --> 00:33:40,919
the full-time director
708
00:33:40,952 --> 00:33:42,554
of the
American Civil Liberties Union's
709
00:33:42,588 --> 00:33:44,256
women's rights project
710
00:33:44,290 --> 00:33:47,593
and a strong advocate
of the Equal Rights Amendment.
711
00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,562
Her husband is
Marc Feigen Fasteau.
712
00:33:50,596 --> 00:33:53,765
He is 31, also a graduate
of the Harvard Law School.
713
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,335
He is a lawyer, uh, and is now
putting together a book
714
00:33:56,368 --> 00:33:59,605
about male sexual stereotyping.
715
00:33:59,638 --> 00:34:02,908
On the other side of the issue
are Phyllis and Fred Schlafly.
716
00:34:02,941 --> 00:34:05,744
Mrs. Schlafly,
a housewife and mother of six,
717
00:34:05,777 --> 00:34:08,680
is the head of STOP ERA,
the national organization
718
00:34:08,714 --> 00:34:11,583
which opposes
the Equal Rights Amendment.
719
00:34:11,617 --> 00:34:13,285
Now Mr. Schlafly is a lawyer,
720
00:34:13,319 --> 00:34:15,421
and he strongly supports
his wife's efforts.
721
00:34:15,454 --> 00:34:18,857
Now I am told that Mrs. Schlafly
ran for the Congress twice
722
00:34:18,890 --> 00:34:20,359
in the state of Illinois...
- That's right.
723
00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:22,261
- ...and lost both times.
724
00:34:22,294 --> 00:34:23,929
She thanked all the people
who voted for her,
725
00:34:23,962 --> 00:34:25,431
and her husband thanked
726
00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,433
all the people who did not vote
for her.
727
00:34:27,466 --> 00:34:29,535
- Right, Marc, yeah.
- I'm Marc.
728
00:34:29,568 --> 00:34:31,370
- Uh, yes, uh, Tom. Right.
729
00:34:31,403 --> 00:34:34,940
- So the ERA has been ratified
by 33 states so far.
730
00:34:34,973 --> 00:34:37,276
Uh, it will have to be ratified
by 38 states--
731
00:34:37,309 --> 00:34:38,277
- And that's two
that have rescinded.
732
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:39,611
Nebraska and Tennessee are--
733
00:34:39,645 --> 00:34:40,946
- But states aren't really able
to rescind,
734
00:34:40,979 --> 00:34:42,281
so the first thing is
to acknowledge the truth,
735
00:34:42,314 --> 00:34:44,450
which is that women
are discriminated against.
736
00:34:44,483 --> 00:34:45,884
- Well, I don't acknowledge that
at all.
737
00:34:45,917 --> 00:34:47,986
- Well, then I'll just lay out
my version of the truth.
738
00:34:48,019 --> 00:34:50,456
- Before we get into that,
I--I'd--I would like to give
739
00:34:50,489 --> 00:34:52,391
Mrs. Schlafly and Mr. Schlafly
an opportunity
740
00:34:52,424 --> 00:34:54,460
to enumerate what they think
this amendment means,
741
00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:55,827
and then we'll come over
to this side,
742
00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:58,797
and you can say what
you and Marc think it means.
743
00:34:58,830 --> 00:34:59,965
Is that okay?
- I'll say what I think,
744
00:34:59,998 --> 00:35:01,667
and Marc will say
what he thinks.
745
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,137
- Okay, everyone will say what
they think. All right? Fine.
746
00:35:05,171 --> 00:35:08,974
Here we go. Mr. Schlafly.
- Well, under the ERA,
747
00:35:09,007 --> 00:35:11,977
the poor girls would have to
support the family 50%. Now--
748
00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:13,645
- Oh, but--but wouldn't we be
749
00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:14,980
getting something for that,
Fred?
750
00:35:15,013 --> 00:35:16,315
- Oh, first, Tom...
- We may well perhaps.
751
00:35:16,348 --> 00:35:20,752
- Uh, let me just say, the ERA
would, uh, impose
752
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:23,855
a doctrinaire equality
on men and women
753
00:35:23,889 --> 00:35:27,326
and take away from women some
of the most important rights
754
00:35:27,359 --> 00:35:29,661
and privileges they now have
by law,
755
00:35:29,695 --> 00:35:31,697
and that's why we think
it's a fraud.
756
00:35:31,730 --> 00:35:34,533
- Can you give us an example
of what you mean?
757
00:35:34,566 --> 00:35:38,670
- Well, uh, for example,
uh, under our current system,
758
00:35:38,704 --> 00:35:41,039
uh, in a case of a breakup
of marriage,
759
00:35:41,072 --> 00:35:42,674
the mother gets the children.
760
00:35:42,708 --> 00:35:44,843
Now, uh, who wants
to trade that in
761
00:35:44,876 --> 00:35:47,779
for a so-called equality
whereby each, uh, parent
762
00:35:47,813 --> 00:35:49,381
gets one child?
763
00:35:49,415 --> 00:35:52,184
- The ERA does not say
that in the case of divorce,
764
00:35:52,218 --> 00:35:53,952
each parent gets one child.
- Oh, yes, it does.
765
00:35:53,985 --> 00:35:57,055
It says you have to interpret
things absolutely equally.
766
00:35:57,088 --> 00:35:59,024
- Well, what if she has one
child, would it be cut in half?
767
00:35:59,057 --> 00:36:01,693
- Oh, well, you--
you can joke all you want.
768
00:36:01,727 --> 00:36:04,696
I mean, the courts, uh,
would decide, as they did,
769
00:36:04,730 --> 00:36:07,366
uh, with a recent
Washington, D.C., case,
770
00:36:07,399 --> 00:36:10,035
where three children
were given to the father,
771
00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:12,204
and the mother had to pay
child support.
772
00:36:12,238 --> 00:36:13,805
- What was the name of the case?
- It's crazy to say that was
773
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:17,876
an advance for women, but the--
the larger issue is that the ERA
774
00:36:17,909 --> 00:36:20,212
erodes the institution
of marriage, not just divorce--
775
00:36:20,246 --> 00:36:21,913
- Cite the case.
- The case?
776
00:36:21,947 --> 00:36:23,249
Well, I'd have to look it up,
but the point is--
777
00:36:23,282 --> 00:36:25,050
- You don't know the name
of the case?
778
00:36:25,083 --> 00:36:26,151
- Well, there's so many cases.
779
00:36:26,184 --> 00:36:27,553
We don't have time to cite
them all.
780
00:36:27,586 --> 00:36:28,754
- Just cite the one case.
- We don't have time
781
00:36:28,787 --> 00:36:30,422
to cite them all.
- Just name this one case.
782
00:36:30,456 --> 00:36:32,424
- The point is,
if everything must be equal,
783
00:36:32,458 --> 00:36:34,826
then the logical extension
of the ERA
784
00:36:34,860 --> 00:36:36,428
is that we would have
a gender-neutral society...
785
00:36:36,462 --> 00:36:37,829
or homosexuals will have...
- You have scared the women
786
00:36:37,863 --> 00:36:39,164
of America into believing
something that is not based
787
00:36:39,197 --> 00:36:41,600
in reality, but when you argue
an actual point
788
00:36:41,633 --> 00:36:43,402
in the real world
in a court of law,
789
00:36:43,435 --> 00:36:44,936
you need to cite a case
to support your argument,
790
00:36:44,970 --> 00:36:46,938
so cite the case.
791
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:52,911
- Well, I think it was
Foley vs. Langham or Lancaster.
792
00:36:52,944 --> 00:36:54,413
Something like that.
793
00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:57,416
- No, there is no such case.
- Oh, yes, there is.
794
00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:59,084
But you see--
- Did you just make up a case?
795
00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:02,120
- I'm not a lawyer. No. I'm the
wife of a lawyer, and I really
796
00:37:02,153 --> 00:37:03,455
do think that's more fun, and I
get tired of the feminists...
797
00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:04,923
- Well, listen, I doubt we're
gonna get to agree
798
00:37:04,956 --> 00:37:05,857
on this at all,
so we should just move on.
799
00:37:05,891 --> 00:37:07,426
- There is no disagreeing
on fact.
800
00:37:07,459 --> 00:37:08,794
The fact is there is no
Foley vs. Langham case.
801
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,430
Also a fact is that you are not
really a housewife.
802
00:37:11,463 --> 00:37:14,199
You are a full-time lobbyist
working to defeat the ERA
803
00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:17,135
so that businessmen can continue
to make millions of dollars...
804
00:37:17,168 --> 00:37:18,370
- Oh, no, no, no, no.
805
00:37:18,404 --> 00:37:19,605
- ...discriminating
against women
806
00:37:19,638 --> 00:37:21,139
when they work,
when they buy insurance,
807
00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:23,309
and when they give birth.
- No, well, I don't work
808
00:37:23,342 --> 00:37:24,976
for anyone.
The majority of the money--
809
00:37:25,010 --> 00:37:26,111
- Oh, great, so you're a patsy.
Well, maybe you should stick
810
00:37:26,144 --> 00:37:27,446
to baking and leave
interpreting the law
811
00:37:27,479 --> 00:37:29,315
to the lawyers.
- [ laughs ]
812
00:37:29,348 --> 00:37:33,319
- Okay. You both have
some opinionated wives,
813
00:37:33,352 --> 00:37:36,221
but seriously, let's bring
the fellas in on this
814
00:37:36,254 --> 00:37:37,656
and have them get a word in.
815
00:37:37,689 --> 00:37:40,892
Marc, you are in what you call
an equal marriage.
816
00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:42,628
So let me ask you this.
817
00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:45,631
Who wears the pants
in your family?
818
00:37:45,664 --> 00:37:47,999
- Well, we both do. Uh, Brenda
looks much better in them
819
00:37:48,033 --> 00:37:50,302
than I do. [ chuckles ]
820
00:37:50,336 --> 00:37:53,171
- But, um, our marriage was--
was really forged
821
00:37:53,204 --> 00:37:55,907
in the crucible of feminism,
so we don't have assigned roles.
822
00:37:55,941 --> 00:37:57,309
- And, Fred, how about you?
823
00:37:57,343 --> 00:37:59,311
Well, your wife has
a very strong and--
824
00:37:59,345 --> 00:38:01,480
and dominant kind of style.
825
00:38:01,513 --> 00:38:02,648
She wear the pants
in your family?
826
00:38:02,681 --> 00:38:04,650
- Oh. No, she doesn't.
827
00:38:04,683 --> 00:38:08,987
Uh, I'm obviously physically
larger than she is.
828
00:38:09,020 --> 00:38:11,990
- Yeah, well, he chins himself
25 times every morning.
829
00:38:12,023 --> 00:38:15,994
- And, uh, she's very, uh,
submissive.
830
00:38:16,027 --> 00:38:17,663
- Sub-submissive?
- Oh!
831
00:38:17,696 --> 00:38:20,932
- Wait.
Phyllis Schlafly submissive?
832
00:38:20,966 --> 00:38:23,602
I just--I...
Well, I can't even, uh...
833
00:38:23,635 --> 00:38:26,372
- [ chuckles ]
- Is that right?
834
00:38:26,405 --> 00:38:29,541
- Well, um, Fred's the boss
of the family,
835
00:38:29,575 --> 00:38:32,544
and, um...
836
00:38:32,578 --> 00:38:36,515
- Oh. All right.
Well, speaking of submissive,
837
00:38:36,548 --> 00:38:38,216
we've got some bills
to pay here, so...
838
00:38:38,249 --> 00:38:53,198
***
839
00:38:53,231 --> 00:38:58,303
***
840
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:01,039
- And what was that all about?
- I don't like your tone.
841
00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:03,141
- You hung me out to dry!
842
00:39:03,174 --> 00:39:04,376
- You made up a case,
and I couldn't defend you
843
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:05,877
without looking foolish.
844
00:39:05,911 --> 00:39:08,213
- Well, you could've jumped in
earlier.
845
00:39:08,246 --> 00:39:10,416
- If you had stopped talking...
- Oh, no, no, no.
846
00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:13,218
You just sat there.
Why do you think--
847
00:39:13,251 --> 00:39:15,454
- What?
- I brought you.
848
00:39:17,188 --> 00:39:19,057
- That LSAT wasn't a lark,
was it?
849
00:39:19,090 --> 00:39:20,659
You're applying to law school.
850
00:39:20,692 --> 00:39:23,595
- Is that such a crazy idea?
- Yes! Absolutely crazy.
851
00:39:23,629 --> 00:39:25,497
- No, you don't think
I could get in.
852
00:39:25,531 --> 00:39:27,399
- It's not a matter
of whether you could get in.
853
00:39:27,433 --> 00:39:30,502
- I have raised six children.
They're almost all grown--
854
00:39:30,536 --> 00:39:32,137
- You are too old.
855
00:39:35,106 --> 00:39:37,108
Who applies to law school
at 50?
856
00:39:37,142 --> 00:39:38,610
- You can't stop me from going.
857
00:39:38,644 --> 00:39:41,413
- Well, who's going to pay
for it?
858
00:39:41,447 --> 00:39:44,950
I have let you run around
this country with your cause.
859
00:39:44,983 --> 00:39:47,018
- It's our cause, Fred.
It's our cause.
860
00:39:47,052 --> 00:39:50,288
- I... am the lawyer
in the family.
861
00:39:50,321 --> 00:39:53,892
- Don't worry. I'm not looking
to practice estate law!
862
00:39:59,330 --> 00:40:02,300
- You made a sacred promise
to me when we were married,
863
00:40:02,333 --> 00:40:03,935
or have you forgotten?
864
00:40:03,969 --> 00:40:05,837
- I've not forgotten.
865
00:40:07,639 --> 00:40:09,274
But you can't blame me
if you didn't do more
866
00:40:09,307 --> 00:40:12,143
with your law degree
to save our country.
867
00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:20,452
Where are you going?
868
00:40:20,486 --> 00:40:23,655
- I don't need
to explain myself to you.
869
00:40:27,593 --> 00:40:29,294
- [ sighs ]
870
00:40:29,327 --> 00:40:30,529
[ inhales sharply ]
871
00:40:33,699 --> 00:40:35,366
[ exhales deeply ]
872
00:40:41,507 --> 00:40:42,874
[ exhales deeply ]
873
00:40:50,616 --> 00:40:52,250
- God, that was tremendous.
874
00:40:52,283 --> 00:40:56,588
- You were pretty amazing.
875
00:40:56,622 --> 00:40:59,791
- Thank you. Thank you.
We make a great team.
876
00:41:03,695 --> 00:41:05,564
Are you in love with her?
877
00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:12,037
- I don't even know
if I like her.
878
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:21,179
I'm sorry I lied to you.
879
00:41:21,212 --> 00:41:23,949
I'm sorry. I'm...
880
00:41:23,982 --> 00:41:30,188
I'm confused, and...um...
881
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:31,489
- What?
882
00:41:42,267 --> 00:41:44,903
- [ voice breaking ] I really
love being with a woman.
883
00:41:52,343 --> 00:41:54,245
- More than me?
884
00:41:54,279 --> 00:41:58,283
- I could never love anyone
more than you. [ cries ]
885
00:42:02,621 --> 00:42:04,890
What do we do?
886
00:42:04,923 --> 00:42:07,425
- What if you didn't have to be
this or that?
887
00:42:07,458 --> 00:42:09,227
I mean, what if there's
another way?
888
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:11,897
Isn't it the whole point
of living a radical life?
889
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:14,766
- [ sniffles ] Until you bring
a child into it.
890
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,002
- Says who?
891
00:42:17,035 --> 00:42:18,604
We've always played
by our own rules.
892
00:42:21,206 --> 00:42:24,275
We can choose to build
our family however we want.
893
00:42:32,784 --> 00:42:33,852
- I think it's, uh, uh,
894
00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:35,453
Foley vs. Langham or Lancaster,
895
00:42:35,486 --> 00:42:37,255
something like that.
- No, there is no such case.
896
00:42:37,288 --> 00:42:39,958
- Oh, yes, there is,
but you see--
897
00:42:39,991 --> 00:42:41,593
- Did you just make up a case?
- I'm not a lawyer, no.
898
00:42:41,627 --> 00:42:44,095
I'm the wife of a lawyer,
and I really do think
899
00:42:44,129 --> 00:42:46,364
that's more fun--
- Listen, I doubt we're
900
00:42:46,397 --> 00:42:47,699
gonna get to agree on this
at all...
901
00:42:47,733 --> 00:42:50,435
[ all speaking at once ]
- Just look at her face.
902
00:42:50,468 --> 00:42:52,537
She's dying inside.
903
00:42:52,570 --> 00:42:54,272
[ lighter clicks ]
904
00:42:54,305 --> 00:42:56,608
[ Phyllis
continues indistinctly ]
905
00:42:56,642 --> 00:43:00,045
- It would help if your friend
cracked a smile. She's winning.
906
00:43:00,078 --> 00:43:02,714
- ...discriminating
against women when they work,
907
00:43:02,748 --> 00:43:04,816
when they buy insurance,
and when they give birth.
908
00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:06,117
- No, well,
I don't work for anyone.
909
00:43:06,151 --> 00:43:07,786
- Oh, great,
so you're a patsy.
910
00:43:07,819 --> 00:43:09,054
Well, maybe you should stick
to baking
911
00:43:09,087 --> 00:43:10,321
and leave interpreting the laws
to the lawyers.
912
00:43:10,355 --> 00:43:12,457
- [ laughs ]
- [ exhales deeply ]
913
00:43:12,490 --> 00:43:15,160
[ coughing ]
- ...opinionated wives.
914
00:43:15,193 --> 00:43:18,997
But, seriously, let's bring
the fellas in on this.
915
00:43:19,030 --> 00:43:23,468
[ Tom Snyder
continues indistinctly ]
916
00:43:23,501 --> 00:43:26,972
- You're not gonna add
your name to my FBI file?
917
00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:29,841
- Well, we both do. Uh...
918
00:43:29,875 --> 00:43:33,144
- I never traveled to Cuba as
part of the Venceremos Brigade,
919
00:43:33,178 --> 00:43:34,980
by the way.
920
00:43:35,013 --> 00:43:38,016
- [ chuckles ]
When did you go through it?
921
00:43:38,049 --> 00:43:41,586
- When I sent you out
to get coffee for me.
922
00:43:41,619 --> 00:43:43,421
- Right.
- [ chuckles ]
923
00:43:43,454 --> 00:43:45,090
You should be more careful.
924
00:43:45,123 --> 00:43:48,860
- [ chuckles ]
925
00:43:48,894 --> 00:43:52,664
- I would like to go to Cuba
one day.
926
00:43:52,698 --> 00:43:54,365
- I'll take you.
927
00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:56,201
- This is a one-time thing.
928
00:43:56,234 --> 00:43:59,004
- Oh! Okay.
929
00:43:59,037 --> 00:44:00,772
Sure.
930
00:44:00,806 --> 00:44:04,009
You're still gonna be
my advisor, though, right?
931
00:44:04,042 --> 00:44:05,844
- Phyllis Schlafly, submissive?
932
00:44:05,877 --> 00:44:07,679
- I don't have time to consult
933
00:44:07,713 --> 00:44:09,848
with some man's
women's task force.
934
00:44:09,881 --> 00:44:13,518
- Right. Sure.
935
00:44:13,551 --> 00:44:18,189
[ playing
Chopin's "Étude Op. 10, No. 3" ]
936
00:44:18,223 --> 00:44:20,358
***
937
00:44:20,391 --> 00:44:21,693
- Sounds beautiful.
938
00:44:21,727 --> 00:44:23,361
[ stops playing ]
939
00:44:23,394 --> 00:44:25,363
- How was California?
940
00:44:25,396 --> 00:44:29,567
- Your father's cross with me...
941
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,871
for taking the LSAT.
942
00:44:32,904 --> 00:44:35,206
Doesn't want me to go
to law school.
943
00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,242
- It's the one thing left
that's all his.
944
00:44:44,249 --> 00:44:47,986
- Did I ever tell you the story
about how I quit smoking?
945
00:44:48,019 --> 00:44:49,654
- I didn't even know you smoked.
946
00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:52,724
- Oh, yes, I was a pack a day,
947
00:44:52,758 --> 00:44:55,226
and your father hated the habit.
948
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,595
He thought
it wasn't, uh, ladylike.
949
00:44:57,628 --> 00:44:59,664
[ chuckles ] Well, he was right.
950
00:44:59,697 --> 00:45:04,836
And, uh, he gave me a car
as a wedding present,
951
00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:08,506
and of course,
I didn't have a gift for him,
952
00:45:08,539 --> 00:45:13,745
so...I decided to give up
smoking.
953
00:45:13,779 --> 00:45:19,050
And the day of our wedding,
I smoked my last cigarette.
954
00:45:22,788 --> 00:45:26,424
Now was it hard to quit
cold turkey?
955
00:45:26,457 --> 00:45:28,093
Very.
956
00:45:28,126 --> 00:45:30,929
And do I have to force myself
957
00:45:30,962 --> 00:45:34,265
to resist the seduction
of cigarettes?
958
00:45:34,299 --> 00:45:37,002
Every single day.
959
00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:43,942
But the mind is stronger
than the body.
960
00:45:43,975 --> 00:45:47,478
You just have
to exercise willpower.
961
00:45:53,484 --> 00:45:56,788
Now did you, uh,
get your wallet?
962
00:45:56,822 --> 00:45:58,156
- Yes.
- Mm-hmm.
963
00:45:58,189 --> 00:45:59,825
- I saw it, thank you.
964
00:45:59,858 --> 00:46:03,728
- Must have, uh, fallen out
on the floor in the mudroom.
965
00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:06,798
I found it, and I left it
on your dresser.
966
00:46:06,832 --> 00:46:09,267
[ sighs ]
967
00:46:13,004 --> 00:46:16,507
You have to be more careful,
John.
968
00:46:18,877 --> 00:46:20,445
- I will.
969
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:32,523
- I had such trouble conceiving
after you were born.
970
00:46:37,195 --> 00:46:40,966
I thought maybe
you might be my only one.
971
00:46:48,206 --> 00:46:51,176
Now I'll need some help
with my jingles
972
00:46:51,209 --> 00:46:54,946
for my rally.
973
00:46:54,980 --> 00:46:56,181
- Girls are tired
of the old ones?
974
00:46:56,214 --> 00:46:58,683
- Hmm.
975
00:46:58,716 --> 00:47:00,118
- What rhymes with "alimony"?
976
00:47:00,151 --> 00:47:03,421
- [ chuckles ]
977
00:47:05,056 --> 00:47:08,426
[ playing intro to
Joplin's "The Entertainer" ]
978
00:47:10,228 --> 00:47:18,736
***
979
00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:19,804
[ door closes ]
980
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:22,573
[ typewriter keys clacking ]
981
00:47:30,848 --> 00:47:32,383
- Good to see you, Phyllis.
982
00:47:32,417 --> 00:47:35,153
- You're in here?
- I know.
983
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,655
Hard to believe.
984
00:47:37,688 --> 00:47:39,424
Senior partner.
985
00:47:39,457 --> 00:47:43,461
Uh, Fred's just down the hall.
I can take you if you'd like.
986
00:47:44,762 --> 00:47:46,264
- I can find it, thank you.
987
00:48:09,554 --> 00:48:11,589
- Mazel Tov.
- Hey.
988
00:48:11,622 --> 00:48:14,292
- Honey.
- Thank you.
989
00:48:14,325 --> 00:48:15,426
[ laughs ]
- Thank you.
990
00:48:15,460 --> 00:48:16,962
- Congratulations.
[ glasses clink ]
991
00:48:16,995 --> 00:48:18,363
- Yay.
992
00:48:18,396 --> 00:48:20,365
- We wanted to ask you...
993
00:48:20,398 --> 00:48:23,434
- Uh-huh.
- ...something important.
994
00:48:23,468 --> 00:48:25,937
Will you please be
the godparents?
995
00:48:25,971 --> 00:48:29,440
- We'd be honored.
- All right.
996
00:48:29,474 --> 00:48:31,376
All right! Come on!
- [ laughs ]
997
00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:33,378
- As long as it doesn't involve
changing any diapers.
998
00:48:33,411 --> 00:48:34,212
- No.
- [ laughs ]
999
00:48:34,245 --> 00:48:35,880
- Yes.
- Big year.
1000
00:48:35,913 --> 00:48:37,615
[ laughter ]
Yeah.
1001
00:48:37,648 --> 00:48:39,784
- It's a big year,
birthing a book and a baby.
1002
00:48:39,817 --> 00:48:42,787
- Oh, well, the baby was
considerably less work
1003
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:44,956
and infinitely more fun
to create.
1004
00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:46,624
Did Frank tell you?
1005
00:48:46,657 --> 00:48:48,059
He came up with
the perfect title for the book--
1006
00:48:48,093 --> 00:48:50,895
"The Male Machine."
- Huh.
1007
00:48:50,928 --> 00:48:52,297
[ Psychedelic Soul Crew's
"Can't Let Go" playing ]
1008
00:48:52,330 --> 00:48:54,665
Well...can't come soon enough.
1009
00:48:54,699 --> 00:48:56,734
We should send it
as a Christmas gift
1010
00:48:56,767 --> 00:48:58,669
to every chauvinist legislator
in Illinois
1011
00:48:58,703 --> 00:49:00,138
that voted against us.
1012
00:49:00,171 --> 00:49:01,572
- We'll get it done next year.
1013
00:49:01,606 --> 00:49:03,975
We should start talking about
raising money now.
1014
00:49:04,009 --> 00:49:05,977
[ bell dings ]
Dessert's ready.
1015
00:49:06,011 --> 00:49:08,980
- [ chuckles ] Let me help you.
1016
00:49:09,014 --> 00:49:10,982
* Can't let go
[ clink ]
1017
00:49:11,016 --> 00:49:14,219
- Here. I got you something.
1018
00:49:27,032 --> 00:49:30,168
- My, uh...my old one
works just fine.
1019
00:49:30,201 --> 00:49:32,037
- I stopped by the office
to give it to you,
1020
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:36,574
but you...you weren't there.
1021
00:49:39,877 --> 00:49:41,379
- Thank you.
1022
00:49:41,412 --> 00:49:48,386
- So if it's okay,
I might have this one.
1023
00:49:48,419 --> 00:49:51,022
I did very well on the LSATs,
1024
00:49:51,056 --> 00:49:56,127
and I have decided to apply
to Wash U.
1025
00:49:56,161 --> 00:49:57,528
Now it's close enough
1026
00:49:57,562 --> 00:49:59,197
that I'll be home
every night for dinner.
1027
00:49:59,230 --> 00:50:01,966
[ latches click ]
1028
00:50:01,999 --> 00:50:03,734
- You really don't need
to work this hard.
1029
00:50:03,768 --> 00:50:06,037
[ latches click ]
1030
00:50:06,071 --> 00:50:08,906
Lots of people don't want
the ERA to go through.
1031
00:50:08,939 --> 00:50:11,076
They won't let you fail.
1032
00:50:12,910 --> 00:50:18,149
***
1033
00:50:18,183 --> 00:50:19,917
[ TV turns on ]
1034
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:22,753
- ...one young man on our team
to maybe win the championship...
1035
00:50:22,787 --> 00:50:25,590
[ man on TV
continues indistinctly ]
1036
00:50:25,623 --> 00:50:34,099
***
1037
00:50:34,132 --> 00:50:37,402
- We're so excited to start
a family.
1038
00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:41,772
[ faucet turns off ]
That sounds boring to you,
1039
00:50:41,806 --> 00:50:47,378
but...I think maybe I'm more
conventional than I thought.
1040
00:50:49,214 --> 00:50:52,083
I've always wanted to be
a mother.
1041
00:50:52,117 --> 00:50:57,388
- You're going to be
a wonderful mother.
1042
00:50:59,290 --> 00:51:01,192
[ dish clatters ]
1043
00:51:01,226 --> 00:51:03,794
[ scrubbing dish ]
1044
00:51:03,828 --> 00:51:07,365
I was thinking about hiring
Jules to do a photo shoot
1045
00:51:07,398 --> 00:51:09,600
for our next cover.
1046
00:51:09,634 --> 00:51:12,970
I wanted to check with you first
if that was okay.
1047
00:51:13,003 --> 00:51:16,474
- Of course. Of course.
1048
00:51:16,507 --> 00:51:20,145
- Why didn't you tell me?
1049
00:51:20,178 --> 00:51:23,614
- It was just a phase.
It's not who I am.
1050
00:51:23,648 --> 00:51:27,885
- It's okay if it is.
1051
00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,821
- What are you--are you gonna
call a press conference,
1052
00:51:30,855 --> 00:51:34,959
sit beside me and declare,
"We are all lesbians"?
1053
00:51:34,992 --> 00:51:38,296
Where's Kate Millett now?
1054
00:51:38,329 --> 00:51:41,166
[ TV playing indistinctly ]
1055
00:51:50,841 --> 00:51:53,311
We should coordinate
our fundraising trips
1056
00:51:53,344 --> 00:51:55,045
with Marc's book stops.
1057
00:51:58,449 --> 00:52:00,318
- [ sighs ]
I might take a step back
1058
00:52:00,351 --> 00:52:06,157
from the public speaking
and... [ sighs ] organizing.
1059
00:52:06,191 --> 00:52:09,026
I wanna get back
into my writing,
1060
00:52:09,059 --> 00:52:11,196
finish my book.
1061
00:52:11,229 --> 00:52:13,030
[ carousel music playing ]
1062
00:52:13,063 --> 00:52:15,333
- Hey, it's starting.
1063
00:52:15,366 --> 00:52:20,171
***
1064
00:52:20,205 --> 00:52:23,174
* There's a land that I see
1065
00:52:23,208 --> 00:52:26,277
* Where the children are free
1066
00:52:26,311 --> 00:52:29,214
* And I say it ain't far
1067
00:52:29,247 --> 00:52:32,450
* To this land
from where we are *
1068
00:52:32,483 --> 00:52:35,186
* Take my hand, come with me
1069
00:52:35,220 --> 00:52:38,523
* Where the children are free
1070
00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:41,692
* Come with me, take my hand
1071
00:52:41,726 --> 00:52:44,895
* And we'll live
1072
00:52:44,929 --> 00:52:48,199
* In a land
where the river runs free *
1073
00:52:48,233 --> 00:52:50,801
* In a land
through the green country *
1074
00:52:50,835 --> 00:52:54,071
* In a land to a shining sea
1075
00:52:54,104 --> 00:52:56,907
* In a land
where the horses run free *
1076
00:52:56,941 --> 00:53:00,745
* And you and me
are free to be *
1077
00:53:00,778 --> 00:53:02,747
* You and me
1078
00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:09,887
***
1079
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,557
* Every boy in this land
1080
00:53:12,590 --> 00:53:15,893
* Grows to be his own man
1081
00:53:15,926 --> 00:53:18,929
* In this land, every girl
1082
00:53:18,963 --> 00:53:22,099
* Grows to be her own woman
1083
00:53:22,132 --> 00:53:25,403
* Take my hand, come with me
1084
00:53:25,436 --> 00:53:28,239
* Where the children are free
1085
00:53:28,273 --> 00:53:31,242
* Come with me, take my hand
1086
00:53:31,276 --> 00:53:34,579
* And we'll run
1087
00:53:34,612 --> 00:53:37,682
* To a land
where the river runs free *
1088
00:53:37,715 --> 00:53:40,585
* To a land
through the green country *
1089
00:53:40,618 --> 00:53:43,621
* To a land
where the children are free *
1090
00:53:43,654 --> 00:53:47,191
* And you and me
are free to be *
1091
00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:49,627
* You and me
1092
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:05,142
Our women do not
consider themselves
1093
00:54:05,175 --> 00:54:06,844
enslaved by marriage.
1094
00:54:09,447 --> 00:54:14,719
And they certainly
do not want to sacrifice
their present privileges
1095
00:54:14,752 --> 00:54:17,355
for some phony equality
with men.
1096
00:54:25,596 --> 00:54:26,631
What is Devs?
1097
00:54:28,866 --> 00:54:30,301
What is Devs?
1098
00:54:30,335 --> 00:54:31,436
What is Devs?
1099
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:34,639
What is Devs?
1100
00:54:34,672 --> 00:54:35,606
(horn honks)
1101
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:36,507
What is Devs?
1102
00:54:37,207 --> 00:54:38,476
What is Devs?
1103
00:54:39,444 --> 00:54:40,478
What is Devs?
1104
00:54:55,626 --> 00:54:57,294
GUILLERMO:
The journey was perilous,
1105
00:54:57,328 --> 00:55:00,998
but Nandor the Relentless
stood tall and proud.
1106
00:55:01,031 --> 00:55:05,503
Thus, the noble vampire set sail
to conquer the new world
1107
00:55:05,536 --> 00:55:07,838
for the greater glory
of the undead.
1108
00:55:07,872 --> 00:55:11,208
-Does my hair
really look that billowy?
-(wind blows)
1109
00:55:11,241 --> 00:55:12,843
Looks fantastic.
1110
00:55:12,877 --> 00:55:15,312
I'd never wear anything
like that.
1111
00:55:16,481 --> 00:55:18,849
(retching)
1112
00:55:21,352 --> 00:55:23,788
(gagging, coughing)
1113
00:55:23,821 --> 00:55:24,822
(squeaks)
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