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(intense electronic music)
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(haunting music)
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- [Jeff] I've got a question.
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How long do you think we humans have?
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- How long does the human race have?
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- Ooh.
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- Um.
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- Oh, wow.
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- I don't exactly know, but might be soon.
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- I have no clue.
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- [Jeff] No? (laughing)
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- I hope I get me at least 50 more years. (laughing)
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- I think there's infinite amount of time.
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- Infinite.
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It's infinite, yeah.
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- I give us a million.
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A million years.
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- Being kind, I would say probably about 10 years.
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- 10, 12 years.
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- Thousands of years.
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- 47 years, three months, five days.
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It's approximate.
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- We're kind of like cockroaches on the planet,
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no matter how much damage we'll do,
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enough of us will survive to procreate and keep it going.
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- Unless we can get to another planet,
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but then we're just gonna fuck it up like we did Earth.
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- Well, I think that we will be here
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for a long time, but we will change.
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We're gonna turn back into apes.
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- [Jeff] Have you ever wondered what would happen
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if a single species took over an entire planet?
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Maybe they're cute, maybe they're clever
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but lack a certain,
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shall we say,
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self-restraint?
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What if they go too far?
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What if they go way, way, way,
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way, way too far?
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(somber dramatic music)
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How would they know when it's their time to go?
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(music fading)
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(old-timey music)
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- Due to our release through factories
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and automobiles every year
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of more than six billion tons of carbon dioxide,
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our atmosphere seems to be getting warmer.
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- This is bad?
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- Well, it's been calculated a few degrees rise
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in the Earth's temperature would melt the polar ice caps.
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(crashing ice into water)
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And if this happens, an inland sea would fill a good portion
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of the Mississippi valley.
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Foreign weather, we're not only dealing with forces
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of a far greater variety
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than even the atomic physicists encounters,
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but with life itself.
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- [Jeff] That was 1958.
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We've known about the dangers
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of climate change for six decades.
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Back then, there was so much air pollution
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it would actually block out the sun.
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There was so much water pollution, rivers caught on fire.
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Forget throwing plastic bottles into the water,
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we tossed our cars in there.
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We also knew someday we'd run out of oil.
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- For millions of Americans,
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this may be the worst weekend they've ever faced
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for finding gasoline to give them the automobile freedom
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they take as their due.
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- [Jeff] I never doubted humans would find a better way
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and I wanted to be part of it.
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A scientist sounded the alarm
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and the modern environmental movement was born.
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- Unless we do bring these chemicals under better control,
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we are certainly headed for disaster.
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- [Jeff] Students all across the country
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organized the first Earth Day.
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- This point in time, it's very, very fashionable
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to talk about the environment
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but as everyday procedure, find very,
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very little concrete being done.
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- [Jeff] As for me, you might say
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I was an early environmentalist.
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When I was nine years old,
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a bulldozer began knocking down the woods near my home.
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I retaliated by putting sand in its gas tank.
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When I grew up, I became a tree hugger and moved
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to the wilds of Northern Michigan
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to build a sustainable homestead and commune with nature.
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I wired my cabin for solar panels
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and heated with wood instead of fossil fuels.
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I wrote about sustainable living
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in environmental issues for the Mother Earth News
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and several news outlets.
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(mellow singing)
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I traveled the country documenting invasive species.
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(banging and clunking)
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(buzzing) Ecosystem collapse.
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And species threatened with extinction.
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- (tapping) Come on, girls, boys.
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(crowd chanting)
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- I covered protests against destroying mountains for coal.
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(people shouting and clapping)
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And was once even confronted by the BP police.
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(car tires crunching)
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- Journalist. - You're a journalist?
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- [Jeff] Yep, yep, yeah.
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- By all means, you can take all the pictures you want.
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- [Jeff] Okay.
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- We'll write in our report and then we have to send it
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to the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys Office.
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They'll call you.
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(traffic whizzing)
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- [Jeff] Through all of this, I kept wondering,
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why are we still addicted to fossil fuels?
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So I decided to begin following the green energy movement.
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(mild rock music)
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What better place to check out
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how our renewable energy revolution is coming along,
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than a solar festival
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in the Green Mountain state of Vermont.
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Powered by 100% solar energy.
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(bass guitar and guitar music)
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- Solar. (laughing)
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- [Jeff] I was having fun.
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And got a chance to ask
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about getting solar panels installed.
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- You can keep adding, so maybe every time
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you get a tax return, buy another solar panel?
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- [Jeff] But then, a little rain began to fall.
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(rock band playing and singing)
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♪ Packed up my guitar ♪
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♪ Headed to the nearest bowling alley ♪
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My camera man noticed some commotion behind the stage.
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(thudding)
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- [Jeff] What'd you guys set up here?
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- This is for biodiesel generators
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in case we lose power due to the rain.
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- [Jeff] So the festival's going
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on solar energy, primarily?
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- Primarily.
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We do need to bring some of this stuff
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in just 'cause we want to make sure
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we have enough power not to kill our fancy toys
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that we have lighting the stage.
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- [Jeff] Right.
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- But the biofuel generator wasn't enough,
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so they wound up plugging
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into the electrical grid that we all use.
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- The other inverter operating,
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it's actually pulling power in from the grid,
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charging the batteries.
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(background chatter)
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It's running backwards from the way
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we originally intended to do it, but.
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- [Jeff] That was disappointing.
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(singing)
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But after all, it had been raining.
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Maybe next time things would go better.
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Luckily for us, hope was on the way.
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- It's been a long time comin' but tonight,
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change has come to America.
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(crowd cheering)
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(guitar music)
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- [Jeff] Green activists across the country cheered
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when newly elected president, Barack Obama,
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rolled out a trillion dollar stimulus package
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with nearly 100 billion dollars for green energy.
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(guitar strumming and people chanting)
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Green was finally ramping up
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and everyone wanted to be part of it.
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President Obama brought in environmental activist Van Jones,
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from the Apollo Alliance, with shovel ready projects.
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- They've gotta put up tens of thousands of wind farms,
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they gotta put up millions of solar panels.
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- [Jeff] Former Vice President Al Gore,
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who had a few years earlier released an Oscar winning film,
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shared his ideas with the president.
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- We have the opportunity now
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to create jobs all across this country,
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in all 50 states, to re-power America.
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- [Jeff] Al Gore had already encouraged
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billionaire airline owner, Sir Richard Branson,
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to invest big-time in green energy.
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- Branson is pledging future profits from his airline
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to the tune of perhaps three billion dollars.
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Three billion, that's with a B, to fight global warming!
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- Is Al Gore a prophet?
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(laughing)
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- Ah, um, ah, how do you spell "prophet?" (laughing)
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(all laughing)
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- [Jeff] Investors came forward.
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- [Newswoman] Investor Vinod Khosla, known as the father
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of the clean tech revolution,
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has poured over a billion dollars of his own money
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into some fifty energy startups.
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- [Jeff] Major banks were eager to get involved.
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- By 2020, we think, renewables will require
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395 billion on an annual basis.
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- [Jeff] Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.,
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was both on the board of major environmental organizations
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and was leading a green energy investment group.
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- We build wind farms, we build solar farms,
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once you build our plant, it's free energy forever.
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(calm music)
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- [Jeff] The Sierra Club received 50 million dollars
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from billionaire and former New York City mayor,
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Michael Bloomberg.
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Their mission?
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Fight coal and promote clean energy.
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- So with the mayor's gift, here's what will happen.
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We'll have a large and aggressive presence in 46 states.
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- It's time for America to find a new energy path.
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One that takes us beyond coal.
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- So funny--
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- [Jeff] And then Bill McKibben,
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one of the nation's leading environmentalists
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and author of a breakthrough book called
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"The End of Nature,"
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formed an organization called 350.org
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with the mission of igniting a global climate movement.
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(calming music)
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- Can I show off my necktie for a minute
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'cause they made it for me yesterday.
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It's got that 350 on it
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'cause it's the most important number in the world.
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- [Jeff] Things were looking up.
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And the green energy revolution was under way.
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(wind blowing)
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Michigan had been hit hard by the Great Recession
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and hundreds of millions of dollars
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in green stimulus money was arriving.
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Now, to do their part for the new green economy,
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General Motors introduced a new line of electric vehicles.
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When the Chevy Volt was ready for release,
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I attended their press conference.
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- So, these electric vehicles are ready
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for public consumption and we're ready
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with the infrastructure, with the rates,
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with the communications.
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- I am extremely grateful to be here today and in fact,
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this is a chance for me to say, thank you, more formally.
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The Chevy Volt is upstairs.
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We'll be able to take a look at it.
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(banging metal)
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- [Woman] We got about 1,000 photos.
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- [Jeff] Yeah.
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- Here is the plug.
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(crowd laughing)
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(clicking)
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It's as simple as that.
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- [Jeff] The batteries are in the trunk?
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- No, the battery in this particular design is a T-shape,
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right down the center and across the backseat area.
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'Cause everybody thought we killed the electric vehicle.
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No, we didn't.
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It's alive and well.
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- [Jeff] So, what's charging the batteries right now?
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What's the source of electricity?
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- Well, here, it's coming from the building.
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- [Jeff] I mean, is it, what's our mix of power?
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- Oh, actually, Lansing feeds the building.
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- [Jeff] What's that?
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- Lansing feeds power to the building.
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So, I don't know--
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- [Jeff] They're--
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- I betcha they're a bit of coal?
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I think they're heavy on natural gas, aren't they?
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- [Jeff] Right now, the car's charging off your grid?
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- Right.
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It would be charging off our grid, which is about 95% coal.
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- [Jeff] How long do you think it will be
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before there's a solar and wind powered grid?
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- Oh, golly.
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- To suggest that all of the power used
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for these cars will be generated from wind and solar,
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in the very near future, would not be correct.
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In fact, these, we're talking about charging these up
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at night, so there won't be any solar at that time.
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So, we're down to wind and very often,
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at night, the wind does fall off.
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- I don't think coal is bad.
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The what? - The big val--
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Mountain top removal.
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- Oh, mount...
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Oh yeah, oh yeah. (laughing)
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- [Jeff] Yeah.
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- It's got lovely BTUs, it's got lovely energy value.
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How do you burn it more cleanly?
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I mean, do you see natural gas getting bashed?
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- We will be delivering power based
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on natural gas very shortly.
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And even with that mix, we intend to use biofuels if we can.
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- [Jeff] Have you gotten any support?
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- Oh, the environment groups are extremely supportive.
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- We did install the state's largest solar array
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at my company, The Board of Water and Lights,
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just down the street from here a few miles
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if you want to take a look at it.
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What outfit are you with?
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- [Jeff] New World Media, we're doing a segment
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on the renewable energy.
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- Oh, excuse, I gotta go for a second.
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- [Jeff] Okay, sure.
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- Thanks.
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(people chatting)
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- [Jeff] I decided to take him up on his offer
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to check out their football field sized solar array
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right down the street.
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- What we're trying to do with this kind of a tour is,
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get a sense for what they've already done,
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as an indication of what we could do
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to push the envelope even further.
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- We took a hard look at wind and determined that,
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around here, there's not really any real good wind coming
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through all the time.
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That's what we liked about solar.
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You would get the power when you most needed it.
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Pass these around, look at 'em.
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They are pliable.
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Made in Michigan, that was another good thing.
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Although, the efficiency
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of these panels is only about, just under 8%.
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If you happen to be NASA and you happen
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to own a rover running around Mars,
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they have very efficient panels.
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But, we can't afford those
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at about a million dollars a square inch.
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- [Jeff] How many homes would
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this array provide electricity for?
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- The standard answer that we tell everybody is,
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that we're providing enough
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to meet the peak requirements of 50 homes.
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However, for most of the people that look
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at it a little bit closer,
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we generate about 63, 64 thousand kilowatt hours a year.
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Our average customer uses
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about six thousand kilowatt hours a year.
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Six thousand into 64, it's just a little over 10.
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We can meet the energy requirements for 10 homes.
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Over a year.
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(traffic humming)
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- Will that be an incentive to put more solar on?
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- Well, if you wanted to make all
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of the energy required for the city of Lansing over a year?
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- Well, how about--
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- You'd have a solar array
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that was three miles by five miles.
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- Right.
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But-- - We're not gonna do that.
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- But, but, I mean. (woman's voice fades out)
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- [Jeff] My friend from the Sierra Club wanted him
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to be more positive, but he was not interested.
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(wind blowing)
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As a consequence of the big push for green energy,
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wind farms were arising around the nation,
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including near my home in northern Michigan.
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- We've done coal and nuclear for years.
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We've been trying to get in more into the renewable side.
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These are the largest in Michigan,
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I think it's 482 foot total.
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- [Jeff] How many yards of concrete?
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- [John] It was 800 yards of concrete in the base,
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right around 140 tons of resteel.
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- [Jeff] What are those blades made out of?
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- That's all fiberglass and balsam.
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They're about 36,000 pounds a piece.
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This tower will weigh 800,000 pounds when we're done.
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Then the cell is 220,000 pounds
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and the hub rotor assembly is another 160.
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It's pretty substantial.
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(wind blowing)
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- [Jeff] They were impressive machines.
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(wind blowing)
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But is it possible for machines made
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by industrial civilization
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to save us from industrial civilization?
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(wind blowing)
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(group talking together)
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In environmental leader Bill McKibben's home state
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of Vermont, the Green Mountain state,
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a site was being cleared
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for the installation of wind turbines.
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A group of citizens was concerned
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about how the construction
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might affect the mountains they love.
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I joined them for a tour.
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- It's going to be 21 turbines.
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- [Group] 21?
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- Yeah. - On this project?
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- In this project, yeah.
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The estimate was maybe there would be three full-time jobs.
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- If the goal is to try to make Vermont the leader
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in climate change, I appreciate looking
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to the sky in the hopes we can do that.
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But more importantly, I'm personally looking
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at the ground thinking, this is not the kind of legacy
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I want to leave to my kids.
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When I was a kid we'd go hiking in these woods,
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we would be able to drink from the waters
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down the hill here, and now you have to question that.
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- [Jeff] And how long are these towers supposed to last?
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- [Man] 20-something years, 20--
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- I know, it's just a nanosecond.
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- [Jeff] 20 years?
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- Oh, it's a nanosecond in the time of energy.
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- [Jeff] Has anybody considered
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that this is mountain top removal for wind instead of coal?
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- Yeah, and we've even had people say,
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"If you can do mountain top removal
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"in Kentucky and West Virginia for coal,
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"then it's about time the rest of the country shared
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"in mountain top removal, too."
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Uh-oh.
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- [Jeff] You think he's gonna tell us to move out?
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- [Man In Hat] Probably.
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The thing is that you've got
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to have a fossil fuel power plant backing it up
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and idling 100% of the time.
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Because if you cycle up or cycle down,
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as the demand on the wind comes through,
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then you actually generate a bigger carbon footprint
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than if you just ran it straight.
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- [Jeff] Do you ever go to things where they just go,
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"That's not true.
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"It doesn't matter, we're gonna have a smart grid."
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- Doesn't make any difference, they still gotta--
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- They're using it. - Have it idling.
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Because, let's just say the wind stopped right now.
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Just stopped for an hour.
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You've got to have that power.
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- [Jeff] What do you do?
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- I'm an environmental health and safety consultant.
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I usually work with businesses to help them do things,
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but I would never work with scum like this.
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(leaves crunching)
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- You didn't get me on camera doing this, did ya?
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Not being judgmental or trying to play God,
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but we've got to deal with population growth
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and sustainable resources, we've all gotta cut back.
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All this energy's supposedly going to heat a water park.
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We can find unique and different ways to waste energy.
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This is not a Vermont company.
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Green Mountain Power will be bought out by Gaz Metro
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and Gaz Metro is owned by Enbridge, as I understand it,
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which is a big resource company in Canada
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which is exploiting the PowerSands
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that wants to build the XL pipeline.
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See, it's--
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- [Woman] And they're all in bed together.
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- Still we don't know the whole story.
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- [Jeff] Have you asked Mr. McKibben to come see this?
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- He thinks anything renewable is good.
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- [Jeff] Yeah.
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- So that's what I've heard people say.
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(wind blowing)
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(up tempo music)
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- [Jeff] I am in a strange position.
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I'm against our addiction to fossil fuels
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and have long been a fan of green energy.
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(crowd talking)
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But everywhere I encountered green energy,
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it wasn't what it seemed.
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- This is like a perpetual energy battery.
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- [Jeff] And where do you get the hydrogen from?
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- The hydrogen that's in, the hydrogen is sourced
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from any hydrocarbon material.
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So, you can get it from natural gas, you can get it
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from any petroleum oil based product.
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- [Jeff] I read about a zoo that was said
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to be powered by elephant manure.
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But it turned out the elephants
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didn't even produce enough manure to heat the elephant barn.
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- Yeah, we don't even really make enough
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and what we had, elephant wise, couldn't even do that.
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We would need a lot more.
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- [Jeff] More elephants?
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- [Zoo Keeper] Yep, (woman laughing) more elephants
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or manure.
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- [Jeff] Ethanol plants also seem
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to have a secret ingredient.
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- This is the most productive farmland in the world
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and we're not that far west of the biggest coal mines
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in the world, as well.
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So, bring the two together and have an ethanol plant.
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- [Jeff] Great, so ethanol was reliant on two things.
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A giant, fossil fuel based, industrial agricultural system
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to produce corn and even more fossil fuels,
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in the form of coal.
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All of this in the attempt to replace fossil fuels?
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It was enough to make my head explode.
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(pulsating music)
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I was getting the uneasy feeling
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that green energy was not going to save us.
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And I wasn't the only one.
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- I've counted something
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like 25 different alternative energy options.
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So surely, among all of those,
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there are enough sources
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of energy to keep us living basically
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the way we are in perpetuity.
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That's not the reality.
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Currently, we're getting, in some cases,
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no energy from these potential options.
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- [Jeff] Richard York, of the University of Oregon,
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published a study in the Journal of Nature
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in which he posed a question, "Do non-fossil energy sources
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"actually replace fossil fuels?"
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- What we implicitly assume, often,
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the substitute pushes out
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the thing you want it to substitute for.
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What you find is,
527
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nations that add non-fossil energy sources do not seem
528
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to see a particular suppression of fossil fuels.
529
00:23:05,980 --> 00:23:07,420
- [Jeff] That's pretty mind blowing.
530
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:09,380
You've got billions of dollars beings spent
531
00:23:09,380 --> 00:23:12,210
and green energy is not even replacing fossil fuels?
532
00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:14,819
- They don't even know that that's a question, yes.
533
00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:19,810
- The story that we're in, right now, is okay,
534
00:23:19,809 --> 00:23:21,960
we're in ecological hot water,
535
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,900
but there are technological fixes
536
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,790
and if we're just creative enough,
537
00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:27,519
if we're just ingenious enough
538
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,639
and if we just work hard enough, we will triumph.
539
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,860
Seeking technological fixes, one after another,
540
00:23:33,859 --> 00:23:37,599
is simply going to lead us to another level
541
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,629
of catastrophe sooner rather than later.
542
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:43,550
- We wanna believe that these things are gonna be available
543
00:23:43,549 --> 00:23:46,579
for us, so if we get a little worried
544
00:23:46,579 --> 00:23:50,769
and somebody comes up with a new thingy and promises
545
00:23:50,769 --> 00:23:55,769
that this will do it for us, we wanna believe it.
546
00:23:56,388 --> 00:23:59,832
(guitar strums)
547
00:23:59,833 --> 00:24:01,833
- [Jeff] Because we're a little worried,
548
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:06,490
are we desperate to accept any idea that sounds alternative?
549
00:24:06,490 --> 00:24:07,711
Or green?
550
00:24:07,711 --> 00:24:09,950
(guitar strumming)
551
00:24:09,950 --> 00:24:11,779
Are we avoiding looking too closely
552
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,903
because we don't want to know the answer?
553
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:21,320
Ozzie Zehner, a visiting scholar at UC Berkeley
554
00:24:21,319 --> 00:24:24,689
and Northwestern University was asking some
555
00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:26,083
of the same questions.
556
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,710
- I mean, I thought that solar
557
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:31,170
and wind were probably very good solutions.
558
00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:32,700
It wasn't really even that long ago.
559
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:36,450
One of the most dangerous things right now is the illusion
560
00:24:36,450 --> 00:24:39,740
that alternative technologies, like wind and solar,
561
00:24:39,740 --> 00:24:41,423
are somehow different from fossil fuels.
562
00:24:41,423 --> 00:24:43,930
What I hear a lot of times is solar cells
563
00:24:43,930 --> 00:24:44,960
are made out of sand.
564
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,110
- [Announcer] Have you ever thought about solar panels?
565
00:24:47,109 --> 00:24:48,029
The main ingredient
566
00:24:48,029 --> 00:24:50,399
that makes them work is silicon, or sand.
567
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:51,266
- [Announcer] This is the raw material chips
568
00:24:51,266 --> 00:24:53,940
are made of, sand.
569
00:24:53,940 --> 00:24:55,460
- They don't use sand at all.
570
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:57,011
I'll show you what...
571
00:24:57,011 --> 00:24:59,079
(chair clicking)
572
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,189
So, this is one of the ingredients,
573
00:25:02,190 --> 00:25:04,105
it's actually mined quartz.
574
00:25:04,105 --> 00:25:05,763
(rocks clattering)
575
00:25:05,763 --> 00:25:09,059
(rock exploding)
576
00:25:09,059 --> 00:25:11,099
- [Announcer] Spruce Pine, North Carolina,
577
00:25:11,099 --> 00:25:14,209
regarded as the finest source of high purity quartz
578
00:25:14,210 --> 00:25:16,539
in the world, the semiconductor, solar
579
00:25:16,539 --> 00:25:18,879
and communication applications.
580
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,530
- You can't use sand because sand has too many impurities.
581
00:25:21,529 --> 00:25:24,250
So, you start with very high quality quartz
582
00:25:24,250 --> 00:25:26,769
and a very high quality coal, and then you put
583
00:25:26,769 --> 00:25:30,950
those two together into an arc furnace and you melt them.
584
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:33,240
- [Woman] The quartz is then melted with coal
585
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in a large furnace at temperatures of up to 1,800 degrees.
586
00:25:38,140 --> 00:25:40,090
- And so you need more coal to do that.
587
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I'll get another coal out.
588
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When we melt these together,
589
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we get silicon metal and carbon dioxide.
590
00:25:47,079 --> 00:25:48,409
The carbon dioxide just goes off
591
00:25:48,410 --> 00:25:49,259
and you got rid of the carbon
592
00:25:49,259 --> 00:25:51,180
and you're left with silicon metal.
593
00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:52,388
This is not clean coal. (laughing)
594
00:25:52,387 --> 00:25:54,259
- [Jeff] Not clean coal.
595
00:25:54,259 --> 00:25:56,109
Ozzie Zehner said it was an illusion
596
00:25:56,109 --> 00:26:00,379
that renewables were replacing coal or any fossil fuel.
597
00:26:00,380 --> 00:26:03,480
Environmental groups continue telling a different story.
598
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,380
- We've already seen more than 25%
599
00:26:06,380 --> 00:26:10,170
of the U.S. coal fleet has already either retired
600
00:26:10,170 --> 00:26:11,940
or is on a schedule to retire.
601
00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:14,289
- [Jeff] Coal plants were closing, but Ozzie explained
602
00:26:14,289 --> 00:26:16,599
that well meaning people were being misled.
603
00:26:16,599 --> 00:26:18,959
- NV Energy's now gonna go ahead and shut down the plant
604
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:19,793
and go with renewable.
605
00:26:19,792 --> 00:26:21,378
One of the largest solar plants
606
00:26:21,378 --> 00:26:23,389
and that's gonna happen right behind me.
607
00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:25,790
- Since you can't replace a coal plant with solar,
608
00:26:25,789 --> 00:26:27,649
they're actually replacing the coal plant
609
00:26:27,650 --> 00:26:29,250
with two natural gas plants.
610
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:31,059
And natural gas is a fossil fuel.
611
00:26:31,059 --> 00:26:33,970
This is the Las Vegas Co-Gen natural gas plant.
612
00:26:33,970 --> 00:26:35,329
This is one of the facilities
613
00:26:35,329 --> 00:26:38,109
that's replacing the coal plant that's being shut down.
614
00:26:38,109 --> 00:26:41,240
This is the Sun Peak generating facility.
615
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,098
This is the second natural gas plant
616
00:26:43,098 --> 00:26:46,000
that was used to replace the coal plant.
617
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,259
And you hear the same story in Iowa.
618
00:26:48,259 --> 00:26:50,250
- [Woman] Instead of using energy generated
619
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:51,916
by coal-fired power plants,
620
00:26:51,916 --> 00:26:53,649
the solar farm will now avoid
621
00:26:53,650 --> 00:26:57,019
about 2.1 million pounds of carbon pollution.
622
00:26:57,019 --> 00:27:00,113
- But then they're building a larger natural gas plant.
623
00:27:01,269 --> 00:27:04,269
This is a 650 megawatt natural gas plant.
624
00:27:04,269 --> 00:27:05,980
That's four times more megawatts
625
00:27:05,980 --> 00:27:09,410
than the coal plant over there that it's replacing.
626
00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:11,360
And they're doing the same thing in North Carolina,
627
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,349
which was that subject
628
00:27:12,349 --> 00:27:15,209
of that Years of Living Dangerously series.
629
00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:17,039
- Duke Energy operates a coal plant right
630
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,299
outside of Asheville that is the biggest source
631
00:27:19,299 --> 00:27:22,470
of climate pollution in western North Carolina.
632
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:24,339
And we are working to retire that plant
633
00:27:24,339 --> 00:27:25,619
and replace it with clean energy.
634
00:27:25,619 --> 00:27:26,699
- But what they don't tell you is
635
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:29,670
that we're also building a larger natural gas facility.
636
00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:34,140
- So, we'll be retiring a two-unit 376 megawatt coal plant.
637
00:27:34,140 --> 00:27:36,800
We'll invest $750 million
638
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:39,339
to build a state-of-the-art natural gas plant.
639
00:27:39,339 --> 00:27:41,789
- When Michael Brune stands up and talks about clean energy,
640
00:27:41,789 --> 00:27:43,389
he's using solar cells and wind turbines.
641
00:27:43,390 --> 00:27:44,910
- This is the new world.
642
00:27:44,910 --> 00:27:46,940
100% clean energy.
643
00:27:46,940 --> 00:27:48,326
- When Michael Bloomberg stands up and says,
644
00:27:48,326 --> 00:27:51,069
"Cleaner energy," he's talking about natural gas.
645
00:27:51,069 --> 00:27:55,339
- Create cleaner energy, solar, wind and natural gas.
646
00:27:55,339 --> 00:27:57,809
- [Ozzie] In fact, the Sierra Club's Beyond Coal campaign
647
00:27:57,809 --> 00:28:00,899
actually coincides with one of the largest expansions
648
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,320
of fossil fuel production that we've ever pulled off.
649
00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:05,232
Most of that being natural gas.
650
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:07,300
- [Jeff] Ozzie's assertion
651
00:28:07,299 --> 00:28:10,289
that renewables were not replacing fossil fuels,
652
00:28:10,289 --> 00:28:12,950
if true, would upend all of our assumptions
653
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:15,603
about green energy and what was going to save us.
654
00:28:17,021 --> 00:28:18,349
(tranquil piano music)
655
00:28:18,349 --> 00:28:20,509
What would happen if I asked the same question
656
00:28:20,509 --> 00:28:22,052
to industry insiders?
657
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,420
Like, where do solar panels come from?
658
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:26,893
- Well, you do have to start with a mine.
659
00:28:26,893 --> 00:28:27,726
- [Jeff] Wait till you see my--
660
00:28:27,726 --> 00:28:29,370
(laughing)
661
00:28:29,369 --> 00:28:31,659
Or, what's stopping us from running the world
662
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:33,680
on 100% solar and wind?
663
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,440
- Well, intermittency is one of the major challenges.
664
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,850
- Good stability.
665
00:28:37,849 --> 00:28:40,359
- The sun's everywhere, except when it's not there.
666
00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:42,419
- There's a lot of developers that were flocking
667
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:45,370
to California, wanting to connect their solar farms
668
00:28:45,369 --> 00:28:46,202
and wind farms.
669
00:28:46,202 --> 00:28:47,869
The utilities would turn to me and my team
670
00:28:47,869 --> 00:28:51,769
to help them look at what the impact to their grid would be.
671
00:28:51,769 --> 00:28:52,859
- [Jeff] When we add solar cells
672
00:28:52,859 --> 00:28:54,000
or wind turbines to a grid,
673
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,750
do we get to shut off a coal plant?
674
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:58,789
- That's certainly the goal, the problem is,
675
00:28:58,789 --> 00:29:01,779
or the difference is that renewables are intermittent.
676
00:29:01,779 --> 00:29:03,990
All of the sudden, a cloud cover could come over
677
00:29:03,990 --> 00:29:07,329
and your solar generation could drastically decrease.
678
00:29:07,329 --> 00:29:08,759
And if you don't have something else there
679
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,150
to meet whatever the load is at that moment,
680
00:29:12,150 --> 00:29:14,300
then you're gonna have power outages.
681
00:29:14,299 --> 00:29:15,133
- [Jeff] So, we don't get
682
00:29:15,133 --> 00:29:17,000
to turn a fossil fuel power plant off
683
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,140
when the sun is shining or the wind is blowing?
684
00:29:19,140 --> 00:29:20,650
- Well, it's not that easy.
685
00:29:20,650 --> 00:29:23,360
We need to be able to back up that power
686
00:29:23,359 --> 00:29:26,569
to keep the system steady all the time
687
00:29:26,569 --> 00:29:28,189
so it doesn't collapse.
688
00:29:28,190 --> 00:29:32,400
Most likely that's through fast-acting gas plants,
689
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,210
but also what we call the base load plants,
690
00:29:35,210 --> 00:29:37,630
either nuclear or coal that are on all the time
691
00:29:37,630 --> 00:29:40,700
but that maybe can be dialed down during the day
692
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,269
and dialed up when demand starts rising.
693
00:29:44,269 --> 00:29:45,629
- [Jeff] Does it affect the efficiency
694
00:29:45,630 --> 00:29:48,180
to turn fossil fuel power plants on and off?
695
00:29:48,180 --> 00:29:49,013
- Oh, yeah.
696
00:29:49,012 --> 00:29:51,299
They don't like to be dialed up and down.
697
00:29:51,299 --> 00:29:54,549
It does make, that's wear and tear for them.
698
00:29:54,549 --> 00:29:58,299
- Turning them on, turning it off, there's energy used
699
00:29:58,299 --> 00:29:59,809
and lost and any time,
700
00:29:59,809 --> 00:30:01,339
kind of like when you turn on your car and off,
701
00:30:01,339 --> 00:30:02,409
you use a little extra gas
702
00:30:02,410 --> 00:30:03,720
to get it turned on.
703
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,610
I do still think you have
704
00:30:04,609 --> 00:30:06,459
to maintain a base load of some kinds.
705
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:07,700
- [Jeff] What's the solution then?
706
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:08,960
- You need energy storage.
707
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,160
- Without storage, you can't count on it.
708
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,810
- If you can store the energy that's created off
709
00:30:15,809 --> 00:30:19,210
of things that are intermittent like solar and wind,
710
00:30:19,210 --> 00:30:22,460
you can store that, now you're reducing your need
711
00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:23,559
for a base load.
712
00:30:23,559 --> 00:30:24,393
- [Jeff] But would adding storage
713
00:30:24,393 --> 00:30:27,069
like batteries increase the carbon footprint?
714
00:30:27,069 --> 00:30:28,342
- Yeah, absolutely.
715
00:30:29,819 --> 00:30:31,129
In a big way, actually.
716
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:33,503
And as more energy storage gets on the grid,
717
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,701
it has a mass scale implication.
718
00:30:37,701 --> 00:30:38,539
(piano music)
719
00:30:38,539 --> 00:30:40,129
- [Jeff] When I looked up how much battery storage
720
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:42,310
there is, it was less than one-tenth
721
00:30:42,309 --> 00:30:43,932
of one percent of what's needed.
722
00:30:44,900 --> 00:30:47,200
In a couple years, they begin to degrade
723
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,343
and need to be replaced a few years later.
724
00:30:50,309 --> 00:30:53,129
I learned that the solar panels don't last forever, either.
725
00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:55,960
- Some solar panels are built to last only 10 years.
726
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,529
So, it's not as if you get this magic free energy.
727
00:31:00,529 --> 00:31:02,899
I don't know that it's the solution,
728
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:07,360
and here I am helping to sell the materials
729
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:09,009
that would go into photovoltaics.
730
00:31:10,819 --> 00:31:12,889
- [Jeff] And so to overcome profound limitations
731
00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:16,030
of solar and wind, rarely discussed in the media,
732
00:31:16,029 --> 00:31:18,220
a new generation of technology was rising
733
00:31:18,220 --> 00:31:19,573
in the California desert.
734
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:21,769
- [Woman] What is this?
735
00:31:21,769 --> 00:31:23,730
- What we're using is a field of mirrors
736
00:31:23,730 --> 00:31:26,140
to focus sunlight onto a tower.
737
00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:29,550
The power plant itself, at 377 megawatts,
738
00:31:29,549 --> 00:31:31,629
will be the largest of its kind in the world.
739
00:31:31,630 --> 00:31:34,000
- This will become the biggest solar plant in the world!
740
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,133
(crowd clapping and cheering)
741
00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:37,633
There's some people that look out in a dessert,
742
00:31:37,633 --> 00:31:40,779
they see miles and miles of emptiness.
743
00:31:40,779 --> 00:31:44,970
I see miles and miles of a gold mine.
744
00:31:44,970 --> 00:31:46,559
- [Jeff] But this next generation
745
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:49,009
had a fossil fuel secret, too.
746
00:31:49,009 --> 00:31:51,250
- This solar facility burns natural gas pretty much
747
00:31:51,250 --> 00:31:53,750
every morning in order to get it started up.
748
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:55,230
- [Jeff] How long do they have to burn it for it?
749
00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:56,730
- Hours, usually.
750
00:31:56,730 --> 00:31:59,539
This is the incoming natural gas for the facility.
751
00:31:59,539 --> 00:32:01,670
This plant would work about as well without natural gas
752
00:32:01,670 --> 00:32:03,360
as I would without coffee in the morning. (laughing)
753
00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:05,217
- [Jeff] Or maybe how you would be without food.
754
00:32:05,218 --> 00:32:06,720
- Without food, yeah. (laughing)
755
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,900
They have to file for acid rain permits,
756
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:11,080
permits for nitrous oxide emissions,
757
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:14,210
they have to apply for carbon offset permits.
758
00:32:14,210 --> 00:32:16,210
Because they're producing carbon dioxide here,
759
00:32:16,210 --> 00:32:17,690
so they have to offset that.
760
00:32:17,690 --> 00:32:20,259
The whole thing is built using fossil fuel infrastructure,
761
00:32:20,259 --> 00:32:22,920
from the concrete to the steel to the mirrors,
762
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,600
to the backing on the mirrors.
763
00:32:24,599 --> 00:32:29,379
The sun is renewable, but the solar arrays are not.
764
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:30,213
- [Jeff] Oh, come on.
765
00:32:30,212 --> 00:32:31,460
There's got to be something renewable.
766
00:32:31,460 --> 00:32:32,740
Glass is renewable.
767
00:32:32,740 --> 00:32:33,710
- Glass. (laughing)
768
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:34,960
Glass is not renewable.
769
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,390
- [Jeff] Iron's renewable.
770
00:32:36,390 --> 00:32:38,220
(laughing)
771
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:39,053
Aluminum?
772
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:39,886
That's renewable.
773
00:32:39,885 --> 00:32:41,196
I recycle my soda cans.
774
00:32:41,196 --> 00:32:42,979
(laughing) I know it's renewable.
775
00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:44,829
- Yeah, the problem with all of these materials is
776
00:32:44,829 --> 00:32:48,669
that it takes an incredible amount of energy to mine
777
00:32:48,670 --> 00:32:51,080
and process all of the materials
778
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:52,819
that go into building something like this.
779
00:32:52,819 --> 00:32:55,442
You use more fossil fuels to do this
780
00:32:55,442 --> 00:32:58,240
than you're getting benefit from it.
781
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,029
You would have been better off just burning the fossil fuels
782
00:33:00,029 --> 00:33:03,329
in the first place, instead of playing pretend.
783
00:33:03,329 --> 00:33:04,669
- [Jeff] That green energy has nothing
784
00:33:04,670 --> 00:33:07,610
to do with fossil fuels is apparently a story
785
00:33:07,609 --> 00:33:09,740
only meant for you and me.
786
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Here is Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.,
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speaking to oil and gas company insiders.
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- It's a combination solar gas plant.
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It's a turbine that we just take from a gas plant,
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suspend it from a big scaffolding, a tower,
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and surround it by giant mirrors in the desert.
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The plants that we're building, the wind plants
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and the solar plants, are gas plants.
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- [Jeff] What kind of game is being played?
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- Well (gusting wind) we're basically just being fed a lie.
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For instance, you'll hear
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about Germany running on wind and solar.
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- 35% right now.
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- 50% of their power.
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- They were days this past summer
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when the Germans were generating 80%
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of their power from the sun.
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- [Ozzie] But Germany
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is still Europe's largest consumer of coal.
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- (speaking in foreign language)
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- Uhh.
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- [Ozzie] Only a small fraction
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of their energy actually comes from wind and solar.
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In fact, Germany just built a large terminal
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to import natural gas from the United States.
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Elon Musk, the founder of Tesla,
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when he announced his Gigafactory battery plant,
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he said it would power itself with wind and solar energy.
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- Through a combination of geothermal wind and solar,
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it will produce all energy that it needs.
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- [Ozzie] But in fact, it has lines connecting it
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to the same electrical grid that we're all connected to.
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(fast paced dramatic music)
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Electric cars, wind turbines
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and solar panels use rare earth metals.
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And in fact, the rare earth mine is
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right up the street from here.
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In mining these deep deposits, about 90%
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of what they pull up out of the ground contains uranium,
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thorium and low level of other radionuclides.
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Radioactive waste that has to be disposed of somehow,
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they kind of turn into a paste and spread it
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over the desert floor.
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- [Jeff] Well, that's good for the desert, right.
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- Yeah, the desert loves that.
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(laughing)
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Tesla's electric cars are built with aluminum,
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which uses eight times more energy
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to manufacture than steel.
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They use lithium, which also rely on toxic mining.
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And even more graphite, which is one
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of the rarest forms of carbon.
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In fact, the investors wanted
839
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to open several new graphite mines
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after Tesla announced the Gigafactory.
841
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Apple claims to be 100% renewable.
842
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- We never stop thinking about what's best for the planet.
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We now run Apple on 100% renewable energy.
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(clapping and cheering) All of our facilities, worldwide.
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- [Ozzie] And they did chop down a forest
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to put up solar panels near their North Carolina plant.
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But they didn't disconnect from the grid and they can't.
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- Duke says energy hungry companies
849
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like Apple can never go entirely off the grid.
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- They're still hooked up to our grid.
851
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(fast paced energetic music)
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- [Ozzie] Despite all the claims,
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I haven't found a single entity anywhere in the world
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that's running on 100% solar and wind alone.
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(suspenseful music)
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- [Jeff] It turns out, you don't just need fossil fuels
857
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to run a place like Ivanpah, you need the devil himself,
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or in this case, themselves.
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- [Ozzie] All of the mirrors that you see there are built
860
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by the Koch brothers, Guardian Glass Industry,
861
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a company that they control.
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Koch Carbon creates a lot of the inputs that are used
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to create the cement and the concrete and the steel.
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And not only that, they build the plants
865
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that builds polysilicon for solar cells.
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They have, actually,
867
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their own solar line called Solar Molex.
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From every step of the process, the Koch brothers are there.
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- [Jeff] But, they're the evil doers.
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- Yeah (laughing), the funny part is
871
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that when you criticize solar plants like this,
872
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you're accused of working for the Koch brothers.
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(laughing)
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That's the idiocy in all of this.
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This absolutely can not extend civilization's life.
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This relies on the most toxic and industrial processes
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that we've ever created.
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(drum rolling)
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(small triangle dinging)
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(pulsating dramatic music)
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(music building in intensity)
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(up tempo dramatic music)
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(music building)
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(music tempo increasing)
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(music ending dramatically)
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- The beauty of a solar facility,
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and particularly this technology,
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is that it is so environmentally benign.
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(roaring of large machinery)
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[Jeff] I, too, had once thought
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that deserts could be sacrifice zones.
892
00:39:42,922 --> 00:39:45,130
(powerful drum based music)
893
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I was wrong.
894
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Deserts are not dead.
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They are, in fact, full of ancient life.
896
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(powerful music)
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In the desert, the Joshua tree stands, waiting,
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waiting for the giant ground sloths
899
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and the mammoths that shall never return.
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The Joshua tree depended on the giant mammals
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to reach up high and eat their seeds,
902
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and thus disperse the Joshua tree.
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(mystical vocal music)
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But now, stranded in time and space,
905
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the Joshua tree awaits a new fate.
906
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To be sacrificed
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in the name of progress.
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- Joshua trees are torn down to make way for solar projects.
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23ABC's Cassie Carlisle travels
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to the Mojave Desert to talk to neighbors.
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- [Cassie] They're not your usual tree.
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More like something from fiction,
913
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but these Joshuas are causing quite an uproar.
914
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- No, it makes me sick that they're clearing them off,
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killing them real quick.
916
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And now they're grinding them up,
917
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getting rid of all the evidence.
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(powerful dramatic music)
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- [Jeff] Not far from Ivanpah Solar,
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Daggett, California was home
921
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to several generations of solar arrays.
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Including some of the first on the planet.
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(loud machinery)
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Ozzie and I thought we would take a trip
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to see where it all began.
926
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(wind blowing loudly)
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- This is one of the sunniest places in the planet, really,
928
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and it's the center of the solar industry
929
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and they've been building and dismantling
930
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and building arrays here for about 40 years.
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(man's voice on loudspeaker)
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- [Jeff] Then we happened to run
933
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into the mayor of Daggett.
934
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- And then the solar plants out there, my husband,
935
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back in, I'd say '83, '84, they worked out there building
936
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that solar plant out there.
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- Yeah, the SEGS.
938
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- And everybody here worked.
939
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- How's that hold up?
940
00:42:05,422 --> 00:42:07,109
Is it, are the jobs still here?
941
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- No.
942
00:42:07,943 --> 00:42:09,750
Jobs went bye-bye.
943
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They have their normal people that run the plant,
944
00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:13,649
plant operators and stuff like that,
945
00:42:13,650 --> 00:42:15,869
the big wigs, you know, they have that.
946
00:42:15,869 --> 00:42:18,079
Where that energy's going, I don't know.
947
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- [Jeff] Were you originally optimistic
948
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,134
that the solar would bring more jobs
949
00:42:22,134 --> 00:42:23,130
and development for people?
950
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- Yeah, we really did, we really did.
951
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A lot of things come into this town, they come and go.
952
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:28,825
They go really fast.
953
00:42:28,824 --> 00:42:32,009
(loud wind blowing)
954
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- Do you see this?
955
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- [Jeff] Then Ozzie and I discovered
956
00:42:36,130 --> 00:42:38,980
that the giant solar arrays had been razed to the ground.
957
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,318
- Oh, my God.
958
00:42:42,318 --> 00:42:43,409
(wind whooshing)
959
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- [Jeff] I mean, this was huge.
960
00:42:48,739 --> 00:42:51,189
It suddenly dawned on me what we were looking at.
961
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A solar dead zone.
962
00:42:55,659 --> 00:42:57,329
Look at the blowing sand.
963
00:42:57,329 --> 00:42:58,360
- Yeah.
964
00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,420
There's sand everywhere,
965
00:42:59,420 --> 00:43:01,760
there's sand dunes forming around this area.
966
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:02,593
- [Jeff] Wow.
967
00:43:04,704 --> 00:43:08,394
(humming of solar factory)
968
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(solemn music)
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00:43:17,630 --> 00:43:19,163
So, after all the mining,
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00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,349
the fossil fuels,
971
00:43:22,349 --> 00:43:24,000
the toxins,
972
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,742
the environmental destruction,
973
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here's what happens next.
974
00:43:28,907 --> 00:43:30,289
(somber music)
975
00:43:30,289 --> 00:43:32,789
Only a few years after it was built,
976
00:43:32,789 --> 00:43:35,192
things at Ivanpah began to fall apart.
977
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:39,883
Broken mirrors littered the desert.
978
00:43:43,364 --> 00:43:44,429
(music intensifying)
979
00:43:44,429 --> 00:43:46,119
Yes, these giant solar
980
00:43:46,119 --> 00:43:49,150
and wind technology installations may last
981
00:43:49,150 --> 00:43:50,590
only a few decades,
982
00:43:50,590 --> 00:43:52,739
(somber music)
983
00:43:52,739 --> 00:43:54,942
then tear it down and start all over again.
984
00:43:55,918 --> 00:43:58,501
(somber music)
985
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,990
If there is enough planet left.
986
00:44:02,552 --> 00:44:05,135
(somber music)
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00:44:06,929 --> 00:44:08,549
It was becoming clear that
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what we have been calling green, renewable energy
989
00:44:12,230 --> 00:44:15,253
and industrial civilization, are one and the same.
990
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:19,918
Desperate measures not to save the planet,
991
00:44:19,918 --> 00:44:21,480
(thunder crashing)
992
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,489
but to save our way of life.
993
00:44:23,489 --> 00:44:26,740
(somber music)
994
00:44:26,739 --> 00:44:30,319
Desperate measures rather than face the reality,
995
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,380
humans are experiencing the planet's limits
996
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all at once.
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- Every different perspective I look at
998
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and imagine, well, we could do more of this,
999
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or go to a larger area or use more of that.
1000
00:44:46,570 --> 00:44:48,890
Well, it turns out, there isn't more.
1001
00:44:48,889 --> 00:44:51,929
I looked at marine production and fish production
1002
00:44:51,929 --> 00:44:54,442
and found that peaked 20 years ago.
1003
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:59,313
More and more of what we eat is from fish farming.
1004
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,559
The current acres of actively farmed land,
1005
00:45:03,559 --> 00:45:05,559
that has peaked also.
1006
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:08,170
The rivers are already being irrigated
1007
00:45:08,170 --> 00:45:11,280
to about the limits of what they can sustain.
1008
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,833
The Colorado River doesn't get to the ocean anymore.
1009
00:45:15,679 --> 00:45:18,289
Well, then you start looking at ground water,
1010
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the southern great plains,
1011
00:45:20,210 --> 00:45:23,349
and I think they can almost predict when they will run out
1012
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of ground water and it's in a decade or two.
1013
00:45:26,047 --> 00:45:27,469
(somber music)
1014
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A human vulnerability at the global scale,
1015
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:35,280
that any one of them we could maybe compartmentalize,
1016
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,170
but we're seeing them propagating
1017
00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:42,170
across topic after topic of society and the earth system.
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00:45:43,264 --> 00:45:46,019
And I don't think the people
1019
00:45:46,019 --> 00:45:48,172
in charge are near nervous enough.
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- [Jeff] Though each
1021
00:45:54,983 --> 00:45:56,840
of them takes climate change seriously,
1022
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,090
every expert I talked to wanted
1023
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to bring my attention to the same, underlying problem.
1024
00:46:02,210 --> 00:46:07,110
- They're too many human beings using too much, too fast.
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- As a global community, we really have got
1026
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to start dealing with the issue of population.
1027
00:46:12,070 --> 00:46:15,350
- Population growth continues to be the,
1028
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:18,869
not the elephant, the herd of elephants, in the room.
1029
00:46:18,869 --> 00:46:20,309
- [Jeff] Can a single species
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that's come to dominate an entire planet--
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00:46:21,929 --> 00:46:26,909
- Be smart enough to voluntarily limit its own presence?
1032
00:46:26,909 --> 00:46:28,538
- [Jeff] Is there any precedence for that in nature?
1033
00:46:28,538 --> 00:46:30,170
(laughing)
1034
00:46:30,170 --> 00:46:31,003
- Wow.
1035
00:46:31,003 --> 00:46:35,163
- We have to have our abilities to consume reined in.
1036
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Because we're not good at reining them in
1037
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if there are seemingly unrestrained resources.
1038
00:46:43,070 --> 00:46:47,030
- Species hit the population wall a lot and then they crash.
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I mean, that's a common story in biology.
1040
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If that happens to us, in a way,
1041
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,659
it's the natural order of things.
1042
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And I don't think we're gonna find a way out of this one.
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I don't.
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- [Jeff] As a scientist,
1045
00:46:59,365 --> 00:47:01,019
what leads you to that conclusion?
1046
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- Well, because right now, a large percentage
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of that number is supported by industrial agriculture,
1048
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,599
which is heavily subsidized by oil.
1049
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,002
And it's not sustainable.
1050
00:47:15,976 --> 00:47:17,161
And there's no going back.
1051
00:47:17,161 --> 00:47:20,639
Without seeing some sort of major die off in population,
1052
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,022
there's no turning back.
1053
00:47:23,340 --> 00:47:24,273
- [Jeff] What's the thing that nobody ever asked you
1054
00:47:24,273 --> 00:47:25,840
that you want--
1055
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,860
(laughing)
1056
00:47:27,860 --> 00:47:29,809
- Nobody's ever asked me if I'm scared.
1057
00:47:30,909 --> 00:47:31,742
- [Jeff] Yeah.
1058
00:47:31,742 --> 00:47:32,576
- And, I am.
1059
00:47:32,576 --> 00:47:33,519
I actually am scared.
1060
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:35,530
I lose sleep over all of this.
1061
00:47:36,364 --> 00:47:38,947
(somber music)
1062
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,610
- [Jeff] It took modern humans tens of thousands
1063
00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:47,623
of years to reach a population of 700 million.
1064
00:47:48,750 --> 00:47:50,579
And then we tapped into millions of years
1065
00:47:50,579 --> 00:47:53,599
of stored energy, known as fossil fuels.
1066
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,462
Our human population exploded.
1067
00:47:56,340 --> 00:48:00,289
It increased by 10 times in a mere 200 years.
1068
00:48:00,289 --> 00:48:02,529
Our consumption has also exploded.
1069
00:48:02,530 --> 00:48:04,910
On average, ten times per person,
1070
00:48:04,909 --> 00:48:07,362
and many times more in the Western world.
1071
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,170
You put the two together,
1072
00:48:10,170 --> 00:48:14,130
the result is a total human impact 100 times greater
1073
00:48:14,130 --> 00:48:16,307
than only 200 years ago.
1074
00:48:16,306 --> 00:48:18,879
(mellow music)
1075
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,963
And that is the most terrifying realization I have ever had.
1076
00:48:25,570 --> 00:48:29,202
We humans are poised for a fall from an unimaginable height.
1077
00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:32,483
Not because of one thing.
1078
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,132
Not climate change alone.
1079
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,480
But all the human-caused changes
1080
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,083
the planet is suffering from.
1081
00:48:41,617 --> 00:48:43,179
(slow tempo music)
1082
00:48:43,179 --> 00:48:46,399
So, why are bankers, industrialists
1083
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,280
and environmental leaders only focused
1084
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,523
on the narrow solution of green technology?
1085
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:53,753
Is it the profit motive?
1086
00:48:55,429 --> 00:48:58,440
And why, for most of my life, have I fallen
1087
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,980
for the illusion green energy would save us?
1088
00:49:00,980 --> 00:49:04,396
(waves lapping on shore)
1089
00:49:05,371 --> 00:49:06,204
(squeaking door)
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00:49:06,204 --> 00:49:08,090
Clearly, to answer this question,
1091
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I needed professional help.
1092
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:11,570
- Keep my stuff.
1093
00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:13,650
No, I never heard...
1094
00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:15,530
- I'll just be honest with you about my dilemma.
1095
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:20,000
You can be my clinical social psych-- (laughing)
1096
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,722
It's like, the right has religion.
1097
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,420
And they have a belief in infinite fossil fuels.
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00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:30,077
Our side says, "Oh, it's gonna be okay,
1099
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"we're gonna have solar panels.
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"We're gonna have wind towers."
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Soon as I heard you talk about our denial of death,
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I'm like, "Could that be it?
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00:49:37,967 --> 00:49:40,586
"Could it be that we can't face our own mortality?
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"Could we have a religion that we're unaware of?"
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00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:43,663
- Absolutely.
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00:49:43,663 --> 00:49:47,010
I think you've hit the proverbial nail on the head.
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What just differentiates people from all other forms
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of life is that, we're not only here
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but that we know that we're here.
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If you know that you're here, then you recognize,
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00:49:59,260 --> 00:50:02,490
even dimly, that you'll not be here someday.
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And on top of that, we don't like that we're animals.
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So, we don't like that we're gonna die someday.
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We don't like that you could walk outside
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and get hit by a fuckin' meteor.
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What human beings did back
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in yesteryear is to envelop ourselves
1118
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in culturally constructive belief systems.
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You know, call them cultures,
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call them world views, schemes of things.
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00:50:25,329 --> 00:50:29,329
Whatever you call them, every human community has them.
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00:50:29,329 --> 00:50:33,500
Every culture has an account of the origin of the Universe.
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Every culture has a prescription
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00:50:35,110 --> 00:50:36,960
for how you're supposed to behave while you're here.
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And every culture offers its denizens hope of immortality,
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either literally or symbolically.
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Then the question is, well, what happens when you bump
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into people who don't share those beliefs?
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Whether you know it or not, whether you like it or not,
1130
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but that's undermining the confidence
1131
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with which you subscribe to your own views.
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And exposing you to the very anxiety
1133
00:51:02,110 --> 00:51:04,210
that those beliefs were constructed
1134
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to eradicate in the first place.
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If we're to make progress, whatever that word means,
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or even to persist as a form of life, we're gonna need
1137
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to radically overhaul our basic conception
1138
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of who and what we are, and what it is that we value.
1139
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Because the people that you referred to earlier,
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both on the left and the right
1141
00:51:29,519 --> 00:51:34,519
that think we're gonna be able to discover more oil.
1142
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:40,039
Or solar panel ourselves into the future,
1143
00:51:40,170 --> 00:51:43,460
where life will look pretty much like it does now.
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00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:45,630
You know, only cleaner or better.
1145
00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:47,269
- [Jeff] Either with more oil or greener oil.
1146
00:51:47,269 --> 00:51:48,103
- Or both.
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00:51:48,103 --> 00:51:51,210
I think that's just frankly delusional.
1148
00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:54,150
- What I'm hearing is that, if I haven't come to grips
1149
00:51:54,150 --> 00:51:58,039
with my own anxiety about death and life,
1150
00:51:58,039 --> 00:52:02,469
and presented with a reminder of that, I'm highly likely
1151
00:52:02,469 --> 00:52:07,339
to make some tragic decisions for the community.
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00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:08,430
- Yes.
1153
00:52:08,429 --> 00:52:13,429
The only solution in principle is, as Albert Camus put it,
1154
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:17,476
he said, "There's only one liberty, to come to terms
1155
00:52:17,476 --> 00:52:21,190
"with death, thereafter anything is possible."
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00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:24,403
I find that downright inspiring.
1157
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:27,860
- [Jeff] As for our environmental leaders,
1158
00:52:27,860 --> 00:52:29,970
who dwell in comfortable illusions,
1159
00:52:29,969 --> 00:52:32,622
how tragic of decisions were they capable of making?
1160
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I was about to find out.
1161
00:52:38,731 --> 00:52:41,981
(humming of machinery)
1162
00:52:49,061 --> 00:52:51,731
(leaves crunching)
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00:52:51,731 --> 00:52:54,330
- [Josh] They claim they're just using forest residues,
1164
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but actually a great deal of what the McNeil facility,
1165
00:52:57,489 --> 00:53:00,489
and lots of biomass facilities burn, is whole trees.
1166
00:53:00,489 --> 00:53:02,609
As you can see by this pile that's stacked right
1167
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outside of the facility, these are trees.
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- [Jeff] It turns out that the biggest source
1169
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,822
of green energy in Vermont is something called biomass.
1170
00:53:13,070 --> 00:53:15,143
Burning trees to create electricity.
1171
00:53:16,769 --> 00:53:18,920
- This is definitely not the way.
1172
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,430
At the first step is actually looking at our lifestyles,
1173
00:53:21,429 --> 00:53:23,822
how we can reduce our energy consumption.
1174
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:30,349
This is all the ash that has varying levels of toxic metals,
1175
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:32,240
a great deal of radiation
1176
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:33,609
because these trees have been absorb...
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00:53:33,610 --> 00:53:34,633
Oops, there's the...
1178
00:53:35,764 --> 00:53:38,670
(machinery humming)
1179
00:53:38,670 --> 00:53:40,606
- You're in unforbidden territory there.
1180
00:53:40,606 --> 00:53:41,440
- [Jeff] Are we?
1181
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,170
- May I ask both of you to come up to our office, okay.
1182
00:53:44,170 --> 00:53:45,099
- [Josh] Is that something you're interested in doing?
1183
00:53:45,099 --> 00:53:47,880
- It's not an interest, you've got five seconds
1184
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:49,111
or I'm calling 911.
1185
00:53:49,110 --> 00:53:49,943
- [Jeff] Okay.
1186
00:53:49,943 --> 00:53:53,032
- [Security Guard] We've got two individuals here--
1187
00:53:53,032 --> 00:53:54,271
(loud crunching footsteps)
1188
00:53:54,271 --> 00:53:56,389
Police will be down here in about two minutes.
1189
00:53:56,389 --> 00:53:57,889
- [Josh] You asked us to leave and we're doing so.
1190
00:53:57,889 --> 00:53:59,079
- [Security Guard] I'm not asking you to leave.
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00:53:59,079 --> 00:54:01,210
I'm asking you to come up to the office.
1192
00:54:01,210 --> 00:54:02,670
- [Josh] Okay, thanks for the offer.
1193
00:54:02,670 --> 00:54:03,633
Maybe next time.
1194
00:54:04,530 --> 00:54:06,353
(electronic beeping)
1195
00:54:06,353 --> 00:54:07,349
(machinery humming)
1196
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:08,652
You got everything here.
1197
00:54:09,619 --> 00:54:12,210
You have the number one polluter in the state
1198
00:54:12,210 --> 00:54:14,760
that people think, and it's magical fairy dust
1199
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,670
from the smokestack.
1200
00:54:16,670 --> 00:54:18,539
Reality is what you have is a facility
1201
00:54:18,539 --> 00:54:22,469
that burns 400,000 green tons a year of trees.
1202
00:54:22,469 --> 00:54:25,849
This facility burns thirty cords of wood per hour.
1203
00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:26,949
- [Jeff] That's a hell of lot of wood.
1204
00:54:26,949 --> 00:54:27,782
- [Josh] And on top of that,
1205
00:54:27,782 --> 00:54:30,650
it actually burns natural gas, as well.
1206
00:54:30,650 --> 00:54:31,860
- [Jeff] And to think you would have to have 10
1207
00:54:31,860 --> 00:54:35,160
of these to replace one average coal-fired power plant.
1208
00:54:35,159 --> 00:54:36,559
It's just not gonna work.
1209
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:37,889
- It's just nuts.
1210
00:54:37,889 --> 00:54:39,619
It takes great deal of fossil fuels
1211
00:54:39,619 --> 00:54:42,230
to cut down all these trees,
1212
00:54:42,230 --> 00:54:44,230
to truck 'em in, to use the big machinery
1213
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:46,030
to dump the wood chips everywhere.
1214
00:54:46,030 --> 00:54:48,533
So, the idea that somehow this is not anything to do
1215
00:54:48,532 --> 00:54:51,289
with fossil fuels just doesn't even make any sense.
1216
00:54:51,289 --> 00:54:53,949
It couldn't happen without fossil fuels, in fact.
1217
00:54:53,949 --> 00:54:55,559
- [Jeff] How did the environmental groups
1218
00:54:55,559 --> 00:54:56,599
get pulled into this?
1219
00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,210
- Obviously, the main factor is delusion.
1220
00:54:59,210 --> 00:55:01,880
A lot of these environmental groups have been saying
1221
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,940
that all we have to do is, for instance,
1222
00:55:03,940 --> 00:55:06,220
switch our fossil fuel economy over
1223
00:55:06,219 --> 00:55:08,209
to a few solar panels and windmills,
1224
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:11,740
and we can continue living life as normal.
1225
00:55:11,739 --> 00:55:13,889
Some of the environmental groups have been,
1226
00:55:13,889 --> 00:55:17,909
for years, touting facilities like this saying that,
1227
00:55:17,909 --> 00:55:21,109
number one, it's carbon neutral.
1228
00:55:21,110 --> 00:55:24,720
That this will actually help us fend off climate change
1229
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,989
because there are no CO2 emissions.
1230
00:55:27,989 --> 00:55:30,169
It actually emits over 400 thousand tons
1231
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:32,740
per year of carbon dioxide.
1232
00:55:32,739 --> 00:55:35,409
Oh, but once we but them, they'll grow back.
1233
00:55:35,409 --> 00:55:38,969
They'll grow back over a period of decades to centuries.
1234
00:55:38,969 --> 00:55:40,949
We cut every tree in the United States,
1235
00:55:40,949 --> 00:55:43,829
it would be able to power the country for a year.
1236
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:46,692
Then what happens when those trees are gone?
1237
00:55:49,309 --> 00:55:51,893
(wind blowing)
1238
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,930
- [Jeff] I discovered biomass plants
1239
00:55:54,929 --> 00:55:57,342
were not even always biomass plants.
1240
00:55:58,329 --> 00:56:00,579
- It's actually a solid waste incinerator
1241
00:56:00,579 --> 00:56:02,670
that's posing as a biomass plant.
1242
00:56:02,670 --> 00:56:06,960
The impact in this community is severe.
1243
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:11,300
The plant is right next Head Start school
1244
00:56:11,300 --> 00:56:13,030
for preschool kids.
1245
00:56:13,030 --> 00:56:14,810
There is Green Hill Manor and
1246
00:56:14,809 --> 00:56:18,799
that's an assisted living senior residence.
1247
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,280
And there's also a Catholic elementary school
1248
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,043
right next door.
1249
00:56:24,949 --> 00:56:26,109
- [Jeff] How do you know they're polluting?
1250
00:56:26,110 --> 00:56:26,943
Can you see it ever?
1251
00:56:26,943 --> 00:56:27,810
- We can see it.
1252
00:56:27,809 --> 00:56:30,239
The snow at the elementary school
1253
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:35,099
and at the preschool is covered with black,
1254
00:56:35,099 --> 00:56:36,849
some kind of black soot.
1255
00:56:36,849 --> 00:56:38,400
We just had it analyzed
1256
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,400
and it came back as mostly tire chips.
1257
00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:47,210
They have to add tire-derived fuel
1258
00:56:47,210 --> 00:56:49,409
to raise the temperature of the fire,
1259
00:56:49,409 --> 00:56:52,920
because anybody whose tried to burn green wood or wet wood,
1260
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,052
knows that it doesn't burn very well.
1261
00:56:56,190 --> 00:56:57,530
- [Jeff] But this biomass plant had
1262
00:56:57,530 --> 00:56:58,853
yet another surprise.
1263
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,870
- They admit that they burn 20.1 tons per hour
1264
00:57:03,869 --> 00:57:06,409
of creosote treated railroad ties.
1265
00:57:06,409 --> 00:57:11,409
Besides that, they are allowed to burn 500 pounds per hour
1266
00:57:11,539 --> 00:57:15,309
of PCP treated railroad ties.
1267
00:57:15,309 --> 00:57:17,172
These are shipped in from Canada.
1268
00:57:18,329 --> 00:57:22,360
It's not green, it's not renewable, it's not carbon-neutral,
1269
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,610
it's not anything that they claim it to be.
1270
00:57:24,610 --> 00:57:28,360
Yet, they got $11.5 million grant
1271
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,093
because it was classified as renewable.
1272
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,599
The plant owner told us
1273
00:57:33,599 --> 00:57:38,339
that they were having trouble getting enough wood chips.
1274
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:41,950
And he even asked us if we had any scrap wood
1275
00:57:41,949 --> 00:57:44,899
where we lived, would we call the plant
1276
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:47,789
and let them know so they could come up and pick it up.
1277
00:57:47,789 --> 00:57:48,623
- [Jeff] We're not talking
1278
00:57:48,623 --> 00:57:50,840
about some old industrial site,
1279
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,300
we're next to one of the most beautiful places in the world.
1280
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:55,160
- We re next to Lake Superior, this is Keweenaw B...
1281
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,282
This is actually L'Anse Bay, it's part of Keweenaw Bay.
1282
00:57:59,565 --> 00:58:04,565
It's Lake Superior, our lake. (voice breaking)
1283
00:58:05,420 --> 00:58:08,673
So, it's a very sacred place to many people.
1284
00:58:12,068 --> 00:58:13,876
(clopping horse feet)
1285
00:58:13,876 --> 00:58:15,324
- Are you with the news?
1286
00:58:15,324 --> 00:58:16,157
- [Jeff] No, there's supposed
1287
00:58:16,157 --> 00:58:17,069
to be a climate change rally.
1288
00:58:17,070 --> 00:58:18,705
- Oh.
1289
00:58:18,704 --> 00:58:21,621
- (group chanting)
1290
00:58:22,539 --> 00:58:25,019
- [Jeff] Michigan State University students,
1291
00:58:25,019 --> 00:58:28,349
inspired by 350.org, were holding a rally
1292
00:58:28,349 --> 00:58:31,326
for the clean energy future they'd been promised.
1293
00:58:31,327 --> 00:58:35,327
- (crowd shouting and cheering)
1294
00:58:36,519 --> 00:58:37,969
- Imagine when I found out
1295
00:58:37,969 --> 00:58:41,679
that it is the largest on-campus coal plant in the nation.
1296
00:58:41,679 --> 00:58:44,250
The goal is to get the whole world moving
1297
00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:45,623
beyond fossil fuels.
1298
00:58:45,623 --> 00:58:47,610
(crowd cheering and clapping)
1299
00:58:47,610 --> 00:58:51,933
- [Student] Who wants to do a 350 sign on the steps?"
1300
00:58:51,934 --> 00:58:53,880
- [Jeff] But it turned out Michigan State had a form
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of green energy in mind the students did not support.
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- The university contracted
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with a energy contracting company.
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They put together a modeling tool.
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First two or three months
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that the steering committee was using this modeling tool,
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it didn't even contain data for wind or solar.
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So there was (voice fading out)
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- [Jeff] Adam told me they were planning on
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00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:16,510
substituting coal burning with biomass burning.
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- But the permit that is currently being considered
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00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,893
by the state is a permit for 24,000 tons of biomass,
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00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:25,760
I think per year.
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And the plan is to do that in all four boilers.
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Unfortunately, the steering committee considers
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biomass renewable at the moment.
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Which we're not happy with.
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00:59:35,121 --> 00:59:36,910
(students laughing)
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- [Jeff] Michigan State wasn't the only university
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00:59:38,969 --> 00:59:39,862
to go green.
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- I'm happy to announce that Carolina will be going
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00:59:43,739 --> 00:59:46,849
beyond coal in the next decade.
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00:59:46,849 --> 00:59:50,309
Now, as we begin to wean ourselves on coal, we are about
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to try another alternative energy source, biomass.
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00:59:54,929 --> 00:59:55,762
- [Jeff] And who was here
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00:59:55,762 --> 00:59:57,460
to help the University of North Carolina switch
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00:59:57,460 --> 00:59:59,592
from burning coal to burning trees?
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- So, it is a great pleasure to be here today
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to celebrate the remarkable step
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that the university is taking to say,
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"We're gonna do our part."
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(solemn music)
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- [Jeff] A remarkable step, indeed.
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We're to do our part by getting out
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01:00:15,690 --> 01:00:17,800
of bed with coal companies
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01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,883
and into bed with logging companies?
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01:00:22,010 --> 01:00:24,130
Where did the idea of colleges going green
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01:00:24,130 --> 01:00:26,163
by burning trees come from, anyway?
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01:00:27,329 --> 01:00:31,112
A little college called Middlebury in the heart of Vermont.
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- Welcome to the celebration of the opening
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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,720
of Middlebury's new biomass gasification system.
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01:00:38,719 --> 01:00:40,879
It's now my great pleasure to introduce
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01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,114
this afternoon's speaker, Bill McKibben.
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01:00:43,114 --> 01:00:44,809
(audience clapping)
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01:00:44,809 --> 01:00:47,639
- What powers a learning community?
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01:00:47,639 --> 01:00:50,469
And as of this afternoon, the easy answer
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01:00:50,469 --> 01:00:53,159
to that is wood chips.
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It's incredibly beautiful to stand over there
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01:00:56,190 --> 01:00:59,210
and see that big bunker full of wood chips.
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01:00:59,210 --> 01:01:02,130
You can put any kind of wood in, oak, willow,
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01:01:02,130 --> 01:01:03,090
whatever you want.
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01:01:03,090 --> 01:01:06,019
Pretty much anything that burns, we can toss in there
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01:01:06,019 --> 01:01:08,259
if we can chip it down to the right size.
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01:01:08,260 --> 01:01:10,860
And there are very few similar cases anyplace
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in this country of that kind of change over that scale.
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01:01:14,449 --> 01:01:15,996
But it shows it could happen anywhere
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01:01:15,996 --> 01:01:17,710
and it should happen anywhere.
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01:01:17,710 --> 01:01:21,119
In fact, it must happen everywhere.
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- [Jeff] It must happen everywhere.
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01:01:24,835 --> 01:01:26,209
(dramatic piano music)
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And now it's time for a nature break.
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Enjoying our sustainably managed Michigan forests.
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(classical piano music)
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- If you walk through here and you look,
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01:01:34,056 --> 01:01:36,489
there's virtually nothing growing.
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01:01:36,489 --> 01:01:38,252
A little bit of grass occasionally.
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01:01:39,101 --> 01:01:40,629
(increasing classical music)
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01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:42,650
- [Jeff] And it seemed that biomass plants, indeed,
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01:01:42,650 --> 01:01:43,923
were suddenly everywhere,
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01:01:44,889 --> 01:01:47,074
like this one in Cadillac, Michigan.
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01:01:47,074 --> 01:01:49,817
(truck engine rumbling)
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01:01:49,817 --> 01:01:51,300
In Detroit, an incinerator
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01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,619
that burned garbage was considered green.
1374
01:01:53,619 --> 01:01:55,079
(classical piano music)
1375
01:01:55,079 --> 01:01:58,299
- The Detroit incinerator is known to emit horrible smells
1376
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,900
and pollutants that neighbors say make them feel sick
1377
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:02,204
and put their health at risk.
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01:02:02,204 --> 01:02:05,370
- It's a stink, it's a horrendous stink.
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01:02:05,369 --> 01:02:06,809
- [Jeff] A proposed biofuel plant
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01:02:06,809 --> 01:02:09,820
for the Upper Peninsula of Michigan would consume trees
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01:02:09,820 --> 01:02:12,570
from tens of thousands of square miles.
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01:02:12,570 --> 01:02:15,539
- In order to create 40 million gallons of ethanol,
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01:02:15,539 --> 01:02:17,570
they are going to have to use up
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01:02:17,570 --> 01:02:19,640
over a million tons of green wood.
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01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:21,269
We pointed out that they were gonna be using
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01:02:21,269 --> 01:02:24,409
more natural gas than they were gonna be creating ethanol
1387
01:02:24,409 --> 01:02:25,920
to displace the natural gas.
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01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,119
If you continue to do this,
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you're gonna be fertilizing the forest.
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01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:31,189
- [Jeff] Fertilizing forests with?
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01:02:31,188 --> 01:02:32,089
Fossil fuels? - Fossil fuel
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01:02:32,090 --> 01:02:33,559
based fertilizers.
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01:02:33,559 --> 01:02:34,393
- [Jeff] Made from natural gas?
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01:02:34,393 --> 01:02:35,226
- Yeah.
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01:02:35,226 --> 01:02:36,059
(frenzied piano music)
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01:02:36,059 --> 01:02:37,769
[Jeff] Then came a ballot proposal backed
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01:02:37,769 --> 01:02:41,800
by Bill McKibben and nearly every major environmental group,
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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:45,530
requiring Michigan to get 25% of its electricity
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01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:48,710
from renewable sources by the year 2025.
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01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:51,470
- [News Anchor] This year, Michigan voters have a choice:
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01:02:51,469 --> 01:02:54,559
keep burning dirty coal and oil or move Michigan
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01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:57,710
to clean, renewable energy like wind and solar.
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01:02:57,710 --> 01:02:59,909
Vote yes on Proposal three.
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01:02:59,909 --> 01:03:01,769
- [Jeff] Surprisingly, Proposal three,
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01:03:01,769 --> 01:03:06,320
also known as 25 by 25, was the brain child
1406
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:11,280
of an organization that was 100% biofuels and biomass.
1407
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,810
- Allowing America's farms, ranches and forest lands
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01:03:13,809 --> 01:03:16,449
to be active participants in contributing
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01:03:16,449 --> 01:03:18,480
to America's energy future.
1410
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,820
- [Jeff] These are the biomass
1411
01:03:19,820 --> 01:03:22,497
and biofuel plants across the U.S.
1412
01:03:22,496 --> 01:03:24,663
(popping)
1413
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,293
How did this happen?
1414
01:03:31,110 --> 01:03:32,970
And it wasn't just the U.S.A.
1415
01:03:32,969 --> 01:03:35,469
It was all around the world.
1416
01:03:35,469 --> 01:03:39,709
Wood chips, which is just a euphemism for trees,
1417
01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:42,519
are being exported to Europe from America,
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01:03:42,519 --> 01:03:46,539
British Columbia, Brazil and Indonesia.
1419
01:03:46,539 --> 01:03:48,697
Wherever they can get them from.
1420
01:03:48,697 --> 01:03:49,849
(classical piano music)
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01:03:49,849 --> 01:03:52,789
Biomass, especially when you add in biofuels,
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01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:56,360
is by far the largest portion of green energy
1423
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,980
around the world, even in Germany,
1424
01:03:58,980 --> 01:04:01,255
source of the solar miracle.
1425
01:04:01,255 --> 01:04:03,890
(classical piano music)
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01:04:03,889 --> 01:04:06,039
But maybe I was missing something.
1427
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:07,681
Maybe I had it all wrong.
1428
01:04:07,681 --> 01:04:09,269
(woman's voice on loudspeaker)
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01:04:09,269 --> 01:04:12,610
I decided to ask people protesting fossil fuels
1430
01:04:12,610 --> 01:04:16,890
how they felt about biomass and biofuels as green energy.
1431
01:04:16,889 --> 01:04:18,690
Would you say we don't need to do biofuels
1432
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:20,512
and food and forests for energy?
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01:04:20,512 --> 01:04:21,940
- No, no, definitely not.
1434
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:23,940
Of course not, of course not.
1435
01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:25,730
- Burning biomass, any kind of combustion,
1436
01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:28,099
is something we just need to move away from.
1437
01:04:28,099 --> 01:04:29,440
- The more trees we have, the better.
1438
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,740
- A lot of that didn't grow overnight.
1439
01:04:30,739 --> 01:04:32,899
If we cut it down, we don't know the impact of that.
1440
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:33,918
- [Jeff] You're here as an oak tree?
1441
01:04:33,918 --> 01:04:34,751
- Yes.
1442
01:04:34,751 --> 01:04:35,584
- If I had a chainsaw,
1443
01:04:35,583 --> 01:04:36,529
that wouldn't be saving the planet, would it?
1444
01:04:36,530 --> 01:04:37,450
- No, it's painful.
1445
01:04:37,449 --> 01:04:38,282
It's a painful way to go.
1446
01:04:38,282 --> 01:04:39,991
I can tell you that right now.
1447
01:04:39,992 --> 01:04:41,262
- [Jeff] It would take you a while to regrow.
1448
01:04:41,262 --> 01:04:42,095
(laughing)
1449
01:04:42,094 --> 01:04:43,060
- Yeah, oh yeah.
1450
01:04:43,061 --> 01:04:45,850
But it wouldn't be me, it'd be an off-spring.
1451
01:04:45,849 --> 01:04:48,719
- With so many people doing it on such a massive scale,
1452
01:04:48,719 --> 01:04:52,809
all of a sudden at once, that's pretty serious.
1453
01:04:52,809 --> 01:04:54,860
- No, I think we should not be burning trees.
1454
01:04:54,860 --> 01:04:56,340
- [Group] No, no.
1455
01:04:56,340 --> 01:04:57,990
- Why would we cut down trees?
1456
01:04:57,989 --> 01:05:00,409
- We shouldn't replace one terrible way of getting energy
1457
01:05:00,409 --> 01:05:02,000
with another terrible way of getting energy.
1458
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,603
Because it's one thing.
1459
01:05:03,603 --> 01:05:04,759
(girl's voice fading)
1460
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,210
- [Jeff] Clearly, most citizens are opposed
1461
01:05:07,210 --> 01:05:08,800
to biomass and biofuels.
1462
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,724
(calming guitar music)
1463
01:05:10,724 --> 01:05:12,574
But what about environmental leaders?
1464
01:05:13,449 --> 01:05:18,159
At times, they have promoted biomass but other times,
1465
01:05:18,159 --> 01:05:20,282
they sound like they are against biomass.
1466
01:05:21,369 --> 01:05:23,586
Like this Sierra Club policy,
1467
01:05:23,586 --> 01:05:25,887
"We are deeply concerned about the implications
1468
01:05:25,887 --> 01:05:29,320
"of wood-to-energy for native forests."
1469
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,836
Or this statement signed on by 75 environmental groups,
1470
01:05:32,836 --> 01:05:35,427
"Burning forests for energy will destroy one
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01:05:35,427 --> 01:05:38,750
"of our best defenses against climate change."
1472
01:05:38,750 --> 01:05:41,940
But then again, their language leaves loopholes
1473
01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:43,880
that enable biomass.
1474
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,876
The NRDC says you must use the "right types of biomass."
1475
01:05:48,780 --> 01:05:50,010
The Dogwood Alliance says
1476
01:05:50,010 --> 01:05:52,513
maybe small biomass plants are okay.
1477
01:05:54,019 --> 01:05:55,936
And the Sierra Club flat out states,
1478
01:05:55,936 --> 01:05:58,353
"Biomass can be sustainable."
1479
01:05:58,353 --> 01:06:00,149
(pensive guitar music)
1480
01:06:00,150 --> 01:06:01,722
Which side are they really on?
1481
01:06:03,630 --> 01:06:05,410
I thought for sure with the camera rolling,
1482
01:06:05,409 --> 01:06:07,807
environmental leaders would speak for the trees.
1483
01:06:07,807 --> 01:06:10,489
- [Group] No frackin' way.
1484
01:06:10,489 --> 01:06:14,440
- Where's the science, where's the science?
1485
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:18,190
- We're here to tell a story about what the forests
1486
01:06:18,190 --> 01:06:22,260
of this state, of our commonwealth, mean to us.
1487
01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:24,610
- [Jeff] Does your organization have any stance on that?
1488
01:06:24,610 --> 01:06:27,079
- I'm not sure I would say we support it as much
1489
01:06:27,079 --> 01:06:29,750
as we can wrap our heads around it.
1490
01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:32,380
We've almost made a peace with the timber industry.
1491
01:06:32,380 --> 01:06:34,230
- [Jeff] I'm just curious, what's your group stance
1492
01:06:34,230 --> 01:06:37,152
on using forests for biomass?
1493
01:06:37,152 --> 01:06:42,152
- Biomass is renewable, biomass is sustainable.
1494
01:06:42,679 --> 01:06:46,062
- And I'm with Clean Water Action,
1495
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:49,239
we don't really have a stand on it.
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01:06:49,239 --> 01:06:51,809
If the director of the Sierra Club was here,
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01:06:51,809 --> 01:06:55,737
she'd be able to talk your ear off about it.
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01:06:55,737 --> 01:06:59,079
- I'm the director for the Sierra Club in Pennsylvania.
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01:06:59,079 --> 01:07:00,179
- [Jeff] Does the Sierra Club support
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01:07:00,179 --> 01:07:01,862
or not support biomass?
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01:07:05,030 --> 01:07:06,550
- I'm not totally prepared to talk
1502
01:07:06,550 --> 01:07:08,530
about our policy on biomass today.
1503
01:07:08,530 --> 01:07:10,960
Our position is somewhat nuanced,
1504
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:14,083
so I just want to be careful not to...
1505
01:07:14,083 --> 01:07:16,706
(crowd talking)
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01:07:16,706 --> 01:07:17,539
- [Jeff] So, you're with 350?
1507
01:07:17,539 --> 01:07:18,373
- I am.
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01:07:18,373 --> 01:07:20,110
- Do 350 have a position on biomass
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01:07:20,110 --> 01:07:21,175
'cause I'm kind of actually--
1510
01:07:21,175 --> 01:07:23,420
- I can't really speak for 350.
1511
01:07:23,420 --> 01:07:25,159
- Do you personally have an opinion about
1512
01:07:25,159 --> 01:07:28,329
whether we should be burning green trees for green energy?
1513
01:07:28,329 --> 01:07:30,230
- No, I don't have an opinion on that.
1514
01:07:31,329 --> 01:07:33,500
I like a fire. (laughing)
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01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:34,829
- [Jeff] One of my biggest concern
1516
01:07:34,829 --> 01:07:36,590
as an environmentalist is that we're trying to burn trees.
1517
01:07:36,590 --> 01:07:38,570
There are tree burning power plants.
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01:07:38,570 --> 01:07:40,730
Are you aware of the problems with biomass or biofuels?
1519
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:43,842
- Yeah, yeah, I'm not as aware of that
1520
01:07:43,842 --> 01:07:45,679
as I could be or should be.
1521
01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:47,669
- Jeff Gibbs, working on a documentary.
1522
01:07:47,670 --> 01:07:49,210
In Michigan where I live, where I'm from,
1523
01:07:49,210 --> 01:07:51,920
there's large plants that burn trees for energy
1524
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,387
and pretty much whole trees chopped up.
1525
01:07:53,387 --> 01:07:54,610
Do you have a thought about whether
1526
01:07:54,610 --> 01:07:57,370
that should be a part of green energy or not?
1527
01:07:57,369 --> 01:07:59,199
- The great thing about green energy is
1528
01:07:59,199 --> 01:08:00,849
you don't have to pick a favorite.
1529
01:08:00,849 --> 01:08:01,682
- Jeff Gibbs.
1530
01:08:01,682 --> 01:08:02,550
- Oh, hello.
1531
01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:04,930
- My biggest concern is that in Germany, for instance,
1532
01:08:04,929 --> 01:08:06,779
they're moving toward solar and wind
1533
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:09,980
but 60% of their actual energy is coming from biomass.
1534
01:08:09,980 --> 01:08:12,510
60% of what's considered renewable energy.
1535
01:08:12,510 --> 01:08:13,780
Burning trees for energy?
1536
01:08:13,780 --> 01:08:15,620
- I don't know the details out of Germany.
1537
01:08:15,619 --> 01:08:17,409
What Germany's really doing is a lot
1538
01:08:17,409 --> 01:08:20,399
of sun related and that's really powerful to see.
1539
01:08:20,399 --> 01:08:21,279
- [Jeff] I'd like to see us come out
1540
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:22,112
against any burning of trees.
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01:08:22,113 --> 01:08:23,077
- All right, well go and do it.
1542
01:08:23,077 --> 01:08:23,909
- For clean energy
1543
01:08:23,909 --> 01:08:25,314
Would you?
1544
01:08:25,314 --> 01:08:27,929
- Although I confess I stoke my wood stove
1545
01:08:27,930 --> 01:08:29,180
almost every night of the winter,
1546
01:08:29,180 --> 01:08:30,465
so I'm not really the right person to ask.
1547
01:08:30,465 --> 01:08:32,451
- But designating green energy for power plants.
1548
01:08:32,451 --> 01:08:35,189
- Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
1549
01:08:35,189 --> 01:08:36,897
It's not what this day's about.
1550
01:08:36,898 --> 01:08:38,574
- [Jeff] But if we're burning trees
1551
01:08:38,573 --> 01:08:40,573
instead of fossil fuels.
1552
01:08:41,838 --> 01:08:42,909
- (crowd drowns out) from Taiwan.
1553
01:08:42,909 --> 01:08:44,500
- Oh, good.
1554
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:47,445
- We're wondering what role do you want
1555
01:08:47,445 --> 01:08:48,948
to play in this (voice fading out)?
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01:08:48,948 --> 01:08:50,902
- [Jeff] I think the biomass question's a non-starter.
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(somber music)
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I found only one environmental leader willing
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to reject biomass and biofuels.
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- So we are talking
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of the old oil economy trying
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to maintain itself now
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through another raw material, the green planet.
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The only reason corn and soy has been planted for biofuel
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in this country is the subsidies make it profitable.
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I think the big crisis of our time is
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our minds have been manipulated to give power to illusions.
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We shifted to measuring growth,
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not in terms of how life is enriched
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but in terms of how life is destroyed.
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(peaceful guitar)
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- [Jeff] Her honesty was refreshing.
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But as for the rest of them, I wondered,
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what are they hiding?
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And why are they hiding it?
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Is it their ignorance?
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Or is it something else?
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(music increasing in tempo)
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What if they, themselves, had become misguided?
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(intensifying dramatic music)
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What if they've made some kind of deal
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they shouldn't have made?
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And are leading us all off the cliff?
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(light upbeat music)
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It was long past time for me to come to grips
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with the other elephant in the living room.
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The profit motive.
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The only reason we've been force fed the story,
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climate change plus renewables equals we're saved,
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is because billionaires, bankers
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and corporations profit from it.
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And the reason we're not talking about over-population,
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consumption and the suicide of economic growth is
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that would be bad for business.
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Especially the cancerous form of capitalism
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that rules the world.
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Now hiding under a cover of green.
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- Today Bloomberg Philanthropies is making,
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I'm happy to announce, a new investment
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of $30 million in the Beyond Coal campaign.
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(crowd cheering and clapping)
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We have more.
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I'm glad to say that more
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than a dozen additional funders have committed
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to match that $30 million.
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(clapping and cheering)
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- [Jeff] And who were these new partners?
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One of them was Jeremy Grantham.
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Billionaire, world's leading timber investment advisor.
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(man speaking in background)
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They were not investing in trees
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to turn them into nature preserves.
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Which might answer another riddle,
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why is this name redacted on the Sierra Club's tax return?
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Would they be embarrassed to take three million dollars
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from a man who made his living selling the forest
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to the world?
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Bloomberg, bringing a timber investment billionaire
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to the party, was no coincidence.
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Bloomberg sponsored a U.N. climate session
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to discuss wrapping up biomass
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and biofuels around the world.
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Billionaires were in love with the idea of turning
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what was left of nature into green profits.
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Remember when Al Gore had gotten Richard Branson
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to invest billions into saving the planet?
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- [News Anchor] Richard Branson, founder of Virgin Atlantic,
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powered a Boeing 747 from London to Amsterdam
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on a coconut oil mixture to highlight the potential
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of this amazing oil as a clean energy biofuel.
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- [Jeff] Branson had actually invested in biofuels.
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He was attempting to replace the jet fuel
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damaging the planet with biofuels
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that required the consumption of the living planet.
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And it was game-on for the airline industry.
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- [News Anchor] Dozens of researchers
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from all over the northwest gathered
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in Missoula the past two days to explore the idea
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of converting the region's mass of reserves
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of wood into jet fuel.
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Especially with the demand for aircraft fuel expected
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to grow by a billion gallons in the northwest alone.
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- [News Anchor] United Airlines will buy a $30 million stake
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in biofuel company, Fulcrum BioEnergy.
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The airline used 3.9 billion gallons of fuel last year.
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- [Jeff] What technology was Silicon Valley billionaire
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Vinod Khosla hoping to profit from?
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- Nature takes a million years to produce our crude oil.
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KiOR can produce it in seconds.
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- [Lesley] The company took over this old paper mill
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where logs are picked up by a giant claw,
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dropped into a shredder and pulverized into wood chips.
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Clean gasoline?
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- Clean, green gasoline.
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- There must be a downside.
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- There is no downside.
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- [Jeff] The bank that crashed the economy,
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ruined millions of lives and has their tentacles
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on the levers of power,
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what would their favorite form of green energy be?
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- One of the very interesting markets
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that we deal with is Brazil.
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It's unlike any other market in that today,
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alternative energy isn't really alternative energy.
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It's so much a part of the fabric of the society.
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The country began to utilize its vast resources
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of sugar cane to produce ethanol.
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- [Jeff] There was a man from Goldman Sachs
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who was particularly in love
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with turning forests into profits.
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- Has everybody got enough coffee?
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Might want to get some more.
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- [Jeff] Meet David Blood, former CEO
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of Asset Management for Goldman Sachs.
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How much money did Mr. Blood believe should
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be invested in green energy?
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- A natural alignment for something in the order
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of $40-50 trillion worth of capital.
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- [Jeff] $40-50 trillion.
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And who was going to help the man from Goldman Sachs?
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Help him raise that astronomical amount of money?
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- A gentleman some of you may recognize
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and know, Bill McKibben.
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- It's entirely dependent on what kind
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of political will we can muster.
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And if we do not get this done very fast,
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then we're not gonna get it done.
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- [Jeff] And so Bill McKibben went forth
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to generate the political will for trillions
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of dollars in green investments.
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- Our next guest has been called
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our nation's leading environmentalist.
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- And you are, in some sense,
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the Grand Poobah of the environmental movement.
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- My guest tonight is on a global crusade.
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- [Jeff] On a global crusade for what?
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- Commit to divesting from fossil fuels.
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We can't justify investing our money into companies
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that are basically running genesis backward.
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- [Jeff] So when you divest from fossil fuels,
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01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,193
and invest in green funds, what are you investing in?
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01:15:34,069 --> 01:15:36,469
I took a deep dive into Securities
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01:15:36,470 --> 01:15:39,423
and Exchange Commission filings to find out.
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01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:43,210
For instance, in the Green Century Funds,
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01:15:43,210 --> 01:15:47,420
recommended by 350.org and Bill McKibben,
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01:15:47,420 --> 01:15:50,510
I found less than one percent solar and wind
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and 99% things like mining,
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01:15:54,029 --> 01:15:57,697
(increasing dramatic music)
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oil and gas infrastructure companies,
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(dramatic music)
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including a tar sands exploiter,
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McDonald's one of the companies driving meat consumption
1713
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across the planet.
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Archer Daniels Midland,
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01:16:14,109 --> 01:16:17,022
one of the world's largest producers of biofuel,
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01:16:18,289 --> 01:16:20,840
Coca Cola, the largest creator
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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,422
of plastic pollution on earth,
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logging and paper companies including one
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that brags about biomass burning and banks.
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01:16:32,114 --> 01:16:34,170
(dramatic music)
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Lots of banks.
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01:16:35,314 --> 01:16:37,930
(dramatic music)
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Including BlackRock, the largest financer
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of deforestation on earth.
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- The business that they're engaged in
1726
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is actually destroying our life support system.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Jeff] The Sierra Club, also partners
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with a green fund called Aspiration.
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Aspiration also includes dozens of companies profiting
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from the destruction of the planet.
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Including Chevron, ExxonMobil, Chesapeake Energy.
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- [Announcer] In order to maximize the production potential
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of the well,
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the shale formation will be hydraulically fractured.
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- [Jeff] The Russian gas giant, Gazprom.
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- [Announcer] Gazprom owns the world's largest
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explored gas reserves, 36 trillion cubic meters.
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- [Jeff] And in perhaps the most bizarre twist of all,
1740
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the Sierra Club's green fund's biggest holding is in Viva,
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the world's largest consumer of forests,
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to be incinerated in green energy biomass plants.
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(somber piano music)
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Of course, one investment option is a green fund,
1745
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run by Bill McKibben's buddy, David Blood.
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And who was the chairman of this fund?
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Someone familiar.
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- Use capitalism, it gives incentives
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for people to do their best.
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- [Jeff] Al Gore and David Blood partnered
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to form a company called Blood and Gore.
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01:18:11,310 --> 01:18:15,373
No, scratch that, Generation Investment Management.
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And within this fund, Blood and Gore designated
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a special investment category targeting $650 million
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of biomass and biofuels.
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Funny thing was, they partnered
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before Al Gore's film came out.
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(dramatic music)
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Was that movie just about climate change or something else?
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- On one side, we have gold bars.
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Mm, mm, mm. (audience laughing)
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Don't they look good?
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I'd just like to have some of those gold bars.
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On the other side of the scales, the entire planet.
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(audience laughing)
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If we do the right thing,
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then we're gonna create a lot of wealth.
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- [Jeff] And when it came time for Al Gore
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to choose between the entire planet and getting him some
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of them gold bars, what choice did he make?
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Here's Al Gore earning his keep by pretending to care
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about the rain forest while lobbying Congress
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on behalf of the sugar cane ethanol industry.
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- Let me come in on the Brazilian effort here
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with the issue of the possibility of expanding into
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that Amazon River basin with further deforestation
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to produce more ethanol out of sugar cane is a worry.
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And apparently you're not as concerned about that.
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- No, no, I am, I simply forgot.
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(motor roaring)
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(children screaming & crying)
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What's been going on there, it is really very troubling.
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(speaking in foreign language)
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And with your permission, I'll show you a very quick example
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of it over a period of 25 years.
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(loud tapping)
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- [Announcer] The invasion of sugar cane on the cultures
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in the region clashes
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with the indigenous people's right to land.
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These are images of a last ditch attempt
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by the Guarani-Kaiowá to resist eviction.
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- Important to note that the exploitation
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of the sugar cane growing areas in Brazil does not have
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to inevitably have the knock on consequence
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of causing destruction in the Amazon.
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- Sugar cane fields are burning.
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They're set alight before the harvest
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to eliminate the leaves and tops of the plant,
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which makes cutting more efficient.
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(somber music)
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Environmentalists blame the seemingly
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endless sugar cane fields, the air and water pollution
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on an epic scale.
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And along with deforestation, the threat it poses
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to the environment is becoming clear.
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(dramatic music)
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Once the indigenous families were expelled,
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the land owners set their homes on fire.
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(dramatic music)
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- [Jeff] Is there anything too terrible
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to qualify as green energy?
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- Thank you very much, Secretary Mabus and U.S. Navy for,
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once again, inviting me to speak with you today.
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The Navy's work to help launch
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01:21:18,725 --> 01:21:22,111
this new fuel industry is invaluable.
1816
01:21:22,110 --> 01:21:24,664
(roaring plane engine)
1817
01:21:24,664 --> 01:21:26,659
- [Announcer] The U.S. Navy has a special message
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01:21:26,659 --> 01:21:27,492
this year.
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It is time to turn green.
1820
01:21:29,619 --> 01:21:32,170
Joining the vessels is what the U.S. Navy calls,
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01:21:32,170 --> 01:21:34,010
it's great green fleet of warships,
1822
01:21:34,010 --> 01:21:36,980
powered by fuel from renewable sources like algae,
1823
01:21:36,979 --> 01:21:39,184
grass and animal fat.
1824
01:21:39,185 --> 01:21:40,852
- [Jeff] Animal fat?
1825
01:21:42,268 --> 01:21:45,600
(thudding and pounding)
1826
01:21:48,472 --> 01:21:50,189
- The next time you fill up
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01:21:50,189 --> 01:21:51,829
at your neighborhood gas station,
1828
01:21:51,829 --> 01:21:54,899
you might find yourself pumping a little alligator
1829
01:21:54,899 --> 01:21:55,732
into your tank.
1830
01:21:55,733 --> 01:21:57,850
That's right, U.L. Lafayette researchers
1831
01:21:57,850 --> 01:21:59,579
have developed alligator fat
1832
01:21:59,579 --> 01:22:02,292
into a renewable source for biofuels.
1833
01:22:04,569 --> 01:22:08,639
- [Jeff] And once we run through the animals, what's next?
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01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,590
GE, who brings you nuclear energy and wind turbines,
1835
01:22:12,590 --> 01:22:13,783
is ready with a plan.
1836
01:22:15,239 --> 01:22:18,329
- I believe that liquid fuels, chemicals,
1837
01:22:18,329 --> 01:22:21,309
are eventually gonna have to be made
1838
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,600
from sustainable raw materials.
1839
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,550
We believe that seaweed is one
1840
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:28,342
of the most attractive opportunities.
1841
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,270
(majestic music)
1842
01:22:39,270 --> 01:22:40,370
- [Jeff] Better hurry.
1843
01:22:43,109 --> 01:22:47,252
One year after it was filmed, the seaweed forest was dead.
1844
01:22:49,576 --> 01:22:52,158
(somber music)
1845
01:22:55,510 --> 01:22:58,449
You might ask yourself, how could men destroy
1846
01:22:58,449 --> 01:23:01,233
what remains of nature to enrich themselves?
1847
01:23:02,529 --> 01:23:06,413
Well, that's why they're billionaires and you're not.
1848
01:23:06,413 --> 01:23:08,663
(laughing)
1849
01:23:10,060 --> 01:23:11,950
The takeover of the environmental movement
1850
01:23:11,949 --> 01:23:14,659
by capitalism is now complete.
1851
01:23:14,659 --> 01:23:16,819
Environmentalists are no longer resisting those
1852
01:23:16,819 --> 01:23:19,822
with a profit motive, but collaborating with them.
1853
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:25,070
The Nature Conservancy is now the logging conservancy.
1854
01:23:25,069 --> 01:23:29,759
- We will capture the most important pieces biologically
1855
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,810
and there will be another large block sold
1856
01:23:32,810 --> 01:23:34,940
to timber investment groups.
1857
01:23:34,939 --> 01:23:38,409
The Union of Concerned Scientists has become the union
1858
01:23:38,409 --> 01:23:41,409
of concerned salesmen, having taken millions,
1859
01:23:41,409 --> 01:23:42,760
not for science,
1860
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,523
but to create markets for electric cars.
1861
01:23:48,260 --> 01:23:50,280
The Sierra Club sells electric cars
1862
01:23:50,279 --> 01:23:52,462
and solar panels right from their website.
1863
01:23:53,529 --> 01:23:55,109
- The best thing about Sungevity is
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01:23:55,109 --> 01:23:56,759
that they make it easy for you.
1865
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,222
All that you have to do is to say yes.
1866
01:24:00,130 --> 01:24:02,859
- [Jeff] The New York Times partners with ExxonMobil
1867
01:24:02,859 --> 01:24:05,409
to bring you the good news about biofuels.
1868
01:24:05,409 --> 01:24:06,349
- [Announcer] Algae derived fuel
1869
01:24:06,350 --> 01:24:08,100
could help us meet growing demands.
1870
01:24:09,095 --> 01:24:11,100
- [Jeff] Treehugger.com, which claims
1871
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:14,329
to be the largest single source of environmental news,
1872
01:24:14,329 --> 01:24:17,809
was founded and funded by Georgia Pacific,
1873
01:24:17,810 --> 01:24:19,660
a logging company.
1874
01:24:19,659 --> 01:24:21,202
In fact, they are neighbors.
1875
01:24:23,149 --> 01:24:26,439
Georgia Pacific is owned by our friends, the Koch brothers,
1876
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,589
who are likely the largest recipient
1877
01:24:28,590 --> 01:24:32,020
of green energy biomass subsidies in the United States.
1878
01:24:32,020 --> 01:24:34,320
(somber music)
1879
01:24:34,319 --> 01:24:36,559
Yes, the merger of environmentalism
1880
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:39,500
and capitalism is now complete.
1881
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:41,300
But maybe it's always been complete.
1882
01:24:42,310 --> 01:24:45,200
- How is 350.org funded?
1883
01:24:45,199 --> 01:24:46,904
- Well, not very well.
1884
01:24:46,904 --> 01:24:49,420
- (laughing) Who are your funders?
1885
01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:51,100
- To the degree that we have any money at all,
1886
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:53,169
it's come from a few foundations in Europe and U.S.
1887
01:24:53,168 --> 01:24:55,300
- [Karyn] Which ones?
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01:24:55,301 --> 01:24:56,530
- Ah, let's see.
1889
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The, I'm trying to think who the biggest funders are.
1890
01:25:05,319 --> 01:25:10,319
There's a foundation in, based in Sweden called,
1891
01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:15,170
I think it's called the Rasmuson Foundation
1892
01:25:16,503 --> 01:25:18,649
that I think has been the biggest funder.
1893
01:25:18,649 --> 01:25:21,219
- So you don't get money from Pew or Rockefeller
1894
01:25:21,220 --> 01:25:22,780
or any of those big foundations?
1895
01:25:22,779 --> 01:25:23,612
- [Bill] No, we did.
1896
01:25:23,613 --> 01:25:26,520
Rockefeller Brothers Fund gave us some money right
1897
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:27,550
when we were starting out.
1898
01:25:27,550 --> 01:25:28,750
That's been useful, too.
1899
01:25:29,729 --> 01:25:31,983
- But they no longer fund you?
1900
01:25:31,984 --> 01:25:34,468
- I don't know, I don't have this sort of-
1901
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- [Karyn] (laughing) Really?
1902
01:25:36,670 --> 01:25:38,493
- Funders sitting in front of me.
1903
01:25:38,493 --> 01:25:40,493
- [Karyn] That's usually something that people know.
1904
01:25:40,493 --> 01:25:43,983
- Rockefeller's been one of our, is one of our,
1905
01:25:43,983 --> 01:25:46,630
is a great ally in this fight.
1906
01:25:46,630 --> 01:25:50,310
- [Interviewer] You just sold your TV network to Al Jazeera.
1907
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:51,143
- Right.
1908
01:25:51,143 --> 01:25:53,270
- [Interviewer] And that government is basically nothing
1909
01:25:53,270 --> 01:25:54,550
but an oil producer.
1910
01:25:54,550 --> 01:25:55,930
- Gas, mainly and oil.
1911
01:25:55,930 --> 01:25:58,860
- Your take on that, about a hundred million dollars pre-tax
1912
01:25:58,859 --> 01:26:02,960
from a country that bases it's wealth on fossil fuels.
1913
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,069
Isn't there a bit of hypocrisy in that?
1914
01:26:05,069 --> 01:26:08,170
- Well, I get the criticism, I just disagree with it.
1915
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I'm proud of the transactions.
1916
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,150
- You couldn't find, for your business,
1917
01:26:13,149 --> 01:26:15,000
a more sustainable choice?
1918
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:16,819
- What is not sustainable about it?
1919
01:26:16,819 --> 01:26:19,230
- Because it is backed by fossil fuel money.
1920
01:26:19,230 --> 01:26:21,572
- I get it, I get it, I get it.
1921
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- [Jeff] And so, if you got yourself
1922
01:26:23,189 --> 01:26:25,929
an environmental movement and environmental leaders,
1923
01:26:25,930 --> 01:26:28,574
why not buy the holy day itself?
1924
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- [Man] (crowd screaming) Happy Earth Day!
1925
01:26:30,020 --> 01:26:31,558
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
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01:26:31,559 --> 01:26:33,503
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1927
01:26:33,503 --> 01:26:35,671
♪ Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ♪
1928
01:26:35,671 --> 01:26:39,141
♪ You make me want to say ♪
1929
01:26:39,140 --> 01:26:42,539
♪ Ah, you make me want to say ♪
1930
01:26:42,539 --> 01:26:45,970
- Now we are facing the greatest sets of issues
1931
01:26:45,970 --> 01:26:48,170
that we've seen in my lifetime.
1932
01:26:48,170 --> 01:26:50,600
It's time now for a new generation to jump up
1933
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,560
on the stage and create a habitable country,
1934
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,660
a habitable planet, that we can all enjoy.
1935
01:26:56,659 --> 01:26:58,418
Are you that generation?
1936
01:26:58,418 --> 01:27:01,529
(crowd screaming and cheering)
1937
01:27:01,529 --> 01:27:03,539
I need to thank Building Energy
1938
01:27:03,539 --> 01:27:06,462
which provided so much solar power to this
1939
01:27:06,462 --> 01:27:09,747
that we powered the entire event with solar energy.
1940
01:27:09,747 --> 01:27:13,309
(crowd cheering and screaming)
1941
01:27:13,310 --> 01:27:15,100
- [Jeff] But when I went backstage to see
1942
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:16,350
what was really going on.
1943
01:27:17,260 --> 01:27:19,082
- It ain't running this whole thing on that, Jack.
1944
01:27:19,082 --> 01:27:19,957
I can tell you that.
1945
01:27:19,957 --> 01:27:23,810
For a toaster is 1200 watts.
1946
01:27:23,810 --> 01:27:27,320
So, that run right there could run a toaster.
1947
01:27:27,319 --> 01:27:29,519
- [Jeff] I found the installer.
1948
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:30,910
- Hi.
1949
01:27:30,909 --> 01:27:31,930
- [Jeff] Are they running the festival
1950
01:27:31,930 --> 01:27:33,340
on these solar panels?
1951
01:27:33,340 --> 01:27:37,573
- The concert is run by diesel generation system.
1952
01:27:38,819 --> 01:27:43,630
They didn't ask us to energize the concert.
1953
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- [Jeff] Oh, okay.
1954
01:27:45,090 --> 01:27:45,922
- And we'd also like
1955
01:27:45,922 --> 01:27:48,340
to thank our incredible corporate sponsors
1956
01:27:48,340 --> 01:27:50,829
have been behind the movement to end extreme poverty
1957
01:27:50,829 --> 01:27:53,479
and tackle climate change since the very beginning.
1958
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:54,835
I want to thank Toyota.
1959
01:27:54,836 --> 01:27:58,079
(loud roaring engine)
1960
01:27:58,079 --> 01:27:58,912
Citibank.
1961
01:27:58,912 --> 01:28:02,159
(clanging bell and cheering)
1962
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:03,859
We want to thank Caterpillar.
1963
01:28:03,859 --> 01:28:05,679
- We're standing at the destruction site
1964
01:28:05,680 --> 01:28:07,820
of the Dakota Access Pipeline.
1965
01:28:07,819 --> 01:28:09,359
It looks like there are
1966
01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:13,807
at least three bulldozers actually bulldozing the land.
1967
01:28:13,807 --> 01:28:16,970
(group yelling and cheering)
1968
01:28:16,970 --> 01:28:18,699
People have gotten through the fence,
1969
01:28:18,699 --> 01:28:20,496
the bulldozers are still going
1970
01:28:20,497 --> 01:28:21,850
(people screaming)
1971
01:28:21,850 --> 01:28:24,972
and they're marching over the dirt mounds.
1972
01:28:24,972 --> 01:28:26,180
(loud angry screaming)
1973
01:28:26,180 --> 01:28:27,743
- [Man In Orange Shirt] Get the fuck off!
1974
01:28:27,743 --> 01:28:28,859
Get the fuck out of here!
1975
01:28:28,859 --> 01:28:30,500
- Without these partners, it wouldn't be possible.
1976
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:32,322
Let's give them a round of applause, everyone.
1977
01:28:32,322 --> 01:28:36,154
(crowd cheering and clapping)
1978
01:28:37,931 --> 01:28:40,931
(slow solemn music)
1979
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:47,842
- [Jeff] Now I know this all might seem overwhelming.
1980
01:28:50,020 --> 01:28:50,900
It's a kind of thing
1981
01:28:50,899 --> 01:28:54,027
that we normally don't try and think about.
1982
01:28:54,027 --> 01:28:57,470
(slow solemn music)
1983
01:28:57,470 --> 01:28:58,920
But by not thinking about it,
1984
01:29:00,399 --> 01:29:02,571
it stands a good chance of doing us in.
1985
01:29:02,572 --> 01:29:05,239
(slow solemn music)
1986
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:07,909
I truly believe that the path to change
1987
01:29:09,210 --> 01:29:10,889
comes from awareness.
1988
01:29:10,889 --> 01:29:12,800
(slow solemn music)
1989
01:29:12,800 --> 01:29:17,125
That awareness alone can begin to create the transformation.
1990
01:29:17,125 --> 01:29:20,125
(slow solemn music)
1991
01:29:21,750 --> 01:29:23,222
There is a way out of this.
1992
01:29:24,890 --> 01:29:28,240
We humans must accept that infinite growth
1993
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:31,632
on a finite planet is suicide.
1994
01:29:33,250 --> 01:29:35,430
We must accept that our human presence
1995
01:29:36,289 --> 01:29:38,832
is already far beyond sustainability.
1996
01:29:40,510 --> 01:29:42,600
And all that that implies.
1997
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:44,980
(slow solemn music)
1998
01:29:44,979 --> 01:29:48,399
We must take control of our environmental movement
1999
01:29:48,399 --> 01:29:51,859
and our future from billionaires
2000
01:29:51,859 --> 01:29:54,532
and their permanent war on Planet Earth.
2001
01:29:54,533 --> 01:29:56,380
(slow solemn music)
2002
01:29:56,380 --> 01:29:58,444
They are not our friends.
2003
01:29:58,444 --> 01:30:01,110
(slow solemn music)
2004
01:30:01,109 --> 01:30:02,809
Less must be the new more
2005
01:30:04,350 --> 01:30:06,430
and instead of climate change,
2006
01:30:06,430 --> 01:30:08,230
we must at long last accept
2007
01:30:09,399 --> 01:30:11,339
that it's not the carbon dioxide molecule
2008
01:30:11,340 --> 01:30:12,440
destroying the planet,
2009
01:30:14,268 --> 01:30:15,667
(slow solemn music) it's us.
2010
01:30:17,368 --> 01:30:19,859
(slow solemn music)
2011
01:30:19,859 --> 01:30:24,122
It's not one thing, but everything we humans are doing.
2012
01:30:25,850 --> 01:30:29,329
A human-caused apocalypse.
2013
01:30:29,329 --> 01:30:33,875
If we get ourselves under control, all things are possible.
2014
01:30:33,875 --> 01:30:37,655
(slow solemn music)
2015
01:30:37,655 --> 01:30:38,582
And if we don't.
2016
01:30:39,949 --> 01:30:42,617
(ominous music)
2017
01:30:50,087 --> 01:30:53,004
(chainsaw buzzing)
2018
01:30:58,326 --> 01:31:01,076
(crashing trees)
2019
01:31:02,654 --> 01:31:05,737
(sad mournful music)
2020
01:31:07,112 --> 01:31:09,862
(trees crashing)
2021
01:31:12,819 --> 01:31:15,819
(slow solemn music)
2022
01:31:23,487 --> 01:31:26,319
(trees scrapping)
2023
01:31:27,884 --> 01:31:30,966
(orangutan chirping)
2024
01:31:33,112 --> 01:31:35,194
♪ Ah-Ooh ♪
2025
01:31:42,444 --> 01:31:46,112
(mournful orchestral music)
2026
01:32:00,546 --> 01:32:03,128
(music fading)
2027
01:32:08,318 --> 01:32:11,568
(snapping tree branch)
2028
01:32:13,586 --> 01:32:16,586
(slow solemn music)
2029
01:32:25,779 --> 01:32:29,196
(roaring crackling fire)
2030
01:32:31,926 --> 01:32:36,926
♪ Ah-Ah-Ooh ♪
2031
01:32:38,832 --> 01:32:43,832
♪ Ooh-Ooh (increasing in intensity) ♪
2032
01:32:46,125 --> 01:32:48,207
♪ Ah-Ooh ♪
2033
01:32:49,970 --> 01:32:53,053
(orangutan chirping)
2034
01:32:57,273 --> 01:33:00,940
(female singing mournfully)
2035
01:33:05,676 --> 01:33:07,311
(orangutan squealing)
2036
01:33:07,311 --> 01:33:08,894
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2037
01:33:10,770 --> 01:33:11,939
(low talking)
2038
01:33:11,939 --> 01:33:15,840
♪ Ah-Ah-Ah ♪
2039
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,318
♪ Oh-Oh-Ah ♪
2040
01:33:18,318 --> 01:33:22,809
♪ Oh-Oh-Ah ♪
2041
01:33:22,809 --> 01:33:27,809
♪ Ooh-Ah ♪
2042
01:33:28,747 --> 01:33:33,552
♪ Oh-Oh-Oh ♪
2043
01:33:33,551 --> 01:33:35,384
♪ Ooh ♪
2044
01:33:54,617 --> 01:33:57,199
(somber music)
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