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[traffic passing]
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[traffic continues passing]
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♪ ♪
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[truck horn blares and echoes
in distance]
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Knox?
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You there?
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♪ ♪
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[panting softly]
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♪ ♪
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[remote beeps]
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[water dripping]
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-[birds chirping]
-[insects trilling]
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♪ ♪
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[helicopter blades whirring
in distance]
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[helicopter approaching]
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♪ ♪
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[knocking on door]
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MAN:
Richard?
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[knocking]
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Richard, I'm Don Sheppard.
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I'm a producer at 60 Minutes.
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Yeah, well,
how about you get lost.
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I have nothing to say.
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Look, I saw
your press conference.
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I read what your lawyer wrote.
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Richard, do you hear me?
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I-I really want to talk
with you.
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W
e
ll, I don't want to talk with
you.
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I've heard it all before, sir.
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You're just another lying
journalist like all the others.
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You don't give a crap about me.
Thank you.
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I-I don't blame you
for feeling this way.
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I-I would, too, in your shoes.
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But we're 60 Minutes.
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We don't chase ratings,
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a
n
d we don't go in for
sensationalism.
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We just seek the truth.
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Plain and simple.
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Oh, yeah? What-what
do you think the truth is?
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I don't know.
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B
u
t I sure as hell want to find
out.
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Don't you think
you should at least hear us out?
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[insects trilling]
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[insects trilling]
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You can come on out.
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I'm alone. Wasn't followed.
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Thank God.
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I do.
I-I truly thank God for you.
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You can have that.
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It's food and supplies.
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Oh, man, I've been so hungry.
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[chuckles softly]
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I
k
eep thinking about you sending
the FBI running.
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Whole lot of shit-stained BDUs
that day, huh?
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W
e
ll, we showed them who owns
these woods,
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and it ain't the Feds.
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[chuckles]:
No.
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But, you know, I...
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I see this FBI chopper.
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Keeps circling around real low
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like they didn't get
the message.
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H
e
y, if-if we got a .30-06 and a
whole bunch of ammo,
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I bet we could bring that thing
right down from the sky.
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Listen,
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them folks been breaking
their backs on these mountains,
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scratching out a living?
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That's my family.
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And I will fight for them
if need be
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-'cause no one else will.
-Amen.
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Well, taking down
an FBI chopper?
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That gets my family killed.
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I won't allow that.
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You understand me?
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No, you're right.
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Thank you.
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Thou shalt not kill.
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I believe that.
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And even though I saved
hundreds of unborn lives,
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I still have nightmares
about that cop in Alabama.
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I don't want any more blood
on my conscience.
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I-I... I don't even have
a squirrel rifle.
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I may talk big,
but I'm just a sitting duck.
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And that's why...
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I
a
sked you for that map of all
the FBI positions.
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I
n
eed to know where they are and
when so I can avoid them.
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[sighs]
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All right, let's take a look.
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Hold this.
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Now... FBI base is here.
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-It's big.
-Yeah.
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N
o
w, we Regulators essentially
control
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the entire interior
of the forest.
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FBI?
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They have the whole thing
surrounded, so you can't escape.
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-They're basically
bringing in an army.
-Mm.
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So we need to be real careful
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until I can implement
your exfil.
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What exfil?
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Well, it's just
in the planning phase,
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but I'm working
to get you past the FBI cordon
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and out of these woods safely.
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Huh.
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The best thing
for this community
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is gonna be for you
to quietly disappear.
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That way, folks can
go back to living
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their normal, quiet lives,
and you...
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can go back
to saving them babies.
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Everyone wins.
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Now, your mission...
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is to stay away.
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You so much as see
an FBI patrol,
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you have failed.
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Do you copy me?
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Yes, sir.
Loud and clear.
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Okay.
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Thank you.
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You be safe.
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♪ ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ ♪
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[rope creaks]
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♪ ♪
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[chatter in distance]
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[indistinct chatter]
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Open the gate.
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[indistinct
police radio chatter]
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[indistinct police
radio chatter continues]
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All right, where are we?
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Sir, now that we have
the firepower,
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the plan is to start moving
back into the woods in force.
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We establish
rolling command posts,
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take back the forest
acre by acre.
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If the militia resist,
we hit back, hard.
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Drive then deeper
into the woods.
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MAN: We expect
the militia to concentrate
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i
n
The Regulators' fortified
compound.
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Once we locate the compound,
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we'll surround it,
flush 'em out.
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Correct me if I'm wrong,
but this plan,
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occupying the woods,
acre by acre,
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seems like it can only lead
to a protracted war.
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Frankly, sir, you're already
at war with the militia.
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This is a plan
to start winning the war.
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If John Gray is sheltered
in a fortified compound
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and there's a siege,
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how does that not end up
like another Waco?
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Let me think about it.
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Copy.
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W
a
ging war against American
civilians?
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People who had nothing to do
with Rudolph's bombs?
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That's not why
I joined the FBI.
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You got a better plan,
I'm all ears, Jack.
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But we both know
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Louis Freeh didn't send you
an army for you not to use it.
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♪ ♪
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[quietly imitates gunshot]
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♪ ♪
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[chickens clucking]
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[grunts]
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Come here.
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-Come here. Come here.
-[chickens clucking]
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Come here.
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[door closes]
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♪ ♪
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[gunshot]
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[grunts]
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Goddamn it.
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[grunts]
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Goddamn... it.
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[Rudolph hoots, chuckles]
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[Rudolph pants]
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Oh, give you a hand?
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-Obliged.
-Oh, happy to help.
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[both grunting]
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Y
o
u live out here all by yourself?
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Pretty much.
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Just me and my brother.
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[both grunting]
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You're pretty cut off here, huh?
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Yup. Like it that way.
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Yeah, of the same mind myself.
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Go on.
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[sniffs]
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Yeah, folks fly in here
from New York
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just to find some peace,
then fly back out a week later.
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Dumbest thing I ever heard of.
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You build that thing?
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Yes, sir.
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-Nantahala Harley.
-[chuckles]
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It run?
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Yes, sir.
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Some folks got a '57 Chevy.
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I got me a $57 Chevy.
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[laughs]
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[door creaking]
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What's wrong with him?
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Cancer.
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My brother Guthrie.
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♪ ♪
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You got cancer?
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Yeah, my daddy died of cancer.
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What're these here?
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These doing anything for you?
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[weakly]:
No.
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No, of course not.
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The government allows you
to have these
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'cause they know
it won't do nothing.
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They know
if we're healthy and strong,
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we wouldn't put up
with their New World Order shit.
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You ever hear of Laetrile?
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Heard about it.
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Yeah.
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It's made from apricot pits.
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Couple injections of that stuff,
and the tumors are gone.
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Laetrile would have cured
my daddy's cancer in a week.
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But the FDA and the federal
government wouldn't allow it.
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That's why he died.
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You in pain?
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Well, I got something else
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the government
don't want us to have.
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God bless you, sir.
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Here.
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-[insects trilling]
-[food sizzling]
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DAUBERT:
We tried living in town
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some years back.
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Didn't take.
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Weren't for us.
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No, sir.
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Their rules, man.
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Yeah, you think Murphy is bad.
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I been to New York City.
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[laughs]:
Shit.
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I look at those people.
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I'm looking down on them,
and I see ants.
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You know, just little tiny ants
running around,
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following their rules
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and obeying their pheromones,
you know?
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Carrying around
some little crumb
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like it's the be-all-end-all,
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when it's just a crumb
and you're an ant.
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A
n
d if I reached down and I
squashed you...
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...the universe
wouldn't give a shit.
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Huh.
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[wolves howling in distance]
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Mm.
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And on the other hand,
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you put your finger
in the anthill...
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you watch 'em all
run around like crazy
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because God himself
just blasted their world.
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00:18:15,956 --> 00:18:17,226
Yeah.
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That's something, huh?
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Yes, sir.
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GUTHRIE:
Ain't it nice to have company?
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We don't see nobody.
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00:18:28,003 --> 00:18:31,323
You're the first soul we've seen
up here in six months.
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-GUTHRIE: Six or eight.
-Yeah.
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-God's honest truth.
-Huh.
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You ever go down to town?
Down Murphy?
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00:18:39,980 --> 00:18:43,120
Every few months, I got
to go get his pills for him.
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Get a few things
from the Walmart, too.
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What, you take the Harley?
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It can carry
a load back up here?
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-Sure can.
-Yeah?
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[chuckles softly]
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That baby,
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00:18:55,064 --> 00:18:58,694
if I had the mind to patent it,
I'd make a fortune.
267
00:18:58,758 --> 00:19:01,998
People-- they'd be lined up,
throwing money at me.
268
00:19:02,071 --> 00:19:04,351
If I cared to.
269
00:19:04,419 --> 00:19:07,279
You're full of shit, Daubert.
270
00:19:07,353 --> 00:19:10,363
Well, I sure am glad
to know you both.
271
00:19:10,425 --> 00:19:13,385
I hope we can do this again
real soon.
272
00:19:17,328 --> 00:19:18,638
[guitar playing gently]
273
00:19:18,709 --> 00:19:22,639
♪ As I was walking all alane ♪
274
00:19:22,713 --> 00:19:27,583
♪ I saw twa corbies
making main ♪
275
00:19:27,649 --> 00:19:31,719
♪ Unto the other did say-o ♪
276
00:19:31,791 --> 00:19:35,971
♪
W
here shall we gag and dine
today-o? ♪
277
00:19:36,036 --> 00:19:39,316
♪ Where shall we
gag and dine today? ♪
278
00:19:39,385 --> 00:19:41,765
[chickens clucking]
279
00:19:41,835 --> 00:19:43,765
See that one there?
280
00:19:43,837 --> 00:19:45,597
That one's Eric.
281
00:19:46,599 --> 00:19:48,599
No way. The big one?
282
00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:50,150
-Yup.
-You named him after me?
283
00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:52,123
Yes, sir.
284
00:19:52,191 --> 00:19:53,301
-[chuckles]
-That gobbler,
285
00:19:53,364 --> 00:19:56,714
he knows what's going on.
286
00:19:56,781 --> 00:19:58,271
He knows.
287
00:20:00,199 --> 00:20:02,959
♪ Oh, that rattlesnake
taste mighty fine ♪
288
00:20:03,029 --> 00:20:06,449
♪
W
ith a little sip of blackberry
wine ♪
289
00:20:06,515 --> 00:20:11,135
♪ But right now his mama's
cooking sure would taste good ♪
290
00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:14,210
♪ You better run, Rudolph, run ♪
291
00:20:14,282 --> 00:20:16,592
♪ Run, Rudolph, run ♪
292
00:20:16,663 --> 00:20:21,573
♪ Or the FBI's a-gonna
shoot you with their gun. ♪
293
00:20:23,014 --> 00:20:25,364
[guitar continues playing]
294
00:20:28,537 --> 00:20:30,917
How'd you figure it out?
295
00:20:32,058 --> 00:20:33,748
I may not be the sharpest tool,
296
00:20:33,818 --> 00:20:38,268
but I can still put a few twos
together now and then.
297
00:20:38,340 --> 00:20:40,030
That change things?
298
00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:41,860
[guitar stops playing]
299
00:20:41,930 --> 00:20:44,140
Hell no.
300
00:20:44,208 --> 00:20:46,868
You're a goddamn hero.
301
00:20:46,935 --> 00:20:48,935
I'm honored
that you're here with us.
302
00:20:49,006 --> 00:20:52,836
Now, guys like us,
who stand up for our beliefs,
303
00:20:52,906 --> 00:20:54,426
we got to stick together.
304
00:20:54,494 --> 00:20:56,884
-Amen, brother.
-Amen.
305
00:21:05,988 --> 00:21:08,158
Now, you ain't gonna go around
telling people you met me?
306
00:21:08,232 --> 00:21:11,202
-
Be careless, get me killed?
-
You know what side I'm on.
307
00:21:11,270 --> 00:21:13,790
And you know I'm no braggart.
308
00:21:13,858 --> 00:21:15,378
Well, good.
309
00:21:17,345 --> 00:21:18,895
I got a question for you.
310
00:21:21,866 --> 00:21:24,586
All that talk about taking
the Harley down to Walmart...
311
00:21:26,112 --> 00:21:28,802
You just tell me what you need.
312
00:21:28,873 --> 00:21:30,673
[chuckles softly]
313
00:21:33,775 --> 00:21:35,735
[engine roaring]
314
00:21:35,811 --> 00:21:37,711
♪ ♪
315
00:22:00,802 --> 00:22:02,322
[mutters]
316
00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,329
[inhales deeply]
317
00:22:07,567 --> 00:22:09,327
Thank you.
318
00:22:12,883 --> 00:22:14,643
I'm getting worried about
your brother.
319
00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:16,652
He should be back by now.
320
00:22:16,714 --> 00:22:20,684
No, i-it takes
a spell coming back.
321
00:22:20,753 --> 00:22:23,793
He's only got the sledge.
322
00:22:23,859 --> 00:22:26,549
Can't go so fast with cargo.
323
00:22:31,764 --> 00:22:33,804
[vehicle approaching]
324
00:22:38,495 --> 00:22:40,595
♪ ♪
325
00:23:07,834 --> 00:23:09,154
R
U
DOLPH: Daubert.
326
00:23:09,215 --> 00:23:10,525
Hey.
327
00:23:10,596 --> 00:23:12,836
Mission accomplished.
328
00:23:15,773 --> 00:23:17,953
You get it all?
Everything on the list?
329
00:23:18,017 --> 00:23:19,157
Every last thing.
330
00:23:19,225 --> 00:23:20,675
All right.
331
00:23:22,297 --> 00:23:24,777
-They had a sale on Mentos.
-[chuckles softly]
332
00:23:24,851 --> 00:23:26,721
S
o
I grabbed them if you want some.
333
00:23:28,545 --> 00:23:30,855
-Mixed berry.
-Tell you what.
334
00:23:30,926 --> 00:23:32,956
You keep those Mentos
for yourself.
335
00:23:33,032 --> 00:23:34,032
You earned them.
336
00:23:36,311 --> 00:23:37,901
Oh.
337
00:23:37,968 --> 00:23:39,558
Lookee here.
338
00:23:41,765 --> 00:23:44,035
[chuckles]
Ain't it somethin'?
339
00:23:44,112 --> 00:23:47,292
I thought you'd get a laugh
out of it.
340
00:23:47,356 --> 00:23:49,076
They're all over the place.
341
00:23:49,151 --> 00:23:50,911
You look like Christ himself
on there.
342
00:23:50,981 --> 00:23:53,261
Now, you were careful
when you took that, right?
343
00:23:53,328 --> 00:23:55,228
Sure was. I grabbed it
right off a telephone pole.
344
00:23:55,295 --> 00:23:56,775
Yeah.
345
00:23:58,471 --> 00:24:00,851
Sure is a shit-ton of zeroes,
ain't it?
346
00:24:00,922 --> 00:24:04,482
Those scumbags think
they can buy our loyalty.
347
00:24:04,546 --> 00:24:07,096
Not for all the zeroes
in the world.
348
00:24:08,239 --> 00:24:09,549
Thank you.
349
00:24:09,620 --> 00:24:11,620
You did great.
350
00:24:28,984 --> 00:24:31,474
-[birds chirping]
-[insects trilling]
351
00:24:59,877 --> 00:25:02,047
What were those? Gunshots, man?
352
00:25:02,121 --> 00:25:04,051
♪ ♪
353
00:25:15,686 --> 00:25:18,026
Eric?
354
00:25:21,209 --> 00:25:23,109
Oh.
355
00:25:23,176 --> 00:25:25,586
Daubert shot himself.
356
00:25:25,662 --> 00:25:27,152
What?
357
00:25:27,215 --> 00:25:28,865
Why?
358
00:25:28,941 --> 00:25:31,461
Well, he killed himself
out of grief.
359
00:25:31,530 --> 00:25:33,150
'Cause you died.
360
00:25:36,535 --> 00:25:38,635
You're joking.
361
00:25:38,709 --> 00:25:41,229
Oh, shit, man.
362
00:25:41,298 --> 00:25:43,328
Don't scare me like that.
363
00:25:43,403 --> 00:25:45,303
You're joking, right?
364
00:25:53,137 --> 00:25:54,477
Eric.
365
00:25:54,553 --> 00:25:56,113
Please.
366
00:25:56,175 --> 00:25:57,585
It's me.
367
00:25:57,659 --> 00:25:59,659
You know me.
368
00:25:59,730 --> 00:26:01,320
Please?
369
00:26:01,387 --> 00:26:04,107
[panting]:
Whatever you want, just tell me.
370
00:26:04,183 --> 00:26:05,673
You can have it.
371
00:26:05,736 --> 00:26:08,596
What I want?
372
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,640
You're giving it to me
right now.
373
00:26:10,707 --> 00:26:12,637
This is it.
374
00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:15,256
I'm not an ant.
375
00:26:15,332 --> 00:26:17,682
Eric, I-I'm Guthrie.
376
00:26:17,748 --> 00:26:19,298
I'm not an ant.
377
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:22,170
Well, depends on
your perspective, don't it?
378
00:26:22,235 --> 00:26:23,955
-[panting]
-Oh.
379
00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:25,650
You can go to church
your whole life
380
00:26:25,722 --> 00:26:27,312
-and never feel like this.
-[grunting]
381
00:26:27,378 --> 00:26:29,378
Like God himself.
382
00:26:29,449 --> 00:26:30,759
"The Lord giveth,
383
00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:32,970
and the Lord taketh away."
384
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:34,629
[grunting]
385
00:26:34,696 --> 00:26:37,106
It'd be better if you weren't
such a goddamn cripple.
386
00:26:37,181 --> 00:26:38,151
But, oh, well.
387
00:26:38,217 --> 00:26:39,387
[muffled grunting]
388
00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:00,692
[birds chirping]
389
00:27:25,713 --> 00:27:27,683
-[birds chirping]
-[insects trilling]
390
00:27:52,705 --> 00:27:54,775
♪ ♪
391
00:28:24,599 --> 00:28:26,429
[whistling "Run Rudolph Run"]
392
00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,792
[horns honking]
393
00:28:57,701 --> 00:28:59,191
Sorry.
394
00:28:59,254 --> 00:29:00,534
Wow, look at it.
395
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,360
Y
e
ah, don't let it get to your
head.
396
00:29:02,430 --> 00:29:04,470
We're here to say
thank you for the offer,
397
00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:07,365
but no way
are we going on 60 Minutes
398
00:29:07,435 --> 00:29:09,955
u
n
less we control every single
shot.
399
00:29:10,024 --> 00:29:12,654
-You hear me?
-Yeah, but wow.
400
00:29:12,716 --> 00:29:14,296
All right, come on.
401
00:29:15,443 --> 00:29:17,003
Yeah. Yeah.
402
00:29:17,065 --> 00:29:19,065
MIKE:
Gentlemen.
403
00:29:19,136 --> 00:29:20,966
Mr. Wallace.
It's a pleasure, sir.
404
00:29:21,035 --> 00:29:22,925
The pleasure's mine.
405
00:29:23,002 --> 00:29:24,942
Watson Bryant.
Pleasure, Mr. Wallace.
406
00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:31,910
Thank you.
407
00:29:31,977 --> 00:29:33,497
[clears throat]
408
00:29:35,946 --> 00:29:39,116
What are you looking for
from us, exactly?
409
00:29:39,191 --> 00:29:41,021
We don't give you
the questions in advance.
410
00:29:41,089 --> 00:29:43,259
We don't tell you
what we're going to cover.
411
00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:45,823
You either
do the interview or not.
412
00:29:45,887 --> 00:29:48,127
Our house, our rules.
413
00:29:49,373 --> 00:29:51,243
What we're looking for,
Mr. Wallace,
414
00:29:51,306 --> 00:29:54,586
is something that tells us
that you've done your homework.
415
00:29:54,654 --> 00:29:57,664
That you're looking beyond
the goddamn fictional bullshit
416
00:29:57,726 --> 00:29:59,626
of the FBI or the other media.
417
00:29:59,694 --> 00:30:01,214
This is 60 Minutes,
418
00:30:01,282 --> 00:30:03,632
the most respected news program
in America.
419
00:30:03,698 --> 00:30:08,188
And CNN is CNN
and Tom Brokaw is Tom Brokaw,
420
00:30:08,254 --> 00:30:10,844
but so far they've all
just been parroting
421
00:30:10,912 --> 00:30:13,642
the other newspapers or the FBI.
422
00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:17,568
S
o
you'll excuse me if I ask for
something more concrete.
423
00:30:20,163 --> 00:30:23,513
We've read your dossier
from the press conference,
424
00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:25,510
very carefully.
425
00:30:25,582 --> 00:30:28,552
But we had our own independent
investigators go to the park
426
00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:30,069
to conduct their research.
427
00:30:30,138 --> 00:30:33,518
What did they find?
428
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:37,420
We also researched the FBI,
into everything it found
429
00:30:37,490 --> 00:30:40,870
and how they conducted
their investigation.
430
00:30:40,942 --> 00:30:44,222
And our research into you.
431
00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:48,430
Your history, your work history,
your criminal history.
432
00:30:48,501 --> 00:30:50,231
Everything.
433
00:30:50,296 --> 00:30:51,816
So if you're looking
for reassurance
434
00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:56,064
that we've done our homework,
we've done our homework.
435
00:30:56,130 --> 00:30:57,650
But if you're looking
for reassurance
436
00:30:57,717 --> 00:31:01,137
that we're going to proclaim
your innocence on air...
437
00:31:03,102 --> 00:31:05,042
...that's not what happens.
438
00:31:06,381 --> 00:31:08,251
Well, Mr. Wallace,
your producers were...
439
00:31:08,314 --> 00:31:12,564
My only loyalty rests
with my 15 million viewers.
440
00:31:12,629 --> 00:31:16,529
What my viewers want,
what they expect from us,
441
00:31:16,598 --> 00:31:19,048
is excellent journalism.
442
00:31:19,118 --> 00:31:20,458
What they want,
what they expect,
443
00:31:20,533 --> 00:31:23,433
is to see Richard
get eviscerated on air.
444
00:31:23,502 --> 00:31:25,472
I mean, that's the whole reason
that you're asking us
445
00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:27,198
to do this,
because the whole nation
446
00:31:27,264 --> 00:31:30,104
will tune in to see
Richard Jewell the Bomber
447
00:31:30,164 --> 00:31:34,444
take a nosedive off a cliff
on national TV.
448
00:31:34,513 --> 00:31:36,553
Yes, and?
449
00:31:36,618 --> 00:31:39,478
And...
450
00:31:39,552 --> 00:31:41,932
is he gonna splat?
451
00:31:42,003 --> 00:31:44,253
Or is his parachute gonna open?
452
00:31:45,213 --> 00:31:46,913
I'm not sure.
453
00:31:46,974 --> 00:31:48,634
That depends on the facts.
454
00:31:48,699 --> 00:31:52,499
We ask the tough questions
and let that speak for itself.
455
00:31:52,565 --> 00:31:55,495
So, yes, you're jumping
off a cliff.
456
00:31:55,568 --> 00:31:58,398
And your parachute
may or may not open.
457
00:31:58,468 --> 00:32:01,638
You might be exonerated
in front of the entire world.
458
00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,472
Or you might splat.
459
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:07,509
T
h
at's the rules of the game here.
460
00:32:07,580 --> 00:32:09,860
Can't handle them?
461
00:32:09,928 --> 00:32:12,028
Don't play.
462
00:32:18,729 --> 00:32:21,149
So, there you go.
463
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:27,220
We take this as a lesson,
and we shop around.
464
00:32:27,290 --> 00:32:29,360
We find somewhere else
that'll give us a big exclusive
465
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:32,470
and tell it from our side.
466
00:32:32,536 --> 00:32:35,536
This is what we've been
looking for from the beginning.
467
00:32:35,608 --> 00:32:39,198
Journalist whose only loyalty
is to the truth.
468
00:32:41,718 --> 00:32:43,308
That's why people listen to him.
469
00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:45,195
But they very well could be
listening to him
470
00:32:45,273 --> 00:32:47,863
saying you're guilty.
471
00:32:47,931 --> 00:32:50,691
And if that happens,
472
00:32:50,761 --> 00:32:52,661
on 60 Minutes...
473
00:32:54,282 --> 00:32:56,012
...it'll be forever.
474
00:33:00,150 --> 00:33:03,020
So, what do you want to do?
475
00:33:03,084 --> 00:33:05,164
♪ ♪
476
00:33:20,895 --> 00:33:22,995
♪ ♪
477
00:33:29,179 --> 00:33:31,289
[quiet chatter]
478
00:33:36,255 --> 00:33:38,085
Hi, Richard.
479
00:33:38,154 --> 00:33:40,814
-Thank you.
-[quiet chatter continues]
480
00:33:43,159 --> 00:33:45,259
♪ ♪
481
00:34:02,971 --> 00:34:05,041
♪ ♪
482
00:34:18,021 --> 00:34:20,891
MIKE:
People say you're a fat,
failed security guard
483
00:34:20,955 --> 00:34:22,715
who lives with his mother.
484
00:34:22,784 --> 00:34:24,894
Is that accurate?
485
00:34:24,959 --> 00:34:27,819
It's unkind but true.
486
00:34:27,893 --> 00:34:31,413
P
e
ople also say that you're the
man who built, planted
487
00:34:31,483 --> 00:34:34,423
and detonated that bomb
in Centennial Olympic Park.
488
00:34:34,486 --> 00:34:36,656
Are you?
489
00:34:36,729 --> 00:34:39,219
-No, I am not.
-Oh, come on, Richard.
490
00:34:39,284 --> 00:34:42,014
We know you were
overzealous, aggressive,
491
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,600
even dangerous
at Piedmont College.
492
00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:48,288
We know you were arrested
for impersonating an officer.
493
00:34:48,362 --> 00:34:51,712
We know you were desperate
for a job, to be a hero,
494
00:34:51,779 --> 00:34:55,329
to prove yourself to all
the law enforcement in the park.
495
00:34:55,403 --> 00:34:57,963
The FBI has evidence
that you told a friend
496
00:34:58,026 --> 00:35:01,166
that you were gonna be "right
in the middle of that big mess."
497
00:35:01,237 --> 00:35:03,927
And they have evidence
that you pursued
498
00:35:03,998 --> 00:35:07,138
specialized explosives training.
499
00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:09,558
That you owned a green backpack
500
00:35:09,624 --> 00:35:12,144
like the one
used in the bombing.
501
00:35:12,213 --> 00:35:14,223
Do you deny any of that?
502
00:35:14,284 --> 00:35:16,634
No, sir, I do not.
503
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:20,010
And you're telling us that
it's just a huge coincidence
504
00:35:20,083 --> 00:35:22,783
that you happened to find a bomb
505
00:35:22,844 --> 00:35:26,234
through some sort of
sixth sense on that night?
506
00:35:26,296 --> 00:35:28,746
Doesn't it seem
far-fetched to you?
507
00:35:28,816 --> 00:35:32,026
And doesn't it seem
more reasonable to believe
508
00:35:32,095 --> 00:35:33,745
that you placed the bomb there
509
00:35:33,821 --> 00:35:36,001
so you could find it
and become a hero?
510
00:35:36,064 --> 00:35:39,864
-[sighs]
-Because that seems
a lot more plausible to me.
511
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:42,930
He just put his head in the
goddamn noose. We are screwed.
512
00:35:43,002 --> 00:35:46,872
I know it's hard
for many people to believe
513
00:35:46,937 --> 00:35:48,527
that someone who looks like me,
514
00:35:48,594 --> 00:35:52,674
someone who, um,
hadn't been successful in life,
515
00:35:52,736 --> 00:35:55,006
someone who's, uh, lower-class
516
00:35:55,083 --> 00:35:58,883
and has made a lot of mistakes
in his life could be a hero.
517
00:36:00,744 --> 00:36:02,824
One of the things
I've discovered about people,
518
00:36:02,884 --> 00:36:06,614
about prejudice,
is that it's somehow easier
519
00:36:06,681 --> 00:36:09,721
to look at me and imagine
that I'm a villain.
520
00:36:10,996 --> 00:36:13,136
But I say to you today,
521
00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:15,345
and I say to law enforcement,
522
00:36:15,414 --> 00:36:18,944
and to everyone
who will watch this:
523
00:36:19,004 --> 00:36:22,184
look beyond appearances
before you judge.
524
00:36:23,836 --> 00:36:25,216
Look inside my heart.
525
00:36:25,286 --> 00:36:28,386
You will see
that I'm an honorable man.
526
00:36:28,462 --> 00:36:30,362
Look at the facts,
527
00:36:30,429 --> 00:36:32,979
and you'll see
that I'm an innocent man.
528
00:36:34,916 --> 00:36:37,816
You tell him,
you beautiful sack of shit!
529
00:36:37,885 --> 00:36:40,125
MIKE:
"An innocent man."
530
00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,748
Well, that's not what
the journalists are saying.
531
00:36:42,821 --> 00:36:44,101
And that's not what
532
00:36:44,167 --> 00:36:46,887
the Federal Bureau
of Investigation is saying.
533
00:36:46,963 --> 00:36:48,523
Let me show you this.
534
00:36:51,139 --> 00:36:53,939
Headline after headline.
535
00:36:54,004 --> 00:36:56,394
They can't all be untrue.
536
00:36:56,455 --> 00:36:58,455
They can be and they are.
537
00:36:58,526 --> 00:37:01,286
The media wanted
a dramatic headline
538
00:37:01,357 --> 00:37:04,047
to sell papers,
so they created one.
539
00:37:04,118 --> 00:37:07,398
You're saying that
the entire media establishment,
540
00:37:07,466 --> 00:37:10,366
everyone from
the Atlanta
Journal-Constitution
541
00:37:10,435 --> 00:37:13,465
to CNN to CBS News itself
542
00:37:13,541 --> 00:37:15,651
is placing sensationalism
543
00:37:15,716 --> 00:37:17,956
over truth?
544
00:37:18,028 --> 00:37:19,998
That the FBI,
545
00:37:20,065 --> 00:37:23,065
the most respected law
enforcement bureau in the world,
546
00:37:23,137 --> 00:37:25,307
is, what, lying?
547
00:37:25,381 --> 00:37:26,691
Or just wrong?
548
00:37:26,761 --> 00:37:29,421
The FBI wanted to look good.
549
00:37:29,488 --> 00:37:33,038
They wanted to... to look
strong and effective
550
00:37:33,112 --> 00:37:35,562
and give everyone the impression
that they were safe.
551
00:37:35,632 --> 00:37:37,882
"We got our man,
and we got him quickly."
552
00:37:37,945 --> 00:37:40,185
So they leaked my name
to the press.
553
00:37:40,258 --> 00:37:41,878
They colluded with the media,
554
00:37:41,949 --> 00:37:43,709
a
n
d everyone got what they wanted,
555
00:37:43,778 --> 00:37:45,608
even if it meant telling a lie
556
00:37:45,677 --> 00:37:47,537
and destroying
an innocent man's life.
557
00:37:48,783 --> 00:37:51,923
You claim that the FBI's
own timeline
558
00:37:51,993 --> 00:37:54,483
essentially eliminates you
as a suspect.
559
00:37:54,548 --> 00:37:57,028
That you could neither
have placed the bomb
560
00:37:57,102 --> 00:38:00,242
nor made the 911 call
warning about the bomb.
561
00:38:00,312 --> 00:38:03,002
♪ ♪
562
00:38:03,073 --> 00:38:06,733
60 Minuteshas investigated
your claims independently.
563
00:38:07,975 --> 00:38:10,385
And we've discovered
that not only
564
00:38:10,460 --> 00:38:12,600
does the FBI's timeline
565
00:38:12,669 --> 00:38:14,709
eliminate you as a suspect,
566
00:38:14,775 --> 00:38:18,185
but the size and the nature
of the bomb itself
567
00:38:18,261 --> 00:38:20,301
makes the FBI's theory
568
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:22,677
extremely improbable.
569
00:38:22,748 --> 00:38:24,438
A
s
I've been saying from the
beginning,
570
00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:25,859
I am an innocent man.
571
00:38:27,408 --> 00:38:29,648
And you proved that, didn't you?
572
00:38:29,721 --> 00:38:32,831
You went public with the facts
exonerating you.
573
00:38:32,896 --> 00:38:34,896
Yes, sir.
574
00:38:34,967 --> 00:38:38,207
You proved your innocence
beyond a doubt.
575
00:38:38,281 --> 00:38:40,631
What was their reaction?
576
00:38:40,697 --> 00:38:42,457
They didn't listen.
577
00:38:42,527 --> 00:38:46,567
And they still haven't listened,
even though the facts indicate
578
00:38:46,634 --> 00:38:49,784
t
h
at the real bomber is still out
there.
579
00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,749
That is correct, sir.
580
00:38:53,814 --> 00:38:55,924
It'll never end, sir.
581
00:38:55,988 --> 00:38:59,508
Because the FBI
leaked your name.
582
00:38:59,578 --> 00:39:02,718
-God.
-And the media valued
a good story or an easy...
583
00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:05,447
[scoffs]
584
00:39:08,518 --> 00:39:11,968
Why'd you join the FBI, Stacey?
585
00:39:12,039 --> 00:39:13,039
Me?
586
00:39:13,109 --> 00:39:16,109
Growing up in East Point,
587
00:39:16,181 --> 00:39:18,011
t
h
e cops always looked like you.
588
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:21,529
And I wanted the little girls
in East Point
589
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,460
to be able to look at me
and see
590
00:39:23,533 --> 00:39:25,983
there's someone
who looks like you.
591
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:27,883
Who's out there
trying to fix things,
592
00:39:27,951 --> 00:39:29,751
trying to make things better.
593
00:39:29,815 --> 00:39:33,155
Instead of just watching
while this bad shit happened
594
00:39:33,232 --> 00:39:35,302
to good people and praying
you wouldn't be next.
595
00:39:35,373 --> 00:39:37,483
What if we're the ones
596
00:39:37,547 --> 00:39:40,407
doing bad shit to good people?
597
00:39:40,481 --> 00:39:42,621
Remember when we were
questioning him?
598
00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:45,070
The whole time we were
talking to him,
599
00:39:45,141 --> 00:39:47,521
he was tying himself up
in knots trying to tell us
600
00:39:47,592 --> 00:39:49,082
what he thought
we wanted to hear.
601
00:39:49,145 --> 00:39:51,725
"Good boy syndrome,"
whatever you called it.
602
00:39:51,803 --> 00:39:53,293
Yeah, so?
603
00:39:53,356 --> 00:39:55,286
So what's your problem?
604
00:39:55,358 --> 00:39:58,638
My problem is I'm tying myself
up in goddamn knots
605
00:39:58,706 --> 00:40:01,706
trying to keep
from speaking the truth.
606
00:40:01,778 --> 00:40:04,748
And I'd say I'm worried
we screwed over an innocent man.
607
00:40:05,748 --> 00:40:08,478
We played politics.
608
00:40:08,544 --> 00:40:12,004
G
o
t distracted by headlines, and
while we were doing that,
609
00:40:12,064 --> 00:40:14,724
we let Rudolph off the hook
to run around
610
00:40:14,791 --> 00:40:16,791
free to plan his next...
611
00:40:20,003 --> 00:40:23,113
I'd say we compromised
our integrity.
612
00:40:23,179 --> 00:40:25,459
The FBI's integrity.
613
00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,526
A
n
d we're still compromising it
by sitting here doing nothing,
614
00:40:28,598 --> 00:40:30,498
instead of making things right.
615
00:40:30,566 --> 00:40:32,286
Seriously?
616
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,910
What if it's true?
617
00:40:33,983 --> 00:40:36,503
You know the evidence
doesn't say that, Jack.
618
00:40:36,572 --> 00:40:38,372
Some of it.
619
00:40:38,436 --> 00:40:40,886
B
u
t what if we're only seeing the
evidence we want to see?
620
00:40:40,955 --> 00:40:42,265
Okay, shit.
621
00:40:42,336 --> 00:40:44,926
What's happening right now?
622
00:40:44,994 --> 00:40:46,934
We still have that dossier
from Embry.
623
00:40:50,758 --> 00:40:52,928
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
was the first to report
624
00:40:53,002 --> 00:40:55,212
-that you were a suspect.
-Thank you.
625
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,350
But not only that, they said
626
00:40:57,420 --> 00:41:00,250
that you fit the profile
of a lone bomber,
627
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,359
a frustrated police wannabe
628
00:41:02,425 --> 00:41:04,285
who wanted to become a hero.
629
00:41:04,358 --> 00:41:07,258
Suggesting that you had planted the bomb there
630
00:41:07,326 --> 00:41:10,986
so that you'd come off
as a hero.
631
00:41:11,054 --> 00:41:13,194
RICHARD:
It's all a lie.
632
00:41:13,263 --> 00:41:15,753
Whatever will sell
633
00:41:15,818 --> 00:41:18,888
or keep the story in the news
634
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,689
is what they've been saying.
635
00:41:20,754 --> 00:41:22,654
BARTENDER:
You want me to
turn it off, Kath?
636
00:41:22,721 --> 00:41:25,451
-No, leave it.
-WALLACE:
The Journal also reported
637
00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:28,347
i
n
vestigators believed Jewell
was the bomber
638
00:41:28,416 --> 00:41:32,206
and that he had made
a 911 call about the bomb
639
00:41:32,282 --> 00:41:34,012
before it exploded.
640
00:41:34,077 --> 00:41:36,107
But Jewell's attorneys
later demonstrated
641
00:41:36,183 --> 00:41:38,013
that the call was made
while Jewell
642
00:41:38,081 --> 00:41:40,881
w
a s still inside Centennial Park.
643
00:41:40,946 --> 00:41:43,326
The Journal
and reporter Kathy Scruggs
644
00:41:43,397 --> 00:41:46,397
refused to back down,
even when their stories
645
00:41:46,469 --> 00:41:49,819
were proven to be
demonstrably false.
646
00:41:49,886 --> 00:41:51,886
Jewell has never been charged,
647
00:41:51,957 --> 00:41:54,057
and has never been arrested.
648
00:41:54,132 --> 00:41:56,382
B
u
t night and day, wherever he
goes,
649
00:41:56,444 --> 00:41:58,964
-Excuse me.
-Jewell is followed
by the FBI.
650
00:41:59,033 --> 00:42:00,933
When Jewell goes out
for a drive,
651
00:42:01,001 --> 00:42:03,421
-the FBI is on his tail.
-Whoa.
652
00:42:03,486 --> 00:42:04,626
Not just one agent,
653
00:42:04,694 --> 00:42:08,494
but a whole FBI convoy.
654
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,840
-RICHARD:
I fought so hard to get here,
-Holy shit.
655
00:42:11,908 --> 00:42:13,978
to get my story told.
656
00:42:14,048 --> 00:42:15,878
-I've said this
all so many times
-This is it.
657
00:42:15,947 --> 00:42:17,977
But nobody ever listened.
658
00:42:18,052 --> 00:42:21,092
WALLACE:
Well, they're sure
listening now.
659
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,399
Because even in a world
where everybody's
660
00:42:23,471 --> 00:42:25,301
selling stories,
661
00:42:25,370 --> 00:42:27,720
the truth still matters.
662
00:42:27,786 --> 00:42:29,646
Thank you
for helping me tell it.
663
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,339
RICHARD:
Thank you.
664
00:42:32,895 --> 00:42:34,545
WALLACE:
The FBI has refused
665
00:42:34,621 --> 00:42:36,521
to discuss its investigation,
666
00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:38,488
refused to say whether
667
00:42:38,556 --> 00:42:39,936
Jewell is still a suspect,
668
00:42:40,005 --> 00:42:43,245
and refused
to discuss the leak.
669
00:42:43,319 --> 00:42:45,319
A
n
d by the way, Mrs. Jewell says
670
00:42:45,390 --> 00:42:47,980
the FBI has still
not returned her Tupperware
671
00:42:48,048 --> 00:42:50,568
or her Disney tapes.
672
00:43:19,217 --> 00:43:20,597
Thank you.
673
00:43:22,116 --> 00:43:23,946
T
h
ank you. Thank you.
674
00:43:28,813 --> 00:43:30,473
You know what?
675
00:43:30,538 --> 00:43:32,128
-You know what?
-Yeah.
676
00:43:32,195 --> 00:43:34,845
-Yeah? You feel that?
-[laughing] Yeah.
677
00:43:34,922 --> 00:43:37,962
-You beautiful man. You did it.
-[laughing]
678
00:43:38,029 --> 00:43:41,269
Y
o
u did it! You did it!
679
00:43:41,342 --> 00:43:43,212
[both laughing]
680
00:43:45,312 --> 00:43:47,492
Oh...
681
00:43:47,555 --> 00:43:50,035
Come on, now.
God!
682
00:43:51,525 --> 00:43:53,625
[both laughing]
683
00:43:56,116 --> 00:43:58,116
-60 Minutes.
-[both laughing]
684
00:44:08,162 --> 00:44:11,792
Yeah. There.
685
00:44:13,512 --> 00:44:15,202
Uh-huh.
686
00:44:15,273 --> 00:44:17,173
Oh, this is it.
687
00:44:18,828 --> 00:44:21,558
Did you get my peat moss?
688
00:44:21,624 --> 00:44:22,974
Oh...
689
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:24,729
The pruning shears?
690
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,180
[chuckles]
691
00:44:28,251 --> 00:44:30,671
I'm sorry, honey.
692
00:44:30,737 --> 00:44:32,427
What did you get at Walmart?
693
00:44:34,154 --> 00:44:36,364
I bought a bomb.
694
00:44:40,056 --> 00:44:41,396
This wasn't on the list.
695
00:44:41,471 --> 00:44:43,511
You remember that
double helix wire--
696
00:44:43,577 --> 00:44:46,057
we couldn't figure it out?
It's the backing on this
697
00:44:46,131 --> 00:44:48,861
artificial wreath.
He used it as camouflage.
698
00:44:48,927 --> 00:44:51,967
Every single one
of these components--
699
00:44:52,034 --> 00:44:55,494
f
r
om Merry Christmas down to the
nails...
700
00:44:56,659 --> 00:44:58,389
He bought his bomb at Walmart.
701
00:45:02,182 --> 00:45:04,152
Just don't bring it
in the house.
702
00:45:12,882 --> 00:45:14,402
Yeah.
703
00:45:16,817 --> 00:45:19,887
Everything but the dynamite.
704
00:45:33,661 --> 00:45:35,731
♪ ♪
705
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:56,440
Jack, this is
way above our pay grade.
706
00:45:56,512 --> 00:45:58,452
You're seeing one tiny piece
707
00:45:58,514 --> 00:46:00,344
of a very, very big puzzle.
708
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:03,969
There's got to be something
the leadership knows
709
00:46:04,037 --> 00:46:05,377
that we don't.
710
00:46:07,178 --> 00:46:09,908
Daddy knows best, huh?
711
00:46:09,974 --> 00:46:12,154
We gather the pieces,
they do the puzzle.
712
00:46:12,217 --> 00:46:15,317
Chain of command.
That's why it exists.
713
00:46:15,393 --> 00:46:19,263
'Cause, yeah,
Daddy usually does know best.
714
00:46:19,328 --> 00:46:20,918
All right.
715
00:46:20,985 --> 00:46:22,805
But look at it like this.
716
00:46:22,883 --> 00:46:24,403
If what's in this dossier--
717
00:46:24,471 --> 00:46:28,201
i-if what Embry
told us is true--
718
00:46:28,268 --> 00:46:30,238
Rudolph is obsessed
with law enforcement,
719
00:46:30,304 --> 00:46:33,244
that he's playing God,
watching us, manipulating us,
720
00:46:33,307 --> 00:46:37,037
manipulating the militiamen,
too, maybe. I...
721
00:46:37,104 --> 00:46:39,004
If Embry's right,
722
00:46:39,072 --> 00:46:41,872
it's not that we
trapped Rudolph in Nantahala.
723
00:46:41,937 --> 00:46:43,347
He...
724
00:46:45,561 --> 00:46:47,461
He trapped us.
725
00:47:07,065 --> 00:47:09,165
♪ ♪
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