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Right now I'd like
you to meet a young lady,
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a very lovely young lady,
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that I really think has
what it takes to be around
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for a long, long time to come.
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I'd like you to meet
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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♪ Feelin' better ♪
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♪ Now that we're through ♪
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♪ Feelin' better ♪
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♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪
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♪ I learned my lesson ♪
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♪ It left a scar ♪
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♪ Now I see
How you really are ♪
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♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
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♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
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♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪
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♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
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♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
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Here's a gal
who really sings great.
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We had her on the show last
year and she was sensational.
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My first guest
occupies a prominent place
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in the Top 40 record charts
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and she
has a big one right now.
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Linda Ronstadt is
one of the really great talents
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in country music.
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Would you welcome
please Linda Ronstadt.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
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♪ Now baby
and I'm going my way ♪
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♪ Forget about you, baby ♪
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♪ 'Cause I'm leavin'
To stay ♪
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♪ You're no good... ♪
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Linda could literally
sing anything.
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♪ No good
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I don't think anybody has tried more different styles
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and nailed it than Linda has.
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There's not that many people
that can pull off new wave music
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and rock and the most
beautiful country ballads.
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Her range is huge.
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She decided
what she wanted to do.
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More important what she
was authentic at doing.
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And they always told her no,
you can't do this,
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you'll ruin your career.
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She did it anyway.
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♪ Good ♪
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Someone
once asked why people sing.
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I answered that they sing
for any of the same reasons
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birds sing.
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They sing for a mate.
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To claim their territory.
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Or simply to give voice
to the delight of being alive
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in the midst of a beautiful day.
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They sing so the subsequent
generations won't forget what
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the current generations endured
or dreamed or delighted in.
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There are a lot of really
good singers out in the world.
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A lot of better singers
than I am.
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What I did that was different
from other singers,
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I did a whole lot of
different kinds of material.
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People would think that I was
trying to reinvent myself
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but I never invented
myself to start with.
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I just kind of popped out
into the world.
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My mom grew up in Michigan.
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Her dad was an inventor.
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He was the third to
Thomas Edison in the number
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of useful inventions in the 50s.
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He invented the electric stove,
the electric toaster.
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The thermostat for Westinghouse.
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But my grandmother
had Parkinson's disease
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and he spent all his money
trying to find a cure.
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And that's what I have now.
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My mom was really smart too.
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She wanted to study math
and physics
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and the University of Arizona
was really good for that.
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She came out to Tucson
where she met my father.
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My great grandfather
Frederick Ronstadt
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came from Germany
to Mexico in 1839.
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My father's father, Frederico,
moved to Tucson when he was 14
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to work as a wagon maker.
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But his true passion was music.
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So he started the Club
Filharmonico Tucsonense.
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He was the one who
wrote the arrangements
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and taught everybody
how to play their instruments.
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He was like the Music Man.
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If you wanted to serenade
your sweetheart,
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you'd get my grandfather's
band to go.
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And if you had a wedding
or a funeral,
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well, they'd show up for that.
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First time my mother ever saw
my dad he was riding his horse
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up the steps of her
sorority house.
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My dad had a lovely
baritone tenor voice
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and knew a lot of beautiful
Mexican love songs
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that were rooted
in his childhood.
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He serenaded my mother
underneath her balcony.
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And she fell big for him.
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♪ I'm a rambler ♪
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♪ I'm a gambler ♪
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♪ I'm a long way from home ♪
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♪ If you people ♪
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♪ Don't like me ♪
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♪ You can leave me alone ♪
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I grew up in Tucson
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on the last ten acres of my
grandfather's cattle ranch.
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We were very isolated
so if you wanted entertainment
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you kind of had
to make your own.
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There was a lot of music
going on in that house.
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Some of it came in
through the radio.
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That was my best
friend in the world.
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♪ How's about cooking... ♪
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We had an amazing radio
in Tucson
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because it was really close
to the border.
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We could get the
Louisiana Hayride.
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♪ Get goin'
Louisiana Hayride ♪
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♪ No use for callin' de roll ♪
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♪ Can't help... ♪
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American standards.
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♪... loving that man of mine ♪
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But my grandmother
and grandfather
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were classical music devotees.
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So I would go over to their
house on Saturday morning
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and listen to a live broadcast
from the Metropolitan Opera
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and come home and my dad
would be playing Mexican songs
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on the piano.
My mom would be playing
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some Gilbert and Sullivan piece.
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♪ True peace of mind ♪
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My sister loved Hank Williams.
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She loved country music.
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♪ I can't help it ♪
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♪ If I'm still in love
With you ♪
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My brother would be
singing really high soprano.
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He was in a world-class boys
choir and he was their soloist.
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She wanted to know how
to sing so I taught here.
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So she learned about vibrato
and all that kind of stuff
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when she was like five,
six years old.
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We learned so much about singing from each other.
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It was completely
incorporated into what we did.
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We sang at the dinner table,
we sang in the car,
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we sang with our hands
in the dishwater.
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I thought Spanish was this
magical musical language.
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When I was growing up
I thought people sang in Spanish
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and spoke in English.
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If you spoke Spanish on the
playground you'd be punished.
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You weren't allowed to do it.
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My sister and brother and I
eventually formed
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a little group.
We called ourselves
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The New Union Ramblers.
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We thought that sounded folky.
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Bobby Kimmel was a guitar
player that I met in Tucson.
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He wrote songs
about his own life.
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I remember them being
one of the best vocal groups
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I had ever heard.
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Bobby joined our family group
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and then he and I used to play
as a duet sometimes.
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We played little clubs in Tucson
but there wasn't very much
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opportunity for us there.
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At some point reality stepped
in and my sister had three kids.
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And then my brother went to
work for the police department.
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Bobby wanted to earn
some money playing music.
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So he went off to California.
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And I was the last man standing.
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♪ All the leaves are brown
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I went to LA with the
intention of forming a band.
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When I saw the quality of the
singers that were out there
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I started writing
to Linda saying
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if you come out we could form
a band and get a record deal.
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I knew they had more
clubs to play in Los Angeles.
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♪ California dreaming
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I was telling her
this is kind of an iffy thing.
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You might starve to death
or you might find yourself
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washing dishes
and waiting tables
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before you ever get discovered.
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She says I'm willing
to take the chance.
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I was 18 years old.
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We had a house on the beach
for 80 bucks a month
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in Santa Monica.
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We split the rent three ways.
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It was just great.
It was right on the beach.
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Once she got there
we got to work right away
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and we used to practice
every day.
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Bobby introduced me
to a really good guitar player
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named Kenny Edwards
and we formed a little band
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and we called ourselves
The Stone Ponies.
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♪ Look out your window ♪
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♪ The rain is turning
Into snow ♪
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We started playing
little beatnik dives
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and strange pizza parlors,
wherever we could get a job.
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♪ Oh how you love me... ♪
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There was the trip where I heard
this band called The Byrds.
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They had a light show
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and a lot of acid tripping
kind of stuff going on.
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The Whiskey A Go Go
was very rock and roll.
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I heard the Doors there
and I thought
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oh they're be a really hit band
if they get rid of their singer.
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♪ Go, love
Open up the door... ♪
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There was the Ash Grove.
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That was where you go
for authentic folk music.
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It's where I first
heard Ry Cooder.
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♪ Have you seen
that vigilante man? ♪
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Ry Cooder was then and now
the most amazing guitar player
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I've ever heard.
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I knew that had good musicians
in Los Angeles
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but this guy
is really something.
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I thought I'm staying here.
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I'm not going back
to Tucson to live.
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♪ All over the land ♪
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She came
to Los Angeles at a time
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when the LA rock and roll scene
was in gear and was going.
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Because, see, after
The Byrds did their thing
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with Mr. Tambourine Man,
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then the whole damn thing
broke loose
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and all the record companies
when scurrying around
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like headless chickens trying
to figure out what to do.
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Who can sing folk rock
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and how can we define what
this thing is going to be?
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♪ Hey Mr. Tambourine Man ♪
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♪ Play a song for me ♪
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There was a lot
of cross pollination
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that started happening
in the mid-60s, you know,
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country music and folk music
and rock music started
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commingling and blending and you
would get all these hybrids.
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The Troubadour,
just a few blocks from Hollywood Boulevard,
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is known as an avant garde cafe.
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It's the favorite of Hollywood's
young and young at heart.
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The Troubadour was where everybody went to hang out
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and to be noticed.
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You wanted to make yourself
known to the record community at
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large, you go to the Troubadour,
play an open mic night.
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I can't even name
all the great songwriters
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that came through there.
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I mean, Laura Nyro, Neil Young,
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Joni Mitchell, Tim Hardin,
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Kris Kristofferson, Rick Nelson,
Elton John,
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Jackson Browne.
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It was just week after week
of amazing,
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game-changing songwriters.
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♪ Some of them were dreamers ♪
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♪ Some of them were fools ♪
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♪ Who were making plans ♪
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♪ And thinking of the future ♪
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I mean, you tried to get a gig
at the Troubadour.
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You wanted to play
the Troubadour.
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All kinds of industry
people hung around in the bar.
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The Troubadour
is important because
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that's where you can get seen.
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It was the place to play.
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Like the minor leagues
in baseball.
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This was your chance,
this was your great chance.
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The Troubadour
was a bustling place.
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They had a hootenanny night
where new artists would come
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and sing a few songs and I used
to go to every hootenanny night
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to see if there was anybody
really talented.
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The Hoot, the Monday
night open mic Hootenanny
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where you'd wait
and get on the list
251
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and you go up there
and sing your new song.
252
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You got two or three songs.
253
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If you were no good you probably
didn't last the second song
254
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because were, "Hey, get off!"
255
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And maybe not
even the first song.
256
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♪ Oh, you and I, travel to the
Beat of a different drum... ♪
257
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I heard a song
called Different Drum
258
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by this bluegrass group
called The Greenbriar Boys.
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♪ Every time you make... ♪
260
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It was written by Mike Nesmith
261
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who was eventually going
to join the Monkees.
262
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♪ You cry and moan
And say it will work out ♪
263
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♪ But honey child
I've got my doubts ♪
264
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♪ You can't see the forest
For the trees ♪
265
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♪ So don't get me wrong
It's not that I knock it ♪
266
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♪ it's just that I am not
In the market ♪
267
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♪ For a boy who wants
To love only me ♪
268
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We got an immediate
response from managers
269
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and people who were interested
in our career.
270
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Herb Cohen
was managing Frank Zappa.
271
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We had head that he had
been a soldier of fortune.
272
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He was have killed somebody.
273
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He was a badass.
274
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But he was established
and he immediately said,
275
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"I can get you a record deal. "
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♪ I believe
And I see no sense... ♪
277
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We recorded a few things,
just the tree of us.
278
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Then he took those
to the people in power
279
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and said, "I want to
record these guys. "
280
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Capitol said okay.
281
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We signed papers and we
were off and running.
282
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♪ Live without me ♪
283
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So we recorded it
with a mandolin
284
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and a couple
of acoustic guitars
285
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and the record company
didn't like it.
286
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And so they said well come back,
we want to recut the song.
287
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Certainly everything
changed in the studio.
288
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They had a bunch
of strings in there
289
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and it was an orchestra
session. I went wait a minute,
290
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this isn't the way
I thought about the song.
291
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I said I don't want to put it
on the record because
292
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that wasn't the way
I'd originally envisioned it.
293
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♪ You and I count to the beat
Of a different drum ♪
294
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♪ Oh can't you tell
By the way I run ♪
295
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♪ Every time
You make eyes at me ♪
296
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It was a good thing
they didn't listen to me
297
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because it was a huge hit.
298
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I'm driving down the road,
you know, in my car
299
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listening to KTKT radio
and all of a sudden
300
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she's singing Different Drum.
301
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I said wait a minute!
302
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I loved her voice from the first time I heard her.
303
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I was a freshman in college.
304
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The Stone Poneys,
Different Drum.
305
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Yeah, baby!
306
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It was just like wow!
307
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It was just like to pull back
the covering
308
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of a fully developed
vocal stylist.
309
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♪ Yes and I ain't sayin'
You ain't pretty ♪
310
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♪ All I'm sayin' I'm not ready ♪
311
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Most of the time as a critic you're sitting there saying,
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"We don't give the artist a plus
for this and a minus for this.
313
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This is kind of good,
that's not so good. "
314
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Bang!
It was like a home run.
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♪ Goodbye! ♪
316
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♪ I believe in a... ♪
317
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We were out on this tour
318
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and Herby Cohen comes
to my hotel room and says,
319
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"I need to tell you that
when we get back to LA,
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the band is breaking up. "
321
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Everybody said, "I don't know
about you two guys
322
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but we want the girl singer. "
323
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The record company wanted to develop me as a solo artist.
324
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,379
Kenny decided to go off to India
and find a guru and meditate.
325
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And Bobby started a folk
club in LA called McCabe's.
326
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And I was left with
what in the world to sing.
327
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I was by myself.
328
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A harmony singer
with no material.
329
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The remarkable thing about the Stone Poney days was
330
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she had the nerve
to leave a male band
331
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after it had already had a hit
and go on her own.
332
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Will you welcome please
Ms. Linda Ronstadt?
333
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Ronstadt, Ronstadt.
334
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Did anyone ever suggest that
that isn't the most musical name
335
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in the world.
336
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That maybe you should
change it to Linda Marlow or...
337
00:18:46,964 --> 00:18:47,965
Is there a Linda Marlow?
338
00:18:47,999 --> 00:18:51,382
And once they learn how
to pronounce my name,
339
00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,695
that leads to free-for-all
kinds of variations.
340
00:18:53,729 --> 00:18:56,456
Glenn Campbell once
called me Linda Bedstead.
341
00:18:56,491 --> 00:18:58,493
You know, I remember you
when you were nothing
342
00:18:58,527 --> 00:19:00,253
but a little Stone Poney.
343
00:19:00,288 --> 00:19:01,496
Oh yeah?
344
00:19:01,530 --> 00:19:02,980
I didn't have any idea
what that means.
345
00:19:03,014 --> 00:19:06,363
I know that you were
part of a group, right?
346
00:19:06,397 --> 00:19:08,192
Let's see, how do I explain this
on television
347
00:19:08,227 --> 00:19:09,469
and not get yelled at.
348
00:19:09,504 --> 00:19:10,919
Oh, then maybe you don't.
349
00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:13,887
- I think I don't.
- Oh, yeah?
350
00:19:13,922 --> 00:19:15,751
Oh, is it an inside meaning?
351
00:19:15,786 --> 00:19:18,547
Yeah, it has a
lot of different...
352
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♪ Love will abide ♪
353
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,314
♪ Take things in stride ♪
354
00:19:28,937 --> 00:19:32,803
♪ Sounds like good advice ♪
355
00:19:32,837 --> 00:19:37,256
♪ But there's no one
At my side ♪
356
00:19:37,290 --> 00:19:42,364
♪ And time washes clean ♪
357
00:19:44,539 --> 00:19:47,611
♪ Love's wounds unseen ♪
358
00:19:50,510 --> 00:19:54,238
♪ That's what someone
Told me ♪
359
00:19:54,273 --> 00:19:58,484
♪ But I don't know
What it means ♪
360
00:19:58,518 --> 00:20:01,728
♪ 'Cause I've ♪
361
00:20:01,763 --> 00:20:05,525
♪ Done everything I know ♪
362
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,253
♪ To try to make you mine ♪
363
00:20:09,943 --> 00:20:14,776
♪ And I think it's gonna
Hurt me ♪
364
00:20:15,397 --> 00:20:20,022
♪ For a long, long time ♪
365
00:20:20,575 --> 00:20:25,787
♪ But I've done
Everything I know ♪
366
00:20:26,512 --> 00:20:30,930
♪ To try to make you mine ♪
367
00:20:31,551 --> 00:20:35,831
♪ Think I'm gonna
Love you ♪
368
00:20:36,522 --> 00:20:41,561
♪ For a long, long time ♪
369
00:20:42,562 --> 00:20:44,081
I met her in the Troubadour.
370
00:20:44,115 --> 00:20:46,946
She had this hit
called Long, Long Time.
371
00:20:49,535 --> 00:20:51,053
Apparently she knew
who I was
372
00:20:51,088 --> 00:20:53,918
based on a record I'd made
with Ricky Nelson.
373
00:20:56,956 --> 00:21:00,649
She said I like that band you
put together for Rick Nelson.
374
00:21:00,684 --> 00:21:02,410
Could you do that for me?
375
00:21:02,755 --> 00:21:05,344
♪ She's got everything
She needs ♪
376
00:21:05,378 --> 00:21:06,897
♪ She's an artist ♪
377
00:21:06,931 --> 00:21:09,658
♪ She don't look back ♪
378
00:21:10,521 --> 00:21:12,972
Herby Cohen was the
manager when I met her.
379
00:21:13,006 --> 00:21:14,939
He gave me these tickets
to Hawaii
380
00:21:14,974 --> 00:21:17,390
for the Capitol Records
convention.
381
00:21:17,425 --> 00:21:19,772
Linda and I show up
at San Francisco Airport
382
00:21:19,806 --> 00:21:23,776
to fly to Honolulu and lo
and behold there was the FBI
383
00:21:23,810 --> 00:21:26,848
to arrest us for receiving
stolen property.
384
00:21:26,882 --> 00:21:29,851
Turns out Herby had bought
the tickets in the lobby
385
00:21:29,885 --> 00:21:31,956
of the building from some guy
386
00:21:31,991 --> 00:21:34,856
probably for 25 cents
on the dollar
387
00:21:34,890 --> 00:21:36,927
and they were hotter
than a two-dollar pistol.
388
00:21:36,961 --> 00:21:40,448
So we spent the day in jail.
389
00:21:42,829 --> 00:21:45,798
She fired Herbie
and asked me to fill in.
390
00:21:45,832 --> 00:21:50,112
♪ I don't want
Your lonely mansion ♪
391
00:21:50,147 --> 00:21:51,942
I was walking through
the Troubadour one night
392
00:21:51,976 --> 00:21:53,806
on my way to the bathroom.
393
00:21:55,394 --> 00:21:58,397
This band Shiloh got up
and did my exact version
394
00:21:58,431 --> 00:22:00,157
of Silver Threads
and Golden Needles.
395
00:22:00,191 --> 00:22:03,678
♪ Silver Threads
And Golden Needles ♪
396
00:22:03,712 --> 00:22:04,886
I just went, "What?"
397
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,991
Does, you know, that solo,
I thought, God!
398
00:22:07,026 --> 00:22:09,028
I was appalled that anyone
would actually sit down
399
00:22:09,062 --> 00:22:12,963
with one of my records
and learn the solo off it
400
00:22:12,997 --> 00:22:15,206
like a Led Zeppelin record.
401
00:22:15,241 --> 00:22:17,864
And I heard the drummer and I
thought he was really good.
402
00:22:17,899 --> 00:22:20,419
The drummer was
a guy named Don Henley.
403
00:22:20,798 --> 00:22:24,077
Linda's first solo album
came out in '69
404
00:22:24,112 --> 00:22:27,598
and I moved to LA
in June of 1970.
405
00:22:28,116 --> 00:22:30,739
So my timing was pretty good.
406
00:22:31,015 --> 00:22:33,086
She'd had a bunch
of dates back East
407
00:22:33,121 --> 00:22:35,434
and we needed to put
the band together quickly.
408
00:22:35,468 --> 00:22:38,368
So I hired him for $250 a week.
409
00:22:45,582 --> 00:22:47,411
♪ Rescue me ♪
410
00:22:47,446 --> 00:22:49,033
♪ I want you in my arms ♪
411
00:22:49,068 --> 00:22:50,932
♪ Rescue me ♪
412
00:22:50,966 --> 00:22:52,796
♪ I need your tender charm ♪
413
00:22:52,830 --> 00:22:54,660
♪ 'Cause I'm lonely ♪
414
00:22:54,694 --> 00:22:56,800
I knew who she was
because I had her album.
415
00:22:57,214 --> 00:22:59,665
I listened to that
album a hundred times.
416
00:23:01,149 --> 00:23:04,670
She could seem vulnerable
and very feminine
417
00:23:04,704 --> 00:23:08,743
but when she opened her mouth to
sing everything got different.
418
00:23:08,777 --> 00:23:11,021
It was just incredible.
419
00:23:12,022 --> 00:23:15,232
You knew that there was
a very solid core
420
00:23:15,266 --> 00:23:17,234
and a very determined woman.
421
00:23:27,969 --> 00:23:29,902
Just saw her walking
past me in the Troubadour
422
00:23:29,936 --> 00:23:31,006
and she looked so cute.
423
00:23:31,041 --> 00:23:32,491
I just grabbed her by the hand
424
00:23:32,525 --> 00:23:34,424
and I said I think you should
cook me dinner.
425
00:23:35,252 --> 00:23:37,737
And she said okay and
gave me her phone number.
426
00:23:38,082 --> 00:23:40,257
So I called her a couple days
427
00:23:40,291 --> 00:23:41,948
and I said, "Well, you gonna
cook me dinner?"
428
00:23:41,983 --> 00:23:43,881
She goes, "Sure,
come on over. " I came on over
429
00:23:43,916 --> 00:23:46,574
and she made me a peanut
butter and jelly sandwich.
430
00:23:47,506 --> 00:23:49,542
And I fell in love with her.
431
00:23:49,577 --> 00:23:51,579
Took her home and the next day
I said,
432
00:23:51,613 --> 00:23:52,925
"Listen, let's go
get your stuff.
433
00:23:52,959 --> 00:23:54,271
You can live here with me. "
434
00:23:54,305 --> 00:23:57,619
♪ I got a feeling called
The blues, oh Lord ♪
435
00:23:57,654 --> 00:24:00,277
♪ Since my baby
Said goodbye ♪
436
00:24:00,311 --> 00:24:02,935
John David Souther
and Linda Ronstadt.
437
00:24:02,969 --> 00:24:04,177
They were a hot couple.
438
00:24:04,212 --> 00:24:07,111
♪ All I do is sit and cry
Oh Lord ♪
439
00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:10,252
♪ That last long day
he said goodbye ♪
440
00:24:10,287 --> 00:24:13,635
JD had had a musical duo
with a guy named Glenn Frey.
441
00:24:16,776 --> 00:24:19,883
He was by best friend
and first songwriting partner.
442
00:24:21,678 --> 00:24:24,266
We really did nothing but just
listen to music and play guitars
443
00:24:24,301 --> 00:24:27,615
and try to write songs and
then go to the Troubadour.
444
00:24:29,306 --> 00:24:31,688
Glenn Frey played
pretty good guitar.
445
00:24:31,998 --> 00:24:33,517
So I went and talked to Glenn
and said,
446
00:24:33,552 --> 00:24:35,277
"Do you want to do this
tour with me?"
447
00:24:35,312 --> 00:24:37,141
He said it would be really cool.
448
00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:39,558
He'd never been
on the road before.
449
00:24:40,593 --> 00:24:43,216
Glenn Frey and I shared
the $12 hotel room
450
00:24:43,251 --> 00:24:45,115
with two twin beds in it.
451
00:24:45,356 --> 00:24:47,048
It was a very modest tour.
452
00:24:47,082 --> 00:24:49,050
I mean, I remember
being in station wagons.
453
00:24:51,811 --> 00:24:54,193
Rooming together, Don
and Glenn each discovered
454
00:24:54,227 --> 00:24:56,782
that the other was a good singer
and songwriter.
455
00:24:58,197 --> 00:25:01,959
And that's when they decided to get together and form a band.
456
00:25:02,339 --> 00:25:04,617
That band became the Eagles.
457
00:25:07,344 --> 00:25:08,828
They wished us well.
458
00:25:08,863 --> 00:25:12,211
John was very supportive,
Linda was supportive
459
00:25:12,245 --> 00:25:14,869
and they basically said
just go for it.
460
00:25:17,837 --> 00:25:20,012
We didn't have much
success with Desperado.
461
00:25:20,046 --> 00:25:23,084
The record company didn't
know what to do with it.
462
00:25:23,118 --> 00:25:25,535
And then Linda
made it into a classic.
463
00:25:26,087 --> 00:25:29,573
♪ Desperado ♪
464
00:25:30,125 --> 00:25:34,992
♪ Why don't you come
To your senses ♪
465
00:25:35,027 --> 00:25:39,341
♪ Come down
From your fences ♪
466
00:25:39,376 --> 00:25:43,138
♪ And open the gate ♪
467
00:25:43,173 --> 00:25:45,555
♪ It may be raining ♪
468
00:25:46,763 --> 00:25:50,905
♪ But there's a rainbow
Above you ♪
469
00:25:51,284 --> 00:25:55,703
♪ You better let somebody
Love you ♪
470
00:25:59,983 --> 00:26:05,022
♪ Let somebody love you ♪
471
00:26:06,437 --> 00:26:11,097
♪ Before it is too ♪
472
00:26:12,892 --> 00:26:16,206
♪ Late ♪
473
00:26:42,301 --> 00:26:44,061
I knew the Neil Young
tour was coming
474
00:26:44,096 --> 00:26:46,236
and I thought this'll be
perfect for Linda
475
00:26:46,270 --> 00:26:50,136
because she had sung backup on
his big hit "Heart of Gold. "
476
00:26:50,171 --> 00:26:53,105
So I called Neil's manager
and I said,
477
00:26:53,139 --> 00:26:55,797
"Listen, Linda's the right
opening act for this.
478
00:26:55,832 --> 00:26:57,143
You've got to help me out. "
479
00:26:57,178 --> 00:26:59,387
And they said, "Well,
Neil's gonna go out alone. "
480
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,804
♪ I want to live ♪
481
00:27:03,115 --> 00:27:05,669
♪ I want to give ♪
482
00:27:05,704 --> 00:27:09,052
Lo and behold like a week later he called me and he said,
483
00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:11,088
"Neil's done a few dates
in Canada
484
00:27:11,123 --> 00:27:13,056
and it's getting him too tired.
485
00:27:13,090 --> 00:27:15,368
He now wants an
opening act and you're it.
486
00:27:15,403 --> 00:27:17,888
♪ I never give... ♪
487
00:27:19,027 --> 00:27:21,029
Linda was quite reluctant
at the time.
488
00:27:21,064 --> 00:27:23,998
She was so worried about the
idea of playing a huge
489
00:27:24,032 --> 00:27:27,139
hockey arena tour at that
point in her career.
490
00:27:27,173 --> 00:27:30,383
But we persuaded her that
this would be a good thing.
491
00:27:33,835 --> 00:27:35,112
Thank you!
492
00:27:35,975 --> 00:27:39,289
You would occasionally get somebody:
"We want Neil!"
493
00:27:39,323 --> 00:27:43,465
But by the time the tour got
going, she was holding her own.
494
00:27:43,811 --> 00:27:46,986
♪ I've been cheated ♪
495
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,714
♪ Been mistreated ♪
496
00:27:51,163 --> 00:27:56,340
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
497
00:27:58,515 --> 00:28:01,691
♪ I've been put down ♪
498
00:28:02,174 --> 00:28:05,315
♪ I've been pushed 'round ♪
499
00:28:05,902 --> 00:28:11,010
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
500
00:28:13,357 --> 00:28:16,188
♪ When I find a new man ♪
501
00:28:16,947 --> 00:28:19,467
♪ That I want for mine ♪
502
00:28:20,468 --> 00:28:23,954
♪ Always breaks my heart
In two ♪
503
00:28:23,989 --> 00:28:28,959
♪ It happens every time ♪
504
00:28:30,064 --> 00:28:31,893
♪ I've been... ♪
505
00:28:31,928 --> 00:28:35,172
Here's Linda
who I'd never seen live before,
506
00:28:35,207 --> 00:28:38,762
big stage, sold out, huge place.
507
00:28:38,969 --> 00:28:43,215
She comes out there and starts
singing and that voice filled
508
00:28:43,249 --> 00:28:46,805
this arena where I had seen
concerts for a long time.
509
00:28:46,839 --> 00:28:49,462
Nobody filled this arena with
a voice like Linda Ronstadt.
510
00:28:49,497 --> 00:28:51,810
And she just killed it.
511
00:28:51,844 --> 00:28:56,159
She slaughtered this crowd
who didn't come to see her
512
00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:58,264
but they sure left
knowing who she was.
513
00:29:00,922 --> 00:29:03,787
We did 78 dates in 90 days.
514
00:29:04,063 --> 00:29:07,480
We played before 18,000 to
20,000 people every night.
515
00:29:11,036 --> 00:29:13,866
We got to Houston and there was this new girl singer.
516
00:29:13,901 --> 00:29:15,178
Her name's Emmylou.
517
00:29:16,593 --> 00:29:20,114
It was 1973 during the one tour I did with Gram.
518
00:29:20,597 --> 00:29:24,497
♪ Call happy calling
Children are calling ♪
519
00:29:24,532 --> 00:29:28,191
♪ In line to ride
On the merry-go-round ♪
520
00:29:28,225 --> 00:29:29,986
Emmy started singing
and three notes
521
00:29:30,020 --> 00:29:31,953
the entire place was dead quiet.
522
00:29:31,988 --> 00:29:34,438
It was like they had started
mass or something.
523
00:29:35,508 --> 00:29:37,579
And she was beautiful,
this girl with the long hair
524
00:29:37,614 --> 00:29:39,374
and big brown eyes
and I thought
525
00:29:39,409 --> 00:29:41,998
she's doing exactly
what I'm doing.
526
00:29:42,032 --> 00:29:43,447
She's doing it better.
527
00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:46,002
♪ Do not worry
How it's done... ♪
528
00:29:46,036 --> 00:29:48,487
And for a minute I thought
well I can get jealous
529
00:29:48,521 --> 00:29:50,903
and then I won't be able
to enjoy her singing.
530
00:29:51,214 --> 00:29:53,216
Or I can just become
a slobbering, drooling fan
531
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:55,287
like the rest of the people
in the club.
532
00:29:55,321 --> 00:29:58,014
And hope that maybe I
could get her to sing with me.
533
00:29:58,048 --> 00:30:01,258
So I chose the latter as one of
the best decisions I ever made.
534
00:30:01,293 --> 00:30:04,986
And Emmy and I became immediate
music and social friends.
535
00:30:07,437 --> 00:30:12,338
Linda had a lot to do
with lifting me up
536
00:30:12,373 --> 00:30:14,927
at a very, very low
time in my life.
537
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,967
I had been kind of my way
working with Gram Parsons.
538
00:30:20,001 --> 00:30:22,245
I thought I'd found my voice,
539
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:25,144
I had found something I love
to do singing with him.
540
00:30:25,179 --> 00:30:27,250
♪ Love hurts ♪
541
00:30:28,458 --> 00:30:31,150
♪ Love scars ♪
542
00:30:32,255 --> 00:30:34,084
On the road to getting
himself straight
543
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,674
he was drinking a lot less,
he was loving the work,
544
00:30:37,708 --> 00:30:41,195
we loved singing together, we
had a record we'd just made,
545
00:30:41,229 --> 00:30:45,475
and apparently someone showed up
with heroin
546
00:30:45,509 --> 00:30:50,169
which he hadn't done
in a while and it killed him.
547
00:30:51,067 --> 00:30:54,380
It was devastating
to lose him like that.
548
00:30:55,968 --> 00:31:00,076
It was Linda who stepped up
as a friend
549
00:31:00,110 --> 00:31:02,181
and we had just met each other.
550
00:31:02,216 --> 00:31:06,565
She brought me out to LA,
had me stay at her house
551
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:08,739
and she talked about me
to everybody.
552
00:31:08,774 --> 00:31:13,020
Said how great I was and
genuinely loved my singing.
553
00:31:13,054 --> 00:31:17,645
Genuinely made me feel like
I had something to offer
554
00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:21,407
at a very low time in my life.
555
00:31:22,408 --> 00:31:24,548
♪ Love hurts ♪
556
00:31:26,654 --> 00:31:28,690
♪ Save me ♪
557
00:31:29,484 --> 00:31:32,315
♪ Free me ♪
558
00:31:32,349 --> 00:31:35,318
♪ From love ♪
559
00:31:35,663 --> 00:31:37,941
♪ This time ♪
560
00:31:40,047 --> 00:31:44,223
♪ Well the train's gone ♪
561
00:31:44,603 --> 00:31:47,778
♪ Down the track ♪
562
00:31:47,813 --> 00:31:53,646
♪ and I'm
I'm left behind ♪
563
00:31:56,201 --> 00:31:59,756
Linda was always
very tight with her girlfriends.
564
00:31:59,790 --> 00:32:02,207
They sang together, they
shared music together, she was
565
00:32:02,241 --> 00:32:04,140
supportive of me.
566
00:32:04,416 --> 00:32:09,145
I was writing songs and hoping
to make my own record
567
00:32:09,179 --> 00:32:12,596
but of course Linda was
really coming into her own
568
00:32:12,631 --> 00:32:15,254
and starting to be
really successful.
569
00:32:17,222 --> 00:32:19,431
I think a songwriter
doing their songs is different
570
00:32:19,465 --> 00:32:21,640
than a singer do their songs.
571
00:32:21,674 --> 00:32:24,367
Some people prefer the
songwriter doing them, some
572
00:32:24,401 --> 00:32:27,163
people prefer Linda doing them.
573
00:32:27,404 --> 00:32:28,785
But "Lose Again"
she definitely made
574
00:32:28,819 --> 00:32:30,683
into a bigger song.
575
00:32:32,409 --> 00:32:35,343
♪ But nothing can save me ♪
576
00:32:35,378 --> 00:32:37,449
♪ From this
b=Ball and chain ♪
577
00:32:37,483 --> 00:32:38,968
Because I couldn't
sing it like that.
578
00:32:39,002 --> 00:32:40,314
♪ I made up my mind ♪
579
00:32:41,660 --> 00:32:46,182
♪ I would leave today ♪
580
00:32:47,079 --> 00:32:50,600
I mean Linda came out and turned
it into this power ballad.
581
00:32:51,049 --> 00:32:53,327
♪ I know it's insane ♪
582
00:32:53,568 --> 00:32:55,777
♪ Because I love you ♪
583
00:32:55,812 --> 00:33:00,196
♪ And lose again ♪
584
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,096
♪ Oh, I love you ♪
585
00:33:04,131 --> 00:33:09,136
♪ And lose again ♪
586
00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:19,801
Back then there wasn't
competition with women.
587
00:33:19,836 --> 00:33:21,527
So I think, you know, women,
588
00:33:21,562 --> 00:33:23,219
there weren't that
many of us either.
589
00:33:23,253 --> 00:33:26,463
So I think there was a certain
amount of banding together
590
00:33:26,498 --> 00:33:29,087
to sort of share
our woman part of it.
591
00:33:29,121 --> 00:33:31,020
This is a song
off our new album.
592
00:33:32,538 --> 00:33:35,265
It's about a real special
place called home.
593
00:33:36,404 --> 00:33:38,337
That's a Karla Bonoff song.
594
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:42,479
I had made a demo of Home and we sent it off to Bonnie,
595
00:33:42,514 --> 00:33:45,758
just a complete long shot,
and she decided to record it.
596
00:33:46,104 --> 00:33:48,485
♪ Traveling at night ♪
597
00:33:49,383 --> 00:33:51,868
♪ The headlights
Were bright ♪
598
00:33:51,902 --> 00:33:55,837
♪ And soon the sun came
through the trees ♪
599
00:33:57,874 --> 00:34:00,808
♪ Around the next bend ♪
600
00:34:00,842 --> 00:34:03,845
♪ The flowers will send ♪
601
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:08,367
♪ The sweet smell of home
In the breeze ♪
602
00:34:08,402 --> 00:34:11,370
Linda and I are like
sisters, around the same age
603
00:34:11,405 --> 00:34:13,372
and we were coming up
and had the same mutual
604
00:34:13,407 --> 00:34:15,271
other musician friends
and band members
605
00:34:15,305 --> 00:34:18,826
and, you know,
it was a community of artists,
606
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:22,519
it wasn't sexually divided
between just the women and men.
607
00:34:22,554 --> 00:34:24,349
We weren't thinking
in terms of that.
608
00:34:25,419 --> 00:34:28,629
Linda and Bonnie Raitt
were two of the first women
609
00:34:28,663 --> 00:34:31,701
that I was able to see
as a young journalist
610
00:34:31,735 --> 00:34:34,704
and study the way they operated
in this community.
611
00:34:35,256 --> 00:34:37,534
We're going to move into this
world where we're running bands
612
00:34:37,569 --> 00:34:40,848
with guys in them but we can
also look after each other.
613
00:34:41,883 --> 00:34:45,197
I said if I can have it
on my terms and you understand
614
00:34:45,232 --> 00:34:49,201
I'm not going to be told how to
dress or what music to make.
615
00:34:49,236 --> 00:34:50,478
Great!
616
00:34:50,513 --> 00:34:53,378
We were all throwing away all
those conventions, you know.
617
00:34:55,345 --> 00:34:58,210
The rock and roll culture
is so male dominated and it also seems
618
00:34:58,245 --> 00:35:01,627
to be dominated by sort of
hostility against women.
619
00:35:01,662 --> 00:35:03,629
That this sort of...
620
00:35:05,390 --> 00:35:10,533
sort of sexual identity that is
sort of used as a weapon
621
00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:12,707
against the populace
and women in particular
622
00:35:12,742 --> 00:35:14,675
and then everyone
identifies with it.
623
00:35:14,916 --> 00:35:17,781
And it's sort of sad to me
because what happens is that...
624
00:35:19,576 --> 00:35:24,202
is that rock and roll stars
end up isolating themselves
625
00:35:24,236 --> 00:35:26,894
more and more and more, thereby
increasing their own feelings of
626
00:35:26,928 --> 00:35:30,518
alienation and anxiety and they
wonder why they're so miserable.
627
00:35:30,553 --> 00:35:34,281
That's really when they turn to
drugs and destroy themselves.
628
00:35:34,315 --> 00:35:36,800
It's just very silly.
It just seems very silly.
629
00:35:36,835 --> 00:35:43,290
They lose the ability to focus
on themselves as a person
630
00:35:43,324 --> 00:35:47,673
rather than as an image and
that's very dangerous I think.
631
00:35:47,708 --> 00:35:50,504
And there are always a lot
of people around them,
632
00:35:50,538 --> 00:35:55,267
managers and scene makers,
you know, groupies and whatever,
633
00:35:55,302 --> 00:35:58,236
that are willing to indulge
them in anything they want.
634
00:35:58,270 --> 00:36:01,894
It weakens them,
it weakens them as people
635
00:36:01,929 --> 00:36:04,173
and it eventually weakens
them as musicians.
636
00:36:07,590 --> 00:36:09,833
♪ I been warped
By the rain ♪
637
00:36:09,868 --> 00:36:11,490
♪ Driven by the snow ♪
638
00:36:11,525 --> 00:36:13,492
♪ I'm drunk and dirty ♪
639
00:36:13,527 --> 00:36:14,804
♪ Don't you know ♪
640
00:36:14,838 --> 00:36:16,633
♪ But I'm still ♪
641
00:36:18,566 --> 00:36:20,258
♪ Willin' ♪
642
00:36:22,329 --> 00:36:25,435
♪ Out on the road
Late last night ♪
643
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,508
♪ I'd see my pretty Alice
in every headlight ♪
644
00:36:29,543 --> 00:36:31,303
♪ Alice ♪
645
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,375
♪ Dallas Alice ♪
646
00:36:34,996 --> 00:36:38,966
♪ And I've been from Tucson
to Tucumcari ♪
647
00:36:39,725 --> 00:36:42,832
♪ Tehachapi to Tonopah ♪
648
00:36:42,866 --> 00:36:47,526
♪ Driven every kind of rig
that's ever been made ♪
649
00:36:47,871 --> 00:36:50,667
I was in New York
and somebody said
650
00:36:50,702 --> 00:36:52,842
you have to go see this girl,
she's amazing.
651
00:36:52,876 --> 00:36:55,258
She's one of the best singers
you'll ever hear,
652
00:36:55,293 --> 00:36:56,673
she's brilliant.
653
00:36:57,364 --> 00:37:00,298
She's incredibly great looking,
she sings barefoot
654
00:37:00,332 --> 00:37:03,749
and will knock you out in every
respect and she did.
655
00:37:04,405 --> 00:37:10,480
♪ Whites and wine ♪
656
00:37:11,516 --> 00:37:14,519
♪ And you show me a sign ♪
657
00:37:15,036 --> 00:37:16,762
♪ And I'll be willin' ♪
658
00:37:16,797 --> 00:37:19,317
I was running
the Beatles record label Apple.
659
00:37:19,351 --> 00:37:21,871
When Apple started to fall apart
and the Beatles were breaking up
660
00:37:21,905 --> 00:37:24,977
and all of that
I went to America
661
00:37:25,012 --> 00:37:26,876
and there I was being a manager.
662
00:37:28,118 --> 00:37:30,845
I wanted to go back
to work as a record producer
663
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,296
so I suggested Linda go
and meet with Peter
664
00:37:33,331 --> 00:37:36,057
which we did and he agreed
to manage her.
665
00:37:37,887 --> 00:37:39,337
There was a high bar there.
666
00:37:39,371 --> 00:37:40,890
Peter Asher had hung
around with the Beatles.
667
00:37:40,924 --> 00:37:44,307
He expected to make records
that are huge successes
668
00:37:44,342 --> 00:37:46,551
and he was poised to do that
with Linda
669
00:37:46,585 --> 00:37:48,898
and Geffen was ready to be
their record company
670
00:37:48,932 --> 00:37:50,658
that would be there.
671
00:37:53,627 --> 00:37:56,112
I started Asylum Records and signed Jackson Browne
672
00:37:56,146 --> 00:37:59,943
and then signing other artists
and it turned into what it did.
673
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,052
And I knew when I saw Linda
and the Stone Poneys
674
00:38:05,086 --> 00:38:07,019
that she was gonna make it
and she was gonna make it
675
00:38:07,054 --> 00:38:10,851
as a solo artist and I knew she
was going to be a big star.
676
00:38:11,714 --> 00:38:13,302
She didn't think so.
677
00:38:14,095 --> 00:38:16,546
She had very little
confidence in those days.
678
00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:20,654
Linda was feeling like
she wasn't good enough
679
00:38:20,688 --> 00:38:22,380
to be on Asylum Records.
680
00:38:23,898 --> 00:38:26,798
I said to her that
that was crazy.
681
00:38:28,178 --> 00:38:30,560
I'm never really
satisfied with what I do.
682
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:32,976
And lots of times I hear
that I did something wrong
683
00:38:33,011 --> 00:38:35,531
and it bothers me,
it can ruin my day really.
684
00:38:35,841 --> 00:38:39,017
Linda never thought she
was as good as she was
685
00:38:39,051 --> 00:38:41,744
and that is an interesting
paradox
686
00:38:41,778 --> 00:38:43,953
because she's confident
about her ideas
687
00:38:43,987 --> 00:38:46,783
but not about herself
and not about her singing.
688
00:38:48,578 --> 00:38:51,823
My involvement as a producer
with Linda came when she was
689
00:38:51,857 --> 00:38:55,482
having trouble finishing the
album that became Don't Cry Now.
690
00:38:56,034 --> 00:38:59,037
And that's when we decided that
the next album I would produce
691
00:38:59,071 --> 00:39:00,521
was Heart Like a Wheel.
692
00:39:00,556 --> 00:39:05,526
♪ Some say a heart
Is just like a wheel ♪
693
00:39:05,561 --> 00:39:07,666
♪ When you bend it ♪
694
00:39:07,701 --> 00:39:09,185
♪ You can't mend it ♪
695
00:39:09,219 --> 00:39:12,740
The McGarrigle Sisters,
who were these two Canadian sisters,
696
00:39:12,775 --> 00:39:14,052
they were in an odd category.
697
00:39:14,086 --> 00:39:17,020
They didn't fit in pop music,
they didn't fit in folk music,
698
00:39:17,055 --> 00:39:19,989
they didn't fit anywhere
except they fit in my heart.
699
00:39:20,023 --> 00:39:21,404
We just heard
Heart Like A Wheel,
700
00:39:21,439 --> 00:39:23,061
then I went I have to sing it.
701
00:39:24,131 --> 00:39:27,686
♪ When harm is done ♪
702
00:39:27,893 --> 00:39:31,138
♪ No love can be won ♪
703
00:39:31,172 --> 00:39:34,693
♪ I know it happens ♪
704
00:39:34,728 --> 00:39:37,834
♪ Frequently ♪
705
00:39:39,042 --> 00:39:41,079
♪ But I can't... ♪
706
00:39:41,113 --> 00:39:45,566
Linda has the ability
to hear a song and claim it.
707
00:39:45,773 --> 00:39:47,775
You claim it as your own
as a singer.
708
00:39:47,810 --> 00:39:50,744
If you love it like that
you get inside it.
709
00:39:50,778 --> 00:39:52,090
You become it.
710
00:39:52,504 --> 00:39:59,684
♪ But my love for you
Is like a sinking ship ♪
711
00:40:00,132 --> 00:40:08,140
♪ And my heart is on that ship
out in mid-ocean ♪
712
00:40:11,937 --> 00:40:13,801
Heart Like a Wheel,
she discovered that song,
713
00:40:13,836 --> 00:40:15,182
brought it to me and I loved it.
714
00:40:15,216 --> 00:40:17,771
I thought it was beautiful
but I was also thinking
715
00:40:17,805 --> 00:40:19,497
in terms of we should
make some hits.
716
00:40:19,531 --> 00:40:21,050
♪ Feelin' better ♪
717
00:40:21,084 --> 00:40:23,501
♪ Now that we're through ♪
718
00:40:23,535 --> 00:40:25,675
♪ Feelin' better ♪
719
00:40:25,710 --> 00:40:27,539
♪ 'Cause I'm over you ♪
720
00:40:27,574 --> 00:40:29,230
I'm a ballad singer,
I like to sing ballads best
721
00:40:29,265 --> 00:40:32,061
but we needed some up-tempo
songs for the record
722
00:40:32,095 --> 00:40:33,925
and as an afterthought
I had this song
723
00:40:33,959 --> 00:40:36,583
that we'd used
to close the show.
724
00:40:36,617 --> 00:40:38,239
♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
725
00:40:38,274 --> 00:40:42,071
♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
726
00:40:42,899 --> 00:40:44,867
♪ I'm gonna say it again ♪
727
00:40:44,901 --> 00:40:47,041
♪ You're no good
You're no good ♪
728
00:40:47,076 --> 00:40:51,149
♪ You're no good
Baby, you're no good ♪
729
00:40:51,770 --> 00:40:54,014
She knew and loved the song,
I knew and loved the song,
730
00:40:54,048 --> 00:40:57,155
and we decided to do
a version of that song.
731
00:40:59,882 --> 00:41:04,093
I stayed up all night assembling
this very complicated,
732
00:41:04,127 --> 00:41:07,165
intricate layered guitar piece.
733
00:41:07,683 --> 00:41:10,996
We worked very long into
like the next afternoon.
734
00:41:11,549 --> 00:41:13,930
And that's when Linda turned up
and didn't like it.
735
00:41:15,622 --> 00:41:18,176
She said, "Oh, I don't like it.
It sounds like the Beatles,"
736
00:41:18,210 --> 00:41:19,695
which it did sound
like the Beatles
737
00:41:19,729 --> 00:41:21,317
but in the end she came around
and said,
738
00:41:21,351 --> 00:41:23,664
"You know what, I was wrong.
It's great. "
739
00:41:35,676 --> 00:41:40,232
♪ I'm tellin' you now baby
And I'm going my way ♪
740
00:41:40,681 --> 00:41:45,755
♪ Forget about you, baby
'Cause I'm leaving to stay ♪
741
00:41:45,790 --> 00:41:47,239
Every song
that I sing has a face
742
00:41:47,274 --> 00:41:49,138
that I sing it to, you know.
743
00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:53,763
And so when something
happens to me,
744
00:41:53,798 --> 00:41:55,627
it's really funny,
I know so many songs.
745
00:41:55,662 --> 00:41:57,146
When something happens to me
746
00:41:57,180 --> 00:41:58,941
the song will occur
at the same time.
747
00:41:58,975 --> 00:42:00,667
I'll think oh, this song
or that song, you know.
748
00:42:00,701 --> 00:42:02,945
And if it's a song I can sing
then I'll have to sing it,
749
00:42:02,979 --> 00:42:05,913
I'll just burn to sing it.
I can't not sing it.
750
00:42:05,948 --> 00:42:09,883
♪ I passed you on the street ♪
751
00:42:10,262 --> 00:42:14,370
♪ And my heart
Fell at your feet ♪
752
00:42:14,404 --> 00:42:16,717
♪ I can't help it ♪
753
00:42:16,752 --> 00:42:21,342
♪ If I'm still
In love with you ♪
754
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:25,208
He would make the assumption
that I was choosing the songs
755
00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:27,694
that we would do on these
records or that I was working
756
00:42:27,728 --> 00:42:30,041
out the arrangements
or this, that, and the other.
757
00:42:30,075 --> 00:42:31,870
And I would have to keep
explaining that
758
00:42:31,905 --> 00:42:34,597
it was Linda and me
in that order.
759
00:42:35,253 --> 00:42:38,946
♪ Still in love with you ♪
760
00:42:40,154 --> 00:42:42,743
My sister used to play
all these Hank Williams records.
761
00:42:42,778 --> 00:42:45,194
So I thought I can do that.
762
00:42:45,228 --> 00:42:48,335
♪ Came slowly stealing ♪
763
00:42:50,061 --> 00:42:52,926
♪ As I brushed your arm ♪
764
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,792
♪ And stood
So close to you... ♪
765
00:42:56,826 --> 00:42:58,863
Linda knew a good song
766
00:42:58,897 --> 00:43:00,658
and she knew why it was good
and better than that
767
00:43:00,692 --> 00:43:02,729
she knew how to sing it
better than you can sing.
768
00:43:02,763 --> 00:43:07,216
When you become that sharp
of a song stylist,
769
00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:10,184
you get authorship
in a certain way.
770
00:43:10,219 --> 00:43:12,773
I consider her a real author.
771
00:43:12,808 --> 00:43:16,328
She didn't write songs
but she made songs happen
772
00:43:16,363 --> 00:43:17,709
the way she wanted to hear them.
773
00:43:17,744 --> 00:43:23,059
♪ I can't help it if
I'm still in love with you ♪
774
00:43:23,681 --> 00:43:25,752
I Can't Help it
if I'm Still in Love With You
775
00:43:25,786 --> 00:43:27,650
was a hit on the country charts.
776
00:43:28,099 --> 00:43:31,412
You're No Good was a hit on both
the R&B chart and the pop chart.
777
00:43:32,275 --> 00:43:35,175
So I became the first artist to
have a hit on all three charts
778
00:43:35,209 --> 00:43:36,797
at the same time.
779
00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:44,909
Heart Like A Wheel was
a huge turning point for her.
780
00:43:45,772 --> 00:43:50,811
The avalanche of success
was hitting everywhere.
781
00:43:51,053 --> 00:43:53,469
She was at the forefront
of a kind of pop stardom
782
00:43:53,503 --> 00:43:56,127
that hadn't happened
at that point
783
00:43:56,161 --> 00:44:00,683
but people didn't notice the
difficulty of being a woman,
784
00:44:00,718 --> 00:44:04,411
trailblazing and having
the success of a Mick Jagger.
785
00:44:13,247 --> 00:44:17,804
♪ People try to rape me
Always thinking I'm crazy ♪
786
00:44:17,838 --> 00:44:20,979
♪ Make me burn the candle
right down ♪
787
00:44:22,463 --> 00:44:24,293
♪ Baby ♪
788
00:44:24,845 --> 00:44:26,709
♪ I can't stay ♪
789
00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:30,195
♪ Don't need no jewels
In my crown ♪
790
00:44:31,024 --> 00:44:33,716
♪ 'Cause all you women ♪
791
00:44:33,751 --> 00:44:35,994
♪ Are low down gamblers ♪
792
00:44:36,029 --> 00:44:38,341
Now I had gigs
like in big sporting arenas,
793
00:44:38,376 --> 00:44:40,447
you know,
stadiums and stuff like that.
794
00:44:40,965 --> 00:44:43,208
I knew the name of every
arena in the country.
795
00:44:43,243 --> 00:44:45,245
We got a gig tonight
at the Spectrum in Philly.
796
00:44:45,279 --> 00:44:46,280
We'll be at the Forum.
797
00:44:46,315 --> 00:44:47,488
Gig tomorrow night
at the Garden.
798
00:44:47,523 --> 00:44:48,489
That's where we played.
799
00:44:48,524 --> 00:44:50,112
She was selling them all out.
800
00:44:50,146 --> 00:44:51,838
♪ This low down bitchin' ♪
801
00:44:51,872 --> 00:44:54,323
♪ Got my poor feet a itchin' ♪
802
00:44:54,357 --> 00:44:57,257
♪ Can you see
The deuce is still wild ♪
803
00:44:57,291 --> 00:44:58,776
She was very good.
804
00:44:58,810 --> 00:44:59,880
Audience loved her.
805
00:44:59,915 --> 00:45:00,847
Records sold.
806
00:45:00,881 --> 00:45:04,022
She was on an uphill swing
all the time.
807
00:45:04,057 --> 00:45:05,990
♪ Got to roll me ♪
808
00:45:06,024 --> 00:45:10,408
♪ Call me the tumblin' dice ♪
809
00:45:13,273 --> 00:45:14,964
When we did that tour together
810
00:45:14,999 --> 00:45:17,139
we'd take turns
closing and opening.
811
00:45:19,175 --> 00:45:22,316
You know. Try following
Linda Ronstadt every night.
812
00:45:22,351 --> 00:45:26,044
♪ Honey
Got no money ♪
813
00:45:26,596 --> 00:45:29,876
♪ Sixes and sevens and nines ♪
814
00:45:30,497 --> 00:45:34,294
♪ Hey now baby
I'm the rank outsider ♪
815
00:45:34,328 --> 00:45:36,365
I went to go see her
at the Universal Amphitheater
816
00:45:36,399 --> 00:45:38,332
when she was wearing
her Boy Scouts outfit
817
00:45:38,367 --> 00:45:39,955
and was just rocking.
818
00:45:40,541 --> 00:45:43,061
♪ Baby... ♪
819
00:45:43,096 --> 00:45:45,546
Linda was able to be
really feminine and sexy
820
00:45:45,581 --> 00:45:50,344
in this world of men and somehow
hold onto herself and do that
821
00:45:50,379 --> 00:45:53,244
and use that in the
best possible way.
822
00:46:04,876 --> 00:46:08,259
There was a lot of dudes running around the stages then.
823
00:46:08,293 --> 00:46:11,503
But we were on the road
with Linda and killing it.
824
00:46:11,538 --> 00:46:12,815
She was killing every night.
825
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:15,300
♪ The tumbling dice ♪
826
00:46:16,439 --> 00:46:18,303
♪ You got to roll me ♪
827
00:46:18,338 --> 00:46:20,374
I know they liked my singing
and I know they were proud
828
00:46:20,409 --> 00:46:22,894
of what they were doing
but still in rock and roll
829
00:46:22,929 --> 00:46:25,414
the idea that you're actually
working for a chick singer,
830
00:46:25,448 --> 00:46:28,037
in their way they sort of
saw it as not as cool
831
00:46:28,072 --> 00:46:29,556
as if they were their own
rock and roll band
832
00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:31,282
and they were just
all the guys.
833
00:46:33,111 --> 00:46:36,563
♪ Baby, baby
Got to roll me ♪
834
00:46:36,597 --> 00:46:38,634
There weren't a lot
of women musicians
835
00:46:38,668 --> 00:46:41,257
so it was always a band of guys.
836
00:46:41,292 --> 00:46:44,502
There weren't women bass players
and women guitar players
837
00:46:44,536 --> 00:46:48,264
and sometimes some of these
guys were, they were tough.
838
00:46:50,404 --> 00:46:52,441
I got a lot tougher
and more foul mouthed.
839
00:46:52,475 --> 00:46:53,442
I used to swear a lot.
840
00:46:53,476 --> 00:46:54,961
I mean, I used to talk
like a truck driver.
841
00:46:54,995 --> 00:46:57,618
When I think about the way
I used to talk, I'm shocked.
842
00:47:01,036 --> 00:47:03,486
Without having any other
girls along on the road,
843
00:47:03,521 --> 00:47:06,420
just automatically
you start to imitate them.
844
00:47:09,665 --> 00:47:13,117
Linda was never
comfortable being on the road
845
00:47:13,151 --> 00:47:18,156
but obviously she did her job
and part of her loved it.
846
00:47:18,191 --> 00:47:19,330
Who wouldn't love it?
847
00:47:19,364 --> 00:47:22,126
But I think there was another
part of her that went,
848
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,300
"You know,
this doesn't feel right. "
849
00:47:26,061 --> 00:47:27,476
If I were going to
choose something to do
850
00:47:27,510 --> 00:47:29,443
it would not be to stand up
in front of a lot of people.
851
00:47:29,478 --> 00:47:31,204
But I love to sing,
I love to sing.
852
00:47:31,238 --> 00:47:33,482
I love music so at some point
you do whatever you have to do
853
00:47:33,516 --> 00:47:35,242
to do music.
854
00:47:36,692 --> 00:47:39,522
She would confess to me that if she saw people in the front row
855
00:47:39,557 --> 00:47:43,147
and somebody leans over
and says something to the person
856
00:47:43,181 --> 00:47:46,529
next to them, she thought they
were saying, you know,
857
00:47:46,564 --> 00:47:48,635
she's the worst singer
I've ever heard.
858
00:47:48,669 --> 00:47:50,119
I don't like this.
859
00:47:50,395 --> 00:47:52,121
She really believed that.
860
00:47:53,502 --> 00:47:56,194
You get on the bus at
night, card game going on,
861
00:47:56,229 --> 00:47:58,196
everybody blasting music
862
00:47:58,231 --> 00:48:00,474
or everyone else drinking,
you know.
863
00:48:00,509 --> 00:48:02,338
A lot of drugs around.
864
00:48:03,063 --> 00:48:05,445
A lot of people would go on
stage completely hammered,
865
00:48:05,479 --> 00:48:07,240
completely fucking hammered.
866
00:48:07,274 --> 00:48:11,037
Everybody was up at night
and when the gig ended
867
00:48:11,071 --> 00:48:13,039
you don't go home and have milk.
868
00:48:14,557 --> 00:48:18,078
It was kind of the nighttime
danger fun part about
869
00:48:18,113 --> 00:48:19,700
not having to go to bed.
870
00:48:19,735 --> 00:48:21,702
You know, Keith Richards
can do it, so can I.
871
00:48:21,737 --> 00:48:24,464
Linda's thing was diet pills.
872
00:48:26,155 --> 00:48:28,364
She went through a phase
mostly taking speed
873
00:48:28,399 --> 00:48:31,057
and not eating and being
super skinny.
874
00:48:31,712 --> 00:48:35,061
It seemed like it was so hard to be out there day after day
875
00:48:35,095 --> 00:48:37,063
and to try to get up the energy
to sort of do that
876
00:48:37,097 --> 00:48:40,135
when you were just wrung out
877
00:48:40,169 --> 00:48:43,172
from the sense of being
dislocated from place.
878
00:48:45,209 --> 00:48:47,728
I was with a bunch of people
that were basically earnest
879
00:48:47,763 --> 00:48:49,247
and basically honest
880
00:48:49,282 --> 00:48:52,078
and the kind of paranoia
that was introduced by drugs
881
00:48:52,112 --> 00:48:54,080
was so destructive in our
ability to communicate
882
00:48:54,114 --> 00:48:54,977
with each other.
883
00:48:55,012 --> 00:48:57,117
That really saddened me.
884
00:48:57,152 --> 00:49:00,431
And then at some point
we all just stopped.
885
00:49:04,504 --> 00:49:06,437
♪ I feel so bad ♪
886
00:49:06,471 --> 00:49:09,750
♪ I got a worried mind ♪
887
00:49:10,682 --> 00:49:13,030
♪ I'm so lonesome ♪
888
00:49:13,064 --> 00:49:14,963
♪ All the time ♪
889
00:49:16,067 --> 00:49:20,451
♪ Since I left my
Baby behind ♪
890
00:49:20,485 --> 00:49:23,040
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
891
00:49:27,078 --> 00:49:31,255
♪ Saving nickels
Saving dimes ♪
892
00:49:32,359 --> 00:49:36,294
♪ Workin' 'til
The sun don't shine ♪
893
00:49:37,468 --> 00:49:41,575
♪ Looking forward
To happier times ♪
894
00:49:41,610 --> 00:49:44,302
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
895
00:49:46,442 --> 00:49:49,376
♪ I'm going back someday ♪
896
00:49:49,825 --> 00:49:51,792
♪ Come what may ♪
897
00:49:51,827 --> 00:49:55,520
♪ To Blue Bayou ♪
898
00:49:56,797 --> 00:49:59,662
♪ Where the folks are fine ♪
899
00:49:59,697 --> 00:50:02,665
♪ And the world is mine ♪
900
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,737
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
901
00:50:06,704 --> 00:50:10,156
When Rolling Stone was ready
to put Linda Ronstadt on the cover
902
00:50:10,190 --> 00:50:13,469
that was her absolute peak
up until then.
903
00:50:13,676 --> 00:50:17,301
♪ If I could only see ♪
904
00:50:17,335 --> 00:50:20,269
Generally it was a very
male-oriented
905
00:50:20,304 --> 00:50:22,685
denim-clad warrior cover.
906
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,413
So here comes Linda Ronstadt
907
00:50:26,448 --> 00:50:30,417
and she and Annie Leibovitz
put together this photo session
908
00:50:30,452 --> 00:50:32,626
that was like no other
cover that had been
909
00:50:32,661 --> 00:50:34,594
on Rolling Stone before.
910
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:38,563
She was honest
911
00:50:41,428 --> 00:50:43,568
and opened her heart.
912
00:50:44,431 --> 00:50:48,504
She said, "This gets lonely and
I don't know where it ends up.
913
00:50:48,746 --> 00:50:50,575
It's an emotional journey
914
00:50:50,610 --> 00:50:52,612
and I'm happy that I brought
this kind of joy.
915
00:50:52,646 --> 00:50:54,269
But you know what?
When I'm here alone
916
00:50:54,303 --> 00:50:58,135
in this Malibu home that looks
very cozy, it's lonely. "
917
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,724
There's a lot of show business people down here,
you know.
918
00:51:01,759 --> 00:51:03,692
It's not my style exactly.
919
00:51:03,726 --> 00:51:06,522
Where did you live before?
920
00:51:06,557 --> 00:51:09,456
Nowhere really. I was on the
road for about ten years
921
00:51:09,491 --> 00:51:12,494
and I didn't exactly have
a home.
922
00:51:12,942 --> 00:51:17,844
♪ On Blue Bayou ♪
923
00:51:32,721 --> 00:51:35,379
Singing the National
Anthem here at Dodger Stadium,
924
00:51:35,413 --> 00:51:37,381
Ms. Linda Ronstadt.
925
00:51:41,626 --> 00:51:44,215
♪ Oh, say can you see? ♪
926
00:51:44,250 --> 00:51:47,632
I remember my dad was watching her at the game.
927
00:51:47,667 --> 00:51:49,772
She sang the National Anthem.
928
00:51:50,290 --> 00:51:54,294
♪ What so proudly we hailed ♪
929
00:51:54,501 --> 00:51:56,158
♪ At the twilight's... ♪
930
00:51:56,193 --> 00:51:57,677
All of sudden there she is.
931
00:51:57,711 --> 00:52:00,576
She'd come in the limo straight
to the restaurant from the game
932
00:52:00,611 --> 00:52:02,268
to have something to eat.
933
00:52:03,407 --> 00:52:06,548
My parents had a small
restaurant on Melrose Avenue
934
00:52:06,582 --> 00:52:09,758
across the street from what
was then KHJ Radio
935
00:52:09,792 --> 00:52:12,174
which was the radio
station in the day.
936
00:52:12,795 --> 00:52:15,695
Linda walked in and my dad
was wearing a shirt
937
00:52:15,729 --> 00:52:18,525
that we call in Mexico Aloe Vera
938
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,942
and it has four pockets
and it's white and she said,
939
00:52:21,977 --> 00:52:23,323
"This is a good place
940
00:52:23,358 --> 00:52:25,498
because he's wearing
the shirt my dad wears.
941
00:52:26,361 --> 00:52:28,432
A lot of the people
who hung out at the Troubadour
942
00:52:28,466 --> 00:52:30,434
also ate at Lucy's.
943
00:52:31,262 --> 00:52:34,472
Lucy was very shall we say
loose with the check
944
00:52:34,507 --> 00:52:36,888
now and again
and if we were on hard times.
945
00:52:37,958 --> 00:52:41,341
Our customers were not
just soon-to-be celebrities
946
00:52:41,376 --> 00:52:44,689
of the industries, they were the
oligarch of Los Angeles.
947
00:52:44,724 --> 00:52:47,382
I mean, you're talking
old-school money.
948
00:52:48,797 --> 00:52:50,523
There was a big
communal table that my father
949
00:52:50,557 --> 00:52:51,662
used to sit everybody at.
950
00:52:51,696 --> 00:52:53,871
So you'd sit with policemen,
you'd sit with firemen,
951
00:52:53,905 --> 00:52:56,494
sometimes you'd sit with an
actor, sometimes you'd sit...
952
00:52:56,529 --> 00:52:59,325
a football player. You never
had any idea who you'd sit with.
953
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:02,431
What happened was Linda
had decided
954
00:53:02,466 --> 00:53:04,433
that she wanted to change
the 8-track
955
00:53:04,468 --> 00:53:05,710
because she wanted to hear
something else.
956
00:53:05,745 --> 00:53:09,300
So she had to step up
on this little wine rack
957
00:53:09,335 --> 00:53:12,441
and at that moment the Governor
Jerry Brown comes in
958
00:53:12,476 --> 00:53:16,480
that room and he sees her
and it was like wow!
959
00:53:16,514 --> 00:53:17,722
Who's she?
960
00:53:18,551 --> 00:53:21,899
So my father went
and he sat them together.
961
00:53:23,383 --> 00:53:24,936
And, well,
he fell in love with her.
962
00:53:24,971 --> 00:53:26,766
There was no question
about that.
963
00:53:27,836 --> 00:53:29,389
Jerry likes passionate music.
964
00:53:29,424 --> 00:53:31,460
He likes passionate music,
passionate women,
965
00:53:31,495 --> 00:53:32,841
that's his deal.
966
00:53:33,497 --> 00:53:35,464
We had a really
good time together.
967
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,297
He went out to run for president
for the last couple of months
968
00:53:40,331 --> 00:53:43,369
and he pending for the fact that
I got to see him on TV
969
00:53:43,403 --> 00:53:45,543
I may have forgot
what he looked like.
970
00:53:48,028 --> 00:53:49,582
But he came back yesterday.
971
00:53:49,616 --> 00:53:50,997
He's gonna make it
all better now.
972
00:53:54,449 --> 00:53:55,967
That's what he told me anyway.
973
00:53:56,002 --> 00:53:57,762
I have yet to see.
974
00:53:58,073 --> 00:54:01,594
♪ My boyfriend's back
And you're gonna be trouble ♪
975
00:54:01,628 --> 00:54:04,942
♪ Hey now, hey now
My boyfriend's back ♪
976
00:54:04,976 --> 00:54:06,392
♪ When you see him coming... ♪
977
00:54:06,426 --> 00:54:08,428
Did you have much of a problem when you're with Jerry Brown
978
00:54:08,463 --> 00:54:11,293
people expecting you
to have political views
979
00:54:11,328 --> 00:54:13,744
along the lines of
Governor Brown?
980
00:54:13,778 --> 00:54:16,402
Whereas you're a
singer, he's a politician.
981
00:54:16,436 --> 00:54:17,955
Our relationship
was completely personal,
982
00:54:17,989 --> 00:54:19,336
it wasn't political at all.
983
00:54:19,370 --> 00:54:21,545
So, you know, he did politics,
I did music.
984
00:54:21,579 --> 00:54:23,892
- Right.
- It's easy to separate that.
985
00:54:24,133 --> 00:54:26,343
You went to South Africa
recently.
986
00:54:26,377 --> 00:54:28,793
Did you receive criticism
for going there?
987
00:54:28,828 --> 00:54:30,968
As far as I was concerned
it was just a gig.
988
00:54:31,002 --> 00:54:33,039
I don't think that if you
disagree with the policies
989
00:54:33,073 --> 00:54:35,559
of the government, which I do
very definitely disagree
990
00:54:35,593 --> 00:54:37,630
with the policies of the
South African government,
991
00:54:37,664 --> 00:54:39,079
I don't think that's enough
of a reason not to go
992
00:54:39,114 --> 00:54:40,357
and play music there.
993
00:54:40,391 --> 00:54:43,049
If I did that I wouldn't be able
to play in the United State
994
00:54:43,083 --> 00:54:45,362
because I don't agree with their
policies about nuclear power,
995
00:54:45,396 --> 00:54:46,604
nuclear warfare.
996
00:54:46,639 --> 00:54:49,676
I mean, my God, we've got this
person running the country
997
00:54:49,711 --> 00:54:51,437
that I completely disagree with.
998
00:54:51,471 --> 00:54:53,922
If I decided that I wasn't
going to play where attitudes
999
00:54:53,956 --> 00:54:57,684
of racism prevailed, I certainly
couldn't play in Australia
1000
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,550
or England or lots of places
in the United States,
1001
00:55:01,585 --> 00:55:03,863
a lot of places in the American
South or Boston
1002
00:55:03,897 --> 00:55:05,554
which is extremely racist.
1003
00:55:05,589 --> 00:55:08,488
I went to South Africa, it has a
fascist repressive government.
1004
00:55:08,523 --> 00:55:10,041
I'm very interested in
the culture down there.
1005
00:55:10,076 --> 00:55:11,077
You just got finished talking.
1006
00:55:11,111 --> 00:55:13,390
You say why does anyone
think I'm controversial.
1007
00:55:13,424 --> 00:55:15,564
Do you realized what
you've just talked about here?
1008
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,842
We've just received all your
political views in one blow.
1009
00:55:17,877 --> 00:55:19,879
I'm teasing.
I'm not putting it down.
1010
00:55:19,913 --> 00:55:22,364
I don't think my political
views are very controversial.
1011
00:55:22,399 --> 00:55:24,435
Who likes nuclear warfare?
1012
00:55:24,470 --> 00:55:27,024
I remember her having the Wall
Street Journal in her bag
1013
00:55:27,058 --> 00:55:30,027
one time in the 70s when she was
dating Jerry and I went,
1014
00:55:30,061 --> 00:55:33,168
you know, I had thought she was
really smart but she's really
1015
00:55:33,202 --> 00:55:36,413
well read and very, very up
on a lot of different things.
1016
00:55:36,447 --> 00:55:41,072
She's as wide ranging in her
critical intellectual pursuits
1017
00:55:41,107 --> 00:55:44,593
as she is in her music pursuits
and you don't find that kind
1018
00:55:44,628 --> 00:55:47,976
of depth and eclecticism
in pop music.
1019
00:55:49,633 --> 00:55:54,396
Jerry needed somebody that could be full-time there for him.
1020
00:55:55,190 --> 00:55:57,675
You couldn't have two careers
in that family.
1021
00:55:57,710 --> 00:56:00,678
♪ I never will marry... ♪
1022
00:56:00,713 --> 00:56:01,990
There's not enough time.
1023
00:56:02,024 --> 00:56:05,027
♪ I'll be no man's wife ♪
1024
00:56:05,821 --> 00:56:08,824
♪ I tend to stay single ♪
1025
00:56:10,032 --> 00:56:13,035
♪ For my rest of my life ♪
1026
00:56:13,588 --> 00:56:16,107
I mean, the same
reason I never got married.
1027
00:56:16,901 --> 00:56:18,662
I don't know, I think
it's hard being a woman
1028
00:56:18,696 --> 00:56:20,042
in the music business.
1029
00:56:20,077 --> 00:56:23,529
You know,
it's a different kind of life.
1030
00:56:23,805 --> 00:56:26,048
♪ Rushing waters ♪
1031
00:56:26,739 --> 00:56:30,605
♪ Went over my head ♪
1032
00:56:30,639 --> 00:56:32,745
Well you don't need to
get married, you what I mean?
1033
00:56:32,779 --> 00:56:34,781
It's like we have our own income
1034
00:56:34,816 --> 00:56:37,991
and you don't have to have
the state verify
1035
00:56:38,026 --> 00:56:39,614
that you love somebody
1036
00:56:39,648 --> 00:56:41,616
and when that relationship's
over you leave.
1037
00:56:41,650 --> 00:56:43,480
Neither one of us are
really made for marriage
1038
00:56:43,514 --> 00:56:46,172
or I think long-term
relationships.
1039
00:56:46,897 --> 00:56:48,243
Why did you break up?
1040
00:56:48,277 --> 00:56:51,108
I can't remember.
Maybe she could tell you.
1041
00:56:51,142 --> 00:56:54,939
♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪
1042
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:59,047
♪ It's so easy to fall in love ♪
1043
00:56:59,875 --> 00:57:03,223
♪ People tell me
Love's for fools ♪
1044
00:57:03,776 --> 00:57:07,642
♪ But here I go
Breaking all the rules ♪
1045
00:57:07,676 --> 00:57:09,575
♪ Seems so easy... ♪
1046
00:57:09,609 --> 00:57:13,061
My mom wanted to be a scientist but she had four kids
1047
00:57:13,095 --> 00:57:16,236
and I think it was also a little
bit of a disappointment.
1048
00:57:16,271 --> 00:57:18,756
♪ It's so easy
To fall in love... ♪
1049
00:57:18,791 --> 00:57:21,621
She always said to me
go out and have a life.
1050
00:57:21,656 --> 00:57:24,486
You don't just have to get
married, there are alternatives.
1051
00:57:24,521 --> 00:57:28,041
♪ It's so easy
to fall in love ♪
1052
00:57:28,628 --> 00:57:32,080
♪ It's so easy
to fall in love ♪
1053
00:57:33,806 --> 00:57:36,912
I have to confess, I got a
really bad crush on this guy.
1054
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,916
We had a little romance for a
while but it wasn't long lived.
1055
00:57:40,951 --> 00:57:42,884
He dumped me for this pig.
1056
00:57:42,918 --> 00:57:45,231
Well, at least
I got his picture.
1057
00:57:47,785 --> 00:57:49,787
♪ Does he love me? ♪
1058
00:57:49,822 --> 00:57:51,962
♪ I want to know ♪
1059
00:57:51,996 --> 00:57:55,655
♪ How can I tell
if he loves me so? ♪
1060
00:57:55,690 --> 00:57:57,623
♪ Is it in his eyes? ♪
1061
00:57:57,657 --> 00:57:59,763
♪ Oh no, you make believe ♪
1062
00:57:59,797 --> 00:58:01,834
♪ Is it in his size ♪
1063
00:58:01,868 --> 00:58:03,939
♪ Oh no
You'll be deceived ♪
1064
00:58:03,974 --> 00:58:07,943
♪ If you want to know
if he loves you so ♪
1065
00:58:07,978 --> 00:58:09,807
♪ It's in his kiss ♪
1066
00:58:09,842 --> 00:58:11,637
♪ That's where it is ♪
1067
00:58:11,982 --> 00:58:15,641
To present the nominees for favorite female
1068
00:58:15,675 --> 00:58:20,853
in rock and pop are Teddy
Pendergrass and Tanya Tucker.
1069
00:58:21,129 --> 00:58:23,545
Linda Ronstadt.
1070
00:58:26,617 --> 00:58:28,343
Ms. Barbara Streisand.
1071
00:58:31,001 --> 00:58:32,243
And Donna Summer.
1072
00:58:33,624 --> 00:58:34,660
You open the envelope.
1073
00:58:34,694 --> 00:58:35,799
I'm too nervous.
1074
00:58:35,833 --> 00:58:38,284
I'll do the gentlemanly
thing here and I'll open it.
1075
00:58:38,318 --> 00:58:40,907
- If you will read.
- Okay. And the winner is...
1076
00:58:40,942 --> 00:58:42,081
Linda Ronstadt.
1077
00:58:46,603 --> 00:58:48,225
Linda was the queen.
1078
00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:50,641
She was like what
Beyoncé is now.
1079
00:58:52,678 --> 00:58:55,301
She was the first female
rock and roll star.
1080
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:57,786
♪ Want love? ♪
1081
00:58:59,201 --> 00:59:01,134
♪ Get closer ♪
1082
00:59:02,066 --> 00:59:04,103
She was the only
female artist the have
1083
00:59:04,137 --> 00:59:09,246
five platinum albums in a row
and most of them multi-platinum.
1084
00:59:09,971 --> 00:59:12,111
♪ Hold my hand ♪
1085
00:59:13,319 --> 00:59:16,011
For favorite female
in rock and pop...
1086
00:59:16,046 --> 00:59:17,254
Favorite country single...
1087
00:59:17,288 --> 00:59:19,359
Blue Bayou by Linda Ronstadt.
1088
00:59:19,394 --> 00:59:21,258
- And the winner is...
- Takes another one.
1089
00:59:21,292 --> 00:59:24,330
- Linda Ronstadt.
- The winner is Linda Ronstadt.
1090
00:59:24,917 --> 00:59:28,334
♪ You make a fuss when
her eyes ain't on you ♪
1091
00:59:28,368 --> 00:59:31,924
♪ Well give us something
to look forward to ♪
1092
00:59:31,958 --> 00:59:35,237
♪ Remember all those
other girls who ran ♪
1093
00:59:35,859 --> 00:59:38,378
The nature of being a pop musician is that you get
1094
00:59:38,413 --> 00:59:40,208
these things
that are successful
1095
00:59:40,242 --> 00:59:42,313
and you have to sing them
for the rest of your life.
1096
00:59:42,348 --> 00:59:43,970
Over and over and over again
and they start sounding
1097
00:59:44,005 --> 00:59:45,869
like your washing machine.
1098
00:59:48,457 --> 00:59:51,426
I didn't like singing in big
arenas because the sound
1099
00:59:51,460 --> 00:59:54,705
was like, you know, you'd hear
the guitar solo that
1100
00:59:54,740 --> 00:59:57,294
they played last week still
ringing around the rafters.
1101
00:59:59,848 --> 01:00:02,333
So I started looking
for other things to do.
1102
01:00:06,993 --> 01:00:09,962
There is this feeling that she has about the music itself
1103
01:00:09,996 --> 01:00:12,309
rather than the career itself.
1104
01:00:12,343 --> 01:00:15,933
You know, some people are
just hardcore careerists.
1105
01:00:16,140 --> 01:00:17,970
There's nothing wrong with that.
1106
01:00:18,695 --> 01:00:22,043
You know, it's how your mind
works that makes the difference.
1107
01:00:22,077 --> 01:00:25,909
It's how you see yourself or how
you see yourself in the world,
1108
01:00:25,943 --> 01:00:26,979
you know.
1109
01:00:27,013 --> 01:00:30,361
And not everybody's
a pure art for art's sake
1110
01:00:30,396 --> 01:00:32,363
and not everybody's
a pure careerist either,
1111
01:00:32,398 --> 01:00:33,502
especially in music
1112
01:00:33,537 --> 01:00:37,092
because musicians love music
or they wouldn't do it.
1113
01:00:40,095 --> 01:00:41,787
She wanted to change.
1114
01:00:41,821 --> 01:00:44,203
She got tired
of doing arena rock,
1115
01:00:44,237 --> 01:00:46,136
she wanted to try
different things.
1116
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:50,243
I picked up the phone and
called my great friend John Rockwell
1117
01:00:50,278 --> 01:00:53,350
who writes music criticism
for the New York Times.
1118
01:00:54,385 --> 01:00:56,905
I said I hate playing
these big sporting arenas.
1119
01:00:56,940 --> 01:00:59,667
It's not good for the audience,
it's not good for the band.
1120
01:00:59,908 --> 01:01:03,118
I want to sing in a theater
with a proscenium and a curtain.
1121
01:01:03,532 --> 01:01:05,327
He said well the next time
you come to New York
1122
01:01:05,362 --> 01:01:08,330
I'll take you down to meet this
fellow named Joseph Papp.
1123
01:01:08,814 --> 01:01:10,954
He has a theater, it's called
the New York Public Theater
1124
01:01:10,988 --> 01:01:14,095
and he does Shakespeare and he
does musicals; he did Hair.
1125
01:01:14,785 --> 01:01:17,098
He wanted to do
The Pirates of Penzance.
1126
01:01:17,788 --> 01:01:20,066
My mom was
a Gilbert and Sullivan lover.
1127
01:01:20,101 --> 01:01:23,414
She had a big book of Gilbert
and Sullivan songs on the piano.
1128
01:01:24,036 --> 01:01:28,005
And I actually learned all
the soprano parts as a kid.
1129
01:01:28,454 --> 01:01:30,421
And I loved singing them
1130
01:01:30,456 --> 01:01:33,010
but I never got a chance to
in rock and roll.
1131
01:01:33,770 --> 01:01:36,980
That was in her roots,
that was in her upbringing,
1132
01:01:37,014 --> 01:01:40,708
it was part of her authentic
musical experience.
1133
01:01:42,019 --> 01:01:44,194
Joe called me and
said if I wanted to do the part
1134
01:01:44,228 --> 01:01:45,747
I could have it.
1135
01:01:45,782 --> 01:01:47,266
And I said no I have to come
and audition
1136
01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:49,371
because I didn't know whether
I could sing it or not.
1137
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,065
She wanted to be certain
that she would do it well.
1138
01:01:53,306 --> 01:01:55,239
They thought being able to say
Linda Ronstadt's in it
1139
01:01:55,274 --> 01:01:57,207
would be good for business.
1140
01:01:57,241 --> 01:02:00,279
But her concern was whether
it would be good for the show.
1141
01:02:04,421 --> 01:02:07,010
I was there for several
rehearsals and she was fabulous.
1142
01:02:07,044 --> 01:02:09,426
She just grabbed it
by the horns and...
1143
01:02:15,018 --> 01:02:16,467
That was the first job
I was ever offered
1144
01:02:16,502 --> 01:02:17,779
where I actually got
to sing like that.
1145
01:02:17,814 --> 01:02:20,471
I was delighted, I really was.
But I can't do it very well yet.
1146
01:02:20,506 --> 01:02:22,301
Because it's really hard.
You can't learn that overnight.
1147
01:02:22,335 --> 01:02:24,959
- You got to be in training.
- In training, yup.
1148
01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:32,967
Linda had a great voice and she had a great vision for herself
1149
01:02:33,001 --> 01:02:36,487
and she didn't want to just
be singing rock and roll,
1150
01:02:36,522 --> 01:02:38,110
she wanted to do everything.
1151
01:02:38,489 --> 01:02:41,838
♪ Hold, monsters! ♪
1152
01:02:42,183 --> 01:02:44,530
♪ Ere your pirate
Caravanserai ♪
1153
01:02:44,564 --> 01:02:48,465
♪ Proceed, against our will
to wed us all ♪
1154
01:02:49,121 --> 01:02:53,435
♪ Just bear in mind that we
Are Wards in Chancery ♪
1155
01:02:53,470 --> 01:02:57,474
♪ And father
is a Major-General ♪
1156
01:02:57,508 --> 01:02:59,579
I knew some of her songs, sure.
1157
01:02:59,614 --> 01:03:02,203
But operetta?
1158
01:03:02,444 --> 01:03:03,894
♪ Prepare! ♪
1159
01:03:03,929 --> 01:03:09,589
♪ Unhappy General Stanley ♪
1160
01:03:09,624 --> 01:03:11,868
A week into rehearsal we all
sang through the score
1161
01:03:11,971 --> 01:03:14,146
just sitting in a circle
in chairs
1162
01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:18,253
and when I heard her voice
it was just
1163
01:03:18,288 --> 01:03:24,846
this belle canto soprano
gorgeous musical,
1164
01:03:26,296 --> 01:03:29,644
celestial yet earthy, just pure,
1165
01:03:29,678 --> 01:03:32,198
something so pure,
it just made me cry.
1166
01:03:32,233 --> 01:03:34,373
I just remember just listening
to that voice,
1167
01:03:34,407 --> 01:03:37,065
it was just singing
that stuff...
1168
01:03:39,930 --> 01:03:41,000
Touching.
1169
01:03:41,967 --> 01:03:43,244
♪ Oh, sisters,
Deaf to pity's name ♪
1170
01:03:43,278 --> 01:03:44,970
♪ For shame! ♪
1171
01:03:45,004 --> 01:03:47,110
♪ It's true that he has
Gone astray ♪
1172
01:03:47,144 --> 01:03:48,870
♪ But pray ♪
1173
01:03:48,905 --> 01:03:51,252
♪ Is that a reason
Good and true ♪
1174
01:03:51,286 --> 01:03:52,425
♪ Why you ♪
1175
01:03:52,460 --> 01:03:58,984
♪ Should all be deaf
To pity's name? ♪
1176
01:03:59,363 --> 01:04:01,538
Gilbert and Sullivan? Really?
1177
01:04:01,572 --> 01:04:04,886
A rock star who has the guts
to go out there
1178
01:04:04,921 --> 01:04:08,234
and do that kind of
musical comedy.
1179
01:04:08,269 --> 01:04:09,373
She just didn't care.
1180
01:04:09,408 --> 01:04:12,583
To her it was like
a mountain to climb.
1181
01:04:28,323 --> 01:04:30,947
Linda can bring
herself to sing anything.
1182
01:04:30,981 --> 01:04:34,605
She could sing opera, she could
do anything with her voice.
1183
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,331
I couldn't do all that.
1184
01:04:49,172 --> 01:04:51,036
Kevin Kline and I
were both nominated
1185
01:04:51,070 --> 01:04:52,589
for Tony Awards for that show.
1186
01:04:53,141 --> 01:04:54,556
Kevin deserved it
more than I did.
1187
01:04:54,591 --> 01:04:56,489
All I did was walk
around and sing.
1188
01:05:03,427 --> 01:05:05,602
My mom died during
Pirates of Penzance.
1189
01:05:07,535 --> 01:05:09,502
I wasn't with her when she died.
1190
01:05:09,537 --> 01:05:12,022
And I just couldn't quite
get it through my head
1191
01:05:12,057 --> 01:05:13,299
that she was gone
out of the world
1192
01:05:13,334 --> 01:05:15,232
and I was never going
to see her again.
1193
01:05:17,994 --> 01:05:20,237
She'd had all these records -
Louis Armstrong,
1194
01:05:20,272 --> 01:05:22,067
Ella Fitzgerald,
1195
01:05:22,101 --> 01:05:24,172
Billie Holiday, Peggy Lee.
1196
01:05:24,207 --> 01:05:26,934
And I thought I'd like to try
to sing some of those songs.
1197
01:05:27,210 --> 01:05:32,318
♪ Only the lonely ♪
1198
01:05:32,353 --> 01:05:35,528
When we lived together almost
every evening the last record
1199
01:05:35,563 --> 01:05:37,496
we listened to was
a Frank Sinatra album
1200
01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:39,601
called Songs for
Only the Lonely.
1201
01:05:39,636 --> 01:05:41,983
With Nelson Riddle arranging.
1202
01:05:44,434 --> 01:05:48,334
Constantly people were telling Linda you can't do this.
1203
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:50,060
I'm guilty.
1204
01:05:50,095 --> 01:05:52,752
When she was going to do
the Nelson Riddle album
1205
01:05:52,787 --> 01:05:55,238
I didn't think it was
a good idea,
1206
01:05:55,272 --> 01:05:57,136
not because she
couldn't do it
1207
01:05:57,171 --> 01:06:00,691
but because we had this run
going with rock and roll records
1208
01:06:00,726 --> 01:06:02,245
and country rock.
1209
01:06:03,729 --> 01:06:05,524
I said I'd like to find somebody that can write arrangements
1210
01:06:05,558 --> 01:06:06,974
like Nelson Riddle.
1211
01:06:07,353 --> 01:06:10,115
They said why don't you
just ask Nelson Riddle?
1212
01:06:10,736 --> 01:06:13,187
Well I didn't know
he was still alive.
1213
01:06:13,463 --> 01:06:15,603
You were the only person
that I knew that could do
1214
01:06:15,637 --> 01:06:17,363
orchestrations like this.
1215
01:06:17,398 --> 01:06:18,675
I didn't know where you were,
1216
01:06:18,709 --> 01:06:20,608
whether you'd be interested
in working with me.
1217
01:06:20,642 --> 01:06:22,541
Whether you'd ever
heard of me or not.
1218
01:06:22,575 --> 01:06:24,267
And as soon as I started
learning the songs
1219
01:06:24,301 --> 01:06:25,647
they just got inside me.
1220
01:06:25,682 --> 01:06:27,270
I wanted to record them
and I wanted to do it
1221
01:06:27,304 --> 01:06:29,203
worse than anything
I've ever wanted to do.
1222
01:06:29,237 --> 01:06:30,583
I remember your phrase for this.
1223
01:06:30,618 --> 01:06:34,311
You said these are
songs I cannot not do.
1224
01:06:34,346 --> 01:06:35,692
I can't not do them.
1225
01:06:35,726 --> 01:06:38,453
At some point
it's like falling in love.
1226
01:06:38,488 --> 01:06:40,110
Choice doesn't
even enter into it.
1227
01:06:40,145 --> 01:06:43,217
♪ What's new? ♪
1228
01:06:44,114 --> 01:06:47,428
♪ How is the world ♪
1229
01:06:48,636 --> 01:06:51,328
♪ Treating you? ♪
1230
01:06:52,433 --> 01:06:54,642
I would think oh my God,
how can I sing these songs?
1231
01:06:54,676 --> 01:06:57,162
Ella Fitzgerald has sung them,
Billie Holiday has sing them,
1232
01:06:57,196 --> 01:06:59,095
Frank Sinatra has sung them.
1233
01:07:00,889 --> 01:07:03,720
♪ Handsome as ever ♪
1234
01:07:05,239 --> 01:07:07,068
She studied all of those records
1235
01:07:07,103 --> 01:07:09,726
and she studied every available
version she could find
1236
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,417
of each one of those songs.
1237
01:07:11,452 --> 01:07:13,385
She is a real student.
1238
01:07:13,419 --> 01:07:16,112
♪ What's new? ♪
1239
01:07:16,457 --> 01:07:20,357
♪ How did that romance ♪
1240
01:07:20,806 --> 01:07:22,808
♪ Come through? ♪
1241
01:07:23,291 --> 01:07:26,260
She told she wanted to get those songs out of the elevator.
1242
01:07:26,294 --> 01:07:29,125
She meant that that's the
only place you heard them.
1243
01:07:29,159 --> 01:07:32,335
And she wanted to point out that
that's not where they belong.
1244
01:07:32,369 --> 01:07:34,475
They were some of the
best songs ever written.
1245
01:07:34,509 --> 01:07:38,582
♪ Why am I asking
what's new? ♪
1246
01:07:39,928 --> 01:07:43,173
I went to her house and
tried to talk her out of it but
1247
01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:46,349
as soon as she told me Nelson
Riddle was going to do it,
1248
01:07:46,383 --> 01:07:49,559
I said well I'd like
to come to the record session.
1249
01:07:59,189 --> 01:08:00,915
When my sister was
in high school she got to go
1250
01:08:00,949 --> 01:08:03,331
to her senior prom and she got
to wear these strapless dresses
1251
01:08:03,366 --> 01:08:04,712
with a lot of tool
1252
01:08:04,746 --> 01:08:06,886
and I always wanted
one of those dresses.
1253
01:08:08,819 --> 01:08:10,718
By the time I got to high school
1254
01:08:10,752 --> 01:08:13,169
styles had changed
and I never got to have one.
1255
01:08:13,203 --> 01:08:14,687
So I said I'm going to put
a show together,
1256
01:08:14,722 --> 01:08:16,724
we're all going to get to wear
those dresses.
1257
01:08:17,380 --> 01:08:20,831
♪ So dream ♪
1258
01:08:21,591 --> 01:08:25,112
♪ Dream ♪
1259
01:08:25,905 --> 01:08:28,563
♪ Dream ♪
1260
01:08:34,500 --> 01:08:35,915
This is a real treat tonight.
1261
01:08:35,950 --> 01:08:37,883
We have three marvelous singers
on the show
1262
01:08:37,917 --> 01:08:40,748
and would you know how many
times they have been nominated
1263
01:08:40,782 --> 01:08:42,198
for Grammys between them?
1264
01:08:42,232 --> 01:08:43,820
Forty-five times in total.
1265
01:08:48,273 --> 01:08:50,240
The albums they've all sold
are in the multi-millions
1266
01:08:50,275 --> 01:08:52,449
and I guess it's taken
the ladies about ten years
1267
01:08:52,484 --> 01:08:54,624
to get this together where they
wanted to work together
1268
01:08:54,658 --> 01:08:58,697
and made an album called Trio
and it was well worth the time.
1269
01:08:58,731 --> 01:09:00,940
The album is described as
old-timey but it's sensational.
1270
01:09:00,975 --> 01:09:02,804
Would you welcome
Linda Ronstadt, Dolly Parton,
1271
01:09:02,839 --> 01:09:03,943
Emmylou Harris?
1272
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:13,505
I had met Dolly.
1273
01:09:13,539 --> 01:09:15,369
I saw her singing
on the Grand Ole Opry
1274
01:09:15,403 --> 01:09:16,680
and she was a wonder to behold.
1275
01:09:16,715 --> 01:09:19,511
What you have in front of you is
one of the most beautiful girls
1276
01:09:19,545 --> 01:09:20,684
you've ever seen.
1277
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:22,410
She's just gorgeous.
1278
01:09:23,411 --> 01:09:24,654
When she opened her mouth
and started to sing
1279
01:09:24,688 --> 01:09:25,793
I fell on the floor.
1280
01:09:25,827 --> 01:09:27,691
She's an amazing singer.
1281
01:09:27,726 --> 01:09:32,558
♪ Jolene, Jolene ♪
1282
01:09:32,972 --> 01:09:37,736
♪ I'm begging of you
Please don't take my man ♪
1283
01:09:39,358 --> 01:09:40,808
I told
Emmylou about her
1284
01:09:40,842 --> 01:09:42,741
and then Emmy
met her somehow.
1285
01:09:42,775 --> 01:09:44,536
♪ Jolene ♪
1286
01:09:44,570 --> 01:09:48,402
When I made my first trip to Nashville the powers that be
1287
01:09:48,436 --> 01:09:51,301
set up a meeting with Dolly
and she was making a record
1288
01:09:51,336 --> 01:09:54,546
in her studio
and it was like unbelievable.
1289
01:09:54,580 --> 01:09:57,411
It was better than
any Disneyland visit.
1290
01:09:57,445 --> 01:09:59,723
♪ Eyes of emerald green ♪
1291
01:09:59,758 --> 01:10:01,725
They kind of found
my music somewhere
1292
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,038
and kind of wanted
to meet me
1293
01:10:04,072 --> 01:10:06,351
and that's kind of how
we all started.
1294
01:10:07,352 --> 01:10:09,388
Emmy called me up and
she's like Dolly Parton's at my house,
1295
01:10:09,423 --> 01:10:11,010
you have to come over.
1296
01:10:11,045 --> 01:10:12,805
I was living like
40 minutes away
1297
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:14,531
and I got there in 20 minutes.
1298
01:10:14,566 --> 01:10:17,776
She came over and there we were,
the three of us
1299
01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:20,261
and we were there
with our idol Dolly.
1300
01:10:20,296 --> 01:10:22,539
They had this big old house,
almost like a bunch of hippies
1301
01:10:22,574 --> 01:10:25,024
just living up there,
different people and musicians.
1302
01:10:25,059 --> 01:10:26,647
They had different bedrooms.
1303
01:10:26,681 --> 01:10:28,614
It was just a
free-for-all kind of house.
1304
01:10:28,649 --> 01:10:30,444
A dream for musicians.
1305
01:10:30,478 --> 01:10:33,964
And somebody said
well sing something.
1306
01:10:33,999 --> 01:10:37,899
♪ Bury me beneath the willow ♪
1307
01:10:37,934 --> 01:10:40,902
♪ Under the whipping willow
Tree ♪
1308
01:10:40,937 --> 01:10:45,562
♪ So he may know
Where I am sleeping ♪
1309
01:10:45,597 --> 01:10:48,738
♪ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ♪
1310
01:10:48,772 --> 01:10:50,049
So I started singing that
1311
01:10:50,084 --> 01:10:51,741
and then they started saying
sing that again.
1312
01:10:51,775 --> 01:10:53,363
I go "Oh, bury me... "
1313
01:10:53,398 --> 01:10:55,020
And here come
all these harmonies
1314
01:10:55,054 --> 01:10:57,678
and oh it was just
chilling, chilling, chilling.
1315
01:10:57,712 --> 01:10:59,818
♪ Beneath the willow ♪
1316
01:10:59,852 --> 01:11:03,787
♪ Under the weeping willow
Tree ♪
1317
01:11:03,822 --> 01:11:09,034
♪ Well he may know
Where I am sleeping ♪
1318
01:11:09,068 --> 01:11:12,934
♪ And perhaps
He'll weep for me ♪
1319
01:11:12,969 --> 01:11:14,936
When we heard our voices
1320
01:11:14,971 --> 01:11:18,492
it was like injecting some kind
of serum into your veins.
1321
01:11:18,526 --> 01:11:20,632
It was like a high
like you've never felt.
1322
01:11:20,666 --> 01:11:22,599
We sang first in a living room
1323
01:11:22,634 --> 01:11:24,049
and said well
this sounds really good.
1324
01:11:24,083 --> 01:11:25,533
It was special,
it was different.
1325
01:11:25,568 --> 01:11:30,642
It was like a sound of
sisters, musical sisters.
1326
01:11:30,676 --> 01:11:35,888
♪ Won't you bury me
Beneath the willow ♪
1327
01:11:35,923 --> 01:11:39,823
♪ Under the weeping willow
Tree ♪
1328
01:11:39,858 --> 01:11:42,412
♪ Where he may know where... ♪
1329
01:11:42,447 --> 01:11:45,657
At that moment we thought
we have to do a record.
1330
01:11:47,728 --> 01:11:51,076
♪ To know know know him ♪
1331
01:11:51,387 --> 01:11:55,977
♪ Is to love love love him ♪
1332
01:11:56,012 --> 01:12:00,119
♪ Just to see him smile ♪
1333
01:12:00,154 --> 01:12:04,331
♪ Makes my life worthwhile ♪
1334
01:12:05,539 --> 01:12:07,472
We learned so much
about singing from each other
1335
01:12:07,506 --> 01:12:09,439
because you get to sort of
be them for a second
1336
01:12:09,474 --> 01:12:10,923
when you're shadowing
them in harmony.
1337
01:12:10,958 --> 01:12:14,168
It's like getting on an eagle
and getting to see the world
1338
01:12:14,202 --> 01:12:16,515
through that eagle's experience.
1339
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:18,172
I get to sing through
Dolly's voice
1340
01:12:18,206 --> 01:12:20,899
or sing through Emmy's voice
when I sing real close harmony.
1341
01:12:20,933 --> 01:12:22,590
♪ Why ♪
1342
01:12:23,729 --> 01:12:27,802
♪ Can't he see me? ♪
1343
01:12:28,803 --> 01:12:32,566
♪ How I... ♪
1344
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,465
The only big disagreements would
be are we going to use autoharp
1345
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:37,605
or dulcimer on this song.
1346
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,193
Yeah.
1347
01:12:39,227 --> 01:12:40,919
Sometimes we would disagree
about who would sing lead
1348
01:12:40,953 --> 01:12:42,679
because Emmy and I
always wanted Dolly
1349
01:12:42,714 --> 01:12:44,060
to sing lead on everything.
1350
01:12:44,094 --> 01:12:46,096
Oh, well Dolly will
sound great on that.
1351
01:12:46,131 --> 01:12:48,409
You sing lead!
No, you sing lead!
1352
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:52,551
Linda is such a perfectionist.
1353
01:12:52,586 --> 01:12:54,070
She's a pain in the ass
sometimes
1354
01:12:54,104 --> 01:12:56,452
because she is such
a perfectionist.
1355
01:12:56,486 --> 01:12:58,764
Because she will not have it
unless it's perfect.
1356
01:12:58,799 --> 01:13:01,560
She used to make me sing those
harmonies over and over
1357
01:13:01,595 --> 01:13:04,805
and I said I'm going to sing it
the same way no matter what.
1358
01:13:04,839 --> 01:13:06,979
No, you're not! You're going
to hit this one note.
1359
01:13:07,014 --> 01:13:09,810
And see I don't know how to,
all those intricate harmonies
1360
01:13:09,844 --> 01:13:11,467
like Emmylou and Linda do.
1361
01:13:11,501 --> 01:13:13,986
I just sing that raw stuff
from feeling
1362
01:13:14,021 --> 01:13:17,265
and it ain't always proper
but it sounds good.
1363
01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:20,993
♪ Yes just to know ♪
1364
01:13:21,028 --> 01:13:25,101
♪ Is to love love love him ♪
1365
01:13:25,135 --> 01:13:29,761
♪ And I do ♪
1366
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:34,938
Linda, you've sing
just about all types of music.
1367
01:13:34,973 --> 01:13:38,252
Light opera; you've been on
Broadway, rock and roll, pop.
1368
01:13:38,286 --> 01:13:40,530
What's your next project
going to be?
1369
01:13:40,565 --> 01:13:42,739
I'm going to do an album
of Mexican music,
1370
01:13:42,774 --> 01:13:43,740
of traditional Mexican music.
1371
01:13:43,775 --> 01:13:46,467
I'm kind of a
traditional Mexican myself.
1372
01:13:46,502 --> 01:13:48,711
You know, I grew up about 40
minutes from the Mexican border,
1373
01:13:48,745 --> 01:13:51,748
my family are Mexican,
and that is my roots.
1374
01:13:51,783 --> 01:13:54,613
That's what I came from
and I have been dying to do
1375
01:13:54,648 --> 01:13:56,063
this record
for years and years
1376
01:13:56,097 --> 01:13:57,651
and I'm getting around
to it this year.
1377
01:13:57,685 --> 01:13:59,791
Boy, I'm going o do it.
1378
01:14:07,005 --> 01:14:09,904
Our neighbor that lived behind us in the garage apartment
1379
01:14:09,939 --> 01:14:12,631
was Harry Dean Stanton,
great character actor
1380
01:14:12,666 --> 01:14:15,565
and a great singer
of Mexican folk songs.
1381
01:14:16,014 --> 01:14:18,603
We would hear him up until
the wee hours singing
1382
01:14:18,637 --> 01:14:21,571
these Mexican folk songs,
these canciones.
1383
01:14:21,606 --> 01:14:25,195
And Linda knew all those songs.
1384
01:14:25,230 --> 01:14:28,129
I don't think people
thought of her as...
1385
01:14:28,164 --> 01:14:30,615
as Mexican.
1386
01:14:30,925 --> 01:14:33,652
It certainly never came up.
I never heard it.
1387
01:14:33,687 --> 01:14:36,690
I mean, the name
Ronstadt is not Hernandez.
1388
01:14:36,724 --> 01:14:38,554
Ronstadt is a
German-sounding name.
1389
01:14:38,588 --> 01:14:42,558
No, she's certainly
from Mexican heritage
1390
01:14:42,592 --> 01:14:44,905
but it wasn't the most
apparent thing.
1391
01:14:44,939 --> 01:14:46,941
I want to see
where you put your D.
1392
01:14:46,976 --> 01:14:49,565
Say ganador.
1393
01:14:49,599 --> 01:14:51,739
Ga...
1394
01:14:51,774 --> 01:14:54,708
The phrasing, Ganador.
1395
01:14:54,742 --> 01:14:58,781
Ganador.
1396
01:14:58,815 --> 01:15:00,817
- Dor?
- Mm-hm. Mm-hm.
1397
01:15:00,852 --> 01:15:03,717
Is it on the roof of your mouth,
the back of your teeth or...
1398
01:15:04,234 --> 01:15:07,341
When he asked me if I would sing
a harmony on his record
1399
01:15:07,375 --> 01:15:09,170
I was completely delighted
1400
01:15:09,205 --> 01:15:12,588
because you can only learn
by doing. I can't...
1401
01:15:13,036 --> 01:15:14,831
there isn't a book you can get,
you know,
1402
01:15:14,866 --> 01:15:17,834
how do you learn how to be
a singer in Spanish?
1403
01:15:17,869 --> 01:15:20,009
It's always been a dream
of mine to make an album
1404
01:15:20,043 --> 01:15:22,977
of these Mexican songs
that I learned from my father.
1405
01:15:30,260 --> 01:15:31,986
My father had a beautiful
baritone voice.
1406
01:15:32,021 --> 01:15:34,368
He sounded like
a cross between Pedro Infante
1407
01:15:34,402 --> 01:15:36,232
and Frank Sinatra.
1408
01:15:37,302 --> 01:15:40,029
Always if there was a dinner
party or something he'd get the
1409
01:15:40,063 --> 01:15:43,653
guitar out and he'd just sing
and I always would fall asleep
1410
01:15:43,688 --> 01:15:46,898
in somebody's lap listening to
my dad sing some beautiful song.
1411
01:15:49,141 --> 01:15:52,282
We always as a family,
we always sang in Spanish.
1412
01:15:52,317 --> 01:15:55,354
Even though I didn't understand
much of what I was singing,
1413
01:15:55,389 --> 01:15:56,942
it was something
that I learned to do.
1414
01:15:56,977 --> 01:15:58,772
It's kind of like lip reading,
you know.
1415
01:15:58,806 --> 01:16:02,016
I used to kind of chameleon in
harmony along with my father.
1416
01:16:07,746 --> 01:16:11,025
To learn to sing that style as
a grown-up professional singer,
1417
01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:12,648
that took some doing.
1418
01:16:40,814 --> 01:16:43,161
I always forget the beginning
where I go through the ending
1419
01:16:43,195 --> 01:16:44,749
and it makes it so hard.
1420
01:16:44,783 --> 01:16:46,405
Oh yeah.
What was it, this way?
1421
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:47,959
Is that how you do it?
The Latin way.
1422
01:16:47,993 --> 01:16:49,339
Okay, I got it.
1423
01:16:50,962 --> 01:16:52,895
Okay, I'm learning
all these new things.
1424
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,043
My dad invited me to go to the
Tucson Mariachi Conference
1425
01:17:03,077 --> 01:17:06,011
and that way I got to meet
the Mariachi Vargas.
1426
01:17:09,049 --> 01:17:12,121
Those good bands like the Cobre
or the Camperos
1427
01:17:12,155 --> 01:17:14,157
or the Mariachi Vargas, you're
going to go to a symphony
1428
01:17:14,192 --> 01:17:15,952
and you're not going to find
better musicians.
1429
01:17:15,987 --> 01:17:17,920
They're all virtuoso players.
1430
01:17:23,477 --> 01:17:25,375
I picked a couple of songs.
1431
01:17:26,307 --> 01:17:28,413
The band said these songs
are very traditional
1432
01:17:28,447 --> 01:17:30,380
and they're very difficult
to do.
1433
01:17:31,209 --> 01:17:33,038
I said well, they're
the only songs I know
1434
01:17:33,073 --> 01:17:34,971
so we better learn them.
1435
01:17:42,185 --> 01:17:43,980
I went to the president
of my record company,
1436
01:17:44,015 --> 01:17:46,396
who's a man who genuinely
likes music, and I said look,
1437
01:17:46,431 --> 01:17:48,191
I made all these records
for you, they saw this.
1438
01:17:48,226 --> 01:17:49,848
I'm going to do this
just for me
1439
01:17:49,883 --> 01:17:50,780
and this might be
self-indulgent.
1440
01:17:50,815 --> 01:17:52,195
If it sells two copies
I don't care
1441
01:17:52,230 --> 01:17:54,715
but if I can't record this music
I'm going to die.
1442
01:17:55,854 --> 01:17:58,029
I don't understand any Spanish.
1443
01:17:58,063 --> 01:18:02,033
I didn't understand how popular
those songs were
1444
01:18:02,067 --> 01:18:06,762
but this is a lady who wanted
to do it her way
1445
01:18:06,796 --> 01:18:08,556
and who was going to say no?
1446
01:18:41,348 --> 01:18:44,213
Canciones de mi Padre,
it's the largest selling
1447
01:18:44,247 --> 01:18:47,147
Spanish language album
in the history of the industry.
1448
01:18:47,181 --> 01:18:50,944
That's the whole Linda Ronstadt
story right there in a nutshell.
1449
01:18:50,978 --> 01:18:54,119
Linda deciding she wants
to do something,
1450
01:18:54,154 --> 01:18:56,846
the record company telling
her she can't.
1451
01:18:56,881 --> 01:18:58,952
She goes ahead
and does it anyway
1452
01:18:58,986 --> 01:19:03,439
and they jump on board
as the thing starts to take off.
1453
01:19:05,027 --> 01:19:07,408
Toda la Familia
would come and they loved it
1454
01:19:07,443 --> 01:19:10,032
because they were here
from Mexico.
1455
01:19:10,066 --> 01:19:13,104
Even though their kids
had grown up here
1456
01:19:13,138 --> 01:19:15,175
and become American citizens,
1457
01:19:15,209 --> 01:19:18,247
who is this girl singing songs
so beautifully.
1458
01:19:27,428 --> 01:19:29,223
The fact that she
went on and did that
1459
01:19:29,258 --> 01:19:31,432
and did it in such a big way.
1460
01:19:31,639 --> 01:19:33,400
It was a brave thing to do.
1461
01:19:33,434 --> 01:19:35,160
Many people would
have been terrified
1462
01:19:35,195 --> 01:19:36,990
I'll mess up my career.
1463
01:19:37,645 --> 01:19:42,409
But obviously she had
purpose, personal decision.
1464
01:19:43,375 --> 01:19:44,514
It's good.
1465
01:20:21,931 --> 01:20:24,900
To have that traditionalism going along on the bus with me
1466
01:20:24,934 --> 01:20:27,178
from town to town where
I'd only sung pop music,
1467
01:20:27,212 --> 01:20:30,008
to take that part of the dirt
with me, you know,
1468
01:20:30,043 --> 01:20:33,011
the part of the soil of the land
where I came from to Cleveland
1469
01:20:33,046 --> 01:20:35,324
and Cincinnati and New York,
that was a thrill.
1470
01:20:35,358 --> 01:20:37,395
You should have seen
Central Park with, you know,
1471
01:20:37,429 --> 01:20:40,122
close to a million people
in it when the mariachi
1472
01:20:40,156 --> 01:20:42,607
got up on stage with their
big hats, the place fell out.
1473
01:20:42,641 --> 01:20:45,092
They went nuts. There
was such a thing of pride
1474
01:20:45,127 --> 01:20:47,163
that went from the stage
to the audience.
1475
01:20:47,198 --> 01:20:48,509
It was just great.
1476
01:20:49,994 --> 01:20:53,307
This song was written
by me and my father
1477
01:20:53,342 --> 01:20:55,862
and it's called
Lo Siento Mi Vida.
1478
01:21:01,695 --> 01:21:03,939
My dad died when he was 84.
1479
01:21:05,423 --> 01:21:08,564
There was a kind of a peace
that happened when he died.
1480
01:21:10,946 --> 01:21:13,120
In the three of four days before
he died he was reading to us
1481
01:21:13,155 --> 01:21:16,365
passages from
Gabriel Garcia Marquez's book
1482
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:20,024
Love in the Time of Cholera
and it was just a great sharing.
1483
01:21:22,681 --> 01:21:25,132
It was a different experience
being with my father
1484
01:21:25,167 --> 01:21:27,410
when he died
than it was with my mother.
1485
01:21:28,653 --> 01:21:31,587
I knew I was going to miss him
but I accepted it better.
1486
01:21:43,357 --> 01:21:45,946
He had what I would
describe as a beautiful death.
1487
01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:52,470
I'd seen her on
TV and I thought she was great
1488
01:21:52,504 --> 01:21:56,025
but when she came to
New Orleans she was just
1489
01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:59,995
so down to earth
and girl next door thing.
1490
01:22:00,374 --> 01:22:02,342
And just humble.
1491
01:22:03,377 --> 01:22:05,655
She was just a sweet,
humble person.
1492
01:22:07,002 --> 01:22:10,143
I'd been in New
Orleans for the World's Fair
1493
01:22:10,177 --> 01:22:12,007
and somebody said well
the Neville Brothers are playing
1494
01:22:12,041 --> 01:22:14,043
at some club down
in the Quarter. We should go.
1495
01:22:14,078 --> 01:22:16,252
We going to get
serious, serious right now.
1496
01:22:16,287 --> 01:22:19,324
I'm going to turn you on to
our brother Aaron Neville.
1497
01:22:19,359 --> 01:22:20,567
Aaron Neville
was on stage singing
1498
01:22:20,601 --> 01:22:22,500
this beautiful song Arianne.
1499
01:22:22,534 --> 01:22:24,088
♪ Arianne is April morning ♪
1500
01:22:27,298 --> 01:22:31,336
♪ That comes rippling
Through my window ♪
1501
01:22:31,543 --> 01:22:35,340
♪ She's the smell
of coffee brewing ♪
1502
01:22:35,651 --> 01:22:39,517
♪ On a quiet, rainy Sunday ♪
1503
01:22:39,724 --> 01:22:41,484
Somebody told me
she was in the audience
1504
01:22:41,519 --> 01:22:43,555
so I called her up on stage.
1505
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:45,454
Sing some doo wop.
1506
01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:47,559
Usually I'll never do
anything like that
1507
01:22:47,594 --> 01:22:49,768
because I like to rehearse
everything first.
1508
01:22:49,803 --> 01:22:52,150
But I wasn't going to say no
to Aaron Neville.
1509
01:22:52,357 --> 01:22:54,739
After that I asked
for an autograph.
1510
01:22:54,773 --> 01:22:57,397
She said To Aaron, Love,
I'll sing with you anytime,
1511
01:22:57,431 --> 01:23:00,296
any place, anywhere in any key.
1512
01:23:06,682 --> 01:23:08,753
♪ Look at this face ♪
1513
01:23:08,787 --> 01:23:10,272
The next morning
I woke up
1514
01:23:10,306 --> 01:23:11,790
and my first thought
was boy I like singing
1515
01:23:11,825 --> 01:23:13,482
with Aaron Neville.
That sounded pretty good.
1516
01:23:13,516 --> 01:23:15,311
And then I thought, you idiot,
everybody sounds good
1517
01:23:15,346 --> 01:23:17,348
when they sing
with Aaron Neville.
1518
01:23:18,418 --> 01:23:21,283
I said we got to make a record
together and he was up for it.
1519
01:23:21,317 --> 01:23:23,319
♪ I don't know much ♪
1520
01:23:24,631 --> 01:23:27,772
♪ But I know I love you ♪
1521
01:23:31,293 --> 01:23:36,401
♪ And that may be
All I need to know ♪
1522
01:23:37,782 --> 01:23:40,612
There were all kind
of rumors going on...
1523
01:23:41,682 --> 01:23:44,754
They say oh Linda and Aaron
got married or whatever.
1524
01:23:45,445 --> 01:23:47,067
Just crazy stuff.
1525
01:23:47,102 --> 01:23:49,552
♪ Look at these dreams ♪
1526
01:23:50,105 --> 01:23:54,350
♪ So beaten
And so battered ♪
1527
01:23:54,385 --> 01:23:56,456
♪ I don't know much ♪
1528
01:23:56,490 --> 01:23:58,596
The producer told us
if you don't make it look real
1529
01:23:58,630 --> 01:24:02,117
ain't no sense doing it.
So we had to make it look real.
1530
01:24:04,567 --> 01:24:08,778
♪ That may be
All there is ♪
1531
01:24:09,503 --> 01:24:12,644
♪ To know ♪
1532
01:24:15,268 --> 01:24:19,617
At the studio I said I'll
see you at the Grammys.
1533
01:24:24,553 --> 01:24:27,107
I had a speech but
1534
01:24:28,419 --> 01:24:31,663
Too nervous. I just want to
say thank you to Linda first.
1535
01:24:32,733 --> 01:24:34,528
And my wife Joelle.
1536
01:24:36,944 --> 01:24:38,774
Aaron and I won two
Grammys for that record.
1537
01:24:40,741 --> 01:24:43,227
But as time went on there was
something really wrong
1538
01:24:43,261 --> 01:24:44,676
with my voice.
1539
01:24:46,885 --> 01:24:50,648
I just lost a lot of
different colors in my voice.
1540
01:24:51,580 --> 01:24:53,237
There's a lot of things
you do in singing.
1541
01:24:53,271 --> 01:24:56,792
You turn your voice to different
planes to make different sounds
1542
01:24:56,826 --> 01:24:58,621
and I couldn't do any of that.
1543
01:25:01,831 --> 01:25:04,386
Turned out I had
Parkinson's disease.
1544
01:25:06,664 --> 01:25:08,700
Singing is really complex
1545
01:25:08,735 --> 01:25:12,221
and I was made most aware
of it by having it vanish.
1546
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,812
I can still sing in my mind
but I can't do it physically.
1547
01:25:19,194 --> 01:25:23,163
I sang my last concert
on November 7th, 2009.
1548
01:25:23,577 --> 01:25:25,269
It was a Mexican show.
1549
01:25:26,822 --> 01:25:30,791
Must have been
quite a reckoning
1550
01:25:30,826 --> 01:25:33,449
to have this marvelous
instrument
1551
01:25:33,484 --> 01:25:35,348
that could always
hold the notes, hit the notes
1552
01:25:35,382 --> 01:25:36,970
and shape the notes,
1553
01:25:37,004 --> 01:25:39,731
could no longer hold the notes
without quiver.
1554
01:25:41,906 --> 01:25:44,288
But there's a lot of good
records with
1555
01:25:44,322 --> 01:25:45,979
her magnificent voice on them
1556
01:25:46,013 --> 01:25:48,775
and I hear her laughing
in my head all the time.
1557
01:25:48,809 --> 01:25:50,708
I hear that cackle all the time.
1558
01:25:51,536 --> 01:25:53,469
I'm sort of never without her.
1559
01:25:56,300 --> 01:26:00,442
I could imagine not being
able to sing for Linda is awful.
1560
01:26:00,856 --> 01:26:06,551
But I also know nobody who could
handle that kind of change
1561
01:26:06,586 --> 01:26:10,210
or adjustment in a more
logical and thoughtful
1562
01:26:10,245 --> 01:26:12,557
and intelligent way than Linda.
1563
01:26:14,352 --> 01:26:16,561
I don't think she
misses going on the road.
1564
01:26:16,837 --> 01:26:19,564
I don't think she
misses making records.
1565
01:26:21,359 --> 01:26:24,397
I think she misses
singing with her friends
1566
01:26:24,431 --> 01:26:27,400
and singing in the living room
with her family.
1567
01:26:29,540 --> 01:26:31,438
There's just no one
on the planet
1568
01:26:31,473 --> 01:26:35,615
that ever had or ever will
have a voice like Linda's.
1569
01:26:47,627 --> 01:26:49,491
You know,
I'm grateful for the time I had.
1570
01:26:49,525 --> 01:26:53,219
I got to live a lot of my dreams
and I feel lucky about it.
1571
01:26:56,049 --> 01:26:58,431
Another person with Parkinson's
said that life after death
1572
01:26:58,465 --> 01:26:59,811
isn't the question.
1573
01:27:01,848 --> 01:27:03,712
It's life before death.
1574
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:07,888
So how are you going to do it?
1575
01:27:09,062 --> 01:27:10,684
How are you going to live?
1576
01:28:07,154 --> 01:28:08,708
Couldn't find a part there.
1577
01:28:08,984 --> 01:28:10,468
Start right there.
1578
01:28:18,511 --> 01:28:20,651
I don't even have that note
in my speaking range anymore.
1579
01:28:22,377 --> 01:28:25,725
Before you said
you couldn't sing anymore.
1580
01:28:25,759 --> 01:28:27,416
This isn't really singing.
1581
01:28:27,934 --> 01:28:30,833
Believe me,
it's a few notes.
1582
01:28:30,868 --> 01:28:33,629
- But it's not really singing.
- Are you enjoying it?
1583
01:28:33,664 --> 01:28:35,459
Well, I would enjoy it much more
if I could sing
1584
01:28:35,493 --> 01:28:37,426
but I can't let them
sing this without me.
1585
01:28:38,185 --> 01:28:39,911
It's a family thing.
1586
01:28:40,533 --> 01:28:42,811
Shall we?
You guys ready?
1587
01:30:00,475 --> 01:30:02,477
- Do we get to eat?
- Yes.
1588
01:30:02,511 --> 01:30:03,995
Good.
1589
01:30:04,030 --> 01:30:07,447
♪ I've been cheated ♪
1590
01:30:07,792 --> 01:30:11,002
♪ Been mistreated ♪
1591
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:16,836
♪ When will I love be loved? ♪
1592
01:30:18,769 --> 01:30:21,806
♪ I've been put down ♪
1593
01:30:22,220 --> 01:30:25,223
♪ I've been pushed around ♪
1594
01:30:25,741 --> 01:30:30,677
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1595
01:30:32,817 --> 01:30:35,924
♪ When I find a new man ♪
1596
01:30:36,269 --> 01:30:38,823
♪ That I want for mine ♪
1597
01:30:39,790 --> 01:30:42,931
♪ Always breaks
My heart in two ♪
1598
01:30:42,965 --> 01:30:47,763
♪ It happens every time ♪
1599
01:30:48,833 --> 01:30:51,940
♪ I've been made blue ♪
1600
01:30:52,216 --> 01:30:55,495
♪ I've been lied to ♪
1601
01:30:55,875 --> 01:31:00,983
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1602
01:31:17,206 --> 01:31:20,209
♪ When I find a new man ♪
1603
01:31:20,727 --> 01:31:23,765
♪ That I want for mine ♪
1604
01:31:24,110 --> 01:31:27,251
♪ He always breaks
My heart in two ♪
1605
01:31:27,285 --> 01:31:32,083
♪ It happens every time ♪
1606
01:31:33,188 --> 01:31:36,191
♪ I've been cheated ♪
1607
01:31:36,778 --> 01:31:39,815
♪ Been mistreated ♪
1608
01:31:40,229 --> 01:31:45,131
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1609
01:31:47,685 --> 01:31:52,172
♪ When will I be loved? ♪
1610
01:31:53,242 --> 01:31:54,623
♪ Tell me ♪
1611
01:31:54,658 --> 01:31:57,971
♪ When will I ♪
1612
01:31:58,247 --> 01:32:00,042
♪ Be ♪
1613
01:32:01,009 --> 01:32:05,910
♪ Loved? ♪
1614
01:32:21,408 --> 01:32:24,135
♪ Where have you gone? ♪
1615
01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:26,897
♪ My darling one ♪
1616
01:32:27,276 --> 01:32:29,865
♪ Are you on your own? ♪
1617
01:32:30,383 --> 01:32:32,868
♪ Are you having fun? ♪
1618
01:32:33,213 --> 01:32:36,147
♪ Is there someone to hold ♪
1619
01:32:36,354 --> 01:32:39,116
♪ When you need it bad? ♪
1620
01:32:39,357 --> 01:32:42,222
♪ Is it controlled? ♪
1621
01:32:42,637 --> 01:32:47,676
♪ Like the love we had? ♪
1622
01:32:48,781 --> 01:32:51,059
♪ Does the day go by ♪
1623
01:32:51,749 --> 01:32:54,062
♪ Like a memory? ♪
1624
01:32:54,787 --> 01:32:57,617
♪ Do you ever try ♪
1625
01:32:57,652 --> 01:33:00,275
♪ To remember me? ♪
1626
01:33:00,862 --> 01:33:03,830
♪ In an automobile ♪
1627
01:33:03,865 --> 01:33:06,350
♪ Or a crowded bar ♪
1628
01:33:06,902 --> 01:33:09,387
♪ Well I hope
You're all right ♪
1629
01:33:09,974 --> 01:33:14,772
♪ Wherever you are ♪
1630
01:33:15,704 --> 01:33:20,191
♪ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ♪
1631
01:33:20,916 --> 01:33:24,368
♪ Over some radio ♪
1632
01:33:24,782 --> 01:33:27,820
♪ I just want you to know ♪
1633
01:33:27,854 --> 01:33:32,169
♪ You were always
My only choice ♪
1634
01:33:33,964 --> 01:33:36,622
♪ And wherever you go ♪
1635
01:33:36,898 --> 01:33:39,935
♪ That I still love you so ♪
1636
01:33:39,970 --> 01:33:44,837
♪ If you're still within
The sound of my voice ♪
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