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Hi there, welcome to the show still stuck In this blank void, TV's greatest
celebration of white emptiness since Emily in Paris.
Look, it's been an unpleasant week from New York Governor Andrew Cuomo admitting
to withholding information about COVID deaths in nursing homes, to the release
of grim unemployment numbers, to the death of Rush Limbaugh. So, you know,
eh. But we are gonna start tonight with this.
Nationwide misery, nasty weather pummeling the entire country.
More than 200 million Americans on alert coast to coast.
Snow and ice sending big rigs out of control on the roads.
In Nashville, home security video captures a truck sliding sideways down a
residential street.
Wow. I know that truck is slow-motion Tokyo drifting because the road is icy,
but I also like to think that it just had enough.
and is peacing out there. Don, Cheryl, you've been perfectly fine owners, but
there has got to be more to life than this. So, frankly, I'm out of here. This
neighborhood sucks.
Now, severe winter weather caused chaos across the country this week, and
nowhere more so than Texas.
Day five of the power crisis in Texas. Day five.
Now, we could tell you how cold it is, but maybe these stunning images tell the
story better. Burst pipes caused icicles on this ceiling fan.
Look at this. Yep, that's ice coming out of this bathroom faucet.
And check out this car wash in Austin.
The person who posted this picture summed it up pretty well, saying, guess
I'll wait till next week. Yeah.
Maybe do that. Maybe wait until your car wash stops looking like a middle school
went over budget on their production of Frozen.
You probably shouldn't be driving into something that looks like the asshole of
Sully from Monsters, Inc.
Now, Texas saw a full-blown humanitarian crisis this week, with many losing
electricity and access to clean water, hospitals having to evacuate patients,
and dozens of deaths. And if you watched Fox News, there was one culprit for all
of this, green energy, because multiple hosts placed the blame firmly on frozen
wind turbines. and none more loudly than this guy.
The windmills failed like the silly fashion accessories they are, and people
in Texas died.
Green energy means a less reliable power grid, period.
It means failures like the ones we're seeing now in Texas.
That's not a talking point. It's not a political slogan. We're not taking money
from ExxonMobil to say it.
Again, that is true.
It's science.
Okay. First, we know Exxon Mobil's not paying you. Almost no one is. Your
show's lost so many advertisers, you're basically being bankrolled by a man in a
sexual relationship with a pillow.
Second, just because you loudly insist something is science doesn't make it
science. That's science.
And finally, calling windmills silly fashion accessories is just absurd. The
only time you could conceivably make that claim was when the Bachelor
contestant, D'Andra, dressed up as a windmill for her night one entrance in a
clear allusion to Peter and Hannah's fantasy suite fuckfest. And even then,
it's not silly, it's horny.
Those windmill claims were even repeated by Texas Governor Greg Abbott, who told
Sean Hannity this shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal. But he
knows that's horse shit.
Texas only relies on wind power for about 25% of its electricity.
The vast majority comes from thermal heat sources like natural gas, coal, and
nuclear. And all of those were utterly hobbled by the cold this week. Even if
every wind turbine in Texas had kept spinning, the state still would have
been in deep shit.
And... There were some uniquely Texan issues at work here that made this the
calamity it was, starting with this.
Most of Texas runs on its own power grid separate from the rest of the country.
State leaders designed it this way to avoid federal regulation.
Yeah. It's true. Texas is the only state in the lower 48 not on the federal power
grid. And sometimes, when you're the only one doing something, you're a
pioneer. But sometimes, you might be an idiot. If you're the only person trying
to set the world record for being covered in the most bees, maybe ask
yourself, what am I trying to prove here exactly?
Why am I like this?
because that independence meant that Texas was limited in its ability to
import energy from neighboring states. And it also meant there was significant
pressure on ERCOT, the company that manages the state's grid. ERCOT
scrambled to meet surging demands and have since admitted that Texas was
seconds and minutes away from catastrophic month-long blackouts, which
is a big shift from how they were talking last weekend when they were
having fun tweeting out passive-aggressive energy-saving hints
like, unplug the fancy new appliances you bought during the pandemic and only
you... And I'm sorry, but a KitchenAid Artisan Design Series 5 quart tilt head
stand mixer with glass bowl is not just a fancy appliance.
It's got ten speeds and comes with a beater, dough hook, and a wire whisk. No
one's using that once. Your children are gonna be fighting over that when you
die. Also, not to be a total bitch here, but who took that photo?
The framing's trash.
You can barely see the plug. It looks like Martha Stewart's social media
before she hired a food stylist. And yeah, we remember those days, Martha.
Your shit...
was vile back then.
The point is, ERCOT was not prepared for this storm. But they also weren't alone
in that. Because while ERCOT manages the grid, it doesn't actually manage the
power companies that supply it. So it could not compel companies to winterize
facilities so they wouldn't go down during a storm. The state had left that
choice up to power companies, many of which opted against the upgrades because
they were expensive.
And while this storm was unusually strong, it also wasn't unprecedented.
Ten years ago, Texas was hit with a storm that... to paralyze the state,
after which federal regulators warned their power plants needed to winterize
to prevent this from happening again. And state officials knew full well what
might happen if they didn't act.
We got to learn from it and make sure that when this happens again, whether
it's one year from now, ten years from now, we do not have this happen again.
There's really no excuse, in my humble opinion.
that a facility should go off when you know it's gonna freeze a week out.
That hearing was ten years to the day before this storm hit, so Texas had a
decade to prepare, and it just didn't. And you can get a lot done in ten years.
Look at Beyoncé.
In the last decade, she announced she was pregnant in the coolest way
possible, performed at two Super Bowl halftimes, watched salons kick the shit
out of her husband, and then made a whole album about it, invented the color
yellow, and founded the Coachella Music Festival, and was in a film with the
world's greatest actor.
She got a lot done.
She probably could have winterized Texas' power plants as well if anyone
had just thought to ask her.
So much of the problems this week stem from Texas' state philosophy of every
man for himself.
And that attitude has defined the response from their officials, too. One
mayor even posted,
Are your family anything?
Nor is it the local government's responsibility to support you during
trying times like this. The backlash to that was so ferocious, he had to resign.
And then, there was the saga of Ted fucking Cruz.
He fled the state on Wednesday and took his family to Cancun.
And when photos of him on the plane emerged, he came back the next day,
initially implying that his plan had always been to just drop his family off
and then come back, a claim that never really rang true considering he'd packed
this suitcase. Sure enough, he eventually admitted that he planned to
stay the whole time and blamed his preteen daughters for the trip, saying
that they had asked him to go and... Because the first rule of fatherhood is
throw your daughters under the bus at the first opportunity.
But eventually, we did get the full story of how the trip happened in
spectacular fashion, as Heidi Kruse's group chat with her friends and
neighbors leaked.
Mrs. Cruz telling friends her house was freezing, proposing a vacation until
Sunday, and inviting others to join the cruises at the Ritz-Carlton in Cancun,
where they'd stayed before.
She floated a direct flight, and hotels with capacity, seriously.
I mean, that's just incredible.
Ted Cruz, who, remember, wants to be president, told the world he was bullied
into international travel by tweens, then got cyber-bullied into coming home
by the Internet, leaving his wife to solo-parent two kids on vacation in
another country while trying to figure out who in her mom group doxxed her.
It's all amazing.
But maybe the ultimate example of self-defeating Texan swagger this week
actually came from former governor and U.S. Secretary of Energy, Rick Perry.
Perry suggests that Texans prefer blackouts to federal regulation.
He said, quote, Texans would be without electricity for longer than three days
to keep the federal government out of their business.
Oh, fuck off, Rick Perry.
Look, far be it from me to question the wisdom of a man who failed running for
president twice and who came in 12th on Dancing with the Stars, meaning he lost
to Mitt Romney, Donald Trump, and Vanilla Ice.
But as easy as it is to venerate sacrifice, the thing about sacrifice is
people have to choose to do it.
And the people of Texas didn't choose to lose power, heat, and water for days
this week. This mess only happened because those in charge didn't implement
critical lessons from ten years ago. And while I would like to think that they
will learn lessons from this week, remember who you're dealing with here.
And right now, thousands of Texans are still struggling. If you want to help,
Feeding Texas is doing great work down there. And the people of that state do
need help. They deserve it. Just as they deserve better than a pat on the back
for their fortitude and independence as they shiver to death. And
representatives who fuck off to Mexico at the first sign of danger. And look...
If you think that's unfair, Ted, do let me know, but don't bother calling to
tell me. Just have Heidi text it to one of her friends. I'm sure it'll get back
to me eventually.
And now, this.
And now, people who went to Harvard.
Well, I don't hold myself out as some kind of genius, but I went to Harvard.
Look, I went to Harvard. I went to Harvard in the mid-90s. I went to
Harvard. I went to Harvard undergraduate.
And I should, I guess, declare something. I'm a Harvard graduate.
I went to Harvard Business School and got a degree.
That's right. Yeah. I went to Harvard Business School and worked at Goldman
Sachs. I went to Harvard Business School and worked at Goldman Sachs. No, I went
to Harvard. Like I said, I went to Harvard. I went to Harvard.
But I got to tell you, I went to Harvard. And I went to Harvard. I'm
trained in economics. I went to Harvard. Who didn't? What would our troops carry?
Well, for example, at Harvard, I went to Harvard. I feel like what's interesting
about me is I went to Harvard Law School. You know, Erica, you know, I
went to Harvard Law School.
I did go to Harvard Law School. I went to Harvard Law School. I went to Harvard
Law School. Because I went to Harvard Law School, and I believe in numbers and
facts. That number is from Harvard University.
Tens of thousands of Americans a year.
I went to Harvard University.
Moving on.
For our main story tonight, we're gonna talk about a product that is wildly
popular in this country. But instead of telling you what it is, I'd rather show
you an ad for it. And I promise, if you have never seen this commercial before,
you will never guess what it's for.
Mom, I think Trippie's been drinking too much milk.
Sometimes you just don't feel like cooking. So I've come up with new Purdue
entrees. Fresh, complete entrees ready in under three minutes.
Well, that took a turn.
And what exactly does Jim Perdue think he's doing there? That family doesn't
need one of your shitty frozen meals. They need someone to expel the literal
devil from their demented guinea pig.
Perform an exorcism, Jim, or get the fuck out of their house.
The point is...
Our main story tonight concerns meat.
It's what I technically am to any animal above me on the food chain, like a bear,
or a tiger, or if we're being totally honest, a medium-aggressive pigeon.
And if you're thinking, okay, I know where this is going, this is gonna be a
grim story about the conditions animals face in factory farms, you're actually
wrong. Those conditions are horrific, but they do get talked about a lot. This
story is gonna be about the grim conditions humans are facing... working
in meatpacking facilities.
If you ate meat today, it probably went through one of them. And meatpacking is
a highly consolidated industry.
Roughly 85% of beef production in America is controlled by these four
companies. And more than half of the chicken industry is controlled by these
four. Their employees are extremely important to this country's food supply.
And to hear companies like Tyson tell it, they're important to them on a
personal level, too.
We've all got the same end goal in mind, protect our team members.
They're our most valuable asset. They are our family. I said earlier that
we're a food company, but we're a family. And that's genuinely how I feel
and how we operate.
Okay. If Tyson's workers are their most valuable asset, then their workers are,
by definition, not family. Because let's be honest, nobody's family is their most
valuable asset. If you're gonna rank everything in life by how much you value
it, it goes, number one, your phone. Number two, food, water, and shelter.
Number three, Judi Dench. She's a fucking treasure.
And then, and only then, your family. That's just an empirical fact.
But second, it's a little hard to take Tyson's workers are our family talk,
given this.
Stunning allegations made against managers at this Tyson pork processing
plant in Waterloo, Iowa, one of the first to shut down when the coronavirus
raged uncontrollably in the spring.
A supervisor allegedly taking bets on how many would catch the virus.
According to the allegations, the plant manager of the Waterloo facility
organized a cash buy-in, winner-take-all betting pool for supervisors and
managers to wager how many employees would test positive for COVID-19.
Holy shit.
That betting pool might be the most disgusting thing ever created in a Tyson
factory, which is frankly saying something, given that Tyson also makes
ranch-flavored chicken chips, a snack one customer reviewed online with a
note, disgusting, I gagged in front of my child.
That review is on Tyson's actual website.
Now, Tyson fired seven managers at that plant after that incident, but it does
speak to a larger problem in this industry, because while companies have
put out endless press statements about the expense they've gone to to protect
their workers... during this pandemic.
Workers themselves dispute those claims heavily, and they've been hit hard.
As of February 18th, at least 57,000 meatpacking workers have contracted the
virus, and at least 280 have died.
But the broader truth is that the treatment of workers in this industry
has been very bad for a very long time. So tonight, let's look at them. And
let's start with how plants operate.
Most feature a series of long conveyor belts with workers packed closely along
the line, chopping... de-boning or trimming fat, often at breakneck speed.
Maximum allowable line speeds in poultry have actually doubled since 1979, with
workers reporting averaging 35 to 45 birds per minute. That is less than two
seconds per bird. That's fast.
In the time it's taken me to explain line speeds to you, a plant could have
processed five whole birds. And look.
There's plenty of activities that should only take two seconds, checking the
time, clearing your throat, determining the worth of a total stranger by how
much you want to fuck them. Hey!
Eh, I get it.
But safely butchering a chicken probably shouldn't be one of them. And thanks to
this relentless pace, meatpacking workers have reported it can be hard to
take a break, even to go to the bathroom, which may explain stories like
this. This is security camera video given to our sister station from the
Smithfield production line in Virginia.
In the video, you see the employee in front take off his gloves.
Company officials confirm the man relieves himself under the production
line, then puts his gloves back on and continues to work. The worker at the
center of all this has been suspended pending the outcome of the
investigation. That is disgusting.
Well, yeah.
It is. The combination of urine and pork is a bit upsetting.
It's one of the many reasons I have no interest in seeing Miss Piggy's sex
tape. But it is not just that that man urinated under the production line, it's
that he was put in a position where he may have felt like he had to. That is
actually a problem across the meatpacking industry.
Oxfam released a report detailing exactly how grim conditions can be for
poultry workers, with one detail in particular that hit this local Michigan
talk show hard.
Poultry industry workers are put through such extremes that they're denied
bathroom breaks, many wearing diapers during their work day. Oh my goodness!
I know that people need jobs and they need to be employed, but to have to
stand in your own stuff while you're working? My mind is racing while you're
sharing those details and thinking, surely this is not in our country.
Okay, I get the shock there, I really do, but the thing is... This is totally
our country. We live in a nation where hundreds of thousands of homeless sleep
on the streets, people have to launch GoFundMe campaigns for medical
treatment, and where George Zimmerman can auction off the gun he used to kill
Trayvon Martin, a horrific story which, by the way, your show actually covered
in the segment directly before that one. So you guys have been doing a pretty
good job of showing how fucked up this country can be.
And it's not just bathroom break issues.
Meatpacking has some of the highest rates of occupational injury and illness
in the country. In fact, in a recent three-year period, a worker in the meat
and poultry industry lost a body part or was sent to the hospital for inpatient
treatment about every other day.
And a lot of this is down to dangerous working conditions.
Plants are so crowded, a common injury is a cut from your neighbor's knife.
And those rapid line speeds can exacerbate other problems, such as
repetitive stress injuries like carpal tunnel syndrome, all of which can leave
workers feeling pretty disposable.
I mean, you got 2,000 hogs an hour going through.
You're covered with blood, feces, urine.
It's easy to get hurt down there.
You're doing that same movement for that same piece of the hog.
Look, that is clearly terrible.
Nobody should be treated like a machine.
Unless, of course, it is a fun machine like an immersion blender.
I'd love to be treated like an immersion blender.
You want me to stay in a comfy drawer most of the day and then occasionally
come out to robot fucker soup?
Yes, please!
Look, at this point, you might be wondering, how do companies get away
with treating their workers like this? Well...
Many strategically locate their plants in areas with few other job
opportunities and target vulnerable groups like former prisoners, refugees,
and especially immigrants for hiring.
Roughly 175,000 immigrants work in meatpacking jobs in America, and they
understandably may be warier about complaining to authorities about
mistreatment. So, many workers are already operating at a deep
disadvantage, on top of which, companies have been able to minimize
accountability by gaming the system. For instance, they are required... to report
serious injuries to the government's worker protection agency, OSHA. But
there's a simple way around that, because you actually don't have to
report those injuries if treatment stays at a first aid level. So...
What do you think happens?
Well, as a GAO report found, plants simply offer first aid treatments on
-site rather than refer workers to a doctor. That same report found even
workers with severe injuries like fractures weren't sent to doctors, with
one worker who developed a musculoskeletal disorder, making over 90
visits to the company's nurse before being referred to a physician.
And the workers know the game that is being played here.
There's a nurse.
But she doesn't do anything for you. For example, when our arms hurt, all she did
was apply Bengay ointment and send us on our way. It's not even worth going.
I needed to see a doctor, but they refused me.
And I asked, I told them, well, can I go down to see my own orthopedics, my own
specialist, my own doctor? And they said, if you do that, we're going to
fire you.
Look, there are lots of good reasons to fire someone.
Frequent absences, poor quality of work.
because they get a little racist-y on Ambien. But wanting to see a doctor
really should not be one of them. And it's worth noting, if you do... have a
severe injury, it can be very hard to get relief.
In theory, you could apply for workers' compensation, programs under which
injured workers lose their ability to sue, but in exchange, can get money to
cover medical treatment and lost wages.
The thing is, those programs are run at the state level and paid into by
companies who've lobbied hard both to hollow those benefits out and make them
harder to get. Just before Texas overhauled its workers' comp system back
in 1989, one paltry CEO, Beau Pilgrim...
tried to personally influence proceedings in a pretty blatant way.
Senator Bob Glasgow of Stephenville says he's never been offered a blank $10,000
check. Not until East Texas Chicken King Bo Pilgrim strutted onto the Senate
floor Wednesday.
Senator Hugh Palmer of Fort Worth says Pilgrim then slipped him either a bribe
or an illegal campaign contribution.
Well, I didn't think he was trying to give me a Christmas present, I'll tell
you that.
Yeah. Of course he wasn't, because Christmas presents aren't typically used
as bribes. That is, unless you're a child of divorce.
Here it is, Billy, a full-size motorcycle, just like you asked for. I
think you should have it, and if your mother doesn't, well, that is on her.
She's a difficult woman, Billy.
And look, just a quick word about Bo Pilgrim here.
He co-founded a company called Pilgrim's Pride, and blank checks to legislators
aren't even the most shameless thing he spent money on during his life. Among
other things, he had this 37-foot bust of his head installed next to one of his
distribution centers, and added this second statue underneath it depicting
him reading a Bible to his pet chicken, Henrietta.
He also built this hellacious mansion which locals referred to as Cluckingham
Palace, and which included, among other atrocities, this absolute nightmare of a
bathroom that fittingly has the exact color scheme of a raw chicken breast,
and this nauseating foyer featuring a painting of what appears to be two
peacocks fucking above some chickens while a perverted owl... just watches.
And it wasn't just Beau Pilgrim fighting workers' complores. Tyson.
has taken a lead in pushing for changes in workers' comp in state after state,
which have made it harder for workers hurt on the job to receive payments. In
fact, in Texas, it is now possible for companies to opt out of paying into
workers' comp entirely and essentially write their own rules for how much
workers get for their injuries.
Tyson does exactly that.
And when workers get injured in their plants there, in order to get medical
care from the company, they must first sign a document saying they voluntarily
release, waive, and forever give up claims arising from their injuries. Now,
could you not sign that? Sure.
But then, your best bet to pay for medical coverage is to sue the company,
and that could take fucking years.
And while Texas does now have a law giving workers ten days to consider
signing the waiver, before then... they could actually be pressured on the spot
at another company. An employee who'd had both of his hands crushed was
persuaded to sign a waiver with a pen held in his teeth.
And look, I know that this all sounds very bad.
And it does imply that companies like Tyson don't care about the physical well
-being of their workers. But that's actually not true because they do seem
to care very much about the physical well-being of some of their workers.
Employees at Tyson Fresh Meats Corporate Offices in Dakota Dunes are getting out
from behind their desks. Alright, looks good guys.
And into a healthy routine.
Every Tuesday and Thursday we offer an on-site fitness class for any employee
who wants to come.
We focused on stretching at your desk.
A lot of us sit at our desk a lot of times. So even just getting up and
stretching, just that little bit of movement throughout the day helps too.
We had a workshop on meditation last week and it was pretty good clearing
your mind and relaxing.
You know what?
It's true.
Meditation is great for clearing your mind. You just have to sit still, focus
on your breath, and try not to think about the local camera crew that's
filming a piece about your corporate office culture that will one day be
uncomfortably juxtaposed with how appallingly your company treats workers
in its factories. Now, are those thoughts going to creep into your mind?
Sure, but just acknowledge them and return to your breath.
Namaste.
Now, clearly, the contrast between Tyson's corporate offices and their
plants is stark. Almost as stark as the disparity between their salaried
workers, over 73% of whom are white, and their hourly workers, over 68% of whom
are Black, Asian, or Latino.
It's just a fun fact I'm throwing in there for no particular reason.
Now, ideally, you would want the government to step in and remedy some of
what you've seen.
Unfortunately... OSHA is woefully understaffed. As of last April, its
number of inspectors had dropped to a 45-year low. In fact, at current
staffing levels, it would take OSHA 165 years to inspect every workplace under
its jurisdiction.
And even on the rare occasions that inspectors do get to visit the plants,
the limits to what they're allowed to do once they're in there can be genuinely
ridiculous.
In the southeast, where a huge proportion of the poultry industry
resides, there is actually a lawsuit that has successfully prevented ocean
inspectors from doing broader searches in poultry factories, even when they
know workers are getting seriously injured.
In one case, an inspector was told to put a box over her head so she wouldn't
see any safety hazards in the plant if she wanted to walk through the plant. to
investigate a fire.
Okay. Not to state the obvious here, but put a box on your head is not an
instruction you give when everything is up to code. It's just inherently
suspicious. Right this way, Inspector.
Now, if you'll also just please plug your nose and spin around three times,
we can begin the tour.
And even when OSHA fines violations, their power to do anything is incredibly
weak. In 2019, the average fine for a serious safety violation, a hazard where
there is a substantial probability of death or serious physical harm, was just
over $3,700.
Meaning, it can genuinely be cheaper for companies to run an unsafe plant and
occasionally pay those fines than for them to provide a safe work environment.
And all of this came to a head last year when the pandemic hit.
Companies corporate workers immediately worked from home because it wasn't safe
for them to be in the office, but the plants were kept open despite the fact,
as you have seen, it's nearly impossible to socially distance on a line. And when
workers, entirely predictably, then started dying, the federal response was
characteristically weak. After six workers from a JBS plant in Colorado
died from COVID, the company's total fine was just $15,000.
And for the family of Saul Sanchez, one of those workers that understandably
didn't sit well.
Saul Sanchez worked for the company for nearly three decades and never called in
sick a single time. He was the first JBS worker to die of COVID-19, and his
family says his funeral costs more than the fine this company's now facing.
It's a huge slap on the face. And they bring in over $50 billion a year and
they get slapped with $15,000.
That's what enables these companies to not care for their employees. Yeah,
exactly.
That fine amounts to .00003% of JBS's profits last year. And if you
fine a company a fraction of a percent of their profits, don't be surprised
when they carry on only giving a fraction of a fuck about the welfare of
their workers.
Now, legally, I have to tell you... Now, JBS claims that that fine and the
government's finding that they failed to protect their employees from exposure to
COVID is entirely without merit. Not only that, they are even fighting the
claims for workers' comp survivor benefits from Saul Sanchez's widow and
others who've lost loved ones. Their argument being that the COVID infections
were not worker-related.
Although, to be honest, that's a hard argument for them to land, given that
the outbreak got so bad there, at one point, they had to shut the fucking
plant down.
What can we do here? Well, at least for the duration of the pandemic, OSHA
should implement a federal emergency workplace standard, giving meatpacking
workers the right to social distancing and other protections.
Longer term, that agency needs to be rebuilt and strengthened, and it can't
stop there. The USDA should do more to ensure lines move at safe speeds, and
when it comes to workers' comp, we should be setting a baseline for what
states have to offer, because otherwise, the race to the bottom will just
continue, and all of this has to be done...
quickly, because things are critical right now. Remember that Tyson plant
with the winner-take-all betting pool? As of mid-December, more than 1,500
employees there contracted the virus, and eight died.
So if Tyson truly is a family like they love to claim, it does seem to be a
pretty fucking dysfunctional one.
And when you take all of this together, the diapers, the endless trips to the
nursing station, the injuries and the deaths, you frankly only need to take a
peek inside the way this industry currently operates to draw a pretty
simple conclusion.
That is disgusting.
Yeah, it is.
It really is.
And now, this.
And now, working remotely sucks for the People's Court, too.
We here at the People's Court are practicing social distancing.
So we will be adjudicating cases right here from our very own virtual
courtroom. Gentlemen, can you hear me?
Okay. Mr. Glenn, there's no smoking in court.
I didn't realize you could see.
I don't know why. I'm sorry. Can I just ask you the stuffed animal that's in
your hand?
Oh, I'll put it down. It belongs to my nephew.
The end table is the one that had the, you know, I can see you, right? When you
roll your eyes at me.
Mm-hmm.
Stop it. Please bring it very close to me so that I can read it because the
picture you submitted into evidence... Okay.
Oh, boy, the battery's going low. Take a second and put a charger. I don't want
to end up losing your testimony.
I can do it, but I would have to go into the kitchen.
Okay. I think it's in my dog room.
You want to see my dogs?
No, I just want to see the table. Is there some problem, gentlemen?
Can you lift your head?
Why don't you leave your hand at your earphone?
Okay. Well, you can't leave both hands, because I need one hand to bring that up
to the camera so that I can read it.
Okay.
That's our show. Thank you so much for watching. We'll see you next week. Good
night.
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