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You did a wonderful job. Wonderful.
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You did it. You did it!
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To continue, you've listened to a long and
complex case, murder in the first degree.
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Premeditated murder is the most serious
charge tried in our criminal courts.
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You've listened to the testimony, had the
law interpreted as it applies in this case.
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It's now your duty to sit down and try
and separate the facts from the fancy.
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One man is dead.
Another man's life is at stake.
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If there's a reasonable doubt in your
minds as to the guilt of the accused -
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a reasonable doubt-then you must
bring me a verdict of not guilty.
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If there's no reasonable doubt,
then you must, in good conscience,
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find the accused guilty.
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However you decide,
your verdict must be unanimous.
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In the event that
you find the accused guilty,
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the bench will not entertain
a recommendation for mercy.
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The death sentence is mandatory
in this case.
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You are faced with a grave responsibility.
Thank you, gentlemen.
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The alternate jurors are excused.
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The jury will now retire.
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- Wanna piece of gum?
- No, thanks.
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This thing isn't movin'.
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- I'll give you a hand.
- That's it.
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You know somethin'? I called
the Weather Bureau this morning.
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This is gonna be
the hottest day of the year.
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You'd think they'd air-condition this place.
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- What is your name, sir?
- Oh, it's... that one. Yeah.
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Thank you very much.
OK, gentlemen. Everybody's here.
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Now, if there's anything you want,
I'll be right outside the door. Just knock.
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Good morning.
I never knew they locked the door.
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Sure they lock the door.
What'd you think?
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I don't know. It just never occurred to me.
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- What's that for?
- I thought we might wanna vote by ballot.
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Great idea. Maybe we can
get him elected senator.
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- How'd you like it?
- I don't know. It was pretty interesting.
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- Yeah? I almost fell asleep.
- I mean, I've never been on a jury before.
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No? I've sat on many juries.
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Those lawyers talk and talk, even when
it's an open-and-shut case like this one.
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- Ever hear so much talk about nothin'?
- I guess they're entitled.
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They're entitled. It's the system, but...
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if you ask me, I'd slap those tough kids
down before they start any trouble.
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It saves a lot of time and money.
Let's get started.
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Yeah. We've probably all
got things to do here.
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We can start with a five-minute break.
One gentleman is in the bathroom.
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Are... we gonna sit in order?
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Gee, I don't know. I guess so.
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- Buddy, you're in my seat.
- Oh, excuse me.
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That's all right.
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Hey, that's not a bad view, huh?
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What did you think of the case?
I mean, it had a lot of interest for me.
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No real... dead spots.
You know what I mean?
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We were lucky to get a murder case.
I figured us for an assault or burglary.
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Boy, they can be the dullest!
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- Hey, is that the Woolworth Building?
- That's right.
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Isn't that funny? I've lived here all my life.
I've never been inside it.
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If you had to sort out all that junk,
like that thing with the movies.
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Yeah. What about
that business with the knife?
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Asking grown-up people
to believe that kind of jazz.
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You expect that.
You know what we're dealing with.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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Well, your horn works.
Now try your lights.
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- You got a cold?
- And how. Hot-weather colds can kill you.
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I can hardly touch my nose.
Know what I mean?
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Sure do. I just got over one.
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- Oh, come on! Mr Foreman, let's go.
- The guy's still in the bathroom.
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What's new? I didn't get a chance
to see a paper this morning.
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I was only wondering
how the market closed.
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- You got a seat on the exchange?
- I'm a broker.
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I run a messenger service.
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The Beck and Call Company.
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The name is my wife's idea.
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Got 37 men workin'. Started with nothin'.
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OK, men. Let's take our seats, huh?
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We can all get out of here pretty quick.
I have tickets to that ball game tonight.
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Yanks and Cleveland. We've got
this kid Modjelewski in there.
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He's a real bull, this kid. You know...
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Real jug-handled. You know?
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You're a real baseball fan, aren't ya?
Where do we sit here?
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I thought we'd sit in order,
by jury numbers.
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One, two, three and so on around the
table, if that's OK with you gentlemen.
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- What's the difference?
- It's reasonable to sit in order.
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- Let it be.
- That's twelve. We go around one, two...
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What was your impression
of the prosecuting attorney?
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- I beg pardon?
- I thought he was really sharp,
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the way he handled all those points
one by one, in logical sequence.
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- I was very impressed.
- I think he... he did an expert job.
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A lot of drive, too. You know? Real drive.
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OK, fellas. Can we
hold it down a minute? Fellas?
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Say, we'd like to get started.
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Gentleman at the window.
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- We'd like to get started.
- Oh, I'm sorry.
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- The kid kills his father, just like that.
- Listen, it happens all the time.
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They let those kids run wild up there.
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Well, maybe it serves him right.
You know what I mean?
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- Is everyone here?
- The old man is inside.
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- Would you knock on the door for him?
- Yeah.
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- Are you a Yankee fan?
- No, Baltimore.
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Baltimore?
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That's like being hit in the head
with a crowbar once a day.
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Who have they got? Who have they got
besides good groundkeepers?
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- Say, we'd like to get started.
- Forgive me, gentlemen.
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- I didn't mean to keep you waiting.
- Baltimore?
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OK, if I can have your attention. You fellas
can handle this thing any way you want.
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I'm... you know,
I'm not gonna make any rules.
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We can, well, discuss it first, then vote
on it. That's, of course... that's one way.
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And, well, we can vote on it right now.
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I think it's customary
to take a preliminary vote.
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Yeah, let's vote. Who knows?
Maybe we can all get outta here.
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OK. Then I think that you know that we
have a first-degree murder charge here,
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and if we vote the accused guilty,
we've got to send him to the chair.
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Um... That's mandatory.
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- I think we know that.
- Yeah, let's see who's where.
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- OK. Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
- It's fine with me.
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OK, then, just remember that this
has to be twelve to nothing, either way.
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That's the law. OK, are we ready?
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All those voting guilty,
please raise your hands.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seven...
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eight, nine, ten, eleven.
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OK, that's eleven guilty.
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Those voting not guilty?
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One. Right.
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Eleven guilty, one not guilty.
Well, now we know where we are.
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Boy, oh boy! There's always one.
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So, what do we do now?
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- I guess we talk.
- Boy, oh boy!
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You really think he's innocent?
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- I don't know.
- You sat in court with the rest of us.
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You heard what we did.
The kid's a dangerous killer.
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- He's 18 years old.
- Well, that's old enough.
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He stabbed his own father
four inches into the chest.
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They proved it
a dozen different ways in court.
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- Would you like me to list 'em for you?
- No.
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- Then what do you want?
- I just want to talk.
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What's there to talk about?
Eleven of us think he's guilty.
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No one had to think about it twice
except you.
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I want to ask you something.
Do you believe his story?
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- I don't know. Maybe I don't.
- So how come you voted not guilty?
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There were eleven votes for guilty.
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It's not easy to raise my hand and send a
boy off to die without talking about it first.
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- Well, now, who says it's easy?
- No one.
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What? Just because I voted fast?
I honestly think the guy is guilty.
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Couldn't change my mind
if you talked for 100 years.
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I'm not trying to change your mind.
It's just that...
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This is somebody's life.
We can't decide in five minutes.
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- Supposing we're wrong?
- Supposing this building fell on my head?
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- You can suppose anything.
- That's right.
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What's the difference how long it takes?
Supposin' we take five minutes? So what?
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Let's take an hour. The ball game
doesn't start till eight o'clock.
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- Who's got something to say?
- I'm willing to sit for an hour.
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- Great. I heard a good story last night...
- That's not why we're sitting here.
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All right, then you tell me.
What are we sitting here for?
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I don't know. Maybe no reason.
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Look, this kid's been
kicked around all of his life.
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You know, born in a slum,
mother dead since he was nine.
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He lived for a year and a half
in an orphanage
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when his father was serving
a jail term for forgery.
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That's not a very happy beginning.
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He's a wild, angry kid. That's all
he's ever been. And you know why?
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Cos he's been hit on the head
by somebody once a day, every day.
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He's had a pretty miserable 18 years.
I think we owe him a few words, that's all.
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I don't mind telling you this, mister. We
don't owe him a thing. He got a fair trial.
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What do you think that trial cost?
He's lucky he got it. Know what I mean?
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Look, we're all grown-ups in here.
We heard the facts, didn't we?
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You're not gonna tell me we're supposed
to believe this kid, knowing what he is.
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I've lived among them all my life.
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You can't believe a word they say.
You know that. I mean, they're born liars.
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- Only an ignorant man can believe that.
- Now, listen...
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Do you think you were born
with a monopoly on the truth?
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Certain things should be
pointed out to this man.
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- It's not Sunday. We don't need a sermon.
- We have a job to do. Now let's do it.
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Rice Pops. It's a product
I work on at the agency.
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"The breakfast with the built-in bounce."
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- I wrote that line.
- Very catchy.
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- Say, do you mind?
- I'm sorry. I have this habit of doodling.
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- It keeps me thinking clearly.
- We have work to do.
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There's no point
staying here for ever. OK.
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Perhaps if the gentleman down there who
is disagreeing with us could tell us why.
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Tell us what you're thinking. We might be
able to show you where you're mixed up.
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Maybe this is an idea. It seems to me that
it's up to us to convince this gentleman
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that he's wrong and we're right. Maybe if
we each took a couple of minutes just to...
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- Well, it was just a quick idea.
- No, no, no. That's a good one.
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Supposing we go once around the table?
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I guess you're first.
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It's hard to put into words.
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I just think he's guilty.
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I thought it was obvious from the word go.
Nobody proved otherwise.
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Nobody has to prove otherwise.
The burden of proof's on the prosecution.
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The defendant doesn't even have to open
his mouth. That's in the Constitution.
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Sure, I know that. What I meant was...
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Well... I just think he's guilty.
I mean, somebody saw him do it.
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OK. Here's what I think. And I have
no personal feelings about this.
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I just wanna talk about facts.
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Number one.
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The old man lived downstairs under
the room where the killing took place.
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At 10 minutes after 12 on the night
of the killing, he heard loud noises.
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Said it sounded like a fight.
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And he heard the kid yell out
"I'm gonna kill ya."
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A second later,
he heard a body hit the floor.
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Ran to the door, opened it up, saw the kid
run down the stairs and out of the house.
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Called the police. They found the old man
with the knife in his chest.
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The coroner fixed the time of death
around midnight.
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Now, these are facts.
You can't refute facts. The kid is guilty.
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I'm just as sentimental as the next fella.
I know he's only 18.
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- But he's still gotta pay for what he did.
- I'm with you.
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- OK. Are you finished?
- Yeah.
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It is obvious to me that
the boy's entire story was flimsy.
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He claimed he was at the movies,
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yet he couldn't remember the names
of the films he saw or who played in them.
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- That's right.
- And no one saw him at the theatre.
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And the woman across the street-if her
testimony don't prove it, nothing does.
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- That's right. She actually saw the killing.
- Fellas, please. Let's go in order.
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Just a minute. Here's a woman...
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Here's a woman who's lying in bed.
She can't sleep. She's dyin' with the heat.
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She looks out the window,
and right across the street
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she sees the kid stick the knife
into his father.
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The time is 12.10 on the nose.
Everything fits.
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She's known the kid all his life.
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His window is opposite hers across the
el tracks. She swore she saw him do it.
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Through the windows
of a passing el train.
218
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This el train had no passengers on it.
It was just being moved downtown.
219
00:18:12,674 --> 00:18:16,009
The lights were out,
and they proved in court that at night
220
00:18:16,094 --> 00:18:19,927
you can look through the windows and
see what's happening on the other side.
221
00:18:20,016 --> 00:18:23,183
- They proved it.
- I'd like to ask you something.
222
00:18:23,269 --> 00:18:26,189
You don't believe the boy.
How come you believe the woman?
223
00:18:26,274 --> 00:18:29,525
She's one of "them" too, isn't she?
224
00:18:30,654 --> 00:18:34,570
- You're a pretty smart fella, aren't ya?
- OK, gentlemen. Now, gentlemen.
225
00:18:34,660 --> 00:18:38,954
- Come on, sit down. Sit down.
- What's he so wise about? I'm telling ya...
226
00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,327
Come on. Now we're not gonna
get anywhere fighting.
227
00:18:42,421 --> 00:18:46,669
- Whose turn is it next?
- Oh, his. Number five.
228
00:18:49,930 --> 00:18:52,505
May I... Can I pass?
229
00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,472
Well... That's your privilege.
230
00:18:55,562 --> 00:18:57,805
How about the next gentleman?
231
00:18:57,899 --> 00:19:00,473
Oh. Well... I don't know.
232
00:19:00,569 --> 00:19:05,231
I started to be convinced,
you know, very early in the case.
233
00:19:05,324 --> 00:19:08,529
You see, I was looking for a motive.
234
00:19:08,621 --> 00:19:14,163
That's very important because if you don't
have a motive, where's your case, right?
235
00:19:14,254 --> 00:19:20,008
Anyway, that testimony from those people
across the hall from the kid's apartment,
236
00:19:20,093 --> 00:19:25,517
that was very powerful. Didn't they say
something about a fight, an argument,
237
00:19:25,601 --> 00:19:29,897
between the old man and his son
around about seven o'clock that night?
238
00:19:29,982 --> 00:19:33,316
- I could be wrong but...
- It was eight o'clock, not seven.
239
00:19:33,402 --> 00:19:39,194
They heard an argument. Then
they heard the father hit the boy twice.
240
00:19:39,285 --> 00:19:43,534
Finally they saw the boy run, angry,
out of the house. What does that prove?
241
00:19:43,626 --> 00:19:46,627
It don't prove anything.
It's just part of the picture.
242
00:19:46,713 --> 00:19:49,880
You said it provided a motive.
So did the prosecution.
243
00:19:49,967 --> 00:19:52,089
That wasn't a very strong motive.
244
00:19:52,178 --> 00:19:56,093
This boy has been hit so many times
that violence is practically...
245
00:19:56,183 --> 00:19:58,510
It's a normal state of affairs with him.
246
00:19:58,602 --> 00:20:02,850
I just can't see two slaps in the face
provoking him into committing murder.
247
00:20:02,941 --> 00:20:07,485
It may have been two too many.
Everyone has a breaking point.
248
00:20:08,782 --> 00:20:11,072
Anything else?
249
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,531
- No.
- OK. How about you?
250
00:20:16,126 --> 00:20:19,543
I don't know. It's all been said.
251
00:20:19,631 --> 00:20:23,084
You can talk here for ever.
It's still the same thing.
252
00:20:23,469 --> 00:20:28,348
This kid is five for 0.
Well, look at his record.
253
00:20:28,436 --> 00:20:32,729
When he was 10, he was in children's
court: He threw a rock at a teacher.
254
00:20:32,815 --> 00:20:36,897
When he was 15, he was
in reform school: He stole a car.
255
00:20:36,988 --> 00:20:41,816
He's been arrested for muggin'.
He was picked up twice for knife fightin'.
256
00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:46,620
They say he's real handy with a knife.
Oh, this is a very fine boy.
257
00:20:46,708 --> 00:20:51,253
Ever since he was five, his father
beat him up regularly. He used his fists.
258
00:20:51,339 --> 00:20:53,832
So would I. A kid like that?
259
00:20:53,927 --> 00:20:57,261
It's these kids -
the way they are nowadays.
260
00:20:59,517 --> 00:21:03,218
When I was a kid,
I used to call my father "sir".
261
00:21:03,312 --> 00:21:06,480
That's right. Ever hear a kid
call his father that any more?
262
00:21:06,566 --> 00:21:09,937
Fathers don't seem to think
it's important any more.
263
00:21:10,030 --> 00:21:12,439
- You got any kids?
- Three.
264
00:21:13,493 --> 00:21:15,569
I got one.
265
00:21:16,496 --> 00:21:18,574
He's 22 years old.
266
00:21:24,257 --> 00:21:28,719
When he was nine years old,
he ran away from a fight.
267
00:21:28,805 --> 00:21:33,597
I saw it. I was so embarrassed,
I almost threw up.
268
00:21:33,686 --> 00:21:39,144
I said "I'm gonna make a man out of you
if I have to break you in two tryin'."
269
00:21:40,736 --> 00:21:43,442
Well, I made a man out of him.
270
00:21:43,531 --> 00:21:46,237
When he was 16, we had a fight.
271
00:21:47,495 --> 00:21:50,616
Hit me in the jaw. He was a big kid.
272
00:21:53,170 --> 00:21:56,125
I haven't seen him for two years.
273
00:21:58,552 --> 00:22:00,628
Kids.
274
00:22:01,055 --> 00:22:03,131
You work your heart out...
275
00:22:05,644 --> 00:22:09,180
- Well, let's get goin'.
- I think we're missing the point.
276
00:22:09,275 --> 00:22:12,940
This boy's the product of a broken home
and a filthy neighbourhood.
277
00:22:13,029 --> 00:22:16,529
We can't help that. We're here
to decide his innocence or guilt,
278
00:22:16,617 --> 00:22:19,572
not to go into the reasons
why he grew up the way he did.
279
00:22:19,663 --> 00:22:24,207
He was born in a slum.
Slums are breeding grounds for criminals.
280
00:22:24,293 --> 00:22:29,751
It's no secret that children from slums
are potential menaces to society. I think...
281
00:22:29,842 --> 00:22:34,056
You can say that again. The kids who
crawl out of these places are real trash.
282
00:22:34,140 --> 00:22:39,563
- I don't want any part of them.
- Listen, I... I've lived in a slum all my life.
283
00:22:39,647 --> 00:22:41,474
- Wait a minute.
- Please. I...
284
00:22:41,566 --> 00:22:44,520
I've played in back yards
that were filled with garbage.
285
00:22:44,611 --> 00:22:47,399
- Maybe you can still smell it on me.
- Listen, sonny...
286
00:22:47,490 --> 00:22:49,863
Come on, now. There's nothing personal.
287
00:22:49,951 --> 00:22:53,537
Come on, fella. He didn't mean you.
Let's not be so sensitive.
288
00:22:53,624 --> 00:22:56,330
This sensitivity I can understand.
289
00:22:56,419 --> 00:23:01,248
OK, look. Let's stop the arguing.
We're only wasting time.
290
00:23:01,341 --> 00:23:03,833
Your turn down there. Let's go.
291
00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:08,845
I didn't expect a turn. I thought
you were all gonna to try to convince me.
292
00:23:08,935 --> 00:23:11,143
- That was the idea.
- I forgot. He's right.
293
00:23:11,229 --> 00:23:14,562
He's the one keeping us in here.
Let's hear what he's got to say.
294
00:23:14,649 --> 00:23:18,519
Wait. We decided to do this a certain way.
I think we ought to stick to it.
295
00:23:18,614 --> 00:23:20,903
Oh, stop being a kid, will ya?
296
00:23:20,992 --> 00:23:25,656
- What do you mean, a kid?
- What do you think I mean? K-I-D: Kid.
297
00:23:28,127 --> 00:23:30,879
Just because I'm trying
to keep this organised?
298
00:23:30,963 --> 00:23:35,176
Here, you take on the responsibility.
I'll just keep my mouth shut.
299
00:23:35,261 --> 00:23:38,631
- Why are you gettin' so hot? Calm down.
- Don't tell me to calm down.
300
00:23:38,723 --> 00:23:41,097
You want to take the chair?
Take the chair.
301
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:43,559
Did you ever see such a thing?
302
00:23:43,647 --> 00:23:46,981
- You think it's funny?
- Forget it, fella. It's unimportant.
303
00:23:47,067 --> 00:23:48,977
Unimportant? Here, you try it.
304
00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:52,191
Nobody wants to change.
You're doing a beautiful job.
305
00:23:52,283 --> 00:23:57,909
Yeah, you're doin' great. Just great, fella.
You stay in there and pitch.
306
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,617
All right, let's hear from somebody.
307
00:24:01,712 --> 00:24:05,876
Well, if you want me to tell you
how I feel about it, it's all right with me.
308
00:24:05,967 --> 00:24:10,928
- Boy, I don't care what you do.
- All right. I don't have anything brilliant.
309
00:24:11,015 --> 00:24:13,176
I only know as much as you do.
310
00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:16,934
According to the testimony,
the boy looks guilty. Maybe he is.
311
00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:21,734
I sat there in court for six days
listening while the evidence built up.
312
00:24:21,822 --> 00:24:23,899
Everybody sounded so positive.
313
00:24:23,991 --> 00:24:28,903
I began to get a peculiar feeling about
this trial. I mean, nothing is that positive.
314
00:24:28,997 --> 00:24:33,412
There are questions I'd have liked to ask.
Maybe they wouldn't mean anything but...
315
00:24:33,504 --> 00:24:38,297
I felt that the defence wasn't conducting
a thorough enough cross-examination.
316
00:24:38,384 --> 00:24:41,303
He let too many things go by-little things.
317
00:24:41,389 --> 00:24:44,224
What little things?
When they don't ask questions,
318
00:24:44,308 --> 00:24:47,226
it's because they know
the answers already.
319
00:24:47,313 --> 00:24:52,226
It's also possible for a lawyer to be just
plain stupid, isn't it? I mean, it's possible.
320
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,404
You sound like you met
my brother-in-law once.
321
00:24:57,410 --> 00:25:03,781
I kept putting myself in the kid's place.
I'd have asked for another lawyer, I think.
322
00:25:03,875 --> 00:25:06,285
I mean, if I was on trial for my life,
323
00:25:06,380 --> 00:25:11,375
I'd want my lawyer to tear the prosecution
witnesses to shreds, or at least try to.
324
00:25:11,470 --> 00:25:15,717
Look, there was one alleged
eyewitness to this killing.
325
00:25:15,809 --> 00:25:19,343
Someone else claims he heard the killing,
saw the boy run out after,
326
00:25:19,437 --> 00:25:21,646
and there was circumstantial evidence.
327
00:25:21,734 --> 00:25:25,683
But those two witnesses
were the entire case for the prosecution.
328
00:25:25,780 --> 00:25:27,240
Supposing they're wrong?
329
00:25:27,324 --> 00:25:30,658
What do you mean? What's the point
of having witnesses at all?
330
00:25:30,744 --> 00:25:35,123
- Could they be wrong?
- Those people were under oath.
331
00:25:35,208 --> 00:25:39,209
They're only people. People
make mistakes. Could they be wrong?
332
00:25:39,297 --> 00:25:42,382
- Well, no. I don't think so.
- Do you know so?
333
00:25:42,468 --> 00:25:45,920
Nobody can know a thing like that.
This isn't an exact science.
334
00:25:46,014 --> 00:25:48,506
That's right, it isn't.
335
00:25:52,522 --> 00:25:55,015
OK, let's get to the point.
336
00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:58,230
What about the switch knife
they found in the old man's chest?
337
00:25:58,321 --> 00:26:01,526
Some people haven't talked yet.
Shouldn't we go in order?
338
00:26:01,618 --> 00:26:05,201
They'll get a chance to talk.
Be quiet a second, will ya?
339
00:26:05,289 --> 00:26:09,953
What about the knife this fine, upright boy
admitted buying the night of the killing?
340
00:26:10,046 --> 00:26:13,664
- Let's talk about it.
- All right. Let's get it in here and look at it.
341
00:26:13,758 --> 00:26:18,802
- I'd like to see it again. Mr Foreman?
- Why do we have to see it again?
342
00:26:18,891 --> 00:26:22,509
The gentleman has a right
to see exhibits in evidence.
343
00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:26,564
- Say, could you bring us the knife?
- The knife? Sure.
344
00:26:27,901 --> 00:26:31,521
The knife and the way it was bought
is strong evidence, don't you think?
345
00:26:31,615 --> 00:26:35,448
- I do.
- Good. Let's take the facts one at a time.
346
00:26:35,537 --> 00:26:38,955
One: The boy admitted leaving the house
at eight o'clock at night
347
00:26:39,042 --> 00:26:41,250
after being slapped by his father.
348
00:26:41,337 --> 00:26:46,214
No, he didn't say "slapped".
He said "punched". There's a difference.
349
00:26:46,301 --> 00:26:48,840
After being hit several times by his father.
350
00:26:48,929 --> 00:26:52,929
Two: He went directly to a local junk shop
where he bought one of those...
351
00:26:53,018 --> 00:26:55,428
- Switch knives.
- Switchblade knives.
352
00:26:55,523 --> 00:27:00,231
This wasn't an ordinary knife. It had
a very unusual carved handle and blade.
353
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,863
The storekeeper said it was the only one
of its kind he had ever had in stock.
354
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:10,196
Three: He met some friends of his in front
of a tavern about 8.45. Am I right so far?
355
00:27:10,292 --> 00:27:12,330
- Yes, you are.
- You bet he is.
356
00:27:12,418 --> 00:27:15,871
He talked with his friends
for an hour, leaving them at 9.45.
357
00:27:15,965 --> 00:27:18,754
During this time,
they saw the switch knife.
358
00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:25,727
Four: They identified the death weapon
in court as that very same knife.
359
00:27:25,811 --> 00:27:28,647
Five: He arrived home
at about ten o'clock.
360
00:27:28,731 --> 00:27:33,027
This is where the stories offered
by the State and the boy diverge slightly.
361
00:27:33,112 --> 00:27:35,605
He claims that he went to a movie
at about 11.30,
362
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:39,994
returning home at 3.10 to find
his father dead and himself arrested.
363
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,161
He also claims that the two detectives
threw him down a half a flight of stairs.
364
00:27:44,252 --> 00:27:48,120
What happened to the knife? He claims
it fell through a hole in his pocket
365
00:27:48,215 --> 00:27:51,965
on the way to the movies,
sometime between 11.30 and 3.10,
366
00:27:52,054 --> 00:27:55,721
and that he never saw it again.
Now, there is a tale, gentlemen.
367
00:27:55,809 --> 00:27:59,093
I think it's clear the boy
never went to the movies that night.
368
00:27:59,186 --> 00:28:02,973
No one in the house saw him go out.
No one at the theatre identified him.
369
00:28:03,068 --> 00:28:06,354
He couldn't even remember
the names of the pictures he saw.
370
00:28:08,074 --> 00:28:10,069
What actually happened is this.
371
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,446
The boy stayed home,
had another fight with his father,
372
00:28:13,538 --> 00:28:17,040
stabbed him to death and left the house
at 10 minutes after 12.
373
00:28:17,128 --> 00:28:19,916
He even wiped the knife
clean of fingerprints.
374
00:28:20,007 --> 00:28:24,420
Are you trying to tell me that this knife
fell through a hole in the boy's pocket,
375
00:28:24,512 --> 00:28:26,886
someone picked it up,
went to the boy's house
376
00:28:26,974 --> 00:28:29,929
and stabbed his father with it
just to test its sharpness?
377
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:32,262
No, but it's possible the boy lost his knife
378
00:28:32,356 --> 00:28:35,442
and somebody else stabbed his father
with a similar knife.
379
00:28:35,528 --> 00:28:38,019
Take a look at this knife.
380
00:28:39,031 --> 00:28:41,239
It's a very unusual knife.
381
00:28:41,326 --> 00:28:45,574
I've never seen one like it. Neither had
the storekeeper who sold it to the boy.
382
00:28:45,665 --> 00:28:48,915
Aren't you asking us to accept
an incredible coincidence?
383
00:28:49,002 --> 00:28:53,797
- I'm just saying a coincidence is possible.
- And I say it's not possible.
384
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,557
Where did that come from?
385
00:29:01,643 --> 00:29:04,431
- It's the same knife!
- What do you think you're doin'?
386
00:29:04,522 --> 00:29:08,225
- Where did you get it?
- I went out walking last night.
387
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,396
Through the boy's neighbourhood.
388
00:29:10,489 --> 00:29:15,781
I bought that at a pawn shop two blocks
from the boy's house. It cost six dollars.
389
00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:18,623
It's against the law
to buy or sell switchblade knives.
390
00:29:18,707 --> 00:29:21,911
- That's right. I broke the law.
- You pulled a real bright trick.
391
00:29:22,003 --> 00:29:24,496
Now supposing you tell me what it proves.
392
00:29:24,591 --> 00:29:27,841
- Maybe there are ten knives like that.
- Maybe there are!
393
00:29:27,928 --> 00:29:32,924
What does it mean? You found a knife like
it. What's that? The discovery of the age?
394
00:29:33,018 --> 00:29:37,231
You think somebody else did the stabbing
with exactly the same kind of knife?
395
00:29:37,315 --> 00:29:40,317
- The odds are a million to one.
- It's possible!
396
00:29:40,403 --> 00:29:44,567
- But not very probable.
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
397
00:29:44,657 --> 00:29:48,194
There's no point standing around
all over the place.
398
00:29:48,288 --> 00:29:51,991
It's interesting that he'd find a knife
exactly like the boy's.
399
00:29:52,086 --> 00:29:56,664
- What's interesting about it? Interesting!
- I just thought it was interesting.
400
00:29:56,757 --> 00:29:59,084
Eleven of us still think he's guilty.
401
00:29:59,177 --> 00:30:03,010
Right. You're not gonna
change anybody's mind.
402
00:30:03,099 --> 00:30:05,388
If you wanna hang this jury, go ahead.
403
00:30:05,477 --> 00:30:09,643
The kid'll be tried again
and found guilty, as sure as he's born.
404
00:30:09,983 --> 00:30:12,106
You're probably right.
405
00:30:12,194 --> 00:30:15,031
So, what are you gonna do?
We can be here all night.
406
00:30:15,115 --> 00:30:18,401
It's only one night. A boy may die.
407
00:30:18,493 --> 00:30:21,246
Well, why don't we just
set up house here?
408
00:30:21,330 --> 00:30:23,658
Someone send for a pinochle deck
409
00:30:23,752 --> 00:30:27,416
and we'll just sweat
the whole thing out right here.
410
00:30:27,505 --> 00:30:31,339
- I don't think he oughta joke about it.
- What do you want me to do about it?
411
00:30:31,428 --> 00:30:34,548
I don't see what the knife
has got to do with anything.
412
00:30:34,641 --> 00:30:37,559
Somebody saw the kid stab his father.
What more do we need?
413
00:30:37,645 --> 00:30:40,481
You guys can talk the ears
right off my head.
414
00:30:40,565 --> 00:30:45,108
I got three garages going to pot.
So let's get done and get outta here.
415
00:30:45,195 --> 00:30:48,779
The knife was important to the
district attorney. He spent a day...
416
00:30:48,868 --> 00:30:51,703
He's a 15th assistant or something.
What does he know?
417
00:30:51,788 --> 00:30:56,083
Let's hold it down. These side arguments
are only slowin' us up.
418
00:30:57,921 --> 00:31:01,289
- Well, what about it?
- You're the only one.
419
00:31:08,684 --> 00:31:14,856
I have a proposition to make to all of you.
I'm going to call for another vote.
420
00:31:14,943 --> 00:31:17,731
I want you eleven men to...
421
00:31:17,822 --> 00:31:20,230
vote by secret written ballot.
422
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:25,327
I'll abstain. If there are eleven votes
for guilty, I won't stand alone.
423
00:31:25,414 --> 00:31:30,327
We'll take in a guilty verdict
to the judge right now.
424
00:31:30,421 --> 00:31:35,629
But if anyone votes not guilty,
we'll stay here and talk it out.
425
00:31:37,514 --> 00:31:42,342
- That's it. If you want to try it, I'm ready.
- All right. Let's do it the hard way.
426
00:31:42,436 --> 00:31:46,271
That sounds fair. Everyone agreed?
Anyone doesn't agree?
427
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:48,435
OK, pass these along.
428
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,356
Guilty.
429
00:32:25,158 --> 00:32:26,818
Guilty.
430
00:32:28,581 --> 00:32:30,241
Guilty.
431
00:32:31,877 --> 00:32:33,536
Guilty.
432
00:32:34,755 --> 00:32:36,416
Guilty.
433
00:32:37,801 --> 00:32:39,461
Guilty.
434
00:32:41,095 --> 00:32:42,757
Guilty.
435
00:32:43,266 --> 00:32:44,927
Guilty.
436
00:32:45,937 --> 00:32:47,597
Guilty.
437
00:32:51,694 --> 00:32:53,687
Not guilty.
438
00:32:53,780 --> 00:32:55,321
Guilty.
439
00:32:55,406 --> 00:32:59,571
- Boy, how do you like that?
- And another chap flips his wings!
440
00:32:59,661 --> 00:33:02,498
All right. Who was it?
Come on, I wanna know.
441
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:06,249
Excuse me. This was a secret ballot.
We all agreed on that, no?
442
00:33:06,337 --> 00:33:08,794
If the gentleman
wants it to remain secret...
443
00:33:08,883 --> 00:33:14,471
Secret? What do you mean? There are no
secrets in a jury room. I know who it was.
444
00:33:14,557 --> 00:33:18,805
Brother, you really are somethin'.
You vote guilty like the rest of us,
445
00:33:18,896 --> 00:33:22,100
then some golden-voiced preacher
tears your heart out -
446
00:33:22,192 --> 00:33:25,478
some underprivileged kid
couldn't help becoming a murderer -
447
00:33:25,571 --> 00:33:29,320
and you change your vote.
If that isn't the most sickening...
448
00:33:29,409 --> 00:33:32,862
Why don't you drop a quarter
in his collection box?
449
00:33:32,955 --> 00:33:37,619
Oh, now just wait a... Listen, you can't talk
to me like that. Who do you think you are?
450
00:33:37,712 --> 00:33:40,499
Calm down, calm down. It doesn't matter.
451
00:33:40,589 --> 00:33:44,210
- He's very excitable. Sit down.
- Excitable? You bet I'm excitable!
452
00:33:44,304 --> 00:33:47,638
We're tryin' to put a guilty man
in the chair, where he belongs.
453
00:33:47,725 --> 00:33:51,427
Someone starts tellin' us
fairy tales and we're listenin'!
454
00:33:52,106 --> 00:33:57,018
- What made you change your vote?
- He didn't change his vote. I did.
455
00:33:57,112 --> 00:33:59,104
- Oh, fine.
- I knew it.
456
00:33:59,197 --> 00:34:03,067
- Would you like me to tell you why?
- No, I wouldn't like you to tell me why.
457
00:34:03,162 --> 00:34:07,243
- I'd like to anyway, if you don't mind.
- Do we have to listen to this?
458
00:34:07,334 --> 00:34:10,834
- The man wants to talk.
- Thank you.
459
00:34:10,921 --> 00:34:14,292
This gentleman has been
standing alone against us.
460
00:34:14,385 --> 00:34:16,626
He doesn't say the boy is not guilty.
461
00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:21,634
He just isn't sure. It's not easy to stand
alone against the ridicule of others.
462
00:34:21,728 --> 00:34:26,473
So he gambled for support and I gave it
to him. I respect his motives.
463
00:34:26,566 --> 00:34:31,231
The boy on trial is probably guilty,
but... I want to hear more.
464
00:34:31,323 --> 00:34:34,989
The vote is ten to two. I'm talking!
You have no right to leave this room!
465
00:34:35,078 --> 00:34:38,365
He can't hear you. He never will.
Let's sit down.
466
00:34:43,547 --> 00:34:47,593
- Shall we continue?
- Well, I think we ought to take a break.
467
00:34:47,677 --> 00:34:52,307
You know, one man's inside and
I think we ought to wait for him.
468
00:34:55,061 --> 00:34:57,897
Looks like we're really
hung up here, huh?
469
00:34:57,981 --> 00:35:02,481
I mean, that thing with the old man,
that was pretty unexpected.
470
00:35:02,573 --> 00:35:06,191
Wish I could figure out some way
we could break it up.
471
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,617
You know, in advertising...
I told you I worked in an agency?
472
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:16,545
Some pretty strange people work there.
Well, not strange, really.
473
00:35:16,633 --> 00:35:20,928
I guess it's just they have peculiar ways
of expressing themselves.
474
00:35:21,013 --> 00:35:24,015
I suppose it's the same
in your business too, huh?
475
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,639
- What do you do?
- I'm a watchmaker.
476
00:35:26,729 --> 00:35:30,858
Really? I imagine the finest watchmakers
in the world come from Europe.
477
00:35:30,943 --> 00:35:33,945
Anyway, in an agency,
when we reach a point like this...
478
00:35:34,031 --> 00:35:37,863
I'm telling him, in an ad agency when
a point like this is reached in a meeting,
479
00:35:37,952 --> 00:35:41,072
there's always some character
ready with an idea, see.
480
00:35:41,164 --> 00:35:43,573
It kills me. It's the weirdest thing,
481
00:35:43,667 --> 00:35:46,705
the way they sometimes precede
their idea with a phrase.
482
00:35:46,796 --> 00:35:50,498
Like, some account exec
will get up and he'll say:
483
00:35:50,593 --> 00:35:56,929
"OK, here's an idea. Let's... run it up
the flagpole and see if anyone salutes it."
484
00:35:57,018 --> 00:35:59,557
I mean, it's idiotic, but it's funny.
485
00:35:59,647 --> 00:36:03,265
I... got a little excited back there.
486
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:06,314
I... didn't mean to get nasty.
487
00:36:07,657 --> 00:36:12,996
Glad you're not one of those who lets
these emotional appeals influence him.
488
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:30,807
I don't know what's the matter
with that fan.
489
00:36:40,575 --> 00:36:43,826
- Are you a salesman?
- I'm an architect.
490
00:36:46,541 --> 00:36:49,377
You know what the soft sell is?
491
00:36:51,756 --> 00:36:54,793
Well, you've got it, believe me.
492
00:36:55,301 --> 00:36:57,841
I've got a different technique.
493
00:36:57,931 --> 00:37:01,882
Laughs, drinks, jokes, tricks. You know?
494
00:37:02,895 --> 00:37:04,973
Yeah.
495
00:37:05,607 --> 00:37:09,024
Hit 'em where they live-that's my motto.
496
00:37:09,112 --> 00:37:12,814
I made 27 grand last year
sellin' marmalade.
497
00:37:12,909 --> 00:37:16,493
That's not bad. I mean, you know,
considerin' marmalade.
498
00:37:18,624 --> 00:37:21,331
What are you gettin' out of this? Kicks?
499
00:37:22,089 --> 00:37:25,788
Or did somebody bump you on the head
once and you haven't gotten over it?
500
00:37:25,883 --> 00:37:30,214
- Maybe.
- You know, you do-gooders are all alike.
501
00:37:30,306 --> 00:37:34,934
You're always blowin' your stacks
over some guy that fanned.
502
00:37:36,148 --> 00:37:38,852
But what are you wastin' our time for?
503
00:37:38,943 --> 00:37:44,448
Why don't you donate five dollars to the
cause? Maybe it'll make you feel better.
504
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,277
This kid is guilty, pal.
505
00:37:48,371 --> 00:37:53,165
It's as plain as the nose on your face. So
why don't we stop wastin' our time here?
506
00:37:53,252 --> 00:37:56,125
We're gonna all get sore throats
if we keep it up.
507
00:37:56,215 --> 00:38:00,047
What difference does it make
if you get it here or at the ball game?
508
00:38:00,136 --> 00:38:02,545
No difference, pal.
509
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,718
No difference at all.
510
00:38:16,408 --> 00:38:21,368
- Nice bunch of guys, huh?
- They're about the same as anyone else.
511
00:38:21,456 --> 00:38:23,947
Boy, what a murderous day.
512
00:38:24,376 --> 00:38:28,126
- Do you think we'll be much longer?
- I don't know.
513
00:38:28,215 --> 00:38:31,917
He's guilty for sure.
Not a doubt in the whole world.
514
00:38:32,012 --> 00:38:35,761
We should've...
We should've been done already.
515
00:38:36,684 --> 00:38:39,093
Oh, I don't mind, you know.
516
00:38:39,188 --> 00:38:41,264
Beats workin'.
517
00:38:47,616 --> 00:38:52,112
- You think he's not guilty, huh?
- I don't know. It's possible.
518
00:38:52,203 --> 00:38:56,251
Well, I don't know you, but I'm bettin'
you've never been wronger in your life.
519
00:38:56,335 --> 00:38:58,744
You're wastin' your time.
You ought to wrap it up.
520
00:38:58,838 --> 00:39:01,711
Supposing you were the one
who was on trial?
521
00:39:01,801 --> 00:39:05,051
Well, I'm not used to supposin'.
I'm just a workin' man.
522
00:39:05,138 --> 00:39:08,091
My boss does the supposin'. But...
523
00:39:08,182 --> 00:39:10,261
I'll try one.
524
00:39:11,062 --> 00:39:14,515
Supposin' you talk us all out of this and...
525
00:39:14,609 --> 00:39:18,442
the kid really did knife his father, huh?
526
00:39:25,706 --> 00:39:27,747
Are you ready?
527
00:39:29,211 --> 00:39:31,287
Sorry, blue eyes.
528
00:39:32,006 --> 00:39:35,128
- Well, where else?
- OK, fellas. Let's take our seats.
529
00:39:35,219 --> 00:39:39,882
- Looks like we'll be here for dinner.
- OK, now let's get down to business.
530
00:39:39,975 --> 00:39:41,802
- Who wants to start?
- I will.
531
00:39:41,894 --> 00:39:44,766
- OK, go.
- You, down there.
532
00:39:44,856 --> 00:39:48,902
The old man who lived downstairs says
he heard the kid yell "I'm gonna kill ya."
533
00:39:48,987 --> 00:39:51,479
A second later,
he heard the body hit the floor.
534
00:39:51,573 --> 00:39:56,699
He ran to the door and saw the kid run out
of the house. What's that mean to you?
535
00:39:56,787 --> 00:40:00,373
I wonder how clearly he heard
the boy's voice through the ceiling.
536
00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:04,542
He didn't. The window was open. So was
the one upstairs. It was a hot night.
537
00:40:04,633 --> 00:40:08,215
It was another apartment.
It's not easy to identify a shouting voice.
538
00:40:08,303 --> 00:40:10,131
He identified it in court.
539
00:40:10,223 --> 00:40:14,684
The lady across the street looked right in
the open window and saw the stabbing.
540
00:40:14,770 --> 00:40:17,263
- Isn't that enough for you?
- No, it isn't.
541
00:40:17,358 --> 00:40:21,106
Boy, how do you like this guy?
It's like talkin' into a dead phone.
542
00:40:21,195 --> 00:40:24,280
She said she saw it through
the windows of a moving el train.
543
00:40:24,366 --> 00:40:27,901
There were six cars on the train.
She saw it through the last two.
544
00:40:27,995 --> 00:40:31,994
She remembered insignificant details.
How can you argue with that?
545
00:40:32,084 --> 00:40:37,424
Has anybody here any idea
how long it would take an el...
546
00:40:46,938 --> 00:40:49,429
This isn't a game.
547
00:40:52,612 --> 00:40:54,937
Did you see him?
548
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:58,319
The nerve! The absolute nerve!
549
00:40:58,411 --> 00:41:02,243
- Forget it. It's not important.
- This isn't a game?
550
00:41:02,332 --> 00:41:05,748
- Who does he think he is?
- Forget it now.
551
00:41:05,836 --> 00:41:11,129
Any idea how long it takes an el train
at medium speed to pass a given point?
552
00:41:11,219 --> 00:41:13,093
- What has that to do with it?
- Guess.
553
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,554
- I wouldn't have any idea.
- What do you think?
554
00:41:15,642 --> 00:41:20,351
- I don't know. Ten, twelve seconds?
- A pretty good guess. Anyone else?
555
00:41:20,438 --> 00:41:23,108
- Sounds right to me.
- What's the guessing game for?
556
00:41:23,192 --> 00:41:25,066
- What do you say?
- Ten seconds.
557
00:41:25,153 --> 00:41:28,440
- All right. What are you getting at?
- This.
558
00:41:28,533 --> 00:41:32,200
It takes a six-car el train
ten seconds to pass a given point.
559
00:41:32,288 --> 00:41:36,749
Say the given point is the open window
of the room where the killing took place.
560
00:41:36,835 --> 00:41:39,837
You can reach out
and almost touch the el tracks, right?
561
00:41:39,922 --> 00:41:43,792
Now let me ask you this. Has anyone
here ever lived near the el tracks?
562
00:41:43,887 --> 00:41:48,681
I just finished painting an apartment that
overlooked an el line. It took three days.
563
00:41:48,768 --> 00:41:53,145
- What was it like? Noisy?
- Oh, brother! No matter. We were punchy.
564
00:41:53,231 --> 00:41:55,936
I lived in an apartment
near the el line once.
565
00:41:56,026 --> 00:41:59,147
When the window's open,
the train noise is almost unbearable.
566
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,941
- You can hardly hear yourself think.
- Will you get to the point?
567
00:42:03,036 --> 00:42:08,115
I will. Now, let's take two pieces of
testimony and try to put them together.
568
00:42:08,209 --> 00:42:12,423
First: The old man
in the apartment downstairs.
569
00:42:12,507 --> 00:42:15,047
He says he heard the boy say
"I'm gonna kill you",
570
00:42:15,136 --> 00:42:17,805
and a split second later
heard a body hit the floor.
571
00:42:17,890 --> 00:42:19,632
- One second later.
- Right.
572
00:42:19,724 --> 00:42:22,430
Second: The woman across the street
573
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,566
swore positively she looked
out of the window and saw the killing
574
00:42:26,651 --> 00:42:30,066
through the last two cars
of a passing el train-the last two cars.
575
00:42:30,154 --> 00:42:32,907
- What are you givin' us here?
- Now, just a minute.
576
00:42:32,992 --> 00:42:38,154
We've agreed that it takes ten seconds
for a train to pass a given point.
577
00:42:38,248 --> 00:42:41,452
Since the woman saw the killing
through the last two cars,
578
00:42:41,544 --> 00:42:46,968
we can assume that the body hit
the floor just as the train went by.
579
00:42:47,053 --> 00:42:51,346
Therefore, the train had been
roaring by the old man's window
580
00:42:51,432 --> 00:42:54,849
a full ten seconds
before the body hit the floor.
581
00:42:54,937 --> 00:43:00,146
The old man - "I'm gonna kill you",
body hitting the floor a second later -
582
00:43:00,236 --> 00:43:04,400
would have had to hear the boy's words
with the el roaring past his nose!
583
00:43:04,490 --> 00:43:07,409
- It's not possible he heard it.
- Of course he heard it.
584
00:43:07,494 --> 00:43:10,829
- Do you think so?
- He said he yelled at the top of his voice.
585
00:43:10,916 --> 00:43:14,168
He couldn't have identified the voice
with the el roaring by.
586
00:43:14,254 --> 00:43:17,090
It was a matter of seconds!
Nobody can be that accurate.
587
00:43:17,174 --> 00:43:22,383
Testimony that could put a boy into the
electric chair should be that accurate.
588
00:43:23,934 --> 00:43:28,347
- I don't think he could have heard it.
- Maybe he didn't, with all that el noise.
589
00:43:28,439 --> 00:43:32,355
- What are you people talkin' about?
- It stands to reason he couldn't have.
590
00:43:32,445 --> 00:43:36,525
- Why lie? What's he got to gain?
- Attention, maybe.
591
00:43:36,616 --> 00:43:41,824
You keep comin' in with bright sayings.
Send 'em to a paper! They pay $3 apiece!
592
00:43:41,915 --> 00:43:44,702
What are you talkin' to him like that for?
593
00:43:44,794 --> 00:43:48,330
A guy who talks like that to an old man
really oughta get stepped on.
594
00:43:48,424 --> 00:43:51,460
You oughta have more respect, mister.
595
00:43:51,552 --> 00:43:56,631
You say stuff like that to him again...
I'm gonna lay you out.
596
00:44:06,071 --> 00:44:08,943
You go ahead. You say anything you like.
597
00:44:10,034 --> 00:44:13,155
Why do you think the old man might lie?
598
00:44:13,248 --> 00:44:17,293
It was just that I looked at him
for a very long time.
599
00:44:17,378 --> 00:44:20,629
The seam of his jacket was split,
under the shoulder.
600
00:44:20,716 --> 00:44:25,094
Did you notice that?
I mean, to come into court like that.
601
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,970
He was a very old man in a torn jacket.
602
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,979
And he walked very slowly to the stand.
603
00:44:35,067 --> 00:44:39,363
He was dragging his left leg
and trying to hide it,
604
00:44:39,448 --> 00:44:41,987
because he was ashamed.
605
00:44:42,076 --> 00:44:46,290
I think I know this man
better than anyone here.
606
00:44:46,375 --> 00:44:49,210
This is a quiet, frightened,
607
00:44:49,294 --> 00:44:51,751
insignificant old man who...
608
00:44:51,839 --> 00:44:54,593
who has been nothing all his life.
609
00:44:54,677 --> 00:44:59,589
Who has never had recognition
or his name in the newspapers.
610
00:44:59,683 --> 00:45:03,895
Nobody knows him. Nobody quotes him.
611
00:45:03,979 --> 00:45:07,729
Nobody seeks his advice after 75 years.
612
00:45:08,694 --> 00:45:13,323
Gentlemen, that's a very sad thing -
to mean nothing.
613
00:45:13,409 --> 00:45:18,237
A man like this needs to be quoted,
to be listened to.
614
00:45:18,373 --> 00:45:22,455
To be quoted just once -
very important to him.
615
00:45:22,545 --> 00:45:25,582
It would be so hard for him
to recede into the background.
616
00:45:25,674 --> 00:45:29,756
Wait a minute. Are you tellin' us he'd lie
just so he could be important once?
617
00:45:29,847 --> 00:45:32,682
No. He wouldn't really lie.
618
00:45:32,767 --> 00:45:36,138
But perhaps he made himself believe
he heard those words
619
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:38,555
and recognised the boy's face.
620
00:45:38,650 --> 00:45:41,058
That's the most fantastic story ever.
621
00:45:41,152 --> 00:45:45,069
How can you make up a thing like that?
What do you know about it?
622
00:45:53,878 --> 00:45:57,379
- Does anybody want a cough drop?
- I'll take one.
623
00:45:57,467 --> 00:46:01,050
I still don't see how anybody
can think he's not guilty.
624
00:46:01,138 --> 00:46:05,302
There's something else I'd like
to talk about for a minute. Thanks.
625
00:46:05,393 --> 00:46:09,439
We've proved the old man couldn't have
heard the boy say "I'm gonna kill you."
626
00:46:09,523 --> 00:46:13,439
- You didn't prove it at all!
- Wait. Supposing he really did hear it?
627
00:46:13,529 --> 00:46:17,399
This phrase, how many times have
all of us used it? Probably thousands.
628
00:46:17,494 --> 00:46:22,488
"I could kill you for that." "Junior, do that
again and I'll kill you." "Rocky, kill him."
629
00:46:22,582 --> 00:46:27,791
- It doesn't mean we'd really kill anybody.
- The phrase was: "I'm gonna kill you."
630
00:46:27,881 --> 00:46:30,171
The kid yelled it at the top of his lungs.
631
00:46:30,259 --> 00:46:33,878
Don't tell me he didn't mean it.
Anybody says it like that, they mean it!
632
00:46:33,972 --> 00:46:35,882
Gee, I don't know.
633
00:46:35,975 --> 00:46:39,724
I was arguing with the guy I work next to
at the bank a few weeks ago.
634
00:46:39,812 --> 00:46:42,270
He called me an idiot, so I yelled at him.
635
00:46:42,358 --> 00:46:45,146
This guy is trying to make you
believe what isn't so!
636
00:46:45,237 --> 00:46:47,314
The kid said he'd kill him and he did!
637
00:46:47,406 --> 00:46:52,069
Do you really think the boy'd shout it out
so the whole neighbourhood could hear?
638
00:46:52,162 --> 00:46:57,076
- He's much too bright for that.
- Bright? He's a common, ignorant slob.
639
00:46:57,169 --> 00:46:59,246
He don't even speak good English.
640
00:46:59,339 --> 00:47:02,791
He doesn't even speak good English.
641
00:47:04,303 --> 00:47:08,172
Mr Foreman, I'd like to
change my vote to not guilty.
642
00:47:08,810 --> 00:47:10,933
- You what?
- You heard me.
643
00:47:11,020 --> 00:47:14,473
- Are you sure?
- Yeah, I'm sure.
644
00:47:14,567 --> 00:47:17,237
The vote is nine to three
in favour of guilty.
645
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,812
Well, if this isn't the livin' end!
646
00:47:23,953 --> 00:47:27,538
What are you basin' it on?
Stories this guy made up?
647
00:47:27,625 --> 00:47:31,708
You oughta write for one of those kooky
detective magazines, make a fortune.
648
00:47:31,798 --> 00:47:35,464
For cryin' out loud, the kid's own lawyer
knew he didn't stand a chance.
649
00:47:35,552 --> 00:47:39,088
Right from the beginning, his own
lawyer knew, and you could see it.
650
00:47:39,181 --> 00:47:43,395
Boy, oh boy, I'm telling ya.
This guy here is really somethin'.
651
00:47:43,479 --> 00:47:46,849
The kid had a lawyer, didn't he?
He presented his case, not you.
652
00:47:46,941 --> 00:47:49,814
- How come you say so much?
- Lawyers aren't infallible.
653
00:47:49,904 --> 00:47:52,941
- Baltimore, please.
- He was court-appointed.
654
00:47:53,033 --> 00:47:55,239
- What's that supposed to mean?
- A lot.
655
00:47:55,328 --> 00:47:58,580
He didn't want the case
or he resented being appointed.
656
00:47:58,666 --> 00:48:03,127
It's the kind of case that brings no money,
no glory, not much chance of winning.
657
00:48:03,212 --> 00:48:06,333
That's not a very promising
situation for a young lawyer.
658
00:48:06,425 --> 00:48:11,339
He'd really have to believe in his client to
put up a good case. Obviously he didn't.
659
00:48:11,433 --> 00:48:13,510
Of course he didn't.
660
00:48:14,396 --> 00:48:16,721
Who the heck could?
661
00:48:16,815 --> 00:48:19,769
Except maybe some guy's mother
or somebody.
662
00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:22,779
Oh, look.
Will you look at the time? Come on.
663
00:48:22,865 --> 00:48:26,399
Pardon me. I have made some notes here,
664
00:48:26,493 --> 00:48:29,910
and I would like, please,
to say something.
665
00:48:29,998 --> 00:48:32,786
I have been listening very carefully and...
666
00:48:32,877 --> 00:48:36,746
it seems to me that this man
has some very good points to make.
667
00:48:36,841 --> 00:48:41,504
From what was presented at the trial,
the boy looks guilty, on the surface.
668
00:48:41,597 --> 00:48:45,430
- But maybe if we go deeper...
- Come on, will ya?
669
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:47,761
There is a question I would like to ask.
670
00:48:47,854 --> 00:48:51,307
Let us assume that the boy
really did commit the murder.
671
00:48:51,401 --> 00:48:54,770
Now, this happened
at 10 minutes after 12.
672
00:48:54,863 --> 00:48:57,402
Now, how was he caught by the police?
673
00:48:57,492 --> 00:49:01,621
He came back home...
at three o'clock or so,
674
00:49:01,705 --> 00:49:05,492
and he was captured by two detectives
in the hallway of his house.
675
00:49:05,587 --> 00:49:10,214
Now, my question is:
If he really had killed his father,
676
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:13,754
why would he come back home
three hours later?
677
00:49:13,848 --> 00:49:16,718
Wouldn't he be afraid of being caught?
678
00:49:16,809 --> 00:49:20,891
He came home for his knife. It's not nice
to leave knives in people's chests.
679
00:49:20,982 --> 00:49:23,817
Yeah, especially relatives'.
680
00:49:23,902 --> 00:49:26,524
I don't see anything funny about it.
681
00:49:26,614 --> 00:49:29,818
The boy knew the knife
could be identified.
682
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:34,406
- He had to get it before the police did.
- If he knew the knife could be identified,
683
00:49:34,498 --> 00:49:37,121
why did he leave it there in the first place?
684
00:49:37,210 --> 00:49:42,669
I think we can assume the boy ran out in a
state of panic, having just killed his father.
685
00:49:42,759 --> 00:49:45,762
He calmed down and realised
he'd left his knife there.
686
00:49:45,846 --> 00:49:48,764
This, then, depends
on your definition of panic.
687
00:49:48,850 --> 00:49:53,811
He would have had to be calm enough to
wipe off any fingerprints left on the knife.
688
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:57,768
Now, where did this panic start
and where did it end?
689
00:49:57,863 --> 00:50:00,651
You voted guilty. What side are you on?
690
00:50:00,741 --> 00:50:03,909
I don't believe I have to be loyal
to one side or the other.
691
00:50:03,995 --> 00:50:09,240
- I'm simply asking questions.
- This is just off the top of my head but...
692
00:50:09,336 --> 00:50:13,550
If I'd done the stabbing, I'd take a chance
and go back for the knife.
693
00:50:13,634 --> 00:50:16,206
I'll bet he figured
nobody'd seen him running out
694
00:50:16,303 --> 00:50:19,092
and the body wouldn't be discovered
till the next day.
695
00:50:19,183 --> 00:50:23,395
After all, it was the middle of the night.
He figured it'd be found the next day.
696
00:50:23,479 --> 00:50:25,519
Pardon. This is my whole point.
697
00:50:25,606 --> 00:50:29,607
The woman across the street testified
that the moment after she saw the killing,
698
00:50:29,696 --> 00:50:31,938
that is, a moment after the train went by,
699
00:50:32,032 --> 00:50:35,199
she screamed, and then went
to telephone the police.
700
00:50:35,286 --> 00:50:38,822
Now, the boy certainly
must have heard the scream.
701
00:50:38,916 --> 00:50:42,168
So he knew that
somebody saw something.
702
00:50:42,254 --> 00:50:45,126
I just don't think
that he would have gone back.
703
00:50:45,217 --> 00:50:49,843
Two things. One: He may not have heard
the scream. Perhaps it wasn't very loud.
704
00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:53,266
Two: If he did, he may not
have connected it with his own acts.
705
00:50:53,352 --> 00:50:56,390
He lived in a neighbourhood
where screams were commonplace.
706
00:50:56,481 --> 00:51:00,859
- There's your answer.
- Maybe. Maybe the boy did kill his father.
707
00:51:00,945 --> 00:51:03,353
Didn't hear the scream,
did run out in a panic,
708
00:51:03,448 --> 00:51:08,324
calmed down later and came back for the
knife, risking being caught by the police.
709
00:51:08,412 --> 00:51:11,367
Maybe those things happened,
but maybe they didn't.
710
00:51:11,458 --> 00:51:15,706
There's enough doubt to wonder if he was
there at all at the time of the killing.
711
00:51:15,796 --> 00:51:19,250
What do you mean? Didn't the old man
see him running out of the house?
712
00:51:19,344 --> 00:51:21,171
He's twisting the facts.
713
00:51:21,263 --> 00:51:24,847
Did or didn't the old man see the kid
running out of the house at 12.10?
714
00:51:24,935 --> 00:51:27,606
- Well, did or didn't he?
- He says he did.
715
00:51:27,689 --> 00:51:30,143
Says he did? Boy, how do you like that?
716
00:51:30,232 --> 00:51:33,353
- Witnesses can make mistakes.
- Sure, when you want them to!
717
00:51:33,445 --> 00:51:36,152
- Or when he wants them to!
- Keep the yelling down.
718
00:51:36,241 --> 00:51:41,070
Maybe we need a little yelling. These
guys keep going off every which way.
719
00:51:41,163 --> 00:51:44,451
Did hear the scream, didn't hear it -
what difference does it make?
720
00:51:44,544 --> 00:51:48,410
You're talking about little details
and forgetting the important stuff.
721
00:51:48,505 --> 00:51:51,176
- I call for another vote.
- I'm talking here!
722
00:51:51,260 --> 00:51:53,338
Another vote called for.
723
00:51:53,430 --> 00:51:55,922
Now let's take our seats.
724
00:51:59,021 --> 00:52:01,476
I never saw so much time
spent on nothin'.
725
00:52:01,566 --> 00:52:03,854
It only takes a second.
726
00:52:04,528 --> 00:52:07,945
OK, I guess the fastest way is
to find out who's voting not guilty.
727
00:52:08,032 --> 00:52:11,818
All those voting not guilty,
please raise your hands.
728
00:52:11,912 --> 00:52:15,530
Still the same. One, two, three
not guilty. Nine guilty.
729
00:52:15,624 --> 00:52:20,585
So now where are we? We can yakety-yak
till next Tuesday. Where's it getting us?
730
00:52:20,673 --> 00:52:23,710
Pardon. I vote not guilty.
731
00:52:25,764 --> 00:52:30,142
What are you talkin' about? I mean,
we're all goin' crazy in here or somethin'.
732
00:52:30,228 --> 00:52:33,644
The kid is guilty.
Why don't you listen to the facts?
733
00:52:33,732 --> 00:52:36,307
Tell them, will ya?
This is gettin' to be a joke.
734
00:52:36,403 --> 00:52:39,771
The vote is eight to four in favour of guilty.
735
00:52:39,864 --> 00:52:43,615
What is this?
Love Your Underprivileged Brother Week?
736
00:52:43,704 --> 00:52:47,370
I want you to tell me why
you changed your vote. Give me reasons.
737
00:52:47,458 --> 00:52:52,038
I don't have to defend my decision to you.
There is a reasonable doubt in my mind.
738
00:52:52,131 --> 00:52:55,086
Reasonable doubt?
Nothing but words. Look at this.
739
00:52:55,177 --> 00:53:00,173
The kid you just decided isn't guilty
was seen ramming this into his father!
740
00:53:00,266 --> 00:53:05,143
- What about this, Mr Reasonable Doubt?
- That's not the knife, remember?
741
00:53:05,230 --> 00:53:09,811
- Oh, brilliant!
- I'm tellin' you, this is the craziest.
742
00:53:09,905 --> 00:53:14,864
I mean, what are we supposed to believe?
You're pullin' stories out of thin air.
743
00:53:14,952 --> 00:53:18,786
A guy like this, if he's sittin' ringside
at the Dempsey-Firpo fight,
744
00:53:18,875 --> 00:53:20,701
he'd be trying to tell you that...
745
00:53:21,252 --> 00:53:23,542
Look. Now what about the old man?
746
00:53:23,631 --> 00:53:27,333
Are we supposed to believe he didn't
see the kid tearin' down the steps
747
00:53:27,428 --> 00:53:29,384
15 seconds after the killing?
748
00:53:29,512 --> 00:53:32,135
He's just sayin' so to be important, right?
749
00:53:32,225 --> 00:53:34,349
- What's the point of it all?
- Hold it.
750
00:53:34,436 --> 00:53:36,725
The Baltimore rooter is heard from again.
751
00:53:36,813 --> 00:53:40,351
- And pop-ups are fallin' for base hits.
- Hold on a second. Look.
752
00:53:40,445 --> 00:53:43,979
- Did the old man say he ran to the door?
- What's the difference?
753
00:53:44,074 --> 00:53:48,155
- He got there, didn't he?
- He said he ran. At least I think he did.
754
00:53:48,245 --> 00:53:51,450
I don't remember, but I don't see
how he could have run.
755
00:53:51,542 --> 00:53:55,125
He said he went from his bedroom
to the front door. Isn't that enough?
756
00:53:55,213 --> 00:53:57,670
- Where was the bedroom?
- Down the hall.
757
00:53:57,759 --> 00:54:00,510
- Don't you remember that?
- No.
758
00:54:00,595 --> 00:54:05,674
- I want to see a diagram of the apartment.
- Why don't we have him on trial again?
759
00:54:05,769 --> 00:54:08,057
You're the only one
wants to see exhibits.
760
00:54:08,146 --> 00:54:11,481
- I want to see this one, too.
- I'd like to stop wastin' time.
761
00:54:11,568 --> 00:54:14,819
If we're gonna wade through
that nonsense about the body...
762
00:54:14,905 --> 00:54:20,363
No, but I'd like to know if an old man
who drags one foot cos he had a stroke
763
00:54:20,454 --> 00:54:23,243
can get from his bedroom
to his front door in 15 seconds.
764
00:54:23,333 --> 00:54:25,077
- He said 20.
- He said 15.
765
00:54:25,168 --> 00:54:28,834
- 20. What are you tryin' to distort?
- He said 15.
766
00:54:28,923 --> 00:54:32,091
How does he know how long
15 seconds is? You can't judge that.
767
00:54:32,178 --> 00:54:34,716
He said 15. He was positive about it.
768
00:54:34,806 --> 00:54:37,049
He was an old man! He was confused!
769
00:54:37,142 --> 00:54:40,762
How could he be positive about anything?
770
00:54:47,365 --> 00:54:51,494
I don't see what you're going to prove.
The man said he saw the boy running out.
771
00:54:51,578 --> 00:54:54,864
Let's see if the details bear him out.
As the body hit the floor,
772
00:54:54,958 --> 00:54:58,375
he said he heard footsteps upstairs,
running to the front door.
773
00:54:58,462 --> 00:55:01,665
Heard the upstairs door open,
the footsteps start down.
774
00:55:01,757 --> 00:55:07,513
He said he got to his own door in, at most,
15 seconds. If the killer ran immediately...
775
00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:10,174
- Maybe he didn't.
- The old man said he did.
776
00:55:10,269 --> 00:55:13,603
You oughta be at
that hair-splitters' convention.
777
00:55:13,689 --> 00:55:16,015
Why don't you stop
making smart remarks?
778
00:55:16,109 --> 00:55:20,690
My friend, for your three dollars a day,
you have to listen to everything.
779
00:55:20,783 --> 00:55:26,705
Here's the apartment. The old man's was
directly beneath and exactly the same.
780
00:55:26,791 --> 00:55:32,035
Here are the el tracks, the bedroom, living
room, kitchen, bathroom, hall, stairs.
781
00:55:32,131 --> 00:55:34,373
The old man was in this bedroom here.
782
00:55:34,467 --> 00:55:37,838
He says he crossed to the door,
walked down the hall, opened the door
783
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:41,218
just in time to see the boy
running down the stairs. Am I right?
784
00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:43,634
That's the story, for the 19th time.
785
00:55:43,729 --> 00:55:47,229
- 15 seconds after the body hit the floor.
- Correct.
786
00:55:47,317 --> 00:55:49,395
Now, let's see. It was...
787
00:55:49,487 --> 00:55:53,271
It's 12 feet from the bed to the door.
The hall is 43 feet.
788
00:55:53,366 --> 00:55:56,820
He would have had to walk 12 feet,
open the bedroom door,
789
00:55:56,914 --> 00:56:00,496
walk 43 feet down and open
the front door, all in 15 seconds.
790
00:56:00,584 --> 00:56:02,662
- Could he have done it?
- Sure.
791
00:56:02,754 --> 00:56:05,756
He walks slowly. He needed help
into the witness chair.
792
00:56:05,841 --> 00:56:11,183
- You make it sound like a long walk.
- For an old man who had a stroke, it is.
793
00:56:11,266 --> 00:56:13,839
- What are you doin'?
- I'm gonna try it.
794
00:56:13,935 --> 00:56:16,937
What do you mean?
Why didn't his lawyer bring it up?
795
00:56:17,022 --> 00:56:21,153
- Maybe he just didn't think of it.
- Do you think he's an idiot? It's obvious.
796
00:56:21,237 --> 00:56:24,273
- Did you think of it?
- It don't matter. He didn't bring it up
797
00:56:24,365 --> 00:56:26,360
because he knew it'd hurt his case.
798
00:56:26,452 --> 00:56:30,497
Or because it would have meant bullying
and badgering a helpless old man.
799
00:56:30,581 --> 00:56:33,916
That doesn't sit well with a jury.
Most lawyers avoid it.
800
00:56:34,003 --> 00:56:36,674
- What kind of a bum is he?
- That's what I'm asking.
801
00:56:36,757 --> 00:56:39,794
Pass me that chair.
Those two chairs are the old man's bed.
802
00:56:39,886 --> 00:56:42,673
I just paced off 12 feet.
This is the bedroom door.
803
00:56:42,764 --> 00:56:45,636
That's crazy.
You can't re-create a thing like that.
804
00:56:45,727 --> 00:56:51,185
The hall was 43 feet.
I'll pace from that wall and back again.
805
00:56:51,275 --> 00:56:54,812
This is insane. What are you
wasting everybody's time for?
806
00:56:54,907 --> 00:56:58,192
According to you, it'll only take
15 seconds. We can spare that.
807
00:57:01,580 --> 00:57:03,658
Come on. Knock it off.
808
00:57:03,751 --> 00:57:06,669
OK. OK, OK, killer.
809
00:57:07,463 --> 00:57:09,541
Yeah.
810
00:57:11,344 --> 00:57:15,673
Will you stand there and mark the front
door? It was chain-locked, remember.
811
00:57:15,765 --> 00:57:18,140
- Who's got a watch with a second hand?
- I have.
812
00:57:18,228 --> 00:57:22,641
Stamp your foot. That'll be the body
falling. You can time me from there.
813
00:57:22,733 --> 00:57:26,780
- What are we gonna do, play charades?
- What are we waiting for?
814
00:57:26,864 --> 00:57:29,272
I wanna wait till
the second hand reaches 60.
815
00:57:29,367 --> 00:57:31,443
Aw, come on!
816
00:57:37,712 --> 00:57:42,041
Come on, speed it up.
He can walk twice as fast as that.
817
00:57:42,133 --> 00:57:45,883
If you want me to walk
faster than that, I will.
818
00:58:01,533 --> 00:58:04,738
- Lock. Door. Stop.
- Right.
819
00:58:04,830 --> 00:58:06,822
What's the time?
820
00:58:06,915 --> 00:58:10,120
Exactly... 41 seconds.
821
00:58:10,212 --> 00:58:14,709
This is what I think happened. The old
man heard the fight a few hours earlier.
822
00:58:14,801 --> 00:58:17,472
When he's in bed,
he heard the body hit the floor,
823
00:58:17,555 --> 00:58:21,090
heard the woman scream, got to
his front door as fast as he could,
824
00:58:21,184 --> 00:58:23,759
heard somebody running
and assumed it was the boy.
825
00:58:23,854 --> 00:58:26,974
- I think that's possible.
- Assumed?
826
00:58:28,443 --> 00:58:31,398
Brother, I've seen all kinds
of dishonesty in my day,
827
00:58:31,489 --> 00:58:34,444
but this little display takes the cake.
828
00:58:34,536 --> 00:58:39,448
You all come in here with your hearts
bleedin' about slum kids and injustice.
829
00:58:39,542 --> 00:58:43,836
You listen to some fairy tales. You start
getting through to these old ladies.
830
00:58:43,921 --> 00:58:46,793
You're not getting through to me.
I've had enough.
831
00:58:46,883 --> 00:58:51,098
What's the matter with you guys?
You all know he's guilty! He's got to burn!
832
00:58:51,182 --> 00:58:54,600
- He'll slip through our fingers.
- Slip through our fingers?
833
00:58:54,687 --> 00:58:58,601
- Are you his executioner?
- I'm one of 'em.
834
00:58:58,692 --> 00:59:02,642
- Perhaps you'd like to pull the switch.
- For this kid, you bet I would.
835
00:59:02,738 --> 00:59:06,607
I feel sorry for you. What it must
feel like to wanna pull the switch!
836
00:59:06,702 --> 00:59:10,701
Ever since you walked in, you've acted
like a self-appointed public avenger.
837
00:59:10,791 --> 00:59:14,837
You want to see this boy die because
you want it, not because of the facts.
838
00:59:14,922 --> 00:59:17,460
- You're a sadist.
- You...
839
00:59:17,550 --> 00:59:21,298
Let me go! I'll kill him! I'll kill him!
840
00:59:21,387 --> 00:59:24,675
You don't really mean
you'll kill me, do you?
841
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:34,894
- Anything wrong? I heard some noise.
- No, everything's all right.
842
00:59:34,988 --> 00:59:37,742
We're just... Friendly little argument.
843
00:59:37,826 --> 00:59:43,035
We're through with that diagram.
You can take it if you want. Here you are.
844
00:59:49,632 --> 00:59:52,124
What are you lookin' at?
845
01:00:12,411 --> 01:00:15,283
- Somebody has to start off again.
- I beg pardon...
846
01:00:15,374 --> 01:00:18,292
"I beg pardon."
What are you so polite about?
847
01:00:18,378 --> 01:00:23,540
For the same reason you're not.
It's the way I was brought up.
848
01:00:24,554 --> 01:00:28,504
This fighting... That's not
why we are here, to fight.
849
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,092
We have a responsibility.
850
01:00:32,229 --> 01:00:36,644
This, I have always thought,
is a remarkable thing about democracy.
851
01:00:36,735 --> 01:00:39,026
That we are...
852
01:00:40,449 --> 01:00:42,525
What is the word?
853
01:00:42,619 --> 01:00:46,950
Notified. That we are notified by mail
to come down to this place
854
01:00:47,041 --> 01:00:54,339
to decide on the guilt or innocence of a
man we... we have never heard of before.
855
01:00:54,426 --> 01:00:59,634
We have nothing to gain or lose
by... by our verdict.
856
01:00:59,724 --> 01:01:03,937
This is one of the reasons
why we are strong.
857
01:01:04,022 --> 01:01:07,972
We should not make it a... personal thing.
858
01:01:11,532 --> 01:01:15,150
If nobody else has an idea,
I might have a cutie here.
859
01:01:15,243 --> 01:01:17,782
Let's throw it out
and see if the cat licks it up.
860
01:01:17,872 --> 01:01:20,329
- The cat licks it up?
- Yeah. The boy...
861
01:01:24,964 --> 01:01:30,388
Look how dark it's gettin' out there.
I bet we're gonna have a storm now.
862
01:01:31,433 --> 01:01:34,718
Boy, oh boy. It's really hot, huh?
863
01:01:35,437 --> 01:01:40,680
- Pardon me, but... don't you ever sweat?
- No, I don't.
864
01:01:42,028 --> 01:01:45,317
Listen. I... I was wonderin' if...
865
01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:49,615
Maybe... maybe we should
take another vote.
866
01:01:49,706 --> 01:01:54,997
Great. Maybe we can follow this one up
with a little dancing and refreshments!
867
01:01:55,087 --> 01:01:58,208
- Mr Foreman?
- Well, that's OK with me.
868
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:02,050
Anyone doesn't wanna vote?
Hey, come on.
869
01:02:02,932 --> 01:02:05,886
- Sorry.
- I think we ought to have an open ballot.
870
01:02:05,977 --> 01:02:09,263
Call out our votes, you know?
Let's see who stands where.
871
01:02:09,356 --> 01:02:12,892
Well, that sounds fair to me.
Anyone object?
872
01:02:14,696 --> 01:02:18,232
OK. I'll call off your jury numbers. One?
873
01:02:18,326 --> 01:02:21,578
Oh, that's me. I vote guilty. Two?
874
01:02:23,082 --> 01:02:24,991
Not guilty.
875
01:02:25,084 --> 01:02:26,829
Number three?
876
01:02:26,921 --> 01:02:28,830
Guilty.
877
01:02:28,923 --> 01:02:31,001
Number four?
878
01:02:32,220 --> 01:02:33,880
Guilty.
879
01:02:33,972 --> 01:02:35,515
Number five?
880
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,675
Not guilty.
881
01:02:37,768 --> 01:02:39,892
Number six?
882
01:02:39,979 --> 01:02:41,936
Not guilty.
883
01:02:42,023 --> 01:02:43,733
Number seven?
884
01:02:43,818 --> 01:02:45,610
Guilty.
885
01:02:45,696 --> 01:02:47,570
Number eight?
886
01:02:47,656 --> 01:02:49,733
Not guilty.
887
01:02:50,869 --> 01:02:53,825
- Number nine?
- Not guilty.
888
01:02:53,916 --> 01:02:56,869
- Number ten?
- Guilty.
889
01:02:57,751 --> 01:02:59,746
Number eleven?
890
01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:01,666
Not guilty.
891
01:03:01,758 --> 01:03:03,835
Number twelve?
892
01:03:04,220 --> 01:03:06,462
Number twelve!
893
01:03:06,556 --> 01:03:08,846
Guilty.
894
01:03:14,149 --> 01:03:16,819
The vote is now six to six.
895
01:03:16,903 --> 01:03:19,822
And we go into extra innings here, eh?
896
01:03:21,242 --> 01:03:26,486
Six to six! I'm telling you, some of you
people in here must be out of your minds.
897
01:03:26,582 --> 01:03:28,160
A kid like that!
898
01:03:28,251 --> 01:03:31,702
I don't think the kind of boy he is
has anything to do with it.
899
01:03:31,796 --> 01:03:34,549
- Facts determine the case.
- Don't give me that!
900
01:03:34,634 --> 01:03:37,839
I'm sick and tired of facts.
You can twist 'em any way you like.
901
01:03:37,931 --> 01:03:41,216
That's exactly the point
this gentleman has been making.
902
01:03:41,309 --> 01:03:44,097
You keep shouting
at the top of your lungs...
903
01:03:45,399 --> 01:03:49,527
I'd like to be a few years younger.
That man gets on my...
904
01:03:52,908 --> 01:03:55,399
- My, it's hot in here.
- Want a drink of water?
905
01:03:55,494 --> 01:03:57,570
No, no. Thanks. Thanks.
906
01:04:07,177 --> 01:04:11,673
- It's gonna rain.
- Well, how'd you figure that out, killer?
907
01:04:12,683 --> 01:04:17,228
- How come you changed your vote?
- It just seemed there was room for doubt.
908
01:04:17,314 --> 01:04:20,351
- You haven't got a leg to stand on.
- I don't feel that way.
909
01:04:20,444 --> 01:04:23,647
- A lot of details never came out.
- Yeah, well, good luck.
910
01:04:23,739 --> 01:04:29,495
Come on. You're like everybody else.
You think too much, you get mixed up.
911
01:04:29,580 --> 01:04:33,581
- You know what I mean?
- I don't think you have any right to...
912
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:35,746
Loudmouth.
913
01:05:29,033 --> 01:05:32,071
Look at that come down, will ya?
914
01:05:32,663 --> 01:05:37,291
You know, this reminds me
of a storm we had last...
915
01:05:38,669 --> 01:05:42,289
Was it November?
I don't know. Something.
916
01:05:42,383 --> 01:05:46,252
It was quite a storm we had.
It was right in the middle of a game.
917
01:05:46,347 --> 01:05:51,390
We were behind-seven to six. We'd just
started to move the ball, made a tackle.
918
01:05:51,478 --> 01:05:56,273
It was gonna cut right in, slash through,
slashed right in, cut right through...
919
01:05:56,361 --> 01:05:58,437
And...
920
01:05:58,948 --> 01:06:01,438
We had this kid - Slattery.
921
01:06:02,492 --> 01:06:04,986
He was an ox. A real ox.
922
01:06:05,832 --> 01:06:08,238
I wish I had another one just like him.
923
01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:12,796
I forgot to tell you. I'm the assistant head
coach at Andrew J McCorkle High School.
924
01:06:12,883 --> 01:06:15,124
That's out in Queens.
925
01:06:15,218 --> 01:06:19,881
And anyway... we're starting
to move along real nice.
926
01:06:19,973 --> 01:06:24,685
You know, their whole line is just...
just comin' apart.
927
01:06:24,772 --> 01:06:28,390
And it starts to come down,
cats and dogs, just like this.
928
01:06:28,484 --> 01:06:32,271
Just... whoosh! You know, right down.
929
01:06:32,366 --> 01:06:35,819
Well, it was murder, you know?
930
01:06:35,912 --> 01:06:41,120
I swear, I... I nearly bawled.
Just... We couldn't go nowhere.
931
01:06:59,191 --> 01:07:02,776
Hey, what is it with this fan here?
How come...
932
01:07:12,626 --> 01:07:15,545
Must have been
on the same switch with the lights.
933
01:07:15,631 --> 01:07:18,632
Well, things are lookin' up here, huh?
934
01:07:19,342 --> 01:07:21,421
Yeah.
935
01:07:25,643 --> 01:07:27,719
Boy, that's better.
936
01:07:34,405 --> 01:07:36,896
Hey! Two points.
937
01:07:41,748 --> 01:07:44,583
You guys ever go to the Garden?
938
01:07:46,003 --> 01:07:48,875
That's a damn stupid thing to do.
939
01:07:48,965 --> 01:07:51,041
Oh, I'm sorry. I...
940
01:07:52,177 --> 01:07:54,254
You know?
941
01:07:55,348 --> 01:07:57,721
Pardon me.
942
01:07:57,810 --> 01:08:02,640
Well, how do you like it? Even-steven.
Pretty surprising, isn't it?
943
01:08:02,734 --> 01:08:04,810
Yes.
944
01:08:06,029 --> 01:08:11,072
That... business before, when that tall guy,
whatshisname, was tryin' to bait me?
945
01:08:11,161 --> 01:08:14,994
That doesn't prove anything.
I'm a... pretty excitable person.
946
01:08:15,082 --> 01:08:18,868
Where does he come off
calling me a public avenger, a sadist?
947
01:08:18,963 --> 01:08:22,628
Anyone in his right mind
would blow his stack.
948
01:08:22,717 --> 01:08:24,959
He was just tryin' to bait me.
949
01:08:25,052 --> 01:08:27,545
He did an excellent job.
950
01:08:29,602 --> 01:08:31,725
I think we're going nowhere here.
951
01:08:31,812 --> 01:08:34,387
I'm ready to walk into court
and declare a hung jury.
952
01:08:34,483 --> 01:08:37,733
- There's no point in this thing going on.
- I go for that, too.
953
01:08:37,820 --> 01:08:40,525
Let the kid take his chance
with 12 other guys.
954
01:08:40,615 --> 01:08:43,868
The judge won't accept a hung jury.
We haven't been here long.
955
01:08:43,954 --> 01:08:46,991
- Well, let's find out.
- I am not in favour of that.
956
01:08:47,083 --> 01:08:50,618
This kid wouldn't stand a chance
with another jury, and you know it.
957
01:08:50,711 --> 01:08:53,630
Come on, we're hung.
Nobody's gonna change his vote.
958
01:08:53,715 --> 01:08:57,086
- Still no room for reasonable doubt?
- No.
959
01:08:57,179 --> 01:09:02,388
Pardon. Maybe you don't fully understand
the term "reasonable doubt".
960
01:09:02,478 --> 01:09:05,599
What do you mean, I don't understand?
961
01:09:05,690 --> 01:09:09,024
How do you like this guy?
I'm tellin' you, they're all alike.
962
01:09:09,111 --> 01:09:11,863
They come over here
and before they can take a breath,
963
01:09:11,948 --> 01:09:14,653
they're telling us how to run the show.
964
01:09:14,743 --> 01:09:17,829
- Boy, the arrogance of this guy!
- All right.
965
01:09:17,915 --> 01:09:21,118
Let's stop the arguing
for about two minutes in here.
966
01:09:21,210 --> 01:09:23,749
Now, who's got
something constructive to say?
967
01:09:23,839 --> 01:09:27,255
I'd like to go over something,
if you gentlemen don't mind.
968
01:09:27,343 --> 01:09:29,800
An important point
for the prosecution was
969
01:09:29,889 --> 01:09:34,967
the fact that after the boy claimed he was
at the movies when the killing took place,
970
01:09:35,063 --> 01:09:39,142
he couldn't remember the names
of the movies or who starred in them.
971
01:09:39,232 --> 01:09:43,185
- This gentleman has made that point.
- That's correct.
972
01:09:43,281 --> 01:09:47,742
It's the only alibi the boy offered, and
he couldn't back it up with any details.
973
01:09:47,827 --> 01:09:50,949
In the boy's place,
do you think you could remember details
974
01:09:51,041 --> 01:09:54,541
after an upsetting experience
such as being slapped by your father?
975
01:09:54,628 --> 01:09:57,915
I think so, if there were
any special details to remember.
976
01:09:58,008 --> 01:10:01,343
The boy couldn't remember the movies
because he wasn't there.
977
01:10:01,429 --> 01:10:06,389
According to the police testimony,
the boy was questioned in the kitchen,
978
01:10:06,477 --> 01:10:09,396
while the body of his father
was lying in the bedroom.
979
01:10:09,482 --> 01:10:11,937
Do you think
you could remember details?
980
01:10:12,026 --> 01:10:14,150
- I do.
- Under great emotional stress?
981
01:10:14,237 --> 01:10:18,403
- Under great emotional stress.
- He remembered them correctly in court.
982
01:10:18,493 --> 01:10:22,159
Yes. His lawyer took great pains
to bring that out.
983
01:10:22,247 --> 01:10:26,295
He had three months to the day of the trial
in which to memorise them.
984
01:10:26,379 --> 01:10:30,923
It's not difficult for a lawyer to find out
what played on a particular night.
985
01:10:31,009 --> 01:10:34,629
I'll take the testimony
from right after the murder,
986
01:10:34,723 --> 01:10:39,052
when he couldn't remember a thing about
the movies, great emotional stress or not.
987
01:10:39,395 --> 01:10:42,682
- I'd like to ask you a personal question.
- Go ahead.
988
01:10:42,775 --> 01:10:45,979
- Where were you last night?
- I was home all night.
989
01:10:46,070 --> 01:10:48,562
- How about the night before that?
- What is this?
990
01:10:48,657 --> 01:10:52,526
It's all right. I left the office at 8.30
and went straight home and to bed.
991
01:10:52,620 --> 01:10:56,915
- And the night before that?
- That was... Tuesday night.
992
01:10:57,001 --> 01:10:59,957
- The bridge tournament. I played bridge.
- Monday night?
993
01:11:00,047 --> 01:11:03,500
When you get to
New Year's Eve 1954, let me know.
994
01:11:05,345 --> 01:11:11,717
Monday night? Monday night...
my wife and I went to the movies.
995
01:11:11,812 --> 01:11:14,769
- What did you see?
- The Scarlet Circle. A whodunit.
996
01:11:14,859 --> 01:11:17,731
- What was the second feature?
- The...
997
01:11:19,573 --> 01:11:22,278
I'll tell you in a minute. The...
998
01:11:22,368 --> 01:11:24,444
Remarkable Mrs...
999
01:11:25,830 --> 01:11:27,907
Something.
1000
01:11:29,127 --> 01:11:31,701
Mrs Bainbridge.
The Remarkable Mrs Bainbridge.
1001
01:11:31,798 --> 01:11:35,545
I saw that. It's called
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
1002
01:11:35,634 --> 01:11:38,208
Yes. The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge.
1003
01:11:38,304 --> 01:11:40,845
Who was in
The Amazing Mrs Bainbridge?
1004
01:11:40,934 --> 01:11:44,767
Barbara... Long, I think it was.
1005
01:11:44,856 --> 01:11:47,227
A dark, very pretty girl.
1006
01:11:48,152 --> 01:11:51,521
- Ling or... Long. Something like that.
- Who else?
1007
01:11:51,614 --> 01:11:53,773
I'd never heard of them before.
1008
01:11:53,867 --> 01:11:58,495
It was a very inexpensive
second feature, with unknown...
1009
01:11:58,581 --> 01:12:02,746
And you weren't under
an emotional stress, were you?
1010
01:12:04,464 --> 01:12:06,541
No.
1011
01:12:06,634 --> 01:12:08,710
I wasn't.
1012
01:12:10,263 --> 01:12:13,266
- I think the point is made.
- Big point.
1013
01:12:14,937 --> 01:12:18,852
You can talk till your tongue is
draggin' on the floor. The boy is guilty.
1014
01:12:18,942 --> 01:12:21,183
Know what I mean, my friend?
1015
01:12:21,277 --> 01:12:25,442
- You got those cough drops?
- They're all gone, my friend.
1016
01:12:26,743 --> 01:12:30,790
Oh, boy. Look at that rain.
There goes your ball game.
1017
01:12:31,416 --> 01:12:33,742
It's only a shower.
1018
01:12:33,836 --> 01:12:36,541
Besides, they got the infield covered.
1019
01:12:36,630 --> 01:12:40,132
Say, could I see that knife
a second, please?
1020
01:12:41,930 --> 01:12:46,558
Well, we're still tied up six to six.
Who's got a suggestion?
1021
01:12:46,644 --> 01:12:50,808
- It's 5 after 6. Let's get some dinner.
- Why don't we wait till 7 o'clock?
1022
01:12:50,899 --> 01:12:51,766
OK with me.
1023
01:12:53,319 --> 01:12:56,903
There's something I'd like to say.
It's been bothering me a little,
1024
01:12:56,991 --> 01:12:59,281
and as long as we're stuck...
1025
01:12:59,369 --> 01:13:03,239
There was this whole business about
the stab wound and how it was made.
1026
01:13:03,334 --> 01:13:06,867
- The downward angle of it, you know?
- Don't start with that again.
1027
01:13:06,961 --> 01:13:10,877
- They've been over it and over it.
- I know, but I don't go along with it.
1028
01:13:10,967 --> 01:13:15,049
The boy was five feet seven inches tall.
His father was six two.
1029
01:13:15,139 --> 01:13:17,466
That's a difference of seven inches.
1030
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:21,855
It's very awkward to stab down into the
chest of someone over half a foot taller.
1031
01:13:21,940 --> 01:13:24,396
Give me that.
1032
01:13:24,485 --> 01:13:28,235
I'll give you a demonstration.
Somebody get up.
1033
01:13:35,331 --> 01:13:37,706
Watch this - I don't wanna
have to do it again.
1034
01:13:37,794 --> 01:13:40,665
I'll make myself about
six or seven inches shorter.
1035
01:13:40,756 --> 01:13:44,422
- That's about right. Maybe a little more.
- OK, a little more.
1036
01:13:55,943 --> 01:13:58,435
Now... nobody's hurt.
1037
01:13:59,322 --> 01:14:01,815
- Right?
- Right. Nobody hurt.
1038
01:14:05,789 --> 01:14:10,785
Now, this is the way I'd stab a man
who was... taller than I was.
1039
01:14:10,879 --> 01:14:13,371
Look at the angle. Down and in.
1040
01:14:13,466 --> 01:14:17,216
And this is the way it was done.
Now tell me I'm wrong.
1041
01:14:20,016 --> 01:14:23,267
- Down and in. There's no argument.
- Hold on a minute.
1042
01:14:23,353 --> 01:14:25,429
Will you give me that?
1043
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:28,226
Boy, I hate these things.
1044
01:14:28,319 --> 01:14:31,487
- Did you ever see a knife fight?
- No.
1045
01:14:31,573 --> 01:14:34,609
Anybody here ever see a knife fight?
1046
01:14:34,701 --> 01:14:39,828
Well, I have. You know, on my back stoop,
the lot across the street, back yard.
1047
01:14:39,917 --> 01:14:42,289
Switchblades came
with the neighbourhood.
1048
01:14:42,378 --> 01:14:45,465
Funny I never thought of it before.
I guess you try to forget.
1049
01:14:45,550 --> 01:14:50,710
- How do you use a switchblade?
- Well, you'd never use it like this.
1050
01:14:50,805 --> 01:14:54,259
See, you'd lose too much time
switching hands.
1051
01:14:54,936 --> 01:14:57,428
Here's how. Underhand.
1052
01:15:00,069 --> 01:15:03,235
Anyone who's ever used one
wouldn't handle it any other way.
1053
01:15:03,321 --> 01:15:05,731
- Are you sure?
- I'm sure.
1054
01:15:05,825 --> 01:15:10,489
- It's why they're made to open like that.
- The boy was pretty handy with a knife?
1055
01:15:10,582 --> 01:15:13,667
You think he could have made
the wound that killed his father?
1056
01:15:13,752 --> 01:15:17,798
No. Not with the experience he got
all his life handling these things.
1057
01:15:17,883 --> 01:15:21,050
- I feel he'd have gone for him underhand.
- How do you know?
1058
01:15:21,137 --> 01:15:25,088
- Were you there when he was killed?
- No. Neither was anybody else.
1059
01:15:25,184 --> 01:15:28,436
What are you giving us this
mumbo jumbo for? I don't believe it.
1060
01:15:28,522 --> 01:15:31,772
I don't think you can tell
what wound he might have made
1061
01:15:31,859 --> 01:15:34,316
simply because he knew
how to handle a knife.
1062
01:15:34,405 --> 01:15:37,524
- What do you think?
- I don't know.
1063
01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:41,034
- What do you mean, you don't know?
- I don't know.
1064
01:15:45,211 --> 01:15:48,081
- How about you?
- I don't know about the rest of 'em,
1065
01:15:48,172 --> 01:15:52,253
but I'm gettin' tired of this
yakety-yakkin'. It's gettin' us nowhere.
1066
01:15:52,345 --> 01:15:57,222
So I guess I'll have to break it up.
I'm changin' my vote to not guilty.
1067
01:15:57,308 --> 01:16:00,346
- You're what?
- You heard me. I've had enough.
1068
01:16:00,438 --> 01:16:05,813
- You've had enough? That's no answer.
- Listen, you just take care of yourself.
1069
01:16:05,902 --> 01:16:08,361
- You know?
- He's right.
1070
01:16:08,740 --> 01:16:11,198
That's not an answer.
1071
01:16:11,286 --> 01:16:14,204
What kind of a man are you?
1072
01:16:14,290 --> 01:16:17,456
You have sat here and voted
guilty with everyone else
1073
01:16:17,543 --> 01:16:21,838
because there are some baseball tickets
burning a hole in your pocket.
1074
01:16:21,924 --> 01:16:26,837
Now you have changed your vote because
you say you're sick of all the talking?
1075
01:16:26,931 --> 01:16:30,716
- Now, listen, buddy...
- Who tells you that you have the right
1076
01:16:30,812 --> 01:16:33,813
to play like this with a man's life?
Don't you care...
1077
01:16:33,899 --> 01:16:37,184
Now, wait a minute.
You can't talk like that to me.
1078
01:16:37,277 --> 01:16:41,776
I can talk like that to you.
If you want to vote not guilty,
1079
01:16:41,867 --> 01:16:46,329
do it because you are convinced he is not
guilty, not because you've had enough.
1080
01:16:46,415 --> 01:16:49,202
And if you think he is guilty,
then vote that way.
1081
01:16:49,294 --> 01:16:52,212
Or don't you have the guts
to do what you think is right?
1082
01:16:52,297 --> 01:16:55,252
- Now, listen...
- Guilty or not guilty?
1083
01:16:55,343 --> 01:16:58,963
- I told you. Not guilty.
- Why?
1084
01:17:00,851 --> 01:17:05,598
- Look, I don't have to...
- You do have to. Say it. Why?
1085
01:17:05,689 --> 01:17:08,016
I... I don't think he's guilty.
1086
01:17:17,496 --> 01:17:21,709
- I want another vote.
- OK, that's another vote called for.
1087
01:17:21,793 --> 01:17:24,832
I guess the quickest way
is a show of hands. Anyone object?
1088
01:17:24,924 --> 01:17:27,760
OK, all those voting not guilty,
raise your hands.
1089
01:17:28,136 --> 01:17:30,259
One, two, three,
1090
01:17:30,682 --> 01:17:33,802
four, five, six, seven...
1091
01:17:36,438 --> 01:17:38,514
eight.
1092
01:17:43,406 --> 01:17:45,482
Nine.
1093
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,411
All those voting guilty, raise your hands.
1094
01:17:50,499 --> 01:17:52,787
One, two, three.
1095
01:17:52,876 --> 01:17:56,330
Well, the vote's nine to three
in favour of acquittal.
1096
01:17:56,507 --> 01:17:58,298
I don't understand you people!
1097
01:17:58,384 --> 01:18:02,382
All these picky little points you keep
bringing up, they don't mean nothing!
1098
01:18:02,472 --> 01:18:04,180
You saw this kid just like I did.
1099
01:18:04,266 --> 01:18:07,767
Don't tell me you believe that
phoney story about losing the knife
1100
01:18:07,855 --> 01:18:09,930
and about being at the movies.
1101
01:18:10,023 --> 01:18:13,061
Look, you know how these people lie.
It's born in them.
1102
01:18:13,153 --> 01:18:17,197
What the heck? I don't have to tell you.
They don't know what the truth is!
1103
01:18:17,282 --> 01:18:20,903
And they don't need any real big reason
to kill someone, either.
1104
01:18:20,996 --> 01:18:25,908
No, sir. They get drunk.
They're real big drinkers, all of 'em.
1105
01:18:26,002 --> 01:18:29,089
You know that. And bang!
Someone's lying in the gutter.
1106
01:18:29,174 --> 01:18:32,258
Nobody's blaming 'em.
That's the way they are by nature.
1107
01:18:32,344 --> 01:18:35,844
You know what I mean? Violent.
Where are you going?
1108
01:18:35,931 --> 01:18:40,097
Human life don't mean
as much to them as it does to us.
1109
01:18:40,187 --> 01:18:42,809
They're lushing it up
and fighting all the time,
1110
01:18:42,899 --> 01:18:46,566
and if somebody gets killed,
somebody gets killed! They don't care!
1111
01:18:46,654 --> 01:18:50,701
Sure, there's some good things about 'em,
too. I'm the first one to say that.
1112
01:18:50,785 --> 01:18:54,368
I've known a couple who were OK,
but that's the exception.
1113
01:18:54,456 --> 01:18:58,123
Most of 'em, it's like they have
no feelings! They can do anything!
1114
01:18:58,211 --> 01:19:00,288
What's going on here?
1115
01:19:01,007 --> 01:19:05,053
I'm trying to tell you.
You're making a big mistake, you people.
1116
01:19:05,137 --> 01:19:08,886
This kid is a liar. I know it.
I know all about them.
1117
01:19:09,851 --> 01:19:11,929
Listen to me. They're no good.
1118
01:19:12,022 --> 01:19:14,727
There's not a one of 'em who's any good.
1119
01:19:16,485 --> 01:19:18,977
I mean, what's happening in here?
1120
01:19:19,072 --> 01:19:21,647
I speak my piece, and you...
1121
01:19:22,451 --> 01:19:24,528
Listen to me.
1122
01:19:25,287 --> 01:19:27,781
I... We're... we're...
1123
01:19:27,876 --> 01:19:32,454
This kid on trial here. His type.
Well, don't you know about them?
1124
01:19:33,299 --> 01:19:35,789
There's a... There's a danger here.
1125
01:19:36,844 --> 01:19:39,005
These people are dangerous.
1126
01:19:39,098 --> 01:19:41,387
They're... wild.
1127
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:44,803
Listen to me. Listen to me.
1128
01:19:45,398 --> 01:19:49,396
I have. Now, sit down
and don't open your mouth again.
1129
01:19:53,326 --> 01:19:56,161
Some of the time... I tell you.
1130
01:20:32,583 --> 01:20:38,090
It's always difficult to keep personal
prejudice out of a thing like this.
1131
01:20:38,175 --> 01:20:43,681
Wherever you run into it,
prejudice always obscures the truth.
1132
01:20:43,766 --> 01:20:46,138
I don't really know what the truth is.
1133
01:20:46,226 --> 01:20:50,440
I don't suppose anybody
will ever really know.
1134
01:20:50,524 --> 01:20:54,310
Nine of us now seem to feel
that the defendant is innocent.
1135
01:20:54,404 --> 01:20:59,530
But we're just gambling on
probabilities. We may be wrong.
1136
01:20:59,619 --> 01:21:05,576
We may be trying to let a guilty man
go free. I don't know. Nobody really can.
1137
01:21:05,669 --> 01:21:07,958
But we have a reasonable doubt.
1138
01:21:08,047 --> 01:21:11,797
And that's something
that's very valuable in our system.
1139
01:21:11,886 --> 01:21:16,513
No jury can declare a man guilty
unless it's sure.
1140
01:21:17,643 --> 01:21:23,018
We nine can't understand
how you three are still so sure.
1141
01:21:24,026 --> 01:21:26,518
- Maybe you can tell us.
- I'll try.
1142
01:21:27,365 --> 01:21:31,028
You've made some excellent points,
but I still believe the boy is guilty.
1143
01:21:31,118 --> 01:21:35,581
I have two reasons. One: The evidence
given by the woman across the street,
1144
01:21:35,667 --> 01:21:38,503
who actually saw the murder committed.
1145
01:21:38,587 --> 01:21:41,293
That's the most important testimony.
1146
01:21:41,383 --> 01:21:44,005
And two: The fact that
she described the stabbing
1147
01:21:44,095 --> 01:21:47,215
by saying she saw the boy
raise his arm over his head
1148
01:21:47,306 --> 01:21:50,226
and stab down into the father's chest.
1149
01:21:50,311 --> 01:21:54,309
- She saw him do it, the wrong way.
- That's absolutely right.
1150
01:21:54,774 --> 01:21:57,183
Let's talk about this woman for a moment.
1151
01:21:57,278 --> 01:22:00,445
She said she went to bed
about eleven o'clock that night.
1152
01:22:00,532 --> 01:22:03,867
Her bed was next to the window,
and she could look out
1153
01:22:03,953 --> 01:22:08,082
and see directly into
the boy's room across the street.
1154
01:22:08,167 --> 01:22:10,705
She tossed and turned for over an hour.
1155
01:22:10,795 --> 01:22:14,960
Finally, she turned toward the window
at about 10 minutes after 12,
1156
01:22:15,051 --> 01:22:20,391
and as she looked out, she saw the killing
through the windows of a passing el train.
1157
01:22:20,474 --> 01:22:22,882
She said the lights went out
after the killing,
1158
01:22:22,977 --> 01:22:28,769
but that she got a good look at the boy
in the act of stabbing his father.
1159
01:22:28,861 --> 01:22:33,404
As far as I can see it,
this is unshakeable testimony.
1160
01:22:33,491 --> 01:22:37,027
- Well, that's the whole case.
- What do you think?
1161
01:22:41,711 --> 01:22:43,788
How about you?
1162
01:22:45,089 --> 01:22:51,379
I don't know. So much evidence to sift.
This is a pretty complicated business.
1163
01:22:51,473 --> 01:22:55,425
Frankly, I don't see how
you can vote for acquittal.
1164
01:22:55,521 --> 01:22:59,685
- It's not so easy to arrange the evidence.
- Throw out all the other evidence!
1165
01:22:59,775 --> 01:23:03,394
The woman saw him do it!
What else do you want?
1166
01:23:03,488 --> 01:23:05,648
- Well, maybe...
- Let's vote on it.
1167
01:23:05,742 --> 01:23:09,611
OK, there's another vote called for.
Anyone object?
1168
01:23:09,706 --> 01:23:11,948
All right. I'm changing my vote.
1169
01:23:12,041 --> 01:23:15,246
- He's guilty.
- Anybody else? The vote is eight to four.
1170
01:23:15,338 --> 01:23:18,872
Why is this such a personal triumph
for you, this one vote?
1171
01:23:18,966 --> 01:23:22,420
OK. I say we're a hung jury.
I say we take it in to the judge.
1172
01:23:22,514 --> 01:23:25,432
How about it? I wanna hear arguments.
1173
01:23:25,518 --> 01:23:29,267
You, you're the leader of the cause.
What about it?
1174
01:23:30,147 --> 01:23:33,934
- Let's go over it again.
- We've been over it again.
1175
01:23:34,029 --> 01:23:38,822
The boy in the grey flannel suit is
bouncin' back and forth like a tennis ball.
1176
01:23:38,910 --> 01:23:44,367
There's no point in getting nasty.
You keep trying to turn this into a contest.
1177
01:23:45,001 --> 01:23:46,080
OK.
1178
01:23:46,168 --> 01:23:49,255
Maybe we can talk about
setting some kind of time limit.
1179
01:23:49,341 --> 01:23:52,259
Yeah. Once around for the deal, huh?
1180
01:23:52,345 --> 01:23:58,183
It's... a quarter after six. Someone
before mentioned seven o'clock.
1181
01:23:58,270 --> 01:24:03,977
That's a point at which we might begin to
discuss whether we're a hung jury or not.
1182
01:24:04,068 --> 01:24:08,945
- Don't you feel well?
- I feel perfectly well, thank you.
1183
01:24:09,032 --> 01:24:11,989
I was saying seven o'clock
would be a reasonable time...
1184
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:16,326
The reason I asked that was because
you were rubbing your nose like...
1185
01:24:16,417 --> 01:24:19,086
Oh, I'm sorry for interrupting.
1186
01:24:19,170 --> 01:24:22,588
But you made a gesture
that reminded me of something.
1187
01:24:22,676 --> 01:24:27,587
- I'm trying to settle something here.
- Well, I think this is important.
1188
01:24:27,807 --> 01:24:32,186
Thank you. Now, then.
I'm sure you'll pardon me for this,
1189
01:24:32,271 --> 01:24:35,309
but I was wondering why
you rub your nose like that.
1190
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,681
Come on, will you?
1191
01:24:36,777 --> 01:24:41,239
At this point I happen to be talking
to the gentleman sitting next to you.
1192
01:24:41,324 --> 01:24:44,741
Now, why were you
rubbing your nose like that?
1193
01:24:44,828 --> 01:24:48,744
If it's any of your business, I was
rubbing it because it bothers me a little.
1194
01:24:48,834 --> 01:24:52,832
Oh, I'm sorry. Is it...
Is it because of your eyeglasses?
1195
01:24:52,922 --> 01:24:56,459
It is. Now could we get on
to something else?
1196
01:24:56,553 --> 01:25:01,096
Your eyeglasses made those two deep
impressions on the sides of your nose.
1197
01:25:01,182 --> 01:25:04,768
I hadn't noticed that before.
That must be annoying.
1198
01:25:04,855 --> 01:25:06,931
It is very annoying.
1199
01:25:07,024 --> 01:25:12,449
I wouldn't know about that.
I've never worn eyeglasses. 20/20.
1200
01:25:12,532 --> 01:25:16,744
Listen, will you come on already
with the optometrist bit?
1201
01:25:16,829 --> 01:25:20,496
The woman who testified
that she saw the killing
1202
01:25:20,585 --> 01:25:24,797
had those same marks
on the sides of her nose.
1203
01:25:24,881 --> 01:25:26,957
Holy smoke! He's right.
1204
01:25:27,050 --> 01:25:32,757
Please. Just give me a minute...
and I'll be finished.
1205
01:25:32,849 --> 01:25:35,805
I don't know if anyone else
noticed that about her.
1206
01:25:35,895 --> 01:25:42,813
I didn't think of it then, but I've been
going over her face... in my mind.
1207
01:25:42,904 --> 01:25:47,152
She had those same marks.
She kept rubbing them in court.
1208
01:25:47,577 --> 01:25:50,994
He's right. She did do that a lot.
1209
01:25:51,082 --> 01:25:54,868
This woman was about 45 years old.
1210
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,878
She was making
a tremendous effort to look 35.
1211
01:25:59,968 --> 01:26:05,510
For her first public appearance.
Heavy make-up. Dyed hair.
1212
01:26:05,601 --> 01:26:09,434
Brand-new clothes that should have
been worn by a younger woman.
1213
01:26:09,523 --> 01:26:15,478
No glasses. Well, women do that.
See if you can get a mental picture of her.
1214
01:26:15,571 --> 01:26:19,108
What do you mean, no glasses? How do
you know whether she wore glasses?
1215
01:26:19,202 --> 01:26:22,572
- Just cos she was rubbin' her nose?
- She had those marks. I saw 'em.
1216
01:26:22,665 --> 01:26:26,036
- So? What do you think that means?
- I'm sick of your yellin'...
1217
01:26:26,129 --> 01:26:27,622
Come on. Forget it.
1218
01:26:27,713 --> 01:26:32,292
Hey, listen. Listen, he's right. I saw
them too. I was the closest one to her.
1219
01:26:32,385 --> 01:26:35,471
She had these things
on the side of her nose.
1220
01:26:35,766 --> 01:26:37,475
What point are you makin'?
1221
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:41,178
She had dyed hair, marks on her nose.
What does that mean?
1222
01:26:41,272 --> 01:26:45,853
Could those marks be made
by anything other than eyeglasses?
1223
01:26:49,282 --> 01:26:51,407
No. They couldn't.
1224
01:26:51,495 --> 01:26:53,986
I didn't see any marks!
1225
01:26:55,457 --> 01:26:59,587
I did. Strange,
but I didn't think about it before.
1226
01:26:59,671 --> 01:27:01,914
Why didn't the lawyer say something?
1227
01:27:02,008 --> 01:27:04,962
There are twelve people in here
concentrating on this case.
1228
01:27:05,053 --> 01:27:08,756
- Eleven of us didn't think of it either.
- What about the district attorney?
1229
01:27:08,851 --> 01:27:12,385
You think he'd pull that?
Have her testify without her glasses?
1230
01:27:12,478 --> 01:27:16,728
Ever see a woman who didn't want to
wear them because they spoil her looks?
1231
01:27:16,819 --> 01:27:21,612
OK. She had marks on her nose.
I'm givin' you that.
1232
01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:25,035
From glasses, right? She didn't
wanna wear 'em out of the house
1233
01:27:25,122 --> 01:27:28,158
so people'd think she's gorgeous.
1234
01:27:28,250 --> 01:27:32,579
But when she saw this kid killin'
his father, she was in the house alone.
1235
01:27:32,671 --> 01:27:34,750
That's all.
1236
01:27:34,883 --> 01:27:37,341
Do you wear glasses when you go to bed?
1237
01:27:37,429 --> 01:27:39,505
No. I don't.
1238
01:27:40,557 --> 01:27:42,598
No one wears eyeglasses to bed.
1239
01:27:42,686 --> 01:27:47,265
It's logical to assume
that she wasn't wearing them in bed.
1240
01:27:47,358 --> 01:27:49,815
- How do you know?
- I don't know. I'm guessing.
1241
01:27:49,904 --> 01:27:54,567
I'm also guessing that she didn't put them
on when she looked out of the window.
1242
01:27:54,660 --> 01:27:57,779
She testified the killing
took place just as she looked out.
1243
01:27:57,870 --> 01:28:00,873
The lights went off.
She didn't have time to put them on.
1244
01:28:00,959 --> 01:28:04,828
Here's another guess. She honestly
thought she saw the boy kill his father.
1245
01:28:04,922 --> 01:28:08,424
- I say she only saw a blur.
- How do you know what she saw?
1246
01:28:08,512 --> 01:28:12,010
How does he know all that? How
do you know what glasses she wore?
1247
01:28:12,098 --> 01:28:16,015
Maybe they were sunglasses! Maybe
she was far-sighted! What do you know?
1248
01:28:16,104 --> 01:28:19,106
I only know the woman's eyesight
is in question now.
1249
01:28:19,191 --> 01:28:25,232
She had to be able to identify a person
60 feet away, at night, without glasses.
1250
01:28:25,325 --> 01:28:28,326
You can't send someone off
to die on evidence like that.
1251
01:28:28,412 --> 01:28:29,906
Aw, don't give me that.
1252
01:28:29,997 --> 01:28:32,999
- Might she not have made a mistake?
- No.
1253
01:28:33,210 --> 01:28:36,247
- It's not possible?
- No, it's not possible.
1254
01:28:39,509 --> 01:28:41,586
Is it possible?
1255
01:28:42,472 --> 01:28:44,548
Not guilty.
1256
01:28:48,272 --> 01:28:50,893
Do you think he's guilty?
1257
01:28:50,983 --> 01:28:53,272
I think he's guilty.
1258
01:28:55,781 --> 01:28:57,857
Do you?
1259
01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,614
No.
1260
01:29:01,705 --> 01:29:04,742
I'm convinced. Not guilty.
1261
01:29:04,835 --> 01:29:08,786
- What's the matter with you?
- I have a reasonable doubt now.
1262
01:29:08,881 --> 01:29:11,965
- It's eleven to one.
- What about all the other evidence?
1263
01:29:12,050 --> 01:29:15,636
What about all that stuff? The...
The knife? The whole business?
1264
01:29:15,723 --> 01:29:19,805
Well, you said we could
throw out all the other evidence.
1265
01:29:24,402 --> 01:29:26,893
Well, what do we do now?
1266
01:29:29,741 --> 01:29:31,616
You're alone.
1267
01:29:31,702 --> 01:29:35,998
I don't care whether I'm alone or not.
It's my right.
1268
01:29:38,337 --> 01:29:40,329
It's your right.
1269
01:29:49,810 --> 01:29:52,764
Well, what do you want? I say he's guilty.
1270
01:29:53,606 --> 01:29:57,818
- We want to hear your arguments.
- I gave you my arguments.
1271
01:29:58,237 --> 01:30:01,986
We're not convinced.
We want to hear them again.
1272
01:30:03,117 --> 01:30:05,906
We have as much time as it takes.
1273
01:30:10,878 --> 01:30:17,214
Everything-every single thing that took
place in that courtroom says he's guilty.
1274
01:30:17,303 --> 01:30:20,424
What do you think?
I'm an idiot or somethin'?
1275
01:30:21,476 --> 01:30:27,182
Take that stuff about the old man,
who lived there and heard everything!
1276
01:30:28,443 --> 01:30:32,109
Or this business about the knife.
They found another one exactly like it?
1277
01:30:32,198 --> 01:30:35,698
The old man saw him!
Right there, on the stairs.
1278
01:30:35,786 --> 01:30:39,406
What's the difference
how many seconds it was?
1279
01:30:39,916 --> 01:30:46,170
Every single thing. The knife
fallin' through a hole in his pocket.
1280
01:30:46,257 --> 01:30:49,924
You can't prove he didn't get to the door!
1281
01:30:50,013 --> 01:30:54,760
Sure, you can take all the time, hobble
around the room, but you can't prove it!
1282
01:30:57,313 --> 01:31:00,350
And what about this business of the el?
And the movies?
1283
01:31:00,442 --> 01:31:03,730
There's a phoney deal if I ever heard one.
1284
01:31:03,823 --> 01:31:07,822
I'll bet you $5,000
I'd remember the movies I saw.
1285
01:31:07,912 --> 01:31:14,116
I'm tellin' you, everything that's gone on
has been twisted and turned!
1286
01:31:14,210 --> 01:31:17,912
This business with the glasses?
How do you know she didn't have 'em on?
1287
01:31:18,007 --> 01:31:21,378
This woman testified in open court!
1288
01:31:22,139 --> 01:31:26,005
And what about
hearin' the kid yell? Huh?
1289
01:31:26,100 --> 01:31:30,266
I'm tellin' ya, I've got all the facts here.
1290
01:31:30,691 --> 01:31:32,767
Here...
1291
01:31:34,821 --> 01:31:38,156
Well, that's it. That's the whole case.
1292
01:31:44,625 --> 01:31:46,702
Well?
1293
01:31:48,463 --> 01:31:50,541
Say something!
1294
01:31:55,556 --> 01:31:58,927
You lousy bunch of bleedin' hearts.
1295
01:31:59,727 --> 01:32:04,974
You're not gonna intimidate me.
I'm entitled to my opinion.
1296
01:32:07,531 --> 01:32:11,279
Rotten kids... You work your life out!
1297
01:32:23,176 --> 01:32:25,251
No...
1298
01:32:28,807 --> 01:32:30,885
Not guilty.
1299
01:32:34,107 --> 01:32:36,184
Not guilty.
1300
01:32:51,630 --> 01:32:53,707
We're ready now.
1301
01:34:46,654 --> 01:34:48,731
Hey!
1302
01:34:52,955 --> 01:34:55,956
- What's your name?
- Davis.
1303
01:34:56,041 --> 01:34:58,118
My name's McCardle.
1304
01:35:00,422 --> 01:35:03,128
- Well, so long.
- So long.
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