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Tonight, on The Curse of Oak Island, a special season finale.

I took the gem to a gemologist.

It's a 500-year-old stone.

Get him in the water!

Eyes and boots.

Yes! What is down there, and can we get it out? It's kind of wide like a plate.

We found something red.

Oak Island is for real.

A lot of this looks spendable, David. Yes.

I say we celebrate.

There's treasure on Oak Island.

Yeah!

There is an island in the North Atlantic where people have been looking for an

incredible treasure for more than 200 years.

So far, they have found a stone slab with strange symbols carved into it,

mysterious fragments of human bone, and a lead cross whose origin may stretch

back to the days of the Knights Templar. To date, Six men have died trying to

solve the mystery and according to legend One more will have to die

before the treasure can be found

With

only a few

days remaining before they must shut down operations for the year so This is

an important war room meeting.

Brothers Rick and Marty Lagina have called a meeting in the war room.

They are eager to follow up on what could be one of the most incredible

discoveries in the 223-year-old search for treasure on Oak Island.

I think, Alex, we need to dial up your father and Craig. Get him up.

Hey, guys.

Hey, guys. Hey, Marty.

You know, of the find that Gary made, regarding the brooch and the jewel.

Yeah. OK.

That was weird.

Look at this, Rick. We've got it.

Two days ago, while searching on Lot 8, located near the middle of the island,

Rick Lagina and metal detection expert Gary Drayton discovered a curious

object. Look at that.

Oh, man.

Upon further investigation, it appeared they had found an antique brooch, a

brooch which featured a large, deep red stone.

Rick, we just found a jewel.

That's gorgeous.

Look at how many facets on that. That is a bobby dazzler.

Right, you're all sitting down, which is good, because you're in for a shock.

I took the gem, jewel, to a certified gemologist

in Halifax.

and and basically that's what the stone was because we was all thinking ruby but

the bad news is it's not a ruby but the good news is it's a rhodolite garnet

what exactly is that it's a four or five hundred

year old stone

Four to five hundred years ago puts us in the 15 to the 1600s. And that's

before any searchers, too. That dates back being probably from the original

depositors. Yeah. The right area we want to be in. Yeah.

It's a rhodolite garnet.

A rhodolite garnet is a semi-precious gemstone known for its rose pink to deep

red coloring.

Its use in jewelry dates all the way back to the days of the Egyptian

pharaohs, who used them for both decorative and ceremonial purposes.

But how did such a unique stone come to be found on Oak Island?

Could it be a piece of some kind of pirate treasure, or one of the legendary

lost jewels of Queen Marie Antoinette?

Honestly, I was shocked.

I was shocked when Gary said, hey, that not only is not glass, it is at least a

semi-precious stone, and it could be very old. I'm not totally shocked, but

again, it's that number, 400 to 500 years old possibly, that's a huge

number, and that's surprising.

How does he date that? How do you date a stone?

His opinion was it was a really old cup.

Because remember when we turned it over and you could see the facets on it? Yes.

Well, these were hand-cut.

These weren't machine-made. And these were done before the days when people

thought about refraction and light going through the stones.

You know, where they used to do all the fancy cuts, more modern cuts.

This is a hand-cut gem.

Really? Yep. Wow.

There's one other thing. Yep. It is a silver setting.

When people made silver jewelry long ago, it had an high percentage of copper

in the mix, up to 73%. It wouldn't be that amount of copper

in a modern silver jewelry mix.

Yeah. And this copper color is the copper leaching out.

Oxidizing. Yeah, out of the silver.

And that's how he was able to tell that it was really old because of the patina

on it. Wow.

Pass the gemstone around. Look at that, Charles.

David, I think you might be looking at a spendable right there. Yeah, I think so,

too.

Gemstones on Oak Island.

Yeah!

Yeah, baby!

Yeah, baby!

We got to figure out what it means and bring it to the next expert and all

that. I'm going to do a little research on rhodolite garnet.

I imagine four or five hundred years ago, there might only be a certain

amount of places where such a gem would come from. Yeah, that's it. So that's

great stuff.

Amazing.

A very significant find.

I'm very surprised.

The stone apparently is real with a cut that has not been used for a long, long

time. I mean, it certainly is a wild find, but what does it mean?

Okay, well, we'll move on then.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Carry on. All right. See you. See you later.

Bye, guys.

One day after learning from Gary Drayton... that the deep red stone they

discovered could be a genuine piece of centuries-old jewelry.

Rick Lagina and members of the Oak Island team arrive at the Money Pit site

to meet with diver Mike Huntley and his crew.

I'm just going to spin the bow of the van around so we can see this can here.

Mike has been invited to dive the 60-inch wide exploratory shaft known as

DMT. If successful, he may be able to determine the exact nature of what is

believed to be a large object that has been blocking the team's efforts to

continue digging at the site.

Here's Rick.

Where are we at? Hey, Rick. We're debating and we're hoping.

In the near term, we're going to get real answers from a very significant

question, i.e., what is down there and can we get it out? There's an

obstruction there.

We're good to go, guys.

Several weeks ago, the Oak Island team began digging their second 60-inch-wide

shaft of the year, which they had named DMT, in honor of Craig Tester's late

son, Drake.

They were trying to locate the Chapel Vault, the mysterious seven-foot-tall

wooden box that treasure hunters William Chapel and Frederick Blair first

discovered in 1897.

Although the team is convinced that their first shaft, H8, was successful in

reaching it several weeks ago, they believe it may have been pushed aside by

the drilling caisson.

Unfortunately, two weeks ago, while the team was drilling the DMT shaft, their

drilling caisson encountered an obstruction at a depth of 77 feet.

I think it's a plate that we've encountered, and it's not searcher. It's

most likely from the original people, because it seems inconceivable that

searchers would have put such a big piece of metal down there.

I mean, it has an unexplained anomaly at a depth we didn't expect to hit it at.

So you've got to wonder what's there to exert that pressure.

What do we do if it's a plate, Rick?

That I don't know, Jack. For me, it's just...

I'm not going to multitask. We know that that doesn't work.

He'll make an initial assessment, and that's as far as I care to go on the

first dive.

And then I think we have to come up and then decide.

I mean, we put flocculant in the hole. It's fairly fast-acting. Should get a

really good look.

In order to provide the best visibility possible for the dive operation, Rick

and the team have already treated the DMT shaft with a substance known as

flocculant.

A chemical that causes particles or small debris that could be floating in

water to clump together and settle at the bottom of their environment.

If it turns out to be a plate and he can get around the edge of it, he could

probably explore a little bit under the plate.

It might not even be a steel plate. It could be a box.

That would be something if he put his hands down along the edge and it went

down deeper than what he could get around the edge of.

Something out there.

Having invited professional diver Mike Huntley and his crew to Oak Island, Rick

Lagina is hoping to find out the exact nature of the obstruction that lies at

the bottom of the exploratory drill shaft known as DMT.

We're all very interested in what may be down in this hole.

You know, steel plate at that depth.

That didn't grow down there.

So steel plate would indicate something of value might be below it.

Hey, Mike.

You're going to give us some answers today?

I hope so. Good to see you, man. I hope so, too.

Okay, guys.

Come on over.

Okay, guys, we're going to start with our first dive for today. For the most

part, it's going to be an investigative dive to see what's actually there.

It's 50 feet of water, so we got about 75 minutes without doing decompression.

There's no reason to decompression illness.

or any type of embolism.

Although the shallow depths will not put Mike Huntley and his team at risk of

deadly decompression sickness, otherwise known as the bends,

the Oak Island team has nevertheless arranged for paramedics to be on site in

case of any unforeseen accidents or emergencies.

Let's get wet.

Let's get wet.

Dive's about to begin and I'm always nervous.

Every dive is dangerous or potentially dangerous.

Shallow water dives are the most dangerous because you tend to take

things for granted.

So everyone's head needs to stay in the game.

I hear you loud and clear.

Eyes and boots.

Eyes, boots, and suits.

Eyes, boots, and suits.

Throughout the dive operation, Rick Lagina and the team will be able to

maintain constant audio contact with Mike as well as monitor a live video

feed of his activity in the communications trailer.

Mayonnaise on.

It's good to go.

Hey, Craig.

Hey, Rick. How you doing? Good, good.

Although Rick's brother Marty is currently away on business, their friend

and partner Craig Tester is monitoring today's dive from his office in Traverse

City, Michigan.

We're a few minutes away from

Getting Mike down hole.

75 minutes, bottom time.

Okay, sounds good.

Okay, drop.

Get him in the water.

To ensure a safe descent down the approximately 27 feet to the water in

the DMT shaft, Mike Huntley will be lowered with a device known as a bosun's

chair.

From there...

He will dive down some 50 feet to investigate the obstruction at a depth

of approximately 77 feet.

Because the flocculant that was poured earlier into the DMT shaft has not been

able to clear up the large amount of clay sediment and silt, that still

clouds the water, visibility is near zero.

We're at about 47 feet.

We've lost all visibility, Craig.

Yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all.

Mike will now have to try and determine the nature of the obstruction with only

his sense of touch.

what did he say super super buoyant so whatever's down there's going up

While attempting to dive some 77 feet deep in the DMT shaft, diver Mike

Huntley has encountered an unusual problem.

Almost like spongy?

Is there

flocculant in there already?

He can't stay on bottom. The flock would make a slurry.

Change of buoyancy.

Unfortunately, the flocculant that the team poured down the DMT shaft to aid

Mike Huntley's visibility has not only failed to clear up the water, but is now

causing him to float upward.

The flocculant has reacted with the debris at the bottom of the DMT shaft

and created a thick cloud of a gel-like substance.

that Mike is unable to sink through.

We introduced a lot of flocking.

Unfortunately, now that's counterproductive to what we wanted to

do.

Let's see if he can address this situation with weights.

He's not able to stand on bottom.

He's not able to stand on bottom because it is a tactile dive. He's not going to

be able to feel.

what this obstruction might be.

Okay, Roger, sending down the chair.

Craig, he's coming out of the hall because he just can't get the bottom.

Up on chair, up on the bill, boys, coming out.

Just make sure it's going down slow so it doesn't hit him on top of the head.

Never, never anticipate.

Mike's been here before. He's invested in the process.

He's committed, and he wants answers.

I think we're in an area that has significant potential.

Mike Huntley's dive team will now pack his dive suit with 60 pounds of lead

weights to ensure his ability to reach the bottom of the dmt shaft and to

identify what the obstruction which is preventing further excavation actually

is i did a complete 360 with my feet i haven't felt anything yet on bottom

that's what i'm thinking where the hell is it but i can feel hard bottom that's

the thing i can feel it like boom boom boom just like that i mean there's so

much unknown about the money pit area we we just simply need to know what is this

thing

Roger. I'll stop.

Roger that.

Yeah, we can't see a whole lot up here.

How much flog did they throw in?

I don't know exactly, but enough to grab all the heavy stuff and bring it down.

Perfect.

Now that Mike has reached the bottom some 77 feet deep in the DMT shaft, he

will begin a tactile examination to try to determine for sure what the

obstruction is.

Want me to get Jack?

Jack! Jack!

Jack! They're getting him.

Yeah. Yeah, I think he's hitting bottom, third bottom.

Yes!

So are you saying that preemptively or thinking that it's a plate?

Yeah, that's what it feels. I mean... Oh, man!

It's kind of wide like a plate.

Could the obstruction really be a steel plate, as Mike Huntley suggests?

And if so, what is it protecting?

When he gives an opinion that we are indeed on a metal plate, I mean, that's

an aha moment.

Really? A metal plate at this depth? Again, from a historical context, there

should not be a metal plate there as part of searcher agenda.

So if it's not searcher, it's original.

How deep is it?

How deep is the material that we have to go through?

Because of the near-zero visibility caused by the clay and sediment stirred

up in the 60-inch shaft, Mike Huntley must rely only on his sense of touch to

examine the size and orientation of the believed plate.

You've got 10 minutes.

Okay.

Is there a way he could grab a sample?

You want him to grab a sample? If he can.

Oh, is there any way for you to quick get a sample?

We found something, Rich.

Roger that. We'll get the chair sent down.

With Mike Huntley's dive time in the DMT shaft running out, it is the team's hope

that by collecting samples from the bottom some 77 feet below ground, Mike

will obtain proof of a believed steel plate and perhaps whatever it might have

been put there to protect.

That was one of the most frustrating dives I've done.

Yeah. I don't know what's there.

I stuck that knife 1 to 12 o'clock, center to the edge. In some spots, I

thought I hit a plate, and the more I hit it, it was hard.

You're in the moment, especially on a tactile dive where you can't see

anything, you're groping about.

He comes to service, and he says, you're certainly on something.

You need to go look at those sample bags.

This is what I found.

I thought I had a hard bottom.

and i could find not a thing chisel has hardened alloy steel on it yeah and it

broke it apart yeah to do that like you're into something very very hard

yeah what you have in that bag you wouldn't do it yeah no no totally no i

think we go back down and see see what we find because mike

has reached his dive time safety limit for the day backup diver nick perry will

now descend the DMT shaft.

He will also be equipped with a pinpointing metal detector to determine

whether or not the obstruction is metal, and if possible, remove it.

I'll stop.

I'll stop.

Divers on bottom.

Roger that, Nick. But you can stand on bottom, correct?

How's it going down there?

See if you can dig down with your knife or even your hand and see if you can

find it.

Just turn your pinpointer on and metal detect the whole hard

area.

Peel your glove off and get a really good smooth feel with your hand.

Which

doesn't make

sense because why wouldn't the oscillator chew through rock?

Some of the little stone chips that might be in the near vicinity, just

chuck them in your glove and bring them up. It might be something of interest.

Nick has felt the rock underneath the can.

I'm sitting in the chair.

Roger that.

And I think we've excluded the possibility that it's steel.

So what do we do? How do we proceed?

I'm dismayed.

Because the massive steel caisson was designed to drill through just about

anything, the fact that it couldn't cut through a granite rock is deeply

confusing.

There's definitely a granite rock there. So I felt it, took the glove off, you

could feel the round edge, rubbed it.

That's great.

Well, if it's a hard granite, some granite is hard to steal.

Both Nick and Mike, to their credit, have stated forthrightly what they have

observed and or felt, and they believe it to be a boulder.

And I think there was hope all around that this really was a find.

But it's not and thus we move on

The

following day Rick Lagina and members of the Oak Island team

meet with the crew from Irving equipment limited at the money pit site Because

the 60 inch wide drilling case on cannot break through the granite obstruction at

the bottom of the DMT shaft They must accept A bitter reality that further

drilling is out of the question, at least for now.

They have run out of time and are dangerously low on the money they

budgeted for this year.

Look, it's a little different feel right now than when we saw you guys come

across the causeway, you know, but I will say this. It's been a pleasure

working with Urban Group and with Rock.

It's been fantastic.

And, you know, we don't walk away with our heads hanging low. I mean, there's

something down there.

Really appreciate being part of it.

Hopefully we continue to be part of it and get to the bottom of that hole. I

don't like to make promises on Oak Island, but we have every expectation to

see you guys back here when we get to the bottom of this thing.

It's not goodbye.

It's we'll see you soon.

To that end, we're not done.

Scott, thank you.

We've decided to let Irving and Brock go.

The bitter part of it, of course, is that we didn't find what we had hoped we

would find.

Some substantial one thing in H8 and locating the vault in the

second hole of DMT.

But we vigorously investigated the supposed area of the money pit.

We've got two cans, large diameter cans that...

have their structural integrity and that we can possibly use for further

exploration. So we have moved the dial on Oak Island. Unfortunately, it's still

an island of what-ifs and possibilities.

After a summer that saw the discovery of everything from 17th century human bones

to antique jewelry and a cross that could date back to the days of the

Knights Templar, Rick, Marty, and their team may be closer than ever to solving

the mystery of Oak Island.

But now, having invested another hard year and millions of dollars, the time

has arrived for a critical decision.

Should they continue? And if so, how?

One day after making the difficult decision to end this year's search

operations at the Money Pit site,

That's quite a jigsaw puzzle. Yeah.

Brothers Rick and Marty Lagina and other members of the Oak Island team meet in

the war room for what is likely to be their final time this year.

Before we begin, I'd like to get Craig up on the phone.

Looks like we got Craig. Hey, Craig.

How's it going there?

Craig, we're looking at a display of the year's finds.

We certainly have a mosaic here, and we have yet to put it together.

There's a lot of puzzle pieces.

Mom would tell us, get your straight edges here, put your corner pieces

there, put your colored pieces here, put the blue pieces here.

And that's what we've got laid out before us.

And we have yet to figure it out.

What do you want to do? I don't know. I mean, I would open it up for an open

table discussion.

Yep. Yeah.

And then, you know, after everyone's had their input, there's one thing to ask,

and that is, where do we go from here?

Yeah. Whatever conclusion you come to is going to have to be predicated on how

much money we've got. Well, sure.

Agreed there.

There's a lot of stuff here that costs a lot of money to find.

We are not getting our money back. We still need more.

Give us your opinion.

It doesn't work for us on the island.

But wait a minute. There is a certain weariness right now at the end of all

this. There's a certain excitement, but there's a certain weariness. So I think

a good starting point.

would be to make sure we all understand what's on the table here. I mean,

there's a lot of stuff, so why don't you start, Gary?

Discuss what you consider the highlights of what you found.

This crucifix cross, to me, is defined of a season.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Holy.

Holy shmoly, all right.

It's a cross.

Oh, my gosh. I mean, that is an old, old cross.

That is really, really old, and that came from somewhere else.

What did your analysis come up with?

13th century or older, Dan, is what people are saying.

Yeah, because this cross is the type of thing that's carved into prison walls

and church walls in Europe.

Is this solely a Templar construct? It is closely associated with

the crusading orders.

There's a carving in France, a prison tower, where up to 70 Templar knights

were imprisoned after they were rounded up in 1307.

1307, that's the tail end of them. Look at the legs, the head, everything's

really similar.

I think the crosses.

A uniquely singular item worthy of far more research.

Absolutely. So, Charles, what do you think is most significant on this table?

I think another one of the, you know, significant finds, you know, is human

bones out of H8. To me, the money pit with the human bones, that's, you know,

it's huge.

To the limits of science, we know that two people's remains are in the money

pit.

Yeah. We have two samples, both human.

And it's definitely two different humans.

You've got Western European and East Asian. In carbon dating, 1600s. Human

bones from 162 feet below searcher depth.

That's a hell of a depth to be burying somebody.

Yeah. They take on significance if they're below six feet.

I agree.

What I find exciting is that piece of parchment that you found this year in

H8.

That corroborates what William Chappell found in his drilling in 1897.

You know, you verified what they found 120 years ago. You've been able to bring

a piece of a document up out of the ground.

Finding that myself, I am 100% positive that there's something very

valuable in the Money Pit area.

I have always said that what's here may be treasure.

There may be manuscripts or books, ancient knowledge, something, something

that is far more valuable than temporal wealth. And this substantiates that

belief.

And there's a couple of finds we're forgetting about. Those two coins here

have got 1600 dates on them.

One's 1673, was it? And the other's in the 1690s.

When was a money pit discovered?

1795. 1795.

Right. Well, that had to be deposited well before the discovery of the money

pit, 100 years before.

Yeah. There's certainly a suggestion of an earlier occupation.

Pre-money pit? Yep.

Wow.

Did you see the brooch? I did, yes. What did you think about that? It's so

interesting.

But it's obviously handmade.

It's kind of asymmetrical, too. You said, Gary, that that was all hand-cut.

Yeah. Not machined. I remember when it first picked up and you turned over it,

you saw all the facets.

I thought this was glass. It apparently is not glass.

It is a rotolite. Darn it. A semi-precious stone.

This is about what you picture when you open a treasure chest.

The lock plate came from not far off where the jewel, the brooch, was found.

a key lock cover yeah i mean i i know i'm playing junior archaeologist here

but i can't help but draw the conclusion dan you brought this collective

if you will together what do you think i don't know

as far as i'm concerned everything got on the table doesn't prove or

disprove whether there's treasure on oak island

I would say probably 75, 80% of that is off on the surface.

All that your surface finds are doing is giving you a known anyway.

At some time or another, someone has spent a lot of time on the surface of

Oak Island.

It's very graphic as far as looking at it is concerned, but I mean, in the same

token, it's time-consuming and expensive.

That's no BS. That's fact.

Dan, let me ask you a question. Should we keep going?

Hey, Dan, let me ask you a really tough question.

Do you want us to quit?

It's a hard question, Marty. It really is.

It's a deep question, and it's hard.

The Oak Island team has gathered in the war room for what could be their most

important decision to date.

whether to continue forward or put their entire operation on hold indefinitely.

Dan, you have any thoughts?

How deep is your pockets?

It boils down to whether it's worth it. That's the key question, though, Dan.

How do you evaluate that, whether it's worth it? How do you evaluate that? What

should affect it is the hard evidence that has come

out. It's substantiating up to a certain extent, but I don't think you should put

too much undue influence on this here.

Question, Marty, why are we grouping all the coins together with the jewel now?

If you opened a little box and you found that, you might say you found a bit of

treasure, wouldn't you? It kind of looks like a regular mini treasure chest,

doesn't it? Yeah.

Well, I will say this from my own standpoint. I entered this whole quest

thinking that maybe nothing of any consequence really happened on this

island prior to 1790.

But as this year draws to a close, I have to say I don't believe that

anymore.

There's too much here. Yeah, yeah. I now believe something did happen here prior

to 1790.

Well, there you go. It's quite obvious, Marty. That's getting somewhere.

You've come a long way. I have. I have.

We can't stop now. I mean, look what we've found so far this year.

Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. I know what you want to do.

Oh, yeah.

I know where I want to be next year.

I'm like a kid in a candy store. I really am.

Doug, I think you've got some of the most convincing evidence in the last 120

years.

All I can tell you is if you continue, I'm here to support you in any way I

can. Well, Charles.

Let's put it this way. I don't want you to quit. Okay. All right. Fair enough.

Hey, Laird. I'd love to hear what you have to say. Well, the archaeologists,

we need this stuff. We need the hard evidence.

Is your excitement level higher, though? Oh, yeah. No.

Absolutely.

So, Dan, what do you think?

First thought I have is that you're pretty close to the right location.

You wouldn't quit, though, would you?

Can't say I wouldn't. I just said I wouldn't want to.

All right, Dan, let's ask Craig. You've been listening to all this.

Well, the evidence this year, Marty, you know, we didn't find the treasure, but I

think we had a fantastic year.

Yes. We got a number of major things out in Smith's Cove. The U-shaped structure,

and could there be more things like the lead cross that could tell us who did

it?

Yeah, definitely.

Jack, I think it's your turn. Yep.

I think that we still have a lot of exploring left to do.

And this year proved it.

What say you, number one son?

Year one, I was kind of thinking, come on, what are we really going to find?

This year, I'm thinking, okay, there's a lot more to be found. We've moved you a

long way, too. Oh, yeah. You always thought when I told you the story, you

always thought, oh, there goes Uncle Rickon again, right? Yeah, I did.

I won't lie.

I did think that. I don't think it anymore.

The preponderance of evidence here, I wouldn't drill this up and then stop.

That's my opinion.

Depending upon how old you are.

I came here over 50 years ago, and what attracted me to Oak Island was the

mystery. That's what attracted me.

Okay. Do you feel there's still a mystery to solve here?

Well, the answer to that would have to be yes.

Amen. And with that, I will see what Fearless Leader says.

What do you want to do?

I think what we need to do, given the amount of significant material there,

I'm going to fall back on what Dan suggested to us last year, take a step

back, try to ascertain what all of this may mean.

And for me, this puzzle is who, what, when, where, why,

and how.

And this year in particular,

this little piece of parchment might be the what.

And this little item right here, this might be a clue to lead us to who.

And the rest will fall into place, but we have to follow.

We speak a lot about family here, and for Marty and I, we always run back to

Mom and Dad.

Yeah. So Mom would say, you know...

Sempre avanti, always forward. Get the puzzle together.

But for me, the only way to really put this thing together is for us to do it

together. One and all and once and forever and. Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So I say we celebrate.

I say we declare victory.

It's crown time. I say to the fellowship, to the fellowship of the

day. All right.

As another exciting and emotional year on Oak Island comes to an end. Well,

guys, it's been a good year, Dave. Take care. Thanks a lot. David.

Rick. Yep. Brothers Rick and Marty Lagina leave the island with no regrets.

You've turned into a regular man hugger.

Rick. Hey.

Although they have so far.

not found anything resembling a fabled golden treasure.

I'm going to miss you, Charles.

Miss you too, buddy. They have uncovered evidence that could be of even greater

value.

Evidence that could change not only the history of North America, but the world.

See you all, guys.

We've certainly made progress.

And I think that, you know, we certainly have a...

a substantial amount of puzzle pieces.

And now it's getting time where we start putting some of these pieces together.

We need connective tissue.

To some extent, it's like a love-hate relationship.

The silent can be brutal.

And it can be rewarding, and it's beautiful.

And it's mystical.

But it's all those things.

But it's time to take a break.

The search goes home for a while. For now. Yeah.