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Craig, you're next.

On August 19, 2016, Drake Tester, the 16-year

-old son of treasure hunter Craig Tester, joined other members of the Oak

Island team in writing an inscription on a 50-inch wide drilling caisson that

everyone hoped would help them locate the original money pit.

In so doing, he made a permanent reminder of one of the island's most

enduring and powerful truths.

That the story of Oak Island is, as it has been for more than two centuries, a

story about family.

From the Laginas.

But here's the thing, I'm still in.

Let's go. One in all and one through forever.

To the Blankenships.

Mom would be happy getting it over with. She wanted it done.

I don't have a reputation for giving up.

Oak Island has been a place where the compelling desire to solve a mystery has

lured generations of treasure hunters.

From former slaves.

Just being a cabbage farmer could never have given him enough money.

To purchase the property that he bought?

To future U.S. presidents.

FDR was adventurous.

Who wouldn't want to search for a hidden treasure?

Families who came looking for a dream and who rarely leave willingly if they

ever leave at all.

It grabs hold like an addiction that doesn't let go.

Whoa!

We are part of the island, and the island is part of us.

According to legend, it was on a hot summer night in June 1795 that three

teenage boys, Daniel McGinnis, John Smith, and Anthony Vaughn, traveled to

Oak Island in a rowboat.

They discovered an old oak tree with a block and tackle hanging off one of the

limbs.

And under the block and tackle was a depression on the ground.

They started to dig and then they quickly realized that they dug down to a

man-made shaft.

At a depth of 10 feet, they found a layer of tightly packed oak logs

embedded in clay.

They found another layer of logs at a depth of 20 feet.

then thirty when it became obvious to them that they were digging into

something much more complex than a simple pirate's treasure-hall over the

next few years the young men formed what was called the onslow company

they continued digging until at a depth of ninety feet they found a

large flat gray-green stone on which are carved a number of strange almost

hieroglyphic shapes

After the 90-foot stone was recovered, eventually the pit flooded,

and digging stopped for the time being.

Although it is widely believed that McGinnis, Vaughn, and Smith never found

so much as a glint of treasure, there are those who believe that a portion of

it was, in fact, recovered very early on, and that this only fueled the trio's

determination to keep digging.

I believe that my ancestors did find some of the treasure. There was a family

story passed down that Anthony Vaughn and some of the other landowners on the

island, they discovered a decoy treasure.

They kept it secret because they didn't want the other hunters to find it. But

family lore says that Daniel sold his property.

and moved away and developed a huge shipbuilding empire in New Brunswick.

Anthony Vaughn Sr.'s two brothers suddenly were running the biggest lumber

mill on that part of Nova Scotia at the time and became very wealthy men. And so

the question is, where did they get the money to launch this enterprise?

A lot of people said it came from the money pit.

The idea that a portion of the treasure was found was further reinforced in

2015, when three of Daniel McGinnis' descendants returned to Oak Island to

share an incredible family secret with the Lagina brothers and their partners.

This is one of the stories we were told as children.

Grandpa Daniel, five generations ago, he and his two friends found three

treasure chests.

He never heard that. No. I never heard that either.

Daniel took one, Smith took one, and Vaughn took one.

And what is in this box is one of the things that came from that chest.

Really? The one that McGinnis took.

Let's have a look.

Yeah, I got goosebumps.

Wow.

May I?

You may.

Oh, my goodness.

It passed down to the McGinnis men.

And so my father had it. And when my brother James was 15, my father passed

it on to him. And my brother, the night before he died, he said, never let this

out of your sight.

Because early accounts of the events on Oak Island are sketchy,

it is often difficult for the historian to separate fact from fiction.

One area of confusion even extends to the identities and ages of the original

discoverers of the money pit.

There are those who believe that there was a fourth person involved in the dig,

a former American slave by the name of Samuel Ball.

Samuel Ball is our great-great-grandfather, our mother, Mae

List Boyd, would recount stories of a relative living on Oak Island.

And she would say to me, this is our people's land.

And that had just stayed with me for the rest of my life.

The extraordinary story of Samuel Ball begins in 1776, when at just 11

years old, he escaped the South Carolina plantation where he had been a slave and

made his way north.

During the American War of Independence, the British governor of Virginia, The

Earl of Dunmore issued a proclamation granting freedom to any male slave who

would fight on the British side. And thousands did. And one of these

individuals was Samuel Ball.

So Samuel Ball, he ended up in New Jersey until the war ended, at which

time he made his way to Canada.

Lieutenant Governor of Nova Scotia, Sir George Provost, decided because of his

assertiveness to give him some lands.

They put him on Oak Island, and that's where his life actually started here in

Nova Scotia.

Samuel Ball did purchase land on Oak Island with eight pounds of sterling

silver. So tilling the land, maybe he did find some coins or some silver and

started purchasing land there.

Samuel Ball bought his first lot on Oak Island in 1787, and he quickly bought

the lot next to it.

So before the discovery of the money pit, Samuel Ball actually owned two lots

on Oak Island.

In 1870, Nova Scotia historian Mather Biles de Brise published A History

of the County of Lunenburg, one of the first detailed accounts of the search

for treasure on Oak Island.

According to de Brise, it was Samuel Ball and not John Smith.

who was one of the first discoverers of the money pit.

But if so, why was the account later changed?

Was it because Samuel Ball, who would have been 30 years old at the time,

lived on the island and didn't want anyone to know that he was also involved

in the search for the Oak Island treasure?

Eventually, he had nine lots on the island.

plus 100 acres on the mainland.

So how did Samuel Ball accumulate this wealth?

According to published accounts, Samuel Ball worked as a cabbage farmer and

lived on Oak Island with his wife Mary and their three children.

By the time of his death in 1846, at the age of 81, he was one of the

wealthiest men in Nova Scotia.

Just being a cabbage farmer could never have given him enough money to purchase

the property that he bought.

I think you found something on Oak Island.

I'm absolutely convinced of that.

All the family knows of the story of Sam, it just gives us so much

pride and feeling of understanding a little bit more of the legacy that he's

left for our family.

In 1861, the Oak Island Association was formed and within months experienced

the island's first fatal tragedy when the boiler from a steam-powered water

pump exploded and scalded an unknown worker to death.

Rumors of a curse began to circulate, which inspired a Halifax newspaper to

run a story about the treasure hunt in 1864.

In the colonists, there was published a three-part story that gave the full

history of the hunt up until that time on Oak Island.

Up until that time, it was a very secretive operation.

For the next few decades, work on the island continued, but without much

success.

It wasn't until 1893...

with the formation of the Oak Island Treasure Company by Frederick Blair,

that Oak Island would enjoy its most active and productive period since the

discovery of the money pit nearly 100 years earlier.

They invested a lot of money at a time when there wasn't a lot of money around.

And one of those investors was William Chappell.

Chappell was an investor, but he was also a skilled drill operator.

The Chappell family actually goes back to France.

My great-grandfather, William Chappell, settled in Nova Scotia and became the

lumber baron of Canada.

A skilled drill operator, William Chappell would leave a long and lasting

legacy on Oak Island.

He spent decades trying to solve the mystery, often aided in that task by his

son, Mel, also known... as MR.

It was William Chappell who in 1897 discovered traces of gold along with a

small fragment of parchment after drilling into what he believed to be a

mysterious seven foot deep wooden box lying at a depth of 153 feet.

They put that bit down and they brought it up.

And there was this one very curious object that no one could identify. It

was this little ball of something.

But when they had opened this paper up, they saw what appears to be the letters

V and I.

And, you know, it was of great wonderment to them what paper would be

doing down under Oak Island at that depth.

M.R. Chapel.

is actually there when his father drills through this thing.

Here's a perfect example of how somebody can become so obsessed with Oak Island.

That made such an impression on him and what was brought up.

A little piece of parchment seems to have been very, very significant to my

grandfather.

Dubbed the Chapel Vault, the box was thought to be the very object that was

originally buried at the bottom of the money pit.

more than a century before.

But what was inside?

Rumors of a curse were also refueled when during an excavation of the money

pit, a hoisting rope slipped off a pulley,

causing one of Frederick Blair's workers, Maynard Kaiser, to fall 100

feet down the shaft to his death.

For months, Blair and Chappell tried every possible method to reach the

mysterious wooden box, but without success.

William Chappell's son, M.R., would devote the rest of his life to finding

someone who could help him retrieve it.

One of those men was Captain Henry L. Bowden, a mining engineer who in 1909

convinced Frederick Blair and the Chappells that he could reach the chapel

vault.

Bowdoin's own research had convinced him that what lie at the bottom of the money

pit wasn't pirate treasure, but the lost crown jewels of Queen Marie Antoinette

of France.

And he was joined in this belief by a 27-year-old man who worked with him on

the island that summer, Franklin D. Roosevelt.

I'm a grandson of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Eleanor Roosevelt.

FDR was adventurous, to say the least, and certainly he was influenced by

his grandfather, Warren Delano. He was very much an adventuresome man himself.

He would have mentioned the treasure on Oak Island to FDR.

and as a young man who wouldn't want to search for a hidden treasure.

FDR's grandfather, Warren Delano Jr., was one of the wealthiest men in the

world, having made his fortune by smuggling opium from China to the United

States.

Warren Delano became an investor in the Truro Company, and his belief in the

island and its treasure fueled the imagination of his grandson.

FDR, he had no money of his own. His mother had money from her side of the

family. So the way for him to escape his mother's purse strings, if you

will, would be to find his own treasure.

In 1911, Henry L. Bowden ceased operations on Oak Island.

What for Franklin Roosevelt?

Oak Island represented a dream that he never really abandoned, even after he

became the president of the United States.

FDR continued his interest well into the 30s and 40s when he was president.

I hold here in my hands a letter on White House stationery dated August

31st, 1938.

It says, Dear Mr. Hamilton, Your note came while I was on my cruise in the

Pacific. I wish much I could have gone...

Unfortunately, Roosevelt's passion for what he called that romantic spot ended

with his death from a cerebral hemorrhage in 1945.

But for M.R. Chappell, who, like Roosevelt, was a fellow Freemason, the

search for treasure on Oak Island was about to enter a whole new phase.

What makes sense to me is the theory that links it to the Knights Templar,

because the Masons derived from the Knights Templar.

My grandfather became a Grand Master of the Masons, so I could see that as being

a real interest of his.

By 1957,

M.R. Chappell was now too old to undertake the hard work himself.

To that end, he began negotiations with a former daredevil turned treasure

hunter, a man determined to solve the Oak Island mystery at all costs,

a man named Robert Restall.

In April of 1939,

Popular Science magazine featured a story that suggested the treasure of

Captain Kidd might be buried on Oak Island.

The article fired the imagination of a man who believed that taking chances was

what made life worth living, Robert Restall.

Robert was a daredevil. He was already working with carnivals, doing various

stunts, often on motorcycles.

At the time, Restall and his wife, Mildred, had become famous throughout

Europe and North America as stunt motorcycle performers.

It was a steel globe, and Mom would ride horizontally in the globe, and Dad would

join her, and then he would loop. And so they were going at cross purposes, and

they were the first to do a double act in a globe of death.

But by the early 1950s, the couple had moved to Ontario, Canada, where Robert

found work in a steel plant.

and Mildred was busy raising the couple's three children, Lee, Bobby Jr.,

and Rick.

He was a very, very intelligent man. He could fabricate things, build things. If

something broke down, he could fix it. He was a mechanical genius, basically.

But Robert Restall yearned for his prior life of adventure.

He wanted a future.

He wanted Oak Island.

Around 1955, Robert came home one day and announced that instead of going back

to work in the steel plant, he was going to go treasure hunting on Oak Island.

He got every single available document, book, you name it, maps, charts, and

studied Oak Island. It was his passion.

I saw them at the door, and they had all their stuff packed, and they said, we're

going to Oak Island, and I was completely flabbergasted.

On October 15, 1959,

Robert Restall arrived on Oak Island with $8,000 worth of equipment and his

wife and two sons in tow.

Robert had convinced M.R. Chappell that he alone could solve the mystery and

unearth the treasure, and that he could do it within a year.

He knew what the others had done and where they had fallen short.

Sometimes fortunes were wasted because they didn't listen to the working men

who'd been on the last project.

But Dad was going to take everything just the one step further, and he really

believed he could do it in about three months.

For the first few months, life for the Restalls was primitive.

There was no running water, no electricity.

Because everything from the mainland had to be gotten by boat, a simple trip to

the grocery store could take the better part of an entire day.

Living conditions were extremely primitive, but also wild and kind of

novel. I mean, I was living in a cabin on the beach with my brother. My parents

were living in a cabin by the money pit on the top of the hill.

But if life was tough for the Restalls...

it was perhaps toughest for Bobby Jr.

He was 18 years old when he arrived on the island, an age when most of his

peers were going to school dances and dreaming of a future.

Instead, Bobby stuck by his father's side, helping with the hard work and

keeping track of nearly every day's progress, or lack of it, in a

meticulously kept series of journals.

Wednesday, September 28, 1960.

Dad cleared off beach and found drilled rock at low tide line, about four feet

from dock.

Tuesday, June 6, 1961.

Worked in hole, found it to be about 18 inches across and possibly lined with

stones about five feet down.

When I first saw Bobby's journals, I was astonished that he had been so

diligent, right to the bitter end. He kept that journal.

I think that this is a huge legacy for my family to leave.

I think that it's amazing work.

But as weeks stretched to months, and months into years, life for the Restons

became unbearable.

It was hard for the men because very physical and very demanding work, and

there was...

No rest, really, until you fell asleep.

My mother worked quite hard, and I was tired of living in rubber boots.

What Robert Restall promised his family would be an adventure turned into years

of struggle and back-breakingly hard work.

The length of the adventure was the problem in the end for both her and

myself. It just never seemed to end.

By 1965...

Robert Rustall had invested five years of his life and the lives of his family

on a dream that had turned into an obsession.

Because he never owned land on the property, he was constantly under

pressure to produce results or to leave empty-handed.

As far as he was concerned, the treasure needed to be found, and time was running

out. It's very easy to become obsessed here. Robert absolutely believed.

that he was close to solving this.

I feel that the treasure is here and that we can get it and we're going to

stay here until we do.

In the summer of 1965, Robert Restall discovered what he believed was one of

the original flood tunnels running under Smith's Cove.

If the water in the flood tunnel could be diverted to another shaft, access to

the money pit would finally be possible.

Digging a shaft 27 feet deep, Restall was convinced that he was just days away

from finally solving the Oak Island mystery.

But unfortunately, Robert Restall's dream of finding a treasure was about to

become a nightmare.

On the 17th of August, 1965, Robert had said to his wife, Mildred, I'm going to

check the pit on the shore, and then we're going to go into Chester.

Robert walked down to Smith's Cove to take another look at their current work.

And while he was looking in the shaft, he tumbled in.

Bobby quickly went to his aide.

He was like 24 years old at the time, and he immediately clambers down through

the ladder, and he's holding his father's head over the water till he

collapses.

And then it's just a domino effect.

Carl Grazer, he goes down. Cyril Hiltz, who was 16 years old. It's just one

right after the other. The only thought is, save the guy that went before me.

At the time, I was up in the cabin.

And I know it was after lunch and I was expecting my husband to come up any

time.

And I waited a few minutes and then went down and by then it was all over.

And that's when I learned that my husband and son and two other men were

dead.

They had succumbed to some kind of noxious gas that...

had caused this tragedy four people lost

their lives that day robert restall senior bobby restall cyril hiltz

and carl grazer at the

end of bobby restall's meticulous journals he wrote the date august 17

1965.

All that followed were a number of blank pages.

It would be a symbol of a life cut tragically short and the promise of a

treasure that he and his father would never find.

You know what? I mean, we can't change this. We can't do anything about it. But

I hope perhaps on the end of this book, you and I can fill in here.

Excuse me.

That we finish.

Yeah. Finish the search?

Let's make a promise.

Eight months prior to the tragic events of August 17th, the Reader's Digest

published a six-page story about the search for treasure on Oak Island.

This modest story fueled the imagination of a man who continues to have a

profound effect on the island and its history to this day.

Dan Blankenship.

I first read about Oak Island in Reader's Digest in January of 65

when I read the article.

And I handed it back to my wife and I said, there's treasure on Oak Island and

I'm going to be instrumental in discovering it.

When dad said, well, I'm going to take a trip up to Nova Scotia. So I said, fine,

it's a road trip.

I'm 16, 17 years old.

It's cool.

Over the next two years, Dan would dissolve his successful Florida-based

contracting company so that he and his wife, Jane, could pack up everything

they owned and move to Nova Scotia.

Although Dan had had a brief meeting with Robert Restall just one week prior

to the fatal accident, It was Dan's intention to join forces with the next

person who was now in charge of the treasure hunt, Robert Dunfield.

A geologist from California, Robert Dunfield had been one of Robert

Restall's biggest investors.

Dad was continually exploring.

Dad would take Mom and I out on exploring excursions anywhere where Dad

thought that there might be something that he could find.

Robert Dunfield's decision to take charge was a way to protect his

investment.

It was also, he felt, a way to honor the memories of Robert Restall and those who

perished with him.

The lives changed through death.

That stayed with Dad, but he never would have stopped because he felt that with

the continuing of the dig, he was honoring their memory.

After moving to Nova Scotia with his wife, Aline, Robert Dunfield was a man

on a mission.

There were only six months remaining on the Restall treasure license, and he

knew that if he didn't find the treasure within that time, he might be squeezed

out by other would-be investors.

Going for broke, Dunfield poured nearly every nickel he had left to bring heavy

digging equipment to the island.

After first creating a 600-foot causeway, linking the island to the

mainland for the first time in its history, he then tackled the money pit

head on.

For the next several weeks, he and a team of workers that included James

Troutman, Jimmy Kaiser and Dan Blankenship tried to reach the bottom of

the pit by digging an enormous hole 100 feet wide by an estimated 140

feet deep His methodology was big equipment move a lot of earth

and that's how you get to the treasure But unfortunately by doing so he

obliterated a lot of landmarks in the money pit area now Had he found the

treasure, he'd have been a hero.

But that's not the case.

Robert Dunfield left Oak Island exhausted, frustrated, and nearly broke.

But his departure would soon pave the way for yet another generation of

treasure hunters.

Men whose tenure on the island would last for more than half a century.

Within three months of the departure of Robert Dunfield in August 1966,

a new trio of treasure hunters took over the operations on Oak Island.

Fred Nolan, David Tobias, and Dan Blankenship.

I thought at the time they were going about it wrong, but they had insisted on

just staying in the Money Pit area, you know.

But I could see evidence of the fact that people had done work all over the

island.

Although David Tobias and Dan Blankenship would later form the Triton

Alliance and ultimately gain control over most of the island, Fred Nolan soon

emerged as not simply a neighboring landowner, but a fierce competitor.

Originally invited to Oak Island by M.R. Chappell as a land surveyor in 1961,

nolan found that seven of the four-acre lots were not owned by chapel and

purchased them himself nolan's claim on twenty-eight precious acres including

part of the triangle-shaped swamp sparked a bitter feud that would last

for years

Well, Nolan historically has gone on Mr.

Chappell's property, and I didn't object too strenuously at the time, thinking I

would at least get copies of what he was doing on Chappell's property.

But I found out very quickly you don't get anything like that from Nolan. So, I

mean, I found that Mr.

Nolan is very deliberately evasive.

over the many years.

Dan Blank, he was a nice guy, but this place seems to get hold of people.

People become very possessive.

It made it difficult.

For the next five decades, Fred Nolan spent thousands of hours scouring the

surface of Oak Island for clues that he believed would point to the treasure's

ultimate hiding place.

In the swamp, he discovered several objects that convinced him.

that a large wooden ship, possibly a pirate ship, had been buried underneath

layers of muck.

He also believed that the swamp was man-made, formed by building two

enormous cofferdams at both the north and south shores of the island, draining

them, and then filling them up with landfill after the digging at the money

pit was completed.

But perhaps Fred Nolan's biggest breakthrough came in 1981.

with the discovery of what he dubbed Nolan's Cross, a curious collection of

six enormous boulders whose dimensions are thought to represent everything from

a Christian cross to the tree of life as referenced in ancient Hebrew scriptures.

The boulders forming this cross are very large.

And I saw it was a cross.

There was no question about that. But what does it mean?

I guess it takes you to where one of the treasures is located.

But for all the discoveries claimed on Oak Island by Fred Nolan, they were

overshadowed by the discovery made by Dan Blankenship in the early 1970s,

after digging what he believed was a backdoor entrance into the fabled money

pit, 10X.

10X is a shaft that was engineered long ago by Mr. Blankenship. That was the

breakup of the Triton Alliance Company.

Mr. Tobias wanted to focus on the money pit, and Dan constructed 10X.

Dan Blankenship dug 10X without the help of big rigs and drilling caissons.

After first excavating a 27-inch wide borehole down to a final depth of 235

feet, Dan...

wearing only a simple wetsuit with a surface supply of oxygen made the first

perilous journey downward into what appeared to be a man-made chamber there

were pictures taken somewhat subjective but indicating that there was man-made

objects in that cavern that's a game changer if there's man-made objects at

235 feet they were only there because men put them there

Dan was astonished at what he believed he saw.

Evidence of ancient tools.

Wooden posts.

A large square object resembling a treasure chest.

Even what appeared to be the remains of a dead body.

Dan and his team believed they were only a few feet away from entering the money

pit and solving the Oak Island mystery.

Only one thing stood in their way.

Money. And to reach their goal.

They were going to need a lot of it.

When the January issue of Reader's Digest was published in 1965, among the

many readers who were captivated by the article on Oak Island was an 11-year-old

boy from Michigan's Upper Peninsula, Rick Lagina.

Something grabbed a hold of me, and I took it home, and I read it to my

brother.

I'm 11, he's 8.

I mean, it's mystery, treasure.

You know, the story of the boys, really, I think that was the key thing. These

boys find this mystery, which evolves into this Oak Island story, 200

years of story.

In 2005, after decades of unsuccessful search efforts,

Dan Blankenship's business partner, David Tobias, wanted out.

As a result, 50% of Oak Island tours The company set up by Tobias and Blankenship

was for sale.

And there was one man in Michigan who couldn't be more excited.

Rick Lagina.

In 2006, Rick, his brother Marty, and their Michigan-based partners made a

deal that would make them 50% owners in Oak Island Tours.

But believe it or not, it was not the Laginas' first attempt to join the

treasure hunt.

They had tried, without success.

some 10 years earlier.

We sat on the other end of the causeway. Past that bloody causeway. I mean, there

was Oak Island, you know, and I said, okay, well, you go.

No, you go.

And so we're sitting there like, you know, like kids again.

I said, just drive.

And so we went across.

And then we ran into Dan Blankenship. He was cutting trees in the woods, felling

trees for David's house.

So I get out and I start helping him push down trees.

He didn't say a word, didn't stop the chainsaw, just kept after it. Anyway, so

it didn't work out. And Rick was horribly disappointed, I remember.

But now, the Laginas and their partners were finally in business with Dan

Blankenship, and the search for treasure on Oak Island was back on.

With his brother Marty at his side, Rick Lagina, could finally apply his lifetime

of research to solving this centuries-old mystery.

Working with their close friend and business partner, Craig Tester, along

with friends and family members, the Laginas set out to repair everything

from washed-out roadways to damaged relationships.

So it's time to quit the fighting and cooperate, right? It hasn't accomplished

much.

Yeah, I don't want to be an obstacle anymore.

Welcome to the team.

The Laginas and their partners also built a permanent visitor center, which

houses an invaluable collection of artifacts and memorabilia related to the

search. But amid all of the mysterious artifacts and all the countless theories

about what may be buried on Oak Island, one fact is certain. Oak Island is

about family.

We're going to put a time capsule in the ground at the Bicentennial Memorial.

Kind of wrote a little letter.

it's it's to the people that will open this and it's it's to all of us it says

dear oak island searchers we have met so many gracious and wonderful people it is

impossible to acknowledge and thank everyone though i would try especially

wish to say to my brother and friend that i

and i do not use the term lightly i treasure this time we have spent

together Oh, come on.

You end up feeling like you're part of this series of families.

An individual first becomes quite enamored of the island, and then because

they're part of families, the family gets drawn in.

Oak Island becomes an obsession for families who are a part of the island

history.

Hi, Rick.

Welcome back. Welcome back.

Oak Island managed to wheedle its way into my heart.

Oak Island has a very strong pull.

Yeah, I remember the path we used to come from the monetary area down to

Smiths Cove.

It's surprising how small it looks now.

Yeah, everything looks smaller.

My family and I have a great sense of pride being part of the Ball family.

This is where it began.

It's just not the treasure, but it's the family's lives that have been involved

in this hunt.

It's just incredible, eh?

It's almost like the island calls to you.

And even after you leave it, you have this longing desire to go back.

There he is.

Hey, Daniel.

Anyone that has spent as much time on the island as myself, they would like to

be the one that made the breakthrough.

But you have to be willing to accept a 17, 18-year-old kid could come in and

make a breakthrough.

That's life.

Good.

Look what it says on that pipe.

Dan's breakthrough.

It's transcendent, if you will, because there's this commonality of search.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Of attaining a common goal. That's a cross.

That's a cross.

That it's easy to feel like they're a part of us and we're a part of them.