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Nothing is off limits.

You know, you got to reciprocate that passion.

We get into arguments frequently,

and that does affect it.

Okay? It does.

- Nelcy, shut up! - Do not tell me to shut up.

Then just... just leave.

Nelcy, sit down.

The emotions reach a breaking point.

If you're in an international relationship,

you don't cheat.

I have zero respect for you for that.

Are you a grown adult? Do you need people to, like, coddle you?

You have not been with anybody else since that time?

What about your birthday?

And I'd like for you to be honest.

And secrets are revealed.

That's up.

You didn't know that Usman had called Zara?

Nope. I did not.

And it all starts now.

Hey.

I'm excited about today.

I am a little nervous, but, you know,

exciting at the same time, you know.

What are people going to think of my story?

Are they going to have any criticism of me.

I'm feeling a little nervous.

I don't know what's going to happen.

Um, I don't know what questions I'm going to be asked.

I might have to defend myself today.

At the end of the day, I want to be prepared for everything.

How you doing, Gino?

Thank you.

- I still got the hat on. - Yeah.

You gotta take that thing off there, bud.

Yeah, right.

See? Bald.

Jeez.

So where is everyone else at?

I don't know.

I'm a little bit, uh, nervous because I'm not sure,

you know, what questions are going to come at me, right?

I know some of my friends had their concerns about Ximena.

I just ignore all those comments.

I want to know what Ximena is in this for.

Is she in it for a green car to come to America?

That's the question that I would have.

I'm excited to be here in New York

because my son lives here,

but I'm nervous to be here at the same time.

- Hi. - Hey, Kim.

- Hey. - How are you doing?

There's... there's things about the other couples

that I've seen that they concern me.

I'm really not looking forward to seeing Ximena or Ella.

Like, how are you all doing? Good?

- Good. - Yeah, I'm doing great.

Is there anybody you're, like, excited to meet or excited

to, like, see their story?

It's a tough question because they're all interesting to me.

Yeah, Mike and Ximena, I'm interested in that one.

And then the whole Ella and Johnny thing, I don't condone that.

I think Ella was... trash for sleeping on this...

this nice man and the hurt on his face, when I saw it,

it was just... It hurt my heart, you know?

I am freaking out inside.

I am not very confident and I'm just a little nervous.

I'm nervous as to whether Mahogany is going to show up or not.

I don't know if she will.

I can take the bullets. I just don't know if she can.

I don't know if she's ready to.

- Hey, guys. - Hi.

- What's up? - How's it going?

- Good to see you. - Yeah.

Ben, you're so cute.

- Oh, my God. - So are you.

And I love my man, but you're gorgeous.

A lot of the guys are not, uh,

standing up to their women,

and they're allowing them to cross their personal boundaries

of human dignity.

I just want to know if they're, like, willing to stand for themselves.

It's... it's going to be interesting.

I'm nervous, but I'm really, really,

really excited to meet everybody.

I am so sad that I'm coming here knowing

that I'm the only one who has not seen my man.

- Ella. - Hey...

How are you? Good to see you in the flesh.

My moment of weakness when I decided

to get animalistic,

I definitely know I'm going to get a lot of flak for tha

Johnny is... is definitely an amazing man.

And I did him wrong.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to get some harsh judgment

on one of my things that happened in my story.

So I'm interested to see what happens with that.

You know, when you cheat, this is what you deal with.

But for me, there's a lot of judgment for him going over there

and following my heart, which is crazy to me

because that's what I should have done, you know.

You seemed to come on pretty strong from what I saw.

- I went for what I wanted. - Well, like...

Okay, guys are... I'm going to stereotype now,

so I'm going to get in trouble.

- Okay. - We as men are the predators.

We are lions looking for gazelles.

And you're kind of hoping that it's a bit of a race.

You know, you don't want it to just, like, lay down.

It's like, "Well, that wasn't fun."

So, like, if a gazelle ever attacked me,

I wouldn't know what to do.

I mean, to me, it's just a turn-off.

But if Usman likes that sort of thing,

all the power to him, but he seemed like he didn't.

Sorry, guys.

I lost my respect for him when he called me a predator.

I did not like that.

Everybody is only seeing a part of me, you know what I'm saying?

And I don't feel like I was a predator.

I feel like I'm 51 years old, I went for what I wanted.

That's how I feel.

And if it came across that I'm a predator, get the out of here.

You shouldn't have even said that to me.

It was an insult to me as a woman.

There's my girl.

- Memphis, oh, my God. - Okay.

Okay, we got a little competition, girl.

I love Memphis.

Memphis and I actually became really good friends, and we talk a lot.

So Ben called me a predator.

He called you a predator?

He called me a predator. He said I was... What was it?

The gazelle and the lion.

Yeah, I think that's... Yeah, I think it's rude.

Here you are dating all these really young women,

but, you know, why can't a woman do that?

That's what I don't like about the double standard.

And that's how I feel, too.

Let's go.

- I'm a little nervous. - That'll be your chair.

Okay.

I don't think people are going to be happy with me

for some silly things that I did.

Unfortunately, I'm a people pleaser

and I'm quite terrified to upset everybody.

There's a couple of things I wasn't proud of.

I just hope the other couples think I'm a good,

genuine person.

I'm probably going to get called out for not confronting her enough

about some of the inconsistencies

and just being love blind.

I'm going to tell my opinion. I'm a very straightforward woman.

All right, here we go.

Okay. Here we go, guys.

Three, two.

Hello and welcome to Before the 90 Days: The Couples Tell All.

I'm Shaun Robinson.

We have six couples with us today,

either in studio

or joining remotely from all over the world.

Everyone here has something in common,

they've been looking for love,

but finding love, you know, isn't easy

and keeping it can be even harder.

Some relationships stand the test of time,

while others flicker out.

So let's get right into it.

Now, there is one couple who will not be joining us tonight,

Caleb and Alina.

However, to our surprise, one of our couples

will be with us together and in person.

Does everybody want to know who it is?

- Yeah. - Ready?

Okay.

Let's bring out Hamza.

- What? - Yeah.

Hey.

- Hey, how you doing? - Hi.

Welcome.

We're all very surprised and excited to see you and Memphis.

It's a pleasure to meet you for the very first time.

We have an interpreter for Hamza.

His name is Ed, and Ed will be speaking

with us throughout the show.

Now I want to move on to Ella and Johnny.

Ella, good to see you in person.

Good to see you, too.

And, Johnny, thank you for joining us

from all the way around the world in China.

How are you today?

Yes, very nice.

And I can't wait to get into your story.

And we have here, Gino and Jasmine.

Welcome. Good to meet you guys.

Jasmine, thank you for joining us remotely

from Panama.

Whoo!

Whoo!

Well, now, one of the things you guys talked about

was your hat, Gino.

- Oh, my hat? - What?

Your hat.

Why don't you just take it off, Gino?

- Take it off. - Take it off.

- Babe, do it. - He's not gonna do it.

He's not gonna do it.

Mike and Ximena, it is good to see you.

Um, Ximena, thank you for joining us

from all the way from Colombia.

Mike, the last time that we saw you and Ximena,

things were not going well at all.

So, Mike, what is the status of your relationship today?

Um, we were able to work it out,

and today we're back together.

- Wow. - Yeah.

- Thank you. - Way to go, Mike.

Okay.

I did not expect you to say that, I'm telling you.

You guys had so many ups and downs,

that's going to be quite a story.

So I, uh, can't wait to talk to you about that.

Okay. Now, let's move over to Kimberly.

- Nice to meet you. Kim. - Nice to meet you, too.

- How are you? - I'm good, thank you.

- How are you? - Great.

And, Usman, it's good to see you again.

Kimberly.

- Benjamin. - Nice to meet you, Sean.

And we have Mahogany joining us

all the way from Peru.

You are a couple that ended on a really sad note

after breaking up.

It was just kind of a disaster, you know?

When was the last time you guys spoke?

Uh, we spoke last night.

I can't wait to hear what that conversation was like, Benjamin.

Yeah, I'm interested to hear that.

- Because... Goodness. - Yeah.

But right now, let's kick things off

with Gino and Jasmine.

Congratulations on your proposal.

Yes. Flashing that bling, girl.

That means you got to get her here quick, Gino.

- Yeah. - So what are the formal plans?

Well, I have a K-1 visa in process.

You do? Okay.

I submitted to immigration,

and we're about at the fifth month or so waiting,

or sixth, actually.

Wonderful.

Now, one issue that kept getting in the way of Gino

and Jasmine's love was Jasmine's jealousy.

Let's take a look at how Gino dealt with these moments.

Sometimes Jasmine can get really jealous,

and that concerns me a little bit.

She says, evidence, reports.

So, usually when I go out, I'll send her a screenshot

or check in with her.

Hi.

Yeah, I just got a carry out for fish and chips.

How you doing?

And what's your first name?

- My name's Brittany. - Brittany. Okay.

Yeah, it was nice meeting you.

- Thank you. - Thank you.

- Bye. - Bye.

Yes.

Why not say hi? It's not...

It was my first time in the restaurant.

I never have been there.

Which is true.

You don't have to say nasty stuff.

Whoa!

Jasmine.

I see it. So I understand that.

That was a little much, though, with the little police emoji.

It was a little much.

I want to be nice and say hi, what's your name?

But I wasn't hitting on her.

Jasmine, do you worry that Gino is cheating on you?

All the time?

Why? I never cheated on you.

I have not. It's a fact.

Um, Gino, have you messaged

anybody in this cast?

What do you mean?

Have you, like, sent DMs or anything

to anybody that you have met through this cast?

- Through this cast? - Yes.

I mean, I've talked to the cast themselves.

Yeah.

- But no. - But that's it.

Nobody, nobody that has a connection with anybody in this cast?

No.

Okay.

So what about Benjamin's friend Jessica?

What about her?

Have you messaged her?

- Uh... no. - Okay.

But there's not been any communication between you

and her at all.

- Okay. - What happened?

Coming up...

Oh, my God.

And later...

You didn't know?

Nope, I did not.

That's up.

I need a minute.

I don't know.

Tell the truth now, Gino.

I'm telling you.

I think she messaged me hi and I responded back,

"Hello, how are you?" or something.

Okay.

So, first, Gino, there was no communication at all.

Now there is communication.

We actually have the DMs.

No.

Jessica gave this to you, right?

Okay. Um...

She responded...

Gino, that shows me that you reached out to her first.

No, she originally reached out and said hello to me first.

Okay.

And would you be able to pull that conversation up on your DMs?

I don't think I have that. No.

Why would you delete it?

Well, I was not hitting on her. Okay?

I... I never cheated on Jasmine ever.

No, but she reached...

She reached out to me first, I remember.

And I was just being friendly,

having a friendly conversation with her.

So there's nothing there.

- Because I love Jasmine. I... - Okay.

Okay.

Okay, we're going to dig into that a little later,

but for now, we're going to move on.

When Gino traveled to Panama, he brought along

some blue pills

in case he needed help performing with Jasmine.

He didn't end up needing them for this never-before-seen moment

that brought up a whole lot of questions about their sex life.

Let's take a look.

Huh?

You couldn't wait an hour?

Oh... Look at Mike.

I'm sorry, that's...

Okay.

So, yeah, I mean, I remember that night,

I was super tired.

Not tired enough to play with pee-pee.

I didn't have enough energy to, uh...

Okay.

- Do the wild thing. - All right.

Jasmine, why do you consider that cheating?

Gino, is that true?

No, it's not true. It's not true.

Where do you get the idea that I'm masturbating?

Jasmine, did you see him do it?

No.

I'm telling you...

Well, whatever you're seeing is not what you think

because I'm just telling you for a fact that...

- Okay. - It's not the case.

Oh, man.

I don't know why you keep saying

I like to or prefer to masturbate. It's not true at all.

But you were there for an entire month

and you only had sex one time?

No, that's... No. No, no, no.

- How many times, Gino? - How many times...

I don't know exactly, but it was definitely more than once,

definitely more than once.

Coming up...

Gino, what site did you

and Jasmine meet on?

Um...

I can't remember exactly.

You were there for an entire month

and you only had sex one time?

The thing that happens is we get into arguments frequently

and that does affect it, okay?

It does.

I love you, Jasmine.

Gino, you got to reciprocate that passion.

Yeah. And I want to improve this situation, okay?

And I want to argue less.

But if the argument is over not having sex, just have sex.

Well, during Gino and Jasmine's blowout fight

about sending the nude photos,

some new things were revealed about Gino's dating past.

Let's take a look.

Before I met Jasmine

I was looking for, like, a long-term relationship,

but typical dating sites, they were not working for me.

Um, so I wanted to try something different.

A couple of times, but it was dinner dates.

I paid them.

Wow. Okay. Gino, I found that so...

surprising that you would actually pay women

to go out on dates with you,

not just pay for dinner, but actually pay the women.

Why did you do that?

No, that...

There was more options to girls that were,

I was more attracted to, um...

If you actually paid them?

- For dinner. - Oh, my God.

I was not having sex with these girls. Dinner.

How much would you pay them

I can't remember exactly.

But it varied. Uh, probably 100 or less.

Hundred dollars. Okay.

But this is my past. This is my past. This is...

How many dates like this did you go on, Gino?

Probably less than five.

How many dates do you think it was, Jasmine?

A minimum of 30?

Gino, what is the sugar baby relationship like?

Like what... what does that whole thing entail?

I mean, it's just like a friendly date

that where the man could help out the,

for companionship,

that the man would could pay some money...

- Okay. - To go on a date.

There's probably some women on there that are looking

for more than just dinner, okay?

- Yeah. Okay. - Oh, man.

Yeah. Okay, Gino.

So what site did you

and Jasmine meet on?

Um...

All right, so we met on...

believe it or not,

a sugar baby site.

Okay, okay.

There is still so much more to talk about.

We'll be right back after the break.

Coming up...

You know, people who are saying that cheating is horrible, like...

It's not the same thing, Ella.

And I'm kind of, I'm kind of offended you said that.

It's not cheating because he's not lying to me about it.

You lied.

It's really up.

And later...

You didn't know that Usman had called Zara?

- Nope, I did not. - Oh, my gosh.

What is that, like...

Wow. This is humiliating.

Three, two.

All right. Now let us focus on Kim and Usman.

We first met Usman on season four

of Before the 90 Days,

but unfortunately that marriage did not last.

So he attempted to find true love again,

this time with Kim.

So Kim, how has your dynamic changed

with Usman since you became officially his girlfriend?

Um, since I've been back, things are a little, you know,

I don't talk to him as much.

I don't know, like, making plans is, kind of, hard right now.

Here we go, there's always an excuse.

Kim, you said that you would allow Usman

to marry a second wife and have kids.

I don't really know, to be honest, you know?

I feel, like, if him and I were to get married.

I am 51 years old.

I cannot... I don't want any more children.

I can't have any more children.

But I feel like I would be selfish

if I did not let this man have children.

It's his culture for him to have children to carry on his name.

But like the marriage thing, we haven't talked about that yet.

Whoa!

We haven't even crossed that step.

That's why it's crazy we were even talking about this part.

But I have to, because it's his culture, you know?

So Kim, how would you feel about Usman being intimate

with one other woman?

I don't know, like, how I feel about it.

I can't really say until it happens.

Is it going to be easy? No.

And everybody's like, "Oh, you're crazy. Oh, you're crazy."

Maybe. But I love him.

Is there anybody who thinks this ain't going to work?

- Memphis. - I can't share my man.

I really can't.

But at the end of the day, if she's willing to sacrifice for the person that she loves,

I mean, who am I to tell her that that's wrong?

That's something that she, you know,

that they will have to deal with, but he...

Mm-mm.

I know that.

And I know that.

You know, people who are saying, you know,

that cheating is horrible, like...

It's not the same thing, Ella.

And I'm, kind of, I'm kind of offended you said that

because when and if this day happens,

that's not cheating because he's not lying to me about it.

I'm going in knowing about it. You lied.

And he's not lying to me.

Let me tell you, if some other woman,

like, he just cheated on me with,

this whole relationship would be over.

But this is something...

This is a culture thing.

It might not be right...

Let me finish. Let me finish.

It might not be right for you, but I don't look at it as like

he's cheating on me because I'm aware of it, right?

Do you see what I'm saying?

I'm very well aware that it would rip my heart out

to know that he's going to lay down

with some other woman to have children

because I can't,

but it's a respect issue.

We'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

I mean, let me enjoy being Sojaboy's girlfriend.

Let's move on to another topic.

Along with their physical connection,

another important aspect to this relationship

was Usman's relationship with Kim's son, Jamal.

Now we're going to bring in Jamal

to see how he feels about Usman possibly

becoming his stepdad.

Please welcome Jamal.

What's up, what's up?

- How are you doing, Jamal? - I'm good.

Jamal, tell me how you feel about Usman

possibly becoming your stepdad

now that you have seen how things

have transpired between them.

Well, first, I'm never going to call Usman my stepdad.

That just sounds weird off the bat.

And why not?

Um, because he could be my mom's son, for one.

- Wow. - Which is kind of weird.

I'm sorry. But I don't know, like...

From what I've seen, you know, his intentions, you know,

are still, it's still kind of a puzzle to me.

You know, I can't sit here and say, like,

I wouldn't disrupt the wedding.

You can't say you wouldn't disrupt the wedding.

You know, y'all's relationship is a little mysterious.

Well, it looks a little strange, doesn't it?

What... what is strange about it?

I mean, for one, it's the age difference.

For two, you know, she's been taken advantage of plenty of time.

So, I mean, you got Usman a MacBook and a PS5.

Those are expensive gifts, you know,

and she managed a lot for him there.

So it's, like, I don't know if he wants an assistant

or if he wants a girlfriend.

Wow.

I don't know.

It's like he doesn't, he doesn't cut straight.

I mean, I would never call someone of my potential.

I feel like that's just disrespectful.

So do you think Usman is playing your mom?

Oh...

Say it, Jamal.

Coming up...

Oh, you called her?

That's up.

So, Jamal, you think Usman is playing your mom?

Oh...

Say it, Jamal.

I think it's two different types of love.

I think my mom is in love with Usman,

and I think he loves the idea of my mom.

Okay.

I don't think it's cool to call her your potential.

Like, what the is that?

Like, what is a potential?

Well, Kim and Usman hit a snag

when Usman revealed his past relationship

with another American woman named Zara.

When Kim found out the real meaning

behind his song "Zara"

they had their biggest fight yet.

Wow.

I don't understand how somebody could just

tell me he loves me and then just, like,

the whole... I feel like everything was a lie now, you know?

You need to do something big.

I don't know what the that is because I'm not you.

But I'm not...

Until you prove it and you prove I'm the one,

I don't even want to be around you, seriously.

Oh, is it funny?

Is this funny, too?

I hope that was funny, too.

Jamal, how did it make you feel

seeing your mother so upset?

Usman, you know, that was up.

To find out that Zara was an "actual woman"

was like a slap in my face.

He should have been honest with me

because I would have never pursued anything with him

if I thought that he was dating somebody else.

When I told you I was falling in love with you,

you should have been like, "Hey, you know,

I respect you enough to tell you right now

that I'm in a relationship with somebody."

Oh, my gosh.

You're over here trying to justify yourself whereas

you should just admit, like, "Yeah, I should have told you."

Like, that's it.

Well, when Kim left Tanzania, she thought she was leaving

her issues about Zara behind.

What she didn't realize was that Usman

might not have closed that book entirely.

Take a look.

Oh, no.

Oh, you called her?

Well, thank you for calling me.

Okay.

- Wow. - Are you sure about that?

Wow. This is humiliating.

That's up.

That's really up.

You didn't know that Usman had called Zara?

Nope. I did not.

Like, what the is that?

Like...

I need a minute.

Why are you clapping at her like that?

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After everything I did, to call Zara,

is a slap in my face.

Feel like, "What do I do now?

Do I make it work now?"

I had a friend come out and hang out with me.

Not the same one, but a different one.

Were you guys intimate at all?

I'll tell you one thing, you're not ready

for this type of relationship, honey.

Are you a grown adult?

Do you need people to, like, coddle you?

Yeah, I know I up. I owned it.

This was meant to be a one-time thing only.

No, no, no.

That's something you should just never do.

You had so much criticism for my relationship

and for everybody on here,

and yours is the worst one here.

This is Benjamin's friend that Gino was talking to.

Ximena, are you back together?

Wow.