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- Welcome back to the Osborne's Basement tapes.

This is Amy from Netflix. This is Amy from Netflix.

You might notice me from the Dance Cult documentary

that nobody asked me if I wanted to be in Mm.

Unauthorized footage. We're on episode seven

of season two.

- Getting through it. - We're getting through it.

We're motoring. There's only 13 left in this season. Oh,

- Really? So

- You, you, you got more episodes the second season?

- Yeah. - Yeah. How many? I mean like seven more or

- Something.

It was, we, no, we did 10, I

- Can't - Remember.

- 20 and then 20. So it was 10 episodes.

Season one, there was a, they, they called it two point.

It was, it was 2.0 and 2.5. 'cause they broke the season up.

And then we did same with the third season.

- So they broke up the airing of the season as well.

- Nobody knew what they were doing when this show came out

because they were like, how many episodes do people want?

Do they want this many or that many?

And it was all a guessing game.

- Well, speaking of tv,

let's get right into a brand new television set

for Ozzy and Sharon.

- I remember that tv. What do you want

it to do? Come back up.

- Come back up to do do the number.

I like don't, just don't turn. I keep it going up and down.

It's great.

The Batcave lives.

- Oh wow. Wow. Look - At that.

- That is fancy. - It's rock and roll.

- That was like state of the art technology at it. It time.

- It's cool. - It's

- Fucking broken, - You know?

- Of course. - That was way ahead of its time.

- I know. Did you have that custom made? Yeah.

Into that cabinet? Yeah.

It kind of still feels like top techno.

Like if I'm in a hotel room

and the TV spins, I'm very excited.

- Right. - Like I can watch it on the couch or the bed.

Yeah. Or the bed. Yeah. Or in the bathtub.

- You guys, you guys don't have a

TV in your room anymore, do you? Or

- Do you?

No, they just have this, the little ones that I got them.

- Yeah. - Sharon, do you remember anything that you were,

I guess we didn't call it binging at the time,

but watching while you had to be stuck in bed A lot. Movies

- At that time I was addicted to MTV,

the videos, music videos.

Really? Yeah. I loved watching them. 120 minutes. Loved,

- Loved them.

- Yeah. We used to have MTV on all

- The time.

All the time. Even once you were on it a lot. Yeah.

- C-N-N-C-N-N and MTV.

- That was it. Oh yeah. I guess it was non-profit.

- No, we don't watch it either now. They're

- Both shit.

- Yeah. I mean, I don't, well what's,

I don't know what's currently on MTV.

- No, I don't either. It's basically being

- Teen pregnancy and like love island stuff kind

- Of.

No, it's being completely propped up by

- Basketball - Lights.

No, no. Rob Derich show still. That's,

- I thought it was Catfish.

- No cat. Ridiculous - Catfish

- And ridiculousness of the two things

that keep that network

- On are Kelly.

I dunno if you remember this episode at all.

- I do not. I dunno what's coming. And

- A lot wobbler.

Oh, Hannah goes, what's a wobbler?

'cause I have it written down like six times.

- Well, what is a - Explain

- Is so wobbling - Explain a wobbler

- A tantrum.

But anything we call them wobblers 'cause, which I love.

- Yeah. - And I'm using that now.

- I'm a wobbler. - But it could be a,

it could be a rough one for you.

Another I know.

Well, you two are getting the brunt of this era

because you know, you're, you're in Benoit all the time

and you're fucking going crazy.

- Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah.

I'm genuinely terrified. You're

- Terrified because I dunno what's coming on.

Okay, well just

- Think - About,

- You have a lot of interviews to do. Okay.

- Just think about this.

'cause I, I have to deal with it one day.

Baby Sydnee will watch this.

- I know that. And maybe adopt some

of the same behaviors. I'm just

- Gonna go, mom, you are - Wild.

Let's hit it. When this week.

Do you wanna, haven't I already spoken

to all these people anyway?

- Show me. No, no, no, no.

So Chris Amarus, who's doing the dog's calendar, wants

to take some photos of you with the dog.

- No, I told them no. It's a dog book.

I don't wanna take it. No. So dogs

- Are your life.

- Yes, they are my life.

But I would rush much rather be doing

something else like nothing.

- Okay. Kelly said, no, please do not make her sit there

and pose with the dogs. Send Bill.

- Well straight to Did you do it Cal? That was to Michael.

You schmuck. It was to the photographer Then why did it

say Michael at Divine?

Huh? Van Vanity Fair. How long is that gonna be?

And what is it for? It's not for the cover, is

- It?

It's only a story.

So it's not like, then why the

fuck are they flying someone out?

Can I just do on the phone? It's a very important

- Piece.

I'm such an ungrateful little shit. Oh my God.

How'd you go to New York tomorrow?

- Tomorrow - I have one song to

- Do.

Like

- A Can't you do it here?

- 'cause my producer is in New York.

Why do, why is he calling up today

telling us we need to be there tomorrow?

'cause I was supposed to be in New York today.

- You were, - But nothing was booked with Qua.

You are making more outta it than they need to be.

A million people don't need to be doing everything for me.

I can do it. Okay, but you don't want to.

That was my favorite drink. It's one carrying.

No, it's lemon. Oh yeah. Those are so good. Ooh, I loved

- Them.

I love that. It seems like you just woke up

and you've already glued on that ponytail.

- I'm just telling you, I I was questioning whether

that is like a clip in ponytail. I think

- So. I think

- So.

It's so bad. It's

so unbelievably bad. She probably slept in it.

- Oh yeah, you're right.

There's probably a little dog bee in it. Who knows

- More than a little.

- You'd hit Melinda.

- I know. For no reason. You just hit Melinda

because she's like doing her job.

But those man,

those Vanity Fair people are real assholes

wanting to do an interview with you now. What? I

- Know, right?

What? Not the cover. Dar

- Yeah.

- Ozzy. Did you realize the kids were as

moody and bad temper people?

- Oh yeah. All the time.

I go and I teach other all day, every day.

- I didn't know they were so badly behaved.

I must have been. It's a lot of drama on another planet. You

- Also have to remember, mom, this is on the show.

So it was a moment that is worth being on tv.

- Yeah. It's like the sports highlight reel.

- Yeah. So it doesn't necessarily mean that we were always

- Throwing down, - But this time seems

particularly dramatic.

But it, I mean, you're going through a trauma

and you're a kid to, to be fair, the

- Whole family is, you know, I'm, we are kids.

Yeah. We are going through one of the worst times in our

family's life.

You're lashing out.

But it's simultaneously one of the best times too.

- Yeah, it's weird. It's such a,

it was such a weird, like there

- Was a duality, clash of world, everything.

And you seem overwhelmed too,

because the attention must have taken you by surprise

to have three sheets

of interviews coming up all of a sudden. You

- Know, they weren't, it seems like a lot.

They weren't prepared for it. Nobody was.

- How can you be? No.

Now, Jack, do you remember your a OL screen name?

- Yes, I do. What was it? It was, it was Jack Sabbath at a

- OL. Oh, perfect.

- Yeah. - What about you Kelly?

- I don't - Remember.

- You don't remember you? I - Think I had something

PeeWee's Playhouse related for sure.

- I - Do remember, but I'm not

- Saying what it was. Do

- It, - Say

- It.

Come on, Kelly. Well, you think someone

- Dig - Something up?

- It was a frog. Was it froggy? No.

It was something to do with frogs. No, go on. Kelly.

Was it Hanson? Kelly Lee? What? What was it?

- Hanson? Were you a big Hanson fan?

- Huge Hanson fan. Huge Hanson

- Fan.

They're nice, right? Yeah. Really? They're great guys. So

- Do it - Fucking bad.

- Do it. Say - It.

- Say it. I'll say my other one.

- Come - On

- It.

Go on. It was Butthole love.

- Butthole love. - Yeah. That was what my screen name was.

What the fuck? I thought it was really funny.

But only now do I realize like

how inappropriate and like, not

- What the - Fuck was

- That?

- Where did she learn this shit?

- That's like the worst thing you could have thought of.

And that's your name.

- Butthole Love. And

- With no Numbers,

you got the first Butthole Love on a OL. That's huge.

- It should have been Butthole Love 69. 69.

- Yeah, exactly. It's terrible.

- Wow. Okay. Damn - You kids.

- I, I, the - Longest part, LUBI

- Once signed up for a race.

It was like a, like a spot in race, you know,

like the tough mud things and you had to do it with a team.

And so I, I signed my team up

and the name was Hugh g Gion

- Smart. Oh my God, my

- God.

And like when I went to like, get my like number

before the race, they were like,

and you're with Team Hugh G.

And everyone just like fell over laughing.

- We had a guy in Germany going with a board

and he rings a bell and we go, Harry Bullocks.

Harry Bullocks.

- Do you remember that? In hotels? Yeah.

They used to have, there was a phone call for you. Yeah.

They would page the reception if you weren't in the room

with a little, your name on a chalkboard used

Harry Bullock. Butthole Love

- Butthole Love Kelly. That might be,

- I know - Your new name.

I'm gonna save you my phone as Butthole. Love

- LUV though, - Right?

- Well, Jack's back working with bands. Oh no.

And we get to see once again one of his discoveries.

Okay. Is it, are these moments cringey for you? I just

- A little bit.

- Is it the flip phone? - No, the flip phone.

I would love to have Back Life is

so much simpler with a flip phone.

- What's cringey about it? I mean you're,

- I don't know, just kind of like stupid.

Just like teenage and stupid.

- They're called delusion. I found 'em ages ago

and I actually signed them about 18 months ago.

So it's about time they got that shit together.

It ain't the album of the century. All right.

- Oh, Dave's van, you don't

- Fucking know that.

I know it's not. 'cause it's an EP

G so it can't be the album.

- More hitting. - They're sitting around rolling up dudes.

- Good. No, it's Dave

and I used to give each other dead arms all day long.

- We're fucking an hour late.

- It's not bad. It's not actually. They're really into it.

- That's good. Like that. That's really good.

Pretty good sound. We got here better than ever.

- Were they in their garage?

- Yeah. They built like, it was actually kind

of smart What? They did A

- Studio - Isn't

- There?

Say it. Are we the best you've ever developed?

- They had a jack.

Do you still have the price tag on your cat?

- Easy though. Old men. I'm buying

- The way I hear this story, fashion choices.

- That was like the - Biggest controversy

Cool. For a while was

- Sister was C.

Right. Wait, did we just hear that? Do you wanna rewind it?

Jack or Kelly? Is

- Kelly here right - Now?

- That was like the biggest controversy

ever. It was a you or

- Your sister. It's like,

- Wait, who was it Jack or Kelly?

- Is Kelly here right now? - Is that a

- It was Kelly here right now.

Spicy. Is that ca in the

- Yeah, she's recording a papa.

Pete. Kelly

doesn't like that at all right now.

She's like,

- Because you feel like they're making fun of you. Yeah,

- We probably not.

- Well, it's the ongoing battle over

who discovered delusion?

- No, I, I give credit what credit's due.

It was Kelly's friend came up to me

and was like, Hey, come see this band.

I saw them and we all went together.

But it was Kelly's friend.

- Where were they playing when you went to see them?

- The whiskey. - Are they still together?

- No, Jason, the, the, the singer and like, main songwriter.

He went on to like, write songs for a bunch of other artists

and still release his music.

And I, I saw something where he was at the Grammys.

I dunno if he was nominated, but I know he still

- Made, that would've been good if he was Yeah.

It's truly not bad.

- They actually were pretty smart with what they did.

We, they had like a, a development deal to record an ep,

which was, I think it was like four

or five tracks. They were supposed

- Whoa, whoa.

What Honey? Good.

- Yeah. Yeah, they sounded good. Yeah.

- But they used the, instead of hiring a, a producer

and getting a studio and all that, they just were like,

well, can we just have the money

and build out our own studio?

- Great. - I was like, all right. So they did.

- How many of those mental patient collared shirts did you

have in your wardrobe?

- I had a few. - Where did you get them from?

- I don't know, but all I,

all I remember about that shirt though.

Is that wearing it when I went into rehab

and the paparazzis took a photo of me walking around

with it and like,

- Yeah.

Is it a label or are they like hot topic mental patience?

- It, it was mental. It was a psych ward T-shirt.

It had like a patient number.

It was just a, you know, a joke. But

- Very hot topic. See,

- Very hot - Topic. Yeah,

- Yeah, yeah, - Yeah.

- This dog is ridiculous right now. So cute.

He's, he's calm. Calm. Unlike Kelly.

Ready for another, another wildlife.

- Okay. This is a rough episode for us, Kelly.

I'll just wait until you see the next

- One.

Feel the next feel. Yeah. What do you mean? Is it

- Bad?

It gets dark. Kelly. It dark. These next few episodes

- We're having fun.

Santi would like to make Kelly a present

of a ladies' blue denim fitted blazer.

Why not?

- I'm not very well today.

No, I'm not feeling very well today sake.

Can I not go in one room fucking house? God.

See Melinda's face warmed up. What was that?

I didn't want the cameras around.

And I'm looking rather gray.

No, I'm not very well, you're like, no, I'm not

very well today.

I'm sick of it. I want a fucking

- Break.

You haven't been there for all of it. Mom.

When do you want the break? How now?

You want it this week, Kelly. I'll get it for you.

I'll do it for you. I know,

- What was that?

- Just Kelly. She's really upset because of the workload

and everything that's coming in.

And she doesn't wanna do it. She wants to be a kid.

She wants time off. It's hard. And the next

- Couple of months are going to be really hard.

- Really, really hard.

And the situation is, is that Kelly signed the contract

and she's gotta learn that.

You know, it's not a game.

You either do it or you don't do it. It's, it's terrible.

You've got no life. But it's that or that. Ozzie.

Go talk to her. She's sad. Go give her a hug.

- Don't do it. Ozzie. Oh no, don't do it. Save yourself.

You just threw him in the fire. I know. Poor Ozzy.

- Oh, I

fuck you. You

- Posted.

Wow. Don't, don't answer me.

Do that again.

You just go fucking, don't ask me to do that again. My job.

- She's so dramatic. I love her so much.

- She's, she's going, she's fucking

- Wait.

Can we play what Ozzie says again?

I think you say I got balled

- Me.

Do that again. It's got ock to death.

Got Bullock to radio. Yelled and fucking reamed.

I I I'm the fucking mans around here. Take my joke.

- She's so dramatic. I love her. So, Aw.

- Oh my god. - Ball looked railed and reamed. Oh my God.

Do you know what you were screaming? I mean, before,

- The faster if I listen to it,

I could probably decide I can't make it out.

Make it out. Lemme see a different time.

Because I have a different outfit on. Yeah, you do. Fucking

- You had all this to come.

I think that daddy might have asked you if

you were on something.

Probably it's,

- Look at his pants.

They had a blue stripe on and now they have a red stripe.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- That was a - Good spotting.

- Yeah. - Yeah. I think that he asked me if I was on drugs

and I said that I fucking wasn't, but I fucking was. He

- Got, he must have said you've taken something

and you went, I haven't, I haven't

- Ozzy did it ever go Well when you approached her in,

in those moods?

- No. - Do you remember one time Kelly was screaming

for seven hours and I said, I can't go in there.

She won't listen to me. You go in.

And then he came back and did the same thing.

Never asked me to do that again.

- Seven hours at what age? - 13.

- 12? - Yeah. I was

- Gonna say 12.

Oh my goodness. Seven hours is a little extreme.

- Mom. Hey Kelly. It was I,

'cause I went into your room at like two in the morning

being like, please shut the fuck up.

And you threw a phone at me

- Just screaming about nothing.

I was a lot of pain. Yeah.

- No, mom, she had Kelly was on the phone and mom came in

and was like, you're, it's 10 o'clock

time for bed or whatever.

And mom took the phone or like unplugged it.

- Oh, me. - And took the, took the cord. Me.

That's why the phone got thrown at me.

- Oh my God. I don't recall. Okay. But

- Do you wanna, - Do you remember this at all?

No, not

- At all.

You wanna know the funny thing though? I'm just trying

to figure out what side of the family that comes from,

because my daughter will do things like that

and just scream and cry in her room.

- Which one? Andy? Sharon? - Yeah.

- The drama. Andy and I are a little alike.

- Yeah. There. It, it is weird.

Like the other night I went into her

room and it was 11 o'clock.

I'm like, why are you crying?

She's like, there could be spiders

and I don't want to have to cut my nails

before I go back to school.

Aw. That was it. That was it. Hours. She was crying in bed.

So I just, I was like, Andy, I, it's

- Me and Andy really get each other.

So I, that's why I said you have all this to come,

- But sometimes it's just chemical probably.

Right? Like, you're like, are you hungry?

- I was, no, but also like, like I was riddled

with mental disorders that were undiagnosed

and unmedicated and

- I don't think they knew how to diagnose them back then.

- That's probably true. - Yeah.

- It's hard to find out what's wrong with you.

You just screaming. I guess I was in a little pain, Amy.

But you seem very calm about it. Ozzy.

- I wouldn't have a handled it like that.

- That just gets walked out. Walked out.

Fuck you ba of dad would've fuck off you bastard.

It's so horrible. And you don't even yell, even yell back.

- No, it just rolls off. - Yeah. A point.

- You'll lose you. Yeah. Please don't hand me do that again.

- Yeah. Once you got to that level.

- But I'll say, do you not remember that time

with having cameras around us all the time in everything

that we did and everywhere that we went

and every conversation that we had.

And it got to a point where you would just like,

leave me the fuck alone.

- Yeah. And it would, the thing that I would get,

I would get frustrated at is the taking stuff outta

context. Prime example.

- Right? - Like that's what we, well

- Went out with the blue straw

to come out with the red straw.

- Yeah. And it's like, well, no, that's

not what happened. Not the same

- Fight, - But everyone at home thought, oh, look at that.

Just, it, it was all, like I said earlier,

- That that wasn't right.

Because when I came back in with the red strip

- Yeah.

Yeah. And your hair was wet.

- So I always equated the show to a sports highlight reel.

Yeah. You know, you could watch the whole 90 minute game

and it seems all right.

There was some action. But if you cut it down to, you know,

the best moment, it was the most exciting game ever.

- Were you a dramatic teenager, Sharon?

- Oh yeah. - Would you scream like that?

- No. 'cause my father would've strangled me.

- Yeah. And - Thrown me down the stairs.

No, I, I couldn't get away with it.

- Yeah. I mean, I appreciate the calm on Odyssey

because plenty of dads would've just thrown a slap

- Least 'cause she gets to, she get

to a pitch when nothing would

work. So I just got a fucking,

- My, my mother wouldn't stand for it either.

But I was more afraid of my dad.

You were always afraid of your dad.

- Yeah. - Right.

- Well, I weren't to scream like that from them.

- Kelly. Sure. Fucking

- Wasn't.

I heard that out the side of ya

- Kelly Sure.

Wasn't afraid of her dad.

- No. Would you just tire yourself out

eventually and fall asleep?

- Yeah. - Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

- A girl back in lies wrong.

She said, sorry, dad. Aw. It'd

- Be, it'd be a bit of, there'd

- Be a - Lot of that.

Leave myy lip outta it.

My next note just says, Kelly continues to wobble. Kidding?

I

- Wobbly.

It's a tough one. Oh gosh.

It makes me look so ungrateful. Disgust.

- We weren't grateful. That's the thing.

- You've had a bad day. It's nearly over.

You should go to bed and have

- And I'm not doing a Barbara Walters thing.

- I told you you don't have to. No

- Vanity pen.

No. Bob Walters

- Pretty big outlets.

I'm told you don't have to do it. So don't do it.

Don't try and look for a fight. Nobody's fighting with you.

You do what you wanna do.

Kelly's leaving now for New York.

- Oh God. Do you need you all right for money, Kelly? I've

- Got like a hundred dollars on phone.

- You got, you got. And - You need more cash than that.

- How much you got Kelly? - A hundred dollars. I don't can

- Let me get some cash.

I'll

- Mom.

I told him I didn't need any, he was able to pay me

- Back.

No, you must have some cash. I'm gonna miss you.

Will you call me as soon as you land?

- Yeah, I call you when I get to the

- Airport.

Okay. You've got your phone. Is it charged? Okay.

I love you. I miss you so much. Paula. I love you.

Two hands, not half a hug. Okay.

- I'm going for like 24 hours and I'll be back.

Chester, I don't need that much though.

- Just take you, - He still does this today.

- Need this. I don't have some cash. You have none.

Several types. I'll rock and roll girl.

- I that fucking bag.

I wish I still had it. It's so gorgeous.

- What, - What kind of bag?

It was a brown leather Christian dual Saddleback saddle.

Yeah. It was so gorgeous. Clearly you

- Wanted the cash, right?

I love your pretending. Like

- Can't.

No, to this day it still makes me uncomfortable. Really?

Because I feel like I'm taking something from my

parents that I don't deserve

- At this age. You cared?

- Yeah. It it still, - I thought you were faking.

- No, I wasn't faking. Well, there

- Is like a smirk also.

You have to remember there was srk at that point. I

- Was making, I was making my own money

so I didn't need money from my dad.

- Right, - Right.

- Well we've all done that as teenagers. Like No, no.

Don't, don't. I don't need anymore.

Like it's very, dads are so good for always having cash.

- Yeah. I like the, the just like,

I'm out like running down the stairs.

She's got her ppy long stockings on

- And like two grand in your hand every time.

I don't have cash.

I feel like my dad would be very disappointed.

- Yeah. - Dads always have cash.

Do you always have cash on you?

- Usually, yeah.

- Yeah. I mean, it's kind of going away. But also

- Cash is - Not the king still got a tip.

I, I never have any. It's crazy. Do you still do that Ozzy?

- Yep. Yeah, he does.

- And where exactly are you keeping it? Just kidding.

- Secret dad place.

- Dads always have their secret spots.

Okay, let's get back to Jack and the band.

- Hello? Yes. Hey Jason. I'm doing well.

I'm waiting for your fucking demo dude. For now.

Give us a cd. We just need to finish stuff

and then give us, give us the masters.

- Do you have a retainer in or something? I think

- So.

- Don't spoof it off or anything. Just burn it as is.

And we need to get this done.

And I just said we need the fucking cd.

- Yeah, - But what the fuck's his problem?

Then we need the fucking CD because what's in your mouth?

Go anywhere with it. We need it retainer.

What the fuck is his problem?

Jesus Fucking Christ. What? Yeah.

The fucking guitarist of delusion is a fucking asshole.

And he is being so protective over this fucking demo.

Unless it's true, people should hear it.

They need to get their name out there.

That's just a development.

Is that aub? That's is a problem.

- That was an assistant that I had. Oh yeah. I remember now.

- And I

Oh yeah.

Because my world is in so come

- Dig.

God, me out. It's horrible. Come dig me. It's not Yeah.

Said that's horrible. No. Come dig me out.

Come dig me out.

- I - Didn't think I could sing that. There you go.

How cute you are. Shit out.

- Yeah. - Must I like your jacket. I like it.

I like that you did it with like

- Your hands in your - Pocket.

Like, I never recorded anything in my life without my hands

wedged so hard in my pocket.

Aw. And some

- Weird slippers.

- Alright, here. That's good.

- Here we go. Here we go. Kelly's happy. Good. Perfect.

That's very uncomfortable. I know. Gimme a little bit.

I see something

- Poor Mandy again.

Putting up with behavior. Oh, my terrible behavior.

I can't really move.

What was that shoot for with you and

- Mandy?

Cover of algo. They barely show her too, so.

Oh yeah. Kel. Get it.

- All right. We did it. Let's, I had to send,

because of this one, I had to send them flowers.

I like all this because I was in such a fo He's gonna

- Like Kelly.

I'm fucking,

- It's Kelly on lane one.

Kelly. She's phoning me.

- Todd's Alright.

Carol, would you please just phone in and let me know?

You're okay.

- Alright. Bye.

- That was a phone call to say everybody

can have the money back.

She doesn't wanna do anything anymore.

- I hate it when things are unorganized

and things are crazy like this.

I hate going to things like this.

- You mentioned you had to apologize to someone after this

- Trip.

Yeah. The, they edited around that because Jack

and I had a photo shoot together. So it was like,

- Yeah, there was some, there were,

there was different photo shoots that they

- Spliced in.

They spliced in. Yeah. But was, but the one

where I was writing on the mirror, I wrote,

I fucking hate this shit.

And some I was really rude and I didn't wanna be there.

And I was so ungrateful.

And I can see now watching this why I had the

reputation that I had.

'cause I did not know how to say

I'm scared and I don't, or I need

- A break or I don't feel worthy of this.

Yeah. I mean it was a lot. Consider her age.

She, they didn't have much of a child growing growing up.

They front, they were always on on one thing or another.

Never any time for themselves.

- Yeah. - When you got a crew in your house 24 7

and wherever you go, they follow you.

It's got, it drives you nuts. Yep.

- Yeah. It's a lot of being looked at for that age. It

- Stop being young fucking microscope, you know?

- Yeah. And you're going through, like, your

- People would come to me.

Yes. People would come to me

and say, are the cameras in your house all the time.

I go, I couldn't have my car. Paul McCarney said that to me.

He said, fuck camera's in my, my house is my house.

- Yeah. Sacred space.

- And people would say, why didn't you go to a studio

and club your house built?

- It wouldn't have worked - No way.

- Well that, and that was always my issue with like,

when they were like, oh, let's bring the osbournes back.

We don't all live together. Yeah. Like, it would never work.

The only way way it could work is if we did all like,

all right, we're gonna move back in together

for six weeks. Would walk

- God.

Can you imagine that

- With all the kids?

- Go to an island. - We would all all

- Yes.

An island, Osborne Island. That would be fun.

- I mean, I remember one time saying to the guy,

I need a fucking room where I could just sit

and scratch my ass being on a camera or whatever.

- You didn't, - I didn't pick a room.

And I picked that picture a room

and I, there's a fucking camera stuck up in the wall.

- They had, they had cameras that looked like alarm senses.

So like, you couldn't, you'd be like, is that, isn't that,

and then it was only when I watched the show back did I go,

oh wait, that was camera.

- And they said to me, I said, I said, I thought,

I thought this was a safe room.

What's that, Karen? Oh, we, we had to know where you were.

All I know. I'm out, out there.

There's a good chance you're gonna be there.

- Yeah. Scratching my ass.

And that room, the room that you had,

like the sit down Yeah.

About all the going out. Those were hidden.

- Yeah. Yes, they were. - Yeah.

And 'cause we don't see that room otherwise really ever

- Mean that the, the thing, the trick

for the Osborn was the editing.

- Yeah. - Because if you,

if you get a load film you wanna make,

so it sound look crazy, you could do it.

- But it was crazy. Yeah. It seems very overwhelming.

- Yeah. In a weird way. It was also very lonely.

- Yes. - Yes. It was very

- Lonely. Very lonely.

- Yeah. It was, it was, it was like, I can,

you thought watching this

and like, I just remember being like, just,

- It's a weird feeling.

It's, it's a weird feeling.

You, it's sort, it's kind of like lonely. But it's,

- Daddy used to feel that way on the road when

he was on the road.

You're surrounded by people all the time.

But it's, it's lonely.

- Well, it's there on the road.

It's being on the road's different to that.

When you sit in your fucking house, your house is your house

- And people are projecting things onto you,

but don't really know Yeah.

What you're feeling, what you're going through.

- It's - Isolating.

- Behind the camera. There's a guy you don't know,

they lived in the garage and they have shifts 24 hours.

The toilet was, the toilet was the only room

that ever had a fucking camera in.

I'm surprised. And that would've had anybody nap if you

- Yeah.

You never, I don't think there's a single shot

of your bathroom or dressing room in this

- That is - No, that was your bathroom. Yeah.

- But - Never, yeah. They never went into your bathroom.

- The dressing - Room.

- I feel like there's one scene in the first season

where maybe you're sitting on the ground in the

bathroom reading a magazine.

- Yeah. That's mom's bathroom. Yeah.

Oh, it's because they had, they had separate bathrooms.

- Gotcha. Gotcha.

I think you sound quite good in the studio.

You don't like hearing that?

- No. I thought I sounded terrible.

- I feel like over the course of this couple years, your,

your voice got stronger.

- It definitely did. - Did you have

coaching or you just, were

- You belting - Out your frustration? I

- Guess - Both belting out my frustration.

Yeah. Oh, the teacher was somebody that worked with Ozzy

and then worked with Cal.

- Oh, voice coach. Yeah. Nice.

I mean, I don't know.

I don't, you, I'm surprised you're uncomfortable seeing that

- Even though she was 18, she looked so young.

Yeah.

- You look like 12. Look really young. 13. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, you're back from New York

and have a fresh demo that you wanna share with Ozzy

- As good as Kelly.

Bob, she gone out.

- No, she's in the office. She's downstairs.

Tissue to blow my nose.

My hair is clearing

and I can twiddle my toes.

I'm feeling much What room is that today? That will, yes.

I'm feeling much better today.

I'm ready now to go out and play spare.

- Hooray. Don't stop. Do you wanna get me your

record? Oh, Lola, I'm

- Go.

I'm coming. Coming.

What song do you wanna hear first? I

- Did.

- They're all, we've got three songs on and one song on.

- Has this got the same songs there?

- No, they're all different songs on,

- Oh, let, let, lemme just fix it.

- What time is it? - Remember how loud he used to have it?

- Yeah.

- So true.

I love

- You should be really proud of yourself.

I know. I'm

- Aw.

Aw, so sweet.

- Do do you remember what you were

thinking when you were hearing it?

- No. Fuck it was my fucking twin.

- Well, I don't know. Like you can jog memories of like,

oh yeah, I remember hearing that

for the first time. No, no. I can't remember.

- But you're proud. You said you're so proud of her.

- She, she, she did well - Yeah.

- To go to New York and do that. Great.

- Super great. I think it's good. I still like it.

Would you get nervous playing your demos for Ozzy? Yeah.

- You know what? I think we should do what?

I think you should play a gig again.

- Yes. - I'm not saying that to be a dick.

I honestly think you should do it.

- Okay. Live podcast. And then you do one song after

- I think you should.

No. Why? Why the

- Fuck no.

Send in those emails. If you want this to happen.

- You watch when this, when with Osborn Media House,

the more people that watching this,

you're gonna start seeing that.

People are gonna be like, oh yeah.

And like start listening to your music again more.

You could be like Creed. You could come back beggar.

- Okay. - Bigger and stronger than ever.

- Can I sing back up? Yes. Thanks so much.

How is it hard for you to listen to?

Like, I, I think it sounds great.

- It's not hard for me to listen to

because when you think about it, like having no experience

and going in and working on an album at 18 years old

and figuring out how to do it and do it semi all right.

- Yeah. - I that's pretty impressive.

- Was there something you were going, like,

who were your favorite artists at that Blondie time?

- Blondie. Blondie. Blondie was my, I just love her.

She's the best. I was never, if you look at like,

I wasn't like a promiscuous child

or a, like a sexy driven child.

I was very much just myself.

- Yeah. Well,

and at that time it was very like the,

like the Britney Spears

of it all was breaking off from the moor, you know,

like rock emo girls.

And then you all got compared to each other, you had

to dress kind of like a weird little boy

with a fake ponytail.

I know. It was my fake ponytail. You were being protected.

So let's get into the last scene from this episode back

with Jack and Delusion.

- Oh, sorry about the mess.

- Casey's just, he's high strung also.

You know that Totally high strung. He's way high strung.

I mean, I'm, especially when it

- Comes to something he cares so much about.

Great Room Jack. I'm just hoping

that Casey just doesn't stop a comment. Kind of a,

- In a great room, - You know, great

- Room to you.

Maybe you get annoyed easily.

- So true. True. - So

- It's really light five.

Yeah. I like it. Oh yeah. It's good shit.

It's gonna be great after it's all done. Mm. Be really cool.

- What are you grinning about?

You're like, ah, little does he know. Ha ha.

He, you, you got such an evil grit.

- I don't care what's happening here.

- Like one of those like

- Super Bowl, they were playing Jack

- Track.

You're gonna get disgruntled and, and like want take over.

Yeah, exactly. You're gonna take over the

world and Boo Games. We

- Watched this video every day when me kids, me and Amy did.

I know. I used to watch it all the time too.

I love you Daddy Ucks. Aw.

- Aw. - You are going to Australia in about oh

10 for 10 minutes.

A pack two tomorrow.

That's your bottom dollar.

That tomorrow there'll be so

- What are you laughing at?

Sleep away. The

- God, that show is way better than this. Kardashians.

- Gorgeous. It's true.

This morning you came in and sang a Broadway song.

I know, I do. You big Broadway fan. We still love

- It.

Yeah. I'm a huge Liza Minnelli fan. Same. Just love her.

- This is so cute that you're singing with Melinda.

That's just, that's the thing about this show.

And you go back to being so childlike and you're like, oh,

because we Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's so sweet.

Do you know what you were grinning about, Jack?

- No. I have no, I'm trying to think. I was like,

- What the, - And also too, what a boring scene to

- Put in - The episode, right?

- Yeah. It was like a nothing scene. There was

- Nothing there.

Yeah. It weird.

- Maybe just the moment of them saying

to you like you were gonna, you were evil. Yeah. Maybe. I

- Think what? I don't even know.

- I think they were just trying to make it like,

what's going on in each room

- Weren't.

- Yeah. - Well, what was end? Still waiting.

- That's the end. Yeah. It's a, it's a very strange

- Ending there for this episode.

Yeah. That is it for this episode.

- That's the end of episode seven.