Original subtitles

In the criminal justice system, sexually based offenses are considered especially

heinous. In New York City, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious

felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Special Victims Unit.

These are their stories.

Look at this original 2002 Levi's. So excited for this.

I mean, I love that for you, but doesn't it hold like three songs?

It's got real buttons.

That's so satisfying.

All right, let's see if this thing works.

Maybe this is a mixtape.

How much did you get that for?

30 bucks. They're like 100 at Urban.

That sounded real.

Where's the case?

I'm gonna show this to my mom.

Mom?

Hey, pass me the Phillips number two, will ya?

And don't you have a Mandarin quiz tomorrow?

You ready?

What's up, I think you should listen to this

And

listen to the rest of the tape both sides and it's

all blank except for this section Okay, and this is the only tape like this that

you guys had the rest was music Well that must have been hard to listen to

it's fine. It's whatever

The thrift store opens at 11.

They may be able to tell us where the tapes came from.

Okay, well, Gabe, thank you. Thank you so much for bringing this in to us.

Yeah, no problem.

All right, go on. I'll see you after practice.

You know, I gotta say, I can't believe that you pay money for cassette tapes.

I still have my old Dire Straits collection.

You think that might be worth anything?

Is that a band?

I hate you.

Just go to school.

You okay?

Well, you know how boys are. They act like nothing gets to them, but I can see

it does.

He's got a therapist. He'll be all right. Yeah? And what about you?

I got a therapist, too. Good.

We'll hit the store as soon as it opens.

Here's what I'm thinking.

There's a forensic audiologist that we've worked with before.

They might be able to clean this up, see if there's anything more to hear.

What we have here is a tiny win.

Out of 120 minutes, I was able to successfully recover four seconds.

And that's a win?

I did everything I could.

Anything you can tell us about the tape itself, when it was made, how readily

available was this particular format?

Sony HF Type I, mainly used for dictation.

I can even tell you exactly when the tape was recorded.

And that's all she wrote.

My guess is someone tried to degauss this.

Did what?

Degauss. These tapes are magnetic.

That's how they hold the information.

So you wave a demagnetizing wand over it and all that data is toast.

Well, someone knew they recorded a crime and didn't want anyone finding out.

We sell dozens of tapes a day.

Can barely keep them on the shelves.

Funny how all this stuff comes back.

Well, this one looks like a home recording. It had number 56 written on

it. You know any about it? Sunday afternoon.

Let me see what I can find.

Oh, my God. I would have died for one of these when I was little.

That one's got her adoption papers and everything.

Come on.

Well, I'm good. I can drop a hint to Carisi.

Birthday gift. No.

Maybe. Mm-hmm.

Friday night, we got a decent haul from this estate sale on West 46th. The whole

building was being demoed. We took everything they had.

Got the building for next to nothing, comparatively speaking.

Foreclosed property built in 1910.

Last of the tenants moved out, so we started demo.

You recently had an estate sale.

Where'd you get the items from?

Basement. It was loaded with crap from, like, generations of tenants.

Still a ton of stuff down there.

Gonna take me another six months to sort through it all.

you mind if we take a look knock yourselves out

all

right so i just want to warn

you if we encounter a rodent of any kind my reaction will be intense noted

Hey, Rollins.

There's something back here.

You want to help me out with this?

The remains are with the ME. They're still working on cause of death, but

preliminary reports says our Vic was a woman, roughly 22 to 25 years old. And

CSU turned that building inside and out what was left of it. No other human

remains were found. Okay, is there any updates with missing persons?

UF61 was followed October 7th, 1999.

Right age range in exactly five days after the date we heard on the tape.

Tamika Davis, she was 24 when she went missing, single.

We found some employment records from 97, saying she waited tables, but

nothing from 99.

She got a record?

No. But she rented an apartment at 403 West 24th Street, the same address

mentioned on the tape. She was living there when she went missing. What about

next to Ken?

Her mom, Tiffany Davis, who reported her missing. She's still around. She's 67.

Tamika also had a son, Jaden. He's 31, but he was just a little guy at the

time. No dad on the birth certificate.

It's not a coincidence that there was a dead body and a recording of a sexual

assault in that building. So the former owner was Brendan Kearney, a known

Westies enforcer, and the FBI seized the building in 99.

That makes sense. The Westies were mostly disbanded by then, but there were

still a few running around.

They were good for two things, running coke and contract killings.

Well, we could track down whoever was heading up OC at the time. I actually

already found a detective who was undercover for narcotics back then.

Welcome back, Sergeant. It's part-time for now.

You look good. Glad to have you back.

Thank you. Well, I looked into that 24th Street apartment.

That whole 24th Street block was a hot zone. All kinds of gangs fighting for

territory. But I happen to know a guy who took down the Westies back in the

day. I'm gonna hit him up.

You want company?

Let's roll.

Black with a pack of the sweet and low.

Has it back now, but with your ugly mug?

I'll go on a cheat day. Bring it in, brother.

Good to see you.

This is Sergeant Rollins. She's with me at SVU. Chest partner calling sick?

Moved to Florida 24 hours after hanging up his badge.

What can I do for you, Sergeant? Well, I'm wondering if you recognize this

woman.

Sorry, I can't place her. There were so many of them, so many bodies.

Doesn't mean that this one didn't matter.

Where'd you find the body? Found the body in a basement on West 46th Street.

We think she was killed on West 24th.

24th? That would have been Gibbs' territory.

Mm-hmm. Miles Gibbs, best-eyed born and raised, just like you, Finn, started

dealing south of the Lincoln Tunnel. Little Upstart grew his empire all the

way up to the west side.

And, man, were those turf wars bloody.

Remember that?

Hey, man, back then, somebody would try to serve you a baggie just for sitting

where you are now.

What a world.

You must be Jaden.

Can I help you? I'm Olivia Benson. This is Renee Curry.

We're from NYPD Special Victims Unit. Is your grandmother home?

Who is it, honey?

The police.

Well, it's about time.

Tamika's dental records.

Pulled them for some cops a couple of years back.

Hacked all the way up to the precinct in Chinatown just to find out they had

already ID'd their Jane Doe.

At least Captain Benson and Captain Curry came in person, Gran.

Mm-hmm. If it's all right, we'd like to ask you a few questions.

Okay. Okay. Does the name Miles Gibbs mean anything to you?

He was Tamika's man for a bit.

Didn't last long, though.

Did she ever tell you what happened?

Mm-mm.

How about you, Jayden? You remember Miles?

Sure, yeah.

He bought me a race car when I turned five, but that's about it.

When did they break up?

Couple of days before she went missing.

Miles was a bad egg.

I guess I don't have to tell you what he did for a living, but he was paranoid.

Always accusing Tamika of talking too much.

Was she involved in Miles' business?

Absolutely not.

She hated drugs.

Hated what they were doing to the community.

So, Tiffany, there's something else that we need your help with.

Whatever you need.

He's old enough now.

Deserves the truth.

We have a sound recording of what we believe might be the last moments of

Tamika's life.

This is going to be very, very hard to hear.

So if you don't want to do it, we completely understand.

And I won't ask you again.

It's your choice, Jayden.

Okay. Yeah.

That's her.

That's my baby.

I didn't think it'd be so hard.

Oh, please.

Please. Shut up. You know you want it.

Turn that off. I'm sorry.

You know who that was.

You recognize that voice?

Yeah.

Whoever that dude was, it wasn't me.

Okay, then who was it?

If you know something, you're not just helping us, you're helping her.

I don't work with cops, no matter how nice you bat those long eyelashes.

Come on, man. I came up from bed, so I rode through boys and girls high just

like you.

Here we go with the you and me. We're not so different, psychobabble BS.

Hey, come on. We know from her mom that you two were on the outs.

Huh?

What happened there?

It was dark days back then.

Stash houses got cleaned out left and right.

Took a minute before I even realized that she was gone.

You're shaking down the wrong perp.

My crew, we're so crack.

The Westies, what's ever left of them?

They did the contract cleanups, but there was a third crew that nobody likes

to talk about.

Because they all dressed in blue.

What is all this?

Griff and I pulled every file that was ever filed in the original Miles Gibbs

case. An undercover op from the 2-9 was what eventually sunk him.

The cops had Tamika's apartment bugged for months without Miles knowing.

And that is where our cassette tape came from.

We went through every cassette tape in the storage boxes.

Tape 56 is the only one that is missing.

So the cops knew a rape had been recorded. They tried to erase it, then

chucked the tape.

Okay, so possible rape and murder from 27 years ago, and our main suspects are

cops.

Let's hear it. Okay, four cops, front and center. First, we got Jerry Kunzel.

He put his papers in shortly before Miles was arrested.

He bought a house upstate in Hornell.

Besides cashing his pension checks, he keeps a low profile.

And next, we got Paul Holliday.

He retired as soon as he could get his full pension.

Deceased as of five years ago.

Before then, he was living large in Florida.

Looks like Kunzel cashed in too early. No kidding.

Thomas Ahern, retired from the force seven years ago, got into private

security consulting.

He lives in Nyack.

Going private certainly pays, huh?

Leo Eichmeier.

Whoa. I know Leo. This guy's a DA investigator.

If Leo's involved in this, then Baxter might want me to call in a special

prosecutor from another borough. This is a conflict of interest. Hang on.

Because we don't know what he did or didn't do, so I think, for now, this all

has to stay under wraps.

Miles said that cops are raiding stash houses left and right, but these logs

only show two bus.

Two of these cops are stacked with assets.

The best way to swipe loot from raids is to not report them.

It says here that both bus were off intel from CI 17-A52.

Okay.

It was Tamika.

She was the confidential informant.

Her mom did say that when Miles said she talked too much. So we're saying she was

a CI and the very cops she was helping killed her.

Care to visit your old stomping grounds to find out?

Happy to.

Here we go. Intake photos.

You know how to use this thing?

I do.

Had to look up some Puerto Rico files last year.

17.

A1, A2.

Liv was right.

CI 17-852.

That's our girl.

Dental records were a match. These are the remains of Tamika Davis.

Impossible to tell if she was sexually assaulted, obviously, but hyoid bone was

fractured, indicating strangulation.

COD was blunt force trauma to the head.

Her last moments weren't easy. She fought hard. Okay. I appreciate your

thoroughness, but you could have told me this over the phone.

This is why you're here.

We've got a second victim.

Found them in the same bag.

These over here, skull fragments.

And these are hands and feet.

So this is a professional hit.

The killer wanted to make sure that the body couldn't be ID'd. Yep, and...

Based on boon volume and the right foot's tailless length, odds are your

victim was male.

So where's the rest of them?

Kind of shocking, isn't it?

How small we all are at the end.

Thank you for bringing my daughter home.

So there is one more thing that I need from you, Tiffany.

I need you to tell me if you recognize any of these men.

No.

They're police.

They are.

Tamika never had no problems with them. So we learned that Tamika was actually

helping them as an informant.

And you think one of these men...

Might have done this to her. What we're trying to figure out.

I know him. I know him.

He came to the apartment not too long before she went away.

They were yelling at each other in the kitchen. Did he threaten her?

No, no. He was afraid for her.

He said if she left that night that he would help her.

I mean, it's one of the last things I remembered about my mom. Thank you,

Jaden. That's very helpful.

I've been mad at her for leaving me for so long, you know?

I've been telling you for years, Jane.

You gotta let that go.

Me being mad at her kind of... kept her alive.

Hi, I'm Detective Bruno. This is Detective Griffin. We're with the NYPD

Special Victims. Is Jerry here?

Out of town.

I'm exactly sure when he'll be back, but I'll let him know you stopped by.

Have a nice day.

Hey, can we get his cell number?

Mrs... Leticia.

I'm his... We live together.

Look, am I under arrest or something?

You're not under arrest.

But it wasn't very considerate of Jerry to leave you home alone and not tell you

where he was.

Is he treating you right, ma'am?

Not as good as I deserve.

But we broke up a long time ago.

Jerry doesn't live here anymore.

No. Huh.

It's interesting because, uh, someone has been cashing his pension checks.

Look, the jerk walked out on me.

Just want to know how to reach him. Well, good freaking luck.

I haven't heard from a loser in 25 years.

Jerry's been missing for 25 years, and you didn't report it? He was a dumbass.

First, he quits his police job. Says he can't stay in the place no more.

Then he goes off on a bender with his ex-cop buddies. Goes off to some cabin.

Probably just got too pissed to come home and show his face.

Letitia, do you still have anything at Jerry's?

Like old clothes, a hairbrush?

I got like an old cop uniform.

Why? We found some remains.

Might be him.

Lab results came back. They pulled a hair from the hat in Kunzel's uniform.

DNA was a match for the extra body parts found with Tamika's remains.

Okay, so...

We got a dead CI and now a dead cop, both connected to the Miles Gibbs op,

and both found dead in the basement of a building that was owned by a known

Westies associate.

What are we thinking?

Right. Tiffany said Miles accused Samika of talking too much. We know Kunzel

warned her, so maybe she feared she was burned, tried to back out, and the other

cops wouldn't let her. One of them gets violent, and the others, they're all

lying in their pockets. One of them goes down, they all do, so together, they

clean up shop.

Well, when there's a cleanup, we know that one of them...

has a weaker stomach, and in this case, that was Kunzel. Last Letitia heard from

him, he was headed up to a cabin with his cop friends.

Eichmeier's got one up in Roscoe. If these snakes kept this secret for this

long, they'd be willing to do anything to keep it buried. I hope you're right.

Thomas Ahern.

Morning, detectives.

I'm Captain Curry. This is Sergeant Rollins, SVU.

Beautiful property you got here.

And I can't complain.

So, what can I do for you?

We caught a case that might involve some people you helped put away back in the

day. We're hoping maybe you can walk us through some of your old case files.

Which case?

Miles Gibbs.

Well, uh, my memory's shot, Captain. And to be honest, Sergeant, I try not to

think about those days too much. But maybe we can walk you through what we

have. It won't take longer than a minute.

Have a nice day, Detectives.

NVIDIA is going to double by March. I promise you that. Leo Eichmeier.

What are the chances?

I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm Jake Griffin.

My dad was a detective in the 2-9. He talked about you guys all the time

growing up. Griffin, Griffin, you're Jimmy's kid. Yeah, sure am.

By the look of you, you made detective.

Yeah. What do they got you on? Special victims.

Ah, sex police.

You're a bit of a pervert, huh? Yeah.

You know, I just go where they tell me to. Great to meet you. Jimmy Griffin.

Woof. That's a blast from the past.

Yeah.

To be honest, I knew you'd be here.

I got to tell you something.

I won't be more than a minute. No problem.

My dad spoke very highly of you.

He always said that you put your guys first.

Okay, so I...

I wanted to tell you that SVU is looking into the Miles Gibbs undercover op.

Does SVU care about Gibbs? That case was on the colleagues.

I'm just a new guy.

Still trying to figure out why SVU looks into half the cases it looks into.

All I'm saying is there's a particular direction that you want me to turn

everyone's neck.

Jimmy worked days, I worked midnights.

I offered to get him a shift on my crew. I told him the overtime was killer. You

know what Jimmy, the rookie detective, making peanuts said?

What?

He said, I got a little guy at home I got to take care of him.

Good luck with the investigation, Ken.

Hey.

I just got nudged.

Jimmy Griffin's kid.

Oh, yeah? How's he?

Eh, a bit of a putz.

I mean, he's not wrong. Okay, quiet.

I'm wondering about our old friend.

I'm thinking there's a chance he comes over for dinner.

When? Soon.

You still like that place you got upstate?

Yeah. Then let's make sure it's big and span.

He's got to be talking about Ikemeyer's cabin.

I'm going to get rid of the body. Alex, without a warrant.

Hold on a minute. Why don't we all calm down?

Put your hands behind your head.

Now.

Watch them.

Everybody else, fan out.

After you, new guy.

Griff!

I thought I'd have stopped here.

How much further you got?

I think I can make it.

You all right?

Yeah.

You see anything?

Found the rest of Kunzel.

You want to explain to us how half of Jerry Kunzel wound up on your property?

And what were you and Thomas O'Hearn doing with an angle grinder and a couple

of tarps 10 o'clock at night?

You got nothing to say?

You know, my old partner at Bronx SVU used to say there's only two kinds of

perps.

Honest crooks and crooked police.

Well, at least one of them can look themselves in the mirror.

Back in the day, Bronx police used to pull stunts, made the two nine look like

honest apes.

Oh.

they let you within an inch of the DA's office, I have no idea.

But you know what?

You are not as slick as you think you are, man, because we found something.

Oh, yeah. We found the cassette tape that you and your friends doctored, and

it has got cover-up written all over it.

So we're gonna look into every aspect of your life until we find the truth.

I bet you all of Jimmy's buddies told you your daddy was clean as a baby's

soul.

Keep believing that, Ken.

That big house, that cute boat, the condo you just bought your daughter,

we're going to go after all of it.

You tell us what happened to Tamika Davis, Jerry Kunzel, we may try and get

you a lighter sentence.

You want to know how SVU got a hold of that tape?

My teenage son found it, accidentally listened to it, and then Captain Benson

and I had the true pleasure of playing it for Tamika's mother.

Hadn't heard her daughter's voice in 27 years, and now this is the last memory

she's going to have of it.

The sound of Tamika pleading for her life, pleading to be with her son. You

know something?

You want to sit there and say nothing?

Thomas, did you hurt her?

Did you use Tameka for intel?

And then when you realized you couldn't squeeze her anymore, you raped her? No.

You beat her? No, I could never.

Look, look.

We manipulated her to get us all rich, like you said.

Leo was her handler.

And he had this, um, let's call it a fixation for her. Was

he in her apartment that night?

He and I both were.

And yeah, Leo...

Leo got a bit fresh.

Did you see him hurt her?

No. He didn't.

He was just flirting.

You know, he put his hand on her waist.

You didn't feel the need to step in?

Leo told me to get lost.

Told me to meet him at the corner pub.

An hour later, the guy shows up, and he's panicked.

He said that Tamika just flipped out on him, and he had to put her down.

And then he needed our help.

Kunzel and Holiday and me were the only guys he could trust.

So Eichmeier rapes and kills her, and then he calls you all a clean house.

It's not like we had a choice.

How'd she end up in a basement in a building on West 46th?

Leo had a Westie contact.

It's like calling a guy to come pick up your dry cleaning. You ring him up and

no questions asked.

So what happened in Leo's cabin?

Leo was always scared that Gunzel was eventually gonna crack.

So we put the screws to him.

I can still see it to this day.

He had poor Jerry there, swearing on his dead mother's grave he's never gonna

tell a soul, and Leo just... Leo

just reached into his couch cushions, pulled out a gun, and shot the guy mid

-sentence.

But it's been 27 years.

I can't carry this thing no more.

What are we thinking?

Rape and first-degree murder charges for Leo Eichmeier on top of all the

corruption charges?

Hard to believe Leo's capable of all this. I know.

What do you want to do with the Hearn? Look, everything that he said matches up

with the evidence we found.

Let's charge him with conspiracy.

for the cover-up as well as the corruption. We'll plead down on sentence

if he helps us nail Eichmeier.

Chief Tynan, it's nice to see you. I would have given you a call, but since

you're here,

Ahern just flipped on Eichmeier. We're discussing a plea deal.

I see.

Look, nobody likes to force open old wounds, least of all 1PP.

But I'd just like to underscore how much locking up two dirty cops would give the

department the boost it needs.

In light of all the, uh, recent bad press.

And Captain Benson has done such a terrific job investigating.

It was a group effort.

No need to be modest.

We all know how much you love being in the trenches.

Let's offer her in five years.

You want me to call the Brooklyn DA?

Get a special prosecutor assigned?

Ike Meyer does work with us.

Not anymore, he doesn't.

I was weak, plain and simple.

And I'm not trying to get a free ride here, okay? I'm gonna do time for my

corruption charges.

But I never hurt that girl.

And I didn't kill Jerry Kunzel.

Leo Eichmeier did.

Thank you, Mr. Ahern.

Nothing further, Your Honor.

Everyone loves a reformed cop.

Now, Mr. Ahern, please tell the jury how you know a Michael Christopher Lally.

Objection. Relevance?

Overruled.

Answer the question, Mr. Ahern.

Michael was an acquaintance. He was a member of the notorious Irish gang

called the Westies, wasn't he?

That's what I heard. And isn't it also true, Mr. Ahern, that Mr. Lally was your

ex-wife's first cousin?

That's correct.

And isn't it also true that it was you, Mr. Ahern, not the defendant, who called

Mr. Lally to help dispose of the bodies?

Yes, but I did it at Leo's behest. Thank you for answering the question, Mr.

Ahern. What did you do with the drugs that you stole?

We sold them. So all four of you went to the streets and took a...

slinging crack as a sidekick?

We sold them to Michael Lally. Ah, so through your connection to Mr.

Lally, you're the reason everyone got rich.

And you're the reason that Tamika Davis and Jerry Kunzel's remains wound up in

that basement.

Now, you're saying that my client was the one calling the shots, but it sounds

to me like you were the one keeping the machine running.

But any of this, the corruption, the murders, the cleanup...

Could any of this have happened without you?

So that makes the rest of his testimony null and void? Ron's going to pin this

whole thing on to her, and if we're lucky, Ike might have touched minimal

time for the corruption and conspiracy.

And Tamika just gets lost in the shuffle. Well, Miles Gibbs, he's the

first one to hint the cops were involved.

Well, he wouldn't give up details then. What makes you think that he's going to

talk now?

I'll tell him we listened.

Saw the look on your face when you were listening to that recording.

Tamika just wasn't some girl. You cared about her. You loved her.

I also know you applied for parole last year and got denied.

Tell me what you know, and I promise I will show up your parole hearing and

tell the parole board what you did to help Tamika.

Now do some cop dirty. What you think they gonna do to me? This won't reopen

your case.

You've done your time.

You helped put some murderous, raping cop away, and the parole board will look

at you differently.

Leo Eichmeier put me in bracelets, and when he did, you know what that pig said

to me?

That he gave Tamika what she deserved.

That she liked him.

That she died begging for more.

You'll tell that to a jury?

I probably can do better than that.

FBI had ears all up on my business.

My place was bugged, just like Tamika's. I learned that in court.

You're saying this is all on tape.

i don't know what am i supposed to do your job for you go talk to the feds all

right okay there's a lot of ugliness a lot of violence back then to me

she was innocent she was good you know when i met her she was waiting tables i

left her a hundred dollar tip i shouldn't have done that and maybe well

if i hadn't asked her out We wouldn't be here now, would we?

When you're in the game, you don't make it to the top because you can shoot a

gun straight.

You get there because you can look a man in his eye and know what he suffers.

B.S.

Leo Eichmeier did what he said he did on that take.

Mr. Gibbs, can you enlighten the jury on the charges brought against you in 99?

It might be best you do what the D.A. tells me. I don't do law or speak right.

Possession and distribution of controlled substances.

Racketeering.

Obstruction of justice.

And, ah, here's the one.

Lying to federal officers while under oath.

Remember doing that?

I said some things.

I did some things back then.

A lot of things.

But every man's got to have a code.

This is mine.

I never raped or murdered anyone.

All the crimes I did do, I served my time.

And Leo Eichmeier's gotta do his.

Guilty on all counts.

Games are good, but Finn, I gotta tell you, man, it's great to have you back.

Actually, um, that was just a one-off. Finn is not back full-time yet.

What are you talking about? Why?

Still making my way through GTA V.

Hey, well, look, seeing as I just put away one of my own investigators, this

is an opening in my office if you're ever looking to take things down in

that. What? Okay, hold on. What is happening here? Now you're poaching

people from my unit?

What? No, never. Come on.

It's just an idea. Finn is fine. Finn has a job. Okay. Yo, I'm gonna let you

two hash this out. I still got a ton of gold bullion waiting on me to boost.

Well, come on. It's just an idea.

What is the idea?

That Finn needs to take it down a notch? Is that... Is that any of your business,

Greasy? No, it's not, but that's not what I said. He doesn't need to take it

down a notch or slow down.

He needs SVU.

Liv.

Are you talking about Finn?

Or are you talking about you?

Juniors? Hi, Lane.

Jimmy raised you right.

So, what's on your mind, kiddo?

I, um...

I interrogated Leo Eichmeier. Leo Eichmeier is a murderer, a rapist, and

an embarrassment to this department and this city. Keep that at the forefront of

your mind whenever he opened his mouth.

Yeah, well, he said Dad wasn't who I thought he was.

I just got to know what's what for me.

I could find out myself, I guess, but I wanted to ask you first.

I need you to understand something.

Back then, it was a different world.

The perps were different. The rules and standards were different.

Were there things we did back in the day that wouldn't fly down?

Sure. But was Jimmy a good cop?

Absolutely. He was brave.

He was loyal.

Well, Leo Eichmeier valued loyalty, too. He valued loyalty so much, in fact, that

he killed Jerry Kunzel over it. What's the ideal outcome of you and I engaging

in this conversation?

The truth?

To what end? To know.

Who he was.

You know?

And if he was something different, then... You'd stop loving him?

You'd stop being a cop?

No.

I'd suggest figuring out what you want before asking those questions, Jake.

Things going well at SVU?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Smooth sailing.

I might need you to look into something for me down the line.

What's that?

Just some old cases.

Which is evidently right up your alley.

Yeah, okay.

Well, you know, I'm pretty busy over there, so... You'll find the time.

Thank you for the chat, Chief.

You're welcome.