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- As we mentioned Donald Trump today
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called for more and
more military spending.
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More troops, more ships,
more submarines, more planes.
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Didn't say how big the increase
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in military spending would be,
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but he did throw out a lot of numbers
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in justifying the increase.
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- And look at this, almost
600 billion in spending there,
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almost as much as all the other
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nine of the top 10 combined Anderson.
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- The Pentagon has secured
a 630 billion dollar budget
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for next year, even though
it's failed to even account
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for the money it's received since 1996,
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A daunting 6.5 trillion
dollars of taxpayer cash
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have gone to defense programs,
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none of which has been
audited and this black budget
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has sparked concerns over political fraud.
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- The Reuters investigation
says since 1996
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the Pentagon has spent
8.5 trillion dollars
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in taxpayer money that has
never been accounted for.
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- One thing I found very
interesting in this report
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is that the Pentagon apparently uses
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standard operating procedure
to enter false numbers
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or so-called plugs to cover
lost or missing information
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in their accounting in order to submit
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a balanced budget to the treasury.
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So they can write in everything.
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- I mean that's probably the
most shocking part of this
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is that they get to the end of the day
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and they say oh there's
money missing, what do we do?
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Well we'll just put a number in there
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that says it's there and
we'll sort it out later.
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I mean again, this is the
type of operating practice
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that if you did it in your own business,
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if you tried to do it with your
own taxes for the government
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they'd haul you off to jail.
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- [Narrator] What is the Pentagon's
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black budget being used for?
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Weapons, defense?
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This is the story of one
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military family's extraordinary claims.
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Claims that could be found
true in a hidden reality.
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- [Narrator] I'm Phil Schneider.
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I spent 17 years in black budget programs.
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I'm a government geologist,
I was an engineer,
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structural engineer with
aerospace applications.
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Self-taught metallurgist.
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In working with the black projects,
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I was involved in something
very controversial,
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almost totally unbelievable
to most of you,
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but I was involved in
building another base
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inside of Dulce, New Mexico
which is Los Alamos Laboratory.
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In the southwest part
of the Archuleta Mesa.
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We were in the process of the early stages
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of building, we drilled four
large tunnel-like holes.
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Some of them ran 2 1/2
miles under the surface.
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Anyway after we drilled all four holes,
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took about two days to
drill all four of them,
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and when you build an underground base,
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you drill four basic holes and you build
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called stokes or cross member holds across
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and then you use blasting equipment.
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Yeah you literally blast out or tunnel out
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or deflagrate or melt rock out.
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The equipment kept coming up broken.
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So we wanted to send somebody down there,
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a human observer or human
observers in this case
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and find out what was going on.
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When I saw Green Beret
and Black Beret people
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in camp, inside of our geologist camp
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I knew something was up, the gig was up.
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In this process, I was
lowered down the basket
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of one of these holes and about from me
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to this elderly woman here in the front,
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was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray,
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the stench was worse than
the worst garbage can
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you can imagine.
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I didn't waste any time,
I reached for my pistol.
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At that time I was an engineer.
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I didn't have time to carry all the full
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or one of these big submachine guns
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at all the seize and the yellow fruit
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on the outer perimeter and inner perimeter
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security people carried.
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I carried an old Walther PBK
pistol with a nine shot clip.
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Plus you're in almost like
a spacesuit environment
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and you're reaching for a gun,
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it's not the easiest thing to do
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and then to pop a clip in it
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and start shooting.
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And I killed two of them.
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Yes they're mortal and they do die.
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However, in the process,
one of them did this.
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All I remember is that he
just kind of waved his hand
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in front of his chest
and the next thing I know
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this blue beam hit me and just
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literally opened me up like a fish.
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It was some form of electrical force
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because kind of like being
hit by lightning bolt,
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burned all my toenails off of me
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and there was a Green Beret
that was right behind me,
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but he risked his life, he
shoved me back in the basket
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and hit the button and took me up.
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And I wouldn't be alive
talking to you today
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if it wasn't for him,
so I'm forever indebted.
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He lost his life.
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66 secret service agents,
Green Berets, Black Berets,
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crack troops lost their
lives because the government,
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our United States government lied,
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did not tell us anything
about the alien threat.
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There's a war underneath there
and I'm talking dead serious.
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(ominous music)
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The large alien grays
had been in camp there
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for as best as believed possible
about four or 500 years.
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It had been one of their internal bases,
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and we drilled holes right on top of it.
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All the stink and air,
all the black, sooty air
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came right out as soon as
the first hole was sunk
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and all this soot came up and well,
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that's when all the
hell broke loose really.
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How it started.
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I have a picture of one of the aliens
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been working for the
United States Pentagon
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for the last 58 years.
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His name is Val, Val Valiant Thor.
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He's right here.
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There's my father in the background.
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This whole place, the ready
room of the USS Eldridge,
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Al Bilika has probably explained
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or maybe even shown you this picture
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and it's a list of the, some
of the notable people in it
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and they're all the atomic
bomb scientists of the day.
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All the time variant
experimentalists of the day,
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all the top physicists
of that particular day.
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This was in August of 1943.
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- [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave
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most of his lectures in 1995.
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He gained a following speaking
around the United States,
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telling people about
his alleged experiences.
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Phil claimed that he
personally knew people
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who also worked in black budget programs
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who were murdered, and that most of them
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were made to look like a suicide.
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- 11 of my best friends in the
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last 22 years have been murdered.
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Eight of them called suicides.
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I finally got wind of one of them.
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Portland Police is now
involved in one of them.
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Murder by suicide they call it.
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- [Narrator] On August 6, 1993
two years before his lectures
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one of Phil's best friends, Ron Rummel
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was found dead in St.
Macleay Park in Oregon.
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He had suffered a fatal
gunshot wound to the head
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and a gun was found nearby.
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Police ruled it as suicide,
but Phil and many others
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strongly believed that he was murdered.
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Ron Rummel was best known for
publishing The Alien Digest,
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a newsletter filled with
stories and testimonies
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regarding the UFO coverup.
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- Author Ron Rummel was
about to publish a book
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revealing what he believed
to be the real purpose
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of the Star Wars project
when his body was found
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here in Macleay Park in Portland, Oregon.
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His death was ruled suicide,
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but few agree with that verdict.
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- As far as the police and the FBI
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are concerned it's case closed.
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Unfortunately there's the shocking thing
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that his murderer, I believe his murderer
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is still out there at large.
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- Why is it you're speaking out?
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- There have been enough lives taken
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under the premise of
suicide when they were
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actually very stable individuals,
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always had, they had families
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and they had lives to look forward to
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and they had every reason to live
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and if there is some form
of conspiracy out there
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then the more people that are talking,
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might end up saving lives in the long run.
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My friend Ronald Lee Rummel
was an Air Force officer,
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he was a silver star winner.
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There's a good chance that
when I fly back to Reno,
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excuse me, to Vegas I have to drive home.
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I left my car down in Vegas.
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I have to drive home alone.
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I'm scared to hell.
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- [Narrator] On January 17, 1996
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after not being seen
for at least five days,
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Phil Schneider was found
dead in his apartment
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by his landlord and a detective
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from the Clackamas
County Sheriff's Office.
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The autopsy report listed the
cause of death as unknown,
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but it was later discovered that Phil
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was actually strangled
by his own catheter hose.
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Was this a case of
negligence, or a coverup?
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- I, there's a number
of you ladies present
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so I won't gore you out
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but Al has seen some of the wounds
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and there's a few other people
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that have been to a few
of my other lectures
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and they can attest that I have been shot.
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I've been run off the road.
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I've been pushed off the road.
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- [Narrator] This is an
account of Phil's death,
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a case that reeks of
suspicion, neglect of duty,
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and disregard for human dignity.
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The first official police report
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defines Phil's cause of death
to be from natural causes.
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On January 16, 1996, deputy
officer McLeland is alerted
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by a suspicious apartment manager
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that he has not seen Phil for weeks.
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Upon first investigation when
entering Phil's apartment,
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officer McLeland finds
Phil's body beside his bed,
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with his face lying in the
seat of his own wheelchair.
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Medical and forensic examiner Mr. Coleman
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chooses not to respond to the crime scene.
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At this point, Phil had been
dead for three to four days.
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January 17, his body is then
whisked away to a funeral home.
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January 18, Mr. Took calls
from the funeral home
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to alert the police that he
has found a catheter cord
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wrapped around Phil's neck.
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This leads to the starting
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of detective Haggin's
investigation on the same day.
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Haggen seems to be the only one interested
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in following up this case honestly.
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He calls medical examiner Coleman
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and segeant Joyce who
both elect not to respond.
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Upon further investigation,
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while interrogating deputy McLeland,
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the deputy recalls the catheter cord
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being near Phil's neck at
the scene of the crime.
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It is concluded in this report
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that the only person who could have
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been around Phil at this time was a woman
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from the Oregon Senior
and Disabled Services.
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Other things recovered from
the scene of the investigation
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were seven pill medications.
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Detectives Harris and Kennell
are then assigned to the case.
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An autopsy is to be held by
Dr. Gunson on January 19.
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This was requested as well
by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.
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The autopsy report surmises Phil's
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cause of death by
asphyxiation ruled a suicide.
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Recovered stomach material
showed no signs of pills.
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Furthermore, blood and urine are placed
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on a three month hold,
only to be reported as lost
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when Cynthia calls after
the given time has passed.
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The catheter cord is described
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as being wrapped around the neck once
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and then tied from the front, very tight.
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Now, you must ask yourself how can Phil
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be found dead via strangulation
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with his face in the seat
of his own wheelchair?
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Is this something that he could do himself
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without taking any form
of medical assistance
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in order to sedate?
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What do we have here?
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Is this a clean cut case of suicide?
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Or could there likely be foul play?
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Could this be a case of murder by suicide?
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This case was determined on
January 19 as death by suicide
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which is further indicated
on his death certificate.
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But something of even more
suspicion appears in this case.
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In the Oregonian obituaries,
a statement is given
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not by Cynthia, that
he died from a stroke.
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- [Man] So what happened here?
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- Trying to get some
samples of Phil, my dad
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and my mom.
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They were suddenly missing,
mysteriously missing.
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- [Lee] And did, what did they say?
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They were just as surprised as you were?
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- [Marie] Yeah, oh we
don't have those samples.
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- [Lee] It's like they
never did or they just
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or just didn't even know.
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- They said we'll hold them for a year.
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Mom came back, 11 months
before the due date, you know.
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Or you know there's one month until the,
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they would not hold them anymore.
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And they suddenly didn't have 'em anymore.
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Yeah.
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- Let's get right down to it.
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When you're dealing with
something of the magnitude
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what it appears to be,
that is the presence of
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a variety of non-humans here on Earth
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that are here for some sort of agenda
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and everything else that
goes along with that
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including possible collaboration
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by various human groups but then
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this is obviously incredibly
explosive material
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and so it goes without saying
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that the intelligence agencies,
the deep black agencies,
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black ops groups that are involved in this
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would need to keep this
as quiet as possible.
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They would have to, for
their own preservation.
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So in other words secret becomes
the ultimate goal for this
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and that means secrecy in
theory forever, forever.
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Secrecy forever.
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If there are leaks that are
going to come out about this,
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you have to find a way
to disable those leaks.
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Either by disabling the information
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or the individual behind it.
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Doesn't have to be by killing them.
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It could be by ruining their reputation,
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by discrediting them
in one way or another.
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That's just as good.
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Certainly one thing that we
know in the last 60, 70 years
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is that assassination techniques
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have become very, very sophisticated.
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Very sophisticated.
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The art of suiciding someone,
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that is killing them
making it be a suicide.
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This is widespread.
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It's been widespread for many years.
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During the days of the Cold War
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the KGB was very good at this.
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To this day, you're not gonna
get the CIA to admit it,
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but we know that this happened.
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It happened in the case of a fellow named
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Frank Olson in 19, the early 1950s.
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He was a biological warfare expert
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who was given LSD without his knowledge
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by a CIA friend.
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Long story short, he was
taken to a large hotel
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in New York City, the tenth floor
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and was thrown out the window.
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Made it seem like a
suicide, it was no suicide.
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Olson was killed.
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Because he'd become a security risk.
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This is a game.
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So back to our scenario here
of multiple non-human groups
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with possible human alien
interaction going on,
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this is a secret that has to be kept
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from their point of view.
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And anyone who threatens that
secrecy has got to be handled
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whether by discrediting that person
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or failing all else, by killing them.
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- [Narrator] Upon
examination, it seems easy
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to accept the theory that
Phil was a victim of homicide
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but what does that mean for his claims
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of aliens living underground?
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Years after Schneider's death,
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other claims of a joint human alien base
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underneath Dulce, New Mexico
are surfacing left and right.
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The book UFO Highway by Anthony Sanchez
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is essentially transcripts of interviews
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with a person only known as colonel X
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who supposedly worked inside this facility
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and is known to believe that
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Phil Schneider was really there.
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Shows like History Channel's UFO Hunters
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have even visited the
area looking for clues.
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- It's a 14 mile underground tunnel
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that goes under that mountain there.
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- [Man] Yes.
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- [Narrator] Even Jesse
Ventura's Conspiracy Theory
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on TruTV paid a visit to the
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alleged location of the Dulce base.
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- Do they?
- Yeah.
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- [Narrator] Some other
pretty credible sources
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for alien activity in the Archuleta Mesa
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include the high number
of Apache Native Americans
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who have some pretty insane stories
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of strange happenings in the area.
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- Rumor has it there is a secret base
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hidden underneath the Archuleta Mesa here.
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The mountain overlooks Dulce.
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Some people in town say
the base is run by aliens
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working with our federal government
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to conduct mind control
and genetic experiments.
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Do you believe that?
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- Yeah.
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A whole bunch of people seen it, you know.
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- The ground opened up,
steam coming out of it.
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- [Narrator] Geri Julian
says she had her first
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extraterrestrial encounter right here,
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on her Dulce ranch about 40 years ago.
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- It was huge.
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I just saw the bottom of it,
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you know it was like flat like this.
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- [Narrator] Many of her neighbors
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claim similar, strange sightings.
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- Fat in the middle and kind
of like rounded on the sides.
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You're speechless you know?
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You just don't know what to think.
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- [Narrator] Sometime in the
seventies, things changed.
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That's when cows started
turning up mutilated.
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- They just cut out in
between the legs right here.
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We seen one.
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- I know it's not a
predator that's doing it.
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There's, someone's doing it.
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- [Narrator] Local police
never definitively said
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who's to blame.
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Locals say it has to be
something out of this world.
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They say they know it sounds crazy.
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- I'll submit to a lie detector
test or anything you know?
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- [Narrator] To be fair, at
this point we have to also
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play devil's advocate with
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Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims.
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It is entirely possible that he simply
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heard about the tales of
UFOs and underground bases
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in the Archuleta Mesa area and made up
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his own story based on those stories.
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In order to at least make an attempt
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at finding out if he was
telling the truth or not,
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we must first know who Phil Schneider was.
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- I kind of knew about Phil.
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Lee and I had met him through the
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Oregon Agate and Mineral
Society in Portland, Oregon
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and I had been a past
president of the society.
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Had about 500 members.
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So you know it was a large group of people
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who came together every other week
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to study rocks and minerals.
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- [Narrator] What year was this?
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- [Cynthia] 1985.
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Philip grew up in a
navy, armed forces family
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'cause he was all over
places with his dad.
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So let's see, while he was young
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I think they also went to London.
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It was in the early fifties, 1950s.
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So he was in London and I think
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that's when Oscar was working in NATO.
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He was doing a lot of
armed force work in NATO,
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but he kind of knew that his dad
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was doing a lot of top secret
things later on in life.
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- I'd like to also mention
something about my father.
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My father was a U-boat
captain in Hitler's navy.
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He was captured by the French,
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turned over to the third
army, the US third army
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and then US third army
turned him over to the navy
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and he was a master machinist.
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Now that's not a
journeyman, a master means
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they can take a block
of metal and make a gun
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or a watch or some other fine instrument.
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He was a master machinist,
he later became an MD doctor
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in part of the aerospace medicine group
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of the United States Navy.
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Was instrumental in helping
build the USS Nautilus
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and its predecessor the Enterprise,
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first nuclear powered aircraft carrier
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and other ships like it.
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- [Narrator] Phil's father,
Oscar Otto Schneider
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was also involved in government
secrecy and black projects.
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In the 1990s, during Phil
Schneider's lecture tour
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across the United States, he was known
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to carry many documents and pictures
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providing evidence to certain testimony
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about controversial subjects
he would be discussing.
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Furthermore there were four documents
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which Phil carried with
him on lecture tour.
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These documents were allegedly
owned by Oscar Schneider
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while he was in office working
for the United States Navy
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in the 1950s.
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During this time, the rumored
Philadelphia Experiment
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took place and perhaps these
documents are the smoking gun
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that prove in fact the
Philadelphia Experiment did occur.
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The first document
details an autopsy report
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on one of the crew members
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from the Philadelphia Experiment.
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- [Woman] One of the letters that Oscar
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wrote about the autopsy
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of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew member,
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Items that he was pulling
out of the back of their eyes
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and their arms and their legs
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these little things that
looked like transistors.
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That's exactly what they were.
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They were little surveillance items
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that were placed into the bodies
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of the Philadelphia
Experiment crew members.
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- [Narrator] In this
letter, it is addressed
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to lieutenant Nathan F. Twining.
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Oscar seems to report on the vessel
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which Twining's staff couldn't find.
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Furthermore, it includes an
order from J. Edgar Hoover
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to have all personnel undergo
psychological testing.
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The third letter addresses Edward Condon.
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Edward Condon is well
known for his involvement
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explaining away all UFO phenomenon
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as simply optical illusions.
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However in this letter, Oscar seems to be
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reporting to Edward that seven
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Philadelphia Project experiencers
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had escaped from a psych ward that Oscar
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was holding and testing them at.
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He goes on to say that J. Edgar
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had declared the incident classified as a
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1A prime directive, possibly meaning
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something in regards to a top
secret security clearance,
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finishing this letter with a reference
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to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer.
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This is significant because Nikola Tesla
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has always been known to be involved
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with the design of the
machine which would create
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the fabled Philadelphia
Experiment's invisible technology.
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Condon, having been known most notoriously
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as the leading UFO debunker of his time
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paved the way for secrecy and coverups
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in this realm that we study today.
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The fourth and final letter
Oscar Schneider writes again.
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In consideration of the latent facts
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considering the fate of
the USS Farenseth DE-173,
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all ships, personnel, and material
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must be quarantined absolute
until further notice.
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No exceptions.
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An on site naval inspection
is ordered forthwith
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as bureau of ships reticent requirements
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in section 93A.
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Please include DE-173's ship's log
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to admiral Roscoe Hillenkoult, USN.
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Consider them and all events
of nature above secret.
511
00:23:47,055 --> 00:23:49,805
See class ARH-9 project Blue Sky.
512
00:23:51,196 --> 00:23:53,799
Oscar Schneider, captain, USN.
513
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:55,618
- [Narrator] At this point it appears that
514
00:23:55,618 --> 00:23:59,399
Phil Schneider's father Oscar
was very likely involved
515
00:23:59,399 --> 00:24:01,180
in classified operations
516
00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:04,258
that involved top secret technologies.
517
00:24:04,258 --> 00:24:06,314
But what about his son Phil?
518
00:24:06,314 --> 00:24:09,116
What do we really know about his work?
519
00:24:09,116 --> 00:24:11,500
- [Woman] I would say late sixties,
520
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,667
he started his work and I
have social security records
521
00:24:16,978 --> 00:24:20,633
under the wrong social security number
522
00:24:20,633 --> 00:24:22,354
and I think this was how the black ops
523
00:24:22,354 --> 00:24:24,035
get away with a lot of things
524
00:24:24,035 --> 00:24:27,458
is they put you under the
wrong social security number
525
00:24:27,458 --> 00:24:31,378
so you can't prove your
work history with them.
526
00:24:31,378 --> 00:24:33,373
But I can prove that under the wrong
527
00:24:33,373 --> 00:24:36,919
social security number he
worked for Morrison-Knudsen
528
00:24:36,919 --> 00:24:40,380
which is a contractor,
a civilian contractor
529
00:24:40,380 --> 00:24:43,996
that works for the army or the navy.
530
00:24:43,996 --> 00:24:46,540
He did some work at Trojan Nuclear
531
00:24:46,540 --> 00:24:49,580
and after that, by the early 1980s
532
00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:52,396
he was applying for SSI.
533
00:24:52,396 --> 00:24:56,679
So I know by the early
1980s his career is done.
534
00:24:56,679 --> 00:25:00,898
He's so injured that he
cannot do any more work
535
00:25:00,898 --> 00:25:03,778
and his memory is like totally lost
536
00:25:03,778 --> 00:25:05,596
as to what he did before.
537
00:25:05,596 --> 00:25:07,580
It wasn't until after we got married
538
00:25:07,580 --> 00:25:09,475
that he got good medical care
539
00:25:09,475 --> 00:25:11,937
and stopped taking the medications
540
00:25:11,937 --> 00:25:14,098
he was taking when I first met him
541
00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:16,916
that he started to
remember all of the things
542
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,333
that are now on the internet.
543
00:25:22,716 --> 00:25:24,383
- Hello Marie.
- Hi.
544
00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:27,525
- Want a Squirt?
545
00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:36,233
- [Woman] Lots of food and soft drinks.
546
00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:37,400
- There ya go.
547
00:25:39,593 --> 00:25:42,270
- [Narrator] So tell me when did Phil
548
00:25:42,270 --> 00:25:45,993
start telling you about
his past and his work?
549
00:25:45,993 --> 00:25:48,968
- [Woman] It was soon after he kept saying
550
00:25:48,968 --> 00:25:53,550
that he had to take Dilantin
to prevent seizures.
551
00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:56,052
But I noticed when he took Dilantin,
552
00:25:56,052 --> 00:25:57,769
he would have a seizure.
553
00:25:57,769 --> 00:25:59,230
It was the other way around.
554
00:25:59,230 --> 00:26:02,153
It was actually killing him
and it was disrupting him
555
00:26:02,153 --> 00:26:05,769
emotionally, physically, so much that he
556
00:26:05,769 --> 00:26:08,951
didn't have much of a memory
of anything in his past.
557
00:26:08,951 --> 00:26:10,004
And then after we were married
558
00:26:10,004 --> 00:26:12,152
he got really good medical care.
559
00:26:12,152 --> 00:26:14,649
It slowly started to come back.
560
00:26:14,649 --> 00:26:17,284
I mean it was like, he
would even say to me
561
00:26:17,284 --> 00:26:19,593
gee I hope you don't think I'm lying
562
00:26:19,593 --> 00:26:21,252
because I'm just remembering this
563
00:26:21,252 --> 00:26:24,793
but wow, you know these
things start coming up
564
00:26:24,793 --> 00:26:28,969
and I just suddenly remember
what's really happened.
565
00:26:28,969 --> 00:26:30,750
But that's really when it started.
566
00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:34,647
When Oscar died, it might have been '94.
567
00:26:34,647 --> 00:26:37,332
Phil went down into his basement,
568
00:26:37,332 --> 00:26:40,233
and found a file cabinet full of stuff
569
00:26:40,233 --> 00:26:42,793
that was just unbelievable.
570
00:26:42,793 --> 00:26:44,772
And he showed me most of that.
571
00:26:44,772 --> 00:26:47,433
I mean I saw the original envelopes
572
00:26:47,433 --> 00:26:51,892
with the original paperwork
that had the drawings on it.
573
00:26:51,892 --> 00:26:53,204
I saw the original photographs
574
00:26:53,204 --> 00:26:56,704
with the stamps on the back from the Navy.
575
00:26:57,609 --> 00:26:59,573
I mean it was all real stuff.
576
00:26:59,573 --> 00:27:01,831
This is not faked.
577
00:27:01,831 --> 00:27:03,454
He shared so much with me,
578
00:27:03,454 --> 00:27:06,070
even though we were divorced at the time.
579
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:09,609
So I saw all this stuff that
came out of the file cabinet,
580
00:27:09,609 --> 00:27:13,455
but he'd been talking
to Ron about it a lot.
581
00:27:13,455 --> 00:27:18,415
They were doing a little alien
magazine, a little digest.
582
00:27:18,415 --> 00:27:19,897
And then his dad died and he found
583
00:27:19,897 --> 00:27:21,700
all this stuff in the basement.
584
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:25,273
Well Ron was murdered that same year,
585
00:27:25,273 --> 00:27:27,956
and that infuriated him.
586
00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,229
As Philip grew up he went to
587
00:27:30,229 --> 00:27:33,396
Lincoln High School here in Portland
588
00:27:33,396 --> 00:27:38,196
'cause I have a transcript
of his senior high school,
589
00:27:38,196 --> 00:27:40,633
so that was pretty normal
except it does indicate
590
00:27:40,633 --> 00:27:44,300
on that transcript that
he had an IQ of 163.
591
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:50,069
So I know Phil told me that
before he had his medical issues
592
00:27:50,069 --> 00:27:53,737
he could speak 11 languages
and I believe that
593
00:27:53,737 --> 00:27:57,335
because he was suddenly
in the middle of the night
594
00:27:57,335 --> 00:27:58,975
sleeping together he would suddenly
595
00:27:58,975 --> 00:28:02,153
start rattling off different languages,
596
00:28:02,153 --> 00:28:05,193
so this is all though in his sleep.
597
00:28:05,193 --> 00:28:07,556
He consciously couldn't remember
598
00:28:07,556 --> 00:28:09,990
how to speak those languages,
599
00:28:09,990 --> 00:28:11,977
but in his sleep unconsciously
600
00:28:11,977 --> 00:28:15,227
he could still connect with some of it.
601
00:28:16,272 --> 00:28:18,356
(woman chuckles)
602
00:28:18,356 --> 00:28:20,773
(TV blaring)
603
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,627
(girl chatters)
604
00:28:41,523 --> 00:28:45,482
- First of all the idea
of underground bases
605
00:28:45,482 --> 00:28:47,902
and underground civilizations,
606
00:28:47,902 --> 00:28:52,137
this is actually this is a
very old idea in human history
607
00:28:52,137 --> 00:28:55,145
you know going back thousands of years
608
00:28:55,145 --> 00:28:58,761
you've got ancient tribes around the world
609
00:28:58,761 --> 00:29:01,102
that have made these claims.
610
00:29:01,102 --> 00:29:03,076
We would say they were myths,
611
00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:06,462
but that there are secret caverns,
612
00:29:06,462 --> 00:29:08,712
secret races, secret tribes
613
00:29:10,178 --> 00:29:13,118
that exist under the ground
614
00:29:13,118 --> 00:29:14,622
and really when one talks about
615
00:29:14,622 --> 00:29:17,059
for example hollow earth theory,
616
00:29:17,059 --> 00:29:19,838
that's a lot of what
they're talking about here.
617
00:29:19,838 --> 00:29:22,099
But not all hollow earth theorists
618
00:29:22,099 --> 00:29:24,459
say that the entire Earth is hollow.
619
00:29:24,459 --> 00:29:27,161
A lot of them will say that
there are just substantial
620
00:29:27,161 --> 00:29:29,661
caverns under the ground where
621
00:29:31,358 --> 00:29:34,579
there are civilizations
that are down there.
622
00:29:34,579 --> 00:29:35,983
So that's an old idea.
623
00:29:35,983 --> 00:29:39,337
You get it in a lot of Asian European
624
00:29:39,337 --> 00:29:41,596
I think like the Germans
have the tradition.
625
00:29:41,596 --> 00:29:43,534
You have Native Americans
have this tradition.
626
00:29:43,534 --> 00:29:46,592
The Tibetans may have the most extensive
627
00:29:46,592 --> 00:29:49,075
tradition of this for all I know.
628
00:29:49,075 --> 00:29:53,082
On South America traditional
tribes had this as well,
629
00:29:53,082 --> 00:29:55,459
so the idea in the Tibetan tradition
630
00:29:55,459 --> 00:29:58,318
from what I have understood about it
631
00:29:58,318 --> 00:30:00,958
is that there are different races
632
00:30:00,958 --> 00:30:03,939
below the surface of the Earth
633
00:30:03,939 --> 00:30:07,635
including reptoid or reptilian races
634
00:30:07,635 --> 00:30:11,219
that are supposedly from other worlds.
635
00:30:11,219 --> 00:30:12,697
I'm not making this up.
636
00:30:12,697 --> 00:30:16,864
So that by itself is interesting
and you might ask why
637
00:30:18,094 --> 00:30:22,835
do all of these disparate
civilizations have these
638
00:30:22,835 --> 00:30:25,214
kinds of ideas, and I don't
have an answer to that.
639
00:30:25,214 --> 00:30:28,755
But I can tell you
that's an old, old idea.
640
00:30:28,755 --> 00:30:30,137
- [Narrator] Dolan goes on to explain
641
00:30:30,137 --> 00:30:33,371
the supposed connection between the Nazis
642
00:30:33,371 --> 00:30:36,613
and Tibetan hollow earth theories.
643
00:30:36,613 --> 00:30:38,654
- What you really get
into the 20th Century
644
00:30:38,654 --> 00:30:41,487
where Nazis and their predecessors
645
00:30:42,651 --> 00:30:44,894
let's just call them the Thule Society
646
00:30:44,894 --> 00:30:48,571
which was a kind of a mystical sect
647
00:30:48,571 --> 00:30:52,057
that the Nazis really drew a lot out of
648
00:30:52,057 --> 00:30:54,557
in forming their own ideology.
649
00:30:55,417 --> 00:30:58,657
The Thule Society was very interested
650
00:30:58,657 --> 00:31:02,259
in Tibetan myths about
openings into the earth.
651
00:31:02,259 --> 00:31:05,426
This idea of deep underground tunnels,
652
00:31:06,819 --> 00:31:09,402
bases, crisscrossing the world.
653
00:31:11,139 --> 00:31:13,972
And since this was a Tibetan idea,
654
00:31:15,961 --> 00:31:19,379
we have to presume that
the Nazis themselves
655
00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:22,431
were familiar with this idea as well.
656
00:31:22,431 --> 00:31:24,014
- [Narrator] There's no
question that the secret
657
00:31:24,014 --> 00:31:28,491
underground bases do exist,
and by the way it's not only
658
00:31:28,491 --> 00:31:30,857
the military of the United States
659
00:31:30,857 --> 00:31:33,155
or other countries you know who are making
660
00:31:33,155 --> 00:31:36,857
these underground and
also undersea facilities.
661
00:31:36,857 --> 00:31:40,014
Other agencies and
organizations do it as well.
662
00:31:40,014 --> 00:31:42,654
All that is needed is the requisite will,
663
00:31:42,654 --> 00:31:46,313
funding, expert personnel, and technology.
664
00:31:46,313 --> 00:31:49,113
In the early to mid 20th Century,
665
00:31:49,113 --> 00:31:51,874
you had the French of
course who constructed
666
00:31:51,874 --> 00:31:54,707
the Maginot Line in eastern France
667
00:31:55,815 --> 00:31:59,592
to guard against German
invasion in World War II.
668
00:31:59,592 --> 00:32:04,153
There was a military civil
engineering organization
669
00:32:04,153 --> 00:32:08,035
in the Third Reich called
the Todt Organization.
670
00:32:08,035 --> 00:32:10,574
And it was named after Fritz Todt.
671
00:32:10,574 --> 00:32:13,653
Fritz Todt was a brilliant civil engineer.
672
00:32:13,653 --> 00:32:17,155
He was the father of the
German Autobahn system.
673
00:32:17,155 --> 00:32:19,097
During the World War II period,
674
00:32:19,097 --> 00:32:22,297
Adolf Hitler asked Fritz Todt to lend his
675
00:32:22,297 --> 00:32:24,275
engineering expertise to the
676
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:28,435
military program of the
Third Reich, which he did.
677
00:32:28,435 --> 00:32:31,497
He established an engineering agency
678
00:32:31,497 --> 00:32:34,195
which was called the Todt Organization.
679
00:32:34,195 --> 00:32:37,945
Now Fritz Todt died in
a plane crash in 1942,
680
00:32:39,832 --> 00:32:43,332
and one of his deputies named Xaver Dorsch
681
00:32:44,233 --> 00:32:46,515
took over control of the agency.
682
00:32:46,515 --> 00:32:50,515
I did find a couple of
project Paperclip memos
683
00:32:50,515 --> 00:32:54,682
from 1947 that specifically
requested Xaver Dorsch by name
684
00:32:55,897 --> 00:32:57,673
to be brought to the United States
685
00:32:57,673 --> 00:33:00,169
to work on the United States military's
686
00:33:00,169 --> 00:33:03,393
underground plant construction program.
687
00:33:03,393 --> 00:33:05,353
The American military certainly
688
00:33:05,353 --> 00:33:08,709
was well aware of who Xaver Dorsch was
689
00:33:08,709 --> 00:33:09,854
and his expertise.
690
00:33:09,854 --> 00:33:12,835
In his day he was probably
the preeminent authority
691
00:33:12,835 --> 00:33:15,776
on underground base construction,
692
00:33:15,776 --> 00:33:19,359
whether in Germany or
in the United States.
693
00:33:20,553 --> 00:33:22,629
- Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina
694
00:33:22,629 --> 00:33:25,113
but they're not from an
ancient civilization.
695
00:33:25,113 --> 00:33:27,734
They're reportedly connected
with the Nazi regime.
696
00:33:27,734 --> 00:33:30,456
According to an article
in the New Zealand Herald
697
00:33:30,456 --> 00:33:32,857
a secret bunker was found which appears
698
00:33:32,857 --> 00:33:35,776
to have been planned for
members of the Nazi party
699
00:33:35,776 --> 00:33:37,795
to use as a hideout after
700
00:33:37,795 --> 00:33:41,256
losing the war and
fleeing to South America.
701
00:33:41,256 --> 00:33:43,833
- [Narrator] I had people
tell me that some of the bases
702
00:33:43,833 --> 00:33:46,916
are as deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down.
703
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:50,014
- [Narrator] Okay so if
they're one mile deep,
704
00:33:50,014 --> 00:33:51,593
how would they make that?
705
00:33:51,593 --> 00:33:54,516
Like can you state possibly
a piece of technology
706
00:33:54,516 --> 00:33:57,278
that you came across say in
707
00:33:57,278 --> 00:33:59,930
documents you were researching or?
708
00:33:59,930 --> 00:34:01,609
- [Narrator] Oh yes, oh yes.
709
00:34:01,609 --> 00:34:05,776
Since at least the 1950s, the
mining and civil engineering
710
00:34:07,354 --> 00:34:09,774
industries have had the capability
711
00:34:09,774 --> 00:34:12,691
to sink major shafts straight down.
712
00:34:13,998 --> 00:34:16,158
One even two miles or more,
713
00:34:16,158 --> 00:34:19,497
and then to tunnel out from
the bottom of these shafts
714
00:34:19,497 --> 00:34:23,664
whether for mining purposes
or for tunnel complexes.
715
00:34:24,558 --> 00:34:27,134
One of the most common forms is to use
716
00:34:27,134 --> 00:34:31,294
a very hard cutting edge on
the tunnel boring machines
717
00:34:31,294 --> 00:34:33,758
that rotate, would be like a huge version
718
00:34:33,758 --> 00:34:36,890
of the drills used in petroleum industry
719
00:34:36,890 --> 00:34:38,771
or natural gas industry to drill
720
00:34:38,771 --> 00:34:41,758
very deep underground burrows.
721
00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:43,294
- [Narrator] I've heard theories
722
00:34:43,294 --> 00:34:46,076
of also nuclear power drills.
723
00:34:46,076 --> 00:34:50,195
- [Narrator] Yes, I cite this
technology in my first book.
724
00:34:50,195 --> 00:34:51,894
These are called subterrains.
725
00:34:51,894 --> 00:34:53,577
Subterrains are nuclear powered.
726
00:34:53,577 --> 00:34:57,294
They use a small fission nuclear reactor.
727
00:34:57,294 --> 00:35:00,675
The nuclear reactor is
contained within the machine.
728
00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:02,896
The research and design was done
729
00:35:02,896 --> 00:35:05,475
at Los Alamos National Laboratories back
730
00:35:05,475 --> 00:35:08,478
during the 20th Century
and there were some patents
731
00:35:08,478 --> 00:35:11,118
granted to the research
team at Los Alamos.
732
00:35:11,118 --> 00:35:13,715
If they are in use, they are being used
733
00:35:13,715 --> 00:35:16,298
clandestinely in great secrecy.
734
00:35:17,737 --> 00:35:22,478
- [Narrator] Could you also
maybe lend to the audience
735
00:35:22,478 --> 00:35:27,054
some examples of real
underground facilities?
736
00:35:27,054 --> 00:35:28,057
- [Narrator] The most famous one
737
00:35:28,057 --> 00:35:30,814
would be under Cheyenne
Mountain in Colorado
738
00:35:30,814 --> 00:35:34,090
which used to be the NORAD headquarters.
739
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:36,174
Now it's a backup dormant base,
740
00:35:36,174 --> 00:35:39,118
but that'd be the most famous one I guess.
741
00:35:39,118 --> 00:35:41,315
It's appeared in many movies.
742
00:35:41,315 --> 00:35:44,731
It is large, it is
sophisticated, it's deep.
743
00:35:44,731 --> 00:35:47,977
Then you also have the
famous FEMA underground base
744
00:35:47,977 --> 00:35:51,235
beneath Mount Weather
in northern Virginia.
745
00:35:51,235 --> 00:35:55,054
It's run by FEMA, the Federal
Emergency Management Agency.
746
00:35:55,054 --> 00:35:57,934
It's also quite deep,
sophisticated, large.
747
00:35:57,934 --> 00:36:02,798
This so-called site R complex
that is the Pentagon's
748
00:36:02,798 --> 00:36:05,795
alternate command center
which is underground
749
00:36:05,795 --> 00:36:09,374
on the border between
Maryland and Pennsylvania.
750
00:36:09,374 --> 00:36:13,395
Then of course you have the
well known Area 51 facility.
751
00:36:13,395 --> 00:36:15,054
There's been quite a lot of
752
00:36:15,054 --> 00:36:17,774
underground excavation done there.
753
00:36:17,774 --> 00:36:21,637
Many people have spoken
about facilities out there.
754
00:36:21,637 --> 00:36:22,640
- Yes sir.
755
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,298
- Let's go back to the so-called area 51
756
00:36:24,298 --> 00:36:27,898
because in people's minds when
you say I can't talk about it
757
00:36:27,898 --> 00:36:29,633
because it's classified, conjures up
758
00:36:29,633 --> 00:36:32,239
oh there it is, there's the coverup.
759
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,280
Can you give us any hint
without violating any sense of
760
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,447
confidential nature what kinds
of things might be happening?
761
00:36:40,536 --> 00:36:41,760
- Sir I cannot, forgive me.
762
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:42,896
I just do not know.
763
00:36:42,896 --> 00:36:45,237
- [Reporter] Is there anyone
in the Air Force that can?
764
00:36:45,237 --> 00:36:47,771
- I'm gonna have to defer
that to public affairs.
765
00:36:47,771 --> 00:36:50,174
It's outside of my area of expertise.
766
00:36:50,174 --> 00:36:51,578
- [Reporter] Do you believe in UFOs?
767
00:36:51,578 --> 00:36:53,828
- Firstly no sir.
- Why not?
768
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,920
- Ma'am I have no reason to
believe that they're real.
769
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:00,944
- [Narrator] And then there are other ones
770
00:37:00,944 --> 00:37:03,381
that are perhaps less well known.
771
00:37:03,381 --> 00:37:07,995
The NSA in Laurel, Maryland
which is at Fort Meade.
772
00:37:07,995 --> 00:37:10,362
Now Fort Meade is an armed facility
773
00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:13,938
but the NSA is actually
the major activity there
774
00:37:13,938 --> 00:37:17,000
and there are just literal acres,
775
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,480
multiple acres of supercomputers
beneath Fort Meade
776
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,424
that go down and down and down.
777
00:37:23,424 --> 00:37:25,664
I have been told 20 levels, maybe more
778
00:37:25,664 --> 00:37:29,584
and then Los Alamos National
Lab in northern New Mexico.
779
00:37:29,584 --> 00:37:32,600
Then you have Camp David in Maryland.
780
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,341
Many people are familiar
with Camp David as
781
00:37:35,341 --> 00:37:37,902
a United States presidential retreat
782
00:37:37,902 --> 00:37:40,480
where presidents often helicopter to
783
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,960
for rest and relaxation,
but less commonly known
784
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,781
is there is a massive underground facility
785
00:37:47,781 --> 00:37:50,000
that spreads out for miles.
786
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,958
In the route to the
first war against Iraq,
787
00:37:52,958 --> 00:37:55,722
Bechtel built three deeply buried
788
00:37:55,722 --> 00:37:59,701
sophisticated underground
facilities in Saudi Arabia.
789
00:37:59,701 --> 00:38:03,280
They were used during
the war, the first war.
790
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,562
Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf who was
791
00:38:05,562 --> 00:38:07,744
the American military commander
792
00:38:07,744 --> 00:38:11,677
spent most of that war
underground in Saudi Arabia.
793
00:38:11,677 --> 00:38:13,541
And the Chinese, it has come to light
794
00:38:13,541 --> 00:38:15,722
that the Chinese have
constructed something like
795
00:38:15,722 --> 00:38:18,901
3,000 miles of underground tunnels
796
00:38:18,901 --> 00:38:21,541
to house their nuclear arsenal.
797
00:38:21,541 --> 00:38:22,981
- [Narrator] What is, what's the benefit
798
00:38:22,981 --> 00:38:24,837
of building all of these bases
799
00:38:24,837 --> 00:38:26,741
in and around the world?
800
00:38:26,741 --> 00:38:27,861
What is it for?
801
00:38:27,861 --> 00:38:31,100
Is it for keeping things secret,
802
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:33,538
and what are they keeping secret?
803
00:38:33,538 --> 00:38:36,261
Is it for keeping things
away from the public?
804
00:38:36,261 --> 00:38:38,624
Is it also for protection in some way?
805
00:38:38,624 --> 00:38:40,021
Could you elaborate on that?
806
00:38:40,021 --> 00:38:41,701
- [Narrator] Yes to all of that.
807
00:38:41,701 --> 00:38:43,642
All of those are considerations.
808
00:38:43,642 --> 00:38:45,916
The motivation for going deep underground
809
00:38:45,916 --> 00:38:49,322
and or deep undersea is often driven by
810
00:38:49,322 --> 00:38:52,072
concerns of security and secrecy.
811
00:38:52,957 --> 00:38:56,421
Weapons production and
storage happens underground
812
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:58,487
whether for nuclear
weapons or other kinds.
813
00:38:58,487 --> 00:39:02,654
This has been going on ever
since the World War II period.
814
00:39:05,162 --> 00:39:05,995
- [Reporter] It looks almost like
815
00:39:05,995 --> 00:39:07,737
a scene from an action movie.
816
00:39:07,737 --> 00:39:09,964
Dozens of ballistic
missile launching systems
817
00:39:09,964 --> 00:39:12,663
inside a gigantic cave.
818
00:39:12,663 --> 00:39:15,164
But the video shows Iran's missile program
819
00:39:15,164 --> 00:39:18,140
is very real and very big,
820
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:20,423
as the head of the elite
revolutionary guards
821
00:39:20,423 --> 00:39:22,604
aerospace division says.
822
00:39:22,604 --> 00:39:25,260
The missiles in various ranges are mounted
823
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:28,604
on launchers in all bases
and are ready to be launched
824
00:39:28,604 --> 00:39:31,388
he told an Iranian state
TV reporter and added
825
00:39:31,388 --> 00:39:34,860
that is if enemies make a mistake.
826
00:39:34,860 --> 00:39:35,863
- [Narrator] You also have
827
00:39:35,863 --> 00:39:38,538
scientific research
facilities underground.
828
00:39:38,538 --> 00:39:40,881
The CERN supercollider on the border
829
00:39:40,881 --> 00:39:43,703
of Switzerland and France
would be a good example.
830
00:39:43,703 --> 00:39:47,058
That one is very publicly
known and discussed.
831
00:39:47,058 --> 00:39:49,736
There are other underground
research facilities
832
00:39:49,736 --> 00:39:52,364
including like Area 51 and elsewhere
833
00:39:52,364 --> 00:39:56,114
that operate much more
out of the public eye.
834
00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,564
There are many rumors about clandestine
835
00:39:59,564 --> 00:40:03,927
extraterrestrial facilities
both underground and undersea,
836
00:40:03,927 --> 00:40:05,980
and a growing number of people
837
00:40:05,980 --> 00:40:07,863
have come forward over the years
838
00:40:07,863 --> 00:40:11,381
with ample accounts of having seen
839
00:40:11,381 --> 00:40:14,439
and or been taken into such facilities
840
00:40:14,439 --> 00:40:16,124
by a variety of reasons.
841
00:40:16,124 --> 00:40:18,479
Both by extraterrestrials and also
842
00:40:18,479 --> 00:40:21,980
by shadowy elements of the
United States military,
843
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:23,361
by clandestine units.
844
00:40:23,361 --> 00:40:26,081
I do take these stories seriously.
845
00:40:26,081 --> 00:40:30,237
I do believe that these
types of facilities exist.
846
00:40:30,237 --> 00:40:32,380
One of the big reasons
that they would be here
847
00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:36,161
and underground again,
for secrecy, for security,
848
00:40:36,161 --> 00:40:40,721
and for purposes of communication,
command, and control.
849
00:40:40,721 --> 00:40:42,961
The same reasons that the
United States military
850
00:40:42,961 --> 00:40:45,118
builds underground bases.
851
00:40:45,118 --> 00:40:46,684
- [Narrator] Secrecy, how corporations
852
00:40:46,684 --> 00:40:49,802
and military rule the underworld.
853
00:40:49,802 --> 00:40:51,815
- [Narrator] I've spent
years going through heaps
854
00:40:51,815 --> 00:40:53,724
of technical documentation
855
00:40:53,724 --> 00:40:55,500
in the military industrial complex
856
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:57,660
and Morrison-Knudsen is one of those
857
00:40:57,660 --> 00:41:00,940
that would pop up in the bibliographies.
858
00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:04,098
Companies like Parsons
Brinckerhoff, William Douglas,
859
00:41:04,098 --> 00:41:06,321
Kiewit, Black and Veatch.
860
00:41:06,321 --> 00:41:08,700
Of course you have the
two military agencies,
861
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,599
the Army Corps of Engineers
which is definitely involved
862
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:15,199
in constructing underground
bases and tunnels.
863
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:17,841
It has been for more than half a century.
864
00:41:17,841 --> 00:41:21,703
You also have the US Navy
Seabees who also work
865
00:41:21,703 --> 00:41:25,521
in underground and undersea construction.
866
00:41:25,521 --> 00:41:29,340
Those would be two of the
lead military agencies,
867
00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:32,364
but there are large
corporations that are involved.
868
00:41:32,364 --> 00:41:34,684
The Bechtel Corporation is one.
869
00:41:34,684 --> 00:41:37,939
Then you have the tunnel
boring machine companies
870
00:41:37,939 --> 00:41:39,580
such as the Robbins Company.
871
00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:42,233
A number of these
companies which for decades
872
00:41:42,233 --> 00:41:45,137
have worked very closely with
873
00:41:45,137 --> 00:41:48,038
not only the United
States military agencies,
874
00:41:48,038 --> 00:41:49,756
but also other agencies in
875
00:41:49,756 --> 00:41:53,539
construction of underground
facilities and tunnels.
876
00:41:53,539 --> 00:41:56,036
These are massive undertakings,
877
00:41:56,036 --> 00:41:59,479
and to do that you need to
have large organizations
878
00:41:59,479 --> 00:42:02,235
with the bureaucratic
administrative structure
879
00:42:02,235 --> 00:42:06,235
that's capable of supporting
projects like this.
880
00:42:06,235 --> 00:42:09,260
You won't easily find this
stuff on the internet.
881
00:42:09,260 --> 00:42:10,977
I found these documents by going to
882
00:42:10,977 --> 00:42:13,619
federal document repositories
883
00:42:13,619 --> 00:42:17,996
at major university libraries
in the United States
884
00:42:17,996 --> 00:42:21,217
and also federal agency
document repositories.
885
00:42:21,217 --> 00:42:24,540
With these corporations
it's like a shell game,
886
00:42:24,540 --> 00:42:26,977
and it's harder and harder to find out
887
00:42:26,977 --> 00:42:31,079
who is working for whom
and what they're doing
888
00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:34,017
and under what conditions.
889
00:42:34,017 --> 00:42:37,297
The so-called
Morrison-Knudsen is now owned
890
00:42:37,297 --> 00:42:40,214
by something called URS as of 2007.
891
00:42:42,156 --> 00:42:45,697
So you see, it makes it hard
to follow what they're doing
892
00:42:45,697 --> 00:42:49,836
and to follow the money and the contracts
893
00:42:49,836 --> 00:42:52,817
because the names in
the corporate alliances
894
00:42:52,817 --> 00:42:54,156
are constantly changing
895
00:42:54,156 --> 00:42:57,180
in a state of flux at a very high level.
896
00:42:57,180 --> 00:43:00,860
- Now these mega bases are gobbling up
897
00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:02,394
our gross national product.
898
00:43:02,394 --> 00:43:05,079
Right now we're spending 28%
of the gross national product
899
00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:08,162
on building underground bases solely.
900
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:12,337
That doesn't count for the defense budget.
901
00:43:12,337 --> 00:43:15,570
That doesn't count for
the spare parts budget.
902
00:43:15,570 --> 00:43:19,356
And the black budget is dead, dead wrong.
903
00:43:19,356 --> 00:43:22,146
It sidesteps the United States Congress
904
00:43:22,146 --> 00:43:24,632
and its Constitution of its people,
905
00:43:24,632 --> 00:43:28,700
and says you're a bunch of
morons, you don't need to know.
906
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:31,276
Now, all this alien thing is fine
907
00:43:31,276 --> 00:43:33,738
except for one thing.
908
00:43:33,738 --> 00:43:36,655
Alien takeover is a serious threat.
909
00:43:38,812 --> 00:43:40,813
Kept totally out of the public view,
910
00:43:40,813 --> 00:43:44,730
off the surface, I'm sure
the underground bases
911
00:43:46,068 --> 00:43:47,401
without question
912
00:43:49,028 --> 00:43:53,825
are being used as forum, a
place to house alien takeover.
913
00:43:53,825 --> 00:43:55,803
Alien takeover means the implementation
914
00:43:55,803 --> 00:43:58,468
of a one-world government.
915
00:43:58,468 --> 00:44:02,270
Direct opposite of constitutional law.
916
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:05,390
Direct opposite of freedom of choice.
917
00:44:05,390 --> 00:44:07,748
Freedom of religion.
918
00:44:07,748 --> 00:44:10,331
Other freedoms that go with it.
919
00:44:11,828 --> 00:44:14,131
Right to bear arms.
920
00:44:14,131 --> 00:44:17,572
If we allow another election to go by
921
00:44:17,572 --> 00:44:20,430
with the same ilk in the White House,
922
00:44:20,430 --> 00:44:23,097
we have only ourselves to blame.
923
00:44:26,964 --> 00:44:28,767
- One of the questions that arises is
924
00:44:28,767 --> 00:44:31,423
whether or not there is a legendary
925
00:44:31,423 --> 00:44:36,108
much talked about deal between
human government groups
926
00:44:36,108 --> 00:44:38,889
and non-humans, a human-alien deal.
927
00:44:38,889 --> 00:44:40,388
You know all I can say at this point
928
00:44:40,388 --> 00:44:42,708
is that anything's possible.
929
00:44:42,708 --> 00:44:44,030
I do believe that there are
930
00:44:44,030 --> 00:44:46,292
a number of other beings that are here,
931
00:44:46,292 --> 00:44:48,528
so if that is possible is it then possible
932
00:44:48,528 --> 00:44:50,265
that such a deal went wrong?
933
00:44:50,265 --> 00:44:52,590
For example what would
the deal have included?
934
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:55,108
It could have included we humans
935
00:44:55,108 --> 00:44:59,206
getting certain technologies
and knowledge from them,
936
00:44:59,206 --> 00:45:03,012
in exchange for them having the ability
937
00:45:03,012 --> 00:45:04,830
to do certain things in our society
938
00:45:04,830 --> 00:45:07,300
without us giving them a hassle for.
939
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:11,289
For them having a permanent
base somewhere maybe in Nevada.
940
00:45:11,289 --> 00:45:14,226
Or for them every now and
then taking a human being
941
00:45:14,226 --> 00:45:16,889
to examine them, but then returning them.
942
00:45:16,889 --> 00:45:20,068
This is the claim of the human-alien deal.
943
00:45:20,068 --> 00:45:23,889
And the claim furthermore
is that we learned,
944
00:45:23,889 --> 00:45:25,401
during the seventies and eighties
945
00:45:25,401 --> 00:45:29,588
that they were not abiding
by their agreement.
946
00:45:29,588 --> 00:45:32,726
That they were taking
humans, not telling us,
947
00:45:32,726 --> 00:45:35,188
not telling the human
government and so forth.
948
00:45:35,188 --> 00:45:38,866
None of this I have any
idea if this is true or not.
949
00:45:38,866 --> 00:45:39,870
I have no idea.
950
00:45:39,870 --> 00:45:41,870
What I would say is that
951
00:45:42,729 --> 00:45:46,896
it would very much be in the
interest of a visiting race
952
00:45:48,468 --> 00:45:51,812
to make a deal with the
US government, why not?
953
00:45:51,812 --> 00:45:54,051
Sure they might be able to wipe us out
954
00:45:54,051 --> 00:45:55,730
if they felt like it, but maybe that's
955
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:57,470
too much of a hassle for them.
956
00:45:57,470 --> 00:45:58,747
Maybe it's just somewhat easier
957
00:45:58,747 --> 00:46:02,110
to deal with the local governing power.
958
00:46:02,110 --> 00:46:05,148
So it would make sense
to make an arrangement
959
00:46:05,148 --> 00:46:08,868
with the local strong arms, strongman
960
00:46:08,868 --> 00:46:11,209
which would be the US
military and the US government
961
00:46:11,209 --> 00:46:15,268
and if you really want to get
subterranean here so to speak,
962
00:46:15,268 --> 00:46:16,750
there would be a lot of benefit
963
00:46:16,750 --> 00:46:19,812
from a visiting race of extraterrestrials
964
00:46:19,812 --> 00:46:22,895
to exploit Earth and that to the max.
965
00:46:24,532 --> 00:46:26,030
You know a lot of folks in this field
966
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:28,247
believe that any visiting ET race
967
00:46:28,247 --> 00:46:32,430
would by their nature be
peaceful and nonviolent.
968
00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:34,169
I never agreed with this.
969
00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:36,809
I don't understand why just because
970
00:46:36,809 --> 00:46:39,668
you have better technology
then that means you're nicer.
971
00:46:39,668 --> 00:46:41,268
You can be just as exploitative.
972
00:46:41,268 --> 00:46:42,427
Look at human history.
973
00:46:42,427 --> 00:46:45,028
We've got great technology these days.
974
00:46:45,028 --> 00:46:47,105
It doesn't mean we're any
less exploitative of people
975
00:46:47,105 --> 00:46:48,692
than we were 5,000 years ago.
976
00:46:48,692 --> 00:46:52,270
Well look if you come from
some place that's not here,
977
00:46:52,270 --> 00:46:54,706
really makes sense doesn't it to create
978
00:46:54,706 --> 00:46:57,929
a secure environment for yourself
979
00:46:57,929 --> 00:46:59,825
probably under the ground.
980
00:46:59,825 --> 00:47:01,689
It's the best place to be.
981
00:47:01,689 --> 00:47:03,668
All the features of planet Earth
982
00:47:03,668 --> 00:47:06,089
are suitable for human beings.
983
00:47:06,089 --> 00:47:09,449
They may not be as suitable
for some other type of species
984
00:47:09,449 --> 00:47:11,012
that didn't come from here.
985
00:47:11,012 --> 00:47:14,772
When I go through the
various witness reports,
986
00:47:14,772 --> 00:47:17,609
alleged reports of encounters
that people have had
987
00:47:17,609 --> 00:47:22,169
with these other entities,
that also reinforces my opinion
988
00:47:22,169 --> 00:47:24,349
that we're dealing with multiple groups.
989
00:47:24,349 --> 00:47:27,609
So at this point in the
game, my working assumption
990
00:47:27,609 --> 00:47:31,108
is that humanity right now is interacting
991
00:47:31,108 --> 00:47:33,950
really on a covert basis with multiple
992
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:38,117
highly intelligent non-human
groups that are here,
993
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:41,445
and they're here for purposes
994
00:47:41,445 --> 00:47:44,430
that might very well be quite varied.
995
00:47:44,430 --> 00:47:47,332
It's not necessarily the case
that they all have one agenda.
996
00:47:47,332 --> 00:47:51,390
Now some of these groups,
or some of these entities
997
00:47:51,390 --> 00:47:54,607
according to again witness accounts
998
00:47:54,607 --> 00:47:57,274
are like the prototypical grays,
999
00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:02,889
that is the short humanoid
large black eyes, big head.
1000
00:48:02,889 --> 00:48:06,806
Another type of non-human
that's been discussed
1001
00:48:07,848 --> 00:48:11,070
are reptoid types, that is large,
1002
00:48:11,070 --> 00:48:14,089
kind of intimidating reptilian creatures.
1003
00:48:14,089 --> 00:48:16,169
Yet another type that's been reported
1004
00:48:16,169 --> 00:48:20,969
are what we might call a mantid
or insectoid type creature.
1005
00:48:20,969 --> 00:48:23,790
All of this is bizarre,
but yet these reports
1006
00:48:23,790 --> 00:48:26,452
are consistent across many many years
1007
00:48:26,452 --> 00:48:28,430
and many different types of people.
1008
00:48:28,430 --> 00:48:31,368
Some who are utterly ignorant of the lore
1009
00:48:31,368 --> 00:48:34,770
or of the literature about this
and they still report these.
1010
00:48:34,770 --> 00:48:36,228
You know, ordinary people.
1011
00:48:36,228 --> 00:48:39,866
So that gives me pause and
that makes me really wonder
1012
00:48:39,866 --> 00:48:41,849
if these reports are consistent
1013
00:48:41,849 --> 00:48:44,532
with some of the more ancient myths
1014
00:48:44,532 --> 00:48:48,089
that people have reported
back in earlier times.
1015
00:48:48,089 --> 00:48:50,788
- [Narrator] Deep
underground military bases,
1016
00:48:50,788 --> 00:48:54,212
extraterrestrials living
beneath Earth's surface,
1017
00:48:54,212 --> 00:48:57,066
a race that might not even
be from another planet
1018
00:48:57,066 --> 00:48:59,892
but rather one that has existed here,
1019
00:48:59,892 --> 00:49:04,327
in the shadows, throughout
mankind's entire development.
1020
00:49:04,327 --> 00:49:07,310
Is this the biggest coverup in our history
1021
00:49:07,310 --> 00:49:10,030
or just another conspiracy theory?
1022
00:49:10,030 --> 00:49:13,652
In 2017 we still have no definitive proof
1023
00:49:13,652 --> 00:49:16,468
that any of these claims are true
1024
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which is all the more reason
why this just might be
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one of the greatest journalistic
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responsibilities of our time.
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- And I'm not asking you
to believe me in total.
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I am asking you to
seriously do enough homework
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that you can go out
through the public record,
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through the congressional records,
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find out who's voting for
what and go from there.
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Do your own program, do your own agenda,
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and do your own speaking out
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and if enough of us do this
there is some saving grace.
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(gentle piano music)
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(intense music)
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