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- As we mentioned Donald Trump today

called for more and more military spending.

More troops, more ships, more submarines, more planes.

Didn't say how big the increase

in military spending would be,

but he did throw out a lot of numbers

in justifying the increase.

- And look at this, almost 600 billion in spending there,

almost as much as all the other

nine of the top 10 combined Anderson.

- The Pentagon has secured a 630 billion dollar budget

for next year, even though it's failed to even account

for the money it's received since 1996,

A daunting 6.5 trillion dollars of taxpayer cash

have gone to defense programs,

none of which has been audited and this black budget

has sparked concerns over political fraud.

- The Reuters investigation says since 1996

the Pentagon has spent 8.5 trillion dollars

in taxpayer money that has never been accounted for.

- One thing I found very interesting in this report

is that the Pentagon apparently uses

standard operating procedure to enter false numbers

or so-called plugs to cover lost or missing information

in their accounting in order to submit

a balanced budget to the treasury.

So they can write in everything.

- I mean that's probably the most shocking part of this

is that they get to the end of the day

and they say oh there's money missing, what do we do?

Well we'll just put a number in there

that says it's there and we'll sort it out later.

I mean again, this is the type of operating practice

that if you did it in your own business,

if you tried to do it with your own taxes for the government

they'd haul you off to jail.

- [Narrator] What is the Pentagon's

black budget being used for?

Weapons, defense?

This is the story of one

military family's extraordinary claims.

Claims that could be found true in a hidden reality.

- [Narrator] I'm Phil Schneider.

I spent 17 years in black budget programs.

I'm a government geologist, I was an engineer,

structural engineer with aerospace applications.

Self-taught metallurgist.

In working with the black projects,

I was involved in something very controversial,

almost totally unbelievable to most of you,

but I was involved in building another base

inside of Dulce, New Mexico which is Los Alamos Laboratory.

In the southwest part of the Archuleta Mesa.

We were in the process of the early stages

of building, we drilled four large tunnel-like holes.

Some of them ran 2 1/2 miles under the surface.

Anyway after we drilled all four holes,

took about two days to drill all four of them,

and when you build an underground base,

you drill four basic holes and you build

called stokes or cross member holds across

and then you use blasting equipment.

Yeah you literally blast out or tunnel out

or deflagrate or melt rock out.

The equipment kept coming up broken.

So we wanted to send somebody down there,

a human observer or human observers in this case

and find out what was going on.

When I saw Green Beret and Black Beret people

in camp, inside of our geologist camp

I knew something was up, the gig was up.

In this process, I was lowered down the basket

of one of these holes and about from me

to this elderly woman here in the front,

was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray,

the stench was worse than the worst garbage can

you can imagine.

I didn't waste any time, I reached for my pistol.

At that time I was an engineer.

I didn't have time to carry all the full

or one of these big submachine guns

at all the seize and the yellow fruit

on the outer perimeter and inner perimeter

security people carried.

I carried an old Walther PBK pistol with a nine shot clip.

Plus you're in almost like a spacesuit environment

and you're reaching for a gun,

it's not the easiest thing to do

and then to pop a clip in it

and start shooting.

And I killed two of them.

Yes they're mortal and they do die.

However, in the process, one of them did this.

All I remember is that he just kind of waved his hand

in front of his chest and the next thing I know

this blue beam hit me and just

literally opened me up like a fish.

It was some form of electrical force

because kind of like being hit by lightning bolt,

burned all my toenails off of me

and there was a Green Beret that was right behind me,

but he risked his life, he shoved me back in the basket

and hit the button and took me up.

And I wouldn't be alive talking to you today

if it wasn't for him, so I'm forever indebted.

He lost his life.

66 secret service agents, Green Berets, Black Berets,

crack troops lost their lives because the government,

our United States government lied,

did not tell us anything about the alien threat.

There's a war underneath there and I'm talking dead serious.

(ominous music)

The large alien grays had been in camp there

for as best as believed possible about four or 500 years.

It had been one of their internal bases,

and we drilled holes right on top of it.

All the stink and air, all the black, sooty air

came right out as soon as the first hole was sunk

and all this soot came up and well,

that's when all the hell broke loose really.

How it started.

I have a picture of one of the aliens

been working for the United States Pentagon

for the last 58 years.

His name is Val, Val Valiant Thor.

He's right here.

There's my father in the background.

This whole place, the ready room of the USS Eldridge,

Al Bilika has probably explained

or maybe even shown you this picture

and it's a list of the, some of the notable people in it

and they're all the atomic bomb scientists of the day.

All the time variant experimentalists of the day,

all the top physicists of that particular day.

This was in August of 1943.

- [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave

most of his lectures in 1995.

He gained a following speaking around the United States,

telling people about his alleged experiences.

Phil claimed that he personally knew people

who also worked in black budget programs

who were murdered, and that most of them

were made to look like a suicide.

- 11 of my best friends in the

last 22 years have been murdered.

Eight of them called suicides.

I finally got wind of one of them.

Portland Police is now involved in one of them.

Murder by suicide they call it.

- [Narrator] On August 6, 1993 two years before his lectures

one of Phil's best friends, Ron Rummel

was found dead in St. Macleay Park in Oregon.

He had suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head

and a gun was found nearby.

Police ruled it as suicide, but Phil and many others

strongly believed that he was murdered.

Ron Rummel was best known for publishing The Alien Digest,

a newsletter filled with stories and testimonies

regarding the UFO coverup.

- Author Ron Rummel was about to publish a book

revealing what he believed to be the real purpose

of the Star Wars project when his body was found

here in Macleay Park in Portland, Oregon.

His death was ruled suicide,

but few agree with that verdict.

- As far as the police and the FBI

are concerned it's case closed.

Unfortunately there's the shocking thing

that his murderer, I believe his murderer

is still out there at large.

- Why is it you're speaking out?

- There have been enough lives taken

under the premise of suicide when they were

actually very stable individuals,

always had, they had families

and they had lives to look forward to

and they had every reason to live

and if there is some form of conspiracy out there

then the more people that are talking,

might end up saving lives in the long run.

My friend Ronald Lee Rummel was an Air Force officer,

he was a silver star winner.

There's a good chance that when I fly back to Reno,

excuse me, to Vegas I have to drive home.

I left my car down in Vegas.

I have to drive home alone.

I'm scared to hell.

- [Narrator] On January 17, 1996

after not being seen for at least five days,

Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment

by his landlord and a detective

from the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office.

The autopsy report listed the cause of death as unknown,

but it was later discovered that Phil

was actually strangled by his own catheter hose.

Was this a case of negligence, or a coverup?

- I, there's a number of you ladies present

so I won't gore you out

but Al has seen some of the wounds

and there's a few other people

that have been to a few of my other lectures

and they can attest that I have been shot.

I've been run off the road.

I've been pushed off the road.

- [Narrator] This is an account of Phil's death,

a case that reeks of suspicion, neglect of duty,

and disregard for human dignity.

The first official police report

defines Phil's cause of death to be from natural causes.

On January 16, 1996, deputy officer McLeland is alerted

by a suspicious apartment manager

that he has not seen Phil for weeks.

Upon first investigation when entering Phil's apartment,

officer McLeland finds Phil's body beside his bed,

with his face lying in the seat of his own wheelchair.

Medical and forensic examiner Mr. Coleman

chooses not to respond to the crime scene.

At this point, Phil had been dead for three to four days.

January 17, his body is then whisked away to a funeral home.

January 18, Mr. Took calls from the funeral home

to alert the police that he has found a catheter cord

wrapped around Phil's neck.

This leads to the starting

of detective Haggin's investigation on the same day.

Haggen seems to be the only one interested

in following up this case honestly.

He calls medical examiner Coleman

and segeant Joyce who both elect not to respond.

Upon further investigation,

while interrogating deputy McLeland,

the deputy recalls the catheter cord

being near Phil's neck at the scene of the crime.

It is concluded in this report

that the only person who could have

been around Phil at this time was a woman

from the Oregon Senior and Disabled Services.

Other things recovered from the scene of the investigation

were seven pill medications.

Detectives Harris and Kennell are then assigned to the case.

An autopsy is to be held by Dr. Gunson on January 19.

This was requested as well by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.

The autopsy report surmises Phil's

cause of death by asphyxiation ruled a suicide.

Recovered stomach material showed no signs of pills.

Furthermore, blood and urine are placed

on a three month hold, only to be reported as lost

when Cynthia calls after the given time has passed.

The catheter cord is described

as being wrapped around the neck once

and then tied from the front, very tight.

Now, you must ask yourself how can Phil

be found dead via strangulation

with his face in the seat of his own wheelchair?

Is this something that he could do himself

without taking any form of medical assistance

in order to sedate?

What do we have here?

Is this a clean cut case of suicide?

Or could there likely be foul play?

Could this be a case of murder by suicide?

This case was determined on January 19 as death by suicide

which is further indicated on his death certificate.

But something of even more suspicion appears in this case.

In the Oregonian obituaries, a statement is given

not by Cynthia, that he died from a stroke.

- [Man] So what happened here?

- Trying to get some samples of Phil, my dad

and my mom.

They were suddenly missing, mysteriously missing.

- [Lee] And did, what did they say?

They were just as surprised as you were?

- [Marie] Yeah, oh we don't have those samples.

- [Lee] It's like they never did or they just

or just didn't even know.

- They said we'll hold them for a year.

Mom came back, 11 months before the due date, you know.

Or you know there's one month until the,

they would not hold them anymore.

And they suddenly didn't have 'em anymore.

Yeah.

- Let's get right down to it.

When you're dealing with something of the magnitude

what it appears to be, that is the presence of

a variety of non-humans here on Earth

that are here for some sort of agenda

and everything else that goes along with that

including possible collaboration

by various human groups but then

this is obviously incredibly explosive material

and so it goes without saying

that the intelligence agencies, the deep black agencies,

black ops groups that are involved in this

would need to keep this as quiet as possible.

They would have to, for their own preservation.

So in other words secret becomes the ultimate goal for this

and that means secrecy in theory forever, forever.

Secrecy forever.

If there are leaks that are going to come out about this,

you have to find a way to disable those leaks.

Either by disabling the information

or the individual behind it.

Doesn't have to be by killing them.

It could be by ruining their reputation,

by discrediting them in one way or another.

That's just as good.

Certainly one thing that we know in the last 60, 70 years

is that assassination techniques

have become very, very sophisticated.

Very sophisticated.

The art of suiciding someone,

that is killing them making it be a suicide.

This is widespread.

It's been widespread for many years.

During the days of the Cold War

the KGB was very good at this.

To this day, you're not gonna get the CIA to admit it,

but we know that this happened.

It happened in the case of a fellow named

Frank Olson in 19, the early 1950s.

He was a biological warfare expert

who was given LSD without his knowledge

by a CIA friend.

Long story short, he was taken to a large hotel

in New York City, the tenth floor

and was thrown out the window.

Made it seem like a suicide, it was no suicide.

Olson was killed.

Because he'd become a security risk.

This is a game.

So back to our scenario here of multiple non-human groups

with possible human alien interaction going on,

this is a secret that has to be kept

from their point of view.

And anyone who threatens that secrecy has got to be handled

whether by discrediting that person

or failing all else, by killing them.

- [Narrator] Upon examination, it seems easy

to accept the theory that Phil was a victim of homicide

but what does that mean for his claims

of aliens living underground?

Years after Schneider's death,

other claims of a joint human alien base

underneath Dulce, New Mexico are surfacing left and right.

The book UFO Highway by Anthony Sanchez

is essentially transcripts of interviews

with a person only known as colonel X

who supposedly worked inside this facility

and is known to believe that

Phil Schneider was really there.

Shows like History Channel's UFO Hunters

have even visited the area looking for clues.

- It's a 14 mile underground tunnel

that goes under that mountain there.

- [Man] Yes.

- [Narrator] Even Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy Theory

on TruTV paid a visit to the

alleged location of the Dulce base.

- Do they? - Yeah.

- [Narrator] Some other pretty credible sources

for alien activity in the Archuleta Mesa

include the high number of Apache Native Americans

who have some pretty insane stories

of strange happenings in the area.

- Rumor has it there is a secret base

hidden underneath the Archuleta Mesa here.

The mountain overlooks Dulce.

Some people in town say the base is run by aliens

working with our federal government

to conduct mind control and genetic experiments.

Do you believe that?

- Yeah.

A whole bunch of people seen it, you know.

- The ground opened up, steam coming out of it.

- [Narrator] Geri Julian says she had her first

extraterrestrial encounter right here,

on her Dulce ranch about 40 years ago.

- It was huge.

I just saw the bottom of it,

you know it was like flat like this.

- [Narrator] Many of her neighbors

claim similar, strange sightings.

- Fat in the middle and kind of like rounded on the sides.

You're speechless you know?

You just don't know what to think.

- [Narrator] Sometime in the seventies, things changed.

That's when cows started turning up mutilated.

- They just cut out in between the legs right here.

We seen one.

- I know it's not a predator that's doing it.

There's, someone's doing it.

- [Narrator] Local police never definitively said

who's to blame.

Locals say it has to be something out of this world.

They say they know it sounds crazy.

- I'll submit to a lie detector test or anything you know?

- [Narrator] To be fair, at this point we have to also

play devil's advocate with

Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims.

It is entirely possible that he simply

heard about the tales of UFOs and underground bases

in the Archuleta Mesa area and made up

his own story based on those stories.

In order to at least make an attempt

at finding out if he was telling the truth or not,

we must first know who Phil Schneider was.

- I kind of knew about Phil.

Lee and I had met him through the

Oregon Agate and Mineral Society in Portland, Oregon

and I had been a past president of the society.

Had about 500 members.

So you know it was a large group of people

who came together every other week

to study rocks and minerals.

- [Narrator] What year was this?

- [Cynthia] 1985.

Philip grew up in a navy, armed forces family

'cause he was all over places with his dad.

So let's see, while he was young

I think they also went to London.

It was in the early fifties, 1950s.

So he was in London and I think

that's when Oscar was working in NATO.

He was doing a lot of armed force work in NATO,

but he kind of knew that his dad

was doing a lot of top secret things later on in life.

- I'd like to also mention something about my father.

My father was a U-boat captain in Hitler's navy.

He was captured by the French,

turned over to the third army, the US third army

and then US third army turned him over to the navy

and he was a master machinist.

Now that's not a journeyman, a master means

they can take a block of metal and make a gun

or a watch or some other fine instrument.

He was a master machinist, he later became an MD doctor

in part of the aerospace medicine group

of the United States Navy.

Was instrumental in helping build the USS Nautilus

and its predecessor the Enterprise,

first nuclear powered aircraft carrier

and other ships like it.

- [Narrator] Phil's father, Oscar Otto Schneider

was also involved in government secrecy and black projects.

In the 1990s, during Phil Schneider's lecture tour

across the United States, he was known

to carry many documents and pictures

providing evidence to certain testimony

about controversial subjects he would be discussing.

Furthermore there were four documents

which Phil carried with him on lecture tour.

These documents were allegedly owned by Oscar Schneider

while he was in office working for the United States Navy

in the 1950s.

During this time, the rumored Philadelphia Experiment

took place and perhaps these documents are the smoking gun

that prove in fact the Philadelphia Experiment did occur.

The first document details an autopsy report

on one of the crew members

from the Philadelphia Experiment.

- [Woman] One of the letters that Oscar

wrote about the autopsy

of the Philadelphia Experiment crew member,

Items that he was pulling out of the back of their eyes

and their arms and their legs

these little things that looked like transistors.

That's exactly what they were.

They were little surveillance items

that were placed into the bodies

of the Philadelphia Experiment crew members.

- [Narrator] In this letter, it is addressed

to lieutenant Nathan F. Twining.

Oscar seems to report on the vessel

which Twining's staff couldn't find.

Furthermore, it includes an order from J. Edgar Hoover

to have all personnel undergo psychological testing.

The third letter addresses Edward Condon.

Edward Condon is well known for his involvement

explaining away all UFO phenomenon

as simply optical illusions.

However in this letter, Oscar seems to be

reporting to Edward that seven

Philadelphia Project experiencers

had escaped from a psych ward that Oscar

was holding and testing them at.

He goes on to say that J. Edgar

had declared the incident classified as a

1A prime directive, possibly meaning

something in regards to a top secret security clearance,

finishing this letter with a reference

to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer.

This is significant because Nikola Tesla

has always been known to be involved

with the design of the machine which would create

the fabled Philadelphia Experiment's invisible technology.

Condon, having been known most notoriously

as the leading UFO debunker of his time

paved the way for secrecy and coverups

in this realm that we study today.

The fourth and final letter Oscar Schneider writes again.

In consideration of the latent facts

considering the fate of the USS Farenseth DE-173,

all ships, personnel, and material

must be quarantined absolute until further notice.

No exceptions.

An on site naval inspection is ordered forthwith

as bureau of ships reticent requirements

in section 93A.

Please include DE-173's ship's log

to admiral Roscoe Hillenkoult, USN.

Consider them and all events of nature above secret.

See class ARH-9 project Blue Sky.

Oscar Schneider, captain, USN.

- [Narrator] At this point it appears that

Phil Schneider's father Oscar was very likely involved

in classified operations

that involved top secret technologies.

But what about his son Phil?

What do we really know about his work?

- [Woman] I would say late sixties,

he started his work and I have social security records

under the wrong social security number

and I think this was how the black ops

get away with a lot of things

is they put you under the wrong social security number

so you can't prove your work history with them.

But I can prove that under the wrong

social security number he worked for Morrison-Knudsen

which is a contractor, a civilian contractor

that works for the army or the navy.

He did some work at Trojan Nuclear

and after that, by the early 1980s

he was applying for SSI.

So I know by the early 1980s his career is done.

He's so injured that he cannot do any more work

and his memory is like totally lost

as to what he did before.

It wasn't until after we got married

that he got good medical care

and stopped taking the medications

he was taking when I first met him

that he started to remember all of the things

that are now on the internet.

- Hello Marie. - Hi.

- Want a Squirt?

- [Woman] Lots of food and soft drinks.

- There ya go.

- [Narrator] So tell me when did Phil

start telling you about his past and his work?

- [Woman] It was soon after he kept saying

that he had to take Dilantin to prevent seizures.

But I noticed when he took Dilantin,

he would have a seizure.

It was the other way around.

It was actually killing him and it was disrupting him

emotionally, physically, so much that he

didn't have much of a memory of anything in his past.

And then after we were married

he got really good medical care.

It slowly started to come back.

I mean it was like, he would even say to me

gee I hope you don't think I'm lying

because I'm just remembering this

but wow, you know these things start coming up

and I just suddenly remember what's really happened.

But that's really when it started.

When Oscar died, it might have been '94.

Phil went down into his basement,

and found a file cabinet full of stuff

that was just unbelievable.

And he showed me most of that.

I mean I saw the original envelopes

with the original paperwork that had the drawings on it.

I saw the original photographs

with the stamps on the back from the Navy.

I mean it was all real stuff.

This is not faked.

He shared so much with me,

even though we were divorced at the time.

So I saw all this stuff that came out of the file cabinet,

but he'd been talking to Ron about it a lot.

They were doing a little alien magazine, a little digest.

And then his dad died and he found

all this stuff in the basement.

Well Ron was murdered that same year,

and that infuriated him.

As Philip grew up he went to

Lincoln High School here in Portland

'cause I have a transcript of his senior high school,

so that was pretty normal except it does indicate

on that transcript that he had an IQ of 163.

So I know Phil told me that before he had his medical issues

he could speak 11 languages and I believe that

because he was suddenly in the middle of the night

sleeping together he would suddenly

start rattling off different languages,

so this is all though in his sleep.

He consciously couldn't remember

how to speak those languages,

but in his sleep unconsciously

he could still connect with some of it.

(woman chuckles)

(TV blaring)

(girl chatters)

- First of all the idea of underground bases

and underground civilizations,

this is actually this is a very old idea in human history

you know going back thousands of years

you've got ancient tribes around the world

that have made these claims.

We would say they were myths,

but that there are secret caverns,

secret races, secret tribes

that exist under the ground

and really when one talks about

for example hollow earth theory,

that's a lot of what they're talking about here.

But not all hollow earth theorists

say that the entire Earth is hollow.

A lot of them will say that there are just substantial

caverns under the ground where

there are civilizations that are down there.

So that's an old idea.

You get it in a lot of Asian European

I think like the Germans have the tradition.

You have Native Americans have this tradition.

The Tibetans may have the most extensive

tradition of this for all I know.

On South America traditional tribes had this as well,

so the idea in the Tibetan tradition

from what I have understood about it

is that there are different races

below the surface of the Earth

including reptoid or reptilian races

that are supposedly from other worlds.

I'm not making this up.

So that by itself is interesting and you might ask why

do all of these disparate civilizations have these

kinds of ideas, and I don't have an answer to that.

But I can tell you that's an old, old idea.

- [Narrator] Dolan goes on to explain

the supposed connection between the Nazis

and Tibetan hollow earth theories.

- What you really get into the 20th Century

where Nazis and their predecessors

let's just call them the Thule Society

which was a kind of a mystical sect

that the Nazis really drew a lot out of

in forming their own ideology.

The Thule Society was very interested

in Tibetan myths about openings into the earth.

This idea of deep underground tunnels,

bases, crisscrossing the world.

And since this was a Tibetan idea,

we have to presume that the Nazis themselves

were familiar with this idea as well.

- [Narrator] There's no question that the secret

underground bases do exist, and by the way it's not only

the military of the United States

or other countries you know who are making

these underground and also undersea facilities.

Other agencies and organizations do it as well.

All that is needed is the requisite will,

funding, expert personnel, and technology.

In the early to mid 20th Century,

you had the French of course who constructed

the Maginot Line in eastern France

to guard against German invasion in World War II.

There was a military civil engineering organization

in the Third Reich called the Todt Organization.

And it was named after Fritz Todt.

Fritz Todt was a brilliant civil engineer.

He was the father of the German Autobahn system.

During the World War II period,

Adolf Hitler asked Fritz Todt to lend his

engineering expertise to the

military program of the Third Reich, which he did.

He established an engineering agency

which was called the Todt Organization.

Now Fritz Todt died in a plane crash in 1942,

and one of his deputies named Xaver Dorsch

took over control of the agency.

I did find a couple of project Paperclip memos

from 1947 that specifically requested Xaver Dorsch by name

to be brought to the United States

to work on the United States military's

underground plant construction program.

The American military certainly

was well aware of who Xaver Dorsch was

and his expertise.

In his day he was probably the preeminent authority

on underground base construction,

whether in Germany or in the United States.

- Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina

but they're not from an ancient civilization.

They're reportedly connected with the Nazi regime.

According to an article in the New Zealand Herald

a secret bunker was found which appears

to have been planned for members of the Nazi party

to use as a hideout after

losing the war and fleeing to South America.

- [Narrator] I had people tell me that some of the bases

are as deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down.

- [Narrator] Okay so if they're one mile deep,

how would they make that?

Like can you state possibly a piece of technology

that you came across say in

documents you were researching or?

- [Narrator] Oh yes, oh yes.

Since at least the 1950s, the mining and civil engineering

industries have had the capability

to sink major shafts straight down.

One even two miles or more,

and then to tunnel out from the bottom of these shafts

whether for mining purposes or for tunnel complexes.

One of the most common forms is to use

a very hard cutting edge on the tunnel boring machines

that rotate, would be like a huge version

of the drills used in petroleum industry

or natural gas industry to drill

very deep underground burrows.

- [Narrator] I've heard theories

of also nuclear power drills.

- [Narrator] Yes, I cite this technology in my first book.

These are called subterrains.

Subterrains are nuclear powered.

They use a small fission nuclear reactor.

The nuclear reactor is contained within the machine.

The research and design was done

at Los Alamos National Laboratories back

during the 20th Century and there were some patents

granted to the research team at Los Alamos.

If they are in use, they are being used

clandestinely in great secrecy.

- [Narrator] Could you also maybe lend to the audience

some examples of real underground facilities?

- [Narrator] The most famous one

would be under Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado

which used to be the NORAD headquarters.

Now it's a backup dormant base,

but that'd be the most famous one I guess.

It's appeared in many movies.

It is large, it is sophisticated, it's deep.

Then you also have the famous FEMA underground base

beneath Mount Weather in northern Virginia.

It's run by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

It's also quite deep, sophisticated, large.

This so-called site R complex that is the Pentagon's

alternate command center which is underground

on the border between Maryland and Pennsylvania.

Then of course you have the well known Area 51 facility.

There's been quite a lot of

underground excavation done there.

Many people have spoken about facilities out there.

- Yes sir.

- Let's go back to the so-called area 51

because in people's minds when you say I can't talk about it

because it's classified, conjures up

oh there it is, there's the coverup.

Can you give us any hint without violating any sense of

confidential nature what kinds of things might be happening?

- Sir I cannot, forgive me.

I just do not know.

- [Reporter] Is there anyone in the Air Force that can?

- I'm gonna have to defer that to public affairs.

It's outside of my area of expertise.

- [Reporter] Do you believe in UFOs?

- Firstly no sir. - Why not?

- Ma'am I have no reason to believe that they're real.

- [Narrator] And then there are other ones

that are perhaps less well known.

The NSA in Laurel, Maryland which is at Fort Meade.

Now Fort Meade is an armed facility

but the NSA is actually the major activity there

and there are just literal acres,

multiple acres of supercomputers beneath Fort Meade

that go down and down and down.

I have been told 20 levels, maybe more

and then Los Alamos National Lab in northern New Mexico.

Then you have Camp David in Maryland.

Many people are familiar with Camp David as

a United States presidential retreat

where presidents often helicopter to

for rest and relaxation, but less commonly known

is there is a massive underground facility

that spreads out for miles.

In the route to the first war against Iraq,

Bechtel built three deeply buried

sophisticated underground facilities in Saudi Arabia.

They were used during the war, the first war.

Stormin' Norman Schwarzkopf who was

the American military commander

spent most of that war underground in Saudi Arabia.

And the Chinese, it has come to light

that the Chinese have constructed something like

3,000 miles of underground tunnels

to house their nuclear arsenal.

- [Narrator] What is, what's the benefit

of building all of these bases

in and around the world?

What is it for?

Is it for keeping things secret,

and what are they keeping secret?

Is it for keeping things away from the public?

Is it also for protection in some way?

Could you elaborate on that?

- [Narrator] Yes to all of that.

All of those are considerations.

The motivation for going deep underground

and or deep undersea is often driven by

concerns of security and secrecy.

Weapons production and storage happens underground

whether for nuclear weapons or other kinds.

This has been going on ever since the World War II period.

- [Reporter] It looks almost like

a scene from an action movie.

Dozens of ballistic missile launching systems

inside a gigantic cave.

But the video shows Iran's missile program

is very real and very big,

as the head of the elite revolutionary guards

aerospace division says.

The missiles in various ranges are mounted

on launchers in all bases and are ready to be launched

he told an Iranian state TV reporter and added

that is if enemies make a mistake.

- [Narrator] You also have

scientific research facilities underground.

The CERN supercollider on the border

of Switzerland and France would be a good example.

That one is very publicly known and discussed.

There are other underground research facilities

including like Area 51 and elsewhere

that operate much more out of the public eye.

There are many rumors about clandestine

extraterrestrial facilities both underground and undersea,

and a growing number of people

have come forward over the years

with ample accounts of having seen

and or been taken into such facilities

by a variety of reasons.

Both by extraterrestrials and also

by shadowy elements of the United States military,

by clandestine units.

I do take these stories seriously.

I do believe that these types of facilities exist.

One of the big reasons that they would be here

and underground again, for secrecy, for security,

and for purposes of communication, command, and control.

The same reasons that the United States military

builds underground bases.

- [Narrator] Secrecy, how corporations

and military rule the underworld.

- [Narrator] I've spent years going through heaps

of technical documentation

in the military industrial complex

and Morrison-Knudsen is one of those

that would pop up in the bibliographies.

Companies like Parsons Brinckerhoff, William Douglas,

Kiewit, Black and Veatch.

Of course you have the two military agencies,

the Army Corps of Engineers which is definitely involved

in constructing underground bases and tunnels.

It has been for more than half a century.

You also have the US Navy Seabees who also work

in underground and undersea construction.

Those would be two of the lead military agencies,

but there are large corporations that are involved.

The Bechtel Corporation is one.

Then you have the tunnel boring machine companies

such as the Robbins Company.

A number of these companies which for decades

have worked very closely with

not only the United States military agencies,

but also other agencies in

construction of underground facilities and tunnels.

These are massive undertakings,

and to do that you need to have large organizations

with the bureaucratic administrative structure

that's capable of supporting projects like this.

You won't easily find this stuff on the internet.

I found these documents by going to

federal document repositories

at major university libraries in the United States

and also federal agency document repositories.

With these corporations it's like a shell game,

and it's harder and harder to find out

who is working for whom and what they're doing

and under what conditions.

The so-called Morrison-Knudsen is now owned

by something called URS as of 2007.

So you see, it makes it hard to follow what they're doing

and to follow the money and the contracts

because the names in the corporate alliances

are constantly changing

in a state of flux at a very high level.

- Now these mega bases are gobbling up

our gross national product.

Right now we're spending 28% of the gross national product

on building underground bases solely.

That doesn't count for the defense budget.

That doesn't count for the spare parts budget.

And the black budget is dead, dead wrong.

It sidesteps the United States Congress

and its Constitution of its people,

and says you're a bunch of morons, you don't need to know.

Now, all this alien thing is fine

except for one thing.

Alien takeover is a serious threat.

Kept totally out of the public view,

off the surface, I'm sure the underground bases

without question

are being used as forum, a place to house alien takeover.

Alien takeover means the implementation

of a one-world government.

Direct opposite of constitutional law.

Direct opposite of freedom of choice.

Freedom of religion.

Other freedoms that go with it.

Right to bear arms.

If we allow another election to go by

with the same ilk in the White House,

we have only ourselves to blame.

- One of the questions that arises is

whether or not there is a legendary

much talked about deal between human government groups

and non-humans, a human-alien deal.

You know all I can say at this point

is that anything's possible.

I do believe that there are

a number of other beings that are here,

so if that is possible is it then possible

that such a deal went wrong?

For example what would the deal have included?

It could have included we humans

getting certain technologies and knowledge from them,

in exchange for them having the ability

to do certain things in our society

without us giving them a hassle for.

For them having a permanent base somewhere maybe in Nevada.

Or for them every now and then taking a human being

to examine them, but then returning them.

This is the claim of the human-alien deal.

And the claim furthermore is that we learned,

during the seventies and eighties

that they were not abiding by their agreement.

That they were taking humans, not telling us,

not telling the human government and so forth.

None of this I have any idea if this is true or not.

I have no idea.

What I would say is that

it would very much be in the interest of a visiting race

to make a deal with the US government, why not?

Sure they might be able to wipe us out

if they felt like it, but maybe that's

too much of a hassle for them.

Maybe it's just somewhat easier

to deal with the local governing power.

So it would make sense to make an arrangement

with the local strong arms, strongman

which would be the US military and the US government

and if you really want to get subterranean here so to speak,

there would be a lot of benefit

from a visiting race of extraterrestrials

to exploit Earth and that to the max.

You know a lot of folks in this field

believe that any visiting ET race

would by their nature be peaceful and nonviolent.

I never agreed with this.

I don't understand why just because

you have better technology then that means you're nicer.

You can be just as exploitative.

Look at human history.

We've got great technology these days.

It doesn't mean we're any less exploitative of people

than we were 5,000 years ago.

Well look if you come from some place that's not here,

really makes sense doesn't it to create

a secure environment for yourself

probably under the ground.

It's the best place to be.

All the features of planet Earth

are suitable for human beings.

They may not be as suitable for some other type of species

that didn't come from here.

When I go through the various witness reports,

alleged reports of encounters that people have had

with these other entities, that also reinforces my opinion

that we're dealing with multiple groups.

So at this point in the game, my working assumption

is that humanity right now is interacting

really on a covert basis with multiple

highly intelligent non-human groups that are here,

and they're here for purposes

that might very well be quite varied.

It's not necessarily the case that they all have one agenda.

Now some of these groups, or some of these entities

according to again witness accounts

are like the prototypical grays,

that is the short humanoid large black eyes, big head.

Another type of non-human that's been discussed

are reptoid types, that is large,

kind of intimidating reptilian creatures.

Yet another type that's been reported

are what we might call a mantid or insectoid type creature.

All of this is bizarre, but yet these reports

are consistent across many many years

and many different types of people.

Some who are utterly ignorant of the lore

or of the literature about this and they still report these.

You know, ordinary people.

So that gives me pause and that makes me really wonder

if these reports are consistent

with some of the more ancient myths

that people have reported back in earlier times.

- [Narrator] Deep underground military bases,

extraterrestrials living beneath Earth's surface,

a race that might not even be from another planet

but rather one that has existed here,

in the shadows, throughout mankind's entire development.

Is this the biggest coverup in our history

or just another conspiracy theory?

In 2017 we still have no definitive proof

that any of these claims are true

which is all the more reason why this just might be

one of the greatest journalistic

responsibilities of our time.

- And I'm not asking you to believe me in total.

I am asking you to seriously do enough homework

that you can go out through the public record,

through the congressional records,

find out who's voting for what and go from there.

Do your own program, do your own agenda,

and do your own speaking out

and if enough of us do this there is some saving grace.

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