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Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program. You work

at a computer screen?

Yes. You go through training so you can

work on airstrikes. Okay. A system that... contains all...

the air force's targets.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He's sitting in front of a screen.

He sees it like this. There are other buildings nearby, and this is the one to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is work out how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against its height. A standard floor in Gaza is about three

meters high.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if intelligence estimates there are four civilians on that floor, the strike's NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who are going to die in... in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," let alone...

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the numbers were... for NAZA? I mean...

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes, but I don't think he wants to talk

about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men?

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because they never check. But 500 were approved

you know.

For one person.

So 500 is, like... that's a small town in Israel?

Yes.

"A computer game," we always said.

Really? You called it that? -Yes, like a computer game. -How so? -Because it's all

done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior figure. We don't really know where he's staying. Any place we suspect he might

pass through in his daily routine, we'll bomb. Across a wide area.

Say, from here to that building over there. We strike all of it. A whole neighborhood.

At one point, anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 collateral deaths.

NAZA 20. -NAZA 20.

Suddenly, NAZA 20 became a benchmark. They were killing very low-level Hamas operatives

with a very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more

low-level operatives, that adds up to all of Gaza. -Yes.

Right. I still don't really know what to do with that realization.

I mean, yes, that's right.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and... I can't be part of this.

Well, you were. -What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

We watched a film about it during training. It's called Eye in the Sky.

There's the strike, which was the role I had.

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear]

When you strike someone and see they're injured but still alive

you usually just drop another one on them.

I don't know if I was ever happy about killing someone.

There aren't many people in my unit who hate Arabs.

I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit. It's full of people from Tel Aviv...

There aren't many people there who hate...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

also interviewed, who you say don't hate Arabs, I think killed the most Arabs

over the past two years.

Yes.

What can I say? It's about accomplishing the mission. That's the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that... contains all the targets for...

the air force.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He's sitting in front of a screen.

He sees it like this. There are other buildings nearby, and this is the one to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is work out how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against its height. A standard floor in Gaza is about three meters.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if intelligence estimates there are four civilians on that floor, the strike's NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who are going to die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," let alone

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were?

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes, but I don't think he wants to talk about

it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men? -No.

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because they never check. But 500 were approved

you know.

For one person.

Five hundred is, like... that's a small town in Israel.

Yes.

"A computer game," we always said.

Really? You called it that? -Yes, like a computer game. -How so? -Because it's all

done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior figure. We don't really know where he's staying.

Any place we suspect he might pass through in his daily routine, we'll bomb.

Across a wide area.

Say, from here to that building over there. We strike all of it. A whole neighborhood.

At one point, anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 collateral deaths.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

Suddenly, NAZA 20 became a benchmark. They were killing very low-level Hamas operatives

with a very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives...

that adds up to all of Gaza. -Yes.

Right. I still don't really know what to do with that realization.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and I can't be part of this.

Well, you were.

What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

Citizens of Israel, we have pounded the enemy with massive airstrikes.

It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.

We watched a film about it during training. It's called Eye in the Sky.

There's the strike, which was the role I had.

Yes. [unclear]

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear]

When you strike someone and see they're injured but still alive

you usually just drop another one on them.

I don't know if I was ever happy about killing someone.

In my unit, there aren't many people who hate Arabs. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit, mostly full of

people from Tel Aviv, you know... There aren't many people there

who are, like...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

also interviewed—you say they don't hate Arabs—

I think they killed the most Arabs.

over the past two years.

Yes.

What I can say is, it was about completing the mission. That was the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program. You work

at a computer screen?

Yes. You go through training so you can

work on airstrikes. Okay. A system that... contains all...

the air force's targets.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He sits in front of a screen.

He sees this. There are other buildings around it, say, and this is the building he needs to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

Let's say it's 20 meters. Actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is work out how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against the height.

The standard height of a floor in Gaza is around three meters.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But on that floor, if the intelligence assessment is that there are four civilians, then this strike's NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," let alone

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were?

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes,

but I don't think he's interested in talking about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men?

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because nobody ever checks that, but 500 was approved,

you know.

For one person.

So 500 is, like... that's a small town in Israel?

Yes.

We always called it a computer game.

Really? You called it that? -Yes, like a computer game. -How so? -Because it's all

done remotely.

NAZA—the strikes I remember, 200.

A senior figure. We don't really know where he's staying. Any place we suspect he might

in his daily routine, we'll bomb. And that's over a wide area.

Let's say from here to that building over there, we strike all of it.

A whole neighborhood.

There was a stage when anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with a collateral-damage allowance of 20.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

Suddenly, NAZA 20 became a kind of benchmark. Killing very low-ranking Hamas members with a

very, very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives...

yes, then you get all of Gaza. Yes.

Yes.

Right. I just don't really know yet what to do with that realization.

I mean, yes, that's right.

In practice, that's also why, at some point, I just... I really couldn't do it anymore. I couldn't

stay there, and... I can't be part of it.

Well, you were.

What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

Citizens of Israel, we have pounded the enemy with massive airstrikes.

It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.

We watched a film about it during training. It's called Eye in the Sky.

There's the strike, which was the role I had.

Yes. [unclear]

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear]

When you strike someone and see they're injured but still alive

usually, you just hit him again. I don't know

if I've ever been glad I killed someone. In my unit, there aren't

many people who hate Arabs. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit, mostly full of people from Tel Aviv.

There aren't many people there who are, like, Arab...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

also interviewed—you say they don't hate Arabs—

I think they killed the most Arabs.

over the past two years.

Yes.

All I can say is, it was about completing the mission.

I mean, that was the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that... contains all the targets for...

the air force.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He's sitting in front of a screen.

You see this. There are other buildings around it, say, and this is the building I need to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One thing they do is determine how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against its height. A standard floor in Gaza is about three

meters high.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if intelligence estimates there are four civilians on that floor, the strike's NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who are going to die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," and certainly not,

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were?

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes,

but I don't

think he's interested in talking about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men? -No.

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because nobody ever checks that, but 500 was approved,

you know.

For one person.

What is 500? I mean... that's... a small community in Israel.

Yes.

"A computer game," we always said.

Really? You actually said that? Yes, it's like a computer game. How was it like a game? The

The targets? Because it's all done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior official—we don't really know where he's staying.

Anywhere we suspect he might pass through in his daily routine, we'll bomb.

Across a wide area.

Say, from here to that building over there. We strike all of it. A whole neighborhood.

At one point, anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 collateral deaths.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20 suddenly became a benchmark. They were taking out very low-ranking Hamas members,

with a very, very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives... -Yes.

that adds up to all of Gaza. -Yes.

Right.

I just still don't really know what to do with that realization.

I mean, yes, that's right.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and I can't take part in this.

Well, you were.

What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

We watched a film about it during training. It's called Eye in the Sky.

There's the strike, which was the role I had.

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear] When you strike someone and see they're wounded but still alive,

usually you just hit him again. I don't know

if I've ever been glad I killed someone. In my unit, there aren't

many people who hate Arabs. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit, mostly full of people from Tel Aviv.

There aren't many people there who are, like, Arab...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

have also interviewed, who you say don't hate Arabs, have, I think, killed the most Arabs.

over the past two years.

Yes.

What can I say? It's about accomplishing the mission. That's the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that... contains all the targets for...

the air force.

Did you plan the destruction of a building in Gaza?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He sits in front of a screen.

He sees this, with other buildings beside it, and this is the building to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is work out how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually from the windows.

You can also check against its height. A standard floor in Gaza is about three

meters high.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if the intelligence assessment says there are four civilians on that floor, the NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who are going to die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," and certainly not,

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were?

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes,

but I don't think he's interested in talking about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men?

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because they never check. But 500 were approved

you know.

For one person.

So 500 is, like... that's a small town in Israel?

Yes.

We always called it a computer game.

Really? That's what you called it? Yes, like a computer game. How was it like a game? Everything

was done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior figure. We don't really know where he's staying. Any place we suspect he might

pass through in his daily routine, we'll bomb. Across a wide area.

Let's say from here to that building over there, we strike all of it.

A whole neighborhood.

At one point, anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 people as collateral damage.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20 suddenly became a benchmark. They were taking out very low-ranking Hamas members,

with a very, very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives...

that adds up to all of Gaza. -Yes.

Right. I just still don't really know what to do with that realization.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and I can't be part of this.

Well, you were. -What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

Citizens of Israel, we have pounded the enemy with massive airstrikes.

It will be a victory of good over evil, of light over darkness.

We watched a film about it during training. It's called Eye in the Sky.

There's the strike, which was the role I had.

Yes. [unclear]

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear]

When you strike someone and see they're injured but still alive

usually you just hit him again. I don't know

if I've ever been glad I killed someone. In my unit, there aren't

many people who hate Arabs. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit, mostly full of people from Tel Aviv.

There aren't many people there who are...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

have also interviewed, who you say don't hate Arabs, have, I think, killed the most Arabs.

In the past two years. Yes.

All I can say is: you carry out the mission.

I mean, that was the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that... contains all the targets for strikes by

the air force.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

I definitely took part in planning strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He sits in front of a screen.

He sees this, with other buildings beside it, and this is the building to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is establish how many floors it has.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against the height.

The standard height of a floor in Gaza is about three meters.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if the intelligence assessment says there are four civilians on that floor, the NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who will die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say 15 people will be killed, and certainly not that

15 children and women will be killed. They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were? I mean...

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes, but I don't think he wants to talk

about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies? No.

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because nobody ever checks that, but 500 was approved,

you know.

For one person.

So 500 is, like... that's a small town in Israel?

Yes.

"A computer game," we always said.

Really? You actually called it that? Yes, it's like a computer game. What was like a computer game?

It's all done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior official—we don't really know where he's staying.

Any place we suspect he might pass through in his daily routine, we'll bomb.

Across a wide area.

Say, from here to that building over there. We strike all of it. A whole neighborhood.

There was a point when anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 people as collateral damage.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20 suddenly became a kind of benchmark. They took out very low-ranking Hamas members,

with a very, very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives...

yes, then you get all of Gaza. Yes.

Right. I still don't really know what to do with that realization.

I mean, yes, that's right.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and... I can't be part of this.

Well, you were.

What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

We watched a film about it in training. It's called Eye in the Sky. There's the strike,

which was the job I did.

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear]

When you strike someone and see they're injured but still alive

you usually just drop another one on them.

I don't know if I was ever happy about killing someone.

There aren't many Arab-haters in my unit. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit. Lots of

people from Tel Aviv. There aren't many people there

who are, like, Arab...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

also interviewing, who you say don't hate Arabs,

I think they killed the most Arabs.

In the last two years. Yes.

All I can say is: fulfilling the mission.

I mean, that was the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that... contains all the targets for strikes by

the air force.

Is there a building in Gaza you planned to bring down?

Uh...

Definitely.

I took part in planning strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

Uh... no.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you.

He sits in front of a screen.

This is what he sees. There are other buildings nearby, and this is the building to be attacked.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is establish how many floors it has.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually by the windows.

You can also check against its height. A standard floor in Gaza is about three meters.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay?

He's been identified as a target.

But if intelligence estimates there are four civilians on that floor, the strike's NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who'll die in the strike, as a result

of the strike. They say, 'NAZA 15.' They don't say, 'Fifteen people are going to be killed.'

And certainly not, 'Fifteen children and women are going to be killed.'

They say, 'NAZA 15.' Do you know what

the NAZA figures were? I mean...

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes, but I don't think he wants to talk

about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

Does NAZA distinguish between, say, children and babies, and men? -No.

Yes.

Does a baby count as one NAZA?

Yes.

Yes.

[unclear]

What's the highest number you remember for a single strike?

I can't say how many were killed, because they never check. But there was approval for five

hundred, I mean.

For one person.

So 500 is, like... that's a small town in Israel?

Yes.

"A computer game," we always said.

Really? You actually said that? Yes, it's like a computer game. How was it like a game? The

The targets? Because it's all done remotely.

NAZA, in the strikes I remember, was 200.

A senior figure. We don't really know where he's staying. Anywhere we suspect he might

in his daily routine, we'll bomb. And that's over a wide area.

Say, from here to that building over there. We strike all of it. A whole neighborhood.

There was a point when anyone listed in Lavender could be bombed with 20 people as collateral damage.

NAZA 20.

NAZA 20.

Suddenly, NAZA 20 became a kind of benchmark. Killing very low-ranking Hamas members with a

with a very, very free hand on the trigger, under orders.

But when you authorize killing 20 people for every low-level operative, and there are more operatives...

that adds up to all of Gaza. -Yes.

Right. I still don't really know what to do with that realization.

In practice, that's why at some point I really couldn't stay. I couldn't

stay there, and I can't be part of this.

Well, you were. -What? -I mean, you already took part. -Yes.

We watched a film about it in training. It's called Eye in the Sky. There's the strike,

which was the job I did.

They really try to convince them that it's moral. That's something I told myself too.

[unclear] When you strike someone and see they've been hit and they're wounded,

but still alive,

then, usually, you just drop another one on them.

I don't know if I was ever happy about killing someone.

There aren't many Arab-haters in my unit. I mean, come on, it's an elitist unit. Lots of

people from Tel Aviv. There aren't many people there

who are, like, Arab...

Arabs. There's extreme dehumanization. But somehow, those people you're describing, whom we

also interviewing, who you say don't hate Arabs,

I think they killed the most Arabs.

over the past two years.

Yes.

What can I say? It's about accomplishing the mission. That's the mission.

Good morning. Today we're learning about Arabic verbs.

A very bureaucratic program.

You work at a computer screen?

Yes.

You go through training so you can work on airstrikes.

Okay. A system that contains all the targets for airstrikes by the

the air force.

Did you plan the destruction of a building in Gaza?

I definitely helped plan strikes on buildings that collapsed.

Do you remember how many?

No.

You know I'm doing this without authorization right now.

Yeah?

If I [unclear], they'll put me in prison for revealing it.

I can't think of a place more [unclear] than a rooftop. -Yeah.

You can see the city, but the city can't see you, in a way.

He sits in front of a screen.

He sees this, with other buildings beside it, and this is the building to strike.

First, one of the things he's given is its dimensions.

This building is 20 meters... actually, 15 meters.

One of the things they do is work out how many floors there are.

How do you know how many floors there are? Usually from the windows.

You can also check against the height. The standard height of a floor in Gaza is about three meters.

Like this.

We've established there's a Hamas operative on the sixth floor, okay? He's been identified as a target.

But if the intelligence assessment says there are four civilians on that floor, the NAZA

is four.

NAZA four.

What's NAZA?

Collateral damage. The number of people who are going to die in the strike.

As a result of the strike.

They say, "NAZA 15."

They don't say, "Fifteen people will be killed," and certainly not,

"Fifteen children and women will be killed." They say, "NAZA 15."

Do you know what the NAZA numbers were? I mean...

I don't remember them.

Do you know anyone who would?

Who would be willing to talk to me? I really want to understand.

Yes, but I don't think he's interested in talking about it.

I'm also trying to understand...

These are the launches from Gaza, and this is the sky over Gaza, and this is the sky over Tel

Aviv.