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This is a sketch of the serial rapist who is suspected of

raping a dozen women in northern Utah and Wyoming.

He blindfolds his victims with duct tape and/or clothing that

he's either ripped off or cut off of his victims.

He's an absolute monster.

This guy has done some things to people that it's hard

to even imagine.

- I would kill again. - They're dead.

I'm alive.

I don't think it was wrong.

The thing inside of me, it's like...

the appetite. It's like a wolf that's...

feeling...

the hunger.

Breaking news on 2News.

Good evening.

A big development in a Davis County cold case.

Police arrested a suspect in connection with rapes dating

all the way back to the 1990s.

On the surface, when we look at Mark Burns, we see someone

who's 69 years old, twice married and divorced.

He's a father, he's a grandfather,

he's a former Marine.

When people talk about the mask of sanity or this idea of

somebody who blends into society and this chameleon-like

persona, Mark Burns is a great example of that.

By day, he was the neighbor next door, and by night and in

his shadows and his rearview mirror, was this long history of

offending, of sexual sadism, of predatory behavior.

Sexual violent predators are extremely different than,

obviously, everyone else in society.

But even from other violent offenders, they want to

maintain some type of, you know, control of

a situation, power dynamics.

This is a man that raped a woman who was just passing

through a McDonald's.

I mean, literally out in public.

He's got the confidence, the knowledge,

and the capacity to do this in an environment like that.

It probably was not the first time.

We're starting to see this facade,

of this loving grandfather,

fade away now.

He may have come into this interview wondering

what was going on, what information they had about him,

but then whenever they say, "Hey, yeah, we-- we have

this evidence, this DNA evidence," they ask him

about specific numbers with regard to rape victims, he,

in some ways, shuts down the interview.

We know that individuals with psychopathy like to control

the interview, and he realizes pretty quickly on that he does

not have control over how this is going to go.

He's talking about it as if

he were reading a novel out loud for an audience.

As he's telling the entire story, you don't get the sense

that he's emotionally activated at all, that he feels

anything, really. You don't get a sense of guilt.

You don't get a sense of anger.

You don't get a sense of really

any emotional attachment.

And that is a level of, you know, vile behavior

and callousness that, uh,

really rings through what we see with individuals

with psychopathy.

We see the narcissism in Burns here and this sort of glib

attitude and lack of remorse for what he's done.

And while raping women makes him feel powerful,

what's behind narcissism is a really fragile,

insecure person.

And that's part of his agenda, I think,

is to keep himself safe.

To keep himself going into prison with a reputation that

nobody would touch him because he's dangerous.

Burns is talking about his stimulation-seeking.

And this-- this notion that what had been really exciting

for him with the rapes,

as he put it, "they were just getting old."

So now he needed something else to fuel his desire,

to fuel his thrill, basically.

And that's not uncommon in individuals with psychopathy.

They just continue to need higher and higher levels of

stimulation to get the same fulfillment.

He's only seeking to get, eh,

fulfillment and stimulation

and to heighten his arousal by killing her.

Mark Burns was very, in his way, proud of saying

he came up with this scheme that no one had done before,

was-- he thought he was very clever.

This is this grandiosity shining through that he thinks

he's so smart he came up with this.

He's God in that moment.

He gets to pick what he does, and that was the most

enthralling thing for him.

There are certainly cases that show psychopathic offenders

who have some self awareness that they're different than

everybody else, they've known it since childhood.

In the case of Burns, he knows it's different.

He knows he doesn't think like most people.

He knows that he doesn't regard human life the way

most people do. But he's not bothered by it.

He's not motivated to change it.

And because of that, it makes him particularly dangerous.

The fact that he's not willing to tax his brain at this point

in the investigation to remember facts that are running

together, more than anything, it just speaks to

his own narcissism. He's gotten his notoriety.

He's now got a willing audience of law enforcement agencies

willing to listen to him talk, and he's bored.

Like everything else in his life, he does it until

he's satiated, and then he's bored.

He knows he didn't get his federal placement.

He has no reason to be cooperative anymore.

And the cat and mouse game is gone.

It's done.

I think here, Burns is actually being honest.

Research actually shows, for people,

our anticipation of events and looking back at an event

are actually more powerful than living the event itself.

He's reliving sexual assaults of women that were completely

innocent and were just in

the wrong place at the wrong time.

In a narcissistic offender, in a sadistic offender,

in a psychopathic offender, we see that deep need for power

and control, and I think gets most bluntly stated

by Mark Burns. You know, "it was Christmas."

Every single day it was the excitement of running

downstairs and seeing what was under the Christmas tree.

He is a violent offender who would continue to go on

committing offenses if it bought him something.

Mark Burns is not motivated by anyone or anything other than

what Mark Burns wants.