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We believe that UFOs are real,

that they are from outer space,

and that they're intelligently controlled.

I believe that some of them will prove to be

of interplanetary origin.

We can say that the recent sightings

are in no way connected with any secret development

by any agency of the United States.

For decades, people have been spotting

strange lights in the sky, seeing unidentifiable craft

dart across the horizon.

And it made no noise.

It was completely silent.

And occasionally waking up

with a lingering suspicion

that something had been in their bedroom

that wasn't there before.

Lots of people have suggested that I forget this

because of the ridicule it might bring

to my husband and my children,

but I saw for so many minutes,

that I can't deny what I saw.

What if we've been

thinking about UFOs all wrong?

What if these mysterious visitors

aren't just little green men in flying saucers?

It's something far weirder.

They look like non-humans.

Yeah.

They're three to four feet tall.

Something that interacts with us,

not through radio waves, but through our minds.

We have no idea what consciousness is.

Bend, bend, bend, bend.

I know there's aliens inside there.

Welcome to the mind blowing world

of psionics and UFOs-

Holy shish kebab, look at this stuff.

They're going right over our heads man.

This transmission is addressed

to the Galactic Federation of Worlds.

where telepathy and consciousness itself

might be the key to unlocking

the biggest mystery of our time.

Okay here's one right there,

right above me.

Look, I got one right here.

I'm Patrick Scott Armstrong,

host of the popular podcast at YouTube channel, "Vetted."

And I'm on a journey around America

to meet those who claim they can use psionics

to summon UFOs,

experience them doing it in the field,

and even try it myself.

You may have already been taken, you just don't remember.

There's a reason why...

My aim, to get to the bottom of

whether it's all nonsense,

or whether this is something that should be taken seriously.

Oh do you-

Did just see that Patrick?

Yeah, turn it off for a second.

In January, 2025,

a company called Skywatcher Technologies

rock the UFO community,

when they announced they were able to communicate

with alien craft using the power of the mind.

Its founder, Jake Barber,

who says he served in the US military

and the broader intelligence community

issued this startling video.

Jake, do you believe that a higher form

of non-human intelligence has been visiting this planet?

Well, yes I do.

And when you make that claim, Jake,

how confident are you that claim is true?

I'm 100% confident that that claim is true.

Oh my goodness, oh boy.

Yeah, right?

Yeah, yeah.

We were deployed on particular tasks,

which included the recovery of exotic craft,

of non-human origin.

This crash recovery effort

was coordinated with another program

that had to do with an interest in how consciousness

had an impact or could interface with technology.

Yeah.

We were also invited to be part of a program

that dealt with the research and development

of the building of a system

in which a particular human, not non-human,

a particular human with a disposition and talent

for manipulating their own consciousness,

could interface with certain technology.

That effort very quickly led to the idea

that the power plant for these systems

and the interface to manipulate that power plant

wasn't done through mechanical interface

of levers of phalanges

in order to manipulate control systems.

It was done through the mind.

What's shocking about the Skywatcher video

is not just the outlandish claims,

it's that they've also been testing them in the field.

They've recruited specific people

with alleged telepathic powers to call in UFOs.

They call these people, psionics assets,

and they claim it's working.

During our time together,

all 15 of us saw some form of unusual lights in the sky.

These lights would randomly appear,

stay for some short period, and then disappear.

Oftentimes, multiple lights would seem to appear at once.

They would frequently move in patterns or angles,

that, at least to me, seemed unusual

for a plane, satellite, meteor, or space debris.

I'm keen to know more

about Skywatcher and their work.

So I'm flying to California to a conference

where Jake has told me he would be.

Contact at the desert is described by Forbes Magazine

as the Woodstock of ufology.

He claims to be the largest gathering

of Ufologists in the world.

I wasn't sure what to expect.

Thankfully, unlike Woodstock, it wasn't tense.

It was a five-star hotel,

which for three days had been taken over by members

of the UFO community.

I was pleasantly surprised

that there were "Vetted" fans there

who wanted to chat with me

and were keen to tell me their UFO stories

and show me footage.

Because it's this light,

no, this flew past me maybe 15,000 feet above,

it was about nine o'clock at night.

See what?

Just a orange-reddish, think of a red traffic light.

Maybe one to three feet in diameter.

Flew past me, no sound.

I've never been happier since I've been here.

I came last year and, you know, I was just like,

I've gotta come back.

And I've been saving ever since,

'cause I actually come from Oxford, UK,

so it's a very long journey for me.

So, it's worth it, it's really worth it.

There were also people there who blew my mind,

like this lady.

So yeah, tell me a little bit about the unit.

I don't know anything.

All right, well, we are Omicron Commonwealth.

We are recognized as a sovereign nation as of April 26th.

This year?

Yes, this year.

So, very recent, but... Wow.

On to good and better things, right?

And so we're working together

to bring humanity together to have one voice,

by raising our frequency in our consciousness

so that we can interact with the greater cosmic communities

and work with extraterrestrials.

Absolutely.

So why the uniform?

Real quick before,

why are you in uniform?

Well, we are part of the Military Service Corps.

So most of the time when people hear military,

they think of the United States military.

However, we are not the United States military.

We are a military structure,

'cause through chaos comes order.

And so that's why we chose the Military Service Corps.

Eight years ago, I was, just walking around,

needed to get some sage,

and I found another member and we talked.

We ended up talking for like four or five hours

getting into a really, good in-depth

talking about just energy and the connections,

the influences.

And she was like, "You know what?

I have someone for you to meet, her name's Victoria Whitney.

And you know, I think that you would really enjoy listening

to a lot of the knowledge that she has to share."

You know, to create a nation in a country,

it's a lot of work, a lot of documents.

I do have a regular job.

I do have a, you know, normal life right now.

As far as, until we get our proper...

Once we get land, we'll be recognized as a sovereign-

What do people in your... country

life, who aren't into this,

think about what you're doing?

So at first, my mom thought I was a little crazy, right?

Sure. - ETs, what?

She doesn't believe in that.

And I just kinda shared with her respectfully that

I have this belief system and I'm not here to persecute her.

And respectfully, I'd hope that she wouldn't do that

for me as well.

And, yeah, so we just mutually respect.

I'm gonna be trying CE-5 for the first time

over the summer, multiple times.

Have you ever done anything like that,

or what do you know about that?

I have not.

Do you know anything about it?

I do not.

Really?

Right.

Close Encounters,

like, a bit like mentally connecting with ET.

I connect with them on the astral,

and I'm in the process of raising my frequency high enough

so that I can connect with them the way the chancellor does.

And that's the whole point is,

raising our frequency and our consciousness, right?

Your frequency has to be high enough

in order to interact with them.

Right, okay, so you connect one way,

but the chancellor connects...

Is it a deeper level or what?

Her frequency is much higher.

So she has a deeper-

She has a direct connection with them.

And how is your connection not direct?

It is direct,

however, my frequency is not as high as hers,

and so I haven't had as many connections as her.

Okay, I see. - Right?

Just based off my experience and where I'm at on my path.

Sure, that totally makes sense.

I just don't even know what I'm doing with my life.

You know, sometimes,

like, what am I doing out here?

I'm trying to connect with aliens

and UFOs with my mind out here.

I mean, it sounds batshit crazy.

It just, it sounds batshit crazy.

And you're talking to people here who

vehemently believe it, you know?

Convinced that it's not only possible,

but they've done it, right?

And, I get it.

We don't understand the power of our mind.

I totally understand that.

And maybe it is just me.

Maybe it is just me that can't square away the idea

that my mind could connect with another intelligence.

And not only that, but, sort of bring them in,

control them a little bit and bring out a UFO, right?

The concept sounds wacky at first.

It sounds stupid, right?

It sounds absolutely crazy.

What's great about the conference

is there are lots of big names

from the UFO community that attend.

So it was an opportunity to ask in their views on psionics.

First up was Steve Bassett.

We had to change UFO to UAP, right?

And that was very helpful.

UFO is back now, that's how well we're doing.

But UFO is hard to come out of a journalist's mouth

or a politician, so we changed that.

Now, over the years, psychic people, right?

People with psychic phenomena, right,

Or, you know, basically they're gypsy tarot readers,

it's all kind of lumped in, and demeaned.

Psionics is a fantastic substitute for psychic phenomena.

It's cool, it's tech, it's new.

It doesn't have the stigmatization, I totally get it.

Well, it just seems to be the, kind of, new,

fancy term for, what I think you would generally

call psychic powers, telepathy,

the idea of a CE-5, where you have some sort of,

interactive, kind of, relationship with the UAP

or with the NHI or whatever acronyms we are using

for all of this.

But it's funny because in the whole UFO field,

is every now and then an idea takes hold,

like a meme or something becomes viral

and it may be legitimately a new development, a new angle,

or it just may be a, this is the current in thing.

So for example, in the nineties,

there was that period where if you went to a UFO conference,

abductions were very much at the top of the bill.

I sometimes, I'm a little cynical, because I'm like,

how many of the people here are actually,

say, neurologists or really understand

the structure of the brain, and how many people are,

what they're really talking about is

channeling someone from the

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

I'm honestly probably equally as cynical.

What is your experience of it?

Have you ever tried CE-5?

I have not.

Would you do it?

I haven't done it either.

And this summer I'm partaking, like, you know,

filming a journey of myself, meeting people who do it

and trying it myself to see what it's about,

'cause I haven't done it either.

But I have a fear, right?

If I'm...

I think it's kind of bullshit,

but, there's a small chance that, okay, this is real.

If it's real, then what am I inviting into myself, you know?

What am I getting myself into if it is real?

Yes.

That's my fear.

No, I think that's legitimate.

My fears being legitimized

wasn't what I wanted to hear.

But I did latch onto what Nick said about

if communicating with UFOs is real,

it should be tested scientifically,

as this seems to be exactly what Skywatcher are doing.

So I was disappointed that Jake Barber

didn't come to the event, even though he said he would.

Skywatcher might have bailed,

but instead, I sat down with Anthony Peake

to learn more about psionics and consciousness.

My position on this is that we have no idea effectively

what consciousness is,

what self-referential consciousness is,

or indeed what the external reality around us is.

So we have two things interfacing with each other

that we have no idea what's going on.

And we have anomalous experiences such as psi,

and such as telekinesis, telepathy, all these other things

there have been evidence of these things

for as long as human beings have talked to each other.

Like, Close Encounters, like CE-5.

Are you familiar?

Yes, yes.

Right so, what do you think about that process?

Specifically, do you think it's dangerous?

Well, it's not a question of being dangerous.

I mean, if we were concerned about things being dangerous,

we'd never have invented fire.

So, the issue is that human beings,

the very nature of human beings is,

if it's there, we'll explore it.

We'll stick our finger in the fire and see what happens.

And if it causes blisters, so what?

Do you think that human consciousness

is really able to interact with UFOs

to do the CE-5 experience?

I think human consciousness creates UFOs.

I'll give a classic example.

Last year here, do you know about the UFO encounter

they had here last year?

Okay, group of people, I think it was with,

Mark D'Antonio, I'm not sure.

But they had a, kind of, sky watch every night

at the far end of the complex.

Last year, they all came running in

one evening, really excited.

And I confirmed this from people

yesterday when I was asking,

was anybody there and anybody witness it?

And they told me they did.

They were all out there,

and suddenly coming across in the sky,

coming across from over in the direction,

I guess the city or the city here,

they saw a boomerang in the sky,

black boomerang with lights on.

And it dipped across the back of the hotel

and shot off in that direction.

And five minutes later it came back.

How was that UFO not seen by anybody outside?

Surely if a UFO had gone across

Indian wells and Palm Springs,

thousands of people would see it, but they didn't.

They didn't, because it wasn't attuned to them.

They were not in the position.

They were collectively anticipating

and wanting to see a UFO.

Whoa, that's a big thought.

That UFOs are summoned by our collective anticipation?

It's incredible that we know so much about the world,

but we don't really know

the first thing about consciousness.

Our own brains are still a mystery.

This was reinforced by a chance encounter

I had with a man named Eric, who I met in the lobby.

He said he was an experiencer,

and could communicate with non-human intelligence,

and he wanted to show me something special

he could do with his brain.

The next thing I knew, there was a large group of people

and equipment in my hotel room.

So what are we checking for Eric?

Any... There's nothing.

Any trickery devices, anything to that would lead to a hoax.

This is organic, so it's not, you know,

a trick or anything like that, it's honest stuff, so.

The doctors I've worked with,

they think I'm able to access

the electromagnetic field in my brain,

and manipulate it to create sound.

So, and that's what we're gonna do today.

So in our experiment, what we did,

just to prove that it's not, like, a blood flow

or like a pulse that you're hearing is to,

if I ask Eric, you know, a certain cadence

and he can do it with that frequency in his head,

Oh shit, oh, I see what you mean,

like a melody. - Yeah, bump, bump, bump.

I have more control with that, and I do my own voice.

So I can fluctuate it, no problem.

Let's do two short, one long, one short.

Looks like, some kind of

I saw some shit right here.

Yeah, you're pushing all those frequencies

through bone, flowing water, flowing blood,

tissue, all that stuff.

So by the time it gets outside of the bone itself,

you know, it's pretty diminished.

But, so, for me, what I experience is not exactly

what you're gonna hear,

because it's just all different on the other side.

Sure.

Two short, one long, two short.

I'm no scientist.

But looking at the screen,

I couldn't see that Eric was having any real effect.

Right, what you want to look for

is the controlled vibrations and frequencies

at your own command.

How does this thing,

how does that ability help you?

Like, what's it for?

I don't know.

You know, when craft are around

my head sometimes does it by itself, which is scary,

but I don't...

I'm not gonna presume.

I wish I knew more, you know, instruction booklet

or something like that, you know?

But...

All right, here we go.

Three, two...

Then, I decided to give it a try.

I don't know, it's weird, I do feel something there,

but I can't tell what the fudge's going on.

It's just strange, this is so weird.

I've never done anything like this.

What were you thinking about

when you were doing that just now?

Nothing, really just trying to push energy

to the front of my head.

But I've never done that before,

so I don't know how to go about doing that,

but I just, I don't know, I just thought of that.

Okay.

And I could feel, like, all of a sudden,

my blood vessels in my forehead

were pulsing more than they ever had.

When I was watching you and you were away from the mic,

it almost seemed, now I was at the back of the room,

but the light was coming through the window

and it almost seemed like the light got a little bit

brighter in your forehead.

It could have been clouds, could have been...

But, it was interesting. - Interesting.

Alright, let's talk about the hotel room experiment.

You know,

I wanna be nice here, but it was disappointing,

you know, but at the same time,

I don't know what I was expecting, you know, as well, right?

I was still, just a little confused

on what exactly were the claims made by Eric, right,

in this room.

And all respect to Eric, I just was still confused on

what this ability was he was gonna show me.

And not only that, but how can...

How do you even use that ability in real life?

Like, what does it do?

I mean, one thing is like, reading people's minds.

And another thing is like, you know,

telekinesis, like, moving things with your, you know,

with your mind and then also, like, connecting with ET.

Okay, but this was like,

I can make a sound come out of my brain.

But, you know, in the hotel there, in the room.

Yeah, I was a little disappointed, right?

At the same time, it came off a little goofy

that people were like,

oh, you did better than anybody, right?

We had three people try it before me,

allegedly I did it the best, whatever that means.

And then the one guy coming and saying,

there was a light coming outta my forehead,

like, what the-

oh man,

you know, I don't know.

But he seemed so genuine, that guy, right?

Chatting to people at the conference,

I learned more of the history of psionics.

So this is what I know.

The roots of psionics lie in the late Victorian era

when spiritualism, mesmerism,

and early psychical research were all the rage.

Scientists like William Crookes

in the Society for Psychical Research

flirted with the idea that telepathy, clairvoyance,

and mind over matter could be tested scientifically.

It was the age of seances and ectoplasm,

and the idea that the mind at untapped powers

was intoxicating.

The term psionics itself was coined in 1952

by John W. Campbell,

the editor of "Astounding Science Fiction."

Campbell fused psi from parapsychology with electronics,

hoping to lend the whole thing a veneer of techno rigor.

Under his watch, science fiction writers

like, Murray Leinster and Henry Kuttner

began weaving tales were psychic powers were systematized,

mechanized, almost like engineering disciplines.

Psionics became the sci-fi answer to sorcery.

The toolkit for mental superpowers

presented with knobs, dials, and jargon.

Then in the fifties, the Cold War provided fertile soil.

Rumors swirled that the Soviets were researching

telepathy and remote viewing.

And naturally, the CIA couldn't be left behind.

MKUltra tried to hack human consciousness with LSD

and Project Star Gate dabbled in psychic warfare,

attempting to spy on enemy bases via remote viewing.

The results were patchy at best,

though the sheer seriousness

with which governments threw money at clairvoyance

is its own kind of uncanny.

Enter Lieutenant Colonel Jim Channon,

who returned from Vietnam,

and a stint at the Esalen Institute,

convinced the army needed to go cosmic.

His illustrated First Earth Battalion manual

envisioned warrior monks who practiced yoga, radiated peace,

and maybe levitated the enemy into submission.

The US Army actually entertained parts of this vision

under the umbrella of non-lethal weapons.

Soldiers dabbled in Tai-chi and meditation.

Some allegedly tried to kill goats

with psychic stares in lab pens.

Jon Ronson's, "The Men Who Stare At Goats",

immortalized the farce, equal parts tragedy, satire,

proof that psionics had infiltrated

the Pentagon's imagination.

Meanwhile, psionics took a second life in popular culture.

TV gave us "The Tomorrow People"

and "Star Wars" offered Jedi mind tricks.

You don't need to see his identification.

Most memorably "Dungeons & Dragons"

introduced psionics in the 1976

Eldridge wizardry supplement,

framing it as an alternate path to magic,

mathematical tables and all.

By the eighties,

psionics had blurred into the broader New Age movement,

bookshelves sagged with guides to psychic self-defense,

energy healing, and telekinetic spoon wrangling.

You see-

And people like Uri Geller made headlines with TV stunts.

And this is not an illusion.

It's definitely not an illusion.

It's becoming like plastic.

As Cold War budgets waned,

the border between science and seance blurred.

Star Gate Project was terminated in 1995

when the CIA released a report confirming and concluding

that no applicable use had been found

from these practices for intelligence operations.

By the nineties, US government programs

had wound down or were discredited.

So wealthy patrons stepped in,

such as Las Vegas real Estate tycoon, Robert Bigelow,

who threw his work at Skinwalker Ranch,

became a patron saint of UFO and consciousness research.

Government shut the door, billionaires opened their wallets.

Do you also believe that UFOs have come to earth?

There has been, and is an existing presence,

an ET presence.

And I spent millions and millions,

I probably spent more as an individual

than anybody else in the United States has ever spent.

Then in this century, "Stranger Things"

took the myths of Stargate and "First Earth Battalion"

and turned them into a bingeable drama

that introduced a whole new audience

to the untapped powers of the mind.

And now we have privately funded Skywatcher

claiming to use psionics assets to summon UFOs.

Jake did respond by text, so I knew he wasn't coming,

and he just said things came up

and, you know, he wasn't gonna be there,

which was disappointing.

And there was one or two representatives

of Skywatcher there.

I tried to talk to them, but they, kind of,

were elusive, let's just put it that way.

Very elusive.

And in fact, a lot of people of Skywatcher

have been very elusive with me lately.

Was told by Eric, right, Eric Mitchell,

that they are taking a break till the end of the summer.

They're looking for psionics assets,

but having issues with it.

You know, Skywatcher came out out here at the top, right?

It was very interesting.

They have these videos and making these big claims.

And, you know, it feels like it's falling a little short

to be honest with you.

But, you know, who knows?

If I can't do psionics with Skywatcher,

I need to find somewhere else to practice.

At the conference, filmmaker Ron James suggested

I go to Sedona, a hotspot for UFO activity,

where he says, there is one particular lady

who can teach me how to do it.

But I have to admit, I'm a bit scared.

So I called experiencer, James Iandoli.

I keep running into this wall.

And the wall is, I don't know what this phenomena is.

And if it's real and it's, you know,

and people like yourself believe it

to be a hundred percent real,

I haven't crossed that line yet.

But if it is real,

then no one can guarantee my safety if I try this, right?

To make some sort of mental connection

with an entity that we know nothing about,

Sounds like jumping out of a plane with no parachute.

So, do you not worry about that yourself?

For me, I didn't have a choice, right?

I had experiences already.

So, at that point, I was just continuing the conversation.

I wanna know what happened to me, why it happened to me.

I was already in the ocean, so to speak.

So I just wanted to be able to navigate it.

It's not like you've opened this portal, right?

So what happened is, your perception and awareness,

the aperture is now more open, right?

Say it's open 25 degrees more, right?

Or 25%.

You're gonna see and experience maybe other things,

maybe start to have, like, poltergeist activity,

the hitchhiker effect or post contact effects.

Yeah.

For some people it could be the most positive influence

and change in their life, and it can be for all the better.

So you have these kind of, like, either or situations

or, you know, in some way it's gonna affect you, right?

You heard Jake Barber say this was the most

beautiful experience in his life,

that he had with this entity, this non-human intelligence.

You don't know what you're gonna get.

The general consensus is if you go out

with a positive attitude for to have a positive encounter

with non-human intelligence,

like 99% of the time,

that's generally what you're gonna get.

But again, if you're somebody

that has a caution about it, don't do it, don't do it.

Nobody's making you do it.

If you have a hesitancy, don't do it.

But I did want to do it.

So I headed to Sedona, it's a road trip.

And Gino from "The Why Files" tagged along.

With its stunning Red Rock Mountains,

Sedona was something else.

The ships land-

The first person we were set to meet

was Reverend John Polk,

who claims to hold a BA in metaphysics

from the University of Sedona and conducts UFO tours.

John says he can communicate

with extraterrestrials psychically

and has posted these videos on YouTube.

Did you see that?

It did that on purpose for us.

Wow, it powered up.

Wow.

Fantastic.

Yeah, oh my goodness, wow.

Oh my gosh.

What a fun night.

Yes. - Yeah.

Woo-hoo!

Yeah, I know.

I didn't know it'd be this good.

This is-

Hey man.

Hey man, what's up dude?

This is Gino.

Gino, awesome, glad you're here.

Right on man.

So, I'm about ready to start cooking, grilling,

Or what do so say?

Sounds good man.

Let me get my nitrogen goggles.

How about this?

We do not call them in.

We invite them, you have to call in a demut.

They need to be told what to do.

You invite love, light, and consciousness.

And when I first moved here,

I got butt raped, abducted pretty hard,

'cause I was calling them in man.

And I didn't know what I was doing,

and I thought that I did.

But you live, you learn.

It didn't feel appropriate to ask John

more about his very intimate UFO abduction.

But I was keen to hear how he goes about summoning UFOs.

So more positive that you are, the more we see.

The more skeptical that we are, the less we see.

The people's energy dictates what we see.

Now, breathe it in, just deal with it.

Breathe in great spirit, which the Navajos taught me.

Breath in great spirit,

there's elementals or spirits in the air,

breathing in it tunes the water in your body.

And then release all that is less than love.

Woo!

John says, Sedona's unique landscape means

the area is full of energy vortexes,

making it a prime spot for UFOs.

If you can phase or pulse an electromagnetic field,

you can make objects disappear and reappear.

So we're in the middle of a monster conglomerate

of electromagnetic fields.

And then, the red rocks are full of crystal.

So crystal will pick up on the magnetism from the earth

and literally create electricity

called the piezoelectric effect.

So now, you have electricity shooting into the vortexes

and it can make objects disappear and reappear.

And that's why there's so many fricking UFOs here.

When you live here long enough,

you will meet aliens that look just like us.

In Sedona, absolutely, yeah.

John is quite a character.

He told me about the time he recorded

what he claims were aliens talking

while he was doing one of his UFO tours.

And we see this craft flying right over our heads

and there's probably 10 of us or whatever.

And something jumped in over the recording

and none of us heard it.

You know how that goes?

I've been there.

We didn't hear anything, but we were busy at work.

My boss at the time wanted me to record everything,

so I did.

And I finally went back to it, listen to it, and watch it.

And I had no idea that I picked up on what I picked up on.

But I'm gonna play that for you right now.

So, here we go.

You gotta, you really have to let this soak in, man.

It's just cool.

It's just fun, and exciting, and interesting

to hear all this dude-

And my research man, I'm all about my research.

I've been researching since I moved here in 2017.

Yeah, next month I will have lived here eight years.

With the sunset,

It was time to do some psionic meditation

and then bring out the night vision goggles.

Gino, Patrick, goggles.

Okay, holding them.

Look at this right here, man.

Yeah, Patrick, you gotta see this dude.

It's like it started right there.

No, this is gonna fly over our heads too.

It didn't, it didn't.

I swear to God, man. - From horizon.

We have created a beacon here

with our, the collective energy.

Look at this one behind it, man.

Holy shish kebab, look at this stuff.

And they're coming right over our heads, man.

It's like, what more do you want?

Oh dude, look at the little ones behind me,

you see that?

I was seeing stuff,

but it was much harder to film than I imagined.

Look at the field around this thing.

Can you see it now?

Can you see the field around it?

Yeah, that's pretty wild.

So I was telling Patrick

on the phone the other day,

the more positive and powerful your energy is,

the more you will see.

And I mean, there is-

You guys got good energy, man.

There is... I'm telling you.

I guess I saw a UFO.

Anybody... The thing is-

Are we good?

I already have an idea for that.

Patrick?

I definitely saw-

I know you did man, we're in Sedona,

shit happens all the time. - I saw it moving,

which I thought maybe, you know, that's something.

And then a light that was just there in the background

started, it just boom, started moving.

I was like, what the fuck?

It just was strange, you know what I mean?

Why did that, I don't know.

It was-

You're in Sedona, get used to it, okay?

But I can't tell,

could that be something prosaic?

You know, like, what I'm...

'Cause I'm looking up

and I don't know what I'm looking at,

so I don't want to jump to those were alien spacecraft, but-

No, don't even use that word, man.

But I'm just describing what the lights did

and that was weird to me, because how is that, like,

what was the light doing, sitting there?

So still, to then, you know,

just amongst the stars and then just starts moving.

I will say, you know, you don't know how much is in the sky

until you look through something like

the night vision goggles

and you realize how many things are up there

in the sky flying around, it's insane.

Definitely saw a lot of moving lights,

but they all moved in like a similar direction,

you know, seemed like satellites or something, I don't know.

But there wasn't really anything too crazy, right?

Except for one thing I saw,

I wasn't able to capture it on camera.

I might have captured my reaction, I think, to it.

But it was so hard to film, right?

That's one thing.

Like, I can totally relate to people now

trying to film UFOs.

It's so hard, especially at night.

It's like, and I'm trying to use the iPhone

through the night vision goggles and film that.

And it was, you could get some stuff,

but it was so hard to film.

But I can tell you what I saw.

And what I saw was a light that was standing still

and then just took off.

Like it was just, I was watching another light moving

and when this light passed what looked like a star,

there was just so many lights that looked like stars,

a bunch of stars.

And I'm following this one light,

I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

And this one light that was just standing there

the whole time, just boom, takes off.

The next day I went to meet Zenka Caro.

Who I was told could help me mentally prepare

for communicating with non-human intelligence.

Hi, Zenka we got you-

Oh wow, thank you. - A little frappucino,

we stopped in... Thank you, awesome.

Hello, welcome in, welcome.

Thank you, beautiful home.

Yeah, your home is lovely.

Thank you.

I love that fireplace.

Isn't that a trip?

I love it, it's so cool.

This is beautiful.

Cool.

I would probably, if this is my house,

I'd be hanging out here the most.

What's the first thing?

Okay so we're gonna set the intentions

and get you tested and figured out

where you're at with everything.

We're actually contributing and influencing reality.

We're not just observing it.

Your consciousness is driving it.

And my goal in the next couple days

is to really submerse yourself,

submerse you into a bunch of different exercises

that you are going to start to realize

that you know things without knowing how.

You do things without knowing how.

Sure.

Because we're going to tap into your consciousness

and your intentions.

So when ETs are telepathic,

you've heard that ETs are very telepathic, right?

Yeah.

What they're doing, is they're taking

the field of consciousness

and they're in a phase coherence lock with you.

Okay.

And so that proxy alignment allows them

to be in your head, you're in theirs, right?

Okay.

Sorry about that.

Lemme lemme turn these down, otherwise-

Zenka believes she has found a way

for extraterrestrials to communicate with her

via walkie talkies.

What happens when the ETs communicate with these radios?

One radio will start talking

and none of the other radios will talk,

which is absolutely breaking the laws of physics

because I just demonstrated they're on the same channel.

You can't have, I mean, maybe one or two,

like there could be an anomaly here,

but not that everyone is separated, right?

Very interesting, right?

Yeah.

What is so bizarre is that, we think of ETs

as being like, way over there in the UFO, over there.

Yeah.

But actually, we can call them into presence.

They can...

I mean, I know from my research with this,

because we developed a yes, no answering system.

Got it, when you question... They're in my head,

you know, that they can see everything we're doing.

Fair enough.

I told Zenka about my nervousness of doing psionics.

Things that are unknown are terrifying.

Yeah.

They're terrifying to me,

they're terrifying to everyone, right?

Especially things that unhinge

the stability of your reality worldview.

Yeah, okay.

And we can go over the worst case scenarios,

which is sometimes good when you're nervous about something.

So worst case scenarios are

the ETs take us, we remember it,

and all of a sudden, like, the government's all over us,

they're killing us, I don't know.

I mean, like-

Wait, this could open them up to come in to get me.

I'm not saying that. - Oh my God.

No, no, I was just trying to-

Guys, guys, let's rethink this.

Let's-

You probably, you may have already been taken,

you just don't remember.

There's a reason why you are in this field.

Wow, that's interesting that you say that.

The reason why I wanted to go to worst case scenarios

is because there's not a lot of worst case scenarios

right now, with this topic.

Okay.

The dam has broken on this topic.

Sure.

We're not getting disclosure like we wanted to.

Okay.

But nobody's getting killed over this anymore.

I see what you mean, okay.

Right, so your life is not in danger anymore.

I'm be happy to hear that, by the way.

Yes, exactly, right?

You are gonna repeat after me.

Okay, got it. - Show me-

To better attune myself

for an encounter with aliens, Zenka gave me a pendulum.

You can look down at your pendulum

and your pendulum is going to go one way or the other.

For me, it's up and down.

It could be left to right, it could be in a circle.

So let's go ahead and ask,

is it safe for me to have an experience

that's a confirmation experience.

Is it safe for me to have a confirmation experience?

Is it safe for me to have a confirmation experience?

Yeah, you can be watching the whole time.

Oh, okay.

Okay, go ahead and say, I know how to make ET contact.

I know how to make ET contact.

I am allowed to make ET contact.

I'm allowed to make ET contact.

Okay.

Okay, we're not getting clear answers.

Am I broken?

No, no, no, no.

That's, so...

Not at all.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

Next up was remote viewing.

In remote viewing,

we talk about analytical overlays as being negative things.

So, if the target is a pyramid and you write down pyramid,

that's less advantageous than writing down

rocks, triangle, ancients, you know,

ETs, whatever, right?

You wanna, kind of, just allow it to show itself to you,

then kind of melt into it and go with your gut.

You're gonna try to resonate with it

because everything has a resonance.

This has, everything has a resonance.

So, here we go.

Okay, so I draw now, or I'm just thinking-

We're just gonna relax for a second.

Okay.

I'm gonna go ahead and send the image to you as well.

Target 001.

So go ahead and just on your paper.

Windy, humid, a lot of motion.

My picture is-

Let's see here.

I would have said on this one,

I felt almost like I was on the water.

Okay, you were on the water.

And I don't know what I was drawing,

these were just the sheets. - Windy, humid,

and what's that, motion? - Motion.

Yeah, some sort of motion, okay.

I saw, like, a kid at a baseball game

with a hat and kind of curly hair

and I just, you know, I wrote baseball, family, peanuts,

spring, morning dew.

It's like I could see the morning dew.

It's like I could zoom in on the picture

and see the field and the grass.

I felt safe.

There was an energy and excitement.

Patrick, where are you from?

Texas.

Right.

And I hate baseball, I hate baseball.

So this was your hometown,

your iconic view from the capital of Texas.

Wow.

So-

Austin. - That's right,

that this would be family, this is your home.

Yeah.

You are a Texan.

Yeah. - So am I by the way.

Yeah.

Oh okay, look at that.

And this kind of,

interesting here you've got windy, humid,

you know, it probably is

humid and windy. - That's Austin.

Yeah, there you go.

So this,

Lex and Joe Rogan.

So these are like the biggest podcasters of our time.

Interesting.

I got two people.

That's interesting. - Whoa.

And they are two people I look up to.

Whoa!

It does kind look like two sperm, let's be real.

But those are people.

Well that's a cave.

This is a cave, good job Gino!

People looking cave scene.

That's literally what you-

Lots of people said that.

I said arid, which could be the red.

Yeah, I'm looking up, like she said,

looking up at the, like, I get what you mean, yeah.

Because they're the hero, they're the famous people

of our times. - That's interesting, okay.

Oh, it's this one.

The UFO crash site of Roswell.

Towers.

- Expansive, large scenes. - There's two little, yeah.

You got the two bars, good job.

And there's the crash.

This is the UFO.

That's why I was saying, it's not an orange,

this is the UFO.

When you drew that, I was like-

I did see an orange though.

It literally looked like an orange, but I don't know,

you're right.

I saw, I don't know.

Orbs are orange by the way.

The ones the government is researching are orange

for whatever reason.

So, that's really interesting.

Alright, I was looking-

You got the lights in the mountains, that's so cool.

I know.

And it's hot, it's definitely hot in New Mexico.

What is the next one?

Five.

Oh man, wow.

You wanna go first?

So for me, I was seeing some kind of animal.

I kept seeing a wrinkly face.

A very common,

like, not a scary animal or anything like that.

But I kept seeing, like, a wrinkled face

and not exactly human, best I could say.

That was my terrible drawing of an animal.

Okay, okay, well?

I just saw, like a dark figure

and I couldn't see anything else, just like a dark figure.

And I couldn't make it out in any way.

And everything else was just kind of blurry.

Each I wrote down shadow, dark, no visual,

blurry figure, felt indoors.

Like, something was watching me.

I wasn't afraid though.

Felt cold.

Really no smell, but maybe like a metal smell or something,

I don't know.

It does, yes it does.

Interesting.

Yeah, because I did feel shadowy with this.

Right?

It's weird.

Alright.

"Just don't smile when they say you're grounded."

It is a Game Boy advertisement.

Yeah, wow Game Boy, that takes me back.

Boy, I have one of these.

I knew that.

Wow, that's interesting.

Okay, well.

So, you're indoor.

Okay, indoor.

It's shadowy and dark right here.

That's true.

It's a person, right?

So someone's playing, but you can't see them,

so they're kind of in the dark.

Well that's interesting.

You know, because, and it's kind of weird

that there's shadowy here.

You are not afraid obviously.

And then the metal is the technology, right?

It's just not a cloud, it's not a cat.

It's metal technology.

Yeah, that looks like a balloon face.

Wrinkly, you got wrinkly.

Our remote visions

were far from a hundred percent.

But I was surprised by some of our answers.

Maybe I do have more psychic ability than I thought.

Anything is possible as long as you focus on it.

I mean, anything.

Like, we have a levitation level.

So it's... To levitate things?

People levitating.

So, 'cause our mission is to make the impossible possible.

So we're in every crevice of every impossible.

Whether it's getting out of a wheelchair

or whether it's levitating. - Wow.

We find people who've done it and we ask 'em how they did.

Holy shit.

That's super interesting, the levitation, wow.

Right?

So it's whatever your, the confound of your mind can handle.

I never got a chance to see anybody levitating.

But the next day,

Zenka who says she trained with Uri Geller,

wanted to teach me to bend spoons.

Spoon bending,

you know, my expectations, first of all were to go in

and in my head I'm thinking spoon bending,

I'm thinking with the mind.

You know what I mean?

Just like in the matrix, right?

Where you just hold up the spoon

and it just bends on its own.

There is no spoon or whatever the line is.

That's in my mind when I'm imagining,

when I get invited to the spoon bending party

at Ron James' house, in Sedona, Arizona.

We are going to be calling in ETs to assist us.

This is gonna make it even easier than it already is.

We have taught hundreds and hundreds of everyday people

how to bend spoons with their mind

is actually much easier than you might think.

We are standing on the ground of scientific research.

Jack Houck taught 16,000 everyday people

how to bend spoons with their mind.

And we are going to be using his technique.

His technique is to cause chaos in the environment.

Because it's going to turn off your brain.

Okay.

Because when you have so many inputs,

she's screaming, John's jumping.

I'm going, oh my God, I'm throwing something in your face.

You're like, oh my God,

and at some point you're just, like, what?

And your body takes over, your energetic field takes over.

You allow the ET to help you do this, right?

So, you get outta the way and-

And everyone there had either done it a couple times

or there was a few people

that had never done it before either.

In fact, Ron James, that was his first time

to do spoon bending, right there, with us.

So this is what we're gonna do.

We're going to get permission from our subconscious mind

to bend the spoon, right?

So you always wanna,

your life will really take off

once you get your conscious mind

together with your subconscious mind on the same train

going the same direction.

Rachel's gonna teach us how to use the pendulum.

And you're going to say, "Will you bend for me today?"

And if it says yes, you're good.

If it says no, you go get something else, okay?

So, go get your spoons

and then we'll have Rachel show us.

Two and three.

How many?

You're gonna get

four forks, two spoons, and one spoon from there.

Not gonna know when it's happened.

So mine might go right away.

Rachel's might go after a minute.

Hers might go before we even start.

Yours might take two minutes.

Once you let that command go,

it's just a matter of, kind of,

waiting till it happens, right?

1, 2, 3.

Bend, bend

bend, bend, bend, bend.

Bend, come on now.

It's getting warm over here, very, very hot over here.

So good! - Bend, bend!

Good job!

Wow, holy shit.

Look at the shape of that,

and then the second one, when everybody else was bending

I picked up a second one and then I just wrote,

you just feel the moment,

it's like, it becomes pliable in a way that you...

That's not a physical force.

Physical force can't-

There's no way

you could do that with your hands.

Right.

There's no way.

But it just becomes like Play-Doh almost.

And you can just rotate it.

This is so good, oh my god that's like the best!

That's so crazy.

Good one Ron.

Huh?

Good one, what happened for you?

Yeah, there was just this moment that came

when I knew it had a certain flexibility

and I just barely touched it.

And it did bend, I didn't have to force it.

Like right now, I would have to really push it,

but it didn't do that.

Yeah, so it will lock in place.

Now I am using-

It's so pliable.

It will not move, I cannot get this to move.

That's using all my strength.

So it's like, it goes into this.

It's a five-

And that one is like, full spin-around.

You did it.

Oh my God, oh my God!

He did it. - What?

I didn't bend any.

Because what turns out is that,

you actually just use your muscles to bend it.

Like you grab it with your hand and bend it.

So I'm like, wait,

I thought thought we're doing it with our mind.

So, I don't know.

I don't know what to make of that, right?

See that?

That was flickering earlier.

Yeah, that's a sign.

Yeah, yeah, that's them, they're here.

Even if you could do it with your muscles,

it's quite impressive.

So, I don't know.

I mean I saw women bending, you know,

the spoon, like, multiple times.

And again, in a way that I thought, oh that's crazy.

I mean even the hard part of the spoon,

bending that in half.

Close your eyes and this is where

we're going to make that connection.

And the ET is gonna help you

actually match the resonance of the forks now.

And it's almost like a plasma ball,

you're seeing the connection.

It's almost going from, I see it from my heart

to their heart, to ET's heart.

From the ET's heart actually to the forks.

At the very end,

we tried something where you did it with your mind

and it was a fork,

and it was just the little tips of the fork,

would just do just, I mean just a, like, the fork would,

I don't even know.

Do you see that?

It's both.

Good job.

This was straight when I started.

Very good.

Cool little something. - Very good.

That is-

The two middle ones are-

Spin it around.

Bent out.

And that was without touch.

And I never... You could see.

And I never touched it with both hands, it just fell over.

Here, come here.

I put a little pressure on it, but not enough to bend.

Look at his, look at his.

Look at that, what did you feel?

Look at that, I broke my fork.

Good, what did you feel?

What was happening for you?

Turn it around so we can see, good.

Gratitude and love.

And didn't-

You were in gratitude and love.

I highly recommend, just go try it for yourself.

That's the best way to find out.

And maybe it's for you, maybe I just wasn't aligned for it.

I don't know.

So, Zenka sent this to me.

Well,

I don't know.

Did you get a message in that?

Yeah, I mean, no I didn't hear anything she said.

The transmission is addressed

to the Galactic Federation of Worlds

and all friendly civilizations

from the fifth dimension and above

who are willing to make contact with mankind.

Okay, and so-

So in that transmission I think was this message.

So that transmission was out?

They put it out for us.

Okay.

This guy, John, that we're gonna see later today in Zenka.

Okay.

I don't really know what to make of it to be honest.

Having broadcast the message to the universe,

Zenka came up with a plan to drive us

to a cosmically special area to practice psionics.

She also wanted us to meet her friend, Benjamin Lovetree.

They kicked me out of there 15 years ago.

The black ops helicopter, twice.

And then they finally showed up in person.

Oh no, you can't record any of this, none of it.

Nothing?

Not anything on the government.

Because I have an epic-

Turn it off.

Yeah, turn it off for a second.

See my leg?

That's radiation.

Radiation?

I got burned three years ago out there on the ranch.

How?

Oh wow.

Just walking in the back area

and walking around.

You know John Foulkes says he got hit

with an energy weapon back here.

This is a, dude, look at the hole here.

I'm finally getting it to heal, that's where they hit me.

Oh, look at that.

So I've seen your videos and I'm going,

I like what he's doing.

Appreciate it.

Too many people, you know, they want that wow factor

and you're putting it right out there.

Well the thing is, our wow factor is the stories

rather than, you know, I don't...

We never, it's not like I expect to,

like you said, catch a Big Foot on video.

I care more about...

Well I think both of us care more about

hearing your story rather than, you know,

getting lucky enough to catch something sensational.

Yeah.

And it's like I was telling Zenka,

I built the device now,

I can go out there and open up that portal at will.

And I mean at will and have entities come through it.

That's why the government hybrid showed up

last time we did that.

They knew I opened it.

So, and why I'm very cautious is,

they know what I'm capable of doing.

I don't want to become a higher target.

Look at view.

Bradshaw Ranch sits about 12 miles

west of Sedona.

The land itself once hosted a homestead, circa 1920.

And an adobe house from that era still stands.

In 1960, Bob Bradshaw, Hollywood stunt man, bought the ranch

and used it as a film and TV location.

In the early 1990s, Bob and his wife Linda reported orbs,

bright lights, unusual aerial phenomena,

beings and dimensional anomalies in the area.

This area has been known for portal activity

for a lot longer than just since Bob Bradshaw's been here.

The Hopi originally knew about them

and they used to use them.

Who said that?

That was like-

Again, I gotta say,

I know it sounds weird to a lot of people.

I'm connected.

And I'm connected because I've interacted with them

over six times now.

They're three to four feet tall.

They're almost like children.

And when we were standing in there,

I could hear, feel them say, "Are we going to play tonight?

Are we playing?"

And that tall being,

the tall entity that it did manage to image once

that thing is like seven feet tall

and it radiates authority.

It's like, I'm in charge.

And it watches over the little

three to four foot tall beings like a hawk.

Okay, so-

We are gonna go ahead...

It says, this transmission is addressed

to the Galactic Federation of Worlds

and all friendly civilizations

from the fifth dimension and above,

who are willing to make contact with mankind

in universal peace.

We welcome you to manifest your presence and energy

in the sky and on the ground,

in a way that is safe and appropriate.

Humbly requesting technological assistance

to relay this invitation message to cosmic friends.

Welcoming your protection

and your love from the ambassadors of Earth,

continuing planetary advancement.

Okay.

Now you can just be in your body,

like, make sure you can feel your body,

'cause you're gonna just open your senses

and you're gonna allow that message to reverberate.

My ears are ringing like nuts.

I am getting dizzy.

Something's up.

Just blink-

Okay, that's a power up then.

Holy cow!

That just moved, I saw that. - Thank you.

I acknowledge you, thank you.

Yeah, I'm getting goosebumps.

Oh my God. - Thank you.

It was brighter than anything else.

And the way we stand it turned on,

if you were tracking something underneath it.

Yeah.

This one right here?

Yeah, yeah, right there, right there.

I don't think I've ever seen Gino

that excited ever, about anything.

I know it had me-

Two people... Yeah, I missed it.

Two people at once,

and if I wouldn't have had this laser,

we wouldn't have been looking at the same spot in the sky.

We would've been going, oh, oh, you know?

So, it just so happened that that the laser

we were looking at something else,

moving, again, probably a satellite

that was right underneath it.

But then something just went brighter than any star

that I could see in the sky right now.

Went on and then off.

It kind of, that's how they show themselves, right?

So it wasn't a light that moved,

it was just a light that flashed.

And when it went in and out.

Super bright.

Yeah, really bright. - Super bright.

Like it, like it turned on

and got brighter for one second-

Yeah.

And then just disappeared,

just disappeared as fast.

So it wasn't like, like you'd see a flash cube,

where the light just radiates out.

It was literally a flash contained within a very small area.

Like, you know, at its maximum

it looked like a super bright star.

But it wasn't, like, radiating light outwards.

I see what you're saying.

One time we saw eight of them right here.

Okay, here's one right there, right above me here.

Look, I got one right here.

If you wanna call them an exploding star, you can,

but I know what I saw.

You will find if you come out here

and we do this.

I don't know I have the words for it.

You kind of become in tune with each other.

You can feel them.

Well, it's the same thing with having

babies and having sex.

You're always going to be entangled with someone

that you have exchanged.

You can, you feel their emotions.

I have no other way to describe it.

It was a powerful night.

There did seem to be some strange things happening,

but I'll be honest,

I didn't emotionally connect with any aliens.

Not long after, my friend Clint told me he tried psionics

while walking his dog

and did experience a connection with ETs.

So, in my head, I felt so silly doing it at the time,

but in my head I just went, I'm ready to see something.

If you're willing to show it to me, I'm open.

I just wanna see what you are, you know, show me something.

It was basically, if I could sum it up,

and that was the thought I was putting out,

just show me something.

And I'm walking with my dog

and I get to the end of the block and I look up

and there are these orange lights that are just drifting

above the tree line.

And I looked at it and for a second I thought,

oh, it's just a plane or something.

And then I saw there was a little group of them

and they're moving along.

And I get my phone out

and I'm standing on the sidewalk.

I'm holding my dog, I'm shooting video of the sky.

People are walking by me and driving by

and they're looking like, what is this guy looking at?

And I'm looking up at this.

And for about three minutes these little things were

just drifting by.

And then another one would come out and it would drift by

and then the other ones would float up

and they would drift off and disappear.

And then another one would come out.

And it was the craziest thing.

I don't know what it was, I can't tell you,

but it seemed to happen right at the time

that I was putting that thought out there,

and it blew my mind.

Love it.

Clint's story made me wonder

how many more people are out there communicating

with extraterrestrials.

So I put out a call on "Vetted" and got a bunch of emails.

One of the most interesting people who got in contact

with me was a guy called Paul Oglesby from Miami,

who claimed to have had a number of UFO experiences.

He told me he used to be a drug addict

and spent time in jail,

but his life was turned around when he saw a UFO.

He says he now summons orbs all the time.

He sent me some videos.

Ooh!

Oh my God.

Okay, oh!

But being someone who needs to see

and feel it for myself,

I took a trip to Florida to meet him and his son in person.

We hung in their backyard and did some psionics.

I mean, it was right where I was staring too, you know?

So I got like a perfect view of it.

It's not like I had to, it wasn't in the corner of my eye.

Huh.

Well, that's something I've learned in this-

Oh, I just got one.

I just got a streaker.

Straight down?

Yep.

Not to do that.

Got a streaker here too, guys.

Oh, that's a plane.

Like, hey guys, not right now, right?

Like, right in our way here.

You know, that's something I learned along the journey was

the equipment I needed.

Gino and I realized real quick when we got to Sedona

and we started doing stuff, we were like, oh dudes,

I'm ill-equipped for this.

Like, you know, it's just, kind of,

honestly part of the journey.

Because you're not gonna see a streaker

and then catch it.

If you see it, but it's too late by the time,

you know what I mean?

So I usually just be filming in one spot,

looking for like a orb that comes by slowly.

And then the streakers will go in front of it.

Or sometimes they'll just show up with no orb.

I totally understand

how hard it is to record this stuff.

Like, I get it now.

I think people need to try it so that they understand that

and can be a little more sympathetic to video

and stuff that comes out

and really hear the person's account.

Because, seeing it in person

and then seeing it on video, it's not even, yeah,

it's not even close to the same experience.

The emotions don't flow through the video.

Not at all, no.

Just not even close, just not even close.

Did you see something?

I saw something that

above four or seven that was flash

I was.

Hit the record, hit the record right there.

That's moving right above us.

You see that?

If that's moving.

Right in between the cloud?

Yeah, that's moving.

Good.

Okay.

Oh, definitely, I followed it moving.

It's moving.

To have that is so high, there's no way that's a plane.

Are y'all seeing that, are y'all getting that?

This one here?

Oh man, I hope here it comes.

I didn't even see it.

There it is, right there.

Boom.

All right, I'm recording it.

One guy we were with at Bradshaw

said the alien's there.

Like, he's like, there's grays here, I can see them.

Like, we were like, oh sure.

I met him and he was talking to them.

I don't know, you know.

Was he saying they were like,

interdimensional and that's why he could see 'em?

You know, I can't remember.

But he definitely explained.

See, he talked a lot, but-

He is fine.

Yeah, that probably was-

The only time I've ever heard them talk

is in my head, I don't know.

That's what he said too.

He said he was communicating with them telepathically, but-

When I first had my experience,

like the,

when I got taken on a ship when I was homeless,

and I came back on the beach

to like a quarter and everything.

Like I thought-

You left-

Yeah.

and came back.

Yeah.

Physically or you're not sure.

Just, at least, mentally for sure.

Mentally, for sure.

Mentally for sure, 'cause it was like,

when the second orb or UFO, no matter where I walked,

it stayed, like, the same 15 feet up in the air

and 10 feet away or 10 yards away.

It stayed that same distance.

I couldn't get closer left or right to it.

It stayed a little off to the right.

But then when I stopped and I was just staring at it,

'cause it was covered in glass.

It was like a white, three white plates

attached at the bottom.

I'm like, how the hell is this thing

floating in the air right now?

And this must have been like at two in the morning.

And the next thing I remember was the sun was coming up.

Boom, I remember three flashes.

I was standing in a big black room,

there was a little light on a table glowing

and couldn't see anything else.

No windows, nothing.

And then I heard a voice behind me say,

concentrate, focus on the light.

I was like, holy shit.

I feel like I'm a piece of, I'm a small piece of everything

or I am actually everything.

And then I was like, oh shit, like, I know all this stuff.

I know all this, the whole universe is alive.

I've seen the whole like world alive.

Did you just see that Patrick?

No.

You didn't see it?

Oh my God, I just saw-

Without like, hard-

Paul Junior's girlfriend, Emily joined us,

gave me her views on Paul Senior's experiences.

He came back and started saying these things

and I was like, at first I really, really was like,

just obviously overly excited for him

that they were able to reconnect and just, the whole thing.

But had obviously my skepticism

and like, my own reasoning to be like, alright,

what is he talking about right now?

And I think the first, even the first couple times I saw it,

like, your mind wants to go to the place that's like,

that's a plane or that's a this or that's a that.

But I mean, I've seen these things behave in, like,

I really don't, like, I've seen these things behave in

like, ways that I don't think I can explain.

Did you-

Like, they feel like,

fragments of, like, just they look

and they feel like something that has a mind of its own.

These specific light beings I do feel have had impacts

through prayer, through experiences,

through, like, connections

that we've made with other people.

Just in general, these beings, when you do pray to them,

or not even, I wouldn't even use the word pray to them,

'cause I know that can get, like, misconstrued.

But when you do, like, I guess talk to them

is more so what I would say, or like,

there's a separate connection outside of, like,

like your connection with, my personal connection,

like, with God or with the Creator.

Like, outside of that, there's these beings.

So I don't know if it's, like,

it's definitely my mind has ran all this-

Possibilities. - Possibilities.

And it definitely,

I would say the closest thing

that they feel like to me, is angels.

Something... Angels from-

I think it's intelligent beings

sent from the creator,

rather than from another planet or from something.

It doesn't necessarily have to be

rooted in faith or religion,

but it's an experience that you're having

that's outside of the human experience itself.

So like, it's something that you're feeling

that either a lot of people feel woken, why?

A lot of people feel a sense of connection, why?

I mean-

Look, one thing I know is that,

I know that what happened to me was real.

Definitely I feel that these beings

are not showing themselves for no reason.

I think whatever it is that this

that is happening, is definitely happening for a reason,

positive, 100% sure.

And I think that they know, the beings know

what they're doing and they know when to appear

and how it's gonna make you feel in that exact moment.

Moment, yeah.

And they either do it or not.

I don't know, it's like,

I don't know if they're really seeing anything.

It seems like a lot of, you know,

just light, shooting stars, bugs.

I think they're seeing bugs in the night vision

and confusing that for UFOs,

they have these things called streakers,

which are just, like, satellites that happens.

These satellites, you can only see 'em for a second.

But anyway, I think really it's just that

the father and son, it's just how they connect.

They connect through this phenomena.

In his words, right, it was his own words.

He was a big piece of shit to his family

for the longest time, right?

And finally shows up and starts talking about aliens, right?

They probably would've never come together without this.

They needed something to bond them

because the son was at the point of suicide,

didn't even wanna live.

And then I guess the bigger question becomes,

does that matter?

They're not hurting anybody.

Does it matter that they believe in this?

Does it matter that they look at a light in the sky

and think, oh that's, you know,

God talking to me, or aliens, or whatever,

right, does that matter?

I don't know.

That's probably the bigger question about all this.

Does it matter what people believe?

A lot of people go into this type of thing

for the first time, and even like later people,

they don't really appreciate the amount of human made stuff

that's actually up in the sky.

And so, they go into these situations

wanting to see something.

And this not only to, like, people who attend these events,

but also the summoners themselves.

I mean, I don't think everybody who's doing this

is lying or hoaxing.

I mean, sure there's probably some of that,

but a lot of these people genuinely think

that they can summon craft.

And it reminds me of, like, an old thing goes back

hundreds of years called cloud bursting,

which is kind of like, you know,

it's almost like a game children do.

You lie on your back in the field

and you look up a cloud and you say,

I'm gonna make that cloud disappear,

or I'm gonna make that cloud grow.

And you know, clouds naturally, kind of, like,

they turn over a lot.

You watch time, lots of them,

and they're always growing and they're always disappearing.

And so you kind of remember the hits

and you forget the misses and you think to yourself,

oh, I'm actually doing this to these clouds.

And it's very easy to, kind of, fool yourself

to think that something's actually going on,

when what you're just seeing is just a normal thing

that you haven't been looking at before.

The whole idea of psionics

was becoming more fascinating.

I needed to dig deeper.

I found a guy called Carl Crusher,

in his videos, he spoke about his form of psionics

which he argues is like remote viewing, in reverse.

Reverse remote viewing.

And how it works is instead of,

like, trying to perceive a distant location

like, Skinwalker Ranch,

instead what we do, is we send out

our current location right here

with all of the surroundings, like a psychic beacon,

like a telepathic beacon into outer space

that penetrates up into the quantum realm

and into parallel dimensions.

So what you do is you turn

that remote viewing process backwards or inside out.

And you imagine, like,

where you're standing in this location,

like tonight, where we're in this canyon

with the mesa here surrounded in this open desert area

with the beautiful sky.

And we're gonna zoom out and fly up into space

and penetrate our psychic energy

with that visualization out

into the other dimensions around us.

And then anything that's capable of listening to that

or picking up that signal, if it's UFO, UAP,

some non-human intelligence or higher dimensional life

or something like that,

if they perceive that with good integrity,

that's how Chris Bledsoe does it,

that's how Jake Barber

and his team of psionics claim that they do it.

And these are, like, people who have been to NASA,

they're Green beret, Delta force operators,

and they're saying that's how they do it.

So basically we're gonna meditate,

we're gonna visualize our exact location and where we're at,

and then we're gonna project that image

bigger and bigger and bigger.

And we're gonna zoom it out with like a pin,

right where we're at, with a broadcast signal,

like, here we are.

Carl posted this video after doing meditation.

I've been sitting up here on the Crystal Mountain,

meditating, feeding the raven.

And there is a tic-tac.

That is not a star, that is something in the sky hovering.

It looks like a big fuselage of a plane, but bigger.

Ultimately, in psionics,

the goal is to basically communicate

with some kind of an object that we would call,

like a UAP or a UFO,

some kind of a phenomenon that appears in reality.

And to say that it comes from outer space, I don't know,

it's more like, you know,

like in cartoons when they draw cartoons,

like a Wile E. coyote can just, like, pull a hammer

out of thin air from behind his back.

And in cartoons and animation, they call that hammer space.

Like, animated objects can just manifest

anything into reality out of thin air, like the superpower.

And these UFOs and these objects, sort of,

come out of the ether,

almost like, reality is made of consciousness, you know?

So you're like,

you're meditating and you're communicating

with your surroundings and your environment.

And then there's sort of this coherence

that occurs where your mind and the universe

are resonating at this really high level.

And then you look up and there's something there.

Let's say hypothetically we were to hang out

and like, you know, hang out for a few days

and maybe try some of this stuff.

And wherever you felt most comfortable,

we would go and try some of these things.

Do you think I would have experiences

being with you?

You think I would?

Yeah, I think, just,

I mean if you really were sincere about it, you know,

if your intentions were right, if you were genuine,

there's definitely some places that I could take you

that, like, when you really fathomed

what the place was like,

I could, like, let you sit on a particular rock

and leave you there alone for a while

and you would definitely come home with some experiences

or seeing some things.

Wow.

Yeah, some ancient sacred sites

that are known for this, yeah.

A few weeks later I found myself in Utah,

hiking in the Mojave Desert with Carl.

Gino also tagged along.

Carl wanted to take us

to an ancient site on the Anasazi trail.

The rocks were covered in petroglyphs

drawn by ancestral pueblos who used to live here

over a thousand years ago.

Here you go.

Oh shit, this is all ancient glyphs

and rock art.

I do see 'em.

Wow.

Yeah.

Dude, what does that look like?

You see the different types

and that's like a figure with arms and legs,

with three legs, or a long sash,

or a male phallus, you know,

and there's like this headdress with the box on top.

And then here's a figure as well.

Another one right here almost looks like it has a hat on

with some kind of... Some here too.

Yeah. - Some lines.

These tribal lines and energetic lines.

So this is a datura flower and plant.

This is a psychoactive deliriant.

Oh wow.

So if you process this plant,

like, into a tea or smoke it,

you will see shadow people

and not fun ones.

Yeah, not fun ones.

No, it's like, not a good one.

But it was used in rituals that the Paiute would do.

Oh, there it comes.

See how that light,

the shadow comes down, replicates like a ridge line?

Like, they're coming from the sky.

So here's some more spiral glyph.

If you jump down here and sit low

and look this way, then you're looking right at that mesa,

which is where all the weird lights appear at night.

Like, balls of light come out of the ground over here

and appear on the side of that mountain.

See it all.

Whole figure with a spiral.

And then... Oh wow, yeah.

And then there's like two little footprints

or things coming down or out of the spiral,

but it's got, like, three toes.

And notice how they all have three toes and three fingers

and their arms were all like that

with his trapezoid heads, you know?

See the one here and one here.

And it's like they're coming out of like a portal

or they're here at a specific spot.

Have more here, and you'd say,

well those look like footprints,

but then count how many toes there are.

It's a lot of toes.

Seven, you know?

Just a lot of strange energetic symbols.

Like they're trying to say, tell you something happened

or convey some kind of a message.

That's hard to tell, you know?

Yeah.

Well here, we're not done yet.

There's still a lot more,

there's a whole other main petroglyph panel up here

you guys haven't even seen yet.

So, does that look like a person or what is that?

Why do they get up there and do it there?

Yeah, just petroglyphs everywhere around here.

Step around the corner and see this side of it.

This is the main story.

Look, yeah.

How many of them look like normal people?

Yeah, none of these look like normal people.

They look like non-humans.

Yeah.

Like, why draw 'em like that?

Why not draw 'em like them?

They're not like, it's not like they carved

a regular day-to-day life.

They were carving something, phenomenal thing, you know?

Do you think that they were, like,

interacting with, you know, these beings, like,

just on a daily basis is why they drew so much?

That's why they're everywhere.

I think, I think it's possible that that's that whole,

the ancient aliens myth is just like,

there was a time where those worlds

were not as divided or something.

Correct. - Or who knows?

Or they were just more aware of that.

This right here is the shaman seat.

After hours of hiking,

we came to what Carl called the shaman seat.

A place he says is perfect for meditating, summoning orbs.

I will say it feels very relaxed here, very comfortable.

There's not a lot of places to get comfortable up here.

And this is definitely a place that feels comfortable.

And I could definitely see in the morning,

the sunrise coming up there,

especially with those symbols there, like,

it must've been a whole thing.

Watch the sun, look at those symbols,

you know, take the whole thing in.

I had watched Carl's meditation videos

and he gave me some tips.

So I tried it myself.

I did feel something sitting in that seat.

I felt some sort of interesting energy.

I don't know how to describe it.

Just, my body felt different.

I don't know if energy's the right word,

but I did feel different there.

Now granted, the sun's right on me, I know.

But oddly enough,

is that I didn't feel the heat of the sun.

We were in the sun all day and it was hot.

And then there I felt cooler, surprising.

I mean, that sounds so weird to say,

but that's the truth.

I sort of cooled down sitting on the seat

and was able to, sort of, concentrate

and, I don't know, felt some, felt different.

Unfortunately, despite feeling something,

nothing appeared in the sky.

But Carl posted a video a few weeks later saying his footage

became corrupted.

Something really strange happened

to my video recording

during this entire stretch of the filming process.

So right when Patrick sat down on the shaman seat,

the raw video and the camera footage

of my 360 camera completely glitched.

And even the audio file

at that moment when he was talking

and said that he felt an energy go through him

while he is sitting on the shaman seat,

the audio completely cut out during the filming

of that entire scene.

And what's strange is that for some reason,

the audio of Patrick talking about everything

that happened to him while he is sitting on the shaman seat,

it suddenly shows up later,

like two or three minutes later underneath a different video

or part of the video clip.

And I don't know how to explain that.

That night Carl told me more

about his views on psionics.

And it's literally almost like you're in a dream

and you realize that you're dreaming

and you imagine hard enough

and the thing that you're imagining appears,

but you don't realize you're the one doing it.

You don't think that craft is alive then?

It's all alive.

So I mean, if it's made of your own subconscious

that came out of,

So then... It's not alien-

Then it's it's literally just a piece of you.

Yeah, exactly.

So do you think when you do psionics

and you go out, you think you'll just seeing

a piece of your own consciousness?

Yeah, oh yeah.

Wow, I've never heard this before.

The the deepest level of psionics

is looking in the mirror.

Wow.

I mean, you're going through,

when they talk about the gateway process

that the psionics does,

those gateways are literally doorways within your own light.

Right, so tell me what you think oof Carl Crusher today.

I like Carl a lot.

He's the type of guy that you could hang out with

regardless of the topic being summoning or not.

I think what's interesting about Carl

is his theory about what the phenomena is.

He thinks it's just you, you're your own phenomena.

Whatever phenomena you see is just you.

The phenomena you see is you, Carl's phenomena is him.

My phenomena is me, and that's individual throughout.

There is no alien per se, there is no non-human entity.

It's like our consciousness.

I don't know, I just never heard anybody say that.

But he believes in summoning orbs out and crap.

But it's just a version of yourself.

Right.

A slice of you up in the sky that comes out.

And I don't know, you know,

for everything I could see,

for everything I don't see

how that's the case for some things,

yes, what's the difference?

But not for, can it be for everything?

Has that really been thought out?

Good job.

The next evening we returned to the valley

to do some night psionics.

At Skinwalker Ranch,

the first time that I went there,

I saw a whole shadow figure that came along the fence line

right up to me, that I thought was a cow.

And then it stood up tall like a person,

and then it crouched down like a small figure

on the other side of a fence.

And then, as soon as that happened,

it's like, I tried to find my night vision camera

in my backpack and I couldn't find it.

It's like I forgot my night vision.

I tried to find my flashlight.

I couldn't find my flashlight, it's like I got all confused.

And so, I just had this little black light that I found.

So I started trying to walk up towards it.

And then I get up towards this, like,

black shadow thing on the other side of the fence,

and it just, like, disappears.

Like, as I get close to it, there's just like nothing there.

And then I go back to my backpack

and, well, this is weird that there's a car here.

I go back to my truck and back to my backpack

and suddenly there's my night vision, there's my flashlight

and I find everything in my backpack right where it was.

I had bizarre nightmares, like, all night.

Like, imagine someone interrogating you.

Like imagine a dozen people asking you

questions all at once.

Like, who are you?

Where did you come from, where you're going?

It was like, I was dreaming a million thoughts

at once like that.

Like somebody asking me a thousand questions over and over.

Oh, they're in fucking there.

Hey buddy, they're fucking.

Good vibes tonight on the Anasazi Trail.

You straight up caught an X-rated scene there.

He turned up and made eye contact.

After our unexpected encounter,

We took a walk so Carl could show us a stone circle

that he claims is a spiritual hotspot.

And so, it's not pointing straight north anymore.

It's pointing like, where straight north would've been

before it wobbled or moved.

So it's like an old medicine wheel.

Carl started meditating

and Gino and I scanned the sky.

Focus.

Red light. - Whoa!

Oh shit.

You see that one?

Yeah, I caught that on this.

That was amazing, dude.

Oh, we caught that?

Amazing.

Perfect. - Yeah,

the tail end of it,

like, going into, behind the mesa.

Amazing.

You'll have to slow that down

and see if it was, like, making turns.

There was some sort of green light.

It had a glow, like a color on its tail.

Dude, that was so cool, you know?

There's two moving,

they're moving in, like, unison.

I swear to God they're separated,

but they're moving at the same speed.

I see this one.

And then, right diagonally to it,

there's another one.

Down or up.

I can't see where your laser point is at.

There's two right here, I'm tracking 'em right in of me.

That's crazy, there's two going together.

I'm glad at least you saw that,

'cause you kind of know what to look for

and you'll see it appear.

It glowed, that whole valley lit up.

Yeah.

That was weird.

I mean, there's definitely

lights happening tonight.

I just, man it appeared

right when I started meditating again though.

So I gotta keep, I get excited when we're all filming

and then I pull out of it.

Okay, I'm gonna meditate again here.

Oh shit.

Look at that, look at that light!

I do see that.

It looks like it's on fire, like a alcohol vapor.

Why is this not catching it?

It's not light, it looks like smoke.

Right?

Can I put my laser?

I'm so glad you guys saw that.

Dude, I've brought people here and we've sat here all night

and not seen anything before,

and you guys both saw that though.

Frustratingly, I could see the lights

with my eyes, but my camera wasn't picking them up.

As soon as we started meditating again.

Now I gotta try again, all right?

So I saw some shooting stars

and some other strange lights.

But I have to admit,

the most memorable moment was the unexpected

human encounter at the start.

I mean, amazing.

We are never gonna see

something like that again in our lives.

Out of everything, we're down here trying to do

and see, it's like so ironic.

I just was not expecting-

Our first encounter is definitely it.

It was great to hang out with Carl

and my chats with him really got me thinking

about the nature of consciousness.

I spoke to Michael Philip Nelson,

who thinks psionics is our brain

tuning itself into a universal consciousness channel

Here I've never, you know,

had a full on psionics experience

that produced a UFO/UAP, whatever you wanna call it.

But my own experiences with consciousness,

the most profound ones, they're all like that.

It's just like, you are it, and it is you

and it's just this whole,

consuming kind of experience.

Had, not a lot,

but I've had a relative amount of experiences

that are consciousness based experiences,

where I felt like I was connecting

to either external energy or an actual external presence.

Like a lot of this of course included,

like, psychedelic molecules.

But, as you know, I also went to Monroe Institute

and had an out of body experience

that was truly shocking to me.

So-

Of course.

I think all of these things are in the same arena.

Like, we don't learn anything about our consciousness,

how to tune our consciousness, how to use it,

what it's capable of.

It's just, it's like, it doesn't even exist

unless you, personally,

later in life go down these rabbit holes.

Or you're naturally born with some kind of gift

where you're having weird shit happen to you

or psychic stuff happen to you from a young age.

Like, most people just act like it isn't there.

And to me it's the most profound,

interesting mystery about life that there is,

is like, what is consciousness?

Because I think that's the root mystery

of all of this stuff.

Like UFOs, UAPs, everything we've talked about,

it all seems to happen within consciousness.

No, I agree.

And it is fascinating and no one has that answer.

That's why dismissing really anything is,

you can't really, genuinely, I think it's very disingenuous.

'cause how can, if we don't understand consciousness,

how can you dismiss certain things?

Now you may be able to say there's no evidence of that

right now that I see,

but to just dismiss any of this outright

as it's not possible at all, seems disingenuous,

if we don't know what we don't know.

The human brain is the most complex structure

in the known universe,

and we are still near the start at knowing

how it works and what it can do.

As for Skywatcher, I did hear from Jake Barber.

He declined to be interviewed at this time,

but I did get to chat to Mike Battista,

he's one of the guys in their videos

they call a psionics asset.

He couldn't tell me anything of his work at Skywatcher

because of an NDA.

I can't answer any questions about Skywatcher at all.

You know, especially if it's phrased in the question.

But he was able to talk

more generally about psionics.

I think everyone, every human has the ability

to use their mind and maybe see things that aren't there

or, you know, pick up on signals like a receiver of,

you know, a total new area of science.

It's like, I say it all the time, I'm sure this,

you know, your best friend, you know,

you might be thinking of 'em

and all of a sudden they call,

that's like the regular, that happens to everybody.

That's a glimpse into psionics I believe so.

How does it work exactly, you think?

For me now, since, you know,

I've have so much experience in it,

it's kind of just, like, phoning a friend, you know?

I'll have a thought, you know,

and try to project a thought out to a being

that I'm familiar with

and they seem to be able to pick up the signal.

Wow, I mean,

God, that, I guess that's the first time I've heard that,

that you're able to sort of, yeah, like you said,

phone up a friend.

It's not, you're not,

because anytime we did it, you know,

even with Carl, I did with Carl, right.

We just, when I was doing it, I'm just thinking out.

I'm just sending a signal out.

It's not to anyone in particular, so yeah.

Do you trust it?

Is that a weird question to ask?

No, it's kind of, you know, you put the message out there

and you know when they're gonna come and they do.

And they haven't really let me down in that aspect.

So, I've had a lot of faith

and trust in these encounters.

It really is something unique

that I'm grateful to be a part of.

Wow, I mean, my goodness.

What does it feel like when you connect

with an alien force?

And do you think it's alien?

I mean, I guess I'm kind of a,

it's kind of a leading question, isn't it?

Like, would we even call it alien?

I think it's a mixed bag.

You know, I think there's definitely some exotic,

non-human intelligence interacting with,

you know, planet Earth.

And I think there's, you know,

humans with similar technology doing similar stuff.

So, the feeling when I connect,

I'm not one to go into like a deep meditative state.

You know, I do focus on breathing

and there's certain things that I'll do leading up

to an encounter.

Like, I'll fast for a couple days before,

you know, something happens

and we go out into the stars.

But it's just like talking to you right now.

There's no, I guess, I guess now,

I mean I've had sensations where, like, you know,

that loving feeling that just kind of gets thrown onto,

you're like, oh, I haven't even felt

something like that before.

But it's just very casual now.

Because what Carl had said to me in Utah

was so fascinating.

I remember Gino and I talking about it.

I asked him, you know,

same question I asked everyone,

which is like, what do you think this is, right?

Like, what do you think this phenomena is?

And Carl had such an interesting answer

and I would love to hear your opinion on it.

I'm sure he is told you, right?

He thinks it's a manifestation of ourselves.

Like what we see is just a manifestation of ourselves.

My take on it at this point right now,

is I think they are deliberately

trying to get the public's attention.

I don't think it's just one species of them doing it.

I think they're all fighting for our attention right now

because I think in our lifetime,

hopefully I could play my part in it,

we will see that bridge between non-human intelligence

and humans being, you know, crossed and integrated

and hopefully become part of a bigger community

that'll, you know, help push humanity to the next level.

UFOs, consciousness, the mind,

I'm sure at this point in the documentary

you're asking yourself, so Patrick, what do you think?

Is it all bullshit?

Right?

Well, when I started this documentary,

the idea of psionics

and the ability to communicate with your mind,

especially with aliens,

I have to admit it seemed like absolute horseshit.

But then I started to meet people

and learn about consciousness in the mind.

And I started to maybe believe it a little bit more.

You know, I think there might be something to this,

I'm not entirely convinced,

but the pendulum has shifted.

I think this is a personal journey.

You're gonna have to decide for yourself.

And mostly what I recommend is that you give it a try,

try it for yourself.

This is something you don't need anyone help with.

You can do this on your own.

You can try to mentally connect with this phenomena

that's out there and see what happens.

Right?

And as for me, well, with your help and support,

I plan to keep investigating this

because the implications this has for humanity,

and not to sound dramatic here,

but, it could change the world.