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I'm a licensed sex therapist
MY THOUGHTS AREN'T ON GETTING HOME
IT'S JUST ACHES AN PAIN
DENISE IS A MACHINE.
IF YOU DO VOTE ME OUT
TONIGHT, YOU WILL GIVE A MILLION
DOLLARS TO ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.
THEY CANNOT BEAT DENISE.
CONGRATULATIONS DENISE.
ANYTHING THAT WILL GET ME TO
THE END OF THE GAME, WILL BE ME.
DENISE WINS
INDIVIDUAL IMMUNITY.
I AM ONE STUBBORN, DETERMINED
WOMAN.
WE ARE LIVE IN CBS
TELEVISION CITY, LOS ANGELES,
WHERE DENISE, WITH TEARS IN YOUR
EYES, JUST WON A MILLION
DOLLARS.
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU
SO I KNOW FROM
HEARING FROM PEOPLE ON THE
STREET DURING THE SEASON THAT A
LOT OF FANS SAW YOU AS AN
UNDERDOG.
DID YOU TRULY BELIEVE YOU WERE
AN UNDERDOG?
ABSOLUTELY.
YES.
100%.
JUST GOING FROM TRIBE TO TRIBE.
I JUST QUE KNEW I HAD TO KEEP
FIGHTING AND FIGHTING AND
FIGHTING AND RECONFIGURING WHAT
I WAS GOING TO DO.
ABSOLUTELY--
GOING TO EVERY TRIBAL
COUNCIL.
EVERY TRIBAL COUNCIL.
WAS THERE A MOMENT
WHEN YOU THOUGHT, TRULY THOUGHT
IT'S OVER?
OH, THE FINAL FOUR.
THAT'S WHEN I-- THAT'S WHEN I
REALLY THOUGHT I AM IN HOT
WATER.
SO YOUR BIGGEST MOVE
HAD TO BE CUTTING MALCOLM.
YEAH, 100%.
I HAD TO CUT HIM.
MALCOLM, YOU HAD A
CHANCE.
YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY.
IF NOTHING ELSE, WHY NOT JUST
LIE TO DENISE?
YEAH, I TOOK A PAGE OUT OF
PENNER'S WAYS TO GET VOTED OUT
PLAYBOOK.
BUT I THOUGHT I HAD A LOCK WITH
SKUPIN AND LISA.
THEY-- I THOUGHT THAT THEY HAD
STUCK TO THEIR WORD WITH ME
BEFORE, AND I THOUGHT IF I GOT
THEM TO SHAKE AT IT, I WAS GOOD
AND AT THE LAST TRIBAL COUNCIL
WHEN SHE SAID WHAT SHE SAID I
KNEW I WAS TOAST.
IF MALCOLM GOES TO
THE END, EVEN WITH DENISE, DOES
HE WIN?
IF YOU'RE IN THE JURY AND YOU
GIVE HIM YOUR VOTE, RAISE YOUR
HAND.
TWO?
REALLY?
SO IF MALCOLM IS IN THE FINAL
WITH DENISE, DOES DENISE STILL
WIN?
ALL RIGHT.
WELL, PRETTY CONVINCING.
SO EITHER WAY, DENISE, IT LOOKS
LIKE YOU WERE IN PRETTY GOOD
SHAPE.
SO YOU'RE A SEX THERAPIST IN
YOUR NORMAL LIFE.
YES.
SO WHAT DO YOUR
CLIENTS THINK ABOUT THIS WHEN
YOU'RE OUT THERE AND YOU KNOW
YOU'RE SO VULNERABLE AND YOU'RE
WEARING A BIKINI.
THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
UNEXPECTED GIFTS OF PLAYING THIS
GAME IS I'VE HAD CLIENTS THAT
HAVE JUST BEEN FANTASTIC ABOUT
IT, AND WE'VE HAD ALL OF THESE
REALLY AUTHENTIC CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT RELIGION AND BODY IMAGE
AND JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENT AND DIGGING DEEP AND
GETTING UP OFF THEIR COUCH.
I ASK BECAUSE YOU
WERE CONCERNED HOW YOU WOULD BE
PERCEIVED WITH THE CLEN TELEYOU
WORKED SO CLOSELY WITH?
FLEET COMPLOOETLY.
THEY SEE ME IN ONE LIGHT IN MY
OFFICE AND YOU'RE COMPLETELY
EXPOSED OUT OF HERE AND IT'S
COMPLETELY OUT OF YOUR CONTROL.
A BIG ISSUE IN THE
GAME OF "SURVIVOR" IS TRUST,
ALD.
IN THE LAST FEW DAYS-- LISA, YOU
BETRAYED MALCOLM, TOO.
HE TAKES YOU TO THE REWARD WHILE
YOU'RE CONCEIVING HOW TO
BLINDSIDE HIM.
WELL, IT WAS ALSO VERY
STREAMIC OF HIM TO TAKE ME TO
THE REWARD.
I DON'T THINK THAT WAS JUST
TOTALLY OUT OF THE GOODNESS OF
HIS HEART.
IT WAS A SMART MOVE TO TAKE ME
TO THE REWARD.
PENNER, YOU HAD A
CHANCE AT THIS.
HUTWO BIG CHANCES.
ONE WITH JEFF KENT, WHICH WE'LL
TALK ABOUT.
YOU HAVE AN OFFER FAIR FINAL
FOUR.
WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN YOUR HEAD?
BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS STUFF I
DON'T KNOW, SO AS I'M WATCHING
IT BACK, YOU'RE OVER THERE SO
SMUG GOING, "I DON'T KNOW.
I'LL GET BACK TO YOU."
WITH THE, I DIDN'T FEEL SMUG
AT ALL.
WHAT I FELT WAS I HAD PLAYED A
VERY SPECIFIC RUNNING,
SCRAMBLING GAME UP TO THAT POINT
STAYING ALIVE AND THE REASON
LISA TRUSTED ME WAS I HAD NEVER
LIED TO HER AND DIDN'T REALIZE
NOW WAS THE TIME TO START.
I MEAN I KNEW AT SOME POINT I I
WAS GOING TO HAVE TO DO THAT BUT
I CERTAINLY DIDN'T REALIZE
THEIND GAME WAS UPON ME.
I HAD PLAYED AN OPEN GAME WITH
HER AND DIDN'T START LYING.
WHAT WAS THE DEAL
WITH YOU AND JEFF KENT?
BECAUSE WHEN YOU GUYS ENDED UP
TOGETHER, I THOUGHT IF THESE TWO
GET TOGETHER, THIS COULD BE FAN
FANTASTIC.
ASK JEFF.
I TOTALLY AGREE.
WHEN I SHOOK HIS HAND, TWICE
WITH FIVE FINGERS, I THOUGHT
THAT WE HAD A GENTLEMAN'S
AGREEMENT TO GO TO THE FIVE.
AND I WAS SHOCKED-- I MEAN, NOT
DISAPPOINTED, BUT SURPRISED--
THAT HE WAS GUNNING FOR ME FROM
THE GET-GO.
SO, JEFF, IT DID SEEM
AS THOUGH MORE THAN ANYTHING,
YOU WANT THE PENNER OUT BEFORE
YOU.
BUT I NEVER WROTE YOUR NAME
DOWN ONE TIME, BUDDY.
AND THE THING IS I WAS TRYING TO
DEFLECT ALL THE ATTENTION OFF OF
ME AND PUT IT ON SOMEBODY ELSE,
AND I WAS DUMPING IT ALL ON
PENNER.
I APPROACHED PENNER MANY TIMES
AND SAID, "WE CAN DO THIS," AND
I GAVE HIM THE IDEA THEY WERE
GUNNING FOR HIM SO HE NEEDED TO
USE HIS IDOL BUT DENISE WAS THE
PROBLEM.
WE COULDN'T GET DENISE TO GO AND
I COULDN'T SIDE WITH PENNER AND
CARTIR WAS MY OTHER BOY AND I
HAD TO GO WITH CARTER.
SO YOU WERE SHOCKED
WHEN PENNER VOTED THE WAY HE DID
THAT NIGHT AT TRIBAL.
WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHY HE
VOTE THE WAY HE DID.
WE KIND OF HAD A RUN-IN
AFTERWARDS WHY WHATDID YOU SPLOA
THAT VOTE FOR?
BECAUSE IF NOT, WE WOULD STILL
BE ON THE ISLAND TOGETHER.
SKUPIN, SURPRISED YOU
DIDN'T GET MORE VOTE?
I THINK YOU GO INTO THE FINAL
THREE, KNOWING YOUR GAME AND
KNOWING HOW HARD YOU FOUGHT AND
YOU EXPECT TO GET ALL OF THEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU PERSONALLY
DID.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT SHE DID IN
HER CONFESSIONALS.
I'M NOT SAYING WHAT SHE DID.
I KNOW WHAT I DID.
I CLAUDE AND FOUGHT THE WHOLE
GAME.
AS YOU'RE SITTING
THERE AT THE LAST TRIBAL COUNCIL
AND HERE TONIGHT YOU FULLY
EXPECT THAT YOU DESERVE TO WIN.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING CAN THE
MINDED SET, YOU'RE CONFIDENT,
YOU PLAY HARD, AND I THOUGHT I
PLAYED HARDER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
HO HOW ABOUT YOU, LISA?
DID YOU AT FINAL TRIBAL COUNCIL
THINK YOU DESERVED IT?
I'M PRETTY REALISTIC ABOUT
THE GAME I PLAYED.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH IS, AS
MUCH AS I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO
HAVE WON THE MILLION DOLLARS, OR
EVEN 600,000--
I REALLY DID GROW AND LEARN SO
MUCH.
IT WAS PAINFUL, BUT IT WAS WORTH
EVERY MOMENT OF IT, AND, YOU
KNOW, SILLY THING, CORNY AS IT
IS, "THE FACTS OF LIFE "THEME
SONG, YOU TAKE THE GOOD, YOU
TAKE THE BAD, YOU TAKE THEM
BOTH, AND LEARNING HOW TO ACCEPT
BOTH SIDE OF ME HAS BEEN WORTH A
MILLION DOLLARS.
JEFF, LISA REFERENCES
YOUR $600,000 COMMENT, WHICH--
IT WILL BE LESS NOW.
YOU DIDN'T CATCH
THAT.
HE SAID IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
LESS NOW.
SO YOUR EXIT SPEECH IS PROBABLY
THE BEST THERE'S EVER BEEN.
CAN YOU COMPARE-- YOU KNOW, YOU
BASICALLY SAID, LOOK, I MADE
60-SOME MILLION DOLLARS IN
BASEBALL AND I WANT TO WIN THIS
STUPID GAME.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT THIS GAME
THAWPTD TO WIN?
IN THIS GAME, IT DRAWS YOU
BACK IN.
WHEN YOU GET KICKED OFF, YOU
KNOW YOU'RE GETTING KICKED OFF,
AND YOU'RE WATCHING IT BACK
THERE.
IT DRAWS YOU BACK IN.
YOUR COMPETITIVE NATURE GETS
KICKED UP ANOTHER NOTCH.
WHAT IS IT?
YOU COULD DO A LOT OF THINGS.
UPPER IN THE WORLD SERIES.
THE ANTICIPATION-- BASEBALL
IS A GAME OF ANTICIPATION.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS
GAME IS ABOUT.
YOU SIT AT TRIBAL COUNCIL, NOT
KNOWING IF YOU'RE GOING HOME AND
THAT ANTICIPATION INCREASES YOUR
ADRENALINE DRIVE TRUE THE ROOF
AND THAT DRAWS YOU IN TO
COMPETE.
I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT
YOU, ALL THE GUYS ON YOUR CREW
LEARNED A LESSON FROM YOU AND
IT'S AN IRONIC ONE.
IT'S ABOUT SPORTSMANSHIP, YOU
CAME IN WITH THIS BIG BAGGAGE
FROM THE MAJOR LEAGUES, AND
EVERY TIME WE HAD A CHALLENGE
THAT JEFF KENT LOST, I EXPECTED
TO HEAR COMPLAINING, AND EVERY
TIME HE SAID, "HEY, THEY GOT US,
WE'LL TRY TO GET THEM NEXT
TIME."
I DID LEARN THAT FROM YOU.
SKUPIN, MICHAEL, ROLL THE B ROLL
OF WHAT SOME PEOPLE CALLED SORT
OF MR. MAGOING TO OUT THERE.
THAT WAS YOU!
IT WAS ME, OKAY, I
ADMIT IT.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SKUPIN,
BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE--
YOU FALLING IN THE FIRE BACK IN
"SURVIVOR: AUSTRALIA YET QTS
EVEN THOUGH IT WAS INCREDIBLY
TRAG AND I CAN SCARY MADE A
LITTLE MORE SENSE.
YOU JUST WEREN'T OUT THERE LONG
ENOUGH TO HAVE MORE ACCIDENTS.
LOOK AT THIS STUFF.
OH!
SO IS THAT-- I MEAN,
'CAUSE BEE PLAYED THIS GAME FOR
HEAD.
IT'S PROBABLY YOUR FACE.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT IT
HAPPENED DURING THAT TIME.
SMALL LITTLE INJURIES, LITTLE
NICKS HERE AND THERE.
THE ADRENALINE KICKS IN, AS BAD
AS YOUR FOOT HURTS LIMPING TO
THE CHALLENGE, ONCE YOU GET
THERE, IT'S GAME ON, AND YOU
DON'T FEEL IT.
YOU MENTIONED THE
MASK.
WHAT HAPPENED IN ONE CHALLENGE
IS WE GAVE MICHAEL SKUPIN THIS
MASK.
I ASKED THE GUYS IN THE ART
DEPARTMENT TO KEEP IT FOR ME
AFTER WE WERE DONE.
IT LITERAL LITERALLY BLEW OUT.
EVERYTHING BLEW OUT AND
SHATTERED.
TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S WHAT'S LEFT OF IT, IS
JUST LITTLE SHARDS OF HARD
PLASTIC OR GLASS.
ANYWAY, SKUPIN, I WANT TO GIVE
THIS TO YOU AS A REMINDER OF
YOUR TIME ON THIS SHOW.
ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A LOT MORE
SURVIVORS TO CHECK IN WITH.
WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH LISA,
WE'RE GOING TO TALK WITH
MALCOLM.
WE'RE GOG TALK WITH ABI.
FIRST, IT IS HARD TO BELIEVE
THIS IS OUR 25th SEASON, AND
AFTER SO MANY YEARS ON THE AIR,
"SURVIVOR "IS STILL GOING
STRONG, AND THERE IS ONE REASON
WHY.
IT IS YOU, OUR AUDIENCE.
AND WE'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT
TO SAY THANK YOU
FOR 12 YEARS AND 25 SEASONS,
YOU HAVE INVITED "SURVIVOR" INTO
YOUR HOMES.
YOU FOLLOWED US ACROSS 40
CONTINENTS, 18 COUNTRIES AND
INVESTED IN OVER 350 TRIBAL
COUNCILS.
YOU'RE THE MOST LOYAL AND
AMAZING FANS A SHOW COULD EVER
HOPE FOR, AND THANKS TO YOU,
"SURVIVOR" IS STILL THE MOST
WATCHED SHOW WEDNESDAYS AT 8:00.
WE THANK YOU.
I PLAY THE CHARACTER OF BLAI
WARN OR "THE FACTS OF LIFE."
TRYING TO LEARN TO OPEN UP AND
THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO
EXPERIMENT WITH THAT MY WHOLE
LIFE HAS BEEN BASED ON PUBLIC
PERCEPTION.
YOU KNOW, I'VE LIVED MY LIFE ON
THE SAME SINCE I WAS SEVEN YEARS
OLD.
I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER NEEDED
ANY PERSON MORE IN MY LIFE.
LISA NOT GIVING PUP.
I DO BELIEVE I'M TAKING
CONTROL OF MY OWN DESTINY AND
THE REST OF MY LIFE.
WELCOME BACK TO THE
"SURVIVOR: PHILIPPINES" LIVE
REUNION SHOW WHERE DENISE HAS
WON A MILLION DOLLARS.
WE'RE TALKING WITH LISA WELCHLE
NOW.
WE JUST SAW THERE, "THE FACTS OF
LIFE" PEOPLE GREW UP WITH YOU ON
TV.
YOU GREW UP ON TV.
AND YOU COME TO THIS GAME IN
WHICH YOU WILL BE STRIPPED BARE,
VERY VISUAL, NOWHERE TO HIDE,
NOBODY EVEN NECESSARILY LIKES
YOU.
WERE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THIS
IMAGE YOU HAD TO THE PUBLIC?
YOU KNOW, I REALLY DIDN'T
THINK ABOUT THAT.
I WAS SO EXCITED TO BE A PART OF
THE GAME AND IN THE GAME AND I'M
REALLY NOT LIKE BLAIR.
I ACTUALLY PREFER NOT WEARING
MAKEUP AND NOT BEING IN HIGH
HEELS.
SO THAT FELT VERY COMFORTABLE
AND VERY ME.
AND SO IT JUST REALLY-- I WASN'T
AWARE, SELF CONSCIOUS ABOUT MY
EXPERIENCE.
IT WAS MUCH MORE ABOUT MY
OPENING UP WHAT WAS INSIDE AND
THE CONFLICT THAT WAS GOING ON
IN THERE.
SO THE CHRISTIANITY
WHICH WAS SUCH A BIG PART, IS
THAT A CONCERN THEN THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO LET PEOPLE IN TO SEE
WHAT YOU BELIEVE AND HOW YOU
BELIEVE AND HOW YOU PRAY AND
WHAT YOU DRAW ON?
YEAH.
ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE I WATCHED THE SHOW SO
MANY TIMES I KNOW THAT-- I
PLANNED IN MY HEART, I'M NOT
GOING TO PRAY OUT THERE BECAUSE
PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING TO ROLL
THEIR EYES.
IT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
TRANSLATE WELL.
EVEN PRAYING BECAUSE IT SOUNDS
LIKE YOU THINK GOD CARES WHO
WINS "SURVIVOR."
I DON'T THINK GOD CARES WHO WINS
"SURVIVOR," HAS A FAVORITE
FOOTBALL TEAM, HAS A FAVORITE
COUNTRY, A FAVORITE RELIGION.
I THINK HE CARES ABOUT US EACH
INDIVIDUALLY, AND THAT HE CARES
THAT DENISE WITHIN WON A MILLION
DOLLARS?
YES.
BUT THAT'S BECAUSE HE CARED
ABOUT DENISE.
DOES HE CARE I DIDN'T WIN?
YES, BECAUSE HE CARES ABOUT ME.
AND THAT'S HARD TO TRANSLATE AND
SO I DIDN'T EVEN WANT TO TRY.
SO THEN, THE DILEMMA
FOR YOU THAT WE WATCHED AT HOME
WAS, WAS THIS GAME, THIS
DEVILISH GAME, WHICH IS PITTED
AGAINST YOUR CHRISTIANITY,
REALLY.
YEAH, AND THAT WAS MY JOURNEY
WAS HAVING SPENT A LIFETIME, FOR
DIFFERENT REASONS-- AS A CHILD
WANTING TO BE GOOD TO WIN MY
PARENTS APPROVAL.
AND BEING A CHRISTIAN AND
WANTING GOD TO BE GLAD THAT HE
CAME FOR ME.
AND THEN BEING ON THE SHOW
WANTING TO REFLECT GOD'S LOVE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, NOTHING
ABOUT "SURVIVOR" IS THE KIND OF
THING THAT REFLECTS THE
CHARACTER OF GOD.
AND SO IT WAS A TOTAL INTERNAL
CONFLICT UNTIL I REALIZED, WAIT
A MINUTE.
YOU KNOW WHAT?
I'M ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
AND IT'S OKAY TO BE HUMAN AND
IT'S OKAY TO BE SOMETIMESSED
GOOD AND TIMES BAD EVEN IN THE
CONTEXT OF THE GAME, EVEN NOT IN
THE CONTEXT OF THE GAME.
THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT
CHRISTIANITY IS ALL ABOUT, IS
ACCEPTANCE.
.
SO WITH ALL OF THIS
GOING ON INSIDE YOUR HEAD, WHAT
WAS THE APPEAL OF "SURVIVOR" IN
THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE WE
DIDN'T COME LOOKING FOR YOU.
YOU NOWND US.
THE FIRST APPEAL WAS JUST
THIS LOVE OF THIS GAME.
AND THEN I HAD READ A BOOK
CALLED "THE BARBARIAN WAY" AND
IT WAS ABOUT LIVING FROM YOUR
GUT, NOT JUST FROM YOUR HEAD.
SO I JUST THOUGHT THIS WAS
AWESOME.
I CONTACTED THE AUTHOR, IRWIN
McMAHONUS, I SAID I WANT TO
PICK YOUR BRAIN.
I HAD LUNCH.
I SAID HOW CAN I DO IT?
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF
MY HEAD.
I WANT TO LIVE FOR MY SINNER.
HE SAID PUT YOURSELF IN
SITUATIONS WHERE YOU'RE NOT IN
CONTROL AND, MAN, NO MORE WORD
WERE TRUER.
I GOT OUT OF CONTROL, BUT I ALSO
GOUT ON THE OF MY HEAD, INTO MY
GUT, AND WAS ABLE TO SEE ALL
THAT'S INSIDE THERE IS
ACCEPTABLE TO GOD, IT'S
ACCEPTABLE TO ME, AND ITT
DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S
ACCEPTABLE TO ANYBODY ELSE
WELL, ONE OF THE MOST
EMOTIONAL MOMENTS OF THE SEASON
CAME DURING THE LOVED ONE VISIT
WHEN LISA'S BROTHER, JUSTICE,
SHOWED UP.
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
LISA, HERE'S YOUR BROTHER
JUSTICE.
SISTER!
GOTTA SAY, LISA.
I'VE SEEN SOME PRETTY POWERFUL
MOMENTS INVOLVING LOVED ONES.
THIS MIGHT BE AT THE TOP.
SO EVEN I GOT TEARY, AND I'M
PRETTY GOOD AT HOLDING BACK THE
TEARS DURING A LOVED ONES VISIT.
YOU WERE SO VULNERABLE IS WHAT
IT WAS FOR ME.
YOU REALLY FELL INTO HIS ARMS.
WHAT DID HE WHISPER OR SAY TO
YOU ON THE ISLAND.
BECAUSE YOU WERE VERY DIFFERENT
AFTER YOUR BROTHER LEFT.
HE SAID TO ME AS SOON AS WE
HIT THE CHALLENGE, HE SAID,
"TRUST YOUR GUT.
AND REMEMBER IT'S A GAME."
AND I SAID WHAT IF THOSE TWO
THINGS ARE DIAMETRICALLY
OPPOSED?
AND-- BECAUSE I COULDN'T--
CONVINCE HIM THAT MY HEART LOVED
THESE PEOPLE AND DIDN'T WANT TO
HURT THEM.
MY HEAD WANTED TO KNOCK THEM OUT
AND WIN THIS MILLION DOLLARS!
MICHAEL, PUT UP THE
SPLIT SCREEN.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS FASCINATING.
WE HAVE A SHOT-- OKAY, THE SHOT
ON THE LEFT IS LISA ABOUT SIX
HOURS BEFORE JUSTICE GOT THERE.
AND THE SHOT ON THE RIGHT IS
LISA SIX HOURS AFTER HE LEFT.
PRETTY POWERFUL.
I GOTTA TALK ABOUT THE RAIN.
IT RAINED FOR 21 STRAIGHT DAYS.
AND RUSSELL, WHEN YOU PLAYED THE
FIRST TIME, IN SAMOA, IT RAINED
FOR ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF
DAYS.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE WHAT THAT IS
LIKE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO BE COLD
AND WET AND MISERABLE?
OH, IT'S JUST MISERABLE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN'T-- THERE'S NO
INSIDE.
THERE IS NO DRY.
I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS JUST WET.
AND SO YOU'RE JUST SITTING THERE
SHAKING, WET.
YOU'RE THINKING AT SOME POINT, A
TOWEL IS JUST GOING TO COINED OF
MAGICALLY APPEAR.
YOU'RE GOING TO GET DRY.
YOU'RE GOING TO FEEL BETTER AND
CLEAR IT UP.
THERE'S NEVER ANY RELIEF FROM
US.
NO, THERE'S NOTHING.
YOU'RE JUST OUT THERE.
THERE IS NOD IN.
YOU'RE JUST COLD, WET, AND
MISERABLE.
AND DANA, ONE OF THE
MOST TENDER MOMENTS AND TOUGH
MOMENTS OF ANY SEASON, HONESTLY,
WAS YOU, BEING EVACUATED BECAUSE
EVERYBODY KNEW YOU DIDN'T WANT
TO LEAVE, AND EVERYBODY KNEW YOU
COULDN'T STAY.
DO YOU-- CAN YOU REMEMBER ANY OF
THAT?
OR WERE YOU FOGGY?
PRETTY FOGGY.
I WAS A LITTLE DELUSIONAL AT THE
TIME.
AND I MEAN I REMEMBER YOU COMING
OUT THERE.
I DON'T REMEMBER IT BEING A
CHOICE.
I REMEMBER SAYING I NEEDED HELP
AND THEN YOU SHOWED UP.
THAT WAS AWESOME.
THANK YOU.
YOU'RE WELCOME.
SO WHAT'S THE TAKEAWAY THEN.
YOU WERE IN THIS GAME, AND
SUDDENLY YOU'RE GONE?
I MEAN, WE CAN'T ALL WIN THE
MILLION DOLLARS,UN.
IT'S THE HARD KNOCKS.
MAYBE I'LL GET TO PLAY AGAIN.
I MEAN, I NEVER WENT TO TRIBAL
COUNCIL.
I NEVER HAD A VOTE AGAINST ME.
WHO'S TO SAY HOW WELL I WOULD
HAVE DONE.
THERE'S A CASE TO BE
MADE FOR A RETURN FROM DANA.
MAYBE.
STILL TO COME, WE'RE
GOING TO TALK WITH TWO OF OUR
MOST MEMORABLE PLAYERS, A HERO
AND DARE I SAY, A VILLAIN.
MALCOLM AND ABI.
AND THEN SPRINT IS GOING TO GIVE
AWAY A $100,000 PRIDE.
BUT FIRST, ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT MAKES "SURVIVOR" UNLIKE ANY
OTHER SHOW ON TELEVISION IS THE
OPPORTUNITY FOR TRULY
ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME EXPERIENCES,
LIKE SWIMMING IN THE WOAGZ A
WHALE SHARK.
TAKE A LOOK.
YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT
ME IN THE WATER WITH THE WORLD'S
BIGGEST FISH?
MY HANDS START SHAKING.
IT'S SO BIG, IT NEVER ENDS.
YOU THINK AT ANY SECOND IT
COULD JUST EAT YOU.
TO SEE SOMETHING THAT HUGE
WAS AWE-INSPIRING.
FIRST SEASON OF "SURVIVOR"
AIRED WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
IT'S GOING THIS POORLY, IT'S
HEARTBRACKING.
EVERYBODY LOVES AN UNDERDOG
STORY THANK YOU!
MALCOLM IS ON A TEAR!
I FEEL LIKE I GOT MY SWAG
BACK.
MALCOLM WINS
IMMUNITY.
MALCOLM WINS REWARD.
MALCOLM WINS IMMUNITY.
IT REALLY MADE ME RECONSIDER
WHAT I HAVE BEEN DOING WITH MY
LIFE THE PAST YEAR AND IT WAS A
LIFE-SHAPING EXPERIENCE FOR ME.
.
WELCOME BACK
"SURVIVOR: PHILIPPINES," AND
EVERY REUNION SHOW IN LOS
ANGELES, MALCOLM, YOU'VE BROKEN
A LOT OF HEART BY NOT WINNING.
THERE WERE A LOT OF LITTLE
GIRLS, ESPECIALLY, AND I'M SURE
MAY BE A COUPLE OF OLDER ONES
REALLY ROOTING FOR YOU.
WHEN WE CAME TO THAT LAST
CHALLENGE, IT WAS SORT OF LIKE
OZZIE A COUPLE OF SEASONS AGO.
IT SEEMED LIKE IF YOU COULD WIN
IT, YOU COULD DICTATE WHAT
HAPPENED IN THE END.
DID YOU HAVE A SENSE WHEN YOU
WALKED UP AND SAW WHAT IT WAS
WHEN YOU WERE IN TROUBLE?
I KNEW I WAS TOAST.
I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE SHOW, AND
THAT'S THE FINAL CHALLENGE FROM
MICRONESIA, AND PARVITIY WON IT.
AND I HAVE THE LEAST STEADY HAND
ON THE PLANET.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS.
I WALKED UP AND LOOKED AT IT AND
I THINK I TOLD MY MOM BEFORE IF
THAT WAS EVER A CHALLENGE WHEN I
WAS ON "SURVIVOR" I'M DONE.
I HAD SAD, CLOWN TEAR MOMENTS
WHEN I WALKED UP, I'M TOAST.
REALLY?
AND EVEN WITH THE SECOND CHANCE
IT WAS OVER.
GIVE ME 100 CHANCES.
SO WHAT IS THE
REACTION BEEN?
BECAUSE IT'S-- YOU'RE CLEARLY
ONE OF THE MORE POPULAR PEOPLE
TO EVER PLAY.
AND WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT A SHOW
LIKE "SURVIVOR," YOU'RE NOT
PLAYING A CHARACTER.
THIS ISN'T "C.S.I.."
THIS IS MALCOLM.
IT'S REALLY YOU.
SO WHEN PEOPLE COME UP AND THEY
LIKE YOU OR DON'T LIKE YOU, IT'S
VERY PERSONAL.
SO WHAT'S IT LIKE TO SUDDENLY
GET ALL THIS ADORATION.
IT'S NICE.
IT'S BEEN REALLY OVERWHELMING.
WHEN YOU GO OUT ON A SHOW AND
THE WAY YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING
TO PLAY THE GAME YOU DON'T KNOW
HOW YOU WILL BE PERCEIVED.
HOW PEOPLE WILL REACT TO YOU,
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO END UP
LOOKING LIKE.
IT'S COOL TO KNOW THAT'S ME.
EVERYTHING I SAID WAS 100%
SINCERE, AND PEOPLE ARE
ACCEPTING IT AND LIKE ME.
WHERE DOES IT COME
FROM, THIS ABILITY-- ONCE AGAIN,
LIKE OZZY-- TO JUST CLIMB TREES
AND SWIM AND CATCH FISH?
WHERE IS THAT?
MOST PEOPLE HOCOM WHO COME ON
"SURVIVOR" CAN'T DO THAT?
I WORKED OVERSEAS BEFORE BUT
I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF
EXPERIENCE WITH THIS STUFF.
IT'S CONFIDENCE AND A LITTLE
SWAL SWAGGER, "OH, I'M GOING TO
DO THAT TODAY."
BELIEVE I'M GOING TO GO OUT FOR
A SWIM IN THE OCEAN AND PET A
WHALE SHARK.
I WAS TOLD NOT TO TOUCH IT-- IT
DIDN'T HAPPEN.
SWAGGER OR SELF-CONFIDENCE IS
REALLY THE COOLEST TRADE TRAIT
ANYBODY CAN HAVE.
GIVE ME THE MOMENT
NEXT THE WHALE SHARK.
WE NEVER HAD ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S A MASSIVE MOMENT.
IT'S ABOUT 10 TIME LONGER
THAN US, AND RIGHT BEFORE I
TOUCH IT, SKUPIN GETS
HUD-BUTTED.
OF COURSE.
I'M LAWCHG OUT OF MY SNORKEL
AS I'M DIVING NEXT TO THIS
THING.
AND THEY SAID DON'T TOUCH IT.
AND, NOTICE, AND I REACHED OUT.
AND IT REALLY WAS LIKE, ALL THE
STRATEGY ASIDE, ALM THE
RELATIONSHIP-- I'M NOT GOING TO
SAY THAT BUT IT WAS ABSOLUTELY
THE ONE MOMENT I'LL TALK ABOUT
FOREVER FROM THIS SHOW.
SO THE TAKE-AWAY ON
THIS SHOW, FRUSTRATION?
THERE'S DEFINITELY THAT.
I MEAN, THERE'S OTHER STUFF YOU
TAKE AWAY FROM IT.
BUT I'M A COMPETITIVE GUY, A LOT
LIKE JEFF IS.
WE TALKED ABOUT, I WANT TO WIN.
THE ONLY REASON IM THERE IS I
WANT TO WIN.
I GET VOTED OUT ON DAY 38, I WAS
PISSED OFF.
SINCERELY, AND THIS DAY I'M
STILL MAD ABOUT IT.
I WANT TO WIN.
YOU--
WOULD YOU PLAY AGAIN?
I WOULD CONSIDER PLAYING
AGAIN, YEAH.
.
LAST QUESTION, WHEN
YOU LEAVE HERE TONIGHT, AND
YOU'RE ON THE STREETS, ARE YOU
SINGLE OR AVAILABLE?
SINGLE.
.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU
CAN CALL "SURVIVOR" A GREAT SEEN
IF YOU DON'T HAVE AT LEAST ONE
GREAT VILLAIN.
FORTUNATELY, THIS SEASON, WE HAD
ABI.
I CAME HERE NOT TO BE FEELING
BAD FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
I CAME HERE TO WAYNE MILLION
DOLLARS.
I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO YOU.
I HAVE NOTHING TO TALK TO YOU.
SHE'S LIKE THIS BRAZILIAN
BOMB THAT IS ABOUT TO PLOA UP.
WHAT ARE YOU DOING!
AND YOU ME YOU'RE
DEAD.
IT'S REALLY HARD NOT TO LAUGH
AT SOME OF THE THINGS SHE SAID.
I'M SORRY IF I WAS A BIT TOO
HONEST WITH SOME OF YOU.
ABI HAS ALL THE SOCIAL GRACE
OF A MACK TROUBLE.
PLAY LIKE A MAN.
DON'T PLAY LIKE A BITCH.
WOW, I NEVER THOUGHT I WAS AN
UNLIKABLE PERSON.
STUPID.
ABI, YOU SAID IN THAT
PIECE I NEVER KNEW OR EVER BEEN
TOLD I'M NOT LIKABLE SO THIS
REALLY WAS THE ABSOLUTE FIRST
TIME ANYBODY HAS EVER SAID
THINGS LIKE THAT TO YOU.
YEAH.
AND WHEN YOU WATCH
THE SHOW NOW, DO YOU TAKE
ANYTHING AWAY FROM IT DIFFERENT?
OH, A HIEWRNLG LEARNING
EXPERIENCE.
I HAVE A LOT OF GROWING TO DO,
YEAH.
HOW SO?
DID YOU WATCH THE SHOW?
.
YES.
AND I WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO
KEPT THROWING OUT IT MIGHT BE
CULTURAL, AND EVERY TIME I SAID,
THAT SOMEBODY WOULD SAY TO ME,
"ARE YOU NUTS?"
WHAT I DID YOU LEARN?
WHAT DID YOU SEE IN YOURSELF
THAT YOU WANT TO CHANGE?
VERY ABRASIVE, VERY PASSIVE
AGGRESSIVE, AND I WEAR MY
EMOTION ON MY SLEEVE.
I NEED TO CHANGE THAT, CALM DOWN
A LITTLE BIT.
TAKE A CHILL PILL.
I HAVE TO SHOW, I
HAVE TO INDULGE WITH ONE LITTLE
CLIP OF YOU AND SKUPIN AT TRIBAL
COUNCIL.
IT HAPPENED LATE IN THE SEASON.
MICHAEL, YOU CAN ROLL THAT.
YOU KNOW, JEFF, IT'S SO MANY
THINGS BECAUSE--
BECAUSE YOU'RE AN IDIOT.
THAT'S WHY YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE
A MILLION DOLLARS.
ANYWAY, JEFF--
YOU'RE A MORON.
WHAT IS IS THE REACTION.
YOU ARE A MORON.
UNFORTUNATELY--
HOLD ON, ABI CALLED YOU AN
IDIOT ONCE AND A MORON TWICE.
CULTURAL.
IN HER CULTURE THAT'S A
COMPLIMENT.
R.C., YOU AND ABEERK
THANKS TO PETE, DOING A DEVIOUS
PLAN, REALLY ENDED UP
ADVERSARIES IN THIS, IN SOME
WAYS WAS ABI YOUR DOWNFALL?
OH, 100%.
SHE WOULDN'T LISTEN TO ANY
REASON WHATSOEVER.
AND WE'RE JUST TWO DIFFERENT
PEOPLE AND WE WERE PLAYING A
GAME, AND QUITE HONESTLY, SHE
SHOULD HAVE FAKED IT AND SHE
DIDN'T AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE BOTH
LOSERS SITTING ON THIS SIDE
INSTEAD OF POTENTIALLY SITTING
OVER THERE.
PETE, I HAVE TO SAY,
I THINK ABI MIGHT HAVE BEEN YOUR
DOWNFALL, AS LONG AS I LOVED THE
CHAOS YOU WERE STIRRING.
I MEAN, IT WAS FUNNY,
WATCHING THEM GO AT IT AND HAVE
NO IDEA--
I'M GLAD PETE HAS LONG ARMS
TO PAT HIMSELF ON THE BACK
BECAUSE IT WAS THE WORST MOVE
IMAGINABLE.
HE SAID THE ONLY ONE
CONGRATULATING HIMSELF ON THIS
ONE.
OOH.
SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL A LITTLE
BITTER.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL
TAKE A BREAK!
UP NEXT, ONE OF THESE PLAYERS
RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO WIN
$100,000 COURTESY OF SPRINT.
AND TAKING US TO THE BREAK OUR
"SURVIVOR" COMPOSER, DAVID
VANNAED COR, AND RUS LANDAU.
SINCE WEDNESDAY
VIEWERS HAVE BEEN TEXTING AND
VOTING ON LINE FOR THE SPRINT
PLAYER OF THE SEASON.
IT WAS THE CLOSE OAST WE'VE EVER
HAD.
AT ONE POINT IT WAS WITHIN 200
ACTUAL VOTES, AND AT THE VERY
END, THE DIFFERENCE THAT
SEPARATED THE WINNER FROM THE
RUNNER UP WAS .7%.
SO LESS THAN A PERCENT.
IT WAS DOWN TO MALCOLM AND LISA.
CONVENIENTLY SITTING SIDE BY
SIDE.
MALCOLM WAS AHEAD FOR A LONG
TIME, THEN LISA PULLED AHEAD,
AND THEN LISA STAYED AHEAD.
LISA IS THE SPRINT PLAYER OF THE
GAME, WINNER OF $100,000,
COURTESY OF SPRINT.
CONGRATULATIONS.
AND ONCE AGAIN
MALCOLM IS JUST THIS CLOSE.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S CHECK IN WITH
SOME OTHER PEOPLE.
ANGIE, UP IN THE BACK ROW, ONE
OF THE YOUNGEST PLAYERS THIS
SEASON.
YOU REALLY CAME OUT THERE WITH
YOUR HEART AND YOU TOOK A LITTLE
BIT OF GRIEF FOR SOME OF YOUR
COMMENT, BUT DID YOU HAVE A GOOD
TIME?
I HAD A GREAT TIME, THE BEST
EXPERIENCE OF MY LIFE.
REALLY?
YES.
FANTASTIC.
ZANE, YOU, I THINK, WANTED TO
QUIT AND ENGINEERED YOUR WAY OUT
OF THE GAME.
TRUE OR FALSE.
FALSE.
YOU JUST MADE A BAD
MOVE.
YES, VERY BAD, VERY, VERY
BAD.
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOUR CAR RUNS OUT
OF GAS AND YOU THINK I CAN MAKE
IT TO THE GAS STATION AND BAM!
YOU'RE SITTING ON THE SIDE OF
THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
ROXY TELL ME ABOUT
YOUR TIME.
ALL I REMEMBER ABOUT YOU IS THIS
INCREDIBLE SMILE, BUT YOU WERE
SO UPSET.
YEAH, I WAS REALLY UPSET,
BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAD AN AMAZING
EXPERIENCE, AND TO BE ABLE TO
JUST LET LOOSE AND REALLY SHOW
WHO I AM, IT BEATS SOMETHING
EXWG THEY COULD DO BEHIND A
PULPIT.
SO I WAS REALLY PROUD OF THAT.
AND MY LITTLE MOMENT ON THE
BEACH PRAYING, SPEAKING IN
TONGUES, I GUESS IT CAN NEVER
REALLY BE FORGOTTEN.
KATIE, ARE YOU MAD AT ME?
IT SEEMED LIKE I WAS ALWAYS
SAYING KATIE IN THE REAR.
KATIE BEHIND.
EVERY SINGLE TIME.
I GOT IT AFTER THE SIXTH TIME.
IT'S ALL GOOD.
I FORGIVE YOU.
SO BEING AT THE END
OF ALL OF THOSE CHALLENGES, IS
THAT YOUR MEMORY OF THE GAME OR
ARE YOU OKAY?
OH, I'M TOTALLY FINE.
I HAD A BLAST WITH EVERYONE ON
THIS BACK ROW.
WE HAD A GREAT TIME.
BUT I MEAN, ABSOLUTELY, DENISE,
YOU ROCK.
I'M SO GLAD THAT FOR THE SHORT
PERIOD OF TIME WE GOT TO SPEND
SOME TIME TOGETHER SO
CONGRATULATIONS.
THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT, RIGHT IN
THE MIDDLE,ARTIS.
I DON'T KNOW YOU WERE YOU ANGRY
DURING THE GAME OR WAS THAT JUST
MY PERCEPTION?
THAT WAS ENTIRELY YOUR
PERCEPTION.
EVERYBODY REALIZES IN MY OPENING
INTERVIEW WHEN THEY REVEALED THE
CAST, I SAID IF I AM NOT SMILING
I LOOK LIKE I'M ABOUT TO TAKE
YOUR HEAD OFF, BUT THERE IS
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME.
BUT YOU CHOSE TO MAKE THAT AN
ISSUE.
I EVEN WATCHED EVERY SINGLE
CLIP.
I WAS STARTED TO THINK I WAS THE
ANGRY BLACK MAN.
.
AND, CARTER, OKAY,
WHAT HAPPENED?
BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING.
WHEN WE PUT YOU ON THE SHOW, YOU
WERE THIS BUBBLY, TALKATIVE,
REALLY FUNNY GUY.
DID THE WEAR AND TEAR JUST HIT
YOU FASTER THAN OTHER PEOPLE?
DEFINITELY.
IT-- THE FIRST PART OF THE GAME
WAS RIDICULOUSLY HARD FOR ME.
IT WAS RAINING.
WE WERE HUNGRY.
THINGS STARTED GOING DOWNHILL.
WE LOST DIEWNS.
SECOND PART OF THE GAME IT WAS
NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE.
IT FEELS LIKE TWO DIFFERENT
PARTS THE GAME.
YOU'RE ON THE ISLAND WITH
COCONUTS AND NEW PEOPLE AND
SUNSHINE.
SO, YEAH.
I WAS HUNGRY AS WELL.
.
AND DAWSON, I HAVE TO
SAY, NO ONE HAS EVER-- OH, MY
GOD.
ALL RIGHT!
SHE GOT IT IN.
FORTUNATELY, FORTUNATELY, SHE
DOESN'T KISS ANYWHERE NEAR AS
GOOD AS MY WIFE.
OKAY, WHERE-- WHERE IS
"SURVIVOR" GOING NEXT?
AND MORE IMPORTANT LIE, WHO WILL
BE PLAYING IN OUR 26th
SEASON?
FIND OUT WHEN WE RETURN, WE'LL
BE RIGHT BACK.
HOW CAN IT BE OUR
26th SEASON IS JUST AROUND
THE CORNER?
TAKE A LOOK!
FOR YEARS, SURVIVORS HAD SOME OF
THE MOST DEDICATED FANS IN
TELEVISION HISTORY.
I'M A HUGE FAN OF "SURVIVOR."
I'M SO EXCITED.
I LOVE "SURVIVOR."
NEVER MISSED A SHOW.
TUNING IN EVERY WEEK
TO SEE THEIR FAVORITE PLAYERS
COMPETE.
NOW 10 ULTIMATE "SURVIVOR" FANS
GET A CHANCE TO PROVE THEY HAVE
WHAT IT TAKES WHEN THEY SQUARE
OFF AGAINST 10 OF THEIR FAVORITE
PLAYERS FROM THE PAST.
THEY'LL BE DROPPED IN THE
CARMOWIAN ISLANDS A PARADISE
BEAUTIFUL AND TREACHUOUS, FILLED
WITH FORMIDABLE WILDLIFE WITH
MOTHER NATURE'S TRUE FURY ONLY
ONE STORM AWAY.
WILL THEIR PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE
ON "SURVIVOR" MAKE THEM AN
UNSTOPPABLE FORCE OR WILL THE
FANS' ENTHUSIASM AND DEEP
KNOWLEDGE OF THE GAME GIVE THEM
THE EDGE?
IT'S THE RETURN OF ONE OF
"SURVIVOR'S" GREATEST PAIRINGS.
SURVIVOR CAR AS MOAN, FANS
VERSUS FAVORITE.
ALL RIGHT, NOW MIEBT MOST
IMPORTANT PART AS WE CLOSE OUT
OUR 26th SEASON WITH THE
CHECK GIVEAWAY TO DENISE, THE
CHECK PRESENTATION.
THERE IS YOUR CHECK.
MAKE SURE IT'S MADE OUT TO THE
RIGHT PERSON.
IT HAS THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF
COMAS.
LOOKS GOOD.
LOOKS GOOD?
SO WHAT IS THAT--
THAT IS A $1 MILLION CHECK--
DESPITE WHAT KENT SAYS, IT'S
STILL A LOT OF DOUGH.
IT'S LIFE CHANGING.
ABSOLUTELY LIFE CHANGE GLG HOW
SO?
IN IOWA, YOU CAN DO A LOT
WITH THIS BABY.
DENISE,
CONGRATULATIONS ON A GREAT
SEASON.
THANKS TO ALL YOU GUYS FOR A
REALLY FABULOUS SEASON OF
"SURVIVOR."
ALL RIGHT, SO IF YOU'RE A FAN OF
"SURVIVOR," AND YOU WANT TO OWN
A PIECE, YOU CAN BID ON PROPS
FROM THIS SEASON.
THE WEB SITE IS ON THE SCREEN
NOW.
THIS YEAR, ALL THE PROCEEDS FROM
THE AUCTION WILL BE SHARED AMONG
SEVERAL DESERVING CHARITIES.
BIDDING STARTS IMMEDIATELY AFTER
THE SHOW.
AND IF YOU'RE SITTING AT HOME
THINKING, "MAN, I COULD DO
THAT," IT'S TIME TO PUT UP OR
SHUT UP.
GO TO cbs.com.
ALL THE DETAILS ARE THERE.
YOU PUT TOGETHER A LITTLE TAPE.
TELL US WHO YOU ARE.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SNUFFINGLY
YOUR TORCH.
WE APPRECIATE ALL OF YOUR LOYAL
SUPPORT.
WE WILL SEE YOU BACK FOR THE
NEXT "SURVIVOR," "FANS VERSUS
FAVORITES."
GOOD NIGHT.
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