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Welcome to No Substitutes, the show where I have some of my favorite people

on and we talk about what ingredients make them who they are.

And today I have a very special guest.

She, in my opinion, is one of the most talented actresses.

And by that I mean actual actress, so, because people might think.

Anyways, she's also just, she's a fun, loving, quirky,

all-around lovely human being.

And please welcome Miss Evelyn Clare.

Oh, thank you.

Just butter you up real quick. I'm so greasy.

You're so buttered.

How was your day?

Man, speaking of greasy, the pipes broke down the street, so I haven't

had access to running water.

Well, you look great. I know. It's like the skin routine's working.

Nice. The skin biome is balanced.

Nice.

We're good.

We're good.

Killing it.

Wow. Are you still at the same house?

No. No, you moved. Yeah, thank God.

Yeah. Yeah, that place was a nightmare.

Yeah. I don't know if I showed you some of the problems with it.

None of the doors sealed.

There's always, like, a gap this big.

And anything could get underneath it. There was snakes, scorpions, tarantulas.

Crazy. Every type of spider. And, like, a whole army of isopods.

And, like, it was like a... Like... What? It was a jungle

safari every day.

Jeez. Yeah.

I'm glad I only came over once.

Yeah, it was pretty bad.

Thank God I got out of there. It was horrible.

Where are you in puddles now?

In a place where the doors seal.

Okay, that's all we need to know. Good.

That's all I needed to know. Yeah, you can come over and the kitchen's nice and

it's all perfect. I love a nice kitchen.

Yeah. In puddles.

Well, let's jump into it.

What are three ingredients you would say you need for your profession?

To be fair, I don't actually really know what you would put as your profession,

though, because you're kind of like... An enigma at this point. Yeah, an enigma

of a person. I don't know. Yeah, what am I now? Like, I don't know if anyone can

really box me in anymore.

No.

But the three ingredients, I did my homework.

Yeah. I thought about it when I saw the questions. I was like, no, I got this.

Good.

You're graded on this.

She's like, never mind.

You got to go.

But you got to be resilient.

Yeah. Because, you know, there's a lot of challenges in this industry.

And being in entertainment, you know, like you got to be able to keep going.

And that leads into how adaptable you are.

are you adaptable can you go with the flow can you create your own world like

can you make your own rules can you bend to the rules can you you know whatever

you can do to go with the trends i guess as well um and then

creativity is just like the backbone and the heart of it all so if you aren't a

creative i don't really know what you're doing yeah in the entertainment space

you know yeah it's like go be in finance or yeah tech yeah yeah

this isn't a job that you can be a robot i mean well well i

guess we are starting to use ai for some stuff it's only a matter of time i mean

I would love to meet a fun, loving, carefree robot, though.

We do.

Like, yeah.

Like, hey, can you read this book to me while I put my makeup on? Yeah.

Sure, no problem.

Yeah. They're just our besties.

You forget.

Elon wants a world of robots. They have to at least be willing to coexist with

us, I hope.

Every sci-fi film I see, it's always them taking over or, like, killing us.

I want them to have skill sets. Can they braid hair?

Oh, that'd be amazing.

Can they take my makeup off at night?

Yeah.

Okay, maybe I do want a robot.

Maybe a non-weird...

Whatever you need.

You know what? I would need it to shave my butthole for me.

That would be the best. That would be the best use for robots.

If we're going to get robots, that's the skill that they need to be able to do.

The fine motor skills.

Spread them and just get in there.

Because there's that one spot right above.

That's like too hard to get. I can't believe it.

I think this is called the bunny tail.

The bunny tail? That's what they call it. Yeah, the bunny tail. That's really

cute. That makes me not want to shave it.

No, it's like, I feel better about it now. I feel better about it now.

Back shots and guy comments on it. He's like, I love your bunny tail.

Whoa.

That'd be wholesome.

I would probably die right then and there.

Just pull out a razor.

You're like, no, can you actually get that for me? That's why I actually came

over. I didn't come over for anything else.

You fool.

You thought this was just about sex?

No.

Wow.

Okay.

Ooh, what is the best food you've had on set?

Because you've also been on not just adult sets, so.

Oh, yeah, when there's actual catering on a real Hollywood set. Oh, my God.

And when they have, like, the whole, like, options deal, or, like, they got

vegan options, and they got, like, actual food that's hot.

Just chips?

Yeah, and, like, you know, the guys serving it are always smiling.

And that part makes me happy.

It's really those little things, man.

There's something soulless about the bag.

All the individual plastic containers come in.

From Uber. All right, who ordered the... And you're just like, give me my fucking

slop so I can just get on with my degenerate life.

At least when you're on Hollywood sets, you're just like... Get your food. Get

your food.

Little cafeteria line.

Aw, that's cute.

Go sit next to somebody you befriended and you just shoot the shit.

Well, what's the best dish you've had then on a Hollywood set?

I can't remember.

There's been a lot. There's been a lot, but I'll try to try little bits of

everything.

I'm kind of like, make the most of it, you know, because not all catering's the

same. Yeah.

Did you ever work for Erika Lust?

I don't think so.

I went to Spain and worked for Erika Lust and that ruined American sets for

me. Oh, did they just have like the most... They had like a chef on set.

Oh. I follow her on Instagram now and we like fully became friends because I used

to cook before adult entertainment.

Yeah, I was like, whoa, like home cooked, amazing, healthy, hearty meals

every day.

Breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Yeah. That makes you be like, okay, I can't go to adult time set anymore.

No. I can't do.

No. Yeah.

I will say the food. That's always been a big thing for me is just the food.

I know they're doing their best, but yeah, that being on Erica Luss set made

me be like, oh, this is how it should be, in my opinion.

What it could be. What it could be, yeah.

That's definitely in people's budget. They're missing creativity and

adaptability and resilience.

That's what these companies are missing.

And chefs.

You need to hire chefs.

I almost want to start, because I'm not performing anymore, so part of me wants

to offer my skill sets for intimacy coordinating or cooking.

Yeah. That's the only way I'm going to get back on set, I feel like. Would you

do non-sex roles?

Or that.

It's kind of funny. It's really fun to roll up to set and you just pull up.

You're just there. You're like.

I remember these walls.

The last thing I just did, Holly was producing it.

It was just an acting role.

I was just like, this is so funny. Being in the makeup chair and knowing that

it's not ladies.

You don't have to shove a sponge up your ass.

No.

Just a regular day. Deliver your lines.

You just deliver your lines and you go home and you're like, oh, okay.

I don't feel as exhausted.

It's the best. I love it. I love background acting and just cameos.

It's so fun.

I saw you met Anthony Hopkins.

I do believe you mean the other British guy, Malcolm McDowell. That's who you

met. Sorry.

Malcolm McDowell.

So old and white. Sorry. They're so old now, yes.

Malcolm is so cool.

Yeah? Okay. I mean, both I think I would probably lose my shit.

You know what? I mean, I probably shouldn't say it, but it's the best

pickup line I've ever heard, and it's game.

He was like, if I was 45 years younger.

I would have been all over you like a wetsuit.

Oh, my God. I love that. Malcolm McDowell. That is the best.

No wonder he got around when he was young.

He's like, man, good thing you're not.

I wouldn't have been safe.

Yes, pretty much. He's like, oh, Lord.

I was his PA for two days and it was the best two days of my life. I was having a

great time. I love that.

He wears Rolex to keep it safe.

He just trusted me.

Wow. It's like you're his hot granddaughter or something for a few

days. Yeah. That sounds so fun.

Yeah. Yeah.

He liked my car.

Aw. That's very cool. Did he meet Puddles? Yes.

Yeah. Apparently, all the days that I was his PA, he was very happy compared

to the days I was not. The days you weren't. Yeah.

That makes sense.

I could be a PA, I feel like. I would be so happy just being a PA if

it was for Anthony Hopkins and Malcolm McDowell.

It's the best.

You just ask them a little question and they tell you their stories and you're

like, wow.

Wow.

Times are really different then.

Oh my God.

Yes. And you get to tell them crazy hot girl stories. They're just like, wow.

Right. They think it's like they met their match. But also, again, they're 45

to 50 years older. So it's like, OK, well, now they have this perspective.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, wow.

Yeah. Yeah. I do. I feel like porn girls probably have just as crazy as stories

as rock stars.

Yeah,

for sure.

Like with, yeah, just it's not even from being in porn. It's like from the stars

that hit porn stars up or like the events we attend.

Oh, definitely. And they're like, whoa.

Yes. Like, yeah, no, it's a time to be alive.

Some of the things I've seen.

Yeah.

Ages you.

Well, speaking of the industry, how has the industry changed since you got

started? Well, I mean, it's 2015.

Okay. So that's pre-OnlyFans.

Yeah. I'm a dinosaur.

I'm a veteran now, I guess. I feel like there's a different type of

feeling people have, the ones before OnlyFans versus the ones, like I'm part

of. I started with OnlyFans, so I feel like I have such a fun-loving

perspective of the industry.

But then there's all of you before it. It used to be a war.

Yeah, they're like, oh, honey.

Darling, you don't know what we've sacrificed.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, how has it changed since you got started?

Well, you know, I feel like the greatest, like...

depiction of what it was like before OnlyFans really shafted studio is

Pleasure, the film Pleasure that I'm in. Yeah, that's actually how I learned

about her. I didn't even know that you were actually in porn ever.

I went into doing more porn because I did that movie. I was like, well, might

as well just make it true since no one's going to be able to tell the difference.

Right.

That's crazy.

I just remember being like, yeah, you were just serving

the whole movie.

Yeah, me at 22 was just unstoppable.

I was kind of scary.

No, it was like that character was so, yes, exactly. Show the camera.

The worst part is you've got to pick a spot far away.

You gotta make sure the underside of your eyes show just a little, like a

little Kubrick stare moment.

You gotta combine that.

You gotta completely relax your face and not think about anything.

What makes it bitchy is the aloofness.

Aloofness, okay.

It's not that you are bitchy. It is that you're aloof. No, but that's the thing.

It's like you can't even tell if your character was supposed to be bitchy. You

were just like, this girl has a past.

Who is she?

When I watched that movie, I was like, whoa.

She has a past.

What does she go through? She's serving.

Pleasure to Evelyn, Claire, I mean, Ava, whatever.

Yeah. The funny thing is, is.

Ava Rhodes characters modeled after Lana Rhodes.

They couldn't get Lana Rhodes, so that's why they had me.

Thanks,

Lana.

Lana wouldn't have been able to translate as good.

I feel like that would have been way worse because the people that were in

the movie, like you, Casey, Small Hands, they were all, I don't

know, like...

people that I feel like are great for the industry, but Lana Rhodes has not

been the best person.

She's been a bit of a flip-flopper. Yeah, when it comes to how she feels

about the adult entertainment industry. What side are you on?

I mean, to be fair to her, her career has been really weird. Yeah.

That is not a normal career that has been replicated.

No.

I remember talking to Spiegler about it and he was like, I just

put her in front of all these brands.

He's like, I just, I knew she wasn't going to, I don't know.

I don't want to say anything too mean.

But he was pretty much just like, he knew she wasn't, at least didn't want to

be in the industry that long.

So he.

I put her in front of Playboy. I put her in front of Penthouse. I felt like that

was where she was going to go.

She doesn't like sex.

No. That's the biggest thing that defines a genuine person who should be

in the industry as an adult performer.

It has a bit of a perverted sense to them. You've got to be a pervert. That's

one of the first questions Spiegler asks you when you say, I want to be a

Spiegler girl.

He's like, are you a pervert?

Are you? Are you a sicko? Because if you're not, what are you doing here?

He's like, you're not going to enjoy this.

I think it's insane how rampant it is that girls use sex

as a form of self-harm.

Yeah. And, like, people need to be more aware of, like, when that behavior is

present and to not engage and, like, perpetuate, like, people's, like, weird,

like, need to be the victim.

But, like, they're traumatizing themselves in a weird way.

That's actually the most perfect way to describe that because I've talked to

people about it before and how, yeah, I just want.

younger women before they choose to do this kind of work to understand that

this isn't an escape and this isn't something you should be doing to,

yeah, as like a form of self-harm almost.

I feel like a lot of people find themselves, not even in the industry,

but in relationships as well outside.

In the normal world, in the realm.

Normal folk.

You know, I talk to guys and they'll be like, yeah, I had this girlfriend who

wanted me to hit her. And it's just like...

Okay, ladies, we need to have a chat.

We're scaring the boys.

We're scaring the boys. We're scaring them. They're traumatized now. We can

stop. We can stop.

They're just going to chill out.

Yeah, they don't.

They just want sex.

They're like, so many dudes are like, I'm so vanilla.

I'm so vanilla. They're scared.

I'm like,

please, don't hurt me.

It's okay to be vanilla, y'all. Can we just focus on communicating and

all that normal shit first before we're holding knives to each other's throats?

What is wrong with y'all?

Let's just get to know each other before we do that. The porn rot brain.

Yeah. The porn. I mean, that's why, I don't know, the only place I ever

explored.

I didn't even ever do anything hardcore, but working for kink.com has always been

a safe place for me.

I was never allowed to do it.

Spiegler was like, your skin is too fair. You'll get marked up and bruised,

and then you can't work.

That's fair.

He's like, you're too white to be kinky.

He's like, your skin's literally vanilla. You can't.

You can't go work for a cake. I got discriminated against.

Fucking Spiegler.

I love him.

Yeah.

Well, but that's the only place I ever felt safe doing it, but I never even,

like, did anything that crazy.

In your personal life or otherwise?

No, yeah. I've definitely never been, like, punch me in the throat, please.

I'm never, like... I got slapped once out of the middle of nowhere.

Like, I was having drunk sex.

And he slapped me.

In the face? In the face. And I cried.

Yeah. I cried and I went in the bathtub and I just cried some more.

Yeah. If that's like, if you didn't initiate it. What the hell was that for?

What did I do wrong? Yeah. You're like, excuse me. Is it because I'm a slut?

He thinks like, yeah.

That's the other thing too.

People always think that they're like, oh, if you do.

corn you are obviously down for anything and then they'll stick a finger

somewhere you're like excuse me or do that and you're like dude i'm actually

like especially off camera stuff i'm like i never i feel like we're so much

more controlled snuggle and it turn into something and then like kiss me on the

forehead while you're doing things but not if you slap me i yeah same thing i

would cry yeah i'd be like Why? You hate me. Yeah.

Why do you hate me? Why did I do?

What did your mother do?

First of all.

Yeah. This is something deeper and I'm not prepared to be your therapist.

I'm going to just block your number.

See you never.

oh okay what did you learn from being a cam girl that helped you grow on twitch

uh well just like how to use the fucking computer um

obs um finding out what stream keys are

no just like the basics yeah uh but like

Adult stuff is completely different than Twitch stuff.

Well, that's the thing. As much as they've been trying to blur, it's not

the same. It doesn't operate the same at all.

It's like, especially with any other platforms that adult entertainers use,

it's not as engaging.

I feel like you're really engaging with your fans when you do streams.

I try to read the chat.

Yeah. I try to remember.

You went live when we were at X-Biz, not this last year, but the year before. You

were like, hi, chat.

We're at X-Biz.

Yeah, I don't think I was supposed to do that, but I think they get more

publicity. They shouldn't be mad.

Yeah, no.

And I don't stream anything that's crazy.

No, it's not like you're like, yeah.

That was like, if you're going to stream anything that's adult entertainment,

that's probably the safest place.

Exactly. Because it's not.

It's pretty polished.

Yeah. Everyone's trying to be on their best behavior. It's an award show.

Owen and Small Hands kissed. It was iconic. I can't believe I got that on

camera. I know.

I need to get back on my bullshit, but to be honest, it is so embarrassing to

be her.

To be that girl who's Twitch streaming.

It is so embarrassing.

I'm not going to lie.

It's just...

It seems so nonchalant when you do it. I don't know.

Thank you.

Thank you. It doesn't seem embarrassing.

I try so hard to play it off like it's cool, but I feel like a huge dork.

You are a dork, but you're like a cute dork.

I was going to say you're a cute dork. I've got a bunch of weirdos in my phone

watching.

I'm like a spy.

I don't know. I just feel like I'm not supposed to be doing that.

Feels naughty. Feels naughty being on Twitch?

It feels bad and naughty. Yes. What the hell? In public.

In public.

Yeah, yeah. In public, it makes it really weird.

Yeah, I think I would feel too self-conscious, but... That's why the

stream is always up my nose.

Oh, yeah. Because I don't want to make people look at me.

I'm so shy.

Why am I here?

Why am I in this industry if I'm so shy? I need the audacity.

Well, you're also, I mean...

But you're a great actress, and I think you love to do any form of creativity.

Oh, man. And sometimes, I don't know, it's like being the shy person.

It can be a tool that you use because, I don't

know, I feel like if you're shy in your personal life, when you're acting,

you're kind of like, oh, this is the only time I'm going to feel okay with

being an extrovert or being this character.

getting to feel or be something different for a little bit.

I don't know. I always laugh because I feel like I get typecast as like the

mean girl or like kind of like the insidious one.

One with ill intent.

Right.

Ill intent.

That's true. I mean,

the thing we shot together.

Yeah, I was framed the entire time as the one who was trying to get her

husband murdered or whatever.

I was orchestrating all of it, like the evil woman I am, and it turned out to be

Scarlet.

not me i'm innocent i'm innocent i was framed the whole time i was plotting yes

but not okay but oh wow it's like gone girl but reverse gone man

wait gone guy i honestly did not watch i didn't watch gone girl i'm just assuming

that's what the plot is i was it just seemed

From clips I've seen that that's what it was anyways.

From what I remember is I needed your

character to do something.

You were part of the plan.

I remember shooting a shower scene with you. I don't remember much. Oh, yes. You

had two lines.

You're like, babe, what's wrong?

I'm just like, I can't talk about it. I think I was in a shower.

Oh, no.

I'm a cheater. I blocked it out of my mind.

I thought you... I mean, I was just such a small part in that, so I didn't really

read the whole script.

Okay, yeah. It was a noir.

Yeah.

Sorry. Well, I mean, that's all I remember is just the shower, so... Hey.

The pictures from that set look pretty good. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah,

they were really tasteful. Yeah.

For being dirty. For being very naughty. It was very tasteful stuff.

Yeah. Yeah.

Ooh.

What was your favorite dish from your childhood?

My favorite dish from my childhood.

Oh. Did you have a childhood? You seemed like somebody who was just an adult.

My mom discovered Farmville and Candy Crush.

and frontiersville and uh those games oh she she stopped raising me after that

so i was kind of on my own for a minute a lot of freezer freezer entrees from

casco freezer entrees from casco yeah so i think my favorite thing that

oh just like like a cheesy roll-up with like a quesadilla with fucking

cheese dude like just the most basic of like just have a good quesadilla there's

nothing in the fridge you know like there's this is what we're making this

is it's easy it's i'm a child

I'm a child.

Cheese is all I need.

That's fair. Yeah. Because you're from Washington?

Yep. From Washington.

You look like you're from Washington. Yeah. Yeah.

They don't look like me there either, though. Yeah. Yeah. You look like what

Bella Swan was supposed to look like. Yeah.

When they do the remake, I'm going to play her mom.

Really? Okay.

She doesn't have a mom. Yeah, she does. She has like...

In Twilight? In Twilight, isn't Bella Swan's mom dead?

No!

Where's her mom at?

Her mom should have been like, who the fuck is her boyfriend?

I know. No, her mom is like, it seems like, well, her mom raises her, but then

gets a boyfriend or something. It's like, you're going to move to Washington

with your dad.

Oh.

Oh. Or something.

Okay, yeah. Her mom is like, maybe a Florida? Yeah, I could play that

character.

Play the mom that's like, I have this new man and I don't want, you're just

too much now, so maybe you should go look for your dad. Put some crazy

lipstick on and put on glasses and big hat and leave.

Big hat.

Abandon your daughter.

Get in a topless car and take my top off too and drive away.

Bye, Bella.

Bye, Bella.

Be a great remake.

I would watch it.

Yeah. It'd probably be funnier than the original.

Yeah.

That's the thing about- Was there ever a porn parody of Twilight?

Did anyone ever do that?

I'm sure there's a million, but not as good as if I did it.

Right. That's why I mean- Not to be big dick energy here, but I know I'm the

best. Yeah.

No one else who could do it like me.

Wow. I guess I have a job to do. I'm not done yet. Yeah. Fuck.

That and Snow White.

Snow White. Yeah, that'd be a great one for you.

Wow. That'd be amazing. I'm trying to build like a cool glass coffin

situation.

You know, Prince Charming. Who's going to have a budget for that?

Dude, we just get some plexiglass. Oh, okay. And put some like flowers on the

holes.

We go to Home Depot.

Oh, okay. And like, I don't know how much plexiglass is.

However much plexiglass is. Whatever. We'll be fine. Yeah.

One afternoon, live stream it on Twitch, get paid to build it, you know? Boom,

we're fucking good.

Nothing but profits.

Nothing but profits.

That's all entertainment sometimes.

See, that's what that creativity is for.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Yeah. That's why you gotta have that.

What's the earliest memory you have of your mom?

Oh, my mom.

Oh.

I think my just earliest memory, though, in general, was sneaking out of bed.

Like, I'd sleep in her bed, and it was like a thunderstorm, and I snuck out of

bed. I wiggled all the way off the bed and crawled into the living room, and

there was just rain. I just remember looking at the streaks and just, like,

how it looked. It was just really pretty, and then I went back, crawled

back, and it's the first thing I remember.

Aw.

But... I guess that includes her.

She was just sleeping. She was there.

Supporting actor.

Unpaid actress.

Unpaid extra in that one.

What's the best piece of advice you received growing up?

My grandfather.

I need you to picture 6'5", large man, white Hanes shirt.

Light wash denim Levi's.

Rainbow suspenders.

Oh.

And a pistol in his back pocket.

Okay. Slick back sides.

Nice.

Yeah. Nice.

Yeah.

Yeah, he... Oh my god, sorry I got distracted talking about trying to let

you imagine this man first before I went into this.

What was the original question?

I'm so sorry.

My grandfather would tell me bits of advice before he'd take me to

school. With a gun in his pocket.

Amazing.

Boys lie.

Love. With the rainbow suspenders.

Boys lie.

That's the best piece of advice.

It's really hard to really top that one.

Boys will put you on a pedestal to look up your skirt.

That I was a little too young for.

But valuable nonetheless.

Grandpa, but valuable.

Wow.

And be kind to the natives.

Aw.

Nice. I took that one really seriously.

That's good. He didn't lie.

You're like, boys lie, grandpas don't.

Grandpas aren't boys.

Grandpas are just big boys.

Always be kind of the natives. I like that one.

At the time, I was like, that's really random.

Okay.

Do you know what tribes are up there in that area? There's the Spokane tribes.

I mean, it's all tribal up there.

There's hella tribes up there. Yeah.

Where I grew up, there was Yurok and Wiyot mostly.

I remember doing a field trip in elementary

school. I was about to say primary.

I'm like, we're not.

What is the primary, darling? I was like, we're not.

We're not.

proper no this is america oh god that was weird but did you go

to like a reservation or something like it's a field trip no that's what i feel

like people need to see but yeah i feel like if they went to reservations you

would see what natives deal with now but it's really awful actually like they

deserve a lot better like i mean i remember growing up and my mom And I

would go to this, it was called Two Rivers Casino Resort.

And it was in, like, I think, if I'm not messing up my campsites. But

I just always thought it was so weird and so kind of fucked up. Like, oh, here

you can have, you can live here. You can live here and you can make money off of

a casino.

That's what we give you. Yeah. That's what we give you. You're welcome.

It just seems so shitty.

They deserve so much more.

They deserve better.

What the fuck? What is that? What is that?

We went to some site, though,

where they still had, or maybe they rebuilt it, what their teepees and stuff

used to look like.

I don't think it was original.

Probably not.

I think it's important to keep all that stuff alive out here.

It's huge.

It's a big thing.

I have a friend.

She's Lakota. She's from the Lakota tribe.

She didn't even realize this until she got older.

Diet like natives are really educated on their diet so she started doing that

where she would go to reservations and teach kids about Like what natives

should be eating and what they should be avoiding yes reservations are

Given when the white man are deduced all that shit dairy about both shit. Oh my

yeah, God Yeah, I don't like my mom worked in the medical field and she'd

tell me like yeah no like one group of people who cannot handle alcohol they're

you know just their bodies are too pure Native American um folk because it's

just like they're yeah what the fuck is this poison like literally yeah

for sure anyway

I digress. I digress. I love lemon drops.

Yeah. You're like, but speaking of booze. I love lemon drops.

I am. She's really good at making lemon drops.

She made me one one time while we streamed and cooked.

That was lovely. A fond memory.

What is the best meal someone has ever cooked for you?

Oh, my God. This chick name.

Lomi came over, and I was like, what chick?

She made me, what was it? It was plantains and tacos.

They were vegan tacos. What else? Black beans, guacamole, and plantains.

But no, there's an orange.

Was it yam? Maybe sweet potato, yeah. Sweet potato.

Yeah, I'm like, what was it? There was an orange.

Ew. I know, that's why I was like, I think I put oranges in there.

No, yeah, I went over and made some tacos while we Twitch streamed. That

changed the way I've made tacos ever since.

Yeah, tacos can be really anything. I've made a good

breakfast taco, too. It's just mashed potatoes with some fried eggs.

It's so good.

And a tortilla and then some avocado.

Tacos. See what you're doing later.

Yeah, I'm like, I can eat tacos for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Really want to.

Who are some people that have helped you grow?

Okay. Well, I practiced this question in the mirror.

So my PR person told me. No, I'm just kidding.

I don't have one.

But it's just like when it comes to people helping me, I feel like this is

such an individual's journey.

Unless you have a support team behind you, you're on your own and you got some

people who might help you from different countries online.

Good luck.

My family has always been supportive.

That's awesome. I'm very privileged from that leaping point.

My colleagues.

All the people I've worked with, oh my God, I feel like I've had such a great

time just like get the best of the best sometimes.

And then obviously my community because free tech support is amazing and they

obviously buy my content and keep my lights on.

We love you guys.

We pay the bills. Literally the whole point.

Yeah. No, for sure. I feel like, no, no, I need to be better at.

giving more shout outs to the fans on here because Yeah, we wouldn't be doing

this doing this thing without them.

It's fun to movie It costs a lot it does it is an expensive thing to be a

producer mm-hmm That's what you got to tell them like hey Do you want to come

up producer you have all this money that we don't know to do with smart?

How about you invest in my film that I'm making I love I love the idea. I think

that's how they do it. I don't know

I think that's actually how they do it. I think that's actually how a movie is

produced.

Like, hey, you have money.

Do you want to do this thing? I'm trying to make a movie. I need at least $2,000.

I love that.

What is a life event that shaped you?

Oh, man. The life event that truly

shaped me um or just like what where it went where did it go wrong um

i think actually being put in pleasure

was kind of like where i was like oh my god like i have to leave it all

behind like this is like a new like i there's no going back right i had my own

trailer

I am the real deal now.

I got to take myself more seriously. I need to know that I am capable.

If I could do this, then I could do other things.

Anything in between.

I just gave myself permission to accept that, okay, I got this role

who's the whole . point is just to foil the main character.

That's kind of crazy.

Not just anyone can get that.

What am I going to do with that? Unfortunately, there's not a thousand

roles like that that they're trying to fill in Hollywood.

My fans are going to be sad and sore and disappointed when I grow old without

being a movie star, but it's fine.

I think that you still have so much time.

I don't...

I feel like I want more movies like that to happen. I feel like there needs to be

some more... Like pleasure? Yeah. Was it Neon Rated? Was that the production

company that did it? Or was it just independent?

No one wanted to touch it for a while.

They wanted recuts and stuff and take out the dicks.

Take out the dicks!

Fair.

By removing them completely.

Right.

Yes, because right in the first five minutes of the film, you're confronted

with John Strong's penis.

Oh my God, I forgot. It's a jump scare, but that's the point.

That was the point. It is, yes.

You're like, oh, that's what that looks like if you've never been in that

position before.

Yes.

There's a cock in your face.

Get to sucking.

Yes.

Yes.

Well, more, yes, just more.

I don't know, more like art house, but still adult, but still, I don't know,

like something along those lines. I know. It's difficult to shoot this stuff

because it either glamorizes it too much or it focuses on the trauma of it too

much. Yeah, it makes it bad. It's hard to do a realistic portrayal. Yeah.

I know. I don't think I've ever seen anybody, and I feel like even pleasure.

I feel like they could make a movie. I wasn't on set, but I feel like from what

I did see, they were trying to do the best they could without being in the

adult entertainment industry. I mean, they were, though. Like, all the people,

like, Brynn and Casey, they were part of, like, it was so accurate.

Everything was so accurate. Yeah, it was. For sure.

Even just, like, the events.

I love that McBlue plays the director.

He's like Greg Lansky or whatever the fuck he's supposed to be.

Okay, now you go down on her. Him and his Austrian accent.

Actually, I think she has a yeast infection.

I know.

Fuck. Your famous line. My famous line that I'll always be known for. Because

you're just serving face most of the movie.

And then my actual lines is the most severe gut-wrenching.

Like, below to the ego, a girl could never hurt you.

I know.

I think she has an infection.

Yeah.

Oh, my God.

The worst part was is Sophia, before we got started, she cried. Oh. Because she

was supposed to, like, rough me up and stuff. And she's not an aggressive

person at all. So, like, it was very outside of.

who she is as a person to even lay her hands on me in an aggressive manner,

even if it's just playing and fake and... Yeah, acting.

I had to be like, if you hurt me, I liked it.

You know, just to make her feel... Egger on. Yeah, like... Aw.

And so it was all hammed up. I was not injured or hurt in any form in that

movie. No, yeah.

Was it... Where you get... Did she actually put the...

I, in a sound booth, brought a dildo and was actually making those noises.

But not in that scene.

I mean, I did have my mouth on it for just continuity.

I went all the way.

I went for it. I'm like, no, why not just shoot the real thing?

Fuck it.

Shoot it the way you guys want, but I'm going to not make this fake.

Love it. Was there an intimacy coordinator for that?

Me. Okay, yeah. I'm like, everyone was their own.

Kind of. I feel like, yeah. There was on different sets, but for me and

Sophia, no, it wasn't really like choreographed. I'm surprised. Well,

not even for that, but just for, yeah, I guess for like that situation. That's

probably also why she was so like. Yeah, checking in with her.

Where's this going to come from?

That's what, yeah.

We need more intimacy coordinators. I feel like even like Hollywood doesn't

really have them. I've talked to people that, you know, actors and it's,

yeah, they'll tell me like the scenes that they have to do and they're like

wearing a sock and then they're like, I don't want to make this girl

uncomfortable.

And I'm like, I can't believe you guys don't have intimacy coordinators.

What do you mean? As an actor, you're just supposed to know how to be

intimate. Just like that. Just like that.

Whoever's in front of you, you're supposed to just know their soul.

Your character does in the movie. You should do.

Exactly.

Oh, my God.

Oh, man. You ever be having a scene with somebody and you're like, we are so

disconnected. We are in two different planes of reality right now.

Well, I had that happen one time.

Was it with me?

No.

You can say so.

No, it was with a guy.

With girls, I feel like it's always easy to tap in and just be like, hey, what's

up? I don't know. It's way from Giselle's interview earlier. She was

like, I definitely feel like I have a guard up more with men. I feel like it

is like whether we meet two or not, it's like.

because we know it's a job um but i feel like sometimes you can go into

a scene and you're still like in that mindset like they're taking something

from you but with girls it's like oh we're just having fun isn't it great

that we get paid to do this like when you're with girls on set it's like a

slumber party it's like a fun

We touched each other.

Do I kiss?

How do I talk about this?

I had a scene with a girl and I could just tell how straight she was.

Oh, that sucks.

But the worst part is when we flipped over and she's like,

wow, you're really gay.

You're like, okay.

Is that not the point?

What do you want from me?

You're like, oh, I'm sorry.

I guess I shouldn't have been that good at that.

Sorry. Did I make you feel too good?

You forgot your fiancé for a second.

I don't know. I don't know. Right.

Who knows what these girls have got dealing with. I know.

I know.

Want to take a walk on the wild side and waste my time.

Kidding.

Well, we've all been there.

But, yeah, I think the only time I've ever felt.

Because, yeah, I definitely feel like I've worked with girls that I have that.

with where i'm like i don't really want to be here but i feel like i'll still

just like girls can still forget about it for a second and just be like oh like

we're just friends talking so it can i feel like i could connect with them more

easily for a scene but when a guy is like not when his testosterone is low or

like he has nothing to do with you you're just like okay this is yeah yeah

you're like yeah because then you check out and then you're like oh this is just

This is going to be a long day, I guess.

Someone tweeted, why don't they ever show the five minutes of jerking off

because you're trying not to get a girl pregnant in porn?

I'm like, they cut that out.

They cut that part out.

That's 90% of the finishes.

It's just a dude.

Hunched over, just sweating.

Oh my god.

And then you're just laying there like, yeah.

I know.

You're like, this is so hot. I'd love to watch you do that.

Just because you want them to fish faster.

Have you ever...

said some wild shit or just you know done what has to be done to get it over

with for sure i was i was live streaming on a naughty site and um this guy

paid for a private and i opened the cam i don't usually do it but i was feeling

generous anyways my friend was with me and she's like oh wow you know like

and he's just like starts like spinning it and i'm like Wow,

that is the most floppy I've ever seen.

And then he came.

He's like, whoa, I love how she knows how floppy it is.

That gets me off.

The flop gets me off.

Whoa.

Yeah, so I learned that recently.

That can happen.

I don't know what I would do.

You just laugh. Yeah, I was going to say, I definitely couldn't keep a

straight face. No, why would you? Why would you?

Why would you? If you've got a pretty smile, laugh away.

Uncomfortably be like, okay.

It was genuinely funny.

I mean, no, for sure.

That's what did it for you?

Yeah.

Whoa.

That's crazy.

Whoa.

Damn.

Sorry, this has become a very X-rated podcast.

I know.

You'll have to bleep out half of the shit I say. It's okay.

Where's some unpopular food opinions you have?

Unpopular food opinions.

Most guys eat like trash and they refuse to level up and eat better because

they're just so hungry.

Sorry, I needed to vent.

Yeah. That was not the answer you were looking for.

Have you had some bad dates recently?

Okay. You're like, they keep taking me at Chick-fil-A and I just can't.

More like they just can't cook steak.

Oh.

That should start being the bare minimum.

It's like if a man doesn't know how to cook a steak, don't give him the time of

day. I can understand the appeal of being like, I'm a caveman. I cook like a

caveman. I'm so primal and tribal. I'm so primal.

Big man.

Big dog over here. Big dog over here. Eat my meat.

Oh my God. I don't cook my meat all the way because I don't know how.

Or they cook it medium to well done and you're like, this is dog food. At least

I know I'm not going to get worms or something. I don't know.

You know what I'm saying?

Have you had sex with someone who has worms? No. Okay.

As far as I know.

It's important to do parasite cleanses.

An unpopular opinion is parasites are nasty.

I don't think that's a popular one.

We shouldn't be eating them.

I think Timon and Pumbaa from The Lion King did a lot of damage to children

because they ate bugs. Those bugs look delicious though.

I don't know who did the...

who drew those bugs, but those bugs look delicious.

They're like, let's make them look like berries.

Yeah.

Berries with legs.

Yeah. They look juicy.

They definitely look fulfilling. If I was living in Africa, I'd be like, oh,

fuck. You're a vegetarian.

Yeah. Yeah.

You're a pit.

You're a what? Warthog, I think. Warthog, yeah.

And a meerkat.

Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. Fact check. Fact check.

What is the most important thing to you right now?

The most important thing right now is, you know, just getting my health, you

know, perfect. I want to just, I don't want to feel so tired. I feel tired a

lot.

So I want to get that back together.

I'm kidding.

Whoa. Whoa.

At least I'm not alone.

I thought I was single. No, they're in my skin. Just what I always want.

Oh, my God.

I'm sorry. I already forgot.

What's the most important thing to you right now? Oh, yeah. Not worms.

Actually, so... Oh, okay. Never mind.

You know, growing your own food is not that fucking hard.

But, you know, you can make your own dirt, too.

You can make your own food and you can make your own dirt by making your own

food. It's a never-ending fucking cycle, bro. That makes sense. And so you can

use worms in a worm farm to help compost and use the worm castings to

feed your garden.

And it's like the best fertilizer ever.

So that's what's the most important thing to you right now?

Restoring the earth.

Restoring the earth, for sure. For the future generations to have delicious

crops, yes.

Okay, that's fair. But also making paintings.

Yeah. I've been wanting to make more paintings. Yes. On a serious note, my

goal is to finish five paintings this year, like masterpieces.

Ooh, I can't wait to see.

How did you get started with painting?

My mom put some supplies in my hands, and I just was left to my own devices,

and that's all I did.

I just got really good.

By the time I was like 16, I was like better than most of my peers.

I was like, I'm not going to art school. That's fucking stupid.

I know how to make art. I'm an artist. I don't need to go to school to learn how

to make art.

No, for sure.

I took some college courses for free.

Oh, free?

Yeah, I did like the...

the extracurricular or running start sort of thing when you're in high

school. Running start.

Yeah, I did not drop out. No.

I took extra courses.

Yeah, I was going to say, we have some debunking.

Was that what that was one?

Yeah, I graduated.

Yeah. And I spoke at graduation.

She actually was the, she graduated with honors.

I literally did.

That was like cool.

How did that even... Do people just assume that? They're like, oh, she does

porn. She must have dropped out or... No, so... How did that get started?

There was some weirdo that decided to make some weird bio and a bunch of fake

information that's just like bullshit.

There needs to be better people like gay to choose who gets to put what on

Google.

Yeah, no, and it's so fucked that you can't just get...

things taken down.

Especially its defamation.

Yeah, I've read some false things about me. Well, nothing like that, but I've

read people have put that I'm a Christian, and I'm like, definitely not.

Aren't you God-fearing?

I'm God's favorite, but I'm not a Christian.

Don't you know we're all going to be saved?

Yeah, I was like, what? Soon.

Yeah, we're just... I don't know like random things but yeah it's just always

weird when you look well first of all google yourself and then yeah you're

like oh I didn't know that yeah no it's fucked up because I got turned down I

got whoa well for the better this guy was weird but he googled me I meant like

for a job thing no no no one cares I'm so hot and so talented, it does not

matter. Oh, good.

But to a random stranger who wants to just hook up with me or possibly marry

me and make me have his children or something, he's going to care that I did

porn. Oh, for sure.

So when he Googles me, he's just like, yeah, so I'm afraid I'm going to have to

cancel our date because I Googled you, saw you have an OnlyFans, and I

don't date community people.

What? Which is Corpo speak for the streets.

I screenshot it because it's hilarious.

I don't date community people.

What a child.

I posted that shit, dude. It got like 500,000 views.

He saw it.

For someone who says he doesn't have social media, he saw it.

He's like, why did you post it?

Yeah, because you're like, well, that was a ridiculous thing to say.

Because you're funny.

You're like, I thought I was hilarious.

I was just showing the world how funny you were. You're a funny guy.

I'm just a funny guy. I'm just a funny guy.

You're so silly.

You're just so silly.

It's the best way to respond to people who hate on sex workers.

You're so silly.

Oh, my God.

You're a hoot.

Bye.

My cheeks hurt when I talk to you.

Wow.

There's actually a question here that I wanted.

What slash who do you want to do on camera that you haven't done yet?

What do I want to do? Who or what?

Let's go with what?

What would I like to do on camera that I have not been able to do? There's so

much. There's so many things.

Porn is very limiting.

Well, let's not even just say in that realm.

Yeah, no, I'm like... We've been on real sets before, so... I feel like... What's

like... I'm very curious.

Something vampire gothic, like Blade, like kind of the crow.

The Queen of the Damned. Anything that is dark edgy vampire shit, I feel like I

am primed for that. Again, vampire parody, let's go. They don't even need

to put makeup on you and make you look white.

They don't. I have the special effects built in and just put the prosthetic

fangs on. We're good.

Yes, literally.

You're like, you know how much money you're saving?

Putting me in a makeup chair?

Your budget will be cut in half.

Yes.

You will profit double because of me. Yes. I am so cool.

Exactly. Bitches love me. Your mom loves me. Your dad wants to fuck me.

Whoa.

I don't know. That was just me trying to be really confident for a second.

You're killing it.

You're doing great, sweetie.

Thanks, mom.

I talk to guys and they'll be like, yeah, I had this girlfriend who wanted

me to hit her. And it's just like, mm-hmm.

Okay, ladies, we need to have a chat.

We're scaring the boys.

We're scaring the boys. We're scaring them. They're traumatized now. We can

stop. We can stop.

They just want sex.

So many dudes would be like, I'm so vanilla.

I'm so vanilla. They're scared.

I'm like,

please, don't hurt me.

It's okay to be vanilla, y'all. Can we just focus on communicating and

all that normal shit first before we're holding knives to each other's throats?

The local scene.

Growing up downtown.

Downtown? Oh, in Washington?

Yeah, I don't want to name drop everything.

I just love the hardcore scene so much. Yeah. And, like, the local bands. So,

like, I don't, like, listen to, like, specific bands or mainstream shit. But

it was, like, all about the local.

Like, they're my favorite people ever.

I feel so, like, safe and at home around a bunch of people just, like, who look

like they're going to kick someone's ass. Nice.

I love it.

Well, after hearing your grandpa's story, that makes sense. It makes me

feel at home. Yeah.

You're like, oh, these people are terrifying. I love it.

This is safe.

This is safe, for sure.

I feel like the scariest looking people are always the cuddliest.

Yes.

That's how I felt when I met you. I was like, wow, she's so nice.

She's actually not mean.

She's like, yeah, and you're just so like.

We're just here.

Yeah. I met you at X3.

two years ago yeah you were talking johnny since i was like okay i've shot

with johnny enough so i was like johnny i was just using johnny to talk to you i

was like oh i loved you and pleasure and then like a few days later she's like do

you want me my date to ex-biz i was like oh my god me yeah it's like she's so not

mean this is great no i'm a i'm a friendly friendly person and like the

biggest thing about this industry is i feel like you know it's my closest like

closest touch to like some people that are like from the

same cloth you know like because what am i gonna really have in common with

somebody who hasn't like yeah he doesn't know what it's like yeah no for sure

it's difficult

I think we have another producer question.

Yeah. We know that your painting came from your mom's influence, but when it

comes to Twitch, do you think you got the gaming bug from her too?

Oh, no.

So, yeah, my mom had the severe addiction, right? I was the one who

invited her to play the games. Oh.

But I quit. I quit before she did. Yeah. She just kind of... Took over.

Yeah. What rank are you in the league?

I'm going to get out of iron someday.

This isn't a question.

I put your one sheet together. So I'm sorry about the alternative school

thing. But I read like three different articles in the background on all three

of them said that you dropped out of high school. So I'm sorry, but that's

really fucked up.

Never dropped out.

I mean, for clarification, what went down was... Okay.

All right, this bitch, bitch-ass English teacher thought she was hot shit.

Fucking hag.

Hag.

She's failing me, and I called my mom, and she called the school,

and she's like, what does my kid need to do to fix her grade?

Oh, okay. And she said, come in and take a spelling test.

All right, easy.

Spelling bee?

Just like a, you know. Yeah.

What does these words mean?

Okay.

And so I studied all night. And the next day I come in and I take the test.

And I'm ready. I'm ready to do it. And I even cheated a little bit on the ones

that were a little hard. Like the big fat ones.

What the hell is that? Yeah. I wouldn't use that in a sentence.

Yeah. Ever.

But okay.

And I was ready.

I was going to save my grade.

And she says, have you ever thought of checking yourself into the mental

hospital?

I was like, fuck you. Why does she have such an agenda?

Fuck this school.

And I fucking left. And I just like re-enrolled in a different high school.

Okay. I just was like... Maybe it was that English teacher that wrote all

those articles.

Yo.

Hag.

Fucking hag.

Also, how bad at spelling do you have to be to have someone think you need to be

in a mental hospital? Yes, I'm not tripping about this at all. It's a test.

I've taken a lot of these.

She wrote shape. She's like, you're retarded.

Yeah. She read too many of my essays.

Yeah.

Maybe that. I don't know. That's just such a weird thing to say to a student.

To prevent me from saving my grade, which was making me sad. Yeah.

You're like, you know what? You obviously have something, some other

agenda with me.

Yeah. Maybe she wanted to bane. I don't know. She was just really old and

archaic in ways of like, you know.

Like, I was a little... I like attention, but I'm a one-on-one person.

Like, I don't thrive in... Oh, same. I'm mostly homeschooled. I can't do

classrooms. Yeah, like, once I have a tutor or someone just to walk through

something, I'm, like, a fucking genius.

You know, I require very little help. It's just a matter of, like... If

someone's talking in a classroom, like...

But if they're talking to you, hey, Loomy.

Yeah. Because then you also feel like you have to be more accountable. If

they're just talking to the classroom, you're like, this obviously doesn't

concern me. So I'm going to just do my own thing.

My mom said my first day of kindergarten, the teacher was like,

okay, it's nap time. And I just like walked out of the classroom and went on

the swings.

You're like, I'm not tired.

Yeah, I was like, that doesn't make sense. You can't just make me take a

nap.

They called my mom and were like, so she can't do that. And my mom was like, I

don't know what to tell you.

Your mom seems very cool.

She is cool.

I was a weird kid. I was definitely a kid that everyone told her put me on

Ritalin.

Oh, no.

Were you bouncing off walls? No, I wasn't a hyper kid. I was just a kid

that didn't like to be controlled.

I also didn't throw tantrums. I wasn't a kid that, I don't know.

Did you ever beat up anybody?

No, I wasn't like that. Well, my brothers, but that's...

That doesn't count. That doesn't count.

They deserved it.

I don't even know them, but I believe it. Yeah.

I'm the oldest. I have to teach them. Oh, as you should. Yeah. I was just

teaching about before anybody else beat their ass. It's the right passage of

older sisters.

Exactly.

No one else can beat you up but me. Yeah, and then that, because then when

my brother actually got his ass kicked, then I talked to those boys and was

like, you don't fucking...

get to touch my brother only i get to beat my brother up i will kick your ass

next and i was that sister i was like the oldest and had three brothers well

one brother and two stepbrothers and yeah anytime i i it's like at home i'm

like god they're so irritating but as soon as i heard someone else like fucked

with them i'm like oh hell no like that's

I would get emotional or like sad when I heard that and then would want to beat

the shit out of those kids.

But I never did. I didn't get in fights really.

I was just a kid that just had, I don't know if like ADD or something, just

distracted. Just wanted to do my own thing. Wanted to color. Didn't want to

do math. I was just like, this doesn't make sense.

So I can relate on that level with teachers trying to... put you in a box

and you're like, well then screw you.

It sounds like you were trying to meet her halfway and she just... I was so

ready for her challenge.

Right, you're like, I'm just... My mom knew about it. There was pressure.

You're like, I was gonna just write some words and I guess... It was like 25

words. And at that point, I don't know, it's just... I invested the whole night

prior to studying.

She wasn't gonna let me do it?

Yeah, at that point it's like, alright, I'm just...

Not good.

Teachers can be weird. Once a teacher goes on a power trip, they have lost

authority. They have lost the whole purpose of what they're there to do.

If you don't clock a student that's clearly got an attention disorder,

if you don't realize this is somebody who needs a little bit of extra.

That's why I homeschooled mostly.

I never felt shame about it, but I feel bad for kids that did.

I feel like I knew a lot of kids growing up who got shamed.

It wasn't like they were dumb.

It was that it's either ADD or on the spectrum or just, I don't know, teachers

just being like, they want to put you in this box and they want you to just act a

certain way.

You're pretty much trying to...

I don't know, you're suppressing something in this child and they need to

feel safe. They need to feel like they can just be themselves.

And shaming them and making them feel like dumb or weird.

There's something inherently wrong with them. Yeah, then that's like you're

setting them up for more failure than helping them.

I never felt more punk rock than the day I told that teacher to fuck herself.

the power flowing through my veins.

You took that power back.

Yeah, I know.

Sometimes you gotta.

Some teachers deserve to be told off.

I was a good writer too. I took college writing and A's.

It's not that I struggled.

She was just a horrible teacher.

I did not drop out. I did not drop out.

I did not drop out of high school. I graduated.

Last fucking time.

I swear to God, if I ever... I have a diploma.

You're like, I'll prove it.

You should have brought that.

Are there any more producers?

Okay. Well, where can the fans find you?

Well, I am live streaming on twitch.tv slash official Evelyn Claire and...

If you're an OF Spicy site member, club Evelyn Clare.

Oh, wow.

It's a club.

You can just be a part of the club.

Evelyn Clare is just, or love Evelyn Clare. Just Google Evelyn Clare, but

don't go look at any articles. Don't read the articles because they're

fucking fake. They're apparently written all by that poor English teacher.

She even accuses me of murdering my relatives.

and that's how like she thought you were like spooky i don't know i thought you

were some wednesday adams i didn't wear black in high school i wasn't allowed to

wear black did you look like this no oh no i had blonde hair yeah girl i was

different she yeah no like what's that's like a personal it was so yeah yeah she

was she was she knew yeah did you ever you i mean you've seen like the x

trilogy right like x pearl maxine

maybe it was like that like x like she's like oh this bitch is everything i

was supposed to be and i need to murder her and all her friends now but you

escaped i did i told her to fuck herself i feel like kids need to not

be afraid to do that yeah when a teacher is genuinely like wrong yeah especially

if they're attacking

your mental health yeah or like a disability or yeah anything i feel like

don't don't hit them no don't physically do anything fight them with your words

yeah tell them to go fuck themselves and then be like yeah fuck fuck yeah punk

rock and then leave listen to pink floyd and then go home well

you guys can find me you know where to find me louis me ray uh

Thank you for tuning in and thank you for joining us, Evelyn.

We will see you guys next time. It was fun chat.

Thanks, chat.

Good chat for the chat.