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Can you explain what we do?

We stopped for a moment to friend left. He has friends here who

they are waiting for us.

He must grind with them.

We won't be able to get through without this, right? Us they won't let me in.

This place is closed even to ordinary people local residents.

And Afghans from other provinces do not go there get in.

They won't be allowed in, they can't go there.

No, no, no.

Our guide Khabib is one of the young Taliban officers. But he is alone

afraid to accompany us there.

The most protected place seems to be ours arrived.

Wait to shoot. Don't take it off. We don't want so that they start to get nervous. Yes, yes, yes.

First you need to get permission.

OK. I try to keep filming, but neatly. We still don't have permission.

And it seems that even the children are looking at us with suspicion. Someone to our guide

drives up and, having said a few words to him, drives off further.

It seems the path is closed. They don't give us permissions.

What if I ask again? If there is a lot ask, then a refusal may be sent with

bullet. But we don't give up. Khabib again calls somewhere, and after a few minutes

a pickup truck drives up to us, heavily packed armed Taliban.

Hello, Stas. My name is Stas.

I hold the camera on my lap, but I don't I stop filming. And I don’t understand, to be afraid

me or rejoice because she has arrived Taliban groups. They seem to be smiling.

Look, one of them has gold on his hand watch. Maybe a fake, or maybe a trophy? They

repeat thermamat. What is Thermamat?

It means welcome. Ah, good welcome. Okay, okay. A big one has arrived

number of Taliban with different weapons. A can I, can I take pictures? May I

shoot, guys?

Yes? Fine.

OK.

Let's say we leave here alive?

Now I'm not sure anymore.

It seems to me that Khabib's friends are determined positively and ask us to follow

them. You brought good luck with you. We Actually, we don’t believe in luck. But I'll tell you

you, something in your energy. Because that they don't allow anyone there

get in. We tried many times before agree. Yes. We were forbidden. But on

this time... I hope we pass. I I hope we will go there and come back.

So now we're chasing the group hard armed Taliban directly to Tora Bora.

Directly to the most closed mountain refuge in Afghanistan, where Bin Laden was hiding

and Moolamar.

Caves where Bin Laden and his fighters have been hiding for so long. These mysterious

The caves are located in the mountains of Torabora.

Ironically, the creation of this complex caves were paid for from America to

help the Mujahideen fight the Soviets Union.

American special forces are sent to пещеры Тора Бора.

Osama Bin Laden's troops or his bodies идут от пещеры к пещере в горах Тора

Bora.

America continues to strike Torah Bore.

Planes bomb mountain ranges.

There's movement. Control. They have a car.

Your mother.

We are climbing higher and higher into the mountains. All further from civilization. All villages

less. And the driver of the pickup truck just drives to the fullest. Like crazy.

Below us.

Valley and individual villages. And it seems every local resident already knows that in

Strangers are coming to Toroboro.

These are the same guys for many years We've been here as observers for years.

We were keeping an eye on who was going to Torobora, that what kind of people are they allowed or

not allowed, and reported accordingly, to the caves.

To prepare there.

Today is a story about one of the most closed countries of the world - Afghanistan. And one thing

one of the most odious movements on the planet - Taliban.

In the minds of so many people all this simply called in one word -

terrorists.

You will see how Kabul lives.

where, when entering a restaurant, you have to hand over your Kalashnikov.

Automatic voucher?

Let's take a look into his ghetto.

This is the place under the bridge behind me Until recently it was the most terrible place

Kabul.

Let's walk through the streets and markets.

You know, I wouldn't say that here market...

But there are no women at all. And we will even come to alone on a visit, which under the current order

The country has incredible luck.

This is a unique opportunity for me talk to a woman in Afghanistan.

So let me ask you a few questions about your daily routine

life.

Can I speak completely as it is?

And we will definitely go to where for many years those who came hid

is now in power in Afghanistan. Sinister and an impregnable fortress, a network of caves

deep in the mountains on the border of Afghanistan and Pakistan, where even military translators

they were afraid to carry foreign journalists.

They say they will kill the translators. They they kill translators, you know?

They kill. That's it.

They'll kill me.

But that's your job. My job? Die for you? Why is this? I'm paying you.

We are going to the Taliban bastion. Torah Boru.

We are in tribal land in Afghanistan. Let's go behind a pickup truck with heavily armed

Taliban to a place where for many years the most wanted man on the run

planet. Osama Bin Laden.

This territory has not been was controlled by no one. And now

remains the same. I'm Stas Natanzon. And Afghanistan today, how do you see it?

definitely never seen. Let's go!

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Where did you get this hat? That's it, now you hoist.

Well, he's definitely a Taliban.

The Taliban is such a traitor.

Original Taliban and fake Taliban.

First, let's buy fabric. Let's take the fabric to to a tailor, and he will sew you clothes. By morning

everything will be ready.

Guys, we are now choosing colors for their future Afghan outfits.

We already have hats.

And that’s it, let’s mingle with the crowd and generally be invisible.

You take three suits, you get Kalashnikovs free. There's a promotion here.

How does it suit me in general? Tell me what you are What do you think about this hat? What are your

thoughts? I have this cutout in front, it as if...

I don't know if it's embarrassing or pleasing. Not even I know what to say about this.

Before traveling around the country we need change clothes In Afghanistan I'm with my

biker friends Yuri Volkov, who have traveled almost the whole world on a motorcycle,

and Oleg Shevlyakov. We are accompanied local guides Asadla and Saif.

The little secret is that no one here wears underwear. You just put it on

pants without panties.

So you don't have anything there?

Well, there is something, but I won't show it.

OK.

I don't even know if I'll ever life sewed an outfit like this or not, so that

he was exactly right for me. It seems like once I made my own suit this way.

But that was many, many years ago.

Eat first, and then measure, yes, to?

Here, guys, there is a whole separate store with vests.

Look how many different vest. But these are more

unloading It's military style, right? Yes, here you can fit everything in

pockets. Passport, money, even your own Makarov. Do you have Makarov there?

Yes, Makarov.

Well, yes, passport, money and Makarov. Only This. What else could be useful?

life? What more could you want, right?

What color do you like?

How do you like it?

I think it's cool.

How?

Basically just a boss. Just a boss. Boss.

Yes. Yes, here you go.

Who has the problem?

No problem.

No more problems.

So, so what?

Are we starting to merge?

You are just a Cossack-talik.

We're going to buy some local Afghani SIM cards.

Let's see how much communication costs in Afghanistan and is it difficult to get SIM cards?

issue. It’s already easy for us, look, a whole crowd of kids got involved,

who watch our every move.

This is how salam is traditionally made here. And then they shake hands. That is, you first

put your hand on your shoulder, and only then handshake.

You see, there are only men in this room. If a woman wants to buy a SIM card, then

There is a female employee here. Behind this there's a woman sitting against the wall, right? She's working

behind this screen. And there's only a woman here can serve a woman to a woman

it was more comfortable not to look at her man.

I've always been interested, but... for example, at the border or here, on

checkpoints when they need to see your face for checking. There will be a woman there.

Policewoman who will conduct an inspection.

Look, you're filming like this, you're talking like blah blah blah. Yes, you mean? No,

listen, that's what you say blah blah blah blah blah. Now look, I

I take your hand and move it like this. Yes, yes, you're right. And now you can be seen

much better. Yes, yes. So?

Too much? Too much.

I only see the back of your bald head. Yes, got it.

This is the world's most famous bald man back of the head This is what the Taliban teach me

shoot videos.

Welcome to Afghanistan.

So guys, internet prices in Afghanistan.

33 gigabytes, 450 in Afghanistan.

But we will take the maximum package, 60 gigabyte, 1350 afghani.

That's about $20 for 60 gigabytes. Is this a lot or

not enough? What do you think?

This is where money changes.

It made a difference, see? Right on the street change?

Right on the street.

This is how safe Afghanistan is now.

So safe that no one here does anything afraid.

This is what guys look like here regular exchange offices where you can

change dollars. Basically, of course, They accept dollars in Afghanistan.

Course now that we are in Afghanistan, 64 Afghani per dollar

approximately. You see, they're just lying there money.

And you change them.

Look, now they're stealing money.

He wasn't even scared, didn't even flinch. There's nothing to be afraid of.

He knows that no one steals.

Nobody steals like that here.

Went.

After the Americans leave in 2021 Afghanistan's economy collapsed. Currency

Afghanistan fell to the dollar by two times.

A year after the Taliban took power in Afghanistan. All the signs are here

that the country is economically free fall.

People fled the country, sometimes very recklessly clinging to the military

transport workers. I tried to escape from Afghanistan in any way possible.

Car traffic jams at Kabul airport people.

It seemed to these people that, together with security is leaving the country by the military,

money and hope for the future.

Our country is now at an end.

Afghanistan is no more.

Our friends were killed. They just killed him. U our women will no longer have rights.

I left everything there.

I even left the cats at home.

The media often they say that in Afghanistan women

prohibited from going out. The most the scary part here is that you don't

you won't see a single woman. Half the country's population is hidden behind high

fences.

The Taliban have launched a killing campaign working women.

It seemed that the country would plunge into the abyss civil war and chaos.

It was at this time that Asadullah and Saif packed our things and decided to return to

a homeland that you have never been to life, from the USA to Afghanistan.

So, can you explain this to me? You Do you remember the moment when you decided

return to Afghanistan?

Well, it's actually always been mine a dream really.

Return and live in your own country.

The problem was that there were constantly war. And you just couldn't go back and

live in your own country because of all these political problems.

And that's when the pro-American the government collapsed, I got

faith in the new authorities. This is before arrival here. Yes.

Because I followed the development events. For me this did not happen in

one day. It's all been developing for a long time.

And so I decided that now is the best moment come. At first I decided to just

look. Come and see.

Understand what's really here is happening.

And when I arrived, I thought I would spend here 30 days, fight here for a month, that’s it

look and come back.

But in reality, when I arrived, I I came and just fell in love with my country.

This is part of my essence.

Have you been here before?

No, I've never been to Afghanistan in my entire life. life.

What I was told on the news is not always turned out to be true I would even

said that there was almost nothing true Real life is here completely

differed from what I was convinced of all my life through social networks and means

mass media

And I realized that my country needs me. Us there are not many who speak

-English. I know how to build connections. I I decided that this would be my mission.

Tell the world the truth about Afghanistan. This country needs help. This country

very poor. But I'm here to help to his people.

Since our trip to Afghanistan we met people quite often

those who returned here after 2021.

These two guys came up to us in one from the parks and I was surprised that they

speak perfect English. I studied in America. Oh, did you study in America?

How many years did you live there?

Type 4 or 5.

4 or 5 years, and then your parents brought you to Afghanistan. Yeah. And you,

did you live in America too? Yes.

What do you guys remember about life in America? And with your life here it is

comparable? Yes, kind of the same thing.

The same?

Exactly the same. Really? The same?

You were born and raised in America.

And now you come here.

Didn't some things seem strange to you?

No. Well, why don’t women even have cars? It's forbidden to drive and stuff like that.

No, I'll tell you honestly. After all, my mother and Dad is both Afghan. And this culture... I'm in

grew up in this culture, even though I grew up in America.

For the whole world it seems strange, seems unusual. Women can't

drive a car. Oh my god, what's up?

This is wrong. But for the locals It's very normal here.

This is the norm for this place, you know? Not the whole world is like America. You're driving around

the world, you see different places. And in many places wow, everything is different. But for the locals

this is the norm. And here is the ban on women drive a car. This is the norm. Actually

cars are a very new thing for Afghanistan. Many things for Afghanistan

still new. And only Allah knows that will come next.

Maybe sooner or later women are here will be able to drive cars. I personally don't mind

for women to drive cars if they need to go somewhere. And now for now

it's too early to expect such changes immediately took place in the country,

who just got out of the war, which lasted more than 40 years.

And we need education. Lots of talk about that women are not allowed to study in

Afghanistan. Personally, I don't mind for women to study. But you all should

just open your eyes and understand the situation in Afghanistan.

The situation in the country began quickly change. Already in 2023, Afghanistan became the most

fastest growing currency in the world.

Instead of 110 Afghani per dollar they now give approximately 64.

But the main thing you notice is unexpected for Afghanistan security level

on the streets.

Guys, we are trying to exchange money. Just look how many people are around

us right there. There's a huge amount here people around us.

I agreed on a course of 63.7.

By the way, what's going on with pickpockets here? Do people steal here often?

They don't steal here.

If they steal, we quickly deal with it them.

So there are no pickpockets here.

You see, even if people are poor, they they will ask.

They will ask you for alms. Or they will try to sell you something. Yes?

Here, under the previous government, there were robbery and theft. But now people

afraid. They know what's wrong with the current authorities, if you steal, you're finished.

What is the punishment for pickpocketing? If you take a little out of your pocket, you'll go

to prison. To prison. But if he stole a lot or kidnapped a person, your hand

will be cut off. I mean, they really cut it off hand? Yes, and you don't steal. More for you

there will be nothing to put in someone else's pocket.

How the new authorities are cleaning up the streets, good visible in the Kabul area, which has long

for years it was known as Tuli-Sukhta.

Burnt bridge.

Heroin ghetto.

This is the place under the bridge behind me Until recently it was the most terrible place

Kabul. It was Kabul zombie land.

A huge number of people under drugs slept under this bridge, died under

him, and no one took away their bodies. It was a scary, scary place.

Several thousand people are under drugs and lived in an altered consciousness for years and

died under this bridge in sewage Kabul. Yes, a third of Afghanistan sits on

something.

Our number of addicts is constantly growing. Just look under this bridge

and you will understand everything yourself.

Here even the dogs were under drugs.

They put dogs on substances to they didn't run away.

This place was full of drug addicts, including number of children.

You won't believe it, they were sometimes 6 years old, 8 years, 10 years.

It was absolutely crazy unattainable level. And here it all comes

to the point that... that everything was littered with dead bodies, and people just walked around

dead bodies.

Many of the inhabitants of Kabul zombie land were educated people,

had a profession and even spoke foreign languages.

I graduated from college in Pakistan and received higher education in India.

Why do you live here, under the bridge?

Well, sometimes under the bridge, sometimes somewhere yet.

It's all because of the state. Country destroyed, you know? Can't find a job

nothing to be found.

Sometimes I hide my face because I'm ashamed.

You see, this is how you see me.

But now I didn’t care.

The reason for this is unemployment, poverty and war in Afghanistan.

But when the new government came, they realized that this is a huge problem for

Afghanistan. And they came here, they did several raids. They gathered everyone

drug addicts and sent them to rehab, for rehabilitation.

Well, stop!

Stop! Catch him! Catch! Where are you going? ran away? I didn't run away. Dependent people

caught harshly. Those who ran away caught on the streets.

Pack it up.

Oh, well, let's go.

Let's move our legs.

Come on, walk. They decided to run, you bastards.

They were tied up with rags and ropes. To one of the local journalists who filmed

this is without permission, I got it too.

What are you filming?

Why did you hit me?

I'm a journalist. Why beat me?

Addicted people were twisted and imprisoned bus.

Sorry, I have four daughters. Yours your daughters will be glad when you get off

needles.

They were taken to centers that were equipped in former American and British military

bases. There they took away all their personal things, including clothes.

Do you see what he was hiding there?

Well, take off your clothes, take them off, otherwise I’ll get hurt. They were washed and shaved, and then left to

so-called dry withdrawal, when the addict endures without medication.

Particularly because there are no there were no medicines, there weren’t even

clothes. Look, drug addicts were dressed in Real Madrid, Dortmund and Chelsea kits.

Here are Barca, for example, obviously the remaining from fans from NATO troops.

Leads the first of these centers Babrak, a Taliban member who himself

I was once a drug addict.

And I myself decided to quit with all this and become a normal person. I prayed

May Allah help me. And he swore that if I get out, I will help

others who are addicted like me.

I know what suffering is.

And I didn’t forget the pain from withdrawal, which twisted my body.

There is no pity in these rehabs. Bro, We have nothing here at all. We don't care.

But no one comes to us. Us here They've been holding it for 115 days already. There are fleas here

had a bite.

And just look what this place is like has turned now.

Here and there mommies buy socks for their children, there are merchants over there

they sell some food, taxis drive by. Then there are literally three years

it turned out that the scariest place in all of Afghanistan.

The worst are probably drugs hangouts in general all over the world you can just

remove. There won't be any. And here it will be This is such an ordinary city.

Just a peaceful life.

Someone is carrying, carrying their boxes. Hello, bro!

I was filming in Kensington once, Philadelphia, zombie land. I've been there

been. Yes, there was something like this this, but more terrible.

Much more terrible.

All 20 years that NATO troops were in Afghanistan, production grew here

opium. With the departure of the Americans cultivation collapsed by as much as 95%.

But many people will say that the Taliban were able to do it because they can

oppress people because the Taliban can terrorize people.

Any government has the right maintain order among people. U

every government has such a right. But the question is how they use this right.

For example, in the USA you will get fines, if you don't buckle up. Or there

conditionally, the road is in the wrong place you'll cross over. Yes, for drugs and theft

released. If the government is real wants to solve some problem, it

can do it. But people should ask yourself, but on the decision of those

problems with their money? Where are yours going? money?

They are going to conquer some other a country in which you have nothing at all

do. Or they spend... on yours the country in which you live. Yes.

I don't want it to look like some kind of, I don't know, whitewashing of the Taliban

or propaganda of their course of action, but the fact remains a fact.

Here, here.

A few years ago it would have been impossible pass.

Those journalists and bloggers who came here to film, did it under

machine gunner security. And here it was really dangerous, scary. And the most

the main thing is that a huge thing was dying here number of drug addicts

people.

And now it’s just an ordinary peaceful place life.

Here. Here.

That is the most obvious change.

in Afghanistan.

Whether these methods are good or bad, I don't know. What do you think? Write your opinion on

comments. Let's argue.

Fighting street crime and field commanders who divided the cities

and the whole country to its plots, also went tough. Until 2021

the only part of Kabul where it was more or less safe to leave

to the street, there was a so-called “green zone".

This, guys, is probably the most a visible monument to the American era

Afghanistan. Huge concrete walls which divide Kabul. There, behind this

wall... Until 2021 it was like this called green zone, green zone.

Nothing to do with green spaces it doesn't have.

Green because it's safe. There, behind this wall, all the foreigners lived, all

embassies, representative offices, military, of course, and so on.

It was a state within a state. Even inside the green zone, foreigners are more likely to

in total moved in armored cars. Each establishment had

armed guards, and outside this walls, chaos, anarchy and death began.

Imagine what's beyond this green zone, a foreigner can safely

walk around, shoot something, that's how I do it now.

It was absolutely impossible. Just It’s unthinkable that now I’m sitting quietly

here and like this I’m filming without anyone, without security, without assistants.

I can calmly, I don’t know, do everything, what I want outside the green zone and not

afraid. Now the green zone is possible consider almost all of Afghanistan. Except

four provinces east of Kabul on border with Pakistan. It's high there

rocky mountains.

impassable passes and the situation is not No one controls it to the end.

We were warned not to go there no way.

But that’s where we’ll be heading very soon let's go.

Kabul became safe even at night. Here I went out alone in the evening, I'm walking

dinner, but grenades are falling.

Pomegranate juice.

They sell books.

Of course, maybe the situation has changed with past years, but at the moment

It's very calm here. All for you smiling, everyone is interested, everyone

I wonder what kind of alien is with them arrived. Here is an ordinary street, they are preparing

shashlik.

Thank you.

I’m walking, everyone greets me and asks, How am I doing?

Night Afghanistan.

Welcome to Afghanistan. Good welcome. Thank you.

Where are you from?

Russia. Welcome. Thank you.

You know, I wouldn't say that here There are no women in the market at all.

That is, they exist, of course, they can be smaller than men. Well, exactly

less than men.

But, firstly, not everyone is closed persons.

Not all at all. Many people are simply tent, like the woman behind me,

for example.

Very many people, when they see that you you're filming...

They just cover their faces with their hands or a scarf. It's just automatic

do. But at the same time they are without a camera they continue to walk around with their eyes open

persons.

Women walk the streets. Including here yes, alone. They travel in minibuses and

just walking. However, there are men here too Rarely dressed like this, in a Western way. A

more often they are also bundled up no less than women.

This is how men are dressed, and this is how women. But who is that on the bike?

Try to guess. Do you think this is Pavlovian tradition, and this

no? But women's rights with the arrival of the tribe to power was greatly reduced. Women

It is forbidden to go to school after 12 years of age, higher education is prohibited, prohibited

books written by women are banned heels, sports prohibited, prohibited

swimming pool, walks in the park are prohibited, Women's hairdressing salons and

beauty salons, trading is prohibited, It is forbidden to laugh loudly and

talking to strangers is prohibited drive away from home more than 70

kilometers and cross... borders provinces without a man.

We are going to visit a rare for the present Afghanistan to a woman businessman.

Guys, we are in a good area of ​​Kabul.

An area where the middle class lives, say yes. Here, you see, there are more

modern houses.

They are still surrounded by high fences. I must say that asphalt

There are no roads in the yards, even in such areas, you see what it looks like

road. Given that, once again, this is not rich area, this is such a Kabul

middle class.

Do you see how beautiful the gate is? some houses. These are the houses with

beautiful balconies with large stained glass windows.

Great, dude. How are you? Okay, okay.

A huge number of people here, by the way, speaks such basic English

level. But don’t get lost when you approach them speak in English.

Guys, we're here for an interview. I, To be honest, I'm a little worried because

that this will be my first in many days communication with a woman

here in Afghanistan.

Wait, I'll get them ready, okay?

Okay, okay. You can ask if I can should I shoot? Are you ready for him

filmed?

Just put the masks on your face.

Otherwise the Taliban will see your faces.

There may be questions.

We don't need such guests, right?

We are not here to make you unnecessary problems.

We just want to talk and tell about your business, not ruin it.

Are you asking if I can film? Well I asked them to put masks on their faces, just

because they are doing business. And we we don’t want... Well, she’ll show her

face, and this face will be along with hers brand.

Yes, yes.

But the Taliban don't want women they showed their faces so publicly.

Well, that is, you can walk around with an open face, but for business it can be

problems. I can shoot, right? Now ready?

Hello.

My name is Stas.

ABOUT,

No. That's it.

You can't do that in Afghanistan.

Well, that is, she extended her hand to you, so as not to offend you. But actually

it is impossible for a woman and a man who not married, they shook hands. Oh,

sorry, sorry.

She did it out of respect. Yes, yes, yes. So that you are not left with an outstretched hand.

Yes, it was not clear what to do here.

Greetings.

Masuma and Amina are partners in production chocolate. Their small factory is right next to

them at home.

Always with them for their decency male relative. It's called

mahram - a relative who helps woman to move long distances

distances or accompanies at meetings. Mahram, look, he’s turning on the flashlights

battery

But they must have electricity, since there are lamps on the ceiling.

Yes, there is no light now. Oh, they turned off the lights, turned off. This happens. Sometimes

electricity is turned off.

Yes.

Even in Kabul, electricity is supplied to network about 6-7 hours a day. Who can

install generators. But almost everyone has These are the big car batteries,

when you need a little more light. Masuma and Amina prepares her chocolate on gas

stove. That is, this is yours chocolate factory? Factory in the kitchen?

Yes, just the kitchen.

Teapot and bowl with cocoa, sugar and milk. Ready liquid chocolate later

poured into molds.

Look guys, it's all just handmade. Every nut, seed and

raisins are placed separately.

So guys, dark chocolate is from Afghanistan. And made by a woman.

Made by a woman, yes made a woman. I open it.

Very good chocolate.

When you, as girls, decided open a business in Afghanistan that others

did people tell you?

Most often, when you start your own business, It's better not to listen to any other people.

We were scared. But if we succeed, it will be good.

And if we don’t succeed, that’s our problem.

Of course, then we heard a lot of things from others.

But we tried not to pay attention to it attention.

Many women are prohibited from working even not the government, but their own

family. Some vacancies, e.g. doctors and nurses are still open for

girls, but relatives can count it's a shame.

Just understand this situation guys. It's not even a matter of whether it allows

government for women to work or not work, but the fact is that even

relatives. they turn away from you if you are a woman and want to work here.

That is, the problem is not whether it allows this is the law.

The problem is whether it allows society. And it's much deeper

problem.

What else should we do?

Women are now not allowed anywhere here.

We are not allowed to work outside the home.

We are not allowed to study. Everything is prohibited.

And we discussed this a lot and decided that then we have to do something of our own.

And we decided to open our own business.

Because we learned this in Iran.

And now, if Allah willing, we can benefit your country.

Education in the West, in Iran, in Afghanistan is considered prestigious. And myself

Iran is a country with very liberal glances. According to the Taliban, sometimes

too liberal, contradictory traditional values. In Iran women

can study and work freely moving.

A headscarf worn incorrectly in Afghanistan on a woman's head can lead to

problems.

That is, sometimes your scarf is on not correct enough.

Yes, and that can be a problem.

What kind of problems? Can you tell me more details? Should I tell the complete truth?

But tell me that they are reprimanding you, that a man passes by and says, wear it

scarf like this. But don't be too tell me in detail, otherwise they will see it

the Taliban will ask questions.

Why are you doing propaganda? Understood. It's boiling in my soul so much,

I want to tell you everything.

I'll say right away that not all of our conversation I can show you just so that

not to create problems for Amina and Masuma. They were very frank, but my guides

They advised me to cut out some of the answers. What happens to women who violate

rules can be found on the Internet.

Here's a girl getting 10 lashes for listening to music. By the way,

a man can get this too punishment. The Taliban introduced a special

morality police Its members, they are called muhtasibins, make sure that

women were properly dressed in public and behaved according to the restrictions.

You lived for some time in Iran.

And I lived in America. But here in Afghanistan, the people are different.

Both men and women. If you give at least 1% freedom, then they begin to do terrible things.

Just complete shit. Wild things.

I swear to Allah, I saw it.

For example, at the market when driving cars one movement and the car

crashes into a car. Why?

This is the nature of Afghanistan.

There are many different people living in Afghanistan peoples, with different cultures and different

past.

Pashtun tribes, they are extremely, extremely...

Conservatively. Conservatively. Yes. Just extremely conservative. This is their life.

You might even think, wow, this too much. You won't be able to understand it.

This is their culture.

By the way, I am a Pashtun. Yes. From the point of view The West is just extreme conservatism.

Cruelty and all that.

But there are others in Afghanistan.

Nationalities. Yes, peoples who more relaxed. Yes. They don't

liberal, but they seem to be more... Yes, they are more likely to, for example, open their faces or

women are allowed more. They are more free. Here is an example about the Hazaras. Here

this area is mostly populated Hazaras.

This lady, she's Hazara. They are lighter allow their daughters or wives

work. And the Pashtuns or Tajiks or Uzbeks will say, “No, I don’t want mine

my wife worked."

Taliban supporters often say that women are prohibited from working out of respect

to them in order to protect and preserve them. But one detail.

Women also beg on the streets. I I have never seen a male beggar in

Afghanistan. It's not at all like protection.

But why does this severity manifest itself? only to women?

Why do restrictions apply to women? mostly?

She means that this severity, which the Taliban are showing must be

everyone. To both men and women. 50% on men, 50% for women. But now

The Taliban are putting pressure only on women. Why don't they share it equally?

Yes, now it turns out that even if men are to blame, they are punished for this

woman. Fine.

The Americans had a plan to change this.

They tried to do it.

And what did this lead to?

People were robbed and killed.

There was crime and lawlessness.

This may seem paradoxical, but during the Americans Amina and Masuma were

forced to flee the country because it was dangerous for her. And during the time of the Taliban

on the contrary, they returned.

We were refugees in Iran. You yourself you know, in that country refugees are not worth a penny

put. They didn’t let us study there either. We could only work. And you have no rights

we weren't there. You see the Afghans workers in other countries of the world. They

work for half, or even 5% of what the locals get. But at the same time

do the most difficult work.

When we came to our country, yeah Allah bless that moment.

We were refugees while we stayed here Americans. I said bless

God of the Taliban.

How they took care of the refugees. Look, not a day has passed, they gave us

food, there was water, everything was there. There was help There were doctors, no one had any problems.

But in Iran we had nothing.

Security is excellent now. Now we we travel to any province without any

problems. Previously, when we were traveling to side of the Maidan, the neighboring region, Nam

it was really scary. Now from security is all good.

But what is the only problem now? Firstly, there are no schools for girls. And one more thing

no work.

We cannot travel unaccompanied to another province. Yes, we need Mahram,

male relative to go somewhere far away, to other provinces, if

We have some business there. For example, at our work, when we transport chocolate

and all that, you should definitely join us to be a man because that's how we are

calmer. We feel that if we do this, this work alone, who knows

what could happen. It's scary. We are not they will let you in. We will simply be turned back.

They won't give you permission to pass.

Placed throughout Afghanistan a huge number of roadblocks. So much

I haven't seen it anywhere.

The Taliban are looking at them, who is riding in each car, they can stop and check

cargo and documents. One of the tasks is also to make sure that the woman does not

traveling alone or with a stranger. I'll show you you work roadblocks in our next

issue about this country, where Yura and I Let's go around Afghanistan on a motorcycle.

We very often do not see the faces of Afghans women. Tell me they use it often

cosmetics?

At home? Yes, at home. Or on the street?

Well, okay, at home and on the street. We're just we don't know. Actually, not very often,

but sometimes yes. I use it most often. Yes, you just understand when the face is visible,

then I sometimes see what they use a lot of good cosmetics. And they do makeup

very good.

And now I’m wondering where you study, how to do makeup? You are reading fashion

magazines? Maybe you can get them somewhere?

No, now it's YouTube.

YouTube. Yes, yes.

Nowadays everyone studies on YouTube.

On YouTube.

Yes, because schools are prohibited. Yes, yes.

You can't work, and women have nothing to do to do.

Yes. And they open the Internet, and something study on the Internet.

In general, social networks have replaced Afghan women have a way out of the house. Although

most western sites in the country banned, people find workarounds

and actively use them. There's even a such women's vlogs. Hello. I wish

Have a nice day and all the best.

Where Afghan women show how they live, what what they eat and what they talk about.

The girls here love to study something in Internet.

But in general, often all day long it’s just scroll Instagram, TikTok and others

social networks.

Yes,

that is, on social networks there are women here they sit a lot.

Yes, most of them. Yes, yes, yes. Yes, Nowadays many girls have become bloggers.

Why? Because there is no other job. Yes, yes, yes. This is the way to

earn money.

A humanitarian crisis is engulfing the country.

Especially after the Taliban came to power.

Some families have so little money that they are forced to sell their daughters to

wives. What you are about to see is will break your heart. If you're not ready,

fast forward three minutes, but I I can’t help but show it.

The girl is taken out of the house, and she resists in the last hope.

She's nine, and her parents gave her away to marry an elderly Afghan man. My dad sold me

because we don't have bread and rice.

I have no job, no money, no food.

There are many such stories from this country, and they began long before the Taliban.

My name is Samia.

I was in seventh grade. But for 10 days before the end of the school year I was released

married This video is from seven years ago when under the Americans girls were allowed

go to school, but even then they were sold getting married right out of a school desk. Mine

Mom borrowed money and couldn’t pay it back. And then these people took me instead

money.

Small children are forced to beg and collect trash. But if this money is not

enough, then the parents make a decision, which to me, as the father of two girls, even

It's hard to put into words.

In Islam, women are allowed to go out married since puberty. That is, she

must reach the age of puberty and, in addition, give your consent.

She wants to marry this man or not, whoever he is.

But nine-year-old girls are definitely not extradited.

There are a lot of stories about how women forced to get married in a very, very

early childhood. I just recently I read that even from the age of nine girls

issue. Is this true or not?

This is true.

Is it true.

Right at nine years old?

Nine years is too much, I think. small.

But at 14-15 it’s fine.

Yes. This has become a lot now.

The government now says so can't be done.

But in some parts of Afghanistan, especially in remote areas, this happens.

And these girls and girls can't do anything say.

In some parts it is there.

But in my environment or in my family no.

Now, even when you call someone, then instead of a dial tone you hear...

Tell me what you hear instead of a beep on the phone now.

Yes, yes, yes, an important thing.

They say no family can give your daughter in marriage by force.

This is the law now.

Here, let me show you. I do call, do you see? Decree 17 of His Holiness

Emir of the Faithful. Upon marriage the girl's consent is mandatory

condition. Nobody can give her away married by force.

If you translate this, then the new decree of the Emir Afghanistan. It's like the president. Emir. He

says children should not be married off and you cannot marry without consent.

If these conditions are not met, the girl can come to any state

institution. Complain. Yes, complain.

Marriage dissolved. What number is this? which one are you calling? Absolutely anyone.

And when you call, you just hear this is an announcement that the girl is not allowed

get married before... Before puberty. Yes, and she must agree.

This is a message from the operator.

I called my cousin over there but if I dial any number it will be the same

most. Everyone in the country hears it.

When I call, my wife calls.

Everyone who makes the call hears what if you were forced to get married if you

sold as a wife or something, go to To the Taliban, please complain about you too

will be taken care of.

By law you cannot force no one but the government has

complete control over what happens in houses. This is impossible.

Stuff happens. Maybe now some young girl in the village

Afghanistan is forced to marry her parents. Because that's the tradition here,

of which there are hundreds, what hundreds, thousands and thousands of years.

Forced marriages were ours tradition. Here I am following Pashtun

code of honor. Because I am Pashtun. If my brother dies and leaves his wife, I will

obliged by our tradition to take it widow.

Widow. This is done forcibly. But For us it is also a matter of honor. This is for

We have a duty to our brother. My grandfather, his brother died and he married

his brother's widows.

This is tradition. Yes, it's forced, but This is how you protect your family. So often in

these villages... Yes, it's coercion, but you find it difficult to understand their culture. They have

she is like that.

Islam is different. We must distinguish culture and religion. That's why

the government says don't do this stop this practice. This

is contrary to Islam.

But how can you control everything?

Afghanistan is 10% of urban life. Yes. And 90% of rural life.

How will you control people in villages, when someone is far away in the outback

forces his daughter into marriage?

We're going to just such a remote place. Afghanistan.

East of Kabul the mountainous ridge that goes all the way to

Pakistan. These are sheer and bad passable rocks for centuries, even since

times of Alexander the Great, who conquered these lands are

a natural fortress in which Afghans were hiding. They were hiding there somewhere

and the most famous terrorists of the 21st century.

But to go there, we need to change clothes.

Friends, first fitting of outfits from Couture. From Talib, more precisely.

Well, first of all, what do you need to understand about these pants? They

dimensionless. They are simply dimensionless. That is, here is such a belt.

who can make them, just like that any size, here they are

can be broad so that they can be easily understood what kind of pants are these and everyone has them like that

you can easily give your pants to a friend no matter how much this friend

big or small second shirt She is lower knee That is, they say that

the women in Afghanistan are all wrapped up. Men are wrapped up, in principle, the same way,

just like women in a sense. Because that then you put a scarf on your head.

And this is something like the Taliban image. Still not enough

caps. They told me not to stand out but it seems to me that we will be like three white people

crow.

And, look, there are some trouser legs. One is longer.

Look.

Different lengths, really.

Guys, we are going to one of the most closed places in Afghanistan.

They tried for a long time to get permission, to get there. It seems like we need it

they did, but...

You can't be completely sure will they let us through at all checkpoints?

Because we are going to the legendary ominous

Toraboroo on the border with Pakistan.

We are packed into the car to capacity. We carry people, not counting machine guns.

How many people can fit into the maximum? this car?

25. 25.

This is a man-sized rifle.

Yes, yes, yes.

Just like another passenger.

This guy will tell you a lot stories. OK. His name is Khabib. He's a lot

fought.

Stas, where is Tor-Bor?

Torabora is east of Kabul, on border with Pakistan, in the mountains. I mean,

there to the side. To Jalalabad? Yes, in Jalalabad, yes.

Where they said you shouldn't go anyway.

Yes, that's where we're going. To places like this That's why we're going, Yuri.

Aystan.

Almost all of this road was built by the Russians. We will pass through tunnels, and so will they.

built by the Russians.

During Soviet times. During Soviet times.

Here we are driving along the most dangerous road in throughout Afghanistan, and maybe throughout

world. But the coolest thing is that even here you will always meet

food stalls.

Hey, hello, friend, can I drive up? car? Tell him what you want and he will

it brings you. It's like a car McDonald's.

Afghan version of the restaurant for motorists, right? Yes, yes.

In the same places, guys remove smoke from you will be damaged and cursed.

The smoke is hard.

But now there will be no evil eye, guys.

I even feel like I’ve already been cleansed a little bit.

Despite the harsh Muslim orders, belief in pagan witchcraft in

people are not going anywhere.

The chocolates turned out to be Russian. Look, a cupcake with frosted filling.

with chocolate flavor.

Guys, we're going to do something. absolutely, it seems to me

illegal, but necessary, because I really want to show you

How beautiful it is here.

And this cannot be done without a drone.

I won't even tell you how I brought this drone to Afghanistan. Just don't

I will.

But I brought it precisely for such species.

Now you will see it. Guys, this is just beauty.

This is incredible. And this is exactly what you need to see from above.

Afghanistan is one of the most beautiful and yet completely unexplored by tourists

countries of the world.

Where snowy mountains meet hot sand, and the rocks, like

waterfalls flow into green meadows.

Where ancient relics are hidden among the mountains, and nature changes every two hours

roads. Many imagine Afghanistan is like one big hot one

desert, but it's not like that.

It's colder in Kabul in winter than in Sochi or Barcelona. And the Hindu Kush mountains could well

would become a ski resort. But endless wars have turned this

a picturesque region into one of the most dangerous territories on the planet.

Note that in these wars the Afghans never were not conquerors, but always

they knew what they were fighting for. That's all for this.

Monuments of past wars stand roadsides.

Here is an artifact from Soviet times, which Afghanistan has a lot of tanks left.

Once upon a time he apparently controlled it gorge.

Strategic direction for Jalalabad.

Well, now it’s just a tourist exhibit near which Afghans

taking pictures.

Another artifact left behind foreigners trying to conquer

Afghanistan. This time it's the Americans. Humvee, look at it

hung the Taliban flag on top and specially placed on the big one

column so that it can be seen from afar.

But it is obvious that the Afghans are very boastful how much

large, powerful, great countries.

came to try to conquer this land, and everyone ended up losing.

Damaged foreign equipment can be meet in the mountains and fields. Afghans

sometimes they paint it cheerfully, and next to it they sow the fields as if nothing had happened.

Of course, guys, the farmer who grows potatoes against the backdrop of destroyed tanks, this is

in my opinion, the most powerful allegory peace.

What... Well, at least potatoes will definitely win someday.

We entered Jalalabad. This is the largest a city in eastern Afghanistan, already...

Almost on the very border with Pakistan.

Well, so far it’s very picturesque and beautiful.

Okay, now let's get things out of trunk, probably.

The main thing is that nothing falls out there. Yes, carefully.

Oh yes, hold your Kalash so it doesn’t fall, and your handbag.

I don't think I'll ever get around to it I'll get used to it, guys. When you open

trunk, well, be careful so that the Kalash doesn’t fell out.

When I arrived at the restaurant to eat. But just look at this restaurant.

Look how green it is. Well there you go Agree, not so green restaurants

you expect to see in Afghanistan. you just look at this riot of greenery

in Afghanistan.

This is a fish restaurant. Traditional Afghani dish is now washed down by locals

American soda, which for the first time entered the country along with NATO troops.

They immediately decided to treat me.

Well, the fish is great. I took it, thanks bro.

Take more, take more.

In Afghanistan everyone is trying to us invite you over and treat and feed you.

Everyone we are here

we meet, then they will know where we are from.

They say join us, let's let's sit together, let's eat together,

share food with us.

Simply incredibly hospitable.

We also order fish that is sold raw right next to it and then cooked on

in your eyes.

This guy, in general, clearly wants to film with me.

He accompanies you all the way. Yes, and I took it I have a camera now.

If anything, guys, he's filming me.

Here in Afghanistan I am constantly I'm amazed at how many different faces you have

you meet around the country.

Someone is really bright, bright, blue-eyed

Afghanistan is also a crossroads civilizations, and an isolated region where

mountain peoples can live without contact with each other.

Conservatism that prohibits intertribal marriages, and conflicts leading to

mixing of blood. As a result incredible combinations, for example, black

hair and blue eyes, faces that directly attract the camera. The most

famous photograph of an Afghan woman in history this one. Girl... with green eyes from

refugee camps in Pakistan. Afghan Monna Lisa. Her photo was published in

National Geographic magazine in 1984.

And in 2002, for the anniversary of the magazine, photographer, who took the photo, Steve McCurry, decided

find the girl.

We checked the color of the cornea. He's almost matches what we are looking for.

National Geographic made a whole series about searching for a girl, having traveled around Afghanistan and

Pakistan, taking thousands of photos of similar faces and after spending a long time

investigation until finally found her.

Do you recognize? Do you recognize? I asked you her do you recognize?

And he replied, this is my mother.

She continued to live in Pakistan, with her family and children appeared.

She says I remember you.

Yes, so many years have passed. It was like this It's unusual to see her again. And again

see her eyes.

New photos were taken and the identity girls became famous. Her name is Sharbat

Gula. It looked like the happiest journalistic luck.

Sharbat Gula will be extradited from Pakistan for violating immigration rules

legislation.

But as soon as this story became public, like the famous green-eyed girl,

who became a mother was expelled from Pakistan. She lived there for 35 years without documents.

In Afghanistan she was greeted with honors, but soon no one needed her.

The photograph that made her famous ruined her life. What's in the West

may seem like success in Afghanistan can lead to tragedies. And this...

We must remember.

After a good meal it's common here lie down and sleep.

Husband and wife.

Not until it’s yours on that hole.

Just look at all these clay ones the houses we pass. People

just relaxing near their houses along.

A ditch with water flows through the houses, and there is a field wheat. In fact 70% of Afghanistan

this is not the Taliban, not some religious organizations are just peasants. And

these are the villages, guys, built simply from beaten clay.

Each house is usually surrounded by a very high with a fence as high as this

this one, you see, is for no one...

No one around saw that happens inside.

“My home, my fortress” is very about Afghanistan, very much about Afghan houses.

In the fields, as far as I could see, only men work. To a woman

indecent. But boys and girls are free walk and play together.

We arrived at the village at the very foot of Creativity.

And here our guide must contact with my friends who

take us further.

Without this, the road is good for us, and in general for any person is closed.

Tell me, are we leaving here?

Will we even leave alive?

Now I'm not sure anymore.

A group of Taliban are driving us through checkpoints in the mountains at the foot of the Tora Bora complex.

These were small caves, but in the 80s years of the 20th century Tora Bora came to

new level.

The USSR sent troops to Afghanistan. Local Mujahideen who fought the Soviets

troops, began to receive military assistance from the USA. Machine guns, cartridges, rocket

systems to shoot down helicopters. And the Torah Bora became their military camp.

Primeval caves with US money expanded to a real underground

bunkers with ammunition depots, tunnels, firing positions.

There are snowy mountains, a golden valley below wheat,

clay houses. It's all very beautiful. A mountain stream flows in a valley. On the other hand

on the other hand, you're just scared to drive along this mountain serpentine, which sometimes

just two meters and a cliff.

And on the third side, somewhere inside, you It's downright creepy that...

We are as far away from civilization as possible.

We are on the border with Pakistan, where There really is no longer any power.

Moreover, there is no power during millennia.

And anything can happen here. And if you disappear, then it’s just about you

will be forgotten. And if you want to get lost...

then even the best intelligence services in the world with all with their hi-tech

the strays of the decades will look for you and

It’s not a fact that they will find it.

Dude, you have such a big gun.

An incredibly large gun.

How did that tank get here?

We hit him here.

There's more there.

Here he stayed.

These tanks stormed Toro Bora, and they hit, right?

Ironically, Americans who, in fact, they built Toro Bora, then

stormed their own fortifications in 2001 year, looking for Bin Laden here.

This whole valley was bombed.

They bombed hard. Name any weapon. And it was used here. But to no avail. Ben

Laden escaped from Torabora only if admit that he was there.

But he was there.

Since we don't know for sure, there was whether he is there and whether he is there now, it’s difficult for me

answer this question.

Bin Laden himself specifically showed that he's here, as if teasing his enemies and showing off

inaccessibility of Tora Bora. Here is a photo from him from these places. One of them shows

and the house where he lived. That's where we're going. You the only dude, just the only one

dude who was let in here like that.

Stas, where have you taken me?

I don’t know where I took us. This revenge for Morsi, apparently.

Did you like Morsi's captivity? Now a prisoner there will be Taliban, my friend.

Look.

And this is only a small part of the people, because that they concentrated in everything

territories.

Then we walk straight to the house.

Where did Osama Bin Laden live?

The Taliban are coming hand in hand. These fighters in general often look paradoxical. After

the capture of Kabul, for example, they rode on toy cars and played around in

gym.

This is how the Taliban take photographs, guys. goats.

Very nice, I'd say.

Only smiling people around I have never seen a weapon.

That is, look, I often met in life is full of smiling people.

Was. I have often met many in the world armed people. It happened too. But to

they were the same people, it's just here.

The way they behave is absolutely contradicts the expectation that you

you have when you go to a meeting with Taliban. That is, you expect to see

some of these stern bearded men who they will look at you like falcons,

gimmicky glances.

And here are just funny guys laughing, having fun, very friendly to you

treat you and treat you.

Older Taliban members invite you drink tea with them, give them some food

you. Absolutely, absolutely, as if these are such cuties, but at the same time with

Kalash, with such sniper rifles and so on.

It looks like it's starting to rain.

There goes the black carcass.

This is the house where Bin Laden lived.

This is Osama's house.

Not his home, but where he was sheltered.

And here there was another one, but in it a bomb hit directly. This wasteland remains

from a bomb.

You live here, right?

Yes, this is my home.

And you... Is this your house?

But people say that Osama ben lived there Laden.

Yes.

Yes? That is, Osama bin Laden lived in your at home?

Yes, he lived in my house. Was nearby small mosque. It was bombed. On

in fact, behind that mosque it begins one of the cave passages along which

it was possible to hide in the mountains.

And the bombs were aimed at him. And then further there was another cave. Her too

bombed.

A photo of Bin Laden outside the house was taken right next to this house.

Do you remember the first day when you met Osama Bin Laden? How is it

was it? We can't ask questions at that time. was allowed. Such are the customs here. We

they called him Sheikh Sahib. But it was impossible just ask someone. Who's there

Sheikh Sahib? Or ask where they live here Arabs? He was with other Arabs.

But my friends let me down here and they said it themselves.

Meet Sheikh Sahib. We are here then lived with my father for a while.

I was about 16 then or maybe 15.

But the people in this area, you understand, No one even had telephones. All

it appeared in these places very recently.

That is, no one really knew completely what is Osama Ben Laten famous for?

I think he looks like Osama.

This is where Ayman Azzavahiri sat. His tent was right here, you know?

And below there was a field.

And towards evening everyone was playing football.

According to numerous reports, Osama Bin Laden was a passionate fan

football, namely the English team Arsenal, which I loved when I lived in

London in the 90s. In 2001 Arsenal management even officially

announced that it was banning him from visiting your matches.

And on the other side, towards those trees, this is the field where they practiced

shooting. They shot, carried out their military training and after that went to

mosque. And this garden and this whole territory was completely hidden in large

trees. And during the day they sat in the shadow of these trees.

We barely prayed, but all these big trees Americans destroyed big, big

bombs that were dropped here.

Did you realize then that Osama Bin Laden was the number one terrorist

looking for the CIA, FBI and all these secret peace services?

No no.

I couldn't think of this.

That is, you did not suspect that he accused of committing a huge

terrorist attack?

No, he already told you, but I tell you I'll explain. You can try to find it

video on the Internet. There was a documentary a film in which after September 11

journalists came to Afghanistan and interviewed people.

They asked what you know about 11 September?

No one, almost no one in Afghanistan knew nothing.

They didn't understand what it was all about. Neither who did not have access to news or

social networks. There was nothing like that then.

Yes, even now.

Look how people live here. Even yours phone and my phone. Yes, he doesn't catch.

There's no signal here.

Here people still live in the past. In the past. But then, in 2001, the Americans came.

They came and started bombing your land. How did you feel at that moment?

Well, how did I feel?

The Arabs who were here, I swear By Allah, do not be afraid. They were ready

die. But a weapon for resistance They did not have such a serious enemy. A

we're just used to the fact that someone comes and tries to conquer us. A

we need to resist.

It was not much different from what he and so I already heard from the story of my father,

and his father's father, and so on.

People come to conquer us, and we we fight.

It's just par for the course. But he doesn't have it was just a thought, well, you’re simple,

an ordinary person and you live here.

You could just go and pass Americans and authorities where Ben is

Laden. And so save from bombing your home and this whole area in general. I can

translate. Bad question?

Yes, I can translate it, but I wouldn't wanted.

Fine. I don't want him felt. Offended by this.

It was very hard for me to offend someone here dangerous. I think you understand

reason. But I wanted to understand why this a simple peasant who has no

nothing to do with the Taliban or jihad, nor to global politics and so on

further, I decided to risk my life for the sake of a detachment of fighters led by

foreign billionaire who came here once to fight with

The Soviet Union remained to live.

My question is why is he really decided to defend Osama? Why should he

was to protect him?

In Afghanistan it is not customary to a guest came to you, and you took him and gave him away

foreigners or infidels. Even if all Afghanistan will be destroyed even if

each of us will be killed, Afghans they will never do that.

Guys, even the weather is ominous, you know, there was some thunder, it started raining, there was lightning.

A place that, of course, smells of something so ominous, some kind of mystery than

something scary.

Just imagine, in this Osama Bin Laden lived in the very house. K

unfortunately, the owner of the house does not allow us to enter inside because his wife is there and he doesn't

wants us to film where my wife is.

He is ready, or rather, to let us in, but just without a camera.

Why did you decide to become a Taliban?

This was the time of the American occupation. I could not come to terms with the fact that our country

invaded by foreigners.

Can you tell me what yours was like? life when you were fighting a guerrilla war

with the Americans? How exactly did you live? being Taliban?

In fact, it was very funny and carefree life, glory to Allah. Yes, us

blocked from all sides, behind us were chasing.

And my house was destroyed by bombing. But we are still happy.

Can you explain to me why times the Afghan government

could just give Bin Laden away Americans? After all, the Americans said

hand over Bin Laden and we won't invade. Why couldn't this be

do? Very good question.

There are many videos of people around Mules of Amar and the world of Afghanistan

time they told him.

“Hey, fifty countries are coming at us. All NATO. Let's just give one away

people and we will not sacrifice our power and the whole country. For one thing

person." And he said, “I don't care. I will never betray my Islamic

friend. This is against my religion and contrary to my Pashtun code.

I mean, there’s no way I can do it.” What is the Pashtun Code? Explain.

The Pashtun code is a code of honor. U Pashtuns have an honor code.

Mulaamar was a Pashtun. I am also a Pashtun. U We have our own code of honor. And there's a lot

rules And one of the rules is that if someone even your enemy enters your house, you

must respect him. And you...

must protect him, treat him like a friend or brother.

Afghanistan is our home. And Osama was guest in our house. Can't sell

your guests. It was unthinkable for him. And he said if they want

invade, let them invade.

I got the impression that The caves are basically here.

But they still carry strategic some... Well, yes, we never got into the caves

they let me in. They said they still had an hour to go walking, and to the mountains, and like we’re not going there

we'll get there. Well, it’s simple, yes, it’s clear that you yourself caves, real Taliban caves, entrance

really closed because it's military object.

It's a shame, but...

No, well, just imagine anyway, here you go here, right here, right here, along this

Osama Bin Laden walked along the road, hiding from persecution

when everyone was looking for him, literally everything.

And his people are here, what’s most interesting is at the same time covered, knowing that they would be

bomb for it. That is, no one went and didn't report. Well, here's someone just alone

I could go and, relatively speaking, pass.

But he didn’t give in.

Just imagine, here you are farms, simple peasants live,

grow their own food there.

Well, it would seem to them, well, that's what, to them, so that they don't get bombed, just go and surrender

person, yes, and the question is closed.

No, they didn't pass.

This is really interesting.

I don't know, that's what you would do for example in this situation?

In your village, relatively speaking, lives terrorist number one, and because of this the whole

the village is being bombed.

And you can either give it up or give it up continue to hide.

So what would you do?

Write in the comments if it’s interesting.

I left Torabora with a strange feeling.

Beautiful and at the same time sinister a place that still holds many

riddles And what hides in its caves now?

The weather was deteriorating, and for the night we decided stop with our guide,

Taliban officer Habib. His story the life I learned the next morning was amazing

me. Just like the life of an ordinary Afghan woman the village in which we immersed.

But more about this in the next episode of our travel in Afghanistan.

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