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Alexis and Anthony so thank you so much for coming out today

I really appreciate it um

my name is Sophia Lock I specialize in family therapy and um

I'm really excited to have you here today

um I'd love to hear more about why you've come to see me

well thank you

Doctor Lock thank you for having Anthony and I here today

we're excited to be here right Anthony

no yeah

alright let me just cut the chase and get into why we're here

sure so I started

I realized I was losing my panties and bras

I thought I was losing them

leaving them at the gym or whatever okay

but that wasn't the case

I actually found a pair in his closet on the floor

and then a week later I found another pair

and so I took them back and they were just sticky and crusty and just

and then like I looked in the back of his closet

and I found a bag of my bras and panties okay

I can see why that would be really shocking for you

but I want to let both of you know that

that this is a place of no judgment

it's a safe space for both of you

and I want to help you grow closer through all of your issues okay

so I know it's a big step coming here

especially for you too Anthony

um

why don't you tell me about um

your side of of what happened with this

I mean I don't know I just

I don't know I just

I feel like it brings me closer a little bit

like I feel a little closer

sure sure

um are you not feeling like in your kind of day to day life

you have a lot of connection here with your stepmom

I mean

yeah sometimes and stuff

but I feel like you know

I don't know

we really have to talk about this

I don't

we're in a safe place sweetie

exactly with the doctor

she's professional and I've

I've heard it all this is

this is actually a very common issue that people come to me in therapy

about you know um

there is a draw especially at your age

Anthony toward um

you know maybe more private items of clothing and

and if you're getting these urges

and these hormones raging through your body

sometimes they're they're misplaced onto our

our family members right

so it is it is kind of a normal

a normal thing that I hear

so um

I wanna validate you in that way to let you know that it's

it's not that crazy you know it's

it's not that that wild

so we're gonna work through it together

and I think from what I'm hearing

and correct me if I'm wrong

it sounds like you have a

a wonderful bond with her and you'd like that to be stronger

we do yeah

here we go look

we're getting somewhere now we now I got a smile from Anthony

so I know I know we're making some progress here

it's it's going to be a long road um

but I want you to know that

that we'll get to a place where either

you're not doing this kind of behavior

or we're finding a more healthy outlet for this

these urges basically right

and so sometimes this transference um

maybe isn't done in a healthy way this way

but I have some ideas about how we can do

maybe some unconventional methods to

to fix the problem basically

so I I wanna know if you're

if you're open if you're open to that

what do you have in mind um

well haha um

I we're

we're open to it it's fine great

yes great I love that I

trust her we need to trust her

typically what you'll

what you'll see from most therapists is just that you kind of talk

talk talk through it right

maybe some cognitive behavioral therapy

some recognizing our emotions

stuff like that but I think that's a little boring

just if you want my personal opinion on it

and I want a faster track to bringing your family together okay

so we're gonna do um

what's called uh

exposure therapy right

and so we're gonna take something that's maybe a little scary

maybe a little uncomfortable

and we're gonna go a little farther with it

kind of a shocking level of far with it so that if this happens again

it won't seem like that big of a deal

okay

okay with this yeah

are you sure yeah

and you said you trust her and stuff

yes so yes

alright okay doctor

well I appreciate your trust in me

thank you very much I mean

I do have I have lots of references

if you ever need to talk to somebody

about how it's worked with their family um

I can assure you

it's a little bit nerve wracking to go through it first

but it really does work and it brings you closer together

and then at some point you don't even need therapy right

I'm trying to get you to a point where you don't even need me anymore

you just have each other right

to work through that's what we want

that's what we want good

I love that okay

well um

so to get started um

we're gonna do things that so are

are a little more shocking

so what what we have at home is you are finding her uh intimate

her intimate apparel right

um and there

is there a certain specific kind of thing that you prefer like a

like a lacyer item or a certain color

um

I mean

like yeah

everything's fine I mean

you know as long as it's hers

you know sure

and when you find these items

are you imagining her in the items when you're aroused

sometimes yeah okay

and how does that make you feel

um I'm not too sure how I feel about that

I'm just gonna tell you the truth understandable sir

do I have to answer that you don't have to now

you don't have to now um

I think it was brave of you to even admit this and so

you know sometimes when we're at home and we have these urges

there are these items or you know

maybe you see your your mom getting dressed or in the shower

something like that and it's totally normal to have those urges and

and that's okay to hear that really

you know it really is it's

it's normal and natural um

so for this kind of exposure therapy

I if you're imagining her in the items already

we're gonna go a little step further

and what we're gonna do is

we're gonna have her show you herself in those items

in person in real time

um oh

are you sure that this is what we should be doing

I know it's unconventional

I can promise you it works

I have reviews online that speak about this exposure therapy

and it's literally exposure therapy alright

we are actually exposing I'm open with that okay wonderful

yeah yeah

and it's okay if you feel aroused

this is part of it that it is a little extreme

but um

but we're gonna get to the point where you're gonna see her

her bras and underwear and

and either think nothing or get very aroused

but it's OK OK

so I just take my blouse off uh

yes perfect

yes and I want to make sure you're looking Anthony OK

is that one of the items you have looked at in the past

yeah it is okay

um

wonderful and so how are you feeling then when you're

when you're looking at her in this item of clothing that you have

previously seen

I'm excited you're excited okay

I mean I know that probably makes you a little uncomfortable Alexis

but um isn't it isn't it nice

let's kind of reframe it that your son here um is excited to see you

it's a little refreshing as long as we're making progress right

all I worry about right he's not ignoring you playing video games

he's actually focused on you

yes you know

he sees you um

so I I think that's nice

and you know I mean I

I know this is a lot but it's supposed to feel a little uncomfortable

that's kind of part of it

so we're okay and we can leave everything in this room

you know we can leave all this discomfort in this room when we leave

so um

let's just keep going um

and then so if I could have you then stand up

just take the dress off yes

stand up and then we're gonna expose the rest of it yeah okay

so you're gonna unzip it and then if you'll stop right there

I'm gonna have Anthony actually help you take off the rest of it

so he can get close to you and you can experience this together okay

just listen to the doctor she knows what she's doing there we go

see now we're working together as a team

instead of him hiding something from you

great wonderful

I can see why he takes your items

that's beautiful and so great with your skin color so lovely

alright wonderful

now just turn around for me

perfect I want him to see the entire the entire item okay

wonderful and then in this item Anthony

will you tell me where you um like released your fluids

oh in that part okay

wow alright and how does that make you feel

um

I'm okay with it I'm okay with it okay

yes alright wonderful

so we're taking away the shame of of your behavior

so I think that's fantastic

wonderful um

I can have you sit down now I want you to sit very close to each other

perfect wonderful and I want um

hmm I just feel like we could do a little more exposure usually I

I put this out into a few therapy sessions

but you both are doing so well and I'm I'm so impressed that um

yeah so

what I'm gonna do next is I am actually going to join in the exposure

therapy part of it so that you

can see it's totally normal and natural to have um

sexy lingerie that you're wearing out

and just to see if you maybe feel a different way

when it's someone who is not um

a family member of yours okay

so I'm just gonna show you really quickly here

and this is very normal for me

it's just all of my sessions I usually do this so um

yeah it's a very specific type of therapy we studied in college haha

very effective um

so this is the lingerie that I am wearing right

beautiful thank you

yeah yeah

and so OK

and this one you like as well

OK fantastic great

I'm so glad um wonderful

so we are gonna move forward with this exposure

but first I'd like to kind of check in with you Anthony

about your arousal levels

do you feel like it's more aroused now that I have also done it

something yeah

it is okay okay

so then it's not it's not just you

it's not just you know specifically focused on family

which is a relief I think to all of us

it's just you know how boys are so it's nothing that's abnormal

wonderful

great um

okay so now that we know that that's your level of arousal

um

what we're gonna do is we're actually gonna bring it up another notch

so I'm gonna join you on this couch

I know it's a little tight

but just shift over please

thank you

so

you'll probably notice that your heart rate has gone up a little bit

haha and everything's a little bit more intense

so this does up the exposure

is everybody kind of getting a little bit closer

and so we're gonna see how your levels of arousal are

when it is your mom here and then when it is a non family member

and we're just gonna up that exposure as we go along okay okay

you guys ready yeah

yeah okay wonderful so if I could have you expose your breast please

and have you have you seen those before

maybe not necessarily with her knowing right

OK OK but now she does know and she is OK with it right

perfect um and then I'm gonna do mine as well

it's alright you can look

there

so now you can see both of ours and we're telling you that it's okay

yeah are you alright with this

yeah OK good yeah you're doing a great job here too um

and so the next step is to bring in touch

so we already have our sense of sight involved

but you've done that before

you've done that in your home

where you've seen her shower or change without her knowing

but you've seen things I assume you probably haven't touched but okay

no I could tell

I could tell by the discomfort at the beginning of

of the session that that probably hadn't been

and you're sure this is okay

this is you do this all the time with your other clients

yes yes

of course of course

I would never bring you through something that wasn't I mean

clinically studied and shown to work absolutely um

so we are gonna move to the touch stage

and I'm gonna have you place a hand on one of her brothers

yep that's perfect

see he wants to get closer to you he's already squeezing hahaha

so I am assuming there is probably a higher level of arousal

wonderful and I I love that I have that confirmation from you

but I would also actually like to see and

and confirm with my sight that there is a higher level of arousal

so if I could have you um unbutton here and expose yourself as well

okay mm hmm yep

standard practice alright

yep alright let's see

yeah there's there's definitely somewhere else out there

yes there is there is OK

so we're all being honest with each other and that is that's wonderful

yep and you just go right to touching it

which you know is pretty standard with this with this age range

you know of just an automatic wanting to touch right

and since you do have that urge to touch

I'm gonna have you actually touch my breast here with your other hand

okay perfect wonderful okay

I I don't know about this to tell you that the truth

I I just I'm not sure if I feel comfortable

oh wonderful

I hear you and I absolutely respect that

that's your position and it is your body

of course you can make that decision

um I just

I would like to say that

I'm really impressed with the progress that we're making here

and I think you should just give it one more shot

I mean do I have to tell my husband about this

I don't know if I want your father knowing about this

I mean I won't say anything

and that's okay it

it's okay this

as I said before is a really safe space

um this is a place where you can explore any of your feelings

where you can bond with your son here and um

it's absolutely private and confidential

my notes will not go out to anyone

and I mean there's no recording or anything

alright perfect then

so I guess nobody else knows about this

no and I give you permission to enjoy to whatever level

feels comfortable to you too

and we can see that he's enjoying it

so I want to give you that permission as well okay

alright let's go forward then okay wonderful great

thank you for trusting me

both of you I really appreciate that

well I can see that you both are now pretty aroused

is that correct

that's wonderful um

I mean I'll admit I I kind of am too

and I think we should just keep going as long as we're comfortable

and the more that we can be exposed to this

more extreme sexual behavior

the better it will be when you go home with each other

does that sound good

okay

perfect

so perfectly natural

yeah yeah

what sorry

good clients yes

I mean I'm very impressed

oh no I'm very impressed

keep going

perfect

I feel like this is bringing you both closer together already

I think it is

yeah

this is a good exercise

just keep going

I think I'm gonna go with my level of arousal as well

hahaha

alright uh huh

your son has a great cock

yes he does

the more you get into it the better they work

definitely make sure your husband doesn't know about this

you better not find out you better not say anything

that's great that's great just keep going with it

I usually have such attractive patients

she's so pretty sucking my cock

I'm just doing my job

oh

such good enthusiasm

hmm hmm hmm

hmm hmm hmm hmm

that's right we're just gonna keep going farther and farther

you know exactly what to do

I think I do get right on top

put that in

oh wow

oh oh my God

oh my God

this is God

oh

oh oh oh

oh fuck yes

oh oh oh oh oh oh oh

oh yes

oh just like that

oh there we go yes

oh my God

that looks so good

mm hmm

oh the deeper you go

the closer you'll be okay

oh yes

do you like this one do you like this one

oh oh yes

oh my God

fuck

oh yes

oh oh

yeah fuck

oh oh wow

oh my God

oh fuck

oh wow

fuck

yes

oh fuck

oh my God

oh yes wow

oh oh

yes

mmm

oh oh

mmm

oh oh

oh shit

oh my God yes

ah ah ah

ah

ah ah

ah ah

yes yes yes

ah ah

ah fuck

ah

oh my God

oh wow

that's amazing

you're so committed to each other

making this work

fuck yes

oh my God

oh my God

oh fuck yes

ah ah ah

fuck yes

ah fuck mmm

oh my God

oh yes

oh oh

oh fuck

oh yes

oh my God

oh my God

it feels amazing oh

my God yes

oh my God

wow

oh fuck

oh yeah

oh

my God oh

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God

oh oh

mmm

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oh my God

fuck yeah

oh

oh my God

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oh my God

yes yeah

mmm hmm

you should come on look at that

oh that's so good really

is that okay oh

you like that pretty little thing

oh my God

yes fuck

oh oh

oh oh yes

fuck oh

my God fuck

oh God yes

that feels so good fuck

that feels so good oh yeah

oh yeah

oh my God yes

oh my God

oh

hmm hmm

oh

wow

oh

hmm hmm

hmm hmm

hmm

oh

I think the next step would be for him to fuck you from behind right

yeah

oh my God

oh wow

oh my God

oh so hot

oh so pretty

oh so pretty

thank you oh

my God oh yes

there we go oh yeah see

oh fuck

it's okay that you're fucking your mother

it's great yeah right it feels good

oh my God yes

oh my

God

oh fuck

oh wow

oh fuck

oh yeah

oh

oh

OK I think I need you deeper

back up oh

back up uh huh

there we go oh

fuck

oh

oh my God

there we go there we go

oh wow

oh yes

right in there right in there

nice and deep oh yes

uh huh

uh huh uh huh

uh huh

mmm yes

uh huh uh huh

uh huh oh

my God

yes

oh

you're doing such a good job

both of you I'm so impressed

oh my God

oh my God

so great both of you

oh fuck oh

oh wow yeah

I wanna see you fucker

see you working together as a team now

it's the best therapy session I've ever had

ah

mmm

ah

yes give in to your arousal

oh

that feels so good oh my God

oh ah

ah ah

ah ah

ah ah

ah ah

oh yes fuck

oh my God

oh

yeah

oh my God

oh my God

that feels so good fuck

oh my God oh fuck

oh yeah

oh my God

oh oh my God

oh

fuck

oh

yeah

oh

oh man

fuck

yeah oh

oh my God

oh your son is good at this

you should be proud of him

oh

my God

yeah

oh fuck

oh fuck

oh oh yeah

oh oh oh

oh oh

yeah

mmm

oh fuck

oh oh

oh oh

my God fuck

oh oh

my God

oh yes

it's so hot oh

it's so good yes

it's so hot oh yes

oh you're big ass

oh it's so hot

oh it's so good

oh you're so encouraging

this is good

oh

yes

oh

yeah oh yeah

oh my God

oh my God

oh fuck

hmm hmm

oh oh

yeah

mmm

yeah yeah

hmm hmm

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oh my God so sexy

fuck oh my God

hmm

oh my God

oh

let me taste your pussy let me taste your pussy oh

wow

oh

yeah

oh yeah

oh

oh oh

oh yeah

oh my God

fuck yes

oh my God

oh fuck

oh my God yes

oh oh

oh fuck oh

oh my God

oh baby yeah

oh

mmm mmm mmm

I wanna taste that pussy

mmm mmm mmm

oh my God

fuck

what you gonna do now son

oh my God

oh right in there

no hesitation such a good boy

oh

yeah

oh fuck yeah oh

oh shit

oh that looks amazing

that feels amazing it's so good

oh

oh

yeah

oh fuck yeah

oh ah

ah

ah

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oh shit yeah

yeah

oh

hmm

ah

follow instructions well

uh huh

oh

mmm

oh so fucking

oh yes

oh yeah

right there right there

right there son

just like that just say that

uh huh oh yeah

yeah yeah

oh shit

uh huh uh huh

oh fuck uh huh

yes yes yes

yes yes yes

yes yes

run my clip run my clip

ah ah

ah ah

ah ah yes

come on ah

come on ah

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oh shit

oh my God

yes

oh shit

oh fuck

oh my God

so good

so good

oh

ah ah

oh

oh fuck

oh there we go

oh

that enthusiasm oh shit oh

so like

it's working everyone yeah

good

I think so

oh my God

oh my God

oh

oh

oh my God yes

oh yeah yeah

oh my God

ah

mmm

ah

yeah

mmm

oh oh oh

I think it's one of my favorite sessions

yeah yeah

let's do this one mmm hmm

oh oh

oh

fuck

yes oh

my God hmm

oh yes

oh

oh yes

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oh my

oh my God

oh my God yes

yes

oh

oh I feel so good

oh oh

oh my God hmm

oh

yes I'm sick

it's so big wow

oh yeah

oh yeah

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oh

oh my God

oh my God

oh my God

oh my God

oh my God

oh my God

oh my God

yeah yeah

oh oh

oh

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oh oh

oh oh

oh

oh

oh my God

we're getting really close to the end of our time together

and I have more clients so um

we have to close out the session

and I'm gonna show you exactly how we're gonna do that okay

alright ah

I'm gonna have you pull out here hmm

okay we're gonna put your mom right where I was okay

this will be your final exercise

okay and we're gonna bring you as close as we can together

all right okay go deep inside of her

ah and I'm gonna have you fuck her until she makes you come okay

it's gonna be really important that you're gonna come for us

and this will solidify your bond together

and you'll have this wonderful memory when you go home okay

yeah yeah wonderful

so keep fucking

oh

yeah and right before you come

I have you look deep into her eyes

you're gonna pull out and then you're gonna go all over our faces

just like it's her lingerie okay

okay wonderful

fuck her nice and deep for me okay

make your mom feel good

oh yeah

right there right there so

oh yeah

I can see how good your bond is

it's wonderful so good

oh yeah

right there right there right there

yes oh

yeah

there we go there we go

yeah yeah

ah ah ah

ah

hmm

ah ah

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ah ah

ah ah

amazing

well do you feel closer

yeah I think it worked

I feel much closer

should see what I have in store for your next session I'm excited