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hey everybody welcome back to plug talk my name is adam 22 i'm here joined by my

lovely fiance lena the plug hi everybody and today we have the one and only

valentina nappy here on the orange couch it's a very big honor to have you here

thank you i'm it's a really good honor for me too guys yeah we're uh we're very

very excited um okay so tell us a little bit just about where you're from in

italy and what your upbringing was like so i'm from pompeii

and i've been doing porn yeah of course call it what it is girl say whatever you

want uh i've been doing porn for 12 years a little bit more than 12 years

now okay and that's been a dream for me since day one and the other crazy thing

is after so many years i'm not i'm not tired like i love

still shooting for companies i love this type of stuff and you do everything i

just heard you talking about a gangbang anal everything but i want you to go

back to the italy days like in the beginning okay you just jumped right in

just a little bit just tell me a little bit about what your upbringing was like

in italy and how that might have led you to even thinking about getting into sex

work oh like what was your life like growing up as a kid oh well i they my

parents tried to raise me catholic so i I had to do porn, you know, to fix that.

Like, my mom, she wanted me virgin until the marriage, that type of stuff.

Right. And I never, like, I never understood why all the people around me

were so obsessed with sex.

Uh-huh. You know, people say, oh, you do porn, you're obsessed with sex. No, no,

because I get off, and after that, I don't think about sex all the time.

Right. And when I...

repressive people i feel like they talk about sex way more than we do in porn

you know so i was like why are why are humans so irrational towards sex you

know so even when you were young you kind of felt that way you thought it was

sort of bizarre that your mom was obsessed with keeping you not just my

mother but the whole people around me the whole society why even uh

my teenagers friends they will when i was a teenager too they will say oh you

cannot do this because you're a girl and then i just want to do the same things

they will do like if i was dating three different guys in a week they they will

say oh you're acting like a slut but if they will date three different girls in

a week that will be you know okay for them this is interesting because i feel

like here in america we have this idea that people are a lot more open-minded

like in europe than they are here but it sounds like very similar to the messages

i heard growing up the world is all the same at the end of the day and it's

probably because has to do a lot with human nature it's not just culture i

feel like religion embrace and make it makes it bigger our like instincts like

you know jealousy and slut shaming they're probably on our instincts

because in the past it will have made perfectly sense like if i was born

two centuries ago where there's no antibiotic no texting testing uh there's

no control on how many babies you want to have i would probably be a nun right

but to be fair the reason why there is that double standard is because any guy

who could get three girls to have sex with them in a week probably has

something going for him because it's difficult to get women to have sex with

you whereas every woman on earth could get three guys to have sex with her this

week

But a very small percentage of men could.

Yeah. So that kind of explains the whole double standard. It's not really a

double standard because it's like men and women are fundamentally different.

Anyway, I was thinking that. I was like, okay.

I think we should retain our moral values on

sex.

And I wish we live in a world where everybody's having sex with everybody

and getting laid is a right.

A right?

Yeah. But what if you suck?

What if you don't deserve to get laid? What if no one wants to have sex with

me? Then what happens to that right?

Well, I mean, in this country you don't have free medical care, but I think it

should be something similar. You don't have a bonus to go to prostitutes or...

or something so you think that should be like or maybe um you know uh maybe you

can do a course to learn how to get laid but it's still not going to make it a

right you know because it's but i think that like some sort of prostitution

voucher is a pretty cool idea yeah we should start the list with vibrators and

flashlights like i think we can start from there like you know one vibrator

for household

let me ask you something this is just at the top of my mind what if you were you

ever caught masturbating as a kid no never no okay were you do you have a

story oh yeah plenty of times no i was just wondering i was just wondering like

what you do like what do you like my mom still thought was a virgin when i met my

husband at 19 but i already had like 10 15 partners i think okay so were you

like the town hoe or did you have a reputation no

It was weird because I was hanging out mostly with guys.

Like my friends group were all guys.

But I never had sex with any of them. And then I had dates or fuck buddies.

So maybe you had that reputation just because you had guy friends.

I think I had that reputation more because I was seeing it. Because they

never saw me doing any of that stuff. Because it was away from my group

of friends. Or I never had.

dated someone in school had sex with someone in school so it's not like the

people around me could see what i was doing okay i got you so when did you

start to think about entering the sex industry the sex work world when i was a

teenager has always been like a fantasy and then at the end of high school i was

studying art and the avant-garde movement and i was just feeling like

we we didn't like hit the bottom of the maximum of things but so

many other arts are being explored so much and in porn there's still so much

to do and at the same time i felt this urge of trying yeah to understand

sexuality better and why people are so irrational towards sexuality and also

just have fun because i felt like all the people around me was actually boring

so you just really wanted to have new experiences primarily

yeah but not just that like i promised myself i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do it

right and i'm gonna try to show people another phase of porn because you know

there's certain stereotypes about these misses and unfortunately some are based

on true facts um were you uh able to start doing porn in italy or oh yeah

okay there's a whole industry i would say it's more legal over there than out

here because in italy everything that is not illegal is legal while here you have

the common law so there's like you know there's a line that you don't know you

can cross or not interesting uh and there's no laws about porn so there's no

laws about porn in italy at all no so you can kind of do anything it seems

like there should be some laws yeah definitely so don't bang a horse that's

rule number one i mean i feel like that's probably i mean you're still

gonna have problem to you know share the type of footage

Zofilia is illegal.

So you can make the horse porn, you just can't sell it.

No, you cannot. It's not legal to have sex with animals in Italy. It's not

illegal? It's not legal. It's not legal.

Bestiality is not legal. Bestiality is not legal, no. Oh, okay. You guys are

confusing the two.

Adam's like talking about gross shit on here. No, I was just curious. I could

very easily imagine a culture that didn't bother to make laws about not

banging horses.

That's not Italy.

Not Italy, okay. They're advanced.

Okay, so you're in Italy and what age do you start doing porn?

20. 20?

And you had already met your husband at this time, but were you guys married

yet? So, no, I've been married for two years.

We've been together 13.

Oh, wow. So when I met him, I was trying to get into porn. I was webcomming

mostly. And he was in support of that? Oh, yeah. I never had the boyfriend

before him because I never tolerated jealousy.

And I think jealousy should be illegal, too.

Sex should be a right and jealousy should be illegal. I like that

worldview.

Because... uh you know the majority we we heard people speak a lot about um

violence on women and the majority of cases when women get beat up or killed

or raped is because of jealousy like the guy is jealous i mean the girls are that

too but usually the guys are get tends to be more violent so if we like prevent

that for instance you know if a guy decides to uh

do something crazy but it's not considered dangerous yet but we keep an

eye on those people maybe we can prevent some killing like start to look at

jealousy in a different way to make it more like instead of shaming slut let's

shame jealousy no like you're jealous you should be ashamed that's how it

should be because i remember even when i was young in high school that i was

jealous of like stuff like like that my high school girlfriend had made out with

this dude that i knew beforehand and even as a young guy i knew like you're

gonna have to get over this because yeah when you're young it's like it seems so

normal it's like encouraged the older you get the more sexual experience

everybody's gonna be so it's like if you're gonna be horrified by that you're

just gonna have to get over it at some point you know but is there like any

ounce of jealousy you tolerate like at all just one i feel like there's always

like a little bit of jealousy in a relationship right so you never get

jealous of him either It has to be, like, I will feel jealous if he's not

taking care of my needs.

Like, if he makes me feel lonely or stuff like that. But at that point,

being jealous doesn't even make sense because the whole relationship is based

on taking care of each other.

So there's just...

you know okay it's jealousy is not even the right feeling at that point but to

be fair if you're a porn star in a relationship i think that the things

that are going to trigger jealousy are a lot more overt than the average

relationship because if you're a porn star you might come home from work with

a little bit of cum in your hair and if you're the porn star's boyfriend you're

just gonna have to suck it up right not literally suck it up but you're gonna

have to just deal with it well my husband never showed me any sign of

jealousy in

in that sense like there's no i think it's once a dude he's really secure

himself has no competition with the other dudes right like as long you know

he gets his piece of the cake so so when you first started doing porn what was it

like and at what point did you move to america oh i never moved here oh you

still live out there primarily yeah i still live in italy okay uh after i

think i asked for my work visa after two three years

So I had two full years in Europe and then I started to shoot here.

Right. And how did you like it when you first started shooting?

Well, here, working in general is better.

Like, not just in porn. When I hear about people working in university or

other things, they see here work is more organized. It's more a culture of

working. But then at the same time, I feel like people here flip more.

Because probably there's way more jobs here. And Europe is a little bit...

Like, if you lose a job, it's a big deal. It's hard to find a new job. And

here it's a little bit easier.

So, yeah. I mean, bigger dick.

Bigger roads.

Bigger productions.

Bigger dicks.

Bigger dicks? Yeah, I mean, we have some giant penises in Europe. But there's not

many. I feel like Italians... We don't have a lot of... Okay.

I feel like amongst white people...

Italians seem like they probably have the bigger end of the spectrum.

What do you think? It's only in porn.

Only in porn? Like, we have a few Italian dudes and their dicks are big,

but it's not... I fucked a lot of Italian dudes, so I can... I can tell

you. But take me through your... I can make my own personal statistic. Right.

Okay. Take me through your first day on set.

First time doing porn.

Well, my first official scene was with Rocco Cifredi. It was just a POV, me and

him. An hour and 40 minutes of anal without lube.

That was your first scene ever?

Yeah. What the fuck? Why was it an hour and 40 minutes? Why did you go into the

deep end on your first date? POV without lube.

Because it just, you know, when you're horning, you start to fuck and you

forget you need lube.

No, that's never happened to me.

With anal?

I don't recommend it because after, you know, like you get a dry ass, but it was

cool. I never, I didn't know I liked anal that much before.

Right. I discovered thanks to giant penises.

So bigger is better when it comes to your butthole. For ass.

For ass. My vagina is more like any size friendly.

Like I come even with small penises. But you're telling me that a small penis

hurts more or is worse for anal? It feels weird. A small dick in my

ass. Feels like... I don't want to say this.

I should not say.

I don't want to shame.

you know i don't i don't want to shame people with small penises because

someday when i'm working a lot and they're all giants i'm like can i have a

normal penis today like what do we have to have all but my thing is you're

talking about doing an hour and 40 minutes with rocco i mean he's been

doing it for a long time i'm just imagining him like if i'm doing his job

but maybe i'm doing like you know 30 minutes like 40 minutes like that's just

impressive that he would just be like i've been doing this for so long and i'm

still going two hours i don't care that's a long time you know when you

have that passion the lust that burned into you you're gonna have long scenes

there's a few performers like that no it's not italian like here johnny scenes

on that level like there's a few you like guys who are like real romantic

when they're you depends like you can call me a little horn though i'll still

be happy you like both so you do your first scene as anal an hour 45 minutes

and after you're done you're like i want to do that again you're just totally

happy oh yeah god my ass was like thinking about it i wouldn't be here

otherwise yeah had you done a bunch of anal in your private life before that oh

okay so you're already yeah yeah i've been basically i lost my virginity and

then i think a few weeks after i tried it all too why were you so motivated to

push the limits

uh i mean i was just curious and i think it's an italian thing because uh

catholic girls they like to keep their virginity so they just get fucked in the

ass so it's just people i don't know it's anal anal is a thing in italy it's

a thing yeah it's like pizza it's just like popular locally yeah exactly that's

cool man in european porn too i don't remember like at the beginning was

feeling if i was not doing it almost was not porn really yeah they would like

companies even when i came here first time i was shooting like three times a

week anal i did like for three months i had only one vaccine

and all the others were anal you never thought like your first scene should

maybe do be vaginal like start like no on level one and then move yeah i

discovered that too you know that there was like these virginity levels in porn

yeah which is like i get it for money probably makes sense for building the

brand i mean i don't i would never want to be that type of yeah chicken anyway

like i'm i'm here to fuck hard I'm not here to slowly lose my virginities

anyway and I'm you know I've been here like this business for 12 years so I you

know I mean when I as a girl after she's been in the business for like six years

seven years and she's like I'm doing my first date I'm like okay girl but I love

the way the porn industry really gaslights girls because it's like

obviously the porn industry wants them to do anal But they can't make them do

anal. But so the porn industry will be like... I don't want to shame anyone.

You just feel your body and do whatever feels good and whatever.

But the porn industry kind of almost makes it seem like we don't even want

you unless you do anal. So the girls feel like that's really part of the

deal, right? And the girls always say... It used to be like that. When I started,

it was the end of the gonzo area.

And now porn has become way more vanilla.

Right. So that's kind of not true. You can have a career.

just never doing it doesn't matter that is weird how it's going to become more

vanilla right more pardon it's become more vanilla in a sense like porn used

to be kind of crazy right yeah more extreme like if i shoot for uh for rocco

i need a day off in between the scenes just because like just go to the spa

like do nothing get a massage and but i i love that like i would rather do like

a great once a week the completely dissatisfied me then all this like later

teases let me ask you this once you get into porn how does your standing amongst

uh your your family and your neighborhood or like what's it like in

italy once you start doing porn did you feel like people look down on you so

when uh sometimes when people ask me why do porn i say it's to put because it's

my full real name is to put shame on my family yeah that's you know that's this

type of attitude to make my grandma cry like that's the type of attitude i have

like to me was also to rebel to society rationality towards sex so i

don't give a shit what other people think about me i also have the right

personality because i'm introvert and i'd rather like be alone and know that

i'm doing something right i guess everybody then you know be with people

and not feel comfortable with my morality so you're doing porn as a

principled stand yeah on what you believe in yeah exactly so i'm guessing

your family doesn't talk to you i don't talk to them oh okay okay did they sort

of blacklist you or did you kind of make the final decision no like i mean we

were trying for a little bit uh and then i just decided to just completely cancel

them from my life they're just too conservative they're just never going to

be that cool with you yeah i mean like people i want around me have to be

people that support me fully like they believe in what i do in my ideas

otherwise i don't want them in my life like i don't have friends they're like

you know i will never let my girl do this like if they have that type of

mentality out so women need to have full autonomy no no rules placed

on any relationships that you're it's not about i have rules in my

relationship it's not about not having rules it's about you know guys like to

have sex with multiple women why should be different in the other way like yeah

we have different sex drive but i'm saying as as a rule in general Why

shouldn't we be different? Why shouldn't we have the same freedom?

Respect.

So, okay. What drives you to do the more extreme stuff in terms of the gangbangs?

Is the gangbang extreme?

It's just a bunch of you taking lines. That sounds extreme to me.

It's extreme in the sense that it's a lot more than what the average porn star

does, I guess, right?

When you do gangbangs, are you doing double vag, double anal?

no i've done double anal but i kind of cheated because i took one regular penis

and one small one so it was like so it's like one big one yeah i don't know

how you call that cheating it's two men you're discounting one of them and

they're so hurt sorry she's so humble um i've tried double vag but same

but like you know not not too big But I prefer just regular TP.

That feels so good.

Really? Oh, yeah. One of my favorite things.

Definitely.

I'm avoiding it myself, personally. I can only imagine.

Thank you for calling me out there. But she should try. Have you tried?

No. You should. I only have one penis. We've talked about doing it with a

dildo. We never even got to that stage, have we? It's not the same thing. It's

not? Yeah, I didn't think so.

Seems like a start.

Okay. So where do you feel like you're at in your porn career? Because you kind

of were saying earlier that you've been doing it for 12 years and that you don't

have any plans on stopping?

No, I feel like it just started.

Really? Yeah.

I also now have the popularity to start to do my own things.

And I've been wanting to do this since day one.

So yeah, I'm really excited.

So did OnlyFans change everything for you?

Yeah, kind of for everybody.

Money-wise. For the rest, not really.

Are you still motivated to shoot for directors and studios?

Oh, yeah. I love it because I just have to show up. They make me pretty.

We shoot things that maybe I didn't think about it, so I get new ideas, new

inspirations. They pick up a beautiful penis for me. I have great sex. I get

paid. I go home.

So you come out to L.A. and you shoot a couple times a year? For me, it's kind

of like I'm working, but it's kind of like a vacation because when I'm back

home, you know i have editors photographers like i have to manage a

team for other things and when i'm out here i just have to show up to work yeah

then yeah i have to put my effort in the day but then that's it when i go back to

sleep i'm just sleeping i don't think about other stuff but you don't shoot

for companies out in italy anymore or do you there's not immediately italy

there's like two companies maybe i never shot for them because they look really

amateur um but you should go around different areas of europe where they do

shoot more yeah yeah barcelona um budapest i mean i guess you guys know no

i actually don't know okay we haven't been i don't even know like where the

big porn yeah i have no idea what barcelona paris budapest frog those

aren't serious really okay interesting and i love barcelona it's like it's

always fun to go there and i love it so she does too yeah we're gonna go back

there definitely

So anyway, how do you feel about getting into something?

What do you mean?

Wearing underwear?

I know, so not like me. How dare you?

Thank you.

You get comfy?

Yeah.

grow over boy yes i am so tiny and then it grows and there's no still hard yet

You like that?

Yeah.

Whoa.

lay down put my boobs on you let's do this

My eyes really hurt.

Those boobs in your car? Love it.

Love it.

Calm.

Fuck you gonna make me fucking Fuck.

Oh my

God.

You can give it to me again. You want me to? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Take a look at my face this time.

Oh,

I gotta use both hands.

Give me your top.

Oh,

fuck.

Oh, fuck.

Yes!

It's okay. It's a little bit. It's the second cup.

I'm still drinking off.