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hey everybody welcome back to plug talk my name is adam 22 i'm here with my

lovely fiance lena the plug hi everybody and today we have two stars in their own

right joining us would you care to introduce yourselves lumi ray my name is

spencer barrack aka damon dice and uh yeah we're doing something a little bit

different today we decided to bring in a few different acquaintances that we have

and just kind of have a good conversation about lord knows what but

let's introduce lumi ray first i met you on a no jumper patreon episode would you

want someone that kazumi brought through maybe oh so she did she tell you about

it um i've heard about it yeah through mutual friends and then i think josh hit

me up Right, okay. Josh getting mentioned on Plug Talk, that's cool.

So tell us a little bit about how you ended up being where you're at in the

adult world or where you're coming from.

Well, I was a cook for seven years before this and started with OnlyFans.

Were you cooking on OnlyFans?

I wasn't. I was posting some nudes, but that was kind of it. And then through

promoting on Twitter.

People in the porn industry were like, you should do more.

And so then I started shooting around February last year.

And how's that been going?

It's been great. I like getting to do both, like the content trade as well as

production, sets, and all of it. It's been fun.

Was it kind of mind-blowing, though, shooting the real stuff for the first

time? Not really. And I think that's what made me realize I could do it for

work. It wasn't a big deal to you? Yeah, it just didn't feel like this crazy

thing.

It felt more natural and just... When you were a cook, did you imagine that

you'd ever do something like this? Was there any man that told you that you

were this very sexual being?

I was pretty promiscuous starting from a younger age, for sure.

As soon as I started having sex, I was like...

I like this. I like doing this a lot. And even have some videos that are

archived with ex-boyfriends.

So I knew I was like, well, I like doing this. And being in front of the camera

naked was very, felt more fun than anything.

Is the being watched part what makes it exciting for you? Like on set, everyone

can see you? Or is it just doing the actual sex acts? Just doing it. I

honestly, like it doesn't really affect me. That's why when I went to shoot my

first scene, I was like.

there's like seven people watching me have sex and for some reason that

doesn't bother me but also isn't it's not like what's getting me off okay but

what kind of scene was your first scene it was for uh exploited college girls so

it was very like it was kind of like gonzo but they interview you

i had sex for three hours for my first scene so they definitely did you feel

exploited yeah that's usually the one site that that's first shoot i don't

know why they find the girls for the first shoot i don't know it's always

like the first one i hear is exploited calls go away three hours

well i was talking to somebody in the industry the other day and they told me

that that's like one of the biggest genres in porn is like girls doing their

first scene and that there's a handful of different sites that this is their

whole thing which i don't know why that never occurred to me that that would be

its own little island yeah it is and but i did it it was definitely

kind of like is it always this long and then once they searched me for other

people they're like no was he fucking you for three hours just because he was

horny or was it like they were getting just tons of content out of it Probably

both. Because there's like.

They're milking it for sure.

Yeah. Definitely milking it. They're definitely milking it for sure. Because

there's like 20 or 30 minutes of it on Pornhub that you can go watch. And

people are like, oh, that's your first scene. I'm like, no.

There's like so much more. An eighth of my first scene. Yeah. Right. But it's

crazy because that is how long other scenes are.

Yeah. So you know what I'm talking about, though? That like sometimes

you're shooting with the girls like really popping or, you know, you know

that it's going to be really popular, the footage. And it's kind of like a

bell. goes off in your head like well maybe i should just go like way longer

because this is very like we're here i might not be here anytime soon if i'm if

i'm into it yeah like as long as we can go or if it's like i'm not into i'm like

all right 15 minutes let's get this over with what is the shortest scene you've

ever done as a dude where you're like i'm out oh uh because you can't like

come too early because then you look like you can't figure it out right like

you can't do a five minute scene no like maybe in like only fan stuff like

quickies like i've done a quickie scenes in and out in a couple minutes but like

professionally scenes like the shortest one maybe is like 10 minutes okay but it

was more so like acting the sex was like secondary so But I've had the problem

where sometimes the girl will be really hot or her pussy will be really tight,

and then I come too fast. But then there's also been times where I just

don't want to be there, and I come too fast.

So don't go look for our shortest scene and just be like, oh, look, he fucking

hated it. I had a comedian friend tell me recently he faked it.

Whoa. Faked what?

An orgasm. On camera?

No. Oh, in his private life. I had to do that before.

Really? In what context?

Okay. so i had been on a trip for like a week right and it's like

multiple days like towards the end of this trip i had not jerked off like and

so i get home and i'm supposed to see this girl that i had been hanging out

with and i like really like felt pent up like i i wanted to nut to like release

the tension or whatever and i didn't think that we were just gonna fuck right

and we're supposed to like go get food or some shit and then she hits me with

the like well oh actually i just want to come over And I'm like, okay, come over.

And she comes over and like basically just jumps me. And all of a sudden we're

having sex. And you had already masturbated. I jerked off like a half

hour earlier. So I'm like fucking her through a condom. Now, I'm telling you,

I can cum two times.

But through a condom, no, it's not possible. So I'm like just banging her

with a condom on. And after a little while, I realized like I'm not going to

be able to nut. So I let out a little like, oh.

the condom you can fake it too because like you're not gonna the girl's like

the girl's not expecting it like let me see your car i'm taking the condom off

or the trick if you don't have a condom like it's happened before i was in

college like super drunk like you're just you're just worn out like yeah i

can't come to time to pass out So it's like having doggy with a little spit on

the back. Oh, my God.

Let me wipe that off real quick.

I think that was the first time I read a fake nut, though. Yeah.

I feel like it'd be really hard to fake it any other way. Yeah, the girls are

usually like, okay, where's the nut? Where is it? No, if it's like late

night, you're drunk, you're tired.

Oh, I could do it. I would just like, if I was going to fake come with you, I

would like jam the penis head against your skin and be like.

so like what it's like what quickly i don't know it just might seem like a

yeah like wipe it up right cleaning me up so i would never believe it what what

are you talking about explain that i'll be like can you bring me a towel or a

napkin and he's like he'll just like smear it on my back he won't like take

it all off you know oh yeah you need to do a couple different wipes in order to

get it layers you put like the thinnest toilet paper and you're just like okay

here you go you're clean now

the toilet paper shut the fuck up don't fight with me right now i'll be so mad

at you all right spencer before my fiance beats the shit out of me can you

just tell us a little bit about how you got into this game yeah so i've been in

this is my 10th year coming up right here so i've been in for almost 10 years

um so i started out um i started a tech company out of college 10 years ago i

created an app called ibar that live stream video from bars clubs restaurants

music festivals, that whole, whole genre.

Um, so I launched that in North Carolina, won a bunch of

entrepreneurship awards, uh, grants from the city state university. I was working

at Duke university, working with like all the top tech nerds and all that.

So back in, I launched this in 2011.

Um, so this was like iPhone two at the time. So like live streaming apps

weren't really, you know, they're brand new. So I was paying developers like

over a hundred dollars an hour. So it got pretty expensive.

So money was running out quick and I was like, fuck, I need to make money.

So I was like, I knew this one girl that did webcamming. So I was like, fuck,

maybe I could do like webcamming. So I had one of my promo girls. So me and my

promo girl, we started webcamming together to help fund my startup. This

was a decade ago.

So we were doing that for a little bit. And then she like, she's like, oh, I

want to do like amateur porn. So she started shooting amateur porn.

Fast forward a year later, she started shooting professionally.

And then in 2014, she became the best new starlet in all of porn. One X-Biz,

one AVN.

So the girl is Carter Cruz.

So we actually went to college together.

She was my promo girl.

We started doing webcamming together.

That is wild. So that's my story, how I came in. I was against porn. I was like,

I can never do porn, blah, blah.

Then I started meeting all these porn stars. I came in around the same time as

Abella and Carly Gray.

Riley was in a couple years before me. So that was my introduction to porn.

And I'm still doing a startup, being a broke startup entrepreneur.

I'm meeting all these porn stars.

I love sex.

I'm like, oh, man.

I was like, all right, I'm going to do it. So I ended up jumping in. What did

you do with the business?

I just let it go.

It just kind of dissolved? I still have the IP and all that, but it was a great

idea at the time. But, I mean, obviously you guys know how starting companies up

goes. It's like the hustle of it. It sounds like a good idea, but it also

sounds like it would ruin going to the bar because when you're going to the

bar, a big part of why you're going there is to just see if there's anyone

there. Yeah.

if I could see that there's no one there, then I'm absolutely not going.

And if I could see who's there, I might also be like, well, the way it was set

up is bird's eye view. So you couldn't really, it wasn't intrusive. You

couldn't see the people exactly. You couldn't see like, Oh, there's Adam,

like flirting with two chicks and get caught by a girl. Like you could see.

Yeah. So that, that was a big thing. Like I was like, I don't want to, I

don't want to be getting people in trouble. Like I don't want to like be

like impeding on people's privacy. So the way that their cameras are set up

was it was bird's eye view. You couldn't make out individual people from the

angles. So it was more so for like, It wasn't streaming 24 hours. It was

streaming dinner times that they wanted to show people there. Let me ask you

this. Did you always believe in your penis?

Did you feel like your penis had a future from early on? I did.

I've been an athlete my whole life.

I played sports since I was four. I did sports in college.

Even how she was talking about being a chef. My degree in college was

hospitality. I was taking hospitality classes.

I worked in restaurants.

I worked as a chef.

I credit that.

Because, like, there's so much stress in the kitchen, especially when there's a

lot of tickets coming in and you're, like, fucking swamped. So that, like,

that stress, like, I've actually said that in podcasts. It's, like, I learned

a lot in the kitchen from, like, you know, because sometimes on a porn set,

you can be stressful. If you get stressful or you get freaked out, you

can lose your wood and it's fucking done. Yeah. So you got to have that,

like, mental toughness.

So through, like, athletics and through cooking in the kitchen and, like, just

being in the weeds, like, I've learned to, like, fine tune, like, being in the

zone. and um like growing up kobe bryant like my idol fucking love kobe and like

the mama mentality is what i say it's like once i say action i'm out of it

like i i'm not seeing the camera guys i've been trying to figure out how we

apply the mama mentality to porn for a little while now so i'm glad you just

brought that up yeah so the mama mentality it's like that's the that's

the mindset there could be a crew of like 20 people and like i just black

that out or if like you know the girl that day she's not having the best day

and she's kind of being a bitch like i still gotta get the job done so i'm just

like i'm blocking all the feelings emotions and like kind of just just

locked in yeah what's the worst stuff that happens to you on camera as a dude

like the worst that you have to deal with the number one ways that a girl

could potentially like ruin your vibe number one is like attitude like i've

shot with most of the girls in the industry like you know there's girls

that are tens like the hottest girls in porn but you know in the past like they

can be a complete and just suck so they just ruined it Or there's girls that

aren't, like, the tens, but they're fucking, they want to be there. They

love fucking. Like, it's all their vibe. So is it, like, eagerness to fuck you?

Or is it more just, like, happy to be on set?

Like, do they have? No, it's more so, like, the chemistry. If you mean the

girl's chemistry, like, that's game over.

Like, but sometimes, like, you know, it's a new girl. You're meeting her for

the first time. And, like, you have nothing in common. You don't, like, know

anything about her.

Or it's, like, a girl's come to set and she just got in a fight with her, like,

boyfriend or baby daddy. Like, she's not in a good mood. So you got to navigate

through that.

So there's so many different variables.

Do you have any tools you bring out to make the scene go well or you just go

through it? Well, now that I'm later in my career, I get to choose who I shoot

with. So there's less variables of like, oh, this could be a bad day. So now I'm

shooting with girls that I know I have good chemistry with, girls that we have

fun. The first time I ever shot with her in La Sirena.

She, like, got her iCloud hacked, like, immediately. No, she got, like, a really

stressful email, like, right before.

And it was, like, you know, there's, like, a language barrier.

So she was, like, super stressed out about something. I was super hyped. I'm

like, got these two BBLs just staring me in the face. I'm so ready to go. And

then I just sort of start to realize, like, oh, she's stressed the fuck out.

She cut the scene early, which has never happened to me. But I knew it was

because she was stressed out. So I was okay with it. But you didn't really know

yet. And we did plug talk afterwards. It was fine. But it was, like, kind of, it

was a bummer. Like, just to realize, like, oh, shit, she's not.

going to be in the moment because she's dealing with this shit yeah and that's

definitely rule of thumb like i'll tell new performers like if you're in the

middle like if you're about to shoot sex don't look at your phone yeah because

someone could text you something it could be like a family issue it could be

like you know something could like trigger like yeah you know get you out

of the mood especially like right before you're about to have sex yeah so like

that's a rule of thumb that i have with myself and like i try to tell new

performers like just tips and tricks like you know you can have your phone on

before but like 15 minutes leading up to just like try to keep your mind clear

and really focus on what you're about to do i had a bad experience like when like

my second year in porn um i was shooting this scene with it was a foursome scene

it's me and three girls and we're shooting out phoenix and um one of the

girls like that we were shooting with her boyfriend at the time didn't know

she was doing porn he found out he lost his shit she lost her shit she locked

herself in the bathroom was freaking the fuck out Like, one of the PA went to go,

like, try to, like, calm her down and get her. He, like, she attacked him.

This girl was, like, losing her shit.

And Brandy Love, she was one of the girls in the threesome.

She's like, we got to get through this. Like, she's like, this is on you. I'm

like, fuck, like, this bitch just, like, attacked someone.

So, like, in that case, like, I had to go to, like, a dark place. Like, I'm

like, I had to hate fuck her at that time. Like, because I was like, this

bitch, she just attacked my friend. Like, so I was like, I just had to get

through it. And, like, it was.

I don't feel like that would be too much of a stretch for me. I feel like fucking

a girl that I'm very annoyed with is...

i've done that a lot of times in my life i'm like use that energy yeah so that's

that's energy you can use if you're not into it you're like just trying to

destroy her get done oh yeah we got it done she came back out she finally came

back down i just destroyed her just i was like all right i'm gonna make this

oh my god i was like that's her fault for not telling for lying and keep this

from her boyfriend like yeah that's probably a bad move i mean what was

supposed to happen yeah how many times can you go in a day if it comes down to

it In my personal life, probably, like, seven or eight I've done.

Just for fun?

For fun, yeah. Wow.

How many scenes have you done a day? Most scenes I've done a day is six.

Six? Yeah, so I did this one shoot. It was, like, a reality house type thing.

So, like, we're waking up. Like, I'm cooking breakfast, getting a blowjob.

We're doing, like, just having sex throughout the day.

And it's all live streamed, and they're just following you around? No, it's not

live streamed. There's camera crew. So it's, like, basically, like, real world,

but we're having, like, we're, it's.

ten like it was like eight to ten porn stars were in a house for like three

days was it a browser snack it was reality kings oh okay yeah so that was

like six scenes in one day see that i've always kind of liked that idea of like

just being in that sort of sexual state that you're in when you're doing porn or

whatever but like let's just do that yeah it's not like a it's not like a

real it's not like a regular shoot and then you'd be like okay turn off the

cameras i'm done No, I feel like I could go, like, you know, chill out. But if

there's a bunch of people fucking and stuff, I feel like it wouldn't be that

hard for me to just snap back into the mentality.

Yeah, and these aren't, like, real, like, production shoots where it's,

like, you know, you do pretty girl stills. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, like,

we're having sex, like, in a real organic environment. And then, like, you

know, like, oh, I'm, like, playing video games. A girl wants to come, like, give

me a blowjob. We're doing it. So it's just, it was organic.

I like that.

So have you guys banged before?

We have.

How was that? And how did it happen? I like her face.

It was off camera.

How?

That's hot. They're going to like that.

We just met that same night.

We met that night, too.

When was this? How long ago?

During the summer,

I think.

We were some mutual friends at some rooftop place in Hollywood.

We were vibing.

Hey, you want to go fuck?

It must be so weird to be like an adult performer meeting another adult

performer and then having real life sex as opposed to like on camera sex.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, when you both do it for a job. And before they do it on

camera, because I feel like in most instances you meet on set and then you

fuck again later. That's why. This is our first time on set together, yeah.

Yeah, this is the first time fucking in front of a camera. Wow. But when I met

him, I was like, oh, I haven't gotten to fuck you yet.

Okay. Was there ever a chance of you guys dating?

um is there i mean magic in the air is this awkward how many times do you keep

sleeping together after that we slept together one time yeah so you weren't

feeling each other that much i live in vegas so it's like vegas i'm not here uh

distance makes the heart go i don't do the long distance relationship you can't

yeah it's tough i've tried i've tried do you do relationships in porn in general

and like dating porn stars or just like i mean you've been in the industry yeah

i've dated like because when we met i was dating kimchi oh that's right so

like i always forget so that's how we met way back together yeah um so i've

dated girls in the industry and i've dated girls not in the industry it's

tough both ways like it just just the facts of like we're sex workers and is

it the same as what the girls say like first the girls cool with it that you do

porn and then after a while yeah they're always cool with it at first really

they're like they say they're cool with it and then they like you know they fall

for you more or they realize they fall for you more and then like they're

seeing your video your clips or like they're like oh like feeling some type

of way i don't know everyone's different so i can't generalize on how people feel

the relationships but my experience is like there's always some sort of like

animosity or jealousy with yeah see with me and her every time i've ever thought

about us breaking up it's like i'm either gonna end up with a mega sex

worker or a substitute teacher like a normal ass person or a fucking or

somebody who's all the way crazy in like yeah somebody we already probably know i

don't know i don't got anybody in mind but it's kind of like i always just

wonder like what would be better like what would i actually be happier with

clearly from like my career it'd probably be better to be with a crazy

yeah and i've been on both ends of the spectrum on dating so it's like Maybe

find something in the middle.

It's tough. It's tough to navigate. A weak-ass porn star?

Somebody who's kind of mid?

I'd go civilian or fucking full-blown porn star.

But I'm friends with most of the girls.

We're friends.

I want to get romantically involved with my coworkers. Have you ever dated a porn

star where they don't get mad at you about the porn shit?

Where they actually are cool? Not the ones I've dated.

I usually don't care.

Well, you're not in love.

Yeah. Have you ever dated somebody who was a real porn star? Yeah.

Oh, okay. I've had like flames slash dated two male talents.

Really? And I honestly would get off when their videos would pop up on

Twitter. I'd be like, oh, that's nice.

But then what made it end?

Honestly, just busy schedules. And one of them, it was just lack of.

communication i was kind of like meh but would they get mad when you would shoot

or it was like all cool i at least didn't know they were getting mad i

don't think they were getting mad okay yeah because to me it's like when you

meet somebody and you start dating you kind of like accept them as they are and

then usually like if they start to do more fucked up shit or like you know if

you met somebody and they didn't do cocaine and then they started doing

cocaine it's very easy to imagine getting pissed off about it right but

it's like if you meet somebody and they drink a bunch It's like, well, you might

want them to stop drinking, but you're going to kind of accept them as a person

who drinks. Right. And I feel like if you meet somebody and they don't do porn

and then start doing porn, it's going to be so different than if I met a girl and

she had already done porn for a few years. I feel like it would be hard for

me to like if I really wanted to be with her, I would just have to accept that.

Right. Yeah.

I had.

The last civilian I was dating, though, or not dating, kind of dating.

That's. was our situation we he met me when i was still a chef and then like

a month later i was like so i went to arizona and he was actually really

really cool about it really but again we weren't like in love yeah and he was

just like but then he was also like oh it's kind of hot i can like go watch

your videos yeah no definitely i've like kind of dated girls in the past who were

like porn stars or had done porn And I wasn't nuts over them, so I didn't give

a fuck.

And I could jerk off to their porn for some reason. That just was more

appealing to me. I don't know why.

So I think that's been my thing. I haven't been in love since I've been in

porn, but so far it's more of a turn-on to me than a turn-off. A weird dynamic

is when you're seeing somebody, you get in a fight with them, and then you go

watch a cumshot compilation.

Of them.

Of them.

And it just kind of, like, makes you feel better about everything. Like,

okay, she's mad at me, but fuck her. Look at her. Look at her.

Take 20 nuts to the face. Fuck her. What the hell is she saying?

Are you slut-shaming her?

No, but I'm just saying, like, in the moment, at least, it made me feel all

right about things.

Wow. I'd like to explore that deeper and why, but okay. Yeah,

I want to figure out the psychology behind that one. That's interesting.

Well, you know, if you're trying to get over somebody.

and you can watch them get gang banged that helps that helps in my past at

least that's what's good about like porno like ex-girlfriends it's like

you're not with them anymore but you can still watch at work or like watch the

the movies you did with them so it's like all right i can still experience it

but i don't have to experience it but are you that are you that level of porn

fan where you stay interested in their catalog like later into their career

because like for me like if i like a band realistically i probably really

like that band for like a year or two And then at some point they're putting

out albums and I don't give a fuck. No, I stay with the OG stuff usually.

Do you still watch a lot of porn yourself even though you've been in it

for 10 years and you know how the sausage is made? Not as much. Not as

much. Do you watch your own stuff a lot? I watch my own stuff, yeah. Because I

get to relive that experience.

So it's like I'm not watching some other dude fucking use his dick.

People are like, oh, you're conceited.

Watch your own porn. I remember that experience. I get to go back and time

travel and re-experience that.

But you ever watch it and just be like, damn, I did not perform the way I should

have. There's been times like that, yeah.

That's a terrible feeling.

Are you looking at your own ass? It's crazy.

Even on Pornhub, one of my worst, worst scenes ever has 60 million views. I'm

like, how the fuck is this my most viewed scene ever? And I fucking hate

it. What made it the worst?

Well, we were talking about earlier. I came early.

Oh, okay. So I was like, we were doing the still pictures in the beginning, and

I was like, fuck.

I was like, I feel really sensitive.

I'm not going to last long. The tickle is strong. The tickle was real strong in

that one. So I'm like doing like real slow strokes or like just not. Have you

ever like been in that position and said, let's just do this cum shot and

then give me 15 minutes and then I'm going to fuck the shit out of you with a

pretty solid dick that's not going to cum. Yeah, I've done that. Like I've had

to, not often, but like there's been times where it's like a couple minutes

and I'm like, fuck, I got to cum. We might as well just do the cum shot.

so we'll do the cum shot and then like 10 15 minutes later i might need to do

that someday like that sounds like something that there are times where i

might be better off doing that yeah because you're gonna like get a better

effort on that second round because you're not like sensitive and just like

trying to like struggle through it but are you not prepping like he'll always

jerk off before he comes to do blood talk

all the time i'll let this one go you talk about your pre-game have i okay yes

i feel like you have yeah i'm a weirdo like if i'm shooting a scene at 2 p.m

realistically i'm probably gonna jerk off in the shower at like 10 a.m well

give myself i like i like to save save mine up see i wish i wish i could but

then the tickle is too strong yeah so so here's a trick i learned if you got

people at home want to learn if you ever decide to do porn so like my trick if

i'm on a porn set and like i feel like i have to come too early I'll make eye

contact with the camera guy.

So I don't come.

Okay. And that fucks it up.

That makes me not want to come staring at a dude in the eyes.

So I'll be like, oh shit, this feels too good. I'm like, just look at me, bro.

Just look at me. Just look at me. We're good. Okay, we're good.

How about Adam stands on the side and he's the person and you can look in his

eyes. That could be my job.

The camera guy's always like, what the fuck? I'm like, just stick with me, bro.

Just look at me. Well, a funny dynamic that we have is that we started shooting

this show during COVID.

So the film are always...

had a mask on.

And then I believe, if I'm not getting the timeline messed up, one time, the

first time that he had the mask off, he caught a serious whiff of something that

he did not like the smell of. And I'm not 100% sure if we ever talked about

it. I don't think we ever talked about it, but I heard through the grapevine

that he might have had a little bit of a rough day.

He's still not wearing a mask, so I guess it wasn't that bad.

Not expected.

Lightning won't strike twice, right?

So yeah, the eye contact, that's helped me out in dire situations. Okay, well,

Adam, I'm going to want you to stare him right in the eye during this whole

scene. That's smart, though, because usually I'll just stare at the ceiling

or try to just think about some grass.

Also, I think if you don't have a camera, say it's a girl that's filming,

so if I was staring at her, that wouldn't help me out. So I think about

taxes. That always gets my mind off of coming real quick.

Sometimes I'll try to picture an old man naked.

oh like a really old i would just lose my wood at that point yeah but that's

like like i'm trying not to come so that losing my word is good like balance like

yeah i want to hit that like sort of middle yeah that's like hardness just

start thinking about just enough to go squeeze it in ben affleck that'll make

you i feel like i could think of way worse looking guys than him wait yeah me

too he's a pretty good looking guy but i feel like it'd be good medium because

it'll keep you excited but also

not he's not yeah honestly like thinking about ben affleck's dick is probably

just as much of a turn off of just thinking about like some 80 year old

guy's dick just because i personally don't really want to see a dick in

general yeah there you go but so just think about dicks yeah no definitely um

okay so tell me what happened we had a funny exchange on the picture on me and

lumi where She said something about sleeping with a comedian, and I fucking

guessed the comedian instantaneously. Just somehow my first guess. The first

guess? Wow. Well, he was a pretty prolific dick slanger.

So did anything ever come from that?

I mean.

Crystalia, we should just say. I was going to say.

Shout out Crystalia. I actually started seeing one of his friends, and he didn't

know. And I had like the most stressful.

antsy feeling, but then I finally told him because I was like, that clip is out

there, which is the one where he gets it. If he likes you a little too much,

he's going to start Googling and he's going to find it.

He was like, this isn't the first time.

Other than that, his wife blocked me.

Didn't get anything else. I blocked him.

Just because of the wife blocking you?

No, just because I was like, I don't, because I started hanging out with one

of his friends and now I'm hanging out with like more of comedians, not in that

way, but.

You consider yourself like a comedian groupie at all?

Yeah.

Literally just like, hey.

No.

Spitting on your titty? Yeah.

Well, I mean, I want to segue into comedy.

I want to be a comedian, kind of.

I say I do, but then I...

have like anxiety dreams doing stand-up. So, we'll see. Seems like one of the

most anxiety-inducing things I could ever imagine doing. I feel like even

more so than porn.

That's what I try to say. The stand-up part, because your timing has to be

impeccable. Oh, yeah.

It's just so many different words. Probably almost more variables.

Yeah, 100% of porn stars couldn't do stand-up and probably nearly 100% of

comedians couldn't do porn. Show that to Jason Ellis, though. It's so much easier

to criticize comics than it is porn. You know, porn is like, there's good porn

and there's bad porn, but it's like, you know, this is pretty much. what's

happening yeah if you have sex for like however long on camera you've you've

done the porn job yeah like to a certain extent right like there is good and bad

but if you could do it that's okay whereas with comedy i mean every person

is a pretty rough podcast or a comedy critic really yeah because it's just you

like what you like it's a lot harder to make someone even if you try don't try

to listen to comedy you've heard a lot of it yeah and you realize that some of

it's bad and some of it's good you know yeah

but it makes sense though because like when i was going to metal shows or like

you know when i was a bmx dude there would always be like chicks who were

into bmx all of a sudden they're dating like the top pro bmx riders because

there's not that many other girls trying to date them you know so they're just

they get in there and same thing with like bands and shit if you're a girl and

you're decent looking and you like a certain type of band i mean it's not

gonna be too hard for you to climb that ladder is there one common thing that

you've found about dating all comedians like do all comedians do this They're

all pretty dark inside. And they all have...

Like... They all have issues.

But that's why they... I think so.

Yeah. Are they, like, ripping jokes before they're fucking you? Or, like,

they're trying to, like, make fun... I've had... Is that their foreplay? I've

had people do, like, little bits. Like... Oh, my God.

Does it turn you on? Like that? I'm kind of just, like...

i'll stop i like we i can't or like do voiceovers for

is there like a moment in dating a comedian though where you sort of

realize like he's he's doing bits like he's like is there a fine line between

like you just talking to me and you like clearly going through a little bit that

you kind of rehearsed uh i don't think that's happened yet

unless i'm just not aware of it but i feel like sometimes i can catch it where

they're like trying to get me to yes and or like do certain things okay i've

actually fucked a comedian that looks like him so when i met him i was kind of

like oh that's cool yeah it's much better though for sure i'm gonna

assume he was the other guy was funnier and that he has a better dick he's

actually pretty funny

But not as a job.

I mean, that's pretty fucking funny. If you can entertain hundreds of people in

the crowd. Actually, my favorite porn shoot is, like, comedy, like, funny

shit. Really? Just the, like, light, like, funny shit. The cheesy stuff?

Yeah, the cheesy shit. Cheesy or, like, dark and creepy. I don't like, like, the

romantic or, like, the ego or the step. Like, either funny or, like, dark.

Are you typecast as anything in porn?

Now that I got gray hair, they're trying to throw me in the stepdad role.

I'm going to retire before I start playing the stepdad.

I'm usually in suits.

I'm the business-y.

I'm always in suits. That's my go-to, I'd say.

That's a good look.

I think it is kind of weird with porn because when you start shooting porn,

you kind of go into serious mode.

crack a smile or laugh during a porn set or like the part that's gonna appear on

camera right like they could always edit shit out but for the most part yeah you

gotta be locked in you kind of go into serious horny guy mode and the girls go

into serious cum slut mode and it's like because if you're laughing like for me

if i if i'm like laughing laughing i'm losing my wood like yeah it's like

there's two different mechanisms like laughing just kills it for me but i feel

like the girls are always doing like the the smiley yeah it's different yeah you

could be like smiling and laughing but it has to be like in the context of you

like happily getting dicked down yeah i don't know because some shit is

blatantly funny like if i fucking come on your eyeballs right now no that's not

funny okay but like if you're doing a porn it's kind of like on you to act

turned on by having come all of your eyeballs right you can't laugh at that

that ruins the whole boy why did i even blow this nut if you're gonna giggle i

love facials but that always makes me break character especially if it's like

if it's like a big ass load then i'm like oh i've like that's happening like

they go and i'm like yeah give it to me and i'm like oh even when i was just a

younger porn consumer i would see that in a porn and like rewind it and be like

that was crazy that was like a glimpse into the real her for a second there and

that'll happen too it's like like it's a crazy cum shot the girl just gets

blasted so the girl's like taking it and like you'll have the camera like the guy

in the camera guy will be like

like just trying not to like laugh which is like i remember watching a german

porn back in the day like there's some anal site that i was like watching when

i was like 19 and it was like you know they just i could tell they were german

they're german accents or whatever and there was one where like the girls

sucking the guys dig at first and then the filmer just walks up and just blows

and load into her mouth And, like, it was framed in the video as if, like,

whoa, the filmer just happened to be so horny that he did that. Whoa.

And I remember even being young and being like, is this a work?

Like, this was planned? Like, or did this really just happen? Because either

way seems kind of fucking weird. In Europe, like, you never know. It

probably was, like, real.

back in the day they were doing some crazy shit and it's like 20 years ago so

it's more likely to have been real but also seems pretty inappropriate to me

being that this guy's clearly not tested or anything yeah they didn't do the

testing they didn't do the waivers like yeah 15 20 years ago even like a decade

ago when i first got in they were shooting uh i'm not gonna say the

companies but down in florida and miami where they're like going to clubs and

like having sex with random girls and like you don't know their age you don't

know if they're tested like that's wild because that's how brian pumper got out

the industry yeah so like obviously that's not happening now but 10 20 years

ago plus like there was random sex on camera where we should all be very

thankful that the industry is as it is you hear some stories it sounds pretty

grimy back in the day yeah oh yeah for sure yeah speaking of grimy you guys

want to get grimy let's get grimy

Oh my God.

Don't start doing some of this.

We're professional.

Is that what you guys like?

Thank you for the clothes right here.

There you go.

Thank you.

oh my god

Fuck, this is so tight.

Down, down, down.

There you go.

Oh, my God.

Oh, fuck.

Oh, my God.

Oh,

fuck.

Oh, my

God.

Yeah, just like that.

Fuck,

it feels so good.

There you go.

There you go.

Fuck,

yes.

There you go, there you go.

Fuck.

Come here.

On your side.

Yes, daddy

Yeah. Oh my god.

Oh my

god.

Here's this fucking pussy.

Oh my god.

Oh my god.

You're sleeping. Oh my god. You're sleeping.

Oh my god.

Yes

ma

'am.

oh my god

Oh my god.

There you go. Good girl.

Good girl.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.