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Hello everyone. Welcome to another

episode of Good Hang Boy. We are excited

about our guest today. She's a gigantic

movie star and an incredible talent and

it's the one and the only Sandra

Bullock. Sandy Bullock is here today and

we talk about so many things. We're

going to get into it. We're going to

talk about

her love of physical comedy.

We're going to find out her favorite

German word and I'm going to try to

guess what it means. We're going to talk

about what a nightmare it is to stand

next to Nicole Kidman on the red carpet

and we are going to talk about her new

movie Practical Magic 2 out this week.

It is great. Check it out. She is

incredible. We are lucky to have her and

we always do this at the beginning of

our episodes. We talk well behind our

guest's back and we find somebody who

knows our guest and wants to give me a

question to ask them. So we are joined

today by two of her co-stars from

Practical Magic who play her daughters

in the film and great incredibly

talented actresses in their own right,

Joey King and Maisie Williams. Hello

ladies.

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>> [music]

>> OMG,

look at who I'm getting to talk to.

Double trouble right over here.

>> [laughter]

>> Someone just rang my doorbell. Wait,

someone is at your door. Wait, take us

with you. Who is it?

>> [laughter]

>> My husband's answering. You know what I

think? I think it's part of his

anniversary present that I got him just

arrived dry right at this moment.

>> what did you get him? Tell us. We won't

tell anyone.

>> [laughter]

>> I got cuz it's our 3-year wedding

anniversary. He's right over there.

You're going to hear what I got. It's

fine. Just go in the other room.

>> [laughter]

>> I GOT

3 YEARS of leather, so I got him a

really nice like leather carry-on like

>> And someone's delivering it to the

house? That's that's fancy.

>> Well, well, I got it shipped cuz

>> Okay, okay, so it's just it's someone

who [laughter] shipped it. Okay, got it.

>> I got it online.

>> I thought it was like a white glove

service where like a a butler is

delivering a a leather case.

>> [gasps]

>> I want my bag to have a butler.

>> [laughter]

>> Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry if we ruined

the surprise, but that was exciting. We

get excited when somebody rings the I

mean, who

>> I'm sorry someone rang the doorbell.

[laughter]

>> But who rings a doorbell anymore? Like

there's no like

>> We had this happen on on the show when

when we were with um Rachel Dratch.

>> Rachel Dratch.

>> Yes.

>> Amy, we know, girl. We've seen it.

>> [laughter]

>> Oh my god, the best. I I want that clip

comes up on my feed all the time and I

watch it just I watch it full through

every time I see it.

>> Joey King, Maisie Williams, I just want

to say I love and have watched

everything you guys have done. When I

saw that you were in this in Practical

Magic, too, when I saw that you were the

the daughters in in the film, I was

like, "Okay, okay, we're going heavy

hitter here. We've got a four top, a

real heavy four top

with Nicole [laughter]

and Sandy and you two I'm like

incredible."

>> Aw, oh my god.

>> Also, you're crushing it on TikTok.

>> We love making TikToks.

>> We really do.

>> Your TikToks are so good.

>> [laughter]

>> Oh my god, it makes me so like I feel

I'm like blushing that you watched them.

>> Now, Joey, you've been you've been on

TikTok for a a minute.

>> Yeah, [laughter] I've been I've been

there

from the beginning.

Been there a while.

>> there before COVID, I believe, which is

>> at the birth. My sister got me on

TikTok. I remember to promote one of the

Kissing Booth movies. She was like, "You

got to get on TikTok and start dancing."

And I was like, [laughter] "Yes, all

right, soldier."

Whatever you say.

>> Yep, and now here we are. I feel like

I've been watching you guys do press for

this movie, and it's been very cool to

watch not only, like I've said, very

talented women get to do

um

something very special together, but it

does feel like you have all

really enjoyed working together.

>> Yeah. It was so much fun. It was It's

kind of crazy. It was like a year ago to

the day that we finished, I think.

Right, Joey?

>> You're right.

>> Yeah. It was so We spent the whole

summer together. It was beautiful. And

then doing all this press together has

just been like such a dream. Just a lot

of giggling, actually. Yeah.

>> So much so much giggling. Maisie's like

my favorite

woman ever. So, this has just been like

the greatest joy to make such a close

friend through this film that's all

about sisterhood. I would every time,

you know, they always are like, "What

kiss spell would you cast in press if if

you had to cast one spell?" And my

answer every time was like, "I just want

Maisie to live closer to me." [laughter]

>> That would be so nice. Living in LA and

there hanging out.

>> in the waiting room to come on here, and

we're just like texting. Like, we just

can't stop. We can't stop communicating.

>> [laughter]

>> Maisie, play your cards right and a

leather briefcase will be hand-delivered

to your door in just a few years. Okay.

So, we're talking I am talking to Sandra

Bullock today.

Um whom I I really don't think I have

met.

>> Okay.

>> Yeah, I I I I mean, I know I am of the

age where I I we may have met and and I

forget, but I don't think so. We've

never really properly met. What was your

first experience meeting Sandy and what

do you love about working with her and

should I call her Sandy right away?

>> I feel like yes, you should just rock

straight in with Sandy. I feel like

she'd love it. And she always introduces

herself that way. I met her she

immediately offered me some Haribo I

think which just like broke the ice

which was lovely. And it was at the

read-through.

>> Just to be clear that's a gummy bear.

>> Yes.

A gummy bear.

>> Got it.

>> Right.

>> Yeah, important to make that

distinction.

>> Yes.

>> Yep.

>> Um and she texts us immediately. It's

your mother here. Like how she gets us.

>> Mother.

>> [laughter]

>> Mother.

>> Take mother it's your mother. It was

>> It's your mother.

>> [laughter]

>> Um and [clears throat] she just like

ever since has just been like a mother

to us on set. It's been so special. We

went for a little sleepover at her

house.

>> It was cool.

>> Wait, tell us say more about that. What

do you mean before you started shooting

you did?

>> No, it was like after a night shoot

after the night after a night shoot we

went there we had little cocktails at

like 6:00 in the morning.

>> [laughter]

>> And then stayed over in her little

cottage and then the next day we got to

go in the hot tub. We raided her fridge

and ate all her food. She had to go to

work. She left us in the house and then

we just like ate and sat on the sofa

watched like YouTube. It was nice.

>> [laughter]

>> It was so nice. It was I mean she's just

the best. She's such a nurturing spirit.

She's like she's one of those people who

you know, she says that she'll always be

there for you and she's like really

means it. Like she'll answer the call

anytime any day.

Um I've texted her in distress before

being like I need your advice on

something and she's like calling now.

And so and that's just such a she's such

a

she's such a

like a girls girl and also just like I

don't know. She's just I'm so amazed by

her and her and everything she's been

through and she handles herself with so

much grace and elegance and I just and

she's she's just so hot, too.

>> I know. She's so hot.

>> She's so hot.

>> It's It's a lot like it's a lot It's

hard to ask somebody like

"Why are you so hot?"

>> I think you have to.

>> That'll be my first question.

>> "Why are you so hot?"

>> "Why are you so hot?"

No, but she has this thing I mean we've

been like you know we get ready for our

guests and we're like reviewing their

body of work and her body of work is so

diverse. It's incredible. She has been

in a space movie that has made gazillion

dollars. She has done like really deep

intense drama. She's done horror. She's

done

incredible physical comedy. She's been

done hugely successful romantic

comedies. She's done She can do it all.

How does she like to work and what was

it like working with her in this film?

>> I mean I I love watching her. She she's

always like tinker like especially if

it's like a physical comedy scene like

she's really building it. She'll get to

set early like

she'll rehearse on her own. She'll like

block with supporting artists and like

she'll build it and build it and build

it and each take she like add something

more but it's like she's constantly

finessing one idea and it's like so

amazing to watch and it's like really

nice to watch someone doing something

that seems so off the cuff and so

natural but they're like

and they've thought about it a lot and

they know what props they want to have

and they and like I just I liked to see

that on set. Like it was a peek behind

the curtain because everything she does

is so funny and it seems so natural and

seems just so in the moment but like it

takes a lot of work for her to do

something that she's like really happy

with and we got to watch that time and

time and time again on this movie.

>> She's also just a really great uh

generous actor, too. Like, there was

just some stuff where we had where it

was like really emotional for either me

or Nicole, and like the way that she

would

support us when it was like our turn to

have like a like a really tough moment

or a big moment was so

just beautiful, and it's like inspiring,

and and so special because she she takes

her job so seriously, and she also

takes making sure others experience a

good job, too, so seriously.

>> I ask, um, the, um, the people that I

get like have the pleasure to zoom with

um, if they have a question for my

guest, and, um, I was curious if you

think there's anything I should ask her

today on your behalf.

>> I think she's got such like there's also

such a lack of vanity to the way that

she approaches physical comedy.

Um, and I think it's really like I I get

very self-conscious on set, and I know

that there are times in her life where

she feels self-conscious, but it's never

in front of the camera. It always seems

like it's never in front of the camera.

And I just

like has that always been just

instinctive, or is that something that

she's like

crafted? Like, if she's feeling

self-conscious, how does she get out of

it? Like, I just like really

I really want to know how she battles

that.

>> [laughter]

>> I love that question, Maisie. I think

that's such a good question.

>> Okay, and what's yours, Joey?

>> My question for Sandra is I want to know

when the last time she just quietly

thought to herself

does it get any better than this?

Like, what's the last moment she had

that was so does it get any better than

this?

>> Aw, that's such a beautiful question,

and it's going to also,

um,

help her

get back to that moment. That's what

That's a really generous question.

>> I'm excited to watch the episode cuz I'm

excited to like see where she goes

mentally with where it where it where

she where she arrives. I think that'll

be special.

>> Oh, that's a great question. You guys

are so smart and talented.

And the future, you're the future. So,

we're in really good hands.

>> And I've always said that.

>> [laughter]

>> And we all know that the future looks

incredible and there's nothing to worry

about.

>> Yeah, literally it's perfect.

>> [laughter]

>> She is perfect in our hands. Come on.

>> Well, thank you so much for your time. I

know she'll be thrilled that I talked to

you both and I bet she's got the warmest

things to say right back to you. So, um

thank you guys so much for doing this.

>> Oh, we love you, Amy. Thank you for

having us.

>> Thank you so much for having us.

>> Thank you so much. Such a pleasure to

meet you both. Hope to get you in the

stewed.

>> Yes.

>> We love love.

>> Great. Me, too. Okay. Bye.

>> Bye.

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>> Sandra Bullock is here. We looked at the

fake food.

>> did.

>> I'm very, very excited. Thank you for

buying. I know you're in the middle of a

lot of talking.

>> I am I am super excited because I I'm

I'm excited to be in the company of your

brain. Truly.

>> Same. And your sweater says shenanigans.

>> It's from the film. It's something Aunt

Jet says.

>> And let's start there.

>> Okay.

>> Because [laughter]

when I was thinking about how to start

this interview, which I've been very

excited for,

we were just talking about the fact that

you really can do so many things well.

And how tiring it must be to be good at

so many things.

>> You know it is.

>> [laughter]

>> You're like you're you're physical

comedian, you're an incredibly

successful producer, you can do really

deep meaningful things big and small,

you've been in huge hits, you've been in

small

>> stinkers, huge [laughter] hits and then

some that have failed.

>> huge hits you've been in things people

don't choose to see.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> And you've withstood that.

>> Yes.

>> Um [laughter]

>> Did I?

>> But you are to me, you have what Lucille

Ball has, you have what Carol Burnett

has, you have like a physicality, you

have timing. What did you guys laugh at

in your family when you were little?

Because you have you have really

interesting creative parents.

>> interesting parents. Had, they're dead.

Yes. So they're up here.

>> Yes.

>> Um

My mother was German.

>> Right.

>> So right What is she laughing at?

>> Not funny.

>> [laughter]

>> Really did not have a sense of humor.

Which

actually makes you want to challenge

that on a daily basis. My father was

from Birmingham, Alabama.

English, Irish, French, you know, like

storyteller from the South.

So he had a rhythm of his own.

But I really think I got it from trying

to break my mother.

>> [laughter]

>> Make her laugh.

>> to break me. Yeah, by making her laugh

and it was always when And hurt myself,

when I fell.

>> [laughter]

>> So which kind of goes hand in hand with

the Germans.

>> She would laugh hard when you fell.

>> laugh so hard and I went My mother

didn't laugh a lot. So, to get joy out

of her

>> Yeah.

>> was everything. My dad I had I had in

the pocket, but my mother really was

someone that I knew wanted to laugh and

needed it, but

when I finally found it,

it was like it was my little ace in in

the pocket. It she she

she was a tough audience.

>> Was there any American stuff that she

laughed at that she liked when you were

younger? Do you remember her laughing at

anything or any liking any pop culture

American TV?

>> really have a lot of TV in the house.

Like we didn't have magazines when

I I lived overseas, we watched foreign

films and you know, I would always

gravitate to the ones that had a

physicality cuz you could understand it.

Um

but no, my mother was an artist. She was

an opera singer and it was a very

serious.

>> I'm in I'm incredibly intrigued by this.

>> She was extraordinary. And I notice that

now more than ever being a mom and

seeing

her practice her craft, which was

incredibly annoying to me.

>> Yeah, of course.

>> annoying. It was loud.

>> Yeah.

>> And it was in the basement of our house.

And it would permeate the whole

neighborhood as we're playing like

kickball outside, you hear her

vocalizing and you're just like

>> You have very good posture.

>> I'm trying.

>> Did she Did she have really good

posture?

>> Yes. Yeah.

>> And she breath control and all that

stuff.

>> All of it from the diaphragm. She was

She was So, she was

she practiced the high art. So did my

father.

>> Yeah.

>> But he just had that southern thing that

was more relaxed, but also to control

the room and put the room at ease. She

had no desire to put the room at

[laughter] ease. Incredible.

>> None whatsoever.

>> I'm always fascinated by the people that

can stay quiet and that don't feel the

need to change the temperature in the

room. It's fascinating to me.

It's like a such a power move.

>> It is It's that you bring that up

because today I had that very

conversation with my sister.

I was like I am so tired of hearing

myself talk.

>> Oh babe.

>> She goes I

I'm like and it's also the press junket.

I feel like I'm here to just share and

do whatever but she says you know it's

also your undiagnosed ADHD and your

trauma response. I went

>> [laughter]

>> Okay.

>> You're like wow you've read for filth.

Thank you so much.

But if this ever happen to you where

you're on a conference call and you're

accidentally on mute and you you're

talking but you're on mute and then you

get off mute and you realize like I've

actually just been the most powerful

I've ever been by not talking by pausing

for more than 10 seconds but I never do

that. I have to work at it. Okay we were

talking about we were talking about your

German mom but we're talking about

opera.

I

your relationship to music is really

interesting to me. I've learned that

about knowing you. Not only like you

know as a producer you're picking music

for the projects you make. There's

really good needle drops that are in

films that you make because of you but

you sang opera.

>> No I did not.

>> YOU DIDN'T? [laughter]

ARE YOU A SINGER?

>> NOT even close.

>> Okay are you a singer?

>> No I'm not one of those who says oh I

can't sing and then I'll be in like in

the car and I'll belt something out and

they're like you've got a great voice.

>> Okay you know you don't have a good

voice.

>> I should not be singing.

But what I have is great rhythm.

>> Yeah. I see that.

>> Timing.

>> Timing. So but you sang with your

parents. Were you not in operas?

>> Yes I was in operas. I was in I was in

the background. There's always like some

filthy child stealing money and coins

off the floor. That was me.

That was me. [laughter]

>> And so do you feel Did your mom want you

to be a singer? Did she ever want you

No. She knew.

>> Look there [laughter] could only be

she knew.

There was only one her.

>> Mhm.

>> And she was

she was of the highest order of of

talent. She just she the one. I was the

jokester. I found my way to sort of

level the vibe anywhere was through

that. So, she knew of course at some

point I would be that. I was in theater

and I did things like that. I didn't

even attempt to sing.

>> I am going to my first opera very soon.

I've never been. Which one are you going

to? Um George Saunders. They're doing an

opera based on his book Lincoln in the

Bardo at the Met.

>> Really?

>> And I'm thrilled, but my question for

you is what like what it what should I

prepare for?

Cuz have you I'm assuming you've been to

many.

>> Yes, and it's amazing how no matter what

the language when it's good you

understand it all.

>> Mhm.

>> And it's it's the profundity of the

performances and the set deck and the

it's grand. It's always grand. Um

and I remember as a kid I would be in

the back of the car and my mother would

always test me like she would play

something. She goes, "What does that

make you feel?" And I would I would lean

in and I would say, "This feels like

someone's losing someone or they're

they're looking for someone who's dead."

You know, like you you could feel it

when it's good. Um when it's bad it's

bad.

>> Yeah.

>> Um I think you're at the Met you're

probably going to be just fine and it's

going to be amazing. [laughter]

I think you're going to be okay.

>> What a cool thing for your mom to do to

test you on what are you feeling when

you hear this?

>> I mean we would go to Italy for the

operas just sit on the stone steps and

with our little ice cream and just watch

the animals come on stage and the you

know, it was it was it was just

beautiful. It was really beautiful.

>> And speaking of German, what can you

tell me your favorite German word and

I'm going to try to guess what it means.

>> it's um Muschelkopf.

>> Say again, please.

>> [laughter]

>> Muschelkopf.

>> Muschelkopf.

I'm going to say that is um the feeling

that you get

>> [laughter]

>> when you're about to

>> an argument.

>> You're very close because [laughter] the

word would probably be used in the

argument is you right before the mic

drop moment.

>> [gasps]

>> Oh my god, chills.

>> Yeah.

>> I speak German now.

>> And

do you want to know what it means?

>> Oh yeah, what does it mean? [laughter]

Sorry.

>> It means

It's what my mother would teach all the

boyfriends are like, "Would you like me

to teach you some German?" And they were

like, "Yes, Miss Bullock, I really

would." And then she'd give them, you

know,

and this

>> [laughter]

>> So she maybe she did have a tiny sense

of humor.

>> sound pretty funny.

>> Lilia does sound pretty funny.

>> pretty great. She sounds like a

trickster.

>> She You know what? She is. She just

didn't know it at the time.

>> Yeah.

>> [laughter]

>> It It came to her later on.

>> Well, I mean, I everybody needs a

straight man and it feels like your mom

provided that.

>> Yeah.

>> Um the you know, there's a million

journeys to get to being on screen and

like, you know, you you're performing,

you're acting, you move to New York, you

study at Meisner,

>> Well, I I studied in college. The

teacher that came to the

>> What college were you at then?

>> East Carolina University only because my

best friend in high school had an

application. My dad really wanted me to

go to a school of the arts, the top 10.

>> Mhm.

>> I was not getting into any of them. I

auditioned for one. It's very

unfortunate.

>> [laughter]

>> Do you remember what you auditioned

with?

>> I don't recall. It's that dramatic.

>> I remember the smell of the room.

>> [laughter]

>> The smell of fear.

>> I remember the flop sweat and

>> Oh, it was It was this austere white

room. I was like, "I'm not supposed to

be here. I'm not I wasn't" I was pretty

oddly shy as a kid because we traveled

back and forth and I had a lisp.

And my lisp still kind of comes out when

I'm like on this press tour, my lisps

come out.

>> When you're tired or talking to your

family or something.

>> And I didn't really notice I had one

until a few years ago. I was working my

coaster. I was like, "You have a lisp."

And I was like,

>> [laughter]

>> And you were like, "Stop paying

attention."

>> it. Stop Why are you looking at my

mouth?

>> Yeah, good. Worry about yourself.

[laughter]

>> But I I didn't have I wasn't baked. I

wasn't mature enough. I I very

sheltered. So I could never have

made it in any of those environments. I

did not have the confidence. So,

>> Did you like studying all like that

Meisner Meisner technique?

>> Very much.

>> So, for people who don't know what

Meisner technique is, it's kind of cool.

What What How would you explain it?

>> Premise is being truthful in imaginary

circumstances. Going, "So, I I wasn't

comfortable when they would say, 'Lay on

the floor and you're going to fry like

bacon.'" And I was like, "I'll never be

cast as that. This will never It felt

artificial to me. It didn't But Meisner,

they give you a piece um started off

with, you know, this these soliloquies

in in a book.

You had to go and do an emotional

preparation as if going, "Okay, this

never happened to you." But prepare as

closely as you can to the emotion and

the feeling

of getting to this. What would make you

feel like this?

>> Mhm.

>> And it gave you a tool outside of

um yourself that made sense At least for

me, made sense to hang on. And also

listening.

>> Yeah.

>> Which

we're probably not very good at because

we like we like to, you know,

>> You know what? I'm good at

>> You are?

>> And so are you. I've seen it. Active

listening, you're very good at it. And I

am too.

>> learned. It's It's It's not always Not

always.

>> But can't you tell

very quickly when you're with someone

who's not listening? And there's like

there's no lonelier feeling

>> when you can tell when you're talking

and you can tell that someone's dead

behind the eyes.

>> It kind of makes me sad. [laughter]

>> It makes me sad, too.

>> It makes me really sad.

>> And I Maybe it's co- Maybe it's a little

codependency. Maybe it's like a little

bit of making sure I'm staying

connected, but I I I think I I think you

can still be a good listener while

you're talking.

>> Yes.

>> Or while If you're If you consider

yourself a talker.

>> Yes. And if you've done enough therapy,

too, you've learned that, you know, it

it

requires you to just stop.

>> Yeah.

>> And that all of that. It's It's all of

that together in a pile. And I got very

lucky that this teacher came in to teach

the Meisner technique. And

it was always the girls in class who

could cry on the spot. And I'm like,

"Oh, they're such brilliant actors. She

can cry, you know?" Never could get

there.

>> No. Tears.

>> No. I can't. Unless I feel it. What? You

don't like the tears?

>> I I have a whole thing about tears.

>> Explain.

>> Well, I think that tears, to your point,

are very effective.

But people just like being flexible.

People can sometimes are just good at

tears.

Like they were just born being good at

tears.

>> And keeping them like perched right

there and then it just When I cry, it's

the square mouth. It's like things tilt.

It implodes and it's there's nothing

cinematic about it.

>> that Elizabeth Moss, I don't know if

this is true. Elizabeth, write in. Call

in.

That she can pick what eye she's going

to cry out of.

>> Stop.

>> That's what I heard.

Isn't that an Isn't that an incredible

rumor? Lizzie, call us.

Lizzie, call us. Because she's so good

at crying. The people that are able to

go kink, blink, and drop a tear.

>> I'm I'm sort of like I'm I'm a little

FOMO like right now. I wish I had

>> But I think it's like being able to

touch your toes or something. Like you

either have it or you don't.

>> I can do that. But no one wants to see

it on me.

>> Not all of us can, Sandy.

>> Well, have you been practicing? It

requires

>> I know.

>> Practice.

>> I tried to touch my toes with John Cena

when he was in here and he was and

>> [laughter]

>> That's not a euphemism.

How dare you? And

he touched his toes so well. Palms to

the floor.

>> see that.

>> Are you that flexible?

Can you do that? Damn it.

>> You know what I can do?

>> I I practice.

I practice. [sighs and gasps]

>> Okay. So

>> Speed. Okay. So then [laughter] you had

to

Then you had to strip for speed.

>> No. Um where I had to be flexible.

>> Yeah. You probably did have to be

flexible on speed.

Uh you've talked about this before, but

I'm really those early days of like

walking in a rooms, trying things you

like you were saying not being fully

cooked, but feeling excited about stuff,

knowing that you had the passion, but

maybe not the experience yet but going

for it. Those swings feels like really

paid off with speed. You were able to

like meet the moment of that movie with

the enthusiasm that that character

needed and that audition process I read

about it read about it and read about

you talking about it but it sounds

really funny and fun.

>> It's

in in in retrospect.

>> Right but what was it like?

>> again like the audition for the school I

didn't get into. There's a lot of

singing

and just you're outside of your body and

I think from New York I was I was a

waitress every Thursday I got the

backstage magazine. I pounded the

pavement and went to your little

auditions with your your headshot and

you just you just had to do it so I was

comfortable just doing it.

>> Yeah.

>> Um

>> Did you have to pretend you were on a

bus when you were auditioning?

>> I was on a folding chair and they gave

me a paper plate.

>> [laughter]

>> I think I have to say you know I we talk

about acting a lot on this cuz I talk to

a lot of actors. I think everybody

should have to do that once to feel like

you know you think in life like I've

felt what it's like to be humiliated and

you're like

no you're not.

>> And then they bring in Keanu Reeves like

when they're in the callback and you're

like am I still on the chair with paper

plate? Yes. Still plate? Okay. Okay.

>> [laughter]

>> Dissociate and driving.

>> Did you do the little fashion roll

[laughter] down?

>> roll down the window?

And then back to cuz the bus has all

these levers here and the

the hydraulics there's all kinds of

stuff going on that I was like you know

yeah so

>> Checking the glove compartment

>> There's no glove compartment on a bus.

>> [laughter]

>> I mean I don't know is there?

>> Maybe there's an air freshener. There's

a million things you can do.

>> Not in this bus. Like yes you did air

freshener.

>> Um that movie is so huge it's huge for

you you and Keanu lifelong friends you

create this incredible chemistry

together.

>> We didn't create it it just

shows up.

>> It shows up, you're right. And you have

chemistry with so you are really, really

good.

>> a skunk. I kind of just spray it.

>> [laughter]

>> I feel like

>> spray it. And whoever's in the line OF

FIRE

>> WHATEVER DOGS ARE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD

>> GETS LIKE START coming in.

>> [laughter]

>> That's what people don't realize. You

have to like

>> I agree. You got to you got to turn the

channel. You got to But what what but

Talk about chemistry for a second cuz

people love to talk about it. But what

like what what what what was it about

you and Keanu that like immediately you

just felt

>> I think with us we're so different.

>> Mhm.

>> We're so He is very

reserved and zen.

>> Mhm.

>> And as we were saying earlier

give us a silent room and you can watch

us spin out. So anytime he's silent, I'm

like the whirling dervish around his

silence. And he's just waiting for me to

wear myself out. He's just patiently

waiting. And then he often doesn't

respond to what I say, you know, and

then until like maybe a day later when

he's thought about it. So

>> Mhm.

>> It's it's someone to learn from in terms

of what you and I need to work on.

>> Yeah, the tortoise and the hare kind of

thing. Yeah. But you've worked with

really, really

different leading men.

>> And they all have

they they

are good at playing.

>> Yeah.

>> They're just like they're there to

volley back. And I think because I am

not the femme fatale. I am I am the the

tomboy. I am the one that they'll get in

there with the guys and you know I think

that's why it works for me because I

love being poked. I love being you know,

just be the needle and just trying to

get at me because that's a spark for me

rather than

the real sweet stuff which I just goes

uninteresting to me. It's goes back to

timing and women who have that and I'm

just I can watch you all day long. But

your respect and support of

your opponent cuz it is like a match.

>> It is. And it's a little bit a tiny bit

competitive in a fun way.

>> In a fun way, but it's also I see you

have so much respect for the person

opposite you. I feel it. I feel it in

you. You wait. Like even in the bloopers

and the outtakes, I see you giving the

person grace enough and you're like, "Am

I going to step in on this one? I don't

want to step in on this one." I see it

and it's a rhythm that just it you feel

it here. I feel it here.

>> And don't you feel it? I feel like

people have music. Like they just have a

rhythm and they figure out how to make

it work cuz you have to just kind of get

into their song. It's like

and then I think the reason why people

like actors or performers or writers or

whatever is they just like like their

music. They like their song.

>> Yeah. It's like when someone says you

have good taste that means you have the

taste that I have. Like [laughter] you

know what I mean? It's like you have

nice taste. This is what I would do. You

know, it's

>> Yeah, that's so true. Gravity.

I want to ask you questions about

Gravity. I mean, well you

>> I love talking about

>> Oh my god. I have I have so many

questions.

>> Ask away because I don't think it it

yeah. Go ahead.

>> Well, you were

Before we get to Gravity, you know, you

won for The Blind Side Oscar. You've

been nominated many times. How many

times

>> No, I've been nominated I've nominated

twice. And won once.

>> Okay, well that's more than once.

>> I've been It's like a 50 50 I have 50%

right?

>> 50% okay.

Several. You've been nominated several

times.

>> [laughter]

>> And you won an Oscar and a Razzie in the

same weekend. Incredible.

>> Balance.

>> Incredible. Of course.

>> And they came and took the Razzie back

cuz I went home with it and they were

like, "You can't have this." And I'm

like, "Yes,

I can."

>> [laughter]

>> And they were like, "We only have one."

We had Dakota Johnson on here. Dakota

Johnson told a really nice story about a

voicemail that she got from you.

>> She's one of the she's one of us.

>> What did she What did you do when she

won her Razzie?

>> Called her and welcomed her to the club.

>> [laughter]

>> What did you win your Razzie for?

>> Um All About Steve, a film I did with

Bradley Cooper and we yeah.

>> And we never heard from him again.

>> Yes, he did. Exactly. JUST HE JUST YEAH.

>> [laughter]

[applause]

>> BUT A MOVIE LIKE GRAVITY, I'm just going

to put it out there, is a really big,

deep, lots of It is you by yourself,

camera on your face movie.

>> Mhm.

>> So, what was it like to shoot mostly and

often by yourself?

>> What did it feel like?

>> Um there was so much technology and like

in in in within the box that I was

literally within the box if I wasn't on

the wires um and if I wasn't with

George.

Um

it was music.

It was the only relationship I had was

to our sound mixer.

And Alfonso because the whole stage was

black and and so I had ear wigs in um

and so I said to the the sound guy, I

said, "Look, there are these cuz it was

all rhythmic. I my body had to be very

slow like Martha Graham and I kept

looking at a dance teacher that I had at

ECU who came from um Alvin Ailey.

And

taught me how to not throw my body

around. He goes, "You got to stop

throwing your body around." As he'd

throw me up against the wall and I'd be

like, "Me, I'm coming back." Um but I

learned how to disconnect the head from

the body cuz the head could speak at

normal speed and the body had to move

like that, you know, everything had to

be what it would be in Gravity. As I was

looking at a dot, that's George, that's

a Soyuz, that's

and the sound

mixer had we chose selections of sounds

and music and songs and vibes that

I like you said, you start vibing with a

project. I was like, "This song reminds

me of this right here. This makes me

feel this moment." You know, what makes

me feel in absolute silence? What you

know, what So, I would say, "I'm not

getting there." I'd play two, seven, and

five and then I'll get to and he just

was my life mixer. He would mix it

and just get me to

>> music that you'd be willing to share

that you listen to that

>> even remember, but I just remember at

the end he gave me this tiny little

you know

what's it called? Like you know

a tiny little thing with like a hole

where you plug in, you know, and he just

handed it to me and I was like that's my

performance.

>> Wow, that's so cool.

>> So it tapped into my body cuz my body

had to do these strange zero-G things.

>> faking the whole time?

>> faking like everything. George and I

were in the the pod and Alfonso was

giving us notes and

he said does anyone want a water? And I

said I do and they handed it to me and I

grabbed it and George goes you know what

you just did, didn't you? I said no, I

have no idea. He goes you were like

this.

Everything was very slow and I was kept

talking to Alfonso and I grabbed the

water, but my body was so used to having

>> That must have somatically been really

cool. Like it must have been peaceful.

>> was very peaceful.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, it was a humongous hit. Congrats.

>> Didn't do bad. Yeah.

>> And you had just adopted your son,

right?

>> yes. Lubert. We called him Lubert T.

Jones. That was his name on the cuz he

was just I I dressed him in these cute

little English vests and he had these

little hats and stuff.

>> [laughter]

>> He was so cute.

>> I mean he's still cute, but that was

super cute.

>> Yeah.

>> Um it was just it was an amazing

experience because for Alfonso and his

son and they wrote it together, it was

about his sort of

feeling lost and having an existential

moment in life of despair. And how do

you show that

in space? You go to space.

>> It was it's such an incredible movie.

Beautiful movie and your performance is

incredible.

>> Thank you.

>> And George, too. And like

>> it's it's all just

exactly where it needs to be.

>> Yeah, it and and

it it like space films about space I

kind I'll kind of watch anytime, but the

feeling of like I don't want to go to

space I guess is what I'm saying.

>> nor do I.

>> Okay, good. Let's not go.

>> Yeah.

>> And what was it like working with

Cloones?

>> You know what? I've known Cloones since

before he got um

>> Is that how he like what he likes to be

called?

>> Señor Clooney.

He like he prefers.

I'm all I'm all calls him that now.

>> He insists.

>> Señor.

>> [laughter]

>> Um

>> When did you guys first work together?

We We We'd only worked together then,

but it's we first met when he was, you

know, on back porches of all their

friends drunk doing Buddy Hackett

imitations. And I like this is before um

What was that the show he did where he

was a doctor, you know, ER that thing.

>> Yeah, it's before he got that.

>> ER.

>> The other ER, but it's where he was

doing all the pilots He was like George

of the Pilots before he became

>> Wait, did you just say what is the show

where he was the doctor?

>> you know, the doctor show.

>> My god, ER.

>> I know. I I said ER. You You have it on

there.

>> I've watched ER three times. You know,

I've watched the entirety of ER three

times.

>> The last time was during COVID.

>> Well, it's worth it. Everyone is Stella.

>> [laughter]

>> It's so good.

>> yeah, they're just it's yeah. Okay,

sorry.

>> is a player. He will play and he will

bat things back and forth and he is

He's fun. George is fun.

>> Mhm. You guys were great together.

>> Yeah.

>> Really great together.

>> We're good in space together. I don't

know how we'll do on land, but on space

we're amazing.

>> In space you're

>> In space we're great.

>> [laughter]

[gasps]

>> There's no one out there that can

compete with us. We're like I will

>> only work with him in space and this in

this one I'll only work with underwater.

>> Exactly.

>> But now we're talking about Practical

Magic, which you're doing tons of press

for. First of all, and I just love I

mean I I know it's weird to talk about

the press people are doing, but just

watching you and Nicole talk is so nice

and relaxing. You guys are such

opposites in the best way. Nicole is

just kind of on a different channel and

in her and like in a in really

>> She's regal.

>> She is.

>> She's regal.

>> And she's also very playful. And so are

you, but you play totally differently.

>> Differently. And to see her play is

really nice cuz you You get to see that

a lot.

>> You know, she's on

>> this one cuz uh the what I had to carry

wasn't really sexy for a comedian

because I was like I'm grieving.

>> Yeah.

>> I'm having issues with my daughter.

>> Right.

>> I'm battling with fear and all that

stuff. And then she got the fun role.

>> [laughter]

>> And I was like

where can I find moments that are

appropriate within these dire

situations? And we kept with the writer

writing these fun lines for Nicole and

she she didn't want to do like she was

like, "I don't this I don't want to be

the comedic sidekick." I'm like, "Yes,

you do."

>> Yes, you do.

>> I

promise. Promise. And she just took to

it. Like she found her She found her

rhythm.

>> Yeah.

>> And she's really good at it.

>> Yeah. I mean, the friendship you guys

have is really cool to watch. I mean,

it's very authentic. You I'm I'm

I know that female friendships are very,

very important to you. They've I would

imagine in many times

>> are to you.

>> Absolutely. What have the women in your

life done and the friendships in your

life done for you?

>> Ev-

everything. It's It's like it it I don't

think I can quantify it because it

changes with the seasons. It changes

with our changes. It changes with where

we are and where we not. Um and it

you know what they they give me a

tremendous amount of grace.

>> Mhm.

>> Um they judge. Like my sister be like,

"She's doing that thing again." You

like, but my sister will sit there and

allow that thing to pass because she

knows my history. She knows where it's

coming from.

>> Mhm.

>> But even though she wants to kill me

>> Mhm.

>> she's she's she's going to wait it out.

>> Yeah, that's what I always say about

friends is they know you really well and

they like you anyway.

>> Mhm. Oh, yes.

>> You know? It's like they really, really

know you and yet they still take your

call.

>> Yeah. And hopefully I mean, it's really

important for me to be a good friend.

>> What's your conflict style? Do you Are

you a

retreater?

>> I'm a mix I'm a mix but I'm a little

sprinkle of But it also depends on who

I'm opposite, what their style is. You

know, I know every that's sort of the

the vernacular right now is like, "I'm

an avoidant." You know, whatever. I I am

probably a little bit of everything

depending on who I'm opposite

>> Mhm.

>> and how safe I feel.

>> Yeah.

>> Because in what we do

>> Yeah.

>> unless it's very close relationships,

you don't know who's coming to you

with safety and giving you a safe place.

>> Mhm.

>> So, it just depends. Um but I can read

people really well.

>> And I don't always heed my own warning

until like three beats later I'm like I

knew it. But you know, I'm like I want

to give them a shot. I want to you know,

like whatever they're coming at me.

Maybe it's this. Maybe they're having a

hard day. And then three beats later I'm

like it's what I thought it was.

>> Yes.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah, that instinct of feeling something

and listening to it and responding to

it. Like that to me is like a lifetime

of work. Basically, it's like our entire

life is to figure out like how to

shorten the distance between what we

sense

>> Mhm.

>> and what we

act on or something.

>> you don't you think that's also

being a woman?

>> Yes.

>> have we have a more sensitive meter, I

feel.

>> Of course.

>> We're also conditioned in this you know,

social universe that

>> Yes.

>> we are not to

trust that.

>> Well, we become experts in other people

>> Mhm.

>> and we become a really, really aware of

how people are acting and changing

and to your point, we want we like we're

conditioned to give a lot of grace.

>> Mhm.

>> Like that's why like someone like your

mom who's like I'm going to be an island

and you're going to have to come to me

is still really fascinating to find in a

woman.

>> Mhm.

>> Because it's still just like wow. She's

not saying anything and she's not

pleasing anybody.

>> Mhm.

>> And she really does not care that people

are projecting all the stuff on her.

It's fascinating.

>> Yeah, I mean the way you're saying that

I'm going I'm getting to know my mom.

You know, like I feel like I am getting

to know my mom

as I become more of a mom.

>> Mhm.

>> even each day I'm like oh, I see why she

said that. I see why

>> I mean Practical Magic has a lot of

those themes. like beautiful themes

about like you talked about history,

trauma, pain, the idea of protecting the

people that you love, the idea of like

what is a like what is a mother's burden

and blessing, what does she get to do,

what does she have to do? It's so great.

And you're playing a witch 30 years

later almost from when you played it

before, and I'm so interested in this

idea in general that as women get older

like there's something that gets very

witchy about us.

>> We've always had it.

It is it's the lag time, those three

beats become one beat.

>> Right.

>> You no longer you know, like you're no

longer waiting or second guessing

yourself. You go, it just is.

>> Yeah.

>> You cuz you've had enough instances in

life to prove you correct

>> Yeah.

>> when you had that feeling. It's called

mother's intuition for a really good

reason, women's intuition. Like it's

we are extra sensitive to

things, and it's it's a both a blessing

and a curse, but I think as you get

older

you just don't want to waste time

anymore, you know? At least I don't.

>> The way you speak about

the losses that you've had in your life

makes people feel very seen and you're

very generous about it. And it in many

ways reminds me of this idea of like the

witchiness that happens to us when we

get older.

That we're coming in with some pain and

some hopefully some lessons or knowledge

from it or whatever just and

I really appreciate it as a person

listening to you share because

I don't know, I can't explain it other

than I feel safe in the way that you

share cuz I feel like you're taking care

of yourself, which is a big relief for

me if that makes any sense.

>> It does, and I I want to take care of

you. I want to take care of you're

making me teary, you guys stop. Um

I really want to take care of people's

souls like or whatever whoever their

person is. I never want to be known as

someone who violated someone's

confidence. That someone

>> Mhm.

>> um

gave me a piece of themselves and I was

I was careless with it.

>> Yeah.

>> And I think sure, younger age, I was a

dingbat, but because of the things that

I've been able to see and feel and

experience and get behind the curtain

on,

um

I feel like it's a secret that I don't

want to share from those who deserve to

um benefit from my experience.

>> Well, you've spoken beautifully about

being a caretaker to Brian and there's a

lot of caretakers listening.

>> The caretaker world is absolutely

underserved. I I'm been very private

since I was a little kid cuz my mother

always thought I was up to something

that I wasn't. You know, I really I'm

like, why am I getting blamed for things

I didn't do? I just I'm a guilty I I

just look guilty, you know? But I

[laughter] don't want to ever ever ever

not be Oh, god, how do I describe this?

I don't

I did what I had to do in the situation

I was in. I didn't say anything out of

turn on what anyone else experienced

within that situation cuz everyone is

experiencing something, their own

journey with that.

Um there's so much to the story

that would be of service,

but my story, my slice of pie and me and

the kids,

you know, it that's all we can speak

about.

>> Yeah.

>> You know what I mean? I'd love to say,

but you know, it it serves no purpose

other than

I have the information. I've met so many

people whose whose family members have

been diagnosed with ALS or a

neurological disorder. I'm like,

this is what I know.

>> What did you learn about yourself when

you became a caretaker? What did you

What was a new thing that you learned

about you?

>> always a caretaker.

>> Yeah.

>> Always.

>> Right.

>> And I learned that I don't I didn't take

care of the person that was taking care

of everybody else. And that was a big

wake-up call for me.

>> Yeah.

>> Um

and

I'm not good at asking for help.

>> Mhm.

>> But I needed help and I needed to ask it

in a way that was safe.

>> Mhm.

>> Um thankfully I had a few angels that

stepped forward and was like, "This is

where the nurses are. This is where the

you know um what did I learn about

myself?" Um that I have an incredible

sister.

>> Mhm.

>> And she

she

in her worry for me

>> Mhm.

>> gave me a like an alarm of going, "If

you do not start taking care of you,

something's going to happen to you and

what's going to happen to Luann Lee?"

And I was like you know I

>> Yeah.

>> And that to me that's you know I learned

about myself I have an extraordinary

sister. You know that's the only thing

that I know. I'm still developing. I

mean coming into a press tour I was

looking at um

>> [snorts]

>> the photos of the the London premiere

and I'm like, "I'm not a red carpet

gal."

>> Are you out of your mind?

>> Okay, let me I'm just going to let me

just

>> Sorry.

>> Can I okay. [laughter] I'm going to have

>> Absolutely not. That's our first fight.

You look better than ever.

>> Let me know when you're done.

>> Your red carpet is slaying.

>> Let me know when you're done.

>> Okay, I'm done.

I agree with you the outfits slay.

>> the outfits.

>> incredible stylists that worked on this

that made me feel comfortable in my

body. From the neck down I was I was so

taken care of.

>> Mhm.

>> The person on the inside like I said to

every I would start panicking as we

would get ready to leave and I said "You

guys are working on the outside and I'm

sitting in my body. I have no idea what

you guys are doing."

>> Yeah.

>> And I was just like and then I got on

the red carpet and I was like, "Okay,

I've got this. I'm I'm going to pretend

I which hand should I put here?"

>> [laughter]

>> I'm working it like I'm not someone

who's like, "What's up?"

>> Totally.

>> I mean I'm not one of those. Like it's

like

>> I just had this it's the finger people.

>> The finger

>> I this experience. I just did a photo

shoot and I was like I gave myself I

gave I give a pep talk. I'm like, "Amy,

you get in there and you be the person

>> fingers in your mouth and your fingers.

>> You Did you really say that?

>> I was like, just be into it.

>> Yeah.

>> I can't it's so hard for me. I can't

just be like

be like I'm very very sexy right now. I

can't

>> [laughter]

>> And you just have to be a little of

like, who me?

>> Who more?

You have to be like, I'm just in the

middle of something and

>> there's two fingers. Like when someone

shoves two fingers in their mouth in a

photo shoot, bad ass. I'm like, girl

I wish I would have the whole fist in

there if I could.

>> [laughter]

>> Okay, I understand. I hear you mean

>> So so here

and so they

>> So Warner Brothers cuz we need you to

like approve some of these shots so we

can get them on social and I'm great cuz

I by the end I was like, I did it. I did

a really good job, you know. I loved

everything from here to

and then I went

>> What's your face doing?

>> [laughter]

>> Is it just your are your eyes just like

>> I was like, why do I have stink face?

>> [laughter]

>> Cuz you were like

>> I'm like, no.

>> WHAT WAS IT LIKE THAT?

OH, YOU LOOK LIKE

>> YOU WENT WITH A BIT OF A resting

face. Is that what you had?

>> Like I smelled something. It like you

I'm like, what happened? That's not what

I was feeling.

>> [laughter]

>> Because

>> It was because you're here?

>> You know why? Because you're funny.

>> Yeah. Yeah.

>> That's why you are

>> And then when you're funny on a red

carpet you get this.

>> Nightmare.

>> You get someone going, can you raise the

camera? It's like

it's it's a nightmare. We don't belong

on a red carpet.

>> No.

>> We don't.

>> No. But you do.

>> There should be a com No, [laughter]

there should be a comedy red carpet.

>> We're not the same.

>> I think we should advocate for a comedy

red carpet.

>> Unfortunately, that's every red carpet

I've ever done. Is a comedy red carpet.

>> help us out a little bit.

>> I've said this for I'm really I I'm

really relating cuz

I feel like I I try my best.

>> Yes.

>> I mean I try so hard and I get full hair

makeup for hours. AND I LOOK AT MYSELF

IN THE MIRROR AND I'M LIKE, ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. All right. And And in the car and

I get out there and I'm and I feel like

I'm posing like this.

>> Mhm. This is how I feel like I'm posing.

And I see the picture, and it's like

>> Yeah.

>> [laughter]

>> IT IS THE WORST

>> I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

>> when did I do that?

>> Yeah, when? When you were authentic.

>> But but you're not that's not the place

to be authentic.

>> [laughter]

>> You're right.

>> You can't be authentic. And we have to

stop. We have to just

>> I agree. [laughter]

Would stop doing what?

>> Talking, moving

>> We can't

>> You know, there's there's there's sort

of those who

>> Nicole is incredible.

>> She Well, Nicole is a goddess.

>> [laughter]

>> And she's just Can we just remove her

from anything that we're in? So like I'm

like, you do you. I would never want to

do the red carpet with Nicole.

>> First of all, I would look

>> Do you have empathy for me now? I mean,

at least you're at least you're 5'7.

>> 5'8.

>> Yeah, it's 5'7 3/4.

>> imagine I mean, I'm so Can you imagine

me standing next to Nicole? I would look

I I I I I'd just

>> All your shots would be like this.

>> [laughter]

>> I WOULD JUST BE I WOULD JUST be doing

some

>> Yeah.

>> some weird

>> Yeah. With your hands?

>> [laughter]

>> So it's not even like this. IT'S NOT

EVEN LIKE THIS. IT'S NOT EVEN like this.

It's not even like this.

>> falling out of my pocket, and I'd be

talking to her like this.

>> Yes. We all do it. We all do it. And she

is she is a goddess.

>> She is a goddess. Okay. Um Well, this

leads me to my

>> Stink face leads me to

>> And I bet By By the way, we all have

body dysmorphia. So I bet you look

incredible.

>> do. We all do.

>> I bet you look incredible. And I And I

bet I saw it. You did.

Um okay.

We talk We always on this podcast talk

to people who know our guest and give us

like we talk well behind their back.

Um [clears throat]

And um

>> Jesus.

>> And we talked to Maisie Williams.

>> already done?

>> We met Maisie.

>> No, we're not done. No, we're we're We

we have so much I have so many more

things on the on the on the paper. But

we usually do like about an hour an hour

10.

>> Okay.

>> Okay. And we're live. I'm just kidding.

[laughter]

Um we have been live the whole time.

>> Great.

>> [laughter]

>> Here, hold on.

Like these are all stuck.

>> It's like

>> It shouldn't be working.

>> [laughter]

>> Wait, yeah, we just put a little

>> Hey, you know what I like to do in the

red carpet? Just put a little black and

white cookie right under my neck.

>> We just we just think about

And then it just sits right here. It

doesn't work it.

>> And he just looks gorgeous.

>> Wouldn't it be great if there's like a

really great collar that you sort of had

and it made your jaw snatched and then

you had this taken care of it?

>> on the way out your publicist is like,

"Do you have your cookie?"

>> [laughter]

>> DON'T FORGET YOUR COOKIE.

AND OH MY COOKIE FOR my neck.

>> on.

>> Okay.

Um you look incredible. We all look

incredible. It's it um we all women are

beautiful. Every woman is beautiful.

>> Okay. Oh my god, I'm schvitzy.

>> Oh my god, me too. But um okay, here is

as I say we talked to Maisie and we

talked to Joey.

>> Oh. How extraordinary are those two?

>> They are the coolest

>> They're so cool and talented and

>> they are everything.

>> Tell me about working with them, what it

was like.

>> Um you know, it's it's a combination of

awe and intimidation because they are so

free.

>> Mhm.

>> I'm glad I had to play someone that was

tightly wound and had to be very

maternal and

dark and stiff, you know, like because

their freedom is intimidating.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Like we were having a um about just just

being a woman and flying the flag and

stuff like that and I said something

about fear. I said, "Yeah, but you know,

you've got This is amazing." I was, "Oh

no." And then she went off. She goes,

"Being a woman" she went off on always

not liking the word witch. I said, "I

don't like the word witch because it

always came with negative connotation."

And Maisie

had full ownership of it.

>> Yes.

>> I mean and she and it was like

>> Yeah, the the the divine feminine and

its real power.

>> they are both they both epitomize that

and it's

so

peaceful to see because I'm like if

that's where that generation is, is my

daughter's definitely in that

generation. Um

It's it makes you calm for the future.

Like, maybe our job was well done, you

know, Gloria Steinem.

>> Yeah, rest in peace, Gloria.

>> I see how genuine Mazie and Joey are

about other women.

>> Mhm.

>> Their want for other women to succeed

fearlessly. They are in support of these

women. They don't feel like anything is

being taken from them in their support

of other women. And I'm like

I I I I just find them

I I just I learned I learned a lot from

them.

>> They, of course, adore you. They loved

working with you. And they their

questions were so tender. I loved their

questions. Um and and makes sense that

they're those kind of people. Um Mazie's

was

she was kind of talking about your

physicality. And she also said something

I found really interesting. And, you

know, not to make the comparison, but it

was very it's very Lucy. It's very

Lucille Ball. Is that she was talking

about the way you like to really

rehearse your physical stuff. That

rehearsing is the way in which you kind

of get into it. And and

>> physical stuff. Not for verbal comedic

stuff.

>> that's what Lucy used to do. Lucy used

to come in and walk through her physical

stuff. Which you imagine like her

physical stuff felt like it was

spontaneous. Not at all. And she got

more and more comfortable with the

physical by doing it. And yeah, she was

really into rehearsing. And anyway, she

talked about how for her that physical

stuff is kind of like Mazie can probably

cry like that.

>> Best of that. Yeah.

I mean, Aris is the most incredible

character. But she was like the

physicality in comedy in in in those two

things. And she was like, how does She

was like, how do you not get

self-conscious when you're doing it?

Which I thought was such a tender

question.

And um I feel like we talked about it a

little bit, but but but I guess how do

you not?

>> You do. And you use it.

>> Yeah.

>> To be uncomfortable is the greatest

feeling for me within doing the physical

things like that is uncomfortable as I

can get cuz then I can react off of it.

So, I try to set things up to even bump

myself. I we had this great gentleman

who's a Gary who did props. Gary,

love me some So, he's always my set

boyfriend Gary in the props because it

became a game of I would set things a

certain way

and he figured out why I was setting

them a certain way so I could surprise

myself and then get caught on something

and he would slightly move it to the

side

and it would just give me something

else. And like when it didn't move I was

like, "Why didn't you move it? Why

didn't Gary move it for me?" But it to

be uncomfortable is the best position to

be in I feel for what the comedy that I

like to do. I mean you too, right?

>> Absolutely. Like a little bit of

tension.

>> Yeah.

>> That and that feeling of like a little

bit of danger

>> Mhm.

>> and um

you know, a tiny bit of uh I don't know.

I guess it's what an athlete must feel.

I'm the closest thing to feeling like

I'll never be an athlete. But the idea

that

there's something on the line. There's

something on the line.

>> That you can create that that's not

scary but but a little bit of stress.

>> Yes. And that's that's what I do for my

lines. I learn them three quarters.

I I'll never drop a line for another

actor but I want to always like be able

to pivot, drop it if I need to, be in

danger, like let it surprise me as well

cuz you can become very wrote.

>> Yeah.

>> And that that's

>> you learn your lines which I choose not

to do.

>> You don't Okay, wait.

>> I don't believe in it.

>> [laughter]

>> That line thing.

>> And then Joey had the sweetest question

which is when is the last time you asked

yourself, "Wow, does it get any better

than this?"

>> I know.

>> [laughter]

>> I know.

>> Um

>> [laughter]

>> What a nice What a crazy question.

>> know how to answer

Isn't that so nice? Look at us crying.

We're so good at it.

>> [laughter]

>> DO YOU SEE IT? GET A CLOSE UP.

>> WE'RE GOOD. WE CAN DO IT.

>> But that's that's when I cry. I cry with

kindness. I in the big moments when you

expect everyone to cry, I have to hold

it together because I have to take care

of big things.

The feels hit me when there's

kindness that I didn't expect. And that

question

>> What a great question.

>> I don't. And I think that's what she's

meaning. She knows I don't stop enough

and go I but

such a this whole past year from from

London when we started filming I I I see

things

just like so differently.

>> Yeah.

>> I I really do. It's like I'm allowing

myself to be a kid and how I see things

again.

>> But it that play is the is the um

indication that you're at a little out

of crisis. It's really out of crisis.

>> Really?

>> It's hard to play when you're in crisis.

It's like what the reason why for a lot

of people it was hard to create during

COVID. It was hard to like

organize thing you know, cuz when we

when you're really feeling in crisis

play is is the first to go.

When you feel that back again, that's

like some little bit of

>> sense.

>> like feeling that things are getting

just a little bit more safe or regulated

like

>> Well, I mean for Joey then her both of

them like just you know, cuz we're

passing the torch or we're like as

Gloria said, I light others torches. So

it is enlighting their torch.

It was a bonfire, you know, and to be

opposite them when there was like a lot

on the we have the nostalgia part and to

see them just bring it.

That's when it doesn't get any better.

>> Yeah.

>> When the choices we made to bring those

two very specific talents on and watch

them kill it.

>> You're such a good producer.

>> You know, it's like you're like

>> Can we just talk take a minute?

>> I love it.

>> Can we take a You just you just really

really

deeply

empathetic compassionate very

successful. And

uh

you're just a baller of a producer.

>> But you know that's really nice of you

to say. I mean I don't

>> You have produced, well, like 15 films

or something, and you produce a lot of

stuff, and I think a lot of people can

feel your presence when you're working

on something cuz they know that you're

producing it, frankly.

>> a lot of good sucking up in your

interviews. You say some good stuff.

>> back at you. You're always trying to

throw it back at me. Okay, and Practical

Magic, really good music. Right? Right?

I mean, did you have to get Was it Did

you have to write personal letters to

people to get their music in?

>> I did some calling.

>> Yeah.

Olivia Rodrigo, Fleetwood Mac.

>> and she doesn't license to anyone. And

she's a fellow witchy poo.

>> She's a what a peach. She's a

Talk about like the like

>> Talk about

>> future is female.

>> No kidding. She's She's

>> Olivia, please come on. We love you.

Okay. All right. Let's do a speed round.

A speed speed round.

>> Speed. Hold on. Let me get it. Let me

wet my whistle.

>> You love real estate and design.

>> it like this?

>> Yeah, let's do it like this. Well, then

the the pervs will get into it.

>> Oh. But don't you want pervs in an

audience?

>> Well, you know what? It's a great

question. I welcome pervs.

>> I love is the [laughter] laughing that's

come Are they sitting in the bathroom?

Because they're the echo. Is there tile

in that room? There is, [laughter]

right? Speaking of real estate, there's

no better laugh than a laugh FROM THE

TOILET.

>> OH MY GOD, THAT'S SUCH a good call. Tile

a tile of laughs.

Right? Cuz it's like usually ladies in

the bathroom. I also enjoy a laugh that

comes from like when you're a little kid

and you're sitting on the stairs and

there's like a party downstairs. I love

the laugh that travels up the stair.

Okay.

>> [laughter]

>> But yes,

>> You heard that is the way So it's

happened recently. Like

>> Yes.

Um also, yes.

Sorry. Let me get back to your question.

Pervs are welcome, but creeps are not.

>> Okay. Yeah, now we we

>> Big difference.

>> Got it. I Yes.

>> We've talked about this on here with Ike

Barinholtz.

>> Okay.

>> There's a difference between a partner

and a creep.

You know who you are.

>> Yes, yes.

>> Okay. [laughter]

But you love real estate and design.

>> I do.

>> How would you describe your design sense

in a word or two?

>> Depends on the structure.

>> So you go with the place. Like you're

listening to the

>> I listen to the place. I walk in and I

go, "Who were the craftsmen? What does

this place want to be?" Cuz I love the

restoration process.

>> So I feel like that word would be like

organic history or

>> Wabi-sabi.

>> Wabi

Here we go. Okay.

Sleep.

What time do you go to bed?

>> Love it. Um I'm a great sleeper.

>> Of course you are.

>> sleeper.

>> I knew you would.

>> I mean I try to stay awake until, you

know, Layla's in bed cuz she's a

terrorist at night. So I just Once she's

out, then I can go to bed. But it's like

10:00, up at 5:30.

>> That's what a professional does.

>> It is.

>> Pets.

>> Mhm.

>> How many do you have?

>> I have four right now.

>> And what flavors?

>> I have flavors. I have vanilla,

peach,

>> [laughter]

>> and two chocolates.

>> Do you have chickens?

>> I don't All my chickens passed away.

>> I'm sorry.

>> I have a

a somewhat blind

poodle.

I have a a little rescue poodle who has

a collapsed trachea cuz they shoved

spoons down her throat

to quiet her. She was part of an illegal

puppy mill.

>> Oh, bless her heart.

>> least they have legs. I We never We had

dogs without legs and the kids were

like, "Enough." We have Mama who is a

black feral somewhat feral cat that was

on my property who then brought two

baby. Like I'm highly allergic to cats

and I was like, "I am not bringing a cat

in this house."

>> And Mama

>> are in the house. Like so there's two

There's Mama and her baby and Yeah, so

two gorgeous black cats. My sister calls

them the house panthers.

>> [laughter]

>> I go, "That's brilliant." So they're the

house panthers.

>> Um horses. Do you like them?

>> Love them but highly allergic.

>> Well, cuz I have a theory that the bet

The thicker your hair, the more you like

horses.

>> Love them but I'm highly allergic. My

daughter is a great rider. She is She is

She's knows how to tame the beast.

>> Um what's the musical artist that your

kids got you into?

>> J. Cole

>> Mhm.

>> I mean

>> Yeah.

>> It's good.

>> Protein. How do you take yours? How do

you GET IT?

>> THICK.

>> [laughter]

>> I MEAN YOU SET ME UP. YOU SAID PROTEIN,

how do YOU TAKE IT?

>> [laughter]

>> I WASN'T even thinking that. What a

dirty mind.

>> I wasn't thinking that either.

I'm talking about chicken.

Greek yogurt, thick Greek sandy bullet.

>> 0% Greek yogurt. Very good. That's what

I was talking about.

>> pulled chicken salad and then you know

the little peptide proteins in the

coffee in the morning.

>> to figure out how to get it.

>> it's like but are we going to find out

like 10 years from now that we've

overdone it and we've grown some like

internal [laughter] like eyes something

like

>> Yes. And also I always appreciate when

it's like what's another thing I'm

supposed to get right? Like what is

another thing I have to do?

>> Good lord.

>> Um okay and then um wait is this all of

our speed round questions?

>> That's a lot of fun. Okay. Yeah, we're

almost done. Here we go. We got to wrap

this up.

>> Okay.

Um we have you have places to be and you

have talked so much.

Um [laughter]

I mean IN A GOOD WAY.

>> I APOLOGIZE. I MEAN when this podcast is

over I'm going away for another four

years. I'm gone. PROMISE. PROMISE.

>> DON'T LEAVE FOR A YEAR. WE LOVE YOU.

>> A YEAR. UNLESS I come back I'll just

stop here once a year. Like I got

something going on or not I'll just

stop.

>> That came out the wrong way. I mean that

you've had to talk so much. It's

not that you've talked so much here. I

love you talking here. And I've loved

it. And so my last question for you is

that I ask everybody is um what's making

you laugh? Like what

>> [laughter]

>> But I mean when you're like at home you

know what's the thing that you are you

know it it like where do you go when you

need to change the chemistry?

>> Inside of my head.

>> [laughter]

>> You're on it.

That makes sense cuz you're so funny.

>> It's like it's like nothing makes me

laugh harder than

Louis, my son, man of few words. Like

like it's like da da da da da. I don't

know.

I don't know no no no. And he's like,

"Mom." Yeah, he mumbles everything and I

can't I can't understand a word. I'm

like, "English." He's 16 and 1/2. I'm

like, "English." And then when he's

standing there and he's, you know, no no

smile and he's like, you know, "Can you

can I can I have a milkshake?" And I'm

like, "Yeah, sure." And then I get up

there and I go,

"My milkshake brings you to the" and

I'll just start twerking

>> [laughter]

>> and he's just watching it and then if he

smiles, I'm laughing so hard whether he

smiles or not, but like humiliation

>> Yes.

>> makes me laugh.

>> Me, too.

>> If I can humiliate my children

>> Yes.

>> privacy of our home, not in public, but

in the privacy of our own home with a

little rump shaking, I I it's the

greatest joy.

>> But that's play. Like you're just

playing. Yeah. And also, it is I mean, I

can say this, but you can't, but like he

like it's so funny to know that

the entire world loves you, Sandy. They

feel so connected to you. They've grown

up with you. You are their favorite. And

yet you cannot get your child to laugh.

>> I cannot. I cannot.

>> It's so funny and also a great healthy

relationship.

>> It's very It's very healthy.

>> Yes.

>> That's That's how you want it to be.

>> just annoying right now to both

children. I'm just annoying.

>> That's That's perfect. That's the

perfect thing you should be for any

teen. But um

I I I just love talking to you. I knew I

would. I didn't want to put too much

expectation on us being friends, but I

do feel like we

>> But you know how nice this is for me?

>> best friends.

>> No, I mean, but I think

us not really I mean, little ships

passing in the night, little, you know,

but having the opportunity to meet you

now at this stage of our life

>> Yeah.

>> pretty amazing because

everything is all over the place and

we're all striving for things and

relationships and kids and dreams and

things like that, but

to be able to sit here and and

acknowledge like where we are and where

we've been and that well I'm I'm looking

at you just going I'm so glad you are

that you just are and I'm so glad that

you have this this

world that you've created so we get to

come in and experience you in a way that

we wouldn't be able to and you you like

you are you are one of those that those

of us who love comedy

do the like the the bend and

>> Oh, come on.

>> But you you have to know that.

>> Thank you very much.

>> to a a great many of us.

>> Thank you very much for saying that.

>> it is it is

it is it

it's unmatched.

>> The feeling is mutual.

>> But just shut up and take the compliment

for a second. So for you you're allowing

>> hitting it right back to you, babe.

>> Shut your face. So just [laughter] just

you invite

>> us is giving the present and one of us

is receiving and I'm giving and you're

receiving and you're not giving me a

present at the end of this conversation.

>> [laughter]

>> Thank you so much for saying that. It

means a lot to me.

>> And I I feel really grateful and this is

I'm was very I was a little nervous

>> You were? Oh, I'm sorry to hear

that.

>> No, no, no, in a good in a good way

because I was so looking forward to it.

>> Same. I I wanted to kind of temper my

expectation cuz I was like, don't come

on too strong. It's okay if she doesn't

become your friend.

>> It's okay if she doesn't like you. Most

people don't. Just relax.

>> I mean just walking in and seeing you,

you know, was like I I was like, did I

just cross a boundary by like throwing

my arms around her face, you know, but I

I

I felt very safe here. And you make

people feel very very To me that is

everything.

>> Sandy, thank you. Really, thank you so

much for doing it. And

I adore you. So thanks so much.

>> I I I now adore you.

>> WE DID IT!

OH MY GOD, IT WAS SO GOOD!

>> [screaming]

>> OH, SANDRA BULLOCK, YOU ARE JUST THE

BEST. Thank you so much for coming on.

That was such a delight to talk to you.

And like everything you do was moving

and deep and funny and real and

authentic. Um, I just love talking to

you. And for this Polar Plunge, I think

you know,

uh

Sandy talked a lot about the um

the care that she took of her partner

Bryan Randall who died of ALS and I

think we spoke a little bit about

caretaking in general. And I guess I

just wanted to take the second to reach

out to anybody who's listening today who

are in the thick of it, who are

caretaking currently as we speak or know

someone who is stretched thin, we're

just sending our love to you. I know

Sandy would feel the same and she said

some really amazing things here about

making sure to take care of yourself

along the way. So, reminding you of that

message and uh saying thanks if no one

said thanks to you today. Thank you. Um,

thank you for listening. Sandy, thank

you for all that you've done and the joy

you've given us and continue to give us.

And thanks for listening to Good Hang.

Bye.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The

executive producers for this show are

Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss [music]

Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is

produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite.

For The Ringer, production by Jack

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McMullen, Aleia Zineres, Bridget

Gearlings, Page Garbarini, Bill Roman,

and Drew Van Steenbergen. For Paper

Kite, production by Sam Green, Joe

Lovell, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original

music by Amy Miles. [music]

>> All I ever wanted was a really

good hang.