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Hello everyone. Welcome to another
episode of Good Hang. We are going to
talk today to Davine Joy Randolph and I
am really, really excited. I'm such a
fan of her work and we are going to get
into it today. We're going to talk about
opera. We're going to talk about musical
theater. We're going to talk about how
to do a good Boston accent. And we're
going to hear how Aluccino made her cry
in a good way. So, uh, it's a great
convo. and I can't wait to get started.
But before we do, we always talk to
somebody who knows our guest and has a
question to ask our guest. And joining
me today is a director of the film
Eternity. Um, a film that Dave Mine is
in. And uh I I believe uh he is uh
calling from uh another country. He's
zooming from another country, another
time zone. So let's see. Uh it's David
Fra joining us. David, can you hear us?
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[music and singing]
>> Hello.
>> Hi. How are you?
>> Hi. So nice to meet you.
>> So good to meet you.
>> We're talking to Davine today and um you
know it's it's it's it's
fun because Davine I have to say is one
of I I really don't know very much about
her. We've never met and we have
>> friends in common and people in common
and but I've only kind of watched her as
a fan and watched her stuff. Um
>> so I'm interested to get to know her
today and to talk about her today. But
um before we do that, I just wanted to
say congratulations on your film and
>> um it's you know I'm always looking for
um comedy in theaters and in film. It's
been not to be very honest like not
always the easiest genre the last decade
to get good things out in the world. And
comedy is like music. It's so
subjective. It's people have big strong
opinions about it. Um, how where did you
where were your comedic influences like
when you started writing and and
directing? Um, who were you looking to
at the time?
>> I grew up loving uh like Billy Wilder
was my idol. So,
>> um, and then like I mean 30 Rock and and
Parks and Wreck and those great iconic
kind of TV comedies were were where
where you get such a high joke rate per
minute which I think we don't get very
often. So, I always looked to that. I
think with Eternity, we wanted to make
sure it was like laden down with jokes,
just like joke after joke after joke.
Um, because I kind of I miss really hard
comedy. And I think that like segueing
to Devine and my incredible cast, that
just goes, you can write as good a
script as you want, but that's the
delivery. That's the actors. And
>> and you know, some [snorts] some of the
best dramatic actors in the world cannot
land a joke. And I think that holy
grail,
>> they better not. I mean, God is fair.
You can't [laughter] do
>> you can't do it all. Before we get to
Dave, one last question and feel we can
always if it's too personal of course we
can lose it but um you shared a really
um personal and intense story about your
health journey after writing this film
that feels like it is in completely
attached to and tied to the bigger idea
that you're writing about.
>> Yeah. So in the summer like about six
months ago I had really bad headaches
which I had during the production as
well like I would work really hard and
then collapse on the weekends. Um, but I
got they found a an apples-ized tumor in
my head uh that had kind of kind of
broken through my brain and and
surrounded my optic nerves and um
corroted arteries and like it was it was
a really surreal devastating thing to go
through. And um at the start they didn't
know if it was going to be kind of
operable or or malignant or and my my
immediate thoughts were like I'm not
going to get to see eternity released
which is such a vain thing to say
[laughter] but you know after so many
years but um you know the the I I've had
incredible care and doctors and
incredible family and and my partner and
it's you know slowly it's gotten better
and I've had a great great outcome from
the surgery and I will Having gone
through that in the last few months
after making a film set in the
afterlife, I felt quite contented like I
felt
I felt I was looking at debt with a lot
more curiosity than fear. I think had
you know I think I would have been much
more afraid had it happened before the
film. And I think just the experience of
making the film was so fun and joyous.
And I think the the the things we spoke
about with with Devon and the cast and
and my Patton just like as well like
even just not just the work you want to
do but the people you want to spend your
time with and the people you want to
work with and working with good people,
kind people,
>> uh people that share your kind of
passions. I think that
>> that becomes much more important because
you don't really have time for
Um, I also don't have time for
either.
>> Yeah. Yeah. are
They're the worst.
>> So, um, tell me about working with
Davine.
>> What how does she like to work? Cuz I
we're talking to her today and she's
quite studied. I mean, she has done a
ton of she's like a student in voice and
acting. She has really knows her stuff.
>> Yeah, she's she's she's extraordinary. I
think um I think what really strike like
me firstly I was we were desperate to
work with her and I really wanted her
for the role and then she won her Oscar
and I was really bummed because I
thought now I won't get to work with her
but thankfully she still wanted to do
the film. Um but yeah she's she's had
the most incredibly varied career from
opera to theater to to then finding
acting and and it it does feel like she
can do anything. I mean, I you know, I
we knew even though The Holdover is such
a dramatic role, we knew she'd be really
funny, but like she might be the most
naturally gifted comedian I've ever
worked with. She's extraordinary and it
does feel effortless to her. Like, it
doesn't feel like she has like
annoyingly she seems to not have any of
the um anguish and anxiety that most
comedians I know have. Like, she just
she just is brilliant. And I think she
maybe kind of slightly knows she's
brilliant. Yes.
>> Yeah, she's she's extraordinary. She has
she [snorts] comes to set and comes to
everything with such a weird level of
calm. She's completely unflapable, which
I like. She could come like the set
could be on fire and she'll just be
like, "Okay, hey Dave, what's going on?
Are we going to evacuate or are we going
to shoot?" Like she's just
extraordinary. Like
>> I want to talk to her about that. That's
really interesting. like nothing seems
to either either she hides it very well
or nothing phases her or um which I find
fascinating because I'm phased by most
things. Um yeah, she's she is um like
she can kind of she's one of those
people that I would put no limits on. I
think she can do I think she can do
anything as as a performer, as an actor,
as as a comedian. Um, yeah, it's kind of
almost infuriating how good she is
>> to be that good of an actor and to also
be funny is it's not nice. It's not nice
for the rest of everybody, you know,
like
>> it's not fair. Um,
>> so I I would love to ask you as I as I
have Davine here today, is there a
question you think I should ask her? um
big or small um specific or
you know um existential something that
you a story that you think she might
want to tell or um something that you
have yet to know about her that you'd
like to have answered.
>> I mean I really want to know two things
is one is where did the comp the calm
she has come from because it's so it's
it's so admirable to me and I I I I
don't I don't think you can be born with
that. It's something else. And the other
thing is because she's had such a varied
career is when did she know how funny
she was? Like when did she discover she
was a comedian because it's not like she
didn't do sketch comedy really or
standup like when did she know she had
that gift? Was that later in life that
she was like, "Oh, I'm really funny.
Maybe I'll try that." So they're the two
things I'd love to know because I
haven't got that out of her.
>> Great questions both. I love to ask this
to people when I'm on Zoom with them and
they have books behind them. Will you
just randomly pick one book up out from
behind you
>> and tell us what the title is?
>> What the title is?
>> Yeah.
>> Um Oh, I'm gonna pick this one because
my uh my sister-in-law wrote it. The
Boldness of Betty.
>> Oh, The Boldness of Betty.
>> It's an amazing series of kind of YA
books. They're beautiful.
>> Always looking for a new book. Thank you
for that, Wreck.
>> Yeah. And also, I just got to check to
make sure those books are real.
>> No, I actually can't read. Uh,
[laughter]
>> yeah,
>> I can tell. It's just the covers and the
inside.
Yeah. [laughter] Yeah.
>> Yeah. Perfect. Perfect. Thank you so
much, David. Such a pleasure talking to
you. Thanks for your time.
>> Thank you so much. Have a lovely day.
>> You, too. Bye-bye.
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>> Davine, we're talking about sparkling
water. We're talking about water. And
you love sparkling water.
>> I love sparkling water.
>> Me, too. And why can't we drink it
anymore?
>> You said we can't drink it anymore.
>> My doctor said I'm on the verge of
having a hernia
>> because of so much of the like
>> bubbles and the the alkaline salt and
stuff in it. But you said something that
you said that's my coffee.
>> That is my coffee in the morning.
>> It's my That's my cocktail. That's my
cocktail. Like a
>> when you open up the bottle and it's
like
>> I know
it does something lime in there.
>> And you know it's fascinating how in
Europe they have percentages
>> of fists. Don't even get me started.
>> Well, so how do you feel about your
sparkling water? is I get the big
bottles, but then I don't you only drink
like half of it and then it's done. It's
dead.
>> Mhm.
>> A dead sparkling water.
>> So, what I do is I pour it in a fancy
like wine glass. So, that's funny that
you say cocktails. I immediately twist
it up.
>> Cover it up real
[laughter]
like almost about to cut my fingers.
Super tight. Put that bad boy back in
the fridge.
>> I put my Selzer waters in a wine cooler
chest. I have a wine cooler chest. This
is how much I revere.
>> Me too. I I completely completely to me
in the same way one would be like, "Oh
no, I got to make sure that there's wine
in my fridge." I panic if there's not a
a sparkling water situation in my
fridge.
>> I know. And some brands are hard to get
the boxes of.
>> Right.
>> I have fought many clerks
in Bristol Farms cuz they're like, "No,
no, ma'am. You can't take that whole
box." And I'm like, "Then you shouldn't
have had it out here." Also, have you
ever been real bougie and ordered it
from uh oh, I don't know, like a
delivery service and then all a sudden
you get the heaviest box that you got to
carry in your house and you're it's
filled with sparkling water.
>> What pisses me off?
>> That's success is if you're on Postmates
and you tell them to get the water for
you and you want the 33.5 fluid ounces
>> and they'll show up with a 22 or a 16.
And I'm like, you should have called me
>> cuz then I would have said,
>> yeah,
>> don't get them. Mhm.
>> Or how many of the 33 did you have?
>> Four. Okay, just get those and then go
to the next Bristol Farms and get the
other ones.
>> I found out recently you can't get light
bulbs delivered anymore.
>> Why?
>> They won't take the risk. Like they're
like [laughter]
>> they're like it's going to show. They're
like we it's going to break. And it's
like what
>> what
>> what do you mean?
>> People are getting soft down here. I
don't like that light bulbs.
[laughter] It's not even on. I mean, I
have to say I do love ordering things
and then like putting it out of my mind
and then when a package comes I'm like,
"What is this?" [laughter]
>> I And I think I'm like, "What is it?
What is it? What could it be?" And then
I open and it's like the best Christmas
ever cuz it's the best.
>> It's the spatula that I wanted that I
ordered [laughter]
>> two days ago.
>> Yeah. And it shows up and you're like,
>> "Oh my gosh." I was literally in Costco
yesterday
>> and I was going past the the mixers
>> like right like the the mixers. What is
that? Like table wear. I don't know what
it's called.
>> I love kitchen wear table wear. I love
that. I could I could
>> So I went past and I was like gosh it's
on sale. I want one. And I literally
remembered
because life is lifing. No, no, no,
babes. You ordered one for Black Friday
already. [laughter] And I literally
almost cried with excitement. I couldn't
believe it. I was like, [laughter] I
have one already. It was crazy. That's
how weird life is right now.
>> I love kitchen gear so much.
>> So much.
>> It's like a treat. I sometimes I'll go
past the wall of gadgets. I'm like,
"Okay, I have a garlic press. I have a
wooden mallet. Okay, I have a zestester.
I have a" And I'm like, "What do I need
for my collection?"
>> And then I'm big on aesthetics.
>> So [clears throat] the mixer I got, have
you seen it? It's like the limited
collection from William and Sonoma.
>> Not a sponsor. Okay, talk me through
this. What you got?
>> Hunter Green [laughter]
>> with a dark mahogany wood mixing bowl.
>> Holy
>> Mhm.
>> A wooden Oh, wow. So, we're talking
KitchenAid.
>> Yeah.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Yeah. And I forgot. And I was going to
just a stainless steel one or like the
red one in Costco like, "Oh, jeez. I
wish I had one."
>> Oh, this is very a very And I remember
that I have that bad boy on this way.
[laughter]
>> I can't believe you forgot that you
ordered this.
>> And do you see why I almost cried in
Costco? Cuz I was like, you're going to
get better than that.
>> You're winning.
>> Before we get into We haven't started
yet, but before
>> can I also So then I'm about to really
knock your socks off. I've been wanting
these pots and pans.
>> Stand by
>> for generations. [laughter] And this is
about good.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. William and Sonoma
now. You're crushing it at William and
Soma.
>> Just put in
Heritage Copper.
>> Oh, you got me right there.
>> Hands. I don't know.
>> You got me right there.
>> It's this Italian company. I think it
begins with an R.
>> Copper cookware.
I love cookware. I could talk
about cookware all day long. Um, let's
see. What do we got here? Rufoni.
>> Yes, baby.
>> Okay, for those who don't know, these
are We're looking at a copper pan with a
silver stainless steel inside.
>> Yep. Historical
hammered copper 11 piece set. Guess
what? Originally $2,000.
>> Babes, I got it.
>> Our price $15.49.
>> WHY WOULD YOU NOT BUY THAT? [laughter]
>> And and the price is in red. So I got to
get it.
>> I have to get it cuz it's about to be
sold out and no more. Trust and believe
I got the 11 piece. [laughter]
>> Absolutely.
>> I'm I'm I'm going to get
>> I'M GOING TO PASS THAT DOWN TO MY
CHILDREN. LIKE it's so beautiful. It's
made in Italy. Like what?
>> Anything that's Italian, forget if
someone's like, "This is an Italian
knife." It's like, I got to get it.
>> Okay, no [laughter] problem.
>> Dave Joy Randolph is here.
>> Oh, we just got right into it. We
already have all our cookware for I'm
getting every and I trust your taste.
>> Please do. Text it to me
>> and I want to see like your first meal.
>> I want to see your first meal made and
I'm literally tearing up. [laughter]
>> Do you love to cook?
>> I love to cook.
>> And I I talked about this on the podcast
a little bit. I came late to cooking. I
did not grow up cooking and my mom
always is like I cooked but my mom was a
working mom who um
>> Are your parents teachers? Yeah. So were
mine.
>> Yeah. So like she cooked
>> but Yeah. But it was like Yeah. She
didn't cook
>> like holidays maybe. Then she showed
out. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And she was busy working. But so I
didn't really know how to cook. And I
thought in my 40s I was like I'm just
not going to be able to cook.
>> Yeah.
>> And I learned and now I love it. M
>> well I actually this is going to
dovetail into the theme that I wanted to
talk to you about today because I'm I'm
really impressed. I I I think you're so
talented.
>> Thank you.
>> And so naturally talented and so such a
good actress and so funny
>> and those and and such a good singer
like you do so many things so well.
>> Thanks.
>> And your career is a lot of like
>> I'm going to try that. A lot of like
[laughter]
>> a lot of maybe I should try that. No,
hold on. What's over here? Maybe I
should try that.
>> Still.
>> Still.
>> Still cooking.
>> Yeah.
>> Why not?
>> Right.
>> Yeah.
>> So, a lot of people know you as an
actress, but I don't think as many
people know that you first kind of
entered the world of arts as a singer.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> And that was where that was kind of like
the door you walked through.
>> Yep.
>> I like to I like to ask this to people
who are have beautiful voices. When did
you when did you know you had a good
voice? When did you hear it for the
first time or someone say you have a
good voice? When was the first time you
>> I didn't know. I thought that's what
people sounded like. Right.
>> And it wasn't until like I started
getting training that I was like there's
people out here who can't sing.
>> When you say started getting trained,
what does that mean? Taking voice
lessons.
>> Yeah. Taking voice lessons. So when I
was younger, it was like right like
family and friends and I thought they're
just being nice or whatever because I
I'm a Gemini. Like I'm a Taurus Gemini.
So like I'm a very focused
>> Gemini that wants all the options. So
like even as a kid
>> it wasn't like and you are a singer like
I was the poster child for after school
programs. I did it all and I like I I so
appreciate that that my parents
instilled that and was never like stage
parents or like they were like whatever
you want lock in have fun. But even now,
I think that's why acting is fun to me
of like trying on these different people
and not staying one with one for too too
long. But that's also my life.
>> It's people telling me like, "No, no,
for real though, you really could." Like
I thought I've always thought like I'm
decent
>> and it's taken people
>> who I've really admired to be like, "No,
there's something there." um and keep
going or keep pushing.
>> That's amazing. I I hear what you mean.
Like it takes sometimes like a mentor or
someone to say you what you have isn't
the same as what everyone else has. Keep
working on it. Keep doing it. Like that
encouragement can really
>> But can I ask you a question? To me,
when I watch you work, to me it seems as
if there is a natural ease in what you
do.
>> Would you say that that's true?
>> Thank you for saying that. I think I
would hope that it it feels some version
of like
that I'm not trying or striving too
hard.
>> But it did take definitely like
directors and teachers and stuff to be
like, "No, you're funny. Keep going."
Like just the keep going part.
>> The keep going part. Yeah.
>> And and and as you know too, a lot of it
is like we know I know people way
funnier than me.
way better than me and better singers.
But half of the battle is just
>> not giving up.
>> Yep. And being ready when it presents
itself.
>> Not getting a regular job, not having
health insurance, not like just for a
long time and being like, I'm just going
to try to make it.
>> It's not easy.
>> No, no, no, no, no.
>> It's not easy at all.
>> So, you start you you're in Philly.
>> Mhm.
>> Where are you from?
>> I'm from Boston.
>> I felt the Northeast 100%. And I got to
talk to you about your Boston accent.
>> Okay, we'll get there. It was so good.
>> Oh, that means so much. Thank you.
>> It's a hard one. And we're we're tough.
So is Philly. I
>> And that was what was hard for me cuz I
was like, they're touching too close.
>> But Philly has that like um they like
the O's are real.
>> Yeah. Miles Teller does that.
>> He has a Philly accent.
>> Yeah. Hogy. And I'm like, what?
>> Hogy. Yeah.
>> Uhhuh. Yeah.
>> And and
guys, I can't even do it.
>> Yeah. So, Philly, you go to you start
studying music. Your parents are
teachers
>> and you decide to go to school for
opera.
>> So, I'm very competitive. So,
>> yeah. Are you
>> I love competitive people,
>> man. We are literally I love competitive
women.
>> Yeah. Respect all the way.
>> So, um my dad was like, it's
interesting. I I always think of this
and this is so random. My parents did
not for both of their children want to
know the gender in advance. I feel like
that was so cutting edge.
>> Yeah.
>> And my dad really was manifesting and
wishing for the first one to be a boy.
So, didn't [laughter] happen. But he had
a heavy hand in like sports and
competitive and like not backing down.
And so, literally,
I was just a competitive. And so there
was this girl in like a new girl at my
high school that was like I went to this
performing arts school called
Interlockin and my brain went
and I went home that day.
>> I will dominate it. Interlocking I will
win it. I will win it.
>> That's literally what I said to my mom
and she was like okay. I had no idea
what this thing was
>> and I applied.
>> Explain what it was like that camp.
>> Oh my god. Interlocking is one of the
most magical places. I'm not even
kidding. I would recommend any parent
who has a child that has remote interest
in any form of the arts. They do
theater, music, they have a writing
department.
>> It is just like a safe haven for young
grade school artists
>> like budding. It taught me to respect
and revere
>> it. You know what I mean? Like in
everyday life, it's not I don't know.
Maybe now with these generations it's
cool to be an artist, but like me
growing up it was kind of like oh yeah,
you do that other stuff too. Do you know
what I mean?
>> It was kind of like have fun and then
find your real job.
>> Yes. And so that was a place that I
think is so intrical for high school age
kids particularly. I mean, you can
literally go at 4 years old, but for
high school kids to go to to like really
start to dip their toe into finding
themselves as an artist and it just so
such a beautiful place in my life. And
so that was a moment, a very strong
moment um cuz it was classical and I was
like, "Oh no, where's the R&B? Uh that's
for me." Uh and so it was all classical.
>> Wa. So you were singing classical and
did you do can you read music?
>> Now I can at the time I just had like a
really good ear.
>> You're a classically trained opera
singer
>> and it was because of that. It's that's
what started it and it was teachers
being like no you actually have
>> a natural gift. Keep going.
>> Had you seen any opera before that? No.
>> I know. I feel like opera is this thing
that you only see like what as like a
>> it just field trip.
>> It's a field trip. It's so funny. I I
like I I love how we when we grew up
like well you're younger than me but
when I was growing up like the genres
kind of crossed at times and it's where
you learned about people and I remember
I was thinking when I was doing
preparing for today I was like when did
I first know about opera and I think it
was from the Muppets
>> because Beverly Sills who was an famous
opera singer was sang opera on the
Muppets and um
>> I'm also obsessed with the Muppets so
that's why my whole face just dropped
when you said that
>> you love the Muppets
>> babes I wanted to on that show
[laughter] so bad
>> and they were like we're not doing
humans this year. I said
>> no humans.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN? THEY'RE LIKE going to
be like three humans but it's really
them. I was upset. I tried.
>> Who was your favorite muppet?
>> Piggy. Are you kidding?
>> Yeah, I know. She's
>> She That lady LITERALLY [laughter] LADY
>> That lady That lady owes me a lot of
money. [laughter]
>> I am who I am today because of her.
>> Yes. as a ch to imagine as a young age
that being like instilled in you like
you don't take from men, you do
your thing, be fabulous, you don't
change who you I was like, yep, yep,
yep, yep. I literally made my parents
buy me a tricycle. So, you know, she
does that skit where she's like with the
motorcycle pack and she's like, "Get
[laughter] around, get I used to do it
all the time." And I used to make my mom
give me a leather jacket. Girl, it was a
[clears throat] thing. That's my girl.
When they told me that thing was coming
back, I said, "Please." I saidm
>> the other place that I saw opera was um
Queen in um Bohemian Rap City.
>> Sure.
>> Like I was like
>> I actually think that's a that's a
bridge like a a gateway for a lot of
people.
>> Yeah. I think a lot of people were like
what is he singing? How is he singing
that way? I was like oh no that's what
opera sounds like. So you when did you
see your first opera? immed like immed
once I went to the performing arts
school it was like they completely like
slapped me with the culture and I was
like whoa
>> and what what was your first feeling
about it like what did you like about it
having like what made you want to keep
pursuing it
>> the power in my voice
>> that I was like oh there's and also I'm
going to be really honest they really
sold me on the idea that it was a really
good life like
>> you're going to live in Europe
>> and men are going to drool over you
[laughter] And you get to wear beautiful
gowns,
>> roses at your feet,
>> and eat pasta all day. [laughter] And
you work hard, but not that hard. Like
cuz opera singers, they don't how many
like even if you're at the top of your
game, yeah, if you have concerts, but
they don't like we can do 17 million
shows in a year,
>> they may do like two, three opera. So
>> I was like, this is a lifestyle.
>> Not a Broadway schedule.
>> No, ma'am. M
>> are you does opera is do you have to
kind of like pick like a like an
athlete? Do you have to pick your role
like uh
>> the voice part kind of dictates it?
>> So what is your voice? What are you?
>> So I'm considered a baby dramatic
soprano which means like I don't know
that's what they say
>> a baby
>> and I'm always like well I always have
the baby part even as I get older. I
don't know maybe but it it's like
basically it's like so Leantine Price I
don't think they would consider her a
baby but uh dramatic soprano basically
means you have the low notes but you can
also get up to the high notes but
instead of like traditionally a soprano
the high notes are very like soft and
airy like more like Ariana Grande like
right like really breathy and soft and
just like heavenly and like a dramatic
soprano is like you can get up there but
like with some heft
>> baby dramatic soprano.
>> And did you ever do an opera on stage?
>> I went to Temple University for the
teacher. Quinta went there. Uh we were
there at the same time, Quenta Bronson.
And
>> did you guys were you friends? Did you
know each other then?
>> We were in passing because she was like
so theater and I was still music.
>> Ah. And they were still felt separate.
>> Yeah. They were very at that time now
it's like a conservatory and there's a
musical theater department. Um and so so
anyways, I went to temple and we were
doing Aayita. Wow.
>> And uh you know my middle class parents,
teachers, like they're not dumb, but
it's like if you were to watch
Shakespeare for the first time, like
they don't know what's going on. And so
I remember my brain was just like, I
want to be able, it wasn't even acted. I
want to be able to portray this
character
>> and know this character very well so
that it can translate
>> for like my family and friends that come
see this. I remember that very clearly.
I don't even know where that came from.
>> Yeah.
>> And so I remember we used to go across
the street to the theater department,
what was like communications to copy
sheet music. And I literally was copying
sheet music and it sound like people
were dying in the room next door. And it
was a theater class. And so I went up to
this teacher afterwards and I was like,
"Hey, I'm working on an opera across the
street. Like could you help me? I want
to like bring this to life and it be
good." Wow. Very long story short, the
music department got ultra pissed and
they were like, "No, no, you can't do
that.
>> You can't cross over there."
>> And I was like, "I don't want to cross
over. I don't want to be an actor." But
I guess because it had happened so many
times, they were very like territorial
over it and they flunked me out.
>> Excuse me.
>> Yep. And it was my mom that I'm like
balling on the phone. This is like my
junior spring. I'm out of here. I'm
about to go be in Italy like living my
best life. And my mom was like, "Go
across the street." I'll never forget.
She talked. So, you know how moms are
when their child is like devastated.
>> Yeah.
>> And she was like, "Step one, go across
the street.
>> Go speak to the administration.
>> You're going to apply to the theater
program because most of your credits can
transfer."
>> Mhm.
>> And I actually think you might be good
at it. That's literally how she said. It
was like, but she knew I needed logic
first, like
>> cuz I kept thinking, oh my god, like I'm
about to graduate. I have now completely
find a new
>> right, you're pot committed to this
thing. And then
>> and I was like, okay. [laughter]
I remember they tell me this to this day
that I went to the administration office
and I was like, I have to be an actor.
[laughter]
And they were like, what? And I was
like, I'm crying. And they were like,
you are. You are.
>> Exactly.
And then you got really into
Shakespeare, right? You did a lot of
Shakespeare
>> later. Yeah. Later. So when I got into
Yale, I faked it. I did Shakespeare, but
I think I did like Tatana when she sees
bottom and she's like in love. Sun the
ruler like you know
>> I don't
>> I had to really meaning like
>> is that more comedic? Is it usually
>> It is kind of more comedic. So
interesting that what you're saying is
like there's like there's Shakespeare
and then
>> Yeah. Like it wasn't me reciting like
Hamlet where it was like okay you're
just standing there and delivering this
speech. It was like this strong Tatana
is like kind of like a Michelle Obama,
like a tough girl that's like got it all
together
>> who now you see gets to be like she's
drunk the Kool-Aid and she's like
whimsically like this anjenu in love and
just being silly and in love with this
like you know having like a kind of like
teenage middle school moment of like oh
my god this guy is so cute. So it was
that but like I'm saying in the sense of
like I wasn't doing hair. you want to do
shake more shake.
>> So I went to after my first year I was
like I don't know this because I was
doing another classical art. I don't
know this one. And so uh I went to the
British Academy of Dramatic Arts
>> Holy
>> at Oxford which I couldn't believe it.
We literally ate lunch where Harry
Potter ate lunch. [laughter] Like I
remember walking in there being like oh
my god I made it.
>> Yeah. And so I was it was just so cool
because I learned Shakespeare like
>> by the people who do it. Wow.
>> But I love that sense of command that
they have over language.
>> I love how much you have trained.
>> Thank you.
>> Like you are you really know your stuff.
>> Thank you. I really appreciate that.
>> I I I was fun.
>> I bet. And it gives to to your point
like it's supposed to be a journey like
fun. And when you get to try and fail
over and over again and then you get
stronger and better.
>> It is the best feeling to me. It's kind
of like freedom within form. Like as
long as I know the guard rails are up,
I'm going to bang up against those
guardrails. But like right to in order
for me to really
>> be loose and give all of myself even
with comedy, like I just need to know
the parameters.
>> Yeah.
>> And then I'm just going to go off and it
allows me to um so I guess in a way the
training is like the guard rails that
then when I work I'm like whatever. Like
have you ever
>> watched something back of yours? I don't
like to
>> I don't love to
>> don't like ADR is one of the most
traumatic.
>> Oh yeah. Also also ADR is for people who
don't know it's like that moment in the
film when you have to kind of go back
sometimes and re-record stuff
>> which for me is my first time of seeing
it ever.
>> Yes. It's often your first time seeing
it and it hasn't been like color
corrected or anything and so you're just
like
>> why do I look like that?
>> I guess I'm 100 years old. Like it just
it's seeing your face for the first time
in a thing that isn't finished
>> and you have to record new stuff and
it's br and it's brutal.
>> It's brutal. I always I used to call my
mom crying afterward. Mama looks so
ugly.
>> She was like go across the street to the
>> theater. [laughter] You are okay. You
are not the character. You serve the
character.
>> Your mom is really good and calming.
>> Yeah. She's the one.
>> When you were at Yale, was there anyone
else there that we would know at the
time? But were you Who were you? Who
else was there?
>> When I was there, when I was a second
year, Lupita was a first year. Then
after Lupita was Winston Duke, then
after that was I could be mixing this up
cuz I was now gone, but was then Yaya.
>> Then after that was Mama Duke. Like it
just was
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> That's intense.
>> That's intense. Mhm.
>> And then you go and you go from that to
talk about training being put to the
test. You have to open Ghost on in the
West End with about a week of rehearsal.
>> Yeah. Which made no sense. So, um I was
when I graduated I got an agent and like
you know I got to have a survival job.
Yeah. So, uh, I applied everywhere in
New York City and that little Yale
degree, even though it's in theater,
people were like, "You're
overqualified." No. [laughter] And I was
like, but it was
>> you know more than the director and that
upsets him.
>> Yeah. And so I couldn't get any job. And
so I was like, "Okay, I'm going to
nanny." So I nannied for this amazing
family and it was amazing because I
worked the system
>> cuz I was broke. And I said, "Listen, as
a curator of arts, your children need to
go to fivestar hotels and experience
what that is like [laughter]
dessert and really nice places and we
need to teach them how to eat [laughter]
at a five literally." And they were
like, "Okay." And literally, can you
imagine two little white boys and me
like at a table and THEY'RE LIKE, "MR.
CUZ JUST IN CASE THEIR FRIENDS ARE HERE
WATCHING, I got to make this look
credible.
>> That's so smart.
>> Oh, it was so much fun.
>> So smart. And then you go,
>> I love that job.
>> How do you get the job?
>> So they were like, oh, this is an
audition for the like understudy,
understudy, a swing. And so they were
like, you'll if you get this, you'll
rarely go on. No big deal. I go in there
because I'm young and I had never
auditioned for anything before. Those
people told me, "So, you're going to do
the entire thing?"
>> They made me audition for 75%
of that musical.
>> Wow.
>> In the room. Like, I had my sides and
then they were like, "Here,
>> here's more."
>> Cold Reed.
>> Wow.
>> 75% of the musical.
>> And you nailed it.
>> It was just adrenaline.
>> Yes.
>> But one thing that was a blessing and a
curse, I was on a high. Like my body was
just
I Speaking of belting high, baby, I
belted high that day. Uh-oh.
>> Then [laughter] they wrote it
because it was an original musical. SO
THEY WERE LIKE, "OH, she wants A BELT
AND A HALF.
>> Never be good at something you don't
want to do. [laughter]
>> Pace yourself." Cuz eight shows a night
and they basically up there. I was like,
"No, we're going to have to bring it
down." So I did that audition in like
August. I didn't hear anything for two
days. I'm not thinking about it. It's
the understudies, understudy,
understudy. My team then hits me up and
like, "You booked." And I'm like, "Oh,
okay, cool." And I was bummed because I
was like, "I got to tell these kids. I
got to leave them." [clears throat]
>> And my team was like, "Are you crazy?"
It was the lifestyle. I was saying
goodbye to the lifestyle. And [laughter]
so they literally they were like days
later. They're like, "Why are you not
more excited, my team?" And I was like,
"It cuz you it's just whatever. Like if
everyone gets sick, then maybe I'll go
on." They were like, "Yeah, we lied. Um,
you are playing Whoopi Goldberg's part."
And I was like, "Come on, what? Why
would you do this?" So then I'm
terrified. And it was literally the like
the Tuesday before Thanksgiving. And so
I had never done a job of that
magnitude, but I had never done a like
seasonal job. Yeah.
>> And I really love the holidays. So I
started crying and I was like, "But do I
get to spend Thanksgiving with my
parents?" And you know, agents, are you
done? [laughter] You made it. YOU'RE
GOING TO
>> you've worked with so many great people
and you talk about them a lot and you
talk about Robin Williams
>> and I
>> I can't believe that was my first movie.
>> That's amazing. And
>> I cannot believe that sadly that was my
first movie and that was his last movie.
I cannot believe it.
>> What was it like to be with him?
>> So grateful.
>> There's something that I notice in
legendary comedians specifically.
Robin had it.
Eddie had it. I had that experience.
It's different, but they have a similar
trait. Eddie shows up in Steve Martin
for sure. Martin Short. And there's this
thing when we talk about when people tap
me on my shoulder and be like, "Hey,
>> and I never would think it would be
those people." In my mind growing up, I
thought, you know, like they either
really stay to themselves or they're
distant or like
>> their egos won't ever give you the
satisfaction. And Robin was the complete
opposite. And he actually talked to me
more than anybody else. We just talked
for we I literally just sat there and
listened to everything that that man
said to me. And I will even in the
moment while he was talking to me, I was
like,
>> "This is crazy. No one's going to
believe you, so don't even tell anyone."
Like maybe later you can share a great
anecdote. But
>> it was unbelievable. And he just poured
into me
>> and it would just be like in between the
takes.
>> He would just be like and then, you
know, immediately just
>> go into
>> this thing. But yeah, he would, if I
would say career-wise, he was the first
person
>> that was like,
>> you've got it.
>> What an anointing from someone like
that. And then you worked with Eddie on
Dolomite and and and same thing. Eddie
really took you under his wing.
>> He really did. He really did. And
something that was interesting so like
difference is Robin was so explosive. It
felt like I when people ask the only
thing I can think of is like you know
how in pinstation
the ticker thing.
>> Yeah. It's like you can't his thoughts
are so loud when he's not talking that
even when you stand next to him, it's
like and I'm just like I can feel like
almost like having coffee like you just
feel this buzz being next to him and
just was like
um
>> and with Eddie something that I learned
>> and it was interesting to work with him
at that stage of his life and that point
of his career, there is a stillness
>> and a quietness when he's not working or
in between scenes and then there's the
action and this whole thing comes to
life.
>> Yeah.
>> And it was something that in the first
again supporting actor being like, "Oh,
okay. This is your rhythm and this is
how you work that I then like adjusted
and then I was like, okay, so I'm not
>> Well, that feels like your musical
training comes in there cuz you're
picking exactly what you said, rhythm
and breath and energy, like the dynamics
>> 100% of the day. The the rhythm is the
biggest thing I think especially with
comedy and especially with legends at
that right you want to learn quickly not
ask any questions and observe and like
feels like jump rope of like I'm jumping
in and I'm jumping out you know what I
mean learning that kind of pacing and
but it was after
um that he really kind of prepared me
for the industry in that when we did
prep like we had a full-blown own press
tour and he was like, "She's come
whatever I'm going to, she's coming to
all of it." And so like
>> 100% it prepared me for holdovers. I
think if I didn't have that, I would be
like, "What is this crazy machine of of
things?" And so in a more chill way, I
got to experience it. I got to see what
insane fame
>> looks like.
>> Yeah.
>> Which is scary to me.
>> Yeah.
>> That's really intense.
>> Get ready for it. Sorry. But no, I You
you mentioned the holdovers. It I just
have to to say to you that film.
>> Thanks.
>> It it is in it is now forever in
rotation in as a Christmas film
>> because not only is it beautifully acted
and beautifully directed by Alexander
Payne and
>> Paul Giamotti and Dominic. They're
amazing. You're the three of you
together are just it's
>> but it also captures this melancholy.
Like you say, you love the holidays and
>> it's this holiday salty, sweet, sour
sadness that happens to all of us where
>> all of us. Even if you have a house full
of people or whatever you consider like
>> a traditional happy Christmas
>> cuz like the loneliness finds its way in
>> every time. I know. Even with a full
house, the way you depicted that mother
in that movie is one of my favorite
cinematic performances. I love you in
that movie. Congratulations on winning
the Academy Award.
>> Thanks, babes. [laughter]
>> And um so deserved.
>> Thank you.
>> And just so first of all, Paul Giamotti,
>> love him. Always loved him. Always loved
him. And like similarly, he's so good at
so many things.
>> Yeah, he is.
>> He's really good at playing like that
underdog that can't quite figure it out
and just like keeps hitting their head
against the I He's so good.
>> I had a fun moment when he hosted SNL
when I was there and you know, you're
like down under the um bleachers like
changing clothes really fast. And at one
point I turned to him and I was like,
"Are you having fun?" And he was like,
"THIS IS A NIGHTMARE."
>> YEAH. Inside [laughter]
everything is painful and he's dying
inside. So funny.
>> Yeah. even while we're filming and I'M
LIKE, "WOW, WE'RE REALLY DOING IT." He's
like, "I hate it." Not he hates like
acting, but do you know what I mean?
Like
>> that's why he's so funny.
>> That's why he's so good at it
>> because he doesn't
>> he'll put himself in like risky like
inside his anxiety is through the roof.
>> YES. AND AND WE FEEL IT. We feel it with
him. And the the the trio of you three
like unexpected friends like you know
like a random family.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> So good. What kind of prep did you do
for that role?
>> So it was interesting when because I
love cooking.
>> Um I was like uh so listen contractually
I have to cook for real
>> and for many reasons and due to that
time period I wanted it to be clear that
this was actually her job
>> and that she was good at it versus like
I I first asked Alexander I said
>> is she the help or is she a learned
chef? and he was like, "I actually want
her to be a learned." He said, "Cook."
And I said, "We're not going to say that
word. We're going to say chef.
>> If you're saying she has an education in
it, she's a chef."
>> Um, and so
>> once I knew that's where he was going
with it, I was like, "Okay, so then
you're going to have to establish scenes
and moments where I'm dealing with the
food and facilitating the kitchen to
show my um prow over this area."
>> Yeah.
>> Right. And so and I remember there was
like there was and he was so down which
was so cool for someone that acclaimed
and lauded to have that much flexibility
and collaboration which I think is
another huge reason why that movie just
did so well because he trusted us
>> and we really got to work together. And
so, like, there was a moment where I was
like, you know, to be honest, he had a
lineup of extras for people that were
going to be in my kitchen, and they were
all women of color. And I was like,
you're going to have to put some white
ladies in there, too. And he was like,
"Really? Why?" And I said, "Because it
>> the other ones look like it's my friends
>> that I just brought in." And then this
other version makes it again look like,
"Oh, no. I'm in charge and these are the
cooks." So I adlib this line in the
movie where I'm like to the white lady
too much paprika [laughter] cuz in my
mind I was like no no no she can taste
it and be like
>> too much paprika cuz I wanted to show a
lot of it had to do with the time period
that I was like I want if you're saying
she's a chef I don't want those lines to
be blurred but in regards to prep the
the f the thing that Alexander was the
most
>> Thank you for sharing that with me. I
just have to say totally just to take a
minute. I love knowing that because
you're ex I couldn't capture
>> the what you're exactly what you're
saying which is a
>> there's a regalness to her.
>> Yes. There's a pride.
>> Yes. Even if that lady has two cents in
her pocket, which is another thing cuz
he understandably uh he wanted her to be
in hot pink rollers and that cozy warm
purple moo
>> the entire most of the movie
>> cuz he was like it's the holidays and I
was like no she has so much she's
working.
>> Yes,
>> she may be you know they might be in
like living shared living quarters but
she's working. she wakes up, this is her
job. And so it was something that he we
had to like negotiate for him to realize
>> no this isn't just auntie with the you
know what I mean with uncle Buck and
whatever.
>> It gives such incredible um tension
>> because that is her space and in the
scene when she's serving and when when
she she when everyone is eating her food
that she's good at cooking and um Paul's
character standing up for her and like
>> it's beautiful. That's one of my
favorite moments.
>> Same.
>> Yeah. And it's just a look. She just
looks at the kid.
>> Yes.
>> But she But you know, the volume in
which Paul yelled, she heard it.
>> Yes.
>> And you know what I mean? Like she
wasn't there for it, but she heard that
he had his back. And so the main prep
was uh Alexander was very keen on
smoking. It was almost like an audition
question. Do you smoke? And I was like,
"No, I don't." And he was like, and I
was like, you can send a pack on over
and we can figure it out. [laughter]
Part of the prep was learning how to
smoke, making it look realistic. I It
was great that I was in Boston. There's
so many smokers in Boston, but I would
just [laughter]
watch like there is a science. You can
tell the level of addiction or how many
years. I'm not going to say addiction.
Level
>> addiction. Let's say it.
>> How long you've been in the game.
>> Ooh. Tell me what you noticed about how
people looser, the more that it feels
like it is literally another finger,
they've been doing it for a while.
>> Right.
>> Right. Or like the person is usually
like older men
>> that like it's hanging. How? I don't
even know. It's like that one beat of
saliva.
>> So, right. Because a person that has
their like one cigarette a week, it's
tight and they're like enjoying every
minute. I'm I'm thinking about like the
girls outside the club like buming it
from someone else and and but someone
who's like, "Oh, there's a hundred more
where that came from. It'll fall out.
They like it. I'm going to light another
one right away."
>> Yeah. And so part of my process was
like,
>> so interesting.
>> What's her level of addiction and in
certain
>> times and what she's going through, I
wanted the the smoking to signify what
like psychologically was going on for
her. So, and then the big the biggest
most difficult the two difficult things
most difficult things about filming and
smoking timing of knowing when to like
how to pace of the between the talking
and when to pull,
>> right?
>> Um,
>> yeah.
>> And blowing that smoke so it's not in
your face for the camera unless there's
some moments where you want it to get in
or not like directing that smoke was
tricky.
I cannot I'm I'm I'm gonna be
re-watching this movie again. That was
the hardest part and I'm gonna watch all
of it literally we could have a
beautifully acted scene
>> and be like that smoke went in Paul's
pace Paul's face. Do it again. And then
the last thing was the dialect which he
was like
it was fine. He was like you're from
Philadelphia. It's cool. And I was like
>> Alexander
>> respectfully
>> respectfully how dare you.
>> No sir. And he was adamant about it. And
you worked I can tell cuz it was so
good.
>> Yeah. I went with Nicole Kimman's
dialect coach
>> who's the best and so down to earth but
yeah I said no no no no no more so for
me
>> like we said I'm from Philadelphia. It
it's so close but yet it's not the same
thing. And also it was technically it's
a period piece. And so the biggest
reason why I wanted to do the dialect
not only because that is what is the
world. I needed something to
differentiate and to separate from me.
>> Yeah.
>> And so, um, Right. I needed that
dialect. The smoking, yeah, clothes
helps, the hair helped a lot, but the
dialect was the thing that really
allowed me to lock in.
>> Were there words that helped you lock
in? Like
>> Mr. H, what was his name? Ha. Hav
Mr. Hunnham. I heard you at that first
scene.
>> Mr. Hum
>> when they meet and then she's like, "Mr.
Hunham," I'm paraphrasing. She's like,
"Mr. Hunum, I heard you had babysitting
duty. How'd you manage that?" And that
was like my key phrase.
>> Yes.
>> That I would I could get right in.
>> Babysitting
babysitting. How'd you manage that? What
was helpful was the crew was all Boston.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> So, I would literally
>> They're like,
>> "Yeah, no shame." I was like, "Did I say
that right?"
>> Like, you didn't get it. Cuz the Boston
in me, you know, is our ears are
attuned. It's to me it's like the
Australian accent is like you when it's
wrong it is rough.
>> Yeah. And so what I basically said to
myself is I I worked on it and prepped
it a lot and I told myself you're going
to have the first day of filming. If you
get a lot of feedback on this dialect
either being distracting or too much or
not right, we're going to leave it
alone.
>> Yeah. Smart.
>> And and and
>> smart.
>> Yeah. It worked. And I was like, "Okay."
But in between still, I literally in
between takes the gaffer, I'm like, "Is
it smart? Sm" and they be like, "SM."
And I'm like, "Okay, smart, smart,
smart."
>> Speaking of films, we're talking about
Eternity, the romcom that you're in with
the hilarious John Early, who we love.
>> I think he was one of the last people
that they cast. And I knew from the
script that I would have quite a bit of
stuff with this character. And I kept
saying who I kind of didn't want to sign
on the dotted line until I knew who that
person was. and it just didn't work out
that way. And I never forget, we were um
in like what do they call it? Camera
testing. We were camera testing and I
was ear hustling and I heard them say
and I GO, "AH,
>> YES." AND THEY were like, "What is
wrong?" And I'm like, "Oh, my job just
got way better."
>> So funny.
>> Easy. Really easy.
>> You guys are great together. He
has
the stuff that's up there in that brain.
>> Mhm. [laughter]
>> And it's so much. Do you know? You
obviously know what I mean. And you know
what I was a little worried about? Cuz
he's so so good that I was like, "Oh,
he's going to be doing the button
thing." You know the button thing when
you're around funny hahas
>> and it's like the scene is done and now
every funny person in that room is like
and then that person goes back and I'm
like wow
>> oh my god I've never heard it said like
that that's I'm really I'm really
sweating because I I so it's infectious
so right though there's an instinct for
comedy people to be like and one more
thing
>> button button button [laughter] now
person A's got to second button seen. I
feel seen
>> and then it goes and it just go and my
always I'm like
[laughter]
>> very present but and that's usually when
the camera cuts to me.
>> Oh, that's so real. And you're right.
And then once someone does a button,
someone's like, I got to button that
button
>> and it never ends.
>> I just sit there. [laughter]
>> But yeah, he didn't have any of that.
>> Yeah.
>> But so I don't think he ever repeated a
joke. And I'm just so so impressed by
him.
>> What is your relationship to romcoms?
What romcoms? Are you a romcom person?
Do you like romcoms?
>> I was when I was in high school, what I
feel like was Let me tell you something.
How was a guy in 10 days?
>> Oh, yeah.
>> It's perfect.
>> And if you tell me different, I'll fight
you. That
>> I like how you whispered that
>> best cuz it's so funny.
>> It's so emotional,
baby. that scene when they're OUT IN
STATEN ISLAND IN LONG ISLAND PLAYING
THAT CARD GAME. I'M balling [laughter]
>> cuz you're really making me want to
watch that again. So,
>> and I like it too because it's like it's
a relatable New York couple. You know,
some of those New York romcoms you're
LIKE, "WELL, I'M NEVER GOING TO BE IN
THAT PENTHOUSE." SO,
>> or the boss and the I love how it was
like they were regular New Yorkers. Um,
and that like Staten Island, I forget
which one it is. Stat line Long Island
uh family was a really good touch. Um my
best friend's wedding.
>> Yes.
>> It's so good. I think it's the ones that
are really relatable.
>> I know. And and and and they just dig in
in some like they're like rainy day
delicious treats.
>> Yeah.
>> And Okay. So, we have this thing where
we talk to people who know our guest. We
talk well behind their back.
>> We get a question for them. So, we
talked to the director of fraternity,
David Fra, and we got to talk about how
incredible it was working with you. And
he and he was explaining which I'm I'm
now getting to see in real time the
feeling of there was like a there's a
calmness to you when you work
>> and a confidence
>> that is he says like it just as a
director just makes you feel like
everything is going to work out like
every you know
>> oh that's and he he had two questions
for you. One was
>> where do you think you find the calm or
as he said the cam? Yeah, the C.
>> He had a great to find the C.
>> But um the um so that was his first
question is like is that true? Are are
you feeling like when you step and work
that there's a calmness to you? Is do
people project that on you? Is that
real? What
>> I think it's um uh how do I say it's a
little projected. It's all of it. Right.
So number one, yes. It's part of that
like preparing to then like have so much
fun like right like within the
boundaries like I know I did the work.
Yeah.
>> But then I'm very open to what is the
direction? What are you giving me? What
you know I mean what is it going to be
in this? I know her.
>> Um and you could tell me we're going to
go on Mars. Great. We're going on Mars.
What's that going to be?
>> So there's that. There's also too I'm
very well aware of like it's interesting
how leads speak of like their role of
leadership and da da da. I am aware that
part of my role is to not say anything
out loud but to reassure and to like um
nurture a little but like create a
foundation.
>> That's really interesting
>> as Yeah.
>> Um not to name drop but I will I've been
name dropping a lot today. Um, Gwyneith
Paltro was in the seat and she I she
said something that I thought was really
interesting which is
>> you know we were talking in terms of
like codependency and trying to figure
out and when you're in a supporting role
in any aspect of life you have to
balance what you talked about which is
>> knowing what is needed for the room and
she used the term thermometer like is
the room too hot do I need same with
every scene that's a giving supportive
collaborative person and then also
taking care of yourself.
>> That's right.
>> It's a It's a hard balance.
>> Mhm. And I think I've gotten really good
at that. And I think that's also why
I've been able to work with the type of
people I've gotten to work with because
I think it's that mixed in with they
then feel a reassurance to then be them
their bestelves.
>> Yeah.
>> Right. And so then I'll have like It's
so cute and I can't believe I'm even
saying this. Steve Martin will literally
be like because I normally when I film
for Only Murders, they're so kind and
with my schedule, they allow me to like
shoot out. So, I'm doing like in two
weeks like five episodes. And so, we get
like this kind of like intense
>> two weeks with one another and and then
I'll be like gone for a year and then
we'll catch up for like press and then
do the next year. And he always is like,
"God, I forgot about this. Feels good.
I'm feeling good." And that [laughter]
to me is the greatest greatest
compliment that I can think of. And so
>> yeah,
>> I think it is a bit of that. And then I
think also
there is like
I do still suffer with imposttor
syndrome
>> in this format
>> like when we have to talk about it
>> but I don't when we're doing it if that
makes sense. But it's a but it's but
it's a quiet maybe that's what we mean
about that calmness reassuredness. It's
a quiet confidence.
>> Yeah.
>> But also at the same time there's a lot
of adrenaline and excitement buzzing
through me. And do you ever find
sometimes when you perform this kind of
like sometimes I'll have this moment of
like zoom in zoom out where I'm like
kind of up overhead.
>> Yeah. Dissociating.
>> Yeah. [laughter]
>> It's great. I highly recommend it.
>> I love it.
>> You're like I'm on the ceiling babe.
Nothing can touch me.
>> Nope. I'm not here
>> and we're doing it.
>> I wasn't even there.
>> Yeah. Yeah. And I have that sometimes.
>> Me, too. And when I'm performing and
it's and it's a um what you're saying is
like a technique to get past Exactly
what you said, the fear and adrenaline.
And I don't know if you're like this,
but I can get nervous after I do
something like I get through it and then
like an hour later I'm like,
>> "Yeah, did we do it? Did we?"
>> And it all starts to shake out because
Yeah. I wasn't really there.
>> Yeah.
>> I want to finish with a very quick speed
round. if you can give me a sentence or
two about this about some of these
people or things.
>> Sure. Sure. Sure.
>> And number one is Zoe Kraitz.
>> The best. And I knew she was extremely
talented when I first met her. She was
an executive producer. I think that was
her first executive producer role. And
she went above and beyond. And so when
she began starting to direct, I was
like, "Duh, we saw that." I remember one
time she literally and it was so cool
cuz we were the same age. We're like the
youngest people on set and she was
literally like it was a coffee cup. We
were doing a scene in a bodega and it
was a coffee cup and she was like that's
not what real coffee cups look like
>> in New York like why is it I think it
was like red and you know supposed to
like be blue with the blue and the white
and they were like no Zo cuz we're young
and she's a woman. So they're like no no
Zoe it's fine. And she's like, "No, no,
get it right and we'll wait in a very
polite but professional and stern way."
And I was like, "She's got it."
>> Okay. Speed round.
>> Yeah. I'm talking monologue.
>> Aluccino.
>> Yeah. So, Aluccino, I was You're getting
good ones and you're like, "Speed
round." [laughter] Aluccino
on Broadway, stressed out, voice tired,
eating soup in like this little French
beastro. He randomly is there. Uh he
goes to check out and he backs back and
like comes and sits down at my table and
we have this like beautiful heartfelt
thing and I share with a stranger like
it's really hard. I can't talk like you
know I mean I have no life the amount
that is required for this. Um, and he
gave me the most beautiful advice ever.
And he used this metaphor of a ladder
and said like, as you continue to go up
a ladder, you have to let go of more and
more weight and kind of was like, it's
na what you're feeling is natural.
Another moment of someone being like,
you've got it, keep going. And it was
like, I'll see you at the top of the
ladder. Cut two. We do Dolomite. Netflix
decides they're now gonna start doing
magazines, like their own magazines.
We get to the shoot and there's a ladder
there and I'm like, "Oh my god, oh my
god." Cuz I knew he was going to be in
this shoot cuz it was like the Irishman
all and I was like, "Yo, if they put me
on THIS LADDER, [laughter] I'M LOSING."
And they're like placing everyone.
[gasps]
>> So they place Al.
>> He's next to the ladder. And I said,
"Please, please, please." cuz he's still
got to put like Laura Durn and Scarlett
Johansson. So I was like, "Yo, I want
the ladder." And [laughter] they put me
in the ladder. I'm balling the entire
photo shoot. And I'm like looking down
at him and I'm like, "How do you
remember the letter?"
>> Did you ask him? And did he?
>> No. Why would he [laughter] remember the
But I'm like, "It's the
all right honey." Like whatever. But in
my mind, I was like full circle. I'm on
the ladder and I'm looking at you and
you said it was going to happen.
>> Oh my god. The perfect story. And then
Steven Sonheim,
>> I miss him. I know that sounds so crazy,
>> doesn't it?
>> But it's like he was like the modern.
>> He Okay, sometimes that musical theater
stuff is a lot for me. Like I was never
kid. I was like [laughter]
but cuz I came into it late and I just
like well I'm a vocalist and this is
theater and I had to like find my way
into musicals which is funny that my
first gig was a musical but I just vibed
with him so much because it felt like
strong story
>> really good acting and we just so
happened to sing beautiful songs. To me,
it's like the purest for me and my
taste, one of the purest ways of
expressing musical theater. And in
college, we did Into the Woods and I
played the witch.
>> Oh.
>> And I was like, "Okay, I think I like
this stuff."
>> Can you sing a little bit of it,
>> girl? I sound so crazy.
>> You don't? You sound so crazy. This is
>> Wait, but what's the song when she's
like,
>> "Sing a little Steven." Anything from
Steven.
>> What is the one? The one that the witch
>> want me to get it on my laptop?
>> But what? I'm going to look up the
lyrics. This is crazy. I sing for Nova
>> and I'm going to order that William
Soba.
>> Please do it. Please do it. [laughter]
Please order immediately.
>> I'm not kidding you. I thought about it
the entire time. You guys, you didn't
see it, but it has a wooden bowl
>> with a hunter green
>> and the hopper. Okay. Um Um What are we
looking up?
>> Where are the clones?
Sending the clones.
Tinks, babe. [screaming]
That is
>> only for you. Literally.
>> Thank you. Thank you.
>> For years.
>> Oh. Oh,
>> no. Years.
>> Okay. I appreciate you.
>> I appreciate you.
>> And um the the world like needs to hear
your voice.
>> Oh, I know. I got to work through the
stuff. And so that's why I'm going to
figure out
I think honestly I talk about this a
little bit but I think honestly um
because the classical thing like I feel
like there's a lot of people that can
like sing like pop and R&B but I do feel
like that's like one of my special
little tricks like you said how singing
is a trick but like classical I think I
want to do a biopic on Le and Team Price
>> and just like okay we're doing it.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Break the band-aid off.
>> Back into singing listen everybody
listening. Let's make that happen.
>> Yeah. God, that would be amazing.
>> I think that'd be fun.
>> And then our my last question is because
you're so funny
>> times and times are stressful. We ask a
lot of our guests
>> um what they listen to, read, go to to
laugh. What like is there anything right
now that you're watching, consuming
like a vid, like a dumb video, a TV
show? What's
>> really makes me I did a podcast with
Royal Court. Oh, Britney,
>> I to the point where [snorts] I had to
tell my publicist like
>> go back and take some things cuz I just
felt so comfortable and we were just
>> I saw you on that and you guys were
hilarious.
>> We were cracking up and I was like, "Oh,
she's God." So, I think what her podcast
is giving people right now is really,
really nice. I watch a lot of old stuff.
I don't Do you Are you like that? Do you
sometimes sometimes I'm like I don't
want to be
>> tainted or like watchd jokes and
>> in fact I mean one of the reasons why
the the kind of intention behind this
podcast is to me the way for my own
mental health was like feeling like
chatting and laughing with people
>> connection was getting me up out of
things
>> but the actual like watching comedy at
home and like sometimes it feels like if
it's good I'm like damn
>> I can't because I'm judging it.
>> I can't watch contemporary stuff cuz I'm
like my friend's in that. Her hair looks
crazy. You know what I mean? Like why
did they do So I like to watch older
things and so I mean you can't beat a
'90s com which I feel like is a lot of
stuff that you've done, but like a '9s
comedy is just so good.
>> Like what what would you put on like to
like run as you were like are you
talking friends? Are you talking
>> I love Rush Hour. Yes, it that's a one
of one of the best buddy duos that you
would never think of and it is oh so
good.
>> Let's watch a rush hour scene for you.
>> What scene?
>> Um,
>> they don't give a damn about you. They
don't like you. I don't like [laughter]
you.
>> I'm here for the girl.
>> The girl don't like you. Nobody likes
you. You came all be for nothing.
>> [laughter]
>> And isn't it funny how people get so
like you touch the radio? This is not
even your car. Don't touch the radio.
>> I mean, also I love when people are give
it to give it to somebody straight and
they're like, I don't like you. It
really makes me laugh.
>> Nobody gets to say that in real life.
You never get to say comedy lets you say
stuff you could never say.
>> Yeah. Just dead pants.
>> Like I don't like you. She doesn't like
you.
>> [laughter]
>> just not into you. Sorry.
>> Well, Davine, I love you and I think we
should be friends.
>> Yes, please.
>> And I think we should buy um various
things together.
>> I'm going to give you my number. I want
you to text me when you get the mixer.
>> Great.
>> I think you should get a Just get one of
the pots.
>> I got to get all the box.
>> Okay, good. That's what I was hoping
for.
>> And then like when you cook something in
there, text it to me and I'm going to
text it to you, too. Yes.
>> I mean, what are we Why are we working
so hard if we can't buy ourselves
discounted copper pots?
>> Mhm. Black Friday sale. We deserve it in
this economy.
>> We saw what the price used to be.
>> Why would you? It's the But it's that
red ink that you speak about. There's
that urgency of [laughter]
>> There's only five.
>> Such a lie. It gets me five left.
>> There's 50,000 [laughter] in inventory
in the back. Yeah. But I'mma get it and
I'mma go pick it up. Um, do you have
pasta thingies?
>> Pasta what thingy? Which which thing?
>> Like, so when you get that, you can then
also for I think it's like $99.99
get the attachment heads to then make
fresh pasta.
>> What?
>> A pasta making machine or the thing?
>> So, you get the Kitchen.
>> Thank you for coming. We're going to get
[laughter]
end this podcast and we're going to go
shopping.
>> Kitchen made. You just take the head off
and then attach the pasta different
things on. So you could do the one where
it's like so lasagna then taste that off
macaroni and then you got endless
possibilities.
>> I've never made pasta and I've always
wanted to. I'm going to do it because
>> I will do it with you.
>> Yeah, I would love to. Let's do it.
>> Mhm.
>> Let's hire a guy
>> just to [laughter] super.
>> Thank you so much, Davine Joy Randolph.
you are so fun and uh I love talking to
you and and um it I'm so blown away by
your talent and your training and um so
thanks for joining me on the pod. And
speaking of talent and training, I just
want to use this polar plunge because we
were talking a little bit about
Shakespeare and there's a person that I
discovered in my phone where I discover
everything, read everything and learn
everything. um a a a performer named
Michelle Terry and um she is I believe
she ran uh uh the Shakespeare uh Globe
Theater or member of the Royal
Shakespeare Company um and then Royal
National Theater. She performed at all
those places. She's really good. She's a
really good actress. She uh is a person
who continually amazes me and translates
Shakespeare to me in a way that feels
like no one has for me. So, I don't know
if you're on your phone right now and
you want to type her name in. Uh and
you're going to see videos of her
playing Hamlet and Richard III.
Incredible. Okay, so if you never liked
Shakespeare before, Michelle Terry is
going to get you there. Um so that's my
plunge. Thank you um uh for listening
and uh see you next time. Bye.
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