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Hello everyone and welcome to another
episode of Good Hang. We have Andrew
Garfield on today. Andrew is just the
best, a real tenderoni and hilarious and
talented and and and star of film and
Broadway. And we are going to get into
so many things today. We're going to
talk about how Munich has the best felt.
We're gonna talk about having that
competitive spirit, especially when it
comes to board games. We're gonna talk
about being method, but not being a
jerk. And we're gonna talk about his new
movie, The Uprising, which is out now
and looks incredible, like all the stuff
that Andrew does. So, um, we're very,
very excited to get started, but we
always start our episodes by speaking to
somebody who knows our guest, who has
worked with our guest, has good things
to say about our guest behind their
back. And we're gonna talk to a legend,
Lynn Manuel Miranda. You know him from,
oh, I don't know, Hamilton and uh Moana
and the upcoming Warriors musical and
five other million things that he's won
10 EGOTs for. Lynn,
hi.
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>> Lynn.
>> Hi.
>> Hi.
I can't wait to get you into the stew.
>> Can I tell you I had a I had a nightmare
about that once.
>> You did?
>> I had a nightmare that like uh you
invited me on, but you didn't I could
tell you didn't really want me to be on.
Like someone had you and you were like,
"Come in, I guess." Oh,
>> that's making me nauseous.
>> Very unenthusiastic about it. You're
[laughter] like, uh, sit down, I guess.
And it wasn't your usual set. It was
just like some apartment where I was
like I was like a pity guest.
>> Oh, that's giving everybody the chills
in here. [laughter]
So, that is a that is a proper stress
dream.
>> Woke up in a sweat. [laughter]
I can handle a lot of things. I cannot
handle not being a good hang with you.
>> My god, I'm so sorry that I was that way
in your dream. in real life and we are
awake and I can't wait to get you in
here. I am such a fan of your work. Love
would love to talk to you and would be
so happy to be talking to you.
>> Oh my goodness gracious.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. And so happy to be
talking to you today. Where are it looks
like you're in some kind of studio.
There's a piano behind you.
>> Yes. We uh we are in day two of our
workshop for uh our next musical
>> Warrior.
[laughter]
come out to play EA.
>> That's the one. Um, so Issa Davis and I
are here uh in the room. There are
actors learning songs in the next room.
>> There must be no better feeling than
like working with the piano and like
hearing people sing in the other room
and just the workshopping of it all.
>> Yeah. Well, it's the it's the thing of
like other people. You get the solitude
of writing and then you also get to like
bring in a song and then people who sing
much better than you sound beautiful on
it and it's it's you know I had so much
fun with your episode with Grath who is
also like one of my closest friends
because just the joy off him is like
we're in the play. We get to be in the
school play and and we're all still
chasing that high as adults. Well, I
feel that way um you know uh about you,
Lynn. Like I feel I know that everybody
that works with you feels that way. Like
you're such a collaborator. You love the
process. You love making things better.
You know, you know, letting the best
idea win. Like you can feel that. And
also you're a fan. Um like you've never
stopped being a fan of the thing that
you're doing.
>> Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it is I
mean it's why I had so much fun when I
was on SNL. was it's it's the school
play on steroids. [laughter] It's like a
supercharged version of the the the
thing that got me hooked on this art
form of like we we get to make it like
and we get to make something bigger than
any of us could make alone, I think, is
is the big thing.
>> Yes. So well said. So well said. Um and
and you got to work with sweet Andrew
Garfield.
>> Sweet sweet Andrew Garfield.
>> First of all, congratulations on Tic Tac
Boom. What a beautiful film. It makes my
life that you even know what that is and
have seen it.
>> Of course. I loved the performance.
Loved your direction. What incredible
cast like can we talk about it just for
a second because I know it you know it
was it's personal material. Well, it's
also about a person's life who and and
Andrew is kind of actor who's played a
lot of real people as I've been looking
at his career and like could you imagine
even a a a more considerate and nicer
person to like take somebody's real life
into their hands? But can you just tell
me how did you guys come together to
make that? How did that uh how did that
happen?
>> Sure. I um I you know most of my um
familiarity with Andrew's work was
actually theater. like I was lucky
enough to see him in Death of a Salesman
with Philip Seymour Hoffman. Um, and he
was unreal in that. And then I uh I saw
him in Angels in America, both parts,
which is like it's a day, it's your day.
You [laughter] know, you go to the mat
to see part one, you eat dinner, you see
part two. They're both three hours long.
Um, and I didn't know whether he had a
musical bone in his body, but it's such
an endurance test that play. And he was
so magnificent in it that I was just
like, "This guy can do anything." I just
thought, I don't know if he can sing,
but I think he can do anything.
[laughter]
>> Yeah.
>> Andrew and I had like exchanged an email
or two in our lives. He was a fan of
Hamilton. And so I um I said, "Can we go
out to like dinner before uh your
performance?" He was he was doing Angels
uh in on Broadway at the time. And I
took him out to sushi and I told him
about the movie we were working on and I
said, "Can you sing?" And he said, "Um,
when are you making this?" And I go,
"Not for a year." And he goes, "Then I
can sing."
>> Amazing.
>> And I [laughter] was like, "Oh my god,
I'm just going to learn." Well, that
well that's kind of like the theme of
what I want to talk to him about today
is like he works very hard. He's a
really hard worker and takes I think a
lot of um pride in that.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. He he wants the
work. He wants the the discipline and
like you have to be a monk to do eight
shows a week. Like you actually have to
like know when you're eating, know
exactly what you're putting in your body
so that you are at your peak at 700 p.m.
800 PM that night. He has played a monk.
>> [laughter]
>> and and like live like lives it like he
truly lives it
>> and you know how I feel about Broadway
absolutely too many shows I I've said
this
>> well to quote you in wed hot American
summer theater is now and it's you
[laughter]
>> that is true
>> which I watch maybe once a month I I
[laughter] watch that speech to myself
just
>> very obtuse
yeah makes perfect sense it's now and
it's you
>> yeah I mean you basically played me in
that me at [laughter] 14 in that movie
like guys this is serious
and then you learn well you learn oh no
one wants to work with that person like
your job is to make the most fun room
possible so that people choose doing the
play over basketball over debate team
[laughter]
like no no actually this is the most fun
place to be not guys we're going to work
steps
>> story of my life story of my life which
is just like just chill out. Chill out.
[laughter]
>> Chill out. Just just pump the brakes on
whatever you're saying.
>> Okay. So, um do you have a question you
think I should ask Andrew today?
Anything big, small.
>> Well, my my qu Yeah, my question comes
with a a story, which is that um you
know, famously Andrew like learned to
sing like took a year and then came out
on the other end and was just like an
amazing singer for my movie. And there
was a a sequence we had to shoot that
was a swimming pool scene. Jonathan
Larson like would swim to get his ideas
and he wrote this great stream of
consciousness song and he gets the idea
while he's doing laps. And I, you know,
had three days in the actual pool Larson
swam in in the village and uh, you know,
had a stunt double for all of the like
complicated underwater photography. Had
a special underwater photographer. And
then I found out Andrew is basically
Michael Phelps. Like his dad is a swim
instructor.
>> That's right.
>> And Andrew swam better than my stunt
double. So my question is like one, what
are the other superpowers you have that
a director hasn't tapped yet?
>> Mhm.
>> And and one like what feels
>> like even too much of a challenge? Like
he learned to sing for me. He Martin
Scorsesi like threw him into the wild
[laughter]
like he's he's really taken on some I
think he gets very excited by the
challenges like what's one where what's
what's something that really scares him
that he would still probably do.
>> That's a great question and I think he's
going to love it because I think he's I
think he is very driven exactly by what
you said by the challenge of what to do
next and and uh yeah and I never know
what he's going to do next. It's always
really interesting. I mean that his new
film that's out is about a peasant
revolt.
>> Yeah. And then he goes from that to Sam
Alman. Like it's crazy.
>> I know. Crazy. Um well, Lynn, I loved
talking to you. I I think we're going to
have a very good time and not a scary
dream time when we see each other.
[laughter]
>> Thank you. I appreciate that.
>> And thanks for stepping away.
>> Absolutely. Have fun with Andrew. He's a
lovey lovey love.
>> Okay. Take care. Thanks again.
>> Awesome. Thanks. Bye.
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>> Andrew Garfield is here. We're talking
about smells. Do you feel like you have
a delicate Do you feel like you have a
sensitive nose? [laughter]
Can you smell things?
I do. I feel like I'm a super smeller.
[laughter]
Do not
do not. [laughter]
I bet you I bet you are sensitive to
smells. [laughter]
I If I can't If I can't deal with smell
is my number one my number [laughter]
one sense. I'm the best at it.
[laughter]
>> What do you think is your best of the
five senses? What is your best? What's
my best sense? What's my most
accomplished sense?
>> We've got smell.
>> We've got
>> Remind me of the others.
>> Okay, we've got smell. We've got
hearing.
>> Ah, yep.
>> We've got sight. We've got touch.
And what's the other one? Taste.
>> Oh, yeah. I always forget taste.
[laughter]
>> You got
>> I'm not I'm not going to be humble about
this.
>> Don't be. And
>> I don't And I don't mean to brag at the
same time. I'm kind of trying to be
neutral.
>> I love a brag.
>> I'd say touch.
J. [laughter]
[laughter]
[gasps] This is the BEGINNING OF THE
WORST or the best date ever. [laughter]
But touch. So, do you Okay, let me ask
you a touch question
>> because I enjoy I enjoy I enjoy um I
like how things feel. Like I like the
texture.
>> You're a tactile.
>> I'm a tactile person as well. Yeah.
>> When you're shopping for clothes,
>> do you do what I do, which is you just
you go like this, [laughter] you just go
like this? For real? If it's not soft,
I'm not interested.
[laughter]
>> No.
>> You go. You sniff it and then you touch
>> fabric.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I love?
>> Yes.
>> Can I [laughter] Can I tell you? Can I
tell you anyway?
>> Yes.
Felt.
>> I love felt.
hell.
>> What do we got?
>> Hold on. Stand.
>> Let me see if I can sniff out the felt.
>> I know where the felt is in this room.
I'm like a divining rod for felt.
>> Hold on. Okay. This is We're recording
in New York. I have more felt in LA.
>> But
>> yeah, LA is much more felt.
>> This is a This is a fake cheeseburger.
Open that up.
>> Oh my god.
>> This is a That's a hard felt.
>> It's It's a little hard. It's a little
hard.
>> This felt is not It's not M. It's It's
not Munich felt. I was just in Munich,
you know.
>> I told you I like felt.
>> Say more.
>> There's a There's a Munich Munich is
known for its felt making.
>> Cool.
>> That's all I got.
>> And it has like specific You can tell
>> felt. So, I was I was shooting in
Munich.
>> This is a great podcast story. I was
shooting in Munich.
>> Yes. And uh I didn't have much time on
my hands. I was shooting like intensely.
But the time I did have
>> Yeah.
>> was spent in the felt store.
>> I Were you playing somebody who had to
felt?
>> No, I was playing a peasant.
>> Right. This is this new movie, The
Uprising. [laughter]
>> It's called The Uprising.
>> Um we want to talk about it and I want
to talk about the fact that you are Look
at you. You really do. Like touch is a
very important sense [laughter] for you.
Look at you.
>> I would never lie to you about something
so vital. I sorry, but I just want to
indulge your touch fantasy here, which
is Look at this.
>> What do you got?
>> Another cheese.
>> This feels too hard for me.
>> Yeah. Sorry, that wasn't good.
>> Oo.
>> Give that a squeeze.
>> Oh, that's lovely.
>> That's what she said.
>> That's really lovely.
>> I'm really glad it doesn't squeak.
>> I'm glad it doesn't squeak cuz I'm an
adult. You know what I mean? I
>> You're a mature lady.
>> Mature dog. I don't need a dog toy.
>> I don't need to get excited by sounds in
the way that a dog might.
>> No. There's actually no worse feeling
than when you bring home a toy for a
child or a dog and you realize that it
squeaks. You're like, "Oh,
Why didn't I check that?"
>> Yeah.
>> Um, what's cool about this?
>> YEAH. [laughter]
>> YEAH.
>> What's cool about this?
>> Smell it while you talk about [laughter]
>> Never smelt it. It's not bad.
>> Kind of smells.
>> You know, sometimes these smell like
they come
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> You know,
>> you all know. You all know [laughter]
you guys. You guys know how your fake
cheeseburgers sometimes smell in your
office.
[laughter]
>> You know, um we uh Andrew Garfield is
here. [laughter]
>> We're starting again.
>> That's all the time we have.
>> But you're talking about the uprising. I
want to talk to you about this because
everything I'm Okay. I've been thinking
about my theme for you.
>> Theme?
>> Yeah. About what to talk to you about
today cuz I feel like we could talk
forever and I love talking to you.
>> Me too. And
>> same I love this by the way. What you're
doing here is so beautiful and I'm like
it's about time there's another podcast.
>> Yeah there I know there wasn't enough.
>> Weirdly
like we have room for one more.
[laughter]
>> We just said one more and I was like
>> no but like if anyone should in this
world have a have this room.
>> Thank you for that. It's really fun.
>> Yeah man.
>> Really fun. And I've been paying
attention to as I've been thinking about
and prepping for today about your work
and your life and you and I'm fascinated
by your
>> love of hard work. You just love to work
hard.
>> Yeah, I do.
>> You love it.
>> You do too. [snorts]
>> Yes. But not as much as I used to.
[laughter] That's why I have a podcast.
Maybe sitting down with But your your
work ethic is really something. It's I'm
It's very admirable. I'm I know you you
care like your love language feels like
it's like acts of service. Like you do
things for people, right? I got you. I
got you.
>> Funny. Yes. You were on your own.
>> Like that is how you show your passion
for stuff, your love for people
>> and how you show up in your work. And
you're always working so hard and in
everything you're doing. You're
training. You're starving. You're
learning [laughter] how to sing this new
movie. It looks so hard. [laughter]
Looks so cold and dirty and hard.
And that's all. I just want you to just
take it. I want to talk to you.
>> Take it easy. You want me to take it
easier?
>> No, but I'm I'm really into your
relationship to work cuz I [laughter]
think it's like it's very admirable and
also I think it's funny.
>> It's very um
>> I think it's your way into stuff. Would
you agree?
>> Interesting. Yeah. I mean, you know, I
keep cuz one of my favorite episodes
that you've done is with Cole Escola.
>> It was just heaven. It's a heaven
conversation and just the the running
bit of
>> I just like playing. It's just all It's
all play to me. Like the play is the
thing. [laughter] And like honestly, I'm
just like I can never go on Amy's
podcast cuz I will be the guy actually
saying that for real.
>> I know what you mean.
>> It's really impossible. You guys have
made it impossible to have a serious
conversation about But I think I can
speak for I know you mean but I think I
can speak for myself and I'd like to
speak for Cole.
>> Okay.
>> Uh [laughter] but I'm very interested in
what motivates people like how people
move through the world and that's the
coolest thing about these convos.
>> Yeah.
>> Were you always like a hard worker? Was
what what did work look like in your
house in your family?
>> Yeah. No, it's Yeah.
>> Oh boy.
>> I know. We're going
>> No, I know. I just
>> Do you want to hold something? You want
to touch something? You want to squeeze
something? Is there any felt that's
softer than
>> There's no No, there's no Munich felt.
>> No Munich [laughter] felt in here.
>> I know. It's disgusting studio.
>> Weird.
>> Jenna, get the Munich.
>> Get [laughter] the Bring out the Munich
Bell, Jenna.
>> I So, yes, [laughter] I
>> You worked hard. Okay, fine. I'll just
ask you another question. Doesn't
matter.
>> No, no, no, no. I I really love what
your um I just unironically tucked my
hair behind my ears. Um,
>> by the way, your hair is in the same
We're in the same position right now.
>> Your hair is great.
>> Propecia.
>> Great. You know what? People should know
that
>> people I don't
>> Everyone Every man I know is on
Propecia. And also,
>> you just outed every single man in your
life that you know, including your young
nephews and sons. I don't know like like
every single
>> Prishia is incredible. And thank you for
saying that. You have naturally very
thick hair. You always have. You have.
Congrats. Incredible. And I bet you grew
it like that. And you bet you don't even
comb it in the morning and it looks
incredible.
>> I lied about the proper. It's just all
natural. I'm just trying to be relatable
[laughter] to other guys out there.
>> But your hair looks great. But anyway,
sorry. You talked you talked about your
ear.
>> I'm going to say something
controversial.
Sometimes like sometimes people are
great.
>> Mhm.
>> Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes
people are really great. And I know
that's a hot take.
>> It is controversial, [laughter] Andrew,
but that's so you. Well, I mean I
there's a there's a like there's a real
humanity to the stuff you do. There's
also you're just a delightful person to
be around. You're a real tenderoni.
>> I have a tenderoni. I will cosign that.
>> You're real tenderoni.
>> You and me both.
>> Yes. And and people are great. So say
more.
>> Some people some human beings can can be
really wonderful and add beautiful
things to the to the earth and to the
world. And I'm I I guess I'm curious as
well about what is it that makes us feel
compelled to do that? My my mother was
one of those people in every single
>> moment of her life. I had this image of
her now that she's passed and it came
very like like a flash
>> in a dream or like an awakening. I don't
know what it was, but I had this image
of her
>> being reunited
>> with her tribe after she passed.
>> Beautiful.
>> And it made sense to me why she was she
could be so hard on herself
>> incarnate when she was alive. I was
like, "Oh, you knew you were meant to be
in a thousand different places at once
giving goodness to people and you knew
in some unconscious way that you were
being restricted by this vessel of a
body by the vessel of restriction of
time and space." So when she passed, I
could I just I don't know like I don't
know if you had this experience with
someone who's passed, but it's like in
the first month or two,
>> I felt more connected to her than I ever
felt connected to her when she was in
incarnate when she was alive. Alive.
Let's put it in quotation marks. I do
believe that she's here right now and
she's everywhere all at once. I do
believe that and I I have a knowing of
that. So there was something about
seeing maybe seeing my mother in in a in
a very specific kind of hard work that
was so naturally occurring for her.
>> And and I was always someone in the same
way that you just did with me. I was
always someone with her was like just
take a trip.
>> Yeah.
>> Just relax. You're enough. You're the
most beautiful angel on earth. you you
can give yourself what you give to
others and and it doesn't make you
selfish. It doesn't make you any which
way. But after she passed, I had this
real understanding of like, oh no, that
was just inherently who she I don't know
whether it was nurture or I have no
idea, but it was just the the activating
the animating spirit of her, of her
essential nature, of her essential
being. And and I I guess you could call
that hard work or you could or you could
I don't know. There's there's something
otherworldly about it. As I say, after
she passed, I was like, "Oh, she's back.
She's actually back. She's back where
she's meant to be running around with
her like good angel brigade, like giving
people who need a miracle a miracle
like times a million." I could I could
just feel it. And I was just one of the
people that she was hanging out with.
>> Beautiful. I mean the idea that her
spirit and one spirit can be kind of
like released once they leave their
their body. Just that idea that
>> somebody is bigger than their body.
>> Yes.
>> And that's so interesting that you talk
about your mom when I ask you that
question because there is something in
your work that feels really not only
curious but very unbridled like you like
to kind of go go places. as I'm trying
to like psychoanalyze. Um, and again, I
am no therapist, but I do feel like I
am.
>> Um, and that's what this podcast is
about. Again, she says again, and I will
give you a prescription at the end of
this. [laughter]
>> Um, [gasps]
no, but I think it's also very
interesting that you togg
you're British in many ways. You were
born in the US and you to like I find
you toggle back and forth
>> between those things culturally very
easy. And I had a question for you,
which is,
>> what do you think is the most American
thing about you?
>> My love of hamburgers. [laughter] Like,
I love hamburgers.
>> But you have you have very youthful
energy as a person. You're a little
brother. [laughter]
>> You're a little brother. And your older
brother is a doctor.
>> He's a doctor. Heart and lung doctor in
London. Yeah. Yeah. The the the good the
good son.
>> The good. Yeah.
>> He's the one that made good. He made
good. Yeah.
>> Did he always Was he always
>> Yeah. He was head boy at school. Was
catching the swimming team. was a
son of a
>> Yeah,
>> he was a son of a
>> How many years older than you?
>> Three years older. Yeah. Yeah. I was
I was from day one. And
he gave me menitis day two of my life.
>> Oh, he gives
>> he brings home menitis.
>> And then he became a doctor to heal you
[laughter] from it.
>> You really should prescribe at the end
of this. And and yeah, I I I think like
being raised in a competitive household
is definitely a part in in like the nuts
and bolts of like the therapy. It would
be like, yeah, we don't feel enough at
the Garfield men. There is a kind of um
>> competition is sometimes gets a bad rap.
I love competition. I love games. I love
it, too. I
>> What What kind of game player are you?
You know what I mean? Like, do you get
too intense? Do you Yeah, me too.
>> I think you would have to ask my friends
this, but I would say I do. I I I have I
I can upset people.
>> Yeah, I have as well. I I work on it
because obviously like everyone wants to
have a good time, [laughter] but when
people say things like I know when
people say things like who really cares?
I'm like
>> what are we doing? [laughter] What do
you mean? Like we're playing a game like
we have to try to win as best we can.
>> Otherwise, you're ruining the game.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyone who like says, "Yeah, I'll play."
And it's like who?
>> Yeah. Like this is so stupid. It's like
>> don't play. Don't play.
>> Yeah. Don't show up. And and also I'm
treating you I I I'm being rough on you
because I believe in you
>> and I love you. [laughter] Yeah, for
sure.
>> I mean, I expect the best from you.
>> Yeah. And I want I want you to grow.
>> I want you to grow at at celebrity or
whatever we're playing. I want I want
you to grow. Okay. Do you like playing
mafia?
>> Yeah, I play with werewolf is the
version I play. Yeah.
>> I'm not I'm
>> I'm bad at being the werewolf,
>> dude. Me, too. I'm I hate And when I get
it, I'm like, "Oh, I'm the
>> I I hate it.
>> I hate it. I hate I hate the like lying.
I hate the
>> deception. I know.
>> I know. And I bet I love accusing and
yes, of course. John proctoring and also
defending oneself.
>> Of course, being like, "How dare you
think my name? [laughter]
YOU CANNOT TAKE MY NAME." AND EVERYONE'S
just like drinking their beers and just
like wanting to go to the bathroom like,
"Thou shalt not."
>> Okay, so let's get in. I do I do want to
ask you a a couple questions about your
work. Okay. I have to. Okay.
>> Um your first film you're with Merryill
Street [laughter]
Cruz and Robert Redford.
>> How old are you then?
>> I'm 23 I want to say.
>> So you're coming on to that set
[laughter]
>> like and we all you know you have the
everyone has the jitters of like any
first day on any job
>> like I'm just going to be cool. I'm
like, [laughter] you know, like just
don't talk too much. Like that's what I
would say, you know, to myself. Just
just listen more than you talk and just
>> they'll get to know you. You know,
whatever you're saying [laughter] to
yourself, what as you're driving to set
or whatever, what are you saying to
yourself when you're approaching that
set? That's a really intimidating set.
>> That's so intimidating.
>> Oh my gosh.
>> What was it like to work with Robert
Redford?
>> I don't know what I was telling myself.
I I I So, first of all, Bob Redford, God
rest his beautiful soul of service. That
man had a soul for service. Like, what
he did with Sundance and like and what
that sprung from came out, [snorts] it
came out of him, I think, helping out
his new neighbor in Utah who was about
to be foreclosed on. I'll buy your farm
so you can keep it. I'm going to have to
make some some money out of it and we'll
set up like a lab for young filmmakers.
So it came out of him helping out his
neighbor. It's just like
>> he was he was a beautiful beautiful man
and very late all the time to
everything.
>> So I say it with love. So I'm like I'm
like yeah terrified and nervous and
pinching myself and then Bob is 4 hours
late and it's just like by that time I'm
just pissed.
>> I'm just angry.
>> Okay, let's
[laughter]
>> Yeah. Yeah. But right. So you're
>> but but a lot of the nerves had kind of
dissipated because he was so loose and
casual and he and he's so he was so cool
and he he still dressed like he was in
his 20s with a double denim and he was
and he and he he wasn't aware that he
was late. He was just like on his own
Redford time
>> and he was famously like I'm not like
telling tales out of school. Sure. He
was like a famously late person.
>> But God is fair. I mean you know like
he's so handsome like there's got to be
something wrong with him.
>> [laughter]
>> I mean, what if he was like on time all
I'm like, "Okay, great." So, he's late.
Like, you be a little annoyed with the
guy, so he's late. [laughter] He's like,
"I'm I was too handsome." Like,
>> I couldn't stop looking.
>> I felt guilty.
>> So, you were feeling less nervous. It
helped
>> and and well, he was so relaxed. He was
so relaxed and and and he would shoot
him his own coverage first. He would
shoot himself
and then he would look at me after his
first take and he'd be like, "What do
you think?" Cuz he was directing as
well. So all my scenes were with him and
he was like, "What do you think?"
>> And I was like, "It's [laughter]
great. Really good. Robert Redfield."
And he was like, "Okay, that's really
I'll do it again. I'll do it again." And
then, but yeah, tell me if you think if
you see anything that you think. And I'm
like, "Oh my god,
>> that's a really interesting move."
Right. Trying to
>> Yeah. just make me feel like it was my
set and made me feel like I was an equal
and like he knew it was my first movie.
>> Yeah, that's very nice.
>> Oh, he was so nice. He was so beautiful.
And we and it was like a theater play
and I had done only theater at that
point. It was a lot of dialogue and it
was like a
>> Well, you are a theater you're a theater
boy.
That is your first love.
>> That is my first like love out. It was
like that was like my first exit of the
Truman Show. You know what I mean? like
opening that door in the sky and then it
was like there's a whole world out there
that I had no idea existed.
>> When you were working on that film, were
you still working at Starbucks?
>> No. No.
>> You had quit Starbucks.
>> I quit. [laughter]
>> No, because there is always this weird
thing sometimes when
>> I wasn't ready to fully let go of it. I
wasn't like, you know, I'm not going to
say that that's that era is over.
>> I I had a little bit of a shock straight
out of drama school. I I I did two plays
in a row and then I I was like, I'm set.
Yeah.
>> And I did like a Doritos commercial in
Spain and I'm like [laughter]
>> you're like
>> that's that
>> I guess wrap it up fell [laughter]
>> wrap it up. Like that's my like that's
going to that's my kind of like the rest
of my life is going to be the occasional
Doritos like crisp commercial and and
great theater work. I'm I'm good.
>> Yeah.
>> Um and then I didn't work for a year
>> and then I started having to wait tables
again and be a bartender and I I broke
up with my girlfriend at the time. So,
it was like a really great year of,
you know, you're never safe. [laughter]
>> Yeah. Like this destabilized kind of
place. And I still have it. I I'm sure
that you do, too. Even at the top of
this swanky building or not, you're
like, "No, I'm pretty much set."
>> No, you know, it's funny. It's funny you
say that. I know what you mean. Like, I
still just feel like you have to have a
plan always just if everything goes
away. Um,
>> what's yours? Well, I mean, it's funny.
I I still have dreams sometimes about
going back being a waitress because I
liked I liked waiting tables a lot.
>> Yeah.
>> Um because working in the service
industry in general, I liked a lot
because there was just certain things
that felt like you just completed your
night. Like your night had a system and
you completed it. You interacted with
people enough that you performed a
little bit.
>> You were with people who worked also
worked very hard. But the idea of like
doing a good job still means a lot to
me.
>> I know it means a lot to you. It's I get
a lot of self-esteem from work.
>> Yeah. [applause]
>> Do you consider yourself a method actor?
>> So the method [laughter]
and if so who am I speaking to?
[laughter]
But it but it's like but it but because
it is you do you do go pretty deep in
when you're playing coach. You do
>> you got that trickster look in your eye.
You're looking for the clickbait head.
You're like is he going to give me the
juice or
>> babe? You lost all this. Wait, you
studied for a year [laughter] being a
monk.
>> You
you go for it for it. Are you method?
[laughter]
>> Are you method? Answer the question. Are
you method? It's a yes or no question.
I mean, [laughter]
are you though?
>> Don't try Don't try and get cute with
it. [laughter]
>> But are you No, but I want to know.
Um, in a way, yes, but I think Yeah. But
[laughter] I think I think the term has
been massively mischaracterized,
misunderstood, and co-opted by people
that don't know. A method is basically
having a method and and [clears throat]
like this the the Stannislavski method,
the Strazburg method is about trying to
live truthfully under imagined
circumstances
>> and and and having it feel personal,
having it feel
>> um connected to something that's
interior that is not just
>> um a kind of more performative exterior
um abstraction. Uh, so so I feel like
yes, but but I don't um I I think
there's a way of doing it that's
generous. I think there's a way of
accessing that work and that style of
working that doesn't with the rest
of the cast. That doesn't with the
rest of the crew that you don't have to
lose a bunch of weight.
>> That's playful.
>> Well, yeah. Yeah, that's playful.
>> Totally. And and generous like I feel
and and I and I my personal taste and my
personal
>> Sydney Lumett the great one of my
favorite filmmakers of all time who who
who seemed to vanish as a director in
his movies in a sense that like he let
his movies be the movies rather than
letting people know that he directed
them. Yes.
>> You know what I mean? Like every movie
is such a different flavor, such a
different feel.
>> Alan Parker is like that too for me.
>> Alan Parker. Exact. I was thinking about
Alan and and so very one of my favorite
films of all time, Bugsy Malone. Alan
Parker and then he does Angel Heart.
Holy
and and so
he says in his great little book making
movies I don't know if you've read he he
tells a story about Paul Newman I think
or yeah he tells a story about Paul
Newman in what was the movie they made
together it'll come back but he's like
Paul Newman came with with he did the
scene and um Lummet was like okay I
think we're going to re-shoot this
tomorrow because I think you need you
need to find out what this scene's about
inside yourself and he [snorts] comes
back the next and and and and there was
something very personal that he was
referring to. He's like, I think you
know what this moment is and I think
you're resisting going there
>> and um Paul Paul came back and he did
the scene and it was like one of the
great you know scenes of any sum movie
and he describes it as personal
revelation is like the actor's job is
personal revelation
>> while the cameras are rolling.
>> The actors that I respond to and the
storytelling I respond to feels
>> like personal revelation.
>> Yeah. and and through through the lens
of a of a character, I think about like
and I've talked about this openly about
Tick Tick Boom, which is a film that I'm
very proud of and I really love and and
I can feel Thanks. And I and I just
>> but I I I can talk about it because it
feels very personal and also not
personal at all in a way. It does feel
like that kind of liinal place of of
letting another spirit move through
>> intermingling with my own spirit, but
also my mother's spirit is so much in
that film. Um, but but it was very very
personal cuz I just lost my mom and we
were making this movie
>> and it's about the shortness of life.
It's about the shortness, the sacredness
of life. It's about being of service.
It's about living out your own calling,
your own destiny in [snorts] a way. And
what we're talking about waiting tables
and that year off like like how how do
you how do you hang on by hook or by
crook to the note that you hear in your
head that you have to follow? Like how
do you play your note? How do you how do
you not fall asleep to your note even
though the you're a salmon swimming
upstream of a of a world telling you to
to to drop it and and take the 9 to5 or
what whatever it is.
>> You mentioned directors. You've worked
with really interesting directors. You
always do. I I have a question that I I
want to ask. Fincher is one of my
favorite directors. He's I love his
films.
>> Rashidita was in social network. I know.
And I always and I was like, what was it
like working with David Fincher? Like
>> and she's like he's so incredible to
work with.
>> But I really want to know genuinely and
and not I'm not like digging for some. I
want to know what does the many many
takes do? How does it help you as an
actor? How does it does it how is it not
>> frustrating or like
>> can be?
>> Yeah. Is it like I I
>> I love it.
>> You love it.
love it cuz I love acting and I
love hard work and I love sports and I
love and I love not going home
>> with anything left to give. And yeah,
there's nothing worse as you know than
going home going,
>> I could have done that better.
>> Yeah,
>> it sucks. to feel it to feel like you're
in bed and you're just like ruminating
of like
>> Oh, yeah.
>> I I was I I my father put me through
drama school. He worked so hard and now
I've just done like a half job
>> at like this this thing that I'm so
lucky to do. And so, yeah, I I I love
it. And also,
>> I find it pleasure. I just find the work
really deeply pleasurable.
>> But I love positive reinforcement. I do.
[laughter] I I genuinely do. It works on
me. Like I don't I don't the challenger
in me. I what what I'm I'm relating to
is the competitiveness of like tapping
into like yeah, I'll do this
30 times. I don't give a I
can tap into that, but I need sometimes
like I don't like um and I'm sure David
isn't like this, but but I I I don't do
well when I like like when someone's
negging me like [laughter] I just kind
of quit.
>> To use the phrase from the pickup
artist.
>> Are you talking about mystery?
>> I'm sorry. [laughter] Mystery. Sorry,
just a quick sidebar. Shout out to
Mystery. Shout out to mystery. We miss
you guys. [laughter] Mystery didn't work
between us, but that doesn't mean that
you can't find love.
>> Um, obsessed with the pickup.
>> We didn't love the neg. [laughter]
>> I It does not work on me. Like when
someone comes up and like, you know,
like, "Hey, you're ugly." Whatever. I'm
[laughter] like, "Okay." Like, it just
Why are you so ugly at this bar?
Whatever. Whatever that I It does.
I'm I'm [laughter] not even good at
pretending to do it. I just I'm like it
does not work on me. It does not work on
me. But like even at an exercise class,
right? If someone's like, "You're gonna
work super hard in here." And like, you
know, and I'm just like, "No, I'm not.
>> Not anymore. I'm not anymore.
>> You could have had me. You could have
had all this."
>> But when someone's like, "You got here
no matter what. It's 7 a.m. like I'm
like, "Fuck."
>> Yeah. I I'm just telling for me for me.
So, in any of those uh repetitive takes,
whether it's with David or another
director,
>> do you like do you trust when you get
positive feedback?
>> With David, I do.
>> Okay.
>> I did.
>> And he you he would give it.
>> Yeah. He would and but but what's so
cool about David is that he's that he's
that dad, you know? He's that dad that
like knows that you need that.
>> Uhhuh. and and and and he'll and he'll
give it to you in abundance when you've
like when you've really shown how much
you care.
>> It's it's that kind of coach,
>> right?
>> I love a sports coach like that. Like
like like Paul Greengrass on on on the
film The Uprising is like that. He's
like incredible team captain. He's just
like he's just like a if we were like a
football team, English football team.
Um, and he was our he was our man and
and and and and he he was so full of
beautiful positive reinforcement.
>> Fin David would be Fincher would be less
quick with it for sure.
>> Um, but when you got it, it was like
that you would be stoic about you would
receive it and you would want to cry,
but you would be like, "Thanks. Yeah,
it's cool." It was like that level of
like it meant so much. And and the big
scene with like the smashing of the
laptop thing that Social network for
anyone who doesn't know what we're
talking about.
>> Yeah. Social network. And um
>> we did a lot of takes of it and I there
was like a few rounds of takes where I
was like
>> he's going to call it. He's going to
he's going to call it soon. He's going
to call it. Okay. One more time, Andrew.
And I'm like, okay.
>> Oh wow. Yeah.
>> And then on the third round of 10 or 15
takes, I didn't hear anything. I was
just like on the floor with like I was
exhausted and like just like snotty and
just like crying and I'm [snorts] just
like waiting for like and at that point
you're broken in a way that's like so
beautiful.
>> Beautiful.
>> So beautiful. [laughter]
It's the best feeling in the
world. It's the best feeling in
the world.
>> Okay. You say so. [laughter]
>> Okay. And I and I just feel like a
shadow approaching like like covering
like like the I I the light that was on
me just gets like kind of covered by a
figure. And I look at his shoes and I
look up and he looks down at me. He just
puts his hand down and he and he takes
my hand and he shakes my hand and he
lifts me up and he's like, "Okay, moving
on." And I'm like
>> so holding
>> so [laughter] hot.
I I don't know. You [laughter] have even
you I'm sorry BUT YOU HAVEN'T SOLD ME.
You haven't sold me. Let me tell you a
different story because I would have
liked [laughter] him at tape 10 to say
you're doing a great job. Hey babe.
>> Hey babe. You're doing great.
>> Babe, you're doing so great.
>> I I would have like this is what I would
have liked.
>> You're doing great. But you know me, I
have to do 25 more. That's what I would
have liked. I would have been like
>> Well, let me say one more thing about
David because I feel like I need to
protect David as a as a father on set
now. You can you can feel that he's
proud of you.
>> Yeah. because of what you're giving.
He's such a talented director,
>> but you can feel it. It's not he's not
withholding. It's like it's like it's
not like you're doing a bad job.
>> And it's not like I'm not going to give
you the banana. It's like it's like you
can feel when he's he's like he's like
we're going to keep going. Do we do
another one? Think about this. Think
about that. He's he's a tender tender
guy. He really really is. getting back
to the very beginning of what we're
talking about is this idea that
caring about something is like is this
like very important and
>> I'll I'll self-reveal because you're
you're really doing it you're really
you're acting with my therapist
[laughter] today which I don't
appreciate.
>> I'm sorry.
>> Which I don't appreciate.
>> I'm honestly sorry.
>> Okay. Um [clears throat]
>> you're my David Venture and you're
breaking me down. Um, no. But, um, but
when I feel like I I if I've checked out
or I like feel like I am acting like I
don't care about something, it really
means that I've divested.
>> And
>> yeah,
>> it's a bummer cuz it means that I've
lost some kind of relationship.
Sometimes you have to do it to protect
yourself. Sometimes you do it because
you don't have anything left to give.
Sometimes you do it because you don't
feel like the person that you're with, I
don't know, earned or deserves or can
hold it. Totally. Totally.
>> All that. But you feel like you've lost
something like in that it is you are
very very as a person as a as an actor
you really invest and it's and it's
>> like it must be um
>> exhausting.
>> It must be exhausting. That's why I
think you need to take a break from some
of these movies.
>> I'm going to take a break. No, I am
going to take a break.
>> You're too hard.
>> I was too hard.
>> It's too hard being an actor. Being an
actress pretending know
>> pretending to be things. [laughter]
Pretending to be in a in a peasants
revolt.
>> It's hard.
>> It's hard.
>> Pretending to [laughter] be a German
magician.
>> I go home at night and I'm like, "Owee."
>> I had to pretend it was cold. It was
actually hot. [laughter]
>> So, and then
>> and then
>> and then um [laughter]
>> But wait, I do want to I want to Okay,
you bet.
>> Seriously, whatever. whatever you want
to ask.
>> Well, you know what? I
>> I love I love your uh your [laughter]
Hold on.
>> This is an SNL skit. This is SNL
[laughter] character.
>> Is it like a Fred Aras you or was it,
you know, was it Kristen Wig? That was
like they would start a sentence and
then like never finish the sentence.
>> Fred was they played uh G and C.
>> So good. Sorry. Fred played a character
called Nicholas Fain. Have you ever Let
me ask you this. Have you Has it ever
been a Okay, say you're in It's
[laughter] summertime. It's summer
Oregon. But there's a dog. Do you have a
dog?
>> Wait. Dogs or cats? [laughter] And he I
do it badly.
>> And I've already told you that or I I
said on that podcast the when he would
do it, the Q cards would be blank.
>> You hosted SNL, right?
>> Yes, I did it once. Yeah, I did it.
>> And did you have a good time doing it?
>> I loved it. I absolutely loved it. And
of course I was so scared but again like
service like I think the best episodes
are when the host
>> totally
>> supports the cast and that's not always
like intuitive thing which I understand
but like
>> nobody really pulls anybody aside to say
like I know this might feel weird but
you'll have the best time if you
>> say yes to the stuff that like the cast
likes and you know like if you just like
become an ensemble member you'll have
the best time but it's not always um set
up like that. But did you host it for
Spider-Man? Were was it during
Spider-Man?
>> I think it was the second Spider-Man.
Yeah,
>> I had Tom Holland in here.
>> Sweet.
>> Oh my gosh.
>> Sweetie pie.
>> What a sweetie.
>> Such a doll. Such a talented actor.
>> So talented.
>> And I I just have to say I love how all
of you guys
>> like show up for each other. You talk
about each other. You talk about your
experience.
>> It's a brotherhood now, which is really
really great. Like I think like doing
doing the one where we're all together
really cemented some kind of
>> weird brotherhood that was just
beautiful, you know, and and I I had
known Toby a little bit before,
>> but he was always my, you know, my north
star with that character that like and
>> and I and I loved what Tom's done. And I
think that was very healing for all of
us to do that together and to feel less
alone in that very very weird
>> singular experience like to be a part of
this character's legacy that
>> is maybe I don't know arguably one of if
not the most popular fictional character
in the history of like modern fiction.
>> Really really true. I don't know another
character that is that beloved
>> and now you know mother of boys I didn't
really they're now 16 and almost 18
>> and the proper is helping
>> yeah it's helping a lot yeah I insisted
they get on it
>> really like like a lot of hair now
>> mommy loves a good head of hair
>> mommy mommy mommy
>> you know mother won't be mother will be
disappointed [laughter]
that's what I say I wake them up and I
say has your hair grown mother's
disappointed
>> [laughter]
>> Have you seen Andrew's hair?
I say, "Don't let mother down." That's
what [laughter] I say every day when I
close the door.
But they [laughter]
>> but they um the the way in which when
that character was introduced in their
lives, the way they
>> embodied him like they they their bodies
want to it's really wild. And so
>> Joseph Campbell primitive.
>> That's so interestingly put. That's
really interesting.
>> They want to get in that crouch.
>> Yes.
>> And they want to leap and it's so fun
with those kinds of films where you
watch people come out of the film and
they're just moving like dancers to like
it's so cool. And um I just want to talk
about Sally Field.
>> Oh my god. Yeah. Let's do that.
>> Isn't she
>> Wow.
>> She's so good at acting.
>> She's one of the best. Oh, she really
is.
>> She's maybe one of the best.
>> You've worked with some amazing women.
hell.
>> And congratulations. You seem to really
love women and everybody can tell.
>> Thank God because
>> women love you and and and they and you
and you can tell. And Sally is I don't
know. I just What was it like to work
with her? What is she like to be around?
>> She's one of the great people alive or
dead for that matter. But um
[clears throat] she's she's so
weirdly still humble. It's a weird thing
like she I I would say she has legend
status. She's like icon legend status as
a performer, as an actor, as a person.
>> Um and somehow she's retained
a kind of homespun grounded
again in the same way that Redford made
me relax. Like Sally is someone that you
just feel like you're with the best
friend aunt you could ever wish for. I I
was thinking about this the other day
actually. I think one of the great
highlights and privileges of my life was
to be able to give her a lifetime
achievement award at the SAG awards a
few years ago.
>> So great.
>> I felt so lucky. I almost said no cuz I
just didn't think that I could handle it
because it was so it was such an honor
cuz she is so beloved and and rightly
so. And she's so
beautifully extraordinary and ordinary
sight. She honors her ordinariness in
such an inspiring I I I really can't
believe I can even talk about her in
this fashion.
>> It's so funny you say that. She's so so
so talented like and I've she's probably
her and Merryill probably the two most
influential actresses in in for me
growing up.
>> Um
>> but she never felt
>> uh above or below us ever. She never put
herself down. She was always just like
>> just just her.
>> Um there's a million people that would
have wanted to talk to me today about
you.
>> I know about this part of your thing.
I'm nervous. I'm like excited and
nervous and you got someone to come and
say friends. You have so many talented
friends and they all love you and they
all want to they it's you know it is
it's it's a really you should know that
it's a really nice thing when you have a
guest on and there's like so many people
that would want to speak well behind
your back.
>> That's crazy. Um, but we talked today to
Lin Manuel Miranda.
>> Oh,
>> and um he talked about the process, you
know, of of working with you and and
how, you know, when he said, you know,
um, can you sing and, you know, and you
were like, when when are you going to
make this? And he was like, in a year.
And you were like, yes. Which is
[laughter] amazing. I love that. And
that is now knowing a little bit more
about your competitive spirit, I
understand that, which is like, I'll do
a coach. Yes. Yes. So true.
>> Um, his question was he he spoke a
little bit about how what a good swimmer
you are and how he didn't know that and
and he called you the Michael Phelps of
[laughter]
>> which you know
>> there. No. Who would that be? Me?
>> Do you swim a lot? Do you like to swim?
>> I still swim. Yeah, I still swim.
>> Yeah, cuz I I I
>> I surf now. I It's translated.
>> Yeah, it's like my gymnastics. I was a
gymnast when I was a kid. Mhm.
>> that translated into like, you know,
Spider-Man stuff.
>> Um, I took all of the stuff that my dad
was trying to like discipline me with
and I turned into something like a
funner version of [laughter] those
things. Like with swimming, it was like
up at 5:00 a.m., you know, swimmers like
they they they train. It's crazy.
>> I know.
>> So, I turned that into surfing. So, like
my paddle is pretty strong and I can
Yeah. So, I like So, I I surf more than
I swim, but I swim I don't I don't
really swim swim anymore. I'll do like
open water swimming and swimming in the
sea and like swimming in ponds and like
natural places.
>> Yeah. Do you have long arms?
>> I don't think that's any of your
business.
>> Fine. [laughter]
>> Fine. Well, I'm not going to tell you
what Lynn said.
>> I know that your least strong sense is
your vision, but you could have made an
effort to just look at the arms.
>> I'm like, do you I'm [laughter] like, do
you have long arms?
>> You have long arms.
>> Um, okay.
>> Can you clear something up for me? It's
just been bugging me this [laughter]
whole time.
>> I'm like, let me Are your arms long or
are they shortly? Where are they in me?
I need to smell and see if your arms
[laughter] are long.
>> Um, okay. But he said, he said, um,
first of all, he was like, tell Andrew
what [laughter]
he said.
>> THE ONLY WAY IS Columbbo with this.
>> OH MY GOD.
>> THE ONLY way I can figure out
>> that's a good Peter Faulk.
>> Peter Faulk. Me and him have the same
birthday. Not tomorrow.
>> Let me smell. Just one more thing. No
one more thing. Let me smell your arms.
[laughter]
Just because the the murderer has
[laughter] particularly long swimmer's
arms. I don't know. I just not wear my
glasses. But
my nose is strong, so I'd like to just
Never mind. I'm out. [laughter]
Now, ONE MORE THING.
>> ONE MORE THING. Can I smell your arm?
[laughter] This one is even smells like
chlorine.
You've been in the pool. Oh God.
Peter.
>> [snorts]
>> You You guys remember Peter Faulk,
right? If you anyone under the age of
50, [laughter]
>> Columbbo. God damn it. Love Columbbo so
much. But so Lynn Lynn's question for
you was um what other secret as you know
he had a two-parter. First was like what
other secret what other secret thing are
you good at that we don't know yet?
[laughter] I know he's like tell us now
so director can a director can know. But
he basically was basically saying like,
you know, does anything feel like too
much of a challenge? Um, you do a lot of
you you really take on a lot of
challenges for the work that you do.
You're your game.
>> Yeah, that's a cool question. It's a
question I've been asking myself.
>> Mhm.
>> Um,
you know, you know, I'm really scared of
>> Yeah. [laughter]
>> I'm going to tell you anyway. Um, being
a being a dad
>> scares the out of me.
>> So great.
>> It scares me so much.
>> You're going to be so great. [laughter]
Don't even worry about it.
>> Seriously, even if you can fix
>> Mommy's proud of my hair. Is that what
you're saying?
>> Mother is proud. [laughter]
>> Mother is proud.
>> Mother is proud. Look at all that.
>> If you're going to be The fact, Andrew,
that you even say it.
>> Yeah.
Well, it mean that I think that that
would be the biggest most important
>> thing I ever probably do.
>> Yeah.
>> And I and I I know that to be true. It
makes me want to cry thinking about it.
>> Cry cry cry cry. I love when boys cry
[laughter] on here.
>> Cry cry cry.
>> Talk about being a dad.
>> Like [laughter] it's like
>> Yes.
man.
>> Yes. You'll be so good.
>> I know what it's like to be on the other
end of it, you know? You know what I
mean? I've been a child.
>> I know. It's really It's
>> You've been a son.
>> Yes. We We've all been born from dads
and sometimes not. Right.
>> Right. I don't know.
>> Well,
>> don't cancel us.
>> Don't I'm sorry. [laughter]
We all We're all born however [snorts]
we want.
[laughter]
WAIT. But get Let's get back to you
crying. [laughter]
[gasps] But you're going to be such a
good dad.
You're going to know. I do want to do
it. I do want to do it and I and I and
it kind of you can sometimes feel a bit
selfish with I want to be there like
well
>> I don't know I don't know. So I so I'm
the in terms of a challenge I can't
imagine a greater
>> a greater challenge than um taking that
kind of responsibility. Um and then
there was another question about stuff
I'm good at. Um I a sad I'll I'll
respond in a sad way. always.
[laughter]
>> It relates back to the body failing.
[laughter]
>> Oh my god. What are you gonna say?
>> Grab some felt real quick.
>> Just grab something.
>> Get that fell back in my Sweet. Let's do
a little Yeah.
>> I um I was playing basketball recently.
>> Mhm.
>> I love basketball. And I thought I think
I'm pretty good at basketball.
>> I have a theory about this.
>> [laughter]
>> Uh, I think the worst injuries happen
with men in their 40s when they play
basketball.
>> It's It's a theory that's backed up with
a lot of evidence.
>> Go ahead. What did you do?
>> Columbbo sister. [laughter]
Columbbo sister. She comes and she's
like, "Colbo, let's get out of here."
And he goes, "Wait a minute. Just"
[laughter]
She's like, "You said you were leaving
like 10 MINUTES AGO.
>> [laughter]
>> COLUMBO'S SISTER IS LIKE, "Get in the
car." [laughter]
Jesus, you had your keys in your hand
for 10 minutes. I've been in waiting in
the car. [laughter]
Like, just a second.
>> Okay. Sorry. Sorry. Okay. Basketball.
Let's get back on track.
>> Basketball with some friends.
[laughter]
>> I was playing with Woody Haroldson.
>> Oh, great. He's a good basketball
player. I know.
>> My man can't jump is one of my all-time
favorite movies.
>> Why [laughter] am I holding these felts
like they're cards in a poker game?
[laughter]
>> Oh my god. Do you have
>> turn everything into a game?
>> Playing Uno. Do you have orange cheese?
Great. [laughter]
>> Okay. Sorry. Come on, Andrew. Focus.
>> If if anyone's not watching this and
just listening to on the [laughter]
podcast, I'm so sorry. We're
holding.
>> I'm sorry for most of what's been
happening this whole time. I'm so sorry.
>> Oh, Jesus Christ. I was playing with
Woody, who I love and I've been a fan of
forever. And White Man jump is just one
of those alltime great movies. And he's
is one of my all-time favorite
performances of all time.
>> All time. All time. All time.
>> And I was so excited to play with him.
And then as soon as we got on the court,
I just froze.
>> I was just like,
>> you got in your head. [laughter] I just
like I was just like the seven-year-old
of the party that just wants to go home.
>> Oh god, yes. Oh god, yes.
>> I was just so scared.
>> It was like fight or flight or freeze.
>> I was I folded.
>> I fully froze and folded
>> and I played really badly and I just
want to apologize to
>> for a competitive person like you.
>> Yeah, I froze. I was just like I love
Woody so much and I've been wanting to
play with him for so long and it was our
finally our time
>> and he still plays great and he's like
you know
>> I don't think he should. Woody, if
you're listening, you're gonna blow out
your knee.
>> He's taking really good care of himself,
but he he he's a compet he's fiercely
competitive, and I love it. I absolutely
love it. Anyway, so um a thing that I
thought was a hidden talent, [laughter]
>> Lynn.
>> Turns out uh
>> it's gone.
>> It's there was never maybe there. So
there there we have it.
>> You made a movie that took place in
1381.
>> Yeah.
>> And it is about a peasant uprising. It
looks badass. It's called it's looks I I
I saw the trailer for it and and
>> the feeling of like
>> whoa this is a very political very
interesting movie to make right now
>> and what is it about?
>> Yeah, it's a true it's about true events
in that period of British history. Um
it's the it's called the peasants
revolt. Um, and it was a a big uprising
um among the the ordinary folk of the of
the British Isles that came together in
an organized way. And it's um it's told
the story is told in a way that is very
unique and it's cuz it's this it's one
of my favorite directors of all time
Paul Greengrass who people would have
seen a lot of his amazing films like
>> Captain Phillips or the Bourne
>> series movies with Matt Damon
>> or um United 93 or Bloody Sunday u the
News of the World with Tom Hanks. um
some of my favorite films of all time
and I've wanted to work with Paul
forever and and and it brings up in
really interesting questions about
revolution about violence in revolution
whether it's needed whether it's not how
change can happen without
>> some form of military coup like it's
really a a visceral story
>> it's so cool it looks incredible
>> and it's a ride as well it's also just
like a really entertaining kind of
action film it's like a really cool
>> and it also has my my scariest kind of
villain which is a a boy king
>> oh yeah boy King. Tyrant boy king.
>> Tyrant boy king.
>> Oh yeah.
>> Oh, there's nothing scarier.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And
it was real. Richard, this this King
Richard was 14 years old and he had And
at that time, this is what's crazy. At
that time, and it wasn't metaphorical,
it was literal. The king was the
messenger of God's word on the earth.
So, anything that the king uttered was
literally treated like it was sent from
heaven above.
There was and any equivocation of that
meant you were a treasonous entrer to
the throne. So anything that this boy
decides this 14year-old boy who is being
governed a lot by these
>> sure
>> you money hoarding power hoarding land
hoarding oligarchs was treated was had
to be it was there was no question it
was just like that's the way it is water
is wet you know sky is blue the king is
god on earth
>> okay
>> that's that so that level of power yeah
>> it's a really interesting thing for
right now
>> I need to finish our I need to finish
you you need to go you have like
But 45 other things to do today. But
>> no, this is lovely. I love being
>> But I want to finish by asking you the
question I ask everybody, which is, what
are you listening to, watching, numbing
out with?
>> I love numbing out, man.
>> Okay. What do you What do you What video
do you like? What movie?
>> What video? What's your video?
>> What's your video? Sometimes it's just a
video of like a bird eating.
>> What's [laughter] your video right now?
>> We're back on the first date. Now we're
back on the first date. And you're like,
"What's your favorite video?
>> [laughter]
>> What what video what video do you watch
when you want
when you want to turn off your head?
>> What's the video?
>> What video do you watch? [laughter]
>> My favorite video right now is um I've
been watching a lot of Roy Horn of Sig
and Roy fame cuz I play Roy Horn in this
uh in this upcoming Apple TV show and we
just finished. Did you know this? I love
this for you, bro. It's really fun.
>> You're playing Roy Horn.
>> Yeah. So, I've been watching lots of Roy
Horn movies.
>> Is that why your hair is so luscious?
>> Yes. Yes, that's partly. But then we
just end up putting wigs on of the same
hair.
>> It's like, can I get a wig of this on
this? Yeah. Great. That makes sense. No,
no, no. It does make sense.
>> Oh my god.
>> We're playing them through me and Judah.
Judah is playing Sig Freed [screaming]
>> and we're playing them through the
through the decades from their 20s
through to their 60s. It's amazing. So
fun. It was so hard. called a maneater.
It means maneater.
>> The name means maneater.
>> I did not know that.
>> The tiger that
>> there was an incident with we say
incident.
>> There was an accident.
>> There was an accident
which means maneater.
>> I cannot wait for this project.
>> And Roy hand raised him.
>> Yeah.
>> Wow.
>> And Roy Yeah. So I'm I'm obsessed. And
I'm still obsessed. That's a good sign
that I we we were prepping for a year.
We shot it for six months and I'm still
obsessed with Roy. I still adore him and
his spirit.
>> Yes.
>> Um, so I've just been watching lots of
footage of him for the last year and a
half and I continue to watch it cuz I
just adore
>> And have you handled tigers?
>> Have you been near tigers?
>> I have been near tigers. Yes. But I but
only in a a very legal and safe way. But
I did feed a tiger by hand which was
kind of incredible.
>> Tigers are amazing. And I and I and I
and I say to them, "Good day, sir."
>> Yes. [laughter]
>> I say to tigers, "And I and it is nice
to meet you, and I shall take my leave
[laughter]
because tigers scare the out of
me."
>> Yeah,
>> they're so
>> They live with them.
>> I know.
>> He hit a thing in the morning. He hit a
button as he woke up and it sent a bell
into the garden letting the tiger that
he wanted know it was time to come and
snuggle. The tiger came into the house,
came up to the bed, jumped on bed, and
they snuggled to wake Roy up. He was
>> incredible.
>> Something else, man. He was something
else.
>> Andrew Garfield,
>> Amy Pola,
>> we have talked so much.
>> This was yapping. We yapped.
>> We yapped.
>> We yapped. We we I knew we would.
>> Me, too. It's been a while.
>> I know. It's so fun to be with you. I
love talking to you.
>> I feel like we're from the same planet
in some regard. I feel like we're from
some kind of same universe, which I
>> I love just being with you and I've
always have. I remember when I first met
you, it was with Jane Aronson, Dr. Jane
Aronson of the Worldwide Orphans
Foundation. And I was really nervous to
meet you cuz I'm just a huge fan of
yours and I just think you're so
wonderful. I hadn't known many famous
people at that point. And you were just
like so warm and engulfing and
encouraging and caring in such a genuine
way that made me feel a lot of hope for
for for being a person in this world and
I I you you're a beautiful beautiful
person. I really adore you.
>> Andrew, thank you so much. You smell so
good. [laughter]
Everyone should know it's my best sense
and I here to say Andrew smells great
just like we thought. [laughter]
>> Andrew Garfield. EVERYBODY.
Andrew Garfield. That was so fun. Oh,
you're just a real silly Billy. I had
such a good time with you. Thank you so
much for doing this. And and for this
Polar Plunge, you know, we talked about
some great people that Andrew worked
with, uh, including Sally Field. And I
just wanted to remind everybody if
you're looking for a movie, a beautiful
movie that's filled with heart and will
make you cry and and it's all about like
the the spirit of of of a woman saving
her farm. Check out a movie called
Places in the Heart with Sally Field and
Danny Glover and a young John Malkovich
and Ed Harris and Amy Madigan and it's
so so good. Um,
not enough people talk about this movie
and is one of my favorites. Places in
the heart. Sally Field, I love you.
Andrew Garfield, we love you. Thank you
so much for doing this episode and
thanks everybody for listening. See you
soon.
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