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All right,
let's chop and load.
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Good evening, Officer.
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Y'all need my license
or anything, huh?
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No, that's not necessary.
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That's a sharp-looking truck
you got.
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Yes, sir. Thank you.
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Those rims look like
they cost you a pretty penny.
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Who you been working for?
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Oh, no, sir.
I don't work for nobody.
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Got my own pulping business.
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You know, I clear out
all these trees around here.
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So, you ain't got no boss
to check in with, huh?
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That must be pretty nice.
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Free to run
up and down the road,
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wherever you want to,
whenever you want to,
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in this fancy truck.
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Hey, well, not if my wife
got something to say about it.
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Yeah.
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I heard that ain't stopped you
before, though.
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Ain't that right, Johnny D.?
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You want to make
a break for it? Hmm?
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No, sir, I don't wanna
do nothing...
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'Cause after what you done,
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I'm looking for any excuse
to get this over with
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right here, right now.
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Sir, I ain't did nothing,
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and I think y'all got
the wrong person here.
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Y'all got me confused
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with somebody. And I think...
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I ain't got you confused
with nobody.
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I don't have a thing
to do with this.
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Sir, you got me
confused with somebody.
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I ain't did nothing wrong.
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We all know Monroeville
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as the peaceful town
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where Harper Lee wrote
To Kill a Mockingbird.
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Last year, that peace was
shattered by a brutal crime.
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On the 1st of November,
18-year-old Ronda Morrison
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was found dead
at Jackson Cleaners.
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Morrison had been strangled
and shot by Walter McMillian,
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known locally as Johnny D.
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McMillian was convicted
by a jury
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who recommended
a life sentence.
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But today,
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Judge Robert E. Lee Key
overrode their decision
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and sentenced McMillian
to death.
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We promised the community
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that we would find him,
and we did.
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You commit a crime
like this in my town,
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one way or another,
you're gonna pay for it.
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As McMillian
awaits execution
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at Holman
Correctional Facility,
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a grieving community
can take some solace
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in knowing that, today,
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justice has finally
been served.
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Thank you.
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You got one hour.
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Uh...
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Hi, Mr. Davis. I'm Bryan.
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Henry.
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Um...
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The Southern Prisoners
Defense Committee,
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they sent me here
to tell you that,
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that they don't have
a lawyer for you yet,
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but they hope to soon.
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You're not a lawyer?
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No. I'm still in school.
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Just interning here
for the summer.
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So, you can't tell me nothing
about my case?
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I mean,
I was supposed to tell you
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that you're not
at risk of execution
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any time
within the next year.
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Can you say that again?
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That you're not at risk
of execution any time
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within the next year?
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That's the best news
I've heard in a long time.
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I didn't want
my wife or kids
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showing up if I had
an execution date coming.
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Now they can come visit.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Serious.
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My mom made me
join our church choir
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when I was, like, four.
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I sang lead baritone
all through high school.
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I played piano
at my church growing up.
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AME?
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God is good...
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...all the time.
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All the time.
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A couple AME Choir boys
hanging on death row.
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My mom would go trip.
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Man, that's crazy.
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What school are you going to?
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I'm at Harvard.
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Seriously?
You're going to Harvard?
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That's white-boy status, bro.
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What the hell are you doing
slumming it up in here for?
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I'm in law school because
I just wanted to help people.
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Just haven't figured out
the best way to do that yet.
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Honestly, this internship
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has been the best
experience so far.
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Working on death row
has been your best experience?
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You need
to get out more, bro.
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Should've been done
two hours ago.
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- I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
- Supposed to watch the clock.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Hey, hey, hey. Sir!
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Calm down,
he didn't do anything!
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You need to shut your mouth.
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It's okay, Bryan.
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Don't worry about me.
You just come back.
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♪ I'm pressing on ♪
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♪ The upward way ♪
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♪ New heights
I'm gaining every day ♪
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♪ Still praying as ♪
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♪ I'm onward bound ♪
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♪ "Lord, plant my feet ♪
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♪ On higher ground" ♪
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Mom still mad at you?
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For what?
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I don't know.
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Maybe for rejecting
all those job offers
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so you can be poor
in Alabama.
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And Howie telling her
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about that lynching in Mobile
didn't help.
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What?
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I said it happened
seven years ago.
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Yeah, that made it better.
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You two were supposed
to be on my side.
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Pop, how are we
looking up there?
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Just added
three quarts of oil.
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But you should check it again
when you get there.
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All right, thanks.
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Talk to your mom yet?
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What did those leaves
do to you?
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You're not gonna say bye
to your son?
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I know you got
your law degree now,
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and you think you're grown,
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but you're still my child.
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And I'm the one
who has to deal
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with your funeral arrangements
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if you get killed down there.
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Come on, Ma.
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Oh, you think this is funny?
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'Cause if you can't see
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the danger
in what you're doing,
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you need to ask Harvard
for your money back.
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You used to be smarter
than that.
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The first time
I visited death row,
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I wasn't expecting to meet
somebody the same age as me.
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Grew up on the same music.
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From a neighborhood
just like ours.
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Could've been me, Mama.
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I don't wanna move far away
from you. I love you.
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But you always taught me
to fight for the people
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who need the help the most.
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I am very proud of you, son.
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I know your heart's
in the right place.
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But it's not that simple.
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What you're doing is gonna
make a lot of people upset.
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You better be careful.
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I will.
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I promise.
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There she goes.
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You gotta be kidding me.
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We had an agreement to rent
this space for two years.
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You said it was a done deal.
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That's before I knew
what you were doing here.
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We are giving
poor people
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their constitutional right
to counsel, Bill.
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Do you mind explaining
to my son
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what you think
is so wrong with that?
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Eva, what's up?
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Oh, Bryan. Thank God.
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This is the executive director
of our organization.
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He just got here
and was expecting
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to move into the office
that you promised us.
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You said
you were the director.
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Director of Operations.
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And you're making me
look very bad
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in front of my boss
right now.
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She said you were a lawyer,
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but nobody told me it was
for murderers on death row.
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We're providing legal services
to people who need help.
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And they'll have to do it
someplace else.
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'Cause I can't have
people like that around here.
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Not everyone is in there
for a good reason, sir.
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Y'all have a good day now.
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What a piece of shit.
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I'm so sorry.
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This is not how I wanted
to welcome you here.
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I will find us an office,
I promise you I will.
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I just gotta
change my tactics.
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It'll be fine.
We can work from anywhere.
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Yeah,
we'll just have Kris
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clean up his toys
in the living room.
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- Right, Kris?
- Oh, yeah?
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I'll think about it.
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I'm sorry for cussing, baby.
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It's okay.
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He was a piece of shit,
though.
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I was a psychology major
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writing a paper
on capital punishment
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when I met my first death row
inmate, Wayne Ritter.
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He and his friend robbed
a pawn shop in Mobile.
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His friend shot the owner
and they both got death.
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Is he the reason
why you got into this?
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His attorney was openly
in favor of the death penalty.
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He thought
mad dogs ought to die.
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A lot of the folks
on death row
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either had
shitty representation,
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or none at all.
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So, I just started
calling every law firm
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in the Yellow Pages,
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just trying to find anybody
that could help.
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I was averaging
20 rejections a day.
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She was pretty stressed out.
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I was just about to give up
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when I got a call from
a Harvard lawyer saying that
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he had just passed
the Alabama Bar
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and had federal funding
to start a legal center
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for inmates on death row.
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I was in before
you even offered me the job.
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And before you knew
I couldn't pay you anything.
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What's that?
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Oh, yeah, Doug doesn't know
about that part yet.
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- Sorry, honey.
- All right.
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How's it going, son?
You seem tired.
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Okay.
Let's go brush your teeth.
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Excuse us.
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I'll make up the couch
for you, Bryan.
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I'm excited about
what you're doing.
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Me, too.
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I should be in the log.
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I'm scheduled
to see six clients today.
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Well, I ain't seen you before.
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That's because
I just moved here.
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You really a lawyer?
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Yes. I am.
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Well, I'm gonna have
to search you.
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Just go on in that room there
and take everything off.
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Attorneys aren't strip
searched for legal visits.
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Well, you ain't gonna
visit shit
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unless you get in that room
and strip.
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Let's go.
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Pants and underwear.
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Bend over and spread.
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You're clear.
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I fought in Nam.
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First Cavalry Division.
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Saw a lot of friends die.
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Doctor said I got PTSD.
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I did what they said I did.
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I put the bomb
on her porch.
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I know it don't make sense,
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but I didn't mean
to kill nobody.
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I think they're gonna
set my execution soon.
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Last lawyer said
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there ain't nothing
left to do.
261
00:18:40,798 --> 00:18:43,902
There's always something
that we can do.
262
00:18:43,968 --> 00:18:48,106
Whatever you did,
your life is still meaningful.
263
00:18:48,172 --> 00:18:49,841
And I'm gonna do
everything possible
264
00:18:49,908 --> 00:18:51,943
to keep them from taking it.
265
00:19:00,451 --> 00:19:05,023
Now, tell me everything
that happened.
266
00:19:05,089 --> 00:19:07,492
I was given
a court-appointed lawyer,
267
00:19:07,558 --> 00:19:09,961
and he was pretty pitiful.
268
00:19:10,028 --> 00:19:13,665
Never really talked to me
about setting up a defense.
269
00:19:13,731 --> 00:19:16,167
I probably met
the dude three times.
270
00:19:17,535 --> 00:19:19,204
Literally.
271
00:19:19,271 --> 00:19:21,307
He told me that it
would be in my best interest
272
00:19:21,373 --> 00:19:23,841
to plead no contest
to all of those charges.
273
00:19:23,908 --> 00:19:25,476
I'm gonna plead not guilty.
274
00:19:25,543 --> 00:19:26,811
I said I didn't do it.
275
00:19:26,878 --> 00:19:28,247
I didn't have nothing
to do with that.
276
00:19:28,314 --> 00:19:30,349
"You're 20 right now,
if you take this plea
277
00:19:30,416 --> 00:19:31,816
and you do the whole time,
278
00:19:31,883 --> 00:19:34,286
you'll only be 45
when you get out."
279
00:19:34,353 --> 00:19:37,256
In the middle
of my trial, which only lasted
280
00:19:37,323 --> 00:19:40,858
45 minutes to a hour,
which is unheard of.
281
00:19:40,925 --> 00:19:42,894
He wouldn't let me
take the stand.
282
00:19:42,961 --> 00:19:45,331
So, they ended up
finding me guilty.
283
00:19:45,397 --> 00:19:46,998
The judge laughed at me
and said
284
00:19:47,065 --> 00:19:50,202
rehabilitation was
a 70-year-old joke.
285
00:19:50,269 --> 00:19:51,636
My lawyer,
286
00:19:51,703 --> 00:19:52,971
he was there,
but he wasn't there.
287
00:19:54,772 --> 00:19:57,242
It was like I was by myself.
288
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,628
Last lawyer I had,
sitting where you sit, said,
289
00:20:17,695 --> 00:20:19,063
"Johnny D.,
don't worry about nothing,
290
00:20:19,130 --> 00:20:21,065
everything gonna be
all right."
291
00:20:23,835 --> 00:20:26,504
Then they put
that death sentence on me.
292
00:20:28,273 --> 00:20:30,275
Family run out of money.
293
00:20:30,342 --> 00:20:32,277
Money run out, he run out.
294
00:20:35,780 --> 00:20:37,849
What you gonna do different?
295
00:20:40,651 --> 00:20:41,719
Well, the first thing
we could do
296
00:20:41,786 --> 00:20:43,021
is apply for a retrial.
297
00:20:43,087 --> 00:20:45,823
I already did that.
They denied it.
298
00:20:45,890 --> 00:20:48,593
It's right there
in your files.
299
00:20:51,230 --> 00:20:55,033
Okay, then we can ask
for a reconsideration on that.
300
00:20:55,099 --> 00:20:57,202
Then a direct appeal to
the Court of Criminal Appeals
301
00:20:57,269 --> 00:20:59,704
and work our way up to
the State Supreme Court.
302
00:20:59,771 --> 00:21:02,307
If we get denied there,
we could file a Rule 32.
303
00:21:02,374 --> 00:21:04,108
Then a federal
habeas petition.
304
00:21:04,176 --> 00:21:05,411
And if all that fails,
Mr. McMillian,
305
00:21:05,477 --> 00:21:06,677
we could take your case
306
00:21:06,744 --> 00:21:08,146
all the way
to the Supreme Court.
307
00:21:08,213 --> 00:21:10,748
You don't know what you into
down here, do you?
308
00:21:10,815 --> 00:21:12,251
You think all of them
fancy words
309
00:21:12,317 --> 00:21:15,521
gonna get you somewhere
around here in Alabama?
310
00:21:15,586 --> 00:21:18,089
All they gonna do is eat
you alive and spit you out,
311
00:21:18,156 --> 00:21:19,657
just like every other
black man they do,
312
00:21:19,724 --> 00:21:21,260
when they step out of line.
313
00:21:21,326 --> 00:21:24,430
You coming around here
with them fancy suits,
314
00:21:24,496 --> 00:21:25,763
talking all white,
315
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:27,065
these people don't give
a damn about that.
316
00:21:27,131 --> 00:21:28,633
The only suit
they wanna see a nigga in
317
00:21:28,699 --> 00:21:30,302
is the suit I got on.
318
00:21:32,703 --> 00:21:34,373
Mr. McMillian, I can see
how that could be hard...
319
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,040
No, you don't!
320
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:41,346
No, you don't.
No, you don't. No, you don't.
321
00:21:43,915 --> 00:21:45,149
You a rich boy from Harvard,
322
00:21:45,217 --> 00:21:47,219
you don't know
what it is down here.
323
00:21:47,286 --> 00:21:50,688
When you're guilty
from the moment you born.
324
00:21:52,957 --> 00:21:54,592
And you can buddy up
with these white folks
325
00:21:54,659 --> 00:21:56,027
and make them laugh,
326
00:21:56,094 --> 00:21:57,695
and try to make them like you,
whatever that is,
327
00:21:57,762 --> 00:21:58,896
and you say,
"Yes, sir. No, ma'am."
328
00:21:58,963 --> 00:22:00,164
But when it's your turn,
329
00:22:00,232 --> 00:22:02,100
they ain't got to have
no fingerprints.
330
00:22:02,834 --> 00:22:05,036
No evidence.
331
00:22:05,103 --> 00:22:09,640
And the only witness they got
made the whole thing up.
332
00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:15,214
Ain't none of that matter,
when all y'all think is,
333
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,382
is I look like a man
334
00:22:18,250 --> 00:22:20,219
who could kill somebody.
335
00:22:22,954 --> 00:22:25,190
But that's not what I think.
336
00:22:30,695 --> 00:22:32,364
You know how many people
have been freed
337
00:22:32,431 --> 00:22:34,266
from Alabama death row?
338
00:22:38,069 --> 00:22:39,338
None.
339
00:22:44,809 --> 00:22:47,945
What make you think
you gonna change that?
340
00:22:52,150 --> 00:22:54,520
I ain't doing this shit again.
341
00:22:54,586 --> 00:22:56,288
- Guard.
- Mr. McMillian...
342
00:22:56,355 --> 00:22:57,788
We done here.
343
00:22:57,855 --> 00:23:00,292
Mr. McMillian, please.
344
00:23:01,426 --> 00:23:03,228
I'm here to help.
345
00:23:07,865 --> 00:23:09,301
What's up, Johnny D.?
346
00:23:09,368 --> 00:23:10,636
Say hello!
347
00:23:10,701 --> 00:23:12,304
How's it going,
my brother?
348
00:23:12,371 --> 00:23:13,605
How'd it go?
349
00:23:15,207 --> 00:23:17,842
How you treating
them needs, motherfucker?
350
00:23:39,565 --> 00:23:41,132
Johnny D.?
351
00:23:42,668 --> 00:23:44,536
Johnny D., you there?
352
00:23:44,603 --> 00:23:45,937
'Sup, Herb?
353
00:23:46,871 --> 00:23:48,273
Ray there?
354
00:23:50,642 --> 00:23:52,944
Ray.
355
00:23:53,010 --> 00:23:55,414
Unavailable at the moment.
356
00:23:56,615 --> 00:23:58,183
Where you at?
357
00:23:58,250 --> 00:24:02,119
Buckingham Palace.
I'm having tea with the Queen.
358
00:24:02,187 --> 00:24:03,355
Oh.
359
00:24:03,422 --> 00:24:04,755
She's a very nice lady.
360
00:24:04,822 --> 00:24:06,658
I'll let you know
when we done.
361
00:24:08,260 --> 00:24:12,397
Hey, Johnny D.,
what you think of the lawyer?
362
00:24:12,464 --> 00:24:14,566
I think he a kid.
363
00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:16,834
Don't know
what he's talking about.
364
00:24:16,901 --> 00:24:18,102
Making all these promises
365
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:20,205
he ain't gonna
be able to keep.
366
00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,276
I thought he was nice.
367
00:24:24,343 --> 00:24:25,377
Nice?
368
00:24:25,444 --> 00:24:28,580
The hell you want
a nice lawyer for?
369
00:24:28,647 --> 00:24:30,716
Nice ain't gonna get you shit.
370
00:24:30,781 --> 00:24:32,116
Look at Johnny D.
371
00:24:32,184 --> 00:24:34,952
Nice as a puppy,
yet he in here with us.
372
00:24:35,019 --> 00:24:36,255
Well, I didn't know
373
00:24:36,321 --> 00:24:37,788
you thought about me
like that, Ray.
374
00:24:37,855 --> 00:24:39,857
I mean,
just you nice and everything,
375
00:24:39,924 --> 00:24:42,026
you not as nice
as La Toya Jackson,
376
00:24:42,093 --> 00:24:45,129
but for an old man
on the row, you a'ight.
377
00:24:45,197 --> 00:24:47,932
Hey, I thought you said
I was the old man.
378
00:24:47,999 --> 00:24:50,968
Well, Johnny D. is old, Herb,
you more ancient.
379
00:24:51,035 --> 00:24:52,937
Sorry to tell you.
380
00:24:59,977 --> 00:25:01,812
Herb, turn that music up.
381
00:25:02,414 --> 00:25:04,048
You got it.
382
00:25:44,489 --> 00:25:46,991
All right. Here...
383
00:26:24,962 --> 00:26:26,331
Bryan,
384
00:26:27,766 --> 00:26:30,134
did you get any sleep?
385
00:26:30,202 --> 00:26:31,936
I, uh...
386
00:26:32,002 --> 00:26:33,538
I don't think
McMillian did it.
387
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,209
The State based
its entire case
388
00:26:37,275 --> 00:26:40,379
on the testimony of one man.
Ralph Myers.
389
00:26:40,445 --> 00:26:42,848
Myers spent most of his life
in and out of prison.
390
00:26:42,913 --> 00:26:44,216
When he testified,
391
00:26:44,282 --> 00:26:45,517
he was on trial
for a different murder,
392
00:26:45,584 --> 00:26:47,652
which he ended up
getting 30 years for.
393
00:26:47,719 --> 00:26:49,120
Seems like a pretty good deal.
394
00:26:49,187 --> 00:26:50,389
In his statement,
he said that
395
00:26:50,455 --> 00:26:51,956
Johnny D. approached him
at a car wash
396
00:26:52,022 --> 00:26:53,492
and forced him at gunpoint
397
00:26:53,558 --> 00:26:56,795
to drive to Jackson Cleaners
because his arm hurt.
398
00:26:56,862 --> 00:26:58,196
That sounds logical.
399
00:26:58,263 --> 00:26:59,598
When they get there,
Johnny D. tells him
400
00:26:59,664 --> 00:27:01,466
to wait in the truck
while he goes inside.
401
00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:03,568
And while he's waiting
for his kidnapper,
402
00:27:03,635 --> 00:27:05,604
he doesn't run,
he doesn't go to the police.
403
00:27:05,670 --> 00:27:08,973
Instead, he drives to the
liquor store for cigarettes,
404
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,643
and then comes back
to the crime scene.
405
00:27:11,710 --> 00:27:12,910
Excuse me?
406
00:27:12,977 --> 00:27:15,012
Myers hears gunshots,
goes inside
407
00:27:15,079 --> 00:27:16,681
and sees the body
of Ronda Morrison
408
00:27:16,748 --> 00:27:18,216
lying on the ground, face up,
409
00:27:18,283 --> 00:27:20,385
and Johnny D.
standing over her with a gun
410
00:27:20,452 --> 00:27:23,921
with some older white guy
who he claimed was in charge.
411
00:27:23,988 --> 00:27:25,424
Anyone trying
to look for him?
412
00:27:25,490 --> 00:27:27,359
Exactly.
413
00:27:27,426 --> 00:27:30,829
Oh, wait. They have one other
witness to back his testimony.
414
00:27:30,896 --> 00:27:32,597
A young black man
named Bill Hooks.
415
00:27:32,664 --> 00:27:34,466
Says he saw Johnny D.'s
low-rider truck
416
00:27:34,533 --> 00:27:36,967
leaving the cleaners
around the time of the murder.
417
00:27:37,034 --> 00:27:38,537
And that's it.
418
00:27:38,603 --> 00:27:40,205
That's all they have.
419
00:27:41,273 --> 00:27:42,940
Hmm.
420
00:27:43,007 --> 00:27:46,678
So, an 18-year-old white girl
is murdered in broad daylight
421
00:27:46,745 --> 00:27:48,979
and the sheriff can't solve
the crime for how long?
422
00:27:49,046 --> 00:27:50,582
Almost a year.
423
00:27:50,649 --> 00:27:51,917
And then some other guy
424
00:27:51,982 --> 00:27:53,485
who's charged
with a different murder
425
00:27:53,552 --> 00:27:55,119
says that he can tell them
who did it
426
00:27:55,187 --> 00:27:57,189
if he gets a lower sentence.
427
00:27:57,255 --> 00:27:58,623
And the guy that
he says did it,
428
00:27:58,690 --> 00:28:00,926
happens to be a black man
from a poor community
429
00:28:00,991 --> 00:28:02,960
that no one would think
twice about.
430
00:28:06,932 --> 00:28:09,033
There's gotta be
more evidence than this.
431
00:28:10,235 --> 00:28:12,771
I want to set a meeting
with the DA.
432
00:28:12,838 --> 00:28:16,208
Tommy Chapman just took over
for Pearson a few months ago.
433
00:28:16,274 --> 00:28:18,343
He used to be
a public defender.
434
00:28:18,410 --> 00:28:20,612
Maybe he's not in line
with the rest of 'em.
435
00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:39,531
You visit
the Mockingbird Museum yet?
436
00:28:39,598 --> 00:28:40,932
Oh. No, ma'am.
437
00:28:40,998 --> 00:28:42,132
It's the old courthouse
438
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,269
Harper Lee's daddy
used to work in.
439
00:28:44,336 --> 00:28:47,539
You can stand right where
Atticus Finch once stood.
440
00:28:51,075 --> 00:28:52,377
Mr. Stevenson?
441
00:28:52,444 --> 00:28:53,979
- I'm Tommy Chapman.
- Hey.
442
00:28:54,044 --> 00:28:55,079
- You find us okay?
- I did.
443
00:28:55,145 --> 00:28:56,882
- Good. Follow me.
- Yeah.
444
00:28:56,948 --> 00:28:58,550
Thank you, Tracy.
445
00:28:58,617 --> 00:29:01,051
A lot of people are very keen
to meet you, Mr. Stevenson.
446
00:29:01,118 --> 00:29:02,152
Oh, really?
447
00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:03,221
Well, you're a Harvard lawyer,
448
00:29:03,288 --> 00:29:04,823
who's moved to Alabama.
449
00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:07,192
You know, you start taking on
all these capital cases,
450
00:29:07,259 --> 00:29:08,393
people just wanna know
451
00:29:08,460 --> 00:29:11,128
what your intentions are,
I guess.
452
00:29:11,196 --> 00:29:12,864
We're just trying
to give legal assistance
453
00:29:12,931 --> 00:29:14,199
to people
who can't afford it.
454
00:29:14,266 --> 00:29:15,834
Well, legal assistance
is one thing,
455
00:29:15,901 --> 00:29:18,135
but trying to put convicted
murderers back on the street
456
00:29:18,203 --> 00:29:21,038
is something else entirely.
457
00:29:21,105 --> 00:29:22,440
Anyway,
you didn't come
458
00:29:22,507 --> 00:29:23,975
all the way down here
to talk about that.
459
00:29:24,041 --> 00:29:25,744
What can I do
for you today, Bryan?
460
00:29:25,810 --> 00:29:28,513
I wanted to speak to you
about Johnny D. McMillian.
461
00:29:28,580 --> 00:29:30,782
You know I wasn't part
of his prosecution, right?
462
00:29:30,849 --> 00:29:32,217
That was way before my time.
463
00:29:32,284 --> 00:29:34,386
And that's exactly
why I wanted to meet you.
464
00:29:34,452 --> 00:29:36,388
You see, I've read through the
record quite a few times now
465
00:29:36,454 --> 00:29:37,689
and I have some serious doubts
466
00:29:37,756 --> 00:29:40,124
about the reliability
of his conviction.
467
00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:43,127
If you could take a look
468
00:29:43,194 --> 00:29:44,629
at the sections
I've highlighted here,
469
00:29:44,696 --> 00:29:48,700
you'll see some problems
with Ralph Myers' testimony.
470
00:29:48,767 --> 00:29:52,771
Man, this is one of
the most outrageous crimes
471
00:29:52,837 --> 00:29:55,407
in Monroe County history.
472
00:29:55,473 --> 00:29:58,176
Your client made
a lot of people very angry.
473
00:29:58,843 --> 00:30:00,245
I understand that,
474
00:30:00,312 --> 00:30:01,913
but there are some serious
problems with this case.
475
00:30:01,980 --> 00:30:03,782
And I was hoping
that I can get your support
476
00:30:03,848 --> 00:30:06,818
to figure out
what really happened.
477
00:30:06,885 --> 00:30:08,653
I already know what happened.
478
00:30:11,790 --> 00:30:14,359
Johnny D. McMillian
was convicted by a jury
479
00:30:14,426 --> 00:30:16,561
of brutally murdering
a teenage girl
480
00:30:16,628 --> 00:30:17,629
in my community.
481
00:30:17,696 --> 00:30:18,863
And it is my job
482
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:21,900
to defend the integrity
of that conviction.
483
00:30:21,967 --> 00:30:25,737
Even if that conviction
is based on false testimony?
484
00:30:25,804 --> 00:30:27,906
You're the only one I know
who thinks that.
485
00:30:27,973 --> 00:30:30,075
Then I must be the only one
who read that record
486
00:30:30,140 --> 00:30:32,611
because it's pretty obvious.
487
00:30:36,748 --> 00:30:39,584
That man caused
a lot of pain.
488
00:30:39,651 --> 00:30:43,153
A lot of pain
for folks around here.
489
00:30:43,221 --> 00:30:45,991
And if you go digging
in those wounds,
490
00:30:46,057 --> 00:30:50,462
you're gonna be making
a lot of people very unhappy.
491
00:30:50,528 --> 00:30:52,631
Well, it isn't my job
to make people happy.
492
00:30:52,697 --> 00:30:55,600
It's to achieve justice
for my client.
493
00:30:59,638 --> 00:31:00,805
Well...
494
00:31:02,574 --> 00:31:04,342
Ralph Myers' two confessions
495
00:31:04,409 --> 00:31:07,412
and a statement
from Bill Hooks.
496
00:31:09,047 --> 00:31:10,315
I asked for copies
497
00:31:10,382 --> 00:31:11,883
of all the police
and witness statements.
498
00:31:11,950 --> 00:31:13,284
That's what you're holding.
499
00:31:13,351 --> 00:31:14,819
This is a joke.
Where's the rest of it?
500
00:31:14,886 --> 00:31:17,188
That's what's relevant
to the McMillian case.
501
00:31:17,255 --> 00:31:18,590
If you want more,
you'll have to file
502
00:31:18,657 --> 00:31:20,225
a discovery motion
with the court,
503
00:31:20,291 --> 00:31:22,661
just like anybody else.
504
00:31:22,727 --> 00:31:25,597
Thanks for coming by today,
Mr. Stevenson.
505
00:31:27,032 --> 00:31:28,233
Expect that motion soon.
506
00:31:28,299 --> 00:31:31,236
I'll look forward to it,
Counselor.
507
00:31:31,302 --> 00:31:33,838
You oughta check out
the Mockingbird Museum
508
00:31:33,905 --> 00:31:35,473
on your way out of town.
509
00:31:35,540 --> 00:31:37,709
It's one of the great
civil rights landmarks
510
00:31:37,776 --> 00:31:38,777
of the South.
511
00:31:40,645 --> 00:31:41,846
Hmm.
512
00:31:53,925 --> 00:31:55,326
Keep in line.
513
00:32:01,099 --> 00:32:02,267
Helping a black man
514
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:03,568
convicted of killing
a white girl
515
00:32:03,635 --> 00:32:05,236
is political suicide
in that county.
516
00:32:05,303 --> 00:32:06,571
I'm sure he's being
reminded of that
517
00:32:06,638 --> 00:32:08,206
by whoever got him his job.
518
00:32:08,273 --> 00:32:09,474
The way he was talking,
519
00:32:09,541 --> 00:32:10,942
I don't even think
he read the record.
520
00:32:11,009 --> 00:32:12,444
That doesn't surprise me.
521
00:32:12,510 --> 00:32:16,281
Hey, Kris, Bobby,
come on in and get your snack.
522
00:32:16,347 --> 00:32:17,549
Okay.
523
00:32:17,615 --> 00:32:18,650
I'm gonna stop
by Jackson Cleaners
524
00:32:18,717 --> 00:32:20,385
on my way to meet his family.
525
00:32:20,452 --> 00:32:22,220
Okay. If I don't hear
from you by morning,
526
00:32:22,287 --> 00:32:23,421
I'll send a rescue party.
527
00:32:23,488 --> 00:32:26,958
- I hope that's a joke.
- Me, too.
528
00:32:27,025 --> 00:32:28,827
But just be careful, okay?
529
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,974
That's him.
530
00:33:51,109 --> 00:33:53,245
- You the lawyer?
- Yes, ma'am.
531
00:33:53,311 --> 00:33:54,746
My name is Bryan Stevenson.
532
00:33:54,813 --> 00:33:57,148
I'm Johnny D.'s wife, Minnie.
533
00:33:57,216 --> 00:33:58,583
Pleasure to meet you.
534
00:34:01,419 --> 00:34:03,087
Hmm.
535
00:34:03,154 --> 00:34:05,890
Thank you so much for driving
all the way out here.
536
00:34:05,957 --> 00:34:09,928
Most lawyers
barely make time to call.
537
00:34:09,994 --> 00:34:14,699
This is our younger son, John.
Our baby girl, Jackie.
538
00:34:14,766 --> 00:34:17,368
I hope you don't mind,
a few of our neighbors
539
00:34:17,435 --> 00:34:19,205
stopped by to hear
what you got to say.
540
00:34:19,271 --> 00:34:22,208
Oh. Just a few?
541
00:34:22,274 --> 00:34:23,408
Come on. You'll be all right.
542
00:34:23,474 --> 00:34:24,342
Okay.
543
00:34:30,148 --> 00:34:33,952
Hey, now,
we ain't gonna get nowhere
544
00:34:34,018 --> 00:34:37,289
with everybody quacking
at the same time.
545
00:34:37,355 --> 00:34:39,591
Now, let Mr. Stevenson talk.
546
00:34:41,526 --> 00:34:42,760
Um...
547
00:34:42,827 --> 00:34:45,964
It's a pleasure
to meet all of you.
548
00:34:47,498 --> 00:34:48,833
Thank you.
549
00:34:50,001 --> 00:34:52,170
Now, I know you all
have a lot of questions,
550
00:34:52,238 --> 00:34:54,572
but I really would love
to hear from you guys first,
551
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:56,441
just to get
a better understanding
552
00:34:56,507 --> 00:34:58,310
of your perspective on things.
553
00:34:58,376 --> 00:35:00,378
Our perspective is
ain't no way
554
00:35:00,445 --> 00:35:02,380
Johnny D. did this crime.
555
00:35:03,715 --> 00:35:05,750
The morning
that girl was killed,
556
00:35:05,817 --> 00:35:07,752
we was all having
a fish fry here
557
00:35:07,819 --> 00:35:10,121
to raise money
for the church.
558
00:35:10,189 --> 00:35:11,589
Johnny D. was here.
559
00:35:11,656 --> 00:35:12,991
Morning till night.
560
00:35:13,057 --> 00:35:15,026
Working on his truck
with John.
561
00:35:16,594 --> 00:35:18,596
You were with your dad
that day?
562
00:35:18,663 --> 00:35:20,266
Yeah, we was up
at 6:00 in the morning
563
00:35:20,332 --> 00:35:21,666
to put the truck on the rack.
564
00:35:21,733 --> 00:35:23,101
Jimmy was there, too.
565
00:35:23,167 --> 00:35:28,374
Yep. We had that tranny
cleaned out by 9:30.
566
00:35:28,439 --> 00:35:30,775
Now,
how he supposed to kidnap
567
00:35:30,842 --> 00:35:34,346
some crazy white man
all the way in Evergreen,
568
00:35:34,412 --> 00:35:36,547
then drive back
to Jackson Cleaners
569
00:35:36,614 --> 00:35:38,716
to kill that girl at 10:15
570
00:35:38,783 --> 00:35:40,718
if his truck ain't got
no transmission?
571
00:35:40,785 --> 00:35:41,786
Hello.
572
00:35:44,356 --> 00:35:47,425
How many of you all were
with Walter that morning?
573
00:35:55,667 --> 00:35:58,469
My husband could have never
done this, no kind of way.
574
00:35:58,536 --> 00:36:00,004
Whether we was
with him or not,
575
00:36:00,071 --> 00:36:01,873
he is just not like that.
576
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:03,309
Well, everybody know
they went after him
577
00:36:03,375 --> 00:36:04,442
'cause of that woman.
578
00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:09,580
Sorry, Minnie.
579
00:36:10,915 --> 00:36:12,184
It's okay.
580
00:36:13,419 --> 00:36:15,119
It ain't no secret.
581
00:36:17,021 --> 00:36:18,290
A few months
before the murder,
582
00:36:18,357 --> 00:36:19,691
Johnny D. got caught
583
00:36:19,757 --> 00:36:21,859
messing around with
a white woman in town.
584
00:36:21,926 --> 00:36:23,494
When her husband
find out about it,
585
00:36:23,561 --> 00:36:25,331
he made sure everybody knew.
586
00:36:25,397 --> 00:36:29,335
People started talking,
and the stories kept growing.
587
00:36:29,401 --> 00:36:31,035
He went from being a cheat,
588
00:36:31,102 --> 00:36:32,338
to a drug dealer,
589
00:36:32,404 --> 00:36:34,239
to head of the Dixie Mafia.
590
00:36:34,306 --> 00:36:36,442
So, by the time somebody
call him a murderer,
591
00:36:36,507 --> 00:36:38,177
ain't nobody thought twice
about it.
592
00:36:38,243 --> 00:36:40,011
They can call it
what they want,
593
00:36:40,078 --> 00:36:42,580
this is just another way
to lynch a black man.
594
00:36:42,647 --> 00:36:43,848
Amen.
595
00:36:44,416 --> 00:36:46,318
Amen.
596
00:36:46,385 --> 00:36:49,455
There ain't no excuse for what my
husband did to me and this family.
597
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,656
Damn fool hurt me bad.
598
00:36:54,792 --> 00:36:57,862
But he still
the daddy of my kids.
599
00:36:57,929 --> 00:36:59,864
And I really don't know
what I'm supposed to tell them
600
00:36:59,931 --> 00:37:01,499
about staying out of trouble
601
00:37:01,566 --> 00:37:03,134
when you can be
in your own house,
602
00:37:03,202 --> 00:37:04,403
minding your own business,
603
00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:06,037
surrounded by
your entire family,
604
00:37:06,104 --> 00:37:08,773
and they still going to put
some murder on you.
605
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,243
That's right.
606
00:37:11,310 --> 00:37:12,844
It's not just Dad.
607
00:37:14,346 --> 00:37:17,682
We feel like they put us all
on death row, too.
608
00:37:17,749 --> 00:37:20,084
Baby...
609
00:37:20,151 --> 00:37:23,621
I can only imagine the pain
that you're going through.
610
00:37:23,688 --> 00:37:25,123
But I'm gonna
do everything I can.
611
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:27,426
The last lawyer was talking
just as big as you.
612
00:37:27,493 --> 00:37:28,693
John...
613
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,397
Then they took
all our money and split.
614
00:37:31,463 --> 00:37:32,964
Why you different?
615
00:37:34,366 --> 00:37:38,370
Well, our organization
will cover all legal fees,
616
00:37:38,437 --> 00:37:42,040
so none of you will ever
have to pay a penny.
617
00:37:44,876 --> 00:37:46,345
Now, it's clear to me
that this trial
618
00:37:46,412 --> 00:37:48,679
was constructed with lies,
619
00:37:48,746 --> 00:37:51,250
and based off everything
that I've seen,
620
00:37:51,316 --> 00:37:52,518
I think we could build a case
621
00:37:52,583 --> 00:37:55,354
strong enough
to bring Johnny D. home.
622
00:37:55,421 --> 00:37:58,956
And I'm not gonna stop
until I've done that.
623
00:38:02,894 --> 00:38:06,931
Well, you seem like
good people to me.
624
00:38:06,998 --> 00:38:09,700
But Johnny D.'s the one
you gonna have to convince.
625
00:38:13,505 --> 00:38:14,939
I don't know
about the rest of y'all,
626
00:38:15,006 --> 00:38:18,444
but I was sold on,
"Y'all won't pay a penny."
627
00:38:19,844 --> 00:38:21,180
Amen.
628
00:38:27,553 --> 00:38:29,254
Mr. Stevenson?
629
00:38:29,321 --> 00:38:30,855
Call me Bryan.
630
00:38:31,457 --> 00:38:32,757
Okay.
631
00:38:34,393 --> 00:38:36,894
This is my friend, Darnell.
632
00:38:36,961 --> 00:38:39,130
He has something he wants
to talk to you about.
633
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:42,967
Go on.
634
00:38:45,237 --> 00:38:47,772
I think I can prove
he's innocent.
635
00:38:49,674 --> 00:38:51,376
You heard of Bill Hooks,
right?
636
00:38:52,177 --> 00:38:53,178
Yeah.
637
00:38:53,245 --> 00:38:54,846
He testified that he saw
Johnny D.'s truck
638
00:38:54,912 --> 00:38:56,681
at the cleaners that morning.
639
00:38:56,747 --> 00:38:58,983
Bill didn't see shit.
640
00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:01,052
He made the whole thing up.
641
00:39:02,321 --> 00:39:03,688
How do you know that?
642
00:39:03,754 --> 00:39:04,989
'Cause I was with him.
643
00:39:05,056 --> 00:39:07,259
We was working
at the shop together.
644
00:39:08,327 --> 00:39:10,329
- The morning of the murder?
- Yes, sir.
645
00:39:10,395 --> 00:39:12,663
We was fixing the head gasket
on the Camaro
646
00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:14,065
from 8:00 in the morning
647
00:39:14,132 --> 00:39:16,868
till right after
we closed for lunch.
648
00:39:16,934 --> 00:39:20,004
He was right next to me when
them sirens was going off.
649
00:39:21,306 --> 00:39:22,807
Why would he lie?
650
00:39:22,874 --> 00:39:25,710
'Cause the snitch
cut a deal with the cops.
651
00:39:25,776 --> 00:39:27,346
They had him locked up
for burglary.
652
00:39:27,412 --> 00:39:29,414
And the day he give his
statement, he walk out free.
653
00:39:29,481 --> 00:39:31,115
All charges dropped.
654
00:39:31,183 --> 00:39:32,650
We told
one of the other lawyers,
655
00:39:32,717 --> 00:39:34,586
and they ain't do nothing
about it.
656
00:39:34,652 --> 00:39:36,455
Hmm.
657
00:39:36,522 --> 00:39:39,224
Would you be willing to sign a
statement we could use in court?
658
00:39:43,928 --> 00:39:46,164
Police will see my name?
659
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,768
It'd be on the record.
660
00:39:52,471 --> 00:39:57,808
Darnell, exposing yourself
like this is not easy.
661
00:39:57,875 --> 00:39:59,311
But with your testimony,
662
00:39:59,378 --> 00:40:02,314
we can file a motion
to reopen Johnny D.'s case.
663
00:40:04,216 --> 00:40:05,417
Darnell,
664
00:40:06,784 --> 00:40:08,420
we need you.
665
00:40:12,624 --> 00:40:14,692
Okay, yeah.
666
00:40:16,495 --> 00:40:17,929
Yeah, that'll do it.
667
00:40:18,729 --> 00:40:20,031
All right.
668
00:40:37,282 --> 00:40:38,749
Good morning.
669
00:40:38,816 --> 00:40:40,751
Good morning.
670
00:40:40,818 --> 00:40:43,020
- Thanks for seeing me again.
- Mmm-hmm.
671
00:40:45,490 --> 00:40:47,226
I know the last time we met,
672
00:40:47,292 --> 00:40:48,793
things didn't go
quite the way I was...
673
00:40:48,859 --> 00:40:51,729
I can't believe
you met my family.
674
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:54,633
Drove down that dirt road,
675
00:40:54,700 --> 00:40:56,301
crammed up
in that little house,
676
00:40:56,368 --> 00:40:57,636
talked to all my people,
677
00:40:57,703 --> 00:41:00,171
say you gonna try
to fight for me.
678
00:41:04,676 --> 00:41:06,311
That mean a lot.
679
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:10,781
It meant a lot to me, too.
680
00:41:12,417 --> 00:41:13,485
Oh, uh...
681
00:41:14,885 --> 00:41:17,788
Minnie wanted me
to give this to you.
682
00:41:20,791 --> 00:41:22,059
And if you don't mind,
683
00:41:22,126 --> 00:41:24,429
I have something
I wanna show you.
684
00:41:26,831 --> 00:41:29,066
It's a statement
from Darnell Houston,
685
00:41:29,133 --> 00:41:30,935
saying that
he was with Bill Hooks
686
00:41:31,002 --> 00:41:33,238
three miles away
at the time of the murder.
687
00:41:33,305 --> 00:41:35,940
So, there's no way he could
have seen your truck there.
688
00:41:36,007 --> 00:41:37,609
That's good, right?
689
00:41:37,676 --> 00:41:39,411
That's very good.
690
00:41:39,478 --> 00:41:42,780
I'm gonna submit this with
a motion for a new trial.
691
00:41:50,188 --> 00:41:52,156
I know you talked to,
uh, Minnie.
692
00:41:52,224 --> 00:41:55,260
She told you
what I did to her.
693
00:41:55,327 --> 00:41:57,262
I ain't got no excuse
for cheating on a woman
694
00:41:57,329 --> 00:42:00,097
good as that one,
good as she been to me.
695
00:42:01,266 --> 00:42:03,934
I don't know why
she's standing by me.
696
00:42:04,001 --> 00:42:05,237
She's standing by you
697
00:42:05,304 --> 00:42:07,406
because she knows
you shouldn't be in here.
698
00:42:08,340 --> 00:42:10,041
And so do I.
699
00:42:11,543 --> 00:42:14,045
I know you didn't kill
Ronda Morrison.
700
00:42:14,111 --> 00:42:17,582
And I can help you prove that
in court if you'll let me.
701
00:42:24,822 --> 00:42:26,924
You know, you done met
my whole family.
702
00:42:26,991 --> 00:42:29,528
You know everything about 'em.
703
00:42:29,594 --> 00:42:32,129
I don't know nothing
about you, though.
704
00:42:32,197 --> 00:42:34,098
- What would you like to know?
- I wanna know it all.
705
00:42:34,165 --> 00:42:38,035
Like why you...
Why you doing this?
706
00:42:38,102 --> 00:42:39,471
- Why am I a lawyer?
- No, no, no.
707
00:42:39,538 --> 00:42:41,273
Why is you a lawyer
down here in Alabama,
708
00:42:41,340 --> 00:42:44,909
taking these cases that ain't
nobody gonna pay you for?
709
00:42:52,484 --> 00:42:55,320
I grew up down a road
just like yours.
710
00:42:56,521 --> 00:42:59,558
I played soccer
in a dirt field
711
00:42:59,624 --> 00:43:01,226
with the pigs and chickens.
712
00:43:02,594 --> 00:43:05,230
Used to pump sewage
from my yard.
713
00:43:09,133 --> 00:43:12,002
When I was a teenager,
my grandfather was murdered
714
00:43:12,069 --> 00:43:14,138
over a black-and-white TV.
715
00:43:16,274 --> 00:43:19,211
We kept waiting for someone
to show up to help.
716
00:43:21,413 --> 00:43:23,013
They never did.
717
00:43:24,949 --> 00:43:27,285
And that's when
I realized that,
718
00:43:27,352 --> 00:43:30,054
outside my community,
nobody cared.
719
00:43:31,390 --> 00:43:33,592
'Cause to them,
he's just another black man
720
00:43:33,658 --> 00:43:35,293
killed in the projects.
721
00:43:39,431 --> 00:43:41,366
I know what it's like
to be in the shadows.
722
00:43:44,302 --> 00:43:46,405
That's why I'm doing this.
723
00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:51,942
That's a pretty good reason.
724
00:44:01,386 --> 00:44:02,554
Okay.
725
00:44:04,989 --> 00:44:06,425
Okay...
726
00:44:08,860 --> 00:44:10,462
Let's get to work.
727
00:44:13,598 --> 00:44:14,999
Okay.
728
00:44:31,416 --> 00:44:34,118
- Hey, yo, Johnny D.?
- Mmm-hmm?
729
00:44:34,186 --> 00:44:36,288
You signing up
with that lawyer?
730
00:44:36,354 --> 00:44:37,988
I'm gonna give him a try.
731
00:44:38,055 --> 00:44:41,493
Seem like everybody on the
row working with him now.
732
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,595
I'm starting
to feel left out.
733
00:44:44,696 --> 00:44:46,598
Is he really that good?
734
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,034
I hope so.
735
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:51,536
What you think, Herbert?
736
00:44:51,603 --> 00:44:54,372
Should I just dump my guy
and make the switch over?
737
00:44:57,776 --> 00:44:59,311
Herb, you hear me?
738
00:45:00,044 --> 00:45:01,446
You there?
739
00:45:03,215 --> 00:45:04,583
I'm here.
740
00:45:06,218 --> 00:45:07,719
Herb, you okay?
741
00:45:12,958 --> 00:45:16,060
They set my date.
742
00:45:23,602 --> 00:45:25,169
Look here, Herb,
don't you worry about nothing now.
743
00:45:25,237 --> 00:45:28,038
Everything gonna be a'ight.
Okay?
744
00:45:28,105 --> 00:45:29,608
Ain't nothing over yet.
745
00:45:29,674 --> 00:45:31,943
You got Bryan
working for you now.
746
00:45:33,678 --> 00:45:36,080
I ain't...
I ain't like you guys.
747
00:45:36,146 --> 00:45:38,148
I deserve what's coming.
748
00:45:38,216 --> 00:45:41,118
All right, now, see, Herb...
749
00:45:41,186 --> 00:45:44,422
there you go
talking out your ass.
750
00:45:44,489 --> 00:45:47,392
Now, you fought
for this country.
751
00:45:47,459 --> 00:45:50,060
And they threw you in the bag
like the trash.
752
00:45:51,363 --> 00:45:54,533
That war made you sick
in your head, man.
753
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,502
You supposed to be
in the hospital.
754
00:45:57,569 --> 00:45:58,770
Not here.
755
00:46:02,641 --> 00:46:06,143
When I told the cops that
stopped me I was innocent,
756
00:46:06,211 --> 00:46:08,213
do you know what they said?
757
00:46:10,147 --> 00:46:12,116
"One of you niggers did it
758
00:46:12,984 --> 00:46:15,119
and if it wasn't you,
759
00:46:15,186 --> 00:46:17,322
then you taking one
for your homie."
760
00:46:19,558 --> 00:46:23,261
Johnny D. prosecutor say
he know he killed the girl,
761
00:46:23,328 --> 00:46:27,465
because of the way
he looked in his mug shot.
762
00:46:27,532 --> 00:46:30,669
You don't deserve this shit
more than any of us, Herb.
763
00:46:33,972 --> 00:46:37,208
A girl is dead
because of me.
764
00:46:40,779 --> 00:46:43,748
That don't give nobody
the right to kill you back.
765
00:46:47,052 --> 00:46:49,955
Herbert was 18
when he went to Vietnam.
766
00:46:50,021 --> 00:46:51,289
He was the only survivor
767
00:46:51,356 --> 00:46:53,992
in an ambush that killed
his whole platoon.
768
00:46:54,059 --> 00:46:55,961
After that, he had
a mental breakdown,
769
00:46:56,027 --> 00:46:57,329
attempted suicide,
770
00:46:57,395 --> 00:46:59,564
and was sent home
on an honorable discharge.
771
00:46:59,631 --> 00:47:02,701
Back at home, he continued
to suffer from nightmares,
772
00:47:02,767 --> 00:47:04,168
crying fits,
773
00:47:04,235 --> 00:47:05,437
running out of his house,
774
00:47:05,503 --> 00:47:08,206
screaming "incoming"
to his neighbors.
775
00:47:08,273 --> 00:47:10,174
His lawyer didn't even mention
military service,
776
00:47:10,241 --> 00:47:11,876
or mental trauma to the jury.
777
00:47:11,943 --> 00:47:13,078
A few months
after the trial,
778
00:47:13,143 --> 00:47:15,112
he was disbarred
for misconduct.
779
00:47:15,180 --> 00:47:16,581
'Course he was.
780
00:47:19,050 --> 00:47:21,920
Okay, what can we do?
781
00:47:21,987 --> 00:47:24,422
Well, since he's already been
through the appeals process,
782
00:47:24,489 --> 00:47:25,857
the statute of limitations
783
00:47:25,924 --> 00:47:28,560
is gonna make it hard
for a judge to listen.
784
00:47:30,362 --> 00:47:32,063
We're gonna have to try
and make him.
785
00:47:33,398 --> 00:47:35,165
I'll get started
on the motion tonight.
786
00:47:35,233 --> 00:47:36,768
- Hello?
- Okay.
787
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:39,437
It's for you, Mom.
788
00:47:39,504 --> 00:47:42,607
Oh, thank you, sweetie.
Hello?
789
00:47:42,674 --> 00:47:44,075
You the bitch
790
00:47:44,141 --> 00:47:46,077
working for that
nigger lawyer?
791
00:47:46,143 --> 00:47:47,612
Who the hell is this?
792
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:49,314
The guy who put the bomb
under your house,
793
00:47:49,381 --> 00:47:51,016
gonna blow your family
all to hell,
794
00:47:51,082 --> 00:47:53,418
if you don't stop working
for that nigger Johnny D.
795
00:47:55,086 --> 00:47:56,354
Everybody, out of the house.
796
00:47:56,421 --> 00:47:58,623
- What's going on?
- I'll tell you outside.
797
00:48:16,574 --> 00:48:18,643
They didn't find anything.
798
00:48:19,277 --> 00:48:21,146
And they're sure?
799
00:48:21,212 --> 00:48:22,881
They said they're sure.
800
00:48:22,947 --> 00:48:24,649
They checked the
basement, too, like you said?
801
00:48:24,716 --> 00:48:25,950
Said they checked
the basement.
802
00:48:26,017 --> 00:48:27,218
Okay.
803
00:48:28,586 --> 00:48:30,689
All right,
we're gonna move on now.
804
00:48:33,925 --> 00:48:37,028
Okay, baby,
let's get you to bed.
805
00:48:37,095 --> 00:48:38,430
Yo, come on.
806
00:48:46,971 --> 00:48:49,908
When you asked me
to do this thing with you...
807
00:48:51,743 --> 00:48:55,480
I knew that
I'd lose some friends.
808
00:48:56,848 --> 00:48:59,918
Have people talk shit
behind my back,
809
00:48:59,984 --> 00:49:01,820
or to my face.
810
00:49:03,688 --> 00:49:04,989
I don't need people
to like me,
811
00:49:05,056 --> 00:49:07,459
as long as I'm doing
what I'm supposed to do.
812
00:49:11,396 --> 00:49:13,865
But threatening my family...
813
00:49:17,769 --> 00:49:21,339
Eva, you know I'd...
I'd never blame you
814
00:49:21,406 --> 00:49:23,575
if you needed to stop.
815
00:49:26,344 --> 00:49:27,779
I don't want my son
growing up
816
00:49:27,846 --> 00:49:30,615
knowing that his mom
stopped doing what was right
817
00:49:30,682 --> 00:49:34,018
just because she was scared
of some crazy bigot.
818
00:49:39,891 --> 00:49:41,593
Okay?
819
00:49:41,659 --> 00:49:44,295
What are we gonna do
about McMillian?
820
00:49:48,366 --> 00:49:51,770
We start the investigation
from scratch.
821
00:49:51,836 --> 00:49:54,906
Find anyone in town
who's willing to talk.
822
00:49:56,641 --> 00:49:58,643
Maybe people will stop
trying to kill us
823
00:49:58,710 --> 00:50:01,679
once they realize
how charming we are.
824
00:50:10,054 --> 00:50:12,390
I just wanted to
ask you a couple questions
825
00:50:12,457 --> 00:50:15,160
about the Ronda Morrison
murder.
826
00:50:15,227 --> 00:50:16,828
It's just, uh...
827
00:50:16,895 --> 00:50:18,429
You were
on the witness list
828
00:50:18,496 --> 00:50:19,597
for the Ronda Morrison trial
a few years back.
829
00:50:19,664 --> 00:50:23,501
Sorry.
Can't help you with that.
830
00:50:23,568 --> 00:50:25,436
Is there anything,
anything at all that you feel
831
00:50:25,503 --> 00:50:26,971
- comfortable talking about...
- You know, look...
832
00:50:27,038 --> 00:50:29,474
if you are not working
for that poor girl's family,
833
00:50:29,541 --> 00:50:31,142
then I ain't got nothing
to say to you.
834
00:50:31,210 --> 00:50:32,744
Sorry, sweetie.
835
00:50:34,379 --> 00:50:35,980
Officer Ikner?
836
00:50:37,081 --> 00:50:39,584
I ain't no officer no more.
837
00:50:39,651 --> 00:50:42,320
I'm a lawyer representing
Johnny D. McMillian.
838
00:50:42,387 --> 00:50:45,657
I understand you were the
first officer on the scene.
839
00:50:51,129 --> 00:50:52,497
I was right.
840
00:50:52,564 --> 00:50:54,699
The fish fry was on Saturday,
November 1st.
841
00:50:54,766 --> 00:50:56,302
The same day as the murder.
842
00:50:56,367 --> 00:50:57,602
They put these up
all over town.
843
00:50:59,704 --> 00:51:02,407
I could kiss you, Deb.
844
00:51:07,445 --> 00:51:09,013
We're planning
to grow this into something
845
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,049
the whole country
will be talking about.
846
00:51:11,115 --> 00:51:15,153
And you can say that it all
started in your building.
847
00:51:15,221 --> 00:51:18,423
What exactly kind of work
do you do?
848
00:51:19,457 --> 00:51:21,359
We're just helping people.
849
00:51:27,065 --> 00:51:28,733
- It looks good.
- It's perfect.
850
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,034
My client, Herbert Richardson,
851
00:51:30,101 --> 00:51:31,469
was recommended
for a Medal of Valor
852
00:51:31,536 --> 00:51:32,971
for disarming a bomb
in Vietnam.
853
00:51:33,037 --> 00:51:35,039
We got a tip that
a few of your employees
854
00:51:35,106 --> 00:51:36,275
could back his alibi.
855
00:51:36,342 --> 00:51:37,775
Vivian Clark was
one of the teenagers
856
00:51:37,842 --> 00:51:39,911
who were sexually abused
at your facility.
857
00:51:39,978 --> 00:51:41,247
No, I'm not an attorney.
858
00:51:41,313 --> 00:51:43,915
But I promise you, your son
is in very good hands.
859
00:51:46,417 --> 00:51:48,553
We'll let you know.
860
00:51:48,620 --> 00:51:50,521
Good talking to you.
861
00:51:52,123 --> 00:51:55,026
Equal Justice Initiative.
This is Brenda.
862
00:51:55,093 --> 00:51:59,130
Yeah. Okay. Yes. Uh-huh.
Just one moment.
863
00:51:59,198 --> 00:52:00,899
Darnell Houston.
864
00:52:03,335 --> 00:52:05,069
Hello, Darnell?
865
00:52:06,372 --> 00:52:09,874
Whoa. Whoa, whoa. Slow down,
slow down, slow down.
866
00:52:10,608 --> 00:52:12,477
Where are you?
867
00:52:14,479 --> 00:52:18,583
- Are you okay?
- No, sir, I'm not.
868
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:22,453
Okay, Darnell, let's go talk
in the car. Okay?
869
00:52:25,990 --> 00:52:28,559
How in the hell they locking
me up for perjury,
870
00:52:28,626 --> 00:52:31,696
if alls I did was
say the truth, hmm?
871
00:52:31,763 --> 00:52:34,233
I knew I shouldn't have
signed that paper, man.
872
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:35,667
Shouldn't have
listened to you.
873
00:52:35,733 --> 00:52:37,735
No. What they did to you
was completely illegal.
874
00:52:37,802 --> 00:52:38,937
Okay? Now, I'm gonna
talk to the DA
875
00:52:39,003 --> 00:52:40,538
and get all these charges
dismissed.
876
00:52:40,605 --> 00:52:41,906
This will never happen again.
877
00:52:41,973 --> 00:52:44,410
Well, how the hell
do you know, hmm?
878
00:52:44,475 --> 00:52:46,778
You can't control these guys.
879
00:52:46,844 --> 00:52:49,580
They arrested me
in the middle of my shift,
880
00:52:49,647 --> 00:52:51,115
in front of my boss.
881
00:52:51,183 --> 00:52:54,186
I don't even know
if I got a job tomorrow.
882
00:52:59,157 --> 00:53:02,627
I feel bad, what they doing
to Johnny D...
883
00:53:04,696 --> 00:53:07,098
but I'm just trying
to survive.
884
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:11,236
I can't fight these guys, man.
885
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:14,138
Go on and find somebody else.
886
00:53:14,206 --> 00:53:18,042
Listen, Darnell.
Think about Johnny D., okay?
887
00:53:18,109 --> 00:53:20,578
Think about his family.
They need you.
888
00:53:20,645 --> 00:53:22,814
Give me some time
to work on this.
889
00:53:30,389 --> 00:53:32,191
That's my ride.
890
00:53:33,491 --> 00:53:35,827
Tell Johnny D. I'm sorry.
891
00:54:09,794 --> 00:54:11,662
I need to speak with you.
892
00:54:12,830 --> 00:54:15,066
Oh, hey, Bryan.
893
00:54:16,268 --> 00:54:18,102
Have you met Sheriff Tate?
894
00:54:20,738 --> 00:54:23,308
Who ordered the arrest
of my witness?
895
00:54:23,375 --> 00:54:25,344
When people make
false statements
896
00:54:25,411 --> 00:54:26,611
concerning this case,
897
00:54:26,677 --> 00:54:27,845
they're gonna
be held accountable.
898
00:54:27,912 --> 00:54:29,481
You can't arrest someone
for perjury
899
00:54:29,547 --> 00:54:31,450
without evidence that a false
statement has been made.
900
00:54:31,517 --> 00:54:34,453
Hang on. Are you representing
Mr. Houston now, too?
901
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,020
Yes, I am.
902
00:54:36,087 --> 00:54:38,089
His statement contradicts
Bill Hooks' entire testimony.
903
00:54:38,156 --> 00:54:40,691
Hooks ain't the State's main witness.
Ralph Myers is.
904
00:54:40,758 --> 00:54:43,027
Alabama Code 12-21-222
905
00:54:43,094 --> 00:54:45,730
requires corroboration
of accomplice testimony.
906
00:54:45,797 --> 00:54:46,964
So, without Hooks,
907
00:54:47,031 --> 00:54:48,900
the conviction
wouldn't be valid.
908
00:54:51,403 --> 00:54:52,637
You know, I went down to see
909
00:54:52,703 --> 00:54:55,139
Ronda Morrison's momma
yesterday.
910
00:54:55,873 --> 00:54:57,209
And she's in tears.
911
00:54:57,276 --> 00:55:00,546
She kept asking me why
some lawyer from up north
912
00:55:00,611 --> 00:55:01,913
would come down here
913
00:55:01,979 --> 00:55:05,049
and make them relive
all this hell again.
914
00:55:05,116 --> 00:55:06,552
Well, you can tell her
it's because
915
00:55:06,617 --> 00:55:08,086
Johnny D. didn't kill
her daughter.
916
00:55:08,152 --> 00:55:09,188
And whoever did
917
00:55:09,254 --> 00:55:11,622
- is still out there somewhere.
- Mmm-hmm.
918
00:55:12,757 --> 00:55:16,295
I know how desperate
you must be
919
00:55:16,361 --> 00:55:20,598
to fulfill your fantasy
of who we are down here.
920
00:55:20,665 --> 00:55:22,934
Just a bunch of corrupt
Southern racists
921
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,069
framing niggers for murder.
922
00:55:25,136 --> 00:55:27,972
And you here to save the day.
923
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,975
Well, hell, you can believe
that if you want to,
924
00:55:31,042 --> 00:55:33,378
but I know that
Johnny D. killed that girl,
925
00:55:33,445 --> 00:55:35,046
and he's gonna answer for it.
926
00:55:35,113 --> 00:55:38,850
And how do you know that?
You have no hard evidence.
927
00:55:38,916 --> 00:55:40,118
You based your entire case
928
00:55:40,185 --> 00:55:41,353
on the word
of an indicted felon,
929
00:55:41,420 --> 00:55:42,588
who had every incentive
930
00:55:42,653 --> 00:55:43,888
to tell you
what you wanted to hear.
931
00:55:43,955 --> 00:55:45,690
Ralph Myers testified
on his own accord.
932
00:55:45,756 --> 00:55:47,392
And it made no sense.
933
00:55:47,459 --> 00:55:51,230
He couldn't finish a sentence
without contradicting himself.
934
00:55:51,296 --> 00:55:53,731
Now, the charges against
Darnell Houston are baseless.
935
00:55:53,798 --> 00:55:55,933
They'll never stand up
in court.
936
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,370
They should be
dropped immediately.
937
00:56:02,574 --> 00:56:04,209
Okay.
938
00:56:05,877 --> 00:56:07,979
Is that okay with you, Tommy?
939
00:56:08,045 --> 00:56:09,714
Sure.
940
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:11,350
Well, it doesn't
really matter,
941
00:56:11,416 --> 00:56:14,386
now the court denied your
motion to reopen the case.
942
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,088
Wait, what was that?
943
00:56:17,155 --> 00:56:19,991
Oh, you didn't get the order?
944
00:56:20,057 --> 00:56:21,792
Well, the judge is down
in Mobile now,
945
00:56:21,859 --> 00:56:25,029
so, you know, sometimes
they have mail issues.
946
00:56:25,096 --> 00:56:26,831
Listen, you can tell
Mr. Houston
947
00:56:26,898 --> 00:56:28,132
the charges against him
are being dropped.
948
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:29,901
I can do that much for y'all,
949
00:56:29,967 --> 00:56:32,437
but anything else will have
to be raised on appeal.
950
00:56:39,010 --> 00:56:41,313
Thanks
for stopping by, Counselor.
951
00:57:23,020 --> 00:57:24,590
Something wrong, Officer?
952
00:57:24,656 --> 00:57:26,824
Step out of the vehicle.
953
00:57:26,891 --> 00:57:29,894
I don't understand.
I wasn't speeding.
954
00:57:29,961 --> 00:57:31,896
I said
step out of the vehicle.
955
00:57:32,631 --> 00:57:33,965
I'll get out of the car,
956
00:57:34,031 --> 00:57:37,236
but first can you tell me
why you stopped me?
957
00:57:37,302 --> 00:57:38,769
- Get out of the goddamn car!
- Whoa!
958
00:57:38,836 --> 00:57:40,905
Whoa, whoa.
Okay, okay. Hold on.
959
00:57:40,972 --> 00:57:42,173
- Come on!
- Okay.
960
00:57:42,241 --> 00:57:43,841
Okay. I'm taking off
my seat belt.
961
00:57:43,908 --> 00:57:44,909
Get it! Come on!
962
00:57:44,976 --> 00:57:46,143
Okay. I'm opening up the door.
963
00:57:46,211 --> 00:57:47,379
- I'm stepping out.
- Faster! Come on!
964
00:57:47,446 --> 00:57:48,580
Okay. I have nothing
in my hands.
965
00:57:48,647 --> 00:57:49,814
Turn around!
966
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,083
- Yes. Okay. Okay.
- Hands on the car!
967
00:57:58,523 --> 00:58:00,791
You don't have to have
the gun pointed at me.
968
00:58:00,858 --> 00:58:01,859
I'm not a threat.
969
00:58:01,926 --> 00:58:04,795
Shut your damn mouth, boy.
970
00:58:04,862 --> 00:58:06,964
Hey, brother...
971
00:58:07,031 --> 00:58:08,799
you ought to be careful
with your words
972
00:58:08,866 --> 00:58:10,835
when you got a gun
at your head.
973
00:58:14,573 --> 00:58:15,741
Let's go, John.
974
00:58:24,949 --> 00:58:26,451
Why did you stop me?
975
00:58:26,518 --> 00:58:28,320
We're letting you go.
976
00:58:29,488 --> 00:58:31,256
You should be happy.
977
00:58:58,350 --> 00:59:00,885
Even if they drop
them charges,
978
00:59:00,951 --> 00:59:02,754
Darnell ain't gonna testify
979
00:59:02,820 --> 00:59:04,189
after what they done
done to him.
980
00:59:06,057 --> 00:59:08,660
I know we took a big hit.
We did. But we just need
981
00:59:08,727 --> 00:59:10,362
to gather more evidence
for another motion.
982
00:59:10,429 --> 00:59:12,397
No, no. They gonna block it.
They gonna block it.
983
00:59:12,464 --> 00:59:15,767
If they can put me on the row
for a year without no trial,
984
00:59:15,833 --> 00:59:18,303
they can do
whatever they wanna do.
985
00:59:18,370 --> 00:59:20,505
They put you on death row
before your trial?
986
00:59:20,572 --> 00:59:22,106
Yeah.
987
00:59:22,173 --> 00:59:23,874
Sheriff drove me himself.
988
00:59:23,941 --> 00:59:25,943
Said, "I'm gonna give you a
little taste of what it's like
989
00:59:26,010 --> 00:59:29,080
unless you confess."
990
00:59:29,146 --> 00:59:30,649
Why are you
just now telling me this?
991
00:59:30,716 --> 00:59:33,452
This is how it is down here.
992
00:59:33,518 --> 00:59:36,588
Been like this
long as I can remember.
993
00:59:44,229 --> 00:59:46,631
They messing with you,
ain't they?
994
00:59:50,402 --> 00:59:53,938
Yeah, they are. They're not
making it easy on me.
995
00:59:56,241 --> 00:59:58,410
I got a plan for you, though.
996
00:59:59,143 --> 01:00:00,412
I'm all ears.
997
01:00:01,879 --> 01:00:03,147
Here's what I think
we should do.
998
01:00:03,215 --> 01:00:06,150
I think you should
train up another lawyer,
999
01:00:06,218 --> 01:00:07,352
'cause I'm gonna need somebody
1000
01:00:07,419 --> 01:00:10,622
just in case
they take you out.
1001
01:00:10,689 --> 01:00:13,558
Oh, it's like that?
1002
01:00:13,625 --> 01:00:16,127
Like that. It's like that.
1003
01:00:16,194 --> 01:00:17,829
Thought I had a friend.
1004
01:00:17,895 --> 01:00:19,598
Ain't no friends in here.
1005
01:00:19,664 --> 01:00:20,532
Cold world.
1006
01:00:20,599 --> 01:00:21,566
Yeah.
1007
01:00:24,636 --> 01:00:26,904
So, we ain't got Darnell.
1008
01:00:28,540 --> 01:00:29,907
What's the next move?
1009
01:00:33,678 --> 01:00:36,046
I think we should talk
to Ralph Myers.
1010
01:00:40,017 --> 01:00:41,253
- Walter...
- No.
1011
01:00:41,319 --> 01:00:43,455
Just listen to me
for a second.
1012
01:00:44,222 --> 01:00:46,157
I know it's risky,
1013
01:00:46,224 --> 01:00:48,226
but the only way to find out
what he really knows
1014
01:00:48,293 --> 01:00:50,195
is for me to get him talking.
1015
01:00:51,061 --> 01:00:53,030
I know what he know.
1016
01:00:55,065 --> 01:00:57,436
You know
what that man did to me?
1017
01:00:59,036 --> 01:01:01,105
Took my life away from me...
1018
01:01:02,207 --> 01:01:05,177
to save his own ass.
1019
01:01:05,243 --> 01:01:07,712
All he gonna
give you is lies.
1020
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:11,516
I promise
I'm gonna be careful.
1021
01:01:19,990 --> 01:01:21,259
Get in line.
1022
01:01:39,878 --> 01:01:41,480
Mr. Myers.
1023
01:01:42,614 --> 01:01:44,182
You Bobby?
1024
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:46,618
I'm Bryan.
1025
01:01:47,652 --> 01:01:49,888
Maybe later.
1026
01:01:49,955 --> 01:01:53,391
Okay. Do you wanna sit down?
1027
01:01:53,458 --> 01:01:55,660
You gonna buy me
a Coke first?
1028
01:01:55,727 --> 01:01:56,895
Or you gonna make me stare
1029
01:01:56,962 --> 01:01:58,996
at them vending machines
all day?
1030
01:02:00,198 --> 01:02:02,701
Sure. What do you want?
1031
01:02:02,767 --> 01:02:04,603
Sunkist orange.
1032
01:02:04,669 --> 01:02:05,904
Okay.
1033
01:02:05,971 --> 01:02:08,507
And some Jujyfruits,
if they got 'em.
1034
01:02:11,710 --> 01:02:14,646
I just want to say thanks
for meeting me, Mr. Myers.
1035
01:02:24,890 --> 01:02:26,123
Can we start by talking about
1036
01:02:26,191 --> 01:02:28,326
your testimony
against Johnny D.?
1037
01:02:28,894 --> 01:02:30,228
No.
1038
01:02:31,263 --> 01:02:33,965
I ain't talking about him.
1039
01:02:34,031 --> 01:02:35,901
That's the only reason
why I'm here.
1040
01:02:35,967 --> 01:02:38,236
You don't like it, leave.
1041
01:02:40,137 --> 01:02:41,306
Oh, don't look so sad.
1042
01:02:41,373 --> 01:02:42,641
We can talk
about other things.
1043
01:02:42,707 --> 01:02:44,376
I love to talk.
1044
01:02:44,442 --> 01:02:46,778
My wife says if I got paid
for every word I said,
1045
01:02:46,845 --> 01:02:49,781
we'd be a couple
of billionaires by now.
1046
01:02:52,116 --> 01:02:53,952
Oh, yeah?
1047
01:02:54,019 --> 01:02:55,420
How long you been married?
1048
01:02:55,487 --> 01:02:57,455
Long enough to pop out
a couple of kids,
1049
01:02:57,522 --> 01:02:59,858
and watch her
turn 'em all against me.
1050
01:02:59,925 --> 01:03:01,426
You got kids?
1051
01:03:01,493 --> 01:03:02,661
Me? No.
1052
01:03:03,662 --> 01:03:05,530
But Johnny D. does.
1053
01:03:07,097 --> 01:03:07,999
Yeah.
1054
01:03:08,065 --> 01:03:09,301
The thing about kids is
1055
01:03:09,367 --> 01:03:11,336
they ain't nothing
like having a dog.
1056
01:03:11,403 --> 01:03:12,904
It's a totally
different deal.
1057
01:03:12,971 --> 01:03:16,241
I wish somebody had told me
that in the first place.
1058
01:03:16,308 --> 01:03:19,578
And my kids, they think
they got it so bad.
1059
01:03:19,644 --> 01:03:22,180
They ain't seen nothing
like I seen.
1060
01:03:22,247 --> 01:03:24,749
Try making it as a foster kid
your whole life.
1061
01:03:24,816 --> 01:03:26,918
As soon as you figure out
one shitty parent,
1062
01:03:26,985 --> 01:03:29,254
they moving you to a new one.
1063
01:03:32,156 --> 01:03:33,458
Uh...
1064
01:03:33,525 --> 01:03:35,260
I'm sorry.
1065
01:03:35,327 --> 01:03:37,462
I'm sure that wasn't easy.
1066
01:03:42,801 --> 01:03:44,703
How many kids he got?
1067
01:03:46,071 --> 01:03:48,138
Johnny D. has three.
1068
01:03:51,676 --> 01:03:54,346
Mr. Myers, I know you made
a deal with the State.
1069
01:03:54,412 --> 01:03:55,680
But I don't think
they told you
1070
01:03:55,747 --> 01:03:57,582
Johnny D. was gonna die
because of it.
1071
01:03:58,883 --> 01:04:02,187
That must not be
an easy thing to carry.
1072
01:04:02,253 --> 01:04:03,421
And I'm hoping
there's a part of you
1073
01:04:03,488 --> 01:04:05,724
that wants to
make things right.
1074
01:04:09,761 --> 01:04:12,597
Can we please talk
about your testimony?
1075
01:04:17,569 --> 01:04:19,437
Hey. Hey!
1076
01:04:28,380 --> 01:04:31,282
From the day they moved
my ass into Escambia,
1077
01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:32,584
for something I'm telling you
1078
01:04:32,651 --> 01:04:34,953
I ain't had
nothing to do with,
1079
01:04:35,020 --> 01:04:38,189
all them police wanted to talk
about was Ronda Morrison.
1080
01:04:38,256 --> 01:04:40,091
It was Morrison this,
Morrison that.
1081
01:04:40,157 --> 01:04:44,396
Sometimes four or five of 'em
in the room at the same time.
1082
01:04:44,462 --> 01:04:46,163
They were questioning you
about her
1083
01:04:46,231 --> 01:04:47,766
the day you were arrested?
1084
01:04:50,268 --> 01:04:52,404
Alls I'm saying is,
1085
01:04:52,470 --> 01:04:54,606
ain't nobody cared
about a damn thing
1086
01:04:54,673 --> 01:04:56,341
besides who killed that girl.
1087
01:04:56,408 --> 01:04:58,243
And when people care
about a thing that much,
1088
01:04:58,309 --> 01:05:00,712
they'll do anything
to get what they want.
1089
01:05:02,547 --> 01:05:03,782
You know they'll kill you
1090
01:05:03,848 --> 01:05:05,450
if you get to the bottom
of this, right?
1091
01:05:06,551 --> 01:05:08,153
Wait. Where are you going?
1092
01:05:08,219 --> 01:05:10,155
We done here, Bobby.
1093
01:05:10,221 --> 01:05:12,223
Thanks for the Jujys.
1094
01:05:13,091 --> 01:05:15,694
Ready, boss.
1095
01:05:17,862 --> 01:05:19,097
Myers said
he was questioned
1096
01:05:19,164 --> 01:05:20,331
about Ronda Morrison
1097
01:05:20,398 --> 01:05:21,933
the day he was arrested,
on June 3rd.
1098
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,768
But the only statement
they presented in court
1099
01:05:23,835 --> 01:05:26,071
was recorded
almost two months later.
1100
01:05:26,137 --> 01:05:29,741
Do you think they're hiding
his first statement somewhere?
1101
01:05:29,808 --> 01:05:31,776
If they are, it might be
at the Escambia courthouse
1102
01:05:31,843 --> 01:05:33,645
with the files
from his other case.
1103
01:05:33,712 --> 01:05:35,947
You know anyone over there?
1104
01:05:36,014 --> 01:05:37,582
I do.
1105
01:05:41,386 --> 01:05:43,455
That's everything
we got on Myers.
1106
01:05:43,521 --> 01:05:45,056
You can make copies
over there.
1107
01:05:45,123 --> 01:05:47,525
- Thank you, ma'am.
- Sure, baby.
1108
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,396
He's cute. Married?
1109
01:05:51,463 --> 01:05:53,832
- Married to his work.
- Ugh.
1110
01:05:53,898 --> 01:05:54,966
How's Uncle Mickey doing?
1111
01:06:03,775 --> 01:06:04,776
Miss Miller.
1112
01:06:05,643 --> 01:06:07,912
Can I take a copy of these?
1113
01:06:07,979 --> 01:06:10,715
They ain't paying me enough
to stop you.
1114
01:06:23,361 --> 01:06:27,398
Did you find the transcript
from Myers' first statement?
1115
01:06:27,465 --> 01:06:30,301
- Yeah.
- Ah, thank you.
1116
01:06:36,641 --> 01:06:37,642
What?
1117
01:06:45,917 --> 01:06:47,253
I understand that, Sheriff.
1118
01:06:47,318 --> 01:06:48,620
That's Myers.
1119
01:06:48,686 --> 01:06:50,054
And that's what
I'm trying to tell you.
1120
01:06:50,121 --> 01:06:52,724
Because, I'm gonna
be honest with ya,
1121
01:06:52,791 --> 01:06:55,160
I don't know a damn thing.
1122
01:06:55,227 --> 01:06:56,294
Is that right?
1123
01:06:56,361 --> 01:06:57,529
And that's Tate.
1124
01:06:57,595 --> 01:06:58,997
Yes, sir.
1125
01:06:59,063 --> 01:07:01,032
It's righter than anything
I've ever said.
1126
01:07:01,099 --> 01:07:03,301
And you would
take a polygraph test
1127
01:07:03,368 --> 01:07:05,103
to the fact that
you do not know
1128
01:07:05,170 --> 01:07:06,437
who killed Ronda Morrison?
1129
01:07:06,504 --> 01:07:08,840
That's right, sir.
I will.
1130
01:07:08,907 --> 01:07:11,342
Would you face the person
who came in here and testified that you...
1131
01:07:11,409 --> 01:07:14,646
I will face any damn
body in this world on that,
1132
01:07:14,712 --> 01:07:16,447
because it's a stone lie.
1133
01:07:16,514 --> 01:07:20,018
And if you asking me to frame
an innocent man for murder,
1134
01:07:20,084 --> 01:07:23,521
well, that just ain't something
I'm willing to do.
1135
01:07:26,391 --> 01:07:27,892
Holy shit.
1136
01:07:57,689 --> 01:07:59,991
Herb, you all right
over there?
1137
01:08:02,393 --> 01:08:03,695
No.
1138
01:08:05,496 --> 01:08:06,898
Now, listen here,
1139
01:08:06,965 --> 01:08:08,600
you gonna have to get
your mind off tomorrow.
1140
01:08:08,666 --> 01:08:11,603
Bryan is working on that
as we speak.
1141
01:08:12,971 --> 01:08:14,672
Now, you know
how these courts here is.
1142
01:08:14,739 --> 01:08:16,474
They wait
till the last minute,
1143
01:08:16,541 --> 01:08:17,976
but you gonna get that stay.
1144
01:08:18,042 --> 01:08:21,746
Why did I make that bomb?
1145
01:08:21,813 --> 01:08:23,781
Herb,
don't go there now.
1146
01:08:23,848 --> 01:08:25,317
Why'd I do that?
1147
01:08:25,383 --> 01:08:28,220
I wasn't trying
to hurt nobody.
1148
01:08:28,287 --> 01:08:30,121
Herb, I know.
1149
01:08:30,189 --> 01:08:34,326
Why am I so stupid?
1150
01:08:34,392 --> 01:08:36,328
No, no, you ain't stupid.
1151
01:08:36,394 --> 01:08:38,029
That war got you sick,
1152
01:08:38,096 --> 01:08:39,497
and you still sick.
1153
01:08:39,564 --> 01:08:41,799
Girl wasn't supposed
to come by and pick it up.
1154
01:08:41,866 --> 01:08:45,069
Listen, Herb. I want you to...
1155
01:08:45,136 --> 01:08:47,239
She wasn't supposed to come by
and pick it up.
1156
01:08:47,306 --> 01:08:50,242
This what we gonna do, Herb.
We gonna slow your mind down.
1157
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:52,244
Remember what
we practiced now.
1158
01:08:52,311 --> 01:08:54,812
What we do?
1159
01:08:54,879 --> 01:08:57,283
- Deep breaths.
- Yeah.
1160
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:59,184
Come on, do that with me now.
1161
01:08:59,251 --> 01:09:01,552
Deep breaths.
1162
01:09:04,256 --> 01:09:05,523
In and out.
1163
01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:11,496
Now in.
1164
01:09:13,498 --> 01:09:15,166
Now close your eyes.
1165
01:09:16,601 --> 01:09:18,736
Get away from all this.
1166
01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,408
No more walls.
1167
01:09:22,473 --> 01:09:24,176
No more guards.
1168
01:09:25,677 --> 01:09:27,812
No more wars to fight.
1169
01:09:29,914 --> 01:09:31,816
Just you, out in the open.
1170
01:09:33,117 --> 01:09:34,852
Fresh air on your face.
1171
01:09:41,592 --> 01:09:43,828
Look at them pine trees.
1172
01:09:45,830 --> 01:09:48,733
They've been growing
since 'fore we was born.
1173
01:09:51,002 --> 01:09:54,138
And they gonna keep growing
even after we gone.
1174
01:09:57,075 --> 01:09:59,110
And they done been through
the same shit
1175
01:09:59,178 --> 01:10:00,545
we done been through.
1176
01:10:03,848 --> 01:10:06,551
But they still dancing
in the breeze.
1177
01:10:16,127 --> 01:10:17,662
Can you see 'em?
1178
01:10:20,031 --> 01:10:21,200
Yeah.
1179
01:10:22,066 --> 01:10:23,167
Good.
1180
01:10:24,936 --> 01:10:27,538
Now I want you to think
about nothing else.
1181
01:10:27,605 --> 01:10:30,342
Just keep your mind on that.
1182
01:10:30,409 --> 01:10:32,610
And everything
gonna be a'ight.
1183
01:10:49,894 --> 01:10:51,596
I need
Strickland v. Washington,
1184
01:10:51,662 --> 01:10:53,865
and the affidavit
from Herbert's sergeant.
1185
01:11:09,448 --> 01:11:11,250
Let's send it.
1186
01:11:18,122 --> 01:11:19,624
Now what?
1187
01:11:22,327 --> 01:11:23,895
We wait.
1188
01:11:44,383 --> 01:11:46,017
EJI.
This is Bryan Stevenson.
1189
01:11:46,084 --> 01:11:47,652
Mr. Stevenson,
1190
01:11:47,718 --> 01:11:49,388
the court has
just entered an order
1191
01:11:49,455 --> 01:11:52,123
in case number 895395.
1192
01:11:52,191 --> 01:11:54,025
The motion
for a stay of execution
1193
01:11:54,092 --> 01:11:55,793
and petition
for writ of certiorari
1194
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:57,595
have been denied.
1195
01:11:57,662 --> 01:12:00,365
We'll fax copies of the order
over to your office shortly.
1196
01:12:02,568 --> 01:12:04,570
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
1197
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:22,287
He asked me to be there.
1198
01:12:25,022 --> 01:12:26,157
Okay.
1199
01:12:27,024 --> 01:12:28,327
I'll drive you, then.
1200
01:12:41,172 --> 01:12:44,409
Come on, Herbert.
We gotta go.
1201
01:13:06,130 --> 01:13:09,234
Can... Can I say bye
to my friends?
1202
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:28,152
When it get too much for you,
1203
01:13:29,621 --> 01:13:31,822
you take them deep breaths.
1204
01:13:32,823 --> 01:13:34,926
Let your mind go.
1205
01:13:37,995 --> 01:13:41,799
Wish I didn't have
to do this alone.
1206
01:13:43,734 --> 01:13:45,736
You ain't by yourself,
Herbert.
1207
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,106
We all with you.
1208
01:13:51,108 --> 01:13:53,077
Ain't that right, Ray?
1209
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,115
That's right, Herb.
You ain't rid of us yet.
1210
01:14:03,655 --> 01:14:06,123
You've been a good friend.
1211
01:14:49,967 --> 01:14:51,802
First time
in the chamber, huh?
1212
01:14:53,372 --> 01:14:54,539
Yeah.
1213
01:14:54,606 --> 01:14:57,842
Don't think too much.
You'll lose your shit.
1214
01:15:09,288 --> 01:15:11,956
Need anything,
Mr. Richardson?
1215
01:15:13,558 --> 01:15:15,960
You still gonna play my song?
1216
01:15:16,027 --> 01:15:17,962
Got it cued up and ready.
1217
01:15:19,897 --> 01:15:21,366
Thank you.
1218
01:15:34,179 --> 01:15:36,581
It's been a strange day.
1219
01:15:39,083 --> 01:15:42,387
More people asked
how they can help me today
1220
01:15:42,454 --> 01:15:45,190
than ever asked
in my whole life.
1221
01:15:52,029 --> 01:15:54,165
Do I look funny?
1222
01:15:56,067 --> 01:16:00,905
I ain't know they were gonna
shave off everything.
1223
01:16:03,074 --> 01:16:04,975
You look fine.
1224
01:16:16,788 --> 01:16:21,158
Well, most people don't get
to sit and think all day
1225
01:16:21,226 --> 01:16:24,929
about it being
their last day alive.
1226
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,468
It's different than Nam.
1227
01:16:30,702 --> 01:16:32,970
Least I had a chance there.
1228
01:16:39,778 --> 01:16:41,313
I'm sorry.
1229
01:16:46,050 --> 01:16:50,322
You the only one
cared enough to fight for me.
1230
01:16:55,227 --> 01:16:57,596
Since I don't have family,
1231
01:16:57,662 --> 01:17:00,799
I told the army
to send my flag to you,
1232
01:17:00,866 --> 01:17:02,234
if that's okay.
1233
01:17:07,506 --> 01:17:09,140
I'd be honored.
1234
01:17:18,048 --> 01:17:20,951
Can you pray with me?
1235
01:17:24,021 --> 01:17:25,524
Of course.
1236
01:17:35,966 --> 01:17:37,269
They're ready.
1237
01:17:44,276 --> 01:17:49,881
♪ On a hill far away ♪
1238
01:17:49,947 --> 01:17:55,353
♪ Stood an old rugged cross ♪
1239
01:17:55,420 --> 01:17:59,925
♪ The emblem of suffering
And shame ♪
1240
01:18:01,426 --> 01:18:05,263
♪ And I love that old cross ♪
1241
01:18:05,330 --> 01:18:09,434
♪ Where the dearest and best ♪
1242
01:18:09,501 --> 01:18:16,341
♪ For a world of lost sinners
Was slain ♪
1243
01:18:17,809 --> 01:18:21,078
♪ And I'll cherish ♪
1244
01:18:21,145 --> 01:18:26,818
♪ The old rugged cross ♪
1245
01:18:26,885 --> 01:18:29,086
♪ Till my trophies
At last I lay down... ♪
1246
01:18:29,153 --> 01:18:31,423
You, Herbert Lee Richardson,
1247
01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:33,625
shall be put to death
by electrocution
1248
01:18:33,692 --> 01:18:35,092
in the state of Alabama
1249
01:18:35,159 --> 01:18:38,062
as ordered and decreed
by Judge Jerry M. White,
1250
01:18:38,128 --> 01:18:39,898
for the murder
of Rena Mae Collins
1251
01:18:39,965 --> 01:18:42,667
on August the 16th, 1977.
1252
01:18:43,869 --> 01:18:45,937
So ordered.
1253
01:18:46,003 --> 01:18:47,739
Mr. Richardson,
1254
01:18:47,806 --> 01:18:50,609
do you have any final words
you'd like to say?
1255
01:18:55,180 --> 01:18:59,016
♪ Oh, that old rugged cross ♪
1256
01:18:59,083 --> 01:19:01,920
♪ So despised by the world ♪
1257
01:19:01,987 --> 01:19:06,090
I have no ill feeling.
1258
01:19:07,192 --> 01:19:10,795
And I hold nothing
against anyone.
1259
01:19:10,862 --> 01:19:16,501
♪ So I'll cherish
The old rugged cross ♪
1260
01:19:16,568 --> 01:19:19,337
♪ The old rugged cross ♪
1261
01:19:19,404 --> 01:19:24,576
♪ Till my trophies
At last I lay down ♪
1262
01:19:24,643 --> 01:19:27,479
♪ I lay down ♪
1263
01:19:27,546 --> 01:19:33,518
♪ I will cling
To the old rugged cross ♪
1264
01:19:35,687 --> 01:19:42,727
♪ And exchange it someday
For a crown ♪
1265
01:19:45,162 --> 01:19:49,267
♪ To the old rugged cross ♪
1266
01:19:49,334 --> 01:19:53,371
♪ I will ever be true ♪
1267
01:19:53,438 --> 01:19:59,344
♪ Its shame and reproach
Gladly bear ♪
1268
01:20:00,345 --> 01:20:05,884
♪ Then he'll call me someday ♪
1269
01:20:05,951 --> 01:20:10,522
♪ To my home far away ♪
1270
01:20:10,589 --> 01:20:13,858
♪ Where his glory ♪
1271
01:20:13,925 --> 01:20:20,130
♪ Forever I'll share ♪
1272
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:23,668
♪ So I'll cherish... ♪
1273
01:20:23,735 --> 01:20:26,838
We with you, Herbert!
We all with you!
1274
01:20:26,905 --> 01:20:28,406
We love you, Herb!
1275
01:20:28,473 --> 01:20:29,608
We all with you, Herb.
1276
01:20:29,674 --> 01:20:31,242
I'm walking with you,
Big Herb!
1277
01:20:31,309 --> 01:20:32,911
Believe in your heart, Herb.
1278
01:20:32,978 --> 01:20:34,546
We're with you, buddy!
1279
01:20:34,613 --> 01:20:35,647
Be strong, Herb!
1280
01:20:39,517 --> 01:20:44,723
♪ I will cling
To the old rugged cross ♪
1281
01:20:47,292 --> 01:20:51,963
♪ And exchange it someday ♪
1282
01:20:52,030 --> 01:20:54,164
♪ For a crown ♪
1283
01:20:54,232 --> 01:20:56,133
We love you, Herb!
1284
01:21:50,255 --> 01:21:51,456
Hey.
1285
01:23:11,469 --> 01:23:13,338
Well, I hope
this important news of yours
1286
01:23:13,404 --> 01:23:14,405
comes with some food.
1287
01:23:14,472 --> 01:23:16,341
'Cause I'm starving.
1288
01:23:17,108 --> 01:23:19,444
Sit down, Mr. Myers.
1289
01:23:21,813 --> 01:23:24,382
You was a lot nicer
the last time.
1290
01:23:28,820 --> 01:23:30,555
I heard the recording
of the first statement
1291
01:23:30,622 --> 01:23:32,423
you gave on June 3rd.
1292
01:23:33,458 --> 01:23:35,627
The one they didn't
present in court.
1293
01:23:37,662 --> 01:23:39,998
You told the sheriff
you didn't know anything
1294
01:23:40,064 --> 01:23:42,901
about Johnny D. or the murder.
1295
01:23:42,967 --> 01:23:45,470
You told him you didn't want
to frame an innocent man.
1296
01:23:45,537 --> 01:23:47,539
Do you remember saying that?
1297
01:23:49,140 --> 01:23:50,408
Now, what I'm wondering is,
1298
01:23:50,475 --> 01:23:51,609
how do you go
from knowing nothing
1299
01:23:51,676 --> 01:23:53,611
about a murder on June 3rd,
1300
01:23:53,678 --> 01:23:55,346
to becoming
the State's key witness
1301
01:23:55,413 --> 01:23:57,081
three months later?
1302
01:23:57,148 --> 01:23:58,817
What changed your mind?
1303
01:24:11,796 --> 01:24:13,598
What's that?
1304
01:24:13,665 --> 01:24:16,100
Intake log
from Holman prison.
1305
01:24:18,036 --> 01:24:19,804
On August 1st, 1987,
1306
01:24:19,871 --> 01:24:22,740
Sheriff Tate
transferred two inmates
1307
01:24:22,807 --> 01:24:26,044
from county jail
to death row.
1308
01:24:27,246 --> 01:24:29,347
Johnny D...
1309
01:24:32,417 --> 01:24:33,952
and you.
1310
01:24:40,859 --> 01:24:42,360
Did they move you
to death row
1311
01:24:42,427 --> 01:24:44,562
because you wouldn't testify
against him?
1312
01:24:49,801 --> 01:24:51,337
They executed Wayne Ritter
1313
01:24:51,402 --> 01:24:52,537
a few weeks
after you got there,
1314
01:24:52,604 --> 01:24:53,872
isn't that right?
1315
01:24:56,908 --> 01:24:58,843
I was in the witness room
when they killed
1316
01:24:58,910 --> 01:25:01,012
Herbert Richardson
Thursday night.
1317
01:25:02,447 --> 01:25:05,550
And it was the most
horrific thing
1318
01:25:05,617 --> 01:25:07,619
I've ever experienced.
1319
01:25:10,989 --> 01:25:14,926
I'm sure Ritter's execution
wasn't easy for you either.
1320
01:25:32,010 --> 01:25:35,647
They put me in the cell
closest to the kill room.
1321
01:25:38,650 --> 01:25:41,353
Middle of the night,
everybody started screaming,
1322
01:25:41,419 --> 01:25:43,087
banging on the bars.
1323
01:25:44,656 --> 01:25:45,990
And then...
1324
01:25:50,229 --> 01:25:53,665
then came the smell
of his skin burning.
1325
01:26:00,171 --> 01:26:01,873
I know that smell.
1326
01:26:05,877 --> 01:26:08,213
May I ask you what happened?
1327
01:26:12,450 --> 01:26:15,053
Seven years old.
1328
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:18,723
I was sleeping
in my foster mom's basement
1329
01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:20,758
when her heater blowed up.
1330
01:26:20,825 --> 01:26:22,961
Catched my PJ's on fire.
1331
01:26:24,196 --> 01:26:26,198
I was screaming
for two minutes straight
1332
01:26:26,265 --> 01:26:27,465
before they found me.
1333
01:26:31,502 --> 01:26:36,908
Everybody knowed that I got
a fear of being burned.
1334
01:26:36,975 --> 01:26:39,911
They knowed
what it would do to my head
1335
01:26:39,978 --> 01:26:42,513
to be in a place like that.
1336
01:26:44,082 --> 01:26:47,618
I couldn't stop shaking
all night.
1337
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,990
Curled up on the floor
like a baby.
1338
01:26:52,056 --> 01:26:55,059
Trying to breathe,
but every breath you take just...
1339
01:26:56,694 --> 01:26:59,731
You get another taste
of the man they killed.
1340
01:27:03,034 --> 01:27:06,170
You can't go through
something like that
1341
01:27:06,238 --> 01:27:07,939
and come out the same.
1342
01:27:13,212 --> 01:27:14,512
I know.
1343
01:27:19,884 --> 01:27:21,387
I called that sheriff
the next morning.
1344
01:27:21,453 --> 01:27:23,188
I told him...
1345
01:27:23,255 --> 01:27:27,125
I would say whatever he wanted
to get me out.
1346
01:27:28,427 --> 01:27:30,762
And he took my statement,
1347
01:27:30,828 --> 01:27:32,997
moved me to county
the next day.
1348
01:27:37,869 --> 01:27:39,971
Mr. Myers, we're going
to court very soon
1349
01:27:40,038 --> 01:27:43,509
to try to get Johnny D.
the retrial he deserves.
1350
01:27:43,574 --> 01:27:45,910
And I'd like you
to take the stand.
1351
01:27:48,579 --> 01:27:49,881
No.
1352
01:27:50,782 --> 01:27:52,717
No, sir. No, sir.
1353
01:27:52,784 --> 01:27:55,053
They are using you.
1354
01:27:55,119 --> 01:27:56,854
They're using you
to condemn a man
1355
01:27:56,921 --> 01:27:59,624
that you have much more
in common with than you think.
1356
01:28:00,558 --> 01:28:01,659
And if there's any part of you
1357
01:28:01,726 --> 01:28:02,994
that wants
to make things right,
1358
01:28:03,061 --> 01:28:05,230
this is the last chance
you're gonna get.
1359
01:28:14,540 --> 01:28:16,241
The tension is high
this morning
1360
01:28:16,308 --> 01:28:18,609
here at the Baldwin
County Courthouse
1361
01:28:18,676 --> 01:28:20,078
where a hearing
is being held
1362
01:28:20,144 --> 01:28:21,879
to see if the man convicted
1363
01:28:21,946 --> 01:28:24,949
of killing Ronda Morrison
deserves a new trial.
1364
01:28:25,016 --> 01:28:27,419
Miss Morrison
was only 18 years old
1365
01:28:27,486 --> 01:28:29,954
when she was murdered
at Jackson Cleaners
1366
01:28:30,021 --> 01:28:31,756
in Monroeville, Alabama.
1367
01:28:31,823 --> 01:28:34,326
Many have taken
the two-hour drive here
1368
01:28:34,393 --> 01:28:36,961
from Monroeville
to show their support.
1369
01:28:37,028 --> 01:28:39,298
Extra security precautions
were implemented
1370
01:28:39,364 --> 01:28:42,633
due to the highly emotional
nature of this case.
1371
01:28:46,104 --> 01:28:48,773
Ronda Morrison's parents said
they have no doubt
1372
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:50,975
Mr. McMillian
is the man responsible
1373
01:28:51,042 --> 01:28:52,877
for the murder
of their daughter.
1374
01:28:52,944 --> 01:28:54,712
But members
of McMillian's family
1375
01:28:54,779 --> 01:28:56,781
claim they have the wrong man.
1376
01:28:56,848 --> 01:28:58,283
Much of today's hearing
1377
01:28:58,350 --> 01:29:00,718
is hinging on the testimony
of Ralph Myers,
1378
01:29:00,785 --> 01:29:03,121
a convicted felon,
who was the key witness
1379
01:29:03,188 --> 01:29:05,923
against McMillian
in the original trial.
1380
01:29:34,752 --> 01:29:37,623
What we'll be talking
about today is obviously
1381
01:29:37,688 --> 01:29:39,358
an emotional issue.
1382
01:29:39,424 --> 01:29:42,194
And if any of y'all
don't think you can maintain
1383
01:29:42,261 --> 01:29:44,996
a reasonable degree
of decorum,
1384
01:29:45,062 --> 01:29:47,965
then I would ask you
to leave now.
1385
01:29:51,969 --> 01:29:55,773
All right, if we're ready,
then, we will proceed.
1386
01:29:57,509 --> 01:29:59,578
Mr. Stevenson.
1387
01:29:59,645 --> 01:30:01,180
Thank you, Your Honor.
1388
01:30:12,156 --> 01:30:14,091
The State's case
against Walter McMillian
1389
01:30:14,158 --> 01:30:16,994
turned entirely on the
testimony of Ralph Myers.
1390
01:30:17,061 --> 01:30:18,263
There was no other evidence
1391
01:30:18,330 --> 01:30:19,997
to establish
Mr. McMillian's guilt.
1392
01:30:20,064 --> 01:30:22,833
No physical evidence
linking him to the crime.
1393
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:24,636
No motive. No witnesses.
1394
01:30:24,702 --> 01:30:26,971
Only the word of one man.
1395
01:30:28,873 --> 01:30:31,709
We call Ralph Myers
to the stand.
1396
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:57,336
Sir, please stand
1397
01:30:57,402 --> 01:30:58,403
and place your right hand
on the Bible.
1398
01:31:02,006 --> 01:31:03,475
You swear to tell truth,
the whole truth,
1399
01:31:03,542 --> 01:31:05,943
and nothing but the truth,
so help you God?
1400
01:31:07,812 --> 01:31:09,080
Mr. Myers?
1401
01:31:09,747 --> 01:31:12,317
Oh, yes. Sorry.
1402
01:31:12,384 --> 01:31:14,586
The guards got me up
about 2:00 in the morning
1403
01:31:14,653 --> 01:31:16,053
to get me out here.
1404
01:31:28,367 --> 01:31:30,801
Mr. Myers, did you testify
against Walter McMillian
1405
01:31:30,868 --> 01:31:32,537
in August of 1988?
1406
01:31:33,605 --> 01:31:35,307
Is that when it was?
1407
01:31:36,642 --> 01:31:38,776
According to the record, yes.
1408
01:31:39,711 --> 01:31:42,481
Okay, then, sure.
If you say so.
1409
01:31:45,584 --> 01:31:48,553
And what did you say to
the jury when you testified?
1410
01:31:52,923 --> 01:31:56,728
I don't think
I can fully remember, sir,
1411
01:31:56,794 --> 01:31:59,498
to be honest with you. Sorry.
1412
01:32:00,865 --> 01:32:02,334
No, that's quite all right.
1413
01:32:02,401 --> 01:32:04,835
I have a transcript
of your testimony right here.
1414
01:32:17,215 --> 01:32:19,251
At the trial,
do you remember testifying
1415
01:32:19,318 --> 01:32:20,985
that you were
unwillingly made part of
1416
01:32:21,052 --> 01:32:24,222
a capital murder and robbery
on November 1st, 1986,
1417
01:32:24,289 --> 01:32:26,525
when Walter McMillian
saw you at a car wash
1418
01:32:26,591 --> 01:32:29,227
and asked you to drive his
truck because his arm hurt?
1419
01:32:30,895 --> 01:32:32,764
Yes, sir, I guess so.
1420
01:32:32,830 --> 01:32:35,467
Do you remember saying
that you drove Mr. McMillian
1421
01:32:35,534 --> 01:32:37,134
to Jackson Cleaners,
1422
01:32:37,202 --> 01:32:39,036
subsequently went
into the building,
1423
01:32:39,103 --> 01:32:41,138
and saw Mr. McMillian
with a gun,
1424
01:32:41,206 --> 01:32:43,608
standing over the body
of Ronda Morrison?
1425
01:32:45,876 --> 01:32:48,547
Yes, sir.
1426
01:32:48,613 --> 01:32:51,048
Mr. Myers, was the testimony
that you gave
1427
01:32:51,115 --> 01:32:53,552
at Walter McMillian's
trial true?
1428
01:33:03,729 --> 01:33:04,796
I don't know.
1429
01:33:08,533 --> 01:33:09,634
You don't know?
1430
01:33:13,003 --> 01:33:15,106
I don't think I remember.
1431
01:33:37,161 --> 01:33:42,200
Mr. Myers, do you know
who Walter McMillian is?
1432
01:33:43,869 --> 01:33:45,203
Yes, sir.
1433
01:33:46,605 --> 01:33:48,240
Is he in this room?
1434
01:33:49,474 --> 01:33:51,376
Yes, sir.
1435
01:33:54,912 --> 01:33:57,215
Could you point him out
for us?
1436
01:34:20,372 --> 01:34:23,941
I'd like to ask you
that question one more time.
1437
01:34:24,008 --> 01:34:25,444
Was the testimony
that you gave
1438
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:29,079
at Walter McMillian's
trial true?
1439
01:34:37,923 --> 01:34:39,858
No, sir. Not at all.
1440
01:34:39,925 --> 01:34:42,427
Order, please.
1441
01:34:43,662 --> 01:34:44,930
Did you see
Mr. McMillian on the day
1442
01:34:44,995 --> 01:34:46,832
Ronda Morrison was murdered?
1443
01:34:46,898 --> 01:34:48,266
No, sir.
1444
01:34:48,333 --> 01:34:50,702
Did you drive his truck
to Monroeville that day?
1445
01:34:50,769 --> 01:34:52,304
No. Never did.
1446
01:34:52,370 --> 01:34:53,971
Did you go
into Jackson Cleaners
1447
01:34:54,038 --> 01:34:55,340
and see Mr. McMillian
1448
01:34:55,407 --> 01:34:57,542
standing over the body
of Ronda Morrison?
1449
01:34:58,243 --> 01:34:59,945
Absolutely not.
1450
01:35:04,549 --> 01:35:05,684
Thank you.
1451
01:35:07,051 --> 01:35:08,753
No further questions,
Your Honor.
1452
01:35:14,359 --> 01:35:16,495
Mr. Myers...
1453
01:35:16,561 --> 01:35:20,298
how do we know you ain't upset
with the deal you got,
1454
01:35:20,365 --> 01:35:23,167
and you feel like somehow by
1455
01:35:23,235 --> 01:35:27,405
changing your story,
might help to get you out?
1456
01:35:29,006 --> 01:35:32,577
Because that just
don't make no sense, sir.
1457
01:35:32,644 --> 01:35:36,481
Who do you think is deciding
what happens to me?
1458
01:35:36,548 --> 01:35:38,450
If I live or die?
1459
01:35:38,517 --> 01:35:41,186
It ain't me.
It ain't Johnny D.
1460
01:35:41,253 --> 01:35:43,889
It's all y'all
that's deciding that, so,
1461
01:35:43,955 --> 01:35:45,891
how's my saying
what I'm saying
1462
01:35:45,957 --> 01:35:47,359
gonna help to get me out?
1463
01:35:47,425 --> 01:35:50,395
If anything, it's gonna
help get me to death row.
1464
01:35:51,863 --> 01:35:56,735
But I don't care. Y'all can do
what you want with me.
1465
01:35:56,801 --> 01:35:58,803
'Cause me...
1466
01:35:58,870 --> 01:36:00,639
I can look in your face
1467
01:36:00,705 --> 01:36:04,009
or anybody else's face,
dead eye to eyeball,
1468
01:36:04,074 --> 01:36:07,746
and say that anything
I told about Mr. McMillian...
1469
01:36:09,681 --> 01:36:11,416
was a lie.
1470
01:36:12,450 --> 01:36:14,419
He's here 'cause of me.
1471
01:36:17,589 --> 01:36:19,958
And I sure would appreciate
you sending him home
1472
01:36:20,025 --> 01:36:22,360
to his kids where he belongs.
1473
01:36:27,832 --> 01:36:29,568
We submit a copy
of the official log
1474
01:36:29,634 --> 01:36:31,436
from the police officer
that stopped by the fish fry,
1475
01:36:31,503 --> 01:36:34,606
confirming Walter McMillian
was there with his family.
1476
01:36:34,673 --> 01:36:37,141
Mr. Myers said that
the body was faceup
1477
01:36:37,208 --> 01:36:38,843
near the front counter.
1478
01:36:38,910 --> 01:36:43,481
But I found her facedown
in the back, by the bathroom.
1479
01:36:43,548 --> 01:36:46,184
Submitting exculpatory records
from Ralph Myers' stay
1480
01:36:46,251 --> 01:36:48,219
at the Taylor Hardin
psychiatric hospital.
1481
01:36:48,286 --> 01:36:50,154
Which the State
did not disclose
1482
01:36:50,221 --> 01:36:52,457
to defense counsel.
1483
01:36:52,524 --> 01:36:54,593
Mr. Myers was
my patient at the time
1484
01:36:54,659 --> 01:36:57,295
and he claimed
on numerous occasions
1485
01:36:57,362 --> 01:36:59,898
that he was being threatened
with the electric chair,
1486
01:36:59,965 --> 01:37:01,199
if he didn't say
1487
01:37:01,266 --> 01:37:02,901
what the authorities
wanted to hear.
1488
01:37:02,968 --> 01:37:05,537
The prosecutor
asked me to testify
1489
01:37:05,604 --> 01:37:08,673
that she had been drugged
from the front to the back.
1490
01:37:08,740 --> 01:37:12,410
And I told him,
"I ain't gonna lie in court."
1491
01:37:12,477 --> 01:37:14,446
And then, well,
a few weeks later,
1492
01:37:14,512 --> 01:37:16,881
I got fired
from the department.
1493
01:37:18,883 --> 01:37:20,752
All of the evidence
presented today
1494
01:37:20,819 --> 01:37:23,688
would have been critical
to the outcome of this case.
1495
01:37:23,755 --> 01:37:25,824
And its exclusion
is a clear violation
1496
01:37:25,890 --> 01:37:27,225
of Brady v. Maryland
1497
01:37:27,292 --> 01:37:30,195
and Mr. McMillian's
constitutional rights.
1498
01:37:30,261 --> 01:37:32,731
The truth has not been told
in this case.
1499
01:37:32,797 --> 01:37:36,301
And I understand
a lot of time has gone by,
1500
01:37:36,368 --> 01:37:37,535
but I personally believe
1501
01:37:37,602 --> 01:37:40,305
that it's never too late
for justice.
1502
01:37:40,372 --> 01:37:42,107
We ask the court
to grant our motion
1503
01:37:42,172 --> 01:37:44,676
and order a new trial
for Mr. McMillian.
1504
01:37:46,311 --> 01:37:47,912
Thank you, Your Honor.
1505
01:37:50,281 --> 01:37:52,350
Thank you, Counselors.
1506
01:37:52,417 --> 01:37:53,752
We'll reconvene
at a later date,
1507
01:37:53,818 --> 01:37:56,221
once I've had time
to look through everything.
1508
01:37:57,322 --> 01:37:58,790
All rise.
1509
01:38:04,429 --> 01:38:05,597
Tell you the truth,
I didn't think
1510
01:38:05,664 --> 01:38:07,365
he was gonna
go through with it.
1511
01:38:07,432 --> 01:38:10,268
Honestly, for a second there,
I didn't think so either.
1512
01:38:15,373 --> 01:38:18,243
I can't even tell you
how I feel right now.
1513
01:38:20,979 --> 01:38:22,247
Thank you.
1514
01:38:32,290 --> 01:38:34,659
We got a few minutes
if y'all wanna say hi.
1515
01:38:43,535 --> 01:38:45,470
We leave in five minutes.
1516
01:38:45,537 --> 01:38:47,505
What's up, old man?
1517
01:38:47,572 --> 01:38:49,541
- You did great.
- Thank you.
1518
01:38:49,607 --> 01:38:51,876
Mmm-hmm. Chapman ought to
call you tonight
1519
01:38:51,943 --> 01:38:53,611
and tell you that he's
dropping all them charges.
1520
01:38:53,678 --> 01:38:55,547
Yeah, I wouldn't
hold my breath.
1521
01:39:05,056 --> 01:39:07,459
Upon the reading
of my decision,
1522
01:39:07,525 --> 01:39:10,361
I expect the rules
of decorum in this courtroom
1523
01:39:10,428 --> 01:39:11,563
to be upheld.
1524
01:39:15,734 --> 01:39:18,470
Ralph Myers took the stand
before this court,
1525
01:39:18,536 --> 01:39:20,371
swore to tell the truth,
1526
01:39:20,438 --> 01:39:23,108
and proceeded to recant most,
if not all,
1527
01:39:23,174 --> 01:39:27,412
of the relevant portions
of his testimony at trial.
1528
01:39:27,479 --> 01:39:30,482
Clearly, he has either
perjured himself at trial,
1529
01:39:30,548 --> 01:39:32,550
or in front of this court.
1530
01:39:33,885 --> 01:39:35,420
After careful review,
1531
01:39:35,487 --> 01:39:36,821
it is this court's opinion
1532
01:39:36,888 --> 01:39:40,058
that conclusive evidence
has not been provided
1533
01:39:40,125 --> 01:39:43,895
that Ralph Myers perjured
himself at the original trial,
1534
01:39:43,962 --> 01:39:47,766
and that pressure put on him
since his trial testimony
1535
01:39:47,832 --> 01:39:51,703
could tend to discredit
his recantation.
1536
01:39:51,770 --> 01:39:55,340
Therefore, it is ordered,
adjudged and decreed
1537
01:39:55,406 --> 01:39:57,709
that the trial testimony
of Ralph Myers
1538
01:39:57,776 --> 01:40:01,213
is not found to have been
perjured testimony
1539
01:40:01,279 --> 01:40:02,614
and no new trial
shall be granted...
1540
01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:05,150
- It's not over.
- ...at this time.
1541
01:40:05,217 --> 01:40:06,684
Walter McMillian
shall be returned
1542
01:40:06,751 --> 01:40:08,520
to Holman
Correctional Facility
1543
01:40:08,586 --> 01:40:11,523
where he is to face death
by electrocution.
1544
01:40:26,604 --> 01:40:28,940
You can't do this
to us again, Judge.
1545
01:40:29,007 --> 01:40:30,308
Sit down, young man.
1546
01:40:30,375 --> 01:40:31,409
- John...
- This is my dad, sir.
1547
01:40:31,476 --> 01:40:33,245
John. I want you
to sit down now.
1548
01:40:33,311 --> 01:40:34,746
He ain't do nothing wrong.
1549
01:40:34,813 --> 01:40:36,614
Listen to your father.
Not here.
1550
01:40:36,681 --> 01:40:37,849
He ain't do nothing wrong.
1551
01:40:37,916 --> 01:40:39,484
Sit down right now
1552
01:40:39,551 --> 01:40:41,119
or you'll be arrested
for contempt of court.
1553
01:40:41,187 --> 01:40:42,587
Judge, just give me
one second. Please, Judge.
1554
01:40:42,654 --> 01:40:44,689
- Hold on one second.
- Sit down, John.
1555
01:40:44,756 --> 01:40:46,624
I won't
say it again. Sit down!
1556
01:40:46,691 --> 01:40:49,027
Not if you gonna kill my dad
for no reason.
1557
01:40:49,093 --> 01:40:52,198
Not if you gonna kill my dad
for no reason!
1558
01:40:52,264 --> 01:40:53,464
He ain't do nothing wrong!
1559
01:40:53,531 --> 01:40:54,566
Not in here.
Not like this.
1560
01:40:54,632 --> 01:40:57,269
You killing my family, sir.
1561
01:40:57,335 --> 01:41:00,038
You killing my family, sir.
You!
1562
01:41:05,510 --> 01:41:07,378
John!
1563
01:41:07,445 --> 01:41:08,947
Judge! Judge!
He's not resisting.
1564
01:41:09,013 --> 01:41:10,682
- John!
- He ain't do nothing.
1565
01:41:10,748 --> 01:41:12,050
Stop resisting.
1566
01:41:31,970 --> 01:41:34,505
You hear me?
Don't you let them get you.
1567
01:41:38,210 --> 01:41:40,246
It's gonna be all right.
1568
01:41:40,312 --> 01:41:41,846
Come on.
Let's get you home.
1569
01:42:01,966 --> 01:42:04,602
Come on, man,
don't make this hard.
1570
01:42:10,842 --> 01:42:12,043
Come on.
1571
01:42:12,110 --> 01:42:14,946
No. Don't do this, McMillian.
Come on. Go in.
1572
01:42:16,315 --> 01:42:18,583
Johnny D., no! No!
1573
01:42:21,719 --> 01:42:24,122
Johnny D., no!
1574
01:42:24,189 --> 01:42:26,658
Johnny...
1575
01:42:29,894 --> 01:42:32,231
Relax. Relax. Relax.
1576
01:42:33,598 --> 01:42:34,933
Give me your arm.
Give me...
1577
01:42:34,999 --> 01:42:36,668
Get him cuffed!
Get him cuffed.
1578
01:42:37,435 --> 01:42:38,436
Relax.
1579
01:42:47,612 --> 01:42:48,780
Good job.
1580
01:44:53,905 --> 01:44:55,307
Nobody wants to remember
1581
01:44:55,374 --> 01:44:58,109
that this is where
thousands of enslaved people
1582
01:44:58,177 --> 01:45:02,247
were shipped in and paraded
up the street to be sold.
1583
01:45:05,284 --> 01:45:06,818
Just ten miles from here,
1584
01:45:06,884 --> 01:45:08,886
black people were pulled
from their homes and lynched.
1585
01:45:10,222 --> 01:45:11,856
Nobody talks about it.
1586
01:45:15,993 --> 01:45:17,795
And now this black boy
from Delaware
1587
01:45:17,862 --> 01:45:19,465
walks into their courtrooms
1588
01:45:19,531 --> 01:45:20,932
and expects them to admit
1589
01:45:20,998 --> 01:45:24,336
they convicted
an innocent black man.
1590
01:45:27,004 --> 01:45:28,507
I promised
that whole community
1591
01:45:28,574 --> 01:45:30,375
I was gonna bring him home.
1592
01:45:34,712 --> 01:45:36,981
Then I just
made things worse.
1593
01:45:45,823 --> 01:45:47,792
I've heard
a lot of lawyers say
1594
01:45:47,859 --> 01:45:50,761
it's not a good idea
to get close to your clients.
1595
01:45:51,762 --> 01:45:53,965
Distance is healthy.
1596
01:45:57,168 --> 01:46:00,638
But working with you showed me
that that's bullshit.
1597
01:46:02,441 --> 01:46:06,345
You choose to get close
to every one of them.
1598
01:46:06,411 --> 01:46:10,815
And you love them
like they are your family.
1599
01:46:10,882 --> 01:46:13,918
And when your family
is hurting, you're hurting.
1600
01:46:19,525 --> 01:46:22,026
There is no way
that I could fully understand
1601
01:46:22,093 --> 01:46:24,196
what it is
that you're going through.
1602
01:46:28,032 --> 01:46:29,734
But I am pretty sure that
1603
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,703
you mean a lot more to this
community than you think.
1604
01:47:38,537 --> 01:47:40,472
Walter, I'm so sorry.
1605
01:47:47,346 --> 01:47:50,482
Day I got arrested,
I thought I was gonna be okay.
1606
01:47:52,417 --> 01:47:54,386
'Cause I got the truth.
1607
01:47:58,457 --> 01:48:00,626
Soon as they talk to
everybody that was with me,
1608
01:48:00,692 --> 01:48:02,860
they gonna have
to let me go.
1609
01:48:07,898 --> 01:48:11,002
Then the police
keep calling you a killer.
1610
01:48:13,238 --> 01:48:17,509
Some white dude say
he saw you do it.
1611
01:48:20,945 --> 01:48:23,415
News people saying
you did it.
1612
01:48:25,016 --> 01:48:28,553
Judge and jury
saying you did it.
1613
01:48:31,889 --> 01:48:33,824
Now you on the row...
1614
01:48:37,663 --> 01:48:40,164
two, three, four years.
1615
01:48:40,232 --> 01:48:41,700
Your friends and your kids
1616
01:48:41,767 --> 01:48:44,001
ain't calling you
like they used to.
1617
01:48:46,204 --> 01:48:48,674
After a while,
you start wondering
1618
01:48:48,740 --> 01:48:50,575
what they think about you.
1619
01:48:52,043 --> 01:48:55,247
You start wondering
what you think about you.
1620
01:49:00,985 --> 01:49:03,588
The truth
ain't so clear no more.
1621
01:49:08,627 --> 01:49:11,128
But these last few days,
1622
01:49:11,196 --> 01:49:14,333
I can't stop thinking
about Myers up there.
1623
01:49:14,399 --> 01:49:17,235
Telling everybody
how it went down.
1624
01:49:21,239 --> 01:49:23,107
That's the first time
I feel like myself
1625
01:49:23,174 --> 01:49:25,177
since I've been locked up.
1626
01:49:27,579 --> 01:49:30,315
The first time
I remember who I is.
1627
01:49:39,291 --> 01:49:42,093
These fools gonna do
what they gonna do.
1628
01:49:45,263 --> 01:49:48,200
But if they take me
to that chair tonight...
1629
01:49:51,269 --> 01:49:53,438
I'm going out smiling.
1630
01:49:56,241 --> 01:49:58,610
'Cause I got my truth back.
1631
01:50:03,147 --> 01:50:05,149
You gave that to me.
1632
01:50:07,952 --> 01:50:10,087
To me and my family.
1633
01:50:12,591 --> 01:50:15,394
And ain't nobody
gonna take that from us.
1634
01:50:25,035 --> 01:50:27,071
You ain't quitting, is you?
1635
01:50:31,243 --> 01:50:32,511
No, sir.
1636
01:50:39,384 --> 01:50:42,487
Then there ain't no reason
for you to say you're sorry.
1637
01:50:49,594 --> 01:50:51,530
I know
how disappointing
1638
01:50:51,596 --> 01:50:53,265
the last hearing was,
1639
01:50:53,331 --> 01:50:57,001
but that's not where
this is gonna end.
1640
01:50:57,067 --> 01:50:58,670
We're preparing a motion
to submit our evidence
1641
01:50:58,737 --> 01:51:01,506
to the State Supreme Court
in Montgomery.
1642
01:51:01,573 --> 01:51:03,608
They have the power
to reverse the last decision
1643
01:51:03,675 --> 01:51:06,611
and force the circuit court
to give us a new trial.
1644
01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:09,314
You think they'll do that?
1645
01:51:09,381 --> 01:51:11,483
Nothing's guaranteed.
1646
01:51:11,550 --> 01:51:13,351
But I can't see
how an outside court
1647
01:51:13,418 --> 01:51:15,687
can ignore the evidence
that we have.
1648
01:51:17,121 --> 01:51:18,623
And then what?
1649
01:51:19,691 --> 01:51:20,991
Even if he do get out,
1650
01:51:21,058 --> 01:51:23,961
everybody but us
still gonna think he guilty.
1651
01:51:24,028 --> 01:51:25,029
If they can't kill him
in there,
1652
01:51:25,095 --> 01:51:27,031
they can still do it out here.
1653
01:51:28,032 --> 01:51:30,235
We've been worried
about that, too.
1654
01:51:30,302 --> 01:51:33,205
And we're working on something
to help get the truth out.
1655
01:51:39,845 --> 01:51:41,045
We're rolling.
1656
01:51:41,111 --> 01:51:42,614
Whenever you're ready,
Mr. Bradley.
1657
01:51:42,681 --> 01:51:45,317
Okay, Bryan,
you ready?
1658
01:51:45,784 --> 01:51:47,352
I am.
1659
01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:53,191
His name is Walter McMillian,
1660
01:51:53,258 --> 01:51:55,059
known to his friends
as Johnny D.,
1661
01:51:55,125 --> 01:51:57,929
and he's been on death row
in Alabama's Holman prison
1662
01:51:57,995 --> 01:52:00,164
for almost six years.
1663
01:52:00,232 --> 01:52:02,734
A jury was convinced
they got the right man.
1664
01:52:02,801 --> 01:52:06,404
But you may not be
after you watch this story.
1665
01:52:06,471 --> 01:52:07,772
The clerk who was murdered...
1666
01:52:07,839 --> 01:52:10,040
Hey, hey, turn that up!
I can't hear it.
1667
01:52:10,107 --> 01:52:14,044
Johnny D. says they
want to execute the wrong man.
1668
01:52:14,111 --> 01:52:16,013
You didn't kill
Ronda Morrison?
1669
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:17,916
No, sir. I never seen Ronda
Morrison a day in my life.
1670
01:52:17,983 --> 01:52:19,951
God knows I ain't.
1671
01:52:20,017 --> 01:52:22,187
Did you ever go into
Monroeville on the day of the murder?
1672
01:52:22,254 --> 01:52:23,788
No, sir.
1673
01:52:23,855 --> 01:52:25,257
You never went in...
1674
01:52:25,323 --> 01:52:26,791
Never went
to Monroeville, period.
1675
01:52:26,858 --> 01:52:28,827
I told them
I had seen a young girl
1676
01:52:28,894 --> 01:52:31,161
laying on the floor
with her mouth open.
1677
01:52:31,229 --> 01:52:33,198
Johnny D. standing over her.
1678
01:52:33,265 --> 01:52:34,833
Was it true?
1679
01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:38,537
No, sir. Not at all.
Nowhere near true.
1680
01:52:38,603 --> 01:52:41,239
If an execution date
is set for McMillian,
1681
01:52:41,306 --> 01:52:42,908
and that day comes,
1682
01:52:42,974 --> 01:52:46,076
and it's time for him to go
to the electric chair,
1683
01:52:46,143 --> 01:52:47,579
will you be comfortable?
1684
01:52:47,646 --> 01:52:49,548
Yes.
1685
01:52:49,614 --> 01:52:51,616
I'd be comfortable with it.
1686
01:52:51,683 --> 01:52:54,452
Do you think
it's fair, just? He had his...
1687
01:52:54,519 --> 01:52:56,187
He had his day in court.
1688
01:52:56,254 --> 01:52:58,390
He, uh, was tried by a jury.
1689
01:52:58,456 --> 01:53:01,125
They heard his testimony
and they believed it.
1690
01:53:01,192 --> 01:53:02,794
Chapman says he's going
1691
01:53:02,861 --> 01:53:04,596
to indict Myers for perjury.
1692
01:53:04,663 --> 01:53:06,932
Not for what he said
at the trial,
1693
01:53:06,998 --> 01:53:09,000
but for what he's saying now.
1694
01:53:09,066 --> 01:53:10,869
Next, we'll be
presenting our evidence
1695
01:53:10,936 --> 01:53:12,537
to the Alabama Supreme Court,
1696
01:53:12,604 --> 01:53:15,373
hoping they'll see
what we think is very clear...
1697
01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:17,509
that Walter McMillian
is innocent.
1698
01:53:17,576 --> 01:53:20,011
McMillian's fate
is now in the hands
1699
01:53:20,077 --> 01:53:21,580
of the Alabama Supreme Court,
1700
01:53:21,646 --> 01:53:24,114
which is expected
to decide soon
1701
01:53:24,182 --> 01:53:26,384
if he's entitled
to a new trial.
1702
01:53:31,890 --> 01:53:33,792
EJI, this is Brenda.
1703
01:53:37,329 --> 01:53:39,497
Okay. I'll let him know.
Thank you.
1704
01:53:42,634 --> 01:53:44,869
The supreme court ruling
in the McMillian case
1705
01:53:44,936 --> 01:53:46,471
is ready to be picked up.
1706
01:53:51,743 --> 01:53:53,110
I'll be back.
1707
01:54:14,332 --> 01:54:15,600
A wave of shock
1708
01:54:15,667 --> 01:54:17,035
rolled through
Monroe County today,
1709
01:54:17,102 --> 01:54:18,703
when the Alabama
Supreme Court overturned
1710
01:54:18,770 --> 01:54:20,372
the circuit court's
previous decision,
1711
01:54:20,438 --> 01:54:22,540
and granted a new trial
to convicted killer
1712
01:54:22,607 --> 01:54:24,843
Walter "Johnny D." McMillian.
1713
01:54:24,909 --> 01:54:27,045
This was the first time
a court outside the county
1714
01:54:27,112 --> 01:54:28,647
was shown
the overwhelming evidence
1715
01:54:28,713 --> 01:54:30,515
proving Mr. McMillian's
innocence.
1716
01:54:30,582 --> 01:54:32,417
Though the court
granted him a new trial,
1717
01:54:32,484 --> 01:54:34,319
we believe he deserves
to be released immediately.
1718
01:54:34,386 --> 01:54:36,955
And that's exactly what we'll
be arguing at the next hearing.
1719
01:54:37,022 --> 01:54:38,590
Mr. Chapman, how do you feel
about today's decision?
1720
01:54:38,657 --> 01:54:41,292
I have no comment
at this time. Thank you.
1721
01:54:48,633 --> 01:54:50,969
I'm looking
for Attorney Bryan Stevenson.
1722
01:54:52,604 --> 01:54:54,606
- Mr. Stevenson?
- How can I help you?
1723
01:54:54,673 --> 01:54:57,509
Yes, sir, I've been ordered
to serve you this pleading.
1724
01:54:58,309 --> 01:54:59,744
Thank you.
1725
01:55:15,026 --> 01:55:17,529
Tommy Chapman is asking the
court to stay the proceedings,
1726
01:55:17,595 --> 01:55:20,699
so he can open up
a new investigation.
1727
01:55:20,765 --> 01:55:23,702
He's trying to buy time
to rebuild his case.
1728
01:55:23,768 --> 01:55:26,738
That son of a bitch.
1729
01:55:33,344 --> 01:55:34,779
- Bryan?
- You're asking the court
1730
01:55:34,846 --> 01:55:37,582
to keep a man on death row
you know is innocent.
1731
01:55:39,284 --> 01:55:40,552
Excuse me, Counselor?
1732
01:55:40,618 --> 01:55:42,188
I don't know
what you mean.
1733
01:55:42,253 --> 01:55:44,255
The supreme court supports
all the evidence we presented.
1734
01:55:44,322 --> 01:55:46,257
Every one of
your witnesses recanted.
1735
01:55:46,324 --> 01:55:47,859
You got nothing left.
1736
01:55:47,926 --> 01:55:49,561
Well, hang on,
my investigation's still in process.
1737
01:55:49,627 --> 01:55:51,763
And we both know you're not
gonna find anything.
1738
01:55:54,733 --> 01:55:57,302
You have any idea the bullshit
1739
01:55:57,368 --> 01:55:58,603
that I've had to put up with
1740
01:55:58,670 --> 01:56:01,139
since your 60 Minutes
story aired?
1741
01:56:01,207 --> 01:56:02,540
I got the governor on my ass,
1742
01:56:02,607 --> 01:56:05,477
got the NAACP
calling me a racist.
1743
01:56:05,543 --> 01:56:07,779
I got Ronda's family
checking in every five minutes.
1744
01:56:07,846 --> 01:56:09,514
You can't keep
an innocent man in prison
1745
01:56:09,581 --> 01:56:10,982
while you try to salvage
your reputation.
1746
01:56:11,049 --> 01:56:13,818
This ain't got nothing to do
with my reputation.
1747
01:56:14,853 --> 01:56:16,654
This is about the people
of this county
1748
01:56:16,721 --> 01:56:19,858
who have hired me
to keep 'em safe.
1749
01:56:19,924 --> 01:56:22,694
And what people are you
talking about right now?
1750
01:56:22,761 --> 01:56:24,462
The ones
from this neighborhood?
1751
01:56:24,529 --> 01:56:26,030
Or the ones
from the black community
1752
01:56:26,097 --> 01:56:27,532
you took Johnny D. from?
1753
01:56:27,599 --> 01:56:30,034
You think they feel safe?
1754
01:56:32,871 --> 01:56:35,473
Your job isn't to defend
a conviction, Tommy.
1755
01:56:35,540 --> 01:56:37,909
It's to achieve justice.
1756
01:56:37,976 --> 01:56:39,844
And as long
as you keep fighting this,
1757
01:56:39,911 --> 01:56:40,912
someone from your county
1758
01:56:40,979 --> 01:56:44,549
has literally gotten away
with murder.
1759
01:56:44,616 --> 01:56:46,484
You wanna come all the way
to my house at dinner time
1760
01:56:46,551 --> 01:56:48,254
just to tell me
how to do my job?
1761
01:56:48,319 --> 01:56:49,487
No.
1762
01:56:49,554 --> 01:56:50,755
No, I'm here
because I think you know
1763
01:56:50,822 --> 01:56:53,491
the difference
between right and wrong.
1764
01:56:53,558 --> 01:56:56,327
And you know Johnny D.
didn't kill that girl.
1765
01:56:57,796 --> 01:57:00,431
I'm filing a motion
to dismiss all charges.
1766
01:57:00,498 --> 01:57:02,834
And I think that
you should join it.
1767
01:57:14,012 --> 01:57:16,681
Next time you wanna
stop by my house,
1768
01:57:18,616 --> 01:57:20,552
appreciate you
calling me first.
1769
01:57:20,618 --> 01:57:23,054
Now, you get the hell
off my property, Bryan.
1770
01:57:43,408 --> 01:57:45,109
There's Bryan.
1771
01:57:45,177 --> 01:57:47,078
- What's going on?
- They won't let us in.
1772
01:57:47,145 --> 01:57:51,049
That boy is making us wait
out here for over an hour.
1773
01:57:51,115 --> 01:57:52,383
Excuse me.
1774
01:57:52,450 --> 01:57:53,685
What are you doing?
1775
01:57:53,751 --> 01:57:55,520
Just following orders.
1776
01:57:55,587 --> 01:57:56,888
This is a public hearing.
1777
01:57:56,955 --> 01:57:58,923
These people need
to be let in now.
1778
01:58:01,459 --> 01:58:02,660
Um...
1779
01:58:05,663 --> 01:58:07,498
Y'all can go in now.
1780
01:58:07,565 --> 01:58:09,133
Now that
there's no seats left.
1781
01:58:09,201 --> 01:58:11,069
It's okay.
1782
01:58:11,135 --> 01:58:12,570
We'll find room.
1783
01:58:12,637 --> 01:58:13,738
- Go on in.
- Y'all come on.
1784
01:58:13,805 --> 01:58:15,341
- Excuse us.
- Yeah.
1785
01:58:15,406 --> 01:58:17,375
Come on, y'all.
1786
01:58:17,442 --> 01:58:19,811
Right this way. Come on.
1787
01:58:19,878 --> 01:58:21,079
Okay.
1788
01:58:24,415 --> 01:58:25,483
Good to see you, sugar.
1789
01:58:25,550 --> 01:58:27,719
Okay. Thank you.
Yes, ma'am.
1790
01:58:29,387 --> 01:58:30,922
All rise.
1791
01:58:33,391 --> 01:58:35,593
The 28th Judicial
Circuit Court of Alabama
1792
01:58:35,660 --> 01:58:36,995
is now is session.
1793
01:58:37,061 --> 01:58:40,131
The Honorable Judge
Pamela Baschab presiding.
1794
01:58:40,199 --> 01:58:41,532
Please be seated.
1795
01:58:44,602 --> 01:58:46,238
We've got a full house,
1796
01:58:46,305 --> 01:58:49,308
so let's try to move through
this in a timely manner.
1797
01:58:49,375 --> 01:58:51,643
We're here
because Mr. Stevenson
1798
01:58:51,709 --> 01:58:54,612
has filed a motion
to dismiss all charges
1799
01:58:54,679 --> 01:58:57,115
against Mr. McMillian
in this case.
1800
01:58:57,182 --> 01:58:58,983
Now, Mr. Stevenson,
since it's your motion,
1801
01:58:59,050 --> 01:59:00,852
I'd like for you
to speak to it first
1802
01:59:00,919 --> 01:59:02,954
and then we'll hear
from the State.
1803
01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:16,901
It's easy to see this case
1804
01:59:16,968 --> 01:59:20,406
as one man trying to prove
his innocence.
1805
01:59:20,471 --> 01:59:23,074
But when you take a black man
and you put him on death row
1806
01:59:23,141 --> 01:59:25,677
a year before his trial...
1807
01:59:25,743 --> 01:59:29,914
and exclude black people
from serving on his jury...
1808
01:59:29,981 --> 01:59:31,383
When you base
your conviction
1809
01:59:31,449 --> 01:59:33,952
on a coerced testimony
of a white felon,
1810
01:59:34,018 --> 01:59:36,322
and ignore the testimony
of two dozen
1811
01:59:36,388 --> 01:59:39,757
law-abiding
black witnesses...
1812
01:59:39,824 --> 01:59:41,960
When any evidence proving
his innocence is suppressed
1813
01:59:42,026 --> 01:59:46,130
and anyone who tries to tell
the truth is threatened,
1814
01:59:46,198 --> 01:59:48,132
this case becomes
more than the trial
1815
01:59:48,200 --> 01:59:49,934
of just a single defendant.
1816
01:59:50,535 --> 01:59:52,136
It becomes a test
1817
01:59:52,204 --> 01:59:56,074
of whether we're going to be
governed by fear and by anger,
1818
01:59:56,140 --> 01:59:58,076
or by the rule of law.
1819
02:00:04,316 --> 02:00:06,251
If the people standing
at the back of this courtroom
1820
02:00:06,318 --> 02:00:09,554
are all presumed guilty
when accused...
1821
02:00:11,256 --> 02:00:13,591
If they have to leave here
and live in fear
1822
02:00:13,658 --> 02:00:16,594
of when this very thing
will happen to them...
1823
02:00:18,230 --> 02:00:19,897
If we're just gonna accept
the system
1824
02:00:19,964 --> 02:00:22,867
that treats you better
if you're rich and guilty
1825
02:00:22,934 --> 02:00:24,370
than if you're poor
and innocent,
1826
02:00:24,436 --> 02:00:28,240
then we can't claim
to be just.
1827
02:00:28,307 --> 02:00:31,642
If we say we're committed
to equal justice under law
1828
02:00:31,709 --> 02:00:33,778
to protecting the rights
of every citizen,
1829
02:00:33,845 --> 02:00:37,615
regardless of wealth,
race, or status,
1830
02:00:37,682 --> 02:00:38,950
then we have to
end this nightmare
1831
02:00:39,017 --> 02:00:41,886
for Walter McMillian
and his family.
1832
02:00:41,953 --> 02:00:43,554
The charges against him
have been proven
1833
02:00:43,621 --> 02:00:45,056
to be a false construction
1834
02:00:45,123 --> 02:00:48,960
of desperate people
fueled by bigotry and bias,
1835
02:00:49,027 --> 02:00:51,829
who ignored the truth in
exchange for easy solutions,
1836
02:00:51,896 --> 02:00:54,098
and that's not the law.
1837
02:00:55,533 --> 02:00:57,568
That's not justice.
1838
02:01:00,406 --> 02:01:02,173
That's not right.
1839
02:01:04,776 --> 02:01:05,977
I ask that this case
1840
02:01:06,044 --> 02:01:08,679
be dismissed immediately,
Your Honor.
1841
02:01:11,417 --> 02:01:13,117
Thank you.
1842
02:01:25,397 --> 02:01:27,698
Mr. Chapman,
what is the State's position
1843
02:01:27,765 --> 02:01:29,234
on this motion?
1844
02:01:35,873 --> 02:01:39,110
Your Honor,
may I approach the bench?
1845
02:01:39,178 --> 02:01:40,611
Yes.
1846
02:01:44,816 --> 02:01:46,684
Your Honor, um...
1847
02:01:46,751 --> 02:01:48,753
I'm troubled.
1848
02:01:49,654 --> 02:01:51,722
- You're troubled?
- Troubled.
1849
02:01:56,127 --> 02:01:58,397
'Cause I know that the
people in this community
1850
02:01:58,464 --> 02:02:00,031
want to go
to sleep at night
1851
02:02:00,098 --> 02:02:02,733
knowing that if someone has
committed a terrible crime,
1852
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:05,703
then that someone
is gonna be punished.
1853
02:02:10,275 --> 02:02:12,143
But, um,
1854
02:02:12,211 --> 02:02:13,978
in this case...
1855
02:02:15,913 --> 02:02:17,549
Your Honor, I have, um,
1856
02:02:17,615 --> 02:02:20,319
taken another look
at the evidence...
1857
02:02:20,385 --> 02:02:21,819
and, uh...
1858
02:02:26,191 --> 02:02:27,892
Mr. Chapman, please?
1859
02:02:27,959 --> 02:02:30,862
And the State does not object
to the motion, Your Honor.
1860
02:02:32,531 --> 02:02:33,865
What?
1861
02:02:36,268 --> 02:02:38,337
To be clear,
Mr. Chapman,
1862
02:02:38,403 --> 02:02:42,773
are you joining the motion
to dismiss all charges today?
1863
02:02:44,041 --> 02:02:45,511
Yes, Your Honor, I am.
1864
02:02:47,011 --> 02:02:48,146
Order.
1865
02:02:48,213 --> 02:02:51,216
Please. Order.
1866
02:02:54,386 --> 02:02:55,587
Well...
1867
02:02:55,653 --> 02:02:58,290
y'all have made
my job easy today.
1868
02:02:58,357 --> 02:03:02,026
In the case of
The People v. McMillian,
1869
02:03:02,093 --> 02:03:06,198
the court hereby grants
the defendant's motion.
1870
02:03:06,265 --> 02:03:09,434
All charges against you
are dismissed, Mr. McMillian.
1871
02:03:09,501 --> 02:03:11,936
What does that mean?
1872
02:03:12,003 --> 02:03:13,671
That means you're free.
1873
02:03:13,738 --> 02:03:15,440
- I'm free?
- That means you're free and you get to go home.
1874
02:03:30,589 --> 02:03:31,822
Hey.
1875
02:03:35,561 --> 02:03:36,894
Your family's coming.
1876
02:03:59,884 --> 02:04:02,321
I have my family back.
1877
02:04:50,167 --> 02:04:52,471
We're all with you, brother.
1878
02:05:13,592 --> 02:05:15,394
Yo, Johnny D.!
1879
02:05:44,323 --> 02:05:45,657
I came out
of law school
1880
02:05:45,724 --> 02:05:47,192
with grand ideas in my mind
1881
02:05:47,259 --> 02:05:49,827
about how to change the world.
1882
02:05:52,497 --> 02:05:54,065
But Mr. McMillian
made me realize
1883
02:05:54,131 --> 02:05:55,334
we can't change the world
1884
02:05:55,400 --> 02:05:58,503
with only ideas
in our minds.
1885
02:05:58,570 --> 02:06:01,172
We need conviction
in our hearts.
1886
02:06:02,441 --> 02:06:05,142
This man taught me
how to stay hopeful.
1887
02:06:05,210 --> 02:06:07,512
Because I now know
that hopelessness
1888
02:06:07,579 --> 02:06:09,748
is the enemy of justice.
1889
02:06:11,616 --> 02:06:13,318
Hope allows us
to push forward,
1890
02:06:13,385 --> 02:06:14,985
even when the truth
is distorted
1891
02:06:15,052 --> 02:06:16,588
by the people in power.
1892
02:06:19,324 --> 02:06:21,526
It allows us to stand up
1893
02:06:21,593 --> 02:06:23,428
when they tell us
to sit down.
1894
02:06:23,495 --> 02:06:26,997
And to speak
when they say, "Be quiet."
1895
02:06:31,336 --> 02:06:33,538
Through this work,
I've learned that each of us
1896
02:06:33,605 --> 02:06:36,006
is more than the worst
thing that we've ever done.
1897
02:06:37,676 --> 02:06:41,313
That the opposite of poverty
isn't wealth.
1898
02:06:41,380 --> 02:06:44,649
The opposite of poverty
is justice.
1899
02:06:46,184 --> 02:06:48,487
That the character
of our nation isn't reflected
1900
02:06:48,553 --> 02:06:52,190
in how we treat the rich
and the privileged,
1901
02:06:52,257 --> 02:06:57,362
but how we treat the poor,
the disfavored and condemned.
1902
02:07:01,333 --> 02:07:04,969
Our system has taken more
away from this innocent man
1903
02:07:05,035 --> 02:07:07,439
than it has the power
to give back.
1904
02:07:10,141 --> 02:07:13,911
But I believe if each of us
can follow his lead,
1905
02:07:13,978 --> 02:07:16,981
we can change this world
for the better.
1906
02:07:20,385 --> 02:07:23,355
If we can look
at ourselves closely,
1907
02:07:23,422 --> 02:07:25,156
and honestly,
1908
02:07:25,223 --> 02:07:29,093
I believe we will see
that we all need justice.
1909
02:07:30,127 --> 02:07:32,864
We all need mercy.
1910
02:07:32,930 --> 02:07:34,433
And perhaps,
1911
02:07:34,499 --> 02:07:38,537
we all need some measure
of unmerited grace.
1912
02:07:41,071 --> 02:07:42,973
Thank you.
1913
02:07:45,677 --> 02:07:48,180
I taught you all that?
1914
02:07:50,615 --> 02:07:53,618
Yeah, you taught me
some of that.
1915
02:07:53,685 --> 02:07:55,019
I'm pretty good, ain't I?
1916
02:07:57,823 --> 02:07:59,391
Great job.
1917
02:09:50,067 --> 02:09:51,903
Hi!
1918
02:09:51,970 --> 02:09:55,640
Oh, Lord, thank you, Jesus.
1919
02:09:55,707 --> 02:09:58,710
Thank you, Lord.
1920
02:09:58,777 --> 02:10:02,547
Oh, thank you, Jesus.
1921
02:10:16,028 --> 02:10:21,028
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