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Narrator: Off the coast of California,

top-gun pilots intercept a Tic-Tac-shaped object

flying over the ocean.

David Fravor: All four of us saw a white Tic-Tac object

with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south

and moving very abruptly over the water

like a ping-pong ball.

Kevin Day: All of a sudden that object,

whatever the hell it was, drops out of the sky,

straight down to about 50 feet above the water and stops.

Navy personnel [over radio]: Wow, look at that!

Look at it fly [laughs]!

David: The technology that we faced was far superior

than anything that we had.

You're talking something that can go into space,

drop down in a matter of seconds,

do whatever it wants and leave,

and there's nothing we can do about it.

Kevin: They went out there and they talked to the fisherman

and the fishermen looked at them like they were crazy.

They said, .What's taken you guys so long?

We've been talking about this for 100 years.

They come out, they drop straight from the sky

and they go down into the ocean. /

Christian Bohm: The oceans on Earth

are one of the last frontiers in terms of studying

and understanding our planet's geology.

Neil Lavoie: They were just flabbergasted by what they saw.

I still shake.

Narrator: Why are these objects repeatedly going into the ocean?

What are they searching for and who are they?

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Narrator: Thousands of eyewitnesses see something

they can't explain,

only to face ridicule from skeptics.

Kevin: So this is a long, convoluted story.

No one believed me.

They all heard "UFO" and I got clowned,

and I started to get pissed at this point.

Narrator: For Senior Chief Petty Officer Kevin Day,

what he sees above the Pacific Ocean in 2004

changes his life forever.

Kevin: I was a senior chief at the time,

senior chief operations specialist,

a radar guy.

I retired from the Navy.

Years went by.

I had free time,

so I started volunteering at the golf course

and I was actually reopening the kitchen.

And the golf tournament was on,

I was walking out with a plate of food

and all of a sudden on the TV there was that MPEG video

that I hadn't seen since 2004 called .Go Fast. /

Navy personnel [over radio]: What the heck is that?

[inaudible]--moving target?

Kevin: I did "go fast," home.

I still shake.

Ashley Kircher: Kevin Day was on the USS Princeton,

and he was a radar operator,

and he was coordinating these training exercises

for these pilots that were stationed

on the Nimitz.

Narrator: The USS Nimitz is one of the largest warcrafts

ever built,

with the ability to hold 75 fighter jets,

and maintain a crew of 5,000 highly trained sailors

and pilots.

Kevin: We had all kinds of training going on,

but part of the training was air defense exercise.

We're going to embark all the aircraft onto the Nimitz.

The Marine Corps station at Miramar was going to fly at us,

and we were going to do a mock air battle

right there in Whiskey 291 off the coast of SoCal.

And about four days prior to the air wing

even getting on the ship,

we started to see these contacts on spy radar.

David: The controller told us that these objects

had been observed for over two weeks,

coming down from over 80,000 feet,

rapidly descending to 20,000 feet,

hanging out for hours, and then going straight back up.

For those who don't realize, above 80,000 feet is space.

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80,000 feet is pretty high.

We tend not to keep aircraft up there.

Other aircraft like the SR-71 can fly at about that height.

It's another aircraft that's actually used for surveillance

or other means.

But typical aircraft do not remain there.

Perhaps there was something wrong

with the calibration of the instruments.

So the entire system was brought down, rebooted,

and the objects still were being observed.

Kevin: Came back up, and they were still there,

bright and shiny as ever.

There was five to ten at a time.

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Narrator: The objects don't make any hostile moves

toward the military for over four days.

Kevin: And we were getting ready to do the air defense exercise.

That's when I got concerned,

because all of a sudden I have these unknown objects

in the sky,

and I was going to fill the same piece of sky

with my own aircraft.

Probably not a good idea, right?

So Captain Smith comes down to combat,

and I said, .Hey, sir, you know,

your senior chief here is very concerned.

I know we kind of spend a lot of time getting ready for this,

but I've got contacts in the sky here.

I have no idea what the hell they are.

I've been trying to find out.

I very strongly recommend we visually intercept one

and see what it is. /

And he says, "Roger that, Senior Chief.

Intercept VID."

Narrator: Fast Eagle 1 is scrambled off the Nimitz,

piloted by Commander David Fravor.

Alex Dietrich flies alongside him in a second plane.

Chris: And sure enough, something was being detected.

Kevin: As soon as he gets in the same vertical piece of sky,

about 20,000 feet, all of a sudden, that object,

whatever the hell it was, drops out of the sky

straight down to about 50 feet above the water and stops.

And so he went chasing down left,

his wingman up high,

and he gets down co-located with this thing,

and this thing recognizes him.

Narrator: Fast Eagle 1 maneuvers around the object,

and the object responds.

Chris: The pilots seem to be orbiting in a circle

around this particular area,

and the object seemed to orbit as well.

Kevin: And all of a sudden, on the radio,

pooping his pants.

.Oh my God! Oh my God!

I'm engaged, I'm engaged! /

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Kevin: And this is a top-gun pilot,

years of experience,

thousands of hours in his logbook.

It was pretty shocking.

And right then, right in front of him,

this object, whatever it was, disappeared.

David: As we pulled nose onto the object

within about a half mile of it,

it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared.

Our wingman, roughly 8,000 feet above us,

lost contact also.

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Narrator: Fravor would later tell Day

what the craft looks like up close.

Kevin: We had a post-underway meeting

and Commander Fravor was there

and I pulled him out over to the side

and I said, .Hey, sir, what did that thing look like? /

David: All four of us,

because we were an F-18F--so we had pilots

and [inaudible] in the back seat,

looked down and saw a small, white Tic-Tac object

with a longitudinal axis pointing north-south

and moving very abruptly over the water

like a ping-pong ball.

Kevin: It was pure white.

No doors, no windows.

There were no rotors, no rotor wash,

or any sign of visible control surfaces like wings.

Kevin: That's where that word .Tic-Tac / came from.

Narrator: We used artificial intelligence to enhance

the images to see what the footage reveals.

With the video the pilots got,

we get a closer look at what they were seeing.

By inverting the colours on the black and white image

that the pilot's aircraft recorded,

we can see that distinct shape is having an effect

around the craft itself,

as though it has a field surrounding it.

Dr. Michael P. Masters: But what's interesting

is that they noticed a disturbance in the water too.

This craft was almost interacting

with something below, and it wasn't like a helicopter

and how that disturbs water.

But they noticed the disturbance in the water

and the craft separately.

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David: We saw some white water off our right side.

It's important to note that the weather on this day

was as close to perfect as you could ask for

off the coast of San Diego.

Clear skies, light winds, calm seas,

no white caps from waves.

So the whitewater stood out in a large blue ocean.

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Kevin: And then right then I'm standing over by the captain.

We're kind of like,

.What in the frick is going on, / right?

And all of a sudden I hear on the overhead speaker,

my air controller comes on and he says, .Captain,

you're not going to believe this,

but that thing is now at your CAP station. /

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Kevin: It's a secret location,

because remember we're doing an exercise

and the guys from Miramar

don't know where our combat air patrol stations are.

Secret, right?

Narrator: How did it know Commander Fravor's CAP station

when Fravor's plane hadn't been there yet?

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Dr. Masters: You could go deeper in investigating

or at least speculating about how it knew the CAP point,

the rally point in both latitude, longitude,

and altitude of where Fravor was supposed to go

after this training exercise.

So there's all kinds of strange things happening

with regard to what this craft can do

and what it knows,

or what whoever's controlling it knows,

because this was a secret location

that it shouldn't have known about at all.

Kevin: The math has been done on these objects;

35 Gs, maybe more,

because I think some of that's guesswork.

But it was my recollection it was instant.

They could go instantly from point A to point B,

like they were able to suspend the force of gravity somehow.

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Neil: If you took an aircraft and you dropped at that speed,

there would be so much heat generated

you would actually start to melt the aircraft.

So that's one problem.

Another one would be the G loading.

I don't know of anything that could actually handle

that much structural stress

to go at that rate of a change so fast.

It goes beyond the physics that I'm aware of,

it goes beyond the materials that I'm aware of,

and it goes beyond the survivability

that I'm aware of.

So at that point,

there was really nothing else I could do

because I was tracking and reporting.

So we were in a pickle, and it was an exercise,

and we couldn't have shot at them if we had wanted to.

We didn't have any armament on board for safety reasons.

But other aircraft were launching on their own now,

and they're starting to pick out their own objects to intercept.

And they did.

And before I knew it,

I had UAP raining out of the sky.

Narrator: All told, a hundred objects appear

and vanish at the same point in the sky.

The massive combat exercise is scrapped.

Kevin: We ended up going back into port

without ever doing the exercise, because it wasn't safe to fly.

I transferred from the ship and went over to what turned out

to be my last duty station.

And I was very perplexed,

and I was actually starting to get upset,

because it's not supposed to happen this way.

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Narrator: What was supposed to happen

was the logging of formal documentation indicated,

why the exercise was cancelled,

and followed by an after-action review

to capture lessons learned from the incident

and the response to better inform future planning.

But that didn't occur.

We had a standard debrief,

where the backseaters went down to our carrier intel centre

and briefed what had happened, and that was it.

No one else talked to us,

and I was in the top 20 in the battle group,

no one came.

The captain was aware, the admiral was aware,

nothing was done.

Kevin: I went up to combat the next day

and this was gonna write an after-action message,

route it up to the captain,

see if he would release it

and try to explain some of this, right?

So I went onto the computer system

and tried to access the data that I would normally have

that I needed to write the message.

It was all gone.

So I call up the computer central guy,

and he says, .Senior, I got something to tell you.

You better sit down. /

I said, .What's going on? /

He said, .Well, a helicopter landed on board last night.

Some guys came off the helicopter,

and they took all of our data,

and they made me erase even the blank tapes. /

Chris: The tapes and the data and all the other information,

the videos and so forth,

were taken away and the information

scrubbed from the various computers.

Narrator: There are many questions left unanswered,

but the biggest one now is, who took the recordings

and what do they want out of it?

Narrator: Off the coast of California,

Tic-Tac-shaped objects travel at unbelievable speeds,

engage a top-gun pilot,

and disappear at a single point in the sky.

Senior Chief Petty Officer Kevin Day

watches it all unfold on his radar.

He convinces his command to cancel

a massive military exercise.

Ashley: But the next morning,

when Day went to write a report about this,

the files were missing that he would have used

to make this report.

And he was told by some of the other people on the ship

that some guys had landed

on the carrier during the night in a helicopter,

and come and taken this information.

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But he said, .I saved one segment for you. /

Narrator: With only one scrap of evidence to confirm

what they have collectively seen,

the witnesses are quickly discredited.

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Kevin: We were getting clowned already.

There was cartoons run in the papers.

Everyone looked at us

and started snickering, laughing.

It sucked.

So I went over to my next duty station,

Commander Naval Air Forces Pacific.

Same thing happened.

I was just trying to describe,

.Hey, we got a safety situation here off the coast. /

I tried to describe it,

and they thought I was either on drugs

or we had mis-IDed it,

or there was some type of massive computer failure,

system wide or something.

It was anything but UFOs, right?

Navy personnel: Wow, what was that, man?

Look at it fly [laughs]!

So I ended up retiring, went to work for a contractor,

Department of Defense.

And meetings came up

and the same thing happened again.

Raised my hand, tried to discuss safety.

Same thing happened again.

Now I was really pissed, because all that training,

it didn't seem to matter.

No one seemed to care.

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Narrator: It's possible that the military

wasn't doing a more formal investigation

because the unidentified craft was one of their own

from a covert experiment.

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Neil: Some cases, the military does do

their own experiments.

Other cases, the private sector does their own experiments

in the form of aerospace manufacturers,

and in other cases it's a collaboration.

The military will actually fund a lot of commercial operations

to actually design and build different things for them to see

if it's possible or plausible.

Narrator: But experts find it highly unlikely

that this is a secret military drone test

using technologies of which we're still unaware

two decades later.

Chris: One would have to think that if you took away

the instrumentation data,

you'd also want to know the pilots' views

and how they reacted

and what they thought was going on.

And that was never done.

So it's very curious that if this was a military operation,

why you wouldn't complete the military screening,

and getting more information from the pilots themselves.

Neil: The technology that the Navy was using

is some of the latest and greatest stuff

that's out there.

And they didn't understand what it was.

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So there's a lot to unpack there.

Murray Toews: Just based on the video itself

and what was reported,

that they seemed to anticipate where the aircraft

was going to be at one point,

and where they were going to be at the next point.

So that describes intelligence, forethought, planning,

all the hallmarks of intelligence and then some,

because it completely outsmarted the American military.

What astonished you the most about the flight capabilities

of these Tic-Tac?

Very briefly.

The performance, absolute performance.

It was--

And you're not aware of any other objects

that anybody in the world

has in this world that has those capabilities?

No, I think it's far beyond

actually our material science that we currently possess.

Narrator: But how?

Is the craft itself inside a field of some sort

that allows it to defy conventional notions

of aeronautics?

Whatever the reason, Kevin Day's military career

quickly comes to an end.

Kevin: It didn't seem to matter, you know?

No one seemed to care.

So I didn't know what the hell I was going to do.

And then I stopped, because I was so pissed.

I said, .Stop, calm down.

If you could go back in time to right now,

what would you do differently?

Think about this. /

Instantly, the answer came, .I like to write anyway.

I'm going to write a book and I'm going to publish it

in the Library of Congress.

Write a fictional story and use the name of the ship,

use the word "Tic-Tac," but change the characters.

If someone reads it, there's no confusion.

It is the story. /

And then I published it in the Library of Congress in 2008,

just in case, if the story ever came to light,

my book would serve as evidence

that it actually really happened.

Narrator: The book would languish in anonymity for years.

Kevin Day would retreat to the woods of Oregon until new videos

are leaked to the media from a 2015 UAP encounter.

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Kevin: I started volunteering at the golf course,

my other love in life, and I was walking out,

carrying a plate of food out, and I look at the TV.

The tournament was supposed to be on,

and all of a sudden CNN was on.

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Navy personnel [over radio]: What the heck is that?

[inaudible radio chatter]

Ah, okay.

Imagine my shock.

You know why?

Because I knew where evidence was.

That book in the Library of Congress

proved it actually happened.

And it turned out that book actually is one of the reasons

why the government actually came out

and had to admit that UAP is real.

Because of that little book.

Ashley: His report in that book was, I think,

helpful in moving these congressional hearings along

that are now happening in the US.

Congressman: Good morning and welcome

to the most exciting subcommittee

in Congress this week,

for discussion of unidentified anomalous phenomenon.

Narrator: In 2023,

the US Congress begins a series of hearings on UAPs,

releasing more videos and hearing from more people,

including Commander Fravor.

David: The Tic-Tac object we engaged in 2004

was far superior to anything that we had on time, have today,

or looking to develop in the next ten years.

The technology that we faced was far superior

than anything that we had.

We have nothing that can stop in midair

and go the other direction,

nor do we have anything that can,

like in our situation, come down from space,

hang out for three hours and go back up.

You're talking something that can go into space,

go someplace, drop down in a matter of seconds,

do whatever it wants and leave,

and there's nothing we can do about it.

Narrator: In 2024, the US Department of Defense

says a total of 754 UAPs are reported

in a single 12 month period.

Congressional hearings continue in 2025.

Footage is released of a Hellfire missile appearing

to bounce off a Tic-Tac shaped object over the coast of Yemen

that's travelling at incredible speeds.

How?

If we're seeing it happen, it's possible,

we just don't yet know how to do it.

And it's important to make that distinction.

It's very possible that we will know how to do this

in the future.

And it's also possible that what we're seeing

isn't the same thing as what's being experienced

inside that craft.

And basically what's happening is these craft

aren't moving at those speeds

relative to what they see inside the craft.

It's a difference in the temporal reference frame

of us and them.

What we see as an instantaneous acceleration and deceleration,

a right turn happening at thousands of miles per hour,

is actually, to them,

inside their temporal reference frame,

probably a 1G maneuver.

But because they're manipulating the flow of time

in and around that craft,

to us it looks like a tremendously fast movement,

but it's just a difference in the way we perceive time.

Every now and then,

you'll see a little zip across a camera.

You slow that down

because the camera is capable of doing that,

unlike our eyes and you can see the shape of that craft.

However, if they're manipulating the space-time metric

in and around these craft,

it allows them to essentially slow down time outside of it.

But what that means for us outside that craft

is we see this thing zipping around.

And that issue of G-force is really a hang up

for a lot of people,

but if you understand that they're manipulating

or creating this sort of bubble around their craft

and manipulating space-time in it,

then all of those questions go away.

It's very easy to see what they're doing

and how they're doing it,

and how it benefits them within that machine.

Narrator: The Tic-Tac objects were seen moving

at speeds nearing Mach 50,

equivalent to approximately 38,000 miles per hour.

Has a military experiment harnessed the power

of hyperspeed?

The closer you get to the speed of light,

the more energy it would take to reach it.

So one of the theories that exists

is to create a warp bubble.

So you actually take an object like a craft of some kind,

and you use a lot of energy,

and you actually warp space-time around the craft

so that this craft is actually outside of normal space-time.

And then you move this bubble through space, right?

Compressing space as you're moving forward

and actually expanding space behind it.

So it actually travels at a high rate of speed

that goes beyond the speed of light.

The craft itself isn't technically travelling

at the speed of light.

It's the bubble.

It's a warp.

But I don't know of anything that can produce

the amount of energy that would be needed

to actually do any of these things.

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Narrator: The failure to properly address

and investigate this phenomenon remains of grave concern

to the members of the military brave enough to speak out.

But UAP engagements with military aircraft

has been happening all along.

Ashley: I know they were there during World War II.

They were crafts or orbs that were, like,

following the fighters that were going--you know,

flying their missions

and that they would also track planes and disappear.

Murray: Plain curiosity.

If I was an alien,

I would be really curious about that.

I would want--if I can get away with it

and not get hurt myself,

either remotely or through some kind of technology,

and I realize, .Well,

I'm technologically superior to them,

or at least I can avoid their technology

and not get hurt, so be it. /

Then I'll do it.

So I feel that curiosity is the primary reason.

I just want to know how everything works.

Navy personnel [over radio]: What the heck is that?

[inaudible]--moving target?

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Narrator: Years later, a television program

had taken interest in what happened on the USS Nimitz.

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Next thing I know, they're contacting me.

So they came out to the house and they interviewed me,

like we're doing now.

And I had mentioned to Lou, I said, .Oh, by the way,

every one of those objects disappeared off my radar

right in the same spot in the sky,

which was about 60 miles north of Guadalupe Island

off the coast of Mexico. /

I no sooner got those words out of my mouth,

Lou Elizondo looks at Tom DeLonge and says,

.We're going there. /

They went out there

and they talked to the fisherman,

and the fishermen looked at them like they were crazy.

They said, .What's taking you guys so long?

We've been talking about this for 100 years.

They come out, they drop straight from the sky

and they go down into the ocean. /

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Narrator: Why are these objects repeatedly going into the ocean?

Could the objects be from another ocean covered planet?

Producers have asked our experts to speculate if Kepler-62f

might be the kind of planet

that these objects could have originated from.

Nathalie Ouellette: From what we do know,

it is potentially an ocean world.

It's one of the more promising candidates

in terms of habitability.

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Narrator: Kepler-62f was detected 1,200 light years

from Earth by NASA's Kepler Space Telescope,

which began its mission in 2009 to search for planets

beyond our solar system.

The telescope relied on the TRANSMIT method,

carefully tracking stars for brief recurring drops

in brightness that signal a planet crossing

in front of them.

By examining these slight changes in light,

scientists can piece together details

about a planet's size, orbit, and overall nature.

The object that became known as Kepler-62f was flagged

as a potential exoplanet in 2013.

Subsequent results from ground-based observations

later confirmed that the signal indeed came from a real planet

orbiting the star Kepler-62.

Nathalie: It's a super Earth with a rocky surface,

but it might be completely covered

with a liquid ocean.

It's in the habitable zone,

so it could sustain liquid ocean.

The issue is that it's 1,000 light years away.

So sort of like really on that outer edge

of where we find exoplanets at this point.

This one is really the one that's interesting

in terms of habitability,

but that's what makes it a SETI target.

So, the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence

has been sending signals and listening for signals

back from this world because it is so interesting.

But again,

because it's 1,000 light years away,

that's a long delay in order to send or receive a message.

Narrator: Despite its distance from Earth,

scientists have made Kepler-62f a prime target

in our search for intelligent extraterrestrial life.

Nathalie: It's one of the more promising candidates

in terms of habitability.

That's why it was chosen to be a SETI target.

They have selected a few exoplanet candidates

where they send a signal there and they listen intently

to see if there's a signal that comes back.

But here, that distance ends up

being a bit of an issue.

A thousand light years away,

that means if we do send something,

it'll take a thousand years to get there.

If they answer, it's another thousand years.

But maybe if there is something there,

they start transmitting before.

So potentially that's why they're listening in intently.

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Narrator: The star at the centre of Kepler-62f's system

may allow for the constant evolution of life.

Nathalie: It's a main sequence K-star,

so it doesn't have as much activity as a red dwarf.

It's more quiet, still longer-lived lived than our sun,

so it does have that nice potential

for a long, quiet life,

for life to develop on the exoplanet.

It's 1.5 times the size of the Earth.

Sometimes when we study these exoplanets,

we can only put an upper limit or a lower limit

to these worlds.

So we have an upper limit of 35 times the mass of the Earth.

So imagine something about the size of the Earth,

35 times heavier.

The gravity would be just crushing.

Neil: If something was exposed to 35 times the force of gravity

of the planet Earth

on a regular basis,

it's plausible that they could survive such rapid changes.

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Dr. Masters: So if we think about life evolving

on a planet like Kepler-62f, for instance,

we might expect that they develop bigger,

more robust bodies

that could allow them to withstand those G forces

in those craft in the way

that we see them maneuvering within our frame of reference.

Murray: The other idea is that we're very presumptuous

to assume that they're biological

in the way we are,

and they're delicate and have bones and meat,

because we're effectively just made out of meat.

Maybe they're made out of something else

that's more adaptive to accelerations

because they travel vast distances to get here.

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Narrator: If they aren't creatures evolved

to withstand those G-forces,

then perhaps it's their grasp on technology

that enables them to exist in high gravity conditions.

That would explain the rapid movements of their craft.

Murray: You might explain how it could make such rapid turns,

because if it was a biological entity inside of that ship,

it may be crushed or just, you know,

through inertial forces and things like that.

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Murray: If you were to, say, watch a helicopter take off

and then turn left or right and move like this,

in real time that's pretty easy on the occupants.

But if you were to speed it up, it would look like this,

would do exactly the same thing.

Now imagine time is like being in a nice gentle helicopter ride

for the occupants.

And as it rises and moves,

relative to you everything's great.

But if time were distorted from our perspective,

it would move like this.

Narrator: Despite possible technological explanations,

gravity is a factor that affects everything

on whatever planet one's on.

On Kepler-62f, the gravity would affect

any ocean on its surface, which could explain

the Tic-Tac object's relationship

to our own ocean.

Nathalie: On Earth, here we do have the buoyancy

of the water.

When you're in water,

you're feeling a little bit lighter.

So you would have a little bit of that as well

with these higher gravity worlds,

but the gravity would just be, like, the overarching force,

because it's so much bigger.

So you still would feel a larger part pull

from the gravitational pull of these planets.

Narrator: How could an alien race a thousand light years away

survive long enough to get here?

They would need to have control over space-time.

Chris: A lot of people have this idea

that spacecraft travelling between stars,

they travel throughout space.

But when a ship like the Starship Enterprise

gets into Earth orbit, they send shuttles,

they send smaller objects.

So it's not like these are the crafts themselves

that travel between space.

There would be some sort of mothership,

There would be some sort of larger ship

that they would be sent out from, like drones.

In fact, there have been suggestions

that perhaps the Tic-Tac was some sort of balloon

or drone.

And whether it was in a terrestrial drone

or an alien drone, that remains to be seen.

Narrator: But why here?

And why then in 2004?

Christian: Earth just seems to be the Goldilocks thing,

as far as the conditions and the geodynamic environment

that's so essential, not only in terms of

having created different types of life forms,

but also to constantly recycle itself,

and keep providing the nutrients

and the conditions in a very, very dynamic way.

Narrator: We have only explored a small fraction of our oceans.

The truth is we don't know exactly what's happening there.

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Dr. Masters: Many, many of these objects are seen going

in and out of the water,

oftentimes at a high rate of speed.

We call that a transmedium capability.

It has the ability to move in and out of water,

air and space, the vacuum of space.

So clearly these objects are built

and operate in a way

that's different from conventional aircraft.

That in itself is very interesting.

Neil: The problem with going from air to water

and back to air is thrust.

How do you produce thrust that's going to be capable

of going from air to water and then back to air?

The other thing is the medium changes,

so the stresses on the actual craft change dramatically.

It's a very difficult thing to achieve.

So how does your materials, et cetera, handle that?

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Neil: Can it be done?

Well, they do have some missiles

that actually launch from submarines

that leave the water,

that go into the air and keep going,

but they don't come back down into the water.

David: We immediately turned back to see

where the whitewater was at and it was gone also.

Congressman: Do you believe that you witnessed

an additional object under the water

in relation to your encounter?

David: I will say we did not see an object.

There was something there to cause the whitewater,

and when we turned around, it was gone.

So there was something there that obviously moved.

Congressman: Okay.

It was not the same object, though,

that you were looking at, correct?

David: No, we actually joked

that the Tic-Tac was communicating with something

when we came back,

because the white water disappeared.

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In a sense, the oceans on Earth

are one of the last frontiers in terms of, like,

studying and understanding our planet's geology.

Because obviously it's hard.

It's hard to go to the seafloor,

it's hard to make the observations.

It's relatively hard to extract the materials to bring them

to the surface.

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Narrator: But if this was a species built to withstand

great gravitational forces,

it might well have evolved to also withstand pressures

of the deep oceans.

So is this a geological explanation

that we can speculate on or a biological explanation?

Or is it both?

What are they searching for and who are they?

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Narrator: Spotted by numerous US Navy personnel

off the coast of California in 2004

and again in 2015,

the infamous Tic-Tac craft have raised the prospect

that Earth has been visited repeatedly

by extraterrestrials, and that these beings,

whoever and whatever they are,

have a particular affinity for our oceans.

But if so, why?

What might they be searching for?

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Christian: Geologically,

we're actually at the tectonic margin

of two major plates,

being the Pacific Plate and the North American Plate.

So this is, by default,

one of the most geologically active areas on the planet.

And the mountain ranges behind, like on the continental side,

you know, are rather young.

And we've all heard about, like, earthquakes,

where these extreme releases of energy happen.

You know, a plate margin is an array of crustal sutures,

of fractures, of faults

that are very extensive network of faults.

And if we looked at the cross section of, like,

going from the coast of California into the ocean,

what's remarkable about this part of the world is that,

at some point we dive very steeply along basically ridges

that are very steep, very steep,

because they're along active faults into submarine canyons.

In that area where the sighting happened,

we have a couple of those submarine canyons.

Narrator: At the bottom of these submarine canyons lie

hydrothermal vents which carry some of the very precursors

to life.

A place where life may evolve from raw elements.

Christian: We have extensive seafloor

that potentially could be mined.

It's quite significant.

Everybody today is talking about critical minerals,

strategic minerals, green minerals.

A lot of those are rare-earth elements,

rare metals.

And the resources on the seafloor,

we know they do contain some of these critical minerals as well.

The extent of the seafloor is almost, like,

limitless, you know, compared to, like,

the footprints of mineral resources

on the Earth's surface.

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Narrator: Is Earth such a unique planet that it would attract

an alien race from a thousand light years away

to mine for its rare minerals?

Kevin Day thinks so,

and his reasons go beyond his experience

on the USS Nimitz.

Kevin Day's family mining claim in Oregon leads him to believe

an extraterrestrial intelligence has a mining claim

of its own beneath the ocean.

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Christian: Hydrothermal vent on the seafloor,

there are just mini, small-vent versions.

But the processes are quite comparable to volcanic system.

We kind of picture a volcano as being this mountain.

But in fact, most volcanoes are volcanic complexes.

Even within one volcano,

we can have various little vent systems.

And within the crater we have these little vents

that puff out and so on.

And that's the same on the seafloor.

You know, that's just what one

of these hydrothermal vents signifies.

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Narrator: Perhaps this is what is determining

the visitor's point of view.

If they are here to find hydrothermal vents

and the elements and minerals they excrete

in order to harvest them,

what they see will be focused on identifying

these microscopic elements.

If they came from a planet like Kepler-62f,

their view may be more inclusive than we originally thought.

Even communicating with the sonar that whales use

to communicate with each other

in order to help identify depth,

and then use unknown scopes to determine if the ocean canyons

in question have the elements they are seeking.

Kevin Day believes that these are alien craft taking part

in intergalactic panspermia, the insemination of a planet,

and that they mean no harm.

Kevin: The grey whales go from Catalina Island

down to Guadalupe Island every November.

And when Fast Eagle reported a disturbance in the water,

I thought, .Hey, it's just a whale surfacing.

No big deal. /

Later on, I started thinking,

.Maybe those things were saying hi to the whales, /

because I already knew they were weird.

I was like, your mind really starts to grasp

for some sort of answer.

Dr. Masters: It doesn't seem like they're trying to kill us,

eat us, enslave us, take all of our resources.

They could have done that a long time ago.

Chris: You could say that the aliens wanted to get

a better look at the capabilities

of our military, to try and understand

what dangers and what threats there might be.

San Diego is well known for having a lot of ships there.

We have aircraft carriers.

We have planes with radar.

We have the Princeton itself,

which was a radar and communications ship.

So there are innumerable bits of technology in the area,

and one could say that the aliens wanted to get

a better look at what we were doing.

Murray: We're a fascinating planet to watch.

Our sampling of everything we know

is localized.

We don't have the luxury of going out into space

and sampling other parts of the universe.

We can only see it through light,

through detection, through radiation,

and observation.

But we can't see the fine details.

So that right there is motivation enough.

They're not only seeing a world teeming with life and activity,

but they're watching creatures do things with their hands

and build things.

So they're interested.

Navy personnel [over radio]: What the heck is that?

Dr. Masters: As Kevin Day pointed out,

as David Fravor pointed out with the Nimitz case,

the Tic-Tac case,

if they wanted to hurt us based on their technology

and what they're capable of doing,

it wouldn't even be a fight.

So I think we have to take all of these things into account,

especially when we're trying to ask the question of intent

and origins.

Who are they?

Where are they coming from?

Extraterrestrials from another planet

would have no reason not to come here,

and take our resources, and enslave us,

or feed off of us.

But if they're humans from the future,

it would kind of make sense.

It's sort of the grandfather paradox on a mass scale.

Why would they come back and destroy their own ancestors

when they require us to go on to procreate and become them?

Narrator: What if these beings are somehow

our future ancestors?

This insight by expert Dr. Michael P. Masters

is breathtaking,

leading producers to wonder how these hyper-evolved humans

would see us.

Looking at the USS Nimitz incident from this perspective,

in relation to everything else we've discussed,

leads to an exhilarating conclusion.

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Narrator: What if they weren't observing us?

What if they were confirming,

verifying the deposits are still there,

untouched by our primitive technology,

making sure they've gone back far enough

before we knew these vents existed,

before we could reach them?

They're not harvesting yet.

They're making sure it's safe to come back and harvest later.

The location matters.

Beneath that exact stretch of ocean,

some of the richest hydrothermal deposits on the Pacific Plate.

Mineral concentrations formed over millions of years

in conditions that don't exist on younger worlds.

If you are from a future time

and needed these specific resources,

Earth's ocean floor

The Nimitz pilots chased them, tried to intercept,

but you can't catch someone who's already been here,

who knows exactly where to look,

who can scan through 4,000 metres of ocean

without ever getting wet,

who's not invading but coming home

to collect what they need,

and possibly what we don't yet know we have.

These humans would know the future of our planet

and the importance of preserving it.

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Dr. Masters: This is one thing that John Mack,

a Harvard psychologist who was a forefather

of really understanding the UFO

and especially the abduction phenomenon.

One thing he noticed over and over is

it's take care of the earth, take care of the earth.

They don't seemingly care about us.

Genocides happen,

mass extinctions are happening all over the planet.

Those are the things that seem to bother them the most.

Again, the question is why would they care?

Unless they're stakeholders in this same planet

at some point in the future.

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Narrator: Now that secrets are being declassified

in front of the US Congress and the world,

we get one step closer to learning the truth.

Ashley: This is something that is the biggest story

in humanity.

Like, why are we being kept in the dark about this?

It changes everything,

from what we've been taught in school

to what we learned through

different religious beliefs.

I mean it will change everything.

Navy personnel [over radio]: Oh my gosh, dude.

Narrator: Perhaps it's Dr. Michael P. Masters' theory

of future humans returning to Earth,

that is the reason for all of the subterfuge.

It's curious that this is so much information.

We have video evidence.

We have eyewitness testimony from pilots.

We have radar evidence.

And yet we just don't have the answers.

Navy personnel [over radio]: Look at that!

Chris: The Nimitz case is still officially unidentified.

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