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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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Subtitles by explosiveskull
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Our God most definitely
answers our prayers,
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listens to our prayers and moves
in response to our prayers.
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Be thankful for what
God has blessed you with
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and for what God will bless you with.
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(WHISTLES) Wishes.
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Hello.
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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Before your sister passed away
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you said you prayed night and day.
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I have faith that you
will intervene tomorrow
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and I will finally get the success
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that I've been praying for.
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Keep writing, maybe you can get
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a smaller publishing company
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to put out one of your future books.
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You know, what did I do
that was so bad in this life
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that you can't answer one,
just one of my prayers?
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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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It's like I can't remember people's names.
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You're uh, you're.
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- BRIAN: It starts with a B.
- Beltron.
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Ben.
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Benson?
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BRIAN: Brian.
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Brian.
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And you're the butler.
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Only if I've been
demoted from being your PA.
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Oh sorry sugar pops
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but I'm not gonna be able
to make dinner tonight.
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You're Darren Bennett.
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We got married?
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And you are?
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I'm Betsy.
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Betsy Simon.
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Betsy Simon.
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Yeah, no.
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I'm married, I live in a mansion
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and all of this because
apparently the books I've written
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have done really well
and have made me wealthy.
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If what you say is true,
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then it would appear that God
has answered your prayers.
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All of them?
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If he answered them all,
then it all makes sense.
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He's gotta put things back.
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(DOOR KNOCKING)
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Not now.
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BRIAN: Sorry to bother
you, but your sister is here.
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(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
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So if you ask God to put
things back and he does
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then you lose Sally again.
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So you finally believe me?
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No.
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You used to work for us.
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For Wishes Incorporated,
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until the end of last
year and then you quit.
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We caught her, we're taking
her to court and that's it.
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You think Sally took the money?
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Here we go again, you know this.
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She's a criminal.
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You're so busy being a celebrity,
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you can't even see what it
did to you or your family.
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Whatever the reason,
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that is no justification for what you did.
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So where do I go from here?
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Let God do what He does and
trust that He knows wisdom.
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Not my will, but your will be done.
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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BETSY VOICEOVER: Again
God answered my prayer
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and I returned to the life
I was supposed to live.
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I probably won't tell
anyone what happened,
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not that they'd believe me.
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Except for maybe Pastor John.
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Like Ann Westphal suggested
I will continue to write.
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My next book will be fiction
to those who read it,
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but to me, it really happened.
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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Want some, here you go.
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Now there you go.
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Time to celebrate Wishes.
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(CAT MEOWS)
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No, this one's not about you.
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(CAT MEOWS)
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Heavenly Father, thank you for guiding me
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through the pages of this book.
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I hope readers will like it
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and maybe benefit from it as I did.
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If it ever gets published that is.
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Sorry.
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(PEACEFUL HYMNAL MUSIC)
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- Pastor John.
- Betsy.
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Oh boy, chocolate chip?
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White chocolate chip.
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Oh, did you make them?
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I did.
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Okay well, I'm probably
gonna sneak off with
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whatever's left over.
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You should, I made 'em just for you.
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- Pastor John.
- Yeah.
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I have the flyers for the fundraiser
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- what do you think?
- Oh Jerry, that looks great.
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I really appreciate it.
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Okay, I'll take 'em
and give 'em to your wife
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and have her run 'em off okay.
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- Great, thank you.
- Okay, alright.
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How's that fundraising coming along?
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Well not as good as we were hoping for.
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Yeah, repairing steeples
over 100 years old,
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not to mention the roof,
it just isn't cheap.
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Well, if we don't raise
the funds where will we go?
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The Elders are looking
into moving services.
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Maybe, perhaps the community center.
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But you know, we are gonna stay positive,
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continue our prayers and
God will know what to do.
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Speaking of prayer, it's done.
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What?
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Heavens to Betsy, I
finished it yesterday.
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Congratulations, oh my
goodness, how long did it take?
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Six months, give or take.
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Is that how long the other ones took?
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This one came to me a little
easier than the last ones.
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But there's no Wishes this time?
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Well technically she's in it,
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but no, this one isn't about her.
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Hmm, I wonder who the
main character is then?
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Obviously from the
title she's got my name.
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(LAUGHS) Yes.
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Okay, so what's next?
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Um, I copyright it,
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send it to potential publishers, agents.
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What about the woman
you were working with.
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You said she had some sort of connection
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to the publishing business?
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Oh, things didn't work out with her.
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That's too bad.
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Well good luck.
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And I can't wait any longer,
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we've gotta dig into those cookies.
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Yeah, let's help you.
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Let's see what you did.
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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Betsy, you look amazing!
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Veronica, thanks.
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I'm moving to LA.
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Wow.
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Did something happen?
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Are you gonna be on a TV show?
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No, it's just time to go.
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There's nothing here in Chicago
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for up and coming actors my age.
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Bit of a contradiction there.
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What do you mean?
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Well, isn't up and
coming usually used a term
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used for younger...
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Never mind.
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Uh, what about all the shows
that they shoot here though?
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I mean there's Chicago Fire,
Chicago PD, Chicago Plumbers.
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Impossible.
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Too many actors and not enough shows.
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Aren't there more actors out in LA
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and wouldn't the
competition be even greater?
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Not if you stand out.
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You stand out, do you?
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What do you mean?
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Never mind.
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Do you need any furniture?
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I'm selling everything.
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Uh, no, I don't.
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I don't have enough room as it is.
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You're not bringing anything with you?
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I can't, I'm moving into a commune.
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A commune?
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Yeah, with other people who
can't afford a place to live.
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A lot of actors do that.
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It's like a homeless shelter
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but with better restroom facilities
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and there's a Starbucks nearby.
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Wow, that sounds awful.
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What do you mean?
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Never mind.
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Here's my card, with my cell number.
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If you know of anyone
looking to buy furniture,
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or kitchen stuff, or
things that people need,
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you know, to live.
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Ronnie Love, professional
actress, model, singer,
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dancer, comedian, voiceover
artist, stunt double,
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body double, movie extra, poet.
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Dark is the night, I can't see.
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Death is holding his hands over my eyes.
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Dark is the night, on one knee.
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Death is stepping on my life.
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I can't breathe, take it away, far away.
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(CHEERFUL MUSIC)
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Wow.
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I know right.
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Too much talent and not enough
room on that stupid card.
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No, yeah where would you put it?
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Say, whatever happened
to that film audition
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you had a while back?
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Which one?
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BETSY: The one with
the killer zombie trees?
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Oh, yeah.
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Amazing concept, amazing
script and an amazing director.
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Couldn't raise the
money, it never got made.
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Darren Bennett.
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Right, you've heard of him.
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Nope.
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Got another audition
in a couple of hours.
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Another film audition?
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Dog food.
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Excuse me?
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Commercial.
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It's for the role of a dog owner
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that believes her dog is
going to be a movie star,
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even though it's a mutt.
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(DOG BARKS)
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You'll nail it.
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Thanks.
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Break a leg.
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You bet.
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(UPBEAT MUSIC)
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(CRASHING)
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My leg!
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Oh my goodness.
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I can't move it.
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(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
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(TV AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
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They're here Mr. Dackery.
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And they have been here for
at least the past six decades.
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Why can't we see them Mr. Carter?
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Well, they have
infiltrated our world leaders
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and are slowly taking
over other countries.
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The United States?
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Especially the United States.
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I mean, how else would you
explain all the chaos and mayhem?
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Dividing our country right now?
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They control us Mr. Dackery
and they are everywhere.
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They do subliminal messages
in our newspapers, magazines,
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TV commercials, billboards,
internet websites.
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Who is doing this Mr. Carter?
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Aliens.
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Illegal aliens.
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No.
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No, no, aliens from another universe.
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Extra terrestrials.
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Those little guys who like
to phone home, no doubt.
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And I suppose they look like us
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which makes it hard for us to see them.
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Not unless you're wearing these.
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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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(GASPS)
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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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What'd I tell you?
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(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
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You're an idiot Mr. Carter.
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Alright somebody contact the
producers of Finding Bigfoot
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and tell 'em we've got another nut ball
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that's looking for his own reality show.
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I have a PHD in
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Neuro Extra Terrestrial
Science from Cambridge.
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And you told me you believed me,
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and you wanted to enlighten the world
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and bring this important
matter to the light.
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00:14:24,922 --> 00:14:26,300
And now you.
268
00:14:26,302 --> 00:14:27,265
Oh you're rude.
269
00:14:30,332 --> 00:14:31,770
No doubt.
270
00:14:31,772 --> 00:14:32,915
(TV AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
271
00:14:32,917 --> 00:14:33,830
(LAUGHS)
272
00:14:33,832 --> 00:14:34,670
Hi Betsy.
273
00:14:34,672 --> 00:14:36,300
Mrs. Poscotti.
274
00:14:36,302 --> 00:14:38,720
I really like the look of this place.
275
00:14:38,722 --> 00:14:42,389
Oh thanks, we just finished
remodeling last week.
276
00:14:42,391 --> 00:14:43,910
(LAUGHS)
277
00:14:43,912 --> 00:14:46,230
You don't have an appointment.
278
00:14:46,232 --> 00:14:47,734
But I have a concern.
279
00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,319
Concern?
280
00:14:50,321 --> 00:14:51,499
You remember that tooth
281
00:14:51,501 --> 00:14:53,239
that the dentist couldn't put back in?
282
00:14:53,241 --> 00:14:54,309
Yeah.
283
00:14:54,311 --> 00:14:56,322
I've given it more than enough time
284
00:14:56,324 --> 00:14:59,349
but I just can't go on eating without it.
285
00:14:59,351 --> 00:15:02,159
It's caused a lot of lopsided chewing,
286
00:15:02,161 --> 00:15:03,289
as I knew it would.
287
00:15:03,291 --> 00:15:06,749
So, I need him to pull
the one on the other side.
288
00:15:06,751 --> 00:15:08,259
You know, for balance.
289
00:15:08,261 --> 00:15:09,114
Balance.
290
00:15:09,983 --> 00:15:10,949
Um (LAUGHS).
291
00:15:10,951 --> 00:15:14,204
I'm assuming there's nothing
wrong with the other tooth?
292
00:15:14,206 --> 00:15:15,354
No, no.
293
00:15:18,981 --> 00:15:21,125
Mrs. Poscotti.
294
00:15:21,127 --> 00:15:26,127
I am sure that the dentist
will not pull a healthy tooth.
295
00:15:27,911 --> 00:15:30,839
It would have to be infected or cracked.
296
00:15:30,841 --> 00:15:31,804
Oh, okay.
297
00:15:33,621 --> 00:15:36,370
(CHEERFUL MUSIC)
298
00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:38,803
I'll see what I can do.
299
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,233
Mrs. Poscotti wait.
300
00:15:49,693 --> 00:15:52,360
(PHONE RINGING)
301
00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:03,393
Hello.
302
00:16:14,010 --> 00:16:15,768
How have you been?
303
00:16:15,770 --> 00:16:16,653
I've been good.
304
00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:19,660
Heavens to Betsy.
305
00:16:20,630 --> 00:16:21,703
I'd like to read it.
306
00:16:23,139 --> 00:16:26,022
An associate of mine, Stacey
Blair told me about it.
307
00:16:35,529 --> 00:16:37,807
I'm sorry Miss Westphal,
308
00:16:37,809 --> 00:16:39,712
haven't we been here before?
309
00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:44,447
It's obvious there are
still some bad feelings
310
00:16:44,449 --> 00:16:45,597
about what happened.
311
00:16:45,599 --> 00:16:48,357
Otherwise you would have sent
me a copy of the manuscript
312
00:16:48,359 --> 00:16:50,867
instead of me finding out
about it from other agents
313
00:16:50,869 --> 00:16:51,969
through the grapevine.
314
00:16:52,869 --> 00:16:54,202
And I understand.
315
00:16:55,959 --> 00:16:58,677
And there's probably no way I can convince you
316
00:16:58,679 --> 00:16:59,827
I did nothing wrong.
317
00:16:59,829 --> 00:17:02,047
So, I'm not even going to try.
318
00:17:02,049 --> 00:17:05,702
Instead, let me make it up to you.
319
00:17:05,704 --> 00:17:07,257
Give me a chance to read the book
320
00:17:07,259 --> 00:17:09,567
and if it's as good as Stacey says it is,
321
00:17:09,569 --> 00:17:10,819
we'll take it from there.
322
00:17:12,558 --> 00:17:14,621
What have you got to lose?
323
00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:18,627
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
324
00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:23,166
Well.
325
00:17:25,598 --> 00:17:26,431
Should I?
326
00:17:27,897 --> 00:17:30,230
(CAT MEOWS)
327
00:17:31,268 --> 00:17:32,101
Okay.
328
00:17:34,015 --> 00:17:35,565
You better be right about this.
329
00:17:39,869 --> 00:17:41,869
(SIGHS)
330
00:17:44,531 --> 00:17:47,531
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
331
00:18:00,647 --> 00:18:02,170
I'm very impressed.
332
00:18:04,157 --> 00:18:05,085
Thanks.
333
00:18:05,087 --> 00:18:06,825
I like the story,
334
00:18:06,827 --> 00:18:09,835
the whole idea of God answering
the main character's prayers
335
00:18:09,837 --> 00:18:11,630
all at once is very clever.
336
00:18:13,173 --> 00:18:14,385
Thanks.
337
00:18:14,387 --> 00:18:16,335
The story has been done before of course.
338
00:18:16,337 --> 00:18:18,245
It's A Wonderful Life and such,
339
00:18:18,247 --> 00:18:22,065
but it's so sweet, so heartfelt
340
00:18:22,067 --> 00:18:24,470
and what happens with the
sister, heartbreaking.
341
00:18:26,357 --> 00:18:27,635
I also like the whole thing
342
00:18:27,637 --> 00:18:30,255
about the main character being
a writer of children's books
343
00:18:30,257 --> 00:18:31,610
with dreams of success.
344
00:18:33,437 --> 00:18:35,915
Inspired by personal experiences.
345
00:18:35,917 --> 00:18:36,748
Uh huh.
346
00:18:36,750 --> 00:18:39,765
The main character even has
a similar name Betsy Simmons.
347
00:18:39,767 --> 00:18:42,555
I've never named a
character after myself before.
348
00:18:42,557 --> 00:18:43,388
Uh huh.
349
00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:45,718
However, I did not like the publisher
350
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,799
who may have been a con artist.
351
00:18:54,136 --> 00:18:54,969
Sorry.
352
00:18:56,836 --> 00:18:59,769
All writers draw from
experience one way or another.
353
00:19:00,816 --> 00:19:03,494
Even if your facts weren't quite right.
354
00:19:03,496 --> 00:19:04,329
Anyway.
355
00:19:05,936 --> 00:19:08,924
Even though most would
consider it a religious novel,
356
00:19:08,926 --> 00:19:11,314
I think the story has
great crossover appeal
357
00:19:11,316 --> 00:19:13,949
to both religious and mainstream markets.
358
00:19:15,156 --> 00:19:16,764
I know a couple of publishers
359
00:19:16,766 --> 00:19:18,566
who might be interested in the book.
360
00:19:19,806 --> 00:19:23,226
But, before I can send it to them
361
00:19:25,086 --> 00:19:28,249
I need to become your agent.
362
00:19:37,555 --> 00:19:38,648
No money up front.
363
00:19:42,095 --> 00:19:45,863
I get the usual 15%
but only when they pay.
364
00:19:45,865 --> 00:19:47,565
I'm willing to do this if you are?
365
00:19:50,165 --> 00:19:51,718
If you will trust me?
366
00:19:58,144 --> 00:19:58,977
Okay.
367
00:20:02,210 --> 00:20:04,960
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
368
00:21:11,443 --> 00:21:13,000
He did it Wishes.
369
00:21:13,002 --> 00:21:14,811
(CAT MEOWS)
370
00:21:14,813 --> 00:21:17,016
God is still answering my prayers.
371
00:21:18,281 --> 00:21:21,031
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
372
00:21:49,972 --> 00:21:52,305
(CAT MEOWS)
373
00:22:10,672 --> 00:22:13,744
You don't start helping out,
you're not getting any of this.
374
00:22:13,746 --> 00:22:16,079
(CAT MEOWS)
375
00:22:18,015 --> 00:22:20,765
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
376
00:22:30,646 --> 00:22:31,479
Perfect.
377
00:22:37,179 --> 00:22:40,262
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
378
00:22:46,844 --> 00:22:49,736
(PEACEFUL PIANO MUSIC)
379
00:22:49,738 --> 00:22:52,738
(PEOPLE CHATTERING)
380
00:22:57,541 --> 00:22:59,694
Terrence has a very
unique writing style.
381
00:23:02,153 --> 00:23:04,986
(DOORBELL CHIMES)
382
00:23:07,885 --> 00:23:10,329
Ann, good to see you.
383
00:23:10,331 --> 00:23:12,369
Dorothy, how's he doing?
384
00:23:12,371 --> 00:23:15,559
You know Terrence, he's
working the room the best he can.
385
00:23:15,561 --> 00:23:18,399
Dorothy, this is Betsy
Simon, she's the author of...
386
00:23:18,401 --> 00:23:20,819
Heavens to Betsy, yeah.
387
00:23:20,821 --> 00:23:22,589
So you've read it?
388
00:23:22,591 --> 00:23:24,859
No, but I've heard a lot about it.
389
00:23:24,861 --> 00:23:26,549
I'll take your coats.
390
00:23:26,551 --> 00:23:28,479
Help yourself to finger food and drinks
391
00:23:28,481 --> 00:23:30,654
and I'll let Terrence know you're here.
392
00:23:34,955 --> 00:23:38,538
Mostly mainstream
authors and PR people here.
393
00:23:38,540 --> 00:23:39,918
I'll introduce you to them later,
394
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,458
be yourself, talk, mingle.
395
00:23:43,460 --> 00:23:44,560
That's why we're here.
396
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,028
But stay away from the
religious aspects of the book.
397
00:23:50,030 --> 00:23:52,218
We need to focus on the
mainstream audience,
398
00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:53,768
keep it low key for now.
399
00:23:53,770 --> 00:23:56,388
There may already be an 800
pound white gorilla in the room
400
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:57,928
from the title alone.
401
00:23:57,930 --> 00:23:58,763
Ciao.
402
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,043
A white gorilla?
403
00:24:11,586 --> 00:24:14,948
I think we've got Simon
and Garfunkel, England, um.
404
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:16,380
Peter and Gordon.
405
00:24:16,382 --> 00:24:18,142
- Yes.
- Your age is showing.
406
00:24:18,144 --> 00:24:19,387
(LAUGHING)
407
00:24:19,389 --> 00:24:21,028
Well let it.
408
00:24:21,030 --> 00:24:23,877
It was a better time, magical.
409
00:24:23,879 --> 00:24:27,067
Speaking of magical, love the book.
410
00:24:27,069 --> 00:24:28,527
Oh well thank you.
411
00:24:28,529 --> 00:24:29,360
Me too.
412
00:24:29,362 --> 00:24:30,772
So you've read it?
413
00:24:30,774 --> 00:24:34,344
No, but I've heard of it.
414
00:24:34,346 --> 00:24:37,777
Well, I did and it was wonderful.
415
00:24:37,779 --> 00:24:40,507
It reminded me a little bit
of the movie, The Family Man,
416
00:24:40,509 --> 00:24:42,507
you know the one with Nicolas Cage.
417
00:24:42,509 --> 00:24:43,782
Oh so it's fiction?
418
00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:47,997
Yes.
419
00:24:47,999 --> 00:24:49,487
Oh tell us a little bit about it
420
00:24:49,489 --> 00:24:51,642
from the mouth and the mind of the author.
421
00:24:54,419 --> 00:24:57,387
Well it follows the lead
character, Betsy Simmons.
422
00:24:57,389 --> 00:24:58,220
Simon.
423
00:24:58,222 --> 00:24:59,857
- Simmons.
- Oh.
424
00:24:59,859 --> 00:25:01,487
She is a children's book author
425
00:25:01,489 --> 00:25:04,267
who prays for a big
publishing deal to happen
426
00:25:04,269 --> 00:25:06,977
and then when it doesn't she blames God
427
00:25:06,979 --> 00:25:11,978
for not answering that, or
any of her other prayers ever.
428
00:25:12,048 --> 00:25:14,766
Then all of a sudden, He does.
429
00:25:14,768 --> 00:25:17,141
He answers all of them at once.
430
00:25:18,198 --> 00:25:22,201
So it's like the book The
Shack, a book about God.
431
00:25:24,598 --> 00:25:25,606
No.
432
00:25:25,608 --> 00:25:27,361
It's doing very well.
433
00:25:28,248 --> 00:25:29,198
A Christian book?
434
00:25:30,558 --> 00:25:31,656
No.
435
00:25:31,658 --> 00:25:34,120
It's a book everyone can enjoy.
436
00:25:34,122 --> 00:25:34,955
Hmm.
437
00:25:36,988 --> 00:25:39,726
It's such a heartfelt, delightful story.
438
00:25:39,728 --> 00:25:41,271
You'll laugh, you'll cry.
439
00:25:45,483 --> 00:25:50,483
(CLEARS THROAT) Are you
just as bored as I am?
440
00:25:52,898 --> 00:25:54,716
It could be worse.
441
00:25:54,718 --> 00:25:56,601
Beats moving around new furniture.
442
00:25:59,447 --> 00:26:03,470
Are you an author, an agent or other?
443
00:26:04,947 --> 00:26:05,780
An author.
444
00:26:07,777 --> 00:26:08,610
And you?
445
00:26:11,832 --> 00:26:14,680
A friend of a friend
of the wife of the host.
446
00:26:16,489 --> 00:26:17,435
Oh.
447
00:26:17,437 --> 00:26:18,501
(LAUGHS)
448
00:26:18,503 --> 00:26:19,535
Other
449
00:26:19,537 --> 00:26:20,370
Yeah.
450
00:26:21,291 --> 00:26:22,740
What's the name of your book?
451
00:26:24,617 --> 00:26:25,870
Heavens to Betsy.
452
00:26:26,937 --> 00:26:29,210
And I'm sure you haven't read it.
453
00:26:30,797 --> 00:26:32,045
No.
454
00:26:32,047 --> 00:26:32,880
Of course not.
455
00:26:34,037 --> 00:26:35,387
Interesting title though.
456
00:26:38,887 --> 00:26:39,720
How's that?
457
00:26:41,207 --> 00:26:43,230
The phrase Heavens to Betsy.
458
00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:48,484
(LAUGHS)
459
00:26:48,486 --> 00:26:50,084
Alright.
460
00:26:50,086 --> 00:26:55,086
It's a mild American exclamation
of shock or surprise.
461
00:26:55,506 --> 00:26:58,944
It's dated, only really
encountered in print
462
00:26:58,946 --> 00:27:00,646
and then most often as
463
00:27:01,736 --> 00:27:04,189
an evocation of times past.
464
00:27:05,416 --> 00:27:08,584
It was also used as a
substitute for swearing,
465
00:27:08,586 --> 00:27:12,354
but where it comes from
nobody has the slightest idea.
466
00:27:12,356 --> 00:27:13,920
Betsy.
467
00:27:13,922 --> 00:27:14,755
Betsy.
468
00:27:16,536 --> 00:27:17,369
I gotta go.
469
00:27:18,286 --> 00:27:20,989
I guess you'll just have
to buy it to find out.
470
00:27:22,676 --> 00:27:23,526
Nice meeting you.
471
00:27:29,846 --> 00:27:30,679
Hello.
472
00:27:32,326 --> 00:27:33,261
Yeah.
473
00:27:33,263 --> 00:27:35,845
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
474
00:27:40,215 --> 00:27:41,088
Betsy Simon.
475
00:27:42,875 --> 00:27:43,708
Yes (LAUGHS).
476
00:27:45,535 --> 00:27:46,542
Terrence McAfee.
477
00:27:46,544 --> 00:27:47,725
The host.
478
00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:51,703
But, not a very good one as you can see
479
00:27:51,705 --> 00:27:54,053
by how long it's taken me
to finally speak to you.
480
00:27:54,055 --> 00:27:55,558
Oh no, hi.
481
00:27:56,445 --> 00:27:57,278
Welcome.
482
00:28:01,405 --> 00:28:05,352
So I'm um, I'm told we
have something in common.
483
00:28:05,354 --> 00:28:07,288
(COUGHS) The same agent.
484
00:28:08,571 --> 00:28:10,693
Oh, yes.
485
00:28:10,695 --> 00:28:12,003
She any good?
486
00:28:12,005 --> 00:28:13,780
(LAUGHING)
487
00:28:13,782 --> 00:28:16,068
Oh I like you already.
488
00:28:16,925 --> 00:28:17,758
Is she?
489
00:28:19,675 --> 00:28:23,854
Yes, but don't feel
obligated to tell her that.
490
00:28:30,478 --> 00:28:32,422
Yep, she knows her stuff.
491
00:28:32,424 --> 00:28:35,371
She can come off a bit cold, or you know,
492
00:28:35,373 --> 00:28:36,665
impersonal at times.
493
00:28:36,667 --> 00:28:38,537
It's the nature of the beast.
494
00:28:39,459 --> 00:28:42,927
Do what she says, you'll
make a lot of money.
495
00:28:43,894 --> 00:28:47,402
Your book, now I'm told
it's doing really well.
496
00:28:47,404 --> 00:28:49,302
Oh, yes, yes.
497
00:28:49,304 --> 00:28:51,977
I've been blessed.
498
00:28:53,434 --> 00:28:55,037
So you're a Christian writer?
499
00:29:00,597 --> 00:29:02,430
Uh, no, not exactly.
500
00:29:05,844 --> 00:29:07,477
I'm just curious.
501
00:29:13,970 --> 00:29:17,303
(PEACEFUL HYMNAL MUSIC)
502
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,581
Ah, you in a hurry?
503
00:29:29,583 --> 00:29:31,641
There is an Elvis
Presley movie marathon on
504
00:29:31,643 --> 00:29:34,636
this afternoon and
Clambake comes on at two.
505
00:29:34,638 --> 00:29:36,911
Oh Clambake, is that a movie?
506
00:29:36,913 --> 00:29:37,956
Oh it's a classic.
507
00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:42,001
Wow, well I didn't know
you were an Elvis fan.
508
00:29:42,003 --> 00:29:43,631
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
509
00:29:43,633 --> 00:29:44,464
Thank you.
510
00:29:44,466 --> 00:29:46,311
Thank you very much.
511
00:29:46,313 --> 00:29:47,691
It's really just all in the lip.
512
00:29:47,693 --> 00:29:50,026
- Oh.
- Oh okay.
513
00:29:51,163 --> 00:29:53,381
Okay, just this one.
514
00:29:53,383 --> 00:29:54,541
Whoa, whoa, something's happening here,
515
00:29:54,543 --> 00:29:55,374
something's different.
516
00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:56,207
Um.
517
00:29:56,209 --> 00:29:58,650
Oh, no glasses.
518
00:29:58,652 --> 00:30:00,250
Yep, the book sales are doing well
519
00:30:00,252 --> 00:30:03,733
so I finally saved enough money for Lasik.
520
00:30:03,735 --> 00:30:04,720
Nice.
521
00:30:04,722 --> 00:30:07,540
Speaking of the book,
tell me you've read it.
522
00:30:07,542 --> 00:30:10,205
I'm so sorry I haven't,
but I promise I will.
523
00:30:11,392 --> 00:30:12,225
Oh okay.
524
00:30:16,422 --> 00:30:20,818
Hypothetically, would it be okay
525
00:30:20,820 --> 00:30:25,820
for someone to keep their faith low key
526
00:30:27,412 --> 00:30:28,725
for the sake of success?
527
00:30:29,662 --> 00:30:30,493
Low key?
528
00:30:30,495 --> 00:30:32,080
The other day I went to a party with Ann
529
00:30:32,082 --> 00:30:33,920
to promote my book.
530
00:30:33,922 --> 00:30:36,320
And of course there were
a lot of people there
531
00:30:36,322 --> 00:30:39,485
associated with the mainstream market.
532
00:30:40,922 --> 00:30:43,770
So Ann told me that I needed
to keep the faith aspects
533
00:30:43,772 --> 00:30:46,558
of my book out of
conversations with others.
534
00:30:48,294 --> 00:30:49,961
PASTOR JOHN: And?
535
00:30:51,731 --> 00:30:53,959
I did what she told me to do.
536
00:30:53,961 --> 00:30:55,397
Hmm.
537
00:30:55,399 --> 00:30:58,734
I pretty much denied my
faith and being a Christian.
538
00:31:00,431 --> 00:31:02,149
Three times.
539
00:31:02,151 --> 00:31:03,288
Three times huh?
540
00:31:04,491 --> 00:31:05,741
It was a bit like Peter
541
00:31:06,821 --> 00:31:10,334
and I felt really guilty afterwards.
542
00:31:11,445 --> 00:31:12,399
Whoever denies Me before men
543
00:31:12,401 --> 00:31:14,889
will be denied before the Angels of God.
544
00:31:14,891 --> 00:31:16,089
I know, I know.
545
00:31:16,091 --> 00:31:19,417
Betsy, you know, it's
the 21st Century and,
546
00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:21,479
there's so much political correctness
547
00:31:21,481 --> 00:31:23,749
and the fear of being labeled a fanatic,
548
00:31:23,751 --> 00:31:27,354
it just makes it harder than
ever to stand for something.
549
00:31:28,381 --> 00:31:29,944
Especially for Him.
550
00:31:31,439 --> 00:31:32,270
I know.
551
00:31:32,272 --> 00:31:34,908
And I don't have a problem
doing that one on one,
552
00:31:34,910 --> 00:31:37,018
but in public, I mean
that's a whole other story.
553
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:38,698
It's, it's so difficult.
554
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:39,618
I mean in the other life,
555
00:31:39,620 --> 00:31:43,041
I had to speak in front of a
group of atheists, it, it...
556
00:31:43,043 --> 00:31:46,791
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
557
00:31:46,793 --> 00:31:51,507
I mean, in the book, the character, Betsy,
558
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,660
had to speak in front of
an atheist organization
559
00:31:56,662 --> 00:32:01,662
and it was very, very difficult for her.
560
00:32:04,970 --> 00:32:08,183
Your book has now just gone
to the top of my to do list.
561
00:32:10,135 --> 00:32:12,885
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
562
00:32:14,793 --> 00:32:18,384
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
563
00:32:18,386 --> 00:32:20,386
(SIGHS)
564
00:32:41,061 --> 00:32:43,061
(MOANS)
565
00:32:44,909 --> 00:32:46,013
(CAT MEOWS)
566
00:32:46,015 --> 00:32:47,868
I'm really sorry girl.
567
00:32:47,870 --> 00:32:50,537
(PHONE BUZZING)
568
00:32:53,169 --> 00:32:54,237
Hi Ann.
569
00:32:54,239 --> 00:32:56,787
You missed the phone
interview with Chicago Magazine.
570
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:57,622
I did?
571
00:33:01,229 --> 00:33:02,937
I am so sorry.
572
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:05,787
I'll see what I can do,
but this is the second time.
573
00:33:05,789 --> 00:33:07,802
I know, I know.
574
00:33:09,679 --> 00:33:12,936
It's just getting harder to
do all these appearances,
575
00:33:12,938 --> 00:33:16,906
and interviews, and still keep my job.
576
00:33:16,908 --> 00:33:18,996
Well if your book keeps selling,
577
00:33:18,998 --> 00:33:21,663
you may not need that job anymore.
578
00:33:21,665 --> 00:33:23,715
I'll reschedule the interview,
579
00:33:23,717 --> 00:33:27,826
but these are busy people
with limited availability.
580
00:33:27,828 --> 00:33:31,836
Plus, I've had a request for
you to do a podcast appearance.
581
00:33:31,838 --> 00:33:33,338
And what about your next book?
582
00:33:35,108 --> 00:33:36,986
My next book?
583
00:33:36,988 --> 00:33:39,646
Many authors deliver two novels a year.
584
00:33:39,648 --> 00:33:41,876
You're gonna need to start writing soon.
585
00:33:41,878 --> 00:33:42,709
Any ideas?
586
00:33:42,711 --> 00:33:44,176
No.
587
00:33:44,178 --> 00:33:45,686
I haven't really thought about it.
588
00:33:45,688 --> 00:33:47,216
Well you should.
589
00:33:47,218 --> 00:33:49,586
We need to use the exposure
gained from this one
590
00:33:49,588 --> 00:33:51,056
to promote the next.
591
00:33:51,058 --> 00:33:52,576
Okay.
592
00:33:52,578 --> 00:33:57,376
Um, I'll start thinking
about what I wanna do next.
593
00:33:57,378 --> 00:33:59,355
With all due respect Betsy,
594
00:33:59,357 --> 00:34:03,025
you really should get a
better handle on your time.
595
00:34:03,027 --> 00:34:05,965
Have you considered hiring a
part time personal assistant?
596
00:34:05,967 --> 00:34:06,800
Okay.
597
00:34:08,059 --> 00:34:08,892
Okay.
598
00:34:11,687 --> 00:34:13,125
I'm really sorry Ann.
599
00:34:13,127 --> 00:34:14,485
We'll talk later.
600
00:34:14,487 --> 00:34:15,440
Kisses to Wishes.
601
00:34:21,164 --> 00:34:24,081
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
602
00:34:28,023 --> 00:34:31,055
(CAT MEOWS)
603
00:34:31,057 --> 00:34:33,607
Where in the world am I gonna find a PA?
604
00:34:39,856 --> 00:34:42,856
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
605
00:35:01,499 --> 00:35:02,484
Good morning.
606
00:35:02,486 --> 00:35:03,636
Hi, how can I help you?
607
00:35:04,826 --> 00:35:05,809
Brian.
608
00:35:06,986 --> 00:35:08,584
Yes.
609
00:35:08,586 --> 00:35:09,419
Have we met?
610
00:35:12,046 --> 00:35:14,201
No, no.
611
00:35:14,203 --> 00:35:15,201
No, no, no.
612
00:35:15,203 --> 00:35:19,074
But I had a feeling it
was one of those B names,
613
00:35:19,076 --> 00:35:24,044
you know like Benson
or Beltron, nevermind.
614
00:35:24,046 --> 00:35:25,116
What size?
615
00:35:25,118 --> 00:35:26,074
What?
616
00:35:26,076 --> 00:35:26,909
Shoe size.
617
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,563
Oh, oh yes.
618
00:35:30,565 --> 00:35:32,892
A nine.
619
00:35:32,894 --> 00:35:36,018
Well, let me see if
we have these in a nine.
620
00:35:37,045 --> 00:35:40,418
Have a seat and I'll be right with you.
621
00:35:45,685 --> 00:35:48,513
Okay, I couldn't find
that particular color,
622
00:35:48,515 --> 00:35:51,133
but let's just try this style
623
00:35:51,135 --> 00:35:53,918
and just make sure we get
a good fit there first.
624
00:35:57,625 --> 00:35:58,458
Oh my.
625
00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:03,083
What service.
626
00:36:03,085 --> 00:36:05,313
Well, you know we've been in business
627
00:36:05,315 --> 00:36:08,023
for quite some time now
628
00:36:08,025 --> 00:36:10,753
and we do things the way we always have.
629
00:36:10,755 --> 00:36:13,388
Oh I see.
630
00:36:14,382 --> 00:36:18,123
And what do you do here?
631
00:36:18,125 --> 00:36:19,858
I mean are you just a salesman?
632
00:36:22,854 --> 00:36:23,987
I'm the store manager.
633
00:36:24,934 --> 00:36:28,012
Ah, right, right.
634
00:36:28,014 --> 00:36:29,419
No of course.
635
00:36:29,421 --> 00:36:33,110
You're so good at keeping track of things
636
00:36:33,112 --> 00:36:36,162
and numbers and organizing, all of that.
637
00:36:36,164 --> 00:36:37,902
No, that makes sense,
that makes perfect sense.
638
00:36:37,904 --> 00:36:40,812
Of course you'd be a store manager.
639
00:36:40,814 --> 00:36:41,647
Perfect.
640
00:36:42,606 --> 00:36:43,437
So how does that feel?
641
00:36:43,439 --> 00:36:45,624
How long have you been doing this?
642
00:36:46,684 --> 00:36:48,182
What?
643
00:36:48,184 --> 00:36:49,802
This.
644
00:36:49,804 --> 00:36:51,197
Managing, the store?
645
00:36:52,364 --> 00:36:53,832
Oh, 26 years.
646
00:36:53,834 --> 00:36:58,446
Hmm, wow and have you
ever given any thought
647
00:36:58,448 --> 00:37:01,932
about doing another line of work?
648
00:37:01,934 --> 00:37:05,117
Maybe something similar, but
you know, a little different.
649
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:07,652
I suppose.
650
00:37:07,654 --> 00:37:09,232
See that's kind of what happened to me.
651
00:37:09,234 --> 00:37:13,109
I'm doing something that
I've always wanted to do.
652
00:37:13,111 --> 00:37:15,261
How does that feel?
653
00:37:15,263 --> 00:37:16,714
Well, I mean that's why I'm here.
654
00:37:16,716 --> 00:37:18,391
Things are getting out of hand
655
00:37:18,393 --> 00:37:21,281
and I really could use some
help keeping it all together.
656
00:37:21,283 --> 00:37:22,626
I, I meant the shoe.
657
00:37:24,283 --> 00:37:25,901
Oh right the shoe.
658
00:37:25,903 --> 00:37:26,736
Um.
659
00:37:28,983 --> 00:37:31,210
It's not really what I'm looking for.
660
00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:33,879
Alright.
661
00:37:33,881 --> 00:37:35,798
And what might that be?
662
00:37:36,813 --> 00:37:37,646
Well.
663
00:37:42,823 --> 00:37:43,656
You.
664
00:37:45,229 --> 00:37:46,060
Me?
665
00:37:46,062 --> 00:37:47,456
I have a proposition for you.
666
00:37:49,293 --> 00:37:51,801
I know it might sound a little weird,
667
00:37:51,803 --> 00:37:54,101
and I don't mean it in
any inappropriate way.
668
00:37:54,103 --> 00:37:56,011
No one ever does.
669
00:37:56,013 --> 00:38:00,410
But I wanna talk to you, not here.
670
00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:02,020
Can I buy you lunch?
671
00:38:02,022 --> 00:38:05,730
My name is Betsy Simon, I'm an author.
672
00:38:05,732 --> 00:38:08,940
My latest book Heavens to Betsy
is on the bestsellers list.
673
00:38:08,942 --> 00:38:10,850
Oh, congratulations.
674
00:38:10,852 --> 00:38:12,110
Thank you.
675
00:38:12,112 --> 00:38:15,590
The thing is my career is
really starting to take off
676
00:38:15,592 --> 00:38:17,400
and I'm losing my mind.
677
00:38:17,402 --> 00:38:19,180
I've worked full time at a dentist office
678
00:38:19,182 --> 00:38:21,275
as a receptionist for a long time now.
679
00:38:22,312 --> 00:38:24,440
And because of the success of the book
680
00:38:24,442 --> 00:38:27,990
I've been doing these interviews,
appearances, podcasts,
681
00:38:27,992 --> 00:38:30,201
you name it.
682
00:38:30,203 --> 00:38:33,375
And it's beginning to be a
lot more than I can handle.
683
00:38:35,402 --> 00:38:37,390
My agent wants me to start
working on my next book,
684
00:38:37,392 --> 00:38:38,540
which I'm trying to do
685
00:38:38,542 --> 00:38:40,810
but it's just getting to be more and more
686
00:38:40,812 --> 00:38:44,635
than I can handle alone.
687
00:38:46,821 --> 00:38:48,071
That's where you come in.
688
00:38:51,001 --> 00:38:51,832
Me?
689
00:38:51,834 --> 00:38:54,619
You're really good at
organizing and managing things.
690
00:38:54,621 --> 00:38:58,039
That's why you're a store manager.
691
00:38:58,041 --> 00:38:59,999
Yeah, you were born for that.
692
00:39:00,001 --> 00:39:02,309
So you're planning on
opening a shoe store?
693
00:39:02,311 --> 00:39:03,144
Yes.
694
00:39:04,841 --> 00:39:06,454
No, no, no.
695
00:39:07,561 --> 00:39:09,809
I need a PA.
696
00:39:09,811 --> 00:39:10,919
PA?
697
00:39:10,921 --> 00:39:13,829
A personal assistant.
698
00:39:13,831 --> 00:39:14,824
How personal?
699
00:39:16,661 --> 00:39:18,499
You would help me do what I do.
700
00:39:18,501 --> 00:39:20,266
But you write books.
701
00:39:20,268 --> 00:39:21,809
Yeah, yeah I know.
702
00:39:21,811 --> 00:39:24,499
So what does this have to do with shoes?
703
00:39:24,501 --> 00:39:25,739
Nothing.
704
00:39:25,741 --> 00:39:30,009
Alright, well I don't
understand why we're talking.
705
00:39:30,011 --> 00:39:31,179
Other than the possibility
706
00:39:31,181 --> 00:39:33,269
that you actually are losing your mind,
707
00:39:33,271 --> 00:39:35,058
in which case I'm not gonna be interested
708
00:39:35,060 --> 00:39:37,788
in any proposal of any kind.
709
00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:38,623
Alright.
710
00:39:40,254 --> 00:39:42,278
I'll tell you the truth.
711
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,688
With God as my witness,
maybe he'll intervene.
712
00:39:45,690 --> 00:39:47,658
As crazy as it sounds,
713
00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:51,558
you and I have worked together before.
714
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,540
You were my personal assistant
715
00:39:55,410 --> 00:39:57,078
and you were good at what you did.
716
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,778
And you helped me through
some very difficult times,
717
00:39:59,780 --> 00:40:04,318
both professionally and as a friend.
718
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,298
And the reason you don't
remember any of this
719
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,528
is because it happened
in an alternate reality
720
00:40:08,530 --> 00:40:11,678
where God was showing me what
my life would have been like
721
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,158
had all of my prayers been answered.
722
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,253
It's all in my book.
723
00:40:16,390 --> 00:40:18,388
So I decided to track
you down on the internet
724
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:21,108
and see if, maybe, you wanted
to work for me in this life
725
00:40:21,110 --> 00:40:24,022
because you were so good
at it in the other one.
726
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:26,512
Right.
727
00:40:28,918 --> 00:40:33,918
Well I, I have to get going Miss Simon.
728
00:40:37,189 --> 00:40:42,189
'Cause I uh, I'm due back on planet Earth.
729
00:40:42,419 --> 00:40:43,252
Wait.
730
00:40:45,809 --> 00:40:46,992
Brian, your watch.
731
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:52,817
That's the watch that your father gave you
732
00:40:52,819 --> 00:40:54,622
a couple of weeks before he died.
733
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:59,527
You saw that on the internet?
734
00:40:59,529 --> 00:41:01,057
No, no, no, no.
735
00:41:01,059 --> 00:41:04,782
That was something that you
had told me in the other life.
736
00:41:07,849 --> 00:41:09,716
Okay, just think about it alright.
737
00:41:09,718 --> 00:41:12,236
Take my card, think about it.
738
00:41:12,238 --> 00:41:13,736
You wouldn't even have to quit your job.
739
00:41:13,738 --> 00:41:16,756
It'd be part time, I'd show
you everything you need to know
740
00:41:16,758 --> 00:41:18,818
and pay you whatever you think is fair.
741
00:41:19,970 --> 00:41:22,887
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
742
00:41:28,628 --> 00:41:31,295
(UPBEAT MUSIC)
743
00:41:35,098 --> 00:41:38,096
This is Tammy Moore, on
today's Chi-Town Book Review
744
00:41:38,098 --> 00:41:40,952
my guest is book author
Betsy Simon, welcome.
745
00:41:40,954 --> 00:41:43,516
Thanks for having me Tammy.
746
00:41:43,518 --> 00:41:46,466
So your first books which
feature your cat Wishes,
747
00:41:46,468 --> 00:41:47,686
you wrote for children.
748
00:41:47,688 --> 00:41:49,846
Heaven to Betsy is clearly an adult novel,
749
00:41:49,848 --> 00:41:52,616
but it does have some childlike elements.
750
00:41:52,618 --> 00:41:54,711
Maybe left over from your earlier books?
751
00:41:56,058 --> 00:41:56,926
How's that?
752
00:41:56,928 --> 00:41:59,135
It reminded me of a children's story.
753
00:41:59,137 --> 00:42:02,500
Like Willy Wonka or Wizard of Oz.
754
00:42:04,317 --> 00:42:05,148
Really?
755
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:08,365
Hmm-mm, yes it's kind of
like an adult morality story
756
00:42:08,367 --> 00:42:11,595
with a childlike,
simplistic message of sort.
757
00:42:11,597 --> 00:42:13,925
How big a part did your
real experiences play
758
00:42:13,927 --> 00:42:15,480
in creating a work of fiction?
759
00:42:18,167 --> 00:42:19,000
Uh.
760
00:42:24,197 --> 00:42:25,230
It's not fiction.
761
00:42:26,277 --> 00:42:27,575
Sorry?
762
00:42:27,577 --> 00:42:28,527
It's not fiction.
763
00:42:29,687 --> 00:42:33,655
Everything that happened in
that book, really happened.
764
00:42:33,657 --> 00:42:35,875
God put me in an alternate reality
765
00:42:35,877 --> 00:42:38,055
and showed me what my
world would have been like
766
00:42:38,057 --> 00:42:39,865
had all of my prayers been answered.
767
00:42:39,867 --> 00:42:42,940
Then he put me back and
I wrote a book about it.
768
00:42:44,457 --> 00:42:45,484
Brought you back?
769
00:42:45,486 --> 00:42:46,354
Yes.
770
00:42:46,356 --> 00:42:47,224
From where?
771
00:42:47,226 --> 00:42:49,049
An alternate reality.
772
00:42:51,436 --> 00:42:52,269
He did?
773
00:42:53,166 --> 00:42:55,394
Yeah, He did.
774
00:42:55,396 --> 00:42:56,229
God.
775
00:42:59,216 --> 00:43:00,049
God.
776
00:43:03,476 --> 00:43:05,844
And how's that even possible?
777
00:43:05,846 --> 00:43:07,134
Got me.
778
00:43:07,136 --> 00:43:09,274
Well I certainly have a few
prayers I'd like answered.
779
00:43:09,276 --> 00:43:10,539
Can you say a few for me?
780
00:43:12,476 --> 00:43:16,244
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
781
00:43:16,246 --> 00:43:18,014
Well you heard it here first everyone.
782
00:43:18,016 --> 00:43:22,934
Betsy Simon's book Heavens
to Betsy is based on fact,
783
00:43:22,936 --> 00:43:24,823
not fiction, how about that?
784
00:43:27,042 --> 00:43:30,125
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
785
00:43:37,045 --> 00:43:38,963
What are you doing?
786
00:43:38,965 --> 00:43:39,893
Watching TV.
787
00:43:39,895 --> 00:43:41,953
No, the podcast.
788
00:43:41,955 --> 00:43:43,793
I made a promise to tell the truth.
789
00:43:43,795 --> 00:43:45,043
The truth?
790
00:43:45,045 --> 00:43:46,073
I know how it sounds.
791
00:43:46,075 --> 00:43:46,908
Do you?
792
00:43:47,785 --> 00:43:49,733
So you are telling me
793
00:43:49,735 --> 00:43:52,143
and everyone else who watched that podcast
794
00:43:52,145 --> 00:43:54,703
that you traveled to
an alternate dimension,
795
00:43:54,705 --> 00:43:58,253
or reality, or universe,
or whatever and came back?
796
00:43:58,255 --> 00:43:59,088
Yep.
797
00:44:00,225 --> 00:44:02,553
Are you sure that
was the right decision?
798
00:44:02,555 --> 00:44:03,793
Nope.
799
00:44:03,795 --> 00:44:04,628
Uh huh.
800
00:44:05,465 --> 00:44:07,223
I don't know what you're going for here.
801
00:44:07,225 --> 00:44:09,663
But crazy is no way to sell books!
802
00:44:09,665 --> 00:44:12,163
I can't keep doing damage control.
803
00:44:12,165 --> 00:44:14,073
If I can't trust you to stay on message
804
00:44:14,075 --> 00:44:18,423
I can't send you out to
interviews or podcast appearances.
805
00:44:18,425 --> 00:44:20,733
If you're gonna keep
saying things like this,
806
00:44:20,735 --> 00:44:22,192
I need to know about them.
807
00:44:22,194 --> 00:44:23,682
Are we on the same page?
808
00:44:23,684 --> 00:44:24,515
Yes.
809
00:44:24,517 --> 00:44:26,727
I'm serious, you'll let me know?
810
00:44:27,621 --> 00:44:32,621
I'm letting you know, right now.
811
00:44:32,694 --> 00:44:33,682
What do you mean?
812
00:44:33,684 --> 00:44:35,702
I've gotta go, we'll talk later.
813
00:44:35,704 --> 00:44:37,026
Betsy?
814
00:44:37,028 --> 00:44:40,028
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
815
00:44:41,350 --> 00:44:42,462
What'd I miss?
816
00:44:42,464 --> 00:44:44,442
During a live podcast,
817
00:44:44,444 --> 00:44:48,237
I did what I felt was the right
thing to do in God's eyes,
818
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,239
and I told the interviewer
that the book wasn't fiction.
819
00:44:56,834 --> 00:44:58,085
Okey doke.
820
00:44:58,087 --> 00:45:01,472
Okay, so if what you're saying is true
821
00:45:01,474 --> 00:45:04,722
and let's just say for the
sake of this very strange,
822
00:45:04,724 --> 00:45:07,467
but very interesting
conversation that it is.
823
00:45:09,363 --> 00:45:10,961
Why are you telling me all this?
824
00:45:10,963 --> 00:45:12,911
Because you read the book.
825
00:45:12,913 --> 00:45:14,613
You believed me in the other life.
826
00:45:15,953 --> 00:45:17,831
But not 'til the end of the book.
827
00:45:17,833 --> 00:45:21,286
Well does it have to
take that long this time?
828
00:45:22,933 --> 00:45:24,601
I just thought because it was me,
829
00:45:24,603 --> 00:45:27,621
Betsy Simon, in this reality,
the one that you knew,
830
00:45:27,623 --> 00:45:31,271
that you would believe me.
831
00:45:31,273 --> 00:45:36,121
So, Sandy in the book,
is your sister Sally?
832
00:45:36,123 --> 00:45:36,961
Yes.
833
00:45:36,963 --> 00:45:41,963
And then when God put Betsy,
well you, back into this life
834
00:45:44,393 --> 00:45:46,111
you had to lose her again.
835
00:45:46,113 --> 00:45:48,463
Why would you write about
something so painful?
836
00:45:53,743 --> 00:45:54,843
Because it happened.
837
00:45:56,473 --> 00:46:00,235
I really need for you to believe me.
838
00:46:01,262 --> 00:46:03,500
Things are gonna get
complicated from here on out
839
00:46:03,502 --> 00:46:04,610
now that I've told the truth.
840
00:46:04,612 --> 00:46:07,530
Betsy, you know, I've always
been here for you and your family
841
00:46:07,532 --> 00:46:10,160
and I will do my best to be here
842
00:46:10,162 --> 00:46:11,862
for whatever you're going through.
843
00:46:12,932 --> 00:46:16,635
Whether it's in this, or any reality.
844
00:46:18,942 --> 00:46:19,775
I'll take it.
845
00:46:20,869 --> 00:46:23,619
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
846
00:46:31,712 --> 00:46:32,740
Hello.
847
00:46:32,742 --> 00:46:33,573
Miss Simon.
848
00:46:33,575 --> 00:46:34,820
Brian.
849
00:46:34,822 --> 00:46:37,893
I'm calling to let you know that
850
00:46:37,895 --> 00:46:42,895
I'm not a compulsive man
and I never do anything
851
00:46:43,132 --> 00:46:45,729
without doing plenty of research first.
852
00:46:45,731 --> 00:46:48,299
So I bought your book
853
00:46:48,301 --> 00:46:50,759
and I watched the
podcast that you were on.
854
00:46:50,761 --> 00:46:52,179
You didn't have to buy the book,
855
00:46:52,181 --> 00:46:53,949
I would've given you a copy.
856
00:46:53,951 --> 00:46:55,169
Well that's very nice of you,
857
00:46:55,171 --> 00:46:57,859
but considering the circumstances
that's not necessary.
858
00:46:57,861 --> 00:47:00,269
That's what I liked about you.
859
00:47:00,271 --> 00:47:01,199
Like.
860
00:47:01,201 --> 00:47:02,534
That's what I like.
861
00:47:03,471 --> 00:47:08,050
Before this becomes another
episode from The Twilight Zone
862
00:47:08,052 --> 00:47:11,359
I just want to say that I have decided,
863
00:47:11,361 --> 00:47:16,361
that no matter how I much I
love my job in shoe sales,
864
00:47:16,601 --> 00:47:20,639
I think it's time to explore
other means of income.
865
00:47:20,641 --> 00:47:23,519
So I accept your offer.
866
00:47:23,521 --> 00:47:28,214
And we can, we can talk about
the salary next time we meet.
867
00:47:29,271 --> 00:47:30,184
That's great.
868
00:47:32,681 --> 00:47:34,478
I'm a little busy over
here, so I've gotta go,
869
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,258
but I will call you later
870
00:47:36,260 --> 00:47:38,460
with a time and a place
that we can meet up.
871
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:41,958
Thank you.
872
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,925
Well, you're welcome.
873
00:47:43,927 --> 00:47:46,010
(LAUGHS)
874
00:47:49,729 --> 00:47:54,569
Mrs. Potterman, how
good to see you again.
875
00:47:54,571 --> 00:47:57,654
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
876
00:47:59,282 --> 00:48:00,385
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
877
00:48:00,387 --> 00:48:02,554
(SOBBING)
878
00:48:03,813 --> 00:48:05,833
Mrs. Poscotti, what's wrong?
879
00:48:05,835 --> 00:48:08,002
(SOBBING)
880
00:48:09,460 --> 00:48:12,138
No Mrs. Poscotti, you didn't?
881
00:48:12,140 --> 00:48:14,138
Of course not, I paid the newspaper kid.
882
00:48:14,140 --> 00:48:15,317
Can we do this now?
883
00:48:16,355 --> 00:48:18,522
(SOBBING)
884
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,774
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
885
00:48:32,776 --> 00:48:35,607
(TV AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
886
00:48:35,609 --> 00:48:37,597
We're here with our
guest Caroline Hopper
887
00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:40,577
from the organization known as N.O.G.O.D.
888
00:48:40,579 --> 00:48:44,893
A national organization
dedicated to getting out deities
889
00:48:44,895 --> 00:48:46,647
in our society.
890
00:48:46,649 --> 00:48:48,167
Thank you Tandom.
891
00:48:48,169 --> 00:48:50,819
So Caroline, for the sake of our viewers
892
00:48:51,743 --> 00:48:53,557
who are unfamiliar with
you and your organization,
893
00:48:53,559 --> 00:48:55,017
it's been around for how long now?
894
00:48:55,019 --> 00:48:58,747
It officially began three
years ago this November.
895
00:48:58,749 --> 00:49:00,417
(LAUGHS)
896
00:49:00,419 --> 00:49:04,964
And, it's basically another organization
897
00:49:04,966 --> 00:49:07,451
that's attempting to re-enforce
898
00:49:07,453 --> 00:49:09,296
the separation of Church and State.
899
00:49:09,298 --> 00:49:11,866
Oh no no, Tandom, we're
much more than that.
900
00:49:11,868 --> 00:49:14,356
We at N.O.G.O.D. are against all forms
901
00:49:14,358 --> 00:49:17,126
of subliminal force fed religion,
902
00:49:17,128 --> 00:49:20,116
even within the context of
everyday terms and phrases.
903
00:49:20,118 --> 00:49:21,706
Can you give us an example?
904
00:49:21,708 --> 00:49:24,620
CAROLINE: Hmm, sneezing.
905
00:49:24,622 --> 00:49:26,116
Sneezing?
906
00:49:26,118 --> 00:49:30,205
Well not sneezing itself,
but the response God bless you.
907
00:49:30,207 --> 00:49:32,126
(LAUGHS)
908
00:49:32,128 --> 00:49:35,486
Okay, so you're saying that
909
00:49:35,488 --> 00:49:38,336
somebody could be doing this out of habit
910
00:49:38,338 --> 00:49:41,140
and be completely unaware
that it's happening.
911
00:49:41,142 --> 00:49:43,636
Yes (LAUGHS).
912
00:49:43,638 --> 00:49:44,886
Interesting.
913
00:49:44,888 --> 00:49:46,586
So who's behind this Miss Hopper?
914
00:49:46,588 --> 00:49:48,856
Well, all perpetrators are unknown
915
00:49:48,858 --> 00:49:51,836
in any proposed conspiracy Mr. Dackery.
916
00:49:51,838 --> 00:49:53,726
Conspiracy?
917
00:49:53,728 --> 00:49:54,996
No doubt.
918
00:49:54,998 --> 00:49:56,396
Well being agnostic yourself
919
00:49:56,398 --> 00:50:00,295
I'm sure you can agree that
religious agenda is everywhere,
920
00:50:00,297 --> 00:50:03,445
it's sometimes very deep
inside simple things.
921
00:50:03,447 --> 00:50:06,635
Of course, but something
a little more obvious?
922
00:50:06,637 --> 00:50:08,375
Well just the other day
I was watching a podcast
923
00:50:08,377 --> 00:50:12,145
with a young author who
wrote a book about God
924
00:50:12,147 --> 00:50:15,995
placing her in an alternate
universe to teach her a lesson.
925
00:50:15,997 --> 00:50:18,475
And then transporting her back.
926
00:50:18,477 --> 00:50:19,695
TANDOM: Back where?
927
00:50:19,697 --> 00:50:21,725
Well back to this universe,
928
00:50:21,727 --> 00:50:24,455
kind of like Alice in Wonderland.
929
00:50:24,457 --> 00:50:27,285
I didn't read the book, I
only watched the podcast
930
00:50:27,287 --> 00:50:29,255
because someone told me that N.O.G.O.D.
931
00:50:29,257 --> 00:50:30,475
is mentioned in the book.
932
00:50:30,477 --> 00:50:33,444
There's even a character
that resembles me (LAUGHS).
933
00:50:34,967 --> 00:50:37,940
- Really?
- Yes (LAUGHS).
934
00:50:37,942 --> 00:50:40,510
Does she have an obnoxious giggle?
935
00:50:44,097 --> 00:50:46,259
I'm sorry, giggle?
936
00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:52,904
You're so bad.
937
00:50:52,906 --> 00:50:54,347
Thank you.
938
00:50:54,349 --> 00:50:55,432
Great show.
939
00:50:56,539 --> 00:50:57,959
She's a nut.
940
00:50:57,961 --> 00:51:01,649
Yeah, I know who she was talking about.
941
00:51:01,651 --> 00:51:06,504
That author, that wrote
that book Heavens to Betsy,
942
00:51:06,506 --> 00:51:09,919
I saw a clip of the podcast on Facebook.
943
00:51:09,921 --> 00:51:12,794
Pretty weird stuff.
944
00:51:12,796 --> 00:51:13,627
How's that?
945
00:51:13,629 --> 00:51:17,114
Thing is, she really believes
946
00:51:17,116 --> 00:51:19,729
she was in an alternate universe,
947
00:51:19,731 --> 00:51:22,534
just like Alice in Wonderland,
948
00:51:22,536 --> 00:51:25,044
and returned and wrote a book about it.
949
00:51:25,046 --> 00:51:26,294
No doubt.
950
00:51:26,296 --> 00:51:29,814
Like Miss Hopper said,
she could be just doing it
951
00:51:29,816 --> 00:51:31,894
to increase her book sales.
952
00:51:31,896 --> 00:51:33,223
So?
953
00:51:33,225 --> 00:51:35,748
You said you needed
some more filler shows,
954
00:51:36,825 --> 00:51:41,543
Tandom in Wonderland.
955
00:51:41,545 --> 00:51:43,743
Think of what you could do with that?
956
00:51:43,745 --> 00:51:46,563
We just did a show with a delusional woman
957
00:51:46,565 --> 00:51:48,573
who doesn't believe in God,
958
00:51:48,575 --> 00:51:52,318
how about one about a
delusional woman who does?
959
00:51:56,865 --> 00:51:58,673
Put someone on it.
960
00:51:58,675 --> 00:51:59,648
Already did.
961
00:52:01,237 --> 00:52:03,987
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
962
00:52:07,454 --> 00:52:10,537
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
963
00:52:14,135 --> 00:52:15,853
Well I think that about covers it.
964
00:52:15,855 --> 00:52:17,105
You should be good to go.
965
00:52:22,724 --> 00:52:23,557
BRIAN: What?
966
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:27,510
Is that new?
967
00:52:27,512 --> 00:52:31,282
Well I just bought it, why?
968
00:52:31,284 --> 00:52:33,534
You just had one like
it in the other life.
969
00:52:34,864 --> 00:52:37,947
Well, where do you think
I got the idea for it?
970
00:52:42,922 --> 00:52:43,962
What was it like?
971
00:52:43,964 --> 00:52:46,682
What was what like?
972
00:52:46,684 --> 00:52:47,837
The other life?
973
00:52:49,504 --> 00:52:50,547
It was unreal.
974
00:52:52,194 --> 00:52:53,622
Everything was the same.
975
00:52:53,624 --> 00:52:58,624
The people, the places, I was
there but I was somebody else.
976
00:53:02,424 --> 00:53:06,667
Betsy Simmons-Burnett, the
famous children's book author.
977
00:53:08,344 --> 00:53:09,176
Yeah.
978
00:53:10,563 --> 00:53:13,531
Except for there I was
Betsy Simon-Bennett.
979
00:53:13,533 --> 00:53:17,780
Fame, fortune, it all became so important.
980
00:53:20,797 --> 00:53:22,986
And I turned my back on my family,
981
00:53:25,143 --> 00:53:26,546
and most important, God.
982
00:53:27,793 --> 00:53:29,131
Aren't you afraid that maybe
983
00:53:29,133 --> 00:53:31,661
you'll go down that same path again?
984
00:53:31,663 --> 00:53:33,921
No, I know that I'm human
985
00:53:33,923 --> 00:53:35,576
and that I'm gonna make mistakes.
986
00:53:37,103 --> 00:53:41,301
But as long as I put God
first, I'm in good hands.
987
00:53:41,303 --> 00:53:45,526
Not your will, but His will be done.
988
00:53:48,054 --> 00:53:50,346
(LAUGHS) Exactly.
989
00:53:51,283 --> 00:53:55,001
Well, I've got to get going.
990
00:53:55,003 --> 00:54:00,002
I have a lot of reading to catch up on.
991
00:54:00,932 --> 00:54:05,932
Oh and I'm just curious,
in the book you said
992
00:54:06,312 --> 00:54:09,115
that you changed all the
names of the characters,
993
00:54:10,352 --> 00:54:12,025
so why didn't you change mine?
994
00:54:16,093 --> 00:54:21,093
Um, I guess because you
were from the other life,
995
00:54:23,872 --> 00:54:26,150
I didn't think it'd matter
996
00:54:26,152 --> 00:54:29,510
and to be honest I wasn't
even sure that you existed.
997
00:54:29,512 --> 00:54:30,345
Maybe I don't.
998
00:54:36,612 --> 00:54:41,040
Well for what it's worth,
it's great to have you back.
999
00:54:41,042 --> 00:54:43,669
Well, I'll have to
take your word for it.
1000
00:54:51,711 --> 00:54:52,564
Have a good day.
1001
00:55:02,505 --> 00:55:05,338
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1002
00:55:17,781 --> 00:55:18,614
BETSY: Hi.
1003
00:55:21,401 --> 00:55:22,839
Oh hi.
1004
00:55:22,841 --> 00:55:24,505
Mind if I join you?
1005
00:55:24,507 --> 00:55:28,638
Uh, no, no, not at all.
1006
00:55:31,871 --> 00:55:33,098
Betsy Simon.
1007
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:34,208
The author right?
1008
00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:35,043
Yes.
1009
00:55:36,313 --> 00:55:39,858
Uh, Robert Trainer.
1010
00:55:39,860 --> 00:55:42,198
The friend of a friends
wife of this thing that yeah.
1011
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,518
Yes, that's me.
1012
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,383
Do you live near her?
1013
00:55:46,385 --> 00:55:50,606
Uh no, but I heard about this place
1014
00:55:50,608 --> 00:55:55,608
and yeah, it's becoming a regular.
1015
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:59,705
Or I'm becoming a regular.
1016
00:55:59,707 --> 00:56:00,738
(LAUGHING)
1017
00:56:00,740 --> 00:56:02,858
Never knew there were
Christian coffee shops.
1018
00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:03,838
Yeah, all the proceeds
1019
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,773
go to various Christian
charities and organizations.
1020
00:56:07,799 --> 00:56:09,216
I take it you are?
1021
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:12,403
I am, and you?
1022
00:56:14,060 --> 00:56:15,415
As far as I know I am.
1023
00:56:15,417 --> 00:56:17,183
You sound a little unsure.
1024
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:23,552
When I was a teenager,
1025
00:56:25,339 --> 00:56:30,339
my parents sent me to this
Christian summer camp.
1026
00:56:32,016 --> 00:56:33,766
I went with a friend.
1027
00:56:37,515 --> 00:56:39,947
It was a lot of fun, you know,
1028
00:56:39,949 --> 00:56:44,949
camp fires, games, girls, puberty.
1029
00:56:45,339 --> 00:56:49,107
Each night after dinner
there was a service.
1030
00:56:49,109 --> 00:56:53,342
Some kids would sing songs,
tell jokes or read the Bible.
1031
00:56:54,659 --> 00:56:58,137
And then the camp leader
would try to get the kids
1032
00:56:58,139 --> 00:57:03,139
to come to the altar, you know, to be saved.
1033
00:57:05,539 --> 00:57:10,538
But, they were really pushy about it.
1034
00:57:11,048 --> 00:57:13,726
Really, in what way?
1035
00:57:13,728 --> 00:57:17,988
It seemed like they
wouldn't end the service
1036
00:57:19,098 --> 00:57:21,536
until someone went to the altar.
1037
00:57:21,538 --> 00:57:24,296
Oh, really?
1038
00:57:24,298 --> 00:57:28,466
Anyway, there was this girl
1039
00:57:28,468 --> 00:57:32,401
and I was infatuated with her.
1040
00:57:33,738 --> 00:57:37,446
And one night she went to the altar so...
1041
00:57:37,448 --> 00:57:39,546
You did too.
1042
00:57:39,548 --> 00:57:40,576
Yeah.
1043
00:57:40,578 --> 00:57:42,306
So even though I was way too young,
1044
00:57:42,308 --> 00:57:47,308
to know what it meant,
I guess I was saved.
1045
00:57:48,945 --> 00:57:50,009
And now?
1046
00:57:50,011 --> 00:57:51,261
I don't know.
1047
00:57:52,448 --> 00:57:55,421
Over the years, I've
drifted away from Church.
1048
00:57:57,411 --> 00:58:00,610
Life has a way of complicating things.
1049
00:58:01,917 --> 00:58:02,936
How about you?
1050
00:58:02,938 --> 00:58:05,610
Ever been to a Christian camp?
1051
00:58:07,447 --> 00:58:08,280
No.
1052
00:58:09,557 --> 00:58:10,665
No, I haven't.
1053
00:58:10,667 --> 00:58:12,537
But I was raised in a Christian home
1054
00:58:13,852 --> 00:58:16,975
and my parents always went
to Church when I was little.
1055
00:58:16,977 --> 00:58:18,530
I'd say we prayed a lot.
1056
00:58:21,407 --> 00:58:25,465
Unlike my older sister,
Sally, I loved to pray.
1057
00:58:25,467 --> 00:58:27,107
We were close Sally and I.
1058
00:58:29,697 --> 00:58:31,165
Were?
1059
00:58:31,167 --> 00:58:32,000
Yeah.
1060
00:58:34,167 --> 00:58:35,770
You don't see her anymore?
1061
00:58:42,387 --> 00:58:45,139
She died, my mom too.
1062
00:58:49,146 --> 00:58:50,039
I'm sorry.
1063
00:58:52,186 --> 00:58:53,019
It's okay.
1064
00:58:54,756 --> 00:58:56,386
My mom died not too long ago
1065
00:58:58,122 --> 00:59:00,172
and when she did my dad moved to Arizona.
1066
00:59:02,096 --> 00:59:02,996
And your sister?
1067
00:59:04,516 --> 00:59:06,216
She died when we were teenagers.
1068
00:59:07,806 --> 00:59:11,649
She was 18, I was 17.
1069
00:59:13,438 --> 00:59:16,355
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1070
00:59:17,306 --> 00:59:18,864
PATIENT: Hi.
1071
00:59:18,866 --> 00:59:19,697
Can I help you?
1072
00:59:19,699 --> 00:59:21,484
Yes I'm here to see Dr. Jorgensen.
1073
00:59:21,486 --> 00:59:22,786
- Please sign in.
- Okay.
1074
00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:27,467
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1075
00:59:44,495 --> 00:59:46,158
Where's mom and dad?
1076
00:59:47,755 --> 00:59:50,005
Oh, they just went to
get something to eat.
1077
00:59:51,619 --> 00:59:53,786
(SOBBING)
1078
00:59:58,195 --> 00:59:59,028
It's not good.
1079
01:00:03,145 --> 01:00:04,928
When do you start the treatments?
1080
01:00:07,198 --> 01:00:08,031
I'm not.
1081
01:00:11,382 --> 01:00:12,215
Oh.
1082
01:00:14,303 --> 01:00:15,403
I don't get it, why not?
1083
01:00:15,405 --> 01:00:18,229
You can't stop the inevitable.
1084
01:00:18,231 --> 01:00:20,363
I put myself through hell,
1085
01:00:20,365 --> 01:00:23,042
feel like crap, look
like crap and for what?
1086
01:00:23,044 --> 01:00:23,875
To live.
1087
01:00:23,877 --> 01:00:26,517
It's stage four Betsy.
1088
01:00:29,744 --> 01:00:31,282
Mom and dad aren't gonna let you.
1089
01:00:31,284 --> 01:00:35,202
I'm 18, it's not up to them.
1090
01:00:35,204 --> 01:00:37,169
You've gotta fight this.
1091
01:00:37,171 --> 01:00:38,588
No, no I don't.
1092
01:00:40,724 --> 01:00:45,182
I am not gonna let them put all that crap in me
1093
01:00:45,184 --> 01:00:49,477
and spend what time I have
left bald and throwing up.
1094
01:00:50,987 --> 01:00:51,820
What?
1095
01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:56,927
I wanna enjoy whatever time I have left.
1096
01:00:58,927 --> 01:01:01,844
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1097
01:01:14,502 --> 01:01:16,669
(SOBBING)
1098
01:01:26,263 --> 01:01:27,346
I'll pray for you.
1099
01:01:33,143 --> 01:01:38,143
Malignant neoplasm of the
cervix, it was rare for her age.
1100
01:01:38,833 --> 01:01:40,158
That's why I thought that she'd beat it.
1101
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,736
And she might have, had
she not been so stubborn.
1102
01:01:43,983 --> 01:01:45,883
She'd be hospitalized towards the end.
1103
01:01:49,573 --> 01:01:50,834
Wow.
1104
01:01:50,836 --> 01:01:53,001
Maybe that was too much too soon.
1105
01:01:53,003 --> 01:01:54,396
Oh that's okay.
1106
01:01:55,803 --> 01:01:57,902
I was thinking the same thing, for me.
1107
01:01:58,902 --> 01:02:01,760
Especially when I mentioned the puberty.
1108
01:02:01,762 --> 01:02:04,012
(LAUGHING)
1109
01:02:07,622 --> 01:02:09,922
Would you like to go out
for dinner one night?
1110
01:02:17,142 --> 01:02:18,385
Let me think about it.
1111
01:02:19,367 --> 01:02:20,200
Okay.
1112
01:02:26,690 --> 01:02:29,440
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1113
01:02:31,212 --> 01:02:33,000
For those of you just tuning in tonight
1114
01:02:33,002 --> 01:02:34,750
on Chicago Christian Network,
1115
01:02:34,752 --> 01:02:38,770
we have with us a very interesting
and controversial guest.
1116
01:02:38,772 --> 01:02:41,050
Who's latest book Heavens to Betsy
1117
01:02:41,052 --> 01:02:43,790
has generated quite a bit of interest
1118
01:02:43,792 --> 01:02:46,974
due to a recent podcast
that has gone viral.
1119
01:02:48,291 --> 01:02:52,409
Betsy Simon, you said
that you had to be honest
1120
01:02:52,411 --> 01:02:54,014
and tell the truth?
1121
01:02:55,321 --> 01:02:56,339
Yes Grace.
1122
01:02:56,341 --> 01:02:58,551
Apparently you also are generating
1123
01:02:58,553 --> 01:03:00,649
a bit of negative publicity,
both you and your book.
1124
01:03:00,651 --> 01:03:02,254
People have called you crazy.
1125
01:03:03,121 --> 01:03:07,159
A self proclaimed phony
baloney prophet is it?
1126
01:03:07,161 --> 01:03:08,359
And worse.
1127
01:03:08,361 --> 01:03:09,194
Oh really.
1128
01:03:10,141 --> 01:03:13,194
Well I want you to know
that I for one, believe you.
1129
01:03:14,251 --> 01:03:15,419
Thank you.
1130
01:03:15,421 --> 01:03:18,979
A book like this can
impact so many people,
1131
01:03:18,981 --> 01:03:21,069
I mean not just Christians,
1132
01:03:21,071 --> 01:03:23,839
but people of all different
faiths and backgrounds.
1133
01:03:23,841 --> 01:03:28,379
And so what if not everyone
believes that it happened.
1134
01:03:28,381 --> 01:03:32,648
Pick up the book, read it,
and decide for yourselves.
1135
01:03:32,650 --> 01:03:35,538
Heavens to Betsy, the book.
1136
01:03:35,540 --> 01:03:40,540
An amazing testimony into
understanding God's will
1137
01:03:40,570 --> 01:03:42,743
and one woman's spiritual journey.
1138
01:03:44,427 --> 01:03:46,083
BETSY: I like the new look.
1139
01:03:48,030 --> 01:03:48,861
Thank you.
1140
01:03:48,863 --> 01:03:52,158
Oh you have a 4:00 p.m.
phone interview tomorrow
1141
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,478
with the Christian Faith News Program
1142
01:03:55,480 --> 01:04:00,254
and oh, there's a Pastor Thomas
from a Church in the city
1143
01:04:00,256 --> 01:04:04,932
and he would like you to speak
before his sermon on Sunday.
1144
01:04:04,934 --> 01:04:05,780
Really?
1145
01:04:05,782 --> 01:04:07,948
In front of the whole Church?
1146
01:04:07,950 --> 01:04:08,783
Yes.
1147
01:04:10,070 --> 01:04:11,088
It looks like you're a hit
1148
01:04:11,090 --> 01:04:14,428
with the Christians and
religious organizations
1149
01:04:14,430 --> 01:04:16,398
ever since your interview
with Miss Staples.
1150
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:17,860
That's great.
1151
01:04:17,862 --> 01:04:20,627
You know I wasn't expecting all this.
1152
01:04:20,629 --> 01:04:23,622
Wishes is staring at me again.
1153
01:04:24,828 --> 01:04:27,578
(CHEERFUL MUSIC)
1154
01:04:28,420 --> 01:04:31,267
You know what they say about animals,
1155
01:04:31,269 --> 01:04:32,926
they can sense things.
1156
01:04:37,299 --> 01:04:40,377
ROBERT: I saw you on
that Christian TV show.
1157
01:04:40,379 --> 01:04:42,617
- How did you know about...
- Your website.
1158
01:04:42,619 --> 01:04:45,854
Oh, it shows how little I
can keep track of those things.
1159
01:04:45,856 --> 01:04:46,817
Yeah.
1160
01:04:46,819 --> 01:04:48,512
Thank God for Brian.
1161
01:04:50,429 --> 01:04:51,262
Brian?
1162
01:04:52,689 --> 01:04:54,789
Brian, yeah, he's my personal assistant.
1163
01:04:58,159 --> 01:04:59,172
Like Brian.
1164
01:05:01,109 --> 01:05:03,059
Betsy Simmons-Burnett's PA in the book.
1165
01:05:05,009 --> 01:05:05,842
You read it?
1166
01:05:07,209 --> 01:05:08,408
You told me to buy it.
1167
01:05:09,608 --> 01:05:11,716
Okay, so where do you stand?
1168
01:05:11,718 --> 01:05:16,266
Well you gotta admit,
it's pretty hard to believe.
1169
01:05:16,268 --> 01:05:19,016
I know, I'm pretty used
to people looking at me
1170
01:05:19,018 --> 01:05:20,906
like I'm a total crazy person.
1171
01:05:20,908 --> 01:05:24,491
Well maybe I am
attracted to crazy women?
1172
01:05:36,148 --> 01:05:39,364
And who are you Robert Trainer?
1173
01:05:39,366 --> 01:05:44,351
Uh, I come from a very poor family.
1174
01:05:44,353 --> 01:05:47,226
I lost my father when I was a boy.
1175
01:05:47,228 --> 01:05:49,376
Moved with my mom and sister to Chicago
1176
01:05:49,378 --> 01:05:50,746
after I graduated high school.
1177
01:05:50,748 --> 01:05:53,306
Went to Chicago State
University, graduated
1178
01:05:53,308 --> 01:05:56,235
and now I'm an intern in the city.
1179
01:05:56,237 --> 01:05:58,685
My favorite color is purple,
1180
01:05:58,687 --> 01:06:02,795
pizza is my comfort food and
I love Swiss almond ice cream.
1181
01:06:02,797 --> 01:06:06,017
And I have a bad habit of
picking my nose, at stop signs.
1182
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:11,800
Too much?
1183
01:06:13,627 --> 01:06:14,458
Yeah.
1184
01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:18,465
Seriously, I'm a nobody right now,
1185
01:06:18,467 --> 01:06:23,100
hoping that someday I'll be a somebody.
1186
01:06:24,017 --> 01:06:26,120
Just like Betsy Simmons did in the book.
1187
01:06:28,696 --> 01:06:30,605
Are you sure you read it?
1188
01:06:30,607 --> 01:06:31,440
Yes.
1189
01:06:32,737 --> 01:06:33,570
Why?
1190
01:06:35,607 --> 01:06:38,257
I don't know if you wanna
be that kind of somebody.
1191
01:06:39,647 --> 01:06:42,845
She was on Christian talk show recently,
1192
01:06:42,847 --> 01:06:44,699
and they believed her.
1193
01:06:44,701 --> 01:06:45,544
Well, that's not surprising.
1194
01:06:45,546 --> 01:06:47,324
She's pretty convincing.
1195
01:06:47,326 --> 01:06:50,064
Either she's one of the
best manipulators I've seen
1196
01:06:50,066 --> 01:06:54,443
in a long time or she really
believes what she says.
1197
01:06:54,445 --> 01:06:57,359
So now she's playing
to the Christian market.
1198
01:06:58,606 --> 01:07:01,744
Smart move, God bless her.
1199
01:07:01,746 --> 01:07:05,120
I know, but I was just thinking about
1200
01:07:05,122 --> 01:07:09,444
the Dr. Hager interview we
did, the plastic surgeon.
1201
01:07:09,446 --> 01:07:10,614
Oh, the guy from Indonesia.
1202
01:07:10,616 --> 01:07:12,044
Didn't even have his license,
1203
01:07:12,046 --> 01:07:13,774
performed all those surgeries.
1204
01:07:13,776 --> 01:07:15,874
Yeah, that was like 60 minute stuff.
1205
01:07:15,876 --> 01:07:17,434
Our highest rated show.
1206
01:07:17,436 --> 01:07:19,264
No doubt.
1207
01:07:19,266 --> 01:07:20,099
Don't do that.
1208
01:07:21,110 --> 01:07:22,504
I'm sorry.
1209
01:07:22,506 --> 01:07:24,459
How is this even close?
1210
01:07:26,646 --> 01:07:29,144
Maybe we can make it sound that way?
1211
01:07:29,146 --> 01:07:31,674
Like she's fooling Christians.
1212
01:07:31,676 --> 01:07:34,823
Using their faith to sell books.
1213
01:07:34,825 --> 01:07:36,313
That won't be hard,
1214
01:07:36,315 --> 01:07:40,948
especially if you can get
her to break down on camera.
1215
01:07:47,345 --> 01:07:49,313
Okay, let's do it.
1216
01:07:49,315 --> 01:07:50,668
Give me a copy of her book.
1217
01:07:53,925 --> 01:07:55,103
You're good.
1218
01:07:55,105 --> 01:07:55,968
I know.
1219
01:07:58,525 --> 01:08:02,173
But there is one problem, though.
1220
01:08:02,175 --> 01:08:04,433
Her agent told us she said no.
1221
01:08:04,435 --> 01:08:08,115
Quote "I'm not stepping
one foot on that set."
1222
01:08:08,117 --> 01:08:10,873
Patty, what are we doing here?
1223
01:08:10,875 --> 01:08:12,213
What if we told her
1224
01:08:12,215 --> 01:08:15,378
we'll do the interview wherever she wants.
1225
01:08:15,380 --> 01:08:16,453
Where?
1226
01:08:16,455 --> 01:08:19,173
The Church she goes to is very old
1227
01:08:19,175 --> 01:08:22,302
and they're trying to
raise money for repairs
1228
01:08:22,304 --> 01:08:23,277
to keep it open.
1229
01:08:24,294 --> 01:08:27,402
What if we offer to
make a sizeable donation
1230
01:08:27,404 --> 01:08:30,207
in exchange for doing the interview there?
1231
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:33,222
That could be fine.
1232
01:08:33,224 --> 01:08:34,874
PATTY: I'll contact her agent.
1233
01:08:36,654 --> 01:08:38,889
Like you said, we're
still gonna need something
1234
01:08:38,891 --> 01:08:41,191
that'll make her lose
it during the interview.
1235
01:08:42,594 --> 01:08:44,847
You have something, don't you?
1236
01:08:47,595 --> 01:08:48,512
Yes I do.
1237
01:08:55,491 --> 01:08:58,492
Do you know who Tamdon Dackery is?
1238
01:08:58,494 --> 01:09:02,292
I do, I am not fond of him, but I do.
1239
01:09:02,294 --> 01:09:04,192
He wants me on his show,
1240
01:09:04,194 --> 01:09:06,192
but I've seen what he does to his guests
1241
01:09:06,194 --> 01:09:08,201
so I told him no.
1242
01:09:08,203 --> 01:09:09,701
Good, you don't need him.
1243
01:09:09,703 --> 01:09:10,536
I know.
1244
01:09:13,773 --> 01:09:15,876
But I was thinking maybe the Church does.
1245
01:09:16,796 --> 01:09:17,627
How's that?
1246
01:09:17,629 --> 01:09:19,821
Ann called me yesterday.
1247
01:09:19,823 --> 01:09:22,871
She says he wants to donate
to the Church's fundraiser
1248
01:09:22,873 --> 01:09:25,421
in exchange for an interview with me.
1249
01:09:25,423 --> 01:09:26,254
Really?
1250
01:09:26,256 --> 01:09:29,371
A very generous donation.
1251
01:09:29,373 --> 01:09:30,204
Uh huh.
1252
01:09:30,206 --> 01:09:32,911
But I already refused to do
an interview at his studio,
1253
01:09:32,913 --> 01:09:36,512
so he said he'd go anywhere that I wanted.
1254
01:09:36,514 --> 01:09:38,101
Why would that go to that extreme?
1255
01:09:38,103 --> 01:09:39,557
I don't know, for ratings?
1256
01:09:39,559 --> 01:09:43,141
Because he thinks I'm crazy
and wants to embarrass me?
1257
01:09:43,143 --> 01:09:44,796
That's just what he does.
1258
01:09:46,243 --> 01:09:51,243
But I was thinking, maybe
we could do it here?
1259
01:09:52,393 --> 01:09:53,651
Oh Betsy.
1260
01:09:53,653 --> 01:09:55,161
I know that the Church needs the money
1261
01:09:55,163 --> 01:09:57,750
and I really don't mind taking
a little verbal beating
1262
01:09:57,752 --> 01:10:00,860
and embarrassment, especially
if it will do some good.
1263
01:10:00,862 --> 01:10:03,220
And I bet your agents all
about it for the exposure right?
1264
01:10:03,222 --> 01:10:04,890
But that's not why I'm willing to do it.
1265
01:10:04,892 --> 01:10:06,385
What if this is God's will?
1266
01:10:07,922 --> 01:10:10,000
Maybe all of this is falling into place
1267
01:10:10,002 --> 01:10:11,835
because he wants me to do this.
1268
01:10:14,058 --> 01:10:16,500
And the exposure will be great
for the Church's fundraiser.
1269
01:10:16,502 --> 01:10:18,590
That would depend on Tandom Dackery,
1270
01:10:18,592 --> 01:10:20,100
he can not only make you look foolish
1271
01:10:20,102 --> 01:10:24,020
for what you said about the
book, he can ruin your career.
1272
01:10:24,022 --> 01:10:25,985
That is also something he does.
1273
01:10:27,512 --> 01:10:28,500
I know.
1274
01:10:28,502 --> 01:10:31,230
Plus the Elders would never
approve doing it for the money
1275
01:10:31,232 --> 01:10:33,780
and I would have to agree with them.
1276
01:10:33,782 --> 01:10:35,060
Well, why not?
1277
01:10:35,062 --> 01:10:37,510
To do so, would be to sell out.
1278
01:10:37,512 --> 01:10:39,140
It would dishonor God.
1279
01:10:39,142 --> 01:10:41,642
No, it would have to
be for another reason.
1280
01:10:41,644 --> 01:10:44,139
A matter of faith for example.
1281
01:10:44,141 --> 01:10:46,679
It is wonderful that you would consider
1282
01:10:46,681 --> 01:10:50,369
risking your career for the
Church, it means the world.
1283
01:10:50,371 --> 01:10:53,279
And it shows that even
with all your success,
1284
01:10:53,281 --> 01:10:56,139
it hasn't changed who
you are in this world,
1285
01:10:56,141 --> 01:10:57,951
like it did in the other one.
1286
01:10:59,151 --> 01:11:00,289
Wait, what?
1287
01:11:00,291 --> 01:11:01,399
So you believe me?
1288
01:11:01,401 --> 01:11:02,234
No.
1289
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:06,110
(CHEERFUL MUSIC)
1290
01:11:07,670 --> 01:11:08,503
Again?
1291
01:11:29,671 --> 01:11:30,844
TANDOM: Pastor John?
1292
01:11:34,124 --> 01:11:34,957
Tandom Dackery.
1293
01:11:42,450 --> 01:11:43,703
Sorry for the intrusion.
1294
01:11:45,490 --> 01:11:47,148
What a surprise.
1295
01:11:47,150 --> 01:11:48,213
I'll bet.
1296
01:11:49,790 --> 01:11:52,658
So I heard you turned
down Betsy's proposal.
1297
01:11:52,660 --> 01:11:54,808
It wasn't just my decision.
1298
01:11:54,810 --> 01:11:55,707
Of course.
1299
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,373
Actually, that's why I'm here.
1300
01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:01,818
I just wanted to tell you in person
1301
01:12:01,820 --> 01:12:03,623
how much I admire that decision.
1302
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:09,032
Even in light of the Church's
need for financial support
1303
01:12:09,034 --> 01:12:12,233
that they would turn
such a generous donation,
1304
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,960
really is a story within itself.
1305
01:12:15,962 --> 01:12:18,443
A story for another show, not yours.
1306
01:12:20,279 --> 01:12:22,772
I do have a reputation, I know.
1307
01:12:26,179 --> 01:12:27,272
Beautiful Church.
1308
01:12:28,785 --> 01:12:29,685
When was it built?
1309
01:12:30,569 --> 01:12:32,747
1874.
1310
01:12:32,749 --> 01:12:33,582
Really?
1311
01:12:36,541 --> 01:12:38,197
And the bell in the
steeple, does it still ring?
1312
01:12:38,199 --> 01:12:39,030
Yes.
1313
01:12:39,032 --> 01:12:39,872
Fantastic.
1314
01:12:41,101 --> 01:12:44,322
It would be a shame to
have to close the doors.
1315
01:12:45,649 --> 01:12:47,087
How's the fundraiser going?
1316
01:12:47,089 --> 01:12:48,487
Okay.
1317
01:12:48,489 --> 01:12:51,987
We are hopeful that God
will hear our prayers
1318
01:12:51,989 --> 01:12:53,497
and provide what we need.
1319
01:12:53,499 --> 01:12:54,652
Or maybe he won't.
1320
01:12:56,739 --> 01:12:58,352
Like in Betsy Simon's book.
1321
01:13:00,009 --> 01:13:02,167
- Huh.
- You know on the other hand,
1322
01:13:02,169 --> 01:13:05,502
with her track record, maybe
she should do all the prayers.
1323
01:13:08,868 --> 01:13:10,826
Anyway I'm sure you're a busy man.
1324
01:13:10,828 --> 01:13:12,556
I know I am.
1325
01:13:12,558 --> 01:13:14,315
Again, I just wanted to stop by
1326
01:13:14,317 --> 01:13:19,256
and let you know that I
really respect the decision
1327
01:13:19,258 --> 01:13:21,991
not to let Betsy Simon use the Church.
1328
01:13:22,978 --> 01:13:26,136
You know, it's pretty obvious
1329
01:13:26,138 --> 01:13:29,341
that she's not mentally stable.
1330
01:13:30,226 --> 01:13:32,266
And an interview like this
1331
01:13:32,268 --> 01:13:34,701
could be embarrassing
for everyone involved.
1332
01:13:37,178 --> 01:13:40,566
The truth is Mr. Dackery,
that you have little, if any,
1333
01:13:40,568 --> 01:13:43,181
respect for anyone you
interview on your show.
1334
01:13:44,348 --> 01:13:45,491
That's my job.
1335
01:13:47,178 --> 01:13:50,116
And it's your job not to support
someone like Betsy Simon,
1336
01:13:50,118 --> 01:13:52,241
whose motivations are clearly not,
1337
01:13:53,338 --> 01:13:56,950
for lack of a better phrase, faith based.
1338
01:13:59,247 --> 01:14:00,664
Have a good day Pastor.
1339
01:14:10,074 --> 01:14:15,035
Oh and Pastor, if she doesn't
wanna defend herself here.
1340
01:14:15,037 --> 01:14:18,250
I'll just go on the air and
rip her to shreds there.
1341
01:14:20,113 --> 01:14:23,113
(SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC)
1342
01:14:31,951 --> 01:14:35,315
(DOORBELL BUZZES)
1343
01:14:35,317 --> 01:14:38,035
Pastor John, what a surprise.
1344
01:14:38,037 --> 01:14:38,868
I'm sorry.
1345
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:40,603
I hope it's okay to show up unannounced.
1346
01:14:40,605 --> 01:14:41,892
You know what, I should have called...
1347
01:14:41,894 --> 01:14:43,544
No, it's fine.
1348
01:14:43,546 --> 01:14:45,207
Hey come on in.
1349
01:14:45,209 --> 01:14:46,095
Are you sure?
1350
01:14:46,097 --> 01:14:46,930
Yeah.
1351
01:14:49,394 --> 01:14:51,634
(LAUGHS)
1352
01:14:51,636 --> 01:14:53,584
Uh, I need to tell you something.
1353
01:14:53,586 --> 01:14:55,934
Um, how do I do it?
1354
01:14:55,936 --> 01:15:00,454
Okay, you know what, remember
in Rocky Two, the movie,
1355
01:15:00,456 --> 01:15:02,364
when Mickey his manager,
1356
01:15:02,366 --> 01:15:04,104
shows up unexpectedly at Rocky's house
1357
01:15:04,106 --> 01:15:06,064
because he has just heard Apollo Creed
1358
01:15:06,066 --> 01:15:08,024
shoot his mouth off on television
1359
01:15:08,026 --> 01:15:10,826
and now he tells him that he
should knock his block off.
1360
01:15:13,703 --> 01:15:15,669
I never saw Rocky Two.
1361
01:15:17,841 --> 01:15:19,749
Oh, uh.
1362
01:15:21,366 --> 01:15:24,424
Oh, well there goes that analogy.
1363
01:15:24,426 --> 01:15:25,754
Well then, I'm just gonna say it.
1364
01:15:25,756 --> 01:15:30,756
I had a visit from Mr. Dackery,
the other day at the Church.
1365
01:15:32,386 --> 01:15:33,217
He came to the Church?
1366
01:15:33,219 --> 01:15:35,413
Yes, and he lived up to his reputation
1367
01:15:35,415 --> 01:15:40,081
as being just a, well
just a real piece of,
1368
01:15:40,083 --> 01:15:43,242
well just a, just a real piece of...
1369
01:15:44,215 --> 01:15:45,048
Work.
1370
01:15:46,555 --> 01:15:49,748
Okay, yeah that's better
than where I was going.
1371
01:15:50,785 --> 01:15:54,188
The Elders, they have now
approved the interview.
1372
01:15:57,018 --> 01:15:59,043
- They did?
- They did.
1373
01:15:59,045 --> 01:16:00,093
I don't understand.
1374
01:16:00,095 --> 01:16:03,203
Well after my meeting with Mr. Dackery,
1375
01:16:03,205 --> 01:16:05,853
I was inspired, let's say,
1376
01:16:05,855 --> 01:16:08,173
to go back to the Elders
with a new proposal.
1377
01:16:08,175 --> 01:16:11,703
They have approved the
use of the Church for you.
1378
01:16:11,705 --> 01:16:12,538
Really?
1379
01:16:13,420 --> 01:16:15,193
- Yes.
- Why?
1380
01:16:15,195 --> 01:16:18,633
Betsy, you are willing
to risk your career
1381
01:16:18,635 --> 01:16:20,572
and make of fool of yourself
1382
01:16:20,574 --> 01:16:23,662
all to represent our Heavenly Father.
1383
01:16:23,664 --> 01:16:27,412
That my dear, is a matter of faith.
1384
01:16:27,414 --> 01:16:28,552
There are some conditions though.
1385
01:16:28,554 --> 01:16:29,642
The biggest one being,
1386
01:16:29,644 --> 01:16:31,402
they have got to give you a complete list
1387
01:16:31,404 --> 01:16:33,032
of all the questions they're gonna ask you
1388
01:16:33,034 --> 01:16:35,112
for your approval.
1389
01:16:35,114 --> 01:16:37,762
So we can somehow minimize
the chance of embarrassment.
1390
01:16:37,764 --> 01:16:40,492
- Yeah, I like that.
- Me too.
1391
01:16:40,494 --> 01:16:43,162
Any advice on how I
should prepare for this?
1392
01:16:43,164 --> 01:16:45,522
Well I would watch a Rocky movie
1393
01:16:45,524 --> 01:16:49,282
and lots and lots of prayer.
1394
01:16:49,284 --> 01:16:51,304
Which, you know, I read your book,
1395
01:16:51,306 --> 01:16:53,869
so I know you're a bit of an expert there.
1396
01:16:53,871 --> 01:16:56,621
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1397
01:16:59,804 --> 01:17:01,454
That's all for today everybody.
1398
01:17:06,627 --> 01:17:09,545
(CLEARS THROAT) Mr. Dackery, excuse me.
1399
01:17:09,547 --> 01:17:11,195
Yes.
1400
01:17:11,197 --> 01:17:12,932
- Robert.
- Robert.
1401
01:17:12,934 --> 01:17:16,939
There's a question here
that has to do with something
1402
01:17:16,941 --> 01:17:20,610
she told me in private and...
1403
01:17:20,612 --> 01:17:23,171
Ah, the element of surprise
1404
01:17:23,173 --> 01:17:26,141
is the key to a good interview Richard.
1405
01:17:26,143 --> 01:17:27,921
- Robert.
- Robert.
1406
01:17:27,923 --> 01:17:32,923
Unexpected responses, emotions,
drama, all good stuff.
1407
01:17:34,623 --> 01:17:36,721
You're an intern, you'll learn.
1408
01:17:36,723 --> 01:17:40,421
I'm sure, but in hindsight
1409
01:17:40,423 --> 01:17:42,694
it was something she told me in private...
1410
01:17:42,696 --> 01:17:44,956
Then you should have kept it in private.
1411
01:17:51,773 --> 01:17:55,003
Though I do admire your sense
of fairness, just the same.
1412
01:18:09,782 --> 01:18:10,615
Tom.
1413
01:18:13,922 --> 01:18:15,380
He's done.
1414
01:18:15,382 --> 01:18:16,215
Got it.
1415
01:18:19,332 --> 01:18:21,363
Can you send for another one?
1416
01:18:21,365 --> 01:18:24,115
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1417
01:18:30,622 --> 01:18:31,916
BETSY: Hi.
1418
01:18:31,918 --> 01:18:33,355
Hi.
1419
01:18:44,281 --> 01:18:45,114
What?
1420
01:18:49,191 --> 01:18:51,394
There's something that
I think you should know.
1421
01:18:52,821 --> 01:18:55,319
Remember when I told you I was an intern?
1422
01:18:55,321 --> 01:18:56,359
Yeah.
1423
01:18:56,361 --> 01:18:59,841
Well, I'm an intern at
1424
01:19:01,131 --> 01:19:04,081
Tandom Dackery's production company.
1425
01:19:05,001 --> 01:19:07,918
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1426
01:19:14,144 --> 01:19:15,499
Really?
1427
01:19:15,501 --> 01:19:16,334
Yeah.
1428
01:19:18,121 --> 01:19:20,694
So you know about the
interview at the Church.
1429
01:19:20,696 --> 01:19:21,946
ROBERT: Yes.
1430
01:19:23,261 --> 01:19:26,819
Okay, so you work for an egotistical,
1431
01:19:26,821 --> 01:19:28,871
self-serving, hypocritical media vampire.
1432
01:19:29,881 --> 01:19:30,714
Yeah, yeah.
1433
01:19:31,910 --> 01:19:34,509
But not for him directly.
1434
01:19:34,511 --> 01:19:35,748
So you'll be coming to the interview.
1435
01:19:35,750 --> 01:19:36,583
I'd like to.
1436
01:19:40,294 --> 01:19:41,127
Great.
1437
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:47,673
Look it's okay.
1438
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,908
Alright, I'm not gonna
hold it against you.
1439
01:19:50,910 --> 01:19:52,608
He is who he is.
1440
01:19:52,610 --> 01:19:55,358
I gotta go, I came by just
to stop and get some coffee
1441
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:56,208
on my way home.
1442
01:19:56,210 --> 01:19:57,868
I gotta prepare for the interview
1443
01:19:57,870 --> 01:20:01,268
and go over all the questions
that he's gonna ask me.
1444
01:20:01,270 --> 01:20:02,103
Betsy.
1445
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:06,538
What?
1446
01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:08,630
I'll see you at the interview.
1447
01:20:10,064 --> 01:20:11,246
_ Okay.
1448
01:20:11,248 --> 01:20:14,165
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1449
01:21:07,944 --> 01:21:12,944
Are you okay?
1450
01:21:13,501 --> 01:21:15,791
Are you comfortable with the questions?
1451
01:21:17,678 --> 01:21:19,931
Yeah, I'm good.
1452
01:21:22,058 --> 01:21:26,871
Good, well then, I
will see you afterwards.
1453
01:21:43,028 --> 01:21:45,846
Ladies and gentleman, can
I get your attention please.
1454
01:21:45,848 --> 01:21:47,916
We are moments away from
starting the interview,
1455
01:21:47,918 --> 01:21:49,766
I know we have several Tandom Dackery fans
1456
01:21:49,768 --> 01:21:50,703
in the house today.
1457
01:21:50,705 --> 01:21:53,525
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1458
01:21:53,527 --> 01:21:54,358
And of course I know
1459
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,406
we have some fans of
Heavens to Betsy, the book.
1460
01:21:56,408 --> 01:22:00,865
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) I would
just like to remind all of you
1461
01:22:00,867 --> 01:22:02,775
to please be respectful
throughout the interview
1462
01:22:02,777 --> 01:22:05,227
and let everyone up here
do what they need to do.
1463
01:22:06,877 --> 01:22:08,781
There's a scene in the first Rocky.
1464
01:22:08,783 --> 01:22:11,785
It's the night of the big
fight against Apollo Creed,
1465
01:22:11,787 --> 01:22:13,873
and Rocky he's ready to
fight, but he's worried.
1466
01:22:13,875 --> 01:22:17,185
So he tells Adrian, that's his girlfriend
1467
01:22:17,187 --> 01:22:19,945
that it doesn't matter
if he wins the fight,
1468
01:22:19,947 --> 01:22:23,035
as long as he goes the distance.
1469
01:22:23,037 --> 01:22:25,375
Because then and only then,
1470
01:22:25,377 --> 01:22:28,227
he'll know he's not just
another bum in the neighborhood.
1471
01:22:29,527 --> 01:22:32,360
(UPLIFTING MUSIC)
1472
01:22:33,807 --> 01:22:36,370
Okay, have you not seen any Rocky films?
1473
01:22:37,698 --> 01:22:39,578
I don't know what any of that means.
1474
01:22:39,580 --> 01:22:42,995
What it means is that you're like Rocky.
1475
01:22:42,997 --> 01:22:45,104
You are not in this for
the fame and fortune,
1476
01:22:45,106 --> 01:22:48,044
you're doing it for something
that's important to you.
1477
01:22:48,046 --> 01:22:50,509
And in this case, it's
defending the truth.
1478
01:22:51,636 --> 01:22:52,469
Let's pray.
1479
01:22:53,766 --> 01:22:55,044
Heavenly Father.
1480
01:22:55,046 --> 01:22:57,414
We ask that You oversee
the upcoming interview
1481
01:22:57,416 --> 01:22:59,324
and that You will help
Betsy find the right words
1482
01:22:59,326 --> 01:23:02,674
to express herself, keeping to Your word.
1483
01:23:02,676 --> 01:23:05,044
We thank you Father for
answering Betsy's prayers
1484
01:23:05,046 --> 01:23:08,575
and giving her the opportunity
for continued success
1485
01:23:08,577 --> 01:23:09,410
in Your name.
1486
01:23:10,511 --> 01:23:11,344
Amen.
1487
01:23:13,356 --> 01:23:14,506
Okay, what about Creed?
1488
01:23:16,038 --> 01:23:16,869
No, no, that's one
1489
01:23:16,871 --> 01:23:18,834
where he actually has
to train Apollo's kid.
1490
01:23:18,836 --> 01:23:20,289
Everyone has seen Creed.
1491
01:23:21,781 --> 01:23:24,531
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1492
01:23:26,500 --> 01:23:28,881
(PEOPLE CHATTERING)
1493
01:23:28,883 --> 01:23:31,348
RONNIE: Betsy's a good friend of mine.
1494
01:23:34,752 --> 01:23:36,093
Oh.
1495
01:23:36,095 --> 01:23:36,928
Ronnie Love.
1496
01:23:39,585 --> 01:23:41,393
Uh, sorry?
1497
01:23:41,395 --> 01:23:44,193
My stage name, maybe you've heard of me.
1498
01:23:44,195 --> 01:23:46,118
Oh no, sorry.
1499
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,883
You will someday, I'm an actress.
1500
01:23:49,885 --> 01:23:54,885
I'm used to all of this,
the cameras, the lights.
1501
01:23:55,065 --> 01:23:57,283
When I heard she was going to do this,
1502
01:23:57,285 --> 01:23:59,733
I thought I'd come just in case she needed
1503
01:23:59,735 --> 01:24:03,663
some professional advice
about how to deal with it.
1504
01:24:03,665 --> 01:24:07,048
You sound like an amazing friend.
1505
01:24:08,385 --> 01:24:10,313
She's lucky to have you.
1506
01:24:10,315 --> 01:24:11,228
I know right.
1507
01:24:24,311 --> 01:24:26,367
Tandom Dackery, the host.
1508
01:24:31,754 --> 01:24:34,925
Betsy Simon, the crazy Christian.
1509
01:24:34,927 --> 01:24:37,010
(LAUGHS)
1510
01:24:38,284 --> 01:24:39,502
Sorry we didn't get a chance to meet
1511
01:24:39,504 --> 01:24:41,132
prior to the interview,
1512
01:24:41,134 --> 01:24:42,807
that would have been the proper thing.
1513
01:24:43,784 --> 01:24:45,354
Yes it would have.
1514
01:24:56,384 --> 01:24:57,482
Ladies and gentleman.
1515
01:24:57,484 --> 01:24:59,262
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
1516
01:24:59,264 --> 01:25:00,832
We are rolling.
1517
01:25:00,834 --> 01:25:01,665
Speed.
1518
01:25:01,667 --> 01:25:03,377
In three, two.
1519
01:25:05,674 --> 01:25:07,311
Shortly after its release,
1520
01:25:07,313 --> 01:25:11,221
Betsy Simon's book Heavens to
Betsy hit the best seller list
1521
01:25:11,223 --> 01:25:13,516
and stayed there for the last six months.
1522
01:25:14,443 --> 01:25:15,521
The book tells the story
1523
01:25:15,523 --> 01:25:18,611
of an aspiring children's
book author who's prayer
1524
01:25:18,613 --> 01:25:23,601
for fame and fortune is
answered by God himself.
1525
01:25:23,603 --> 01:25:26,951
Transporting her to an alternate universe
1526
01:25:26,953 --> 01:25:29,591
where not only does she
get the fame and fortune,
1527
01:25:29,593 --> 01:25:32,726
but everything she has ever prayed for.
1528
01:25:33,973 --> 01:25:36,621
The book has been called
a modern day Wizard of Oz
1529
01:25:36,623 --> 01:25:38,601
or Alice in Wonderland.
1530
01:25:38,603 --> 01:25:40,661
David Claymore of the Chicago Press
1531
01:25:40,663 --> 01:25:45,031
has called it entertaining,
heartwarming and magical.
1532
01:25:45,033 --> 01:25:48,361
But as of late the book has
got even more attention.
1533
01:25:48,363 --> 01:25:50,971
Because the author claims
1534
01:25:50,973 --> 01:25:55,595
that the story in the book
is not fiction, but fact.
1535
01:25:57,562 --> 01:25:59,410
Hello Betsy Simon.
1536
01:25:59,412 --> 01:26:00,960
Hello.
1537
01:26:00,962 --> 01:26:03,150
So I read Heavens to Betsy
1538
01:26:03,152 --> 01:26:05,505
and I thought it was delightful.
1539
01:26:07,642 --> 01:26:09,212
Thank you.
1540
01:26:09,214 --> 01:26:10,964
When did you start writing books?
1541
01:26:12,152 --> 01:26:15,810
Well, I wrote a short
story in high school
1542
01:26:15,812 --> 01:26:20,355
that won an award, and I
just kept writing after that.
1543
01:26:21,892 --> 01:26:25,190
You have a mother and a
sister, who are both deceased,
1544
01:26:25,192 --> 01:26:27,305
and your father lives in Arizona.
1545
01:26:30,422 --> 01:26:32,320
I see you've done your homework.
1546
01:26:32,322 --> 01:26:35,050
Yes, that's all correct.
1547
01:26:35,052 --> 01:26:37,831
This is not you first
novel, is that correct?
1548
01:26:37,833 --> 01:26:39,840
I've written four children's books
1549
01:26:39,842 --> 01:26:42,460
that have featured my cat Wishes.
1550
01:26:42,462 --> 01:26:44,481
Well that seems obvious,
1551
01:26:44,483 --> 01:26:46,729
seeing as how the character
in your book Betsy Simmons
1552
01:26:46,731 --> 01:26:49,854
has a cat named Wishes and
writes children's books.
1553
01:26:50,801 --> 01:26:52,519
Right, yeah I didn't change her name,
1554
01:26:52,521 --> 01:26:54,330
she wouldn't have liked that.
1555
01:26:54,332 --> 01:26:55,859
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1556
01:26:55,861 --> 01:26:57,261
So when the book came out,
1557
01:26:58,231 --> 01:27:01,254
your agent promoted it
as a work of fiction.
1558
01:27:02,921 --> 01:27:03,754
BETSY: Yes.
1559
01:27:04,761 --> 01:27:07,141
And now you've said, in many interviews
1560
01:27:07,981 --> 01:27:10,979
that it's not fiction, is that correct?
1561
01:27:10,981 --> 01:27:12,169
Yes.
1562
01:27:12,171 --> 01:27:16,424
If that's so, then Betsy
Simmons who is obviously you,
1563
01:27:17,771 --> 01:27:20,591
has been transported to
an alternate universe
1564
01:27:21,461 --> 01:27:23,534
by a cosmic entity.
1565
01:27:24,971 --> 01:27:27,705
It's safe to say God in here.
1566
01:27:27,707 --> 01:27:31,079
No need for political
correctness Mr. Dackery.
1567
01:27:31,081 --> 01:27:34,257
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1568
01:27:34,259 --> 01:27:36,078
And what was that like?
1569
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:37,688
What?
1570
01:27:37,690 --> 01:27:39,840
TANDOM: Living in
an alternate universe?
1571
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:46,308
It was confusing at first.
1572
01:27:46,310 --> 01:27:47,748
Confusing.
1573
01:27:47,750 --> 01:27:48,646
No doubt.
1574
01:27:48,648 --> 01:27:51,378
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1575
01:27:51,380 --> 01:27:54,018
It was like I was in
an alternate timeline,
1576
01:27:54,020 --> 01:27:55,403
like Back to the Future.
1577
01:27:57,056 --> 01:27:59,205
If you have God, who needs a DeLorean?
1578
01:27:59,207 --> 01:28:00,358
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1579
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:01,288
Miss Simon.
1580
01:28:01,290 --> 01:28:04,258
Betsy, please just Betsy.
1581
01:28:04,260 --> 01:28:05,093
Betsy.
1582
01:28:06,740 --> 01:28:09,163
Are you now or have you
ever been in therapy?
1583
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:11,793
No.
1584
01:28:12,970 --> 01:28:14,876
Why, do you need a referral?
1585
01:28:14,878 --> 01:28:17,878
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1586
01:28:20,159 --> 01:28:20,992
I'm sorry.
1587
01:28:23,249 --> 01:28:25,652
I can understand how some people,
1588
01:28:26,929 --> 01:28:29,427
might think that I was crazy.
1589
01:28:29,429 --> 01:28:33,847
But there are others who don't.
1590
01:28:33,849 --> 01:28:35,502
Christians, to be exact.
1591
01:28:36,904 --> 01:28:38,367
You know, ever since the reveal,
1592
01:28:38,369 --> 01:28:41,307
your book has done quite
well in that market.
1593
01:28:41,309 --> 01:28:43,677
Why do you think that is?
1594
01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:47,369
Because of people of
faith know that through God
1595
01:28:48,579 --> 01:28:50,244
all things are possible.
1596
01:28:50,246 --> 01:28:54,077
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1597
01:28:54,079 --> 01:28:59,079
Isn't it unethical to exploit
religion for financial gain?
1598
01:28:59,937 --> 01:29:03,747
(LAUGHS) Unethical?
1599
01:29:03,749 --> 01:29:05,087
Exploitation?
1600
01:29:05,089 --> 01:29:08,263
Wow, did you of all people just say that.
1601
01:29:08,265 --> 01:29:11,432
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1602
01:29:13,180 --> 01:29:16,763
You wrote in your
book that at one point,
1603
01:29:18,168 --> 01:29:21,001
you asked God to put you
back to your original life.
1604
01:29:22,158 --> 01:29:26,116
If I didn't, I wouldn't
be here right now.
1605
01:29:26,118 --> 01:29:27,566
Hmm-mm.
1606
01:29:27,568 --> 01:29:32,568
And by doing so, you killed
your sister didn't you?
1607
01:29:33,766 --> 01:29:36,766
(AUDIENCE GROANING)
1608
01:29:48,775 --> 01:29:50,206
Did it not that bother you
1609
01:29:50,208 --> 01:29:54,056
that asking God to put you
back to the way things were
1610
01:29:54,058 --> 01:29:57,215
would essentially be killing
your sister for a second time?
1611
01:29:57,217 --> 01:30:01,605
And that by asking God to do
that, you would responsible?
1612
01:30:01,607 --> 01:30:06,020
You wrote in your book,
that after much prayer,
1613
01:30:06,987 --> 01:30:10,425
your sister died while
you were in your teens.
1614
01:30:10,427 --> 01:30:13,365
And then when he answered your prayer,
1615
01:30:13,367 --> 01:30:17,210
put you into this alternate
universe, he brought her back.
1616
01:30:24,747 --> 01:30:26,675
But that didn't go very well,
1617
01:30:26,677 --> 01:30:29,345
once you found out she'd been stealing
1618
01:30:29,347 --> 01:30:31,815
from you and your husband's company.
1619
01:30:31,817 --> 01:30:34,695
At least I know what I did.
1620
01:30:34,697 --> 01:30:36,235
I think you'll never forgive me.
1621
01:30:36,237 --> 01:30:38,726
I also know what you
guys are going to do,
1622
01:30:38,728 --> 01:30:40,325
so just do it!
1623
01:30:40,327 --> 01:30:42,714
So if the book is fact,
1624
01:30:42,716 --> 01:30:45,786
then you, more or less,
were playing Judge and Jury
1625
01:30:46,726 --> 01:30:50,664
in asking God to put things
back the way they were.
1626
01:30:50,666 --> 01:30:55,049
Therefore handing your
sister a death sentence.
1627
01:30:57,446 --> 01:30:58,339
Really?
1628
01:30:59,247 --> 01:31:02,849
You see, I think that's
the flaw in your story.
1629
01:31:04,096 --> 01:31:06,044
Nobody would honestly do something
1630
01:31:06,046 --> 01:31:07,584
that would kill somebody they loved
1631
01:31:07,586 --> 01:31:11,294
as much as you apparently
love your sister,
1632
01:31:11,296 --> 01:31:13,279
all for the sake of religion.
1633
01:31:14,396 --> 01:31:19,396
In 2006, Oprah Winfrey rebuked James Frey,
1634
01:31:20,096 --> 01:31:22,644
author of A Million Little Pieces
1635
01:31:22,646 --> 01:31:25,444
for lying about his past,
and portraying his book
1636
01:31:25,446 --> 01:31:27,944
as a truthful account of his life.
1637
01:31:27,946 --> 01:31:31,113
In her words, betraying
millions of readers.
1638
01:31:31,115 --> 01:31:32,993
Isn't that what you're doing here?
1639
01:31:32,995 --> 01:31:35,345
Look, I know these are
different circumstances,
1640
01:31:37,855 --> 01:31:40,902
but tell me, why should we believe you?
1641
01:31:47,943 --> 01:31:48,860
Miss Simon.
1642
01:31:51,735 --> 01:31:56,735
Why would God allow your sister
to die not once, but twice.
1643
01:31:59,774 --> 01:32:02,691
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1644
01:32:19,724 --> 01:32:22,324
BETSY'S DAD: Peanuts,
he's in a better place now.
1645
01:32:24,424 --> 01:32:25,922
I know papa.
1646
01:32:25,924 --> 01:32:27,352
BETSY'S DAD: You'll see him again.
1647
01:32:27,354 --> 01:32:29,442
Not too soon I hope.
1648
01:32:29,444 --> 01:32:32,607
Sally, your sister's very upset.
1649
01:32:35,224 --> 01:32:36,322
Okay.
1650
01:32:36,324 --> 01:32:38,642
Betsy would you like to say a prayer?
1651
01:32:38,644 --> 01:32:39,477
I don't know.
1652
01:32:41,744 --> 01:32:42,872
How about you Sally?
1653
01:32:42,874 --> 01:32:44,749
Not really, he's just a...
1654
01:32:44,751 --> 01:32:46,547
Peanut is not just cat.
1655
01:32:52,344 --> 01:32:54,742
Can I say it to myself papa?
1656
01:32:54,744 --> 01:32:56,044
Of course you can honey.
1657
01:32:58,354 --> 01:33:01,232
We don't need to hear it, nobody does.
1658
01:33:01,234 --> 01:33:03,274
It will just be between you and God.
1659
01:33:05,475 --> 01:33:08,391
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1660
01:33:16,543 --> 01:33:17,376
Why?
1661
01:33:18,253 --> 01:33:19,086
Why?
1662
01:33:20,783 --> 01:33:22,316
Because it was God's will.
1663
01:33:23,903 --> 01:33:25,071
And being a non-believer
1664
01:33:25,073 --> 01:33:26,981
I don't expect you to understand that.
1665
01:33:26,983 --> 01:33:28,891
When someone we love dies,
1666
01:33:28,893 --> 01:33:31,196
we say how could God let that happen?
1667
01:33:34,697 --> 01:33:36,846
I know, I asked that question
1668
01:33:36,848 --> 01:33:40,386
over and over again when
my sister passed away.
1669
01:33:44,113 --> 01:33:46,171
And it's so easy to blame Him
1670
01:33:46,173 --> 01:33:50,261
because it's so much
harder to accept the fact
1671
01:33:50,263 --> 01:33:53,580
that these events
ultimately, have a purpose.
1672
01:33:58,222 --> 01:33:59,695
So I leave it all up to Him.
1673
01:34:02,052 --> 01:34:04,000
Trusting that He will show me the way
1674
01:34:04,002 --> 01:34:06,260
to live the life that He wants me to live
1675
01:34:06,262 --> 01:34:09,125
and be the person that He wants me to be.
1676
01:34:10,452 --> 01:34:12,652
And I'm wanted to take
what God had shown me
1677
01:34:14,230 --> 01:34:16,400
and share it with the world,
1678
01:34:16,402 --> 01:34:18,270
in the only way I knew how.
1679
01:34:18,272 --> 01:34:20,260
Through my passion for writing.
1680
01:34:20,262 --> 01:34:23,890
A person's relationship
with God is the most intimate bond
1681
01:34:23,892 --> 01:34:25,860
that any human being can have.
1682
01:34:25,862 --> 01:34:29,880
And if you reject the possibility
1683
01:34:29,882 --> 01:34:32,750
of a creator communicating
with His creation
1684
01:34:32,752 --> 01:34:36,350
well there's really nothing that I can say
1685
01:34:36,352 --> 01:34:37,970
that will change that.
1686
01:34:37,972 --> 01:34:42,971
Mr. Dackery, this interview
isn't about me, or my book,
1687
01:34:47,011 --> 01:34:48,949
or why I wrote it.
1688
01:34:48,951 --> 01:34:51,969
It's about you, wanting
to make it look like
1689
01:34:51,971 --> 01:34:53,909
I'm taking advantage of Christians
1690
01:34:53,911 --> 01:34:57,679
by appealing to their sentiments
and faiths, or whatever,
1691
01:34:57,681 --> 01:34:59,439
in order to make money.
1692
01:34:59,441 --> 01:35:03,119
Which is what you're doing here,
1693
01:35:03,121 --> 01:35:05,398
for ratings and to profit off of those
1694
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,279
who don't believe in God.
1695
01:35:07,281 --> 01:35:12,281
And that, Mr. Dackery
makes you a hypocrite
1696
01:35:12,581 --> 01:35:16,149
or should I call you by your real name,
1697
01:35:16,151 --> 01:35:16,984
Marione Pickle?
1698
01:35:17,854 --> 01:35:20,854
(AUDIENCE LAUGHING)
1699
01:35:28,001 --> 01:35:31,303
You're not the only one who
did their homework, Mr. Pickle.
1700
01:35:33,675 --> 01:35:35,884
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1701
01:35:35,886 --> 01:35:37,075
What happened was between me and God
1702
01:35:37,077 --> 01:35:38,927
and it doesn't matter what you think.
1703
01:35:41,450 --> 01:35:42,693
Any more questions?
1704
01:35:45,650 --> 01:35:48,473
Nope, I think that covers it.
1705
01:35:50,946 --> 01:35:54,113
(AUDIENCE APPLAUDING)
1706
01:36:05,331 --> 01:36:06,748
Fade to black.
1707
01:36:12,065 --> 01:36:13,578
Well how about that?
1708
01:36:13,580 --> 01:36:18,579
Betsy has left the building,
thank you and goodnight.
1709
01:36:18,992 --> 01:36:21,992
(UPBEAT ROCK MUSIC)
1710
01:36:39,007 --> 01:36:40,090
You did good.
1711
01:36:41,198 --> 01:36:44,115
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1712
01:36:49,745 --> 01:36:51,638
So did you.
1713
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:52,890
Me?
1714
01:36:52,892 --> 01:36:53,872
What did I do?
1715
01:36:55,799 --> 01:36:58,922
You were there for
me, just like you said.
1716
01:37:01,212 --> 01:37:02,712
And you know what?
1717
01:37:04,055 --> 01:37:07,054
It doesn't matter if you believe me.
1718
01:37:09,679 --> 01:37:11,346
Who said I didn't?
1719
01:37:15,428 --> 01:37:17,551
Gotta take care of some business upstairs.
1720
01:37:25,868 --> 01:37:27,731
Good show Betsy Simon.
1721
01:37:34,468 --> 01:37:35,301
Really?
1722
01:37:36,298 --> 01:37:37,131
Really.
1723
01:37:38,515 --> 01:37:40,896
And we want you to know,
1724
01:37:40,898 --> 01:37:42,848
we're still going to make the donation.
1725
01:37:44,673 --> 01:37:45,506
What?
1726
01:37:46,448 --> 01:37:48,161
Even after the way it just ended?
1727
01:37:49,338 --> 01:37:50,513
No doubt.
1728
01:37:50,515 --> 01:37:52,646
(LAUGHS)
1729
01:37:52,648 --> 01:37:55,277
Everyone loves a hero.
1730
01:37:56,627 --> 01:37:58,970
Goodnight Betsy Simon.
1731
01:38:00,185 --> 01:38:03,268
(FUNKY UPBEAT MUSIC)
1732
01:38:21,263 --> 01:38:24,180
(MELANCHOLY MUSIC)
1733
01:38:25,787 --> 01:38:27,210
Your boss just left.
1734
01:38:30,085 --> 01:38:31,235
Uh, he's not my boss.
1735
01:38:33,117 --> 01:38:34,387
Not anymore.
1736
01:38:37,570 --> 01:38:38,403
I was fired.
1737
01:38:43,929 --> 01:38:46,096
Oh, for being deceptive?
1738
01:38:49,966 --> 01:38:50,799
No.
1739
01:38:54,616 --> 01:38:57,174
I objected to him
1740
01:38:57,176 --> 01:39:02,176
using the information that I
gave him about your sister.
1741
01:39:13,746 --> 01:39:15,059
I'm so sorry Betsy.
1742
01:39:17,066 --> 01:39:20,184
When they asked me to get
information about you,
1743
01:39:20,186 --> 01:39:22,789
I was just doing my job.
1744
01:39:27,705 --> 01:39:31,704
I never expected to feel
the way I do about you.
1745
01:39:43,340 --> 01:39:45,507
I, I did a terrible thing.
1746
01:39:46,935 --> 01:39:48,385
Any chance you'll forgive me?
1747
01:39:57,531 --> 01:39:58,364
Well,
1748
01:40:00,695 --> 01:40:03,045
You picked a good place
to ask for forgiveness.
1749
01:40:08,234 --> 01:40:10,984
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1750
01:40:18,444 --> 01:40:21,111
(CLEARS THROAT)
1751
01:40:23,224 --> 01:40:27,544
Uh, and there's something else.
1752
01:40:28,614 --> 01:40:33,384
After watching you, I
decided to ask the Pastor
1753
01:40:35,144 --> 01:40:38,797
if he'd help me recommit my life to God.
1754
01:40:40,767 --> 01:40:44,432
You sure this isn't just
another case of infatuation?
1755
01:40:44,434 --> 01:40:45,267
No.
1756
01:40:48,834 --> 01:40:49,667
Clarification.
1757
01:40:52,204 --> 01:40:53,037
Good idea.
1758
01:40:54,010 --> 01:40:56,760
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1759
01:41:56,399 --> 01:41:57,232
Thank you.
1760
01:42:14,809 --> 01:42:17,440
And congratulations are in order.
1761
01:42:17,442 --> 01:42:18,275
For what?
1762
01:42:19,502 --> 01:42:22,295
For Heavens to Betsy
selling a million copies.
1763
01:42:27,172 --> 01:42:28,172
So how does it feel?
1764
01:42:29,949 --> 01:42:30,782
Good.
1765
01:42:32,258 --> 01:42:33,530
She thinks so too, she feels great.
1766
01:42:33,532 --> 01:42:37,090
- Here you go.
- She's a big part of this.
1767
01:42:37,092 --> 01:42:38,900
- Yeah I know.
- So you're not afraid
1768
01:42:38,902 --> 01:42:42,054
of making the same mistakes again?
1769
01:42:46,201 --> 01:42:48,679
No, although it is a little strange
1770
01:42:48,681 --> 01:42:51,869
that you're now dressing like
you did in the other life.
1771
01:42:51,871 --> 01:42:56,254
Well, one has to keep up appearances.
1772
01:42:57,580 --> 01:43:00,859
(LAUGHS) You know, you sound as if
1773
01:43:00,861 --> 01:43:02,714
you now believe everything I wrote.
1774
01:43:10,831 --> 01:43:15,831
I never told anyone that
my father gave me this watch.
1775
01:43:20,161 --> 01:43:22,240
Not in this life.
1776
01:43:22,242 --> 01:43:24,992
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1777
01:43:26,461 --> 01:43:28,211
Well, goodbye Wishes.
1778
01:43:35,780 --> 01:43:39,037
Thank you, Brian Manely.
1779
01:43:40,121 --> 01:43:42,871
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1780
01:43:55,024 --> 01:43:57,274
(LAUGHING)
1781
01:43:59,623 --> 01:44:00,456
Goodbye.
1782
01:44:14,885 --> 01:44:17,635
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1783
01:44:46,986 --> 01:44:48,760
(GASPS)
1784
01:44:48,762 --> 01:44:52,262
(MELANCHOLY HYMNAL MUSIC)
1785
01:45:33,278 --> 01:45:35,661
I'm here to tell you, that I'm okay.
1786
01:45:37,395 --> 01:45:41,616
The Sally that God showed you, wasn't me.
1787
01:45:41,618 --> 01:45:43,431
Not the Sally that you loved,
1788
01:45:45,232 --> 01:45:47,511
or the sister that you lost.
1789
01:45:49,498 --> 01:45:52,531
I left when I did, because it was time.
1790
01:45:55,547 --> 01:45:57,047
I didn't wanna go.
1791
01:45:59,567 --> 01:46:02,017
Sometimes it's too soon, I know.
1792
01:46:03,422 --> 01:46:05,705
He wanted me to ease your mind
1793
01:46:05,707 --> 01:46:08,880
and give you peace so that
you can go on with your life.
1794
01:46:14,247 --> 01:46:15,882
I love you.
1795
01:46:15,884 --> 01:46:16,990
I love you too.
1796
01:46:23,117 --> 01:46:24,600
So you're not here to stay?
1797
01:46:26,057 --> 01:46:26,890
No.
1798
01:46:29,834 --> 01:46:33,084
But I'll always be here, in your heart.
1799
01:46:35,005 --> 01:46:38,505
(MELANCHOLY HYMNAL MUSIC)
1800
01:46:47,746 --> 01:46:49,196
She's such a beautiful kitty.
1801
01:46:55,136 --> 01:46:56,503
Her names Wishes.
1802
01:47:10,107 --> 01:47:12,857
(PEACEFUL MUSIC)
1803
01:47:46,836 --> 01:47:51,836
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