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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:45,981 --> 00:01:49,193 >> Omar Wasow: Directions to Princeton Hospital 2 00:01:49,443 --> 00:01:52,112 >> GPS Service: Getting directions to Princeton Animal Hospital. 3 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:56,867 >> Omar: Directions to Princeton Hospital. 4 00:01:57,117 --> 00:01:59,786 Getting directions to Princeton Animal Hospital. 5 00:02:01,955 --> 00:02:03,874 >> Omar: Princeton Hospital. 6 00:02:04,291 --> 00:02:08,587 Here's Princeton Animal Hospital. It's about two and a half miles south. 7 00:02:08,837 --> 00:02:10,172 >> Jennifer Brea: Can you ask one more time? 8 00:02:10,422 --> 00:02:12,799 >> Omar: Hospitals near Princeton. 9 00:02:13,425 --> 00:02:15,385 Searching for youth hostels and Inns. 10 00:02:28,815 --> 00:02:30,317 What were you saying love? 11 00:02:31,902 --> 00:02:34,488 Just one has to be careful. 12 00:02:35,781 --> 00:02:52,631 If you say too little they can't help you and if you say too much they think you're a kind of mental patient. 13 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:28,709 >> Jennifer: From as early as I can remember 14 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:31,170 I wanted to swallow the world whole. 15 00:03:33,172 --> 00:03:36,925 Dreaming about all the places I would go 16 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:39,845 and the things I would see 17 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:44,641 I thought if I dreamed hard enough anything was possible 18 00:03:44,892 --> 00:03:46,977 A film by Jennifer Brea. 19 00:03:47,644 --> 00:03:50,439 Today we talked with a U.S. student studying abroad in Beijing. 20 00:03:50,689 --> 00:03:53,859 >> Jennifer: Well I know some some of us were kind of scared atually because... 21 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,909 We are constantly telling ourselves a story 22 00:04:03,202 --> 00:04:05,078 about who we are 23 00:04:05,329 --> 00:04:07,247 and where we're going. 24 00:04:08,999 --> 00:04:10,667 For example 25 00:04:11,710 --> 00:04:13,670 that’s my husband, Omar. 26 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:15,547 I met him when I was twenty-five. 27 00:04:17,257 --> 00:04:20,469 We were both at Harvard getting our PhDs 28 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,681 Three months later I knew that I wanted to marry him. 29 00:04:25,891 --> 00:04:32,397 I meet Jen when she's visiting campus and I'm like, "Wow who's that? She's really cute!" And- 30 00:04:32,648 --> 00:04:33,106 Really? 31 00:04:33,357 --> 00:04:34,650 Yeah and- 32 00:04:36,026 --> 00:04:36,985 but I've got no game, right? 33 00:04:37,236 --> 00:04:40,948 So the whole session l’m thinking like, "How do I start a conversation with her?" 34 00:04:41,198 --> 00:04:43,283 And then at the end of the session she comes over and talks to me. 35 00:04:43,534 --> 00:04:48,372 And I was like yes! And she says like, "what is going on tonight?" 36 00:04:48,622 --> 00:04:53,961 and I was just like, "this never happens to me! This never happens to me." 37 00:05:01,927 --> 00:05:07,558 >> Person filming: Omar holding the back of a kayak flailing all over the place to try to get in. 38 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:11,937 Hopefully this is just a kayaking trip, not a metaphor. 39 00:05:13,230 --> 00:05:16,567 >> Jennifer: I mean sure, we all know nothing lasts forever 40 00:05:19,278 --> 00:05:22,155 I just thought I would have more time. 41 00:05:29,162 --> 00:05:33,166 And then one day I got a fever of a hundred and four point seven degrees. 42 00:05:36,044 --> 00:05:39,965 I got better but something wasn't right. 43 00:05:42,759 --> 00:05:49,474 I would go to the kitchen to get a glass of water and then I wouldn't be able to move again. 44 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:56,273 I don't know what I did to myself. I don't think I can get up off the couch. 45 00:06:02,070 --> 00:06:11,413 I know you might be saying to yourself if I really couldn't stand up why would I be filming it? Well... 46 00:06:11,663 --> 00:06:20,339 I kind of think that someone should see this. 47 00:06:29,473 --> 00:06:32,893 That first year I had six infections. 48 00:06:33,769 --> 00:06:36,855 Okay, turn off the light. 49 00:06:37,105 --> 00:06:43,320 I basically would get out of bed, go to class, and then I was in bed again.[ 50 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:52,371 l’d go to the doctor and he would tell me, "you're just dehydrated. Everyone gets stressed." 51 00:06:52,996 --> 00:06:59,711 So I don't know if this is going to happen at the doctor's office or not but I... 52 00:07:02,631 --> 00:07:05,259 I figure it's good to just keep documenting. 53 00:07:08,595 --> 00:07:11,682 The right side of my face feels numb. 54 00:07:12,307 --> 00:07:16,687 I feel like my brain is misfiring. 55 00:07:18,730 --> 00:07:25,487 Sometimes I have these strange little moments where like my hand will make a fist and I can't open it. 56 00:07:29,950 --> 00:07:37,374 Sometimes I wouldn't be able to speak, l’d have no thoughts, no words. 57 00:07:47,593 --> 00:07:53,056 I would be sensitive to light and the slightest sound could cause excruciating pain. 58 00:08:07,988 --> 00:08:09,990 >> Omar: I'm gonna stop recording. 59 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,535 >> Jennifer: No, don't. 60 00:08:14,411 --> 00:08:16,538 It’s fine. 61 00:08:22,586 --> 00:08:25,964 >> Omar: This is perhaps the least chivalrous thing I've ever done in my life. 62 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:31,887 Okay I'm gonna rest here for a minute. 63 00:08:33,597 --> 00:08:36,642 It happened all of a sudden. I don't know- 64 00:08:36,975 --> 00:08:40,646 it's like someone turned off the lights or something. 65 00:08:52,115 --> 00:08:55,035 >> Jennifer: I saw every kind of specialist. 66 00:08:55,285 --> 00:09:04,336 Infectious disease doctors, endocrinologists, cardiologists, and finally a neurologist. 67 00:09:04,837 --> 00:09:08,090 My neurologist diagnosed me with conversion disorder. 68 00:09:10,008 --> 00:09:16,014 He said that all of my symptoms, even the fever, the infection for which I took antibiotics 69 00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:22,145 were being caused by some distant trauma I might not even be able to remember. 70 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:30,237 Either that or I was just really stressed out about my final exams. 71 00:10:01,435 --> 00:10:05,022 For the next several years I spent most of my time bedridden. 72 00:10:15,157 --> 00:10:17,826 I thought maybe I had a rare disease. 73 00:10:18,076 --> 00:10:20,204 Maybe I was dying. 74 00:10:21,205 --> 00:10:27,503 And then I went online and found thousands of other people all over the world just like me. 75 00:10:28,837 --> 00:10:32,758 Yeah I'm completely bed ridden. I have lost the ability to walk. 76 00:10:33,008 --> 00:10:40,224 I crawl from my bed to my bathroom and I just think, "this s my life. What a shit hole!" 77 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:45,229 It's the cognitive problems that are the most disabling. 78 00:10:45,479 --> 00:10:48,774 I live in a dark room twenty-four seven. 79 00:10:51,193 --> 00:10:53,237 I have ME/CFS. 80 00:10:53,487 --> 00:10:55,405 That's Chronic Fatigue Syndrome 81 00:10:55,656 --> 00:11:01,954 or Myalgic Encephalomyelitis I think is the term that you're supposed to use now. 82 00:11:02,955 --> 00:11:06,375 I've have some kind of ME/CFS for about eight years now. 83 00:11:06,625 --> 00:11:09,336 I was ten years old when I first got sick. 84 00:11:09,711 --> 00:11:11,755 I was a really competitive skier. 85 00:11:12,005 --> 00:11:16,635 At one point I was ranked seventeenth on the entire East Coast for mogul skiing. 86 00:11:17,344 --> 00:11:22,808 This is the couch. These three cushions are where I spend my life. 87 00:11:23,058 --> 00:11:28,981 And out there that's that's all my old life. 88 00:11:31,275 --> 00:11:33,944 >> Larry King: The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 89 00:11:34,194 --> 00:11:39,533 It's been called the Yuppie Flu, Epstein Barr, and a living hell by those who suffer from it. 90 00:11:39,783 --> 00:11:44,413 There's still no adequate medical explanation for it. The experts say it could be triggered by viruses. 91 00:11:44,663 --> 00:11:50,252 We all get tired but is it Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Some believe that's a made up condition. 92 00:11:57,342 --> 00:12:00,012 You have Chronic Fatigue ME. 93 00:12:00,470 --> 00:12:04,224 You're in that percentage of people who are severely disabled. 94 00:12:05,267 --> 00:12:13,859 Based on your duration of illness you are still in that category that we call in sort of the acute phase. 95 00:12:14,109 --> 00:12:20,449 And the CDC statistic's that if you've been sick five years you're unlikely to recover. I agree with that statistic. 96 00:12:21,116 --> 00:12:26,872 People reach a plateau of function that's better than they were at baseline 97 00:12:27,122 --> 00:12:28,957 but not that they have a full recovery. 98 00:13:31,103 --> 00:13:34,022 I had no idea if it would be months 99 00:13:36,108 --> 00:13:37,985 or years 100 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:42,281 or decades. 101 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:52,999 It was like I had died, but was forced to watch as the world moved on. 102 00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:04,469 If I completely disappear and I'm in this bed and I can do nothing 103 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,140 then it's like I don't even exist or that I never existed. 104 00:14:11,018 --> 00:14:17,941 And then what was the point of it all? Of being born in the first place? 105 00:14:25,157 --> 00:14:31,705 You know and honestly there are a lot of days when I just feel like I'm doing a good job 106 00:14:31,955 --> 00:14:36,543 by just holding it together and not killing myself. 107 00:14:38,128 --> 00:14:40,923 Like I'm really proud of that. 108 00:14:41,965 --> 00:14:46,595 And it's not- I really don't want to die. Like I really don't want to die. 109 00:14:52,226 --> 00:14:55,020 But at a certain point it's hard to call this living and... 110 00:15:02,110 --> 00:15:09,743 I think the grief of all those things I might not do or see or have or... 111 00:15:41,233 --> 00:15:42,317 Yeah so it's sad. 112 00:15:55,455 --> 00:15:57,791 Hey Jen. 113 00:16:01,044 --> 00:16:02,880 Hi. 114 00:16:03,130 --> 00:16:06,633 Welcome to My World of One Room. 115 00:16:07,676 --> 00:16:12,139 I have been severely unwell for eight years. 116 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:15,392 >> Jennifer: I found Jessica online. 117 00:16:15,851 --> 00:16:18,687 She was so young and had lost so much. 118 00:16:19,313 --> 00:16:22,107 Yet somehow, she found a way to keep going. 119 00:16:23,233 --> 00:16:25,736 So I asked if I could film her 120 00:16:25,986 --> 00:16:31,200 I mean, if we have to do it ten minutes at a time over like many days, we'll get there. 121 00:16:31,825 --> 00:16:32,409 Yeah. 122 00:16:34,077 --> 00:16:38,498 Happy birthday to you, Happy birthday to you 123 00:16:38,749 --> 00:16:43,670 Happy birthday dear Jessica, Happy birthday to you 124 00:16:47,466 --> 00:16:50,344 - Come on, come on. - Excellent. 125 00:16:50,719 --> 00:16:55,974 >> Jessica: I get to my birthday and for me, that's a really difficult date 126 00:16:56,517 --> 00:16:59,937 because I think it’s another year in bed. 127 00:17:00,521 --> 00:17:02,898 I need your help. 128 00:17:09,238 --> 00:17:12,032 Too loud. 129 00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:21,333 I remember my sixteenth birthday in bed. 130 00:17:21,583 --> 00:17:28,298 I remember my seventeenth, eighteenth, nineteenth, twentieth, twenty-first. 131 00:17:30,467 --> 00:17:32,094 Pretty. Look. 132 00:17:32,344 --> 00:17:38,267 I made it into a chair for a couple of seconds for my twenty-second but other than that I was in bed. 133 00:17:38,684 --> 00:17:40,936 You need your injection, don't you. 134 00:17:41,728 --> 00:17:43,230 Injection mid-champagne. 135 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:44,857 Mid-champagne. 136 00:17:45,107 --> 00:17:57,202 And that for me is very, very scary because you don't realize when you're in a bubble quite how much time goes, you know? 137 00:17:57,452 --> 00:17:58,537 The everyday joy. 138 00:18:00,122 --> 00:18:00,706 Happy birthday. 139 00:18:00,956 --> 00:18:02,332 Happy birthday. 140 00:18:04,376 --> 00:18:06,879 Have some champagne, dear. 141 00:18:30,194 --> 00:18:36,533 >> Jessica: When I was fourteen I suffered with a flu-like virus. 142 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:50,422 I was sleeping all through school and I had the teacher shouting at me saying, "Jessica! Pull your head off that table." 143 00:18:52,424 --> 00:18:58,347 I remained in hospital for four years constantly. 144 00:18:59,932 --> 00:19:02,893 I was in a semi-coma. 145 00:19:07,481 --> 00:19:11,151 The doctors had no idea what to do. 146 00:19:12,486 --> 00:19:18,951 The nurses were getting frustrated at me for not getting better. 147 00:19:22,204 --> 00:19:25,123 They almost saw me as a lost cause. 148 00:19:25,374 --> 00:19:28,794 l’m very lucky to have a sister like you. 149 00:19:29,336 --> 00:19:32,256 You can’t do makeup. Open. 150 00:19:32,881 --> 00:19:34,299 That’II do. 151 00:19:34,550 --> 00:19:35,801 I think it will. 152 00:19:39,096 --> 00:19:40,430 When you were in that hospital 153 00:19:40,681 --> 00:19:45,978 and you couldn’t move or speak, how did you stay sane? 154 00:19:47,563 --> 00:19:52,776 I stayed sane because I can do lots of things with my mind 155 00:19:53,026 --> 00:19:58,448 and I go to many different places all over the world in my mind. 156 00:20:03,954 --> 00:20:12,045 I love Australia because I love the water and I'd love to go scuba diving there. 157 00:20:19,803 --> 00:20:28,604 As I jump into the water and have that freedom of my body moving but there being no sound. 158 00:20:32,316 --> 00:20:41,283 and a multitude of different colors of fish calm you down and relax you. 159 00:20:45,579 --> 00:20:52,044 It becomes more and more magical and still there's that silence. 160 00:21:05,098 --> 00:21:06,975 Awkward! 161 00:21:11,688 --> 00:21:18,820 >> Jessica: I suffer with severe osteoporosis now because I've been bedridden for so long with ME. 162 00:21:19,071 --> 00:21:22,282 So I have the bones of a hundred-year-old. 163 00:21:24,034 --> 00:21:31,333 I'm quite a tall girl. I've actually grown four inches in the time I've been bedridden. 164 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,088 So I've never actually stood up at this height. 165 00:21:38,632 --> 00:21:45,472 About a month ago I touched the floor for the first time. 166 00:21:47,391 --> 00:21:50,102 You alright? Feet on the ground? 167 00:21:50,477 --> 00:21:51,979 Feet on the ground. 168 00:21:55,107 --> 00:21:56,984 How's that? 169 00:21:57,568 --> 00:22:00,320 It's mental. Oh my goodness. 170 00:22:01,321 --> 00:22:04,324 When did you last do this? 171 00:22:04,575 --> 00:22:12,291 Not for about probably for eight years. 172 00:22:12,541 --> 00:22:14,209 Eight years. 173 00:22:14,459 --> 00:22:15,794 And you sat on the bed with Tom didn't you? 174 00:22:16,044 --> 00:22:19,381 Yeah but it didn't go like this. 175 00:22:20,465 --> 00:22:24,011 Stand on your feet. 176 00:22:27,222 --> 00:22:34,271 Sleepy? Okay, come down my girl. 177 00:23:12,351 --> 00:23:13,852 - Hi! - Hi, how's it going? 178 00:23:14,102 --> 00:23:17,606 New video is starting. There you are. 179 00:23:18,065 --> 00:23:22,945 I started filming more and more people all over the world from my bed. 180 00:23:23,195 --> 00:23:25,531 Camera speeds! 181 00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:29,910 Who am I going to be looking at? 182 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,996 Oh you're looking at this camera right there. 183 00:23:35,541 --> 00:23:38,669 I found out that my disease isn't rare at all. 184 00:23:38,919 --> 00:23:41,505 A million people in the US have it. 185 00:23:42,506 --> 00:23:44,091 Seventeen million around the world. 186 00:23:51,598 --> 00:23:54,810 That means it’s twice as common as multiple sclerosis. 187 00:23:55,686 --> 00:23:58,313 Like MS, it’s a spectrum disorder. 188 00:24:00,190 --> 00:24:05,863 I know people who can work and you’d never know from looking at them that they were sick. 189 00:24:06,196 --> 00:24:09,157 Who can walk a mile, but have cognitive problems. 190 00:24:09,408 --> 00:24:13,036 A quarter of us are homebound or bedridden. 191 00:24:17,332 --> 00:24:20,419 Saw someone collecting the other day for ME. 192 00:24:20,794 --> 00:24:23,797 That's the one where "I don’t feel like going to work today." 193 00:24:25,674 --> 00:24:28,302 Chronic fatigue syndrome. Yeah, I'm tired too. 194 00:24:31,054 --> 00:24:35,309 Jen? Jen? 195 00:24:36,768 --> 00:24:40,939 Okay, let's lay down. 196 00:24:42,858 --> 00:24:46,945 So Jen is calling in. Can you see? 197 00:24:49,865 --> 00:24:50,407 Jen? 198 00:24:51,533 --> 00:24:53,827 Hey! There you are. You look comfy. 199 00:24:54,077 --> 00:24:56,079 Nancy, one. Take one. Mark. 200 00:24:57,915 --> 00:25:02,920 I'm Nancy Klimas. I'm a clinical Immunologist which is the study of the immune systems. 201 00:25:03,170 --> 00:25:06,298 Clinical Immunology's a kind of a very small specialty. 202 00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:09,051 There aren't many people around that do clinical immunology. 203 00:25:09,301 --> 00:25:12,804 I was one of a kind. I was the only immunologist at my university. 204 00:25:15,641 --> 00:25:20,103 The year was '84, that was the year HIV hit the scene big time. 205 00:25:21,438 --> 00:25:26,777 My practice was people without HIV but people who didn't make antibody, 206 00:25:27,027 --> 00:25:28,737 people that were getting sick without explanation. 207 00:25:29,988 --> 00:25:34,993 A patient came in to see me and she had been brutalized by the health care system. 208 00:25:35,244 --> 00:25:38,288 She was terribly ill, she was profoundly fatigued. 209 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:41,333 She'd been put on antidepressants without any depression. 210 00:25:41,583 --> 00:25:47,005 She'd been put on antipsychotics without any mental illness whatsoever. 211 00:25:47,256 --> 00:25:48,757 It was like shocking. 212 00:25:49,007 --> 00:25:50,884 So I was listening to her. She was just telling me this story. 213 00:25:51,134 --> 00:25:54,638 She says, "if you would just at least look at my immune system and see if there's something wrong." 214 00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:59,226 We had this amazing laboratory that could look at all kinds of parts of the immune system. 215 00:25:59,476 --> 00:26:00,644 So I put her through the whole nine yards. 216 00:26:00,894 --> 00:26:04,857 Everything we knew who had to do with the time. And I came back to four weeks later 217 00:26:05,107 --> 00:26:10,070 and I said I'm sorry to say that there's something terribly wrong with your immune system. 218 00:26:10,612 --> 00:26:16,034 The cells that are antiviral just don't do much in culture that can't kill all the virally infected targets 219 00:26:16,285 --> 00:26:18,704 you're making all kinds of inflammatory cytokines. 220 00:26:19,037 --> 00:26:23,417 This is a sick immune system. Well she burst into tears and I thought, oh my god. 221 00:26:23,667 --> 00:26:27,337 You know? Poor thing. I'm such an idiot I mean I must've said this wrong. 222 00:26:27,588 --> 00:26:31,633 I should have broken it to her- well she was crying with joy. It was joyful tears 223 00:26:31,884 --> 00:26:37,097 because she had been told by everyone there was absolutely nothing wrong with her; it had to be in her head. 224 00:26:37,347 --> 00:26:39,641 And I was telling her there was something terribly wrong with her 225 00:26:39,892 --> 00:26:46,607 and she was thrilled, happy, joyful because it wasn't in her head. 226 00:26:46,857 --> 00:26:49,484 So then this word of mouth thing happened. 227 00:26:49,818 --> 00:26:54,448 And I had about twenty-five patients and I did the same work up and there was a consistent look. 228 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,205 So we published a paper that said that there was a natural killer cell deficiency. 229 00:27:01,914 --> 00:27:04,833 These cells that are antiviral couldn't kill viruses. 230 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:10,964 This illness appeared to be a form of an acquired immune deficiency. 231 00:27:11,298 --> 00:27:17,304 Now if you go back historically, you can see illnesses very similar to this called many different things. 232 00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:28,524 Over the last century, there have been roughly seventy outbreaks of a strikingly similar disease. 233 00:27:29,191 --> 00:27:35,030 In each case, often following an outbreak of a virus like Epstein Barr or coxsackie, 234 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,868 a small percentage of people never seem to get better. 235 00:27:43,038 --> 00:27:46,959 For a long time, it was seen as a new form of polio. 236 00:27:49,086 --> 00:27:54,466 And later, encephalomyelitis, which means inflammation of the brain and spinal cord 237 00:27:55,592 --> 00:27:59,763 until an outbreak in the 1980s when it was given a new name. 238 00:28:00,722 --> 00:28:03,809 A mystery disease has struck the town of Incline Village, Nevada. 239 00:28:04,059 --> 00:28:05,644 A disease for which doctors have no cure. 240 00:28:05,894 --> 00:28:10,107 Doctors have diagnosed more than two hundred cases of the same illness in this area. 241 00:28:10,357 --> 00:28:14,778 In all of my years of training and practice, I've never seen anything quite like this. 242 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:18,907 She's talking out of the lens? Okay. 243 00:28:20,909 --> 00:28:23,328 >> Jennifer: Do you remember the beginning of the outbreak 244 00:28:23,579 --> 00:28:28,333 of what would later come to be called Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? 245 00:28:28,584 --> 00:28:32,004 I can recall to this day those moments. 246 00:28:33,922 --> 00:28:38,802 One was an epidemic of apparent mono in a girl’s basketball team. 247 00:28:39,511 --> 00:28:46,435 And by July, August we had over two hundred cases of adult viral-like syndrome. 248 00:28:47,603 --> 00:28:53,901 It wasn't that fact they were showing up sick, it was the fact that they remained sick as the years went by. 249 00:28:54,359 --> 00:29:01,783 They not only remained sick, their sickness actually evolved into something different than it was at the beginning. 250 00:29:02,367 --> 00:29:06,079 Now they were complaining of severe and debilitating fatigue. 251 00:29:06,330 --> 00:29:10,209 They began to complain of strange cognitive complaints. 252 00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:14,838 We were certain we were looking at something that we have never ever heard of before 253 00:29:15,088 --> 00:29:18,050 and began thinking about asking for help. 254 00:29:22,054 --> 00:29:26,391 >> Jennifer: When the CDC came out to investigate, they looked at patient’s charts, 255 00:29:26,725 --> 00:29:31,313 they noted that all of their lab results were normal, and then they went skiing. 256 00:29:32,898 --> 00:29:38,737 Doctor William Reeves, that man in charge of investigating Chronic Fatigue for the CDC, 257 00:29:38,987 --> 00:29:43,784 told us over the phone that one, there is no viral cause for this problem, 258 00:29:44,326 --> 00:29:47,287 two, there are no immune system abnormalities in patients with Chronic Fatigue. 259 00:29:47,538 --> 00:29:55,003 And three, there are no clusters. So when asked about the illness at Lake Tahoe, he said that was hysteria. 260 00:30:03,887 --> 00:30:06,473 I was two during the Incline Village outbreak. 261 00:30:10,060 --> 00:30:13,856 Thirty years later we don't seem any closer. 262 00:30:14,982 --> 00:30:19,027 We know that ME can be triggered by viruses and bacterial infections. 263 00:30:19,945 --> 00:30:26,451 But we don't know if the infection hides in places where it's hard to measure, like the brain. 264 00:30:27,369 --> 00:30:31,623 Or if it's long gone but leaves in its wake an autoimmune disease. 265 00:30:32,541 --> 00:30:37,421 There are now a handful of specialists, but most patients will never get to see one. 266 00:30:39,381 --> 00:30:41,258 I was lucky. 267 00:30:42,759 --> 00:30:46,930 My doctor prescribed me an antiviral drug called Valcyte. 268 00:30:53,353 --> 00:30:56,815 Two days later I was walking again. 269 00:31:10,329 --> 00:31:12,956 Hello! 270 00:31:16,126 --> 00:31:17,419 You alright? 271 00:31:17,669 --> 00:31:20,255 l’m good. l’m doing awesome! 272 00:31:28,555 --> 00:31:30,557 Hey, how are you doing? 273 00:31:30,807 --> 00:31:32,392 Congratulations! 274 00:31:37,689 --> 00:31:41,193 Thirty-five! 275 00:32:25,153 --> 00:32:26,947 I'm sorry please don't. 276 00:32:27,197 --> 00:32:30,826 Oh god. 277 00:32:31,076 --> 00:32:33,036 I'll get you some magnesium. 278 00:32:33,287 --> 00:32:35,330 Stop! I can't. 279 00:32:37,082 --> 00:32:42,880 I could feel everything in my head swelling pushing out my eyeballs. 280 00:32:56,185 --> 00:33:02,733 I would try to speak and the sounds that would come out of my mouth would be gibberish. 281 00:33:06,778 --> 00:33:09,406 I can't understand, love. 282 00:33:25,672 --> 00:33:27,257 It's gonna pass. 283 00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:29,510 Ok. 284 00:33:32,596 --> 00:33:34,598 Shh. 285 00:34:05,546 --> 00:34:06,547 How's Jen? 286 00:34:06,797 --> 00:34:10,592 Alright. She's much improved from two hours ago. 287 00:34:11,093 --> 00:34:15,264 You know, I still feel very lucky. 288 00:34:22,312 --> 00:34:24,690 Thank you. And fatherhood? 289 00:34:27,150 --> 00:34:29,444 I can't imagine it any other way. 290 00:34:29,695 --> 00:34:31,071 - Yeah. - Yeah. 291 00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:36,368 There are moments when I see us through other people's eyes 292 00:34:36,618 --> 00:34:46,128 and somehow that's much sadder than when I'm just kind of living our life together. 293 00:34:47,504 --> 00:34:49,423 This is normal for us. Like- 294 00:34:49,673 --> 00:34:51,550 >> Jennifer: It's so normal. 295 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,097 And it's only when other people observe how not normal it is 296 00:34:58,056 --> 00:35:02,352 that I'm forced to recalibrate 297 00:35:05,898 --> 00:35:09,067 and sit with how hard this is. 298 00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:18,035 You know what it is about being observed? It's that people feel sorry for me. 299 00:35:24,041 --> 00:35:25,375 And I don't know why that... 300 00:35:27,377 --> 00:35:30,923 >> Jennifer: Baby, I'm so sorry. 301 00:35:33,258 --> 00:35:35,135 It hits a nerve. 302 00:36:01,078 --> 00:36:04,331 He's the guy that first introduced me to email ten years ago. 303 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:18,720 Technology is not something that is oppositional to black people. 304 00:36:18,971 --> 00:36:20,347 Technology is opportunity. 305 00:36:24,685 --> 00:36:28,856 >>Jennifer: When I met Omar, I thought here's a guy who's going to change the world. 306 00:36:30,399 --> 00:36:32,943 Another movie, I think l’ve got one, the forty year old intern. 307 00:36:33,193 --> 00:36:39,408 Now I feel like if he's with me he can’t become the person he was meant to be. 308 00:36:40,534 --> 00:36:42,035 I think there’s definitely a sense on the internet 309 00:36:42,286 --> 00:36:47,165 that he is the first member of the internet kind of generation to become president. 310 00:36:50,794 --> 00:36:57,509 >>Omar: What's impossible to capture is just how hard this is day in day out. 311 00:37:02,181 --> 00:37:08,729 It’s hard to like go on Facebook and see friends having kids, raising kids. 312 00:37:08,979 --> 00:37:13,525 I just feel like our lives are frozen in this kind of sickness amber. 313 00:37:23,702 --> 00:37:26,663 I can't be anybody's mom like this. 314 00:37:26,914 --> 00:37:35,297 I can't be anybody's wife like this. I don't feel like I'm a person. I haven't showered in forever and my hair... 315 00:37:36,256 --> 00:37:41,178 l’m nothing. I can't give you anything. 316 00:37:41,428 --> 00:37:42,930 You're my wife... 317 00:37:43,180 --> 00:37:45,974 I can’t give you anything. 318 00:37:46,225 --> 00:37:49,394 ...and you bring joy into my life everyday. 319 00:38:00,697 --> 00:38:01,406 Hello? 320 00:38:01,949 --> 00:38:03,617 Hi Jen. 321 00:38:03,867 --> 00:38:06,328 Is it super bright in there? Or how is the light for you? 322 00:38:06,578 --> 00:38:09,998 I usually keep it really dark in here but it's okay. 323 00:38:12,626 --> 00:38:17,506 Daddy, daddy. 324 00:38:17,756 --> 00:38:22,970 >> Leeray Denton: Before I got sick we just lived, you know, husband and wife. 325 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:27,975 The wife had dinner ready when the husband came home and the house clean and... 326 00:38:30,769 --> 00:38:37,192 When you first got sick what did your husband think of all this as it was happening? 327 00:38:37,526 --> 00:38:45,409 I saw ten to twelve doctors that told me there was nothing wrong with me. 328 00:38:46,034 --> 00:38:52,916 I think that's maybe when Randy started doubting a little bit about how sick I was. 329 00:38:54,168 --> 00:38:56,920 Oh, you guys. 330 00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:03,427 And all of my husband's family, they just immediately jumped on that. 331 00:39:04,178 --> 00:39:11,643 "Oh, it's something mental. If the doctors can't find something, it must just be in her head." 332 00:39:11,894 --> 00:39:12,936 It’s a gun? 333 00:39:13,812 --> 00:39:18,108 Ruger, seven and a half inches. Man. Wow! 334 00:39:20,903 --> 00:39:23,322 >>Leeray: We were married for fourteen years 335 00:39:23,572 --> 00:39:26,992 and I kind of feel like that's about as much as he could take. 336 00:39:38,837 --> 00:39:42,591 It was really scary when he left. 337 00:39:44,801 --> 00:39:57,439 I was worried about how I was going to cope with everything. How I was going to do everything. 338 00:39:57,689 --> 00:40:01,068 I had some struggles with my faith. 339 00:40:05,822 --> 00:40:09,701 I just felt so alone. 340 00:40:16,917 --> 00:40:21,964 I honestly don't have any friends now. They're gone. 341 00:40:29,972 --> 00:40:33,225 The only people that never questioned me were my children. 342 00:40:44,403 --> 00:40:46,530 Hi Jessica! 343 00:40:47,197 --> 00:40:54,538 I remember Jessica before she had gone to school she would clean the house and vacuum and do all this stuff for me. 344 00:40:56,582 --> 00:41:03,255 So they just kind of took over when he left. They just jumped in there for me. 345 00:41:05,299 --> 00:41:13,557 I missed graduations, I missed ball games. I missed things that mothers don't miss. 346 00:41:14,391 --> 00:41:20,105 But I was with my girls more than anybody I know was with their kids. 347 00:41:21,023 --> 00:41:22,274 Did you see my back bends? 348 00:41:22,608 --> 00:41:23,275 Yes. 349 00:41:23,609 --> 00:41:24,735 Aren't you proud of me? 350 00:41:24,985 --> 00:41:27,738 Yeah, I'm real proud of you! 351 00:41:29,615 --> 00:41:33,160 You know they would come in my room and sit and we'd talk for hours. 352 00:41:37,664 --> 00:41:42,920 That's the most important thing about being a mom is when your kids need you you're there for them. 353 00:41:46,173 --> 00:41:48,842 Go, Casie, go! Go, go, go! 354 00:41:49,092 --> 00:41:52,971 I thought the worst day of my life was when I got diagnosed but it wasn't. 355 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,767 It was when Casie got diagnosed. 356 00:41:59,102 --> 00:42:03,857 That was the worst day of my life. 357 00:42:14,284 --> 00:42:15,786 >> Casie: I was in denial at first. 358 00:42:16,036 --> 00:42:20,958 I didn't want to think that was even a possibility for me to get what she had. 359 00:42:22,751 --> 00:42:29,842 Probably a good six to seven months after I had been very, very ill I found a neurologist. 360 00:42:31,009 --> 00:42:33,971 And he said, "Well I have good news and bad news." 361 00:42:34,346 --> 00:42:37,766 “The good news is I figured out what you have and it's Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. 362 00:42:38,433 --> 00:42:43,146 "The bad news is there's nothing we can do and you're going to have to go home and wait it out." 363 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,398 “Wait for a cure." 364 00:42:44,648 --> 00:42:46,859 The bubbles swimming in the- 365 00:42:47,109 --> 00:42:49,570 Bubbles. Very good. 366 00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:52,197 Bobbing. Very good. 367 00:42:52,447 --> 00:42:56,618 Annabelle's asked me before, "why are you and Grandma both sick?" 368 00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:01,790 and "what does that mean? Am I gonna get sick?" 369 00:43:02,165 --> 00:43:07,379 I don't think she's scared necessarily but she's definitely asked questions and I don't really have answers. 370 00:43:12,676 --> 00:43:17,639 My dad did not believe my mom was sick he says up until I got sick 371 00:43:19,183 --> 00:43:27,232 but when I got sick I guess it just jolted him into believing wait a second this is real. 372 00:43:27,482 --> 00:43:30,319 Grandma says Hi Annabelle! 373 00:43:31,361 --> 00:43:36,450 I think Casie deals with this disease like she does because she saw how I dealt with it. 374 00:43:37,743 --> 00:43:40,037 And it didn't stop me from being mom. 375 00:43:40,746 --> 00:43:43,749 Can you see? My arms are getting tired. Can you still see it? 376 00:43:46,126 --> 00:43:49,630 Having kids with this would be the hardest thing you ever do 377 00:43:50,339 --> 00:43:54,510 and it would be the best thing that you'd ever do. 378 00:43:55,260 --> 00:43:56,512 You'd be a great mom. 379 00:43:58,847 --> 00:44:02,267 You'd be a great mom. 380 00:44:23,163 --> 00:44:25,040 You're like an hour old. 381 00:44:28,418 --> 00:44:36,510 >> Jennifer: I was starting to see that maybe we didn’t have to let go of everything we’d hoped for and wanted. 382 00:44:37,511 --> 00:44:40,514 But I still had so many basic questions. 383 00:44:42,724 --> 00:44:45,727 If we had kids, would it be safe? 384 00:44:46,562 --> 00:44:50,274 Could my son or daughter get what I have? 385 00:44:54,361 --> 00:44:59,449 And I didn’t know why so many doctors couldn’t answer these basic questions. 386 00:45:01,451 --> 00:45:05,163 Doctors want to know what to do but it’s not in the textbooks of medicine. 387 00:45:05,414 --> 00:45:06,665 'What’re we supposed to do?' You know 388 00:45:06,915 --> 00:45:10,085 so they have to go the same place you go and google it. 389 00:45:12,254 --> 00:45:16,717 In the United States we're still graduating class after class of medical students 390 00:45:16,967 --> 00:45:21,763 that haven't even heard of this illness and where to even look for its diagnostic criteria. 391 00:45:22,014 --> 00:45:25,601 The name, this Chronic Fatigue Syndrome name, has been part of it. 392 00:45:26,018 --> 00:45:29,021 And let me be a feminist for a moment: being a woman is part of it. 393 00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:33,275 Eighty-five percent of the people with this illness are female. 394 00:45:40,616 --> 00:45:43,118 Hysteria. 395 00:45:43,535 --> 00:45:46,914 It’s an idea as old as written history. 396 00:45:49,625 --> 00:45:53,795 The Egyptians thought it was caused by a wandering womb. 397 00:45:54,046 --> 00:45:57,090 The Greeks blamed sexual deprivation. 398 00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:01,178 Sigmund Freud? Repressed memories. 399 00:46:01,637 --> 00:46:08,769 Some lessons of childhood can become the source of illness which has no discoverable basis in physical condition. 400 00:46:09,019 --> 00:46:14,525 Today what we'd like to do is to demonstrate the mechanism known as conversion reaction. 401 00:46:15,275 --> 00:46:20,322 Our patient is a young woman, she had some rather puzzling symptoms. 402 00:46:22,199 --> 00:46:27,579 We now call hysteria “functional disorder” or “conversion disorder,” 403 00:46:27,955 --> 00:46:32,167 which is what I was originally diagnosed with. 404 00:46:36,547 --> 00:46:42,469 I hear from women all of the time who were later diagnosed with fibromyalgia, 405 00:46:42,803 --> 00:46:48,934 lyme disease, lupus, who were initially told they were hypochondriacs. 406 00:46:49,184 --> 00:46:53,856 80% of autoimmune disease patients are women. 407 00:46:54,481 --> 00:46:57,985 I can’t help but wonder if that’s why we’re disbelieved. 408 00:46:58,235 --> 00:47:01,738 Feelings of more than usual tiredness, nervousness, and discomfort 409 00:47:01,989 --> 00:47:07,119 it suggests emotional difficulties which the patient herself does not understand. 410 00:47:08,829 --> 00:47:14,126 The problem with psychosomatic diagnoses is that they can never be proven. 411 00:47:14,585 --> 00:47:21,175 They are names we give to illnesses when we can’t find a biological cause but that doesn’t mean there isn't one. 412 00:47:22,009 --> 00:47:24,678 The patient, as you can see, is a rather dependent girl. 413 00:47:24,928 --> 00:47:31,143 A girl who under many circumstances cannot admit to angry feelings. 414 00:47:32,394 --> 00:47:38,317 This is the story we tell until doctors can see our disease from the outside. 415 00:47:39,693 --> 00:47:46,700 MS was called hysterical paralysis right up to the day they invented a CAT scan machine. 416 00:47:47,826 --> 00:47:53,707 Because now we had the capacity to look at the brain and see those great big white spots of demyelination. 417 00:47:53,957 --> 00:47:56,543 So it went from hysterical to real. 418 00:47:59,129 --> 00:48:03,091 >> Jennifer: We used to institutionalize women with hysteria. 419 00:48:08,514 --> 00:48:13,477 It’s always tempting to look at the past as something strange and distant, 420 00:48:13,727 --> 00:48:16,855 to say “thank god we know better now.” 421 00:48:21,902 --> 00:48:29,618 But what I could never have imagined, had I not gotten this disease, is that we’re still doing this. 422 00:51:02,479 --> 00:51:12,322 In Denmark the health authorities do not recognize ME as a physical disease. 423 00:51:12,573 --> 00:51:15,909 They say it is a psychiatric disease. 424 00:53:15,529 --> 00:53:20,659 Karina is only being seen by the psychiatric doctors that took her away from her parents. 425 00:53:20,993 --> 00:53:24,538 She's not been allowed to be seen by any other doctors. 426 00:53:24,788 --> 00:53:26,999 That's where the fight really started. 427 00:53:27,875 --> 00:53:31,587 >>Jennifer: When I first heard of this story I could hardly believe it. 428 00:53:33,046 --> 00:53:40,137 But I learned that in many countries doctors have been removing severe patients from their homes for decades. 429 00:53:40,804 --> 00:53:43,056 This is their general idea: 430 00:53:43,307 --> 00:53:47,019 your symptoms are being caused by false beliefs you have about your illness. 431 00:53:48,437 --> 00:53:53,066 Your parents indulge these beliefs, and this has kept you sick. 432 00:53:53,317 --> 00:53:58,572 So removing you from their influence is the only way you can get better. 433 00:54:01,033 --> 00:54:03,952 Do you know what you were accused of? 434 00:55:55,606 --> 00:56:02,029 Maybe it's harder to see the harm when it's caused by good intentions. 435 00:56:09,328 --> 00:56:15,209 When my neurologist diagnosed me, he said my symptoms were caused by a distant trauma. 436 00:56:15,834 --> 00:56:19,463 One I might not even remember. 437 00:56:26,428 --> 00:56:34,686 So I walked home in spite of the pain in my legs, the burning in my brain. 438 00:56:38,315 --> 00:56:47,866 My body was screaming but I ignored it because he told me, 'this has no biological cause.' 439 00:56:52,746 --> 00:56:55,374 As soon as I walked through the door I collapsed. 440 00:56:57,417 --> 00:57:01,839 That was the last time I ever walked that far. 441 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,347 I used to be angry 442 00:57:10,597 --> 00:57:13,475 maybe I still am 443 00:57:13,725 --> 00:57:17,563 but I believe my doctor wanted to help. 444 00:57:18,522 --> 00:57:24,027 When medicine has no answers for you, where do you turn? 445 00:57:24,570 --> 00:57:29,449 I have the cure to mother-freaking-chronic fatigue. 446 00:57:29,867 --> 00:57:34,830 I cured my Chronic Fatigue with a high carb vegan diet in three days. 447 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,040 Started eating the good foods, the whole foods. 448 00:57:37,291 --> 00:57:39,835 Balance your chemistry, acid alkaline balance. 449 00:57:40,085 --> 00:57:43,547 Two dietary supplements uh that can really really help. 450 00:57:49,344 --> 00:57:52,014 It's like a space alien. 451 00:57:54,516 --> 00:57:56,476 The lightning process changed my life. 452 00:57:56,727 --> 00:57:59,062 I've been tapping a lot. 453 00:57:59,313 --> 00:58:01,565 I take magnesium every day. 454 00:58:06,904 --> 00:58:11,283 I don't really know what's going on but something I'm taking it feels like it's working. 455 00:58:11,533 --> 00:58:15,329 Of course I would never know what is was I just had five new things in. 456 00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:18,290 Oh, delicious gastro intestinal support. 457 00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:19,791 >>Jennifer: Yes! 458 00:58:20,751 --> 00:58:28,926 I feel like I'm Betty Flintstone, you know? Like this is some crazy prehistoric dinosaur food. 459 00:58:29,343 --> 00:58:31,470 Whoa! 460 00:58:34,431 --> 00:58:42,898 Though my husband is sort of thinking a little bit about fecal transplants and up self administered hookworm, 461 00:58:44,525 --> 00:58:54,201 I think even I have certain lines that I at least at this point in time am not quite ready to cross. 462 00:59:00,165 --> 00:59:04,419 It's like the craziest high school science experiment you've ever done. 463 00:59:05,003 --> 00:59:13,595 It's just technical enough to feel like, wow I'm doing something kind of novel and scientific. 464 00:59:13,846 --> 00:59:21,687 So, the goal is to basically stun the worms and they drop out of your gut. 465 00:59:28,193 --> 00:59:33,073 A few months ago I started avoiding really small amounts of toxic mold 466 00:59:33,323 --> 00:59:35,617 and since then my exercise intolerance has disappeared. 467 00:59:35,868 --> 00:59:38,954 l’m trying to avoid mold at all costs. 468 00:59:39,204 --> 00:59:43,542 There is quite a bit of evidence of toxicity of mold. 469 00:59:44,334 --> 00:59:48,463 I started hearing from more and more people who were seeing huge improvements 470 00:59:48,714 --> 00:59:53,302 by leaving their homes and going to drier climates. 471 01:00:03,187 --> 01:00:08,984 >>Omar: Will strategically reducing my mold exposure make me a better lover? 472 01:00:09,318 --> 01:00:11,612 Are you okay with this? 473 01:00:12,863 --> 01:00:14,406 I'm okay with this. 474 01:00:14,656 --> 01:00:17,784 But you think it's gotten a little crazy. This is you letting off a little steam. 475 01:00:18,035 --> 01:00:23,498 There's no way to approach this except as crazy 476 01:00:23,749 --> 01:00:30,255 but just because it's crazy doesn't mean it's wrong - but there's no doubt that it's crazy. 477 01:00:32,341 --> 01:00:34,551 I know. 478 01:00:36,845 --> 01:00:38,597 >>Jennifer: Love, I'm walking! >>Omar: Yeah. 479 01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:45,604 >>On the path! >>Omar: Yeah. >>Like, just 'cause- it's... 480 01:00:48,106 --> 01:00:49,316 Easy trigger. 481 01:00:51,193 --> 01:00:53,820 You gotta come back up that. Don’t… don't- 482 01:01:20,013 --> 01:01:22,057 >>Omar: What can I do? 483 01:01:22,724 --> 01:01:24,268 Outside. 484 01:01:32,317 --> 01:01:34,111 Feeling better? 485 01:01:34,570 --> 01:01:37,906 A little. I know this seems really hard and I mean it is but like 486 01:01:38,156 --> 01:01:40,534 just think of the gift that we live here and that there's space. 487 01:01:40,784 --> 01:01:43,579 How is that a gift if it makes you sick? 488 01:01:43,912 --> 01:01:46,290 You know it doesn't just touch clothes, it doesn't just touch the car, 489 01:01:46,540 --> 01:01:49,877 it doesn't just touch the house, it doesn't just touch like where we live. 490 01:01:50,127 --> 01:01:55,132 Like it potentially touches every aspect of our lives and that's scary to me. 491 01:01:55,757 --> 01:02:02,723 If you could have the signals that I have for like an hour, I feel like everything would change. 492 01:02:03,682 --> 01:02:12,816 Right, and conversely, if you lived with this total absence of these signals you would feel insane 493 01:02:13,066 --> 01:02:19,615 every time you are making some great adjustment in your life for something that is- 494 01:02:19,865 --> 01:02:23,702 You can't see or touch or taste or experience. Totally invisible. 495 01:02:45,390 --> 01:02:47,184 Definitely do not go inside. 496 01:02:47,434 --> 01:02:47,851 Okay, you see- 497 01:02:48,101 --> 01:02:50,229 Or get too close honestly. 498 01:02:51,522 --> 01:02:54,358 That's an impossible request to not get too close to it. 499 01:02:54,608 --> 01:02:57,194 Well I mean I'm saying you could like be wearing mold free clothes when you're around the tent. 500 01:02:57,444 --> 01:02:58,737 Why don't I take off all my clothes? 501 01:02:58,987 --> 01:03:03,534 - Yeah, do that! - So there's a hook. There's a hook here. - I'm trying to be serious, love. 502 01:03:04,910 --> 01:03:08,914 And I'm trying to be serious. There's no way for me to not touch the tent and assemble the tent. 503 01:03:09,164 --> 01:03:12,000 I think what I'm trying to say is that I realize being in mold free clothes 504 01:03:12,251 --> 01:03:16,964 is probably better for interacting with our home. 505 01:03:19,132 --> 01:03:21,343 Would you mind changing? 506 01:03:21,593 --> 01:03:25,597 Into what? Like these were mold free. You sniffed these. These were mold free. 507 01:03:25,848 --> 01:03:27,391 Yeah, but you went inside the house. 508 01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:34,106 I don't want you to change into mold free clothes. I wanted you to change to clothes you can wear in the house. 509 01:03:34,439 --> 01:03:39,111 I cannot change clothes every time I walk in and outside the house. That is, that is- 510 01:03:39,611 --> 01:03:42,573 In our new house or my new house at least 511 01:03:42,948 --> 01:03:46,493 you have to be very careful otherwise you have to buy this tent and do it all over again which is kind of silly. 512 01:03:46,743 --> 01:03:48,120 What do you want me to do right now? 513 01:03:48,370 --> 01:03:51,707 I think you should probably shower and put on new clothes. 514 01:03:51,957 --> 01:03:56,461 Okay. Well then you're on your own for now. 515 01:03:56,712 --> 01:03:58,881 I really don't make the rules. 516 01:03:59,131 --> 01:04:02,009 You have to appreciate it feels insane. 517 01:04:02,426 --> 01:04:05,387 Like I changed my clothes an hour ago. Now I'm changing them again. 518 01:04:05,804 --> 01:04:09,641 It's a little maddening. I'll just avoid you like I'm the plague. 519 01:04:33,832 --> 01:04:39,379 I used to think if I looked hard enough I was going to find a cure 520 01:04:40,088 --> 01:04:43,258 and I have found a lot of things that have helped. 521 01:04:43,509 --> 01:04:48,430 The antivirals, mold avoidance, even some of the supplements; 522 01:04:49,097 --> 01:04:52,184 but l’m not going to figure this out on my own. 523 01:04:52,434 --> 01:04:57,981 Inside every cell there's there's your energy making machine. It's called the mitochondria. 524 01:04:58,941 --> 01:05:04,446 So in this illness, each individual cell can have real problems capturing the 525 01:05:04,696 --> 01:05:09,368 things they need that your body uses to make energy like oxygen and glucose. 526 01:05:09,952 --> 01:05:14,665 At a cellular level you become less and less effective like a wound down clock. 527 01:05:18,460 --> 01:05:22,297 >> Jennifer: If our neurons don’t have enough energy we can’t think. 528 01:05:23,423 --> 01:05:27,594 If our immune cells don’t have enough energy we can’t fight viruses. 529 01:05:29,096 --> 01:05:32,724 And if our muscles don’t have enough energy we can’t move. 530 01:05:35,018 --> 01:05:40,941 But where you can really see it is when we crash after physical or mental exertion. 531 01:05:42,901 --> 01:05:45,904 Our cells give out and all of our symptoms flare. 532 01:05:48,866 --> 01:05:53,871 Dr. Klimas's team can actually track this crash point on a metabolic level. 533 01:05:54,788 --> 01:05:56,790 >> Dr. Klimas: There's two different kinds of energy. 534 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:02,045 There's aerobic energy and there's anaerobic energy that you get from the cell itself. 535 01:06:02,296 --> 01:06:07,676 We teach people how to stay in that tiny little space of aerobic. And it is little. 536 01:06:07,926 --> 01:06:10,971 Sometimes it's two minutes, sometimes it's three minutes of effort. 537 01:06:12,222 --> 01:06:15,559 You can safely operate in this space without crashing. 538 01:06:18,687 --> 01:06:22,816 The minute that you go into the anaerobic space and you ask the cells to make energy 539 01:06:23,066 --> 01:06:25,944 you're in big trouble because you don't have it. 540 01:06:26,486 --> 01:06:31,366 >>Jennifer: I think this is half the reason this disease is so hard to understand. 541 01:06:33,619 --> 01:06:40,459 Why someone like me can be walking one moment and look completely normal 542 01:06:42,294 --> 01:06:45,672 and then a few hours later crash in bed for days. 543 01:06:48,509 --> 01:06:52,638 I feel like l’m this broken battery that’s stuck at 10%. 544 01:06:54,640 --> 01:07:00,270 And when we crash, we disappear, so you never see us at our worst. 545 01:07:03,357 --> 01:07:08,654 I was amazed to find out how many questions we’ve never really asked. 546 01:07:08,987 --> 01:07:11,490 Why do more women get it? 547 01:07:12,157 --> 01:07:14,451 Is it genetic? 548 01:07:14,701 --> 01:07:20,290 And why thirty years into it are we still no closer to a cure? 549 01:07:38,141 --> 01:07:40,519 Hey, how are you doing? 550 01:07:40,769 --> 01:07:47,568 Oh, good. This is kind of amazing type of interview. Yeah. 551 01:07:48,026 --> 01:07:51,113 You've spent your life tackling really hard problems. 552 01:07:51,363 --> 01:07:56,243 Why has it been so hard to figure out what's going on in patients like me? 553 01:07:56,493 --> 01:08:00,414 What's usually hard about a problem is that you often have to take 554 01:08:00,664 --> 01:08:04,209 a very different perspective than what is conventional. 555 01:08:05,335 --> 01:08:09,173 I look on trying to figure out if CFS as one of the most difficult things 556 01:08:09,423 --> 01:08:10,924 I've ever tried to tackle. 557 01:08:13,260 --> 01:08:17,556 CFS is an extremely complicated disease involving the immune system 558 01:08:17,806 --> 01:08:20,809 and the brain and who knows what else. 559 01:08:22,102 --> 01:08:24,479 We're studying a very small population of severely ill patients 560 01:08:24,730 --> 01:08:29,359 and we're collecting billions of data points on each patient. 561 01:08:30,777 --> 01:08:33,864 We're probably collecting more data on an individual 562 01:08:34,114 --> 01:08:36,366 than has ever been collected for any disease in history. 563 01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:44,625 I've teamed up with really superb scientists. Three of them have a Nobel Prize. 564 01:08:45,584 --> 01:08:49,087 In two/three months we'll have some data to sit at the table and look at- not publish- 565 01:08:49,338 --> 01:08:52,508 just you know some of the data to look at. That would be real. 566 01:08:53,175 --> 01:08:56,678 Almost exclusively the organization that funds medical research 567 01:08:56,929 --> 01:08:59,056 is the National Institutes of Health. 568 01:08:59,556 --> 01:09:04,978 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is the lowest funded of any major disease by a lot. 569 01:09:08,649 --> 01:09:14,655 Many of the people that are at NIH and have in the past not believed it's real. 570 01:09:14,905 --> 01:09:17,741 So why would you fund something that's not real? 571 01:09:19,201 --> 01:09:22,663 I've written two applications to the National Institutes of Health. 572 01:09:23,121 --> 01:09:26,124 Both of them were turned down without review. 573 01:09:26,375 --> 01:09:29,628 We have to attempt every door at NIH. 574 01:09:29,878 --> 01:09:35,050 If we get shut out from every door then the only recourse we have is go to Congress. 575 01:09:49,231 --> 01:09:54,236 This is what’s called TPN: total peripheral nutrition. 576 01:09:55,362 --> 01:09:58,574 And that’s all he gets for food. 577 01:10:01,118 --> 01:10:04,371 The speech center gets affected. 578 01:10:06,373 --> 01:10:09,626 It's probably been a year since he's talked. 579 01:10:28,312 --> 01:10:31,982 He loved traveling and taking photographs. 580 01:10:33,317 --> 01:10:38,405 One day he asked us to take his camera out of his room. 581 01:10:39,114 --> 01:10:45,329 And then he motioned for me to let him hold it for a minute. 582 01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:53,879 And he just hugged his camera and then told it goodbye and I took it out of the room. 583 01:11:07,726 --> 01:11:11,021 He was my best friend. 584 01:11:11,271 --> 01:11:15,359 It's hard to find somebody that knows you like your sibling does when you're close like that. 585 01:11:30,082 --> 01:11:33,752 >> Janet: March 26th, 1990. 586 01:12:16,086 --> 01:12:19,089 I got to try to rewrite this grant and put it in again. 587 01:12:19,464 --> 01:12:22,384 >>Janet: I just found myself getting pissed off. 588 01:12:22,634 --> 01:12:28,140 All these people are clamoring for funding and they tell you no for the stupidest reasons. 589 01:12:28,473 --> 01:12:33,020 I think they'll come around. I just worry how long it's going to take to come around. 590 01:12:33,270 --> 01:12:37,941 >>Janet: Well maybe we should tell them we'd like them to come around before our son is dead. 591 01:12:38,192 --> 01:12:40,736 Yes. 592 01:12:45,282 --> 01:12:48,285 >>Ron: I'm working against the clock. 593 01:12:48,994 --> 01:12:51,330 How much time does he have? 594 01:12:52,456 --> 01:12:58,003 Will it get to the point where some of his organs start shutting down or something like that? I worry about that. 595 01:13:04,134 --> 01:13:08,972 >> Janet: Sometimes I just dream that that door opens and he walks out the door. 596 01:13:10,432 --> 01:13:15,687 One of the highest death rate from CFS is suicide, 597 01:13:15,938 --> 01:13:22,069 which really really scares me because I don't want him gone before they figure out a way to help him. 598 01:13:30,118 --> 01:13:37,417 I can't do it for much longer. 599 01:13:38,585 --> 01:13:40,587 I don't... 600 01:13:44,967 --> 01:13:47,469 It's like I'm just watching my life disappear. 601 01:13:49,388 --> 01:13:54,393 I'm watching everybody else grow up and do all the things that people do when they grow up. 602 01:13:55,394 --> 01:14:01,191 I just spend all my life in fucking - in a house watching the world just pass. 603 01:14:41,231 --> 01:14:44,067 >>Jennifer: We’ve lost so many people. 604 01:14:46,820 --> 01:14:53,410 I hear stories of other children ripped from their home by police. 605 01:15:00,375 --> 01:15:04,254 l’ve lost friends to suicide. 606 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:12,304 l’ve had friends who were doing okay and then just got worse. 607 01:15:15,849 --> 01:15:20,270 Sickness doesn’t terrify me and death doesn’t terrify me. 608 01:15:22,814 --> 01:15:30,531 What terrifies me is that you can disappear because someone’s telling the wrong story about you. 609 01:15:32,366 --> 01:15:37,913 I feel like that’s what’s happened to all of us who are living this. 610 01:15:43,043 --> 01:15:55,055 And I remember thinking, there’s no one coming to look for me because no one even knows that I went missing. 611 01:16:02,187 --> 01:16:04,815 All of those things... 612 01:16:05,065 --> 01:16:13,866 Those things, those… really simple things. 613 01:16:19,454 --> 01:16:27,337 Not realizing how fragile they were because you never do. 614 01:16:28,714 --> 01:16:31,967 You never do. 615 01:16:38,348 --> 01:16:41,101 That life was gone. 616 01:16:44,396 --> 01:16:47,274 But here I had this new one. 617 01:16:50,402 --> 01:16:52,196 And I had to fight for it. 618 01:16:53,572 --> 01:16:57,034 Hello everyone, welcome! I think we'll probably have more 619 01:16:57,284 --> 01:16:59,077 people joining us um in then next minute or two. 620 01:16:59,328 --> 01:17:03,332 I'm fromthe Netherlands. I'm here with Annette, I think? 621 01:17:03,582 --> 01:17:05,834 Hi, Sebastian, I'm from Hamburg. 622 01:17:06,084 --> 01:17:09,338 In South Africa we're very much behind. 623 01:17:09,588 --> 01:17:12,716 The doctor's really have zero clues, you know, they don't know anything yet. 624 01:17:12,966 --> 01:17:17,721 We're kind of both organizing a day of protest as well as organizing individual protests. 625 01:17:18,096 --> 01:17:21,975 People obviously are going to find it very hard to get to this protest. 626 01:17:22,643 --> 01:17:26,146 I'm not somebody who's ever done protests before. I have no energy to do one. 627 01:17:26,396 --> 01:17:31,360 You can still be out there in- especially if you've got a wheelchair that reclines 628 01:17:31,610 --> 01:17:33,737 but also in a lawn chair- 629 01:17:34,696 --> 01:17:42,204 >> Jennifer:The only way anything is ever going to change is if people can see us. 630 01:20:20,779 --> 01:20:26,034 It's alright, it’s ok, I'm feeling brave gonna face this day 631 01:20:26,285 --> 01:20:31,748 It's ok, it’s alright no tears will kiss my cheeks tonight 632 01:20:31,999 --> 01:20:37,212 it’s all good, and l’m just fine my words ring out like hollow shells 633 01:20:37,462 --> 01:20:43,177 should slow down, it takes time but time moves slow I know this well 634 01:20:43,427 --> 01:20:47,806 and my heart breaks one thousand times a day 635 01:20:48,724 --> 01:20:52,519 but for every hope that dies another one takes its place 636 01:20:52,769 --> 01:20:59,318 because I have the strength of a mountain l’ve got the courage of the deep blue sea 637 01:20:59,568 --> 01:21:05,657 and I have the heart of a lion and the stars burn bright inside of me 638 01:21:05,908 --> 01:21:13,916 and although you test me my God I stand so proudly can’t you see that I have the strength of a mountain 639 01:21:14,166 --> 01:21:17,336 and l’II take all you throw at me 640 01:21:17,586 --> 01:21:22,132 I'm here on behalf of my son Gordon who is 22. 641 01:21:22,382 --> 01:21:25,636 He's been sick since he was twelve. 642 01:21:25,886 --> 01:21:30,516 We're live in Dallas, Texas for Millions Missing for ME CFS. 643 01:21:33,352 --> 01:21:40,275 We're on our way to Millions Missing protest in Lansing. We stayed at the hotel last night. 644 01:21:40,526 --> 01:21:44,446 Hey everybody! We're here in Melbourne, Australia- 645 01:21:52,162 --> 01:21:59,378 If our governments across the world today do not see us, do not take action on this crisis, 646 01:21:59,628 --> 01:22:03,465 then this pattern is due to repeat itself. 647 01:22:05,092 --> 01:22:10,681 I have the strength of a mountain I've got the courage of the deep blue sea 648 01:22:10,931 --> 01:22:16,687 I have the heart of a lion and the stars they burn bright inside of me 649 01:22:16,937 --> 01:22:23,026 and although you test me my God I stand so proudly can't you see 650 01:22:23,277 --> 01:22:29,616 I have the strength of a mountain and l’II take all you throw at me 651 01:22:46,592 --> 01:22:52,723 >> Omar:Every time you do something you love I know you're going to end up paying for it. 652 01:22:54,808 --> 01:22:57,144 >>> All: Thank you! 653 01:22:57,394 --> 01:23:01,940 >> Omar: But I also know that's what makes you feel alive. 654 01:23:02,191 --> 01:23:04,776 Bye! Nice to see you all! 655 01:23:07,321 --> 01:23:12,451 I know you keep saying not to think of it like this but I just feel like I'm like robbing you 656 01:23:12,701 --> 01:23:21,460 and I'm hurting you and I think that's just really hard and... 657 01:23:21,710 --> 01:23:27,341 >> Omar: All I can tell you, love, is I am so grateful that you are in my life. 658 01:23:27,799 --> 01:23:39,186 You know if I can talk to you? If I can like hold you tight? I'm good. 659 01:23:59,706 --> 01:24:03,001 >> Randy: I remember the first time I saw you, you were getting out of the car. 660 01:24:03,252 --> 01:24:06,713 Your mom was in the car with you. >> Leeray: Yeah. 661 01:24:06,964 --> 01:24:11,176 And I thought how cute you were. Wholesome. 662 01:24:13,512 --> 01:24:18,392 >> Leeray: Randy! Come help. Don't just record you sitting over there. 663 01:24:19,643 --> 01:24:23,522 >> Randy: When I left I honestly, honestly thought you would get better. 664 01:24:23,897 --> 01:24:29,361 I thought that at this point if I'm gone I'm not a crutch for her 665 01:24:30,237 --> 01:24:33,073 and she'll have to get better because she'll have to. 666 01:24:33,490 --> 01:24:38,245 I felt like if I took care of you guys financially that everything would work out for you guys 667 01:24:38,495 --> 01:24:39,288 and ya'll would wind up being happier. 668 01:24:39,538 --> 01:24:41,999 And I made choices that I regret. 669 01:24:42,249 --> 01:24:50,215 And uh I don't know if there's enough life left in me to make it up to you but I will try. 670 01:25:46,897 --> 01:25:49,483 >> Jessica: My ME goes up and down. 671 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,363 I spend most days in bed. 672 01:25:58,492 --> 01:26:03,664 Life doesn't just stop because you've got severe ME. 673 01:26:11,839 --> 01:26:19,763 So even though I've been stuck in a room or my parameters are so small, I've still lived. 674 01:26:20,681 --> 01:26:21,723 Is it recording? 675 01:26:21,974 --> 01:26:29,273 Yep. Woo! 676 01:26:42,494 --> 01:26:47,708 >> Jennifer: Before I got sick, every book I read, every movie I saw said, 677 01:26:47,958 --> 01:26:53,714 "when you fall ill, either you will find the cure or die trying." 678 01:26:55,841 --> 01:26:58,510 It always ends in triumph or tragedy 679 01:27:00,137 --> 01:27:02,806 But that’s not my story. 680 01:27:03,056 --> 01:27:05,851 At least not yet. 681 01:27:11,899 --> 01:27:14,484 - Jennifer can you hear me? - Yeah I can. 682 01:27:14,902 --> 01:27:20,365 Alright can you see a framing? Alright, I'm rolling. 683 01:27:25,829 --> 01:27:29,291 There's the sun. 684 01:27:43,764 --> 01:27:47,976 And somehow it's almost as good as actually being there. 685 01:27:57,653 --> 01:28:00,948 This is so beautiful. 686 01:28:03,867 --> 01:28:06,411 This is incredible. I don't even... 687 01:28:25,222 --> 01:28:29,309 You have to be able to hold two things in your head. 688 01:28:31,895 --> 01:28:37,025 This illness destroyed my life. 689 01:28:40,946 --> 01:28:46,577 But what it showed me, I could never give that back. 690 01:29:02,092 --> 01:29:07,222 I want to be well. I want to wake up tomorrow and be well. 691 01:29:08,515 --> 01:29:14,229 And yet I am grateful for every inch of my life. 692 01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:24,156 I am still here. I am still here. 693 01:29:30,245 --> 01:29:39,922 There is no end to this story 694 01:29:42,174 --> 01:29:54,895 no final blow or glory 695 01:29:56,855 --> 01:30:08,700 love came here and never left 696 01:30:09,368 --> 01:30:18,585 now that my heart is open 697 01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:34,726 it can be closed or broken 698 01:30:35,310 --> 01:30:45,904 love came here and never left 699 01:30:48,407 --> 01:30:59,710 now I have to live with loving you forever 700 01:31:12,181 --> 01:31:15,434 What are you doing? 66376

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