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You're just gonna stand here and slap me around if he doesn't answer?

Asshole.

You should.

I'm about to interrogate the man who... terrorized Iraq for 23

years. There had been talk of Saddam Hussein being tried in absentia.

Invaded Kuwait, fought against Iran.

The man who, six days after taking power, called an emergency session of

the Ba'ath Party.

In front of TV cameras, he declared that there are 68 conspirators here among us.

They were all then marched to the door and then to their swift execution.

That became the Saddam manifesto death awaits you if you don't stand with me

Say the show stick Father look out sit

Like he's the boss please

Mr. President, you're a prisoner of the coalition provisional authority, and you

need to answer my questions.

Is that clear?

We're not interested in threats, so... Who are you?

You can call me Steve.

This is Ali. So, I have questions... How are you?

Well,

thank you.

Yes, continue, please.

So, Mr.

President, we're wondering how did you contact the insurgency? Was there an

intermediary?

We don't really understand.

He's asking for your hand.

So we didn't find any radio transmission equipment at the farm, so we're

wondering how...

How did you contact the insurgency?

There are no insurgents,

only freedom fighters.

Please?

Don't. Nixon knows he can't do that.

Son of a bitch.

Hold, hold, hold, hold, hold.

What the hell is he doing?

He had money.

What, while you were hiding?

750,000 American dollars.

U.S. soldiers say this.

So it's a lot of cash. It's a big bag of money.

They lie.

I, President Saddam Hussein, hereby testify that at the time of my capture

by those enemies of God and humanity, the American imperialists, that I was in

possession of $1.5 million.

It was $750,000.

Soldiers steal my money.

He's demanding an official investigation.

God damn it.

I told him no contact.

He wants his money from those thieves.

We'll investigate.

Mr. President, please, I have to ask for my pen back.

Can I keep?

I write every day.

I'm familiar.

You've published three novels, right?

He's written a fourth one as well, but it should have been in print by now.

I've read it.

Fortified castle.

More than

700 pages.

Epic work. He's very impressed that you've read it. It's a very nice story.

Mr. President, please, I have to ask for my pad back.

Now, let's discuss in the way that you contacted the insurgents, because we

don't believe that you were isolated.

To remind you of the obvious fact that you're

president of nothing.

You're a prisoner of the Coalition Provisional Authority.

Why answer?

You my enemy.

You my enemy, you will kill me.

That will happen. No.

Time for prayers.

No, it's not.

Sit down, please.

Article 38,

third paragraph, gives me the right to pray.

We'll give you prayer time. So please sit down.

He's talking about his latest book that will explain everything that's going on

at the moment, historically and culturally.

We're not here to discuss literature or history.

Then how you understand anything?

He's got what he wanted. He filed the claim.

God damn it, Nixon. You were told not to hand anything to the prisoner.

He made a request, not a demand, you know? It was an opening. Yeah, some

opening, John.

It was a pen, not a Bowie knife.

All those pleas and thank you, Mr. President, are very romantic.

We don't need his love and respect.

Just his WMDs.

It's a dumb plagiarism.

Because of your insubordination, he filed a written complaint.

This is bullshit.

I don't believe anybody would steal $750,000.

Well, it doesn't matter what you believe.

He's filed an official complaint.

Look, this is what Saddam does, okay?

He manipulates people.

This is the first meeting. We're getting to know each other.

Just be careful.

That is great.

You got something to say to me? What?

You got something to say?

I'm not sure I can do this.

I'm not sure I'm the guy.

Hey, I understand how you feel. Really? You understand how I feel?

Yeah. How do you understand how I feel?

How do I feel? Tell me how I feel.

You don't know how I feel, okay? You don't know how I feel.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Saddam Hussein was everywhere, on all the billboards.

Every morning in school, we had to praise him. Every evening, he was on the

TV. Every night, he walks in my, in all Iraqi streets.

And now, standing next to him in that room, I can smell him on my clothes.

He'll be gone in six months anyway.

He can't do anything to you.

Sorry, Polly.

I lose my head when I talk about Sudan.

You see that smoke?

Slow down, Samir.

Doyle was ahead of us.

Major. Major.

Hey. What are you doing?

Move this way, soldier.

Oh, my God.

Stay with me.

He's alive!

Look at me.

You're going to be okay.

Help, help, help.

Major,

hey, hey, look at me.

I'm with you.

Major, you're going to be okay.

Feel numb.

He'll make it.

Just out of spite, he'll make it. You know that, boy.

Mira, you're on the morning shift.

I'll get some sleep.

I'm not going anywhere.

So, any news?

He's gonna make it.

Oh.

Yeah.

Good stuff.

Here's everyone?

Yeah. Yeah.

I want him.

Still only for those Springsteen tickets in 95.

You still owe me for the Redskins tickets from last year.

What's yours to Doyle?

To Doyle.

To Doyle.

Asshole. That too.

I want everything perfect.

Hello?

Hi, it's me.

Oh, John, I was just thinking about you. Yeah?

So, what are you thinking about? I was just thinking that Santa wants to know

if you've been naughty or nice, but... I want to know if you'll be nice and

naughty. I heard that.

How's my boy?

Is he moving in? What the hell is happening?

He's helping me decorate.

I can't wait for you to get here. It's going to be a white Christmas.

Honey.

Listen,

something's come up and I'm going to have to stay a while longer.

I'm so disappointed.

Every day on the news, we see people getting killed.

I hate you being there.

To be honest, I did volunteer to help some soldiers hanging up Christmas

lights, and I fell off the ladder.

You get hurt?

What happened?

Oh, John fell hanging Christmas lights.

Oh, that's typical.

That's John.

Yeah.

Not a word about my condition, you promised.

Call me soon.

Well, I guess no eggnog for you.

Hey, Pops, thanks so much for helping out with Bex. I really appreciate it.

We'll see how long I got to stay, but I'm not sure right now. You do what you

got to do, and I'll look after her. Okay. Thank you.

Guess on the bright side, I have more presents for me.

John yeah coffee.

I saw Doyle this morning. It looks like a mummy big-ass mummy

He's staying with him really made a difference.

Oh, yeah John Nixon That's Winthrop bad bad FBI

chief Hey Good morning.

So what have you achieved so far?

So far we only had One session, nothing much to note, really.

Feeling out of process.

The less Saddam says, the better.

Anything he says is substance, we'll have to document.

And that's not what we want?

They have to appear in court.

That's the last thing we want.

So talk to Saddam by all means, but remember, your mission, the century,

says absolutely nothing incriminating.

Keep Saddam warm until our guys get here and ready to take over so we can try and

then convict him.

Sir, what are you saying?

My guys will be here any day now.

Okay.

I mean, he did file a written complaint.

Some missing money.

That would be problematic.

If only the statement hadn't been lost.

So you don't care if it's true?

The truth is a blur.

Tell me, how are we to know for certain how much money was ever actually there?

Did he inflate the amount? Does it even matter?

Whose truth is it?

You visited on the drive?

No.

It is.

It is.

No sleep.

They play music loud.

I'll look into that, all right? Look, we're here to talk about your weapons

program. So, the center, we have that information. We can discuss your

situation, okay?

It's definitely in the interest of the Iraqi people that you answer my

question. You're here for Iraqi people?

In a sense, the outcome is definitely going to benefit them.

Will President Bush read this? Yes. He's aware of this conversation.

Bush.

Ask.

Well, the key piece of information that could save thousands of lives is where

are your chemical and biological weapons located?

Where they always are.

Where's that?

Your president's mind.

with UN who came to Iraq looking for chemical, biological, nuclear weapons.

Why no one find anything?

You had these weapons, Salam.

You've used them. After September 11th. You've been here for nine months.

What did you find? You want peace?

Go home!

Ali, it's okay.

He's not going anywhere.

I don't see the funny part. They're gonna watch this tape in Washington.

All lives together.

No Saddam to protect.

Al-Qaeda will enter.

Shia will want honesty.

Akrad will want also.

You released all the evil.

But you cannot contain them.

No.

You bring me bush, I talk.

You no bring bush, I sleep.

Open up.

Damn it.

What are you doing in there, John?

Saddam has you dancing around in circles.

They kept him up all night.

Everybody's watching.

The White House, seventh floor.

Yeah. Yeah, Stilwell set you up. I know the stakes, all right?

All right? He's not some insurgent and upgrade, you know.

Saddam Hussein.

You don't break him with sleep deprivation and Metallica.

Hussein. Okay, then you better figure it out.

Yeah, I'm trying to get something real.

I warned you not to volunteer and just get him to talk.

Find an angle.

He says bless you.

Mr.

President, I have a question that's more from my own personal curiosity than

anything else. You knew that you couldn't defeat the U.S. Army, right? So

why didn't you cooperate?

What did you expect was going to happen?

You interested in history?

A little bit, yeah.

What came before Saddam Hussein?

You're referring to the military dictatorship?

No. Before the monarchy.

Who gave this monarchy power?

The British.

You see?

A nation of scholars.

Before Saddam Hussein, three-quarters of Iraq cannot read.

When the British take Baghdad from the Ottomans.

You know what their general said?

Our armies do not come as enemies or conquerors, but as liberators.

Sound familiar?

A little bit, yeah.

Doesn't he know this is a frickin' interrogation, not a Q&A?

For the revolution, the Iraqis were running around... Kandar Saddam.

Health care.

Security.

Schools, roads, electricity.

So you're saying that to understand your leadership, we got to go back like 100

years? 1,000 years.

So teach me.

Iraq teach the world to write, okay?

Maps, clocks, mathematics.

First chemical industry.

First written law.

All right, I'm done with history lessons, Professor.

He's very misunderstood.

Then you know how I feel.

What the hell do you think you're doing? I was connecting with him. What are you

doing?

Huh? What's next? Johnny Walker?

I'm going to press Jack Daniels. Hey, John, screw you.

You need answers, not ramblings. What do you suggest I do?

Just you stop cuddling him and go for the Jaguar.

Let me do my job. Just get out of my way.

Well, Stilwell, the White House, the whole world wants to know where the WMDs

are, and so do I. Yeah, well, maybe they don't exist.

So what's he gonna say?

Hey, that's all for today.

Gars took him to his cell.

Come on, John, let's go.

Go. Without me.

He's manipulating you.

We're manipulating each other. Yeah, he speaks and speaks and speaks, but he

tells you nothing.

He's not saying anything.

It's not an interrogation. It's a goddamn talk show.

It's a technique.

You know, a happy prisoner is going to be much easier to catch off guard.

John, John, you're lying. You're lying to yourself.

You want him to like you.

You want him to like you.

You don't understand what I'm trying to do. No, you don't understand.

There are two Saddam Husseins.

There's Amr Saddam, Uncle Saddam.

He likes to tell stories.

He's a funny guy. He likes kids.

And then there's Saddam Hussein.

The monster.

What are you doing? What are you turning around?

I'll show him to you.

I got lucky.

My uncle, my father, my two brothers were not.

My grandmother was only able to identify my dad.

She remembered the buttons on his coat.

At least you got some closure, right?

They were just buttons.

Could have been anyone's.

Hey, Langley.

You're looking for cheerleaders. They're about 6,000 miles that way.

Come on, man.

I'm taking my kids.

You're leaving Baghdad, huh?

Is that true?

You sure you don't want to hang around and catch some more bad guys?

Nah, man.

I'm out.

What do you say we grab a burger?

Yeah, I want to grab a burger.

Just don't show up in that country club thing again.

Saddam's regime made Halabja hell on earth.

They wiped out thousands of civilians, poisoning their own people with toxic

gas. And then there's Najat, Karbala, Basra, each one a site of mass

executions.

Saddam didn't spare his friends or family either. His cousin and Defense

Minister Ali Hassan al-Majid al-Tikriti, not his son-in-law, Hussein Kamel, both

doomed. Saddam's truth was simple. Only he could rule Iraq.

So only his life was precious.

Just cut the bullshit, Saddam.

Where are the weapons?

You no longer speak to me like president.

You're no longer president.

We're the WMDs.

You are not here for weapons.

You're here because sons live in their father's shadows.

You think Bush invaded Baghdad just because his father wouldn't do it?

Fathers and sons.

It is natural.

Okay, fine. Let's talk about your sons.

And how they abused your people.

Lies and propaganda.

You know better. Propaganda?

Your son, Uday, ripped the toenails out of a soccer player just because he lost

a game. He raped 12-year-old girls. He murdered your food taster, Kamal Hanna,

just because he introduced you to your second wife, Samira.

Saddam doesn't need help to find women.

You disrespect their memory. You disrespect me.

You never

met your real

father, right?

You never felt his affection and that he was strong?

Why? No.

Because I would not know my stepfather.

Your stepfather, he abused you, and you ran away to Baghdad to escape his abuse,

right? Lies.

Lies. Everyone knows that your stepfather abused you, just like you

abuse your people, right? So I guess it's true what you were saying. Fathers

and sons.

It makes sense.

Ibrahim Al-Hassan was a great man.

This story is about how great he was. I don't care. The truth is, Saddam, that

you and your sons committed atrocities against your own people.

Fill in the town real quick.

I just want to pick up something for my kids.

Now?

Oh, Matt, look at these toys.

Pull over, pull over.

My daughter loves camels. Look, be quick, all right?

Thank you. You gonna get you something?

I'm good.

Souvenir?

I'm good.

I've seen the graves.

I've been to Buster.

Thousands of graves in Halabja.

You guessed, 5,000 men, women, children.

I have nothing to do with this. 10,000 more got injured.

decades of cancer, pollution.

I never gave order.

One of my generals, Ali Hassan Al-Majeed. You don't control your

generals? Saddam Hussein doesn't control his generals?

Tell me about your family.

Tell me.

It was Iran.

So Khomeini can say, look, Saddam, the butcher.

Generals, Iran, everyone but you.

You want to know?

You want me to tell you where to find the most dangerous weapons in Iraq? Yes.

Fear.

Fear.

Humiliation.

Hunger.

You here bring shame to Iraq, and we will fight war against it.

Yes?

Still water.

You know humiliation you cause?

Not only every Iraqi.

We will fight for every street.

every piece of sand before we submit to your occupation.

I'm trying to end the bloodshed.

You cannot.

It's not me who tore the rug. It is you.

Not me abuse my people. It is you.

If not for Saddam Hussein, Iran now control all Arab world.

This what you want? Deal with Iran. The Iranian only understand message when he

is dead.

for nuclear-free Middle East.

You opposed it. You kept buying missile tubes. I signed nuclear non

-proliferation treaty.

Who refused?

Pakistan and your friend, Israel.

Do you understand why we need your weapons?

Of course. Because you have no other excuse to invade.

Otherwise they'll end up in the hands of terrorists.

I fight these terrorists.

I keep religion out of politics.

I fight Iranian extremists. But you attack me.

Why?

What the hell is that?

Get the hell out of this country, man. I want to see my kids.

You

hear?

They coming for me.

then it will be you in chains.