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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 The Smartest Subtitle Downloader for OSX www.FLIXTOOLS.com 2 00:00:18,418 --> 00:00:19,248 - So, these are getting 3 00:00:19,253 --> 00:00:20,193 Blown up a little bit tighter 4 00:00:20,194 --> 00:00:23,617 Than my comfort level is really into. 5 00:00:24,357 --> 00:00:25,957 - Now that all the big balloons are inflated, 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:27,690 We're moving into the small party balloons now 7 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:28,785 To make chains. 8 00:00:28,796 --> 00:00:31,126 - And everyone's gonna focus on that. 9 00:00:31,132 --> 00:00:32,832 So this team's working now. 10 00:00:32,833 --> 00:00:33,833 - We fixed it. 11 00:00:33,834 --> 00:00:34,674 We fixed the problem. 12 00:00:34,675 --> 00:00:37,038 We're gonna get liftoff. 13 00:00:37,804 --> 00:00:39,439 - Okay, you're good. 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,580 Yeah, we're gonna go out with three at a time. 15 00:00:54,454 --> 00:00:58,064 It's like the biggest game of operation and... 16 00:00:59,726 --> 00:01:02,956 - I have no idea how to start this film. 17 00:01:02,963 --> 00:01:04,863 But I actually do have 18 00:01:04,865 --> 00:01:07,225 The end all figured out. 19 00:01:08,401 --> 00:01:12,671 I'm going to attach 6,000 yellow balloons to myself. 20 00:01:13,540 --> 00:01:17,740 And then I'm gonna take off against the blue sky. 21 00:01:25,418 --> 00:01:28,018 The yellow contrasting brightly, 22 00:01:28,022 --> 00:01:30,692 And that's just gonna be it. 23 00:01:36,996 --> 00:01:39,156 Jubilation music, probably 24 00:01:39,166 --> 00:01:41,596 Something Sigur Ros like. 25 00:01:45,505 --> 00:01:49,475 That's actually my Girlfriend Veza up there. 26 00:01:50,577 --> 00:01:52,177 I, myself, turned out to be 27 00:01:52,179 --> 00:01:53,579 Too fat for takeoff, 28 00:01:53,581 --> 00:01:56,681 Or, like I prefer to believe, 29 00:01:56,684 --> 00:01:59,284 The balloon gas contracted 30 00:01:59,286 --> 00:02:00,616 In the freezing cold 31 00:02:00,621 --> 00:02:01,721 And threw all of our 32 00:02:01,722 --> 00:02:03,662 Math into disarray. 33 00:02:04,858 --> 00:02:05,788 - Get everybody else back. 34 00:02:05,793 --> 00:02:09,293 - Okay, I need everybody out... 35 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:10,856 Are you okay, Veza? 36 00:02:10,865 --> 00:02:11,925 - I love it. 37 00:02:11,932 --> 00:02:13,466 - Okay, one more time. 38 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:17,737 - Well, this is actually what really happened. 39 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,309 Me not flying in the blue sky 40 00:02:23,310 --> 00:02:26,880 Makes a little bit more sense after all. 41 00:02:26,881 --> 00:02:28,281 - It would be great if you could 42 00:02:28,282 --> 00:02:29,716 Go more for height. 43 00:02:29,717 --> 00:02:31,547 You're not jumping particularly high. 44 00:02:31,552 --> 00:02:35,192 You're just kind of moving horizontally. 45 00:02:36,222 --> 00:02:38,892 - We need to take this position again. 46 00:02:38,893 --> 00:02:41,133 - It's like, how can we not get this shot 47 00:02:41,134 --> 00:02:43,396 With someone in the air? 48 00:02:43,397 --> 00:02:45,497 - Stefan's gonna come out of the rig. 49 00:02:45,499 --> 00:02:46,766 - No. 50 00:02:46,767 --> 00:02:48,627 - Okay, I'm the director here, 51 00:02:48,636 --> 00:02:50,836 I'm gonna make a decision. 52 00:02:50,838 --> 00:02:51,998 - One thing is that harness 53 00:02:52,006 --> 00:02:54,736 Isn't built professionally. 54 00:02:54,742 --> 00:02:57,010 It is not meant for that. 55 00:02:57,011 --> 00:02:58,011 - Well then I go in this one. 56 00:02:58,012 --> 00:03:02,081 And it's going to be dark by the time we get him off. 57 00:03:02,082 --> 00:03:03,282 Hang on, hang on, hang on, 58 00:03:03,284 --> 00:03:05,752 Exactly what you shouldn't be doing 59 00:03:05,753 --> 00:03:07,353 Under the pressure, under the time constraints, 60 00:03:07,354 --> 00:03:08,688 And the sunset. 61 00:03:08,689 --> 00:03:09,989 You should definitely not be trying to rig 62 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:11,090 Someone else into the harness. 63 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:12,821 - This is a film about me 64 00:03:12,826 --> 00:03:15,156 Trying to make myself happier. 65 00:03:15,162 --> 00:03:18,362 - This is exactly the shit that I'm talking about. 66 00:03:20,433 --> 00:03:21,503 A number of years earlier, 67 00:03:21,504 --> 00:03:23,942 I was on sabbatical in Bali. 68 00:03:24,704 --> 00:03:26,944 My best friend visited from new york, 69 00:03:26,945 --> 00:03:30,711 And was checking how I was spending my time. 70 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:35,651 I was pretty much making furniture, 71 00:03:35,652 --> 00:03:38,279 And he looked at all of it and said, that's good enough 72 00:03:38,285 --> 00:03:41,885 But somehow, if you come back after a year 73 00:03:41,889 --> 00:03:44,619 With these couple of chairs and these ideas, 74 00:03:44,625 --> 00:03:48,755 I'm not quite sure if that's all that worthwhile. 75 00:03:53,499 --> 00:03:56,029 Well, this is really when the whole idea 76 00:03:56,036 --> 00:03:58,066 For the happy film came up. 77 00:03:58,072 --> 00:04:01,042 I had given a talk on design and happiness many times, 78 00:04:01,043 --> 00:04:05,078 And I'd always received really good feedback and 79 00:04:05,079 --> 00:04:07,409 It just seemed like a juicy 80 00:04:07,414 --> 00:04:10,984 Design problem itself, to make a proper 81 00:04:10,985 --> 00:04:12,315 Project out of it. 82 00:04:13,353 --> 00:04:14,723 And it would force me to 83 00:04:14,724 --> 00:04:17,322 Research the subject properly. 84 00:04:18,825 --> 00:04:22,725 After talking to many psychologists, I wrote a script. 85 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:25,330 And I made a list and a plan. 86 00:04:25,332 --> 00:04:27,172 I love making a plan. 87 00:04:28,201 --> 00:04:29,271 It got big. 88 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:33,070 Anything, fitted in there. 89 00:04:33,073 --> 00:04:34,743 It turned out that making a film about happiness 90 00:04:34,744 --> 00:04:38,742 Was somehow like making a film about life. 91 00:04:38,746 --> 00:04:41,206 Too big, just impossible. 92 00:04:41,215 --> 00:04:42,775 I narrowed it down to 93 00:04:42,783 --> 00:04:44,583 My own happiness instead. 94 00:04:44,585 --> 00:04:47,015 After all, on my own happiness, 95 00:04:47,021 --> 00:04:51,621 I really am the world's number one expert. 96 00:04:53,726 --> 00:04:55,786 The big question really is 97 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:59,526 Can I train my mind in the same way 98 00:04:59,533 --> 00:05:01,573 That I can train my body? 99 00:05:01,701 --> 00:05:03,471 And by far, the best book I read 100 00:05:03,472 --> 00:05:05,870 Was this one by Jonathan Haidt. 101 00:05:05,873 --> 00:05:07,043 So I called him up 102 00:05:07,044 --> 00:05:10,076 And he agreed to be the scientific 103 00:05:10,077 --> 00:05:11,937 Adviser for this film. 104 00:05:11,945 --> 00:05:12,875 - So, there are three really 105 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,080 Well validated techniques 106 00:05:14,081 --> 00:05:15,881 For changing your habitual thinking. 107 00:05:15,883 --> 00:05:17,983 The first technique is meditation. 108 00:05:17,985 --> 00:05:19,915 You concentrate and you learn to let go 109 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,750 Of thoughts that make you less happy. 110 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:22,715 Buddha said something like, 111 00:05:22,723 --> 00:05:24,757 A man must train his mind 112 00:05:24,758 --> 00:05:26,058 Like an elephant tamer 113 00:05:26,060 --> 00:05:27,290 Tames an elephant. 114 00:05:27,294 --> 00:05:29,664 The second technique is cognitive therapy. 115 00:05:29,665 --> 00:05:31,063 It's a lot easier than meditation. 116 00:05:31,065 --> 00:05:32,455 People have much higher success rates. 117 00:05:32,466 --> 00:05:34,066 You catch your distorted thinking 118 00:05:34,068 --> 00:05:35,968 And you learn to correct it. 119 00:05:35,969 --> 00:05:37,899 The third technique is drugs. 120 00:05:37,905 --> 00:05:40,435 Like Lexapro and Prozac. 121 00:05:40,441 --> 00:05:42,741 They really do change the way you think. 122 00:05:42,743 --> 00:05:44,283 And they change your habitual thought patterns. 123 00:05:44,284 --> 00:05:46,238 - I'm going to try them all out 124 00:05:46,246 --> 00:05:47,646 For three months each. 125 00:05:47,648 --> 00:05:50,316 So I should be done in 12 months. 126 00:05:50,317 --> 00:05:53,817 I'm going to measure my happiness daily 127 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:56,421 On a scale from one to 10. 128 00:05:56,423 --> 00:06:00,159 I'll double-check that here and there with an MRI scan. 129 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,530 I'll do an EEG. 130 00:06:03,763 --> 00:06:07,266 I'll keep track of my behavior every week. 131 00:06:07,267 --> 00:06:09,697 And I'll tape a video diary. 132 00:06:10,536 --> 00:06:13,436 And I know little about how to make a film. 133 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,780 So I'll ask my friend Hillman for help. 134 00:06:20,613 --> 00:06:23,349 And like a proper graphic designer, 135 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:24,850 Before I did any of that, 136 00:06:24,852 --> 00:06:27,052 Before shooting anything, 137 00:06:28,521 --> 00:06:31,461 I started with the title sequence. 138 00:07:10,563 --> 00:07:13,533 It is now may 2009. 139 00:07:15,001 --> 00:07:19,271 And I would say that my overall level of well-being is, 140 00:07:23,209 --> 00:07:25,609 Right now, maybe like a six. 141 00:07:26,546 --> 00:07:30,116 But I've already come up from 142 00:07:31,684 --> 00:07:33,753 Maybe, like three. 143 00:07:33,754 --> 00:07:34,794 I would say 144 00:07:36,856 --> 00:07:38,186 Two or three weeks ago. 145 00:07:38,591 --> 00:07:41,691 I clearly did lose a lot of weight. 146 00:07:43,763 --> 00:07:45,531 Most of my trousers 147 00:07:45,532 --> 00:07:47,200 Don't really fit anymore. 148 00:07:47,201 --> 00:07:48,031 I mean, you see, 149 00:07:48,035 --> 00:07:51,795 Even this one is... 150 00:07:51,805 --> 00:07:52,865 Fairly loose 151 00:07:52,873 --> 00:07:54,640 To say the least. 152 00:07:54,641 --> 00:07:58,241 Or I can, well, it's also an advantage, I guess. 153 00:07:58,245 --> 00:07:59,875 I can dress and redress so 154 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,310 Much quicker in the morning. 155 00:08:04,383 --> 00:08:07,487 Altogether, I just broke off a 156 00:08:07,488 --> 00:08:09,388 Long, long relationship 157 00:08:09,389 --> 00:08:11,819 With my now-ex girlfriend. 158 00:08:12,725 --> 00:08:16,085 We went out for 11 years. 159 00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:20,396 And I'm clearly a little bit swimming right now. 160 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,668 For sure, the last two months, 161 00:08:22,669 --> 00:08:24,799 Even though I try to be very active. 162 00:08:24,805 --> 00:08:26,335 My normal mode of 163 00:08:28,574 --> 00:08:32,344 Getting rid of problems is just to work more. 164 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:36,616 So I did quite a bit of work. 165 00:08:36,617 --> 00:08:38,177 Kept... Tried to keep myself 166 00:08:38,185 --> 00:08:39,745 Very, very busy. 167 00:08:39,753 --> 00:08:41,323 - Yeah, huge fan of your guys's work, 168 00:08:41,324 --> 00:08:43,089 I follow you all the time. 169 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:45,958 - We used to design a lot of Cd covers. 170 00:08:45,959 --> 00:08:47,929 I wanted to combine my two loves, 171 00:08:47,930 --> 00:08:50,096 Design and music. 172 00:08:50,097 --> 00:08:54,467 Then it turned out that designing the 28th cover 173 00:08:54,468 --> 00:08:57,098 Wasn't as much fun as designing the 1st. 174 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:59,044 - Look at this Cd, look at how cool that thing is. 175 00:08:59,045 --> 00:09:00,639 How slick is that? 176 00:09:00,641 --> 00:09:02,541 Very, very cool. 177 00:09:02,543 --> 00:09:03,943 - And then I was just trying to see 178 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:05,614 If I could apply this language 179 00:09:05,615 --> 00:09:07,346 That I know how to speak, 180 00:09:07,347 --> 00:09:08,547 Graphic design, 181 00:09:08,549 --> 00:09:09,709 To something that was 182 00:09:09,716 --> 00:09:12,776 Actually much more personal. 183 00:09:12,786 --> 00:09:15,216 And I found this little list in my diary 184 00:09:15,222 --> 00:09:16,956 Of things I've learned 185 00:09:16,957 --> 00:09:18,617 In my life so far. 186 00:09:18,625 --> 00:09:20,525 So I chose some of them. 187 00:09:20,527 --> 00:09:23,957 Designed them as well as I absolutely could. 188 00:09:23,964 --> 00:09:28,234 So, there is trying to look good 189 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:30,165 Limits my life. 190 00:09:31,470 --> 00:09:33,339 Everything I do 191 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:35,970 Always comes back 192 00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:36,906 To me. 193 00:09:39,245 --> 00:09:40,605 Keeping a diary 194 00:09:42,014 --> 00:09:43,583 Supports 195 00:09:43,584 --> 00:09:44,684 Personal 196 00:09:44,685 --> 00:09:45,745 Development. 197 00:09:48,421 --> 00:09:50,821 Even though my initial feeling was 198 00:09:50,824 --> 00:09:52,764 That it's fairly self-indulgent, 199 00:09:52,765 --> 00:09:56,329 The reaction of the audience was fantastic. 200 00:09:56,330 --> 00:10:00,330 It became this thing that's still very graphic design, 201 00:10:00,334 --> 00:10:03,402 But a much more personal expression. 202 00:10:03,403 --> 00:10:05,241 Look, somebody is in a good mood. 203 00:10:05,242 --> 00:10:06,938 - I'm so excited. - Excellent. 204 00:10:07,673 --> 00:10:09,411 The reason I wanted to work with Jonathan 205 00:10:09,412 --> 00:10:11,779 Is because he deals with the whole life, 206 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:14,678 Not just some small, specialist stuff. 207 00:10:14,681 --> 00:10:17,550 And at the same time, he's a true scientist. 208 00:10:17,551 --> 00:10:20,551 Everything he says is backed up by proper 209 00:10:20,554 --> 00:10:23,189 Authoritative research. 210 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:24,390 - The view that I came to in writing the 211 00:10:24,391 --> 00:10:26,091 Happiness hypothesis I didn't have this view 212 00:10:26,093 --> 00:10:28,227 When I started writing, but by the end of the book, 213 00:10:28,228 --> 00:10:30,196 I came to the conclusion that happiness doesn't come 214 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:31,127 From getting what you want. 215 00:10:31,131 --> 00:10:32,961 Well that, everybody knows. 216 00:10:32,966 --> 00:10:34,366 It doesn't come from within. 217 00:10:34,368 --> 00:10:35,268 I mean, that's what the Buddhists 218 00:10:35,269 --> 00:10:36,428 And the stoics have always told us. 219 00:10:36,436 --> 00:10:38,536 From within, so, you know, change yourself, 220 00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:39,638 Find happiness within. 221 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:40,940 There's some truth to that, 222 00:10:40,941 --> 00:10:44,041 But I think the more correct way 223 00:10:44,044 --> 00:10:45,114 To think about human happiness 224 00:10:45,115 --> 00:10:47,082 Is that happiness comes from getting the right 225 00:10:47,083 --> 00:10:48,880 Kind of relationships. 226 00:10:48,882 --> 00:10:49,982 Between yourself and others, 227 00:10:49,983 --> 00:10:53,123 And yourself and something larger than yourself. 228 00:10:53,124 --> 00:10:55,150 Try to almost see yourself 229 00:10:55,155 --> 00:10:56,485 As though you were, 230 00:10:56,490 --> 00:10:58,658 You know, a child or an animal 231 00:10:58,659 --> 00:11:00,626 That you were trying to change or shape. 232 00:11:00,627 --> 00:11:01,557 And what experiences 233 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:03,399 Can you give it that would end up just 234 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,427 Making it automatically and habitually act 235 00:11:05,432 --> 00:11:06,832 In a different way. 236 00:11:35,928 --> 00:11:37,697 - To make your mind become strong, 237 00:11:37,698 --> 00:11:39,298 You need exercise. 238 00:11:40,266 --> 00:11:41,926 The exercise of the mind, this 239 00:11:41,935 --> 00:11:44,365 Is what we call meditation. 240 00:11:46,773 --> 00:11:49,341 - The schedule says wake up at 4:30 241 00:11:49,342 --> 00:11:51,110 And then a full program 242 00:11:51,111 --> 00:11:53,711 All the way 'til 9:15 pm. 243 00:11:53,714 --> 00:11:56,614 Meditation, break, meditation, break. 244 00:11:56,616 --> 00:11:58,616 Break, meditation, meditation 245 00:11:58,618 --> 00:12:00,986 With strong determination, 246 00:12:00,987 --> 00:12:03,317 Meaning you're not allowed to move, 247 00:12:03,323 --> 00:12:06,263 Break, lecture, break, meditation. 248 00:12:08,127 --> 00:12:09,957 At 6:00 in the morning, already 249 00:12:09,963 --> 00:12:12,063 My back hurts like hell. 250 00:12:12,898 --> 00:12:14,898 And at 8:00, oh, my god, 251 00:12:14,901 --> 00:12:17,101 The pain is totally nuts. 252 00:12:18,537 --> 00:12:21,407 - This is the way to get happier. 253 00:12:22,708 --> 00:12:27,178 May all beings be happy. 254 00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:33,118 May all beings be happy. 255 00:12:35,154 --> 00:12:39,424 May all beings be happy. 256 00:12:40,192 --> 00:12:41,762 Meditation, stop. 257 00:12:42,995 --> 00:12:45,655 One, two, three, four. 258 00:12:45,665 --> 00:12:47,725 - But the only pleasure 259 00:12:47,734 --> 00:12:49,502 That I experience now 260 00:12:49,503 --> 00:12:51,003 Comes from the time 261 00:12:51,004 --> 00:12:53,104 When the pain goes away. 262 00:12:53,839 --> 00:12:55,908 - One by one, 263 00:12:55,909 --> 00:12:57,009 When you're calm. 264 00:12:57,010 --> 00:12:58,840 May all beings 265 00:12:58,845 --> 00:13:00,345 Be happy. 266 00:13:00,347 --> 00:13:01,847 Fuck. 267 00:13:01,848 --> 00:13:05,118 Five, six, seven, eight. 268 00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:16,428 - I'm surrounded by a surprisingly mixed group. 269 00:13:16,429 --> 00:13:18,559 A bunch of Jakarta housewives, 270 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:20,195 A fancy hippie. 271 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,400 An aging surfer dude. 272 00:13:22,402 --> 00:13:24,202 An architect, designer type. 273 00:13:24,204 --> 00:13:28,440 And various women between the age of 25 and 45 274 00:13:28,441 --> 00:13:31,311 At various degrees of being lost. 275 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:36,916 Everybody looks zombie-like and dour. 276 00:13:36,917 --> 00:13:38,977 If I'm supposed to get happy here, 277 00:13:38,985 --> 00:13:40,545 Current company does not 278 00:13:40,554 --> 00:13:43,054 Suggest a successful outcome. 279 00:13:47,927 --> 00:13:50,057 Good morning, everybody. 280 00:13:50,063 --> 00:13:52,932 We're going to continue our practice 281 00:13:52,933 --> 00:13:56,302 To make our harmonious mind appear. 282 00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:58,070 - Crazy pain, 283 00:13:58,071 --> 00:13:59,401 All night long. 284 00:14:00,406 --> 00:14:02,936 I'm totally ready to give up. 285 00:14:03,909 --> 00:14:06,909 Seven, eight, nine, ten. 286 00:14:06,913 --> 00:14:11,353 One, two, three, four, five. 287 00:14:21,093 --> 00:14:23,803 Just ran into an old student of mine and 288 00:14:23,804 --> 00:14:28,597 She's joining me and her friend for dinner later on. 289 00:14:28,602 --> 00:14:31,402 So... Lovely. 290 00:14:42,715 --> 00:14:45,315 Well after failing for awhile, 291 00:14:46,285 --> 00:14:48,515 I am now opening 292 00:14:48,521 --> 00:14:50,051 Up to new things. 293 00:14:51,624 --> 00:14:53,626 It does feel like lots 294 00:14:53,627 --> 00:14:55,457 Of stuff is possible. 295 00:15:03,068 --> 00:15:06,838 And I think even Tanya is impressed. 296 00:15:18,484 --> 00:15:19,424 I'm bored. 297 00:15:21,553 --> 00:15:25,763 Sunday and I'm bored. 298 00:15:28,827 --> 00:15:30,257 I was reading all afternoon 299 00:15:30,263 --> 00:15:32,603 And I will do a little bit of work now, 300 00:15:32,604 --> 00:15:34,999 Because I don't know, really, 301 00:15:35,001 --> 00:15:36,941 What else I should do. 302 00:15:47,613 --> 00:15:50,053 My Mom, whom I loved dearly, 303 00:15:50,883 --> 00:15:52,223 Died this year. 304 00:15:54,186 --> 00:15:56,616 She used to work in a store all her life, 305 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,691 And going up to people, 306 00:15:58,692 --> 00:16:01,627 Making that first step really became easy 307 00:16:01,628 --> 00:16:04,628 As she got totally used to it. 308 00:16:04,631 --> 00:16:09,468 I, myself, could still get much, much better at that. 309 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:13,706 This, this line and this line, same distance? 310 00:16:13,707 --> 00:16:14,637 "T" here. 311 00:16:14,641 --> 00:16:19,141 I'm extremely anxious about this dance piece. 312 00:16:19,145 --> 00:16:20,905 Choreographing dancers 313 00:16:20,914 --> 00:16:22,381 Is fairly far away 314 00:16:22,382 --> 00:16:24,950 From straightforward graphic design. 315 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:26,481 The "e" moves back. 316 00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:29,747 It's always the same. 317 00:16:29,756 --> 00:16:31,916 If I've done it before, I get bored. 318 00:16:31,925 --> 00:16:35,655 If I haven't done it before, I get anxious. 319 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:43,596 A couple of years ago, Hillman had made a 320 00:16:43,603 --> 00:16:45,403 Short portrait of me. 321 00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:48,407 And I immediately thought, 322 00:16:48,408 --> 00:16:50,776 I could be friends with this guy. 323 00:16:50,777 --> 00:16:53,846 - So, I would choose the letters where it made sense. 324 00:16:53,847 --> 00:16:54,677 Do you know what I mean? 325 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:56,111 - Yeah. 326 00:16:56,949 --> 00:16:59,719 Unlike me, he's calm and gentle. 327 00:17:01,587 --> 00:17:03,347 We make a good team. 328 00:17:04,256 --> 00:17:05,186 M, yes! 329 00:17:06,358 --> 00:17:07,288 A, yes! 330 00:17:08,494 --> 00:17:09,434 K, yes! 331 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:11,559 E, no! 332 00:18:15,994 --> 00:18:18,397 What a crazy weekend. 333 00:18:18,398 --> 00:18:20,328 I spent it with Tanya in 334 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:23,333 A hotel down south in Alila Uluwatu. 335 00:18:23,336 --> 00:18:24,996 And I mean, of course, yeah, 336 00:18:25,004 --> 00:18:27,114 It can't be much better. 337 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:30,511 What a lovely, lovely, lovely, 338 00:18:30,512 --> 00:18:32,880 Lovely, lovely girl she is. 339 00:18:33,612 --> 00:18:36,512 Sadly, she doesn't want to be filmed. 340 00:18:36,516 --> 00:18:38,716 She thinks I share too much 341 00:18:38,718 --> 00:18:41,218 Private stuff with everybody. 342 00:18:51,530 --> 00:18:53,970 I think I'm falling for her. 343 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:58,798 Yeah, I think I'm falling in love. 344 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:08,980 Just coming back from an incredible weekend with Tanya. 345 00:19:11,550 --> 00:19:14,820 I'm really in love, and I told her so. 346 00:19:15,888 --> 00:19:19,218 I'd say that if she would leave me now, 347 00:19:21,059 --> 00:19:24,496 Then I'd definitely have that broken heart 348 00:19:24,497 --> 00:19:26,097 That Jonathan Haidt thought 349 00:19:26,099 --> 00:19:28,429 Would be good for the film. 350 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,846 There was a meditation on love and kindness. 351 00:19:40,847 --> 00:19:44,917 And I meditated on 352 00:19:44,918 --> 00:19:47,348 The fact that I'm gonna die. 353 00:19:51,523 --> 00:19:54,826 And I think I really 354 00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:58,927 Don't wanna just dedicate the next 355 00:19:58,932 --> 00:20:02,501 20 years of my life also to design, 356 00:20:02,502 --> 00:20:05,042 As I've basically been doing. 357 00:20:13,178 --> 00:20:17,178 Yeah, I definitely had an insight. 358 00:20:17,183 --> 00:20:20,819 The insight is that I really want kids. 359 00:20:20,820 --> 00:20:21,720 It's a big deal. 360 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:24,856 That would be for me, my god... 361 00:20:24,857 --> 00:20:26,287 It's a big deal. 362 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:32,660 And I'll see how Tanya feels about this. 363 00:20:49,915 --> 00:20:51,215 Crazy. 364 00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:52,747 I'm in Hong Kong. 365 00:20:53,518 --> 00:20:55,087 And things are amazing. 366 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:58,056 Of course, now that I'm not looking 367 00:20:58,057 --> 00:20:59,787 For a girl, 368 00:21:00,659 --> 00:21:02,359 They are all over me. 369 00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:04,596 Maybe like the most ever. 370 00:21:04,597 --> 00:21:06,057 There was this pretty blonde girl 371 00:21:06,065 --> 00:21:09,165 Who in a second, sat on my lap. 372 00:21:09,168 --> 00:21:10,836 And just to make sure 373 00:21:10,837 --> 00:21:13,537 That I actually heard her correctly, 374 00:21:13,539 --> 00:21:16,908 I said, did you just offer me a trial run 375 00:21:16,909 --> 00:21:18,539 To sleep with you? 376 00:21:18,544 --> 00:21:19,944 And she said, 377 00:21:19,946 --> 00:21:21,006 Well, I might have, 378 00:21:21,014 --> 00:21:24,182 You have to seduce me a little bit before. 379 00:21:24,183 --> 00:21:25,751 And it took, as it was, 380 00:21:25,752 --> 00:21:28,692 Quite some self-discipline not to. 381 00:21:30,622 --> 00:21:31,562 Crazy. 382 00:21:39,364 --> 00:21:43,374 I do think I could be a good Dad. 383 00:21:44,903 --> 00:21:47,139 And on the other hand, 384 00:21:47,140 --> 00:21:48,140 If I would have a 385 00:21:48,141 --> 00:21:50,141 Family just for the thrill. 386 00:21:50,143 --> 00:21:52,913 Oh, my god, that would be awful. 387 00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:02,387 I'm not sure if she's pissed at me. 388 00:22:02,388 --> 00:22:03,318 Who knows? 389 00:22:03,323 --> 00:22:08,160 It for sure would be understandable considering 390 00:22:08,161 --> 00:22:12,431 That the child issue surely is a deal-breaker for her. 391 00:22:13,932 --> 00:22:16,101 I think that's more my problem 392 00:22:16,102 --> 00:22:18,170 Than it is a reflection of 393 00:22:18,171 --> 00:22:20,439 The true situation with Tanya. 394 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,407 But it's constantly like, 395 00:22:22,408 --> 00:22:26,578 Oh, we are so different. Oh, she is so irrational. 396 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:30,609 Oh, we have a difference of common sense. 397 00:22:30,616 --> 00:22:35,416 In a very, very difficult situation with her, 398 00:22:37,255 --> 00:22:41,255 Because I couldn't count on her acting rationally. 399 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:42,928 And it's difficult to get 400 00:22:42,929 --> 00:22:45,599 These thoughts out of my brain. 401 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:50,699 I mean, we are a month into it basically. 402 00:22:50,703 --> 00:22:55,213 And there is already 403 00:22:56,942 --> 00:22:58,312 Serious strife. 404 00:23:00,112 --> 00:23:01,052 Serious. 405 00:23:03,782 --> 00:23:04,952 I'm basically 406 00:23:06,952 --> 00:23:09,792 Out of my depth. 407 00:23:12,290 --> 00:23:13,790 She cried. 408 00:23:16,061 --> 00:23:17,831 I'm just really sad. 409 00:23:32,378 --> 00:23:35,647 - It is intimacy with the ordinary conditions 410 00:23:35,648 --> 00:23:37,648 Of life that allow meditation 411 00:23:37,650 --> 00:23:39,217 To arise naturally, 412 00:23:39,218 --> 00:23:43,248 And then you find yourself in meditation. 413 00:23:43,256 --> 00:23:44,916 And not while I'm sitting 414 00:23:44,924 --> 00:23:46,558 In my meditation hut 415 00:23:46,559 --> 00:23:48,427 Trying, sitting still. 416 00:23:48,428 --> 00:23:49,988 - Yeah, well, there's the word trying. 417 00:23:49,996 --> 00:23:52,696 The trying is the problem. 418 00:23:52,698 --> 00:23:53,998 'Cause you're trying to get somewhere 419 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,330 As if you're not somewhere. 420 00:23:59,171 --> 00:24:02,841 - I actually found a repeatable way 421 00:24:02,842 --> 00:24:05,442 To manufacture a happy Moment. 422 00:24:08,747 --> 00:24:12,677 d I think I know how I feel d 423 00:24:16,855 --> 00:24:23,625 d cause I-I only play for real d 424 00:24:26,031 --> 00:24:29,971 d You should be picking me up d 425 00:24:31,703 --> 00:24:35,873 d instead you're dragging me down d 426 00:24:37,576 --> 00:24:40,846 d You're flying over my head d 427 00:24:43,448 --> 00:24:47,488 d you're landing all over town d 428 00:24:48,887 --> 00:24:52,817 d you should be picking me up d 429 00:24:54,793 --> 00:24:59,563 d instead you're dragging me down d 430 00:24:59,565 --> 00:25:01,625 - What is it that leads to a change 431 00:25:01,634 --> 00:25:03,772 In the way that you engage with people? 432 00:25:03,773 --> 00:25:04,899 From last time we spoke, 433 00:25:04,904 --> 00:25:06,673 It was clear to me that your issue 434 00:25:06,674 --> 00:25:08,272 Isn't happiness per say. 435 00:25:08,274 --> 00:25:09,112 And that issues were 436 00:25:09,113 --> 00:25:10,008 Really much more about connection 437 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,479 With other people, and some of the 438 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,737 Warm, loving skills. 439 00:25:13,746 --> 00:25:15,306 There's actually one other element here 440 00:25:15,314 --> 00:25:16,448 That we should bring 441 00:25:16,449 --> 00:25:17,619 In, is the fact that you were living 442 00:25:17,620 --> 00:25:19,147 In a foreign country. 443 00:25:19,151 --> 00:25:20,351 It sounds like we have 444 00:25:20,353 --> 00:25:21,453 Not just the meditation, 445 00:25:21,454 --> 00:25:23,023 But we have being in a new place. 446 00:25:23,024 --> 00:25:25,592 - In a place in which you don't know people, 447 00:25:25,593 --> 00:25:27,160 So you're forced to be more open. 448 00:25:27,161 --> 00:25:29,429 In a place that the pace of life of which 449 00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:31,928 Is much, much slower than in new york. 450 00:25:31,931 --> 00:25:33,961 And in a place which is physically very beautiful, 451 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:35,526 And in a very green, natural way. 452 00:25:35,535 --> 00:25:37,835 So all of these things are adding up 453 00:25:37,837 --> 00:25:40,437 To sort of suppress the sort of, 454 00:25:40,439 --> 00:25:42,869 The time pressure, 455 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,605 You know, task-focused Stefan Sagmeister. 456 00:25:45,611 --> 00:25:47,111 And bring out to the greatest 457 00:25:47,113 --> 00:25:48,450 Extent that you're capable 458 00:25:48,451 --> 00:25:51,877 Of the more warm, loving and open Stefan Sagmeister. 459 00:25:51,884 --> 00:25:53,784 So it's going to be very difficult for us to figure out 460 00:25:53,786 --> 00:25:56,386 Whether the meditation played any role whatsoever. 461 00:25:56,389 --> 00:25:59,658 What we're seeing here is that you're really high 462 00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:02,227 In a trait called systemizing. 463 00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:05,196 And systemizing is the ability 464 00:26:05,197 --> 00:26:08,166 And skill of seeing things as systems 465 00:26:08,167 --> 00:26:10,827 Which can be graphed and manipulated. 466 00:26:10,836 --> 00:26:13,896 And systemizing is at least slightly correlated 467 00:26:13,906 --> 00:26:15,736 Negatively with empathizing. 468 00:26:15,741 --> 00:26:19,041 And so this is a systemizer's attempt 469 00:26:19,045 --> 00:26:21,905 To make himself more empathizing. 470 00:26:32,324 --> 00:26:36,094 - So, Jonathan talks in his book 471 00:26:36,095 --> 00:26:39,295 About this metaphor for 472 00:26:41,032 --> 00:26:43,001 Unconscious and the conscious minds. 473 00:26:43,002 --> 00:26:45,902 The conscious mind being the tiny little rider 474 00:26:45,905 --> 00:26:49,005 On the giant elephant, the unconscious. 475 00:26:49,008 --> 00:26:51,008 And the rider thinks that he can tell the elephant 476 00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:52,840 What to do and where to go. 477 00:26:52,845 --> 00:26:54,775 But the elephant, of course, 478 00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:57,050 Has his own sort of ideas. 479 00:27:00,186 --> 00:27:01,346 And it's quite strange 480 00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:02,894 That even though we think 481 00:27:02,895 --> 00:27:06,418 That we make our decisions rationally, 482 00:27:06,425 --> 00:27:09,185 If you look at a guy called George. 483 00:27:09,195 --> 00:27:11,855 He doesn't quite know where to move to, 484 00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:15,600 Somehow Georgia sounds best for George. 485 00:27:15,601 --> 00:27:19,201 And if you have a guy called Dennis, 486 00:27:19,205 --> 00:27:20,035 He doesn't know if he wants to 487 00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,139 Become a doctor or a teacher, 488 00:27:22,141 --> 00:27:25,411 Somehow dentist sounds best to Dennis. 489 00:27:26,411 --> 00:27:29,851 And Paula, unsure to marry jack or Paul. 490 00:27:31,282 --> 00:27:33,718 Paul it is for Paula. 491 00:27:33,719 --> 00:27:35,787 And that's the strange thing. 492 00:27:35,788 --> 00:27:37,448 We think we make these decisions, 493 00:27:37,456 --> 00:27:40,056 But you have data in the us 494 00:27:40,059 --> 00:27:41,989 That there are more Georges 495 00:27:41,994 --> 00:27:43,762 Who live in Georgia, 496 00:27:43,763 --> 00:27:45,330 There are more Dennises 497 00:27:45,331 --> 00:27:47,061 Who become Dentists, 498 00:27:47,066 --> 00:27:48,966 And there are more Paulas 499 00:27:48,968 --> 00:27:50,828 That are married to Pauls 500 00:27:50,836 --> 00:27:52,796 Than would be statistically viable. 501 00:27:52,805 --> 00:27:57,305 Now, when I first saw that data I thought, you know, 502 00:27:57,309 --> 00:27:58,779 These stupid Americans. 503 00:27:58,780 --> 00:28:02,848 Ah, they really don't know what they're doing. 504 00:28:04,082 --> 00:28:05,782 Somehow they are, you know, 505 00:28:05,785 --> 00:28:08,485 Led around by their elephant. 506 00:28:08,487 --> 00:28:11,287 Then I looked at my own family. 507 00:28:11,290 --> 00:28:15,060 That's my Mom Karolina marrying my Dad Karl. 508 00:28:16,795 --> 00:28:21,065 My Grandmother Josephine marrying my Dranddad Josef. 509 00:28:23,435 --> 00:28:27,265 So, I'm still looking for that Stefanie. 510 00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:46,391 So, yeah, what I normally do on Monday mornings 511 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:49,227 Is this weekly rating thing. 512 00:28:49,228 --> 00:28:51,058 I've been doing it for years and years. 513 00:28:51,063 --> 00:28:54,532 It's basically 12 things that 514 00:28:54,533 --> 00:28:55,973 I'm gonna change about myself. 515 00:28:55,974 --> 00:28:58,968 So, one, I've been really, really good. 516 00:28:58,971 --> 00:29:01,171 Five, I've been really, really bad. 517 00:29:01,173 --> 00:29:04,876 First one, don't drink alcohol, was one. 518 00:29:04,877 --> 00:29:07,707 That I'm gutsy once a week. 519 00:29:07,713 --> 00:29:09,913 Last week, I don't think I was very gutsy, 520 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:13,845 But I'll have to go back and check. 521 00:29:13,853 --> 00:29:15,923 Okay, there was this Guggenheim gala 522 00:29:15,924 --> 00:29:18,791 Where I did go up to some people. 523 00:29:19,924 --> 00:29:20,924 Not all that successful, 524 00:29:20,926 --> 00:29:22,756 But at least I did. 525 00:29:22,762 --> 00:29:26,231 Helping somebody, I was actually good last week. 526 00:29:26,232 --> 00:29:28,832 Do something with my friends, also a two. 527 00:29:28,834 --> 00:29:31,774 Flexible, I don't think I was all that flexible. 528 00:29:31,775 --> 00:29:34,038 So that gets, so that will be a 529 00:29:34,039 --> 00:29:35,769 One, a two, five. 530 00:29:35,775 --> 00:29:38,735 26 divided by 12. 531 00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:41,614 2.1, okay, so that's not too bad. 532 00:29:44,182 --> 00:29:45,917 Yeah, I think that's pretty good. 533 00:29:45,918 --> 00:29:47,178 Oh, and then one that I left out here 534 00:29:47,186 --> 00:29:49,016 Because I was too embarrassed about it 535 00:29:49,021 --> 00:29:51,456 Was that I wouldn't date any girls 536 00:29:51,457 --> 00:29:55,857 That are more than 20 years younger than I am. 537 00:29:55,861 --> 00:29:57,591 In weeks when I was good at these things, 538 00:29:57,596 --> 00:29:58,926 When I got good marks, it's 539 00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:00,861 Always been a happy week. 540 00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:02,926 And then I got bad marks, 541 00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:05,195 It's been an unhappy week. 542 00:30:23,621 --> 00:30:25,390 Jonathan introduced me 543 00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:29,160 To some very high end cognitive therapists. 544 00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:30,091 I met up with them, 545 00:30:30,095 --> 00:30:32,395 And hated them all. 546 00:30:32,398 --> 00:30:36,228 Then a friend introduced me to Sheenah. 547 00:30:36,235 --> 00:30:37,995 I liked her. 548 00:30:38,003 --> 00:30:39,503 - How are you? - - I'm good. 549 00:30:39,737 --> 00:30:42,887 I, myself, have never been in therapy before. 550 00:30:42,912 --> 00:30:43,937 Right. 551 00:30:43,943 --> 00:30:45,412 - I'm not sure if I'm a 552 00:30:45,413 --> 00:30:47,411 Particularly fantastic candidate 553 00:30:47,413 --> 00:30:50,413 For therapy, considering that 554 00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:52,276 For a big part of my life 555 00:30:52,284 --> 00:30:54,619 I've been fairly happy. 556 00:30:54,620 --> 00:30:57,320 When I first met Sheenah I asked her, 557 00:30:57,323 --> 00:31:00,692 Is it reasonable to expect 558 00:31:00,693 --> 00:31:02,993 Some change after three months? 559 00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:05,825 And she said, well, if you just talk and do nothing, 560 00:31:05,831 --> 00:31:06,961 Probably not. 561 00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:10,966 If you do the homework and train yourself in that, 562 00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,870 It probably will work. 563 00:31:16,541 --> 00:31:21,011 My memories of my childhood are incredibly happy. 564 00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:25,116 My parents had an unbelievable marriage. 565 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:28,117 I don't remember a single fight 566 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,890 Or even bad feelings in the air. 567 00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:33,558 - Oh, look at that. 568 00:31:33,559 --> 00:31:37,159 That's a beautiful picture of you and her. 569 00:31:38,463 --> 00:31:40,732 Now, you come from a very close, loving family. 570 00:31:40,733 --> 00:31:43,503 - Mm-hm. - There's not much history of conflict. 571 00:31:43,504 --> 00:31:45,640 There wasn't much model for it growing up. 572 00:31:45,641 --> 00:31:48,468 - Here's something that I was thinking about, 573 00:31:48,474 --> 00:31:51,174 Is that you're 49 and you've never married. 574 00:31:51,176 --> 00:31:54,976 - And I've found that all single people who say to me, 575 00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:58,549 I can't understand why I really don't have a family, 576 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,650 Why is this? 577 00:32:00,653 --> 00:32:04,689 All of them tend to be passive pleasers. 578 00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:07,060 Because you tend to avoid conflict. 579 00:32:07,061 --> 00:32:10,528 - Yes, I think that accurate. - Right. 580 00:32:10,529 --> 00:32:14,059 - So what would you say would be a remedy for that? 581 00:32:14,066 --> 00:32:17,666 - I believe in dealing with conflict well and elegantly. 582 00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:19,000 And respectfully. 583 00:32:19,004 --> 00:32:22,874 It would be good practice for you to do that. 584 00:32:25,343 --> 00:32:27,078 - Even before I saw Sheenah, 585 00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:28,009 I've been trying to get 586 00:32:28,013 --> 00:32:30,181 Better with everyday things. 587 00:32:30,182 --> 00:32:32,652 Things I'm almost embarrassed 588 00:32:33,451 --> 00:32:36,121 That I need to talk about them. 589 00:32:37,388 --> 00:32:39,557 Things like if I want a coffee on the street 590 00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:40,888 And I see somebody with a coffee, 591 00:32:40,893 --> 00:32:41,793 Just ask that person, 592 00:32:41,794 --> 00:32:42,734 Where did you get it, 593 00:32:42,735 --> 00:32:45,228 Rather than finding it myself. 594 00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:49,230 Or telling a taxi driver to turn the radio down 595 00:32:49,234 --> 00:32:50,802 If it bothers me. 596 00:32:50,803 --> 00:32:53,703 You know, I've been known to sit in a taxi 597 00:32:53,706 --> 00:32:56,036 And just endure it. 598 00:32:56,041 --> 00:32:57,909 That's perfect, thanks. 599 00:32:57,910 --> 00:33:01,040 Do you have any idea of other homework 600 00:33:01,046 --> 00:33:03,276 That I could do? 601 00:33:03,282 --> 00:33:05,882 - I think we should pick things that you would avoid doing. 602 00:33:05,884 --> 00:33:09,087 What kind of things do you avoid doing? 603 00:33:09,088 --> 00:33:10,888 Cause I do believe in seeking discomfort 604 00:33:10,889 --> 00:33:13,819 As a great way to grow confidence. 605 00:33:22,734 --> 00:33:23,834 - Hi, sorry for interrupting, 606 00:33:23,836 --> 00:33:26,766 But you just look fantastic. 607 00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:27,742 I love your outfit, 608 00:33:27,743 --> 00:33:30,240 You just look great. 609 00:33:30,242 --> 00:33:31,642 That's some serious amount of 610 00:33:31,643 --> 00:33:33,043 Apples that you have there. 611 00:33:35,413 --> 00:33:37,181 - So I'm gonna do things 612 00:33:37,182 --> 00:33:39,382 That I normally never do. 613 00:33:40,118 --> 00:33:42,118 And some, probably the most difficult one 614 00:33:42,121 --> 00:33:43,991 Is going to be to get a phone number of a girl. 615 00:33:43,992 --> 00:33:46,489 Which is just gonna be terrifying, 616 00:33:46,492 --> 00:33:48,092 Because I never do that on the street. 617 00:33:48,093 --> 00:33:49,927 I just never do. 618 00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:52,628 So just thinking about it 619 00:33:52,631 --> 00:33:54,801 Now and talking about it, 620 00:33:55,933 --> 00:33:58,036 Yeah, makes me queasy 621 00:33:58,037 --> 00:33:59,937 To say the least. 622 00:33:59,938 --> 00:34:01,806 Wow, I love that bag. 623 00:34:01,807 --> 00:34:04,137 Excuse me, I love that bag. 624 00:34:05,343 --> 00:34:08,780 I'm not getting very far with my compliments. 625 00:34:08,781 --> 00:34:11,821 - People are so used to being approached here. 626 00:34:11,822 --> 00:34:15,947 - Do you ever approach people on the street? 627 00:34:15,954 --> 00:34:17,789 - No. - Me neither. 628 00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:19,460 - I never do. - Yeah, no, no, me neither. 629 00:34:19,461 --> 00:34:21,626 - This blonde? - You want to try? 630 00:34:21,627 --> 00:34:22,827 - Not really. 631 00:34:25,296 --> 00:34:27,426 - She looks mean. - Yeah. 632 00:34:29,967 --> 00:34:31,127 - Can I give you a flower? 633 00:34:31,136 --> 00:34:32,796 - Oh, it's... - no, but look, look, 634 00:34:32,805 --> 00:34:33,965 It matches perfectly. 635 00:34:33,972 --> 00:34:36,741 - Thanks a lot, thanks a lot. - Yeah? Thank you. 636 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:38,180 I'm sorry, I see you're texting 637 00:34:38,181 --> 00:34:40,507 But I just have to comment on your jacket. 638 00:34:40,512 --> 00:34:42,150 That is just the nicest jacket. 639 00:34:42,151 --> 00:34:44,147 You absolutely look fantastic. 640 00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:45,979 - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, well, thank you. 641 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,586 I would love to get together for a cup of coffee 642 00:34:48,587 --> 00:34:49,487 At one time. 643 00:34:49,488 --> 00:34:51,558 - Look, and I have a flower for you. 644 00:34:51,559 --> 00:34:52,587 - Oh, thank you. 645 00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,491 - Excellent. - They're beautiful. 646 00:34:54,493 --> 00:34:58,830 - That was the first one that halfway decently worked out. 647 00:34:58,831 --> 00:35:00,731 I didn't quite have the guts to further, 648 00:35:00,732 --> 00:35:02,502 To really ask her for her phone number 649 00:35:02,503 --> 00:35:04,331 After she accepted, graciously, my card. 650 00:35:04,336 --> 00:35:06,096 But I wouldn't, the way she reacted, 651 00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:10,965 If I would actually get an email from Christie. 652 00:35:12,677 --> 00:35:14,947 I would say, at least from 653 00:35:15,780 --> 00:35:18,080 A judgement of American society, 654 00:35:18,083 --> 00:35:19,083 I clearly must have some 655 00:35:19,084 --> 00:35:22,687 Sort of commitment issues. 656 00:35:22,688 --> 00:35:24,018 At least, if I talk to girls... 657 00:35:24,022 --> 00:35:26,192 - They're going to tell you that within five minutes. 658 00:35:26,193 --> 00:35:28,191 - I think that I have commitment issues. 659 00:35:28,193 --> 00:35:30,693 I did have, of course, a very long relationship. 660 00:35:30,696 --> 00:35:31,526 - You did? 661 00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:35,430 I went out with Anni for 11 years. 662 00:35:35,434 --> 00:35:36,674 - You did? - Yeah. 663 00:35:38,536 --> 00:35:40,466 We were friends for many, many years 664 00:35:40,472 --> 00:35:41,772 Before we started dating. 665 00:35:41,773 --> 00:35:44,876 And we had a quite wonderful relationship, 666 00:35:44,877 --> 00:35:48,077 But towards the end, we really sort of got 667 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,110 On each others' nerves. 668 00:35:50,115 --> 00:35:51,745 Mostly small things. 669 00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:57,020 I could never really figure out how that happened. 670 00:35:58,556 --> 00:36:02,226 Did she start to do things she never did before? 671 00:36:02,227 --> 00:36:06,257 Or am I now getting agitated about stuff I used 672 00:36:06,265 --> 00:36:07,695 To be fine with? 673 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,840 And I'd say that right now, 674 00:36:15,806 --> 00:36:17,506 I'm not sure if it was a 675 00:36:17,509 --> 00:36:19,779 Good idea to break it off. 676 00:36:20,978 --> 00:36:22,108 But I can say this. 677 00:36:22,114 --> 00:36:23,784 I of course am a big list-maker. 678 00:36:23,785 --> 00:36:26,250 I have also made lists of 679 00:36:26,251 --> 00:36:28,819 - Positives and negatives. - Negatives. 680 00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:32,256 - Yes and it was just a little bit 681 00:36:32,257 --> 00:36:33,817 More negatives than positives. 682 00:36:33,825 --> 00:36:35,325 And I recently went 683 00:36:35,327 --> 00:36:36,627 Back into the diary 684 00:36:36,628 --> 00:36:38,796 And saw those lists again and... 685 00:36:38,797 --> 00:36:41,157 - What did you see? 686 00:36:41,166 --> 00:36:42,926 - I saw that I 687 00:36:42,935 --> 00:36:45,595 Left out a good number of 688 00:36:45,604 --> 00:36:47,638 Positives that I would see now. 689 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:48,607 - Really? 690 00:36:48,608 --> 00:36:49,607 Yeah. 691 00:36:49,608 --> 00:36:50,968 That there were 692 00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:54,106 Things that I didn't give her any credit for, 693 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:56,612 That she clearly would have deserved credit. 694 00:36:56,615 --> 00:36:57,445 That I basically 695 00:36:57,449 --> 00:36:59,116 Took for granted. 696 00:36:59,117 --> 00:37:01,147 Let's say that last pro and con list, 697 00:37:01,153 --> 00:37:02,653 Done from today's point of view, 698 00:37:02,654 --> 00:37:05,324 Would look radically different. 699 00:37:07,291 --> 00:37:08,491 One thing that I think 700 00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,893 Initially took guts was the 701 00:37:12,296 --> 00:37:14,356 The opening card of the studio itself. 702 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:17,466 This was, I think, 17 years ago. 703 00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:20,399 And it was just a stupid little joke. 704 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:23,135 My girlfriend at the time thought that, 705 00:37:23,141 --> 00:37:26,677 Oh, I'm going to lose the one client 706 00:37:26,678 --> 00:37:28,508 By sending this out. 707 00:37:28,513 --> 00:37:30,681 But there were one or two 708 00:37:30,682 --> 00:37:31,982 Other clients that followed. 709 00:37:31,984 --> 00:37:33,984 So, it actually worked. 710 00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:38,089 Shit, no, shit, it would have to be much higher. 711 00:37:38,090 --> 00:37:39,020 Fuck. 712 00:37:43,494 --> 00:37:45,201 You see, like the distance between the H 713 00:37:45,202 --> 00:37:46,827 And the a is now too big. 714 00:37:46,832 --> 00:37:48,001 - Okay, the one thing 715 00:37:48,002 --> 00:37:49,330 That we haven't tried, 716 00:37:49,334 --> 00:37:51,504 Which would, again, take probably five, 10 minutes 717 00:37:51,505 --> 00:37:55,573 If we didn't talk to each other, at all. 718 00:37:55,574 --> 00:37:57,341 Hillman was a rock star. 719 00:37:57,342 --> 00:37:59,442 And I don't mean this metaphorically. 720 00:37:59,444 --> 00:38:03,614 I mean he had a major label recording contract. 721 00:38:03,615 --> 00:38:06,215 And he'd toured for 10 years. 722 00:38:06,218 --> 00:38:07,918 And how do I know about this? 723 00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:09,289 From Wikipedia. 724 00:38:10,354 --> 00:38:14,024 He, himself never really talks about it. 725 00:38:14,026 --> 00:38:15,356 - I would say if we're gonna do it, 726 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,696 I don't think there's any real point in doing it, 727 00:38:18,697 --> 00:38:19,697 When we can do it with... 728 00:38:19,698 --> 00:38:20,528 you're gonna be right, 729 00:38:20,532 --> 00:38:21,362 You're gonna be right. 730 00:38:21,366 --> 00:38:22,696 But just give me like five minutes. 731 00:38:22,701 --> 00:38:23,870 We won't even say anything. 732 00:38:23,871 --> 00:38:26,599 Just let me see the "having" as it was before. 733 00:38:26,605 --> 00:38:27,795 Where we were. 734 00:38:27,806 --> 00:38:29,266 And there might 735 00:38:29,274 --> 00:38:32,814 Be some surprising new thing that happens. 736 00:38:40,117 --> 00:38:42,286 - Well, Sheenah thinks I should be less cautious 737 00:38:42,287 --> 00:38:44,047 In my relationships. 738 00:38:45,389 --> 00:38:47,458 And I have been infatuated 739 00:38:47,459 --> 00:38:49,489 With a very private woman 740 00:38:49,494 --> 00:38:51,729 In my hometown in Austria 741 00:38:51,730 --> 00:38:54,398 For a very long time now. 742 00:38:54,399 --> 00:38:56,467 And she would hate to be 743 00:38:56,468 --> 00:38:58,168 Mentioned in this film. 744 00:38:58,170 --> 00:39:01,170 So I'll just call her miss private. 745 00:39:06,777 --> 00:39:08,746 When I think of her, it's never sexual 746 00:39:08,747 --> 00:39:12,917 It's always about some smart thing she said 747 00:39:12,918 --> 00:39:15,918 Or some nice thing that she's done. 748 00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,655 I'm going to Austria right now 749 00:39:19,658 --> 00:39:24,258 And let's see, maybe I finally get 750 00:39:24,262 --> 00:39:28,262 My shit together and I'll be able to tell her. 751 00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:35,497 Of course, miss private came. 752 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,370 - Miss private, yeah. 753 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:42,670 - She told me that she made some decisions, 754 00:40:42,674 --> 00:40:47,011 That she has to stop that safe, mousy life back home. 755 00:40:47,012 --> 00:40:47,842 - Oh, really? 756 00:40:47,846 --> 00:40:50,446 And I sort of looked at her and said, well, 757 00:40:50,449 --> 00:40:52,079 That, uh, that sounds 758 00:40:52,083 --> 00:40:54,283 Pretty good for my cause. 759 00:40:55,219 --> 00:40:57,349 Then we kissed and 760 00:40:57,355 --> 00:40:59,855 It basically went from there. 761 00:41:01,425 --> 00:41:04,185 She was here in a week when new york was at its finest. 762 00:41:04,196 --> 00:41:05,196 Like, you know, 763 00:41:05,197 --> 00:41:06,027 - Oh, I do. 764 00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:10,731 It was super warm, the sun was shining every single day. 765 00:41:10,735 --> 00:41:12,695 And I feel that it was 766 00:41:12,704 --> 00:41:14,204 More new york than me 767 00:41:14,206 --> 00:41:15,266 Who won her over. 768 00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:17,143 New york was so much on my side. 769 00:41:17,144 --> 00:41:18,582 - Yeah. - - that's your rival. 770 00:41:18,583 --> 00:41:21,137 - Yes, yeah. 771 00:41:40,564 --> 00:41:41,974 - 2:00, okay, perfect. 772 00:41:41,975 --> 00:41:43,227 Okay, goodbye. 773 00:41:44,735 --> 00:41:46,095 He'll be here at 2:00. 774 00:41:46,104 --> 00:41:47,438 - Oh, excellent. 775 00:41:47,439 --> 00:41:49,169 The institute for contemporary art in Philadelphia 776 00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:51,574 Invited us to create an exhibit. 777 00:41:51,576 --> 00:41:54,836 I immediately thought, this could be about happiness. 778 00:41:54,846 --> 00:41:56,176 The happy show. 779 00:41:57,081 --> 00:41:59,081 I've been doing promotional 780 00:41:59,084 --> 00:42:01,584 Things for so long now. 781 00:42:01,586 --> 00:42:04,246 This could be a great possibility 782 00:42:04,256 --> 00:42:06,156 To use the language of design 783 00:42:06,157 --> 00:42:08,587 For something more personal. 784 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,869 When she stayed over 785 00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:22,310 Like, for me, it was oddly friendshippy. 786 00:42:23,107 --> 00:42:23,937 - Really? 787 00:42:23,942 --> 00:42:24,772 - Yeah. 788 00:42:24,776 --> 00:42:26,376 - Not passionate. - Passionate. 789 00:42:26,378 --> 00:42:29,678 - And oddly companionate. 790 00:42:29,681 --> 00:42:30,611 - Mm-hmm. 791 00:42:30,615 --> 00:42:31,675 - I mean, you know, 792 00:42:31,683 --> 00:42:33,483 Even down to the the point 793 00:42:33,485 --> 00:42:35,785 That she smelled very familiar. 794 00:42:35,787 --> 00:42:37,987 Or more particularly, she smelled like my sister. 795 00:42:37,989 --> 00:42:41,458 But on the other hand it's also not so sexy. 796 00:42:41,459 --> 00:42:43,659 - It's not sexy at all. 797 00:42:43,662 --> 00:42:47,131 - This represents what it would look like 798 00:42:47,132 --> 00:42:48,632 When it's a generated 799 00:42:48,633 --> 00:42:51,233 Pedal power, okay? 800 00:42:52,202 --> 00:42:56,072 - Her concern was that I'm very, very rational. 801 00:42:56,074 --> 00:42:58,142 Actually, too rational for her. 802 00:42:58,143 --> 00:43:02,313 And I make this whole relationship so rational. 803 00:43:02,314 --> 00:43:05,014 Yeah, it's just not emotional enough for her. 804 00:43:05,016 --> 00:43:06,846 - And what does she exactly mean by that? 805 00:43:06,851 --> 00:43:08,521 - I think what she means by it 806 00:43:08,522 --> 00:43:11,090 Is that there is probably not 807 00:43:12,923 --> 00:43:14,523 I don't know, enough gazing 808 00:43:14,526 --> 00:43:16,056 Into each others eyes. 809 00:43:16,061 --> 00:43:17,331 - Romance, you mean? 810 00:43:17,332 --> 00:43:23,329 If there is such a thing as passionate love, 811 00:43:23,335 --> 00:43:26,995 I am not in passionate love with miss private. 812 00:43:27,005 --> 00:43:28,235 - So, she senses that? 813 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,269 - Yes. 814 00:43:29,274 --> 00:43:30,544 - Yes. - - yeah. 815 00:43:32,376 --> 00:43:34,076 I'm trying to get like a perfect packed one. 816 00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:35,509 So, the end is the test. 817 00:43:35,513 --> 00:43:36,853 - That looks nice too, though. 818 00:43:36,854 --> 00:43:39,178 Using them like this. 819 00:43:39,184 --> 00:43:40,517 - Yeah, yep. 820 00:43:40,518 --> 00:43:41,848 - Fine, let's go for the coffees. 821 00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:42,793 Yes, yeah. 822 00:43:43,687 --> 00:43:45,387 Hillman is very sick. 823 00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:46,820 You're okay now? 824 00:43:49,593 --> 00:43:52,363 He does not wanna talk about it. 825 00:43:53,364 --> 00:43:56,433 He's been absent a lot lately, 826 00:43:56,434 --> 00:44:00,474 And the whole team has been avoiding the issue. 827 00:44:03,307 --> 00:44:06,707 I'm not quite sure how to bring it up. 828 00:44:06,711 --> 00:44:07,811 I was missing you badly, 829 00:44:07,812 --> 00:44:10,482 And missing the input badly. 830 00:44:43,814 --> 00:44:45,114 - I want you to be involved 831 00:44:45,116 --> 00:44:49,086 Every single step of the way. 832 00:44:49,087 --> 00:44:50,517 - On all things. 833 00:44:50,522 --> 00:44:53,422 I'm extremely aware that the little graphic shots 834 00:44:53,425 --> 00:44:55,085 Are not gonna make the movie. 835 00:44:55,093 --> 00:44:55,933 They're gonna be sweet 836 00:44:55,934 --> 00:44:59,296 Nice little things, the movie will need a story. 837 00:44:59,297 --> 00:45:00,797 And it needs to be emotional. 838 00:45:00,799 --> 00:45:04,799 And I think that I'm very much relying on you for that. 839 00:45:18,115 --> 00:45:22,385 - So miss private and I split up. 840 00:45:22,387 --> 00:45:23,217 - You did? 841 00:45:23,221 --> 00:45:28,621 She said, well, I think we both made up our minds. 842 00:45:28,626 --> 00:45:31,956 And we clearly both knew what she was talking about. 843 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,997 Ultimately my guess would 844 00:45:33,998 --> 00:45:35,398 Be that that is, you know, 845 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,837 Just another boring fear of commitment. 846 00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:40,968 - I think I called it trapped, 847 00:45:40,972 --> 00:45:42,239 And you called it bound. 848 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,140 Do you remember that? 849 00:45:43,141 --> 00:45:46,041 - I think you have a big fear of being trapped 850 00:45:46,044 --> 00:45:48,644 In a conflictual situation. 851 00:45:48,646 --> 00:45:51,746 And most people who avoid commitment 852 00:45:52,483 --> 00:45:54,683 Are really avoiding conflict. 853 00:45:54,686 --> 00:45:57,686 - It's strange, I know with people that work with me, 854 00:45:57,689 --> 00:45:59,757 After 10 minutes, 855 00:45:59,758 --> 00:46:01,258 No problem at all. 856 00:46:01,259 --> 00:46:03,327 And I've not been somebody 857 00:46:03,328 --> 00:46:07,397 Who falls in love at first sight at all. 858 00:46:07,398 --> 00:46:08,998 You have a lot of caution. 859 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,500 - Yep. 860 00:46:10,502 --> 00:46:12,671 - A lot of caution about falling in love. 861 00:46:12,672 --> 00:46:14,700 Maybe not about everything in life, 862 00:46:14,706 --> 00:46:17,806 But certainly about falling in love. 863 00:46:20,377 --> 00:46:22,207 - I guess, you know, what I'm trying 864 00:46:22,213 --> 00:46:23,383 To figure out here is whether something about 865 00:46:23,384 --> 00:46:24,781 You or your strengths, 866 00:46:24,783 --> 00:46:26,183 The way you live your life, 867 00:46:26,184 --> 00:46:27,684 Makes it simply difficult for you to connect 868 00:46:27,685 --> 00:46:29,345 Deeply with women. 869 00:46:29,354 --> 00:46:30,194 - Yeah. 870 00:46:30,195 --> 00:46:32,358 And that's why we call it falling. 871 00:46:32,359 --> 00:46:33,717 You don't have to choose fall. 872 00:46:33,725 --> 00:46:36,755 You're just walking along and you fall. 873 00:46:36,761 --> 00:46:40,361 It's developing a long term companionate love relationship, 874 00:46:40,365 --> 00:46:41,795 That's what's harder. 875 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,070 - So, do you think that... 876 00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:49,370 That's the question, do you think that a long term 877 00:46:49,374 --> 00:46:51,712 Companionate relationship is possible without the 878 00:46:51,713 --> 00:46:53,409 Passion that comes up front... 879 00:46:53,411 --> 00:46:54,611 - Absolutely. - It's absolutely possible. 880 00:46:54,612 --> 00:46:55,582 - It is possible? - Yes. 881 00:46:55,583 --> 00:46:56,810 - Yeah. - Yes. 882 00:46:56,815 --> 00:47:00,215 And that's the way traditional marriages often were. 883 00:47:00,218 --> 00:47:01,918 You simply put the people together. 884 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,888 They might not love 885 00:47:02,889 --> 00:47:03,717 Each other at first, 886 00:47:03,721 --> 00:47:05,121 They don't know each other. 887 00:47:05,123 --> 00:47:06,093 But they can develop very, 888 00:47:06,094 --> 00:47:08,220 Very deep companionate love relationships. 889 00:47:08,226 --> 00:47:09,056 So, it's not that the 890 00:47:09,060 --> 00:47:11,228 Passionate love is essential. 891 00:47:11,229 --> 00:47:13,599 But it is one of the greatest experiences 892 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,567 And for somebody who craves peak experiences, 893 00:47:16,568 --> 00:47:18,598 And strong emotions, 894 00:47:18,603 --> 00:47:20,903 It is one that I would not want you to miss. 895 00:47:20,905 --> 00:47:22,405 - But from your point of view, 896 00:47:22,407 --> 00:47:25,167 Miss private and I could actually have 897 00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,176 Developed a beautiful relationship 898 00:47:27,178 --> 00:47:29,248 Even though it didn't feel very passionate 899 00:47:29,249 --> 00:47:31,347 - At the beginning. - Absolutely, absolutely. 900 00:47:37,988 --> 00:47:40,188 - Let's see that last one again. 901 00:47:40,191 --> 00:47:42,791 - It just ends with the plane. 902 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,860 - I'm really trying to work more on the film 903 00:47:46,865 --> 00:47:50,095 And less on our regular commercial projects. 904 00:47:50,101 --> 00:47:52,769 - And then you'll think of some ideas? 905 00:47:52,770 --> 00:47:53,600 - Yes. 906 00:47:53,605 --> 00:47:54,435 - Great. 907 00:47:54,439 --> 00:47:55,369 - Should we set a deadline? 908 00:47:55,373 --> 00:47:57,273 - Otherwise, I'm just gonna forget. 909 00:47:57,275 --> 00:47:58,265 - Yeah. 910 00:47:58,276 --> 00:47:59,676 - Jessica has great ideas, 911 00:47:59,677 --> 00:48:01,507 Knows how to execute them, 912 00:48:01,512 --> 00:48:03,182 And most important of all, 913 00:48:03,183 --> 00:48:04,611 Has the wherewithal 914 00:48:04,616 --> 00:48:06,146 To make them real. 915 00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:08,120 - Well, we could film, like, crops. 916 00:48:08,121 --> 00:48:09,719 - Yeah. 917 00:48:09,721 --> 00:48:11,191 Even though she's super young, 918 00:48:11,192 --> 00:48:14,057 She's crazily experienced. 919 00:48:14,058 --> 00:48:17,127 I mean, she designed a website showing other designers 920 00:48:17,128 --> 00:48:19,728 How to design websites at 13. 921 00:48:32,643 --> 00:48:34,413 I asked her if she wants to become 922 00:48:34,414 --> 00:48:36,512 A partner in the studio. 923 00:48:37,681 --> 00:48:38,611 She did. 924 00:48:38,616 --> 00:48:40,976 - Pouring like a yellow paint or something, 925 00:48:40,985 --> 00:48:43,185 And you saw the dripping. 926 00:48:45,656 --> 00:48:48,556 Maybe we start with the plants. 927 00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:51,328 - We renamed the Studio Sagmeister and Walsh, 928 00:48:51,329 --> 00:48:54,829 And designed a card announcing that. 929 00:48:54,832 --> 00:48:56,672 We might need some books for you. 930 00:48:56,673 --> 00:49:01,338 - Okay, and I think we need about this many. 931 00:49:01,339 --> 00:49:02,769 - Okay. 932 00:49:04,074 --> 00:49:05,574 - Okay, and here we are. 933 00:49:05,576 --> 00:49:09,106 Okay, guys, and start looking at me. 934 00:49:09,113 --> 00:49:10,280 Look above me. 935 00:49:10,281 --> 00:49:12,281 And you're just looking at each other 936 00:49:12,283 --> 00:49:13,383 As you're standing there. 937 00:49:13,384 --> 00:49:14,524 Cool, okay, and now 938 00:49:14,525 --> 00:49:16,049 Switch it around. 939 00:49:17,254 --> 00:49:18,922 Great, again, both looking at me. 940 00:49:18,923 --> 00:49:19,863 Great. 941 00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:22,018 Okay. 942 00:49:22,026 --> 00:49:25,526 - Oh, my god, did you tan for this, specially? 943 00:49:25,530 --> 00:49:26,460 - Maybe. 944 00:49:42,980 --> 00:49:46,216 d I have a wound d 945 00:49:46,217 --> 00:49:49,587 d that never will heal d 946 00:49:55,559 --> 00:49:57,059 d and you are d 947 00:49:57,061 --> 00:50:01,161 d the one that constantly peels d 948 00:50:08,438 --> 00:50:11,408 d The skin away d 949 00:50:11,409 --> 00:50:14,679 d each and every day d 950 00:50:20,584 --> 00:50:22,753 d why don't you please d 951 00:50:22,754 --> 00:50:24,321 d why don't you please d 952 00:50:24,322 --> 00:50:27,692 d why don't you please d 953 00:50:32,596 --> 00:50:36,166 d and I have a way d 954 00:50:36,167 --> 00:50:39,697 d of seeing these things d 955 00:50:45,275 --> 00:50:49,275 d the skin on your bones d 956 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,720 d it comes deadly aloes d 957 00:50:57,788 --> 00:50:59,518 d pull it away d 958 00:50:59,524 --> 00:51:01,291 d pull it away d 959 00:51:01,292 --> 00:51:03,962 d pull it away d 960 00:51:13,470 --> 00:51:15,240 - okay. 961 00:51:18,875 --> 00:51:19,805 Okay. 962 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,649 - Well, I felt 963 00:51:25,650 --> 00:51:27,420 It was sort of strange that 964 00:51:27,421 --> 00:51:30,348 We are making a movie on happiness 965 00:51:31,254 --> 00:51:35,058 And we having a director, a co-director, 966 00:51:35,059 --> 00:51:37,829 Who is, you know, seriously ill. 967 00:51:39,429 --> 00:51:41,498 How do you feel? 968 00:51:41,499 --> 00:51:42,429 - Just 969 00:51:45,068 --> 00:51:48,698 Having been dealt a set of cards 970 00:51:51,007 --> 00:51:53,277 That are really difficult, 971 00:51:54,077 --> 00:51:56,877 You know, and no breaks. 972 00:51:56,881 --> 00:51:58,781 - In some ways, I'm actually surprised 973 00:51:58,783 --> 00:52:01,683 That you still wanna be a part of it. 974 00:52:01,686 --> 00:52:03,946 For all the sort of daily crap 975 00:52:03,955 --> 00:52:08,855 That documentary film making brings with it. 976 00:52:08,860 --> 00:52:11,460 You know, that you don't just say, oh, no. 977 00:52:11,462 --> 00:52:13,932 - You know, I mean, I've got two kids. 978 00:52:13,933 --> 00:52:17,701 I like to see them watch me work. 979 00:52:20,103 --> 00:52:22,772 It's really gratifying. 980 00:52:22,773 --> 00:52:26,243 They get to see what their Dad does. 981 00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:29,975 It floats your, 982 00:52:38,722 --> 00:52:40,492 Well-being, I guess. 983 00:52:43,894 --> 00:52:45,494 - There were times 984 00:52:48,398 --> 00:52:50,728 When I'd almost wish it would 985 00:52:50,735 --> 00:52:52,795 Be the other way around. 986 00:52:52,803 --> 00:52:55,003 I mean, are you angry at all, or? 987 00:52:55,006 --> 00:52:57,736 - I've done the angry thing. 988 00:52:57,742 --> 00:52:58,712 So heavily. 989 00:52:59,843 --> 00:53:00,783 Chairs. 990 00:53:01,945 --> 00:53:02,875 Books. 991 00:53:03,847 --> 00:53:04,907 All kinds of things. 992 00:53:04,916 --> 00:53:06,076 - What, you've thrown chairs? 993 00:53:06,083 --> 00:53:07,083 - Oh, sure. 994 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,190 I did that. 995 00:53:12,289 --> 00:53:14,658 And all it did, really, 996 00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:18,029 Was scare the kids. 997 00:53:18,762 --> 00:53:21,232 Just scared my wife, 998 00:53:23,099 --> 00:53:25,729 And made me feel bad. 999 00:53:46,323 --> 00:53:47,623 - For Hillman, the 1000 00:53:47,625 --> 00:53:48,785 Last year of his life 1001 00:53:48,793 --> 00:53:50,360 Was not about changing, 1002 00:53:50,361 --> 00:53:51,491 But about trying to keep 1003 00:53:51,495 --> 00:53:53,925 Everything exactly the same. 1004 00:53:56,132 --> 00:54:00,136 He wanted to eat ice cream with our kids. 1005 00:54:00,137 --> 00:54:02,806 He wanted to work on the happy film. 1006 00:54:02,807 --> 00:54:05,367 He wanted to lie in bed and talk. 1007 00:54:05,376 --> 00:54:09,306 And he wanted to have friends over for dinner. 1008 00:54:11,181 --> 00:54:13,821 Why should I accept death, he'd ask me, 1009 00:54:13,822 --> 00:54:16,318 When my life is so beautiful? 1010 00:55:14,044 --> 00:55:16,854 - I'm not sad enough. 1011 00:55:19,482 --> 00:55:20,422 I'm sad 1012 00:55:21,484 --> 00:55:23,594 That I'm not sad enough. 1013 00:55:29,592 --> 00:55:33,532 I had a wonderful conversation with Christina. 1014 00:55:38,601 --> 00:55:40,101 She is so honest. 1015 00:55:41,604 --> 00:55:42,914 I really can learn from her. 1016 00:55:42,915 --> 00:55:46,276 I mean, she really goes deep. 1017 00:55:46,277 --> 00:55:48,437 You know, I asked her how she's doing. 1018 00:55:48,446 --> 00:55:50,576 And she said, well, 1019 00:55:50,581 --> 00:55:53,016 Tess is just thriving. 1020 00:55:53,017 --> 00:55:53,917 Her youngest daughter 1021 00:55:53,918 --> 00:55:55,348 Is just thriving 1022 00:55:56,453 --> 00:55:58,088 Since Hillman died. 1023 00:55:58,089 --> 00:56:00,259 What a difficult thing to admit. 1024 00:56:03,860 --> 00:56:05,929 And you notice that it's just, 1025 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:08,860 There was so much sadness in their house, 1026 00:56:08,866 --> 00:56:10,796 That it's so great to 1027 00:56:10,801 --> 00:56:12,769 Have that sadness lifted. 1028 00:56:12,770 --> 00:56:14,770 And that, if she's, later on, 1029 00:56:14,772 --> 00:56:16,212 I'm sure that she's gonna realize 1030 00:56:16,213 --> 00:56:18,837 That she has no Dad. 1031 00:56:18,843 --> 00:56:20,283 And there's going to be difficulties with that. 1032 00:56:20,284 --> 00:56:22,877 But right now, she's thriving. 1033 00:56:23,613 --> 00:56:25,553 And when I said, well, 1034 00:56:26,516 --> 00:56:28,976 Correct me if I'm wrong but, 1035 00:56:28,986 --> 00:56:33,286 I would think that Hillman would be thrilled with that, 1036 00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:35,458 She said, oh, was 1037 00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:36,329 Not quite sure, 1038 00:56:36,330 --> 00:56:37,457 She was sort of quiet, and 1039 00:56:37,461 --> 00:56:39,291 I said, well, or not. 1040 00:56:39,729 --> 00:56:42,699 There's a darkness in all of us. 1041 00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:44,470 And an imperfection. 1042 00:57:33,917 --> 00:57:36,617 - It only hits me now. 1043 00:57:38,087 --> 00:57:39,117 I miss him. 1044 00:57:40,790 --> 00:57:41,890 I really do. 1045 00:57:55,371 --> 00:57:57,711 - Given the information that we've gathered 1046 00:57:57,712 --> 00:57:59,738 In terms of your genetics, 1047 00:57:59,743 --> 00:58:01,083 I have to say that you're 1048 00:58:01,084 --> 00:58:03,546 Probably the healthiest person 1049 00:58:03,547 --> 00:58:06,877 That I've seen all week in my practice. 1050 00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:12,492 So let's talk, then, about anxiety. 1051 00:58:13,556 --> 00:58:16,386 - If I would go into a room 1052 00:58:16,393 --> 00:58:18,063 Where I don't know anybody, 1053 00:58:18,064 --> 00:58:20,296 I can be quite good about that 1054 00:58:20,297 --> 00:58:21,557 With a little bit of a going 1055 00:58:21,565 --> 00:58:23,825 Over a bump, introduce myself. 1056 00:58:23,834 --> 00:58:26,944 Or I can also be anxious about that. 1057 00:58:27,904 --> 00:58:29,914 - And you don't suffer from being lonely? 1058 00:58:29,915 --> 00:58:31,307 - No. 1059 00:58:31,308 --> 00:58:32,438 No, I really don't. 1060 00:58:32,443 --> 00:58:33,977 And spending time by yourself 1061 00:58:33,978 --> 00:58:34,808 Is okay? 1062 00:58:34,812 --> 00:58:37,450 - You're okay in your own company? - Yes. 1063 00:58:37,451 --> 00:58:39,078 - So, your anxiety levels then 1064 00:58:39,083 --> 00:58:41,951 - I'm a little bit afraid I'm painting this 1065 00:58:41,952 --> 00:58:43,090 Picture a little bit too rosy. 1066 00:58:43,091 --> 00:58:44,247 I'm afraid at the end I'm not 1067 00:58:44,255 --> 00:58:46,255 Gonna get anything because... 1068 00:58:46,257 --> 00:58:47,917 - well, we'll talk about it though. 1069 00:58:47,925 --> 00:58:49,755 I mean, if you were coming to me 1070 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,496 And reporting mild anxiety that you wanted to 1071 00:58:53,497 --> 00:58:55,457 Do something about, 1072 00:58:55,466 --> 00:58:57,926 I wouldn't be opposed to prescribing 1073 00:58:57,935 --> 00:58:59,795 Something like Lexapro 1074 00:58:59,803 --> 00:59:02,503 In a low dose for you, as a trial. 1075 00:59:02,506 --> 00:59:03,866 - Yeah. 1076 00:59:03,874 --> 00:59:05,774 - But it has side effects. 1077 00:59:05,776 --> 00:59:11,046 - The side effects are dry mouth, headache, GI upset, 1078 00:59:13,716 --> 00:59:15,676 Anxiety, insomnia... 1079 00:59:15,686 --> 00:59:18,786 That's not a very good side effect to have, no? 1080 00:59:18,789 --> 00:59:22,219 - These are all possible side effects. 1081 00:59:22,226 --> 00:59:25,126 98% of the people who take Lexapro 1082 00:59:25,129 --> 00:59:28,459 Feel calmer and feel better. 1083 00:59:28,465 --> 00:59:31,195 The other thing that happens when you first start a 1084 00:59:31,201 --> 00:59:32,801 Medication like this, 1085 00:59:32,803 --> 00:59:35,243 Your brain is going through some changes. 1086 00:59:35,244 --> 00:59:38,207 Actually, your neural circuits are sort of 1087 00:59:38,208 --> 00:59:40,138 Being rearranged. 1088 00:59:40,144 --> 00:59:43,146 If everybody knew how complicated it was 1089 00:59:43,147 --> 00:59:44,307 And what these drugs do, 1090 00:59:44,315 --> 00:59:46,175 Probably, nobody would take them. 1091 01:00:15,278 --> 01:00:17,678 - Yeah, this is the second day. 1092 01:00:17,681 --> 01:00:21,521 And I definitely had to 1093 01:00:23,553 --> 01:00:28,323 Schlep myself and force myself to go running. 1094 01:00:34,631 --> 01:00:38,031 This is four days now of Lexapro. 1095 01:00:38,534 --> 01:00:40,374 And I definitely feel 1096 01:00:41,904 --> 01:00:43,406 Less energetic. 1097 01:00:43,407 --> 01:00:45,067 I sleep more. 1098 01:00:45,075 --> 01:00:47,675 Today I even had blotchy skin. 1099 01:00:48,544 --> 01:00:51,214 There's actually absolutely 1100 01:00:51,215 --> 01:00:53,415 No betterment whatsoever. 1101 01:00:57,787 --> 01:00:58,917 There might be one thing 1102 01:00:58,922 --> 01:01:01,722 That we could alter slightly, 1103 01:01:01,725 --> 01:01:04,225 Rather than having to abandon 1104 01:01:04,228 --> 01:01:05,928 The experiment completely. 1105 01:01:05,929 --> 01:01:07,159 And that would be to 1106 01:01:07,164 --> 01:01:08,964 Change the medicine 1107 01:01:08,966 --> 01:01:10,296 To a nighttime dose. 1108 01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:11,400 - Oh, excellent. 1109 01:01:11,402 --> 01:01:14,172 Meaning that I get lame at night and lethargic, 1110 01:01:14,173 --> 01:01:16,571 And have the energy during the day? 1111 01:01:16,573 --> 01:01:17,411 - Right. 1112 01:01:17,412 --> 01:01:18,338 - Perfect. 1113 01:01:29,787 --> 01:01:34,857 In all my lethargy, one wonderful thing happened 1114 01:01:34,858 --> 01:01:37,458 Though and it was that 1115 01:01:37,461 --> 01:01:39,701 A very wonderful interviewer came over 1116 01:01:39,702 --> 01:01:41,497 To set up an interview for 1117 01:01:41,498 --> 01:01:43,866 Some German arty magazine. 1118 01:01:43,867 --> 01:01:44,797 And... 1119 01:01:46,803 --> 01:01:48,938 We just hit it off. 1120 01:01:48,939 --> 01:01:51,409 There was ample time to talk. 1121 01:01:52,642 --> 01:01:54,282 And she seems so positive. 1122 01:01:54,283 --> 01:01:56,446 And so, we just came 1123 01:01:56,447 --> 01:01:58,047 Back onto the roof 1124 01:01:58,948 --> 01:02:00,278 And stayed up 1125 01:02:00,284 --> 01:02:03,052 Until the sun came up. 1126 01:02:03,053 --> 01:02:06,663 And I'll see her for dinner again tonight. 1127 01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,730 Okay, who are you? 1128 01:02:15,733 --> 01:02:16,733 - Who am I? 1129 01:02:21,170 --> 01:02:24,009 - What do you have to say about happiness? 1130 01:02:24,010 --> 01:02:25,407 - I enjoy being happy. 1131 01:02:25,409 --> 01:02:27,639 How I came about it is that I definitely realized 1132 01:02:27,644 --> 01:02:30,346 That I'm not so much in control. 1133 01:02:30,347 --> 01:02:32,847 I'm happy to experience it, you know, 1134 01:02:32,850 --> 01:02:34,550 There might be Moments where I don't, 1135 01:02:34,551 --> 01:02:36,081 They're not the most 1136 01:02:36,086 --> 01:02:37,386 Desirable Moments, 1137 01:02:37,387 --> 01:02:41,517 But at the Moment, I'm doing quite well. 1138 01:02:41,525 --> 01:02:44,425 So I would say bring it on. 1139 01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:45,828 - What I loved about the book was 1140 01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:49,929 That he very clearly states that in his experience, 1141 01:02:49,933 --> 01:02:52,273 Three things work the best. 1142 01:02:53,669 --> 01:02:57,039 And I am now speaking to you on drugs. 1143 01:02:58,175 --> 01:03:01,005 I started this regimen two weeks ago 1144 01:03:01,011 --> 01:03:02,841 And I truly hated it. 1145 01:03:03,613 --> 01:03:07,683 And then four days ago I met a girl. 1146 01:03:08,851 --> 01:03:11,291 And that changed everything. 1147 01:03:12,522 --> 01:03:16,362 So, when you're in between drugs and girls, 1148 01:03:17,693 --> 01:03:19,033 No competition. 1149 01:03:20,396 --> 01:03:21,796 No competition. 1150 01:03:24,935 --> 01:03:26,225 My favorite statistics. 1151 01:03:26,236 --> 01:03:28,696 There's one comparing companionate love 1152 01:03:28,705 --> 01:03:30,535 To passionate love. 1153 01:03:30,541 --> 01:03:35,181 So, clearly, I am now in the top level. 1154 01:03:38,314 --> 01:03:40,754 But Jonathan says that in his research, 1155 01:03:40,755 --> 01:03:42,551 This lasts for six months. 1156 01:03:42,553 --> 01:03:44,223 If you look at the whole thing 1157 01:03:44,224 --> 01:03:46,561 From a 60 year perspective, 1158 01:03:48,758 --> 01:03:50,728 The passionate lovers look pretty silly. 1159 01:03:50,729 --> 01:03:52,457 It looks like a flash in the pan. 1160 01:03:52,462 --> 01:03:54,232 While the companionate lovers 1161 01:03:54,233 --> 01:03:56,731 Are really the ones that stayed. 1162 01:03:56,733 --> 01:04:03,072 So, if by November, I'm not so passionate in love 1163 01:04:03,073 --> 01:04:06,443 With the girl that I met five days ago, 1164 01:04:07,476 --> 01:04:11,076 I don't have to wonder about it, because it's natural. 1165 01:04:11,081 --> 01:04:12,851 Because if I would have those kind of Dopamines 1166 01:04:12,852 --> 01:04:15,480 In my body for longer than six months, 1167 01:04:15,485 --> 01:04:19,815 It would actually be very unhealthy for me. 1168 01:04:19,823 --> 01:04:20,861 - Like, so many people thought 1169 01:04:20,862 --> 01:04:21,818 That it was a performance, 1170 01:04:21,825 --> 01:04:25,125 That it was not real, that I made you up 1171 01:04:25,128 --> 01:04:27,597 Basically for the talk. 1172 01:04:27,598 --> 01:04:30,928 - Like the whole thing was kind of, like, too good to be true. 1173 01:04:30,934 --> 01:04:32,774 - I told you, I was not lying when I was telling you 1174 01:04:32,775 --> 01:04:35,438 That the pharmaceutical company hired me. 1175 01:04:35,439 --> 01:04:37,607 It's all business, Hun. 1176 01:04:37,608 --> 01:04:42,278 You know, like, and I will expire in three months. 1177 01:04:42,279 --> 01:04:45,548 - Well, I can tell you that 1178 01:04:45,549 --> 01:04:47,049 I love big Pharma, 1179 01:04:47,050 --> 01:04:48,650 I love big Pharma. 1180 01:05:05,134 --> 01:05:08,804 - I have to download a song from nick cave 1181 01:05:08,805 --> 01:05:10,805 Called into my arms. 1182 01:05:10,807 --> 01:05:14,037 And I knew, wow, it's all so cheesy, 1183 01:05:14,044 --> 01:05:15,814 But that's gonna be our song. 1184 01:05:15,815 --> 01:05:17,512 I just knew. 1185 01:05:17,514 --> 01:05:21,784 d And I don't believe in the existence of angels d 1186 01:05:27,690 --> 01:05:32,990 d But looking at you I wonder if that's true d 1187 01:05:34,997 --> 01:05:37,997 d To each burn a candle for you d 1188 01:05:38,001 --> 01:05:41,337 d To make bright and clear your path d 1189 01:05:41,338 --> 01:05:44,008 d And to walk like Christ in grace and love d 1190 01:05:44,009 --> 01:05:47,837 d And guide you into my arms d 1191 01:05:49,845 --> 01:05:54,275 d into my arms, o lord d 1192 01:05:54,917 --> 01:05:59,447 d into my arms, o lord d 1193 01:05:59,889 --> 01:06:04,359 d into my arms, o lord d 1194 01:06:04,361 --> 01:06:05,361 - Happy? 1195 01:06:05,362 --> 01:06:08,062 d Into my arms d 1196 01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:18,540 d but I believe in love d 1197 01:06:18,542 --> 01:06:21,412 - I asked Veza yesterday 1198 01:06:22,912 --> 01:06:23,882 If she wants to get married 1199 01:06:23,883 --> 01:06:25,880 To me and she said yes. 1200 01:06:27,383 --> 01:06:29,783 - I love the idea of committing to each other. 1201 01:06:29,786 --> 01:06:31,716 And being married to oneself 1202 01:06:31,722 --> 01:06:33,892 And being also married to 1203 01:06:35,157 --> 01:06:37,287 A partner who you truly love. 1204 01:06:37,294 --> 01:06:38,394 And I see that in you. 1205 01:06:38,395 --> 01:06:40,125 You're the first man who definitely 1206 01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:42,398 Sweeps me off the ground. 1207 01:06:42,399 --> 01:06:45,329 And definitely takes my breath away. 1208 01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:46,265 And, you know, makes my 1209 01:06:46,269 --> 01:06:48,539 Heart go boom, boom, boom. 1210 01:06:49,472 --> 01:06:50,740 Yeah. 1211 01:06:50,741 --> 01:06:53,141 You know, I really love you. 1212 01:06:53,143 --> 01:06:54,243 I really do. 1213 01:06:55,945 --> 01:06:57,245 So, enough now. 1214 01:06:57,247 --> 01:06:58,907 - I love you back. 1215 01:06:58,915 --> 01:07:01,075 - On three. 1216 01:07:01,084 --> 01:07:02,024 One, two. 1217 01:07:05,187 --> 01:07:06,817 - I used to say that this is so stupid, 1218 01:07:06,823 --> 01:07:09,792 Expecting the girl to be great in bed, 1219 01:07:09,793 --> 01:07:11,593 Be kind, be intelligent, 1220 01:07:11,595 --> 01:07:13,355 Funny, beautiful. 1221 01:07:13,363 --> 01:07:15,998 The crazy thing is that she is it. 1222 01:07:15,999 --> 01:07:17,329 I didn't think that there was somebody 1223 01:07:17,334 --> 01:07:18,934 That perfect out there. 1224 01:07:18,935 --> 01:07:20,635 I've never been so in love in my life. 1225 01:07:20,637 --> 01:07:21,767 Never. 1226 01:07:21,772 --> 01:07:24,940 I asked her to marry me and she said yes. 1227 01:07:24,941 --> 01:07:26,441 This is all after 10 days, 1228 01:07:26,443 --> 01:07:28,043 And this is the first woman in my life 1229 01:07:28,045 --> 01:07:30,675 That I've ever asked to marry me. 1230 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:31,780 - Oh, my gosh. 1231 01:07:31,782 --> 01:07:34,682 - So, it's, suddenly there is that, 1232 01:07:34,684 --> 01:07:36,886 Even though I never expected it. 1233 01:07:36,887 --> 01:07:38,787 Or at least not consciously expected it. 1234 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:39,719 I think unconsciously 1235 01:07:39,723 --> 01:07:40,790 Of course I wanted it. 1236 01:07:40,791 --> 01:07:41,621 - Right. 1237 01:07:41,625 --> 01:07:45,355 - And that's just eerie in a way. 1238 01:07:45,362 --> 01:07:48,562 - Well, I mean, it may or may not be a coincidence 1239 01:07:48,565 --> 01:07:51,495 That you met the perfect woman 1240 01:07:51,501 --> 01:07:53,969 During this medication trial. 1241 01:07:53,970 --> 01:07:57,139 You, over the last 49 years 1242 01:07:57,140 --> 01:08:01,540 Have been anxious and sort of tightly wound. 1243 01:08:01,545 --> 01:08:02,535 This is the first time 1244 01:08:02,546 --> 01:08:04,306 You ever tried anything 1245 01:08:04,314 --> 01:08:06,682 That took away that anxiety. 1246 01:08:06,683 --> 01:08:09,083 So maybe it's opened you up. 1247 01:08:09,086 --> 01:08:11,146 I'm much more sharing. 1248 01:08:11,154 --> 01:08:13,424 I talk much more than I normally would. 1249 01:08:13,425 --> 01:08:16,392 I stopped eating, I lost 15 pounds in the meantime. 1250 01:08:16,393 --> 01:08:19,231 I sleep very little, between three and five hours a day. 1251 01:08:19,232 --> 01:08:20,659 And I have incredible energy. 1252 01:08:20,664 --> 01:08:22,764 Like, my work is going fantastic. 1253 01:08:22,766 --> 01:08:24,496 - Are you using more caffeine? 1254 01:08:24,501 --> 01:08:27,741 Yeah, I mean, yesterday I'm sure I had 15 espressos. 1255 01:08:27,742 --> 01:08:29,197 - 15? 1256 01:08:29,206 --> 01:08:30,636 - Yeah. 1257 01:08:42,518 --> 01:08:44,618 Can I see this on you? 1258 01:08:44,621 --> 01:08:46,821 - Oh, sure. 1259 01:08:51,527 --> 01:08:54,427 - Yeah, smaller one it is. 1260 01:08:54,431 --> 01:08:55,461 Number six. 1261 01:09:04,907 --> 01:09:09,037 - No, I think just espresso, just as it is. 1262 01:09:09,045 --> 01:09:10,305 - What's this? 1263 01:09:12,314 --> 01:09:14,654 You've gotta be kidding me? 1264 01:09:18,053 --> 01:09:20,393 - Well, let's see. 1265 01:09:21,257 --> 01:09:22,557 - So, it's official now, yeah? 1266 01:09:22,559 --> 01:09:24,329 - Uh huh. - It's beautiful. 1267 01:09:36,071 --> 01:09:39,441 - I'm having all of her birthmarks 1268 01:09:39,442 --> 01:09:41,642 Tattooed on my arm. 1269 01:09:41,645 --> 01:09:45,575 And she's having all of mine tattooed on hers. 1270 01:09:52,254 --> 01:09:53,856 - Okay, can you hear? 1271 01:09:53,857 --> 01:09:55,517 - Can you hear us? - Are we all ready? 1272 01:09:55,525 --> 01:09:56,755 I can hear us fine too. 1273 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,590 - Yeah, check, check, one, two. 1274 01:09:58,595 --> 01:09:59,755 - Check, yep, we're good. 1275 01:09:59,763 --> 01:10:03,098 How do you feel about all the filming? 1276 01:10:03,099 --> 01:10:04,199 - Me, personally? 1277 01:10:04,201 --> 01:10:06,268 Very comfortable. 1278 01:10:06,269 --> 01:10:07,839 I think it feels very natural to me 1279 01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:12,267 Because I really wanna support Stefan's happiness, 1280 01:10:12,275 --> 01:10:14,675 And of course I wanna support him in his work. 1281 01:10:14,678 --> 01:10:17,148 And it's been a big topic for me, happiness. 1282 01:10:17,149 --> 01:10:18,707 - Veza, you said you know 1283 01:10:18,715 --> 01:10:20,475 About these three experiments. 1284 01:10:20,483 --> 01:10:23,121 - So, we've done two of the experiments. 1285 01:10:23,122 --> 01:10:26,819 - And here we are amidst the third. - Which I ruined, basically. 1286 01:10:26,823 --> 01:10:28,390 - Tell me about it. 1287 01:10:28,391 --> 01:10:31,691 Fall out of love with you because the whole thing 1288 01:10:31,695 --> 01:10:33,455 Could be a drug induced... 1289 01:10:33,463 --> 01:10:35,063 - Not at all. 1290 01:10:35,065 --> 01:10:37,725 - But I've only known you the way I've known you. 1291 01:10:37,734 --> 01:10:40,174 How is it for you guys to see me with Stefan? 1292 01:10:40,175 --> 01:10:44,039 I think this is actually interesting to ask you guys. 1293 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,009 - I've never seen Stefan as happy as he's been. 1294 01:10:47,010 --> 01:10:49,478 Almost recklessly happy. 1295 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,148 - Do you think that's Lexapro? 1296 01:10:51,149 --> 01:10:52,377 - Do I think it's Lexapro? 1297 01:10:52,382 --> 01:10:53,682 This, you're concerned. 1298 01:10:53,683 --> 01:10:54,917 - No, I'm not concerned. 1299 01:10:54,918 --> 01:10:56,818 - I just saw it in your face a little bit. - - no. 1300 01:10:58,153 --> 01:10:59,253 - I mean, you clearly have 1301 01:10:59,256 --> 01:11:00,416 Doubts about all of this. 1302 01:11:00,423 --> 01:11:02,191 - I'm just trying to ask the questions 1303 01:11:02,192 --> 01:11:03,192 That I think you would ask 1304 01:11:03,193 --> 01:11:05,433 If you were standing where I was standing. 1305 01:11:05,434 --> 01:11:08,058 - What would you think if you heard 1306 01:11:08,064 --> 01:11:10,702 Three months ago I started taking Lexapro, 1307 01:11:10,703 --> 01:11:12,770 I was terribly depressed for a week. 1308 01:11:12,771 --> 01:11:15,569 I met a woman, I fell completely in love, 1309 01:11:15,572 --> 01:11:18,272 And we're going to get married. 1310 01:11:19,675 --> 01:11:21,105 - Oh, crazy. 1311 01:11:21,111 --> 01:11:22,411 Another person, crazy. 1312 01:11:22,412 --> 01:11:23,712 Me, it's different. 1313 01:11:23,713 --> 01:11:27,016 Because I have an immediate experience of me. 1314 01:11:27,017 --> 01:11:28,847 And I know how it went. 1315 01:11:28,852 --> 01:11:31,086 I've never been so happy. 1316 01:11:31,087 --> 01:11:34,517 I mean, you know, I have never had in my life, 1317 01:11:34,524 --> 01:11:36,394 Yeah, I probably had a day that I would say 1318 01:11:36,395 --> 01:11:38,093 That was like a number 10 day, 1319 01:11:38,094 --> 01:11:39,561 Like a 10 out of 10. 1320 01:11:39,562 --> 01:11:43,002 But I've had 10 days like this in a row. 1321 01:11:46,101 --> 01:11:48,201 - Unbelievable. 1322 01:11:48,204 --> 01:11:49,404 And too good to be true. 1323 01:11:49,406 --> 01:11:50,566 - Yeah, yeah. 1324 01:11:52,574 --> 01:11:56,478 And as we both know, normally, 1325 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,379 In my experience, every single time, 1326 01:11:59,382 --> 01:12:02,722 Too good to be true means exactly that. 1327 01:12:04,453 --> 01:12:06,053 - Yeah, I mean, I think it's fascinating 1328 01:12:06,056 --> 01:12:09,456 How you know about this concept of romantic love 1329 01:12:09,459 --> 01:12:11,226 And companionate love. 1330 01:12:11,227 --> 01:12:15,497 And it's like you're aware scientifically of the timeline. 1331 01:12:16,899 --> 01:12:22,469 - The only part of the rider-elephant duo that knows, is the rider. 1332 01:12:22,472 --> 01:12:24,472 The elephant doesn't give a shit about this, 1333 01:12:24,474 --> 01:12:25,743 About this knowledge. 1334 01:12:25,744 --> 01:12:27,580 The elephant just does what he wants. 1335 01:12:27,581 --> 01:12:28,937 The elephant falls in love 1336 01:12:28,945 --> 01:12:33,475 Totally and crazily and 1337 01:12:33,483 --> 01:12:35,250 And just goes in that direction. 1338 01:12:35,251 --> 01:12:37,191 The rider is just sort of sitting on top of the elephant 1339 01:12:37,192 --> 01:12:38,987 Saying, oh, you know, 1340 01:12:38,988 --> 01:12:40,188 Are you really sure? 1341 01:12:40,190 --> 01:12:41,790 You're on drugs. 1342 01:12:41,791 --> 01:12:44,760 And the elephant just goes. 1343 01:12:44,761 --> 01:12:46,091 - Yeah. 1344 01:14:05,340 --> 01:14:07,380 - So, baby, we had a fight today, no? 1345 01:14:07,381 --> 01:14:09,207 In the morning or, 1346 01:14:09,212 --> 01:14:11,212 Yeah, I think you can call it a fight. 1347 01:14:11,214 --> 01:14:12,054 What do you think? 1348 01:14:12,055 --> 01:14:13,778 - I don't think it was a fight. 1349 01:14:13,783 --> 01:14:15,683 You should see me fight. 1350 01:14:15,685 --> 01:14:16,875 - Yeah? 1351 01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:20,086 - No 1352 01:14:20,089 --> 01:14:21,289 Yeah, we did. 1353 01:14:23,692 --> 01:14:28,230 And look at we are still here. 1354 01:14:28,231 --> 01:14:31,501 - I'm about a week off drugs. 1355 01:14:33,368 --> 01:14:36,368 And right now I'm not doing well. 1356 01:14:36,372 --> 01:14:38,542 - Let's hear what's been going on. 1357 01:14:38,543 --> 01:14:41,109 - It's been not great, I have to say. 1358 01:14:41,110 --> 01:14:42,580 In general, when it's not been, 1359 01:14:42,581 --> 01:14:43,979 The outer circumstances 1360 01:14:43,980 --> 01:14:45,910 Haven't been that fantastic, 1361 01:14:45,915 --> 01:14:48,715 I surely haven't been fantastic either. 1362 01:14:48,718 --> 01:14:52,048 - I'm not sure that the Lexapro 1363 01:14:52,055 --> 01:14:53,315 In your system 1364 01:14:54,456 --> 01:14:59,156 Was really the true you. 1365 01:14:59,162 --> 01:15:01,562 What's going on in terms of the relationship? 1366 01:15:01,564 --> 01:15:04,004 - Not as ecstatic as it was. 1367 01:15:04,967 --> 01:15:06,727 - Well, maybe it's normalizing. 1368 01:15:06,736 --> 01:15:07,966 - Yeah, yeah. 1369 01:15:07,971 --> 01:15:13,509 Level of passion can continue over the long run. 1370 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:16,240 - I mean, that's basically what I had expected. 1371 01:15:16,246 --> 01:15:18,176 Yeah, I don't think that it can. 1372 01:15:18,181 --> 01:15:19,411 - Whenever you make one of these changes, 1373 01:15:19,415 --> 01:15:21,015 You wanna give it a few months. 1374 01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:22,917 Don't be bouncing around with 1375 01:15:22,919 --> 01:15:24,088 Just four or five weeks off. 1376 01:15:24,089 --> 01:15:26,917 You know, let your brain and body get back 1377 01:15:26,923 --> 01:15:28,761 To whatever level it's gonna be 1378 01:15:28,762 --> 01:15:30,418 For at least a couple of months. 1379 01:15:30,426 --> 01:15:32,426 And whatever you do, 1380 01:15:32,428 --> 01:15:35,197 Don't break up with Veza in the next few weeks. 1381 01:15:35,198 --> 01:15:36,858 Give it a couple of months. 1382 01:15:36,866 --> 01:15:38,796 Get back to your baseline 1383 01:15:38,801 --> 01:15:39,971 And see how things are. 1384 01:15:39,972 --> 01:15:41,369 - Yeah. 1385 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:45,640 I thank you very, very much 1386 01:15:45,642 --> 01:15:47,172 For coming and for listening. 1387 01:15:47,176 --> 01:15:48,606 What you see here, 1388 01:15:48,611 --> 01:15:50,946 They are part of a whole series 1389 01:15:50,947 --> 01:15:56,317 Of maxims that I always felt was helpful 1390 01:15:56,319 --> 01:15:58,149 To at least know of 1391 01:15:58,154 --> 01:15:59,324 What I actually have learned 1392 01:15:59,325 --> 01:16:00,856 In my life so far. 1393 01:16:00,857 --> 01:16:04,357 This piece itself, the way that it works is basically, 1394 01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,990 You look through the frame 1395 01:16:05,995 --> 01:16:07,455 And there is a smile detection 1396 01:16:07,463 --> 01:16:09,298 Software here somewhere. 1397 01:16:09,299 --> 01:16:11,229 So if I smile properly 1398 01:16:13,635 --> 01:16:14,465 Yeah, 1399 01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:16,570 It actually does reward me 1400 01:16:16,573 --> 01:16:18,443 By becoming colorful. 1401 01:16:19,741 --> 01:16:20,641 And this is a sentence that 1402 01:16:20,643 --> 01:16:22,711 Came out of cognitive therapy. 1403 01:16:22,712 --> 01:16:25,681 The step up to it, basically, my therapist saw 1404 01:16:25,682 --> 01:16:29,952 That I'm not quite ready enough for confrontation. 1405 01:16:38,093 --> 01:16:39,363 The elevators. 1406 01:16:41,496 --> 01:16:43,996 And then a freight elevator 1407 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,330 That opened up differently. 1408 01:16:59,681 --> 01:17:03,951 Press the button and it tells you what to do next. 1409 01:17:31,313 --> 01:17:33,113 Look, I'll show you my favorite ones here. 1410 01:17:33,116 --> 01:17:35,376 See the curve? 1411 01:17:35,385 --> 01:17:36,215 - Yes. 1412 01:17:36,219 --> 01:17:37,079 - Most people feel 1413 01:17:37,086 --> 01:17:38,716 Like a seven or an eight. 1414 01:17:38,721 --> 01:17:39,651 Want one? 1415 01:17:45,761 --> 01:17:47,701 Put a quarter in here. 1416 01:17:48,930 --> 01:17:50,560 It rolls outside. 1417 01:17:50,566 --> 01:17:53,896 Anybody can take it in front of the museum. 1418 01:17:53,903 --> 01:17:54,970 And this one. 1419 01:17:54,971 --> 01:17:56,071 Companionate love, 1420 01:17:56,072 --> 01:17:57,606 Passionate love. 1421 01:17:57,607 --> 01:17:59,707 And you have six months. 1422 01:18:01,243 --> 01:18:03,779 So, passionate love does go down. 1423 01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:04,950 And companionate love has 1424 01:18:04,951 --> 01:18:06,607 A possibility to grow. 1425 01:18:06,616 --> 01:18:07,916 So we'll have to transform 1426 01:18:07,917 --> 01:18:10,077 It into companionate love. 1427 01:18:10,086 --> 01:18:11,586 - No, but I already... - but keeping some of the passion. 1428 01:18:11,587 --> 01:18:13,947 - But I already feel companionate love with you, 1429 01:18:13,956 --> 01:18:16,186 From the beginning. 1430 01:18:18,293 --> 01:18:21,533 - This is what I have to expect with you? - Mm-hm. 1431 01:18:21,534 --> 01:18:23,131 - Yeah? - Mm-hm. 1432 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:26,968 - I think so. 1433 01:18:26,969 --> 01:18:29,469 I mean, I haven't been there. 1434 01:18:30,338 --> 01:18:32,138 No, but in the past, it's sort of like it was 1435 01:18:32,141 --> 01:18:33,641 My pattern, you know? 1436 01:18:33,643 --> 01:18:35,313 - Roughly. - Well, then break it. 1437 01:18:35,314 --> 01:18:37,946 - I don't think it's breakable, baby. 1438 01:18:37,947 --> 01:18:39,307 I think it's human. 1439 01:18:39,315 --> 01:18:40,405 - No. 1440 01:18:43,151 --> 01:18:45,287 - And I don't have expectations 1441 01:18:45,288 --> 01:18:49,918 That it's gonna go on in that sort of passionate level forever. 1442 01:18:51,226 --> 01:18:54,296 And I think that that's good. 1443 01:18:54,297 --> 01:18:55,157 - You know what the difference 1444 01:18:55,164 --> 01:18:56,034 Between me and you is? 1445 01:18:56,035 --> 01:18:57,632 I don't even think about it. 1446 01:18:57,633 --> 01:18:58,473 I'm here now. 1447 01:18:58,474 --> 01:18:59,498 That's the difference. 1448 01:18:59,502 --> 01:19:00,802 - And I, of course, have to think about it 1449 01:19:00,803 --> 01:19:02,973 Because, you know, I did all that. 1450 01:19:02,974 --> 01:19:04,472 You know, I've been dealing 1451 01:19:04,474 --> 01:19:06,842 With all this research for... 1452 01:19:06,843 --> 01:19:09,143 - I know. - A long time now. 1453 01:19:09,145 --> 01:19:11,805 In general, a problem with relationships 1454 01:19:11,814 --> 01:19:14,549 Is that the expectations are too high. 1455 01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:16,320 Or that one of the reasons why my parents 1456 01:19:16,321 --> 01:19:18,519 Had such a great marriage, I think, 1457 01:19:18,521 --> 01:19:20,351 Is because they didn't really 1458 01:19:20,356 --> 01:19:22,556 Have a lot of expectations. 1459 01:19:22,558 --> 01:19:24,988 They didn't know each other very well and... 1460 01:19:24,994 --> 01:19:27,834 - No, I see that, no, I see that. 1461 01:19:29,831 --> 01:19:31,366 - Good. 1462 01:19:31,367 --> 01:19:33,267 Let's leave it there. 1463 01:19:36,538 --> 01:19:37,938 I'm like afraid 1464 01:19:38,707 --> 01:19:40,977 To provoke more arguments. 1465 01:20:37,465 --> 01:20:40,595 - Welcome to the sacred ceremony. 1466 01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:42,571 To this beautiful opportunity 1467 01:20:42,572 --> 01:20:46,572 To leave our old self behind. 1468 01:20:46,576 --> 01:20:50,676 Your life will be in line with nature. 1469 01:20:53,114 --> 01:20:57,384 - Veza's model friend suggested Ayahuasca. 1470 01:20:58,253 --> 01:21:01,523 I agreed and we tried it out together. 1471 01:21:07,429 --> 01:21:08,529 - Your eyes. 1472 01:21:09,431 --> 01:21:11,199 It made no difference. 1473 01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,969 Every month we had a fight 1474 01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:18,270 That went all the way to the edge, basically, 1475 01:21:18,274 --> 01:21:19,874 Where we broke up. 1476 01:21:23,178 --> 01:21:24,608 - I feel like, okay, whoa, 1477 01:21:24,614 --> 01:21:28,624 What did I do that you're so irritated with me? 1478 01:21:30,619 --> 01:21:32,449 Well, I'm just saying I want you to be happy 1479 01:21:32,455 --> 01:21:34,315 With what we do and whatnot. 1480 01:21:34,323 --> 01:21:36,163 - Oh, yeah, no, no, absolutely, yeah. 1481 01:21:36,164 --> 01:21:37,558 - Good to know. 1482 01:21:44,900 --> 01:21:46,370 - It's a little bit like, 1483 01:21:46,371 --> 01:21:48,199 And I'm really scared in a way 1484 01:21:48,204 --> 01:21:51,640 That this will turn you off. 1485 01:21:51,641 --> 01:21:53,241 Because, you know, 1486 01:21:54,376 --> 01:21:56,406 I mean, simply, if you don't get along with me, 1487 01:21:56,412 --> 01:22:00,512 Then why would you wanna stay with me, you know? 1488 01:22:05,153 --> 01:22:07,989 - I think I said that wrong. 1489 01:22:07,990 --> 01:22:11,660 That I don't think that we don't get along. 1490 01:22:53,368 --> 01:22:56,538 Another big fight today. 1491 01:22:56,539 --> 01:22:57,869 In the morning. 1492 01:22:59,374 --> 01:23:01,776 Very close to the edge. 1493 01:23:01,777 --> 01:23:05,347 And Veza asked me afterwards 1494 01:23:07,415 --> 01:23:10,245 If I still wanted to get married. 1495 01:23:11,386 --> 01:23:15,556 And I didn't really know what else to do, 1496 01:23:15,558 --> 01:23:18,528 So I made another pro and con list. 1497 01:23:21,229 --> 01:23:22,659 Getting married. 1498 01:23:23,898 --> 01:23:25,398 Pro, four points. 1499 01:23:27,068 --> 01:23:28,998 Against, seven points. 1500 01:23:35,777 --> 01:23:38,707 - Such a crazy thing that we were. 1501 01:23:40,415 --> 01:23:45,085 Such a fantastic falling in love couple. 1502 01:23:45,087 --> 01:23:46,817 I mean, I've never 1503 01:23:46,822 --> 01:23:50,322 Fallen so hard 1504 01:23:50,326 --> 01:23:53,626 And so deeply in love. 1505 01:23:55,597 --> 01:23:58,697 And we are not a 1506 01:23:59,100 --> 01:24:01,300 Companionate love couple. 1507 01:24:13,281 --> 01:24:14,451 You know, here you are. 1508 01:24:14,452 --> 01:24:16,820 You set off to do this science experiment. 1509 01:24:16,821 --> 01:24:20,719 In my office two years ago, three years ago, whatever it was, 1510 01:24:20,723 --> 01:24:21,893 When we were talking about this 1511 01:24:21,894 --> 01:24:23,791 What was clear was that your weaknesses 1512 01:24:23,793 --> 01:24:26,361 Were about interpersonal connection 1513 01:24:26,362 --> 01:24:28,231 And commitment and gratitude. 1514 01:24:28,232 --> 01:24:29,560 And I think I even said, 1515 01:24:29,565 --> 01:24:30,995 You can go back and look at the footage, 1516 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,130 I think I even said something like, 1517 01:24:33,135 --> 01:24:34,165 Well, it would be interesting to see 1518 01:24:34,170 --> 01:24:35,239 If you fall in love during 1519 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,167 - yeah. - Because this is where your weakness is. 1520 01:24:38,174 --> 01:24:39,744 And so, you did fall in love. 1521 01:24:39,745 --> 01:24:40,972 Three times. 1522 01:24:40,976 --> 01:24:43,576 And you go off and you're doing meditation, 1523 01:24:43,579 --> 01:24:46,679 And bang, this... a relationship, 1524 01:24:46,682 --> 01:24:49,682 Which blows out of the water any possibility 1525 01:24:49,685 --> 01:24:51,885 To measure whether, okay, 1526 01:24:51,887 --> 01:24:53,647 That's a little bit funny. 1527 01:24:53,656 --> 01:24:55,416 And then you go and you do cognitive therapy, 1528 01:24:55,424 --> 01:24:57,058 And the same thing happens. 1529 01:24:57,059 --> 01:24:57,889 - Yeah. 1530 01:24:57,893 --> 01:24:58,733 - Now it gets funnier. 1531 01:24:58,734 --> 01:24:59,987 And a joke always has, 1532 01:24:59,995 --> 01:25:01,525 You know, three sections. 1533 01:25:01,530 --> 01:25:05,200 So the fact that it happens three times, 1534 01:25:05,201 --> 01:25:09,337 Stefan, this should be a movie about 1535 01:25:09,338 --> 01:25:12,838 You and your weaknesses, 1536 01:25:12,842 --> 01:25:15,442 And your attempts to fix them. 1537 01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,520 - Oh fuck, this is gonna be such a nightmare 1538 01:25:21,521 --> 01:25:23,647 To figure this movie out. 1539 01:25:26,187 --> 01:25:30,157 I started out to get some really clear answers. 1540 01:25:32,293 --> 01:25:33,628 And what I got back 1541 01:25:33,629 --> 01:25:36,229 Is a bunch of mush. 1542 01:25:37,599 --> 01:25:38,399 What have you learned 1543 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,130 About the causes of happiness? 1544 01:25:40,136 --> 01:25:41,366 Do you have a better understanding 1545 01:25:41,370 --> 01:25:43,470 Of what makes you happy? 1546 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,240 - I didn't wanna make a film 1547 01:25:47,243 --> 01:25:49,210 About questions. 1548 01:25:49,211 --> 01:25:50,311 And I hate all this stuff. 1549 01:25:50,312 --> 01:25:51,982 Oh, it's not about the answers. 1550 01:25:51,983 --> 01:25:54,449 It's about the right questions. 1551 01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:55,980 Blah, blah, blah. 1552 01:26:02,490 --> 01:26:03,420 Fuck. 1553 01:26:05,927 --> 01:26:08,097 This is a total disaster. 1554 01:26:12,133 --> 01:26:13,768 d Everything ain't going d 1555 01:26:13,769 --> 01:26:15,999 d the way I planned d 1556 01:26:16,005 --> 01:26:17,965 d everything ain't going d 1557 01:26:17,973 --> 01:26:20,141 d the way I planned d 1558 01:26:20,142 --> 01:26:22,242 d everything ain't going d 1559 01:26:22,244 --> 01:26:24,479 d the way I planned d 1560 01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:26,347 d so I'm gonna sit d 1561 01:26:26,348 --> 01:26:28,078 d myself down right here d 1562 01:26:28,083 --> 01:26:30,919 d and see... d 1563 01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:32,290 - Trying to look good 1564 01:26:32,291 --> 01:26:33,688 Limits my life. 1565 01:26:34,856 --> 01:26:37,816 I know, but I'm getting getting very concerned 1566 01:26:37,826 --> 01:26:40,426 About how I look in this film. 1567 01:26:43,464 --> 01:26:44,704 I'm a 50 year old guy who dates 1568 01:26:44,705 --> 01:26:46,730 Women 20 years younger. 1569 01:26:48,102 --> 01:26:49,942 And calls them girls. 1570 01:26:51,806 --> 01:26:54,836 I just spent the past six years of my life 1571 01:26:54,843 --> 01:26:57,043 Working on this thing 1572 01:26:57,046 --> 01:26:59,906 That says I'm an asshole. 1573 01:27:00,848 --> 01:27:04,278 What a great use of my time. 1574 01:27:07,488 --> 01:27:11,758 I should have stuck to chairs made out of letters. 1575 01:27:15,964 --> 01:27:18,134 - So, you chose the three techniques 1576 01:27:18,135 --> 01:27:21,236 That I describe in chapter two of the book 1577 01:27:21,237 --> 01:27:23,037 For changing the elephant. 1578 01:27:23,038 --> 01:27:25,308 But your problem wasn't the elephant. 1579 01:27:25,309 --> 01:27:27,467 You could just as well have chosen 1580 01:27:27,476 --> 01:27:30,476 The three aspects of between. 1581 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:34,309 So, what if you had worked on your relationships? 1582 01:27:34,316 --> 01:27:35,676 And worked on the satisfaction 1583 01:27:35,684 --> 01:27:37,218 You get from work? 1584 01:27:37,219 --> 01:27:40,188 And tried to get involved 1585 01:27:40,189 --> 01:27:42,589 With some sort of larger project 1586 01:27:42,591 --> 01:27:45,930 In the company of people that you really like and respect? 1587 01:27:45,931 --> 01:27:48,858 That would be changing the conditions of your life 1588 01:27:48,864 --> 01:27:52,000 In ways that, I would predict, 1589 01:27:52,001 --> 01:27:53,701 Happiness would then follow 1590 01:27:53,702 --> 01:27:56,142 As you got a better between. 1591 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,240 - Well, in a way, 1592 01:28:01,243 --> 01:28:04,283 That has been what I've been doing. 1593 01:28:05,380 --> 01:28:08,116 I mean, I definitely 1594 01:28:08,117 --> 01:28:10,547 Worked on my relationships. 1595 01:28:10,552 --> 01:28:13,722 Not all that successfully, but I did. 1596 01:28:15,857 --> 01:28:19,587 And I have been more satisfied with my work. 1597 01:28:19,595 --> 01:28:22,195 The happy show was a big success. 1598 01:28:22,197 --> 01:28:26,727 I mean, almost a 1/4 of a million came to see it. 1599 01:28:26,735 --> 01:28:29,135 And this whole film project 1600 01:28:29,871 --> 01:28:33,211 Surely feels larger than me. 1601 01:28:34,075 --> 01:28:37,875 Basically outside of my control. 1602 01:28:38,413 --> 01:28:43,423 Like I'm the rider and it's the elephant. 1603 01:28:48,423 --> 01:28:54,093 This film started as a graphic design project six years ago. 1604 01:28:54,096 --> 01:28:58,196 And somehow it all became about me. 1605 01:29:00,268 --> 01:29:02,637 I guess I could have continued designing stuff 1606 01:29:02,638 --> 01:29:05,068 That I know how to do. 1607 01:29:05,074 --> 01:29:06,114 It would have been 1608 01:29:06,115 --> 01:29:08,108 So much easier. 1609 01:29:08,110 --> 01:29:12,110 Trying to chase after something more meaningful 1610 01:29:13,147 --> 01:29:16,517 Turned out to be a big pain in the ass. 1611 01:29:18,753 --> 01:29:19,953 But it also did 1612 01:29:19,955 --> 01:29:21,915 Make my life fuller. 1613 01:29:21,924 --> 01:29:23,124 d Everything ain't going d 1614 01:29:23,125 --> 01:29:24,115 d the way I planned d 1615 01:29:24,126 --> 01:29:26,086 d everything ain't going d 1616 01:29:26,095 --> 01:29:28,325 d the way I planned d 1617 01:29:28,330 --> 01:29:30,430 d everything ain't going d 1618 01:29:30,432 --> 01:29:33,532 d the way I planned d 1619 01:29:35,603 --> 01:29:37,839 - So what's the purpose, 1620 01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:39,870 Why am I actually here? 1621 01:29:43,544 --> 01:29:46,180 I guess it would be to do something 1622 01:29:46,181 --> 01:29:49,717 That either delights 1623 01:29:49,718 --> 01:29:51,648 Or helps other people. 1624 01:29:52,653 --> 01:29:55,022 Or simply finding something 1625 01:29:55,023 --> 01:29:57,123 That's bigger than myself, 1626 01:29:57,126 --> 01:29:59,386 And dedicate myself to it. 1627 01:30:03,131 --> 01:30:06,231 I'm still blowing air into balloons. 1628 01:30:11,472 --> 01:30:13,641 Trusting, somehow, into 1629 01:30:13,642 --> 01:30:15,742 The lightness of things. 1630 01:30:16,811 --> 01:30:18,811 Believing it will work. 1631 01:30:28,256 --> 01:30:29,986 There's a shitload 1632 01:30:29,992 --> 01:30:31,492 Of possibilities. 1633 01:30:34,996 --> 01:30:39,166 One day it will be me up there. 1634 01:30:44,072 --> 01:30:45,112 I will fly. 1635 01:30:48,443 --> 01:30:50,213 Let's go. 1636 01:31:24,745 --> 01:31:27,145 d Everything ain't going d 1637 01:31:27,149 --> 01:31:30,379 d the way I had planned d 1638 01:31:30,385 --> 01:31:32,785 d everything ain't going d 1639 01:31:32,788 --> 01:31:35,988 d the way I had planned d 1640 01:31:35,991 --> 01:31:39,291 d just gonna sit there d 1641 01:31:39,294 --> 01:31:42,730 d sit down and write it d 1642 01:31:42,731 --> 01:31:47,831 d see what happens d 1643 01:31:47,836 --> 01:31:49,896 d to me d 1644 01:31:49,905 --> 01:31:52,565 d if I don't do d 1645 01:31:52,574 --> 01:31:56,184 d a god damn thing at all d 1646 01:32:03,651 --> 01:32:06,251 d everything ain't going d 1647 01:32:06,255 --> 01:32:09,255 d the way I planned d 1648 01:32:09,258 --> 01:32:11,758 d everything ain't going d 1649 01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:14,629 d the way I planned d 1650 01:32:14,630 --> 01:32:17,430 d so I'm gonna sit down d 1651 01:32:17,432 --> 01:32:21,202 d sit down right here d 1652 01:32:21,203 --> 01:32:24,573 d and see what happens d 1653 01:32:26,207 --> 01:32:29,477 d to me if I don't do d 1654 01:32:30,945 --> 01:32:34,645 d a god damned thing at all d 1655 01:32:42,123 --> 01:32:44,123 d everything ain't going d 1656 01:32:44,126 --> 01:32:46,956 d the way I planned d 1657 01:32:46,962 --> 01:32:49,630 d everything ain't going d 1658 01:32:49,631 --> 01:32:52,300 d the way I planned d 1659 01:32:52,301 --> 01:32:55,536 d so I'm going to sit my d 1660 01:32:55,537 --> 01:32:58,967 d self down right here d 1661 01:32:58,974 --> 01:33:02,344 d and see what happens d 1662 01:33:03,878 --> 01:33:07,808 d to me if I don't do d 1663 01:33:07,816 --> 01:33:11,416 d a god damn thing at all d 1664 01:33:28,002 --> 01:33:29,937 d everything ain't going d 1665 01:33:29,938 --> 01:33:32,907 d the way I planned d 1666 01:33:32,908 --> 01:33:35,338 d everything ain't going d 1667 01:33:35,344 --> 01:33:38,279 d the way I had planned d 1668 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:40,848 d everything ain't going d 1669 01:33:40,849 --> 01:33:44,179 d the way I had planned d 1670 01:33:44,186 --> 01:33:46,216 d everything ain't going d 1671 01:33:46,221 --> 01:33:48,921 d the way I had planned d 1672 01:33:48,924 --> 01:33:52,126 d so I'm going to sit my d 1673 01:33:52,127 --> 01:33:55,227 d self down right here d 1674 01:33:55,230 --> 01:33:59,070 d and see what happens to me d 1675 01:34:02,303 --> 01:34:05,139 d if I don't do a d 1676 01:34:05,140 --> 01:34:08,580 d god damn thing at all d 1677 01:34:16,217 --> 01:34:18,117 d everything ain't going d 1678 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,988 d the way I had planned d 1679 01:34:20,989 --> 01:34:23,589 d everything ain't going d 1680 01:34:23,592 --> 01:34:26,560 d the way I had planned d 1681 01:34:26,561 --> 01:34:29,461 d so I'm gonna sit d 1682 01:34:29,464 --> 01:34:32,767 d myself down right here d 1683 01:34:32,768 --> 01:34:36,098 d and see what happens d 1684 01:34:37,738 --> 01:34:41,308 d to me if I don't do d 1685 01:34:41,309 --> 01:34:45,009 d a god damn thing at all d 1685 01:34:46,305 --> 01:34:52,592 Download & Sync Subtitles automatically www.FLIXTOOLS.com 119054

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