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$600 for a freaking T-shirt?
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Did you say $600?
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Wow.
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This is SoHo, Chloe.
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Still.
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Ladies, let me know if there's
anything I can help you with.
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Thank you.
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We should probably head back
to Brooklyn soon.
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Oh, my God, a scarf is $400?
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Should I get it?
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What? No.
Your mom will kill you.
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Hey.
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I didn't say anything
about buying it.
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Oh, come on.
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Warmth is a fundamental
human right.
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And I need a scarf.
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Relax. You're gonna
attract attention.
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Hey.
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You should get those earrings.
They're your favorite color.
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I don't think so.
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Do you know how cute
you'd look with them?
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Sorry, ladies.
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I'm gonna need to see
inside those purses.
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Good afternoon.
My name is Elena Smith.
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I got a phone call
that my 15-year-old daughter
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was arrested for shoplifting?
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Wait, there must be
some mistake.
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I'm supposed to meet
my daughter in here.
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There's been no
mistake, Ms. Smith.
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It's you we want to talk to.
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I'm Agent Franks with the
Federal Bureau of Investigation.
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This is Agent Arnold.
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Would you please
take a seat?
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Shoplifting?
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Is that something the FBI
gets involved with these days?
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Uh, just for the record,
you're Chloe Smith's mom?
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Yes Is she okay?
W-What did she do?
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Chloe's real name
isn't Chloe at all, is it?
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And her last name isn't Smith.
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For that matter,
I'm guessing neither is yours.
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Your daughter,
who isn't your daughter,
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her real name is Sarah Cooper,
isn't it?
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We ran her prints.
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She's originally from
Clearwater, Florida,
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and we suspect
maybe you are, too.
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Your real name's
Angela Brown, isn't it?
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Ms. Brown,
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we've been looking for you
and that little girl
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for an awfully long time.
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- Go away.
- No.
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Nope. I need to speak with you.
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Have some mercy.
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You know I have
a two-week-old at home.
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I know that.
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She's adorable, but confused.
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Doesn't know night from day.
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Ugh, come on.
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I'm working
on 22 minutes' sleep here.
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I beg you.
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Sorry, Bull.
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You know, I just, uh,
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got off the phone
with my financial guy,
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trying to start
a college fund
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for baby Bull,
but I got to have her full name.
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They won't let me
open up an account
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without a last name
and a first name.
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So what's it gonna be?
Asa or Ingrid?
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Remember?
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You told me you wanted
to name her Ingrid,
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and Izzy wanted to name her Asa.
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So where'd you
guys end up?
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We met in the middle.
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What? Inga?
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Astrid.
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Ah.
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Astrid.
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I like it.
Never heard it before,
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but I like it.
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Same here.
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See what you started?
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You two boys interested
in running up
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to the Metropolitan Correctional
Center late this afternoon,
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and talking to a woman accused
of kidnapping her niece
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12 years ago and bringing
her up as her daughter?
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12 years ago, my younger sister
Marie died in a car accident.
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She had just dropped her
three-year-old daughter
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off at day care.
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Sarah. Sarah Cooper.
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Yes.
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That was the name
she was born with.
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Sarah Cooper.
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And what about her father?
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What was going on with Sarah's
father after your sister died?
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My brother-in-law had issues
with impulse control.
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Struggled with his drinking,
with drugs.
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He used to beat
my sister.
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He used to hurt Chloe.
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Sarah.
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And you witnessed this?
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I saw the bruises.
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But your sister confided in you?
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She didn't have
to confide in me.
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S-She didn't have to say it.
She was my sister.
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Uh, these bruises,
did you ask her about them?
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I tried.
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She'd tell me
she walked into a door.
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Or when her hand had what looked
to me like cigarette burns,
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she'd tell me she did it
to herself on the stove.
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Tell me about Sarah.
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After Marie died,
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I noticed she started
having bruises.
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And did you ask
your brother-in-law?
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The girl's father?
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He'd tell me Sarah fell down.
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"Sarah fell off her big wheel."
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There was
always a story.
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So, I contacted
Florida's Department
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of Children and Families.
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But by the time
they came out to investigate,
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the bruises were almost gone.
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I think I reported him
five, six times.
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And then, one day,
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I went over there
to visit my niece,
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and they told me she was in
the hospital with a broken arm.
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Jim said she fell down
the stairs.
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But when I went to the hospital
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and asked Sarah what had
happened, she wouldn't tell me.
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She just looked sad.
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She wouldn't say anything.
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So, the next morning,
I went back to the hospital.
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And I told her
we were going on a trip.
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That was 12 years ago.
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Let's talk about the trial.
It's not gonna be easy.
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There's no denying what you did.
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You took a child
who wasn't yours.
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A child who still had a parent.
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And there's no jury
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that's gonna have an easy time
looking past that,
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which is why Sarah... Chloe...
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Is the key to your defense.
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The key?
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How? She was only three
when all this happened.
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She doesn't remember anything.
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Of course.
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But surely she has an opinion
on you as a mother.
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How did she react when you
told her you'd been arrested?
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I told her I'd been called away
on a business trip.
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I called her friend's parents
and asked if she could stay
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with them for a day or two.
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Ms. Smith, Ms. Brown,
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you need to explain
to your niece
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what's really going on here.
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That is a conversation
that has to be had.
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Dr. Bull is right.
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She is the most important
witness we have.
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Now, we're happy
to bring Chloe here, tomorrow.
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Give you two a chance to talk.
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Here?
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So I can tell her
her whole life's been a fiction?
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She thinks
her father is dead,
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that he's a war hero,
he lost his life in Afghanistan.
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Be that as it may,
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if that girl doesn't tell
the jury what a wonderful mother
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you've been,
you will be found guilty.
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And the authorities
will almost certainly return her
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to the man
you're convinced hurt her.
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Tell me you'll call her tonight.
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Tell me you'll explain
you need to see her.
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Okay.
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I'll call her.
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I'll tell her
about the two of you.
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That you'll be
bringing her to me.
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But I won't tell her where.
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And I won't tell her why.
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I-I just can't.
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*BULL *
Season 04 Episode 16
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Episode Title: "Missing"
Aired on: 03/09/2020
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Here she comes.
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You all right?
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It's a lot.
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It is.
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I hate to be the naysayer...
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- No, you don't.
- I-I don't know
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how we're supposed
to prove abuse
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that supposedly happened
over 12 years ago
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in a place that's over
a thousand miles away.
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I don't know.
I mean, the kid did
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break her arm.
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Yeah, but it was
a spiral fracture,
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which is actually
pretty common.
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It can happen when you yank
a toddler's arm
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or when you're just
horsing around,
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which is what the dad
told the doctors.
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Speaking of the father...
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Tell us what you know.
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His name is Jim Cooper.
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Went through kind of a dark
period after his wife passed
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and his daughter disappeared.
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Couldn't hold down a job,
got himself into a lot of debt.
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Lost his house. Some minor
arrests for drunkenness.
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Then about eight
years ago,
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he started to pull
his life back together.
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Bought a water-softening
franchise,
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remarried four years ago,
has a two-and-a-half-year-old son,
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has six employees.
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I've dated guys whose bios
read worse than this.
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Here's the thing.
Bull keeps saying the literature
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is pretty clear about the fact
that abuse tends to be cyclical.
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I mean, even though
this Jim Cooper remarried...
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You think he's abusing
his new wife and kid?
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Well, I certainly hope not,
but he probably had
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other relationships
before he met his current wife.
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And if we can establish
a pattern of abuse,
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it would certainly bolster
Elena's credibility.
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Looks like I'm on a plane
to sunny Florida.
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Do you know what
the problem with this case is?
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Our client did exactly what
she's being charged with.
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I'm starting to think our only
choice might be to embrace that.
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Why would we do that?
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To gain credibility
with the judge and the jury.
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Make a play
for a lenient sentence.
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Our play is
to get her acquitted.
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If we have to ask
for a lenient sentence,
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it means we've lost, and our
client didn't hire us to lose.
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Yeah, but, Bull, there is
no defense for this crime.
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It's not like we can claim
that it was an accident
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or self-defense
or even insanity.
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I mean, she's guilty.
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She did it.
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She kidnapped her niece.
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Well, that's where
jury nullification comes in.
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We've got to convince this jury
that the kidnapping law
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shouldn't apply
to Elena's situation.
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She wasn't kidnapping her niece;
She was rescuing her.
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Let the prosecution
call it a kidnapping.
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We're gonna call it a rescue.
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I need to warn you...
The first witness
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to take the stand today
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is going to be your
former brother-in-law.
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Whatever you
may think about him,
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we need you to understand
the jury will almost certainly
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empathize with him.
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All they're gonna see
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is a young widower
who lost his only child.
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Wow. The bastard
sobered up long enough
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to fly three hours up the coast
so he could lie under oath?
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According to the prosecutor,
he's been sober for years.
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He's also remarried,
owns his own business,
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has a two-year-old son,
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and very much wants
his daughter back.
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Angela,
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the reason
we're telling you this...
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We need you to be careful
not to react when he testifies.
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The jury is watching you,
they're studying you.
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If they see anger,
if they see contempt,
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00:12:07,282 --> 00:12:09,930
they're gonna presume
that you took this man's child
257
00:12:10,141 --> 00:12:11,932
out of spite.
258
00:12:12,046 --> 00:12:13,117
So...
259
00:12:13,258 --> 00:12:15,188
you got to
the hospital,
260
00:12:15,273 --> 00:12:17,024
walked into your
daughter's room,
261
00:12:17,109 --> 00:12:18,693
and she just
wasn't there?
262
00:12:18,983 --> 00:12:21,302
Exactly. And no one...
no one knew where she was.
263
00:12:21,387 --> 00:12:23,505
So, of course,
I went to the police.
264
00:12:23,590 --> 00:12:25,811
And how long
before you figured out
265
00:12:25,896 --> 00:12:27,647
that it was probably
your sister-in-law
266
00:12:27,731 --> 00:12:29,149
who had taken her?
267
00:12:29,233 --> 00:12:32,285
Maybe a day.
There was hospital video.
268
00:12:32,369 --> 00:12:33,620
Uh...
269
00:12:33,704 --> 00:12:36,089
but the thing is,
no one realized
270
00:12:36,173 --> 00:12:39,102
that she had taken her for good,
271
00:12:39,187 --> 00:12:40,638
that she'd left the state.
272
00:12:40,844 --> 00:12:43,530
I kept thinking that she
had taken her to the movies
273
00:12:43,614 --> 00:12:45,610
or to some theme park to...
274
00:12:47,149 --> 00:12:48,802
take her mind
off of her mother.
275
00:12:48,886 --> 00:12:50,018
Mr. Cooper.
276
00:12:50,828 --> 00:12:53,880
Did you ever hit
your first wife?
277
00:12:54,057 --> 00:12:55,141
Never.
278
00:12:55,302 --> 00:12:57,554
Did you ever strike
your daughter Sarah?
279
00:12:57,981 --> 00:12:59,110
Never.
280
00:12:59,195 --> 00:13:00,646
Mr. Cooper,
281
00:13:01,198 --> 00:13:04,673
if the defendant
is found guilty,
282
00:13:04,844 --> 00:13:06,329
are you prepared
283
00:13:06,438 --> 00:13:08,860
to welcome your daughter
back into your home?
284
00:13:10,063 --> 00:13:11,634
Prepared? I have been waiting
285
00:13:11,719 --> 00:13:12,901
12 years for this.
I would do anything
286
00:13:12,985 --> 00:13:15,274
to have my child back. Yes.
287
00:13:17,221 --> 00:13:19,141
No further questions,
Your Honor.
288
00:13:20,717 --> 00:13:21,985
Mr. Colón.
289
00:13:22,179 --> 00:13:23,263
Yes, Your Honor.
290
00:13:23,458 --> 00:13:24,977
Thank you, Your Honor.
291
00:13:28,649 --> 00:13:30,048
Mr. Cooper...
292
00:13:30,841 --> 00:13:34,337
we really appreciate
you coming all this way to...
293
00:13:34,859 --> 00:13:36,290
share your recollections.
294
00:13:36,375 --> 00:13:38,927
Recollections?
I-I-I'm talking about...
295
00:13:39,209 --> 00:13:40,426
my family.
296
00:13:40,511 --> 00:13:43,430
I'm talking about my blood,
my-my child.
297
00:13:43,515 --> 00:13:45,667
Yes, yes,
of course, of course, but...
298
00:13:45,976 --> 00:13:48,728
12 years is a long time.
299
00:13:49,165 --> 00:13:50,508
A lot has changed.
300
00:13:50,593 --> 00:13:51,843
Right?
301
00:13:51,928 --> 00:13:54,610
You're remarried, you have
a two-year-old at home...
302
00:13:54,870 --> 00:13:58,123
I never stopped looking.
I... I never gave up.
303
00:13:58,208 --> 00:13:59,525
If you say so, sir.
304
00:14:00,201 --> 00:14:01,201
Now...
305
00:14:01,659 --> 00:14:05,743
you were unemployed at the time
your daughter disappeared,
306
00:14:05,876 --> 00:14:08,125
- weren't you?
- Yes, I-I had a tough time
307
00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:09,446
after my wife died.
308
00:14:09,531 --> 00:14:11,515
Completely understandable.
309
00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,785
Although, our records indicate
310
00:14:13,870 --> 00:14:15,822
that you were having
a tough time
311
00:14:15,916 --> 00:14:18,431
even before your wife
passed away,
312
00:14:18,516 --> 00:14:20,298
pretty much beginning
with the birth
313
00:14:20,383 --> 00:14:21,782
of your first child, Sarah.
314
00:14:21,867 --> 00:14:23,051
Objection, Your Honor.
315
00:14:23,249 --> 00:14:26,587
Is counsel asking a question
or testifying?
316
00:14:26,968 --> 00:14:28,610
Ask a question, Mr. Colón.
317
00:14:29,045 --> 00:14:31,797
Absolutely, Your Honor.
My apologies, Your Honor.
318
00:14:32,232 --> 00:14:33,649
Uh...
319
00:14:33,790 --> 00:14:37,843
approximately how many jobs
would you say you held
320
00:14:37,935 --> 00:14:40,687
during the three-year period
321
00:14:40,772 --> 00:14:43,173
starting from the birth
of your first child
322
00:14:43,258 --> 00:14:44,629
to the date
that she disappeared?
323
00:14:45,352 --> 00:14:47,376
I don't know,
I was still a young man,
324
00:14:47,461 --> 00:14:49,602
still trying to...
find myself.
325
00:14:49,687 --> 00:14:50,555
Yeah, I get it.
326
00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,358
I'm just looking
for a number, sir.
327
00:14:53,173 --> 00:14:54,204
Three, maybe.
328
00:14:54,289 --> 00:14:55,306
Three.
329
00:14:55,812 --> 00:14:57,230
Three jobs in three years.
330
00:14:57,314 --> 00:14:58,564
That's what
you're testifying to?
331
00:14:58,648 --> 00:14:59,610
Could be four.
332
00:14:59,695 --> 00:15:01,681
Objection, Your Honor.
Relevance?
333
00:15:01,766 --> 00:15:03,403
Your Honor,
the defense
334
00:15:03,487 --> 00:15:05,712
is just trying to illustrate
to the jury
335
00:15:05,797 --> 00:15:09,688
that my client has never denied
that she did what she did;
336
00:15:09,781 --> 00:15:12,696
The issue in this trial
is why she did it.
337
00:15:12,852 --> 00:15:14,581
And that's all
we are attempting
338
00:15:14,665 --> 00:15:16,683
to illuminate, Your Honor.
339
00:15:17,196 --> 00:15:19,201
Objection overruled.
340
00:15:19,498 --> 00:15:20,977
You may proceed.
341
00:15:21,397 --> 00:15:23,758
Yeah. Now,
I'll ask just one more time.
342
00:15:23,843 --> 00:15:27,493
How many jobs did you hold
during the three-year period
343
00:15:27,578 --> 00:15:29,313
after your daughter's birth?
344
00:15:30,766 --> 00:15:32,098
Five.
345
00:15:32,182 --> 00:15:34,534
Five. Really?
346
00:15:34,618 --> 00:15:35,774
Huh.
347
00:15:35,859 --> 00:15:37,744
Our records show 11, sir.
348
00:15:40,956 --> 00:15:42,626
Do you care to venture
349
00:15:42,780 --> 00:15:45,766
as to how many alcohol-related
arrests during that period?
350
00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:49,782
I imagine you have that number as well. Oh,
I do,
351
00:15:49,904 --> 00:15:53,640
I do, and it's almost as high
as the number of jobs lost.
352
00:15:54,531 --> 00:15:57,305
Again, beginning with the birth
of your first child,
353
00:15:57,390 --> 00:15:59,956
you were also on periods
of federal assistance,
354
00:16:00,041 --> 00:16:01,033
were you not?
355
00:16:01,118 --> 00:16:02,469
Yes.
356
00:16:02,900 --> 00:16:04,674
I was on assistance,
but I'm not any longer.
357
00:16:04,759 --> 00:16:05,924
I haven't been for years.
358
00:16:06,009 --> 00:16:08,233
In fact,
you remained on assistance
359
00:16:08,318 --> 00:16:10,947
for almost 18 months after your
daughter's disappearance, right?
360
00:16:11,032 --> 00:16:12,643
Yeah. So?
And isn't it also true
361
00:16:12,728 --> 00:16:14,322
that you never mentioned
362
00:16:14,407 --> 00:16:16,908
to your caseworker that
your daughter was gone,
363
00:16:17,037 --> 00:16:18,855
so that you
can continue to receive
364
00:16:19,063 --> 00:16:21,246
that extra assistance
the government pays
365
00:16:21,331 --> 00:16:23,353
to families with minor children?
366
00:16:27,283 --> 00:16:28,588
How's the view?
367
00:16:28,752 --> 00:16:30,854
Nobody is switching sides yet,
368
00:16:30,939 --> 00:16:32,525
but I can see we definitely have
369
00:16:32,610 --> 00:16:34,495
- their attention.
- I'm sorry,
370
00:16:34,580 --> 00:16:36,064
I-I didn't hear what you said.
371
00:16:36,314 --> 00:16:37,949
Like I said,
it was a difficult time.
372
00:16:38,034 --> 00:16:39,400
Ah.
373
00:16:40,653 --> 00:16:42,213
I made some mistakes.
374
00:16:43,361 --> 00:16:46,239
I didn't attend to certain
things that needed attending to.
375
00:16:46,323 --> 00:16:47,607
I won't deny that.
376
00:16:48,049 --> 00:16:49,142
But I was a little busy
377
00:16:49,226 --> 00:16:51,963
putting up posters
on telephone polls...
378
00:16:52,916 --> 00:16:55,147
spending my days
looking for my child.
379
00:16:55,525 --> 00:16:57,080
Be that as it may,
380
00:16:57,165 --> 00:17:00,096
you accepted federal funds
under false pretense,
381
00:17:00,419 --> 00:17:01,787
- didn't you?
- Objection.
382
00:17:01,872 --> 00:17:03,150
Asked and answered.
383
00:17:03,235 --> 00:17:04,619
Objection sustained.
384
00:17:04,704 --> 00:17:06,822
Ask another question.
385
00:17:07,237 --> 00:17:09,650
Actually, I have no further
questions, Your Honor.
386
00:17:25,846 --> 00:17:29,478
I'm worried. I haven't heard
from Chloe since yesterday.
387
00:17:30,166 --> 00:17:31,723
That's funny, she
missed her appointment
388
00:17:31,807 --> 00:17:34,383
with Chunk this morning
to go over her testimony.
389
00:17:34,467 --> 00:17:37,775
All rise
for the Honorable Judge Hopkins.
390
00:17:41,361 --> 00:17:42,857
Ms. Lawson,
391
00:17:42,942 --> 00:17:45,635
thank you for making the
trip up from Florida.
392
00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,872
Now, in 2008,
393
00:17:48,214 --> 00:17:50,399
you were the Florida
Child Services investigator
394
00:17:50,483 --> 00:17:52,601
assigned to Sarah Cooper's case.
395
00:17:52,685 --> 00:17:54,291
- Isn't that correct?
- Yes.
396
00:17:54,487 --> 00:17:57,072
And apparently,
you were called to the home
397
00:17:57,156 --> 00:17:58,807
a number of times.
398
00:17:58,892 --> 00:18:00,443
I was.
399
00:18:00,528 --> 00:18:01,712
Her aunt...
400
00:18:01,894 --> 00:18:04,128
the defendant...
401
00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:05,714
seemed convinced that
there was
402
00:18:05,798 --> 00:18:07,831
some sort of abuse
going on in the household.
403
00:18:07,916 --> 00:18:09,385
So you investigated?
404
00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:10,421
I did.
405
00:18:10,506 --> 00:18:12,557
And what did
you discover?
406
00:18:12,689 --> 00:18:15,588
I found some minor issues
with hygiene.
407
00:18:15,673 --> 00:18:17,702
How do you mean?
The kitchen sink
408
00:18:17,787 --> 00:18:19,018
had dirty dishes in it.
409
00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:21,688
Sarah's clothes
hadn't been washed in a while.
410
00:18:22,064 --> 00:18:23,732
Pretty standard stuff.
411
00:18:23,816 --> 00:18:26,417
And frankly,
to be expected in a household
412
00:18:26,502 --> 00:18:28,198
where the mother had just
passed.
413
00:18:28,282 --> 00:18:29,548
And wasn't there also
414
00:18:29,644 --> 00:18:32,774
some concern about a bruise
or bruises on her arms and legs?
415
00:18:33,002 --> 00:18:35,943
Again,
concerns from the defendant.
416
00:18:36,028 --> 00:18:37,279
But when I saw the child,
417
00:18:37,363 --> 00:18:40,144
it was hard to determine
exactly what we were looking at.
418
00:18:40,449 --> 00:18:43,684
Now, the law requires us
to open an investigation
419
00:18:43,769 --> 00:18:46,722
24 hours after someone
files a concern,
420
00:18:46,925 --> 00:18:48,290
and we did that.
421
00:18:48,479 --> 00:18:51,620
But it did take us a couple
of days to get out there.
422
00:18:51,844 --> 00:18:54,529
And do you think that might have
accounted for your inability
423
00:18:54,613 --> 00:18:58,331
to recognize these bruises
or marks as evidence of abuse?
424
00:18:58,416 --> 00:18:59,967
Honestly, no.
425
00:19:00,323 --> 00:19:02,404
Generally speaking,
in child welfare cases,
426
00:19:02,488 --> 00:19:04,973
you're almost always talking
about injuries
427
00:19:05,057 --> 00:19:08,051
that are profound enough
to still be in evidence
428
00:19:08,136 --> 00:19:10,151
72, even 96 hours later.
429
00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:12,754
So you saw nothing
that gave you cause
430
00:19:12,839 --> 00:19:14,058
to consider removing the child
431
00:19:14,143 --> 00:19:15,727
- from the home?
- Oh, gosh, no.
432
00:19:15,827 --> 00:19:17,511
That is always a last resort.
433
00:19:18,159 --> 00:19:21,323
My feeling was that
it would be best to continue
434
00:19:21,407 --> 00:19:24,582
to monitor the case, check back
with the family bimonthly,
435
00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:25,994
so that's what we did.
436
00:19:26,078 --> 00:19:28,030
And when the child
was brought to the hospital
437
00:19:28,114 --> 00:19:28,995
with a broken arm?
438
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,932
We got there
as quickly as we could.
439
00:19:31,511 --> 00:19:34,058
But unfortunately,
when we arrived,
440
00:19:34,542 --> 00:19:37,506
the hospital had just discovered
that she was missing.
441
00:19:41,604 --> 00:19:43,698
No further questions,
Your Honor.
442
00:19:46,175 --> 00:19:47,082
I'm sure I don't need
443
00:19:47,174 --> 00:19:48,612
to tell you
we didn't win any friends
444
00:19:48,696 --> 00:19:50,614
- with that testimony.
- Hey.
445
00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:53,464
The inning's not over until
both sides have been up to bat.
446
00:19:53,710 --> 00:19:55,261
Ms. Lawson,
447
00:19:56,034 --> 00:19:58,104
you have a...
448
00:19:58,344 --> 00:20:00,662
really difficult
job, don't you?
449
00:20:00,948 --> 00:20:02,550
It's not the easiest.
450
00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:04,964
In fact, even over a decade ago,
451
00:20:05,049 --> 00:20:08,065
while you were in the midst
of the Sarah Cooper case,
452
00:20:08,187 --> 00:20:11,873
you were carrying double
the recommended number of cases,
453
00:20:11,957 --> 00:20:12,792
isn't that right?
454
00:20:12,877 --> 00:20:14,362
Goes with the territory.
455
00:20:14,471 --> 00:20:15,736
At least in Florida.
456
00:20:15,821 --> 00:20:17,139
Now, Ms. Lawson,
457
00:20:17,604 --> 00:20:20,148
after Mrs. Cooper passed away
458
00:20:20,232 --> 00:20:23,659
and during the time Sarah
was living with her father,
459
00:20:23,784 --> 00:20:25,605
were you aware of any children
460
00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:30,192
in the state of Florida
that died as a result of abuse
461
00:20:30,409 --> 00:20:33,081
while being actively monitored
by your agency?
462
00:20:33,879 --> 00:20:36,264
Sadly, I'm sure some did.
463
00:20:36,683 --> 00:20:38,487
I couldn't give you a number.
464
00:20:38,572 --> 00:20:40,534
We are talking
about 12 years ago.
465
00:20:40,619 --> 00:20:41,870
Indeed.
466
00:20:42,659 --> 00:20:45,527
Would it surprise you
to learn that 12 years ago,
467
00:20:45,612 --> 00:20:48,609
that number was actually 79?
468
00:20:51,157 --> 00:20:54,515
79 children died
469
00:20:54,948 --> 00:20:58,120
as a result of abuse
while being actively monitored
470
00:20:58,204 --> 00:21:01,089
by Florida Child Service
investigators.
471
00:21:01,173 --> 00:21:02,667
Now,
472
00:21:02,885 --> 00:21:04,434
how long do you think
the defendant
473
00:21:04,519 --> 00:21:05,237
should have waited?
474
00:21:05,346 --> 00:21:07,276
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
475
00:21:07,361 --> 00:21:10,276
How long should
the defendant have waited
476
00:21:10,472 --> 00:21:13,458
before her sister's child
was number 80?
477
00:21:17,276 --> 00:21:18,507
Mr. Colón.
478
00:21:18,783 --> 00:21:20,007
You are out of order.
479
00:21:20,092 --> 00:21:21,527
Now the jury
will ignore
480
00:21:21,612 --> 00:21:22,744
that last question.
481
00:21:22,979 --> 00:21:24,312
I apologize, Your Honor.
482
00:21:24,396 --> 00:21:26,515
Actually, I have
no further questions
483
00:21:26,599 --> 00:21:27,886
at this time.
484
00:21:28,049 --> 00:21:29,249
Does the prosecution have
485
00:21:29,334 --> 00:21:31,252
any further questions
for this witness?
486
00:21:31,464 --> 00:21:33,188
Not at this time, Your Honor.
487
00:21:33,701 --> 00:21:35,354
Then the witness is excused.
488
00:21:37,041 --> 00:21:39,800
Please call your next witness.
489
00:21:41,367 --> 00:21:44,286
The prosecution would like to
call Sarah Cooper to the stand.
490
00:22:04,128 --> 00:22:06,940
What was it like to find out
491
00:22:07,041 --> 00:22:09,050
your name wasn't
your name,
492
00:22:09,175 --> 00:22:11,315
your mother wasn't
your mother?
493
00:22:11,556 --> 00:22:13,245
It's hard to describe.
494
00:22:13,808 --> 00:22:16,410
Were you surprised to
learn that your biological father
495
00:22:16,495 --> 00:22:17,290
was alive,
after being told
496
00:22:17,374 --> 00:22:20,479
for so many years
that he had died
497
00:22:20,564 --> 00:22:22,003
in Afghanistan?
498
00:22:22,656 --> 00:22:23,673
Of course.
499
00:22:23,886 --> 00:22:25,047
And what were
you thinking,
500
00:22:25,132 --> 00:22:28,190
when you sat here
in this courtroom
501
00:22:28,275 --> 00:22:30,628
two days ago
and watched him,
502
00:22:30,744 --> 00:22:32,161
very much alive,
503
00:22:32,246 --> 00:22:35,573
testify about how much
he loved you and missed you?
504
00:22:36,462 --> 00:22:38,604
Just that I wanted
to talk to him.
505
00:22:40,041 --> 00:22:41,707
Get to know him a little bit.
506
00:22:42,666 --> 00:22:44,284
Now,
507
00:22:44,790 --> 00:22:46,503
let's talk about your aunt.
508
00:22:47,785 --> 00:22:50,738
After years of telling you
that she was your mother,
509
00:22:51,150 --> 00:22:53,112
that your father
had died overseas,
510
00:22:53,197 --> 00:22:55,472
what did she tell you
about your father
511
00:22:55,557 --> 00:22:58,643
once she admitted that
he was, in fact, alive?
512
00:22:58,763 --> 00:23:01,012
What did she offer
as an excuse
513
00:23:01,097 --> 00:23:03,424
for taking you from him?
514
00:23:03,675 --> 00:23:05,784
For keeping you from him?
515
00:23:06,063 --> 00:23:08,763
She said that he hurt
my real mother.
516
00:23:11,497 --> 00:23:13,415
She said that he hurt me.
517
00:23:14,148 --> 00:23:15,370
He broke my arm.
518
00:23:15,455 --> 00:23:16,572
Did you believe her?
519
00:23:16,657 --> 00:23:19,042
Objection.
Calls for speculation.
520
00:23:19,186 --> 00:23:21,112
The attorney
is badgering the witness.
521
00:23:21,197 --> 00:23:23,378
And I question
the relevance
522
00:23:23,463 --> 00:23:24,781
of this whole line
of questioning.
523
00:23:24,865 --> 00:23:26,717
I'll withdraw the question,
Your Honor.
524
00:23:26,802 --> 00:23:28,802
But if I may just ask
one more thing.
525
00:23:30,036 --> 00:23:31,420
Sarah,
526
00:23:31,505 --> 00:23:33,423
are you open to the possibility
527
00:23:33,508 --> 00:23:35,347
of a relationship
with your father
528
00:23:35,569 --> 00:23:37,336
now that you know
that he is alive?
529
00:23:38,739 --> 00:23:40,183
I guess so.
530
00:23:41,706 --> 00:23:43,460
He seems nice.
531
00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:45,003
And I'd...
532
00:23:45,088 --> 00:23:47,706
kinda like to know
what it's like to have a father.
533
00:23:50,128 --> 00:23:51,519
No further questions,
534
00:23:51,604 --> 00:23:52,978
Your Honor.
535
00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:57,487
Chloe...
536
00:23:58,674 --> 00:24:00,992
Is it okay
if I call you Chloe?
537
00:24:01,169 --> 00:24:03,401
Would you rather I
address you as Sarah?
538
00:24:03,726 --> 00:24:05,310
Chloe's okay.
539
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,034
I'm kinda used to Chloe.
540
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,569
Chloe it is.
541
00:24:08,950 --> 00:24:12,203
Now, why do you think
542
00:24:12,459 --> 00:24:15,175
your mother made you believe
your father was a war hero?
543
00:24:15,260 --> 00:24:16,344
I don't know.
544
00:24:16,429 --> 00:24:17,956
I guess so I'd respect him,
545
00:24:18,277 --> 00:24:19,550
feel good about him.
546
00:24:19,635 --> 00:24:20,952
And did she ever...
547
00:24:21,037 --> 00:24:23,597
say anything negative about him
548
00:24:23,784 --> 00:24:26,837
prior to the police
charging her with kidnapping?
549
00:24:26,921 --> 00:24:28,144
No. Never.
550
00:24:28,922 --> 00:24:30,417
Actually,
she always talked about him
551
00:24:30,502 --> 00:24:31,979
like he was pretty amazing.
552
00:24:32,064 --> 00:24:35,611
And would you say
you've been well-cared-for
553
00:24:35,696 --> 00:24:37,308
these past 12 years?
554
00:24:38,284 --> 00:24:40,464
Well-clothed? Well-fed?
555
00:24:40,549 --> 00:24:42,134
Did you feel loved?
556
00:24:42,219 --> 00:24:43,569
I did. Yes.
557
00:24:43,654 --> 00:24:46,612
And didn't your mother
put you in private school?
558
00:24:47,367 --> 00:24:49,909
Encourage you to
learn the violin?
559
00:24:49,994 --> 00:24:52,183
Teach you Spanish
and French?
560
00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:53,831
You mean my aunt?
561
00:24:54,456 --> 00:24:55,308
Yes,
562
00:24:55,393 --> 00:24:57,244
she's been
a wonderful parent to me.
563
00:24:57,523 --> 00:24:59,842
And you're old enough
to understand that...
564
00:24:59,927 --> 00:25:01,978
private school,
565
00:25:02,063 --> 00:25:04,248
tutors, music lessons...
566
00:25:04,518 --> 00:25:06,277
All of that costs money.
567
00:25:06,654 --> 00:25:08,905
And who was it that
was paying for it?
568
00:25:09,199 --> 00:25:10,381
My aunt.
569
00:25:10,466 --> 00:25:11,750
And, lastly,
570
00:25:11,835 --> 00:25:15,574
have you ever known your aunt
to be violent or aggressive?
571
00:25:15,681 --> 00:25:16,681
No.
572
00:25:17,423 --> 00:25:18,839
Did she ever hit you?
573
00:25:18,924 --> 00:25:19,823
No.
574
00:25:19,908 --> 00:25:21,358
She ever curse at you?- No.
575
00:25:21,443 --> 00:25:23,095
Raise her voice?
576
00:25:23,738 --> 00:25:24,800
Once or twice.
577
00:25:24,885 --> 00:25:26,652
But I probably deserved it.
578
00:25:28,270 --> 00:25:29,660
Do you think she loves you?
579
00:25:30,573 --> 00:25:31,902
Uh, yes.
580
00:25:32,452 --> 00:25:34,230
I know she does.
581
00:25:34,655 --> 00:25:36,136
Thank you.
582
00:25:36,413 --> 00:25:38,379
No further questions,
Your Honor.
583
00:25:41,730 --> 00:25:43,247
Give me a burp.
584
00:25:43,441 --> 00:25:45,359
I can't put you down
till I get a burp.
585
00:25:48,362 --> 00:25:49,769
Hey.
586
00:25:50,705 --> 00:25:52,410
That was the wrong end.
587
00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:54,948
Come on.
588
00:25:55,097 --> 00:25:56,246
I need a burp.
589
00:25:56,354 --> 00:25:57,671
Here we go.
590
00:25:58,028 --> 00:25:59,464
That's a girl.
591
00:26:00,495 --> 00:26:02,546
Give me a burp.
592
00:26:02,903 --> 00:26:04,903
I...
593
00:26:09,850 --> 00:26:11,368
Hello, Marissa.
594
00:26:11,538 --> 00:26:13,199
Am I catching you at a bad time?
595
00:26:13,284 --> 00:26:16,246
No, I'm just trying to wrap up
the 10:00 p.m. feeding here
596
00:26:16,331 --> 00:26:17,849
in Astrid-land.
597
00:26:17,961 --> 00:26:19,212
Intake went well.
598
00:26:19,297 --> 00:26:21,105
We're just working
on some outbound action.
599
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:22,107
What's up?
600
00:26:22,192 --> 00:26:24,043
Danny just called from Florida.
601
00:26:24,128 --> 00:26:26,324
She's found two people
that seem to corroborate.
602
00:26:26,409 --> 00:26:27,860
Elena's story about Jim.
603
00:26:28,242 --> 00:26:29,480
One is a teacher
604
00:26:29,565 --> 00:26:31,616
at a preschool that
Jim's two-year-old attended.
605
00:26:32,001 --> 00:26:35,454
That is until she asked
questions about bruises
606
00:26:35,539 --> 00:26:38,128
the little boy started showing
up to school with. Shh...
607
00:26:38,213 --> 00:26:39,576
And she also found
608
00:26:39,661 --> 00:26:42,046
a dermatologist
his new wife was seeing.
609
00:26:42,256 --> 00:26:44,126
Apparently, she has something
to say as well.
610
00:26:44,425 --> 00:26:47,266
Both are willing
to fly up to testify.
611
00:26:47,351 --> 00:26:48,935
Well, why don't you e-mail me
612
00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:50,479
all the pertinent details,
613
00:26:50,564 --> 00:26:52,002
and Benny and I will add 'em
to the witness list
614
00:26:52,086 --> 00:26:53,291
tomorrow morning.
615
00:26:53,376 --> 00:26:55,508
Did Danny find the wife yet?
616
00:26:55,758 --> 00:26:57,485
She thinks
she might be away on business,
617
00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:59,221
- but she's still looking.
- Okay.
618
00:26:59,962 --> 00:27:01,869
Ooh, I felt that.
619
00:27:01,954 --> 00:27:03,665
I got to go.
620
00:27:04,011 --> 00:27:06,295
Your Honor,
these new witnesses
621
00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:08,244
- aren't witnesses.
- Excuse me,
622
00:27:08,329 --> 00:27:10,247
but the prosecution has rested.
623
00:27:10,453 --> 00:27:12,571
It is now time for the defense
624
00:27:12,656 --> 00:27:14,517
to present our defense,
625
00:27:14,602 --> 00:27:16,688
which is what we're trying
to do right now, Your Honor.
626
00:27:16,772 --> 00:27:19,625
Your Honor, not only have
we had no time to prepare...
627
00:27:19,710 --> 00:27:21,127
Oh, take all the time you need.
628
00:27:21,212 --> 00:27:22,212
Your Honor...
629
00:27:23,630 --> 00:27:25,204
The charges before the court
630
00:27:25,289 --> 00:27:27,064
are extremely serious...
Which is why
631
00:27:27,149 --> 00:27:30,201
these witnesses are so
important, Your Honor.
632
00:27:30,599 --> 00:27:34,087
They directly contradict
Jim Cooper's testimony.
633
00:27:34,242 --> 00:27:35,426
He said under oath
634
00:27:35,511 --> 00:27:38,097
that he has never
physically abused anyone.
635
00:27:38,182 --> 00:27:40,000
Well, we have records
636
00:27:40,085 --> 00:27:42,478
from Jim Cooper's
two-year-old son's
637
00:27:42,683 --> 00:27:44,447
former preschool teacher,
638
00:27:44,532 --> 00:27:46,717
who noticed fresh bruises
on the boy.
639
00:27:46,924 --> 00:27:49,509
And when she confronted him
about the bruises,
640
00:27:49,594 --> 00:27:52,119
the teacher said
that he abruptly pulled the kid
641
00:27:52,204 --> 00:27:53,154
from the school.
642
00:27:53,239 --> 00:27:54,156
In other words,
643
00:27:54,241 --> 00:27:55,993
she witnessed nothing.
644
00:27:56,078 --> 00:27:57,328
And, secondly,
645
00:27:57,413 --> 00:28:00,466
the current Mrs.
Cooper's dermatologist
646
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,826
treated her for a
burn on her forearm,
647
00:28:03,911 --> 00:28:06,229
which she suspected
was from a cigarette,
648
00:28:06,314 --> 00:28:07,447
less than four weeks ago.
649
00:28:07,532 --> 00:28:09,283
Again, this is
circumstantial evidence
650
00:28:09,368 --> 00:28:11,753
and is irrelevant
to the kidnapping charges.
651
00:28:15,285 --> 00:28:18,238
AUSA Knight makes a valid point.
652
00:28:18,510 --> 00:28:19,961
The real question
653
00:28:20,046 --> 00:28:22,898
is did the witnesses
actually see.
654
00:28:23,012 --> 00:28:24,486
Mr. Cooper inflict
these injuries.
655
00:28:24,571 --> 00:28:26,572
Judge Hopkins,
we all know it's unlikely
656
00:28:26,657 --> 00:28:29,042
that Mr. Cooper would beat
his two-year-old son
657
00:28:29,127 --> 00:28:30,384
in front of a crowd
of onlookers
658
00:28:30,469 --> 00:28:32,306
or burn his wife in public.
659
00:28:32,466 --> 00:28:33,548
Your Honor,
660
00:28:33,633 --> 00:28:36,712
the jury should be allowed
to hear the testimony,
661
00:28:36,949 --> 00:28:39,462
review the documents,
draw their own inferences.
662
00:28:39,547 --> 00:28:41,390
No, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm-I'm sorry.
663
00:28:41,475 --> 00:28:42,559
I don't agree.
664
00:28:42,643 --> 00:28:43,908
Mr. Cooper is not
665
00:28:43,993 --> 00:28:45,244
on trial here.
666
00:28:45,491 --> 00:28:47,242
And the probative value
667
00:28:47,327 --> 00:28:51,400
of what sounds like speculation
and-and hearsay
668
00:28:51,485 --> 00:28:54,304
is outweighed by the prejudicial
effect it's certain to have.
669
00:28:54,389 --> 00:28:55,640
And none of it
is relevant
670
00:28:55,725 --> 00:28:58,572
as to whether or not
your client kidnapped his child,
671
00:28:58,657 --> 00:29:01,806
which is the only issue
the jury is here to resolve.
672
00:29:01,891 --> 00:29:05,525
Now, I have to agree
with prosecution.
673
00:29:05,699 --> 00:29:07,290
Unless these people
674
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:09,980
actually witnessed Mr. Cooper
hurt someone,
675
00:29:10,065 --> 00:29:12,040
their testimony is irrelevant.
676
00:29:12,125 --> 00:29:14,658
Do you have any other witnesses
you want to present?
677
00:29:15,035 --> 00:29:16,219
With Your Honor's permission,
678
00:29:16,304 --> 00:29:19,022
we would like to ask
for a one-day continuance.
679
00:29:19,379 --> 00:29:22,298
I'd love to confer
with my client on next steps.
680
00:29:23,689 --> 00:29:25,072
It's like I told you.
681
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:28,182
Bottom line is
she did it.
682
00:29:28,431 --> 00:29:30,470
She took
this man's child.
683
00:29:31,091 --> 00:29:32,267
Kind of impossible
684
00:29:32,352 --> 00:29:35,251
to mount a defense against
something that's indisputable.
685
00:29:42,051 --> 00:29:43,161
I just heard.
686
00:29:43,246 --> 00:29:44,824
No court today.
687
00:29:45,227 --> 00:29:47,567
They want me to change,
take me back to prison.
688
00:29:47,681 --> 00:29:49,715
Is everything all right?
689
00:29:50,618 --> 00:29:51,902
We need to talk.
690
00:29:52,801 --> 00:29:54,020
We can
691
00:29:54,105 --> 00:29:54,949
press forward.
692
00:29:55,034 --> 00:29:57,020
Mr. Colón could put you
on the stand.
693
00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:59,504
You're really
the only witness we have.
694
00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:01,006
Unfortunately,
695
00:30:01,753 --> 00:30:03,121
you're not the witness we need.
696
00:30:04,390 --> 00:30:05,641
What do you mean?
697
00:30:05,945 --> 00:30:06,902
We need someone
698
00:30:06,987 --> 00:30:08,572
who can tell the jury under oath
699
00:30:08,657 --> 00:30:12,543
that they've actually seen
Mr. Cooper be physically abusive.
700
00:30:13,121 --> 00:30:15,301
Preferably
multiple times.
701
00:30:15,484 --> 00:30:16,602
It's the only thing
702
00:30:16,687 --> 00:30:19,539
that's gonna make the jury
second-guess
703
00:30:19,624 --> 00:30:20,817
the A.D.A.'s assertion
704
00:30:20,902 --> 00:30:22,686
that you're nothing more
than a kidnapper.
705
00:30:23,067 --> 00:30:25,327
With your permission,
what I'd like to do
706
00:30:25,412 --> 00:30:28,129
is go to the A.D.A.
and see if we can't broker
707
00:30:28,214 --> 00:30:29,331
some kind of a deal.
708
00:30:29,597 --> 00:30:31,176
She's not a
stupid person.
709
00:30:31,261 --> 00:30:33,301
She knows
that this hearsay
710
00:30:33,386 --> 00:30:35,917
and circumstantial evidence
may not hold up in court,
711
00:30:36,002 --> 00:30:39,504
but I'm willing to bet she knows
there's a whiff of truth to it.
712
00:30:40,215 --> 00:30:41,945
Maybe we can use that
713
00:30:42,231 --> 00:30:45,081
to wrestle
some favorable terms from her.
714
00:30:45,598 --> 00:30:47,574
Would I still have
to go to prison?
715
00:30:48,688 --> 00:30:50,082
Yes.
716
00:30:50,548 --> 00:30:53,152
I'm hoping we can keep it
to less than five years,
717
00:30:53,237 --> 00:30:56,082
as opposed to the ten to 20
you're looking at now.
718
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,559
Oh, my God.
719
00:31:02,482 --> 00:31:03,949
What about Chloe?
720
00:31:04,862 --> 00:31:06,007
She'd be
721
00:31:06,092 --> 00:31:07,643
returned back to her father.
722
00:31:11,258 --> 00:31:12,402
She's 15.
723
00:31:12,518 --> 00:31:13,965
If he starts abusing her,
724
00:31:14,226 --> 00:31:16,144
it will not stay secret long.
725
00:31:16,229 --> 00:31:17,747
And for what it's worth,
726
00:31:17,854 --> 00:31:20,809
your ex-brother-in-law
is on notice.
727
00:31:20,894 --> 00:31:22,008
He knows
728
00:31:22,093 --> 00:31:24,011
we're all watching.
729
00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:26,965
And would I ever get
to see her again?
730
00:31:28,337 --> 00:31:30,689
Do I get to see Chloe?
731
00:31:33,097 --> 00:31:35,410
You'd be
a convicted kidnapper, so...
732
00:31:36,182 --> 00:31:37,293
no, I don't think
733
00:31:37,378 --> 00:31:38,996
that's at all likely.
734
00:31:54,017 --> 00:31:55,473
Mrs. Cooper?
735
00:31:56,648 --> 00:31:59,043
My name is Danny James.
I'm an investigator
736
00:31:59,128 --> 00:32:01,582
working on a court case
involving your husband
737
00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:04,246
and his daughter
from a previous marriage.
738
00:32:04,726 --> 00:32:07,011
I'm... kind of
on vacation with my son.
739
00:32:07,119 --> 00:32:09,004
I don't really want
to get involved.
740
00:32:09,089 --> 00:32:10,918
I promise,
it'll be two minutes.
741
00:32:13,873 --> 00:32:16,309
Mrs. Cooper,
don't make me get a subpoena.
742
00:32:23,814 --> 00:32:25,762
Can we make this fast?
743
00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:29,754
I-I promised my little boy
I would take him to a water park.
744
00:32:29,864 --> 00:32:31,567
Sure. And I'm sorry.
745
00:32:32,263 --> 00:32:34,777
Uh, look, we have reason
to believe that your husband
746
00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:37,567
may have been physically abusive
to your little boy.
747
00:32:37,769 --> 00:32:39,582
And to you.
748
00:32:39,783 --> 00:32:41,134
Seriously?
749
00:32:41,539 --> 00:32:43,410
That's what you want
to talk to me about?
750
00:32:43,691 --> 00:32:45,317
Where did you
hear that?
751
00:32:45,402 --> 00:32:47,102
That's crazy.
752
00:32:48,007 --> 00:32:49,425
Are you married?
753
00:32:50,181 --> 00:32:51,285
You ever been married?
754
00:32:51,783 --> 00:32:53,867
No. Well, I've only been at it
755
00:32:53,951 --> 00:32:56,637
for a few years, but let
me tell you two things
756
00:32:56,721 --> 00:32:57,957
I know for sure.
757
00:32:58,042 --> 00:33:00,594
One, marriage,
758
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,533
like any deal, is filled
with lots of good
759
00:33:04,618 --> 00:33:06,602
and also some bad.
760
00:33:06,687 --> 00:33:08,059
My boy.
761
00:33:08,144 --> 00:33:09,328
I love my boy.
762
00:33:10,144 --> 00:33:12,218
And that's one of the
goods, one of the greats.
763
00:33:12,714 --> 00:33:14,582
And I don't worry
much about...
764
00:33:14,718 --> 00:33:17,970
bills anymore, and you
can't hate that, so...
765
00:33:18,055 --> 00:33:19,888
if my husband comes
home sometimes
766
00:33:19,973 --> 00:33:22,199
and he's not in a stellar mood,
then...
767
00:33:22,283 --> 00:33:23,350
I'm not just talking
about someon
768
00:33:23,434 --> 00:33:24,660
in a bad mood,
Mrs. Cooper.
769
00:33:24,744 --> 00:33:27,363
And the other thing...
and you ought to know this...
770
00:33:27,456 --> 00:33:30,582
Uh, you can't force me to
testify against my own husband.
771
00:33:31,633 --> 00:33:33,199
You can't.
772
00:33:34,621 --> 00:33:36,567
Plus, I don't have
anything to testify to.
773
00:33:37,812 --> 00:33:40,145
So are we done here?
774
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:42,613
I can help you.
I can help both of you.
775
00:33:43,987 --> 00:33:45,223
By how?
776
00:33:45,602 --> 00:33:48,129
By-by destroying my family?
777
00:33:48,879 --> 00:33:51,058
And anyway,
like I said...
778
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,215
isn't what happens between
a husband and a wife private?
779
00:33:54,315 --> 00:33:57,574
Conversations between spouses
are privileged, but...
780
00:33:58,082 --> 00:34:00,731
not when there are
allegations of abuse.
781
00:34:00,816 --> 00:34:02,567
Okay, I think you
need to go now.
782
00:34:02,652 --> 00:34:04,637
You wouldn't have to look
at him in court.
783
00:34:04,722 --> 00:34:06,598
We could have him
sequestered.
784
00:34:06,683 --> 00:34:09,910
And after the trial,
my boss and I, we would help you
785
00:34:09,995 --> 00:34:12,059
and your little son
back on your feet.
786
00:34:12,144 --> 00:34:14,228
And in a safe place,
I promise.
787
00:34:14,313 --> 00:34:16,131
That is...
788
00:34:16,473 --> 00:34:18,223
if you're willing
to testify.
789
00:34:19,585 --> 00:34:20,590
That is...
790
00:34:20,675 --> 00:34:22,493
if you're willing to admit
791
00:34:22,937 --> 00:34:25,004
you actually have something
to testify to.
792
00:34:27,355 --> 00:34:28,824
Mommy?
793
00:34:29,313 --> 00:34:30,692
Oh.
794
00:34:31,003 --> 00:34:32,442
Noah.
795
00:34:33,952 --> 00:34:36,098
Say hello to the nice lady.
796
00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:51,059
Let me call my mother.
797
00:34:52,236 --> 00:34:54,254
See if she can take my baby.
798
00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,598
Mrs. Cooper,
799
00:34:58,274 --> 00:35:01,660
I know it's uncomfortable
you being here.
800
00:35:01,846 --> 00:35:05,332
We've sequestered your
husband as per your request,
801
00:35:05,416 --> 00:35:07,364
and, speaking for the defense,
802
00:35:07,449 --> 00:35:09,367
we really appreciate you
making the trip.
803
00:35:10,027 --> 00:35:11,997
- It's okay.
- Now,
804
00:35:12,082 --> 00:35:16,102
when your husband told you
he needed to come to New York
805
00:35:16,187 --> 00:35:17,838
for a court date,
806
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:20,291
did he explain the
nature of the trial?
807
00:35:20,723 --> 00:35:22,239
Uh, no, not really.
808
00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:25,411
He said it was
a business thing.
809
00:35:25,903 --> 00:35:28,364
So you and your
two-year-old son
810
00:35:28,449 --> 00:35:30,900
just decided to take
a little road trip?
811
00:35:31,145 --> 00:35:32,583
Yes.
812
00:35:32,868 --> 00:35:34,348
I just...
813
00:35:35,296 --> 00:35:37,270
with Jim away...
814
00:35:38,299 --> 00:35:40,551
I just needed
to do some thinking.
815
00:35:40,636 --> 00:35:41,753
Well...
816
00:35:42,247 --> 00:35:44,887
I'm sorry to have
interrupted your trip.
817
00:35:45,384 --> 00:35:47,584
So let me get
right into it.
818
00:35:49,450 --> 00:35:50,785
Here goes nothing.
819
00:35:50,917 --> 00:35:52,200
Mrs. Cooper,
820
00:35:52,285 --> 00:35:55,137
have you ever been
afraid of your husband?
821
00:35:55,566 --> 00:35:56,973
Yes.
822
00:35:57,058 --> 00:35:59,661
And can you please
explain to the jury why?
823
00:36:00,744 --> 00:36:03,708
Uh, he yells at me
sometimes.
824
00:36:04,726 --> 00:36:06,744
Like when
our two-year-old cries.
825
00:36:07,608 --> 00:36:10,475
And he'll, uh, slam doors...
826
00:36:11,064 --> 00:36:14,217
break things
when something upsets him.
827
00:36:14,552 --> 00:36:15,819
And in the past,
828
00:36:15,904 --> 00:36:18,468
when something upset him,
has he ever gotten physical
829
00:36:18,553 --> 00:36:19,702
with you or Noah?
830
00:36:22,897 --> 00:36:24,815
This was from a week ago.
831
00:36:32,468 --> 00:36:33,578
Let the record reflect
832
00:36:33,662 --> 00:36:35,671
that the witness is talking
833
00:36:35,756 --> 00:36:39,758
about the bruising and swelling
on the right side of her face.
834
00:36:40,844 --> 00:36:44,702
And can you please explain the
events surrounding the injury?
835
00:36:45,248 --> 00:36:47,889
I told Jim
I wanted to go back to school,
836
00:36:49,020 --> 00:36:52,163
and he started screaming
about who would care for Noah.
837
00:36:52,758 --> 00:36:54,350
And then what happened?
838
00:36:54,825 --> 00:36:57,905
I-I told him...
that we would figure it out.
839
00:36:57,997 --> 00:36:59,843
A lot of people figure it out.
840
00:37:00,104 --> 00:37:02,093
- And how did he respond?
- He...
841
00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:04,882
balled up his fist and...
842
00:37:07,628 --> 00:37:09,212
I lost two teeth.
843
00:37:14,820 --> 00:37:17,600
Now, let's talk
about your two-year-old son.
844
00:37:18,382 --> 00:37:21,374
He has his arm in a
sling, doesn't he?
845
00:37:21,786 --> 00:37:22,975
He does.
846
00:37:23,083 --> 00:37:24,200
And...
847
00:37:24,285 --> 00:37:25,769
do you know what
happened to him?
848
00:37:26,223 --> 00:37:28,366
Yes, and no.
849
00:37:28,893 --> 00:37:31,319
I had to work on a Saturday,
850
00:37:31,594 --> 00:37:33,460
and Jim stayed home with him.
851
00:37:33,912 --> 00:37:35,577
He wasn't happy about it.
852
00:37:37,334 --> 00:37:39,272
And when I got home
eight hours later,
853
00:37:39,357 --> 00:37:42,025
they had already been
to the emergency room and back.
854
00:37:43,551 --> 00:37:47,070
Apparently, Noah's arm
got pulled out of its socket.
855
00:37:50,181 --> 00:37:52,272
Jim said they
were just horsing around.
856
00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:58,107
What did Noah say?
857
00:37:58,192 --> 00:37:59,593
Objection. Hearsay.
858
00:37:59,779 --> 00:38:00,996
Your Honor,
859
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,731
the child is
two years old.
860
00:38:03,181 --> 00:38:04,703
Would you really have me
861
00:38:04,788 --> 00:38:05,679
call him here
862
00:38:05,764 --> 00:38:08,432
- to testify?
- I'll allow it.
863
00:38:09,061 --> 00:38:10,756
Witness will answer
the question.
864
00:38:11,502 --> 00:38:13,587
No, he-he didn't
really say anything.
865
00:38:13,841 --> 00:38:16,672
He's only two,
and he's very shy.
866
00:38:18,374 --> 00:38:20,076
But every time
Jim comes near him,
867
00:38:20,161 --> 00:38:21,998
- he hides behind my leg.
- Objection.
868
00:38:22,083 --> 00:38:24,268
Your Honor,
this is simply speculation.
869
00:38:24,353 --> 00:38:25,662
It proves nothing.
870
00:38:25,796 --> 00:38:28,281
Objection sustained.
The jury will disregard
871
00:38:28,366 --> 00:38:29,896
the witness's testimony
with respect
872
00:38:29,981 --> 00:38:31,802
to her two-year-old child.
873
00:38:32,388 --> 00:38:34,540
Isn't it true
your son had
874
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:37,552
a preschool teacher
that expressed concern
875
00:38:37,996 --> 00:38:40,848
about visible bruising
on the boy's body
876
00:38:41,357 --> 00:38:43,007
and brought it
to your husband's attention,
877
00:38:43,091 --> 00:38:46,630
who responded by withdrawing
your child from the school?
878
00:38:46,738 --> 00:38:48,698
- Way to slip one in, Benny.
- Your Honor,
879
00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:51,154
objection.
This is just more hearsay
880
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,912
masquerading as testimony.
881
00:38:52,997 --> 00:38:55,232
Objection sustained.
Counselor,
882
00:38:55,607 --> 00:38:57,068
I know what you're doing.
883
00:38:57,153 --> 00:38:58,380
I don't like it.
884
00:38:58,465 --> 00:39:00,016
Now, I need you to ask questions
885
00:39:00,101 --> 00:39:01,685
that pertain only to events
886
00:39:01,770 --> 00:39:03,530
that the witness
would have seen for herself.
887
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,484
Yes, Your Honor.
888
00:39:05,569 --> 00:39:06,920
Come on.
889
00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:08,935
They got to be reacting to this.
890
00:39:09,238 --> 00:39:12,099
Indeed they are.
You just flipped two.
891
00:39:16,269 --> 00:39:17,584
Mrs. Cooper...
892
00:39:19,692 --> 00:39:22,435
were there any other incidents
of physical violence
893
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,906
that either involved you
or to which...
894
00:39:25,991 --> 00:39:27,709
you were a
direct witness?
895
00:39:27,794 --> 00:39:30,546
He, uh...
896
00:39:30,881 --> 00:39:32,701
burned me.
897
00:39:33,915 --> 00:39:36,091
Here and here.
898
00:39:37,278 --> 00:39:38,462
With cigarettes.
899
00:39:39,154 --> 00:39:40,505
He...
900
00:39:41,353 --> 00:39:43,076
bit my ear.
901
00:39:43,994 --> 00:39:46,346
I had to get stitches.
902
00:39:46,849 --> 00:39:48,330
Anything else?
903
00:39:49,366 --> 00:39:51,310
He kicked me once.
904
00:39:52,279 --> 00:39:53,587
Kicked you where,
905
00:39:53,671 --> 00:39:55,355
Mrs. Cooper?
906
00:39:55,740 --> 00:39:57,791
Between my legs.
907
00:40:00,357 --> 00:40:01,461
And you were able
908
00:40:01,545 --> 00:40:04,076
to document
each of these incidents?
909
00:40:04,756 --> 00:40:06,365
In each case,
910
00:40:06,450 --> 00:40:08,869
you went and sought
medical attention afterwards?
911
00:40:09,193 --> 00:40:10,570
Yes.
912
00:40:10,802 --> 00:40:12,672
Although, I always
made up a story
913
00:40:12,756 --> 00:40:14,989
as to how I got the injury.
914
00:40:15,492 --> 00:40:17,153
Thank you.
915
00:40:17,369 --> 00:40:19,135
No further questions,
Your Honor.
916
00:40:25,340 --> 00:40:28,889
So, you admit you lied
about the details
917
00:40:28,973 --> 00:40:30,965
when you sought medical
help for these...
918
00:40:31,050 --> 00:40:33,135
so-called injuries?
919
00:40:33,220 --> 00:40:35,205
Yes. I was embarrassed.
920
00:40:35,461 --> 00:40:37,446
So tell me,
Mrs. Cooper,
921
00:40:37,671 --> 00:40:40,528
now that we've established
that you're an admitted liar,
922
00:40:40,984 --> 00:40:43,926
why should we believe
anything else you say?
923
00:40:44,574 --> 00:40:45,691
For instance,
924
00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:48,777
how do we know these injures
aren't self-inflicted?
925
00:40:50,065 --> 00:40:51,148
Well, I...
926
00:40:51,272 --> 00:40:53,591
I wouldn't burn my own arm...
927
00:40:54,003 --> 00:40:55,489
ma'am.
928
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,085
And I'm not even sure
how I would bite my own ear.
929
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,380
Not to mention
930
00:41:00,488 --> 00:41:02,239
kick myself...
931
00:41:02,475 --> 00:41:04,262
where I indicated.
932
00:41:21,989 --> 00:41:23,918
Wait, where is Mr. Colón?
933
00:41:24,108 --> 00:41:25,528
Well, he stayed behind
934
00:41:25,613 --> 00:41:27,606
to talk to your
ex-brother-in-law's new wife.
935
00:41:27,691 --> 00:41:29,879
She wanted to file charges
against him,
936
00:41:30,192 --> 00:41:31,997
and Benny's offered
to put her in touch
937
00:41:32,082 --> 00:41:33,497
with the D.A. in Florida.
938
00:41:37,363 --> 00:41:38,809
How do I do this?
939
00:41:39,516 --> 00:41:40,766
Where do I start?
940
00:41:40,851 --> 00:41:44,559
Am I Elena, or do I go
back to being Angela?
941
00:41:44,825 --> 00:41:47,449
What do people call me?
What do I call myself?
942
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,344
Mom!
943
00:41:55,392 --> 00:41:58,691
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00:41:58,776 --> 00:42:00,598
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