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[ HORN BLARES ]
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Valerie: I WAS INVOLVED
IN A 17-CAR PILEUP.
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IT WAS LIKE
I STEPPED INTO THIS LIGHT.
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THERE WAS NO PAIN.
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Freddy: IT WASN'T
A NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE.
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I WAS GRAVEYARD DEAD.
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[ FLATLINE ]
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Narrator:
THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY
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THEY HAVE VISITED THE AFTERLIFE,
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CHALLENGING OUR UNDERSTANDING
OF DEATH.
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MOTIVATED BY THEIR OWN
EXPERIENCES
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PULLING VICTIMS
BACK FROM THE GRAVE,
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FOUR INVESTIGATORS
NOW SEEK TO SOLVE
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THE MYSTERIES OF RESURRECTION.
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Johnny: THIS IS GONNA
HELP UNLOCK SOMETHING
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THAT HASN'T BEEN KNOWN
FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
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REGARDLESS OF RELIGION,
THE PERSON WAS DEAD,
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AND THEY CAME BACK TO LIFE.
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Jesse:
WE'RE PURSUING THIS TO SHOW
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THAT THE IMPOSSIBLE IS,
IN FACT, POSSIBLE.
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Sam: DEATH DOESN'T REALLY HAVE
THE FINAL SAY-SO.
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WHY DID YOU DEFY THE ODDS?
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Narrator:
THIS IS "PROJECT AFTERLIFE."
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CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY
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YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED
ABOUT THE FEAR OF DEATH THAT --
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THAT A LOT OF US HAVE.
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YOU KNOW,
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.
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YOU KNOW,
WE DON'T HAVE TO FEAR DEATH.
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TO TRY TO GRASP
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE DIE...
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YOU KNOW,
WHAT GOES ON, WHAT DO WE SEE,
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WHAT IS OUT THERE,
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WHAT LINES UP TO WHAT
WE'VE BEEN TAUGHT, WHAT DOESN'T?
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YOU KNOW, I WANT TO --
I WANT TO KNOW, YOU KNOW,
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AND SO DO SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
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I GOT A REALLY GOOD ONE HERE --
FREDDY VEST.
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THIS GUY'S A COWBOY FROM TEXAS.
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HE'S AT A ROPING EVENT.
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HE'S ROPING CATTLE.
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IN BETWEEN ROPING,
HE FALLS OFF HIS HORSE,
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AND HE'S DEAD
BEFORE HE HITS THE GROUND.
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Sam:
SEEMS LIKE HIS FRIEND EDDY,
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WHO WAS THERE
WORKING ON HIM
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IN BOTH THE PHYSICAL
AND SPIRITUAL REALM,
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HE MIGHT HAVE SOME GOOD INFO
FOR US.
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I WANT TO FIND OUT,
HOW DID EDDY RESPOND?
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WHAT -- WHAT MOTIVATED EDDY
TO JUST NOT GIVE UP?
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I WANT TO FIND OUT
WHAT HAPPENED ON THE OTHER SIDE.
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YOU KNOW,
WHAT BROUGHT FREDDY BACK?
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OKAY, JESSE,
WHAT YOU GOT?
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ALL RIGHT.
SO WE GOT VALERIE PATERS.
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SHE LIVES IN ARIZONA.
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NOW, SHE DIED AS A RESULT OF
A PRETTY HORRIFIC CAR ACCIDENT.
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I MEAN,
HER BODY WAS COMPLETELY MANGLED.
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SO IT SOUNDS
LIKE HER OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCE
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WAS VERY UNIQUE.
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AND IT SOUNDS LIKE HER
AND HER SISTER
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WERE ABLE TO MAKE
SOME SORT OF CONNECTION.
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IT SAYS HER SISTER, CHERYL,
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HAD A VISION OF HER IN HEAVEN
WHILE SHE WAS DEAD.
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LET'S SEE
IF THOSE VISIONS MATCH UP.
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YEAH.
YEAH, I'LL FIND OUT.
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THAT'S ACTUALLY ONE
OF THE MORE UNIQUE ASPECTS
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OF THIS CASE.
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-ALL RIGHT.
-ALL RIGHT.
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-LET'S DO IT.
-YEP.
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Jesse: MY INVESTIGATION
BRINGS ME TO PEORIA, ARIZONA,
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A SUBURB OF PHOENIX
NOT FAR FROM WHERE,
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BACK IN MARCH 2000, TAX
ACCOUNTANT VALERIE PATERS' LIFE
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WAS CHANGED FOREVER
BY A HORRIFIC CAR CRASH.
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AND SHE WAS SENT
ON AN EXTRAORDINARY JOURNEY
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TO THE AFTERLIFE.
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-VALERIE.
-HI, JESSE.
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-HI.
-IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU.
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NICE TO MEET YOU TOO.
IT'S A PLEASURE.
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I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU DIED
BACK IN 2000.
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-YES, I DID.
-TAKE ME BACK
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TO THE DAY OF YOUR ACCIDENT.
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WELL, I WAS WORKING.
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AND THEN,
I PICKED UP MY DAUGHTER
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AND GOT ON THE FREEWAY.
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Valerie: I PICKED UP
MY DAUGHTER, ASHLEY.
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HI!
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-HI, HONEY.
-HOW ARE YOU?
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GOOD.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
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-MWAH.
-GOOD.
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Valerie: AND ASHLEY,
SHE LOVED THIS SONG.
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IT WAS ACTUALLY
A CHRISTMAS SONG.
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AND SHE WOULD PUT IT ON,
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AND SHE'D SING TO THE TOP
OF HER LUNGS.
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AND I --
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I NOTICED A FEW SNOWFLAKES.
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AND I WANTED TO GET HOME.
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I THINK THAT'S KIND OF
THE LAST THING I REMEMBER.
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[ HORN BLARES ]
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[ GLASS SHATTERS ]
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[ SIRENS WAILING ]
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A SEMI TRUCK HIT ME,
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AND I WAS INVOLVED
IN A 17-CAR PILEUP.
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ASHLEY'S SEAT BELT SNAPPED,
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AND SHE WAS THROWN FROM THE CAR.
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MIRACULOUSLY, SHE ONLY
SUSTAINED MINOR INJURIES.
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Jesse:
ASHLEY'S SMALL HIP FRACTURE
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AND RUPTURED BLADDER
WERE NOT A FATAL THREAT.
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BUT VALERIE
WOULDN'T BE SO LUCKY.
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Valerie:
I HAD MY SEAT BELT ON.
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AND WHEN SHE GOT THROWN OUT,
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IT MADE ROOM
FOR ME TO GO DOWN INTO THE SEAT.
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OTHERWISE, WE BOTH WOULD'VE BEEN
DECAPITATED.
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Jesse: VALERIE HAD SUFFERED
PUNCTURED LUNGS,
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A LACERATED LIVER,
MULTIPLE FACIAL FRACTURES,
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AND SUSTAINED TWO SEVERE STROKES
WHILE UNCONSCIOUS.
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THE IMPACT SEVERED THE ARTERIES
IN HER NECK,
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BROKE ALL OF THE RIBS
ON HER RIGHT SIDE
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AND PUSHED HER INTERNAL ORGANS
UP INTO HER CHEST CAVITY.
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Valerie: THE FIREFIGHTER
THAT WAS ASSIGNED TO ME
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CLIMBED INTO THE WRECKAGE.
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ALL RIGHT.
I.V. SECURED.
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AND HE STAYED WITH ME.
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AND HE WOULD TELL ME,
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"WE'RE GONNA GET YOU OUT.
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IT'S GONNA BE OKAY."
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STAY WITH US, VALERIE.
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SQUEEZE MY HAND IF YOU CAN.
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BUT I'M NOT SURE
HOW HE KNEW MY NAME.
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Jesse: FIREMAN DAVE DOBBS WAS
ONE OF THE FIRST RESPONDERS
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ON THE SCENE THAT NIGHT.
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IN ALL HIS YEARS
WITNESSING WRECKAGE,
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THIS WAS ONE OF THE WORST.
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David: WHEN I FIRST
LOOKED AT THE VEHICLE,
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I LOOK AT IT, AND I GO,
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"THERE IS NO WAY THAT SOMEONE
COULD SURVIVE THIS ACCIDENT."
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YOU EXPECT THIS TO GO FATAL,
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YEAH, ALMOST EVERY TIME
YOU SEE A WRECK LIKE THIS.
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AS I WAS WALKING UP
TO THE SCENE,
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I NOTICED ON THE GROUND
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THAT THERE WAS A CASSETTE WITH
THE NAME OF MY CHURCH ON IT.
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AND AT THAT POINT,
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IT CAME ACROSS TO ME
THAT THERE'S SOMEONE
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I COULD VERY WELL KNOW INVOLVED
IN THIS ACCIDENT.
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FROM THE DRIVER'S SIDE,
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ALL I HAD IS A VIEW
OF THEIR LEGS.
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AT THE TIME,
I DIDN'T KNOW MALE, FEMALE.
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IT WAS JUST A PAIR OF LEGS.
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Man: WE HAVE A YOUNG FEMALE,
FULL TRAUMA CODE.
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I ASKED, UH,
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THE MEDIC ON THE OTHER SIDE
OF THE VEHICLE, UH,
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FOR SOME DESCRIPTION
OF WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE.
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AND HE DESCRIBED VALERIE
TO A "T."
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Jesse: DAVE IMMEDIATELY KNEW IT
WAS THE VALERIE FROM HIS CHURCH.
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HE WAS ASSESSING THE DAMAGE
AND CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LONG
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-VALERIE WOULD BE TRAPPED.
-LET'S GET A C-COLLAR IN HERE.
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THERE'S KIND
OF A GOLDEN HOUR RULE.
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WHENEVER YOU'RE INVOLVED IN A --
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IN A SERIOUS TRAUMA,
WITHIN THAT FIRST HOUR,
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YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT PERSON
INTO THE HOSPITAL.
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AND I BELIEVE WE HAD VALERIE
ON SCENE OVER AN HOUR
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BEFORE WE COULD EVEN GET ACCESS
TO HER.
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VALERIE!
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STAY WITH US, VALERIE.
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WE ALMOST GOT YOU OUT.
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STAY AWAKE FOR US.
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Valerie: I TRIED TO LISTEN
TO WHAT HE WAS SAYING.
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BUT THEN, I WOULD JUST PASS OUT.
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WE'LL GET YOU OUT OF HERE,
VALERIE.
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STAY WITH US.
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WHEN I PASSED OUT,
I WAS IN THIS ROOM.
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AND I ALWAYS CALL
IT A WAITING ROOM 'CAUSE
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IT WAS A VERY PEACEFUL PLACE.
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EVERYTHING WAS VERY BRIGHT.
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AND I WAS JUST SITTING THERE,
WAITING.
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AND THEN, I'D GO BACK.
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VALERIE, OPEN YOUR EYES.
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WAS IT EVERY TIME
YOU LOST CONSCIOUSNESS,
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-YOU WENT TO THIS WAITING ROOM?
-I WENT TO THIS WAITING ROOM.
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SO YOU WERE BACK AND FORTH?
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WERE YOU FULLY ALERT
AT THAT TIME?
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WERE YOU CONSCIOUS?
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I WAS CONSCIOUS.
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BUT I WAS DRIFTING IN AND OUT.
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I KNEW I WAS DYING.
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I COULD FEEL IT.
I WAS GETTING WEAKER AND WEAKER.
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THERE'S THAT CROSS
OVER THERE.
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David: BY THE TIME WE FINALLY
HAD VALERIE EXTRICATED
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AND WE WERE MOVING HER
TO THE AMBULANCE,
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I HONESTLY DIDN'T THINK
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THERE WAS A CHANCE
SHE WAS GONNA MAKE IT.
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I THOUGHT
THERE WAS JUST TOO MUCH DAMAGE,
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AND TOO MUCH TIME HAD GONE BY.
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-COMING IN, GUYS.
-OKAY, GO!
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Valerie: WHEN THEY GOT ME
INTO THE AMBULANCE,
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THAT'S WHEN I DIED.
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MY HEART HAD STOPPED...
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SHE'S FLATLINING.
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...AND THEY WERE TRYING
TO GET IT BEATING AGAIN.
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Jesse: VALERIE WAS DEAD.
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THE PARAMEDICS PERFORMED CPR
FOR THE DURATION
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OF THE AMBULANCE TRIP
TO THE HOSPITAL.
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ONCE THEY ARRIVED,
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THERE WAS NOTHING
THE DOCTORS COULD DO.
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Valerie:
FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD,
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THEY PUT ME ON LIFE SUPPORT
TO PRESERVE MY ORGANS
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FOR POSSIBLE DONATION.
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Rodger: AS JESSE DIGS DEEPER
INTO VALERIE'S CASE,
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I'M OUTSIDE OF DALLAS, TEXAS,
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DEEP IN RODEO COUNTRY,
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WHERE 56-YEAR-OLD COWBOY,
FATHER, AND HUSBAND
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FREDDY VEST
SOMEHOW CHEATED CERTAIN DEATH
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BEFORE SOMETHING
BROUGHT HIM BACK.
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-FREDDY.
-RODGER.
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-HOW ARE YOU DOIN'?
-GREAT.
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-THANKS FOR MEETING ME HERE.
-SURE.
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TAKE ME BACK TO THAT DAY.
WHAT HAPPENED?
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IT WAS JULY --
JULY THE 26th.
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IT WAS HOT --
108 DEGREES IN THE SHADE.
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WE WERE HAVING A ROPING,
JUST LIKE WE'RE HAVING TODAY.
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Freddy:
EVERYTHING WAS GOING GREAT.
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I FELT GOOD.
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UH, I DREW GOOD.
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THIS WAS A FOUR-HEAD ROPING,
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WHICH MEANT YOU
ROPED FOUR INDIVIDUAL CALVES.
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YOU KNOW, WITH THE TEMPERATURE
THAT WE HAD THAT DAY,
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108, I WAS TIRED.
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I WAS HOT.
IT WAS HARD TO GET A BREATH.
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BUT I FELT GOOD
OTHER THAN THAT.
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THIRD CALF, I KNEW HE WAS GONNA
BE TOUGH FOR ME TO ROPE.
227
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BUT WE HAD A LITTLE BETTER TIME
WITH HIM.
228
00:09:24,067 --> 00:09:27,633
AND, UH,
WE STILL GOT HIM TIED DOWN.
229
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AND I THOUGHT, "YOU KNOW,
230
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I'VE GOT A CHANCE
TO WIN ONE HERE."
231
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AFTER I'D ROPED MY THIRD CALF,
232
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I REMOUNTED MY HORSE
AND WAS RIDING OUT OF THE ARENA.
233
00:09:36,333 --> 00:09:39,733
MY FRIEND EDDY AND I
EXCHANGED WORDS ABOUT A CALF
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THAT I HAD ROPED IN A EVENT
OF MINE THAT HE WAS THE JUDGE.
235
00:09:42,367 --> 00:09:44,600
WE TOOK A LITTLE VERBAL SPAT.
236
00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,100
AND I JUST POINTED A FINGER
AT HIM.
237
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I SAID, "YOU KNOW, EDDY..."
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I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS.
239
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AND I RODE OFF.
240
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FOURTH CALF, I WAS GETTING READY
TO GO INTO THE ROPING BOX.
241
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I WAS SITTING THERE.
242
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THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN
I WAS VISITING WITH,
243
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AND WE WERE JUST, UH,
244
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HAVING A GOOD TIME
LAUGHING AND TALKING.
245
00:10:02,033 --> 00:10:04,600
AND RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
OF THAT CONVERSATION,
246
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RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
OF A SENTENCE...
247
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...I JUST FELL OFF MY HORSE.
248
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FREDDY!
249
00:10:12,333 --> 00:10:14,767
I WAS DEAD
BEFORE I HIT THE GROUND.
250
00:10:14,767 --> 00:10:16,500
Rodger:
ACCORDING TO THE MEDICAL REPORT,
251
00:10:16,500 --> 00:10:19,333
FREDDY SUFFERED A SUDDEN,
MASSIVE HEART ATTACK
252
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THAT INSTANTLY CUT OFF OXYGEN
TO THE BRAIN
253
00:10:21,933 --> 00:10:25,733
AND LEFT HIM WITH NO VITAL SIGNS
AND NO PULSE.
254
00:10:25,733 --> 00:10:28,967
DOCTORS LATER CONCLUDED THAT IT
WAS RELATED TO A HEART DEFECT
255
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HE HAD BEEN BORN WITH KNOWN
AS ATRIAL SEPTUM DEFECT,
256
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OR HOLE IN THE HEART.
257
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COME ON, FREDDY.
BREATHE.
258
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TYPICALLY, IF YOU HAVE A HOLE
IN YOUR HEART,
259
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YOU DON'T LIVE
OUT OF YOUR 20s.
260
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I MADE IT TO 56.
261
00:10:41,533 --> 00:10:42,667
AND YOU HAD NO IDEA.
262
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ABSOLUTELY NONE.
263
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PERFECTLY HEALTHY.
264
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PERFECTLY HEALTHY.
265
00:10:46,233 --> 00:10:47,067
YOU DIE.
266
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I DIE.
267
00:10:48,233 --> 00:10:50,500
AND IT WASN'T A NEAR-DEATH
EXPERIENCE.
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COME ON, FREDDY!
COME ON! BREATHE!
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I WAS GRAVEYARD DEAD.
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I WAS GONE.
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BREATHE!
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Jesse: MARCH 20, 2000.
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A CALM NIGHT
IN THE ARIZONA DESERT
274
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IS INTERRUPTED
WHEN 41-YEAR-OLD TAX ACCOUNTANT
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VALERIE PATERS IS PART
OF A HORRIFIC MULTI-CAR PILEUP.
276
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[ HORN BLARES ]
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AFTER LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS
REPEATEDLY
278
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DURING A TWO-HOUR ORDEAL
TO EXTRACT HER CRUSHED BODY,
279
00:11:18,867 --> 00:11:20,600
SHE DIED IN THE AMBULANCE.
280
00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,067
SHE'S FLATLINING.
281
00:11:22,067 --> 00:11:25,367
BUT VALERIE HAD ALREADY BEEN
CROSSING INTO THE AFTERLIFE,
282
00:11:25,367 --> 00:11:28,267
SEEING HERSELF
IN A BRIGHTLY LIT WAITING ROOM
283
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EACH TIME SHE PASSED OUT.
284
00:11:31,733 --> 00:11:33,200
YOU FEEL
WEAKER AND WEAKER,
285
00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,433
AND YOU'VE BEEN GOING
TO THIS WAITING ROOM AREA.
286
00:11:35,433 --> 00:11:37,833
AND SO THEN WHAT HAPPENS?
287
00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:40,600
THEN, THE NEXT THING
I KNEW,
288
00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,533
I WAS PULLING MYSELF UP
OFF THE FLOOR.
289
00:11:43,533 --> 00:11:46,700
Valerie: IT WAS LIKE I STEP
INTO THIS LIGHT
290
00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:48,067
WHERE IT WAS BLINDING.
291
00:11:48,067 --> 00:11:53,800
BUT THEN, EVERYTHING
BEGAN TO COME INTO FOCUS.
292
00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,600
I STOOD UP,
AND I TOOK A DEEP BREATH.
293
00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,933
AND IT WAS LIKE...
294
00:11:57,933 --> 00:11:58,733
[ GASPS ]
295
00:11:58,733 --> 00:11:59,733
IT FELT SO GOOD.
296
00:11:59,733 --> 00:12:01,633
THERE WAS NO PAIN.
297
00:12:01,633 --> 00:12:03,400
THERE WAS PEACE.
298
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,533
THERE WAS LOVE.
299
00:12:05,533 --> 00:12:09,200
I SAW MYSELF,
AND IT WAS THE REAL ME.
300
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:13,433
I TURNED AROUND,
AND THERE WAS JESUS.
301
00:12:13,433 --> 00:12:15,367
SO YOU SEE JESUS
IN THE DISTANCE.
302
00:12:15,367 --> 00:12:16,433
-MM-HMM.
-SO WHAT'D YOU DO?
303
00:12:16,433 --> 00:12:18,667
I RAN UP TO HIM.
304
00:12:18,667 --> 00:12:21,667
HE WAS IN A WHITE ROBE.
305
00:12:21,667 --> 00:12:24,733
IN HIS EYES,
THERE WAS SUCH A FIERCENESS.
306
00:12:24,733 --> 00:12:28,567
THERE WAS A SWEETNESS TO HIM,
AN INNOCENCE.
307
00:12:28,567 --> 00:12:30,200
I BEGAN TO TOUCH HIS FACE.
308
00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,667
AND HE SMILED AT ME.
309
00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:34,867
HE LOVED THAT
I WAS JUST TOUCHING HIM.
310
00:12:34,867 --> 00:12:40,333
AND I REALIZED THAT HE NEVER
DREW BACK FROM ME.
311
00:12:40,333 --> 00:12:42,233
THERE WERE TIMES
THAT I SPOKE TO HIM.
312
00:12:42,233 --> 00:12:44,833
BUT IT WAS MOSTLY IN THOUGHT.
313
00:12:44,833 --> 00:12:48,367
IT WAS KIND
OF A TELEPATHIC COMMUNICATION.
314
00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:51,667
HE KNEW MY THOUGHTS,
AND I KNEW HIS.
315
00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:54,267
HE SAID, "VALERIE."
316
00:12:54,267 --> 00:12:55,833
WHEN HE SAID MY NAME,
317
00:12:55,833 --> 00:12:57,800
IT THREW ME BACK.
318
00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,500
I MEAN,
I KNEW THAT HE KNEW THAT.
319
00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,733
BUT HE HAD SAID MY NAME.
320
00:13:01,733 --> 00:13:05,267
IT WAS LIKE MY NAME
RANG THROUGH HEAVEN.
321
00:13:05,267 --> 00:13:07,333
AND SO THE NEXT THING I KNEW,
322
00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:10,067
JESUS LED ME DOWN A PATH.
323
00:13:10,067 --> 00:13:14,300
AS WE WALKED DOWN THE PATH,
I SAW MY DECEASED GRANDFATHER.
324
00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:18,100
HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS
IN HIS 30s OR EARLY 40s.
325
00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:22,233
HE WAS LAUGHING
WHILE WATCHING US.
326
00:13:22,233 --> 00:13:24,600
THERE WAS A GARDEN-LIKE SETTING
THAT I WAS IN.
327
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,500
IT WAS TREES AND GRASS
AND FLOWERS.
328
00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:30,700
AND AS WE WALKED DOWN THE PATH,
329
00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:33,467
THEY ALL KIND OF FOLLOWED HIM.
330
00:13:33,467 --> 00:13:35,900
THERE WERE COLORS
I'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.
331
00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:39,467
AND EVERYTHING WAS ALIVE.
332
00:13:39,467 --> 00:13:41,533
JESUS TOUCHED MY HEAD,
333
00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:44,500
AND HE BEGAN TO POUR THIS OIL
ON ME.
334
00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,300
HE WAS ANOINTING ME.
335
00:13:47,300 --> 00:13:50,167
AND IT WAS THICK,
KIND OF LIKE HONEY.
336
00:13:50,167 --> 00:13:55,600
IT JUST SLOWLY JUST PENETRATED
EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING.
337
00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,567
AND BY THE TIME IT HIT MY FEET,
338
00:13:57,567 --> 00:14:00,367
I WAS FINALLY TRULY AT PEACE.
339
00:14:00,367 --> 00:14:02,100
THAT'S INCREDIBLE.
340
00:14:02,100 --> 00:14:04,833
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYBODY
BEING ANOINTED IN HEAVEN.
341
00:14:04,833 --> 00:14:07,600
TYPICALLY, PEOPLE ARE
ANOINTED WHILE THEY'RE ALIVE.
342
00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,933
SO WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
343
00:14:08,933 --> 00:14:11,500
THE NEXT THING I KNEW,
I WAS SWIMMING.
344
00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,400
THE WATER
WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR, BLUE.
345
00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,500
AND THEN, WHEN I BEGAN TO SWIM,
346
00:14:16,500 --> 00:14:20,833
I NOTICED THAT I WAS ABLE
TO BREATHE UNDERWATER.
347
00:14:20,833 --> 00:14:22,567
AND IT WAS SO NATURAL.
348
00:14:22,567 --> 00:14:24,467
I WAS UNDER THE WATER
FOR A LONG TIME.
349
00:14:24,467 --> 00:14:26,433
AND I DIDN'T HAVE TO COME UP
FOR AIR.
350
00:14:26,433 --> 00:14:30,333
AND I THOUGHT, "THERE ARE
NO LIMITS AT ALL."
351
00:14:30,333 --> 00:14:33,233
THEN, JESUS
TOOK ME TO A MOUNTAIN.
352
00:14:33,233 --> 00:14:36,400
I COULD SEE GOD'S PRESENCE
AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN.
353
00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,633
AND I HEARD GOD'S VOICE.
354
00:14:37,633 --> 00:14:39,633
AND IT SOUNDED LIKE THUNDER.
355
00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:46,067
I FELT VERY SECURE, VERY SAFE,
AND VERY LOVED.
356
00:14:46,067 --> 00:14:49,433
BUT I SENSED MY TIME
WAS COMING TO AN END.
357
00:14:49,433 --> 00:14:52,733
AND I THOUGHT, "SURELY,
HE WON'T SEND ME BACK."
358
00:14:52,733 --> 00:14:55,067
I WAS TRYING TO WIN HIM OVER,
359
00:14:55,067 --> 00:14:58,833
TO DO ANYTHING
SO HE WOULDN'T SEND ME BACK.
360
00:14:58,833 --> 00:15:00,700
I COULD SEE THE SMIRK
ON HIS FACE
361
00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:02,633
BECAUSE HE KNEW
WHAT I WAS DOING.
362
00:15:02,633 --> 00:15:06,633
THEN, HE SAID, "YOU HAVEN'T
FULFILLED YOUR PURPOSE YET."
363
00:15:06,633 --> 00:15:10,233
AND I REALIZED THAT
I COULDN'T BE SELFISH.
364
00:15:10,233 --> 00:15:11,533
AND I TOLD HIM...
365
00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:14,233
I'LL DO
WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO.
366
00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:16,700
JESUS PUT ME INTO A DEEP SLEEP.
367
00:15:19,067 --> 00:15:21,067
I SAW MYSELF SLEEPING.
368
00:15:21,067 --> 00:15:25,233
AND THEN, WHEN I HIT MY BODY,
IT WAS LIKE, "UGH."
369
00:15:25,233 --> 00:15:27,400
I WAS IN PAIN.
370
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,533
I WAS DISORIENTED.
371
00:15:28,533 --> 00:15:31,567
I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE I WAS.
372
00:15:31,567 --> 00:15:36,267
IT FELT LIKE I HAD BEEN THERE
FOR 3,000 YEARS.
373
00:15:36,267 --> 00:15:38,067
HOW'D YOU FEEL
BEING BACK?
374
00:15:38,067 --> 00:15:39,133
I WAS NOT HAPPY.
375
00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:42,067
I WENT FROM PEACE
TO TRAUMA.
376
00:15:42,067 --> 00:15:44,900
WERE YOU AWARE OF ANYBODY
BACK HERE ON EARTH
377
00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:48,067
WHO WAS FIGHTING OR DOING
WHATEVER THEY COULD TO HELP YOU
378
00:15:48,067 --> 00:15:49,400
BE RAISED FROM THE DEAD?
379
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:50,567
YES.
380
00:15:50,567 --> 00:15:52,667
THERE WAS A LOT
OF PRAYER GOING ON FOR ME.
381
00:15:52,667 --> 00:15:53,967
MM-HMM.
382
00:15:53,967 --> 00:15:56,900
BUT MY SISTER WAS, LIKE,
THE POINT PERSON.
383
00:15:56,900 --> 00:15:59,267
HER AND I ARE VERY CLOSE.
384
00:15:59,267 --> 00:16:02,133
Jesse: VALERIE'S JOURNEY
TO THE AFTERLIFE AND BACK
385
00:16:02,133 --> 00:16:04,867
IS EVEN MORE INCREDIBLE
THAN I HAD THOUGHT.
386
00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:07,800
BUT TO UNDERSTAND HOW SHE
WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD,
387
00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,833
I NEED TO FIND
WHAT WAS HAPPENING
388
00:16:09,833 --> 00:16:11,600
BACK IN THE REALM OF THE LIVING
389
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,633
AND THE ROLE VALERIE'S SISTER,
CHERYL,
390
00:16:13,633 --> 00:16:15,400
PLAYED IN HER RESURRECTION.
391
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:16,733
CHERYL.
392
00:16:16,733 --> 00:16:18,300
-HI, JESS.
-HI.
393
00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:19,967
-NICE TO MEET YOU.
-NICE TO MEET YOU, TOO.
394
00:16:19,967 --> 00:16:22,533
I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU
PLAYED AN INSTRUMENTAL ROLE
395
00:16:22,533 --> 00:16:24,567
IN YOUR SISTER, VALERIE,
HER RESURRECTION.
396
00:16:24,567 --> 00:16:25,833
YES.
397
00:16:25,833 --> 00:16:29,167
TAKE ME BACK TO THE DAY
OF THAT HORRIFIC CRASH.
398
00:16:29,167 --> 00:16:30,267
HOW DID IT START FOR YOU?
399
00:16:30,267 --> 00:16:32,067
WELL, I HAD A DREAM.
400
00:16:34,100 --> 00:16:36,067
Cheryl:
I WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD,
401
00:16:36,067 --> 00:16:38,400
AND I CAME UPON THIS ACCIDENT.
402
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,367
I COULDN'T TELL
WHAT IT WAS AT FIRST.
403
00:16:41,367 --> 00:16:43,067
BUT WHEN I GOT CLOSER,
404
00:16:43,067 --> 00:16:45,367
I COULD SEE
THAT IT WAS A MASSIVE CAR WRECK
405
00:16:45,367 --> 00:16:48,500
INVOLVING SEMI TRUCKS.
406
00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:52,733
I WASN'T SURPRISED
'CAUSE I'VE HAD VISIONS BEFORE.
407
00:16:52,733 --> 00:16:55,767
BUT THAT DREAM SEEMED VERY REAL.
408
00:16:55,767 --> 00:16:57,067
[ GASPING ]
409
00:16:57,067 --> 00:16:59,300
AND I JUST BEGIN TO PRAY.
410
00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:01,500
[ PRAYING INDISTINCTLY ]
411
00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:02,600
I FELT DREAD.
412
00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,500
SO THEN,
I CALLED VALERIE'S PHONE NUMBER,
413
00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,733
AND SHE DIDN'T ANSWER.
414
00:17:07,733 --> 00:17:10,100
THEN, I TURNED ON THE TELEVISION
TO SEE
415
00:17:10,100 --> 00:17:11,833
WHAT THE NEWS REPORTS WERE.
416
00:17:11,833 --> 00:17:15,300
AND THEY SAID THAT THERE HAD
BEEN A MULTI-PILEUP ACCIDENT
417
00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:16,433
ON I-40.
418
00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:19,233
HALF HOUR LATER,
I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL
419
00:17:19,233 --> 00:17:22,067
FROM DAVE DOBBS,
WHO WAS A FIREFIGHTER.
420
00:17:22,067 --> 00:17:25,633
AND I KNEW THEN THAT VALERIE
WAS INVOLVED IN THAT ACCIDENT.
421
00:17:25,633 --> 00:17:27,900
HE SAID
THAT SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE
422
00:17:27,900 --> 00:17:30,333
AND THAT THERE WAS NO BRAIN
ACTIVITY.
423
00:17:30,333 --> 00:17:33,967
THEY HAD DECLARED HER DEAD.
424
00:17:33,967 --> 00:17:35,567
I BEGAN TO PRAY.
425
00:17:35,567 --> 00:17:37,067
WHEN I BEGAN TO PRAY,
426
00:17:37,067 --> 00:17:38,733
I HEARD THE LORD SAY TO ME,
427
00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:39,933
"SHE'S WITH ME,
428
00:17:39,933 --> 00:17:41,833
AND SHE DOESN'T
WANT TO COME BACK.
429
00:17:41,833 --> 00:17:44,767
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT
TO BRING HER BACK."
430
00:17:51,833 --> 00:17:53,867
Rodger:
RODEO COWBOY FREDDY VEST
431
00:17:53,867 --> 00:17:56,767
DIED INSTANTLY WHEN HIS HEART
STOPPED RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE
432
00:17:56,767 --> 00:17:59,167
OF A ROPING COMPETITION.
433
00:17:59,167 --> 00:18:04,067
WITH THE NEAREST MEDICAL HELP
ALMOST 45 MINUTES AWAY,
434
00:18:04,067 --> 00:18:06,367
HIS FRIENDS
STRUGGLED TO REVIVE HIM.
435
00:18:06,367 --> 00:18:08,933
BUT FREDDY
HAD ALREADY PASSED ON.
436
00:18:10,967 --> 00:18:13,967
YOU'RE LAYING THERE DEAD.
437
00:18:13,967 --> 00:18:16,533
DID YOU FEEL
YOURSELF LEAVE YOUR BODY?
438
00:18:16,533 --> 00:18:17,733
WHAT WAS GOING ON?
439
00:18:17,733 --> 00:18:21,533
BEFORE I HIT THE GROUND,
I WAS IN HEAVEN.
440
00:18:21,533 --> 00:18:24,133
Freddy: I DON'T REMEMBER
FALLING OFF MY HORSE.
441
00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:26,900
I JUST REMEMBER LOOKING
OUT INTO THE ARENA.
442
00:18:26,900 --> 00:18:29,700
AND THEN, I WAS OVERCOME
BY COMPLETE DARKNESS.
443
00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:31,467
FREDDY!
444
00:18:35,933 --> 00:18:40,767
BUT THERE WASN'T A FEAR
OF THIS DARKNESS.
445
00:18:40,767 --> 00:18:42,167
I DIDN'T FEEL ALONE.
446
00:18:42,167 --> 00:18:44,833
I DIDN'T FEEL AFRAID.
447
00:18:44,833 --> 00:18:48,800
THERE WAS NO SENSATION
OF DYING OR ANYTHING.
448
00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,067
EVEN THOUGH I WAS DEAD,
449
00:18:50,067 --> 00:18:52,467
I WAS MORE ALIVE
THAN I HAD EVER BEEN.
450
00:18:52,467 --> 00:18:53,733
COME ON, FREDDY.
451
00:18:53,733 --> 00:18:55,367
MY MIND AND MY BODY...
452
00:18:55,367 --> 00:18:56,500
COME ON, FREDDY,
BREATHE!
453
00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,500
...STAYED IN THAT RODEO DIRT
RIGHT THERE.
454
00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:01,867
IT WAS MY SPIRIT
THAT WENT TO HEAVEN.
455
00:19:01,867 --> 00:19:05,833
AND MY SPIRIT
COMMUNICATED WITH JESUS.
456
00:19:05,833 --> 00:19:11,067
ONCE WITH HIM,
ONCE IN HIS PRESENCE, THIS EARTH
457
00:19:11,067 --> 00:19:14,600
AND THE HUMAN THOUGHTS
OF EVERYTHING HERE ARE GONE.
458
00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,967
I DIDN'T FEEL LIKE
I WAS SEPARATE FROM HIM.
459
00:19:17,967 --> 00:19:22,233
I FELT LIKE I WAS PART OF HIM
460
00:19:22,233 --> 00:19:24,300
AND THAT HE WAS PART OF ME.
461
00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:25,600
IT WAS JUST LIKE
462
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,733
IF HE HAD WRAPPED HIS ARMS
AROUND ME AND DREW ME IN.
463
00:19:28,733 --> 00:19:32,933
HE WAS HOLDING ME
JUST LIKE A MOTHER HOLDS A BABY.
464
00:19:32,933 --> 00:19:35,700
IT WAS JUST TOTAL ACCEPTANCE.
465
00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:39,833
IT WAS THE MOST LOVING
FEELING THAT I'VE EVER HAD.
466
00:19:39,833 --> 00:19:43,567
JESUS AND I COMMUNICATED
WITHOUT SAYING A WORD.
467
00:19:43,567 --> 00:19:45,700
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
TALK ABOUT TELEPATHY.
468
00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:47,600
IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
469
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,833
I FELT AND KNEW EXACTLY
WHAT HE WANTED ME TO KNOW.
470
00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:57,633
AND HE KNEW EXACTLY
WHAT I WANTED HIM TO KNOW.
471
00:19:57,633 --> 00:20:00,100
I FELT THE PRESENCE
OF OTHERS THERE.
472
00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:01,267
BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY.
473
00:20:01,267 --> 00:20:03,733
I DIDN'T CONVERSE
WITH ANYONE ELSE THERE.
474
00:20:03,733 --> 00:20:07,667
MY TOTAL TIME
THERE WAS JUST JESUS AND I.
475
00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:13,100
I HAD NO THOUGHT OR MEMORY
OF MY FAMILY THAT WAS HERE,
476
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,400
WHICH IF I WAS GONNA
THINK OF ANYTHING,
477
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,733
I'D BE THINKING
OF MY KIDS, MY WIFE.
478
00:20:17,733 --> 00:20:21,533
BUT THERE WAS NO THOUGHT
OF THAT.
479
00:20:21,533 --> 00:20:24,567
IT WAS ONLY JOY AND HAPPINESS.
480
00:20:24,567 --> 00:20:27,433
SO HERE YOU WERE
IN THE AFTERLIFE.
481
00:20:27,433 --> 00:20:30,733
BUT IT'S NOT THIS FIVE-SENSE
REALITY WE HAVE HERE ON EARTH.
482
00:20:30,733 --> 00:20:34,767
WHEN YOU DIE, YOUR SPIRIT
GOES TO HEAVEN, NOT YOUR BODY.
483
00:20:34,767 --> 00:20:36,733
YOU DON'T HAVE A MOUTH
TO SPEAK WITH
484
00:20:36,733 --> 00:20:38,500
OR EARS TO HEAR
OR EYES TO SEE.
485
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:39,900
IT'S YOUR SPIRIT
THAT'S THERE.
486
00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,667
SO YOU NEVER REALLY GOT
TO SEE ANYTHING IN HEAVEN?
487
00:20:42,667 --> 00:20:44,900
I GOT TO SEE ONE THING
IN HEAVEN.
488
00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,667
AND IT WAS AMAZING.
489
00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:52,433
AFTER I FELL FROM MY HORSE,
490
00:20:52,433 --> 00:20:54,633
THE COWBOYS IN THE ARENA
GOT ON A KNEE.
491
00:20:54,633 --> 00:20:58,833
THEY TOOK OFF THEIR HATS,
AND THEY BEGAN TO PRAY.
492
00:20:58,833 --> 00:21:01,433
THE COWBOYS AND THEIR WIVES
AND THEIR CHILDREN,
493
00:21:01,433 --> 00:21:05,067
ALL THESE FOLKS,
UH, WERE PRAYIN'.
494
00:21:05,067 --> 00:21:07,400
AT THAT POINT, GOD
ALLOWED ME TO SEE THE PRAYERS
495
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,600
THAT WERE COMING UP FOR ME.
496
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:14,700
IT STARTED OUT
WITH ONE SINGLE BOLT OF LIGHT.
497
00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:18,533
IT WAS LIKE A LIGHTNING BOLT,
LIKE IN A THUNDERSTORM.
498
00:21:18,533 --> 00:21:19,967
IT STARTED FROM DOWN BELOW,
499
00:21:19,967 --> 00:21:22,600
AND IT CAME ALL THE WAY
UP INTO GOD'S PRESENCE.
500
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,367
AND THEN,
THERE WAS TWO AND THREE OR FIVE.
501
00:21:25,367 --> 00:21:27,233
THERE WAS 10.
THERE WAS 100.
502
00:21:27,233 --> 00:21:28,833
AND THEN, THERE WAS 1,000.
503
00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:30,667
AND ONCE THERE WERE THAT MANY,
504
00:21:30,667 --> 00:21:34,200
THEY EXPLODED INTO THE BRIGHTEST
LIGHT YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE.
505
00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:41,100
AND THAT'S WHEN GOD
SENT ME BACK.
506
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:42,400
Woman: MR. VEST.
507
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,767
MR. VEST, YOU'RE OKAY.
YOU'RE OKAY.
508
00:21:44,767 --> 00:21:47,733
ONCE I RE-ENTERED MY BODY,
509
00:21:47,733 --> 00:21:52,700
ALL THE SENSATIONS OF BEING
A HUMAN AGAIN CAME BACK.
510
00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:53,967
I FELT PAIN.
511
00:21:53,967 --> 00:21:55,767
I FELT ANGUISH.
512
00:21:55,767 --> 00:21:58,767
I WAS A LITTLE BIT FRIGHTENED
ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON.
513
00:21:58,767 --> 00:22:00,633
I WAS STRUGGLING
TRYING TO GET UP.
514
00:22:00,633 --> 00:22:02,267
I WAS TIED DOWN TO A BED.
515
00:22:02,267 --> 00:22:05,067
I HAD AN I.V. IN MY NECK
AND ONE IN MY HAND.
516
00:22:05,067 --> 00:22:07,200
I HAD A TUBE DOWN MY THROAT.
517
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,067
MR. VEST, YOU'RE OKAY.
YOU'RE OKAY.
518
00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:14,467
I HEARD THE NURSE'S VOICE
SAY, "MR. VEST, YOU'RE OKAY."
519
00:22:14,467 --> 00:22:15,500
I COULDN'T SPEAK,
520
00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,967
BUT I JUST SHOOK MY HEAD.
521
00:22:16,967 --> 00:22:18,833
I'M NOT OKAY.
522
00:22:18,833 --> 00:22:21,967
Rodger: WHEN FREDDY WOKE UP
AT THE HOSPITAL, HE HAD NO IDEA
523
00:22:21,967 --> 00:22:24,967
THAT PARAMEDICS HAD FINALLY
REVIVED HIS PULSE
524
00:22:24,967 --> 00:22:27,400
NEARLY TWO HOURS
AFTER HE HAD DIED.
525
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,900
BUT ONCE STABILIZED,
526
00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,833
DOCTORS WERE STILL CONVINCED
THE DAMAGE TO FREDDY'S HEART
527
00:22:31,833 --> 00:22:34,533
AND BRAIN WAS IRREVERSIBLE.
528
00:22:34,533 --> 00:22:36,167
THEY HAD REPAIRED THE HEART
529
00:22:36,167 --> 00:22:38,333
AS MUCH
AS THEY COULD AT THAT POINT.
530
00:22:38,333 --> 00:22:39,533
IT WAS STILL FLUTTERING.
531
00:22:39,533 --> 00:22:42,967
I STILL DIDN'T HAVE A GOOD,
SOLID HEARTBEAT.
532
00:22:42,967 --> 00:22:48,233
AT THAT POINT, I KNEW
I WAS NOT IN THE BEST OF SHAPE.
533
00:22:48,233 --> 00:22:49,567
MY FAMILY CAME IN.
534
00:22:49,567 --> 00:22:51,967
AND THEY ALL CAME IN TOGETHER.
535
00:22:51,967 --> 00:22:53,167
HIS HAND'S MOVING.
536
00:22:53,167 --> 00:22:54,967
BABY, CAN YOU HEAR US?
537
00:22:54,967 --> 00:22:57,400
OKAY,
SQUEEZE MY HAND AGAIN.
538
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,467
I COULD HEAR THEIR VOICES,
539
00:22:59,467 --> 00:23:02,500
AND I POINTED
TO MY DAUGHTER, LEIGH.
540
00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,167
AND THEN,
I POINTED BACK AT MYSELF.
541
00:23:05,167 --> 00:23:06,733
AND I PUT MY HAND OVER MY HEART.
542
00:23:06,733 --> 00:23:11,300
AND THEN, I POINTED BACK AT HER.
543
00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:13,100
-HE KNOWS YOU'RE HERE, BABY.
-I KNOW.
544
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:17,333
I WAS TELLING HER,
"LEIGH, I LOVE YOU."
545
00:23:17,333 --> 00:23:18,433
I LOVE YOU, FREDDY.
546
00:23:18,433 --> 00:23:19,633
WE LOVE YOU.
547
00:23:19,633 --> 00:23:23,300
-WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
-WE LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
548
00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:25,367
WERE YOU AFRAID OF DEATH
BEFORE?
549
00:23:25,367 --> 00:23:28,767
I WASN'T AFRAID OF DEATH.
I WAS AFRAID OF DYING.
550
00:23:28,767 --> 00:23:30,200
I DON'T WANT TO DIE.
551
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:36,300
I MEAN, BUT I KNOW WHEN I DO,
I'M GONNA BE OKAY.
552
00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:38,067
BACK HERE ON EARTH,
WAS THERE ANYONE
553
00:23:38,067 --> 00:23:41,933
THAT WAS INSTRUMENTAL
IN BRINGING YOU BACK?
554
00:23:41,933 --> 00:23:44,300
I WOULD HAVE TO SAY
EDDY SMITH.
555
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,600
MY GOOD FRIEND EDDY,
NOT ONLY DID HE DO CPR,
556
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,800
BUT HE CONTINUED TO PRAY
AS HE WAS GIVING ME CPR.
557
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,567
AND I WOULD SAY
EDDY IS THE REASON I'M BACK.
558
00:23:56,567 --> 00:24:00,500
Rodger: TO TRULY UNDERSTAND HOW
FREDDY RETURNED FROM THE DEAD,
559
00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:05,067
I NEED TO SPEAK WITH HIS FRIEND
AND FORMER RODEO JUDGE EDDY.
560
00:24:05,067 --> 00:24:08,100
EDDY HAD DISQUALIFIED FREDDY
FROM A RODEO COMPETITION,
561
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,067
AND IT STARTED A FEUD
BETWEEN THE TWO.
562
00:24:11,067 --> 00:24:13,167
REGARDLESS OF THE STATE
OF THEIR FRIENDSHIP,
563
00:24:13,167 --> 00:24:16,633
EDDY SEEMED TO INTERVENE
IN SOME EXTRAORDINARY WAY
564
00:24:16,633 --> 00:24:19,067
TO BRING FREDDY BACK.
565
00:24:19,067 --> 00:24:19,933
EDDY.
566
00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:20,933
THANKS FOR MEETING ME HERE
TODAY.
567
00:24:20,933 --> 00:24:22,200
NICE TO MEET YOU.
568
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,767
FREDDY TOLD ME YOU
WERE INSTRUMENTAL
569
00:24:23,767 --> 00:24:25,267
IN BRINGING HIM BACK
FROM THE DEAD.
570
00:24:25,267 --> 00:24:27,067
I WAS A PART OF THAT.
571
00:24:27,067 --> 00:24:30,167
I'D BEEN A FIREMAN
FOR A LOT OF YEARS IN DALLAS.
572
00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:31,333
AND NOT MANY PEOPLE
573
00:24:31,333 --> 00:24:34,467
COME BACK FROM WHERE FREDDY
WAS THAT DAY.
574
00:24:34,467 --> 00:24:36,733
FREDDY TOLD ME YOU GUYS BUTTED
HEADS A LITTLE BIT THAT DAY.
575
00:24:36,733 --> 00:24:39,733
YES. IT STARTED IN TERRELL,
TEXAS, TWO WEEKS EARLIER.
576
00:24:39,733 --> 00:24:41,767
I FLAGGED FREDDY OUT.
HE WAS MAD AT ME.
577
00:24:41,767 --> 00:24:44,533
AND IT CARRIED
OVER TWO WEEKS LATER.
578
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,367
Woman: 1364 FOR RUSSELL.
579
00:24:46,367 --> 00:24:48,467
Eddy: WE WERE
AT THE ROPING EVENT THAT DAY.
580
00:24:48,467 --> 00:24:50,533
AND FREDDY
AND I EXCHANGED A FEW WORDS.
581
00:24:50,533 --> 00:24:53,533
AFTER HE ROPED A CALF
AND THE HORSE DRUG THE CALF OFF,
582
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,067
HE WAS JUST REAL HOT.
583
00:24:55,067 --> 00:24:57,067
AND HIS FACE WAS REAL RED.
584
00:24:57,067 --> 00:24:59,633
AND, UH,
HE REALLY DIDN'T LOOK VERY GOOD.
585
00:24:59,633 --> 00:25:02,200
AND AS HE RODE BY ME,
I SAID, "TOUGH LUCK, FREDDY."
586
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,467
LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT IT UP
ON THAT ONE.
587
00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:07,067
HE SAID TO ME, "WELL,
YOU CAN'T PICK YOUR JUDGES,
588
00:25:07,067 --> 00:25:09,933
BUT I CAN SURE PICK MY FRIENDS,"
AND RODE OFF.
589
00:25:09,933 --> 00:25:11,467
I WAS REALLY UPSET WITH HIM.
590
00:25:11,467 --> 00:25:13,067
AH.
591
00:25:13,067 --> 00:25:15,967
A BIT LATER,
THEY HOLLERED FOR ME.
592
00:25:15,967 --> 00:25:17,233
AND I WENT RIDING BACK.
593
00:25:17,233 --> 00:25:19,333
AND THERE WAS FREDDY,
LAYING ON THE GROUND.
594
00:25:21,633 --> 00:25:24,867
I JUMPED OFF MY HORSE AND,
UH, CHECKED HIM, HIS SIGNS.
595
00:25:24,867 --> 00:25:28,067
NO HEARTBEAT,
NO RESPIRATIONS, NO NOTHING.
596
00:25:28,067 --> 00:25:29,233
CALL 911.
597
00:25:29,233 --> 00:25:32,933
ANYBODY THAT CAN PRAY,
GET TO PRAYING NOW.
598
00:25:32,933 --> 00:25:34,667
I WENT TO PRAYIN', MYSELF.
599
00:25:34,667 --> 00:25:37,300
BUT THE FIRST PRAYER
I HAD TO PRAY WAS TO ASK GOD
600
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,267
TO FORGIVE ME FOR BEING MAD
AT MY FRIEND.
601
00:25:40,267 --> 00:25:44,133
OH, FORGIVE ME, GOD,
FOR BEING MAD AT MY BUDDY.
602
00:25:49,767 --> 00:25:51,400
[ HORN BLARES ]
603
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,167
Jesse:
VALERIE PATERS WAS INVOLVED
IN A HORRENDOUS MULTI-CAR PILEUP
604
00:25:55,167 --> 00:25:57,100
AND FOUND HERSELF TRAPPED
IN HER CAR,
605
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,467
WITH LIFE-THREATENING INJURIES.
606
00:25:59,467 --> 00:26:02,500
WHILE CREWS WORKED FOR TWO HOURS
TO FREE HER...
607
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:04,233
SHE'S FLATLINING.
608
00:26:04,233 --> 00:26:08,367
...SHE DIED AND CROSSED OVER
INTO THE AFTERLIFE.
609
00:26:15,067 --> 00:26:16,700
VALERIE TELLS ME HER SISTER,
CHERYL,
610
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:20,200
PLAYED A SIGNIFICANT ROLE
IN BRINGING HER BACK TO LIFE.
611
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,400
SO I'M INVESTIGATING WHAT SHE
DID TO HELP RESURRECT VALERIE
612
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,933
FROM THE DEAD.
613
00:26:26,933 --> 00:26:28,933
HOW WOULD YOU EVEN
HEAR ABOUT THE CRASH?
614
00:26:28,933 --> 00:26:30,067
DAVE DOBBS CALLED ME.
615
00:26:30,067 --> 00:26:31,200
WHO'S DAVE DOBBS?
616
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,533
HE WAS A FRIEND OF OURS
WHO WENT TO OUR CHURCH,
617
00:26:33,533 --> 00:26:34,567
WHO WAS A FIREFIGHTER.
618
00:26:34,567 --> 00:26:36,267
AND ONCE HE SAID, "DAVE,"
619
00:26:36,267 --> 00:26:40,300
I KNEW THAT VALERIE WAS PROBABLY
INVOLVED IN THAT CAR ACCIDENT.
620
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:41,867
WOW.
AND THEN, WHAT DID YOU DO?
621
00:26:41,867 --> 00:26:42,967
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
622
00:26:42,967 --> 00:26:44,900
WE WENT
RIGHT TO THE HOSPITAL.
623
00:26:47,500 --> 00:26:49,333
Cheryl:
WHEN I ARRIVED AT THE HOSPITAL,
624
00:26:49,333 --> 00:26:52,867
THE GRIEF COUNSELOR TOOK US INTO
A WAITING AREA FOR THE FAMILY.
625
00:26:52,867 --> 00:26:55,233
AND WE WAITED FOR THE DOCTOR
TO COME IN.
626
00:26:55,233 --> 00:26:57,267
-YOU HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING?
-NO.
627
00:26:57,267 --> 00:26:59,900
THEY HAVEN'T TOLD US ANYTHING.
WE DON'T KNOW.
628
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:03,067
EVENTUALLY, THE DOCTOR CAME IN.
629
00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:04,300
VALERIE PATERS' FAMILY?
630
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:05,500
YES, YES, YES.
631
00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,700
VALERIE'S IN CRITICAL CONDITION
IN THE ICU.
632
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,400
Cheryl:
AND HE SHARED WITH US THAT...
633
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,467
SHE ACTUALLY CODED IN
THE AMBULANCE ON THE WAY HERE.
634
00:27:11,467 --> 00:27:13,233
...HER INJURIES WERE EXTENSIVE.
635
00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:14,267
HER DIAPHRAGM IS RUPTURED.
636
00:27:14,267 --> 00:27:15,567
NO, NO.
637
00:27:15,567 --> 00:27:16,933
MOST OF HER MAJOR ORGANS
638
00:27:16,933 --> 00:27:18,933
HAVE BEEN PUSHED
INTO HER CHEST CAVITY.
639
00:27:18,933 --> 00:27:20,167
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING.
640
00:27:20,167 --> 00:27:21,733
ALL OF THE RIGHT SIDE
OF HER RIBS ARE BROKEN,
641
00:27:21,733 --> 00:27:24,333
AND SHE HAS
A LACERATED LIVER.
642
00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:27,367
IT'S REALLY NOT
LOOKING GOOD FOR VALERIE.
643
00:27:27,367 --> 00:27:31,167
Cheryl: SHE WAS UNRESPONSIVE.
AND THERE WAS NO BRAIN ACTIVITY.
644
00:27:31,167 --> 00:27:33,767
THE MACHINES
WERE KEEPING HER ALIVE.
645
00:27:33,767 --> 00:27:36,300
HE SAID THAT IF SHE MADE IT,
646
00:27:36,300 --> 00:27:39,067
THAT SHE WOULD PROBABLY
BE A VEGETABLE.
647
00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:41,167
AND IF SHE MAD IT, SHE WOULD
PROBABLY BE IN THE HOSPITAL
648
00:27:41,167 --> 00:27:42,533
AT LEAST A YEAR.
649
00:27:42,533 --> 00:27:44,467
-NO.
-I'M VERY SORRY.
650
00:27:44,467 --> 00:27:45,967
THAT'S NOT THE NEWS
WE WANTED TO HEAR.
651
00:27:45,967 --> 00:27:47,533
DON'T CRY.
652
00:27:55,067 --> 00:27:59,733
WHEN I WENT IN FOR THE FIRST
TIME TO SEE VALERIE,
653
00:27:59,733 --> 00:28:03,767
SHE HAD A PUNCTURED LUNG,
LACERATED LIVER.
654
00:28:03,767 --> 00:28:07,833
SHE WAS HOOKED UP
TO THE HEART MACHINE.
655
00:28:07,833 --> 00:28:09,733
YOU WOULDN'T THINK
SHE'D BE BACK.
656
00:28:15,367 --> 00:28:18,800
THEN, IT WAS LIKE MY SPIRIT
ROSE UP WITHIN ME.
657
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:23,333
I WENT INTO THE CHAPEL
AND BEGAN TO PRAY.
658
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:26,133
I HEARD THE LORD SAY TO ME,
"SHE'S WITH ME,
659
00:28:26,133 --> 00:28:28,067
AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO COME
BACK.
660
00:28:28,067 --> 00:28:31,600
AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT
TO BRING HER BACK."
661
00:28:35,067 --> 00:28:36,633
DURING THE TIME I WAS PRAYING,
662
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:38,100
I WENT INTO A VISION.
663
00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:41,233
AND I SAW VALERIE
PLAYING IN A RIVER.
664
00:28:41,233 --> 00:28:43,667
I WALKED THROUGH THE GRASS.
665
00:28:43,667 --> 00:28:45,267
I SAW THE FLOWERS.
666
00:28:45,267 --> 00:28:49,633
THE RIVER
WAS JUST CRYSTAL AND SHINY.
667
00:28:49,633 --> 00:28:51,233
IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
668
00:28:51,233 --> 00:28:52,533
WHEN I SAW HER,
669
00:28:52,533 --> 00:28:56,367
I WAS BESIDE MYSELF,
FULL OF JOY JUST WATCHING HER.
670
00:28:56,367 --> 00:28:57,767
SHE WAS JUST TOTALLY FREE.
671
00:28:57,767 --> 00:28:59,767
AND SHE WAS SO CHILDLIKE.
672
00:28:59,767 --> 00:29:01,300
AND SHE TURNED AROUND,
673
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:05,367
SPLASHED ME AND SAID, "TASTE
AND SEE THAT THE LORD IS GOOD."
674
00:29:07,433 --> 00:29:08,867
YOU SAW VALERIE IN HEAVEN?
675
00:29:08,867 --> 00:29:10,867
-YES.
-SHE WAS DEAD AND UP IN HEAVEN,
676
00:29:10,867 --> 00:29:12,300
-AND YOU SAW HER THERE?
-YES.
677
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:13,667
THAT'S UN--
THAT'S AMAZING.
678
00:29:13,667 --> 00:29:15,400
WAS SHE GLOWING?
WHAT WAS SHE DOING?
679
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,533
HOW DID SHE LOOK?
680
00:29:16,533 --> 00:29:17,833
SHE LOOKED LIKE HERSELF.
681
00:29:17,833 --> 00:29:21,667
BUT SHE WAS JUST FULL OF JOY
AND RADIANT AND FREE.
682
00:29:21,667 --> 00:29:24,900
WHAT DID YOU DO THEN?
683
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:27,433
IT WAS LIKE I WAS HOLDING
ONTO HER HANDS
684
00:29:27,433 --> 00:29:28,733
TO HOLD HER, LIKE, YOU KNOW,
685
00:29:28,733 --> 00:29:30,733
WHEN SOMEONE'S HANGING
OVER A CLIFF.
686
00:29:30,733 --> 00:29:32,267
AND SHE WAS SPEAKING TO ME,
SAYING...
687
00:29:32,267 --> 00:29:35,367
NO, I WANT TO STAY HERE.
688
00:29:35,367 --> 00:29:37,100
AND I KEPT SPEAKING TO HER,
689
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,133
SAYING, "VALERIE, YOUR PURPOSE
ISN'T DONE HERE ON EARTH.
690
00:29:40,133 --> 00:29:43,167
YOU NEED TO COME BACK."
691
00:29:43,167 --> 00:29:45,767
I JUST KEPT SAYING THAT TO HER.
692
00:29:45,767 --> 00:29:48,400
THEN,
SHE TURNED RIGHT BACK AROUND.
693
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,167
AND THEN,
I CAME OUT OF THAT VISION,
694
00:29:52,167 --> 00:29:55,067
BACK INTO THE CHAPEL.
695
00:29:55,067 --> 00:29:58,500
I JUST LAID RIGHT BACK
DOWN ON THE CHAPEL FLOOR
696
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,333
BECAUSE THERE WAS
SUCH A PRESENCE IN THERE.
697
00:30:00,333 --> 00:30:02,700
AND I JUST LAID THERE.
698
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,567
SO THAT MORNING, THE MORNING
AFTER YOUR PRAYER VIGIL,
699
00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:07,200
TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED THEN.
700
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,300
WELL, THE NURSE,
THE ALL-NIGHT NURSE, CAME IN.
701
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:12,700
AND HE STARTED TAKING
ALL HER VITALS.
702
00:30:15,567 --> 00:30:18,833
I WAS IN A CHAIR,
SITTING NEXT TO HER BED.
703
00:30:18,833 --> 00:30:22,833
I NOTICED WHEN HE CHECKED,
HE GOT EXCITED.
704
00:30:22,833 --> 00:30:25,133
HE JUST KIND OF WENT,
"SOMETHING'S GOING ON."
705
00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:26,567
THERE'S SOME ACTIVITY
WITH HER EYES.
706
00:30:26,567 --> 00:30:28,400
I NEED TO GET A DOCTOR.
707
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,633
HE SCURRIED OUT OF THE ROOM.
708
00:30:30,633 --> 00:30:33,933
SO WHEN THE DOCTOR SHOWED UP,
HE CHECKED VALERIE'S EYES,
709
00:30:33,933 --> 00:30:35,400
AND HE SAID...
710
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,333
WE'RE GETTING
BRAIN ACTIVITY.
711
00:30:38,333 --> 00:30:40,133
SHE'S COMING BACK TO US.
712
00:30:40,133 --> 00:30:41,800
THIS IS MIRACULOUS.
713
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,633
SHE WAS ALIVE AGAIN.
714
00:30:44,633 --> 00:30:46,933
LET'S GO AHEAD AND PREPARE
TO TAKE HER OFF LIFE SUPPORT.
715
00:30:46,933 --> 00:30:49,567
Jesse: VALERIE HAD FLATLINED
MULTIPLE TIMES,
716
00:30:49,567 --> 00:30:50,967
SUFFERED TWO STROKES
717
00:30:50,967 --> 00:30:54,600
AND HAD BEEN KEPT ALIVE BY
MACHINES FOR MORE THAN 3 DAYS.
718
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,167
BUT DOCTORS STILL HAD DOUBTS
SHE WOULD EVER BE THE SAME.
719
00:30:58,167 --> 00:30:59,733
SHE COULDN'T TALK.
720
00:30:59,733 --> 00:31:02,133
SHE JUST WOULD OPEN UP HER EYES.
721
00:31:02,133 --> 00:31:04,400
YOU COULD TELL
SHE WASN'T SURE WHAT WAS GOING
722
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,367
ON JUST BY THE WAY
SHE WAS LOOKING AT EVERYBODY.
723
00:31:08,367 --> 00:31:10,200
THE DOCTOR'S INITIAL ESTIMATES
724
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,233
WERE THAT SHE WOULD BE
IN FOR APPROXIMATELY A YEAR.
725
00:31:14,233 --> 00:31:18,400
AND SHE WALKED OUT WITH A CANE
IN ABOUT 2 1/2 MONTHS.
726
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,200
WELCOME BACK, VALERIE.
727
00:31:22,467 --> 00:31:23,533
-AMAZING.
-YES, IT WAS.
728
00:31:23,533 --> 00:31:25,067
SO THIS CASE
729
00:31:25,067 --> 00:31:26,833
IS JUST FILLED WITH MIRACLES
ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
730
00:31:26,833 --> 00:31:30,867
DO YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR ACTIONS
PLAYED A PART IN BRINGING
731
00:31:30,867 --> 00:31:32,667
-VALERIE BACK FROM THE DEAD?
-YES.
732
00:31:32,667 --> 00:31:36,667
I FEEL THAT BEING OBEDIENT
TO WHAT I HEARD
733
00:31:36,667 --> 00:31:41,200
AND PARTNERING WITH GOD
BROUGHT HER BACK TO LIFE.
734
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,467
Jesse:
CHERYL AND VALERIE'S STORY
REVEALS INCREDIBLE INSIGHT
735
00:31:44,467 --> 00:31:48,200
INTO HOW DEEP FAMILY CONNECTIONS
CAN TRANSCEND DEATH
736
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,200
AND EVEN INFLUENCE
DECISIONS IN THE AFTERLIFE.
737
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,500
CHERYL'S STRONG BOND
WITH HER SISTER
738
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:55,800
CLEARLY PLAYED A KEY ROLE
IN VALERIE'S RESURRECTION
739
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,100
AND HER RECOVERY.
740
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,333
CHERYL, TELL ME WHAT IT'S LIKE
TO SEE VALERIE STANDING HERE.
741
00:32:02,333 --> 00:32:06,500
YOU SAW HER LYING IN A HOSPITAL
BED, UNRECOGNIZABLE TO YOU.
742
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:08,933
AND NOW, HERE SHE IS.
WHAT IS THAT LIKE FOR YOU?
743
00:32:08,933 --> 00:32:10,133
EXCITING.
744
00:32:10,133 --> 00:32:13,167
I MEAN, THIS RIGHT HERE
IS A LIVE MIRACLE.
745
00:32:13,167 --> 00:32:14,333
HOW DID THE BOTH OF YOU
746
00:32:14,333 --> 00:32:16,700
DISCOVER THAT YOU HAD SEEN
THE SAME VISION?
747
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:18,667
SHE SAYS,
"I SAW YOU IN HEAVEN."
748
00:32:18,667 --> 00:32:20,967
AND I SAID, "YOU DID?
749
00:32:20,967 --> 00:32:22,800
WHAT WAS I WEARING?"
YOU KNOW?
750
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,533
AND SO WE KIND OF STARTED
TESTING ONE ANOTHER.
751
00:32:26,533 --> 00:32:28,900
WE WERE,
LIKE, TESTING EACH OTHER.
752
00:32:28,900 --> 00:32:32,333
SHE WAS WAITING
TO SAY CERTAIN THINGS TO ME.
753
00:32:32,333 --> 00:32:34,767
WE WERE PLAYING THIS LITTLE
GAME 'CAUSE I WAS LIKE,
754
00:32:34,767 --> 00:32:40,433
"I WANT TO SEE IF WHAT I SAW
WAS REALLY WHAT I SAW."
755
00:32:40,433 --> 00:32:43,233
SHE SAID, "I SAW YOU IN HEAVEN.
756
00:32:43,233 --> 00:32:44,500
I SAW YOU AT THE RIVER."
757
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:45,667
SHE SAID, "YOU WERE WEARING
758
00:32:45,667 --> 00:32:48,233
A GOWN
THAT WAS FLOWY AND IRIDESCENT."
759
00:32:48,233 --> 00:32:51,400
AND I WENT, "I WAS!"
760
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,933
TO GET THAT CONFIRMATION
FROM HER, AND HER FROM ME,
761
00:32:56,933 --> 00:33:00,933
NOTHING'S IMPOSSIBLE
TO THOSE THAT BELIEVE.
762
00:33:03,367 --> 00:33:06,833
WE SAW THAT WE EXPERIENCED
THE SAME THING.
763
00:33:06,833 --> 00:33:10,533
SHE EXPERIENCED IT
FROM EARTH
764
00:33:10,533 --> 00:33:13,067
WHILE I WAS
EXPERIENCING IT IN HEAVEN.
765
00:33:17,667 --> 00:33:19,400
Eddy: I STARTED THE CPR.
766
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,500
MY FRIEND DENNIS,
HE GOT ON THE MICROPHONE,
767
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,367
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO PRAY.
768
00:33:23,367 --> 00:33:26,667
LET'S PRAY FOR FREDDY
RIGHT NOW.
769
00:33:28,333 --> 00:33:30,267
AND PEOPLE
AROUND ME WERE PRAYIN'.
770
00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:32,367
THEY WERE ALL IN ONE MIND
771
00:33:32,367 --> 00:33:35,267
AND CALLING UP ON GOD
TO HEAL FREDDY.
772
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,633
Rodger:
TEXAS RODEO VETERAN FREDDY VEST
773
00:33:43,633 --> 00:33:47,600
DIED INSTANTLY FROM A SUDDEN
MASSIVE HEART ATTACK.
774
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,967
DEAD FOR OVER AN HOUR,
HE PASSED INTO THE AFTERLIFE
775
00:33:51,967 --> 00:33:55,300
BEFORE BEING BROUGHT BACK
TO THE WORLD OF THE LIVING.
776
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,800
TO UNDERSTAND
WHY HE WAS RESURRECTED,
777
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,600
I'M TALKING
WITH FELLOW CALF ROPER
778
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,267
-EDDY SMITH...
-CALL 911!
779
00:34:01,267 --> 00:34:03,100
...WHO FREDDY SAYS
WAS INSTRUMENTAL
780
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:04,500
IN BRINGING HIM BACK TO LIFE.
781
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,067
GOD, PLEASE HELP HIM.
782
00:34:06,067 --> 00:34:08,433
SO EVEN THOUGH FREDDY
WAS YOUR FRIEND,
783
00:34:08,433 --> 00:34:09,533
YOU, IN THAT MOMENT,
784
00:34:09,533 --> 00:34:11,400
YOU WERE ACTUALLY ANGRY
WITH HIM...
785
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,300
-OH, YEAH.
-...FOR WHAT HE HAD SAID.
786
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,900
YES. I WAS THINKING ABOUT
WALLOPING HIM A LITTLE BIT,
787
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:17,233
LAYING HANDS ON HIM.
788
00:34:17,233 --> 00:34:19,200
-NOT IN A NICE WAY?
-NOT IN A NICE WAY.
789
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,500
AND THEN, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
HE'S DEAD ON THE GROUND.
790
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:22,633
YES. YES.
791
00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:24,267
WHAT HAPPENED NEXT?
792
00:34:24,267 --> 00:34:27,200
I JUST KNEW THAT AT THAT POINT,
I HAD TO DO EVERYTHING
793
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,167
THAT I KNEW POSSIBLE
TO HELP TRY TO SAVE MY FRIEND.
794
00:34:30,167 --> 00:34:32,300
HEY, LET ME TAKE A LOOK
AT HIM.
795
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:34,533
HE WAS ALREADY TURNING BLUE,
796
00:34:34,533 --> 00:34:39,767
AND NO HEARTBEAT,
NO RESPIRATION, NO BREATHING,
797
00:34:39,767 --> 00:34:41,267
NOTHING.
798
00:34:41,267 --> 00:34:44,233
WE DON'T HAVE AMBULANCES
STANDING BY AT CALF ROPINGS.
799
00:34:44,233 --> 00:34:45,800
IF YOU HAVE A BULL RIDING,
800
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,600
THERE'S GONNA
BE AN AMBULANCE THERE 'CAUSE
801
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,433
AT JUST ABOUT ANY BULL RIDE,
SOMEBODY'S GONNA GET HURT.
802
00:34:50,433 --> 00:34:53,067
CALF ROPING,
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF INJURIES.
803
00:34:53,067 --> 00:34:54,300
I GOT DOWN ON MY KNEES,
804
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,067
AND I SAID,
"EVERYBODY THAT PRAYS,
805
00:34:57,067 --> 00:34:58,267
BE A-PRAYIN'."
806
00:34:58,267 --> 00:34:59,500
OKAY, ANYBODY OUT THERE
807
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,833
THAT CAN PRAY,
GO AHEAD AND PRAY NOW!
808
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:03,067
COME ON, FREDDY!
809
00:35:03,067 --> 00:35:06,067
I STARTED THE CPR.
I WENT TO PRAYING MYSELF.
810
00:35:06,067 --> 00:35:08,567
BUT THE FIRST PRAYER
I HAD TO PRAY WAS TO ASK GOD
811
00:35:08,567 --> 00:35:12,833
TO FORGIVE ME FOR BEING MAD
AT MY FRIEND.
812
00:35:12,833 --> 00:35:14,067
13, 14, 15...
813
00:35:14,067 --> 00:35:15,267
GIVE HIM SOME AIR.
814
00:35:15,267 --> 00:35:18,367
OH, FORGIVE ME, GOD,
FOR BEING MAD AT MY BUDDY.
815
00:35:18,367 --> 00:35:21,333
COME ON, FREDDY, BREATHE!
BREATHE!
816
00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:23,833
I FELT LIKE I HAD TO GET
GOD TO FORGIVE ME FIRST
817
00:35:23,833 --> 00:35:25,433
BEFORE HE WOULD HEAR MY PRAYER.
818
00:35:25,433 --> 00:35:28,333
MORE THAN LIKELY,
HE'S NOT GONNA MAKE IT.
819
00:35:28,333 --> 00:35:29,633
AT THAT POINT,
820
00:35:29,633 --> 00:35:32,467
THERE WAS NO ANGER
IN ME AT ALL TOWARDS FREDDY
821
00:35:32,467 --> 00:35:33,700
FOR ACTING THE WAY HE DID.
822
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:35,633
SO THEN, I STARTED THE CPR.
823
00:35:35,633 --> 00:35:38,200
MY FRIEND DENNIS,
HE GOT ON THE MICROPHONE,
824
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,933
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO PRAY.
825
00:35:39,933 --> 00:35:43,067
LET'S PRAY FOR FREDDY
RIGHT NOW.
826
00:35:44,967 --> 00:35:47,067
Eddy: AND PEOPLE AROUND ME
WERE PRAYIN',
827
00:35:47,067 --> 00:35:48,567
ALL DIFFERENT DENOMINATIONS.
828
00:35:48,567 --> 00:35:49,700
AND ALL OF 'EM WERE TOGETHER,
829
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,700
AND THEY WERE ALL IN ONE MIND
830
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:56,200
IN CALLING UP ON GOD
TO HEAL FREDDY.
831
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,867
FREDDY HAD NO FAMILY
THERE WITH HIM THAT DAY.
832
00:35:58,867 --> 00:36:00,333
GOD, ONLY
YOU CAN BRING HIM BACK.
833
00:36:00,333 --> 00:36:02,400
I THOUGHT ABOUT HIS WIFE
AND HIS KIDS.
834
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,933
AND I KNEW
I COULDN'T STOP PERFORMING CPR
835
00:36:04,933 --> 00:36:06,067
TO GET BLOOD MOVING.
836
00:36:06,067 --> 00:36:08,067
COME ON, FREDDY.
COME ON!
837
00:36:08,067 --> 00:36:09,067
COME ON!
BREATHE!
838
00:36:09,067 --> 00:36:10,500
COME ON!
COME ON!
839
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:13,067
I BROKE,
I'M SURE, SEVERAL RIBS
840
00:36:13,067 --> 00:36:14,933
AND PROBABLY HIS STERNUM TOO.
841
00:36:14,933 --> 00:36:18,333
THAT'S THE HARDEST I'VE EVER
WORKED ON ANYBODY IN MY LIFE.
842
00:36:18,333 --> 00:36:20,400
NO.
GOD, GIVE ME SOME STRENGTH.
843
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,900
I WAS EXHAUSTED.
844
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:28,233
AND I WAS JUST PRAYIN'
FOR FREDDY TO BE HEALED.
845
00:36:28,233 --> 00:36:29,700
HOW LONG DID YOU WORK
ON HIM?
846
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:33,067
SOME SAID 40, 45 MINUTES.
847
00:36:33,067 --> 00:36:35,133
BUT YOU JUST KEPT GOING?
848
00:36:35,133 --> 00:36:36,167
YEAH.
849
00:36:36,167 --> 00:36:38,433
A LOT OF PEOPLE
WOULD'VE GIVEN UP.
850
00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:40,600
I WAS GONNA
LET THE PARAMEDICS,
851
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,267
WHEN THEY GOT THERE,
LET THEM MAKE THE CALL.
852
00:36:44,267 --> 00:36:46,133
IN THE COUNTRY,
IF YOU NEED A AMBULANCE,
853
00:36:46,133 --> 00:36:47,433
IT'S GONNA BE A LONG TIME.
854
00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:50,200
SO I KNEW WHEN FREDDY WENT DOWN
855
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,367
THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY
BE A LONG TIME.
856
00:36:53,367 --> 00:36:54,933
THERE WAS A SECTION OF THE ARENA
857
00:36:54,933 --> 00:36:58,500
THAT THEY BROUGHT
THE AMBULANCE RIGHT IN THERE.
858
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,367
AT THAT POINT, THEY TOOK OVER.
859
00:37:00,367 --> 00:37:04,300
AND I JUST STEPPED BACK
AND KEPT PRAYIN'.
860
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,500
WE COULDN'T STOP PRAYIN'.
861
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:07,600
Man: ALL RIGHT, GUYS.
862
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:08,867
YOU READY TO MOVE HIM
TO THE TRUCK?
863
00:37:08,867 --> 00:37:10,300
WE NEED FOUR HANDS.
864
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,567
WHEN THEY LOADED FREDDY UP
AND PUT HIM ON THE STRETCHER...
865
00:37:13,567 --> 00:37:15,067
USE THAT BACKBOARD.
866
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:17,400
ONE, TWO, THREE.
867
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,533
...I THINK THEY WORKED ON HIM
868
00:37:18,533 --> 00:37:21,800
ABOUT 10 MINUTES
BEFORE THEY LEFT THE ARENA.
869
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,900
[ SIREN WAILS ]
870
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:30,200
IT WAS IN GOD'S HANDS
AT THAT POINT.
871
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:34,067
WHILE HE'S IN HEAVEN,
HE GETS TO SEE EACH PRAYER
872
00:37:34,067 --> 00:37:36,933
THAT IS BEING PRAYED FOR HIM
COMING UP INTO HEAVEN.
873
00:37:36,933 --> 00:37:39,467
HE ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE
THE SPIRITUAL ENERGY,
874
00:37:39,467 --> 00:37:42,933
AND THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY
PUSHED HIM BACK INTO HIS BODY.
875
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:47,467
Jesse:
FOR MORE "PROJECT AFTERLIFE,"
GO TO...
876
00:38:02,067 --> 00:38:04,900
Rodger: CALF ROPER FREDDY VEST
SUFFERED A FATAL HEART ATTACK
877
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:07,300
AT A TEXAS RODEO IN 2008.
878
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:08,467
FREDDY!
879
00:38:08,467 --> 00:38:11,067
SINCE THE AMBULANCE
WOULD TAKE 45 MINUTES
880
00:38:11,067 --> 00:38:13,800
TO ARRIVE DUE TO THE SMALL
TOWN'S PROXIMITY,
881
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,067
FREDDY'S FELLOW COWBOYS
882
00:38:15,067 --> 00:38:19,067
PERFORMED CONTINUOUS CPR
THAT ENTIRE TIME.
883
00:38:19,067 --> 00:38:20,567
I'M SPEAKING WITH EDDY,
884
00:38:20,567 --> 00:38:22,233
A RODEO JUDGE AND FRIEND
OF FREDDY'S,
885
00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:24,333
ABOUT HIS RELENTLESS CPR
EFFORTS,
886
00:38:24,333 --> 00:38:27,367
AND THE FACT
THAT FREDDY STILL HAD NO PULSE
887
00:38:27,367 --> 00:38:29,700
WHEN THE AMBULANCE
TOOK HIS LIFELESS BODY
888
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,467
TO THE HOSPITAL.
889
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,433
HOW DID IT FEEL
WHEN YOU SAW THEM PULLING AWAY?
890
00:38:38,433 --> 00:38:41,333
BEFORE THEY SHUT THE DOOR THERE,
DENNIS AND I --
891
00:38:41,333 --> 00:38:45,267
I JUST SEE THAT STRAIGHT LINE
THERE AND NO HEARTBEAT.
892
00:38:45,267 --> 00:38:47,433
AND I'M LIKE,
"BOY, THIS IS NOT GOOD."
893
00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:49,933
AT THAT POINT, DENNIS SAID,
"WELL, WHAT DO YOU THINK, EDDY?"
894
00:38:49,933 --> 00:38:55,133
AND I SAID, "WELL, I JUST,
I BELIEVE THAT HE'S GONE."
895
00:38:55,133 --> 00:38:56,567
Eddy: LATER ON THAT DAY,
896
00:38:56,567 --> 00:38:58,600
MY FRIEND DENNIS
GOT ON THE P.A. SYSTEM
897
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,833
AND ANNOUNCED THAT FREDDY
HAD MADE IT TO THE HOSPITAL.
898
00:39:01,833 --> 00:39:03,267
THEY GOT HIM STABILIZED
899
00:39:03,267 --> 00:39:05,800
TO THE BEST
OF THEIR ABILITY RIGHT NOW.
900
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,833
BUT HE STILL WASN'T
OUT OF THE WOODS.
901
00:39:07,833 --> 00:39:11,200
CONTINUE PRAYING.
CONTINUE PRAYING FOR HIS FAMILY.
902
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,767
CONTINUE PRAYING FOR HIM.
903
00:39:13,767 --> 00:39:15,467
I REALLY DIDN'T THINK
FREDDY WOULD EVEN MAKE IT
904
00:39:15,467 --> 00:39:16,800
TO THE HOSPITAL.
905
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:18,067
THEY WERE TELLING US
906
00:39:18,067 --> 00:39:20,867
THAT IT STILL DIDN'T LOOK
REAL GOOD FOR FREDDY
907
00:39:20,867 --> 00:39:23,067
BUT THAT HE WAS STILL ALIVE.
908
00:39:23,067 --> 00:39:25,167
THANK GOD FOR THAT.
909
00:39:25,167 --> 00:39:28,267
THAT WAS PROBABLY THE HARDEST
I'VE EVER PRAYED.
910
00:39:30,567 --> 00:39:32,600
Rodger: THOUGH DOCTORS
WERE EXTREMELY CONCERNED
911
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,067
ABOUT FREDDY'S CONDITION,
912
00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:38,267
HIS HEART AND BRAIN MADE A FULL
RECOVERY WITHIN A FEW DAYS.
913
00:39:38,267 --> 00:39:40,400
WELL, IT WAS A GOOD BIT LATER.
914
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,567
FREDDY,
HE CALLED ME FROM THE HOSPITAL.
915
00:39:42,567 --> 00:39:44,667
I AM NOT MAD AT YOU AT ALL.
916
00:39:44,667 --> 00:39:46,933
[ LAUGHS ]
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID.
917
00:39:46,933 --> 00:39:50,200
"I'M NOT MAD AT YOU ANYMORE."
[ LAUGHS ]
918
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,067
LOOKING BACK AT THAT SITUATION,
919
00:39:52,067 --> 00:39:54,667
I BELIEVE FREDDY VEST
WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD.
920
00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:55,800
EDDY.
921
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,267
OH, FREDDY,
HOW YOU DOING, BUDDY?
922
00:39:58,267 --> 00:40:00,267
IT'S ONE OF THEM TIMES
923
00:40:00,267 --> 00:40:03,167
THAT IT JUST PUTS A BIG OL'
TEAR IN YOUR EYE TO KNOW,
924
00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:05,033
YOU KNOW, THAT, YOU KNOW,
925
00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:08,500
GOD, YOU'RE SO GOOD
TO BRING OUR BROTHER BACK.
926
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:10,500
-I LOVE YOU.
-I LOVE YOU TOO, BUDDY.
927
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,567
I LOVE YOU, TOO.
928
00:40:12,567 --> 00:40:15,033
FREDDY, DO YOU BELIEVE
YOU WERE RAISED FROM THE DEAD?
929
00:40:15,033 --> 00:40:16,200
YES, SIR.
930
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,433
I'VE BEEN TO THE OTHER SIDE
AND BACK.
931
00:40:17,433 --> 00:40:20,267
WHY DO YOU THINK
YOU GOT A SECOND CHANCE?
932
00:40:20,267 --> 00:40:21,833
I FEEL LIKE GOD GAVE ME
933
00:40:21,833 --> 00:40:24,233
THIS SECOND CHANCE
WITH A MESSAGE.
934
00:40:24,233 --> 00:40:27,900
THE MESSAGE IS HOPE, COMFORT
935
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:30,267
TO THOSE THAT HAVE LOST
LOVED ONES,
936
00:40:30,267 --> 00:40:33,900
AND HEAVEN IS REAL.
937
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,733
WHAT LESSON DID YOU LEARN
FROM THIS EXPERIENCE
938
00:40:36,733 --> 00:40:38,933
THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE
WITH THE WORLD?
939
00:40:38,933 --> 00:40:42,100
FRIENDSHIP
IS TOO MEANINGFUL
940
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,800
TO LET SOME LITTLE THING
SPOIL IT.
941
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,367
HOW DID THIS EXPERIENCE
CHANGE YOUR LIFE?
942
00:40:48,367 --> 00:40:49,700
I TRY TO BE
A BETTER PERSON.
943
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,367
I DON'T ALWAYS
ACCOMPLISH THAT.
944
00:40:52,367 --> 00:40:54,267
BUT THAT'S MY THOUGHT
EVERY MORNING --
945
00:40:54,267 --> 00:40:56,267
I TRY TO BE
A BETTER PERSON.
946
00:40:56,267 --> 00:41:00,267
AND I TRY TO BE QUICK
TO FORGIVE,
947
00:41:00,267 --> 00:41:01,500
QUICK TO SAY "I LOVE YOU,"
948
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,500
AND I'M TRYING TO BE QUICK
TO SAY "I'M SORRY."
949
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:04,700
AND THAT'S PRETTY WELL
950
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:06,333
THE WAY
I TRY TO LIVE MY LIFE NOW.
951
00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:08,367
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH FOR
SHARING YOUR INCREDIBLE STORY.
952
00:41:08,367 --> 00:41:09,700
-THANK YOU.
-THIS WAS AMAZING.
953
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,133
-THANK YOU SO MUCH.
-RODGER, IT'S BEEN A BLESSING.
954
00:41:12,133 --> 00:41:15,967
Rodger: FREDDY'S CASE CHALLENGES
CONVENTIONS OF SCIENCE,
955
00:41:15,967 --> 00:41:17,333
DEMONSTRATING THAT ACTIONS
956
00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:19,367
AND EVEN THOUGHTS
FROM THE LIVING...
957
00:41:19,367 --> 00:41:21,767
CONTINUE PRAYING.
CONTINUE PRAYING FOR HIM.
958
00:41:21,767 --> 00:41:25,733
Rodger: ...CAN REACH INTO
THE AFTERLIFE AND CHANGE FATE.
959
00:41:25,733 --> 00:41:28,700
PRAYER AND FRIENDSHIP
ALL COMBINED TO BRING FREDDY
960
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:30,800
BACK FROM THE DEAD.
961
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,367
ALL RIGHT, RODGER.
962
00:41:32,367 --> 00:41:34,833
SO WHAT DID YOU LEARN
WITH FREDDY VEST?
963
00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:39,100
FOR ME, THIS CASE CONCLUSIVELY
PROVED THE POWER OF PRAYER.
964
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:43,067
WHILE HE'S IN HEAVEN,
HE GETS TO SEE EACH PRAYER
965
00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,633
THAT'S BEING PRAYED
FOR HIM COMING UP INTO HEAVEN.
966
00:41:45,633 --> 00:41:47,133
IT'S, LIKE,
THIS ILLUMINATED LITTLE BALL.
967
00:41:47,133 --> 00:41:52,567
AND THEY REACH THIS
CRITICAL MASS AND FLASH,
968
00:41:52,567 --> 00:41:55,967
EXPLODING HIM, BASICALLY,
BACK INTO HIS BODY.
969
00:41:55,967 --> 00:41:58,533
WHEN YOU'RE SEEING
THIS PHYSICAL ENERGY...
970
00:41:58,533 --> 00:42:01,367
YEAH, IT'S A SPIRITUAL
ENERGY.
971
00:42:01,367 --> 00:42:03,867
HE ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE
THE SPIRITUAL ENERGY.
972
00:42:03,867 --> 00:42:08,633
AND THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY
PUSHED HIM BACK INTO HIS BODY.
973
00:42:08,633 --> 00:42:10,200
Jesse: YEAH.
I THINK WE SEE THE EMERGENCE
974
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,300
OF A NEW KEY HERE AS WELL IN
THAT EDDY ASKED FOR FORGIVENESS.
975
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,267
IF EDDY DOESN'T ASK
FOR FORGIVENESS, DOES FREDDY
976
00:42:17,267 --> 00:42:19,167
COME BACK FROM THE DEAD?
977
00:42:19,167 --> 00:42:20,600
RIGHT.
978
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,200
SO, JESSE, WHAT STOOD OUT
ABOUT VALERIE PATERS' CASE?
979
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,567
VALERIE'S SISTER, CHERYL, SHE
EXPLAINED ABOUT THIS PREMONITION
980
00:42:27,567 --> 00:42:32,700
THAT SHE HAD BEFORE THE ACCIDENT
THAT KILLED HER SISTER, VALERIE.
981
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:33,800
SO, BECAUSE OF
THE PREMONITION,
982
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,167
SHE WAS ALREADY
PRAYING ABOUT
983
00:42:36,167 --> 00:42:37,467
WHAT HADN'T EVEN
HAPPENED YET?
984
00:42:37,467 --> 00:42:38,700
YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
985
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,867
I THINK THAT WE HAVE THE
EMERGENCE OF THIS POWERFUL KEY
986
00:42:41,867 --> 00:42:45,800
OF FOREKNOWLEDGE
OF A TRAGIC EVENT.
987
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
YOU KNOW, THE EARLIER THAT
SOMEBODY CAN PRAY,
988
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,567
THE BETTER CHANCE OF
A FAVORABLE OUTCOME.
989
00:42:52,567 --> 00:42:54,733
THIS IS THE FIRST CASE
I'VE SEEN WHERE, ACTUALLY,
990
00:42:54,733 --> 00:42:58,200
JESUS ACTUALLY ANOINTS
VALERIE IN THE AFTERLIFE.
991
00:43:01,567 --> 00:43:04,867
I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL
OF OUR PREVIOUS CASES
992
00:43:04,867 --> 00:43:07,500
WHERE SOMEONE ANOINTED SOMEONE
ON THIS SIDE OF LIFE.
993
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:09,700
BUT FOR HIM TO, ACTUALLY,
TO ANOINT HER
994
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,067
OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE,
995
00:43:11,067 --> 00:43:12,933
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME
WE'VE SEEN THAT.
996
00:43:12,933 --> 00:43:14,333
-YEAH.
-INCREDIBLE.
997
00:43:14,333 --> 00:43:16,333
WE'RE GETTING OUR QUESTIONS
ANSWERED.
998
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:19,633
I THINK WE'RE GETTING
AN INCREDIBLE PICTURE
999
00:43:19,633 --> 00:43:22,733
OF WHAT BRINGING SOMEBODY BACK
FROM THE DEAD LOOKS LIKE.
1000
00:43:22,733 --> 00:43:25,400
I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT
IT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC THING.
1001
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,367
IT STILL DEPENDS ON
WHAT WE DECIDE TO DO.
1002
00:43:27,367 --> 00:43:28,833
THERE'S MORE STORIES
OUT THERE.
1003
00:43:28,833 --> 00:43:30,767
THERE'S MORE THINGS
THAT WE HAVEN'T LEARNED YET.
1004
00:43:30,767 --> 00:43:32,433
AND I'M EXCITED
TO UNCOVER THEM AND --
1005
00:43:32,433 --> 00:43:33,933
AND THEN JUST
TO CONTINUE ON.
1006
00:43:33,933 --> 00:43:35,800
ALL RIGHT.
NICE WORK, GUYS.
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