Original subtitles

I TOLD MY WIFE, "SOMETHING'S WRONG. I THINK I'M GONNA DIE."

THREE DEMONS, THEY JUST CAME OUT OF MY HEART LAUGHING.

"WE GOT HIM."

Arthur: I WAS GETTING A PREVIEW OF HEAVEN AND HELL.

ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU DIE,

IT'S ALMOST LIKE GETTING A BURDEN OFF YOUR SHOULDER.

[ FLATLINE ]

Narrator: THERE ARE THOSE WHO SAY

THEY HAVE VISITED THE AFTERLIFE,

CHALLENGING OUR UNDERSTANDING OF DEATH.

MOTIVATED BY THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES

PULLING VICTIMS BACK FROM THE GRAVE,

FOUR INVESTIGATORS NOW SEEK TO SOLVE

THE MYSTERIES OF RESURRECTION.

Johnny: THIS IS GONNA HELP UNLOCK SOMETHING

THAT HASN'T BEEN KNOWN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

REGARDLESS OF RELIGION, THE PERSON WAS DEAD,

AND THEY CAME BACK TO LIFE.

Jesse: WE'RE PURSUING THIS TO SHOW

THAT THE IMPOSSIBLE IS, IN FACT, POSSIBLE.

Sam: DEATH DOESN'T REALLY HAVE THE FINAL SAY-SO.

WHY DID YOU DEFY THE ODDS?

Narrator: THIS IS "PROJECT AFTERLIFE."

-- Captions by VITAC -- www.vitac.com

CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS

**

I'M A MINISTER.

I CONSIDER MYSELF SOMEONE WHO HAS FAITH,

BUT AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THESE CASES,

AND WE'RE REVIEWING THESE CASES, MY FAITH IS BEING STRETCHED.

THIS WHOLE CHALLENGE OF PEOPLE COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD

HAS REALLY STRETCHED ANY OF US TO

BEYOND THE LIMITS OF OUR UNDERSTANDING.

THE FIRST THING YOUR NATURAL MIND IS GONNA DO

IS CHECK OUT OF HERE WHEN YOU SEE SOMEBODY

THAT WAS ONCE RESPONSIVE, NOW UNRESPONSIVE.

I GOT A GOOD ONE HERE -- ARTHUR VEAL.

IN 2012, HE DIED.

WENT IN FOR A ROUTINE CHECKUP, THINGS WENT REALLY BAD,

AND HE ENDED UP DYING FOR 45 MINUTES.

HE WAS GONE.

THEY WERE PREPPING HIM FOR THE MORGUE.

THEY SAID HE WAS GONE. NO HEARTBEAT -- GONE.

AND WHO IS THE OTHER PARTY IN THIS?

LIKE, HOW DID HE GET THROUGH THIS?

HIS GRANDSON, SEAN, WENT IN THE ROOM.

SOMETHING HAPPENED.

ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT ARTHUR,

HE WAS A PRETTY BAD MAN BEFORE THIS HAPPENED.

HE HAD SERVED SOME TIME IN PRISON,

HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH NARCOTICS.

I CAME ACROSS THE CASE OF THEO NEZ.

THEO IS ACTUALLY A NAVAJO INDIAN FROM NAVAJO INDIAN TRIBE.

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND,

THEO WAS DEAD FOR FOUR HOURS AFTER A DRUG OVERDOSE.

OKAY, SO I SEE HERE THAT THEO DIED

FROM AN OVERDOSE ON METHAMPHETAMINE.

METH IS A STIMULANT, AND IF THERE'S NO INTERVENTION,

A PERSON WILL GO UNCONSCIOUS, INTO A COMA,

STOP BREATHING, AND JUST DIE.

GUY DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE, AND INSTEAD OF GOING FOR HELP,

HIS WIFE HEARS A VOICE TELLING HER TO GO PRAY,

AND SHE DOES THAT INSTEAD OF CALLING 911.

WHO NATURALLY WILL JUST STAND THERE AND PRAY?

NO ONE NATURALLY WOULD DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT, GOOD LUCK GOING OUT THERE

AND UNCOVER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS YOU CAN

SO THAT WE ALL CAN LEARN

A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE KNOW NOW.

Sam: I'M HEADING THREE HOURS OUTSIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO,

ONTO A NAVAJO INDIAN RESERVATION TO MEET WITH THEO NEZ.

TRADITIONALLY, THE NAVAJO PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO DISCUSS DEATH,

BUT THEO'S INCREDIBLE STORY DEMANDS TO BE TOLD.

APPARENTLY, HE WAS DEAD FOR FOUR HOURS BEFORE BEING RESURRECTED,

WHICH DEFIES ALL MEDICAL LOGIC,

AND IS THE MOST EXTREME CASE THAT I'VE EVER HEARD.

I'M MEETING THEO ON THE SACRED NAVAJO GROUNDS WHERE HE GREW UP.

HELLO, THEO. HI, SAM.

THE STORY THAT I HAVE TODAY, IT PERTAINS TO LIFE AND DEATH.

MY LIFE BEFORE ALL THIS HAPPENED TO ME

WAS JUST TOTAL REBELLION, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS.

I JUST REFUSED TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE,

LIVE MY OWN LIFE IN MY OWN WAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I REGRET --

THE WAY I USED TO ACT AND TREAT PEOPLE.

I DON'T EVEN LIKE IT ONE MINUTE.

I WAS 32 YEARS OLD, AND I WORK IN CONSTRUCTION.

I FELT GOOD, BUT IT'S JUST THE DRUGS GOT A HOLD OF ME.

YOU WANT SOME OF THIS?

A COUPLE OF GUYS INTRODUCED ME TO METH.

TAKING THIS DRUG GAVE ME A BAD ATTITUDE.

THIS IS MY HOUSE. THESE ARE MY RULES.

HEY, MAN, I'M SORRY, DUDE.

YEAH, OKAY, WELL, DON'T BE SORRY. JUST STOP IT.

GOT ME TO THINKING THAT I WAS BETTER THAN EVERYBODY.

GET YOUR FOOT OFF MY NECK, YOU KNOW?

YOU'RE CHOKING ME.

AND IT ROBBED ME OF ALMOST EVERYTHING.

PREACHERS WOULD COME TO ME...

ALL RIGHT, WHAT? GOD BLESS YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME A MOMENT

TO TELL YOU ABOUT THE LORD'S WORK.

...AND TELL ME THAT GOD WANTS YOU TO MAKE A CHOICE...

GET OUT OF HERE. LEAVE.

...LIFE, OR YOU WANT MONEY.

GOD BLESS YOU. GET OUT OF HERE.

AND OUT OF IGNORANCE, I CHOSE MONEY.

IT WAS JULY 2 OF 1995

THAT I OVERDOSED ON METH IN MY OWN HOME.

I REMEMBER THAT DAY.

WE WERE UNDER A LOT OF STRESS.

I WASN'T WORKING, MY WIFE WASN'T WORKING.

I WAS WATCHING TV WITH MY KIDS,

AND I'M THINKING, "I'LL GO TAKE ONE MORE LINE,"

SO I WENT IN THE BEDROOM.

I TOOK ONE MORE LINE, THAT'S WHEN THIS ALL STARTED.

AS SOON AS I TOOK THAT LINE, I KNEW I TOOK TOO MUCH

BECAUSE MY HEART BEGAN TO RUN OUT OF CONTROL,

AND I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG.

[ GROANS ]

Sam: AS THEO LAY ON THE BED,

THE STIMULANTS IN THE METHAMPHETAMINE

BLASTED THROUGH HIS SYSTEM, CAUSING HIS HEART

TO PUMP RAPIDLY THROUGH THE NARROWING BLOOD VESSELS.

WHAT WAS THE LAST THING

THAT ACTUALLY YOU REMEMBER BEFORE YOU DIED?

WELL, THE LAST THING I REMEMBER IS I LAID ON MY BED,

AND I ASKED MY WIFE TO GET ME MY BIBLE.

[ GASPING ]

I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE BEDROOM,

AND MY HEART WAS BEATING SO FAST.

DEB!

I LAID DOWN.

I TOLD MY WIFE, "LOOK FOR MY BIBLE, LOOK FOR MY BIBLE."

Debbie: STOP, PLEASE, THEO.

I TOLD MY WIFE, I SAID, "SOMETHING'S WRONG.

I THINK I'M GONNA DIE."

I WASN'T READY TO DIE, BUT I KNEW I WAS GONNA DIE.

LOOK AT ME. DON'T LEAVE ME.

AND I TRIED TO REPENT AT THE LAST MOMENT.

HONEY! OH, LORD, SAVE ME.

BUT THAT DIDN'T WORK.

IT FELT LIKE JUDGMENT WAS THERE.

THEO. SNAP OUT OF IT, THEO. THEO.

IT WAS TOO LATE. MY HEART STOPPED.

NO!

I REMEMBER IS THIS WORRIED LOOK ON MY WIFE'S FACE.

AND AFTER THAT, I TOOK A JOURNEY THROUGH HELL.

Rodger: I'M DRIVING TO SOUTH HOLLAND,

A VILLAGE OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO, ILLINOIS,

TO MEET WITH 64-YEAR-OLD ARTHUR VEAL.

FROM WHAT I KNOW,

ARTHUR USED TO LEAD A VERY PROFITABLE LIFE OF CRIME

BEFORE HE WAS INCARCERATED BACK IN 2002.

THOUGH HE NEVER USED TO BE A RELIGIOUS MAN,

ARTHUR'S LIFE HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY

SINCE HIS EXPERIENCE WITH THE AFTERLIFE.

HELLO, ARTHUR. I'M RODGER.

THANKS FOR MEETING ME.

WE'RE MEETING AT THE CHURCH HE NOW ATTENDS --

A PLACE HE DIDN'T SEE MUCH OF DURING HIS CRIMINAL DAYS.

BEFORE YOU DIED IN 2012,

YOU SAID YOU WERE LIVING A PRETTY IMMORAL LIFE.

I LIVED ON THE LEFT SIDE MORE THAN I DID THE RIGHT.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

I WAS WHAT THEY CALL IN THE STREETS A HUSTLER.

I KIND OF WORSHIPED MONEY TOO MUCH.

I'D GO TO BED THINKING ABOUT GETTING MONEY,

AND I'D WAKE UP THINKING ABOUT GETTING MONEY.

I SPENT ALL DAY COUNTING MONEY.

SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

I BROKE THE LAW QUITE A BIT.

I TREATED PEOPLE BADLY.

SO, I HAD ISSUES.

SO, TELL ME A BIT ABOUT YOUR HEART PROBLEMS.

WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU GO THROUGH?

WELL, BASICALLY, I WENT TO THE HOSPITAL

FOR JUST A NORMAL PROCEDURE.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S NOT LOOKING SO GOOD.

Arthur: I HAD TO COME IN ONE MORNING

'CAUSE I'VE GOT CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE.

THEY WAS DOING A PROCEDURE,

AND THEY GO DOWN AND TAKE A PICTURE OF THE HEART.

ONCE THEY TOOK A PICTURE OF THE HEART,

THEY TOLD ME THEY HAD TO OPERATE, LIKE, RIGHT AWAY.

Rodger: PICTURES OF ARTHUR'S HEART SHOW FLUID BUILD-UP,

WHICH IS A FAIRLY COMMON RESULT OF CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE,

BUT IN ARTHUR'S CASE,

IT HAPPENED AT AN EXTREMELY ACCELERATED RATE.

[ SIGHS ]

WITHOUT IMMEDIATE SURGERY, ARTHUR WOULD SURELY DIE.

Arthur: THEY PREPPED ME THAT DAY,

AND THEY OPERATED ON ME THE NEXT MORNING.

[ MONITOR BEEPING STEADILY ]

DURING THE PROCEDURE, MY HEART STOPPED.

[ FLATLINE ]

AND THEY COULDN'T GET IT BACK GOING.

Man: HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN DOWN?

Woman: 13 MINUTES, NO PULSE.

THEY START PUMPING ON THE HEART, TRYING TO GET ME BACK.

THEY COULDN'T BRING IT BACK. 27 MINUTES, DOCTOR.

THEY STAYED WITH ME FOR 45 MINUTES,

TRYING TO BRING ME BACK.

THEN THEY FINALLY CALLED IT QUITS.

MY HEART STOPPED BEATING, AND I WAS OFFICIALLY DEAD.

[ SIGHS ] I'M GONNA CALL THIS ONE IN.

TIME OF DEATH -- 18:45.

AND THAT WAS IT.

NEXT THING I KNOW, I'M ON THE TRIP.

IT WASN'T A DREAM I WAS IN, IT WAS JUDGMENT DAY.

I TOOK A JOURNEY THROUGH HELL.

YOU ACTUALLY WENT TO HELL?

I COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE LAKE OF FIRE.

[ FLATLINE ]

**

Sam: THEO NEZ HAS ATTRACTED

THE ATTENTION OF "PROJECT AFTERLIFE."

IN 2004, THE FATHER OF 2 OVERDOSED ON METHAMPHETAMINES

INSIDE HIS NAVAJO RESERVATION HOME IN NEW MEXICO.

THE OVERDOSE WAS FATAL.

THE LAST THING I REMEMBER

IS THIS WORRIED LOOK ON MY WIFE'S FACE.

AND AFTER THAT, I TOOK A JOURNEY THROUGH HELL.

YOU ACTUALLY WENT TO HELL?

YES, ALL THE THINGS THAT I SEEN IS --

WORDS CANNOT EXPLAIN, SAM.

Theo: THE FIRST THING I SAW WAS THREE DEMONS.

THEY JUST CAME OUT OF MY HEART, LAUGHING, TALKING,

"WE GOT HIM. WE GOT HIM."

WHEN MY HEART STOPPED, I LITERALLY CAME OUT OF MY BODY.

I STOOD UP.

I COULD SEE MY BODY, AND MY WIFE HOLDING MY HAND, PRAYING.

AND AS I STOOD UP, I HEARD A VOICE BEHIND ME.

JESUS SHOWED UP.

HE SAID, "MY SON."

AND I TURNED AROUND, IT WAS HIM.

WHEN HE REACHED OUT, I COULD SEE SCARS ON HIM.

IT'S WHEN HE SAID, "I'VE GOT MUCH TO SHOW YOU.

YOU GOT MUCH TO SEE."

AND I STARTED TO WALK WITH HIM.

WE WERE WALKING ON A PATHWAY THAT GOES DOWN INTO THE EARTH.

AS WE WERE WALKING, I'M HOLDING JESUS' HAND,

JUST LIKE A LITTLE CHILD HOLDING DADDY'S HAND.

I COULD SEE DEMONS,

AND I COULD SEE THEM REACHING OUT, GRABBING FOR ME.

THEY COME THIS CLOSE, BUT THEY COULDN'T GRAB ME

BECAUSE I WAS WITH -- JESUS WAS THE LIGHT.

WE COME TO A LEDGE WHERE I COULD ACTUALLY SEE THE LEDGE.

IT WAS A LAKE OF FIRE DOWN BELOW.

I SAW PEOPLE THERE IN PIT AFTER PIT, UNBEARABLE LONELINESS.

THERE'S NO HOPE.

WHEN I WAS WALKING WITH JESUS, WE COME UP TO A CERTAIN PIT.

IT WAS EMPTY. AND MY MIND IS THINKING, "WOW, AN EMPTY PIT.

I WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENED. I HAVEN'T SEEN ONE BEFORE."

THERE WAS ONE THERE THAT WAS EMPTY.

AND JESUS KNEW WHAT I THINKING.

"NO, PLEASE, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO HELL."

AND I STARTED TO SCREAM AND YELL AND REPENT.

BEFORE I COULD ASK A QUESTION, HE TOLD ME,

"THIS IS THE PIT SATAN HIMSELF HAS DUG FOR YOU."

NO!

HE SAID, "IT BELONGS TO YOU."

HOW DID YOU FEEL TO KNOW

THAT YOU HAD A RESERVED SPOT IN HELL WAITING FOR YOU?

IT FELT TERRIBLE.

I MEAN, WORDS CANNOT EXPLAIN.

ALL THIS TIME, I THOUGHT, "THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN TO ME."

BUT IT DID HAPPEN TO ME.

WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND?

I THOUGHT THIS WAS THE END FOR ME.

AND I CAN FEEL THE LONELINESS, THE SORROWS,

THE END, THE POINT OF NO RETURN.

AND NOW JUDGMENT WAS ABOUT TO BE SENTENCED.

I WAS CRYING AND SOBBING, BEGGING.

I'LL DO ANYTHING, PLEASE! PLEASE!

NO MORE DRINKING! NO MORE DRUGS!

AND WHEN I WAS CRYING AT THE FEET OF JESUS,

TOUCHED ME RIGHT ON MY SHOULDER,

AND THAT'S WHEN HE SAID, "LISTEN."

Debbie: LORD, HEAR MY WORDS, HEAR MY CRY.

LORD, I NEED THEO.

HE SAID, "WHO DO YOU THINK THAT IS?"

I LISTENED, AND I SAID, "LORD, THAT'S MY WIFE.

SHE'S PRAYING."

RESURRECT THEO. BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE.

BRING HIM BACK TO HIS BOYS.

AFTER MUCH PRAYING AND BEGGING THAT SHE WAS DOING,

GOD HIMSELF SPOKE TO ME, AND I WILL NEVER FORGET IT.

HE SAID, "MY SON, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU ONE MORE CHANCE

ONLY BECAUSE OF THE PRAYER AND THE FAITH OF YOUR WIFE."

[ SOBS ]

JESUS THEN TOOK ME BACK DOWN TO WHERE MY BODY WAS LAYING IN BED,

AND I'M STANDING OVER HERE WATCHING MY BODY.

JESUS TOOK MY OLD HEART OUT, BLACK, PUT A NEW ONE IN.

HE LOOKED AT ME.

WITH HIS TIP OF HIS FINGER, TOUCHED MY HEART LIKE THIS.

MY HEART BEGAN TO RUN.

MY EYES OPENED.

[ GASPING ]

THEO.

I WAS RESURRECTED.

SO, HOW DOES IT FEEL

TO HAVE ESCAPED HELL AND GET A SECOND CHANCE?

I FEEL LIKE I'M THE LUCKIEST MAN ALIVE.

I WAS GIVEN A SECOND CHANCE, ONLY BECAUSE MY WIFE WAS PRAYING

AND HAD THE FAITH TO BELIEVE THAT THE LORD CAN HAVE MERCY.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOUR WIFE'S PRAYERS

IS WHAT BROUGHT YOU BACK TO LIFE?

YES. IF IT WASN'T FOR MY WIFE PRAYING AND HAVING THE FAITH,

I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN HERE.

HAVING EXPERIENCED MY OWN SUCCESSFUL USE OF PRAYER

AND PHYSICAL TOUCH TO HELP RESURRECT SOMEONE FROM THE DEAD,

I WANT TO KNOW IF THEO'S WIFE DID ANYTHING SIMILAR.

DID SHE PRAY? DID SHE ANOINT HIM WITH OIL?

DEBBIE HAS AGREED TO MEET WITH ME SO I CAN FIND OUT.

HOW YOU DOING, DEBBIE? Debbie: HI.

I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU MEETING WITH ME TODAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO YOUR HUSBAND, THEO,

ABOUT HIS STORY, AND HE TELLS ME

THAT YOU PLAYED AN IMPORTANT PART IN IT.

I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR SIDE OF THE STORY.

WELL, THAT DAY WAS VERY SAD FOR ME.

I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, JUST --

TOLD ME THAT SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT.

DEB!

Debbie: I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM SCARED OF ANYTHING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I'VE NEVER SEEN HIM AFRAID UNTIL THAT NIGHT

WHEN ALL THIS HAD TAKEN PLACE.

OH, MY GOD, BABY. THEO, THEO, WHAT'S WRONG?

THAT'S WHEN I STARTED TO SEE FEAR ON HIS FACE.

"MY HEART'S RUNNING TOO FAST," HE SAID.

I TOLD HIM, I SAID, "WHAT DID YOU DO?

HURRY, DEBBIE, GET MY BIBLE.

HE ASKED FOR HIS BIBLE.

IT KIND OF SURPRISED ME.

REALLY, IT STUNNED ME.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I SEEN HIM ASK FOR THE BIBLE.

I DUSTED IT OFF AS BEST I COULD, AND I GAVE IT TO HIM.

THAT'S WHEN HE PUT IT ON HIS CHEST.

HE WAS HOLDING IT FOR DEAR LIFE,

LIKE WHEN YOU HOLD ONTO A LIFE RAFT.

GOD HELP ME.

THAT'S HOW HE WAS HOLDING THE WORD OF GOD,

RIGHT HERE ON HIS CHEST.

OH, LORD, SAVE ME.

HE WAS REPENTING.

ONCE HE HAD THE BIBLE HERE, HE STARTED ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS.

"FORGIVE ME," SEEMED LIKE A DESPERATE ATTEMPT

WAS WHAT HE WAS DOING, THE WAY HE WAS CLUTCHING THE BIBLE.

AND I DID HEAR HIM CRY OUT TO GOD.

GOD, HELP ME, SAVE ME. THEO, WHAT'S WRONG?

BUT THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, IT WAS ALREADY TOO LATE.

DON'T DIE ON ME. DON'T DIE ON ME. THEO.

I DID SEE HIM DRAW HIS LAST BREATH.

THEO, STOP IT!

WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU WERE?

I THINK I WAS GETTING A PREVIEW OF HEAVEN AND HELL.

[ FLATLINE ]

Rodger: I'M INVESTIGATING THE CASE OF ARTHUR VEAL.

HE SUFFERED FROM CONGESTIVE HEART FAILURE,

WAS OPERATED ON, AND DIED.

ARTHUR HAD NO OXYGEN FLOWING TO HIS BRAIN

FOR OVER 45 MINUTES,

BUT IT'S ARTHUR'S EXPERIENCE IN THE AFTERLIFE

THAT INTRIGUES ME.

SO, AFTER YOU DIED ON THE OPERATING TABLE,

THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

ACTUALLY, WHEN YOU DIE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A...

[ EXHALES DEEPLY ]

GETTING A BURDEN OFF YOUR SHOULDER.

Arthur: I WASN'T IN THE SAME BODY THAT WAS ON THAT TABLE.

I WAS IN ANOTHER BODY, A HEALTHY BODY

AS IF I WAS 21, 22 YEARS OLD.

I HAD ALL MY SENSES.

I COULD HEAR, SMELL, SEE.

I MET THIS PERSON.

HE WAS TALL, DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.

I DIDN'T ASK HIM WHO HE WAS,

BUT I KNEW I WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW HIM.

I JUST FIGURED IT WAS PART OF THE PROCEDURE YOU GO THROUGH

AFTER YOU DIE.

I REMEMBER THE SPIRIT TAKING ME TO A LARGE BODY OF WATER.

THERE WAS A DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN THE LEFT SIDE AND THE RIGHT SIDE -- BIG DIFFERENCE.

LEFT SIDE, MOSTLY THE WALLS AND EVERYTHING WAS BLACK.

LOOKED LIKE LOST SOULS WAS CONDEMNED TO BE TORTURED.

RIGHT SIDE LOOKED LIKE GOD HAD OPENED THE DOOR FOR THEM,

AND THEN LIVED THE REST OF THEY LIFE SATISFIED.

IT WAS LIKE LOOKING AT A SPRING DAY.

EVERYTHING WAS NICE.

IT WAS A STREAM RUNNING THROUGH WITH NOTHING BUT SPIRITS,

AND SOME OF THE SPIRITS...

SAID, "NOT THAT ONE."

SO, YOU WERE STANDING THERE

ON THE EDGE OF THIS BODY OF WATER.

WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU WERE?

I THINK I WAS GETTING A PREVIEW OF HEAVEN AND HELL.

I FIGURED NO WAY I'M GOING TO THE RIGHT.

SO, YOU'RE STANDING THERE BETWEEN HEAVEN AND HELL,

THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

ALL OF A SUDDEN, I WAS IN ANOTHER ROOM

THAT WAS LIKE A BIG FLOOR, CHECKERED FLOOR.

AND I COULD KIND OF SEE MY PEOPLE LOOKING DOWN ON ME.

JUST LIKE I COULD LOOK UP AND SEE THE CEILING.

I COULD LOOK UP LIKE THROUGH A GLASS WINDOW

AND SEE ALL MY FAMILY AROUND ME -- FAMILY AND FRIENDS.

I HEAR MY GRANDBABY LAUGHING,

MY WIFE CRYING, BUT THEY WERE PRAYING.

BRING HIM BACK TO US, GOD.

I HEAR THEM PRAYING, HOLDING HANDS,

AND I SAID TO MYSELF, "I'M DEAD ALREADY.

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GO HOME.

I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU GUYS PRAYING OVER A DEAD BODY."

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, POP, I WAS BACK IN MY BODY.

BABY.

THE FIRST PERSON I SAW WHEN I OPENED MY EYES WAS MY WIFE.

SO, YOU WERE DEAD FOR 45 MINUTES, AND YOU CAME BACK?

AND I CAME BACK.

WHEN YOU WOKE UP,

DID YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU RIGHT AWAY?

YES, THAT'S ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT.

FIRST, I WOULD TRY TO DISREGARD IT JUST AS A DREAM,

BUT THEN IT WOULD COME TO MIND,

I SAID, "YOU KNOW THAT WASN'T NO DREAM."

AND I KNEW IT WASN'T A DREAM.

SO, WAS THERE ANYBODY BACK IN THE REAL WORLD

WORKING TO BRING YOU BACK FROM THE DEAD?

WELL, MY GRANDSON, SEAN, SWEARS HE SPEAKS TO GOD,

AND GOD SPEAKS TO HIM, AND HE WAS PRAYING FOR ME.

THE STORY MIGHT NOT MEAN NOTHING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE,

BUT IT MEANT SOMETHING TO ME.

PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE IN STORE FOR ONCE YOU DIE.

Rodger: ARTHUR IS LUCKY TO BE ALIVE.

CODING FOR 45 MINUTES

WHILE DOCTORS WORKED TO RESUSCITATE HIM

SHOULD HAVE LEFT ARTHUR WITH BRAIN DAMAGE.

DESPITE THE ODDS, ARTHUR'S GRANDSON SEAN

FELT SOMETHING MORE NEEDED TO BE DONE.

SO, I HAVE ARRANGED TO MEET WITH SEAN

TO HEAR HIS SIDE OF THE STORY.

SEAN.

THANKS FOR MEETING ME HERE.

SO, TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY.

WELL, MY GRANDFATHER, HE DIED.

HE DIED FOR 45 MINUTES.

THE DAY HE WENT IN FOR THE ROUTINE PROCEDURE,

EVERYONE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE AN EASY BREEZE,

YOU KNOW, AND THAT HE WOULD RETURN HOME THAT EVENING.

HEY, GRANDMA, WHAT'S UP?

THEN MY GRANDMOTHER CALLED ME

AND TOLD ME THINGS DIDN'T GO AS THEY HAD PLANNED,

AND HE HAD TO HAVE AN EMERGENCY SURGERY.

WOMAN: An infection in his heart!

I COULD INITIALLY HEAR THE SORROW IN HER VOICE,

AND I COULD HEAR THAT SHE WAS AFRAID.

OKAY, GRANDMA, I'LL BE THERE SOON. I'LL BE THERE SOON.

IT SEEMS LIKE THINGS HAD WENT IN TOTAL DISARRAY VERY QUICKLY.

INFECTION HAD SET UP.

WE'RE FIGHTING THE INFECTION.

THE DOCTOR'S STILL IN SURGERY.

AND ONCE THE INFECTION SET UP, SLOWLY BUT SURELY,

SOME OF HIS ORGANS WERE STARTING TO SHUT DOWN.

IT WAS LIKE BAD NEWS AFTER BAD NEWS WAS COMING.

MY WHOLE FAMILY, FROM MY MOTHER TO MY SISTER

TO MY COUSINS, MY AUNTIES.

I MEAN, THE WHOLE FAMILY --

I MEAN, WE TOOK OVER THE WAITING ROOM.

WE'VE ALL PRAYED.

I'VE EVEN MET THESE TWO KIND STRANGERS OVER THERE,

AND THEY'RE EVEN PRAYING.

PEOPLE WERE CAMPED OUT THERE CONSTANTLY.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LEAVING.

IS THERE ANYTHING TOO HARD FOR THE LORD?

I JUST KEPT PRAYING THAT HE WOULD JUST KEEP FIGHTING,

AND ALL WE HAD WAS PRAYER.

WE NEED YOU, DEAR LORD, WE NEED YOU.

WE PRAYED IN THE WAITING AREA.

I MEAN, IT WAS LIKE A CONSTANT PRAYER VIGIL.

WE ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE SPIRIT OF SERENITY AND JUST CALM US.

WE AFRAID RIGHT NOW, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOUR WILL BE DONE.

IT'S GONNA BE ALL RIGHT, HEAVENLY FATHER.

I AM STRONG IN FAITH, GIVING GLORY TO GOD.

YES, LORD. YES, GOD.

AND I FULLY PERSUADE YOU, LORD JESUS.

WE WOULD JOIN HANDS.

I MEAN, IT WAS SOME... I MEAN, YOU HAD TO BE THERE

TO UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF DEEP SOUL PRAYING

WITH CONVICTION THAT WAS GOING ON.

MRS. VEAL?

WE...TRIED FOR 45 MINUTES, TRIED TO RESUSCITATE HIM.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M SORRY.

OH, MY GOD. OH, MY GOD.

THE DOCTOR SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, LIKE,

YOU COULD JUST ABOUT SAY YOUR GOOD-BYES.

WAKE ME UP!

HE HAD CODED FOR LIKE 45 MINUTES.

SO, FOR SOMEONE TO BE UNRESPONSIVE

AND CLINICALLY DEAD FOR 45 MINUTES?

I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH A WRAP IN ANY SITUATION.

Debbie: TALK TO ME!

I WAS GONNA RUN DOWN THE STREET TO THE PAY PHONE AND CALL 911.

WHEN I GOT TO THE BACK DOOR,

THAT'S WHEN I HEARD A VOICE TELL ME TO STOP.

"CALM DOWN. STOP."

AND I DID.

[ CRIES ]

[ FLATLINE ]

Sam: THEO NEZ DIED OF A DRUG OVERDOSE.

HIS WIFE, DEBBIE, REMAINED AT HIS BEDSIDE,

AND THEO ATTRIBUTES THE FACT THAT HE IS ALIVE TO HER.

SO, WHAT DID HE LOOK LIKE WHEN YOU GAVE HIM THE BIBLE?

YOU SAY HE WAS CLUTCHING THE BIBLE.

WHAT WAS THE EXPRESSION ON HIS FACE?

NOTHING BUT PURE FEAR.

HE SAYS, "MY HEART'S GONNA STOP."

AND THAT'S WHEN I SEEN HIM DRAW HIS HEAD BACK,

AND I SAW HIM TAKE HIS LAST BREATH.

WATCHING YOUR HUSBAND TAKE HIS LAST BREATH,

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING? WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?

I WAS AFRAID. I WAS SCARED.

I...REALIZED PANIC, I KNOW.

WERE YOU SURE HE WAS DEAD? DID YOU CHECK HIS PULSE?

YEAH, I DID.

I CHECKED HIS PULSE ON HIS NECK,

AND I EVEN PUT MY HAND OVER HIS NOSE, AND THERE WAS NOTHING.

Debbie: THEO, STOP IT!

Debbie: HE EXHALED, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I KNEW HE WAS GONE.

DON'T DO THIS.

WHEN I SAW THAT HAPPEN, I JUMPED UP.

I JUMPED UP, AND THAT'S WHEN I RAN TO THE BACK DOOR.

I WAS GONNA RUN DOWN THE STREET TO THE PAY PHONE AND CALL 911.

BUT WHEN I GOT TO THE BACK DOOR,

THAT'S WHEN I HEARD A VOICE TELL ME TO STOP, CALM DOWN.

STOP. AND I DID. I STOPPED.

AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS TOLD,

"GO BACK IN THERE, AND I NEED YOU TO SIT DOWN."

SO, I WENT BACK IN THE ROOM, AND I SAT DOWN,

AND THE VOICE TOLD ME, "NOW PICK UP HIS HAND,"

WHICH I DID, AND I WAS TOLD, "START PRAYING."

[ WHISPERING ]

AND I STARTED TO PRAY.

WHO DO YOU THINK THAT VOICE WAS?

I BELIEVE IT WAS THE VOICE OF GOD.

SO, YOU NEVER QUESTIONED THIS VOICE?

YOU NEVER SECOND-GUESSED IT?

SOMEHOW, I HAD THIS TRUST IN THE VOICE,

ESPECIALLY WHEN I WAS TOLD NOT TO BE AFRAID.

SO, WHAT WERE YOU PRAYING?

I QUOTED SCRIPTURES THAT PERTAINED TO EVERY PROPHET,

EVEN JESUS HIMSELF, WHEN THEY RAISED THE DEAD.

YOU KNOW, WITH HIM AND LAZARUS AND ELIJAH.

PRETTY MUCH, I QUOTED EVERY SCRIPTURE.

WHY DID YOU NOT GIVE UP AT THIS POINT?

WELL, I HAD TWO YOUNG BOYS, YOU KNOW, THEY NEEDED THEIR DAD.

AND I HAVE A LOVE FOR MY HUSBAND THAT'S SO GREAT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE HIM.

THAT WAS MY GREATEST FEAR, LOSING HIM.

DID YOU REALLY BELIEVE

THAT PRAYING WAS GONNA ACTUALLY GONNA BRING HIM BACK?

YES, I DID. I DID BELIEVE THAT, YES.

SO THEN, WHAT HAPPENED?

HE HAS SO MANY THINGS TO DO, LORD.

Debbie: I GRABBED HIS LEFT HAND,

AND I WAS HOLDING HIS HAND, AND I STARTED TO PRAY.

THE LAST THING I REMEMBER SAYING WAS,

"WHATEVER YOU ASK IN MY NAME, I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU."

IF HE WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO OPEN HIS EYES.

THAT'S WHEN I HEARD A VOICE TELL ME TO LOOK UP.

AND I LOOKED UP, AND I WAS TOLD NOT TO BE AFRAID.

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN I LOOKED AT THEO,

AND WE BOTH LOOKED AT EACH OTHER.

[ GASPING ]

OH, THEO.

I REALIZED HE WAS ALIVE.

HE WASN'T TAKEN FROM ME.

I REMEMBER JUMPING UP AND TELLING HIM,

"ARE YOU OKAY? ARE YOU OKAY?"

HE WANTED TO GET UP.

THAT'S WHEN I STOOD OVER HIM TO PULL HIM UP, TO HELP HIM UP.

I REMEMBER MOVING THE BIBLE OFF TO THE SIDE,

AND THAT'S WHEN I SEEN THE SCAB

RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS CHEST.

AND I ASKED HIM, "DID YOU NOTICE WHAT WAS THERE?"

AND HE SAW IT, TOO, HE SAID HE WAS ALL SORE.

HIS CHEST AND PRETTY MUCH THE WHOLE FRONT PART OF HIS BODY

WAS LIKE A MUSCLE ACHE.

I GOT A SECOND CHANCE.

[ SOBBING ]

HE ROLLED OFF THE BED, HE GOT ON HIS KNEES,

AND HE WAS PRAYING UNTIL THE SUN CAME UP.

[ Crying ] I'LL KEEP MY PROMISE. THANK YOU, JESUS.

I REMEMBER WHEN ALL THIS HAPPENED, I STARTED PRAYING.

I LOOKED AT THE TIME,

AND IT WAS A LITTLE AFTER 10:00 WHEN IT HAPPENED.

BUT WHEN HE WOKE UP FROM IT,

HE REALIZED IT WAS AFTER 2:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING.

THANK YOU, I WILL BE A BETTER MAN.

SO, YOU STAYED CONSISTENTLY PRAYING

FOR FOUR HOURS OVER YOUR DEAD HUSBAND?

YES, I DID.

HAD HE NOT WAKEN UP, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK

YOU WOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO KEEP PRAYING?

WHEN GOD TELLS YOU SOMETHING, YOU HAVE TO TRUST HIM.

YOU KNOW, MAN WILL HAVE THEIR OWN UNDERSTANDING.

MAN WILL HAVE LIMITS.

MAN WILL HAVE DEADLINES.

BUT WITH GOD, THERE IS NO LIMITS.

THERE IS NO DEADLINE.

IF HE TOLD ME TO PRAY ALL NIGHT,

THEN THAT'S WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE.

DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT, AT ANY TIME,

TO TAKE HIM TO THE HOSPITAL, GET HIM CHECKED OUT,

KNOWING THAT HE JUST DIED AND CAME BACK TO LIFE?

NO.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT WHEN GOD HEALS YOU,

YOU DON'T QUESTION IT.

YOU DON'T GO BACK AND TRY TO FIND ANSWERS.

YOU KNOW WHEN GOD SAYS, "I'M GONNA DO SOMETHING,"

HE'LL DO IT. YOU DON'T QUESTION IT.

ONCE IT'S DONE, YOU LEAVE IT ALONE.

Sam: SIMILAR TO OTHER CASES, DEBBIE AND THEO SEEM TO HAVE

A CONNECTION THROUGH ANOTHER WORLD.

WAS THIS CONNECTION ALWAYS PRESENT?

HAS THEO CHANGED HIS WAYS FOR GOOD?

THEO, TELL ME, HOW DID THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE

CHANGE YOUR LIFE?

WELL, IT TOTALLY CHANGED ME.

I TURNED MY LIFE AROUND.

TAUGHT ME A LOT OF THINGS, AND THE FIRST THING IS PROBABLY

HOW TO LOVE PEOPLE, HAVE AN ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE.

I LOOK AT LIFE A WHOLE DIFFERENT WAY NOW.

DEBBIE, HOW DID IT HAVE AN IMPACT ON YOU?

I'M JUST THANKFUL THAT MY HUSBAND'S HERE.

OUR LIVES HAVE CHANGED, AND I'M THANKFUL THAT, YOU KNOW,

GOD GAVE ME BACK SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW,

I CAN NEVER LIVE WITHOUT 'CAUSE I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT HIM.

Debbie: WE HAVE THAT RIGHT TO QUESTION GOD, WHY DID THIS HAPPEN?

MAYBE IT'S GOD'S WAY OF TRYING TO TELL US,

"WAKE UP. STOP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WAKE UP."

Theo: DEATH IS NOT THE END.

IT'S ONLY THE BEGINNING.

Sam: THE FACT THAT DEBBIE NEVER CALLED FOR HELP

AND REMAINED BY HER HUSBAND'S SIDE FOR OVER FOUR HOURS

IS UNHEARD OF.

IF THEO WAS DEAD FOR THAT ENTIRE TIME,

HIS ORGANS SHOULD HAVE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE.

THIS CASE IS A MEDICAL ANOMALY.

I JUST SAID, "HE'S TOO MUCH OF A FIGHTER TO GIVE UP LIKE THIS."

I HAD NO OTHER WAY TO GO.

I COULDN'T CALL ON ANYBODY ELSE.

I TURNED TO THE MOST HIGH.

PLEASE, GOD!

[ FLATLINE ]

Rodger: ARTHUR VEAL DIED ON THE OPERATING TABLE

DUE TO HEART FAILURE.

[ FLATLINE ]

HIS GRANDSON SEAN IS CREDITED WITH SAVING ARTHUR'S LIFE.

SO, YOU WERE TOLD YOUR GRANDFATHER WAS DEAD.

YES.

Sean: I REMEMBER ONE OF THE DOCTORS TELLING US

THAT IT WAS GONNA TAKE A MIRACLE FOR HIM TO COME BACK.

SO, WE ASKED GOD FOR A MIRACLE.

AND YOU DECIDED TO GO BACK IN THE ROOM

TO TRY TO BRING HIM BACK TO LIFE.

YES. THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

I WENT TO HIS BEDSIDE.

I JUST SAID, "HE'S TOO MUCH OF A FIGHTER TO GIVE UP LIKE THIS,"

AND "YOU'VE COME THROUGH TOO MANY THINGS, TOO MANY HARDSHIPS

TO LET THIS BE THE END."

I SAID, "I KNOW THERE HAS TO BE MORE TO THIS LIFE THAN THIS."

AND I HAD NO OTHER WAY TO GO.

I COULDN'T CALL ON ANYBODY ELSE.

I TURNED TO THE MOST HIGH.

PLEASE, GOD!

I TOOK MY INDEX FINGER,

AND I STUCK IT DOWN IN BETWEEN HIS LEFT HAND.

COME ON, GRANDPA.

I JUST ASKED GOD THAT, WHEN I SPEAK HIS NAME,

LET HIM RESPOND TO THE SOUND OF MY VOICE.

LET HIM MOVE WHEN I COMMAND HIM TO MOVE.

AND I SAID, "IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE GIVE ME A SIGN."

IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, PLEASE GIVE ME A SIGN.

AND HE TOOK HIS HAND, AND HE SQUEEZED MY FINGER.

AND THEN I SAID, "MOVE YOUR FOOT."

AND HE MOVED HIS FOOT.

NURSE! NURSE!

SO, THERE WAS A NURSE OR SOMEONE.

SHE WAS WALKING OUT OF THE ROOM, AND I CALLED TO HER.

I SAID, "HE'S MOVING, HE'S MOVING, HE'S RESPONSIVE."

THOSE ARE JUST POSTMORTEM MUSCLE REFLEXES, SIR.

THEY HAPPEN QUITE OFTEN AFTER DEATH. I'M SORRY.

I SAID, "TURN AROUND AND LOOK."

HE'S MOVING.

AND THEN SHE TURNED AROUND AND LOOKED.

THEY SEEN HE WAS BEING RESPONSIVE AGAIN.

DOCTOR!

AND THEY CAME BACK IN AND STARTED WORKING ON HIM.

I HAVE A PULSE! LET'S GET HIM INTO EMERGENCY SURGERY!

HEY, HEY, HEY, HEY!

I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO RUN OUT INTO THE WAITING ROOM

AND TELL THEM THAT HE'S MOVING, HE'S RESPONDING TO MY VOICE.

I WAS OVERJOYED.

I WAS THERE.

I KNEW THAT HE STILL WASN'T OUT THE WOODS YET,

BUT SLOWLY BUT SURELY,

THEY WAS TAKING MACHINES AWAY DAILY, YOU KNOW?

SOMETHING ELSE WOULD COME BACK AND START WORKING,

AND A MACHINE WOULD COME AWAY, AND A MACHINE WOULD COME AWAY.

GOT DOWN TO THE POINT OF HAVING JUST ONE MACHINE.

YOU KNOW, AND I EVEN HEARD THE DOCTORS

PROFESSING THAT IT WAS A MIRACLE.

MR. VEAL?

HI, HOW ARE YOU FEELING?

NOW, DOCTORS WORK ON SCIENCE, MEDICAL TERMINOLOGY,

AND ALL THOSE THINGS OF THE SORT.

BUT TO HEAR A DOCTOR PROFESS OUT OF THEY MOUTH

THAT IT'S A MIRACLE?

GOD.

WHAT DID YOU FEEL?

COULD YOU FEEL A POWER IN THE ROOM?

I FELT POWER ALL AROUND ME, TO BE TRUTHFUL WITH YOU.

WAS IT LIKE ELECTRICITY OR ENERGY? DESCRIBE THAT.

IT'S ALMOST UNDESCRIBABLE.

I MEAN, I WOULD HOPE NOBODY HAS TO BE IN THAT SITUATION,

BUT IF YOU EVER WERE IN THAT SITUATION,

IT'S JUST MIRACULOUS.

IT CHOKES ME UP TO EVEN TALK ABOUT IT.

IT'S HARD TO TALK ABOUT IT,

BUT I'M JUST SO THANKFUL TO GOD THAT HE ANSWERED MY PRAYERS.

Rodger: BOTH ARTHUR AND SEAN TRULY BELIEVE

THEY HAVE BEEN TOUCHED BY THE AFTERLIFE.

ARTHUR'S FORMER LIFE AS A CRIMINAL IS OVER,

AND HE HAS HIS GRANDSON TO THANK FOR THAT.

AS AN ORDAINED MINISTER, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE CONNECTION

BETWEEN RELIGION AND RESURRECTION.

WOULD ARTHUR STILL BE HERE

WITHOUT THE FAITH OF HIS GRANDSON?

KNOWING ARTHUR'S PAST, IS RELIGION EVEN A FACTOR?

ARTHUR'S DESCRIBING HIS AFTERLIFE EXPERIENCE,

AND HE'S DESCRIBING SHEOL TO ME.

SHEOL IS THE LAND OF THE DEAD, THE LAND OF SILENCE,

WHERE THE RIGHTEOUS AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS GO

TO AWAIT JUDGMENT.

THAT'S WHERE HE WENT.

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[ FLATLINE ]

Rodger: ARTHUR VEAL DIED

FROM COMPLICATIONS DURING HEART SURGERY

AND HAD NO OXYGEN FLOWING TO HIS BRAIN FOR OVER 45 MINUTES.

HIS GRANDSON SEAN CONTINUED TO PRAY

AND EVENTUALLY HELD HIS GRANDFATHER'S HAND

WHILE PLEADING WITH GOD.

PLEASE, GOD!

ARTHUR REGAINED CONSCIOUSNESS

AND HAS NO BRAIN DAMAGE FROM THE LACK OF OXYGEN.

DID SEAN'S INTERVENTION BRING HIS GRANDFATHER BACK?

DID ARTHUR'S AFTERLIFE EXPERIENCE

REFLECT THE LIFE HE USED TO LEAD?

SO, YOU TWO HAD QUITE AN AMAZING THING HAPPEN TO YOU.

HOW DID THIS EXPERIENCE CHANGE YOUR LIVES?

WELL, IN THE MIRACLES YOU THINK YOU DON'T SEE,

YOU SEE EVERY DAY.

AND YOU LEARN TO APPRECIATE LIFE MORE.

NOBODY WANTS TO DIE,

BUT IF YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE RIGHT,

YOU SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID TO DIE.

'CAUSE I DID THINGS THAT AFFECT OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES,

AND I KNEW IT.

THEN IT WAS JUST, GET THE MONEY, GET THE MONEY.

GOD SAW SOMETHING IN ME THAT WAS REDEEMABLE.

DOES THIS WHOLE EXPERIENCE

MAKE YOU BOTH BELIEVE RESURRECTION IS POSSIBLE?

MOST DEFINITELY. NO DOUBT.

I SAW IT.

NO DOUBT.

ANY TIME THAT YOU ALMOST LOSE A LOVED ONE,

AND GOD DEEMS YOU TO HAVE THEM WITH YOU FOR MORE TIME,

ANYBODY SHOULD HAVE A GREATER APPRECIATION.

WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE PEOPLE

THAT THINK RESURRECTION IS IMPOSSIBLE?

WHAT WORDS DO YOU HAVE FOR THEM?

I DON'T TRY TO CONVERT PEOPLE.

I TELL THEM WHAT I EXPERIENCED,

AND THEY USE IT AS THEY WANT TO USE IT.

Johnny: SO, SAM, THIS THEO NEZ CASE,

WHAT IS THE KEY TO RESURRECTION IN THIS CASE?

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT WAS HIS WIFE'S PRAYERS.

I MEAN, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEO PLAYED A PART

IN COMING BACK MORE THAN HIS WIFE.

I MEAN, EVEN GOD HIMSELF TOLD THEO

TO LISTEN TO HIS WIFE PRAYING WHILE HE WAS IN HELL.

"IT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR WIFE'S PRAYERS,

I'M GIVING YOU A SECOND CHANCE TO GO AND DO MY WORK."

SO, IT'S THE POWER OF PRAYER.

YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE CASE --

A MAN WHO DIED IN DISOBEDIENCE GET A SECOND CHANCE.

AND NOW HE'S ALIVE AND LIVING IN OBEDIENCE

AND SHARING A MESSAGE OF COMING BACK TO LIFE.

Jesse: RODGER, ARTHUR VEAL.

SITTING DOWN WITH ARTHUR WAS INCREDIBLE.

THIS GUY -- COMPLETE TRANSFORMATION.

WHAT HE SAW CHANGED HIS LIFE RADICALLY.

HE WAS INVOLVED IN A MAJOR CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE.

HE WAS A TRUE ENTREPRENEUR.

OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, HE SAYS,

"I WOULD RATHER LIVE ON THE STREET,

SLEEPING ON THE STREET AS A HOMELESS MAN

THAN MAKE THAT MUCH MONEY A WEEK

IF I HAD TO GIVE UP THE PEACE OF MIND I NOW HAVE."

WOW. THAT TO ME WAS

THE MOST INCREDIBLE THING ABOUT THIS CASE.

SEAN, HIS GRANDSON, HE DID NOT GIVE UP ON HIS GRANDFATHER.

EVEN WHEN EVERYBODY -- ALL THE DOCTORS, ALL THE NURSES,

"HE'S DEAD," SEAN GOES INTO THE ROOM -- BAM.

THE POWER, MAN, THE POWER THAT HE FELT, INCREDIBLE.

THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS OUT OF THIS STORY.

TWO THINGS OUT OF THIS CASE THAT I FIND THE MOST FASCINATING.

BUT WHAT WAS YOUR MAIN TAKEAWAY?

ARTHUR'S DESCRIBING HIS AFTERLIFE EXPERIENCE,

AND HE'S SITTING THERE, AND HE'S DESCRIBING SHEOL TO ME,

ANCIENT HEBREW TEXT AND THE OLD TESTAMENT.

SHEOL IS THE LAND OF THE DEAD, THE LAND BELOW.

IT'S DIVIDED INTO TWO SIDES.

YOU HAVE THE RIGHTEOUS SIDE AND THE UNRIGHTEOUS SIDE.

THEY'RE BOTH AWAITING FINAL JUDGMENT.

THEY'RE DIVIDED BY THIS RIVER OF SOULS.

THAT'S WHERE HE WENT.

COMING FROM A MAN WHO KNEW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT.

THAT'S GREAT. YEAH.

WOW.

BOTH OF THESE CASES SHARE A COMMON THREAD.

WE HAVE THE POWER OF THE RIGHT HAND.

SO, WE HAVE SEAN.

SEAN STOOD ON ARTHUR'S LEFT SIDE

AND STUCK HIS RIGHT FINGER INTO HIS GRANDPA'S LEFT HAND.

WE HAVE DEBBIE, WHO HELD ONTO THEO WITH HER RIGHT HAND.

THIS IS AN AMAZING COMMONALITY BETWEEN BOTH CASES.

RIGHT HAND IS THE POWER HAND. IT'S THE HAND OF BLESSING.

YEAH, I MEAN, THROUGHOUT HISTORY AND IN BIBLICAL SYMBOLISM,

THE RIGHT HAND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A SYMBOL OF POWER, AUTHORITY.

SEEING IT HERE, IT'S MORE THAN JUST A SYMBOLIC ACT.

THERE'S ACTUALLY A TRANSFERENCE OF POWER TAKEN PLACE.

BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THIS CASE,

AND THIS IS SOMETHING

THAT WE HISTORICALLY HAVE TO TAKE NOTE OF.

AND I CAN PERSONALLY TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE,

WHEN I PRAY FOR PEOPLE

WITH MY LEFT HAND VERSUS MY RIGHT HAND,

I HAVE A LOT BETTER RESULTS WITH MY RIGHT HAND.

THE OTHER THING THAT I SAW WAS BOTH MEN

COULD NOT SEE THIS FACE OF JESUS.

BOTH CAME FROM KIND OF A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND.

THEY WERE KIND OF BAD MEN BEFORE,

AND THEN THERE'S THIS ASPECT OF TRANSFORMATION THAT TOOK PLACE.

Jesse: FAITH IS UNIVERSAL. WELL, SO IS HOPE.

HOPE IS UNIVERSAL, OKAY?

AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOVED ONE PASSING AWAY,

THERE IS NOTHING THAT FEELS SO OPPRESSIVE AND HEAVY

AND HOPELESS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD,

THAN THAT MOMENT WHEN YOU REALIZE

THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY HELPLESS TO DO ANYTHING.

I FEEL LIKE CHRISTIANITY HAS HIJACKED THIS TERM OF FAITH,

AND NOW IT MEANS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY RELIGIOUS.

FAITH IS JUST SIMPLY BELIEVING FOR SOMETHING YOU CAN'T SEE.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO CARRY

A CERTAIN SET OF BELIEFS

IN ORDER TO SEE SOME KIND OF RESULT,

YOU JUST NEED TO BELIEVE FOR IT.

WE'VE UNCOVERED SOME FASCINATING INFORMATION

FROM THESE CASES.

OBVIOUSLY, WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS.

WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT ANSWERS,

AND THERE'S EVEN MORE TRUTH OUT THERE TO UNCOVER.