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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,220 --> 00:00:09,059 with us on beyond belief is David 2 00:00:07,109 --> 00:00:12,179 Weatherly David is a paranormal 3 00:00:09,059 --> 00:00:15,690 investigator and also the author of the 4 00:00:12,179 --> 00:00:18,210 black-eyed children gotta be one of the 5 00:00:15,690 --> 00:00:20,640 scariest subjects I have ever 6 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:22,710 encountered David I think it is George 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,150 I've been doing this a lot of years you 8 00:00:22,710 --> 00:00:27,689 know I started pursuing these things in 9 00:00:24,150 --> 00:00:29,098 the 70s and it's hands-down one of the 10 00:00:27,689 --> 00:00:31,019 creepiest things I've ever investigate 11 00:00:29,099 --> 00:00:34,200 extremely extremely how did this come to 12 00:00:31,019 --> 00:00:36,210 you the story you know in the 90s with 13 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,829 the advent of the internet I started 14 00:00:36,210 --> 00:00:40,290 hearing some of these stories I always 15 00:00:37,829 --> 00:00:42,570 keep up on any kind of strange 16 00:00:40,290 --> 00:00:43,890 paranormal events ancient mysteries are 17 00:00:42,570 --> 00:00:45,180 all those types of things so the 18 00:00:43,890 --> 00:00:47,039 Internet of course do a lot of people 19 00:00:45,180 --> 00:00:48,570 like us was a real blessing you know 20 00:00:47,039 --> 00:00:51,480 because all of a sudden a flood of 21 00:00:48,570 --> 00:00:54,059 information along with that came some 22 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:56,760 real questionable stories so I started 23 00:00:54,059 --> 00:00:58,828 hearing these accounts and thought this 24 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,780 is pretty interesting it's a strange 25 00:00:58,829 --> 00:01:02,520 twist it could be an urban legend it 26 00:01:00,780 --> 00:01:06,180 could be that there's something more to 27 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:07,500 it but then I started meeting people who 28 00:01:06,180 --> 00:01:11,729 told me they had encountered these 29 00:01:07,500 --> 00:01:13,409 things and sitting down and interviewing 30 00:01:11,729 --> 00:01:15,298 someone who's had an encounter with 31 00:01:13,409 --> 00:01:17,430 these kids it's like working with a 32 00:01:15,299 --> 00:01:19,229 trauma victim oh it's unbelievable you 33 00:01:17,430 --> 00:01:21,930 know what we just saw was just a small 34 00:01:19,229 --> 00:01:24,658 representative part portion of what's 35 00:01:21,930 --> 00:01:26,130 out there that is scary stuff so let's 36 00:01:24,659 --> 00:01:29,100 go back just a little bit let's talk 37 00:01:26,130 --> 00:01:31,170 about the evil eye first of all what is 38 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:32,669 that George I actually brought you a 39 00:01:31,170 --> 00:01:36,420 little gift from some of my recent 40 00:01:32,670 --> 00:01:43,560 travel depressing now this is called a 41 00:01:36,420 --> 00:01:48,750 nazar and this was made in Turkey I got 42 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:50,250 it in Italy from a Syrian aha now I say 43 00:01:48,750 --> 00:01:52,920 that just the sort of illustrate at that 44 00:01:50,250 --> 00:01:56,610 point the evil eye is the most 45 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:59,820 widespread superstition can I take this 46 00:01:56,610 --> 00:02:01,890 on a plane later absolutely you can take 47 00:01:59,820 --> 00:02:04,979 it you can wear you can carry it you can 48 00:02:01,890 --> 00:02:06,869 hang it in your office or a studio the 49 00:02:04,979 --> 00:02:09,660 idea is that it Ward's off the evil eye 50 00:02:06,869 --> 00:02:11,430 it Ward's off the words also that's good 51 00:02:09,660 --> 00:02:13,680 stuff yes that's good stuff it's 52 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:15,780 considered a primary protection 53 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:17,400 the most widespread protection you get a 54 00:02:15,780 --> 00:02:21,150 Europe the Mediterranean you see this 55 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,740 emblem painted on boats hanging in shop 56 00:02:21,150 --> 00:02:25,140 windows in taxicabs 57 00:02:22,740 --> 00:02:27,270 I love personally everywhere and it 58 00:02:25,140 --> 00:02:29,730 literally is us all over the world this 59 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:32,250 the belief in this evil eye and it's the 60 00:02:29,730 --> 00:02:35,310 idea that negative energy can be 61 00:02:32,250 --> 00:02:38,520 transmitted through the eyes and onto a 62 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:40,770 person this goes way back it goes to the 63 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,750 soul that's right that's right goes way 64 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:45,570 back in history in fact one of the 65 00:02:42,750 --> 00:02:47,730 Pope's Pope Pius the 4th they considered 66 00:02:45,570 --> 00:02:49,290 him to have the evil eye and people were 67 00:02:47,730 --> 00:02:51,600 literally afraid to make eye contact 68 00:02:49,290 --> 00:02:55,140 with the Pope not good to be a Pope 69 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:57,420 right at that time so yeah very 70 00:02:55,140 --> 00:02:59,850 widespread belief and it's interesting 71 00:02:57,420 --> 00:03:02,488 you know I started digging into that a 72 00:02:59,850 --> 00:03:04,170 little bit more after investigating all 73 00:03:02,489 --> 00:03:08,670 these weird black-eyed kid encounters 74 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:10,079 because the black-eyed kids one of the 75 00:03:08,670 --> 00:03:12,600 things I set out to do when I started 76 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:17,400 investigating this was I wanted to find 77 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:18,570 out if this predated television internet 78 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,370 anything that could make it a 79 00:03:18,570 --> 00:03:22,230 contemporary urban legend sure because 80 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:24,690 even now good point a lot of people 81 00:03:22,230 --> 00:03:27,929 still believe oh this is a modern modern 82 00:03:24,690 --> 00:03:32,549 thing someone made it up because the the 83 00:03:27,930 --> 00:03:34,440 most famous account appeared in 97 from 84 00:03:32,549 --> 00:03:35,940 a Texas journalist named Brian Bethel 85 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:39,299 had a personal encounter with these 86 00:03:35,940 --> 00:03:42,540 things posted it on the Internet the 87 00:03:39,299 --> 00:03:45,350 term black eye kid shows up during that 88 00:03:42,540 --> 00:03:47,760 those accounts and that's what stopped 89 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:49,799 so I found that when I started probing 90 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,380 into these things that you had to 91 00:03:49,799 --> 00:03:55,079 discard that term and start looking for 92 00:03:52,380 --> 00:03:58,170 the same parameters around these 93 00:03:55,079 --> 00:03:59,820 accounts and that's when old cases 94 00:03:58,170 --> 00:04:02,070 started showing up and there's still 95 00:03:59,820 --> 00:04:03,959 constantly how more my case how far back 96 00:04:02,070 --> 00:04:05,850 have you been able to go well I had a 97 00:04:03,959 --> 00:04:10,019 really fascinating account from the 98 00:04:05,850 --> 00:04:13,470 1950s early 1900s a story really strange 99 00:04:10,019 --> 00:04:15,690 encounter young man rural area very 100 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:18,959 simple people this young man is walking 101 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:21,200 home and he's literally walking down the 102 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,270 dirt lane that leads to his house and he 103 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:26,099 sees this young boy leaning against a 104 00:04:24,270 --> 00:04:26,969 fence post now he doesn't know this boy 105 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:30,180 no 106 00:04:26,970 --> 00:04:33,750 everyone in the community and he stops 107 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:36,210 and starts talking to him and little kid 108 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:40,140 yeah he was you know 810 years old so 109 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:42,870 I'm on that ramp so this young man stops 110 00:04:40,140 --> 00:04:45,120 and starts talking to this kid and says 111 00:04:42,870 --> 00:04:47,550 hey what you doing out here and you know 112 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:50,610 things like that just normal country 113 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:52,260 terms sure this kid who's kind of 114 00:04:50,610 --> 00:04:55,440 leaning with his head down like this 115 00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:59,130 against the post suddenly what's up with 116 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:02,070 this young man solid bike guys and says 117 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:11,150 I don't want to go to your house you 118 00:05:02,070 --> 00:05:16,530 take me up to your house just yeah he 119 00:05:11,150 --> 00:05:19,710 Hill he immediately feels terrified and 120 00:05:16,530 --> 00:05:21,510 he's thinking he's only thinking how 121 00:05:19,710 --> 00:05:25,620 fast can I run up the lane and get home 122 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:28,320 yeah has if this black eye child as red 123 00:05:25,620 --> 00:05:30,590 as mine he immediately responds says 124 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,790 don't you run away from me 125 00:05:30,590 --> 00:05:33,659 you're gonna take me up to your house 126 00:05:32,790 --> 00:05:37,620 that's freaky 127 00:05:33,660 --> 00:05:39,630 so this gentleman by all accounts broke 128 00:05:37,620 --> 00:05:41,460 every speed record he'd ever made making 129 00:05:39,630 --> 00:05:44,669 it to his door isn't it interesting how 130 00:05:41,460 --> 00:05:47,760 adults fear a little eight-year-old 131 00:05:44,669 --> 00:05:48,780 right well squirt right but there's much 132 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:51,570 more going on here 133 00:05:48,780 --> 00:05:53,429 ya know this this particular case this 134 00:05:51,570 --> 00:05:55,260 gentleman he you know he he burst into 135 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:58,320 his home his mother and father there and 136 00:05:55,260 --> 00:05:59,550 and they're saying you know what's why 137 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,450 are you tearing in hearing like that 138 00:05:59,550 --> 00:06:05,370 what's happened he blurts out the story 139 00:06:02,450 --> 00:06:06,930 their immediate response oh I should add 140 00:06:05,370 --> 00:06:09,390 one more thing has he's running away 141 00:06:06,930 --> 00:06:12,110 from this child he here's what he 142 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:16,890 describes has the scream of a bobcat 143 00:06:12,110 --> 00:06:18,240 coming from this child behind him which 144 00:06:16,890 --> 00:06:21,030 of course compels him to run all the 145 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,910 faster right so you know his parents 146 00:06:21,030 --> 00:06:25,859 hear this story and bear in mind the 147 00:06:23,910 --> 00:06:28,830 term black eyed child has never used by 148 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:32,250 that kid is now used their immediate 149 00:06:28,830 --> 00:06:35,820 responses you've met the devil we're 150 00:06:32,250 --> 00:06:39,090 taking you down to the preacher so you 151 00:06:35,820 --> 00:06:41,520 know here we have the cultural 152 00:06:39,090 --> 00:06:43,888 lenz of the time period and the people 153 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:46,620 right identifying this as best as they 154 00:06:43,889 --> 00:06:48,540 can so their interpretation is Douglas 155 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:49,470 is the devil you know this is the evil 156 00:06:48,540 --> 00:06:52,530 you've met the devil at the crossroads 157 00:06:49,470 --> 00:06:55,320 or on on the road and the shape of a 158 00:06:52,530 --> 00:06:57,659 little boy in the shape of a boy and the 159 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:01,830 idea which shows up a lot in demonology 160 00:06:57,660 --> 00:07:04,080 that anything demonic can't fully take 161 00:07:01,830 --> 00:07:06,120 human form something has to be distorted 162 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:07,800 whether it's a hand or a foot or the 163 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,830 eyes or the eyes 164 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:14,220 so David exactly what are black-eyed 165 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:16,710 children you know George despite all the 166 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:18,690 investigation and other people aside 167 00:07:16,710 --> 00:07:21,030 from me investigating these things the 168 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:24,180 juries sort of out on exactly what they 169 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:26,309 are now we can look at a lot of 170 00:07:24,180 --> 00:07:28,740 identifying traits in these encounters 171 00:07:26,310 --> 00:07:31,440 first of all of course the solid black 172 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:31,979 eyes no White's no pupils nothing which 173 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,530 is weird 174 00:07:31,979 --> 00:07:36,060 biologically weird as biologically weird 175 00:07:34,530 --> 00:07:37,080 and and of course you know physicians 176 00:07:36,060 --> 00:07:39,570 will tell you that if someone had a 177 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:42,419 solid black eye that they would be blind 178 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:43,919 a hot essentially might represent some 179 00:07:42,419 --> 00:07:44,190 kind of head trauma or something like 180 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:46,560 that 181 00:07:44,190 --> 00:07:49,500 now there are other traits that show up 182 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:52,500 - most people say that these kids have 183 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:54,860 pale or pasty skin some people say it 184 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:57,120 looks artificial like a covering 185 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:58,620 possibly sort of harkens back to men in 186 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,020 black cases you know a lot of people 187 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:03,090 describe them as having pasty skin that 188 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:04,139 doesn't look natural and you hear that a 189 00:08:03,090 --> 00:08:07,380 lot with these kids 190 00:08:04,139 --> 00:08:09,780 the age range usually falls somewhere 191 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:13,409 between eight and twelve years old is 192 00:08:09,780 --> 00:08:17,010 what the most common accounts say you 193 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:18,539 see a little bit outside of that even 194 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:21,030 now there are some black eyed adults 195 00:08:18,539 --> 00:08:23,099 that have started showing up but other 196 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:26,669 traits are a very monotone way of 197 00:08:23,099 --> 00:08:28,409 speaking unusual request you know 198 00:08:26,669 --> 00:08:30,750 they'll show up at a stranger's door and 199 00:08:28,410 --> 00:08:34,200 they'll say we just thought would come 200 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:36,208 in for a while like like they're invited 201 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,070 exactly exactly in fact that you know 202 00:08:36,208 --> 00:08:39,929 here's here's a typical encounter for 203 00:08:38,070 --> 00:08:42,390 people who aren't really that familiar 204 00:08:39,929 --> 00:08:44,670 with these things guy comes home from 205 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:47,010 work you know it's early evening he's in 206 00:08:44,670 --> 00:08:51,260 the kitchen making a sandwich or opening 207 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:52,930 a beer or something and then it starts a 208 00:08:51,260 --> 00:08:57,220 deliberate knock 209 00:08:52,930 --> 00:09:00,370 and it doesn't stop it's monotonous you 210 00:08:57,220 --> 00:09:02,710 know most people would just go right if 211 00:09:00,370 --> 00:09:04,060 they might you know imagine yourself in 212 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:06,130 that position you know your first 213 00:09:04,060 --> 00:09:08,109 thought probably is why aren't they 214 00:09:06,130 --> 00:09:10,480 using the doorbell yeah you know and 215 00:09:08,110 --> 00:09:13,870 here and why won't they stop mocking go 216 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:17,520 to the door open it anywhere from one to 217 00:09:13,870 --> 00:09:19,930 three kids eight ten twelve years old 218 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,720 standing outside of your door looking up 219 00:09:19,930 --> 00:09:25,150 at you well almost always they're 220 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:30,730 standing like this head sort of little 221 00:09:25,150 --> 00:09:32,650 person rise right initial ah everyone 222 00:09:30,730 --> 00:09:35,200 virtually everyone I've interviewed they 223 00:09:32,650 --> 00:09:37,930 go through about three stages with these 224 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,540 encounters they open the door and first 225 00:09:37,930 --> 00:09:41,709 see the kids and they just have this 226 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:43,060 feeling that something's not quite right 227 00:09:41,710 --> 00:09:45,610 right you know they've never seen these 228 00:09:43,060 --> 00:09:47,619 children before a lot of times these 229 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:49,540 happen in in our neighborhoods where 230 00:09:47,620 --> 00:09:53,430 people know everyone who lives in their 231 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:57,969 community so there's a slight unease 232 00:09:53,430 --> 00:10:00,040 that starts to increase dramatically 233 00:09:57,970 --> 00:10:03,490 when these children start talking 234 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,709 because these monotone phrases start 235 00:10:03,490 --> 00:10:06,089 coming out and and they're weird you 236 00:10:05,709 --> 00:10:09,369 know 237 00:10:06,089 --> 00:10:13,709 hey it might rain you need to let us in 238 00:10:09,370 --> 00:10:18,940 for a bit out of nowhere right right so 239 00:10:13,709 --> 00:10:22,180 the unknown right the unease grows very 240 00:10:18,940 --> 00:10:23,980 quickly to outright nervousness the 241 00:10:22,180 --> 00:10:25,680 people over just slam the door while 242 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:27,670 they do because during these encounters 243 00:10:25,680 --> 00:10:29,410 inevitably what happens is that people 244 00:10:27,670 --> 00:10:31,930 try to interact with them and say things 245 00:10:29,410 --> 00:10:33,459 like I I don't know you guys or I think 246 00:10:31,930 --> 00:10:36,699 you have the wrong house you know things 247 00:10:33,459 --> 00:10:37,810 like that at some point these children 248 00:10:36,700 --> 00:10:40,390 will raise their heads and make eye 249 00:10:37,810 --> 00:10:43,209 contact and that's when the level of 250 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:44,650 fear really spikes in that's when it's 251 00:10:43,209 --> 00:10:45,939 creepy and it's just like this this is 252 00:10:44,650 --> 00:10:48,160 too much and they slam the door on these 253 00:10:45,940 --> 00:10:52,089 kids now when you open the door are they 254 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:54,219 gone gone they vanish when you reject 255 00:10:52,089 --> 00:10:58,540 them they disappear there is an account 256 00:10:54,220 --> 00:11:00,279 in the book from a police officer who 257 00:10:58,540 --> 00:11:02,650 encountered a pair of these kids a boy 258 00:11:00,279 --> 00:11:05,200 and a girl standing on the the deck of a 259 00:11:02,650 --> 00:11:06,520 house and middle of the morning it was 260 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,440 like 3:30 in the 261 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,140 called by somebody he was called 262 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,750 actually the house next door he was 263 00:11:11,140 --> 00:11:16,180 called on a domestic disturbance he went 264 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:19,930 in he settled the issue no arrests made 265 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:21,880 he's out in his patrol car happens to be 266 00:11:19,930 --> 00:11:25,449 just looking around the neighborhood as 267 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:27,490 you know a good posture will do now he 268 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:30,460 sees the house next door which has a 269 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:33,130 deck he sees his two young kids standing 270 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:35,170 on this deck and he's thinking why are 271 00:11:33,130 --> 00:11:38,650 these kids out here this time of the 272 00:11:35,170 --> 00:11:41,620 morning yeah so he approaches them and 273 00:11:38,650 --> 00:11:43,870 they're acting very strange of course he 274 00:11:41,620 --> 00:11:47,800 goes up the deck which has one flight of 275 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:49,810 step heads are down right he he gets a 276 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,400 good look at these kids and his first 277 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:53,859 thought is that this is an abuse 278 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,840 situation these kids have been forced 279 00:11:53,860 --> 00:11:57,640 out of the house no there's there's some 280 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,590 kind of something's maybe drug abuse 281 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,990 going on because they look very strange 282 00:11:59,590 --> 00:12:03,820 down them their eyes have dilated right 283 00:12:01,990 --> 00:12:07,510 kind of thing so he all these things are 284 00:12:03,820 --> 00:12:09,370 running through his head and he says you 285 00:12:07,510 --> 00:12:11,020 know why starts asking the normal 286 00:12:09,370 --> 00:12:14,260 questions why are you out here so forth 287 00:12:11,020 --> 00:12:16,960 they won't let us in that's what the 288 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:20,950 kids say right so they won't let this 289 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:22,600 officer of course open our door knots 290 00:12:20,950 --> 00:12:24,430 very loudly on the door and wants to 291 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:29,920 know why the parents announce law 292 00:12:24,430 --> 00:12:32,319 enforcement takes a few knots but during 293 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,599 this exchange he turns around and these 294 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,600 kids have vanished George gone now he's 295 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:40,450 up on a debt with a railing they would 296 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:42,610 have to climb the railing and leap over 297 00:12:40,450 --> 00:12:44,710 into the yard because then he was 298 00:12:42,610 --> 00:12:46,750 essentially blocking the steps where 299 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:48,160 he's standing at the door he would have 300 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:51,520 seen it he would have heard it sometimes 301 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,900 like the D material has vanished of 302 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,250 course when the person finally comes to 303 00:12:52,900 --> 00:12:57,730 the door is an older woman who has no 304 00:12:54,250 --> 00:12:59,140 cure no children that has no idea what 305 00:12:57,730 --> 00:13:01,060 he's talking about no one's come to her 306 00:12:59,140 --> 00:13:02,830 door it's just a bizarre he turns to 307 00:13:01,060 --> 00:13:04,390 look at the kids and they're gone oh and 308 00:13:02,830 --> 00:13:07,000 this this is unnerved this man for years 309 00:13:04,390 --> 00:13:09,400 and you know he's he searched of course 310 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,710 the yard and the no trees nothing for 311 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,689 them to hide behind he searches the 312 00:13:11,710 --> 00:13:14,770 neighborhood and he the last time I 313 00:13:13,690 --> 00:13:17,770 spoke with him he told me that he still 314 00:13:14,770 --> 00:13:20,050 goes back there on occasion just to see 315 00:13:17,770 --> 00:13:21,430 creepy you know if there's 316 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:23,740 kids in that neighborhood that match 317 00:13:21,430 --> 00:13:25,870 that description because it was so 318 00:13:23,740 --> 00:13:27,940 unsettling to it tell me about the 319 00:13:25,870 --> 00:13:32,230 disappearances of them so they seemed to 320 00:13:27,940 --> 00:13:36,220 appear and disappear at will it appears 321 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:37,390 that way and it's it's almost mmm it's 322 00:13:36,220 --> 00:13:39,579 almost like they go through some kind of 323 00:13:37,390 --> 00:13:41,260 portal or something because it's so 324 00:13:39,579 --> 00:13:43,000 sudden and when you have someone who's a 325 00:13:41,260 --> 00:13:46,689 trained observer like a law enforcement 326 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,790 all right who is you know his very life 327 00:13:46,690 --> 00:13:51,250 depends on him paying attention right 328 00:13:48,790 --> 00:13:53,920 listening to all the sounds and watching 329 00:13:51,250 --> 00:13:55,660 things and long enough for him to turn 330 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,649 around knock on a door and turn back and 331 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:58,870 these kids have vanished 332 00:13:56,649 --> 00:14:01,959 there's something very unnatural going 333 00:13:58,870 --> 00:14:03,459 on here obviously the request the goal 334 00:14:01,959 --> 00:14:07,540 and the mission of these black-eyed 335 00:14:03,459 --> 00:14:10,810 children is to get in the house that's 336 00:14:07,540 --> 00:14:12,730 what it appears from the request they 337 00:14:10,810 --> 00:14:16,660 want to be invited inside whether it's 338 00:14:12,730 --> 00:14:18,250 inside a home a business vehicle because 339 00:14:16,660 --> 00:14:20,589 they can't come in on the wrong it's 340 00:14:18,250 --> 00:14:21,940 doesn't appear that way which is curious 341 00:14:20,589 --> 00:14:24,850 because again here we have another 342 00:14:21,940 --> 00:14:26,800 connection to a different type of you 343 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:29,740 know paranormal or supernatural history 344 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:32,890 because traditional vampire lore of all 345 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:34,660 things says that a vampire can't be 346 00:14:32,890 --> 00:14:37,089 invited in our can't come in unless it's 347 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:38,860 invited must be invited yeah but what a 348 00:14:37,089 --> 00:14:42,040 lot of people forget is the same is true 349 00:14:38,860 --> 00:14:44,800 for demons in classical demonology a 350 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:47,890 demon can't enter whether it's a home or 351 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:50,560 a person's body unless some type of 352 00:14:47,890 --> 00:14:53,260 invitation has been issued the opening 353 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:56,439 has anyway you don't let them in they 354 00:14:53,260 --> 00:14:58,510 seem to disappear they do they did but 355 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,700 you know George after listening to so 356 00:14:58,510 --> 00:15:05,439 many people I think that a big part of 357 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:07,720 these encounters is that level of fear 358 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,480 that's created or and you get the sense 359 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,930 when you listen to these accounts over 360 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:16,899 and over again that these things appear 361 00:15:13,930 --> 00:15:20,380 just to create this incredible level of 362 00:15:16,899 --> 00:15:22,690 fear in people and it's it's as if okay 363 00:15:20,380 --> 00:15:25,269 we're done I think they're feeding on it 364 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:28,560 because its energy fear is energy has 365 00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:30,470 anybody ever reportedly let them in oh 366 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:34,010 boy 367 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:36,560 you know I get a lot of reports even now 368 00:15:34,010 --> 00:15:39,560 of people who claim to have said them in 369 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:41,150 the house and so forth and unfortunately 370 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,910 so many of them are very difficult to 371 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:45,680 follow up on now there were a handful 372 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:49,750 that I had that I investigated when I 373 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:53,420 was writing the book and one that was 374 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:54,980 just absolutely incredible I was able to 375 00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:58,400 interview the entire family it was a 376 00:15:54,980 --> 00:15:59,630 very disturbing account and that story's 377 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,860 a little bit long but I'm happy to share 378 00:15:59,630 --> 00:16:04,790 it with you hopefully if you want to 379 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:08,180 hear it so this is uh this is a young 380 00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:10,730 woman who has a child of her own she's 381 00:16:08,180 --> 00:16:13,339 driving home from work and it's a rural 382 00:16:10,730 --> 00:16:16,610 area she pulls into a convenience store 383 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:19,910 in her in her vehicle and she leaves her 384 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:22,220 child in backseat jumps out to run in 385 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:24,170 and grab you know not a grater to do not 386 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:25,670 a good thing to do good you go long bear 387 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:27,680 in mind this is this is small-town 388 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:30,380 America and you know everyone knows 389 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:32,329 everyone and this is a pattern that this 390 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,980 woman has done you know countless times 391 00:16:32,330 --> 00:16:36,770 right she won't do it anymore I can tell 392 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:38,330 you so she runs into the convenience 393 00:16:36,770 --> 00:16:42,380 store grabs her milk or bread or 394 00:16:38,330 --> 00:16:44,060 whatever she comes back out autopilot 395 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:46,189 I'm sure you know how this is George 396 00:16:44,060 --> 00:16:48,680 jumping in the vehicle tossing the bag 397 00:16:46,190 --> 00:16:51,860 in the seat turning the key looking in 398 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,079 the rearview mirror and there it is 399 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:55,640 this kid with solid black eyes looking 400 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:59,950 at her in the rearview mirror next to 401 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,949 the sitting right beside her child ah 402 00:17:00,130 --> 00:17:07,329 so this what's the baby like oh it's not 403 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:09,290 a baby it's it's it's a young boys 404 00:17:07,329 --> 00:17:11,329 memory serves me he's around 10 years 405 00:17:09,290 --> 00:17:12,829 old himself okay he's not panicking or 406 00:17:11,329 --> 00:17:14,839 screaming I mean acting completely 407 00:17:12,829 --> 00:17:17,179 normal alright but sitting right beside 408 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,159 him and it's obviously three people can 409 00:17:17,180 --> 00:17:21,320 sit in the backseat know this black eyed 410 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,690 child is right beside this point making 411 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:26,810 physical contact with him now staring in 412 00:17:23,690 --> 00:17:29,240 the rearview mirror instant panic on the 413 00:17:26,810 --> 00:17:31,460 mothers part absolutely leaps out of the 414 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:34,190 vehicle she Yanks up in the back door 415 00:17:31,460 --> 00:17:37,370 pulls her son out rushes back into the 416 00:17:34,190 --> 00:17:39,470 convenience store the clerk of course is 417 00:17:37,370 --> 00:17:40,820 is you know around the counter saying 418 00:17:39,470 --> 00:17:43,470 you know what's what's happening what's 419 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:45,090 wrong she's just sort of 420 00:17:43,470 --> 00:17:47,130 stuttering and stammering she can't even 421 00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:48,658 show I explained this is there's 422 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:52,919 basically says there's somebody in my 423 00:17:48,659 --> 00:17:56,039 vehicle clerk runs out there's the 424 00:17:52,919 --> 00:18:00,299 vehicle engine running doors open empty 425 00:17:56,039 --> 00:18:02,640 yeah nothing now 426 00:18:00,299 --> 00:18:05,030 this mother won't explain the case won't 427 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:07,620 explain what she has seen to the clerk 428 00:18:05,030 --> 00:18:09,899 she calls her husband because she's 429 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:12,209 afraid to get back in the vehicle she 430 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:14,250 says I just need you to come here you 431 00:18:12,210 --> 00:18:16,650 know to the store won't explain to him 432 00:18:14,250 --> 00:18:18,720 what's going on here husband gets there 433 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:21,720 she's still won't explain it she said 434 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:23,820 just will you drive you know let me 435 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:26,220 drive your trunk home I don't want I 436 00:18:23,820 --> 00:18:27,750 can't get back in that vehicle he's like 437 00:18:26,220 --> 00:18:30,480 okay you know we need to talk about this 438 00:18:27,750 --> 00:18:33,590 at home but all right she takes her 439 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:36,419 husband's vehicle with her son goes home 440 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:39,330 husband takes the vehicle that the 441 00:18:36,419 --> 00:18:41,370 black-eyed child was in heads home it's 442 00:18:39,330 --> 00:18:45,059 only a few miles now he's in a wreck 443 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:47,820 totals the vehicle blacks out the last 444 00:18:45,059 --> 00:18:51,389 thing he remembers in the hospital was a 445 00:18:47,820 --> 00:18:53,010 foul odor overwhelming him in the 446 00:18:51,390 --> 00:18:58,049 vehicle like the kid was still in there 447 00:18:53,010 --> 00:19:00,929 somehow all right so the other portion 448 00:18:58,049 --> 00:19:02,970 of this case is that the husband 449 00:19:00,929 --> 00:19:04,919 fortunately was was okay had some minor 450 00:19:02,970 --> 00:19:06,539 you know bumps and bruises mild 451 00:19:04,919 --> 00:19:07,370 concussion I think but they released me 452 00:19:06,539 --> 00:19:10,200 from the hospital 453 00:19:07,370 --> 00:19:12,178 the mother meanwhile is trying to 454 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:15,270 determine exactly what happened so she's 455 00:19:12,179 --> 00:19:18,350 asking her son she says what who was 456 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:21,809 that boy do you know him from school oh 457 00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:24,360 I I don't know him mommy he just asked 458 00:19:21,809 --> 00:19:27,059 if he could get in our car I thought we 459 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:29,850 could go to my house and play oh so he 460 00:19:27,059 --> 00:19:31,649 let him in he let him in he invited him 461 00:19:29,850 --> 00:19:33,120 in because he thought oh here's a 462 00:19:31,650 --> 00:19:35,520 potential playmate job but you know 463 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:39,209 George like most young kids they don't 464 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:41,250 see race religion or any physical 465 00:19:39,210 --> 00:19:44,460 difference you know a lot of times for 466 00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:46,230 kids that age it's okay you know he 467 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:48,570 looks a little different but it's maybe 468 00:19:46,230 --> 00:19:51,809 this is a friend but the disturbing side 469 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:56,460 to this account is that this young boy 470 00:19:51,809 --> 00:19:56,940 that's tenure he became ill oh really 471 00:19:56,460 --> 00:20:01,380 Harris 472 00:19:56,940 --> 00:20:04,460 him to the hospital and they you know so 473 00:20:01,380 --> 00:20:07,350 he's got these symptoms check him out 474 00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:09,330 this case stretched on and on the 475 00:20:07,350 --> 00:20:12,090 doctors could not figure out what was 476 00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:13,320 wrong with this chowsie dying no the 477 00:20:12,090 --> 00:20:15,030 reason they couldn't figure out what was 478 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,889 wrong is because every time they thought 479 00:20:15,030 --> 00:20:20,040 they hadn't diagnosed the symptoms 480 00:20:16,890 --> 00:20:24,420 changed so he broke out and they said oh 481 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:26,280 well he has the measles so they start to 482 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:27,540 prepared to treat the measles and he's 483 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,850 got something else something else 484 00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:31,440 happens they thought he had measles they 485 00:20:29,850 --> 00:20:34,439 thought he had appendicitis they thought 486 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,970 he had a flu every time it would be 487 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,830 something different you know his he 488 00:20:35,970 --> 00:20:38,580 would spike a high fever and it would go 489 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:41,159 away like that 490 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:43,409 before they can even treat it finally 491 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:46,410 the parents who of course did not tell 492 00:20:43,410 --> 00:20:49,260 the doctors about that we've seen a 493 00:20:46,410 --> 00:20:50,610 black idea they decide well we're just 494 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:52,650 going to take him home you know maybe 495 00:20:50,610 --> 00:20:54,659 it's just the flu and nursing back to 496 00:20:52,650 --> 00:20:56,690 help parents took the child home 497 00:20:54,660 --> 00:21:00,090 [Music] 498 00:20:56,690 --> 00:21:02,000 eventually call started calling in other 499 00:21:00,090 --> 00:21:03,780 friends that they could trust and and 500 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,580 essentially started a prayer circle 501 00:21:03,780 --> 00:21:08,940 around this boy that lasted for quite 502 00:21:05,580 --> 00:21:11,699 some time he fully recovered Wow and you 503 00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:13,470 know he's he's healthy and happy this 504 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:15,270 what what is your take of these 505 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:18,810 black-eyed children what do you think 506 00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:21,720 they want the effort of trying to get 507 00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:23,760 into your house to trying to be there 508 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:26,250 what do they want are they after our 509 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,480 souls what's going on here you know 510 00:21:26,250 --> 00:21:31,860 George after countless cases 511 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,570 interviewing so many people and when I 512 00:21:31,860 --> 00:21:35,429 wrote the book I was very objective 513 00:21:33,570 --> 00:21:38,399 about it I said here's you know it could 514 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:41,760 be this it could be that they have 515 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:44,880 things in common with alien hybrids with 516 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:48,570 demons with men and black in a wide 517 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:50,460 range of phenomena my personal opinion 518 00:21:48,570 --> 00:21:52,980 however is that these things are 519 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:55,440 something interdimensional I think 520 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:57,450 they're simply coming through from they 521 00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,240 come and go another level of existence 522 00:21:57,450 --> 00:22:01,620 which science is now admitting that 523 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,900 there are other reality are they in 524 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:05,879 human form on the other side I don't 525 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:09,090 more than they I don't miss yours 526 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,450 I think they take a childlike form 527 00:22:09,090 --> 00:22:12,370 because what 528 00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:15,220 a way to catch someone off-guard right 529 00:22:12,370 --> 00:22:17,100 we're hardwired has adults that if a kid 530 00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:20,110 shows up and says I need help 531 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:21,790 you know reaction isn't help you know 532 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:23,409 even if it's a kid showing up and at 533 00:22:21,790 --> 00:22:26,230 your door and saying I really need a 534 00:22:23,410 --> 00:22:29,260 drink of water mister your natural 535 00:22:26,230 --> 00:22:32,500 inclination is to help and let them in 536 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:34,690 so you're off guard yeah so I think that 537 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:37,720 whatever these entities are they're 538 00:22:34,690 --> 00:22:41,080 taking the form of a child in order to 539 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:43,510 catch people off-guard and create that 540 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,919 level of fear in people so they can feed 541 00:22:43,510 --> 00:22:49,870 on the energy why haven't think on the 542 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:51,340 distance and corrected the eyes you know 543 00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:54,580 if you're gonna tell you the shape of a 544 00:22:51,340 --> 00:22:56,230 little kid and you have that why still 545 00:22:54,580 --> 00:22:58,120 stay with black eyes there's something 546 00:22:56,230 --> 00:23:00,310 there's something weird about there is 547 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,419 something weird about it and and you 548 00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:03,250 know it's it's one of those questions 549 00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:05,950 about this mystery that would kind of 550 00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:07,720 don't know I think that I'm starting to 551 00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:10,270 see evidence for whatever these entities 552 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,150 are existing much further back in 553 00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:16,120 history and I say that because one so 554 00:23:13,150 --> 00:23:18,850 many accounts keep showing up from you 555 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,620 know the 70s the 50s the 40s of 556 00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:23,020 encounters with these beans that 557 00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:24,669 essentially fit the same paradigm then 558 00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:27,820 you've got other in settled unsettling 559 00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:29,110 things were man have you ever seen this 560 00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:31,570 they know would you tell me about this 561 00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:34,419 earth Amman is a statue found that 562 00:23:31,570 --> 00:23:39,370 Gobekli Tepe it's somewhere in the 563 00:23:34,420 --> 00:23:42,160 neighborhood of 13,000 years old but 564 00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:46,139 it's a statue of this this what they 565 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:50,560 think is a male figure that was carved 566 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:55,290 that long ago whoever did it took the 567 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:58,990 time to carve eyes out of black obsidian 568 00:23:55,290 --> 00:24:01,030 so here you have this weird statue with 569 00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:03,490 black ops 13 a half thousand years old 570 00:24:01,030 --> 00:24:05,830 with solid black eyes I've talked to a 571 00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:07,360 lot of people archaeologists like I mean 572 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:09,310 a Robert Schoch and of course Linda 573 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:11,889 Moulton Howe sure she and I had a long 574 00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:13,270 discussion about this and everyone who's 575 00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:15,820 been in the presence that this statue 576 00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:18,460 says that there's this very unsettling 577 00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:19,990 feeling about it now why does someone 13 578 00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:22,690 a half thousand years ago choose to 579 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:23,760 depict an entity with solid rock like 580 00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:26,070 that's a really 581 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,650 things unless he witnessed these or 582 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:31,169 something something to happen yes so you 583 00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:32,520 know why they don't go the distance and 584 00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:34,920 change their eyes that's a really good 585 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,990 question maybe they're not able to maybe 586 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,420 they're not able to has anybody died 587 00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:43,790 from being associated with them you know 588 00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:46,560 there are a lot of cases where people 589 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:49,080 think these things are an omen of some 590 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,899 type harbinger of something Parminder of 591 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,000 bad luck or bad fortune so you know 592 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:56,160 there are accounts of people seeing 593 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,170 these black-eyed children and then 594 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,760 having a string of bad luck which 595 00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:04,830 includes deaths and their family now I'm 596 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,760 not aware of anyone who has directly 597 00:25:04,830 --> 00:25:07,919 perished 598 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,420 you know after encountering this or has 599 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,610 a result of encountering these things 600 00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:14,460 but that's a hard thing to say hey you 601 00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:17,540 know I've had people ask me in the past 602 00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:20,910 you know dude the unsettling question is 603 00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:22,500 how many people that vanish 604 00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:24,420 maybe encountered these things and we 605 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,950 just don't know we we really don't know 606 00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:28,110 how many people have left in it I know 607 00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:30,390 what we first met at a conference years 608 00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:32,429 ago before I heads on coast to coast and 609 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:35,070 you were telling me about this I'm 610 00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:39,360 saying I've got to get this guy on this 611 00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:42,120 is unbelievable and we have a couple 612 00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:45,090 topics that just rivet people one of 613 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:47,340 course is missing people right by David 614 00:25:45,090 --> 00:25:50,040 Pilates and then you the black-eyed 615 00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:53,879 children right which freaks people out 616 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,740 David they just can't handle it I don't 617 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,870 know what I would do if I go to the door 618 00:25:55,740 --> 00:26:00,000 of my house and there are these three 619 00:25:57,870 --> 00:26:01,770 children with their heads down and then 620 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,200 they kind of look up at you and they've 621 00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:06,660 got all black eyes right that's scary 622 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,510 stuff it's it's very unsettling but you 623 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:11,580 know George I think that using the term 624 00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:14,040 paranormal just in general to include 625 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:17,490 you know UFOs and hauntings and so forth 626 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:20,870 I think anytime you add the element of 627 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:24,330 children into that spooky it's changed 628 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:26,219 yeah yeah and and it not only makes it 629 00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:29,040 creepier but it also makes it more 630 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:31,620 unsettling to us as humans it's sad you 631 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:36,879 know you can see a hardened ghost hunter 632 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:39,639 in a location you know and when a child 633 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,620 EVP shows for the spirit of a child it's 634 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,990 repeated thank you everyone it's very 635 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:46,060 different you know it's it's very 636 00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:48,250 disturbing to us at a core level that 637 00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:50,200 you know a child could be trapped in 638 00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:52,030 spirit form so you know when we 639 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,230 translate that over to these encounters 640 00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:58,810 it's very unsettling that some kind of 641 00:26:55,230 --> 00:27:02,560 negative entity is able to take the form 642 00:26:58,810 --> 00:27:05,830 of a child in order to get through you 643 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,510 know to to our emotional selves there's 644 00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:10,659 something going on yeah they want 645 00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:13,960 something because I want our souls could 646 00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:17,440 be the clip we used from the Watchers 647 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:21,220 series la Marzulli Watchers series tell 648 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:23,650 me a little bit about these kids you 649 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:25,660 know la did a fantastic job 650 00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:27,070 recreating that encounter and I tell you 651 00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:29,050 George a lot of times people will ask me 652 00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:30,250 what's the most unsettling account or 653 00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:33,820 disturbing account that you've 654 00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:35,950 personally heard and for me hands down 655 00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:40,120 it's what's depicted in that video 656 00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:43,600 here's why that account was from a young 657 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:46,989 military man who was visiting family in 658 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,639 Texas and this fellow he has family all 659 00:27:46,990 --> 00:27:50,770 over Texas he's one of those guys who 660 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,840 likes to drive you know when he when he 661 00:27:50,770 --> 00:27:55,240 has the opportunity and I'm that guy's 662 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,310 great all over the Pakistan you know and 663 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,960 I'm the guy who likes to you know get in 664 00:27:57,310 --> 00:28:01,570 the vehicle and drive late at night and 665 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,310 you know see different territory and 666 00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:09,010 different stars I'm the same way as long 667 00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:10,600 as it's 20 minutes away right he decided 668 00:28:09,010 --> 00:28:15,610 he wanted to visit a different portion 669 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:19,270 of his family hours away he's going to 670 00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:21,010 drive at night so get this trip ready 671 00:28:19,270 --> 00:28:22,540 his thermos of coffee takes off in his 672 00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:25,500 truck and he's driving under the stars 673 00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:28,420 he's in the middle of nowhere George 674 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:30,970 Collin nature hits he pulls off on the 675 00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:33,700 side of the road just you know kind of 676 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:36,310 small hills and desert and he waltz off 677 00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:38,080 the road for a little bit looking up at 678 00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:42,370 the stars it comes back after he's 679 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:46,689 finished approaches his vehicle here's 680 00:28:42,370 --> 00:28:49,060 this kit standing by his truck just puts 681 00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:50,419 his hand on the you know this just 682 00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,820 gentleman has put his hand on the door 683 00:28:50,419 --> 00:28:56,059 this drunken here is this kid I I want 684 00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:59,149 to go for a ride and with that look 685 00:28:56,059 --> 00:29:01,730 right and here's you know a hardened 686 00:28:59,149 --> 00:29:04,209 military guy you know it's like what are 687 00:29:01,730 --> 00:29:06,710 you doing out here kid 688 00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:10,369 same as these other encounters it 689 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:13,279 develops to where this kid is this same 690 00:29:10,369 --> 00:29:16,399 very simple phrase pushes hair fine this 691 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:20,019 man I want to get in your truck we can 692 00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:24,109 go for a ride now very cold very 693 00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:25,700 monotone this fellow is is you know he's 694 00:29:24,109 --> 00:29:28,460 immediately nervous he's looking around 695 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,259 because there's no houses he hasn't 696 00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:30,529 passed another vehicle and God knows how 697 00:29:30,259 --> 00:29:34,249 long 698 00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:35,809 there's there are no whites from houses 699 00:29:34,249 --> 00:29:37,340 anywhere as far as you can see he's 700 00:29:35,809 --> 00:29:40,629 wondering where you know how did this 701 00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:43,340 kid get out in the middle of nowhere so 702 00:29:40,629 --> 00:29:46,129 like these other accounts his level of 703 00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:48,619 fear spikes to the point where he jumps 704 00:29:46,129 --> 00:29:51,080 in his truck free johnsy engine and 705 00:29:48,619 --> 00:29:53,959 takes off yeah he gets a few miles down 706 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,759 the road and all the military training 707 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,210 is kicking it he's thinking wait a 708 00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,700 minute 709 00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:59,330 I you know this is disgrace this is 710 00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,809 crazy 711 00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:08,689 you know I'm a little boy out there 712 00:30:01,809 --> 00:30:10,940 exactly hits a u-turn goes back drives 713 00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:13,629 very slow enough to figure out you know 714 00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:16,820 exactly where the spot was gets out no 715 00:30:13,629 --> 00:30:18,350 God no sign of this guy anyway I'm just 716 00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:22,158 curious David to see what would happen 717 00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:25,309 if anybody acknowledged this and brought 718 00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:27,080 them in what would happen well you know 719 00:30:25,309 --> 00:30:29,210 using the case that we talked about 720 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,489 earlier a little voice a little boy yeah 721 00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:33,609 and countering this child and close 722 00:30:31,489 --> 00:30:36,259 that's sick physical presence yeah you 723 00:30:33,609 --> 00:30:38,090 see there are a few plays I mean has 724 00:30:36,259 --> 00:30:41,149 anybody asked them specifically what do 725 00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:43,279 you want why you're here sure but see 726 00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:44,928 when you ask them direct questions it 727 00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,320 always gets redirected they don't answer 728 00:30:44,929 --> 00:30:49,789 they don't answer they don't answer 729 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,029 almost like they're incapable of 730 00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:55,669 answering it's very odd you know people 731 00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:57,379 have said that it appears that these 732 00:30:55,669 --> 00:31:00,799 things are trying to hypnotize the 733 00:30:57,379 --> 00:31:02,480 victims because the monotone speech it 734 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,129 appears that they're very unfamiliar 735 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,960 with everyday objects 736 00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:08,060 there was an account that's I thought it 737 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,610 was just kind of hilarious uh this this 738 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:13,310 woman was at home she's finishing a 739 00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:15,649 project she's by herself and she's you 740 00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:17,510 know she's like ten seconds away from 741 00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:19,670 finishing whatever she's working on and 742 00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:22,070 the mob starts right on the door and 743 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:23,480 she's thinking okay okay I just I got to 744 00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:26,060 finish this but she can't take her mind 745 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,670 off that that pounding don't know that 746 00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:30,320 knocking so frustration she just throws 747 00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:33,290 the stuff down she goes to the door she 748 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,480 flings it open and and before she even 749 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:37,670 it even registers who's there she says 750 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,290 why don't you use the bleep bleep you 751 00:31:37,670 --> 00:31:41,870 know doorbell she points at the doorbell 752 00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:44,000 they don't lower the door exactly 753 00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:45,889 standing on the porch of these kids who 754 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,320 look at her and look at the doorbell and 755 00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:51,170 look at her several times like what is 756 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,510 that exactly it's like the men and boys 757 00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:57,050 don't you know with not knowing what a 758 00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:58,820 fork is does this happen worldwide it 759 00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:00,409 does it does you know when I first 760 00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:01,939 started looking at the cases of course I 761 00:32:00,410 --> 00:32:04,040 was getting ones that we were domestic 762 00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:06,320 and I thought okay you know maybe this 763 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,200 is regional because there are clusters 764 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,189 in the United States if you live in 765 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,070 Texas or the Midwest you're probably 766 00:32:12,190 --> 00:32:18,050 much more likely to encounter them 767 00:32:15,070 --> 00:32:20,750 there's a whole cluster in California 768 00:32:18,050 --> 00:32:22,669 but then they start to spread out the 769 00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:24,590 more you probe into it so a lot surfaced 770 00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:26,690 from Florida Dennis started getting 771 00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:29,300 cases from abroad are we getting more or 772 00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:30,620 less cases than we used to I think there 773 00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:33,919 are more but there are a lot more people 774 00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:36,139 that are tracking them now you know 775 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,570 several investigators go radio show 776 00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:41,630 that's gotten bigger and bigger right 777 00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:43,220 right well and you know I can't honestly 778 00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:44,600 take all the credit I mean Jason off it 779 00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:47,390 was writing about these things 780 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,709 Brad Steiger you know other people were 781 00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:50,600 tracking them they just didn't do a 782 00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:53,420 complete comprehensive study of the 783 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,949 phenomena but now as you say more people 784 00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:57,140 are looking at it and more and more 785 00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:58,400 counts all the time I get these accounts 786 00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:01,700 all the time George and they can come 787 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:04,190 from you know Australia England South 788 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:06,290 Africa is virtually everywhere these 789 00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:09,980 things are showing up should people be 790 00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:13,340 afraid of these entities David I think 791 00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:16,490 so because I I have never and all this 792 00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:18,040 time heard of a positive response or a 793 00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:20,960 positive spear 794 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,710 from encountering these kids and you get 795 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,990 sick 796 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:26,000 somehow afterwards like that little boy 797 00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:28,370 a lot of people do it seems the closer 798 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,140 the proximity do you'll notice that risk 799 00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:33,020 has anybody touched them you know they 800 00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:34,790 have a few people have reached out and 801 00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:37,580 touched these kids and they report very 802 00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:39,200 strange things they say that there was a 803 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:41,780 woman who reached out and touch one of 804 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,350 these kids and said that the coldness of 805 00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:48,920 this child was just overwhelming it she 806 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:50,870 can't leave my refrigerator right that 807 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,190 it was just she's and she told me in 808 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:55,310 confidence she said you know it feels 809 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:58,520 like touching a dead body yeah it's it's 810 00:33:55,310 --> 00:34:00,200 so cold and and it has that weird you 811 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,480 know she reported the weird texture to 812 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,670 the skin what if now she became ill from 813 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,920 - a conscious child so the clothes of 814 00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:10,940 the proximity the more misfortune there 815 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:13,810 seems to be what if they're dead what if 816 00:34:10,940 --> 00:34:17,659 they're dead - people that have somehow 817 00:34:13,810 --> 00:34:19,190 zombie-like came back that's you know 818 00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:21,379 there are so many possibilities with 819 00:34:19,190 --> 00:34:23,990 these things there really are you really 820 00:34:21,379 --> 00:34:25,819 are you know some people think everybody 821 00:34:23,989 --> 00:34:27,500 has a theory and that's kind of what 822 00:34:25,820 --> 00:34:28,850 makes it so fascinating you know and 823 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:30,230 there's so many ways to argue the 824 00:34:28,850 --> 00:34:32,089 theories you know you could argue that 825 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:34,340 they're some type of spirit because of 826 00:34:32,090 --> 00:34:36,590 the way they vanish suddenly and the way 827 00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:38,090 they seemingly materialize you could 828 00:34:36,590 --> 00:34:40,010 argue that maybe there's some kind of 829 00:34:38,090 --> 00:34:42,950 alien hybrid you know they certainly had 830 00:34:40,010 --> 00:34:46,310 that rather compelling similarity to the 831 00:34:42,949 --> 00:34:48,339 alien greys you know that iconic you 832 00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:52,310 know picture of the Grey's with a huge 833 00:34:48,340 --> 00:34:55,669 baby that was indeed their shape maybe 834 00:34:52,310 --> 00:34:58,250 they aren't taking a child's body or 835 00:34:55,668 --> 00:35:00,920 look maybe that's what they are they 836 00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:03,200 look like in real life this is very 837 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,630 possible how about adults you mentioned 838 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,089 that there are some black eyed adults 839 00:35:05,630 --> 00:35:11,240 but not a lot more of those cases 840 00:35:08,090 --> 00:35:13,370 starting to show up you know some people 841 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,870 think that it's because of the evolution 842 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:17,270 of the phenomena that well if these kids 843 00:35:14,870 --> 00:35:18,799 are out there then obviously you know 844 00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:20,960 there would probably be adults that's a 845 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,800 little journey it is I think I think so 846 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,140 too 847 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,930 the adults you know when I first started 848 00:35:24,140 --> 00:35:28,759 looking at the cases there weren't many 849 00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:31,220 reports of black eyed adults and the 850 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,170 ones that were there I had to really 851 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:36,200 carefully and say well you know there's 852 00:35:33,170 --> 00:35:37,910 there's possibility for hoax here back 853 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,348 when I wrote the book and was originally 854 00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:42,560 investigating of course you could buy 855 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:44,720 full sclera contact lenses for sci-fi 856 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,430 effects don't look black they used to be 857 00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,189 very expensive they've come down in 858 00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:50,390 price a lot now but you know back then 859 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:52,190 they were somewhere in the range of 860 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:54,319 three hundred dollars for a pair that's 861 00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:57,470 not some novelty item yeah now they're 862 00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:59,420 novelty items but you know that's a 863 00:35:57,470 --> 00:36:02,270 whole track that I really looked at when 864 00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:03,319 I was writing the book just to see okay 865 00:36:02,270 --> 00:36:05,690 let's look at this from every possible 866 00:36:03,319 --> 00:36:09,020 angle and you know see what all the 867 00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:11,720 possibilities for false reports are so 868 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:13,520 at the time the few reports of adults 869 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,950 that came in were very questionable now 870 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,079 since then there have been more 871 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:20,540 encounters that are quite unsettling 872 00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,650 with these black eyed adults and you 873 00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:23,150 know there's there's a distinct 874 00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:26,420 possibility that we're seeing more these 875 00:36:23,150 --> 00:36:29,119 entities if you let them in children or 876 00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:34,339 adults if you let them in what do you 877 00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:37,040 think could happen at all speculates a 878 00:36:34,339 --> 00:36:39,950 big question mark yet a speculation I I 879 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,400 would think that at the very least some 880 00:36:39,950 --> 00:36:46,129 kind of dire illness because from all 881 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,260 accounts anyone who is in that close of 882 00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:50,450 proximity to these kids for very long 883 00:36:48,260 --> 00:36:52,130 that's what happens but I don't think 884 00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:54,649 they come in to get you sick I think 885 00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:57,560 that's a byproduct I think what they are 886 00:36:54,650 --> 00:37:00,829 sure it's like touching radiation on a 887 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,890 UFO I don't think the craft wanted to 888 00:37:00,829 --> 00:37:06,680 hurt you the occupants but it happens 889 00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:08,420 it's it's it's the offshoot of that and 890 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:13,368 that's a good analogy you know it's it's 891 00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:14,869 a result of whatever their cash for lack 892 00:37:13,369 --> 00:37:17,180 of better word you know whatever their 893 00:37:14,869 --> 00:37:19,520 vibration is or whatever they're you 894 00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:22,848 know who knows what kind of somehow 895 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,829 physical or they could be giving off a 896 00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:26,420 virus that's right who knows that's 897 00:37:24,829 --> 00:37:28,400 right how do people get ahold of you 898 00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:31,160 David or what is your website my website 899 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:35,720 is two crows paranormal about stall 900 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:37,730 spot.com in this TW o CR OWS paranormal 901 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:39,319 blog spot.com and the name of the book 902 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:41,240 the black guy black-eyed children-- I 903 00:37:39,319 --> 00:37:44,690 love your laser out David I think it's a 904 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:46,990 great job hey the next time 905 00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:49,760 several children come to your door and 906 00:37:46,990 --> 00:37:55,759 they lift their heads up and they've got 907 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:58,040 black eyes do not let them in trust me 908 00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,640 I'm Georgia Dorian thanks for watching 909 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,640 beyond belief 69460

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