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with us on beyond belief is David
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Weatherly David is a paranormal
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investigator and also the author of the
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black-eyed children gotta be one of the
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scariest subjects I have ever
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encountered David I think it is George
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I've been doing this a lot of years you
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know I started pursuing these things in
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the 70s and it's hands-down one of the
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creepiest things I've ever investigate
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extremely extremely how did this come to
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you the story you know in the 90s with
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the advent of the internet I started
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hearing some of these stories I always
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keep up on any kind of strange
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paranormal events ancient mysteries are
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all those types of things so the
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Internet of course do a lot of people
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like us was a real blessing you know
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because all of a sudden a flood of
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information along with that came some
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real questionable stories so I started
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hearing these accounts and thought this
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is pretty interesting it's a strange
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twist it could be an urban legend it
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could be that there's something more to
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it but then I started meeting people who
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told me they had encountered these
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things and sitting down and interviewing
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someone who's had an encounter with
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these kids it's like working with a
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trauma victim oh it's unbelievable you
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know what we just saw was just a small
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representative part portion of what's
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out there that is scary stuff so let's
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go back just a little bit let's talk
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about the evil eye first of all what is
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that George I actually brought you a
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little gift from some of my recent
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travel depressing now this is called a
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nazar and this was made in Turkey I got
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it in Italy from a Syrian aha now I say
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that just the sort of illustrate at that
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point the evil eye is the most
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widespread superstition can I take this
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on a plane later absolutely you can take
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it you can wear you can carry it you can
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hang it in your office or a studio the
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idea is that it Ward's off the evil eye
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it Ward's off the words also that's good
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stuff yes that's good stuff it's
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considered a primary protection
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the most widespread protection you get a
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Europe the Mediterranean you see this
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emblem painted on boats hanging in shop
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windows in taxicabs
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I love personally everywhere and it
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literally is us all over the world this
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the belief in this evil eye and it's the
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idea that negative energy can be
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transmitted through the eyes and onto a
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person this goes way back it goes to the
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soul that's right that's right goes way
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back in history in fact one of the
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Pope's Pope Pius the 4th they considered
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him to have the evil eye and people were
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literally afraid to make eye contact
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with the Pope not good to be a Pope
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right at that time so yeah very
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widespread belief and it's interesting
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you know I started digging into that a
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little bit more after investigating all
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these weird black-eyed kid encounters
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because the black-eyed kids one of the
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things I set out to do when I started
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investigating this was I wanted to find
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out if this predated television internet
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anything that could make it a
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contemporary urban legend sure because
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even now good point a lot of people
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still believe oh this is a modern modern
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thing someone made it up because the the
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most famous account appeared in 97 from
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a Texas journalist named Brian Bethel
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had a personal encounter with these
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things posted it on the Internet the
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term black eye kid shows up during that
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those accounts and that's what stopped
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so I found that when I started probing
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into these things that you had to
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discard that term and start looking for
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the same parameters around these
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accounts and that's when old cases
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started showing up and there's still
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constantly how more my case how far back
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have you been able to go well I had a
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really fascinating account from the
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1950s early 1900s a story really strange
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encounter young man rural area very
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simple people this young man is walking
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home and he's literally walking down the
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dirt lane that leads to his house and he
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sees this young boy leaning against a
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fence post now he doesn't know this boy
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no
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everyone in the community and he stops
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and starts talking to him and little kid
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yeah he was you know 810 years old so
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I'm on that ramp so this young man stops
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and starts talking to this kid and says
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hey what you doing out here and you know
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things like that just normal country
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terms sure this kid who's kind of
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leaning with his head down like this
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against the post suddenly what's up with
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this young man solid bike guys and says
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I don't want to go to your house you
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take me up to your house just yeah he
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Hill he immediately feels terrified and
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he's thinking he's only thinking how
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fast can I run up the lane and get home
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yeah has if this black eye child as red
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as mine he immediately responds says
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don't you run away from me
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you're gonna take me up to your house
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that's freaky
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so this gentleman by all accounts broke
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every speed record he'd ever made making
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it to his door isn't it interesting how
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adults fear a little eight-year-old
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right well squirt right but there's much
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more going on here
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ya know this this particular case this
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gentleman he you know he he burst into
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his home his mother and father there and
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and they're saying you know what's why
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are you tearing in hearing like that
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what's happened he blurts out the story
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their immediate response oh I should add
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one more thing has he's running away
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from this child he here's what he
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describes has the scream of a bobcat
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coming from this child behind him which
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of course compels him to run all the
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faster right so you know his parents
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hear this story and bear in mind the
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term black eyed child has never used by
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that kid is now used their immediate
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responses you've met the devil we're
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taking you down to the preacher so you
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know here we have the cultural
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lenz of the time period and the people
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right identifying this as best as they
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can so their interpretation is Douglas
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is the devil you know this is the evil
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you've met the devil at the crossroads
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or on on the road and the shape of a
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little boy in the shape of a boy and the
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idea which shows up a lot in demonology
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that anything demonic can't fully take
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human form something has to be distorted
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whether it's a hand or a foot or the
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eyes or the eyes
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so David exactly what are black-eyed
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children you know George despite all the
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investigation and other people aside
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from me investigating these things the
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juries sort of out on exactly what they
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are now we can look at a lot of
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identifying traits in these encounters
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first of all of course the solid black
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eyes no White's no pupils nothing which
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is weird
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biologically weird as biologically weird
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and and of course you know physicians
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will tell you that if someone had a
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solid black eye that they would be blind
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a hot essentially might represent some
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kind of head trauma or something like
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that
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now there are other traits that show up
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- most people say that these kids have
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pale or pasty skin some people say it
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looks artificial like a covering
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possibly sort of harkens back to men in
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black cases you know a lot of people
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describe them as having pasty skin that
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doesn't look natural and you hear that a
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lot with these kids
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the age range usually falls somewhere
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between eight and twelve years old is
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what the most common accounts say you
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see a little bit outside of that even
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now there are some black eyed adults
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that have started showing up but other
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traits are a very monotone way of
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speaking unusual request you know
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they'll show up at a stranger's door and
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they'll say we just thought would come
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in for a while like like they're invited
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exactly exactly in fact that you know
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here's here's a typical encounter for
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people who aren't really that familiar
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with these things guy comes home from
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work you know it's early evening he's in
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the kitchen making a sandwich or opening
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a beer or something and then it starts a
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deliberate knock
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and it doesn't stop it's monotonous you
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know most people would just go right if
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they might you know imagine yourself in
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that position you know your first
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thought probably is why aren't they
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using the doorbell yeah you know and
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here and why won't they stop mocking go
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to the door open it anywhere from one to
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three kids eight ten twelve years old
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standing outside of your door looking up
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at you well almost always they're
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standing like this head sort of little
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person rise right initial ah everyone
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virtually everyone I've interviewed they
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go through about three stages with these
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encounters they open the door and first
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see the kids and they just have this
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feeling that something's not quite right
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right you know they've never seen these
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children before a lot of times these
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happen in in our neighborhoods where
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people know everyone who lives in their
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community so there's a slight unease
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that starts to increase dramatically
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when these children start talking
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because these monotone phrases start
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coming out and and they're weird you
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know
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hey it might rain you need to let us in
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for a bit out of nowhere right right so
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the unknown right the unease grows very
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quickly to outright nervousness the
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people over just slam the door while
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they do because during these encounters
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inevitably what happens is that people
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try to interact with them and say things
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like I I don't know you guys or I think
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you have the wrong house you know things
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like that at some point these children
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will raise their heads and make eye
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contact and that's when the level of
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fear really spikes in that's when it's
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creepy and it's just like this this is
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too much and they slam the door on these
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kids now when you open the door are they
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gone gone they vanish when you reject
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them they disappear there is an account
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in the book from a police officer who
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encountered a pair of these kids a boy
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and a girl standing on the the deck of a
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house and middle of the morning it was
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like 3:30 in the
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called by somebody he was called
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actually the house next door he was
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called on a domestic disturbance he went
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in he settled the issue no arrests made
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he's out in his patrol car happens to be
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just looking around the neighborhood as
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you know a good posture will do now he
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sees the house next door which has a
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deck he sees his two young kids standing
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on this deck and he's thinking why are
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these kids out here this time of the
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morning yeah so he approaches them and
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they're acting very strange of course he
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goes up the deck which has one flight of
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step heads are down right he he gets a
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good look at these kids and his first
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thought is that this is an abuse
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situation these kids have been forced
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out of the house no there's there's some
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kind of something's maybe drug abuse
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going on because they look very strange
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down them their eyes have dilated right
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kind of thing so he all these things are
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running through his head and he says you
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know why starts asking the normal
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questions why are you out here so forth
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they won't let us in that's what the
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kids say right so they won't let this
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officer of course open our door knots
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very loudly on the door and wants to
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know why the parents announce law
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enforcement takes a few knots but during
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this exchange he turns around and these
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kids have vanished George gone now he's
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up on a debt with a railing they would
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have to climb the railing and leap over
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into the yard because then he was
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essentially blocking the steps where
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he's standing at the door he would have
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seen it he would have heard it sometimes
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like the D material has vanished of
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course when the person finally comes to
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the door is an older woman who has no
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cure no children that has no idea what
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he's talking about no one's come to her
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door it's just a bizarre he turns to
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look at the kids and they're gone oh and
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this this is unnerved this man for years
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and you know he's he searched of course
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the yard and the no trees nothing for
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them to hide behind he searches the
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neighborhood and he the last time I
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spoke with him he told me that he still
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goes back there on occasion just to see
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creepy you know if there's
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kids in that neighborhood that match
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that description because it was so
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unsettling to it tell me about the
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disappearances of them so they seemed to
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appear and disappear at will it appears
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that way and it's it's almost mmm it's
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almost like they go through some kind of
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portal or something because it's so
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sudden and when you have someone who's a
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trained observer like a law enforcement
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all right who is you know his very life
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depends on him paying attention right
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listening to all the sounds and watching
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things and long enough for him to turn
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around knock on a door and turn back and
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these kids have vanished
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there's something very unnatural going
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on here obviously the request the goal
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and the mission of these black-eyed
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children is to get in the house that's
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what it appears from the request they
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want to be invited inside whether it's
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inside a home a business vehicle because
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they can't come in on the wrong it's
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doesn't appear that way which is curious
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because again here we have another
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connection to a different type of you
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know paranormal or supernatural history
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because traditional vampire lore of all
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things says that a vampire can't be
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invited in our can't come in unless it's
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invited must be invited yeah but what a
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lot of people forget is the same is true
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for demons in classical demonology a
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demon can't enter whether it's a home or
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a person's body unless some type of
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invitation has been issued the opening
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has anyway you don't let them in they
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seem to disappear they do they did but
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you know George after listening to so
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many people I think that a big part of
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these encounters is that level of fear
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that's created or and you get the sense
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when you listen to these accounts over
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and over again that these things appear
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just to create this incredible level of
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fear in people and it's it's as if okay
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we're done I think they're feeding on it
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because its energy fear is energy has
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anybody ever reportedly let them in oh
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boy
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you know I get a lot of reports even now
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of people who claim to have said them in
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the house and so forth and unfortunately
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so many of them are very difficult to
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follow up on now there were a handful
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that I had that I investigated when I
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was writing the book and one that was
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just absolutely incredible I was able to
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interview the entire family it was a
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very disturbing account and that story's
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a little bit long but I'm happy to share
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it with you hopefully if you want to
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hear it so this is uh this is a young
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woman who has a child of her own she's
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driving home from work and it's a rural
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area she pulls into a convenience store
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in her in her vehicle and she leaves her
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child in backseat jumps out to run in
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and grab you know not a grater to do not
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a good thing to do good you go long bear
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in mind this is this is small-town
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America and you know everyone knows
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everyone and this is a pattern that this
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woman has done you know countless times
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right she won't do it anymore I can tell
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you so she runs into the convenience
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store grabs her milk or bread or
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whatever she comes back out autopilot
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I'm sure you know how this is George
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jumping in the vehicle tossing the bag
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in the seat turning the key looking in
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the rearview mirror and there it is
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this kid with solid black eyes looking
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at her in the rearview mirror next to
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the sitting right beside her child ah
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so this what's the baby like oh it's not
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a baby it's it's it's a young boys
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memory serves me he's around 10 years
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old himself okay he's not panicking or
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screaming I mean acting completely
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normal alright but sitting right beside
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him and it's obviously three people can
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sit in the backseat know this black eyed
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child is right beside this point making
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physical contact with him now staring in
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the rearview mirror instant panic on the
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mothers part absolutely leaps out of the
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vehicle she Yanks up in the back door
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pulls her son out rushes back into the
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convenience store the clerk of course is
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is you know around the counter saying
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you know what's what's happening what's
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wrong she's just sort of
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stuttering and stammering she can't even
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show I explained this is there's
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basically says there's somebody in my
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vehicle clerk runs out there's the
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vehicle engine running doors open empty
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yeah nothing now
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this mother won't explain the case won't
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explain what she has seen to the clerk
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she calls her husband because she's
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afraid to get back in the vehicle she
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says I just need you to come here you
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know to the store won't explain to him
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what's going on here husband gets there
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she's still won't explain it she said
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just will you drive you know let me
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drive your trunk home I don't want I
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can't get back in that vehicle he's like
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okay you know we need to talk about this
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at home but all right she takes her
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husband's vehicle with her son goes home
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husband takes the vehicle that the
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black-eyed child was in heads home it's
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only a few miles now he's in a wreck
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totals the vehicle blacks out the last
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thing he remembers in the hospital was a
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foul odor overwhelming him in the
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vehicle like the kid was still in there
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somehow all right so the other portion
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of this case is that the husband
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fortunately was was okay had some minor
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you know bumps and bruises mild
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concussion I think but they released me
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from the hospital
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the mother meanwhile is trying to
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determine exactly what happened so she's
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asking her son she says what who was
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that boy do you know him from school oh
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I I don't know him mommy he just asked
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if he could get in our car I thought we
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could go to my house and play oh so he
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let him in he let him in he invited him
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in because he thought oh here's a
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potential playmate job but you know
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George like most young kids they don't
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see race religion or any physical
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difference you know a lot of times for
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kids that age it's okay you know he
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looks a little different but it's maybe
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this is a friend but the disturbing side
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to this account is that this young boy
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that's tenure he became ill oh really
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Harris
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him to the hospital and they you know so
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he's got these symptoms check him out
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this case stretched on and on the
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doctors could not figure out what was
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wrong with this chowsie dying no the
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reason they couldn't figure out what was
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wrong is because every time they thought
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they hadn't diagnosed the symptoms
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changed so he broke out and they said oh
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well he has the measles so they start to
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prepared to treat the measles and he's
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got something else something else
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happens they thought he had measles they
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thought he had appendicitis they thought
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he had a flu every time it would be
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something different you know his he
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would spike a high fever and it would go
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away like that
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before they can even treat it finally
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the parents who of course did not tell
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the doctors about that we've seen a
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black idea they decide well we're just
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going to take him home you know maybe
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it's just the flu and nursing back to
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help parents took the child home
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eventually call started calling in other
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friends that they could trust and and
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essentially started a prayer circle
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around this boy that lasted for quite
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some time he fully recovered Wow and you
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know he's he's healthy and happy this
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what what is your take of these
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black-eyed children what do you think
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they want the effort of trying to get
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into your house to trying to be there
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what do they want are they after our
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souls what's going on here you know
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George after countless cases
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interviewing so many people and when I
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wrote the book I was very objective
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about it I said here's you know it could
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be this it could be that they have
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things in common with alien hybrids with
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demons with men and black in a wide
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range of phenomena my personal opinion
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however is that these things are
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something interdimensional I think
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they're simply coming through from they
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come and go another level of existence
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which science is now admitting that
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there are other reality are they in
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human form on the other side I don't
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more than they I don't miss yours
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I think they take a childlike form
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because what
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a way to catch someone off-guard right
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we're hardwired has adults that if a kid
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shows up and says I need help
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you know reaction isn't help you know
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even if it's a kid showing up and at
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your door and saying I really need a
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drink of water mister your natural
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inclination is to help and let them in
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so you're off guard yeah so I think that
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whatever these entities are they're
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taking the form of a child in order to
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catch people off-guard and create that
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level of fear in people so they can feed
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on the energy why haven't think on the
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distance and corrected the eyes you know
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if you're gonna tell you the shape of a
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little kid and you have that why still
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stay with black eyes there's something
546
00:22:56,230 --> 00:23:00,310
there's something weird about there is
547
00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,419
something weird about it and and you
548
00:23:00,310 --> 00:23:03,250
know it's it's one of those questions
549
00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:05,950
about this mystery that would kind of
550
00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:07,720
don't know I think that I'm starting to
551
00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:10,270
see evidence for whatever these entities
552
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:13,150
are existing much further back in
553
00:23:10,270 --> 00:23:16,120
history and I say that because one so
554
00:23:13,150 --> 00:23:18,850
many accounts keep showing up from you
555
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:20,620
know the 70s the 50s the 40s of
556
00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:23,020
encounters with these beans that
557
00:23:20,620 --> 00:23:24,669
essentially fit the same paradigm then
558
00:23:23,020 --> 00:23:27,820
you've got other in settled unsettling
559
00:23:24,670 --> 00:23:29,110
things were man have you ever seen this
560
00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:31,570
they know would you tell me about this
561
00:23:29,110 --> 00:23:34,419
earth Amman is a statue found that
562
00:23:31,570 --> 00:23:39,370
Gobekli Tepe it's somewhere in the
563
00:23:34,420 --> 00:23:42,160
neighborhood of 13,000 years old but
564
00:23:39,370 --> 00:23:46,139
it's a statue of this this what they
565
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:50,560
think is a male figure that was carved
566
00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:55,290
that long ago whoever did it took the
567
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:58,990
time to carve eyes out of black obsidian
568
00:23:55,290 --> 00:24:01,030
so here you have this weird statue with
569
00:23:58,990 --> 00:24:03,490
black ops 13 a half thousand years old
570
00:24:01,030 --> 00:24:05,830
with solid black eyes I've talked to a
571
00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:07,360
lot of people archaeologists like I mean
572
00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:09,310
a Robert Schoch and of course Linda
573
00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:11,889
Moulton Howe sure she and I had a long
574
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:13,270
discussion about this and everyone who's
575
00:24:11,890 --> 00:24:15,820
been in the presence that this statue
576
00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:18,460
says that there's this very unsettling
577
00:24:15,820 --> 00:24:19,990
feeling about it now why does someone 13
578
00:24:18,460 --> 00:24:22,690
a half thousand years ago choose to
579
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:23,760
depict an entity with solid rock like
580
00:24:22,690 --> 00:24:26,070
that's a really
581
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,650
things unless he witnessed these or
582
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:31,169
something something to happen yes so you
583
00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:32,520
know why they don't go the distance and
584
00:24:31,170 --> 00:24:34,920
change their eyes that's a really good
585
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:36,990
question maybe they're not able to maybe
586
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,420
they're not able to has anybody died
587
00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:43,790
from being associated with them you know
588
00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:46,560
there are a lot of cases where people
589
00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:49,080
think these things are an omen of some
590
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,899
type harbinger of something Parminder of
591
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,000
bad luck or bad fortune so you know
592
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:56,160
there are accounts of people seeing
593
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,170
these black-eyed children and then
594
00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,760
having a string of bad luck which
595
00:24:58,170 --> 00:25:04,830
includes deaths and their family now I'm
596
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,760
not aware of anyone who has directly
597
00:25:04,830 --> 00:25:07,919
perished
598
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,420
you know after encountering this or has
599
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,610
a result of encountering these things
600
00:25:09,420 --> 00:25:14,460
but that's a hard thing to say hey you
601
00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:17,540
know I've had people ask me in the past
602
00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:20,910
you know dude the unsettling question is
603
00:25:17,540 --> 00:25:22,500
how many people that vanish
604
00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:24,420
maybe encountered these things and we
605
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,950
just don't know we we really don't know
606
00:25:24,420 --> 00:25:28,110
how many people have left in it I know
607
00:25:25,950 --> 00:25:30,390
what we first met at a conference years
608
00:25:28,110 --> 00:25:32,429
ago before I heads on coast to coast and
609
00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:35,070
you were telling me about this I'm
610
00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:39,360
saying I've got to get this guy on this
611
00:25:35,070 --> 00:25:42,120
is unbelievable and we have a couple
612
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:45,090
topics that just rivet people one of
613
00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:47,340
course is missing people right by David
614
00:25:45,090 --> 00:25:50,040
Pilates and then you the black-eyed
615
00:25:47,340 --> 00:25:53,879
children right which freaks people out
616
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,740
David they just can't handle it I don't
617
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,870
know what I would do if I go to the door
618
00:25:55,740 --> 00:26:00,000
of my house and there are these three
619
00:25:57,870 --> 00:26:01,770
children with their heads down and then
620
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,200
they kind of look up at you and they've
621
00:26:01,770 --> 00:26:06,660
got all black eyes right that's scary
622
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:09,510
stuff it's it's very unsettling but you
623
00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:11,580
know George I think that using the term
624
00:26:09,510 --> 00:26:14,040
paranormal just in general to include
625
00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:17,490
you know UFOs and hauntings and so forth
626
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:20,870
I think anytime you add the element of
627
00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:24,330
children into that spooky it's changed
628
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:26,219
yeah yeah and and it not only makes it
629
00:26:24,330 --> 00:26:29,040
creepier but it also makes it more
630
00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:31,620
unsettling to us as humans it's sad you
631
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:36,879
know you can see a hardened ghost hunter
632
00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:39,639
in a location you know and when a child
633
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,620
EVP shows for the spirit of a child it's
634
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,990
repeated thank you everyone it's very
635
00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:46,060
different you know it's it's very
636
00:26:42,990 --> 00:26:48,250
disturbing to us at a core level that
637
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:50,200
you know a child could be trapped in
638
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:52,030
spirit form so you know when we
639
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,230
translate that over to these encounters
640
00:26:52,030 --> 00:26:58,810
it's very unsettling that some kind of
641
00:26:55,230 --> 00:27:02,560
negative entity is able to take the form
642
00:26:58,810 --> 00:27:05,830
of a child in order to get through you
643
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,510
know to to our emotional selves there's
644
00:27:05,830 --> 00:27:10,659
something going on yeah they want
645
00:27:07,510 --> 00:27:13,960
something because I want our souls could
646
00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:17,440
be the clip we used from the Watchers
647
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:21,220
series la Marzulli Watchers series tell
648
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:23,650
me a little bit about these kids you
649
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:25,660
know la did a fantastic job
650
00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:27,070
recreating that encounter and I tell you
651
00:27:25,660 --> 00:27:29,050
George a lot of times people will ask me
652
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:30,250
what's the most unsettling account or
653
00:27:29,050 --> 00:27:33,820
disturbing account that you've
654
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:35,950
personally heard and for me hands down
655
00:27:33,820 --> 00:27:40,120
it's what's depicted in that video
656
00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:43,600
here's why that account was from a young
657
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:46,989
military man who was visiting family in
658
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,639
Texas and this fellow he has family all
659
00:27:46,990 --> 00:27:50,770
over Texas he's one of those guys who
660
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,840
likes to drive you know when he when he
661
00:27:50,770 --> 00:27:55,240
has the opportunity and I'm that guy's
662
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,310
great all over the Pakistan you know and
663
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,960
I'm the guy who likes to you know get in
664
00:27:57,310 --> 00:28:01,570
the vehicle and drive late at night and
665
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,310
you know see different territory and
666
00:28:01,570 --> 00:28:09,010
different stars I'm the same way as long
667
00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:10,600
as it's 20 minutes away right he decided
668
00:28:09,010 --> 00:28:15,610
he wanted to visit a different portion
669
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:19,270
of his family hours away he's going to
670
00:28:15,610 --> 00:28:21,010
drive at night so get this trip ready
671
00:28:19,270 --> 00:28:22,540
his thermos of coffee takes off in his
672
00:28:21,010 --> 00:28:25,500
truck and he's driving under the stars
673
00:28:22,540 --> 00:28:28,420
he's in the middle of nowhere George
674
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:30,970
Collin nature hits he pulls off on the
675
00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:33,700
side of the road just you know kind of
676
00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:36,310
small hills and desert and he waltz off
677
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:38,080
the road for a little bit looking up at
678
00:28:36,310 --> 00:28:42,370
the stars it comes back after he's
679
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:46,689
finished approaches his vehicle here's
680
00:28:42,370 --> 00:28:49,060
this kit standing by his truck just puts
681
00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:50,419
his hand on the you know this just
682
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,820
gentleman has put his hand on the door
683
00:28:50,419 --> 00:28:56,059
this drunken here is this kid I I want
684
00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:59,149
to go for a ride and with that look
685
00:28:56,059 --> 00:29:01,730
right and here's you know a hardened
686
00:28:59,149 --> 00:29:04,209
military guy you know it's like what are
687
00:29:01,730 --> 00:29:06,710
you doing out here kid
688
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:10,369
same as these other encounters it
689
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:13,279
develops to where this kid is this same
690
00:29:10,369 --> 00:29:16,399
very simple phrase pushes hair fine this
691
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:20,019
man I want to get in your truck we can
692
00:29:16,399 --> 00:29:24,109
go for a ride now very cold very
693
00:29:20,019 --> 00:29:25,700
monotone this fellow is is you know he's
694
00:29:24,109 --> 00:29:28,460
immediately nervous he's looking around
695
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,259
because there's no houses he hasn't
696
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:30,529
passed another vehicle and God knows how
697
00:29:30,259 --> 00:29:34,249
long
698
00:29:30,529 --> 00:29:35,809
there's there are no whites from houses
699
00:29:34,249 --> 00:29:37,340
anywhere as far as you can see he's
700
00:29:35,809 --> 00:29:40,629
wondering where you know how did this
701
00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:43,340
kid get out in the middle of nowhere so
702
00:29:40,629 --> 00:29:46,129
like these other accounts his level of
703
00:29:43,340 --> 00:29:48,619
fear spikes to the point where he jumps
704
00:29:46,129 --> 00:29:51,080
in his truck free johnsy engine and
705
00:29:48,619 --> 00:29:53,959
takes off yeah he gets a few miles down
706
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,759
the road and all the military training
707
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,210
is kicking it he's thinking wait a
708
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,700
minute
709
00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:59,330
I you know this is disgrace this is
710
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:01,809
crazy
711
00:29:59,330 --> 00:30:08,689
you know I'm a little boy out there
712
00:30:01,809 --> 00:30:10,940
exactly hits a u-turn goes back drives
713
00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:13,629
very slow enough to figure out you know
714
00:30:10,940 --> 00:30:16,820
exactly where the spot was gets out no
715
00:30:13,629 --> 00:30:18,350
God no sign of this guy anyway I'm just
716
00:30:16,820 --> 00:30:22,158
curious David to see what would happen
717
00:30:18,350 --> 00:30:25,309
if anybody acknowledged this and brought
718
00:30:22,159 --> 00:30:27,080
them in what would happen well you know
719
00:30:25,309 --> 00:30:29,210
using the case that we talked about
720
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,489
earlier a little voice a little boy yeah
721
00:30:29,210 --> 00:30:33,609
and countering this child and close
722
00:30:31,489 --> 00:30:36,259
that's sick physical presence yeah you
723
00:30:33,609 --> 00:30:38,090
see there are a few plays I mean has
724
00:30:36,259 --> 00:30:41,149
anybody asked them specifically what do
725
00:30:38,090 --> 00:30:43,279
you want why you're here sure but see
726
00:30:41,149 --> 00:30:44,928
when you ask them direct questions it
727
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:47,320
always gets redirected they don't answer
728
00:30:44,929 --> 00:30:49,789
they don't answer they don't answer
729
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,029
almost like they're incapable of
730
00:30:49,789 --> 00:30:55,669
answering it's very odd you know people
731
00:30:53,029 --> 00:30:57,379
have said that it appears that these
732
00:30:55,669 --> 00:31:00,799
things are trying to hypnotize the
733
00:30:57,379 --> 00:31:02,480
victims because the monotone speech it
734
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,129
appears that they're very unfamiliar
735
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,960
with everyday objects
736
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:08,060
there was an account that's I thought it
737
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:10,610
was just kind of hilarious uh this this
738
00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:13,310
woman was at home she's finishing a
739
00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:15,649
project she's by herself and she's you
740
00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:17,510
know she's like ten seconds away from
741
00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:19,670
finishing whatever she's working on and
742
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:22,070
the mob starts right on the door and
743
00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:23,480
she's thinking okay okay I just I got to
744
00:31:22,070 --> 00:31:26,060
finish this but she can't take her mind
745
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,670
off that that pounding don't know that
746
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:30,320
knocking so frustration she just throws
747
00:31:28,670 --> 00:31:33,290
the stuff down she goes to the door she
748
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,480
flings it open and and before she even
749
00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:37,670
it even registers who's there she says
750
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,290
why don't you use the bleep bleep you
751
00:31:37,670 --> 00:31:41,870
know doorbell she points at the doorbell
752
00:31:39,290 --> 00:31:44,000
they don't lower the door exactly
753
00:31:41,870 --> 00:31:45,889
standing on the porch of these kids who
754
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,320
look at her and look at the doorbell and
755
00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:51,170
look at her several times like what is
756
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,510
that exactly it's like the men and boys
757
00:31:51,170 --> 00:31:57,050
don't you know with not knowing what a
758
00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:58,820
fork is does this happen worldwide it
759
00:31:57,050 --> 00:32:00,409
does it does you know when I first
760
00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:01,939
started looking at the cases of course I
761
00:32:00,410 --> 00:32:04,040
was getting ones that we were domestic
762
00:32:01,940 --> 00:32:06,320
and I thought okay you know maybe this
763
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:09,200
is regional because there are clusters
764
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:12,189
in the United States if you live in
765
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:15,070
Texas or the Midwest you're probably
766
00:32:12,190 --> 00:32:18,050
much more likely to encounter them
767
00:32:15,070 --> 00:32:20,750
there's a whole cluster in California
768
00:32:18,050 --> 00:32:22,669
but then they start to spread out the
769
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:24,590
more you probe into it so a lot surfaced
770
00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:26,690
from Florida Dennis started getting
771
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:29,300
cases from abroad are we getting more or
772
00:32:26,690 --> 00:32:30,620
less cases than we used to I think there
773
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:33,919
are more but there are a lot more people
774
00:32:30,620 --> 00:32:36,139
that are tracking them now you know
775
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,570
several investigators go radio show
776
00:32:36,140 --> 00:32:41,630
that's gotten bigger and bigger right
777
00:32:38,570 --> 00:32:43,220
right well and you know I can't honestly
778
00:32:41,630 --> 00:32:44,600
take all the credit I mean Jason off it
779
00:32:43,220 --> 00:32:47,390
was writing about these things
780
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,709
Brad Steiger you know other people were
781
00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:50,600
tracking them they just didn't do a
782
00:32:48,710 --> 00:32:53,420
complete comprehensive study of the
783
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,949
phenomena but now as you say more people
784
00:32:53,420 --> 00:32:57,140
are looking at it and more and more
785
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:58,400
counts all the time I get these accounts
786
00:32:57,140 --> 00:33:01,700
all the time George and they can come
787
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:04,190
from you know Australia England South
788
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:06,290
Africa is virtually everywhere these
789
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:09,980
things are showing up should people be
790
00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:13,340
afraid of these entities David I think
791
00:33:09,980 --> 00:33:16,490
so because I I have never and all this
792
00:33:13,340 --> 00:33:18,040
time heard of a positive response or a
793
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:20,960
positive spear
794
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,710
from encountering these kids and you get
795
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,990
sick
796
00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:26,000
somehow afterwards like that little boy
797
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:28,370
a lot of people do it seems the closer
798
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,140
the proximity do you'll notice that risk
799
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:33,020
has anybody touched them you know they
800
00:33:30,140 --> 00:33:34,790
have a few people have reached out and
801
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:37,580
touched these kids and they report very
802
00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:39,200
strange things they say that there was a
803
00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:41,780
woman who reached out and touch one of
804
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:45,350
these kids and said that the coldness of
805
00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:48,920
this child was just overwhelming it she
806
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:50,870
can't leave my refrigerator right that
807
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,190
it was just she's and she told me in
808
00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:55,310
confidence she said you know it feels
809
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:58,520
like touching a dead body yeah it's it's
810
00:33:55,310 --> 00:34:00,200
so cold and and it has that weird you
811
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,480
know she reported the weird texture to
812
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,670
the skin what if now she became ill from
813
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,920
- a conscious child so the clothes of
814
00:34:04,670 --> 00:34:10,940
the proximity the more misfortune there
815
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:13,810
seems to be what if they're dead what if
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they're dead - people that have somehow
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zombie-like came back that's you know
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there are so many possibilities with
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these things there really are you really
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are you know some people think everybody
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has a theory and that's kind of what
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makes it so fascinating you know and
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there's so many ways to argue the
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theories you know you could argue that
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they're some type of spirit because of
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the way they vanish suddenly and the way
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they seemingly materialize you could
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argue that maybe there's some kind of
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alien hybrid you know they certainly had
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that rather compelling similarity to the
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alien greys you know that iconic you
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know picture of the Grey's with a huge
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baby that was indeed their shape maybe
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they aren't taking a child's body or
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look maybe that's what they are they
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look like in real life this is very
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possible how about adults you mentioned
838
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that there are some black eyed adults
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but not a lot more of those cases
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starting to show up you know some people
841
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think that it's because of the evolution
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of the phenomena that well if these kids
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are out there then obviously you know
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there would probably be adults that's a
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little journey it is I think I think so
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too
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the adults you know when I first started
848
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looking at the cases there weren't many
849
00:35:26,930 --> 00:35:31,220
reports of black eyed adults and the
850
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,170
ones that were there I had to really
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00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:36,200
carefully and say well you know there's
852
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there's possibility for hoax here back
853
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when I wrote the book and was originally
854
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investigating of course you could buy
855
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full sclera contact lenses for sci-fi
856
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,430
effects don't look black they used to be
857
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:49,189
very expensive they've come down in
858
00:35:46,430 --> 00:35:50,390
price a lot now but you know back then
859
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:52,190
they were somewhere in the range of
860
00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:54,319
three hundred dollars for a pair that's
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00:35:52,190 --> 00:35:57,470
not some novelty item yeah now they're
862
00:35:54,319 --> 00:35:59,420
novelty items but you know that's a
863
00:35:57,470 --> 00:36:02,270
whole track that I really looked at when
864
00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:03,319
I was writing the book just to see okay
865
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let's look at this from every possible
866
00:36:03,319 --> 00:36:09,020
angle and you know see what all the
867
00:36:05,690 --> 00:36:11,720
possibilities for false reports are so
868
00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:13,520
at the time the few reports of adults
869
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,950
that came in were very questionable now
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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,079
since then there have been more
871
00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:20,540
encounters that are quite unsettling
872
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,650
with these black eyed adults and you
873
00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:23,150
know there's there's a distinct
874
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:26,420
possibility that we're seeing more these
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entities if you let them in children or
876
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:34,339
adults if you let them in what do you
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00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:37,040
think could happen at all speculates a
878
00:36:34,339 --> 00:36:39,950
big question mark yet a speculation I I
879
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,400
would think that at the very least some
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kind of dire illness because from all
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00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,260
accounts anyone who is in that close of
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00:36:46,130 --> 00:36:50,450
proximity to these kids for very long
883
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that's what happens but I don't think
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they come in to get you sick I think
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00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:57,560
that's a byproduct I think what they are
886
00:36:54,650 --> 00:37:00,829
sure it's like touching radiation on a
887
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:03,890
UFO I don't think the craft wanted to
888
00:37:00,829 --> 00:37:06,680
hurt you the occupants but it happens
889
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:08,420
it's it's it's the offshoot of that and
890
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:13,368
that's a good analogy you know it's it's
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a result of whatever their cash for lack
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00:37:13,369 --> 00:37:17,180
of better word you know whatever their
893
00:37:14,869 --> 00:37:19,520
vibration is or whatever they're you
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00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:22,848
know who knows what kind of somehow
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00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,829
physical or they could be giving off a
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00:37:22,849 --> 00:37:26,420
virus that's right who knows that's
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right how do people get ahold of you
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David or what is your website my website
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is two crows paranormal about stall
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spot.com in this TW o CR OWS paranormal
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blog spot.com and the name of the book
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the black guy black-eyed children-- I
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love your laser out David I think it's a
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great job hey the next time
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several children come to your door and
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they lift their heads up and they've got
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black eyes do not let them in trust me
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I'm Georgia Dorian thanks for watching
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beyond belief
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