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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:29,230 --> 00:00:32,549 This is a man who cycled into the Sahara desert. 2 00:00:51,450 --> 00:00:54,810 This is a man who lived in a street of brothels in Algiers. 3 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:57,070 Who taught himself Sanskrit. 4 00:00:58,220 --> 00:01:03,120 who was distressed by the words used to his most famous tune, I vow to thee my 5 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,200 country, because they were the opposite of what he believed, who instinctively 6 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,140 understood the violence of mechanized warfare, and who had an absolute horror 7 00:01:13,140 --> 00:01:17,120 of the inevitability of old age and death. 8 00:02:24,650 --> 00:02:31,490 Holt's most famous work, The Planets, is the most performed and recorded piece of 9 00:02:31,490 --> 00:02:36,150 English music in the repertoire. Over 200 different international recordings. 10 00:02:36,610 --> 00:02:40,770 But there are still people who turn their noses up at The Planets. Well, 11 00:02:40,930 --> 00:02:45,750 more fool them, I say. It's one of the most original and extraordinary and 12 00:02:45,750 --> 00:02:47,370 brilliant things in English music. 13 00:02:47,590 --> 00:02:48,590 Full stop. 14 00:02:49,210 --> 00:02:53,370 And the fact that it is also very popular really shouldn't blind us to 15 00:02:53,370 --> 00:02:57,810 this. It is so inventive all the way through. This is a mind at the absolute 16 00:02:57,810 --> 00:03:00,270 full stretch, an extraordinary mind at full stretch. 17 00:03:00,490 --> 00:03:04,370 For instance, the beautiful, unbelievable sounds of these atonal 18 00:03:04,370 --> 00:03:08,690 chords swinging backwards and forwards at Saturn. This is something completely 19 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:13,010 unlike what any English composer had attempted before then, and actually 20 00:03:13,010 --> 00:03:16,570 isn't very much like what any continental composer was doing at the 21 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:17,570 time either. 22 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:22,180 And maybe it's that old thing about custom staling something's infinite 23 00:03:22,180 --> 00:03:28,260 variety, but maybe we need to just stand back from this piece and forget the fact 24 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:33,280 that we know it well, or many of us do, and just listen to it afresh. And that's 25 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,400 been my experience over the last few years, and thinking, God, this is an 26 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,400 astonishing piece. 27 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:48,040 the trouble is that his most famous music has been used and abused so often 28 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,600 that we no longer have a clear sight either of what holst originally intended 29 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,180 or of his greatness as a composer 30 00:09:22,060 --> 00:09:23,440 I love 31 00:10:26,140 --> 00:10:32,140 Gustavus von Holst was born in Cheltenham in 1874, less than 20 miles 32 00:10:32,140 --> 00:10:36,380 from where his lifelong friend Rafe Vaughan Williams had been born only two 33 00:10:36,380 --> 00:10:40,620 years earlier, in Gloucestershire in the Cotswolds. 34 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:15,520 but the myth of an idyllic rural england was not something which inspired holst 35 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,260 for him the english countryside much though he loved it was more akin to 36 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:25,380 thomas hardy unforgiving harsh midwinter bleak 37 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Thank you. 38 00:13:31,370 --> 00:13:37,150 The Holst family had come from Riga in the early 19th century when Riga was 39 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:38,150 part of Russia. 40 00:14:33,870 --> 00:14:39,290 The family was actually German, and two brothers had actually bought the title 41 00:14:39,290 --> 00:14:43,370 from the Holy Roman Emperor Joseph II, patron of Mozart. 42 00:14:43,790 --> 00:14:49,310 So the Gustav Holst family originates from that same branch where my family 43 00:14:49,310 --> 00:14:50,249 comes from. 44 00:14:50,250 --> 00:14:56,110 My part of the family then became nobility in 1789, the year of the French 45 00:14:56,110 --> 00:14:58,210 Revolution, given by Joseph II. 46 00:14:59,250 --> 00:15:03,770 Just because they had property in Russia, and it was one of the things to 47 00:15:03,770 --> 00:15:08,230 keep it in Russia, they had to have the title. 48 00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:13,010 So they went down to Joseph II and said, we need the title, can we buy it? 49 00:15:13,650 --> 00:15:20,430 This is the seal that Johann Valentin and Heinrich Christian got the two 50 00:15:20,430 --> 00:15:22,070 brothers when they got their nobility. 51 00:15:23,870 --> 00:15:26,690 And here in detail is the family crest. 52 00:15:27,660 --> 00:15:33,600 which is also on my ring, with which you would seal important documents, for 53 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,600 instance. 54 00:16:00,430 --> 00:16:05,670 But then the family split, and Matthias, their cousin, who had spent some time as 55 00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:10,190 a composer at the court of St. Petersburg, emigrated finally to 56 00:16:10,190 --> 00:16:12,530 England, probably for economic reasons. 57 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:15,270 It was really quite a musical family. 58 00:16:16,010 --> 00:16:17,990 Holst's grandfather was a composer. 59 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:22,630 His father Adolf gave piano lessons at the house in Pitville Terrace. 60 00:16:22,830 --> 00:16:27,010 One of his pupils, Clara, became his wife, Holst's mother. 61 00:16:27,850 --> 00:16:34,010 But Adolf was also an organist and choir master, and the sound of church choirs 62 00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:38,410 in the nearby cathedral in Gloucester and in All Saints Church in Cheltenham, 63 00:16:38,550 --> 00:16:43,550 where the young Gustavus was christened, must have been the earliest sounds he 64 00:16:43,550 --> 00:16:44,550 would have heard. 65 00:18:36,970 --> 00:18:43,850 Bow down thine ear, O Lord, hear me, for 66 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:50,430 I am poor and needy. Through my 67 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:56,690 humble supplication, Lord, 68 00:18:56,750 --> 00:19:03,230 give ear and acceptation. Be 69 00:19:03,230 --> 00:19:05,470 merciful unto me. 70 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:59,740 And it was no accident that his first job when he was only 17 was as an 71 00:21:59,740 --> 00:22:02,020 organist in the heart of the Cotswolds. 72 00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:08,120 Most Sundays he would walk the 15 miles from Cheltenham to the little church at 73 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:09,120 Wickwissington. 74 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,380 He happened to be organist there because he was offered the job and he needed the 75 00:22:13,380 --> 00:22:17,840 money as well as the experience. It was his first professional job. 76 00:22:18,580 --> 00:22:22,840 When I say needed the money, you may not think that four pounds a year was much. 77 00:22:23,340 --> 00:22:26,580 but you have to remember that money went further in those days. 78 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,600 The experience was very, very useful to him. 79 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:38,840 My father had been to Cheltenham Grammar School, where he had soon realised that 80 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,420 music was to be his life. 81 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:46,080 The thing that impressed him most, of course, was that he was so good at 82 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,080 playing the piano. 83 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,340 Quite astonishingly good. 84 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,100 Not a bit like a schoolboy of that age. 85 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:57,960 Here we are in Hohl's birthplace museum with Hohl's own piano here. 86 00:22:59,060 --> 00:23:01,020 It's not the best musical instrument. 87 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:04,540 This has a very light touch. 88 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:09,200 So it would have meant that he could easily play the piano. He was a good 89 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,200 pianist. 90 00:23:10,620 --> 00:23:14,540 But the problem would have been for him was the heavy touches of the German 91 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:18,540 pianos. Because Hohl suffered from neuritis... 92 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:22,250 which meant that he was very weak down his right-hand side. 93 00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:28,690 He couldn't play on the piano, which had a heavy touch, and so this instrument 94 00:23:28,690 --> 00:23:29,850 was found for him. 95 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:34,670 He also tried to learn the violin, and his father, being a good musician 96 00:23:34,670 --> 00:23:39,790 himself, was determined to get him into one of the music colleges in London, in 97 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:43,670 spite of the fact that the young Holst already suffered quite badly from 98 00:23:43,670 --> 00:23:44,670 asthma. 99 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,280 When he was a schoolboy, he was called Sausage. 100 00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:04,780 He was so hopeless at games, you know. I mean, at school, you can be good at 101 00:24:04,780 --> 00:24:09,380 games and enhance the honour of your school and you're held in very high 102 00:24:09,380 --> 00:24:10,380 regard. 103 00:24:10,639 --> 00:24:15,800 If you're good at studies and you pass exams and enhance the honour of your 104 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,700 school academically, you're a swat and nobody wants to know. 105 00:24:19,900 --> 00:24:23,740 And so because he was no good at games, he was generally disparaged by 106 00:24:23,740 --> 00:24:27,140 everybody. They just called him sausage, good for nothing, you know, can't play 107 00:24:27,140 --> 00:24:30,240 cricket, can't play rugger. And that was how he got that name. 108 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,700 His father made him take up the trombone as a remedy against asthma. 109 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,760 The boy could hardly breathe at times and his father thought that playing the 110 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,060 trombone, where you've got to get your breath right up into your lungs and play 111 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:04,060 this instrument, was good for him. So he became quite competent as a trombonist. 112 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,800 Now a trombonist doesn't play as much as other instruments like the violins, so 113 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,840 there's quite long rests when he could sit around and listen to what the other 114 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,480 instruments in the orchestra were doing. 115 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,500 and he said he learnt orchestration from the inside out. 116 00:25:27,620 --> 00:25:32,140 But he had neuritis in his hands always and that was always difficult for all 117 00:25:32,140 --> 00:25:33,140 the writing. 118 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,920 He was quite frail. 119 00:25:39,340 --> 00:25:42,940 But of course, with his terrible health and terrible eyesight, he could hardly 120 00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:46,100 recognize his own family from the distance of a few yards. 121 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:57,680 He applied for Trinity College and was turned down. 122 00:25:58,020 --> 00:26:02,820 And then he got into the Royal College of Music. But in order to do that, he 123 00:26:02,820 --> 00:26:05,240 had to take lessons in harmony and counterpoint. 124 00:26:05,660 --> 00:26:10,160 And then I think he just sort of, once he got into the college, he put that 125 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 aside and started to do his own thing. 126 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,960 In fact, there's a wonderful anecdote some years later when Imogen herself was 127 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,460 going to the Royal College of Music. 128 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:26,580 She told me that she vividly remembered her first day when she left home to 129 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:27,580 travel to the college. 130 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,380 She walked down the garden path. 131 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:34,030 And Holst stood in the doorway behind her when she got to the garden gate. 132 00:26:34,230 --> 00:26:39,830 He shouted out, Remember, whatever you do, never open a textbook on harmony. 133 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,700 It was in 1895, that's the year he got his scholarship, that he first met 134 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:03,700 Vaughan Williams. 135 00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:10,480 And they immediately became great friends and remained great friends right 136 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,360 up to the time my father died. 137 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:18,480 And from the very early times when they were at college, they got into the habit 138 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:24,000 of meeting as often as possible and playing through their compositions to 139 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,000 each other 140 00:27:26,890 --> 00:27:33,390 half-written stage and criticizing them and that was i think possibly the most 141 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:39,590 helpful thing in music that happened to my father throughout his whole 142 00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:46,390 life but it was at morley college in the slums behind waterloo station 143 00:27:46,390 --> 00:27:48,950 that he finally found his musical home 144 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Morley College was formed primarily to give education to the working classes. 145 00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:11,460 It was very important for Holst, as he was once director of music 146 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:16,260 here. Initially, I believe, the Morley trustees wanted to appoint Ralph Vaughan 147 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:20,640 Williams, but he actually recommended Gustav Holst because Vaughan Williams 148 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,760 felt he didn't have enough time. 149 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:28,380 So Holst proceeded to do a lecture on the horrors of the bagpipe music by 150 00:28:28,380 --> 00:28:32,040 which the trustees felt this was a great thing and so appointed him. 151 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:39,910 When he first came here he taught music history but it was his enthusiasm that 152 00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:44,130 seemed to get the students imagination and so he was absolutely keen to do 153 00:28:44,130 --> 00:28:49,190 these large projects, singing projects of various works and it didn't matter 154 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:53,890 whether you had no talent at all or you felt you had no talent at all, it was 155 00:28:53,890 --> 00:28:58,350 important for him that people were making music. His philosophy was that 156 00:28:58,350 --> 00:28:59,350 anyone could sing. 157 00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:15,620 The large choir is called the Can't Sing Choir. It's a great space for people to 158 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:19,720 come after work to have a go at singing. Perhaps they've never sung before. 159 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:24,300 Perhaps they haven't given it a go since they were little because perhaps maybe 160 00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,940 when they were young they weren't allowed to sing. 161 00:29:31,220 --> 00:29:33,680 Beautiful. That's a really lovely sound. 162 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:40,250 He was very involved in socialist reform during this time. He used to attend 163 00:29:40,250 --> 00:29:46,330 regularly lectures by Judge Bernard Shaw, as well as William Morris, and 164 00:29:46,330 --> 00:29:52,210 also conduct the Hamasist Socialist Choir. My father was influenced by 165 00:29:52,210 --> 00:29:53,930 Morris as a socialist. 166 00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:58,110 He did care very deeply. 167 00:29:58,830 --> 00:30:01,790 for some of the things that Morris wanted to happen. 168 00:30:02,170 --> 00:30:05,790 It's interesting reading them now because, of course, after all these 169 00:30:05,790 --> 00:30:07,530 years, some of them are happening. 170 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:13,450 And Morris, I remember, had said at about this time, when my father was in 171 00:30:13,450 --> 00:30:20,410 his house, that he wanted people who did hard manual 172 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:27,370 labor, coal miners and rail women, to have very good 173 00:30:29,909 --> 00:30:36,770 so that it made up for the fact that they were doing really very 174 00:30:36,770 --> 00:30:39,950 unpleasant jobs to earn their living. 175 00:30:50,030 --> 00:30:54,490 The Morley Chamber Choir also encapsulates what Holst wanted to do. 176 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,560 People are from all walks of life and so within the choir we have students, we 177 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:12,380 have costume makers, we have people who are producers, we have a barrister, we 178 00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:13,119 have a cleaner. 179 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:19,960 So Holst was very much into the idea of socialism and music being for 180 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,400 everyone. He wanted to give people, enrich their lives. 181 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:31,700 and politically and artistically. And in the early 1890s, he used to deliver the 182 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:36,800 socialist work on his bicycle, sometimes with his trombone hanging out the back 183 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,800 in a rucksack. 184 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,380 And he was one of the few composers who worked in the East End of London at a 185 00:31:53,380 --> 00:31:56,560 time when he could really have done without it because he was so hard 186 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,380 -pressed teaching at Morley. He believed in it, that it was a worthwhile thing to 187 00:32:01,380 --> 00:32:05,780 do. He brought the working class in, so-called, the music of Bach. 188 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,220 For him, success was irrelevant. 189 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,660 What mattered was that you did your job. If you were a composer, you composed 190 00:32:13,660 --> 00:32:16,280 whether you were successful at it or not. 191 00:32:16,750 --> 00:32:20,630 whether you appreciate it or not, but you should do what you want to do. 192 00:32:20,930 --> 00:32:25,250 Now, this singles him out very differently from all the other people 193 00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:30,030 who have become famous and well-known. It almost consigns him to oblivion. 194 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:18,710 If you say Morley College now, people are used to the very high standard of 195 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:20,030 music making that goes on. 196 00:33:20,390 --> 00:33:23,230 But they were real beginners in those days. 197 00:33:23,950 --> 00:33:26,510 Some of them couldn't read their notes. 198 00:33:26,970 --> 00:33:28,850 He tried to teach them. 199 00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:34,410 And some of them really didn't make an awfully nice sound on their instruments. 200 00:33:34,750 --> 00:33:40,710 I remember there was one woman who had a paralyzed right arm. 201 00:33:41,290 --> 00:33:48,140 And she had... play the violin by leaning against the wall with 202 00:33:48,140 --> 00:33:52,020 her paralyzed arm and moving the violin to and fro. 203 00:33:52,460 --> 00:33:58,880 But my father, yes, don't frown, it was all right, because my father put her 204 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,100 among other violinists who could play, and so she did very little damage. 205 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,280 And of course it was the making of her life. 206 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:21,120 And it was primarily because of his health that in 1903 he set off for 207 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,800 Algeria and the Sahara with 50 pounds given him by Vaughan Williams. 208 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,699 And there he lived in the street of the Oulad Nails, the street of the so-called 209 00:34:31,699 --> 00:34:33,400 dancing girls. 210 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,640 Bye. 211 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,680 what now 212 00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:07,470 This whole idea of using repetitive patterns, particularly repetitive 213 00:40:07,470 --> 00:40:11,930 rhythmic patterns, to create a hypnotic, mesmeric, meditative effect, something 214 00:40:11,930 --> 00:40:15,070 that circles round rather than travelling in a straight line. 215 00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:17,930 This is something that he was onto way in advance. 216 00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:22,590 The minimalists, John Adams or Steve Reich, Philip Glass. 217 00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:27,990 And again, you have composers today like Harrison Birtwistle and Mark Anthony 218 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:29,670 Turnage. Hollywood. 219 00:40:30,410 --> 00:40:33,850 John Williams' film scores wouldn't be John Williams' film scores without the 220 00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:37,050 example of the way Holst particularly writes for The Wind and the Brass. 221 00:40:37,890 --> 00:40:42,870 Wonderfully clear ears and amazing abilities to recreate just even the 222 00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:44,110 simplest sounds and textures. 223 00:40:44,570 --> 00:40:49,490 That, surely, it has to be Holst. Holst is the grandfather of all this sort of 224 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:50,490 thing. 225 00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:56,630 And in his choral writing, especially about death, he casts a long shadow over 226 00:40:56,630 --> 00:41:01,440 Walton, Britain, tip it with some of the most heartfelt coral writing ever 227 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,040 profound yet utterly simple 228 00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:57,700 Some people say, oh, did you take two whole years to write one work? 229 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:03,940 But the poor man was still earning his living teaching three schools and having 230 00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:10,600 spent all day in a school, would then get onto a bus and go to Morley College 231 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:17,500 and teach his grown-up amateurs, choir and orchestra, composition 232 00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,420 classes, in the evening. 233 00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:25,460 And the only time he had for composing then was at weekends and in the month of 234 00:43:25,460 --> 00:43:26,460 August. 235 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,900 You'll remember that he was an ex-trombone player, that he'd begun 236 00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:47,300 earning his living playing trombone. 237 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,800 so that bandsmen's music was very much part of his working life. 238 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:59,920 I think it's the beginning of his real individual style of 239 00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:05,100 writing, because he'd only recently grown out of writing Bad Imitation 240 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:09,940 Wagner, and with the influence of Purcell, one of his very favourite 241 00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:15,140 composers, and the influence of the folk songs that he'd learnt when Vaughan 242 00:44:15,140 --> 00:44:16,340 Williams collected them, 243 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,480 you get this beginning of the genuine host. 244 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:55,280 I remember he told me he used to borrow Russian books, not in Russian, from his 245 00:44:55,280 --> 00:45:01,260 friend Vaughan Williams, and he'd prop them up, and then he'd get so used to 246 00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:06,660 the bits where he wasn't wanted that he'd read, and when he could recognize a 247 00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:12,180 cue going on, he'd raise his trombone and come in exactly the right moment. 248 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:58,160 His chief job, when he began, however, was playing in the music hall, end of 249 00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,160 the pier bands. 250 00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:05,160 Brighton, Eastbourne, which is a bit grim, three shows a day, but he probably 251 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,200 played for many of the great music hall stars in the East End at the end of the 252 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,200 19th century. 253 00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:13,960 But if she turns her head like so, something doing, don't you know? 254 00:46:14,420 --> 00:46:17,320 Every little movement tells a tale. 255 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:38,420 If you're happy, tell to you all the 256 00:46:38,420 --> 00:46:43,260 wonderful things that his first wife goes to do. 257 00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:46,980 Don't stop crying. 258 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,840 If you do, you are a threat. 259 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:56,500 Grab him by the whiskers, swing him round the room and say, is your first 260 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:57,500 wife happy? 261 00:47:00,110 --> 00:47:03,190 And it was billed as a kind of Hungarian orchestra. 262 00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:08,670 And they were all ordinary English musicians, but they were ordered in the 263 00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:12,730 interval when they walked around and had a drink at the bar, they had to talk in 264 00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:17,110 thick foreign accents so that people would think they were real Hungarians. 265 00:47:18,050 --> 00:47:21,170 And they liked this. It was all a bit of a laugh because they're all just young 266 00:47:21,170 --> 00:47:22,290 chaps, really, you know. 267 00:47:23,370 --> 00:47:28,230 And of course, Holst, with his name at that time, Gustavus von Holst, sounded 268 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:29,870 very Central European. 269 00:47:30,310 --> 00:47:33,970 And I think somebody said to him, with a name like that, you're going to go a 270 00:47:33,970 --> 00:47:35,470 long way in British music. 271 00:47:45,310 --> 00:47:51,480 The problem for all English composers at the end of the 19th century was the 272 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,620 complete dominance of the German symphonic sound. 273 00:47:55,460 --> 00:47:58,460 Brahms, for example, and particularly Wagner. 274 00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:05,840 So the discovery by Cecil Sharp, Vaughan Williams and Holst of a huge treasure 275 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,860 house of English folk songs was of crucial importance. 276 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:40,080 a woman called lucy broadwood published the first ever collection of british 277 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:46,440 folk songs the way the melodies were constructed the irregular rhythms the 278 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,720 modal harmonies it was all like a breath of fresh air 279 00:49:38,670 --> 00:49:41,910 As a composer, you do wonder, what language shall I speak in? 280 00:49:42,730 --> 00:49:47,830 And I think when you first start, you're naturally going to copy other people 281 00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:51,830 until you find your own language in which you can work. 282 00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:57,070 And I think Focus On gave them a chance to think, oh, this is something we can 283 00:49:57,070 --> 00:49:59,570 actually start to look at. 284 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,340 It was in the air, you know, this sense of preserving things. 285 00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:18,200 The National Trust was founded in 1895, for instance, and the rich vein of old 286 00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:23,460 English carols, not the Victorian variety, mostly German, of course, but 287 00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:27,540 from Northumberland, from East Anglia and from Cornwall, was profoundly 288 00:50:27,540 --> 00:50:29,180 important for Holst. 289 00:50:29,820 --> 00:50:33,740 It was an attempt to hold on to things before they vanished in the new 290 00:50:33,740 --> 00:50:35,000 industrial age. 291 00:50:35,950 --> 00:50:40,430 but it wasn't so much preservation as complete reinvention. 292 00:52:42,430 --> 00:52:47,730 Ironically, it was his discovery of his own language that helped spread his 293 00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:49,390 music around the globe. 294 00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,940 You have to think of Hulse as part of an alternative, anti-establishment, 295 00:54:49,940 --> 00:54:51,380 underground culture. 296 00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:57,300 He was a socialist long before it was fashionable, a vegetarian and someone 297 00:54:57,300 --> 00:55:01,660 who was fascinated by other ways of life, particularly the Indian. 298 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,620 He believed that one should be interested in other religions, not just 299 00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:25,260 our own, other mythologies, other poetry, the world of China, India, 300 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,160 Finland, Scandinavia generally, and that they could actually offer us something. 301 00:55:30,240 --> 00:55:34,180 Instead of us offering them Christianity, perhaps we could learn 302 00:55:34,180 --> 00:55:35,180 from them. 303 00:55:46,410 --> 00:55:51,250 oddly enough of all places cheltenham where he was born probably encouraged 304 00:55:51,250 --> 00:55:56,030 him to develop this world view it was full of people who had worked in the 305 00:55:56,030 --> 00:56:01,070 indian civil service or the army and retired to cheltenham from india 306 00:56:26,060 --> 00:56:30,840 cheltenham was very famous for its particular quality of its curries that 307 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,780 were served at the promenade so there was definitely an indian background to 308 00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:38,160 cheltenham there would be people who had been to india knew it very very well 309 00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:01,860 But Holst was interested not merely in the philosophy of Hinduism, but in its 310 00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:07,260 sense of ritual and dance, which was often reflected in his own ballet music. 311 01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:51,320 He even learned Sanskrit and wrote many major works based on the Ramayana, 312 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:56,700 Mahabharata and the Rig Veda poems, works which were central to Hindu 313 01:01:56,700 --> 01:01:57,700 philosophy. 314 01:02:22,990 --> 01:02:27,990 This poem invokes the God that will guide us along the roads of this world 315 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:30,250 to the roads of the next. 316 01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:51,680 Perhaps the most important teaching job Holst undertook, again, you see, he 317 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:56,940 needed to earn money to be able to find the time to compose, was here at St 318 01:04:56,940 --> 01:05:02,060 Paul's Girls' School on Brook Green in Hammersmith, along the road from where 319 01:05:02,060 --> 01:05:04,600 he had conducted the Hammersmith Socialist Choir. 320 01:05:20,750 --> 01:05:25,230 And, of course, he wrote music for the school orchestra, the St Paul Suite, of 321 01:05:25,230 --> 01:05:29,430 course, and right at the very end of his life, the Brook Green Suite. 322 01:06:00,330 --> 01:06:04,350 When Holst taught here, the school, a girls' school, was new. 323 01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:10,730 It had opened only ten years before, in 1904, but that in itself was also 324 01:06:10,730 --> 01:06:14,550 something quite revolutionary, and it was Frances Grey, the first High 325 01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:18,270 Mistress. It was her inspiration to actually appoint somebody as director of 326 01:06:18,270 --> 01:06:24,370 music who was really new on the scene, not just somebody who was in the 327 01:06:24,370 --> 01:06:27,170 establishment. Of course, that was high Edwardian England in those days. 328 01:06:27,660 --> 01:06:33,900 very establishment and very, well, fixed in its moral standings. But she somehow 329 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:39,340 saw in this young man, he was barely 30, in fact, yes, 31 when he was appointed, 330 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,420 somebody who could be, first of all, a great educator, because he'd already 331 01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:49,880 given the theory out that he wanted music to be enjoyed by all, not just the 332 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,800 elitist, the way it is sometimes seen. 333 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,120 And Francis Gray appointed him. 334 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,300 to be this leading light, avant-garde composer. 335 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:13,820 Almost inevitably, I vow to thee my country has become virtually the school 336 01:07:13,820 --> 01:07:19,180 anthem. But I sometimes wonder if they have the faintest notion how much Holst 337 01:07:19,180 --> 01:07:20,700 hated those words. 338 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,040 It was useful for him to have the job at St Paul's because it paid his rent. 339 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,260 I mean, it was a job to him. 340 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:18,960 I don't think people made a great fuss of him. As a composer, he wasn't feted 341 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:20,700 the way composers are these days. 342 01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:24,040 He didn't give the impression of being a great composer. 343 01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:26,100 He was much loved in the school. 344 01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:29,140 Everyone knew him as Gussie. 345 01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:34,620 And we saw him around, but... 346 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:39,120 You didn't have the feeling that you were, even to the extent that you have 347 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,399 with Vaughan Williams, that you were in the presence of someone rather special. 348 01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:47,859 Well, this is the so-called Holst Room at St Paul's Girls' School, which Gustav 349 01:08:47,859 --> 01:08:49,620 Holst designed for himself. 350 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:54,220 And it was in this room that he would have written nearly all his works, 351 01:08:54,319 --> 01:08:58,420 especially The Planets, as we know, was begun in this room. But thereby hangs a 352 01:08:58,420 --> 01:08:59,580 very interesting tale. 353 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,740 Holst always wrote directly for the orchestra. 354 01:09:03,340 --> 01:09:05,880 Not piano first, then orchestrate later. 355 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:11,380 But because of his crippling neuritis, he actually had a pen strapped to his 356 01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:13,560 middle finger to enable him to write at all. 357 01:09:13,899 --> 01:09:19,779 He had two young ladies from the school, Nora Day and Valli Lasker, waiting at 358 01:09:19,779 --> 01:09:21,120 the other end of the room, as it were. 359 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,979 As soon as a page of the score was finished, they would quickly make a 360 01:09:24,979 --> 01:09:29,500 piano reduction and try bits out for him, so that he could hear what he had 361 01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:33,790 written. I found the actual score here in a cupboard a few years back. 362 01:09:34,050 --> 01:09:38,189 And so The Planets was in fact first performed in this room. 363 01:09:38,490 --> 01:09:40,450 Four hands, one piano. 364 01:10:50,530 --> 01:10:53,750 The school does still possess a very few of the manuscripts. 365 01:10:54,330 --> 01:10:57,030 This is very interesting, because this is what everybody in the world knows as 366 01:10:57,030 --> 01:11:00,330 the St Paul's Suite, which, of course, he wrote for the senior girls in the 367 01:11:00,330 --> 01:11:02,990 school, a very difficult virtuoso piece of a string orchestra. 368 01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:04,730 But it's called the Suite in C. 369 01:11:05,550 --> 01:11:08,590 And, in fact, I had no idea that it was called Suite in C originally. 370 01:11:09,350 --> 01:11:14,390 It's exactly the score that we know. And there are dozens and dozens of 371 01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:18,170 alterations to his original, extremely neat manuscript. 372 01:11:18,970 --> 01:11:25,490 Cuts, bar numbers changed, extra voices added in. And this room was kept 373 01:11:25,490 --> 01:11:28,950 superheated for him at the weekends because of his arm pains. 374 01:11:29,610 --> 01:11:34,550 It was kept superheated and he was fed and watered by his wife and daughter, as 375 01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:38,990 far as we know, who would see him through his work until about tea time, 376 01:11:39,090 --> 01:11:43,050 sensible hour on a Sunday afternoon, five o'clock, off he'd toddle back to 377 01:11:43,050 --> 01:11:44,050 home round the corner. 378 01:12:02,060 --> 01:12:07,320 But it's the sound of that suite that is so shocking. On the one hand, familiar, 379 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,360 almost predictable string writing, and suddenly something altogether 380 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,160 unfamiliar, 30 years before Benjamin Britten wrote like that. 381 01:12:16,820 --> 01:12:19,800 Where on earth does that sound come from? 382 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,120 Holst used to go on long walking expeditions into the English countryside 383 01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:49,700 with his friend Vaughan Williams. 384 01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:54,640 Ironically, neither of them much cared for these walks, Vaughan Williams 385 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,300 because of his bulk, Holst because of his very poor health. 386 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:04,520 But one day they came across the village of Thackstead in Essex and Holst went 387 01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,980 into this enormous church and what should he see hanging there but the red 388 01:16:08,980 --> 01:16:09,980 flag. 389 01:16:43,470 --> 01:16:46,010 I think Helst found Thaxton instantly attractive. 390 01:16:46,370 --> 01:16:49,550 It was a place which lots of London socialists, in fact, wandered through 391 01:16:49,550 --> 01:16:52,990 with that great habit of walking in the countryside that was characteristic of 392 01:16:52,990 --> 01:16:56,470 the early 20th century. Lots of people wandered into Thaxton and were instantly 393 01:16:56,470 --> 01:17:00,030 hooked. It was a combination of the music, because even before Helst 394 01:17:00,030 --> 01:17:03,530 arrived, there had been an attempt to revive a new kind of church music in the 395 01:17:03,530 --> 01:17:07,230 parish church. The colour, decorating the church with banners. 396 01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,860 hangings, new bits of furniture with decoration on them, and the beauty of 397 01:17:17,860 --> 01:17:21,660 the services, an attempt to recreate an intense religious experience with 398 01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:24,140 incense and processions. 399 01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:28,160 It all came together in a heady mix, I think, for anyone who arrived, and with 400 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:32,220 the politics absolutely at the centre, because the sermons were almost always 401 01:17:32,220 --> 01:17:33,220 political. 402 01:17:39,620 --> 01:17:44,400 And the sermons were given, preached, by one of the most remarkable priests in 403 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,960 the early part of the 20th century, known as the Red Vicar, Conrad Noll. 404 01:17:50,020 --> 01:17:55,140 His politics were very, for the day, very, very left-wing, almost bordering 405 01:17:55,140 --> 01:17:56,140 on communism. 406 01:17:56,300 --> 01:18:02,500 He introduced a red flag into the chancel, as well as a green one, 407 01:18:02,620 --> 01:18:03,620 strangely enough. 408 01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:10,180 The red flag at the time of some riots for social justice to, you know, the 409 01:18:10,180 --> 01:18:11,840 church is backing you. 410 01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:17,540 and the green one to show his support for what he felt was unfair treatment of 411 01:18:17,540 --> 01:18:18,398 the Irish. 412 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:24,820 Holst at one point wanted to build a tennis court for his wife and daughter 413 01:18:24,820 --> 01:18:28,980 and for their friends so that they could play tennis on a Sunday afternoon and he 414 01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:32,940 lived in Monk Street and there was an adjoining small piece of land which was 415 01:18:32,940 --> 01:18:39,880 suitable and so he applied to the farmer and said, you know, could I 416 01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:40,880 buy this piece of land? 417 01:18:41,470 --> 01:18:45,670 He was met with a stern refusal, Farmer believing that he was a German spy, 418 01:18:46,130 --> 01:18:50,390 knowing of his relationship with Conrad Noll, who he completely disapproved of, 419 01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:56,030 disapproved of popish ways, absolutely refused point blank to sell him the 420 01:18:56,030 --> 01:19:00,110 piece of land, and declared something along the lines of, you know, if you 421 01:19:00,110 --> 01:19:04,810 think I'm going to see Beelzebub on the one hand and the Pope of Rome on the 422 01:19:04,810 --> 01:19:10,570 other playing lawn tennis on my land on the Sabbath, you know, no fear. 423 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,980 At the time, the leading lights, the church wardens and so on, had the front 424 01:19:16,980 --> 01:19:18,840 seats in the nave. 425 01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,940 The workers and the poorer people were behind, and he changed all that. 426 01:19:23,220 --> 01:19:27,580 And so you could say he put down the mighty from their seat and exalted the 427 01:19:27,580 --> 01:19:28,499 humble and meek. 428 01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:32,220 He was a militant socialist and thought that at times eggs might have to be 429 01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:37,780 broken. And he sees himself as a great anti-imperialist. He wants to see a 430 01:19:37,780 --> 01:19:40,120 commonwealth of nations across the world. 431 01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:44,480 And we find in Noel's writings about God, continual use of musical language, 432 01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:50,440 the Trinity, which for him symbolized the unification of nations, both being 433 01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:52,480 separate but also one whole. 434 01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:58,060 He describes as God being a chord, a rich chord, much more resonant than a 435 01:19:58,060 --> 01:19:59,060 single note. 436 01:19:59,180 --> 01:20:02,660 And we find him talking about the implementation of the will of God on 437 01:20:02,660 --> 01:20:04,660 earth being the work of God's orchestra. 438 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:23,620 Music and song and dance in particular have been part of man's social life and 439 01:20:23,620 --> 01:20:25,820 ritual life for centuries. 440 01:20:26,680 --> 01:20:28,340 We're talking about 1910. 441 01:20:29,340 --> 01:20:34,540 The revival of Morris dancing was just beginning, and it was part of the arts 442 01:20:34,540 --> 01:20:37,640 and crafts movement of William Morris and Gustav Holst. 443 01:20:43,140 --> 01:20:47,180 People have said to me, Why are you dancing in church? 444 01:20:47,420 --> 01:20:48,720 What is this Morris dancing? 445 01:20:48,940 --> 01:20:49,919 Isn't it pagan? 446 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:55,960 And I said, what better way of showing your skills than to dance 447 01:20:55,960 --> 01:21:00,920 if you are a believer in front of the altar of your God? 448 01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:13,060 That, again, is a huge legacy that we were given by Gustav Holst. 449 01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:20,140 People not unkindly referred to him as Mr. 450 01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:22,160 Fon or the German. 451 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:29,120 Baxter became a publishing center. 452 01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:35,140 They set up a press that produced tracts, tracts against imperialism, 453 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:40,380 tracts against usury, a new vision of church and politics to the nation as a 454 01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:44,920 whole. So he makes a great distinction between the flag of St. George as the 455 01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,220 flag of the English and the Union Jack, which is a token of imperialism, which 456 01:21:49,220 --> 01:21:53,440 is not to be allowed in the church, is something that is to be associated only 457 01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:59,160 with the authoritarian and nasty side of the Church of England's association with 458 01:21:59,160 --> 01:21:59,799 the state. 459 01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,360 At the same time, although he's a Catholic in his religion, he can't stand 460 01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,460 the Pope for that reason. The Pope is a fascist. 461 01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:10,720 He would oppose any formal celebration of Empire, and indeed on Empire Day he 462 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:15,060 would pin notices to the church door announcing that at noon the bell will 463 01:22:15,060 --> 01:22:18,740 toll for the victims of imperialism. And that became a very sore spot with many 464 01:22:18,740 --> 01:22:21,700 of his critics and led immensely to the Battle of the Flags. 465 01:22:22,900 --> 01:22:26,180 And this reflects the fact that during the First World War, Noel had taken up 466 01:22:26,180 --> 01:22:29,040 hanging the flags of the Allied forces in the church. 467 01:22:29,340 --> 01:22:31,340 At the time, one of those was Ireland. 468 01:22:31,820 --> 01:22:32,960 And by the... 469 01:22:33,710 --> 01:22:36,890 At the end of the war, possibly slightly afterwards, he'd replaced the Irish 470 01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:39,250 green flag by the tricolour of Sinn Fein. 471 01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:42,590 More and more people rolled into Thaxton, and by the evening, there were 472 01:22:42,590 --> 01:22:45,810 about 3,000 protesters who gathered for a meeting at the Moot Hall, or the 473 01:22:45,810 --> 01:22:48,210 Guildhall in the main street, to protest. 474 01:22:48,590 --> 01:22:52,530 He writes an extraordinary letter to his wife that evening, who wasn't present in 475 01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:56,470 the town, saying that it's a very serious situation, he's heard rumours 476 01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:59,710 that the Black and Tans might be sending assassination squads over from Ireland, 477 01:22:59,790 --> 01:23:02,210 but that nonetheless, he's going to see it out. 478 01:23:03,050 --> 01:23:06,990 And the importance of Gustav Holst in all of this, because of his obvious 479 01:23:06,990 --> 01:23:11,450 sympathy for what Conrad Noll was trying to achieve, after all, Holst was a 480 01:23:11,450 --> 01:23:15,350 friend of that other militant socialist, George Bernard Shaw, cannot be 481 01:23:15,350 --> 01:23:19,290 overestimated. And perhaps the most emblematic example of the relationship 482 01:23:19,290 --> 01:23:23,730 between Holst and Conrad Noll was the story of the song known as The General 483 01:23:23,730 --> 01:23:24,730 Dance. 484 01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:41,900 Oh my love, 485 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,740 sing, oh my love 486 01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:59,120 found this poem, a medieval poem, in which Christ's relationship with the 487 01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:03,540 world is encapsulated in the metaphor of the dance, and read it one time from the 488 01:24:03,540 --> 01:24:07,100 pulpit. He then ended up speaking to Hulse about it, showed him the original 489 01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:11,180 tune, which the both dismissed as not up to much, and Hulse took it away to 490 01:24:11,180 --> 01:24:12,580 compose a new one. 491 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,860 A copy of the poem was displayed in the church, and some of those opposed to 492 01:24:17,860 --> 01:24:20,380 Noel complained to the bishop of this, saying, the secular poem. 493 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,220 was attached to the wall of the church, and it noted great pleasure in solemnly 494 01:24:25,220 --> 01:24:28,760 informing the bishop that this secular poem was in fact a widely used part of 495 01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:32,440 Anglican worship already, and that he would take it down if he insisted, but 496 01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,900 perhaps the bishop might like to reconsider, which he duly did. 497 01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:19,660 So, at Whitsun festivals, when he brought down singers from Morley College 498 01:25:19,660 --> 01:25:23,420 and St Paul's Girls' School, and at the gatherings of the Morris dancers from 499 01:25:23,420 --> 01:25:27,600 all over East Anglia, which took place regularly in Thackstead, it was typical 500 01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:32,220 of Holst that he should take something really quite workaday, that would be 501 01:25:32,220 --> 01:25:36,180 known by all the agricultural workers thereabouts, for instance, and then 502 01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:38,880 transform it into something altogether magical. 503 01:25:58,320 --> 01:25:59,600 We'll be right back. 504 01:27:22,990 --> 01:27:27,390 always enjoyed receiving commissions, especially those more associated with 505 01:27:27,390 --> 01:27:28,390 the working class. 506 01:27:28,670 --> 01:27:31,530 He always wanted to make himself useful. 507 01:27:31,970 --> 01:27:37,610 So when a commission came along to write something for all those amateur colliery 508 01:27:37,610 --> 01:27:43,030 and factory brass bands, he jumped at it and wrote what became a competition test 509 01:27:43,030 --> 01:27:46,450 piece for the National Brass Band Festivals. 510 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:16,920 Thank you. 511 01:29:20,780 --> 01:29:21,780 Thank you. 512 01:29:50,510 --> 01:29:54,210 It's very, very important to remember that at the time Holst began writing, 513 01:29:54,470 --> 01:29:57,950 modern music, for the vast majority of people who cared about it in this 514 01:29:57,950 --> 01:29:59,010 country, was Elgar. 515 01:29:59,370 --> 01:30:01,130 Maybe also Richard Strauss. 516 01:30:01,450 --> 01:30:05,930 For an audience coming along and hearing the beginning of the planets, it's 517 01:30:05,930 --> 01:30:11,050 difficult for us to sense just how extraordinarily new this must have 518 01:30:11,050 --> 01:30:15,810 sounded. You just take a look at the score, and every single element on the 519 01:30:15,810 --> 01:30:19,410 first page, Holst is asking each instrument to do something which is... 520 01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,640 quite unlike what anybody would have expected at the time. First of all, 521 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:24,900 there's this famous rhythm. 522 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,120 And there you are, he's got the timpani playing it, fair enough, but he asks 523 01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,260 them to play it with wooden sticks instead of the usual sponge sticks, so 524 01:30:35,260 --> 01:30:37,140 it's a dry, harsh, sharp sound. 525 01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:42,160 Then he asks the violins to play the same rhythm, col legno, that's turn the 526 01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,860 bow round and hit it. 527 01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:48,710 with the back of the bow, with the wood. So you get this very imprecise tonal 528 01:30:48,710 --> 01:30:52,190 sound with this clicking, this sort of skeletal, bony kind of sound. 529 01:30:52,390 --> 01:30:55,110 Then he asks something even more extraordinary of the harps. 530 01:30:56,070 --> 01:31:00,430 Harps normally, in Romantic music, meant sort of liquid, airy sounds, but what 531 01:31:00,430 --> 01:31:03,070 Hulst is going for here is something incredibly metallic. 532 01:31:03,510 --> 01:31:07,310 He asks for them... Now, one thing you really can't do on a harp, and it's 533 01:31:07,310 --> 01:31:10,470 almost impossible on the piano, is rapid, repeated notes. 534 01:31:10,710 --> 01:31:13,750 So he has each harp dovetail. So one of them goes... 535 01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:21,480 And the other one goes... So they overlap each other so that the ear hears 536 01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:26,220 something that's technically impossible, which is two harps going... And it would 537 01:31:26,220 --> 01:31:30,540 have been a very dry, metallic, bell-like sound. Not the kind of thing 538 01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:31,760 you normally associate with a harp. 539 01:31:32,380 --> 01:31:37,740 Put all these together, add something else, a quiet roll on the gong sustained 540 01:31:37,740 --> 01:31:38,740 in the background. 541 01:31:39,020 --> 01:31:42,020 Gongs were not unknown in the music of the time, but they were usually for that 542 01:31:42,020 --> 01:31:45,180 big J. Arthur Rank effect, or the quiet death... 543 01:31:45,420 --> 01:31:50,080 chord at the end of Tchaikovsky's Pathétique Symphony but here Holst asks 544 01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:53,440 for a very very quiet so that you're just aware of this sort of sound almost 545 01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:57,600 like radio interference in the background that's not it's not just the 546 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:03,380 pure sound of this is so extraordinary as well um it's the tempo or rather the 547 01:32:03,380 --> 01:32:08,080 meter Holst asks this music for the beginning of Mars to be played in five 548 01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:13,400 four five beats to the bar and yet it's clearly a march who marches in five 549 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:18,380 beats to a bar It's all part of this extraordinary inhumanity that he's 550 01:32:18,380 --> 01:32:22,120 trying to create, the sound of something mechanical, something inhuman marching 551 01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:27,700 here. And 5-4, things in five beats at the bar, were still pretty unusual in 552 01:32:27,700 --> 01:32:29,380 English music, even in 1914. 553 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,800 My grandfather, who was a... semi-professional choral conductor, 554 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,520 remembered going round about there to a performance of Tchaikovsky's Pathétique 555 01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:38,780 Symphony, which has a movement in five beats to the bar in it, rather famously. 556 01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,700 The conductor didn't know what to do with this, so he opted for four plus 557 01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:47,680 one, like this. One, two, three, four, one. One, two, three, four, one, one. 558 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,780 And you can imagine the kind of performance that came out of that. 559 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,900 He finished Mars in the spring and early summer. 560 01:32:55,440 --> 01:33:01,780 1914 and then went on to the other movements during the next two years he 561 01:33:01,780 --> 01:33:07,740 said you know I don't think there's any hope of this being performed in wartime 562 01:33:07,740 --> 01:33:14,200 it's such a vast orchestra he knew it would be very expensive but a marvelous 563 01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:20,500 thing happened in 1918 one of his friends was the composer and patron 564 01:33:20,500 --> 01:33:26,200 of music Balfour Gardner And Balfour gave him a present 565 01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:31,720 of a rehearsal with the new Queen's Hall Orchestra 566 01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:34,680 and Adrian Bolter, conductor. 567 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:40,220 My great-uncle, Balfour Gardiner, who was a bit of a maverick, was in a way 568 01:33:40,220 --> 01:33:45,720 the sort of fairy godfather to Holst in many ways. I mean, Balfour... 569 01:33:46,990 --> 01:33:53,290 put on these amazingly prescient series of concerts at the Queen's Hall in 1912, 570 01:33:53,370 --> 01:33:58,550 1913, 1914 of contemporary English music. I mean, nobody had done that 571 01:33:58,550 --> 01:34:00,010 before with the LSO. 572 01:34:00,430 --> 01:34:04,030 He had a certain amount of private means himself. He paid for the whole damn 573 01:34:04,030 --> 01:34:05,030 thing. 574 01:34:05,110 --> 01:34:10,890 And he allowed composers of the day to suddenly to have a platform and a voice 575 01:34:10,890 --> 01:34:11,910 there at the Queen's Hall. 576 01:34:12,350 --> 01:34:15,450 And it really put English music suddenly... 577 01:34:15,930 --> 01:34:22,570 on on the map in a way that never done before um and then uh just before 578 01:34:22,570 --> 01:34:27,910 gustav holst was sent off to work for the ymca as education officer in the 579 01:34:27,910 --> 01:34:34,030 near east he came to balfour with the score of the planets and said this is it 580 01:34:34,030 --> 01:34:36,270 and baffle said i'm going to give you a performance of this 581 01:34:39,470 --> 01:34:44,150 One of the characteristics, I think, of both Holst and Vaughan Williams is that 582 01:34:44,150 --> 01:34:49,250 they were distrustful of industrial capitalism and what it brought. 583 01:34:53,030 --> 01:34:58,470 Both of them recoiled from this mechanization, not just in war, but in 584 01:34:58,470 --> 01:35:04,890 general. And I think he didn't like the sort of brutal mechanism, both in its 585 01:35:04,890 --> 01:35:08,410 manifestation in people's lives and the actual sounds it made, 586 01:35:09,580 --> 01:35:14,100 evocation of a dreadful mechanical slaughtering process an awful 587 01:35:14,100 --> 01:35:18,840 industrialized complex where people are reduced to sort of dots by the sheer 588 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,140 power and noise and brutality of the machines 589 01:35:21,140 --> 01:35:33,160 of 590 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,000 course the planets which was written in this in this very room the holster most 591 01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:37,500 of it written in this very holster um 592 01:35:38,860 --> 01:35:43,720 ...is more than just a prophetic piece. I think it does have obvious prophetic 593 01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,540 elements. But it's a very profound study of the nature of humanity altogether. 594 01:35:48,060 --> 01:35:51,900 He knew that there were forces at work to crush the human spirit. 595 01:35:52,220 --> 01:35:55,860 You know, that imperialism... Many people would have claimed that the 596 01:35:55,860 --> 01:36:00,300 imperialist project was a moral one... ...was an educative one, a civilizing 597 01:36:00,300 --> 01:36:04,440 one... ...but Holst as a socialist would no doubt have encountered the idea. 598 01:36:05,130 --> 01:36:08,970 that's much more prevalent now, that basically it was an economic project, 599 01:36:09,250 --> 01:36:12,810 and that the moral pretensions were disguised for this. 600 01:36:13,430 --> 01:36:16,830 And I think he would have seen how precisely those kind of acquisitive, 601 01:36:16,870 --> 01:36:20,910 grasping, greedy forces were the ones that had created the dark, satanic 602 01:36:20,910 --> 01:36:26,690 mills. I'd never heard his music before, and of course in those days it was very 603 01:36:26,690 --> 01:36:30,590 modern, and to us, full of discords. 604 01:36:31,010 --> 01:36:33,370 And when we did the rehearsal, I must say, 605 01:36:34,570 --> 01:36:38,350 I didn't like it very much because it sounded all discords, as if everybody 606 01:36:38,350 --> 01:36:39,350 was singing out of tune. 607 01:36:39,990 --> 01:36:46,850 But when we came to the concert itself, and I heard the whole thing in toto, so 608 01:36:46,850 --> 01:36:48,970 to speak, it was absolutely magnificent. 609 01:36:49,990 --> 01:36:54,950 I then realized I sort of appreciated it. At the same time, this little man, I 610 01:36:54,950 --> 01:36:59,210 did wonder how on earth he ever came to write anything like Mars, for instance, 611 01:36:59,310 --> 01:37:02,730 which is one of the noisiest bits of music I believe has ever been written. 612 01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:06,180 how he could have produced that. 613 01:38:54,990 --> 01:38:55,990 We are. 614 01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:49,700 Thank you. 615 01:43:49,740 --> 01:43:55,420 My father had only one attempt at writing film music, something called The 616 01:43:55,420 --> 01:43:59,560 Bells, which has long since disappeared, as far as I know. 617 01:43:59,780 --> 01:44:03,940 But his younger brother, Emil, had quite a career in Hollywood, where he was 618 01:44:03,940 --> 01:44:09,400 known as Ernest Cossart, usually in small parts, but often with famous 619 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,080 actors such as Ronald Reagan. 620 01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:12,680 Come in, come in. 621 01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:16,500 I'd like to talk to you for a little while, Mr. Monaghan. 622 01:44:17,700 --> 01:44:18,940 Is Randy here? 623 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,920 I don't want her to see me looking like this. I just want to talk to you. 624 01:44:23,260 --> 01:44:24,260 She's upstairs. 625 01:44:24,540 --> 01:44:26,120 I was just puttering around here. 626 01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:28,500 Never know what to do with myself some days. 627 01:44:29,220 --> 01:44:30,980 When Ma was alive, we'd sit and talk. 628 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:32,960 How about a cup of coffee? 629 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:35,440 No, thanks. The constable gave me some coffee. 630 01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:36,720 Well, 631 01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,820 I didn't have to go there and get drunk. No, you didn't. To tell you the truth, 632 01:44:40,900 --> 01:44:42,620 son, I've been meaning to talk to you for some time. 633 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:43,920 You won't need to. 634 01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,140 I gave myself a talking to this morning when I woke up in jail with three other 635 01:44:48,140 --> 01:44:49,140 guests of the town. 636 01:44:50,670 --> 01:44:53,970 I want a job, Mr Monaghan. Can you get me a job in the railroad? 637 01:44:54,510 --> 01:44:56,590 I've got no place on the section gang, Drake. 638 01:44:59,050 --> 01:45:00,990 I guess I will have some coffee, please. 639 01:45:01,570 --> 01:45:06,810 I think Holst had wanted to do something during the war, but of course, with his 640 01:45:06,810 --> 01:45:10,130 terrible health and terrible eyesight, he was useless for the army. 641 01:45:10,490 --> 01:45:17,290 So he volunteered to do work amongst the troops, kind of social musical work, and 642 01:45:17,290 --> 01:45:19,370 he applied to the YMCA. 643 01:45:20,060 --> 01:45:26,140 They asked him would he mind going over to Salonika and Constantinople to do 644 01:45:26,140 --> 01:45:30,400 some musical work just to boost the morale of the troops that were there. 645 01:45:30,660 --> 01:45:37,040 And he felt that the von sounded too German and he couldn't 646 01:45:37,040 --> 01:45:42,020 work for the British army with a German sounding name and that's when he dropped 647 01:45:42,020 --> 01:45:47,900 it. And I since also established that he had to pay a lot of money for it. 648 01:45:48,330 --> 01:45:51,550 And he wasn't very happy about it at all. It wasn't that he could just say, 649 01:45:51,610 --> 01:45:53,710 I'm not using my phone anymore. 650 01:45:55,470 --> 01:45:59,510 So he was again asked. First of all, they had to buy it. And secondly, they 651 01:45:59,510 --> 01:46:02,730 had to buy it again, not to use it any longer. 652 01:46:03,810 --> 01:46:08,350 And while he was traveling over there, the armistice was signed. And so the war 653 01:46:08,350 --> 01:46:09,089 was over. 654 01:46:09,090 --> 01:46:13,630 So when he got over there, there were thousands of troops hanging about with 655 01:46:13,630 --> 01:46:14,630 really nothing to do. 656 01:46:15,120 --> 01:46:19,960 So this was an opportunity for him to organise choirs, orchestras. It was like 657 01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,820 Morley College, but over in Bulgaria. 658 01:47:43,530 --> 01:47:48,990 He wasn't trying to write music to be a kind of serious composer, to write great 659 01:47:48,990 --> 01:47:52,450 masterpieces that are going to last for posterity. 660 01:47:57,730 --> 01:48:03,350 He was not interested in honours, he was not interested in awards, he didn't want 661 01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:07,510 to go to smart cocktail parties with a lot of other fancy people. 662 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,660 If music needed to be written for a choir or a Whitsun festival or whatever, 663 01:48:36,820 --> 01:48:41,100 he would write it. Or some idea he had inside of himself that he would like to 664 01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:42,660 write, that is what he did. 665 01:48:52,650 --> 01:48:55,830 He was also completely lacking in musical snobbishness. 666 01:48:56,070 --> 01:49:02,330 All music making was the same to him, so it was quite natural for him one evening 667 01:49:02,330 --> 01:49:05,770 he might be conducting the London Symphony Orchestra in the Queen's Hall 668 01:49:05,770 --> 01:49:07,190 in the professional concert. 669 01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:12,200 The next morning he might be conducting a gang of schoolgirls at St Paul's 670 01:49:12,200 --> 01:49:17,040 Girls' School, and then in the evening trying to encourage some amateurs at 671 01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:18,040 Morley College. 672 01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,920 It was all the same. He didn't distinguish between them and say, oh, 673 01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,400 this is more important than that. 674 01:49:35,210 --> 01:49:37,690 Perhaps think of Vaughan Williams as a symphonist. 675 01:49:39,630 --> 01:49:42,310 We think of Britten as an opera composer. 676 01:49:44,530 --> 01:49:49,650 And Holst did a bit of this and a bit of that, whatever took his interest. 677 01:49:50,990 --> 01:49:54,290 But there's a difference between the general public and musicians. 678 01:49:54,890 --> 01:50:00,710 For instance, he only wrote one brass band piece, the Moorside Suite, but it 679 01:50:00,710 --> 01:50:02,690 is a classic of brass band writing. 680 01:50:03,450 --> 01:50:06,670 and held in very high regard by brass band players. 681 01:50:08,490 --> 01:50:14,870 Audiences may hear or even sing in the bleak midwinter and not know who it's 682 01:50:14,870 --> 01:50:15,870 actually by. 683 01:50:22,090 --> 01:50:24,590 They know it's good music, they sing it at Christmas. 684 01:50:25,090 --> 01:50:28,910 They don't necessarily associate it with the name Gustav Holst. 685 01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:41,500 He was particularly influenced by places, Hammersmith, where the river 686 01:51:41,500 --> 01:51:46,620 goes past the bustling life in the markets there, and Egdon Heath, 687 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:51,860 wonderful evocation of that part of Dorset where he liked to roam across the 688 01:51:51,860 --> 01:51:55,760 countryside. And I think that was part of his philosophy in a way, that 689 01:51:55,760 --> 01:52:01,500 regardless of the human life that goes on on Egdon Heath in Dorset, the land 690 01:52:01,500 --> 01:52:04,680 itself remains the same, would remain there for centuries. 691 01:52:05,150 --> 01:52:07,250 will be there regardless of what we do. 692 01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:08,650 We come and go. 693 01:52:38,570 --> 01:52:45,390 My father had become a great admirer and acquaintance of Thomas Hardy, for whom 694 01:52:45,390 --> 01:52:50,350 Egerton Heath was an area not only of inspiration for several of his novels, 695 01:52:50,490 --> 01:52:57,070 but a place of witchcraft and superstition, and in winter a no-man's 696 01:52:57,070 --> 01:52:59,170 land that was very, very bleak. 697 01:52:59,670 --> 01:53:04,790 Sadly, Hardy died before the first performance, which was greeted with 698 01:53:04,790 --> 01:53:07,730 complete indifference, even a few boos. 699 01:55:00,810 --> 01:55:04,290 For much of his life, Holst was convinced he was a failure. 700 01:55:19,410 --> 01:55:24,710 Much of his music was not performed professionally, or when performed, more 701 01:55:24,710 --> 01:55:29,230 or less instantly forgotten, some of it not published even today. 702 01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:45,680 He had high hopes, but he failed to win various new music competitions he'd 703 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:51,200 entered, especially with his early opera Sita, the influence of Sanskrit and 704 01:55:51,200 --> 01:55:52,200 Hinduism again. 705 01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:58,580 And so he turned for consolation to the study of something called Theosophy, a 706 01:55:58,580 --> 01:56:00,700 philosophy he had learned from his stepmother. 707 01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:06,320 Theosophy was founded in the year Holst was born by a Russian immigrant called 708 01:56:06,320 --> 01:56:07,580 Helena Blavatsky. 709 01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:11,640 It was a doctrine she claimed to have learned from a monk in Tibet. 710 01:56:11,980 --> 01:56:17,040 It became a huge thing. It was very much anti-establishment feeling. It was anti 711 01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,040 -church, the established church, that is. 712 01:56:19,660 --> 01:56:22,160 And she was also interested in phrenology. 713 01:56:22,780 --> 01:56:26,760 Phrenology was the study of the bumps on people's heads, and you can actually 714 01:56:26,760 --> 01:56:32,620 still find porcelain heads with bumps on it so that people could sort of work out 715 01:56:32,620 --> 01:56:36,280 a basic thesis. But obviously, mostly, it was... 716 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:40,980 feeling people's bumps and deciding what it meant. I mean, the phonology that 717 01:56:40,980 --> 01:56:47,460 Host had in 1892, the year that he knew he had failed to get into a music 718 01:56:47,460 --> 01:56:52,800 college and therefore felt a complete failure, 719 01:56:52,980 --> 01:56:56,400 wondering what his destiny was going to be. 720 01:57:13,070 --> 01:57:14,790 And what was his destiny? 721 01:57:15,150 --> 01:57:16,690 How was his life going to unfold? 722 01:57:17,010 --> 01:57:18,330 What was the nature of himself? 723 01:57:19,130 --> 01:57:22,750 Because he had fallen into one of these terrible depressions that he was liable 724 01:57:22,750 --> 01:57:24,150 to have from time to time. 725 01:57:24,350 --> 01:57:29,690 It was only in desperation, in one of his moments of terrible desperation in 726 01:57:29,690 --> 01:57:35,190 1913, that his friend Clifford Bax, who was another theosophist, a poet and a 727 01:57:35,190 --> 01:57:38,550 dramatist, suggested to him that he investigate astrology. 728 01:57:39,470 --> 01:57:46,270 The astrological map... is a picture of the self at birth and the 729 01:57:46,270 --> 01:57:51,310 way it develops it will develop according to your character character is 730 01:57:51,310 --> 01:57:58,150 destiny and the astrological map that he prepared for himself fortified 731 01:57:58,150 --> 01:58:02,610 him in his work and that what he was doing was the only thing that he could 732 01:58:02,610 --> 01:58:07,930 do so he went to astrology to find himself at the moment when he thought 733 01:58:07,930 --> 01:58:12,150 he'd lost everything And there at the beginning of the sixth movement, Uranus 734 01:58:12,150 --> 01:58:17,190 the magician, we actually have Holst with a rather crafty little bit of code 735 01:58:17,190 --> 01:58:22,030 writing, showing that he himself is the magician. This is who the magician is, 736 01:58:22,090 --> 01:58:25,490 it's me. And the way he does that is with this famous little motif. 737 01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:33,990 Now that's G, E flat, A, B. 738 01:58:34,860 --> 01:58:38,720 But in German notation, which of course has to be more complicated than English, 739 01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:45,340 that's G, S, for E flat, E double S, A, H, 740 01:58:45,660 --> 01:58:47,020 which is what they call our B. 741 01:58:47,780 --> 01:58:54,780 G, S, A, H are the musical letters of the 742 01:58:54,780 --> 01:58:58,160 name Gustav Holst. And in fact, the first and last letters, of course, are 743 01:58:58,160 --> 01:59:03,800 G, H, his initials. So there he is saying, it's me, I'm the magician. 744 01:59:04,410 --> 01:59:07,250 the creator of this astonishing Technicolor score. 745 01:59:07,630 --> 01:59:09,390 Composers are magicians. 746 01:59:09,710 --> 01:59:13,110 It's quite obvious they are magicians because they conjure things out of 747 01:59:13,110 --> 01:59:18,490 nowhere and write and construct monuments in sound which you can't 748 01:59:18,490 --> 01:59:19,490 touch. 749 01:59:19,570 --> 01:59:24,210 This is a magical process and most people don't understand it. 750 01:59:24,490 --> 01:59:28,870 So you can understand poetry, you can understand painting, but many people 751 01:59:28,870 --> 01:59:33,570 can't understand or have any feeling about what do composers do. 752 01:59:59,630 --> 02:00:03,050 The planets music, those seven pieces for large orchestra. 753 02:00:03,730 --> 02:00:08,090 Adding the names of the planets to the titles of the movements was very much an 754 02:00:08,090 --> 02:00:09,090 afterthought. 755 02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:14,510 But considered astrologically, which Holst undoubtedly did, there is a 756 02:00:14,510 --> 02:00:15,510 specific plan. 757 02:00:16,470 --> 02:00:20,170 And the planets describe aspects of human nature. 758 02:00:21,650 --> 02:00:27,390 Perhaps a journey from the brutality, the mechanization of man, as in Mars. 759 02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:33,300 towards the enlightenment in which a buddhist a hindu such as holst himself 760 02:00:33,300 --> 02:00:39,780 believed the mystery of the self in a mysterious and infinite universe 761 02:00:39,780 --> 02:00:44,780 that is what he tells in that final movement called neptune 762 02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:56,320 And then on the great day, we all assembled in the manager's office, and 763 02:01:56,320 --> 02:02:01,480 we were told to stand up when Mr. Holtz came in. He was a small man with very 764 02:02:01,480 --> 02:02:06,140 thick lens glasses, and my impression was he did everything at the double. He 765 02:02:06,140 --> 02:02:07,140 sort of rushed about. 766 02:02:07,900 --> 02:02:12,840 And for Neptune, we really were supposed to be voices in the far distance. 767 02:02:13,140 --> 02:02:14,740 I think we were supposed to be mermaids. 768 02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:19,880 And we weren't seen. We sang behind the stage, at the back. 769 02:02:20,590 --> 02:02:23,790 And we just, we didn't sing words, we just sang to ah. 770 02:02:25,010 --> 02:02:30,190 And as it finishes, towards the end, the voices get quieter and quieter and they 771 02:02:30,190 --> 02:02:32,350 die away and that's the end of the whole work. 772 02:02:32,590 --> 02:02:37,710 And what happened was we slowly walked out of the building while someone very, 773 02:02:37,830 --> 02:02:39,310 very slowly closed the door. 774 02:06:00,140 --> 02:06:05,280 He was never the same after the accident way back in 1923 when he fell off the 775 02:06:05,280 --> 02:06:06,560 podium in Reading. 776 02:06:07,220 --> 02:06:09,480 He never really recovered from that. 777 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:11,280 He had the neuritis. 778 02:06:11,660 --> 02:06:17,000 And in his last years, when he had the operation, it was called a duodenal 779 02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:19,680 ulcer, which is what he was suffering from. 780 02:06:20,280 --> 02:06:24,100 But then people have said to me, of course you know it was really cancer. 781 02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:30,150 And some years ago, mentioning cancer wasn't done. One didn't speak of it. But 782 02:06:30,150 --> 02:06:34,370 nowadays everybody speaks about cancer as a well-known disease that has to be 783 02:06:34,370 --> 02:06:40,010 eradicated. But some kind of cancer of the abdomen he had, I think. 784 02:06:40,530 --> 02:06:44,790 And everybody expected him to recover from the operation, but it was just too 785 02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:47,030 much for his stamina, constitution. 786 02:06:47,550 --> 02:06:48,550 He couldn't do it. 787 02:07:23,370 --> 02:07:30,310 a last work then a farewell perhaps the lyric movement for viola written when he 788 02:07:30,310 --> 02:07:35,550 was already very ill but not published until fourteen years after his death 789 02:09:21,520 --> 02:09:25,160 I think he's a great inspirer to be intellectually curious and as open 790 02:09:25,160 --> 02:09:28,960 -minded and as wide-reaching in what you explore as possible. 791 02:09:29,300 --> 02:09:32,900 He clearly left a huge mark on Benjamin Britten. That extraordinary ability 792 02:09:32,900 --> 02:09:36,400 Holst has to take even a familiar colour on the orchestra and make it sound like 793 02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:37,379 a new discovery. 794 02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:41,020 That's something Britten learnt from the wonderful text, quite un-English, 795 02:09:41,020 --> 02:09:44,240 textual clarity that he has, almost analytical clarity. 796 02:09:44,700 --> 02:09:47,960 He described one of his pieces as like being the sun rising on a frosty 797 02:09:47,960 --> 02:09:48,960 morning. 798 02:09:49,100 --> 02:09:52,120 It is that astonishing frosty clarity that you can hear in Hulse music. 799 02:09:58,640 --> 02:10:01,360 But at the same time, lucidly simple. 800 02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:55,500 from one who'd been his pupil at the age of eight and never forgot 801 02:12:55,500 --> 02:13:02,360 the passionate way that he taught them to sing a very simple folk song with a 802 02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:08,140 question and answer absolutely in rhythm and with very clear words 803 02:13:08,140 --> 02:13:14,320 and that has been in her mind ever since she's an old woman now 804 02:13:14,320 --> 02:13:20,030 and there are others like her who remember how he helped, 805 02:13:20,170 --> 02:13:27,070 not only just teaching them to do music, but how 806 02:13:27,070 --> 02:13:31,930 he helped without ever saying anything about it, how he helped them to realise 807 02:13:31,930 --> 02:13:37,590 that music is a part of life that can't be done without. 808 02:14:40,780 --> 02:14:41,780 No. 75747

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