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They used to tell me, no one's going to
believe me.
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They're going to say, like, I wanted it,
it's my fault.
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I just thought, oh, why bother?
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Like, who's actually going to listen?
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I was 13.
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I was maybe about 12.
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13. I would have been around 14 at the
time.
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I have listened to children telling me
the most harrowing things I've ever
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heard in my whole professional career.
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They talked about being used to
transport drugs across the country.
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They talked about being passed around
groups of young men for sexual assaults.
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I was made to sleep with different men,
and the situations you end up in is
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horrible.
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The girls were treated like criminals.
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It was like the behaviour was their own
doing.
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For some people, particularly people in
senior positions, they found it very
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difficult to accept the real scale.
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of what was going on. We were really
struck by what felt like a conspiracy of
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silence. We're talking about thousands
of girls.
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And I know more girls are being
recruited and groomed into this.
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I had to go to school like nothing had
happened.
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I was so scared to tell anyone.
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This was actually the day that I went on
the first date.
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I think it makes me feel a bit sick
because I'm actually like a child,
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to be honest.
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I was 13, he was 23.
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I grew up in London.
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My parents got divorced, and because my
parents had an abusive relationship, my
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dad wasn't really there.
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We moved to Coventry.
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Coventry is very different to London.
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Coventry is very small.
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Looking back, I think the move threw me
off a lot.
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In school, everybody already had their
friendship groups because of how late
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I'd moved in.
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So within school, I didn't really feel
like I had friends.
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There was a group chat and he popped up
to me outside of the chat and he was
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just talking to me.
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We'd be texting through the night.
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Then he said that he wanted to meet in
person.
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So we met, we went to Nando's.
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I remember him walking through the
doors. And when he walked through the
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doors, I was like, oh my gosh, like,
that's a grown man.
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I can't tell you what was going on
through my head. I think I was just
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thinking, like, you've already gone this
far. Like, you're here now.
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Like, what are you going to do, leave?
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As the conversation was going on, I told
him I'm 13.
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And he was like, that doesn't change
anything. Like, I still want to be with
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you. And then that's when we started,
like, quote unquote, going out.
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He was involved in gangs, he was
involved in drugs.
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But it was the thrill of being with a
bad boy.
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I always knew, okay, he's probably hurt
someone.
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But in terms of hurting me, I didn't
think it would get to that point.
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Where we are in the rural areas, this
beautiful countryside, and I don't think
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anyone will ever associate the fact that
there are drug gangs operating
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in these areas, but there is, and
children are being harmed.
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May is someone who I've been working
with for nearly six years now.
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She had been a victim of sexual
exploitation.
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and it started when she was 13.
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And it was just through befriending a
group of boys that are well
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known to have connections to drugs.
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I'd recently just moved to the new
secondary school.
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They knew I didn't have any friends and
they just started to speak to me saying,
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oh, you should come out with us
sometimes.
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We'll be your friends.
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And then it sort of progressed to, oh, I
think you're so lovely. I would
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literally treat you so well if you was
just my girlfriend.
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And I was like over the moon. I was
like, I've just gone from having no
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friends. Now I've got a whole group of
friends and a boyfriend.
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This is what every teenage girl wants.
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And then it was OK for the first few
weeks.
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By the time it got bad, I didn't really
see a way out.
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One night near Christmas, the three main
boys, including my boyfriend at the
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time, said to me that I needed to drink
with them.
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And then, within about five minutes, the
room started spinning.
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Really, really badly.
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They were pushing me around, videoing
me, laughing at me because I was losing
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control of my body.
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But I could see still.
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And then everything went black.
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And then I woke up and it was probably
about three and a half hours later at
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this point. As I went to get out of the
bed, I pulled the duvet back and...
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I had been completely stripped of all my
clothes. I was completely naked.
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I was just confused.
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And then I ran out the house and threw
up a lot.
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Woke up the next morning.
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And then I remember going to the toilet
and everything was
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bruised. Everything was bleeding.
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And I had to go to school like nothing
had happened.
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I didn't want to accept that I'd been
sexually abused by more than one person.
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Six years later, I'm still being
troubled by the same individuals.
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and I'm still not being heard now by the
police.
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This gang, they're hooking these young
children in. You're talking as young as
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nine, ten.
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And I know more girls are being
recruited, owner, groomed into this.
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They look so intimidating and scary, but
having a young girl there is going to
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help them get them in a lot quicker,
which is why they do it.
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I was once May.
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I was completely lost. I was
traumatised.
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I went through all that. But no one
understood.
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I was just looked at as a troubled
teenager.
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And this is kind of what made me want to
set up a charity.
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It was around kind of 2018.
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There was a number of referrals coming
in, so it was quite clear there was
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something going on because there was a
pattern of behaviours. Something wasn't
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right.
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It wasn't just sexual exploitation, it
was criminal exploitation as well. So
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there were other things girls were asked
to do as well, holding on to drugs, the
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selling of drugs.
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You know, I wanted to raise this and
highlight it.
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And you just felt there was this barrier
of acceptance that this was
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actually happening.
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We were really struck by what felt like
a conspiracy of silence.
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We're talking about thousands of girls
that are experiencing incredibly violent
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situations, and yet often when we were
in circles talking about the experiences
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of children who were criminally
exploited, girls were not coming up.
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Quite similar to the late 1990s, early
2000s, when the efforts were not made at
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the time to intervene in grooming gangs
across the country, and it was...
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completely overlooked.
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Most of the perpetrators were men of
Pakistani origin.
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Three earlier reports which had clearly
stated the scale of the abuse were
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either ignored or suppressed.
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For groomer gangs, the primary purpose
is often the sexual exploitation of
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those girls.
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But the primary purpose of a drug gang
is to make money off of selling drugs
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and other criminal activity.
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So they exist as a semi-formal group
that...
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brings in girls to help them make money.
And they're also often sexually
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exploited as part of a gang.
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The abuse and exploitation of girls in
drug gangs is a widespread UK-wide
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issue. So this isn't about a particular
city or area, particular demographic
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groups. As long as we've had drug gangs
in this country, we have had girls being
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abused and coerced within them.
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What's even more shocking is that this
has been going on for years.
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Around 2002 it started.
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I would have been around 14 at the time.
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Do I just give a bit of like about who I
am?
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Yes, yes. So my name is Annie and I am
mixed race, half white British,
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half Caribbean.
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When I was born, I was adopted to my now
parents.
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They adopted a number of children.
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They were very loving, very caring.
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So I grew up in Eltham. It was quite
quiet. It was quite like a well-to-do
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sort of area for families.
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There's lots of schools around there.
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I'd say I generally felt quite safe
there up until a point.
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When I was 14, I was introduced to three
boys who were part
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of a gang in the local area.
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The boys were from the Ferrier estate.
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It was a very well-known, notorious
estate.
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The gang that operated controlled it,
really.
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They sold drugs and engaged in various
criminal activities.
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At the time, I felt quite in awe, quite
excited to, I suppose, have the
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attention.
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The night everything began, we were
driving around for a lot of the evening,
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just having a laugh, and my friend who I
was with at that time said that she
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needed to go home.
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I was meant to be staying at her house
for the evening. So my parents thought
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that I was at her house.
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And then one of the boys said to me that
I could go back to his house.
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And so I trusted him. I trusted him.
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But we didn't go to his house.
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We ended up going to another friend's
house.
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He was an older boy around 19, 20.
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We went in and I remember going through
to like his bedroom and sitting,
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being given like alcohol and drinking
and pineapple and maybe vodka or
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something like that.
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And then I just felt like it just
started to feel really uncomfortable.
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He was just like trying to get close to
me and...
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just became like really dark in that I
felt like they were just telling me what
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to do and I was so scared, so scared.
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All aspect of choice just got taken
away.
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So, you know, it happened.
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And I remember thinking, I didn't want
to explain to my parents that I'm not
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staying at my friend's house.
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And then, you know, I ended up being
raped by three older boys.
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How do I explain that?
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I couldn't just put any of it into
words.
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And I was still expected to go into
school every day and show up at school
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every day.
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Definitely...
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Proud of her strength, I suppose.
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She shouldn't have had to be so strong
in the first place.
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There we are.
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Yeah.
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My work on street violence started in
around 2006.
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I lived in London. I'd grown up in
London.
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and I lived in areas where young people
had lost their lives.
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So when I started this work, young women
just weren't really being discussed or
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considered. And their experiences of
exploitation or other forms of violence
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went under the radar for years.
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However, with me now is Carleen Thurman.
We've been experiencing these things for
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so many years, things that people aren't
talking about, things like gang rape of
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girls, things like kidnap of sisters and
mothers, those kinds of things. Why
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isn't anyone coming out and saying that
that's what's happening? Over the years,
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we spoke to hundreds of women and girls
across the country who've had different
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encounters with violence. They talked
about being used to transport drugs.
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across the country. They talked about
being passed around groups of young men
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they were associated to.
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All sorts of severe violence over
prolonged periods of
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time.
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But there were some, particularly white
male criminologists at the time, who
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said that this is just either fabricated
or not as severe as Carleen is making
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out because...
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If this was going on, we would have
identified it already.
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On my 14th birthday, he just said, like,
if you want
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me to treat you grown, like, this is
what grown people do.
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So he asked me to...
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sleep with his friends to help him out.
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And I did it.
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I felt, like, disgusting.
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But he made it out like it was something
he really needed.
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Like, if you care about someone, you're
going to help them.
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So I felt like, oh, like, you might be
feeling like this, but you've helped
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him.
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He asked you to do that other times?
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After that, I've lost count of how many
times.
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Like, it became an expectation.
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Some were his friends, some were his
age, some looked older.
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I don't know who they were.
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There were other girls there. It wasn't
just me.
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They were like drug addicts that live in
these flats.
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And they used to bring us here.
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They'd use the houses for drugs.
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And in that, they used to sleep with us.
And a lot of the time when I came back,
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I wasn't sober.
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I don't think I ever was, actually.
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I remember when I would misbehave.
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He'd give people no rules.
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The no rules was like whatever they
wanted to do, they could.
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Sometimes he'd stay in there and watch.
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What we're talking about is incredibly
hyper-masculine, violent, ruthless
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environments in which violence is part
and parcel of the culture of that gang.
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And so the treatment of girls as
objects...
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That is uniform and routine across
gangs. The treatment of girls as things
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that could be passed around from one boy
to another for sex, that could be pimped
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out. Gang rape is common.
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When the three of them raped me, they
took photos.
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The next few weeks went by and started
getting phone calls from the initial
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gang.
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They said that I'd expose you, you know,
if you're not open to basically more sex
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with more people.
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I didn't want anyone to see the pictures
and I felt ashamed.
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I just felt like an awful person.
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The pictures were shared by these boys
initially with different gangs kind of
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coming to me every day.
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and groups of boys gathering outside of
my school.
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I remember leaving school and being
marched, like, down the local high
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street and wherever they could really,
like, pull me into, whether it was an
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alleyway and an estate,
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they would just, excuse me, just rape me
again and again.
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Were social services ever involved?
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Social services weren't involved so from
records and my
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understanding there was never no
sufficient safeguarding put in place
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to protect me.
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Despite there being denial by academics
in 2010-2011, I was briefing the then
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Mayor of London, Boris Johnson.
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I attended roundtables chaired by the
then Home Secretary, Theresa May.
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So there were multiple people that were
interested in 2010-2011.
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And so I felt like we were on the verge
of quite significant policy change.
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But there was only so much I can do.
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as a then 26 year old we need leaders to
take hold of this and develop a national
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position on it when carlian told me
about this i think she was just
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very very pleased to have somebody in a
position of authority taking what she
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was saying seriously so in a sense we
formed a good partnership on that i
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decided to set up a national inquiry to
identify the scale and extent
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of this truly terrible problem now an
investigation into the plight of
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thousands of children who are sexually
exploited by gangs in england is being
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launched today until now experts have
thought that up to 10 000 young people
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have been abused but the office of the
children's commissioner says it believes
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its inquiry will show the real number is
actually much higher than that we
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traveled all over the country so we went
to cities we went to towns we went to
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local authorities which were largely
rural in nature and also to metropolitan
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boroughs. We were really able to extract
a tremendous amount of information.
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It crosses all cultures, all ethnic
groups, all parts of our
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society in terms of levels of poverty or
affluence.
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Too often girls who are black or from
ethnic minorities They appeared to be
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considered to be less worthy than some
of the other victims.
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In one local authority that we visited,
the police produced, together with
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social services, a huge dossier of girls
who were being sexually exploited.
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Every single girl in those files was
white.
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And I asked the police and social
services at the end of that about girls
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from minority ethnic groups.
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And they said to me, and this is a
quote, we're not looking for them.
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When the report came out in 2012, there
was a mixed response.
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For some people, including people in
senior positions, they found it very
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difficult to accept the real scale of
what was going on.
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16,500 children showed signs of being at
risk.
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and it insists abusers come from many
backgrounds.
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A senior government source described the
report's language as hysterical.
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Data was hard to collect at the time and
is still hard to collect now because we
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don't have very clear recording
mechanisms for things like exploitation.
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There was definitely resistance in
government. You don't want to hear that
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thousands of children are at risk of
being sexually exploited across England
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with various different forms of
exploitation that you don't have a
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policy to really support.
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And it landed at a time where people
were still very, very focused on the
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Times reporting, on northern towns, on
South Asian men.
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All nine of the men who were convicted
yesterday of grooming young girls for
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sex, sexually assaulting or raping them,
were Asian.
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Those cases featured, of course they did
feature in the inquiry, they're a form
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of exploitation, but they featured
alongside others.
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Senior government ministers believe that
the report deliberately plays down the
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role. of Asian abusers. You're very
clear that it doesn't do so, that this
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is a fair reflection of what you've
seen, because they are pretty critical
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of this part of your report. It is
deeply troubling to me that they are
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finding it so difficult to accept the
evidence that we have, which is that
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people from every single ethnic group
are, I'm afraid, carrying out forms of
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sexual violence of this particular type.
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against children.
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I think at the time there was a lot in
the news, there was a lot in headlines
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around white girls and Asian men.
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My perpetrators weren't Asian men.
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These were men of different ethnicities.
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These were men of different ages.
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Essentially, they were drug gangs.
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The tide really had turned against
accepting
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quite how brave and serious this was.
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I decided to take part in this
documentary because for too long,
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The reality of so many of the victims of
sexual exploitation in the context of
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gangs have had their reality denied.
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And all the victims need to be
identified.
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My dreams as a kid...
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I always wanted to speak.
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Like, I don't even care who hears it. As
long as somebody hears it and as long as
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I get to share my message with the
world, that is the most important thing.
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How would you describe yourself to
someone who's never met you?
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OK, that's a good one.
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I would probably describe myself as
loud, opinionated,
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kind, caring.
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funny, glamorous, talented.
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I'm not modest.
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I definitely wouldn't say modest.
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And strong.
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I think I'm strong.
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I grew up around South London.
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I always had a safe house.
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I was very lucky and privileged in many
ways.
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I was very loved as a child.
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That was when my mum and stepdad got
married.
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Looked pretty adorable there, to be
honest.
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In my early teens, my mum really
struggled to manage me, and then the
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teachers struggled to manage me.
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I think I always kind of felt...
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I don't know, a bit scary.
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I want to find that cute picture because
I want to just show the difference
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between dressing up when you weren't
dressing up to impress anybody,
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but you were just dressing up for fun.
Oh.
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I love this photo because I used to love
dressing up. I always used to.
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turn into whoever I wanted, but there
wasn't any risk associated with that.
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Things probably started to change when I
got a little bit of freedom.
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I think I was just looking for
connection and I remember creating my
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Facebook account and I was taking loads
of pictures of myself.
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I remember like the adrenaline of
posting something and like the dopamine
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hits that would come in when like it
would get loads of comments or likes and
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you know I'd put a bit of makeup on and
all of a sudden I've got like 100 likes
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and loads of people telling me how
beautiful I look and that was just kind
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of like a quick way to get that like
instant rush.
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There was a lot of older guys. I was
like 13.
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I met him on Blackberry Messenger.
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He told me that he was basically on the
other side of London.
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I'd met up with a friend and I said,
come on, let's go.
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I remember we took a really long train
journey and it actually wasn't
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him that picked us up. It was like one
of his friends.
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Doubt started to set in of like what's
going on kind of thing But I kind of
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felt more safe because I had a friend
with me if it's like bad or if it's
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scary like you're with me We're
together, you know, we'll be fine.
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And do you remember anything else from
that night?
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I remember being in this really like
disgusting building With
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my friend
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And then all of a sudden she said she
needed to leave.
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And she left and the door kind of shut.
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And all of a sudden I was just
surrounded by men.
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And I just didn't know what to even do.
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And I think I just kind of bit down and
just like, I just wanted to go home at
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that point.
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But I just kind of knew and kind of felt
as though the quicker this happened, the
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quicker I could go home.
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But yeah, looking back, I was definitely
scared.
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A few days later, I remember I got a
message from him.
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He said that he wanted to apologise for
what had happened.
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And I believed him.
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This night, I was getting ready for
school. The next day, I was doing my
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nighttime routine and putting my pajamas
on.
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I remember going downstairs and getting
in this car.
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And I turned around, and there were
different men, older men, scarier
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-looking men.
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And it happened all over again.
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When I got back to my mum's this time,
I'd been reported missing, and I just
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remember knocking on the door, and my
mum and stepdad were sat at the bottom
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of the stairs, looking, like, super
distressed.
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I just remember being in, like, such a
kind of almost, like, dissociative state
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where I was so distressed.
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And I just vividly remember, like, going
into the kitchen and, like... opening
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the drawer and, like, just taking a
knife out and just feeling, like, so
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crazy within that moment. It was like a
cry for help. Like, it was like me
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saying, I'm not OK, I'm not OK, because
I didn't know how to verbalise that. I
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didn't know how to explain what
happened. I didn't know.
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And then police came round and I got
taken to hospital.
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It was like a sexual assault unit.
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They took my pyjamas. They were pyjamas
that my mum bought for me.
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The swabs, when they came back, I can't
remember how many DNA matches they
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found, but I know they did find, like,
multiple.
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And that's, like, a hideous thing to
know, to be honest. Like, just to know
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that, like, yeah, you've got, like,
multiple
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people's DNA inside you, on you.
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You don't even know any of these
people's names. Like, wow.
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Like, pretty shitty.
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All the abuse broke my family.
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It had such a ripple effect on
everybody.
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And I distinctly remember...
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The social workers accusing and blaming
my parents for everything that went
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wrong. They even said they neglected me,
which was shocking because that was so
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far from the truth.
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And at 13, I went into care.
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And then to go from living in a
middle-class kind of home where I had,
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like, a good education, I had, you
know...
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lots of love and care to then going into
institutions and the care system the
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contrast was like it was crazy I'd gone
from like one situation where I was
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unsafe to being in another situation
where I was equally as unsafe
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I had social care involvement for a long
time and over the years they came to
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know that I was in an abusive
relationship with a boyfriend who was
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older than me.
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But nothing's changed.
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Like the abuse became... I don't even
know if ten times worse is the word.
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Things got physically abusive.
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If it was bad, I did go to hospital. I
did go A&E.
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I had fractured ribs.
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I had a lot of injuries.
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I think it was just a cry for help.
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But it was like, no one's actually going
to help you.
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I was actually scared that...
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I genuinely may not see another day.
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What we'll often hear from girls is it
takes a very long time to recognise
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themselves as a victim of these crimes.
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It takes a huge amount of strength.
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to come forward to services and say, I'm
being abused.
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We heard some really shocking examples
of girls who were coming to the
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attention of services and were being
rebuffed. They were being turned away.
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They're turning up at hospitals in
mental health crisis after they've been
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raped multiple times.
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And these services are not asking the
right questions.
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The problem is we have teachers, social
workers, police, health workers, not
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looking out for the warning signs.
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London drugs gangs are being blamed for
a record number of allegations of
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slavery, with police and charities
increasingly concerned by so-called
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county lines.
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Kids as young as 12 are exploited by the
gangs to move and sell the drugs, often
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in rural areas.
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The image of the child exploited by
those gangs was more often than not a
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boy or a young man.
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The response at the time from government
and from the police is to focus on boys
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and young men. And the experiences of
girls and young women who were exploited
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by county lines is hidden from view at
this point. And the result was many
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thousands of girls that were abused when
we should have acted sooner to protect
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them.
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Any good memories you have of when you
were a kid?
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There's not many, but a good memory from
when I was a child was when
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my grandma used to have us all around
for Boxing Day and
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everybody would just be there, the whole
family. And before, there was a lot of
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family fallouts and dramas and stuff. It
was just, it was really, really good.
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At the age of 12, I was taken into care.
463
00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,560
When I was in the care system, I was
running away and I used to hang around
464
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,800
in Piccadilly Gardens.
465
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,620
This is Piccadilly Gardens.
466
00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:17,460
Between the ages of 12 and 16, I was
sexually assaulted numerous times by a
467
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:18,980
criminal drugs gang built up.
468
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,360
by older men.
469
00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:27,940
I was then in Manchester Town Centre a
lot, selling drugs.
470
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,240
This is where you meet people. This is
where I met my exploiter. This is where
471
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:40,120
I met a lot of people that was, you
know, using me for either sex, drugs.
472
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:47,020
I was sexually and criminally exploited,
both.
473
00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:49,550
I was made to sleep with different men.
474
00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:56,270
After a while, it just became normal to
me.
475
00:41:00,310 --> 00:41:05,870
I don't know, for me it was... These
people were around me and even though
476
00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:10,050
they were males, it made me feel like I
was wanted and I was part of a family
477
00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:15,030
and people actually cared about me. But
in reality, it was all just a mask.
478
00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:25,550
After a while of me being involved with
this drug gang, I was sent to
479
00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:31,690
places like Isle of Man, Newcastle,
Wales, London, even down to Scarborough,
480
00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:32,770
to run drugs.
481
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:40,710
I was maybe about 14 and I used to meet
a lot of different people.
482
00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:47,170
The person would meet me there or I
would be picked up by somebody in a car.
483
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:48,550
and taken to an address.
484
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:56,690
I was made to give these drugs to people
but sometimes people would get very
485
00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:59,870
aggressive and the situations you end up
in is horrible.
486
00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:05,450
I ended up sitting in abandoned
buildings, bandos and drug dens and
487
00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:10,630
literally sit there for hours mixing
crack cocaine with different substances.
488
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:22,160
It got to the point where I was
forcefully pinned down and stuff, and
489
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,480
sexually assaulted.
490
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:30,720
The man in question would have been
about 42.
491
00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,740
I was 14.
492
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,240
We travelled a lot to different cities.
493
00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:48,450
Sometimes I was taking drugs to people.
494
00:42:51,590 --> 00:42:58,110
He used to teach me how to cut drugs,
how to weigh and I remember in my bag I
495
00:42:58,110 --> 00:43:04,730
had like a Minnie Mouse pencil case sort
of thing and I had like mini scales that
496
00:43:04,730 --> 00:43:05,910
I'd carry around with me.
497
00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:14,260
When he let me into this part of his
world it was like a privilege like i
498
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:21,200
felt like i've earned this side of him i
saw it as like he's investing in
499
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,580
me he's not doing this of anyone else
he's actually seeing like you're special
500
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:29,960
like he's teaching you it was very much
like a norm
501
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,540
until there was an incident
502
00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:40,880
it was my
503
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880
15th birthday
504
00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:46,230
I had a birthday party with my friends.
505
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:52,070
After the party, we ended up at
Britannia Hotel.
506
00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:58,370
And there was just different people
sleeping with different people.
507
00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:01,130
Everyone was just in different rooms.
508
00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:04,710
And some were on different floors.
509
00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:08,470
And the men were older.
510
00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:11,910
I feel like there was, I want to say,
six girls.
511
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:14,970
I don't know how many men, to be honest.
512
00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:23,710
The next day, one of the girls had
spoken to her mum about it, I think, and
513
00:44:23,710 --> 00:44:24,990
her mum had contacted the school.
514
00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:31,250
School had contacted social services, I
think, and then from then, the police
515
00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:33,830
got involved, and then they remained
involved.
516
00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:51,750
I started working for the police in
2009.
517
00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:57,410
I can't say which police force it was
but it was a force in the south.
518
00:44:57,730 --> 00:45:03,670
I was in the response team for six years
and then after that I then joined the
519
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:05,030
child exploitation team.
520
00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:10,090
I joined the force because I wanted to
make a difference but I felt like I was
521
00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:11,830
being shut down the entire time.
522
00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,670
Officers join the police for lots of
different reasons.
523
00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:19,130
Some of them join because they want to
be really proactive, they want to fly
524
00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:23,470
out on blue lights and things like that.
And so they don't necessarily want to do
525
00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:27,550
all the safeguarding side of stuff
because it's all about, let's stop the
526
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,430
drugs, let's do this, let's do that.
527
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:37,610
There was a point that I genuinely
wanted help from the police, but I feel
528
00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:41,050
like they didn't care too much about the
fact that I was being sexually abused or
529
00:45:41,050 --> 00:45:42,050
sexually exploited.
530
00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:47,790
I remember my youth worker, she was
helping me follow through with the
531
00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:48,790
police.
532
00:45:49,070 --> 00:45:54,610
I sat for hours and hours in interviews
and gave them information about what
533
00:45:54,610 --> 00:45:59,570
happened. But it was like the moment I
told them about the drugs and the
534
00:45:59,570 --> 00:46:01,610
houses, everything shifted.
535
00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:06,230
I think they wanted to catch him for the
drugs and everything else.
536
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Little old me coming and saying, this is
the abuse I'm going through wasn't
537
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,040
enough.
538
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:19,680
And I guess the information that
mattered the most to them was
539
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,360
information that I was bound to secrecy,
that I would never give this
540
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,240
information. What information did the
police want?
541
00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:28,800
Their addresses.
542
00:46:29,540 --> 00:46:32,440
That was the information they wanted.
543
00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:39,290
The culture in the unit was awful.
544
00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:45,550
The sergeant involved was very
misogynistic.
545
00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:52,050
The more nuanced and difficult the case
was, the more that he would try and
546
00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:57,130
ignore those or he'd like move down the
risk rating until he could sort of move
547
00:46:57,130 --> 00:46:59,150
them off there and they wouldn't be
under investigation.
548
00:47:01,530 --> 00:47:07,120
The language used to describe the girls
would be very much focused on that child
549
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,660
taking risk, around that child having
risky behaviours, around that child
550
00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:16,180
taking themselves to places that put
them in danger.
551
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880
I just feel like a lot of people failed
me.
552
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,240
The responsibility was very much placed
on Christine putting herself in bad
553
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:32,020
situation with men and I didn't have
respect for myself.
554
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,340
I don't know how you can sit and say a
child who's, let's call it for what it
555
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:42,200
is, being raped day in, day out, doesn't
have respect for themselves.
556
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,980
Sometime after reporting the rapes, I
called the police to get an update on
557
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:49,980
the case.
558
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,720
They were telling me that they were,
like, they'd been arrested for other
559
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,020
things and that the other things were
more important.
560
00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,480
Drugs, things like that.
561
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:05,160
And... You'll hear back when there's any
information, but right now these men
562
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,340
have got bigger fish to fry.
563
00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:09,780
Bigger fish to fry.
564
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,400
Nice.
565
00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,080
I remember that so vividly.
566
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,680
I just remember coming off the phone and
just, like, just feeling completely
567
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,680
sick.
568
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:29,000
Like, that language just... You wouldn't
really associate that with, like...
569
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:35,280
a serious sexual assault case on a
minor, like...
570
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:42,180
Nearly years later, I remember just a
letter coming through the door
571
00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:48,480
saying, like, we've made the decision
that due to basically us not thinking
572
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,000
that your mental health is good enough
for cross-examination, we've decided to
573
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,000
close your case.
574
00:49:01,450 --> 00:49:05,590
And I remember being so anti it. I was
like, they can keep their money. I don't
575
00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:06,590
want their money.
576
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:08,810
I mean, what an insult.
577
00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:16,750
Those that abused me, nothing happened
to them.
578
00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:19,890
They were never brought to justice.
579
00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:27,310
Eventually the pictures were put online.
580
00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:35,790
My school were notified and then they
notified the police.
581
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:38,670
But we didn't get any support.
582
00:49:40,070 --> 00:49:45,470
I just became that girl who, you know,
was thought about as promiscuous.
583
00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:52,230
Like, I was making decisions and I was
choosing to do this.
584
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:10,230
I have a letter here that was written by
the police.
585
00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:14,870
So it states here that the particular
reasons in this case that have prevented
586
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:18,450
me referring it to the CPS are as
follows.
587
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:24,670
On the evidence available, there is not
a realistic prospect of a conviction in
588
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:25,529
this case.
589
00:50:25,530 --> 00:50:28,550
Therefore, I have closed the
investigation.
590
00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:34,290
I felt the fact that they did nothing
really made me feel like it wasn't
591
00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:35,290
abuse.
592
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,900
Made me carry a lot of shame.
593
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,360
Made me feel like it was my fault.
594
00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:43,280
I blamed myself.
595
00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,140
This one particular night, I went
missing because I had to go and do a job
596
00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:04,580
for the people that was making me sell
drugs. And I was sent to an address.
597
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:12,200
I was led upstairs and when I was
upstairs, I was sexually assaulted,
598
00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:13,260
I was tied up.
599
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,300
So when I had a chance, I just ran.
600
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:19,600
I ended up at the closest train station.
601
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,200
I just clicked the button and somebody
answered and I said, please help me, I'm
602
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,280
running. They said, you stay there, we
can see you on the camera, the police
603
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,238
are on the way.
604
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:35,420
It felt like forever. When they got
here, it was like before I even... told
605
00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:39,400
them anything when they when they found
me it was like an eye roll because one
606
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,320
of the police officers knew who i was
and it was like free taxi home then
607
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,220
luckily a female officer came i didn't
know this officer she didn't know me i
608
00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:56,000
had you know cuts and bruises and my eye
was black and my wrists were
609
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,360
were red and swollen and i was pleading
and pleading to these officers that came
610
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,360
like Please look at me. Like, believe
me. Listen to me. I need help.
611
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,260
I told them everything.
612
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,320
Everything that had happened.
613
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,040
They took my underwear that I was
wearing.
614
00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:17,480
They found his DNA.
615
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,940
They never found out what happened to
people that had done this to me.
616
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,900
At the time, that made me feel
worthless.
617
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,440
Like, how can...
618
00:52:31,790 --> 00:52:36,090
I go through all this and you don't want
to help me. What's wrong with me? Why
619
00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:37,090
me?
620
00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:43,410
My whole teenage years, growing up, I
knew I'd either be dead
621
00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:47,490
or in prison by the age of 20.
622
00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:56,210
I was in Victoria train station in
Manchester, just about to go and meet
623
00:52:56,210 --> 00:53:00,090
the person who I used to run for. They
called it running.
624
00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:01,490
when you run drugs.
625
00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:07,730
And as I was on my way, undercover
police jumped out of a car and gripped
626
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:12,970
me up. And unfortunately, I was found
with seven wraps of crack cocaine on me
627
00:53:12,970 --> 00:53:15,110
and four wraps of heroin.
628
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:21,550
I was told in court that I'm going to
get put away for my own safety as well
629
00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:23,370
of what I've done.
630
00:53:23,810 --> 00:53:28,810
But it confused me because I was like,
why am I being punished if I'm not safe?
631
00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:39,530
I was basically institutionalised. I was
basically locked away six, seven hours
632
00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:40,530
out of the day.
633
00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:15,060
You can't police your way out of sexual
exploitation.
634
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,520
I'm much more interested in building
safety around children and young people
635
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,880
and for children and young people.
636
00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:28,320
The police come in once exploitation has
happened.
637
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,040
That can't be the basis upon which we
build a safe society because then we're
638
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,580
building a society that responds to
crime rather than a society that
639
00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:38,580
provides safety.
640
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,280
In January, the government asked
Baroness Louise Casey, an experienced
641
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,400
Whitehall troubleshooter, to investigate
the nature, scale and profile of group
642
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,720
-based child sexual abuse offending.
643
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,440
Finally, Baroness Casey describes ways
in which patterns of grooming gang child
644
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,580
sexual exploitation are changing.
645
00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:20,820
including evidence of rape and sexual
exploitation taking place in street
646
00:55:20,820 --> 00:55:25,780
gangs and drug gangs that combine
criminal and sexual exploitation.
647
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,100
I do not believe that this kind of
exploitation has been sufficiently
648
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,100
investigated.
649
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,380
This is actually a really big problem in
the rural areas.
650
00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:38,280
You know, so many children are being
exploited.
651
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,560
One of our key services is that
prevention.
652
00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:44,540
It's those subtle signs.
653
00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:50,370
acting on you know when their behavior
is slightly changing those early signs
654
00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:54,710
that that's the time to act before they
get trapped because when they get
655
00:55:54,710 --> 00:56:00,390
trapped that's where it takes years to
overcome the ongoing trauma that they're
656
00:56:00,390 --> 00:56:07,330
suffering i've struggled a lot and i was
in mental
657
00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:13,790
health hospital um numerous times i was
ready to kill myself three years ago
658
00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:20,590
i was ready to end it all But then I
found something that I
659
00:56:20,590 --> 00:56:25,610
wouldn't change for the world. I found a
job that actually gives me the
660
00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:28,210
motivation to just do anything in life.
661
00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:42,950
I started working as a co-researcher on
a project looking into child care
662
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:44,770
exploitation and the care system.
663
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:50,430
Our experience has been vital in helping
us understand how we solve these things
664
00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:53,270
and how we make things, change policy,
change practice.
665
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:58,330
Because without that knowledge, I think
we miss so much about how we can help
666
00:56:58,330 --> 00:56:59,830
sort things out and help fix things.
667
00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:06,610
I realised like, oh my God, I'm actually
going to have a voice and I'm going to
668
00:57:06,610 --> 00:57:11,570
be able to actually tell these people,
like, I've been through it and you're
669
00:57:11,570 --> 00:57:12,109
not alone.
670
00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:13,430
And that was the best.
671
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,060
best news I could possibly get.
672
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:22,820
Even though a lot of the people in these
services didn't get it right and did
673
00:57:22,820 --> 00:57:28,820
fail me, there were some people that got
it so right and I will never, ever
674
00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:31,160
forget them. You know, they changed my
life.
675
00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:47,950
I'm sober, which I never ever thought
would happen. I never saw like a life
676
00:57:47,950 --> 00:57:48,970
without drugs and alcohol.
677
00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:52,070
I thought that that was going to be with
me till the very end.
678
00:57:53,290 --> 00:57:56,430
Today, I would say I'm safe.
679
00:57:57,850 --> 00:58:00,870
I have a lot of clarity in my life.
680
00:58:01,130 --> 00:58:02,830
I choose what I want to do.
681
00:58:03,770 --> 00:58:08,430
And I'm in a beautiful relationship with
my lovely partner who is extremely
682
00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:09,430
supportive.
683
00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:16,410
And I think, like, the most important
thing to mention is, like, I'm gay.
684
00:58:16,970 --> 00:58:22,310
And I didn't even get a chance to, like,
explore my own sexuality because that
685
00:58:22,310 --> 00:58:23,930
was taken away from me as a child.
686
00:58:24,430 --> 00:58:27,230
I look in the mirror and I think, I'm
really proud of you.
687
00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:30,930
Because it's not been easy, you know?
688
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,640
You were surrounded by so many people
but you were still very, very isolated
689
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,540
and very, very alone.
690
00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:47,540
It just really frustrates me to be
honest, especially that this is still
691
00:58:47,540 --> 00:58:49,640
really much happening to a lot of young
people.
692
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,470
When I think about the lack of support
and intervention.
693
00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:11,410
I just feel like she had no chance, no
chance to start healing.
694
00:59:13,010 --> 00:59:16,410
It was something that she had to do as
an adult.
695
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But I also feel
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by healing, by speaking,
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I've enabled her to finally be at rest.
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00:59:43,070 --> 00:59:44,650
I just want to make a difference.
699
00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:51,830
I want to help others. I want to give
people the second chance that I wish I
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had so much sooner.
701
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Today's my book launch, so we're
literally just setting up.
702
00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:58,190
We're just waiting for guests to come
in.
703
00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:59,630
I'm really excited.
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First book launch.
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01:00:01,050 --> 01:00:02,050
Yeah.
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01:00:02,380 --> 01:00:07,640
I am an author, I am a youth leader at
my local church.
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01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,100
I've learnt to turn my pain into purpose
and it's not been an easy journey.
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01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,460
I'm grateful that you're all even here
to witness even this day because I know
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many of you saw the days prior but
it's...
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01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:32,890
Yeah, I'm just humbled.
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I'm lost for words. I knew I was going
to be overwhelmed, but I didn't think I
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01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:38,110
would feel like this.
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