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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,930 --> 00:00:04,130 They used to tell me, no one's going to believe me. 2 00:00:04,750 --> 00:00:07,370 They're going to say, like, I wanted it, it's my fault. 3 00:00:09,890 --> 00:00:11,770 I just thought, oh, why bother? 4 00:00:12,110 --> 00:00:13,550 Like, who's actually going to listen? 5 00:00:25,350 --> 00:00:26,350 I was 13. 6 00:00:28,330 --> 00:00:30,950 I was maybe about 12. 7 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,500 13. I would have been around 14 at the time. 8 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:46,120 I have listened to children telling me the most harrowing things I've ever 9 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,960 heard in my whole professional career. 10 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:56,040 They talked about being used to transport drugs across the country. 11 00:00:56,650 --> 00:01:02,010 They talked about being passed around groups of young men for sexual assaults. 12 00:01:02,050 --> 00:01:06,590 I was made to sleep with different men, and the situations you end up in is 13 00:01:06,590 --> 00:01:07,590 horrible. 14 00:01:11,230 --> 00:01:13,250 The girls were treated like criminals. 15 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:16,170 It was like the behaviour was their own doing. 16 00:01:17,710 --> 00:01:22,370 For some people, particularly people in senior positions, they found it very 17 00:01:22,370 --> 00:01:24,830 difficult to accept the real scale. 18 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:29,810 of what was going on. We were really struck by what felt like a conspiracy of 19 00:01:29,810 --> 00:01:32,450 silence. We're talking about thousands of girls. 20 00:01:32,890 --> 00:01:37,730 And I know more girls are being recruited and groomed into this. 21 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:40,790 I had to go to school like nothing had happened. 22 00:01:41,610 --> 00:01:43,650 I was so scared to tell anyone. 23 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,020 This was actually the day that I went on the first date. 24 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:17,780 I think it makes me feel a bit sick because I'm actually like a child, 25 00:02:17,920 --> 00:02:19,900 to be honest. 26 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,020 I was 13, he was 23. 27 00:02:37,640 --> 00:02:38,800 I grew up in London. 28 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:46,240 My parents got divorced, and because my parents had an abusive relationship, my 29 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:47,400 dad wasn't really there. 30 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,480 We moved to Coventry. 31 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,420 Coventry is very different to London. 32 00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,440 Coventry is very small. 33 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Looking back, I think the move threw me off a lot. 34 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,500 In school, everybody already had their friendship groups because of how late 35 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:10,880 I'd moved in. 36 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:15,900 So within school, I didn't really feel like I had friends. 37 00:03:17,140 --> 00:03:23,060 There was a group chat and he popped up to me outside of the chat and he was 38 00:03:23,060 --> 00:03:24,060 just talking to me. 39 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,340 We'd be texting through the night. 40 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,340 Then he said that he wanted to meet in person. 41 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,360 So we met, we went to Nando's. 42 00:03:36,579 --> 00:03:40,360 I remember him walking through the doors. And when he walked through the 43 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,980 doors, I was like, oh my gosh, like, that's a grown man. 44 00:03:44,180 --> 00:03:46,900 I can't tell you what was going on through my head. I think I was just 45 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:49,700 thinking, like, you've already gone this far. Like, you're here now. 46 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,340 Like, what are you going to do, leave? 47 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:55,460 As the conversation was going on, I told him I'm 13. 48 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,340 And he was like, that doesn't change anything. Like, I still want to be with 49 00:03:59,340 --> 00:04:04,260 you. And then that's when we started, like, quote unquote, going out. 50 00:04:06,060 --> 00:04:09,000 He was involved in gangs, he was involved in drugs. 51 00:04:10,860 --> 00:04:13,840 But it was the thrill of being with a bad boy. 52 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,839 I always knew, okay, he's probably hurt someone. 53 00:04:19,820 --> 00:04:23,880 But in terms of hurting me, I didn't think it would get to that point. 54 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,240 Where we are in the rural areas, this beautiful countryside, and I don't think 55 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:50,200 anyone will ever associate the fact that there are drug gangs operating 56 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,700 in these areas, but there is, and children are being harmed. 57 00:04:55,480 --> 00:05:01,960 May is someone who I've been working with for nearly six years now. 58 00:05:02,140 --> 00:05:05,920 She had been a victim of sexual exploitation. 59 00:05:06,570 --> 00:05:08,410 and it started when she was 13. 60 00:05:10,150 --> 00:05:17,010 And it was just through befriending a group of boys that are well 61 00:05:17,010 --> 00:05:19,610 known to have connections to drugs. 62 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:31,990 I'd recently just moved to the new secondary school. 63 00:05:32,410 --> 00:05:36,410 They knew I didn't have any friends and they just started to speak to me saying, 64 00:05:36,650 --> 00:05:38,250 oh, you should come out with us sometimes. 65 00:05:38,570 --> 00:05:39,570 We'll be your friends. 66 00:05:39,750 --> 00:05:44,170 And then it sort of progressed to, oh, I think you're so lovely. I would 67 00:05:44,170 --> 00:05:47,030 literally treat you so well if you was just my girlfriend. 68 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:51,470 And I was like over the moon. I was like, I've just gone from having no 69 00:05:51,470 --> 00:05:54,950 friends. Now I've got a whole group of friends and a boyfriend. 70 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:57,710 This is what every teenage girl wants. 71 00:05:58,010 --> 00:06:01,290 And then it was OK for the first few weeks. 72 00:06:02,510 --> 00:06:06,350 By the time it got bad, I didn't really see a way out. 73 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:14,830 One night near Christmas, the three main boys, including my boyfriend at the 74 00:06:14,830 --> 00:06:17,670 time, said to me that I needed to drink with them. 75 00:06:19,210 --> 00:06:23,730 And then, within about five minutes, the room started spinning. 76 00:06:25,070 --> 00:06:27,010 Really, really badly. 77 00:06:29,930 --> 00:06:34,670 They were pushing me around, videoing me, laughing at me because I was losing 78 00:06:34,670 --> 00:06:35,790 control of my body. 79 00:06:38,150 --> 00:06:39,610 But I could see still. 80 00:06:41,050 --> 00:06:42,650 And then everything went black. 81 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:53,590 And then I woke up and it was probably about three and a half hours later at 82 00:06:53,590 --> 00:06:58,190 this point. As I went to get out of the bed, I pulled the duvet back and... 83 00:06:59,719 --> 00:07:05,160 I had been completely stripped of all my clothes. I was completely naked. 84 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,880 I was just confused. 85 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:12,000 And then I ran out the house and threw up a lot. 86 00:07:14,500 --> 00:07:16,000 Woke up the next morning. 87 00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:23,480 And then I remember going to the toilet and everything was 88 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,580 bruised. Everything was bleeding. 89 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,500 And I had to go to school like nothing had happened. 90 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,080 I didn't want to accept that I'd been sexually abused by more than one person. 91 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,560 Six years later, I'm still being troubled by the same individuals. 92 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,740 and I'm still not being heard now by the police. 93 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,640 This gang, they're hooking these young children in. You're talking as young as 94 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,680 nine, ten. 95 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,420 And I know more girls are being recruited, owner, groomed into this. 96 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:18,080 They look so intimidating and scary, but having a young girl there is going to 97 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,120 help them get them in a lot quicker, which is why they do it. 98 00:08:27,020 --> 00:08:28,800 I was once May. 99 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,559 I was completely lost. I was traumatised. 100 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,140 I went through all that. But no one understood. 101 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,159 I was just looked at as a troubled teenager. 102 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,080 And this is kind of what made me want to set up a charity. 103 00:08:43,059 --> 00:08:45,260 It was around kind of 2018. 104 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,680 There was a number of referrals coming in, so it was quite clear there was 105 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:53,860 something going on because there was a pattern of behaviours. Something wasn't 106 00:08:53,860 --> 00:08:54,860 right. 107 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:59,650 It wasn't just sexual exploitation, it was criminal exploitation as well. So 108 00:08:59,650 --> 00:09:05,150 there were other things girls were asked to do as well, holding on to drugs, the 109 00:09:05,150 --> 00:09:06,150 selling of drugs. 110 00:09:06,190 --> 00:09:08,730 You know, I wanted to raise this and highlight it. 111 00:09:08,950 --> 00:09:15,470 And you just felt there was this barrier of acceptance that this was 112 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:16,470 actually happening. 113 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,720 We were really struck by what felt like a conspiracy of silence. 114 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:31,920 We're talking about thousands of girls that are experiencing incredibly violent 115 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:37,380 situations, and yet often when we were in circles talking about the experiences 116 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:41,040 of children who were criminally exploited, girls were not coming up. 117 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:46,020 Quite similar to the late 1990s, early 2000s, when the efforts were not made at 118 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:49,600 the time to intervene in grooming gangs across the country, and it was... 119 00:09:49,980 --> 00:09:51,080 completely overlooked. 120 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:54,300 Most of the perpetrators were men of Pakistani origin. 121 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,840 Three earlier reports which had clearly stated the scale of the abuse were 122 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,620 either ignored or suppressed. 123 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:04,320 For groomer gangs, the primary purpose is often the sexual exploitation of 124 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:05,119 those girls. 125 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,800 But the primary purpose of a drug gang is to make money off of selling drugs 126 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,120 and other criminal activity. 127 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,300 So they exist as a semi-formal group that... 128 00:10:15,580 --> 00:10:19,780 brings in girls to help them make money. And they're also often sexually 129 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:21,000 exploited as part of a gang. 130 00:10:22,380 --> 00:10:26,760 The abuse and exploitation of girls in drug gangs is a widespread UK-wide 131 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,040 issue. So this isn't about a particular city or area, particular demographic 132 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,480 groups. As long as we've had drug gangs in this country, we have had girls being 133 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:36,920 abused and coerced within them. 134 00:10:37,780 --> 00:10:41,000 What's even more shocking is that this has been going on for years. 135 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:53,810 Around 2002 it started. 136 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:59,570 I would have been around 14 at the time. 137 00:11:06,830 --> 00:11:09,650 Do I just give a bit of like about who I am? 138 00:11:09,950 --> 00:11:16,950 Yes, yes. So my name is Annie and I am mixed race, half white British, 139 00:11:16,970 --> 00:11:19,190 half Caribbean. 140 00:11:20,330 --> 00:11:24,610 When I was born, I was adopted to my now parents. 141 00:11:25,210 --> 00:11:26,750 They adopted a number of children. 142 00:11:27,690 --> 00:11:31,430 They were very loving, very caring. 143 00:11:35,150 --> 00:11:39,330 So I grew up in Eltham. It was quite quiet. It was quite like a well-to-do 144 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:40,930 sort of area for families. 145 00:11:41,250 --> 00:11:43,430 There's lots of schools around there. 146 00:11:43,910 --> 00:11:48,650 I'd say I generally felt quite safe there up until a point. 147 00:11:52,140 --> 00:11:58,860 When I was 14, I was introduced to three boys who were part 148 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:00,940 of a gang in the local area. 149 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:05,420 The boys were from the Ferrier estate. 150 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,220 It was a very well-known, notorious estate. 151 00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:13,540 The gang that operated controlled it, really. 152 00:12:14,140 --> 00:12:18,260 They sold drugs and engaged in various criminal activities. 153 00:12:21,290 --> 00:12:27,330 At the time, I felt quite in awe, quite excited to, I suppose, have the 154 00:12:27,330 --> 00:12:28,330 attention. 155 00:12:30,930 --> 00:12:36,290 The night everything began, we were driving around for a lot of the evening, 156 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:41,710 just having a laugh, and my friend who I was with at that time said that she 157 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:42,730 needed to go home. 158 00:12:45,939 --> 00:12:52,080 I was meant to be staying at her house for the evening. So my parents thought 159 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,680 that I was at her house. 160 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:59,320 And then one of the boys said to me that I could go back to his house. 161 00:13:02,300 --> 00:13:04,320 And so I trusted him. I trusted him. 162 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:08,920 But we didn't go to his house. 163 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,540 We ended up going to another friend's house. 164 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,580 He was an older boy around 19, 20. 165 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:24,920 We went in and I remember going through to like his bedroom and sitting, 166 00:13:25,060 --> 00:13:31,600 being given like alcohol and drinking and pineapple and maybe vodka or 167 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:32,620 something like that. 168 00:13:33,700 --> 00:13:36,780 And then I just felt like it just started to feel really uncomfortable. 169 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,960 He was just like trying to get close to me and... 170 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:46,870 just became like really dark in that I felt like they were just telling me what 171 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:53,650 to do and I was so scared, so scared. 172 00:13:56,490 --> 00:13:59,630 All aspect of choice just got taken away. 173 00:14:01,190 --> 00:14:02,770 So, you know, it happened. 174 00:14:16,270 --> 00:14:19,690 And I remember thinking, I didn't want to explain to my parents that I'm not 175 00:14:19,690 --> 00:14:20,910 staying at my friend's house. 176 00:14:21,370 --> 00:14:24,230 And then, you know, I ended up being raped by three older boys. 177 00:14:29,370 --> 00:14:31,510 How do I explain that? 178 00:14:36,010 --> 00:14:38,090 I couldn't just put any of it into words. 179 00:14:38,390 --> 00:14:41,770 And I was still expected to go into school every day and show up at school 180 00:14:41,770 --> 00:14:42,770 every day. 181 00:14:44,390 --> 00:14:45,390 Definitely... 182 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,820 Proud of her strength, I suppose. 183 00:14:50,060 --> 00:14:54,520 She shouldn't have had to be so strong in the first place. 184 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,220 There we are. 185 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:01,700 Yeah. 186 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:11,560 My work on street violence started in around 2006. 187 00:15:12,460 --> 00:15:14,540 I lived in London. I'd grown up in London. 188 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:18,480 and I lived in areas where young people had lost their lives. 189 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:24,360 So when I started this work, young women just weren't really being discussed or 190 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,360 considered. And their experiences of exploitation or other forms of violence 191 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,340 went under the radar for years. 192 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,900 However, with me now is Carleen Thurman. We've been experiencing these things for 193 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:39,440 so many years, things that people aren't talking about, things like gang rape of 194 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,980 girls, things like kidnap of sisters and mothers, those kinds of things. Why 195 00:15:42,980 --> 00:15:46,060 isn't anyone coming out and saying that that's what's happening? Over the years, 196 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:50,360 we spoke to hundreds of women and girls across the country who've had different 197 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,400 encounters with violence. They talked about being used to transport drugs. 198 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:01,060 across the country. They talked about being passed around groups of young men 199 00:16:01,060 --> 00:16:02,340 they were associated to. 200 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:09,420 All sorts of severe violence over prolonged periods of 201 00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:10,420 time. 202 00:16:10,940 --> 00:16:15,640 But there were some, particularly white male criminologists at the time, who 203 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:20,160 said that this is just either fabricated or not as severe as Carleen is making 204 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:21,160 out because... 205 00:16:21,340 --> 00:16:24,600 If this was going on, we would have identified it already. 206 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:43,520 On my 14th birthday, he just said, like, if you want 207 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,260 me to treat you grown, like, this is what grown people do. 208 00:16:47,980 --> 00:16:49,780 So he asked me to... 209 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 sleep with his friends to help him out. 210 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,680 And I did it. 211 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:10,440 I felt, like, disgusting. 212 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:17,660 But he made it out like it was something he really needed. 213 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,420 Like, if you care about someone, you're going to help them. 214 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:27,119 So I felt like, oh, like, you might be feeling like this, but you've helped 215 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,119 him. 216 00:17:32,420 --> 00:17:34,480 He asked you to do that other times? 217 00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:39,700 After that, I've lost count of how many times. 218 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,160 Like, it became an expectation. 219 00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:53,340 Some were his friends, some were his age, some looked older. 220 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,300 I don't know who they were. 221 00:18:27,180 --> 00:18:29,320 There were other girls there. It wasn't just me. 222 00:18:34,180 --> 00:18:37,860 They were like drug addicts that live in these flats. 223 00:18:38,620 --> 00:18:40,220 And they used to bring us here. 224 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,880 They'd use the houses for drugs. 225 00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:49,460 And in that, they used to sleep with us. And a lot of the time when I came back, 226 00:18:49,540 --> 00:18:50,540 I wasn't sober. 227 00:18:53,580 --> 00:18:55,300 I don't think I ever was, actually. 228 00:19:02,670 --> 00:19:05,030 I remember when I would misbehave. 229 00:19:05,570 --> 00:19:07,250 He'd give people no rules. 230 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:18,910 The no rules was like whatever they wanted to do, they could. 231 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:27,510 Sometimes he'd stay in there and watch. 232 00:19:49,939 --> 00:19:55,960 What we're talking about is incredibly hyper-masculine, violent, ruthless 233 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,860 environments in which violence is part and parcel of the culture of that gang. 234 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:04,060 And so the treatment of girls as objects... 235 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:09,480 That is uniform and routine across gangs. The treatment of girls as things 236 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,240 that could be passed around from one boy to another for sex, that could be pimped 237 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,260 out. Gang rape is common. 238 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,940 When the three of them raped me, they took photos. 239 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:32,660 The next few weeks went by and started getting phone calls from the initial 240 00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:33,660 gang. 241 00:20:36,949 --> 00:20:43,130 They said that I'd expose you, you know, if you're not open to basically more sex 242 00:20:43,130 --> 00:20:44,130 with more people. 243 00:20:46,250 --> 00:20:49,710 I didn't want anyone to see the pictures and I felt ashamed. 244 00:20:50,090 --> 00:20:53,930 I just felt like an awful person. 245 00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:02,690 The pictures were shared by these boys initially with different gangs kind of 246 00:21:02,690 --> 00:21:04,890 coming to me every day. 247 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,540 and groups of boys gathering outside of my school. 248 00:21:11,980 --> 00:21:17,740 I remember leaving school and being marched, like, down the local high 249 00:21:17,740 --> 00:21:22,360 street and wherever they could really, like, pull me into, whether it was an 250 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:23,800 alleyway and an estate, 251 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,220 they would just, excuse me, just rape me again and again. 252 00:21:38,700 --> 00:21:40,440 Were social services ever involved? 253 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:47,880 Social services weren't involved so from records and my 254 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:54,240 understanding there was never no sufficient safeguarding put in place 255 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,540 to protect me. 256 00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:14,380 Despite there being denial by academics in 2010-2011, I was briefing the then 257 00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:15,720 Mayor of London, Boris Johnson. 258 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,780 I attended roundtables chaired by the then Home Secretary, Theresa May. 259 00:22:19,980 --> 00:22:24,980 So there were multiple people that were interested in 2010-2011. 260 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,540 And so I felt like we were on the verge of quite significant policy change. 261 00:22:31,020 --> 00:22:33,100 But there was only so much I can do. 262 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,060 as a then 26 year old we need leaders to take hold of this and develop a national 263 00:22:39,060 --> 00:22:45,860 position on it when carlian told me about this i think she was just 264 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:51,900 very very pleased to have somebody in a position of authority taking what she 265 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:57,380 was saying seriously so in a sense we formed a good partnership on that i 266 00:22:57,380 --> 00:23:02,820 decided to set up a national inquiry to identify the scale and extent 267 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,520 of this truly terrible problem now an investigation into the plight of 268 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,460 thousands of children who are sexually exploited by gangs in england is being 269 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:16,900 launched today until now experts have thought that up to 10 000 young people 270 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,960 have been abused but the office of the children's commissioner says it believes 271 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:25,020 its inquiry will show the real number is actually much higher than that we 272 00:23:25,020 --> 00:23:29,780 traveled all over the country so we went to cities we went to towns we went to 273 00:23:30,460 --> 00:23:35,780 local authorities which were largely rural in nature and also to metropolitan 274 00:23:35,780 --> 00:23:41,800 boroughs. We were really able to extract a tremendous amount of information. 275 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:49,020 It crosses all cultures, all ethnic groups, all parts of our 276 00:23:49,020 --> 00:23:52,880 society in terms of levels of poverty or affluence. 277 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:59,540 Too often girls who are black or from ethnic minorities They appeared to be 278 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:02,540 considered to be less worthy than some of the other victims. 279 00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:08,780 In one local authority that we visited, the police produced, together with 280 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:13,780 social services, a huge dossier of girls who were being sexually exploited. 281 00:24:14,180 --> 00:24:17,360 Every single girl in those files was white. 282 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:23,420 And I asked the police and social services at the end of that about girls 283 00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,480 from minority ethnic groups. 284 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,880 And they said to me, and this is a quote, we're not looking for them. 285 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,500 When the report came out in 2012, there was a mixed response. 286 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:47,660 For some people, including people in senior positions, they found it very 287 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:51,700 difficult to accept the real scale of what was going on. 288 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:56,240 16,500 children showed signs of being at risk. 289 00:24:56,670 --> 00:24:59,730 and it insists abusers come from many backgrounds. 290 00:25:00,130 --> 00:25:04,810 A senior government source described the report's language as hysterical. 291 00:25:05,470 --> 00:25:11,730 Data was hard to collect at the time and is still hard to collect now because we 292 00:25:11,730 --> 00:25:16,130 don't have very clear recording mechanisms for things like exploitation. 293 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:21,230 There was definitely resistance in government. You don't want to hear that 294 00:25:21,230 --> 00:25:25,070 thousands of children are at risk of being sexually exploited across England 295 00:25:25,070 --> 00:25:28,250 with various different forms of exploitation that you don't have a 296 00:25:28,250 --> 00:25:29,490 policy to really support. 297 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:36,570 And it landed at a time where people were still very, very focused on the 298 00:25:36,570 --> 00:25:41,290 Times reporting, on northern towns, on South Asian men. 299 00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:45,930 All nine of the men who were convicted yesterday of grooming young girls for 300 00:25:45,930 --> 00:25:49,010 sex, sexually assaulting or raping them, were Asian. 301 00:25:58,570 --> 00:26:02,830 Those cases featured, of course they did feature in the inquiry, they're a form 302 00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:06,290 of exploitation, but they featured alongside others. 303 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:10,790 Senior government ministers believe that the report deliberately plays down the 304 00:26:10,790 --> 00:26:17,090 role. of Asian abusers. You're very clear that it doesn't do so, that this 305 00:26:17,090 --> 00:26:20,330 is a fair reflection of what you've seen, because they are pretty critical 306 00:26:20,330 --> 00:26:25,970 of this part of your report. It is deeply troubling to me that they are 307 00:26:25,970 --> 00:26:31,210 finding it so difficult to accept the evidence that we have, which is that 308 00:26:31,210 --> 00:26:36,650 people from every single ethnic group are, I'm afraid, carrying out forms of 309 00:26:36,650 --> 00:26:40,230 sexual violence of this particular type. 310 00:26:40,650 --> 00:26:41,850 against children. 311 00:26:50,930 --> 00:26:55,490 I think at the time there was a lot in the news, there was a lot in headlines 312 00:26:55,490 --> 00:26:57,830 around white girls and Asian men. 313 00:26:59,150 --> 00:27:01,490 My perpetrators weren't Asian men. 314 00:27:01,910 --> 00:27:04,830 These were men of different ethnicities. 315 00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:06,650 These were men of different ages. 316 00:27:08,620 --> 00:27:10,040 Essentially, they were drug gangs. 317 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:21,860 The tide really had turned against accepting 318 00:27:21,860 --> 00:27:26,080 quite how brave and serious this was. 319 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:33,060 I decided to take part in this documentary because for too long, 320 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:39,300 The reality of so many of the victims of sexual exploitation in the context of 321 00:27:39,300 --> 00:27:43,260 gangs have had their reality denied. 322 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:48,560 And all the victims need to be identified. 323 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,560 My dreams as a kid... 324 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,740 I always wanted to speak. 325 00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:09,260 Like, I don't even care who hears it. As long as somebody hears it and as long as 326 00:28:09,260 --> 00:28:13,120 I get to share my message with the world, that is the most important thing. 327 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,000 How would you describe yourself to someone who's never met you? 328 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:19,300 OK, that's a good one. 329 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:26,880 I would probably describe myself as loud, opinionated, 330 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,740 kind, caring. 331 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,840 funny, glamorous, talented. 332 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:39,800 I'm not modest. 333 00:28:40,260 --> 00:28:42,560 I definitely wouldn't say modest. 334 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:45,160 And strong. 335 00:28:45,380 --> 00:28:46,560 I think I'm strong. 336 00:28:56,380 --> 00:28:59,600 I grew up around South London. 337 00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:04,520 I always had a safe house. 338 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,220 I was very lucky and privileged in many ways. 339 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,020 I was very loved as a child. 340 00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:17,100 That was when my mum and stepdad got married. 341 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,200 Looked pretty adorable there, to be honest. 342 00:29:21,060 --> 00:29:25,040 In my early teens, my mum really struggled to manage me, and then the 343 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,500 teachers struggled to manage me. 344 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,680 I think I always kind of felt... 345 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,900 I don't know, a bit scary. 346 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,380 I want to find that cute picture because I want to just show the difference 347 00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:45,240 between dressing up when you weren't dressing up to impress anybody, 348 00:29:45,380 --> 00:29:47,420 but you were just dressing up for fun. Oh. 349 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:57,500 I love this photo because I used to love dressing up. I always used to. 350 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,020 turn into whoever I wanted, but there wasn't any risk associated with that. 351 00:30:09,980 --> 00:30:14,980 Things probably started to change when I got a little bit of freedom. 352 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:20,560 I think I was just looking for connection and I remember creating my 353 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,180 Facebook account and I was taking loads of pictures of myself. 354 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,520 I remember like the adrenaline of posting something and like the dopamine 355 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,720 hits that would come in when like it would get loads of comments or likes and 356 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:37,120 you know I'd put a bit of makeup on and all of a sudden I've got like 100 likes 357 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,860 and loads of people telling me how beautiful I look and that was just kind 358 00:30:40,860 --> 00:30:43,640 of like a quick way to get that like instant rush. 359 00:30:46,020 --> 00:30:50,260 There was a lot of older guys. I was like 13. 360 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,960 I met him on Blackberry Messenger. 361 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,980 He told me that he was basically on the other side of London. 362 00:31:04,380 --> 00:31:09,880 I'd met up with a friend and I said, come on, let's go. 363 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:18,020 I remember we took a really long train journey and it actually wasn't 364 00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:20,480 him that picked us up. It was like one of his friends. 365 00:31:21,730 --> 00:31:25,590 Doubt started to set in of like what's going on kind of thing But I kind of 366 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:29,570 felt more safe because I had a friend with me if it's like bad or if it's 367 00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:32,230 scary like you're with me We're together, you know, we'll be fine. 368 00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:34,710 And do you remember anything else from that night? 369 00:31:35,890 --> 00:31:42,570 I remember being in this really like disgusting building With 370 00:31:42,570 --> 00:31:44,890 my friend 371 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,280 And then all of a sudden she said she needed to leave. 372 00:32:01,180 --> 00:32:03,760 And she left and the door kind of shut. 373 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:11,120 And all of a sudden I was just surrounded by men. 374 00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:16,120 And I just didn't know what to even do. 375 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,980 And I think I just kind of bit down and just like, I just wanted to go home at 376 00:32:23,980 --> 00:32:24,980 that point. 377 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:29,870 But I just kind of knew and kind of felt as though the quicker this happened, the 378 00:32:29,870 --> 00:32:31,170 quicker I could go home. 379 00:32:35,970 --> 00:32:38,490 But yeah, looking back, I was definitely scared. 380 00:32:46,730 --> 00:32:49,870 A few days later, I remember I got a message from him. 381 00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:53,710 He said that he wanted to apologise for what had happened. 382 00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:56,020 And I believed him. 383 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,240 This night, I was getting ready for school. The next day, I was doing my 384 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,300 nighttime routine and putting my pajamas on. 385 00:33:03,540 --> 00:33:06,980 I remember going downstairs and getting in this car. 386 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,320 And I turned around, and there were different men, older men, scarier 387 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,320 -looking men. 388 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,560 And it happened all over again. 389 00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:33,350 When I got back to my mum's this time, I'd been reported missing, and I just 390 00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:39,350 remember knocking on the door, and my mum and stepdad were sat at the bottom 391 00:33:39,350 --> 00:33:42,350 of the stairs, looking, like, super distressed. 392 00:33:42,790 --> 00:33:47,550 I just remember being in, like, such a kind of almost, like, dissociative state 393 00:33:47,550 --> 00:33:49,630 where I was so distressed. 394 00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:53,640 And I just vividly remember, like, going into the kitchen and, like... opening 395 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,500 the drawer and, like, just taking a knife out and just feeling, like, so 396 00:33:57,500 --> 00:34:01,200 crazy within that moment. It was like a cry for help. Like, it was like me 397 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,980 saying, I'm not OK, I'm not OK, because I didn't know how to verbalise that. I 398 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:08,560 didn't know how to explain what happened. I didn't know. 399 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,600 And then police came round and I got taken to hospital. 400 00:34:16,420 --> 00:34:18,139 It was like a sexual assault unit. 401 00:34:18,980 --> 00:34:22,400 They took my pyjamas. They were pyjamas that my mum bought for me. 402 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,500 The swabs, when they came back, I can't remember how many DNA matches they 403 00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:31,840 found, but I know they did find, like, multiple. 404 00:34:32,659 --> 00:34:37,840 And that's, like, a hideous thing to know, to be honest. Like, just to know 405 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:44,460 that, like, yeah, you've got, like, multiple 406 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:48,400 people's DNA inside you, on you. 407 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,300 You don't even know any of these people's names. Like, wow. 408 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Like, pretty shitty. 409 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,580 All the abuse broke my family. 410 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:16,620 It had such a ripple effect on everybody. 411 00:35:18,020 --> 00:35:20,220 And I distinctly remember... 412 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:27,050 The social workers accusing and blaming my parents for everything that went 413 00:35:27,050 --> 00:35:31,450 wrong. They even said they neglected me, which was shocking because that was so 414 00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:32,450 far from the truth. 415 00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:36,130 And at 13, I went into care. 416 00:35:38,650 --> 00:35:45,190 And then to go from living in a middle-class kind of home where I had, 417 00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:48,550 like, a good education, I had, you know... 418 00:35:49,390 --> 00:35:56,390 lots of love and care to then going into institutions and the care system the 419 00:35:56,390 --> 00:36:02,790 contrast was like it was crazy I'd gone from like one situation where I was 420 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:05,930 unsafe to being in another situation where I was equally as unsafe 421 00:36:18,670 --> 00:36:23,610 I had social care involvement for a long time and over the years they came to 422 00:36:23,610 --> 00:36:27,430 know that I was in an abusive relationship with a boyfriend who was 423 00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:28,430 older than me. 424 00:36:29,470 --> 00:36:31,570 But nothing's changed. 425 00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:44,990 Like the abuse became... I don't even know if ten times worse is the word. 426 00:36:47,850 --> 00:36:49,670 Things got physically abusive. 427 00:36:50,490 --> 00:36:55,690 If it was bad, I did go to hospital. I did go A&E. 428 00:36:56,830 --> 00:36:58,270 I had fractured ribs. 429 00:36:59,210 --> 00:37:00,550 I had a lot of injuries. 430 00:37:04,710 --> 00:37:06,530 I think it was just a cry for help. 431 00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:10,190 But it was like, no one's actually going to help you. 432 00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:15,490 I was actually scared that... 433 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,760 I genuinely may not see another day. 434 00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:39,840 What we'll often hear from girls is it takes a very long time to recognise 435 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,740 themselves as a victim of these crimes. 436 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,160 It takes a huge amount of strength. 437 00:37:44,670 --> 00:37:47,250 to come forward to services and say, I'm being abused. 438 00:37:47,610 --> 00:37:52,530 We heard some really shocking examples of girls who were coming to the 439 00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:56,870 attention of services and were being rebuffed. They were being turned away. 440 00:37:57,210 --> 00:38:00,710 They're turning up at hospitals in mental health crisis after they've been 441 00:38:00,710 --> 00:38:01,830 raped multiple times. 442 00:38:02,190 --> 00:38:05,090 And these services are not asking the right questions. 443 00:38:05,470 --> 00:38:11,450 The problem is we have teachers, social workers, police, health workers, not 444 00:38:11,450 --> 00:38:12,750 looking out for the warning signs. 445 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,800 London drugs gangs are being blamed for a record number of allegations of 446 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,020 slavery, with police and charities increasingly concerned by so-called 447 00:38:26,020 --> 00:38:27,020 county lines. 448 00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:39,680 Kids as young as 12 are exploited by the gangs to move and sell the drugs, often 449 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,800 in rural areas. 450 00:38:46,510 --> 00:38:50,410 The image of the child exploited by those gangs was more often than not a 451 00:38:50,410 --> 00:38:51,408 boy or a young man. 452 00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:55,270 The response at the time from government and from the police is to focus on boys 453 00:38:55,270 --> 00:38:58,550 and young men. And the experiences of girls and young women who were exploited 454 00:38:58,550 --> 00:39:02,330 by county lines is hidden from view at this point. And the result was many 455 00:39:02,330 --> 00:39:05,770 thousands of girls that were abused when we should have acted sooner to protect 456 00:39:05,770 --> 00:39:06,770 them. 457 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,140 Any good memories you have of when you were a kid? 458 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,940 There's not many, but a good memory from when I was a child was when 459 00:39:25,940 --> 00:39:31,880 my grandma used to have us all around for Boxing Day and 460 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,660 everybody would just be there, the whole family. And before, there was a lot of 461 00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:42,020 family fallouts and dramas and stuff. It was just, it was really, really good. 462 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,940 At the age of 12, I was taken into care. 463 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:00,560 When I was in the care system, I was running away and I used to hang around 464 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:01,800 in Piccadilly Gardens. 465 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,620 This is Piccadilly Gardens. 466 00:40:10,820 --> 00:40:17,460 Between the ages of 12 and 16, I was sexually assaulted numerous times by a 467 00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:18,980 criminal drugs gang built up. 468 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,360 by older men. 469 00:40:22,580 --> 00:40:27,940 I was then in Manchester Town Centre a lot, selling drugs. 470 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,240 This is where you meet people. This is where I met my exploiter. This is where 471 00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:40,120 I met a lot of people that was, you know, using me for either sex, drugs. 472 00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:47,020 I was sexually and criminally exploited, both. 473 00:40:47,550 --> 00:40:49,550 I was made to sleep with different men. 474 00:40:52,810 --> 00:40:56,270 After a while, it just became normal to me. 475 00:41:00,310 --> 00:41:05,870 I don't know, for me it was... These people were around me and even though 476 00:41:05,870 --> 00:41:10,050 they were males, it made me feel like I was wanted and I was part of a family 477 00:41:10,050 --> 00:41:15,030 and people actually cared about me. But in reality, it was all just a mask. 478 00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:25,550 After a while of me being involved with this drug gang, I was sent to 479 00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:31,690 places like Isle of Man, Newcastle, Wales, London, even down to Scarborough, 480 00:41:31,770 --> 00:41:32,770 to run drugs. 481 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:40,710 I was maybe about 14 and I used to meet a lot of different people. 482 00:41:42,550 --> 00:41:47,170 The person would meet me there or I would be picked up by somebody in a car. 483 00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:48,550 and taken to an address. 484 00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:56,690 I was made to give these drugs to people but sometimes people would get very 485 00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:59,870 aggressive and the situations you end up in is horrible. 486 00:42:00,210 --> 00:42:05,450 I ended up sitting in abandoned buildings, bandos and drug dens and 487 00:42:05,450 --> 00:42:10,630 literally sit there for hours mixing crack cocaine with different substances. 488 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:22,160 It got to the point where I was forcefully pinned down and stuff, and 489 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,480 sexually assaulted. 490 00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:30,720 The man in question would have been about 42. 491 00:42:38,540 --> 00:42:39,740 I was 14. 492 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,240 We travelled a lot to different cities. 493 00:42:46,290 --> 00:42:48,450 Sometimes I was taking drugs to people. 494 00:42:51,590 --> 00:42:58,110 He used to teach me how to cut drugs, how to weigh and I remember in my bag I 495 00:42:58,110 --> 00:43:04,730 had like a Minnie Mouse pencil case sort of thing and I had like mini scales that 496 00:43:04,730 --> 00:43:05,910 I'd carry around with me. 497 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:14,260 When he let me into this part of his world it was like a privilege like i 498 00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:21,200 felt like i've earned this side of him i saw it as like he's investing in 499 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:25,580 me he's not doing this of anyone else he's actually seeing like you're special 500 00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:29,960 like he's teaching you it was very much like a norm 501 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,540 until there was an incident 502 00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:40,880 it was my 503 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,880 15th birthday 504 00:43:42,670 --> 00:43:46,230 I had a birthday party with my friends. 505 00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:52,070 After the party, we ended up at Britannia Hotel. 506 00:43:53,550 --> 00:43:58,370 And there was just different people sleeping with different people. 507 00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:01,130 Everyone was just in different rooms. 508 00:44:01,930 --> 00:44:04,710 And some were on different floors. 509 00:44:05,430 --> 00:44:08,470 And the men were older. 510 00:44:09,070 --> 00:44:11,910 I feel like there was, I want to say, six girls. 511 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:14,970 I don't know how many men, to be honest. 512 00:44:18,550 --> 00:44:23,710 The next day, one of the girls had spoken to her mum about it, I think, and 513 00:44:23,710 --> 00:44:24,990 her mum had contacted the school. 514 00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:31,250 School had contacted social services, I think, and then from then, the police 515 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:33,830 got involved, and then they remained involved. 516 00:44:48,330 --> 00:44:51,750 I started working for the police in 2009. 517 00:44:52,090 --> 00:44:57,410 I can't say which police force it was but it was a force in the south. 518 00:44:57,730 --> 00:45:03,670 I was in the response team for six years and then after that I then joined the 519 00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:05,030 child exploitation team. 520 00:45:05,270 --> 00:45:10,090 I joined the force because I wanted to make a difference but I felt like I was 521 00:45:10,090 --> 00:45:11,830 being shut down the entire time. 522 00:45:12,210 --> 00:45:14,670 Officers join the police for lots of different reasons. 523 00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:19,130 Some of them join because they want to be really proactive, they want to fly 524 00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:23,470 out on blue lights and things like that. And so they don't necessarily want to do 525 00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:27,550 all the safeguarding side of stuff because it's all about, let's stop the 526 00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,430 drugs, let's do this, let's do that. 527 00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:37,610 There was a point that I genuinely wanted help from the police, but I feel 528 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:41,050 like they didn't care too much about the fact that I was being sexually abused or 529 00:45:41,050 --> 00:45:42,050 sexually exploited. 530 00:45:43,370 --> 00:45:47,790 I remember my youth worker, she was helping me follow through with the 531 00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:48,790 police. 532 00:45:49,070 --> 00:45:54,610 I sat for hours and hours in interviews and gave them information about what 533 00:45:54,610 --> 00:45:59,570 happened. But it was like the moment I told them about the drugs and the 534 00:45:59,570 --> 00:46:01,610 houses, everything shifted. 535 00:46:02,070 --> 00:46:06,230 I think they wanted to catch him for the drugs and everything else. 536 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:13,040 Little old me coming and saying, this is the abuse I'm going through wasn't 537 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,040 enough. 538 00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:19,680 And I guess the information that mattered the most to them was 539 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,360 information that I was bound to secrecy, that I would never give this 540 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,240 information. What information did the police want? 541 00:46:27,740 --> 00:46:28,800 Their addresses. 542 00:46:29,540 --> 00:46:32,440 That was the information they wanted. 543 00:46:37,390 --> 00:46:39,290 The culture in the unit was awful. 544 00:46:41,930 --> 00:46:45,550 The sergeant involved was very misogynistic. 545 00:46:46,910 --> 00:46:52,050 The more nuanced and difficult the case was, the more that he would try and 546 00:46:52,050 --> 00:46:57,130 ignore those or he'd like move down the risk rating until he could sort of move 547 00:46:57,130 --> 00:46:59,150 them off there and they wouldn't be under investigation. 548 00:47:01,530 --> 00:47:07,120 The language used to describe the girls would be very much focused on that child 549 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,660 taking risk, around that child having risky behaviours, around that child 550 00:47:12,660 --> 00:47:16,180 taking themselves to places that put them in danger. 551 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,880 I just feel like a lot of people failed me. 552 00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,240 The responsibility was very much placed on Christine putting herself in bad 553 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:32,020 situation with men and I didn't have respect for myself. 554 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,340 I don't know how you can sit and say a child who's, let's call it for what it 555 00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:42,200 is, being raped day in, day out, doesn't have respect for themselves. 556 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:48,980 Sometime after reporting the rapes, I called the police to get an update on 557 00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:49,980 the case. 558 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,720 They were telling me that they were, like, they'd been arrested for other 559 00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,020 things and that the other things were more important. 560 00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,480 Drugs, things like that. 561 00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:05,160 And... You'll hear back when there's any information, but right now these men 562 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,340 have got bigger fish to fry. 563 00:48:08,540 --> 00:48:09,780 Bigger fish to fry. 564 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,400 Nice. 565 00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:15,080 I remember that so vividly. 566 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:20,680 I just remember coming off the phone and just, like, just feeling completely 567 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:21,680 sick. 568 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:29,000 Like, that language just... You wouldn't really associate that with, like... 569 00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:35,280 a serious sexual assault case on a minor, like... 570 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:42,180 Nearly years later, I remember just a letter coming through the door 571 00:48:42,180 --> 00:48:48,480 saying, like, we've made the decision that due to basically us not thinking 572 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,000 that your mental health is good enough for cross-examination, we've decided to 573 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,000 close your case. 574 00:49:01,450 --> 00:49:05,590 And I remember being so anti it. I was like, they can keep their money. I don't 575 00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:06,590 want their money. 576 00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:08,810 I mean, what an insult. 577 00:49:13,470 --> 00:49:16,750 Those that abused me, nothing happened to them. 578 00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:19,890 They were never brought to justice. 579 00:49:24,930 --> 00:49:27,310 Eventually the pictures were put online. 580 00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:35,790 My school were notified and then they notified the police. 581 00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:38,670 But we didn't get any support. 582 00:49:40,070 --> 00:49:45,470 I just became that girl who, you know, was thought about as promiscuous. 583 00:49:47,250 --> 00:49:52,230 Like, I was making decisions and I was choosing to do this. 584 00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:10,230 I have a letter here that was written by the police. 585 00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:14,870 So it states here that the particular reasons in this case that have prevented 586 00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:18,450 me referring it to the CPS are as follows. 587 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:24,670 On the evidence available, there is not a realistic prospect of a conviction in 588 00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:25,529 this case. 589 00:50:25,530 --> 00:50:28,550 Therefore, I have closed the investigation. 590 00:50:30,310 --> 00:50:34,290 I felt the fact that they did nothing really made me feel like it wasn't 591 00:50:34,290 --> 00:50:35,290 abuse. 592 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,900 Made me carry a lot of shame. 593 00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,360 Made me feel like it was my fault. 594 00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:43,280 I blamed myself. 595 00:50:55,160 --> 00:51:00,140 This one particular night, I went missing because I had to go and do a job 596 00:51:00,140 --> 00:51:04,580 for the people that was making me sell drugs. And I was sent to an address. 597 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:12,200 I was led upstairs and when I was upstairs, I was sexually assaulted, 598 00:51:12,260 --> 00:51:13,260 I was tied up. 599 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,300 So when I had a chance, I just ran. 600 00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:19,600 I ended up at the closest train station. 601 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:25,200 I just clicked the button and somebody answered and I said, please help me, I'm 602 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,280 running. They said, you stay there, we can see you on the camera, the police 603 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,238 are on the way. 604 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:35,420 It felt like forever. When they got here, it was like before I even... told 605 00:51:35,420 --> 00:51:39,400 them anything when they when they found me it was like an eye roll because one 606 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:44,320 of the police officers knew who i was and it was like free taxi home then 607 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,220 luckily a female officer came i didn't know this officer she didn't know me i 608 00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:56,000 had you know cuts and bruises and my eye was black and my wrists were 609 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,360 were red and swollen and i was pleading and pleading to these officers that came 610 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,360 like Please look at me. Like, believe me. Listen to me. I need help. 611 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,260 I told them everything. 612 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,320 Everything that had happened. 613 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,040 They took my underwear that I was wearing. 614 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:17,480 They found his DNA. 615 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,940 They never found out what happened to people that had done this to me. 616 00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,900 At the time, that made me feel worthless. 617 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,440 Like, how can... 618 00:52:31,790 --> 00:52:36,090 I go through all this and you don't want to help me. What's wrong with me? Why 619 00:52:36,090 --> 00:52:37,090 me? 620 00:52:37,930 --> 00:52:43,410 My whole teenage years, growing up, I knew I'd either be dead 621 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:47,490 or in prison by the age of 20. 622 00:52:49,770 --> 00:52:56,210 I was in Victoria train station in Manchester, just about to go and meet 623 00:52:56,210 --> 00:53:00,090 the person who I used to run for. They called it running. 624 00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:01,490 when you run drugs. 625 00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:07,730 And as I was on my way, undercover police jumped out of a car and gripped 626 00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:12,970 me up. And unfortunately, I was found with seven wraps of crack cocaine on me 627 00:53:12,970 --> 00:53:15,110 and four wraps of heroin. 628 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:21,550 I was told in court that I'm going to get put away for my own safety as well 629 00:53:21,550 --> 00:53:23,370 of what I've done. 630 00:53:23,810 --> 00:53:28,810 But it confused me because I was like, why am I being punished if I'm not safe? 631 00:53:33,290 --> 00:53:39,530 I was basically institutionalised. I was basically locked away six, seven hours 632 00:53:39,530 --> 00:53:40,530 out of the day. 633 00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:15,060 You can't police your way out of sexual exploitation. 634 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:21,520 I'm much more interested in building safety around children and young people 635 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,880 and for children and young people. 636 00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:28,320 The police come in once exploitation has happened. 637 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,040 That can't be the basis upon which we build a safe society because then we're 638 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,580 building a society that responds to crime rather than a society that 639 00:54:37,580 --> 00:54:38,580 provides safety. 640 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:54,280 In January, the government asked Baroness Louise Casey, an experienced 641 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:59,400 Whitehall troubleshooter, to investigate the nature, scale and profile of group 642 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,720 -based child sexual abuse offending. 643 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,440 Finally, Baroness Casey describes ways in which patterns of grooming gang child 644 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,580 sexual exploitation are changing. 645 00:55:16,380 --> 00:55:20,820 including evidence of rape and sexual exploitation taking place in street 646 00:55:20,820 --> 00:55:25,780 gangs and drug gangs that combine criminal and sexual exploitation. 647 00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,100 I do not believe that this kind of exploitation has been sufficiently 648 00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,100 investigated. 649 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,380 This is actually a really big problem in the rural areas. 650 00:55:35,620 --> 00:55:38,280 You know, so many children are being exploited. 651 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,560 One of our key services is that prevention. 652 00:55:42,860 --> 00:55:44,540 It's those subtle signs. 653 00:55:46,030 --> 00:55:50,370 acting on you know when their behavior is slightly changing those early signs 654 00:55:50,370 --> 00:55:54,710 that that's the time to act before they get trapped because when they get 655 00:55:54,710 --> 00:56:00,390 trapped that's where it takes years to overcome the ongoing trauma that they're 656 00:56:00,390 --> 00:56:07,330 suffering i've struggled a lot and i was in mental 657 00:56:07,330 --> 00:56:13,790 health hospital um numerous times i was ready to kill myself three years ago 658 00:56:13,790 --> 00:56:20,590 i was ready to end it all But then I found something that I 659 00:56:20,590 --> 00:56:25,610 wouldn't change for the world. I found a job that actually gives me the 660 00:56:25,610 --> 00:56:28,210 motivation to just do anything in life. 661 00:56:37,550 --> 00:56:42,950 I started working as a co-researcher on a project looking into child care 662 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:44,770 exploitation and the care system. 663 00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:50,430 Our experience has been vital in helping us understand how we solve these things 664 00:56:50,430 --> 00:56:53,270 and how we make things, change policy, change practice. 665 00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:58,330 Because without that knowledge, I think we miss so much about how we can help 666 00:56:58,330 --> 00:56:59,830 sort things out and help fix things. 667 00:57:02,590 --> 00:57:06,610 I realised like, oh my God, I'm actually going to have a voice and I'm going to 668 00:57:06,610 --> 00:57:11,570 be able to actually tell these people, like, I've been through it and you're 669 00:57:11,570 --> 00:57:12,109 not alone. 670 00:57:12,110 --> 00:57:13,430 And that was the best. 671 00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:16,060 best news I could possibly get. 672 00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:22,820 Even though a lot of the people in these services didn't get it right and did 673 00:57:22,820 --> 00:57:28,820 fail me, there were some people that got it so right and I will never, ever 674 00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:31,160 forget them. You know, they changed my life. 675 00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:47,950 I'm sober, which I never ever thought would happen. I never saw like a life 676 00:57:47,950 --> 00:57:48,970 without drugs and alcohol. 677 00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:52,070 I thought that that was going to be with me till the very end. 678 00:57:53,290 --> 00:57:56,430 Today, I would say I'm safe. 679 00:57:57,850 --> 00:58:00,870 I have a lot of clarity in my life. 680 00:58:01,130 --> 00:58:02,830 I choose what I want to do. 681 00:58:03,770 --> 00:58:08,430 And I'm in a beautiful relationship with my lovely partner who is extremely 682 00:58:08,430 --> 00:58:09,430 supportive. 683 00:58:11,530 --> 00:58:16,410 And I think, like, the most important thing to mention is, like, I'm gay. 684 00:58:16,970 --> 00:58:22,310 And I didn't even get a chance to, like, explore my own sexuality because that 685 00:58:22,310 --> 00:58:23,930 was taken away from me as a child. 686 00:58:24,430 --> 00:58:27,230 I look in the mirror and I think, I'm really proud of you. 687 00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:30,930 Because it's not been easy, you know? 688 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:40,640 You were surrounded by so many people but you were still very, very isolated 689 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,540 and very, very alone. 690 00:58:43,180 --> 00:58:47,540 It just really frustrates me to be honest, especially that this is still 691 00:58:47,540 --> 00:58:49,640 really much happening to a lot of young people. 692 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:06,470 When I think about the lack of support and intervention. 693 00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:11,410 I just feel like she had no chance, no chance to start healing. 694 00:59:13,010 --> 00:59:16,410 It was something that she had to do as an adult. 695 00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:25,630 But I also feel 696 00:59:25,630 --> 00:59:29,570 by healing, by speaking, 697 00:59:33,390 --> 00:59:36,390 I've enabled her to finally be at rest. 698 00:59:43,070 --> 00:59:44,650 I just want to make a difference. 699 00:59:46,130 --> 00:59:51,830 I want to help others. I want to give people the second chance that I wish I 700 00:59:51,830 --> 00:59:52,990 had so much sooner. 701 00:59:53,530 --> 00:59:56,270 Today's my book launch, so we're literally just setting up. 702 00:59:56,510 --> 00:59:58,190 We're just waiting for guests to come in. 703 00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:59,630 I'm really excited. 704 00:59:59,810 --> 01:00:00,810 First book launch. 705 01:00:01,050 --> 01:00:02,050 Yeah. 706 01:00:02,380 --> 01:00:07,640 I am an author, I am a youth leader at my local church. 707 01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,100 I've learnt to turn my pain into purpose and it's not been an easy journey. 708 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:28,460 I'm grateful that you're all even here to witness even this day because I know 709 01:00:28,460 --> 01:00:31,340 many of you saw the days prior but it's... 710 01:00:31,710 --> 01:00:32,890 Yeah, I'm just humbled. 711 01:00:33,350 --> 01:00:37,110 I'm lost for words. I knew I was going to be overwhelmed, but I didn't think I 712 01:00:37,110 --> 01:00:38,110 would feel like this. 713 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:46,780 If you've been a victim of sexual abuse or violence, details of help and support 714 01:01:46,780 --> 01:01:51,800 are available on the BBC Action Line website, or you can call for free at any 715 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:57,240 time to hear recorded information on 0800 077 077. 62547

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