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In Southern California, there is a
playhouse where all sorts of stories
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come alive.
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A special place where the performers
form unbreakable bonds and share dreams
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of stardom.
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But when they're suddenly cast in an
actual murder investigation, their
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world of make-believe becomes a real
life.
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I just love theater.
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It was just something that gave me so
much joy.
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It's kind of bittersweet for me, not
being in a play for 15 years.
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Because you tend to eliminate.
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things that might remind you of that
traumatic event.
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I really haven't talked a lot about it
in over a decade.
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You know, because when something like
that happens, you're like, did I miss
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something?
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You know, just like, could something
have been done?
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The Hunger Artist Theatre Company.
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I was one of the founding artists
originally, and we wanted to produce and
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do shows that we felt passionate about.
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And we occasionally did musicals.
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So we put on Nine, which basically tells
the story of this man's life, and he's
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the only male in the show surrounded by
a bunch of women.
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There was this character, Le Fleur, who
was the producer, and I auditioned, and
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I got the part.
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And then there was Dan Wozniak, who was
the lead. He was the young man,
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full of energy.
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I was one of the people who worked at
the Hunger Artist Theater Company.
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It was a fun show, and people were drawn
to Dan, on and off stage.
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Daniel's fiancée, Rachel, also got cast
in the show, her being one of the eight
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women in it.
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I thought that was so sweet that they
were getting married, and you
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could tell they were a unit.
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Dan directed my high school production
of Beauty and the Beast.
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And then Rachel was choreographer.
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We would kind of laugh at them because
Dan was like a golden retriever, big,
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loud, funny, and Rachel had cat energy,
very straight-faced, very serious, just
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complete opposite couple.
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But they worked well together.
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My mom was a theater teacher, so I did a
lot of plays, and Dan was very hands-on,
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helping with directing, giving some tips
on...
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French accents and stuff like that. They
had invited me, you know, as we were
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wrapping up meeting the Beast, to go see
Nine. So I was really excited to see
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them put on a different face and act.
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I studied
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theater with Rachel,
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and so that's how I met her.
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And then...
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Dan and Rachel and I just would always
hang out all the time.
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There were lots of different groups that
we hung out with. Like, they had their
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community theater group.
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And then at the apartment complex, where
they lived, it was like a big group.
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And it was kind of a party apartment
complex.
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I just remember, you know, going there
and it's like, pool party.
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There was like 20, 30 people at the pool
party.
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Which is where I met their friend, Sam.
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Sam lived at the apartment complex. And
I remember him being goofy and telling a
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story where he walked out into the
middle of the street acting like a
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gorilla.
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And being, like, really outrageously
funny.
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Like, we were all cracking up, you know.
He was a really funny guy.
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Okay, what's going on, sir?
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I don't know what's going on.
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I miss the fun times. I wish that they
would all remain fun.
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And goofy and pleasant.
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And not tainted.
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Sam
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and
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I were extremely close.
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We were.
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best buddies.
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Sam was in Afghanistan for 15 months.
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And as he came out of the service, we
were more man-to-man versus father-son.
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He was going to college and living in
Orange County.
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The Friday, I believe, was the 21st.
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Sammy was supposed to come over.
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His mom, my wife, Raquel, had called him
at lunchtime, noontime, and he was
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saying he was doing something with a
friend.
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So the next day, all day, periodically,
I tried calling him.
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His phone went straight to voicemail,
which he never did. It never turned his
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phone off.
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And I wasn't really worried.
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But I said, I'm going to drive to Sam's
apartment and see if everything is okay.
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This was on Saturday evening.
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So I went, drove down, knocked at the
door, and there was no answer.
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But I had the key.
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I let myself in. Everything seemed in
order.
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And then I went to the bedroom.
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There was a body.
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There's a body in my son's apartment.
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There's a what?
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A body. A dead body. A dead body?
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There was a dead body in Sam's
apartment, and Sam was missing.
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I have no idea who it is.
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Does your son know who it is? He's not
here.
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Obviously, my concern was, where's my
son?
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Is he running?
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So I kept leaving messages, Sam, if
you're in trouble, call me. It went
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straight to the voicemail.
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I'll never forget the hardest part was
coming home and trying to break the news
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to my wife that in our son's apartment,
there was a dead body.
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I found out that it was a girl who was
tutoring Sam, Julie.
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Julie Kibuishi.
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Santa and Julie were friends.
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I met Julie at one of the apartment pool
parties, and she was so
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sweet.
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It was like all the girls were talking,
and all the boys were at the pool and by
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the barbecue.
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We were talking about ballet, about
college.
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We were talking about family heritage.
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She was a bubbly personality.
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Just nice.
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Bracken and I met Julie. She was a
sweetheart.
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Very outgoing, very bubbly. And she was
a dancer, but she was starting to
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be a fashion designer.
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And Julie became a very good friend to
Sam.
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Julie Kibuichi is murdered. A gunshot to
the head.
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I remember seeing the TV stations
showing that. All the stations have
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Sam's picture.
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I believe Sam would not do that to a
woman.
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But Sam was the primary suspect.
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He was wanted for murder, and he was
supposedly armed and dangerous.
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We were aired.
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Like, could Sam really be involved with
the murder?
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What happened?
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I had always wanted to think the best of
people, always give people the benefit
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of the doubt.
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But now, all the fun times that we had
together have been taken away.
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It's always in the back of my mind.
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This is my first video interview about
it. I have been asked multiple
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times before to do an interview about
it, and I haven't felt ready,
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I guess.
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I don't know. I guess I thought I could
make it through this without crying.
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You think 15 years has been long enough?
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I would spend all my free time with Dan
and Rachel at least three days a week.
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They were planning on getting married,
and I really liked them together.
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They're like, this is so cute.
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We all had a good time together.
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I was in a show with Dan and Rachel in
2009.
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It was a...
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Gilbert and Sullivan musical, where
we're just singing, We're called
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Gondolieri, but that's the contrary.
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But outside of the show, a group of us
would go out, have a couple of drinks,
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and sing karaoke.
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So that's where I would say the
friendship was more so forged.
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When we go to karaoke.
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I was always too nervous to get up and
sing.
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Yeah, we just had fun hanging out.
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Life was really good.
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And I remember around this time, me and
one of our friends were going to be
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bridesmaids.
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We were planning the bachelorette, and
they were working on the production
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nine.
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It was the closing weekend of the show,
and Dan and Rachel were performing at
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our theater all weekend and doing really
well.
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The show itself got great response. It
seemed to sell out the entire run.
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In fact, there had been talk about a
possible extension of another week, but
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they weren't able to do that because
that was the weekend that Daniel and
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Rachel were planning to be married.
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We were told it's one of the best shows
that the theater had had in a long time,
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so I was thrilled, you know.
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We had our cast party Saturday night.
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Rachel was there, and I talked to
Rachel, but I didn't see Dan.
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And at one point, I overheard Rachel on
the phone with him.
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And she said, you can use my shower.
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She was really, really, really late.
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And I remember thinking, that's weird.
It's the cast party and he's the star.
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Like, why isn't he here?
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Once they found Julie's body, on May
22nd, there was a large police
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presence at the department.
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Dan was Sam's neighbor. They were
directly above each other.
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Sam never mentioned anything about a
wedding.
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But there was a wedding invitation that
the police found on the counter of Sam's
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apartment.
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Dan and Rachel were still set to get
married and go on their honeymoon.
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The wedding was scheduled for about a
week after the show closed.
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I was speaking to a lot of Sam's friends
in that group.
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And Dan, he was filling me in on
information he was with Sam the day
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before on that Friday.
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Then he dropped him off with this guy.
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And they took off. I said, how was Sam?
He said, Sam was kind of nervous and
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upset.
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I said, well, what was he upset about?
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And he says, well, he was having family
problems.
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I knew immediately he was lying right
off the bat. When he said Sam had family
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problems, there were none.
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I've covered a lot of murders, and it
just seemed like a run-of-the-mill
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killing, and the killer was on the run.
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There was a body in Sam's apartment.
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Julie, his friend, his close friend,
that the police discovered, had been
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getting messages from Sam asking her to
come over that night.
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Steve was out there trying to convince
the cops that there's no way his son
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would have done that.
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But he was the most obvious suspect.
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Monday, Raquel and I were on Sam's bank
account, and I saw that there was a
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withdrawal.
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Sam was missing.
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So I had called the police. I gave them
his account number.
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They started tracking his debit card
purchases, and they see this pizza being
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bought, and it's delivered to a house,
and they, of course, thank Sam.
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hiding out there.
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It was a really heavy SWAT operation and
the police showed up there in force.
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But when they burst through the door,
they realized there was something else
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going on here.
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A college student is murdered.
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The lead suspect is missing.
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When his credit card is used for a pizza
delivery, police race to the address
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expecting a killer.
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Instead, they find a plot twist no one
saw coming.
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So the police showed up. thinking they
were going to arrest Sam.
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But they burst through the door, and
there's this 17-year-old kid, Wesley.
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My mom got me into acting when I was
very young.
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She was a theater teacher.
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I did a lot of plays. And then in high
school, a friend from the acting
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community that I trusted...
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Called me and reached out again.
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Hey, how you doing? How's your mom?
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And he said, I work for a bail bondsman
company and we're looking to hire
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someone that can do us some work. And I
was thinking about you.
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He had me look through the paperwork and
I was like, all right, cool. This seems
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all legit.
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He handed me the debit card and he said
to just withdraw as much as I can every
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day.
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That was it. You'll get a stipend every
time you withdraw, and he will collect
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it.
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Almost a week period passed, and then I
took the card and ordered pizza to my
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mom's house, and we kept hearing like a
helicopter.
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No idea what was going on.
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Yeah, and then my mom came to the door,
and then they raided the house.
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I don't know of a feeling to describe
when they tell you to not move and
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freeze and to get on the ground.
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What the hell just happened?
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And then they asked me who gave me the
card.
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They showed me a picture of Sam.
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This guy gave me the card. I said, no. A
family friend gave me the card. Who?
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And that's when I said.
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Daniel Wozniak.
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Dan's bachelor party was Wednesday, May
26th. He was supposed to get married a
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few days after.
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The police had called him ahead of time
and were saying, hey, you need to come
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down to the station. And he completely
brushed him off and said, oh, I can't
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right now because I'm going to my
bachelor party.
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Dan was acting completely normal.
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Everything was normal.
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And then the police showed up.
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If you're having a bachelor or
bachelorette party, usually when the
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police show up, it's usually more of a
gag like, ladies, I hear there's been
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a lot of disturbance. We're going to
have to take you downtown.
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This is not a gag.
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This is a real thing.
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Like, hey, we need you and we got to
bring everyone to the police station
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right now to ask some questions, see
who's connected to this.
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My friend messaged me and she said, did
you hear Dan was arrested?
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I was just shocked.
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And then I was like, okay, wow, what the
f*** happened?
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I'm like, I know all of these men.
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Are any of these men capable of that?
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When they questioned me, I had no idea
what was going on,
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like pure and simple.
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Murder was not even on my mind until
later down the road when they told me
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that.
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I literally just turned 17. And in the
acting community, Dan was a very
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prominent figure.
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But at that point, I was like, oh, shh.
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What did Dan get me into?
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We think Wesley and Daniel are then part
of the plan to funnel money to Sam while
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he's on the run.
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Dan Wozniak says he was with Sam.
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the day of Julie's murder.
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But he said he had no knowledge what
happened to Sam after that.
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We were in a show that night, a nine
musical down in Bullerton. We went down,
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drove to the theater, and everything was
fine.
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That weekend I was house managing, so
basically I was running the box office.
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Seeing him that night, he was completely
calm, joked around a lot, you know,
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very affable.
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Going to C9, I was, you know, just
amazed by him.
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And then after the show, I just remember
seeing him and then his big smile.
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Did you see Julie there in the
apartment?
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No, I did not. No, I did not.
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Were you there when she was shot?
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No, I was not. Are you sure about that?
I don't even know when she was shot.
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At first, he said he didn't know
anything about what happened.
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But Dan Wozniak had given...
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Sam's debit card to Wesley and asked him
to start withdrawing money.
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They're not buying it.
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It was a lot of time in an interrogation
room.
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I felt that I'm not proud of it.
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That whole interview just take a really
gruesome, dark turn.
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I have nothing to do with this because
my life was in danger with my wife. How
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was your life in danger?
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He threatened it.
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Where to begin?
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Okay, first, music.
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When you're in this tight-knit community
of a show, I think the last thing that
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would ever be on anyone's mind is the
idea that one of your close friends,
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castmates, has the potential to be
involved in a murder.
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I remember that night because I came to
actually see the production of Nine to
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support Dan and Rachel, and it was...
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It was that night. Yeah, I believe it
was Friday night when that happened to
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Julie. Yeah.
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It just leaves me speechless when I
heard Dan's been arrested. I was just
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floored.
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I got a text message from my girlfriend
who said, did you hear about Dan
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Wozniak? And it was a moment of, what?
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What are you talking about?
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There's nothing you can do to prepare
for a moment like that.
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People's dreams.
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Jesus.
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It makes me angry.
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He played us all, and that's not
something you forget.
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Dan's fiance, Rachel, was the
choreographer in Beauty and the Beast.
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And when I found out that Dan had been
arrested, one of my first thoughts was,
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is Rachel okay?
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I felt bad for her. Like, oh my gosh,
like all this shit is happening. You
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found out your fiance might even be
involved with this horrible thing.
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And I've seen the fire behind his eyes,
you know, when he gets angry.
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But murder is so horrible, awful.
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Yes, I helped Sam get away. Yes, I did
not know what he was planning until
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then. Yes, I lied to you guys earlier.
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Yes, I have to. Without that, I'm not
proud of him.
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He thinks he's giving the police this
big reveal, but they send him back to
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his cell. He's sitting there, and
there's a phone call that happens with
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Rachel.
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After that, he goes back in hours later.
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Everything about Dan's tone changes.
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You said you wanted to talk to me.
What's going on?
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I'm crazy, and I did it. You did what?
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I killed Julie, and I killed him.
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What he's telling them is he wasn't
helping Sam. He had killed Sam.
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Tell me how you killed Sam.
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Two shots.
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Using my father's gun that I had.
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The motive behind killing Sam was?
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Money and insanity. Money and insanity.
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Okay.
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Dan said he needed money. He was broke.
His wedding was coming up.
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His honeymoon was coming up, and Sam and
Dan were close enough that Dan knew Sam
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had $60,000 he'd saved up from his Army
service.
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Sam saved all his money from
Afghanistan. He would send it home, and
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it would all be put into that bank
account.
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After killing Sam, Dan left his body
there and then went to another theater
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to perform.
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Then the cover-up started.
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When Sam was already dead, Julie texted
Sam and said, hey, what are you doing?
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And Dan, as Sam was texting, I'm with
Dan.
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After that, Dan reaches out to Julie as
Sam and says, I need you.
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I need to talk to somebody.
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I need somebody. Come alone.
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And I was following everything that came
out on the news about it. He's a
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community theater actor.
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Prosecutors say cast himself in the role
of double murderer.
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Authorities uncover the body of Samuel
Hare in a Long Beach park.
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I remember pulling up articles and I
remember already at that point they said
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he was arrested for a double homicide
that he did while he was doing the
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production of Nine at our theater.
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unthinkable and then go on and perform
right after that like nothing has
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happened it's just i mean you can't make
it up like you would never in a million
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years think any human being would do
that and then knowing that
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detectives were coming to our company to
interview people it was just horrendous
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and I felt so terrible for the families
of both people involved.
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It was a shock. It really was.
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Because Dan was a friend, you know. I
was 17 years old, and I was completely
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blindsided with the fact that a close
person could mislead you, and so
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how do you proceed after that?
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Do you not trust anybody else, or do you
play the what-if game?
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Could he have been capable of killing
me?
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If I wasn't in the picture, could he
have maybe have gotten away with it?
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What if there was somebody else?
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We were kids and we all felt safe with
him.
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And so I was scared for Rachel.
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Where was she in this whirlwind of what
was going on?
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Is she okay?
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I found out that she canceled the
wedding. And so I feel bad for her
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automatically. And I called her.
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And I said, how are you? And she's like,
well, what do you want?
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And I was like, I'm just calling because
I'm concerned.
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She's like, you don't care about me. You
just want your 15 minutes of fame.
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She was so obsessed with becoming famous
and being a famous actress on stage.
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I know where her brain is. She was
engaged to a horrible person. Oh, woe is
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her, right? Like she wanted, I think she
really wanted to come out a victim of
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this.
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I said, bye, Rachel.
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And I hung up on her.
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And I remember going to my other
friend's house and she's like, that
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bitch did it. She was involved.
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And I was like, really? She's like, yes.
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Think about Rachel.
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A month before all of this shit went
down, we were talking about the
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bachelorette party and what we wanted to
do.
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And Rachel mentioned,
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to see.
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It's so fun. You should try it. And I
said, absolutely not. I don't do that.
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And she's like, well, if I slipped it in
your drink, you wouldn't know about it.
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I said, what?
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And the thing about Rachel, she's
serious.
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Like she would actually do it.
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And I knew that.
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I was like, I'm going to go on this
bachelorette party, and I'm going to
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hide my drink the entire time, and the
time I go to the bathroom, she's going
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to slip some.
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And so after that, I was very
uncomfortable.
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And I started panicking, like, I have to
get out of this. I have to get away from
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these people.
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Rachel texted me asking me to still be
her bridesmaid.
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Asking me to come over and hang out.
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And I look at what happened to Julie and
I think that it could have been me.
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Yeah, about to see how she could be
involved.
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Friends are shocked after Dan confesses
to a double murder.
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But as they replay scenes from the past,
it's Rachel's behavior
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they can't ignore.
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Is she innocent?
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Or is she playing them all?
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I haven't been in a play for 15 years
and it was that play.
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Among the cast, after
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this all came out, we all got together.
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Because I think at the time, we all were
feeling guilty.
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Like, what did we miss? You know, we
were asking, did you hear anything?
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What did you hear?
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We were just kind of trying to make
sense of this.
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And the case of Rachel, you just see
their relationship, and hindsight is
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golden.
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Because things that I recall...
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were pretty important when I found out
the timeline of everything.
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One of the last performances was
Saturday, and it was before anybody knew
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that anybody was missing or anything
like that.
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We had a matinee. You know, I just
remember Rachel standing in front of the
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mirror and she was putting her makeup on
and she said, I'm really worried about
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my friend.
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I think that someone else we know might
have hurt her.
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And, you know, we're all excited and
getting ready. These are the last shows
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we're doing. And I was like, why are you
saying that? Like, why would you think
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that? And she goes, I just have this
feeling.
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It really stood out as bizarre.
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Now I know that she was talking about
Julie.
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I had heard about that. I heard that she
had said to the dressing room. She did.
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I think the whole dressing room stopped.
It was just really blatantly.
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weird and out of place.
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And then again, at the cast party, she,
Dan wasn't there. And I heard her on the
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phone with him saying, yeah, you can use
my shower, get cleaned up and come over.
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Yeah, use my shower, get the blood
stains off.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, I even called
the detective after Dan had been
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arrested and said, I don't know who
you've talked to in the cast yet, but I
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would make sure that you're also looking
at Rachel.
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Rachel and Dan were very much a team.
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Everybody knew that. There's not a doubt
in my mind that when this went down,
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Rachel didn't have some knowledge of it
at the very least.
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One of the reasons Rachel became such a
character in this is while Daniel was
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locked up awaiting trial, Rachel was out
there talking to people. She was on Dr.
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Phil.
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Did you know that he had Any involvement
in these murders at all? After his
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confession to the police.
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So it was over the telephone.
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Her side of the story was, I'm the
victim here. I didn't realize my fiance
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had killed two people.
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But Rachel ultimately was charged with
being an accessory to murder.
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I thought I knew what she was capable
of, but I don't know what she's capable
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of anymore.
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How can you trust somebody like that?
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It still hurt
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because I did care about him.
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I cared about them both.
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Dan was charged with two counts of
first-degree murder, and because he did
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it for money, that made him eligible for
the death penalty.
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Sitting on the stand and then seeing him
after so many years and him smiling and
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looking you in the face and just shaking
his head, it gave me chills.
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Dan's attorneys tried to convince the
jury that he shouldn't get the death
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penalty. And one of the ways they
decided to do that was to cast blame on
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Rachel.
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On that part, we agreed.
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Said, yeah, she was part of it. But this
was Dan Wozniak's trial. He's the one
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who did it.
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And it was less than an hour. They came
back with a death sentence.
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Then we had to go to Rachel's trial.
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I do remember being asked to be like...
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a character witness for her. And I was
like, no.
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How can I be a character witness for
somebody whose character I don't trust?
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I look back and I'm like, what was the
lie? What was the truth? What were you
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deceiving me about? It mentally f***ed
you up.
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That's a trial. The prosecutor had 19
counts where she lied to the police.
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19 times. And he said, all I'm asking is
you find her guilty for one.
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And they did.
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Rachel ultimately was sentenced to 32
months in prison.
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And at this point, she has served her
time and been released.
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15 years later.
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I don't forget.
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And I always mention Julie every time I
mention Sam.
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Because they gave their lives for
believing that
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they were helping somebody. That's a
wonderful legacy.
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This is something that actually happened
in the midst of our community, in our
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company, in our safe space.
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And The Hunger Artist is no longer a
company.
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It makes me so sad.
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And I can't look back at those times
that I
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had fun with them without thinking about
what they did.
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To see what they did.
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You know?
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