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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,060 --> 00:00:05,940 In Southern California, there is a playhouse where all sorts of stories 2 00:00:05,940 --> 00:00:06,940 come alive. 3 00:00:11,340 --> 00:00:17,180 A special place where the performers form unbreakable bonds and share dreams 4 00:00:17,180 --> 00:00:18,180 of stardom. 5 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:25,720 But when they're suddenly cast in an actual murder investigation, their 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,340 world of make-believe becomes a real life. 7 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:50,920 I just love theater. 8 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,140 It was just something that gave me so much joy. 9 00:01:07,060 --> 00:01:12,200 It's kind of bittersweet for me, not being in a play for 15 years. 10 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,500 Because you tend to eliminate. 11 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:21,670 things that might remind you of that traumatic event. 12 00:01:23,230 --> 00:01:27,110 I really haven't talked a lot about it in over a decade. 13 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:32,270 You know, because when something like that happens, you're like, did I miss 14 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:33,270 something? 15 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:36,990 You know, just like, could something have been done? 16 00:02:01,580 --> 00:02:02,660 The Hunger Artist Theatre Company. 17 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,660 I was one of the founding artists originally, and we wanted to produce and 18 00:02:08,660 --> 00:02:10,699 do shows that we felt passionate about. 19 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,500 And we occasionally did musicals. 20 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,560 So we put on Nine, which basically tells the story of this man's life, and he's 21 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,560 the only male in the show surrounded by a bunch of women. 22 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,320 There was this character, Le Fleur, who was the producer, and I auditioned, and 23 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:42,320 I got the part. 24 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:49,560 And then there was Dan Wozniak, who was the lead. He was the young man, 25 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,500 full of energy. 26 00:02:53,580 --> 00:02:57,100 I was one of the people who worked at the Hunger Artist Theater Company. 27 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:05,160 It was a fun show, and people were drawn to Dan, on and off stage. 28 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:15,700 Daniel's fiancée, Rachel, also got cast in the show, her being one of the eight 29 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:17,160 women in it. 30 00:03:19,780 --> 00:03:26,680 I thought that was so sweet that they were getting married, and you 31 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,200 could tell they were a unit. 32 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:35,020 Dan directed my high school production of Beauty and the Beast. 33 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,660 And then Rachel was choreographer. 34 00:03:41,230 --> 00:03:45,750 We would kind of laugh at them because Dan was like a golden retriever, big, 35 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:51,190 loud, funny, and Rachel had cat energy, very straight-faced, very serious, just 36 00:03:51,190 --> 00:03:52,950 complete opposite couple. 37 00:03:53,470 --> 00:03:55,230 But they worked well together. 38 00:03:56,930 --> 00:04:03,690 My mom was a theater teacher, so I did a lot of plays, and Dan was very hands-on, 39 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:06,630 helping with directing, giving some tips on... 40 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,540 French accents and stuff like that. They had invited me, you know, as we were 41 00:04:11,540 --> 00:04:16,640 wrapping up meeting the Beast, to go see Nine. So I was really excited to see 42 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,779 them put on a different face and act. 43 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,320 I studied 44 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:30,100 theater with Rachel, 45 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,700 and so that's how I met her. 46 00:04:35,180 --> 00:04:36,240 And then... 47 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:40,530 Dan and Rachel and I just would always hang out all the time. 48 00:04:42,070 --> 00:04:47,550 There were lots of different groups that we hung out with. Like, they had their 49 00:04:47,550 --> 00:04:48,930 community theater group. 50 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:56,250 And then at the apartment complex, where they lived, it was like a big group. 51 00:04:58,590 --> 00:05:01,850 And it was kind of a party apartment complex. 52 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,760 I just remember, you know, going there and it's like, pool party. 53 00:05:11,540 --> 00:05:14,780 There was like 20, 30 people at the pool party. 54 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,560 Which is where I met their friend, Sam. 55 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:28,700 Sam lived at the apartment complex. And I remember him being goofy and telling a 56 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:34,240 story where he walked out into the middle of the street acting like a 57 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,240 gorilla. 58 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,900 And being, like, really outrageously funny. 59 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:46,620 Like, we were all cracking up, you know. He was a really funny guy. 60 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,420 Okay, what's going on, sir? 61 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:54,900 I don't know what's going on. 62 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:01,920 I miss the fun times. I wish that they would all remain fun. 63 00:06:03,020 --> 00:06:05,720 And goofy and pleasant. 64 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,740 And not tainted. 65 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:16,420 Sam 66 00:06:16,420 --> 00:06:23,300 and 67 00:06:23,300 --> 00:06:25,540 I were extremely close. 68 00:06:29,840 --> 00:06:31,500 We were. 69 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:32,840 best buddies. 70 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,580 Sam was in Afghanistan for 15 months. 71 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:44,640 And as he came out of the service, we were more man-to-man versus father-son. 72 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:55,220 He was going to college and living in Orange County. 73 00:06:57,460 --> 00:07:00,800 The Friday, I believe, was the 21st. 74 00:07:02,830 --> 00:07:04,330 Sammy was supposed to come over. 75 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:11,990 His mom, my wife, Raquel, had called him at lunchtime, noontime, and he was 76 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:13,910 saying he was doing something with a friend. 77 00:07:16,010 --> 00:07:20,570 So the next day, all day, periodically, I tried calling him. 78 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:26,670 His phone went straight to voicemail, which he never did. It never turned his 79 00:07:26,670 --> 00:07:27,670 phone off. 80 00:07:29,570 --> 00:07:31,510 And I wasn't really worried. 81 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:35,780 But I said, I'm going to drive to Sam's apartment and see if everything is okay. 82 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,560 This was on Saturday evening. 83 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:45,020 So I went, drove down, knocked at the door, and there was no answer. 84 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,120 But I had the key. 85 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,380 I let myself in. Everything seemed in order. 86 00:07:50,660 --> 00:07:52,420 And then I went to the bedroom. 87 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,440 There was a body. 88 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:01,880 There's a body in my son's apartment. 89 00:08:02,260 --> 00:08:03,199 There's a what? 90 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,600 A body. A dead body. A dead body? 91 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,280 There was a dead body in Sam's apartment, and Sam was missing. 92 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:12,960 I have no idea who it is. 93 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Does your son know who it is? He's not here. 94 00:08:20,580 --> 00:08:23,220 Obviously, my concern was, where's my son? 95 00:08:23,460 --> 00:08:24,640 Is he running? 96 00:08:26,830 --> 00:08:31,770 So I kept leaving messages, Sam, if you're in trouble, call me. It went 97 00:08:31,770 --> 00:08:33,390 straight to the voicemail. 98 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:39,870 I'll never forget the hardest part was coming home and trying to break the news 99 00:08:39,870 --> 00:08:45,530 to my wife that in our son's apartment, there was a dead body. 100 00:08:47,130 --> 00:08:51,250 I found out that it was a girl who was tutoring Sam, Julie. 101 00:08:53,630 --> 00:08:54,770 Julie Kibuishi. 102 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,940 Santa and Julie were friends. 103 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:09,680 I met Julie at one of the apartment pool parties, and she was so 104 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:10,680 sweet. 105 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:17,680 It was like all the girls were talking, and all the boys were at the pool and by 106 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:18,680 the barbecue. 107 00:09:20,700 --> 00:09:26,240 We were talking about ballet, about college. 108 00:09:28,680 --> 00:09:31,360 We were talking about family heritage. 109 00:09:32,740 --> 00:09:34,620 She was a bubbly personality. 110 00:09:35,220 --> 00:09:37,020 Just nice. 111 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,700 Bracken and I met Julie. She was a sweetheart. 112 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:48,940 Very outgoing, very bubbly. And she was a dancer, but she was starting to 113 00:09:48,940 --> 00:09:49,940 be a fashion designer. 114 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:54,920 And Julie became a very good friend to Sam. 115 00:09:57,260 --> 00:10:01,220 Julie Kibuichi is murdered. A gunshot to the head. 116 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,720 I remember seeing the TV stations showing that. All the stations have 117 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Sam's picture. 118 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:13,860 I believe Sam would not do that to a woman. 119 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,740 But Sam was the primary suspect. 120 00:10:18,060 --> 00:10:22,140 He was wanted for murder, and he was supposedly armed and dangerous. 121 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,160 We were aired. 122 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:29,670 Like, could Sam really be involved with the murder? 123 00:10:30,490 --> 00:10:31,850 What happened? 124 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:46,010 I had always wanted to think the best of people, always give people the benefit 125 00:10:46,010 --> 00:10:47,010 of the doubt. 126 00:10:48,510 --> 00:10:53,310 But now, all the fun times that we had together have been taken away. 127 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,160 It's always in the back of my mind. 128 00:11:00,620 --> 00:11:07,180 This is my first video interview about it. I have been asked multiple 129 00:11:07,180 --> 00:11:13,620 times before to do an interview about it, and I haven't felt ready, 130 00:11:13,860 --> 00:11:14,860 I guess. 131 00:11:15,460 --> 00:11:18,900 I don't know. I guess I thought I could make it through this without crying. 132 00:11:21,020 --> 00:11:23,360 You think 15 years has been long enough? 133 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:41,640 I would spend all my free time with Dan and Rachel at least three days a week. 134 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,820 They were planning on getting married, and I really liked them together. 135 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:50,140 They're like, this is so cute. 136 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,200 We all had a good time together. 137 00:11:58,580 --> 00:12:01,820 I was in a show with Dan and Rachel in 2009. 138 00:12:04,140 --> 00:12:05,140 It was a... 139 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:09,080 Gilbert and Sullivan musical, where we're just singing, We're called 140 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,180 Gondolieri, but that's the contrary. 141 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:18,220 But outside of the show, a group of us would go out, have a couple of drinks, 142 00:12:18,380 --> 00:12:19,800 and sing karaoke. 143 00:12:21,680 --> 00:12:26,200 So that's where I would say the friendship was more so forged. 144 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,920 When we go to karaoke. 145 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,680 I was always too nervous to get up and sing. 146 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:39,400 Yeah, we just had fun hanging out. 147 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:43,620 Life was really good. 148 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:50,260 And I remember around this time, me and one of our friends were going to be 149 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:51,260 bridesmaids. 150 00:12:53,920 --> 00:13:00,340 We were planning the bachelorette, and they were working on the production 151 00:13:00,340 --> 00:13:01,340 nine. 152 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,980 It was the closing weekend of the show, and Dan and Rachel were performing at 153 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:15,640 our theater all weekend and doing really well. 154 00:13:19,580 --> 00:13:23,160 The show itself got great response. It seemed to sell out the entire run. 155 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:28,940 In fact, there had been talk about a possible extension of another week, but 156 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:33,580 they weren't able to do that because that was the weekend that Daniel and 157 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:34,760 Rachel were planning to be married. 158 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:42,740 We were told it's one of the best shows that the theater had had in a long time, 159 00:13:42,860 --> 00:13:45,000 so I was thrilled, you know. 160 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,180 We had our cast party Saturday night. 161 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Rachel was there, and I talked to Rachel, but I didn't see Dan. 162 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,200 And at one point, I overheard Rachel on the phone with him. 163 00:14:07,980 --> 00:14:10,680 And she said, you can use my shower. 164 00:14:12,340 --> 00:14:15,040 She was really, really, really late. 165 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:21,060 And I remember thinking, that's weird. It's the cast party and he's the star. 166 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Like, why isn't he here? 167 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:33,800 Once they found Julie's body, on May 22nd, there was a large police 168 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,680 presence at the department. 169 00:14:41,660 --> 00:14:46,500 Dan was Sam's neighbor. They were directly above each other. 170 00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,440 Sam never mentioned anything about a wedding. 171 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:58,380 But there was a wedding invitation that the police found on the counter of Sam's 172 00:14:58,380 --> 00:14:59,380 apartment. 173 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:05,680 Dan and Rachel were still set to get married and go on their honeymoon. 174 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,780 The wedding was scheduled for about a week after the show closed. 175 00:15:13,100 --> 00:15:16,000 I was speaking to a lot of Sam's friends in that group. 176 00:15:19,340 --> 00:15:23,920 And Dan, he was filling me in on information he was with Sam the day 177 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,020 before on that Friday. 178 00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:28,440 Then he dropped him off with this guy. 179 00:15:28,940 --> 00:15:33,100 And they took off. I said, how was Sam? He said, Sam was kind of nervous and 180 00:15:33,100 --> 00:15:34,100 upset. 181 00:15:36,140 --> 00:15:37,940 I said, well, what was he upset about? 182 00:15:40,180 --> 00:15:43,060 And he says, well, he was having family problems. 183 00:15:45,540 --> 00:15:49,600 I knew immediately he was lying right off the bat. When he said Sam had family 184 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,060 problems, there were none. 185 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,400 I've covered a lot of murders, and it just seemed like a run-of-the-mill 186 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,080 killing, and the killer was on the run. 187 00:16:02,020 --> 00:16:03,880 There was a body in Sam's apartment. 188 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,060 Julie, his friend, his close friend, that the police discovered, had been 189 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:13,840 getting messages from Sam asking her to come over that night. 190 00:16:17,020 --> 00:16:20,720 Steve was out there trying to convince the cops that there's no way his son 191 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:21,720 would have done that. 192 00:16:23,470 --> 00:16:25,370 But he was the most obvious suspect. 193 00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:35,370 Monday, Raquel and I were on Sam's bank account, and I saw that there was a 194 00:16:35,370 --> 00:16:36,370 withdrawal. 195 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:39,470 Sam was missing. 196 00:16:40,370 --> 00:16:44,190 So I had called the police. I gave them his account number. 197 00:16:46,110 --> 00:16:49,990 They started tracking his debit card purchases, and they see this pizza being 198 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:53,070 bought, and it's delivered to a house, and they, of course, thank Sam. 199 00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:54,470 hiding out there. 200 00:16:56,890 --> 00:17:01,790 It was a really heavy SWAT operation and the police showed up there in force. 201 00:17:06,510 --> 00:17:10,589 But when they burst through the door, they realized there was something else 202 00:17:10,589 --> 00:17:11,589 going on here. 203 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:23,420 A college student is murdered. 204 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:27,140 The lead suspect is missing. 205 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:35,060 When his credit card is used for a pizza delivery, police race to the address 206 00:17:35,060 --> 00:17:36,640 expecting a killer. 207 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:43,580 Instead, they find a plot twist no one saw coming. 208 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:53,300 So the police showed up. thinking they were going to arrest Sam. 209 00:17:56,140 --> 00:17:59,520 But they burst through the door, and there's this 17-year-old kid, Wesley. 210 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,060 My mom got me into acting when I was very young. 211 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:12,580 She was a theater teacher. 212 00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:18,520 I did a lot of plays. And then in high school, a friend from the acting 213 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,120 community that I trusted... 214 00:18:22,340 --> 00:18:23,780 Called me and reached out again. 215 00:18:23,980 --> 00:18:25,620 Hey, how you doing? How's your mom? 216 00:18:25,900 --> 00:18:32,680 And he said, I work for a bail bondsman company and we're looking to hire 217 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,740 someone that can do us some work. And I was thinking about you. 218 00:18:37,260 --> 00:18:40,660 He had me look through the paperwork and I was like, all right, cool. This seems 219 00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:41,660 all legit. 220 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:49,380 He handed me the debit card and he said to just withdraw as much as I can every 221 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:50,380 day. 222 00:18:50,690 --> 00:18:55,190 That was it. You'll get a stipend every time you withdraw, and he will collect 223 00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:56,190 it. 224 00:18:59,710 --> 00:19:04,650 Almost a week period passed, and then I took the card and ordered pizza to my 225 00:19:04,650 --> 00:19:07,070 mom's house, and we kept hearing like a helicopter. 226 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:10,670 No idea what was going on. 227 00:19:11,910 --> 00:19:15,930 Yeah, and then my mom came to the door, and then they raided the house. 228 00:19:24,430 --> 00:19:31,210 I don't know of a feeling to describe when they tell you to not move and 229 00:19:31,210 --> 00:19:33,410 freeze and to get on the ground. 230 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:36,910 What the hell just happened? 231 00:19:38,730 --> 00:19:41,610 And then they asked me who gave me the card. 232 00:19:42,610 --> 00:19:44,150 They showed me a picture of Sam. 233 00:19:45,870 --> 00:19:49,630 This guy gave me the card. I said, no. A family friend gave me the card. Who? 234 00:19:51,770 --> 00:19:52,770 And that's when I said. 235 00:19:57,239 --> 00:19:58,239 Daniel Wozniak. 236 00:20:05,460 --> 00:20:10,400 Dan's bachelor party was Wednesday, May 26th. He was supposed to get married a 237 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,600 few days after. 238 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,540 The police had called him ahead of time and were saying, hey, you need to come 239 00:20:19,540 --> 00:20:23,360 down to the station. And he completely brushed him off and said, oh, I can't 240 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:25,180 right now because I'm going to my bachelor party. 241 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,700 Dan was acting completely normal. 242 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Everything was normal. 243 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,140 And then the police showed up. 244 00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:42,220 If you're having a bachelor or bachelorette party, usually when the 245 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:49,160 police show up, it's usually more of a gag like, ladies, I hear there's been 246 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,860 a lot of disturbance. We're going to have to take you downtown. 247 00:20:54,700 --> 00:20:57,080 This is not a gag. 248 00:20:59,180 --> 00:21:01,080 This is a real thing. 249 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:05,120 Like, hey, we need you and we got to bring everyone to the police station 250 00:21:05,120 --> 00:21:07,960 right now to ask some questions, see who's connected to this. 251 00:21:09,660 --> 00:21:14,380 My friend messaged me and she said, did you hear Dan was arrested? 252 00:21:16,540 --> 00:21:17,880 I was just shocked. 253 00:21:18,100 --> 00:21:23,220 And then I was like, okay, wow, what the f*** happened? 254 00:21:25,610 --> 00:21:27,390 I'm like, I know all of these men. 255 00:21:28,810 --> 00:21:31,430 Are any of these men capable of that? 256 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:41,470 When they questioned me, I had no idea what was going on, 257 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:43,110 like pure and simple. 258 00:21:45,930 --> 00:21:49,430 Murder was not even on my mind until later down the road when they told me 259 00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:50,430 that. 260 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,140 I literally just turned 17. And in the acting community, Dan was a very 261 00:21:55,140 --> 00:21:56,140 prominent figure. 262 00:21:56,420 --> 00:21:58,400 But at that point, I was like, oh, shh. 263 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:02,720 What did Dan get me into? 264 00:22:05,260 --> 00:22:11,300 We think Wesley and Daniel are then part of the plan to funnel money to Sam while 265 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:12,300 he's on the run. 266 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:19,040 Dan Wozniak says he was with Sam. 267 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:21,060 the day of Julie's murder. 268 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,580 But he said he had no knowledge what happened to Sam after that. 269 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:29,640 We were in a show that night, a nine musical down in Bullerton. We went down, 270 00:22:29,700 --> 00:22:31,980 drove to the theater, and everything was fine. 271 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:38,060 That weekend I was house managing, so basically I was running the box office. 272 00:22:39,220 --> 00:22:46,000 Seeing him that night, he was completely calm, joked around a lot, you know, 273 00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:47,020 very affable. 274 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:54,880 Going to C9, I was, you know, just amazed by him. 275 00:22:56,200 --> 00:23:01,960 And then after the show, I just remember seeing him and then his big smile. 276 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:04,600 Did you see Julie there in the apartment? 277 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,520 No, I did not. No, I did not. 278 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,280 Were you there when she was shot? 279 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,740 No, I was not. Are you sure about that? I don't even know when she was shot. 280 00:23:13,620 --> 00:23:15,760 At first, he said he didn't know anything about what happened. 281 00:23:16,340 --> 00:23:18,660 But Dan Wozniak had given... 282 00:23:19,130 --> 00:23:22,950 Sam's debit card to Wesley and asked him to start withdrawing money. 283 00:23:23,150 --> 00:23:24,690 They're not buying it. 284 00:23:27,530 --> 00:23:32,490 It was a lot of time in an interrogation room. 285 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:52,320 I felt that I'm not proud of it. 286 00:23:54,240 --> 00:24:00,040 That whole interview just take a really gruesome, dark turn. 287 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,320 I have nothing to do with this because my life was in danger with my wife. How 288 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,520 was your life in danger? 289 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,720 He threatened it. 290 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,160 Where to begin? 291 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,160 Okay, first, music. 292 00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:22,960 When you're in this tight-knit community of a show, I think the last thing that 293 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,420 would ever be on anyone's mind is the idea that one of your close friends, 294 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,320 castmates, has the potential to be involved in a murder. 295 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:44,020 I remember that night because I came to actually see the production of Nine to 296 00:24:44,020 --> 00:24:46,920 support Dan and Rachel, and it was... 297 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:51,460 It was that night. Yeah, I believe it was Friday night when that happened to 298 00:24:51,460 --> 00:24:53,160 Julie. Yeah. 299 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,480 It just leaves me speechless when I heard Dan's been arrested. I was just 300 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:02,480 floored. 301 00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:10,580 I got a text message from my girlfriend who said, did you hear about Dan 302 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:13,860 Wozniak? And it was a moment of, what? 303 00:25:14,060 --> 00:25:15,600 What are you talking about? 304 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,160 There's nothing you can do to prepare for a moment like that. 305 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:23,220 People's dreams. 306 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:24,980 Jesus. 307 00:25:25,860 --> 00:25:27,780 It makes me angry. 308 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:36,360 He played us all, and that's not something you forget. 309 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:44,450 Dan's fiance, Rachel, was the choreographer in Beauty and the Beast. 310 00:25:44,610 --> 00:25:49,150 And when I found out that Dan had been arrested, one of my first thoughts was, 311 00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:50,770 is Rachel okay? 312 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:58,530 I felt bad for her. Like, oh my gosh, like all this shit is happening. You 313 00:25:58,530 --> 00:26:02,090 found out your fiance might even be involved with this horrible thing. 314 00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:11,080 And I've seen the fire behind his eyes, you know, when he gets angry. 315 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,700 But murder is so horrible, awful. 316 00:26:22,740 --> 00:26:27,040 Yes, I helped Sam get away. Yes, I did not know what he was planning until 317 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,780 then. Yes, I lied to you guys earlier. 318 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,500 Yes, I have to. Without that, I'm not proud of him. 319 00:26:34,540 --> 00:26:38,000 He thinks he's giving the police this big reveal, but they send him back to 320 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,160 his cell. He's sitting there, and there's a phone call that happens with 321 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,160 Rachel. 322 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,820 After that, he goes back in hours later. 323 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,480 Everything about Dan's tone changes. 324 00:26:50,980 --> 00:26:53,640 You said you wanted to talk to me. What's going on? 325 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:57,420 I'm crazy, and I did it. You did what? 326 00:27:00,060 --> 00:27:01,840 I killed Julie, and I killed him. 327 00:27:04,940 --> 00:27:08,860 What he's telling them is he wasn't helping Sam. He had killed Sam. 328 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:11,920 Tell me how you killed Sam. 329 00:27:13,540 --> 00:27:14,540 Two shots. 330 00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:17,380 Using my father's gun that I had. 331 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,880 The motive behind killing Sam was? 332 00:27:22,020 --> 00:27:24,580 Money and insanity. Money and insanity. 333 00:27:25,020 --> 00:27:26,020 Okay. 334 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:33,700 Dan said he needed money. He was broke. His wedding was coming up. 335 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:38,740 His honeymoon was coming up, and Sam and Dan were close enough that Dan knew Sam 336 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:41,380 had $60,000 he'd saved up from his Army service. 337 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:48,120 Sam saved all his money from Afghanistan. He would send it home, and 338 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,920 it would all be put into that bank account. 339 00:28:04,340 --> 00:28:09,180 After killing Sam, Dan left his body there and then went to another theater 340 00:28:09,180 --> 00:28:10,180 to perform. 341 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,500 Then the cover-up started. 342 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,380 When Sam was already dead, Julie texted Sam and said, hey, what are you doing? 343 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,820 And Dan, as Sam was texting, I'm with Dan. 344 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:51,340 After that, Dan reaches out to Julie as Sam and says, I need you. 345 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,540 I need to talk to somebody. 346 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,460 I need somebody. Come alone. 347 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,460 And I was following everything that came out on the news about it. He's a 348 00:29:12,460 --> 00:29:13,580 community theater actor. 349 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,220 Prosecutors say cast himself in the role of double murderer. 350 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,760 Authorities uncover the body of Samuel Hare in a Long Beach park. 351 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,600 I remember pulling up articles and I remember already at that point they said 352 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,220 he was arrested for a double homicide that he did while he was doing the 353 00:29:34,220 --> 00:29:35,660 production of Nine at our theater. 354 00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:43,590 unthinkable and then go on and perform right after that like nothing has 355 00:29:43,590 --> 00:29:50,510 happened it's just i mean you can't make it up like you would never in a million 356 00:29:50,510 --> 00:29:57,330 years think any human being would do that and then knowing that 357 00:29:57,330 --> 00:30:03,210 detectives were coming to our company to interview people it was just horrendous 358 00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:07,540 and I felt so terrible for the families of both people involved. 359 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240 It was a shock. It really was. 360 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,680 Because Dan was a friend, you know. I was 17 years old, and I was completely 361 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:26,340 blindsided with the fact that a close person could mislead you, and so 362 00:30:26,340 --> 00:30:28,180 how do you proceed after that? 363 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,880 Do you not trust anybody else, or do you play the what-if game? 364 00:30:34,890 --> 00:30:38,350 Could he have been capable of killing me? 365 00:30:41,390 --> 00:30:44,870 If I wasn't in the picture, could he have maybe have gotten away with it? 366 00:30:46,330 --> 00:30:47,770 What if there was somebody else? 367 00:30:54,750 --> 00:30:57,770 We were kids and we all felt safe with him. 368 00:31:00,650 --> 00:31:03,550 And so I was scared for Rachel. 369 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,600 Where was she in this whirlwind of what was going on? 370 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:11,140 Is she okay? 371 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,740 I found out that she canceled the wedding. And so I feel bad for her 372 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:20,580 automatically. And I called her. 373 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,420 And I said, how are you? And she's like, well, what do you want? 374 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,620 And I was like, I'm just calling because I'm concerned. 375 00:31:33,290 --> 00:31:37,010 She's like, you don't care about me. You just want your 15 minutes of fame. 376 00:31:38,850 --> 00:31:44,950 She was so obsessed with becoming famous and being a famous actress on stage. 377 00:31:46,690 --> 00:31:52,030 I know where her brain is. She was engaged to a horrible person. Oh, woe is 378 00:31:52,030 --> 00:31:58,290 her, right? Like she wanted, I think she really wanted to come out a victim of 379 00:31:58,290 --> 00:31:59,290 this. 380 00:32:00,310 --> 00:32:02,090 I said, bye, Rachel. 381 00:32:02,620 --> 00:32:03,620 And I hung up on her. 382 00:32:06,740 --> 00:32:10,780 And I remember going to my other friend's house and she's like, that 383 00:32:10,780 --> 00:32:12,540 bitch did it. She was involved. 384 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,680 And I was like, really? She's like, yes. 385 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:20,080 Think about Rachel. 386 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:27,020 A month before all of this shit went down, we were talking about the 387 00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:29,720 bachelorette party and what we wanted to do. 388 00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:31,480 And Rachel mentioned, 389 00:32:32,460 --> 00:32:33,460 to see. 390 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,340 It's so fun. You should try it. And I said, absolutely not. I don't do that. 391 00:32:38,820 --> 00:32:41,840 And she's like, well, if I slipped it in your drink, you wouldn't know about it. 392 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:43,500 I said, what? 393 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,420 And the thing about Rachel, she's serious. 394 00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:56,680 Like she would actually do it. 395 00:32:56,940 --> 00:32:58,100 And I knew that. 396 00:33:01,610 --> 00:33:05,190 I was like, I'm going to go on this bachelorette party, and I'm going to 397 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:08,990 hide my drink the entire time, and the time I go to the bathroom, she's going 398 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:09,990 to slip some. 399 00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:14,910 And so after that, I was very uncomfortable. 400 00:33:19,710 --> 00:33:24,650 And I started panicking, like, I have to get out of this. I have to get away from 401 00:33:24,650 --> 00:33:25,650 these people. 402 00:33:30,210 --> 00:33:34,330 Rachel texted me asking me to still be her bridesmaid. 403 00:33:39,370 --> 00:33:41,290 Asking me to come over and hang out. 404 00:33:42,030 --> 00:33:46,350 And I look at what happened to Julie and I think that it could have been me. 405 00:33:54,290 --> 00:33:56,550 Yeah, about to see how she could be involved. 406 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,940 Friends are shocked after Dan confesses to a double murder. 407 00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:11,500 But as they replay scenes from the past, it's Rachel's behavior 408 00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:12,500 they can't ignore. 409 00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:16,040 Is she innocent? 410 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,739 Or is she playing them all? 411 00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:36,110 I haven't been in a play for 15 years and it was that play. 412 00:34:38,969 --> 00:34:45,790 Among the cast, after 413 00:34:45,790 --> 00:34:48,449 this all came out, we all got together. 414 00:34:51,150 --> 00:34:55,030 Because I think at the time, we all were feeling guilty. 415 00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:58,950 Like, what did we miss? You know, we were asking, did you hear anything? 416 00:34:59,150 --> 00:35:00,150 What did you hear? 417 00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:05,650 We were just kind of trying to make sense of this. 418 00:35:07,810 --> 00:35:12,490 And the case of Rachel, you just see their relationship, and hindsight is 419 00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:13,490 golden. 420 00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:17,650 Because things that I recall... 421 00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:22,640 were pretty important when I found out the timeline of everything. 422 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:33,100 One of the last performances was Saturday, and it was before anybody knew 423 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:36,080 that anybody was missing or anything like that. 424 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:43,540 We had a matinee. You know, I just remember Rachel standing in front of the 425 00:35:43,540 --> 00:35:49,140 mirror and she was putting her makeup on and she said, I'm really worried about 426 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:50,140 my friend. 427 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,900 I think that someone else we know might have hurt her. 428 00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:00,720 And, you know, we're all excited and getting ready. These are the last shows 429 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,980 we're doing. And I was like, why are you saying that? Like, why would you think 430 00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:07,360 that? And she goes, I just have this feeling. 431 00:36:08,650 --> 00:36:11,050 It really stood out as bizarre. 432 00:36:11,570 --> 00:36:14,010 Now I know that she was talking about Julie. 433 00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:21,470 I had heard about that. I heard that she had said to the dressing room. She did. 434 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:25,830 I think the whole dressing room stopped. It was just really blatantly. 435 00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:28,380 weird and out of place. 436 00:36:28,660 --> 00:36:33,300 And then again, at the cast party, she, Dan wasn't there. And I heard her on the 437 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:38,800 phone with him saying, yeah, you can use my shower, get cleaned up and come over. 438 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,140 Yeah, use my shower, get the blood stains off. 439 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,620 Yeah. I mean, you know, I even called the detective after Dan had been 440 00:36:45,620 --> 00:36:51,340 arrested and said, I don't know who you've talked to in the cast yet, but I 441 00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:55,740 would make sure that you're also looking at Rachel. 442 00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,160 Rachel and Dan were very much a team. 443 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,820 Everybody knew that. There's not a doubt in my mind that when this went down, 444 00:37:04,860 --> 00:37:08,660 Rachel didn't have some knowledge of it at the very least. 445 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,420 One of the reasons Rachel became such a character in this is while Daniel was 446 00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:21,780 locked up awaiting trial, Rachel was out there talking to people. She was on Dr. 447 00:37:21,940 --> 00:37:22,940 Phil. 448 00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:28,770 Did you know that he had Any involvement in these murders at all? After his 449 00:37:28,770 --> 00:37:29,770 confession to the police. 450 00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:31,910 So it was over the telephone. 451 00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:36,410 Her side of the story was, I'm the victim here. I didn't realize my fiance 452 00:37:36,410 --> 00:37:37,470 had killed two people. 453 00:37:38,130 --> 00:37:42,650 But Rachel ultimately was charged with being an accessory to murder. 454 00:37:47,930 --> 00:37:52,370 I thought I knew what she was capable of, but I don't know what she's capable 455 00:37:52,370 --> 00:37:53,368 of anymore. 456 00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:55,690 How can you trust somebody like that? 457 00:37:58,470 --> 00:38:05,230 It still hurt 458 00:38:05,230 --> 00:38:09,270 because I did care about him. 459 00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:10,990 I cared about them both. 460 00:38:14,230 --> 00:38:17,410 Dan was charged with two counts of first-degree murder, and because he did 461 00:38:17,410 --> 00:38:19,770 it for money, that made him eligible for the death penalty. 462 00:38:22,990 --> 00:38:29,730 Sitting on the stand and then seeing him after so many years and him smiling and 463 00:38:29,730 --> 00:38:36,330 looking you in the face and just shaking his head, it gave me chills. 464 00:38:40,050 --> 00:38:44,010 Dan's attorneys tried to convince the jury that he shouldn't get the death 465 00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:47,870 penalty. And one of the ways they decided to do that was to cast blame on 466 00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:48,870 Rachel. 467 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,200 On that part, we agreed. 468 00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:59,800 Said, yeah, she was part of it. But this was Dan Wozniak's trial. He's the one 469 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,800 who did it. 470 00:39:03,740 --> 00:39:07,900 And it was less than an hour. They came back with a death sentence. 471 00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:14,520 Then we had to go to Rachel's trial. 472 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,580 I do remember being asked to be like... 473 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:23,750 a character witness for her. And I was like, no. 474 00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:30,550 How can I be a character witness for somebody whose character I don't trust? 475 00:39:32,790 --> 00:39:37,250 I look back and I'm like, what was the lie? What was the truth? What were you 476 00:39:37,250 --> 00:39:40,570 deceiving me about? It mentally f***ed you up. 477 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:49,890 That's a trial. The prosecutor had 19 counts where she lied to the police. 478 00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,860 19 times. And he said, all I'm asking is you find her guilty for one. 479 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:58,100 And they did. 480 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Rachel ultimately was sentenced to 32 months in prison. 481 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:14,820 And at this point, she has served her time and been released. 482 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,860 15 years later. 483 00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:22,490 I don't forget. 484 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:29,170 And I always mention Julie every time I mention Sam. 485 00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:38,730 Because they gave their lives for believing that 486 00:40:38,730 --> 00:40:41,530 they were helping somebody. That's a wonderful legacy. 487 00:40:44,610 --> 00:40:47,630 This is something that actually happened in the midst of our community, in our 488 00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:49,010 company, in our safe space. 489 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,760 And The Hunger Artist is no longer a company. 490 00:40:58,380 --> 00:41:01,840 It makes me so sad. 491 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:08,940 And I can't look back at those times that I 492 00:41:08,940 --> 00:41:12,000 had fun with them without thinking about what they did. 493 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:16,980 To see what they did. 494 00:41:22,529 --> 00:41:23,529 You know? 40904

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