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-A naval officer battles
a mysterious illness below deck
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on the open seas...
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-He was a healthy,
reasonably young guy.
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It was a puzzler.
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-...but loses the fight.
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-They still hadn't
determined yet what killed Lee.
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-But an autopsy
provides investigators
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with a chilling answer
for his death.
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-We found out
that he had an elevated amount
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of arsenic in his blood.
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You say to yourself,
"Holy cow, how did that happen?"
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-It could have been
an accidental poisoning.
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Was it a suicide?
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-Somebody had painted graffiti
on the ship.
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Maybe somebody on the ship
was trying to kill him.
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-I said, "Oh, man,
I hope they find out who did it,
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and I hope they pay."
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-All roads lead to dead ends...
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-If your primary suspect
passes the polygraph,
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that certainly creates
a roadblock
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and the case becomes
a cold case.
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-...until investigators work
towards a shocking admission.
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-It's just one
of the most bizarre confessions
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I've had in my entire career
as a prosecutor.
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-In the Mediterranean Sea
off the coast of Spain,
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the USS Forrestal cruises
the open waters.
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The aircraft carrier is one
of the crown jewels
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of the U.S. naval fleet.
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-The ship itself
would house about 5,000 people
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and had the ability to provide
services that people require.
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Medical services --
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There was a hospital and doctors
facility on board,
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a surgeon on board
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because they had to be prepared
to treat battle injuries in case
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they were called
upon to go to war.
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-But below the deck,
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doctors are not treating
a sailor injured in battle.
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They are tending to 37-year-old
Lieutenant Lee Hartley,
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who is battling
a mysterious illness.
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-His job on the Forrestal
was as the disciplinary officer.
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-Lee Hartley was
very well respected by friends
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and by the people
he actually supervised.
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-I got to know Lee
fairly well,
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and I knew
that he was recently married.
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I knew that he was divorced.
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I knew he had a child.
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He and I would talk
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whenever I was in the
staff judge advocate's office.
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Every once in a while,
he'd drop down.
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We would eat dinner
together in the officer's mess.
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Just a good guy.
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When Lee became sick,
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he started to exhibit symptoms
that required treatment.
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-He was suffering from nausea,
diarrhea, vomiting, dizziness.
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-He had ulcerated areas
in his mouth,
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his lips,
severe stomach pain.
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-Mom told us
that Lee was really sick.
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The ship doctor thought
he might have the flu.
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And the flu can hold on for days
at a time.
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-You know, there is a lot
of things they examine,
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but they really weren't
sure what was going on.
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-While the ship was
in the Mediterranean,
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his situation deteriorated
over time.
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He had great discomfort.
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He was just sick
and sicker to the extent
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that the ship was
not capable of doing
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the diagnostic work
that was required to figure out
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what the heck was wrong
with him.
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The ship said,
"We just can't help him.
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We got to get him home."
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Lee eventually was medevaced,
medically evacuated,
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from the ship
back to Jacksonville
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and was treated at
the Jacksonville naval Hospital.
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-While doctors order
additional tests
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to determine what is ailing Lee,
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his wife, Pamela,
rushes to her husband's bedside.
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-He'd get better,
but then he'd get worse.
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He was very, very ill.
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It caused a severe bloating
of his body.
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-Dad called and said,
"We got to go to Florida now."
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He said,
"Lee is in the hospital,
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and they don't expect
him to make it."
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And we got there,
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but Lee was
not cognizant at all.
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He looked like
he weighed 300 pounds.
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-The cause of Lee's illness
remains a mystery
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as his body begins to shut down.
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-Lieutenant Hartley,
after approximately five months
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of being ill
starting on the Forrestal,
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ended up finally passing
away on November 18th of 1982.
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-Mom got the phone call
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and she called us
and we got together,
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and then we drove down there
after he passed away,
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of course,
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because he was already gone
and it was just devastating.
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-Verle Lee Hartley was
my older brother
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by about 14 months.
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-There are seven of us
and the oldest one is Verle Lee.
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We all grew up in Elwood,
Indiana.
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We'd play hide and go seek,
tag and kick the can,
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and we had a really good time.
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-He was a very laid-back
person.
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He really was.
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Wasn't a mean streak in him.
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-Being our big brother
who always --
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when something came up,
he tried to handle it.
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And that's what big brothers do.
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-As a teenager, Lee
had ambitions to join the Navy.
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At 17,
with the support of his parents,
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he enlisted
and left home for the high seas.
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-He was all Navy.
He really was.
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He was all Navy.
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-He just really loved being
in the service.
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He was quite good at the job
he did.
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-Lee quickly makes
a name for himself in the Navy,
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and his high aspirations draw
attention from superiors.
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While stationed in Florida,
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the rising star Lee Hartley
falls in love with Linda Patel,
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and the two are married.
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Seven years later, Lee and Linda
welcomed their only child,
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a daughter named Stephanie.
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-He thought that Stephanie was
just the cat's meow.
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You know, she could do
no wrong.
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That's a real daddy's girl,
you know?
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-After years
of climbing the ranks,
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Lee Hartley became a naval
lieutenant on the USS Forrestal.
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When Lieutenant Hartley
turned 37,
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less than a year before he died,
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he experienced a little bit
of a midlife crisis,
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and he fell in love
with his secretary.
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Her name was Pamela Johnson.
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She was a pretty redhead
and 12 years his junior.
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-When Lieutenant Hartley
had met Pamela Johnson,
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she actually was in the Navy
and worked for him.
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And then that's when they
became a couple.
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In the military, that actually
is fairly frowned upon.
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So she had left the Navy.
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-Lee decides to divorce Linda,
and he and Pamela
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are married just a few months
into their relationship.
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-They fall in love.
They get married.
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They're making a life
for themselves.
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And all of a sudden,
Lee subsequently passes.
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-They still hadn't
determined yet what killed Lee.
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-He was a healthy,
reasonably young guy.
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It was a puzzler.
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-Nothing seemed right
at the time.
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Why Lee?
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I mean,
it just didn't seem right.
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They kept saying
that he'd come off the ship
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with flu-like symptoms.
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And I said, "No, it can't be.
The flu don't last this long."
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And my stepmother decided
that she wanted an autopsy.
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She pushed enough,
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the Navy decided to go ahead
and do the autopsy.
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-From the autopsy,
the medical examiner determines
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that Lee Hartley died
of cardiopulmonary arrest
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due to the stress
that the 5-month-long
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mysterious illness put on
his body.
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But with the cause
of the sickness still unknown,
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Lee's blood and hair samples
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are sent to
the toxicology lab for testing.
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As his family awaits
the results,
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they prepare to lay the
decorated naval veteran to rest.
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-We went to the funeral
in Augusta, Georgia,
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at Pam's mother's home.
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-But it didn't even
look like him in the casket.
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I mean, he was so blowed up.
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His face looked like
it could bust any second.
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He just looked like somebody put
air in him and blowed him up.
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It didn't look like him.
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Mom had a nervous breakdown,
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complete nervous breakdown.
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I mean, she shut down.
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It was awful.
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We should have just buried her
with Verle
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because it was that bad.
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-Weeks after Lieutenant
Hartley is laid to rest,
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his toxicology tests arrive
with unexpected results.
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-When we received
the toxicology report back
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after the autopsy,
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we found out that he had
an elevated amount of arsenic
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in his blood, quite elevated.
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Lee had approximately a thousand
times more arsenic in his body
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than one would expect.
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That was the cause of his death.
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Well, when we found out that Lee
had this high level of arsenic
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in his blood,
you say to yourself,
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"Holy cow,
how did that happen?"
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It became obvious that not only
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was Lee homesick
for being with his wife,
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but he was also
a little bit jealous.
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Clearly, he wanted to be
with his new wife.
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Maybe he was trying
to be relieved from the ship
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and sent home.
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-Lieutenant Lee Hartley's
blood sample
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shows lethal levels of arsenic,
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finally giving NCIS
investigators an explanation
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for his months-long sickness.
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-He was losing weight.
He had severe stomach pains.
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He was vomiting.
He had diarrhea.
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All of these were typical
symptoms for arsenic poisoning.
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-In my experience,
he's the only person I know of
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who has died
from arsenic poisoning.
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We are exposed to arsenic
in the dirt
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and maybe a little bit in water
and other things,
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but only minute amounts
that don't affect us over --
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even over a long lifespan.
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But a thousand times
more is a lot.
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-It is tasteless, odorless,
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but once it gets into
the system, it doesn't go away.
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-And so if you get
a little bit of arsenic today
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and a little bit of arsenic
tomorrow
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and a little bit more arsenic
the next day,
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each day that amount of arsenic
is building in your body.
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-Once it was determined
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that Lieutenant Hartley
had been exposed
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and died from arsenic poisoning,
at that point,
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they had to look at, "Well,
where did it come from?"
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And the first thought is,
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could it have been
something on the ship?
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So could it have been
an accidental poisoning?
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-For all we know, there
might have been arsenic used
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in various ways on the ship.
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There might have been piles of
arsenic laying around the ship
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for some purpose
at various times,
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which would be
of critical concern to the ship
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because if they used arsenic on
board the ship for any purpose,
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well, then everybody on the ship
will be exposed to this.
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It would be an epidemic
of people dying
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if this stuff was all
over the ship for some reason.
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We need to find out
from the supply officer
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whether or not there's
arsenic on board the ship
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and what's it used for?
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And the answer was
they had no arsenic on the ship,
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and they didn't use it
for anything.
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So, Lee,
if he was exposed to arsenic,
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it wasn't an environmental
or an industrial issue now
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for the Navy.
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It was something else.
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-That's when
they were looking at,
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"Could this have been
intentional?"
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-Was there some reason for
somebody to want to do him harm?
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The challenge that we faced
251
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is we didn't even have
all the puzzle pieces.
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-With the USS Forrestal
in the Mediterranean
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on a 6-month deployment
254
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holding potential clues
in Lee's death,
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NCIS investigators are forced
to get creative,
256
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and recent headlines spark
a theory.
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-In 1982,
there was a number of cases
258
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where people were poisoned
by Tylenol
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that they bought on the shelves.
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And back then,
if you took the capsules,
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you could open it
and put something in them.
262
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And somebody had put
potassium cyanide in a number
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of different bottles
in a number of different stores,
264
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and it's never been solved
to this day.
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-Tylenol poisonings
have just shocked the nation
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after seven people died.
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Only a month earlier,
on October 5th,
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a nationwide recall of
Tylenol products was announced.
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-Investigators notice
in the personal effects
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that came home with Lee
from the Forrestal
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is a bottle of Tylenol.
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They're concerned that
Lee Hartley could be the victim
273
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of a similar case,
274
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and he's unknowingly
ingested capsules
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purposely tainted with arsenic.
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-So we seized medicines
that he had
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and had them examined to see
if there was anything in them,
278
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see if they'd been tainted.
279
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None of those tests showed
that there was any problem.
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It didn't turn anything up.
281
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-As NCIS agents continue
to rule out possibilities
282
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of the arsenic source,
283
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they must determine if
someone aboard the USS Forrestal
284
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was trying to harm Lee.
285
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To explore the theory,
286
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they set up an interview with
Lee's widow, Pamela Hartley.
287
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-I drove up to Georgia,
met the agent there,
288
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and we then went to
her mother's house.
289
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And it was a difficult interview
290
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because she was
the grieving widow,
291
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and we were sorry to be there
talking to her
292
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about the death of her husband,
which had to be heartbreaking.
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The idea would be to go and see
what was his life like at home?
294
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What happened?
295
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-Pamela tells agents
that during Lee's
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final deployment
in the Mediterranean,
297
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his demeanor changed.
298
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Lee became unusually paranoid,
and in letters and calls,
299
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he had expressed concerns
for his safety.
300
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-Because of
Lieutenant Hartley's position
301
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as a legal officer,
302
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he was in a disciplinary role,
and so there always was,
303
00:15:50,575 --> 00:15:54,788
"Could this be somebody
who he made so mad
304
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that they would come back
and try to kill him?"
305
00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:00,627
-Was there somebody
who didn't like him?
306
00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:03,004
Was there somebody
who had some grudge against him?
307
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Maybe somebody on the ship
was trying to kill him.
308
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309
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-NCIS investigators wonder
if someone on the USS Forrestal
310
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held a grudge
against Lieutenant Lee Hartley,
311
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a grudge that would lead them
to poison the naval officer.
312
00:16:31,866 --> 00:16:34,661
-He was a legal aid
aboard ship.
313
00:16:34,828 --> 00:16:38,081
Anybody got in trouble
aboard ship
314
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had to go through Lee.
315
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So that's what I was thinking.
316
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Somebody aboard ship was taking
it out on Lee and poisoned him.
317
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-Somebody could be
putting something in his coffee.
318
00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:51,428
Somebody could be putting
something in the coffee
319
00:16:51,511 --> 00:16:53,221
in the office that he worked in.
320
00:16:53,304 --> 00:16:55,932
Somebody could be putting
something in the food
321
00:16:56,016 --> 00:16:58,226
in the officer's mess.
322
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-Investigators ask
Lee's widow, Pamela,
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if he mentioned any threats
below deck on the high seas.
324
00:17:04,065 --> 00:17:06,901
-We became aware
that there were two incidents
325
00:17:06,985 --> 00:17:12,615
that were reported by Lee
that might be of interest to us.
326
00:17:12,657 --> 00:17:16,244
First, it was in a letter
that Lee had written home,
327
00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:20,331
where he claimed
that there was somebody
328
00:17:20,373 --> 00:17:26,296
who attacked him on board the
ship with a sword of some type,
329
00:17:26,338 --> 00:17:31,634
and that he had managed
to disarm the individual.
330
00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:36,097
He had reported another time
in a letter or a telephone call
331
00:17:36,181 --> 00:17:39,976
that somebody had painted
graffiti on a bulkhead,
332
00:17:40,018 --> 00:17:46,066
a wall on the ship that said,
"Hartley is a dead man."
333
00:17:46,232 --> 00:17:49,319
Now, that seemed
a little incredible,
334
00:17:49,486 --> 00:17:53,448
because if you're on board
a U.S. naval vessel
335
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and somebody
attacks you with a sword,
336
00:17:56,659 --> 00:17:58,453
there's a whole lot of people
in the world
337
00:17:58,495 --> 00:18:01,581
who are going to want
to know about that.
338
00:18:01,706 --> 00:18:03,625
Lee was
the disciplinary officer.
339
00:18:03,708 --> 00:18:06,795
I mean, my goodness,
who would not report
340
00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:10,215
being attacked
by somebody with a sword?
341
00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:12,300
Well, curiously enough,
342
00:18:12,384 --> 00:18:17,514
there was no report
made of this alleged attack.
343
00:18:17,681 --> 00:18:23,770
We could not imagine
why he would have said that.
344
00:18:23,937 --> 00:18:25,563
-Did Lee not report
the incidents
345
00:18:25,605 --> 00:18:28,358
because he feared for
his safety?
346
00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,610
As investigators contemplate
347
00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:32,821
Lee Hartley's
unsubstantiated claims,
348
00:18:32,862 --> 00:18:34,823
the USS Forrestal
arrives at the port
349
00:18:34,864 --> 00:18:37,033
after months away.
350
00:18:37,158 --> 00:18:41,204
-The Forrestal returns
to Mayport after its deployment.
351
00:18:41,246 --> 00:18:45,458
We execute a search
of his belongings on the ship
352
00:18:45,583 --> 00:18:47,085
and a search of the stateroom
353
00:18:47,168 --> 00:18:49,713
that he shared
with another officer,
354
00:18:49,754 --> 00:18:53,174
but none of that showed
that arsenic was resonant.
355
00:18:54,467 --> 00:18:56,302
We had to interview
various people
356
00:18:56,344 --> 00:18:58,388
that might have known him
on board the ship
357
00:18:58,430 --> 00:19:01,766
in order to determine
whether or not there was anybody
358
00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:06,813
that they knew of who might have
had an interest in harming Lee.
359
00:19:06,938 --> 00:19:09,482
We didn't come up with anybody
360
00:19:09,524 --> 00:19:12,318
who had any experience
like that.
361
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:15,071
-Lee Hartley was
very well respected,
362
00:19:15,113 --> 00:19:20,160
both in his job but also
as a friend, people he knew.
363
00:19:21,494 --> 00:19:26,166
-We did, however, at one point
come up with indications
364
00:19:26,207 --> 00:19:30,253
that Lee had represented
that he,
365
00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:33,089
understandably being a newlywed,
366
00:19:33,173 --> 00:19:37,969
wasn't looking forward to going
on this particular deployment.
367
00:19:38,053 --> 00:19:41,931
Whenever the ship pulled into
port, he would go up to the USO,
368
00:19:41,973 --> 00:19:45,560
where back then they had
a bank of pay telephones,
369
00:19:45,602 --> 00:19:50,190
and he would spend
an awful lot of time
370
00:19:50,231 --> 00:19:53,777
on the phone talking to his wife
at home.
371
00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:55,779
-He was lonely, sure,
372
00:19:55,820 --> 00:19:58,990
but it's not an uncommon feeling
for most of the crew
373
00:19:59,157 --> 00:20:01,409
on an aircraft carrier.
374
00:20:01,451 --> 00:20:03,286
-During the course
of the investigation,
375
00:20:03,370 --> 00:20:05,497
it became obvious that not only
376
00:20:05,580 --> 00:20:08,416
was Lee homesick
for being with his wife,
377
00:20:08,583 --> 00:20:10,418
but he was also
a little bit jealous.
378
00:20:10,502 --> 00:20:14,464
He had married a pretty woman
who was younger than him,
379
00:20:14,547 --> 00:20:17,092
and now he's at sea
for six months.
380
00:20:17,175 --> 00:20:22,472
And, you know, he was just
jealous that she was so pretty
381
00:20:22,514 --> 00:20:25,350
and he wasn't there.
382
00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:26,893
My thought at the time
383
00:20:26,935 --> 00:20:30,980
was he might have
been setting up a scenario
384
00:20:31,064 --> 00:20:37,612
whereby it was unsafe for him
to remain aboard the Forrestal
385
00:20:37,654 --> 00:20:40,782
because somebody was trying
to kill him
386
00:20:40,865 --> 00:20:41,991
or hurt him.
387
00:20:42,033 --> 00:20:43,827
By not reporting it,
388
00:20:43,952 --> 00:20:48,331
he doesn't have to suffer
the consequences of myself
389
00:20:48,373 --> 00:20:50,917
or the other agents finding out
that he was lying
390
00:20:51,001 --> 00:20:52,961
and filing a false report,
391
00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:55,380
or the Navy finding out that
he was filing a false report
392
00:20:55,463 --> 00:20:59,926
and taking disciplinary action
on him,
393
00:21:00,010 --> 00:21:03,930
but rather somebody at home
might report
394
00:21:03,972 --> 00:21:08,476
that, "Gee, Lee is
under threat on the ship."
395
00:21:08,518 --> 00:21:12,522
Clearly, he wanted to be
with his new wife.
396
00:21:12,564 --> 00:21:15,692
Maybe he was trying
to be relieved from the ship
397
00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:17,736
and sent home.
398
00:21:17,819 --> 00:21:20,280
-And possibly
the lovesick sailor was willing
399
00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:22,866
to take this ruse
a step further.
400
00:21:22,907 --> 00:21:28,329
-And then to follow
on that same line of logic,
401
00:21:28,413 --> 00:21:32,042
maybe Lee was taking arsenic
402
00:21:32,083 --> 00:21:37,088
so that he would be
ill enough to be sent home.
403
00:21:37,172 --> 00:21:40,175
-So was it maybe
not intending to die,
404
00:21:40,300 --> 00:21:42,802
but could he be making
himself sick?
405
00:21:42,844 --> 00:21:45,388
-Maybe he unwittingly took
enough
406
00:21:45,513 --> 00:21:48,600
of whatever the substance was
to make himself sick,
407
00:21:48,767 --> 00:21:53,813
without understanding that
it just builds up to the point
408
00:21:53,897 --> 00:21:56,983
that there's so much
in your body that you die.
409
00:21:57,025 --> 00:21:59,694
-So it could have been
an accidental poisoning.
410
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:13,875
♪♪
411
00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:17,295
-Investigators working
the arsenic poisoning
412
00:22:17,337 --> 00:22:19,255
of naval Lieutenant Lee Hartley
413
00:22:19,297 --> 00:22:22,300
develop a theory to help
explain the rare circumstances
414
00:22:22,384 --> 00:22:24,135
around his death.
415
00:22:24,260 --> 00:22:27,472
-Maybe Lee Hartley
was taking arsenic himself,
416
00:22:27,514 --> 00:22:32,727
setting the stage to be relieved
from the ship and sent home.
417
00:22:32,769 --> 00:22:35,397
-Desperate to return home
to his new wife,
418
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,732
Lee may have
accidentally ingested
419
00:22:37,816 --> 00:22:40,568
a fatal dose of arsenic.
420
00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:44,239
-But investigators
also ask themselves,
421
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,325
what if the fatal dose wasn't
an accident?
422
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:49,869
-Was it a suicide?
423
00:22:49,994 --> 00:22:53,957
Lieutenant Hartley
had expressed some homesickness.
424
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,669
Also, there was some jealousy
with his wife.
425
00:22:57,752 --> 00:23:00,505
-You collect anything
that might be of significance.
426
00:23:00,588 --> 00:23:03,174
And so one of the things
you certainly want to collect
427
00:23:03,299 --> 00:23:06,636
are any writings,
any notebooks, any diaries,
428
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,306
and any letters
that the person might have made.
429
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:13,435
-That's how they determine,
was he suicidal?
430
00:23:13,518 --> 00:23:16,229
Could this have been
intentional?
431
00:23:16,271 --> 00:23:18,481
-And we sent them
to a psychologist
432
00:23:18,565 --> 00:23:20,483
in order to have them examined
433
00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:24,237
and try to get some insight
into his state of mind.
434
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,992
The examination of those
by the psychological staff
435
00:23:29,034 --> 00:23:34,164
did not show any suicidal
thoughts on Lee's part.
436
00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:36,624
-With all their theories
leading to dead ends,
437
00:23:36,666 --> 00:23:39,461
investigators hope new data
from Lee's autopsy
438
00:23:39,544 --> 00:23:41,546
can provide answers.
439
00:23:41,629 --> 00:23:46,051
The results of his hair-sample
analysis have just reached NCIS.
440
00:23:46,134 --> 00:23:48,011
-Through the hair,
441
00:23:48,136 --> 00:23:51,222
you can actually tell when the
person was exposed to arsenic.
442
00:23:51,306 --> 00:23:53,558
So they were able to,
month by month,
443
00:23:53,683 --> 00:23:57,812
tell when he began
to be exposed to the arsenic
444
00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:01,399
and how it progressed
to the time of his death.
445
00:24:01,483 --> 00:24:04,319
So literally,
you can look at the hair
446
00:24:04,402 --> 00:24:06,905
and do a graph or a timeline
447
00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:10,658
of exactly when
he was being exposed to arsenic.
448
00:24:10,742 --> 00:24:14,704
-Lee's hair indicated
a level of arsenic
449
00:24:14,788 --> 00:24:18,875
in his body
peaked at various times.
450
00:24:18,958 --> 00:24:22,545
The spikes occurred
both before the cruise
451
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:24,506
and then, during the course
of the cruise,
452
00:24:24,589 --> 00:24:28,510
when the ship was
in a port visit.
453
00:24:28,551 --> 00:24:31,429
When the ship was
in Benidorm, Spain,
454
00:24:31,513 --> 00:24:33,139
there was a spike.
455
00:24:33,181 --> 00:24:35,475
When the ship was
in Naples, Italy,
456
00:24:35,558 --> 00:24:37,686
there was a spike.
457
00:24:37,769 --> 00:24:41,022
So we said, "What is
the common denominator here
458
00:24:41,106 --> 00:24:43,733
that would give us
these spikes?"
459
00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:46,820
-Investigators note
an unsettling common denominator
460
00:24:46,861 --> 00:24:50,115
associated with Lee's
arsenic spikes.
461
00:24:50,198 --> 00:24:53,410
-Lee's wife was sending packages
to him
462
00:24:53,451 --> 00:24:57,080
and visiting him when the ship
pulled into foreign ports,
463
00:24:57,163 --> 00:24:59,416
which was not uncommon.
464
00:24:59,499 --> 00:25:02,752
Navy wives,
and especially officers' wives,
465
00:25:02,836 --> 00:25:07,549
will travel in groups to the
port to visit their husbands.
466
00:25:07,632 --> 00:25:09,217
We thought, "Well, gee,
467
00:25:09,300 --> 00:25:12,929
he's getting packages
and Pam is visiting him."
468
00:25:13,013 --> 00:25:17,892
But at that time, we didn't
have her as a suspect in this.
469
00:25:17,976 --> 00:25:19,894
-I still hadn't
thought about Pam.
470
00:25:19,978 --> 00:25:21,730
They hadn't been married
that long.
471
00:25:21,855 --> 00:25:25,483
I couldn't figure, you know,
why would she want to hurt him?
472
00:25:25,567 --> 00:25:27,902
-Pamela was not
initially considered a suspect
473
00:25:28,028 --> 00:25:29,946
because Lee's poisoning began
474
00:25:29,988 --> 00:25:34,659
while thousands of miles
of ocean separated the couple.
475
00:25:34,743 --> 00:25:39,289
But further investigation
forces agents to reevaluate.
476
00:25:39,372 --> 00:25:42,292
-There were more
and more common denominators
477
00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:45,628
that were linking her
to the spikes in the levels
478
00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:47,881
of arsenic in his body.
479
00:25:47,964 --> 00:25:52,010
-Pamela Hartley became one
of the primary suspects,
480
00:25:52,052 --> 00:25:55,764
partially because you always
look at the significant other.
481
00:25:55,847 --> 00:25:59,684
Also, just hearing, you know,
how they became involved,
482
00:25:59,726 --> 00:26:03,855
the differences in age, the fact
that he had been out at sea.
483
00:26:03,938 --> 00:26:05,607
But also,
I think some of her actions
484
00:26:05,648 --> 00:26:09,486
after he died were
suspicious in some ways,
485
00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:13,156
because she pretty much just
cut off contact with his family
486
00:26:13,281 --> 00:26:15,116
and didn't want to talk
about it
487
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,328
and moved on a lot quicker
than you would think.
488
00:26:18,370 --> 00:26:20,205
-And paperwork shows
489
00:26:20,288 --> 00:26:22,999
that Pamela benefited
financially from Lee's death.
490
00:26:23,083 --> 00:26:26,336
-Pamela Hartley
received benefits as the wife
491
00:26:26,419 --> 00:26:31,091
of a service person
that she got monthly.
492
00:26:31,216 --> 00:26:37,138
She also had $35,000
through a life insurance policy.
493
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:40,892
-Investigators dig
into Pamela Hartley's past,
494
00:26:40,975 --> 00:26:44,729
and a job at an animal
laboratory catches their eye.
495
00:26:44,813 --> 00:26:47,107
-Pamela Hartley,
before joining the Navy,
496
00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:49,859
had been a wildlife officer,
497
00:26:49,943 --> 00:26:53,947
where they did investigations
into how arsenic
498
00:26:54,030 --> 00:26:56,700
and other substances
affected wildlife.
499
00:26:56,783 --> 00:26:59,869
So she did have
some scientific background.
500
00:26:59,953 --> 00:27:03,123
She possibly had
a little bit more knowledge
501
00:27:03,206 --> 00:27:05,875
than maybe your average Joe,
502
00:27:05,959 --> 00:27:10,088
but also arsenic at the time
wasn't that hard to get.
503
00:27:10,171 --> 00:27:14,718
You could get it through
rat poison, anything like that.
504
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,095
-For evidence
to tie her to Lee's poisoning,
505
00:27:17,178 --> 00:27:20,348
the NCIS team interviews friends
and neighbors of Pamela,
506
00:27:20,432 --> 00:27:22,475
both inside the Navy
and civilians,
507
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,270
to determine
if she's a viable suspect.
508
00:27:26,771 --> 00:27:30,400
-We learned
that after Lee died,
509
00:27:30,483 --> 00:27:35,739
Pamela became allegedly
romantically involved
510
00:27:35,822 --> 00:27:37,991
with one of the officers
511
00:27:38,033 --> 00:27:41,244
who was an acquaintance
of Lee Hartley.
512
00:27:41,369 --> 00:27:47,000
And this was not years later,
but weeks later,
513
00:27:47,083 --> 00:27:49,377
after Lee passed.
514
00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:51,254
During the course
of the investigation,
515
00:27:51,338 --> 00:27:54,382
we learned the wives
not only do they travel
516
00:27:54,466 --> 00:27:56,009
to the foreign ports,
517
00:27:56,092 --> 00:27:58,720
but they form the Officer's
Wives Club
518
00:27:58,803 --> 00:28:01,139
and have dinner and drinks
and things like that.
519
00:28:01,181 --> 00:28:03,850
And during the course of that,
520
00:28:03,892 --> 00:28:06,978
they on occasion
would joke about, "Hey,
521
00:28:07,062 --> 00:28:08,688
it's pretty nice
not having the guys home
522
00:28:08,730 --> 00:28:10,940
because we can do
whatever we want.
523
00:28:10,982 --> 00:28:13,401
We can stay in our pajamas
all day if we want to."
524
00:28:13,443 --> 00:28:16,696
And at one point,
Pamela allegedly said,
525
00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:18,782
"Well, you know,
maybe it would be nice
526
00:28:18,907 --> 00:28:20,367
if we just got a hit man
and got rid of them,"
527
00:28:20,450 --> 00:28:22,494
and everybody else laughed.
528
00:28:22,535 --> 00:28:25,997
And all of the people that were
present for that conversation
529
00:28:26,122 --> 00:28:29,000
when we asked said, "Oh, no,
we just took it as a joke.
530
00:28:29,042 --> 00:28:30,543
Everybody was goofing around,
531
00:28:30,585 --> 00:28:32,045
everybody had had
a couple of drinks
532
00:28:32,087 --> 00:28:34,881
and nobody thought
she was serious."
533
00:28:34,964 --> 00:28:37,217
-Further interviews help
investigators to determine
534
00:28:37,342 --> 00:28:41,096
if Pamela did the unthinkable
and poisoned her husband,
535
00:28:41,179 --> 00:28:43,598
causing a slow
and painful death.
536
00:28:43,682 --> 00:28:47,394
-Lee's roommate,
who shared his stateroom,
537
00:28:47,477 --> 00:28:49,979
also was sick on occasion,
538
00:28:50,063 --> 00:28:53,191
but not nearly as sick
as Lee was.
539
00:28:53,274 --> 00:28:56,653
Then we thought if he
was getting things in the mail
540
00:28:56,695 --> 00:29:00,115
that was making him sick
and tainted for some reason,
541
00:29:00,156 --> 00:29:02,992
and he was sharing these
with his roommate,
542
00:29:03,076 --> 00:29:05,995
that would explain
why the roommate got sick.
543
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:08,581
And at one point during one
of the import periods,
544
00:29:08,623 --> 00:29:11,251
Pamela cooked breakfast
for everybody.
545
00:29:11,292 --> 00:29:14,587
And after that again,
they get sick.
546
00:29:14,671 --> 00:29:16,339
And at this point,
547
00:29:16,423 --> 00:29:21,219
the only common denominator left
was Pamela.
548
00:29:22,429 --> 00:29:26,182
She was a suspect at this stage.
549
00:29:26,307 --> 00:29:30,603
We requested she takes
a polygraph examination.
550
00:29:30,687 --> 00:29:32,731
We're hoping at this stage
of the game
551
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:36,776
that her answers will indicate
deception or that she was lying.
552
00:29:36,860 --> 00:29:39,279
Then prompt her to confess.
553
00:29:48,413 --> 00:29:52,667
♪♪
554
00:29:54,002 --> 00:29:56,546
-Pamela Hartley has agreed
to take a polygraph test,
555
00:29:56,671 --> 00:29:59,466
and investigators hope
deceptive answers will lead her
556
00:29:59,549 --> 00:30:02,052
to confess to the
poisoning death of her husband,
557
00:30:02,135 --> 00:30:04,012
Lieutenant Lee Hartley.
558
00:30:04,095 --> 00:30:07,182
-Now, the polygraph initially
would have been administered
559
00:30:07,265 --> 00:30:12,896
by a licensed polygraph examiner
who was also an NCIS agent.
560
00:30:13,021 --> 00:30:17,025
-After analysis, investigators
received the results.
561
00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:19,819
-When she was asked
questions particularly related
562
00:30:19,903 --> 00:30:23,031
to the death of her husband,
563
00:30:23,156 --> 00:30:27,494
she, in her answers,
indicated no deception.
564
00:30:29,621 --> 00:30:31,414
-The results were
that she passed,
565
00:30:31,456 --> 00:30:34,959
that she was not involved
in his death.
566
00:30:36,169 --> 00:30:40,340
-If your primary suspect
passes the polygraph,
567
00:30:40,465 --> 00:30:43,051
that certainly creates
a roadblock
568
00:30:43,134 --> 00:30:48,556
and a bit of a problem for
the investigators going forward.
569
00:30:50,016 --> 00:30:53,228
There are no
more outstanding leads.
570
00:30:53,311 --> 00:30:55,730
There's no logical leads
to follow.
571
00:30:55,814 --> 00:30:59,025
-Wasn't anything else
they could do at that point.
572
00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:01,820
-I was subsequently
transferred away.
573
00:31:01,903 --> 00:31:06,074
We went about our careers
and the case sits.
574
00:31:06,157 --> 00:31:07,826
-They're called going cold,
575
00:31:07,867 --> 00:31:11,454
but basically they're put on
the back burner.
576
00:31:11,538 --> 00:31:13,873
-And I kept thinking about it,
577
00:31:13,957 --> 00:31:18,003
and my younger brother Art,
him and I went for a ride,
578
00:31:18,086 --> 00:31:21,756
and Art looked over at me and
said, "That bitch killed him."
579
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,633
I said,
"Why would she kill him?"
580
00:31:23,675 --> 00:31:25,176
And Art says, "I don't know."
581
00:31:25,218 --> 00:31:28,680
But he said,
"That bitch killed him."
582
00:31:28,763 --> 00:31:30,306
-It had to be her.
583
00:31:30,348 --> 00:31:32,350
But, you know,
you can't prove anything.
584
00:31:32,392 --> 00:31:37,188
You just have to wait on the law
to prove who did it.
585
00:31:39,941 --> 00:31:43,528
-13 years pass,
and the case remains untouched
586
00:31:43,570 --> 00:31:46,281
until a new directive begins
to make its way
587
00:31:46,364 --> 00:31:50,326
through law-enforcement agencies
across the country.
588
00:31:50,368 --> 00:31:54,289
-The NCIS gets interested
in cold cases,
589
00:31:54,372 --> 00:31:58,668
as does my office,
and somebody from NCIS suggests,
590
00:31:58,710 --> 00:32:00,503
"Hey, let's look at this one."
591
00:32:00,628 --> 00:32:03,506
Is this something that there is
a reasonably good chance
592
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:06,092
that we possibly can resolve?
593
00:32:06,217 --> 00:32:08,178
There was just so much evidence.
594
00:32:08,261 --> 00:32:11,431
It just seemed like a good case.
595
00:32:11,556 --> 00:32:13,516
Lieutenant Hartley deserved
better.
596
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,144
He died a very,
very painful death.
597
00:32:16,186 --> 00:32:20,482
And he really deserved
our trying to resolve it.
598
00:32:21,816 --> 00:32:24,861
The case involving
the investigation of the death
599
00:32:24,944 --> 00:32:30,533
of Lee Hartley was reopened
in September of 1995.
600
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:32,160
-My brother Wilbur called me.
601
00:32:32,243 --> 00:32:36,331
He said that they was opening
the case.
602
00:32:36,414 --> 00:32:39,959
I said, "Oh, man,
I hope they find out who did it,
603
00:32:40,043 --> 00:32:44,339
and I hope they pay dearly
for what they did."
604
00:32:45,548 --> 00:32:47,050
-The investigators,
605
00:32:47,133 --> 00:32:49,427
both from NCIS
and from my office,
606
00:32:49,511 --> 00:32:51,638
as well as from
the medical examiner,
607
00:32:51,763 --> 00:32:53,348
pretty much start from scratch.
608
00:32:53,431 --> 00:32:55,266
They go through everything.
609
00:32:55,350 --> 00:32:58,478
They also, at that point, start
looking at where are the people?
610
00:32:58,603 --> 00:33:00,105
So particularly in this case,
611
00:33:00,188 --> 00:33:02,232
where was Pamela Hartley
at that point?
612
00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:03,983
Where was she living?
613
00:33:04,025 --> 00:33:07,445
What had happened in her life
since that time?
614
00:33:07,487 --> 00:33:11,533
She had returned
to her hometown in Georgia.
615
00:33:11,616 --> 00:33:13,702
Once they determined
where she was,
616
00:33:13,785 --> 00:33:17,247
they began a surveillance
to determine what she's doing.
617
00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:20,000
Is she working?
Anything like that.
618
00:33:20,083 --> 00:33:24,295
Her life had not taken
necessarily the best turn.
619
00:33:24,421 --> 00:33:27,298
She had received some money
after her husband had died,
620
00:33:27,340 --> 00:33:28,925
but I believe she was
unemployed.
621
00:33:28,967 --> 00:33:30,927
I think she was living with
her mother.
622
00:33:31,052 --> 00:33:34,514
And it turned out she had had
some drug and alcohol problems,
623
00:33:34,556 --> 00:33:37,767
which that's something
that we look at in these cases
624
00:33:37,851 --> 00:33:39,728
because does that mean
625
00:33:39,811 --> 00:33:43,523
that somebody might now be
ready to confess to something?
626
00:33:43,648 --> 00:33:45,984
Or was that
why she had these problems?
627
00:33:46,067 --> 00:33:48,486
Because she was living with
the guilt.
628
00:33:48,528 --> 00:33:50,864
-Investigators keep
a close watch on Pamela
629
00:33:50,905 --> 00:33:53,324
and comb through
original evidence sealed away
630
00:33:53,450 --> 00:33:55,452
for over a decade.
631
00:33:55,535 --> 00:33:56,828
Pamela's polygraph test,
632
00:33:56,911 --> 00:33:58,788
the one in which
she showed no deception,
633
00:33:58,830 --> 00:34:01,207
is closely scrutinized.
634
00:34:01,249 --> 00:34:05,628
-The Technical Services
Division at headquarters
635
00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:08,506
re-examines
the polygraph results
636
00:34:08,631 --> 00:34:13,261
and determines that initial
determination was in error.
637
00:34:14,763 --> 00:34:18,433
And in fact,
it was inconclusive.
638
00:34:18,516 --> 00:34:22,937
She had not failed it,
but she had not passed it.
639
00:34:22,979 --> 00:34:24,856
-Once we determined
640
00:34:24,981 --> 00:34:26,900
that the original polygraph
might have been interpreted
641
00:34:27,025 --> 00:34:30,987
incorrectly, it was one factor.
642
00:34:31,029 --> 00:34:35,116
It wasn't everything,
but it did take away from that,
643
00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:36,993
"Wait a minute.
She passed a polygraph.
644
00:34:37,077 --> 00:34:39,871
So are we on the right track?"
645
00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:44,042
-So during the course
of the initial investigation,
646
00:34:44,125 --> 00:34:45,794
many, many people
were interviewed.
647
00:34:45,877 --> 00:34:47,837
People on the ship,
648
00:34:47,921 --> 00:34:51,257
people who knew Pam, people
who knew Lee, family members.
649
00:34:51,383 --> 00:34:53,134
And one of the family members
650
00:34:53,218 --> 00:34:55,970
that would have been interviewed
was Pamela's brother,
651
00:34:56,096 --> 00:34:59,766
and initially he did
not indicate anything unusual.
652
00:34:59,891 --> 00:35:01,726
When the cold-case people
go back
653
00:35:01,768 --> 00:35:04,771
and do the interviews
as they do,
654
00:35:04,813 --> 00:35:07,732
they reinterview Pamela's
brother
655
00:35:07,816 --> 00:35:11,236
and at this point,
his story changes.
656
00:35:12,529 --> 00:35:14,406
Now he says
657
00:35:14,489 --> 00:35:18,201
Pamela approached him
to be a hit man
658
00:35:18,243 --> 00:35:20,829
and kill her husband.
659
00:35:20,954 --> 00:35:24,874
-And he tells investigators
the whole sordid story.
660
00:35:24,958 --> 00:35:27,293
Pamela told him she was unhappy
661
00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:30,088
and wanted
Lieutenant Hartley dead.
662
00:35:30,130 --> 00:35:33,258
She offered Fred a share
of the life insurance money
663
00:35:33,383 --> 00:35:35,051
if he would do it.
664
00:35:35,135 --> 00:35:37,721
Pamela said they
were going to poison her husband
665
00:35:37,804 --> 00:35:39,389
while he was on the ship.
666
00:35:39,431 --> 00:35:41,850
Fred wanted no part in this.
667
00:35:41,933 --> 00:35:43,643
He refused to help.
668
00:35:43,685 --> 00:35:45,603
-Fred tells investigators
he's worried
669
00:35:45,729 --> 00:35:49,274
that his sister may place blame
for Lee's poisoning on him
670
00:35:49,357 --> 00:35:51,359
now that the case has been
reopened.
671
00:35:51,484 --> 00:35:53,737
But instead of taking
the fall for any involvement
672
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,447
in the murder,
673
00:35:55,530 --> 00:35:58,658
Fred makes a proposition
to save his own skin.
674
00:35:58,742 --> 00:36:00,326
-And he indicates to them
675
00:36:00,410 --> 00:36:02,871
that he's also willing
to testify to this
676
00:36:02,912 --> 00:36:05,081
against his sister.
677
00:36:05,165 --> 00:36:07,167
The NCIS agents realized
678
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:10,295
that they have a good witness
now in Pamela's brother.
679
00:36:10,378 --> 00:36:13,298
-Investigators plan to use
Pamela's brother's admission
680
00:36:13,423 --> 00:36:17,969
against her for leverage to see
if her story will change.
681
00:36:18,053 --> 00:36:20,513
-They know
that this has been a case
682
00:36:20,597 --> 00:36:24,184
that was unsolved technically
for years,
683
00:36:24,267 --> 00:36:28,396
and they are not going to have
a million chances
684
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,148
to close this case.
685
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:33,026
They're probably going to have
one chance.
686
00:36:34,361 --> 00:36:35,737
Pamela has already
been interrogated
687
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:37,405
earlier in the case.
688
00:36:37,530 --> 00:36:38,865
She's already taken
a polygraph earlier in the case.
689
00:36:38,990 --> 00:36:40,658
She's gone on with her life,
690
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,788
and they're going to approach
her now
691
00:36:44,871 --> 00:36:46,873
and try to talk to her again.
692
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,919
-Investigators have one goal --
693
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,421
to induce a murder confession
from Pamela,
694
00:36:53,546 --> 00:36:55,256
as it may be their only path
toward getting
695
00:36:55,382 --> 00:36:58,843
a conviction and justice
for Lieutenant Lee Hartley.
696
00:36:58,968 --> 00:37:01,888
They sit down with Pamela
at her mother's home in Georgia,
697
00:37:01,930 --> 00:37:06,685
and what she tells investigators
is the last thing they expected.
698
00:37:06,768 --> 00:37:14,025
-During her interrogation, she
confesses to the killing of Lee.
699
00:37:22,575 --> 00:37:26,788
♪♪
700
00:37:27,956 --> 00:37:30,959
-Pamela Hartley has just stunned
investigators
701
00:37:31,001 --> 00:37:32,961
and confessed
to poisoning her husband,
702
00:37:33,086 --> 00:37:36,464
Lieutenant Lee Hartley,
with arsenic.
703
00:37:36,589 --> 00:37:40,093
-Pamela Hartley,
according to her statement,
704
00:37:40,135 --> 00:37:43,513
bought rat poison
at a feed store
705
00:37:43,555 --> 00:37:47,475
where you could buy feed
for animals but also poisons.
706
00:37:47,559 --> 00:37:51,229
So she bought this rat poison,
which did contain arsenic.
707
00:37:51,271 --> 00:37:56,401
And then she would administer
spoonfuls in the baked goods
708
00:37:56,526 --> 00:37:58,069
that she sent him.
709
00:37:58,153 --> 00:38:00,447
Then once he got home,
in his meals.
710
00:38:00,488 --> 00:38:02,657
-Even when he was
in the hospital,
711
00:38:02,741 --> 00:38:07,120
Pamela would go and visit him
and mix some of the poison
712
00:38:07,162 --> 00:38:11,124
into the juice
that she was helping him drink.
713
00:38:11,207 --> 00:38:14,836
-At that point, it became
obvious he was going to die.
714
00:38:14,878 --> 00:38:17,380
She realized she had
some evidence there,
715
00:38:17,505 --> 00:38:22,510
so she emptied it
and put it in a nearby lake.
716
00:38:22,635 --> 00:38:26,556
Later, NCIS sent
investigators or divers.
717
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,351
They were never able to find it.
718
00:38:31,061 --> 00:38:32,687
-It's my understanding
that at one point,
719
00:38:32,771 --> 00:38:35,065
she also said
that the reason she did it
720
00:38:35,106 --> 00:38:37,442
is that she didn't want to be
married to Lee anymore.
721
00:38:37,525 --> 00:38:40,487
Even though their marriage was
of such short duration.
722
00:38:40,612 --> 00:38:42,947
-He was talking
about leaving the military
723
00:38:42,989 --> 00:38:44,657
and she didn't want that.
724
00:38:44,741 --> 00:38:48,203
She enjoyed being the wife
of a naval officer,
725
00:38:48,328 --> 00:38:52,457
having the prestige,
the benefits of that.
726
00:38:52,624 --> 00:38:57,587
-And so, rather than hurt
his feelings and divorce him,
727
00:38:57,671 --> 00:39:01,716
she decided to simply kill him.
728
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,552
-She experienced divorce
in her own family.
729
00:39:04,636 --> 00:39:06,930
She knows how painful it is.
730
00:39:07,013 --> 00:39:12,227
And so somehow she was sparing
him by killing him with arsenic.
731
00:39:12,352 --> 00:39:14,145
Just the fact
732
00:39:14,229 --> 00:39:17,273
that she was witnessing
what he was going through daily
733
00:39:17,357 --> 00:39:21,194
for her to say, "Hey, I don't
know what death feels like,
734
00:39:21,361 --> 00:39:23,196
but I know divorce isn't fun,"
735
00:39:23,321 --> 00:39:25,907
is just one of the
most bizarre confessions
736
00:39:26,032 --> 00:39:29,244
I've had in my entire career
as a prosecutor.
737
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:33,206
-She killed a good man.
738
00:39:33,289 --> 00:39:35,959
It just didn't make sense.
739
00:39:36,042 --> 00:39:40,880
-You never think that someone
that he loved would hurt him.
740
00:39:40,964 --> 00:39:43,425
You know?
741
00:39:43,591 --> 00:39:45,844
But when we found out
that it was her,
742
00:39:45,885 --> 00:39:48,888
Mom was just devastated.
743
00:39:48,972 --> 00:39:54,269
-On March 2, 1996,
14 years after Lee's death,
744
00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:56,396
Pamela Hartley was arrested
745
00:39:56,479 --> 00:40:00,233
and charged
with first-degree murder.
746
00:40:00,275 --> 00:40:02,444
-Unfortunately,
in this particular case,
747
00:40:02,527 --> 00:40:04,654
we had evidentiary problems.
748
00:40:04,779 --> 00:40:08,616
In order to go in front of
a jury and prove this case
749
00:40:08,658 --> 00:40:10,994
and introduce the evidence
of the hair
750
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:14,456
and the arsenic,
which laid out the whole case,
751
00:40:14,497 --> 00:40:17,042
the public defender
who represented her
752
00:40:17,167 --> 00:40:19,669
would have had to have an
opportunity to have it examined,
753
00:40:19,753 --> 00:40:22,172
have his own expert examine it.
754
00:40:22,255 --> 00:40:28,470
Because the hair was used up
in the initial testing,
755
00:40:28,553 --> 00:40:29,846
it didn't exist.
756
00:40:29,929 --> 00:40:31,848
And so therefore, the only way
757
00:40:32,015 --> 00:40:34,392
to have brought that evidence
in front of a jury
758
00:40:34,434 --> 00:40:37,645
would have been Lee Hartley
would have had to be exhumed.
759
00:40:37,729 --> 00:40:41,232
The family was adamant
that they did not want that,
760
00:40:41,358 --> 00:40:43,193
and that's understandable.
761
00:40:43,234 --> 00:40:45,695
And their thing was,
well, they're getting closure,
762
00:40:45,779 --> 00:40:48,323
which is very, very important.
763
00:40:50,617 --> 00:40:53,453
-On October 16, 1996,
764
00:40:53,495 --> 00:40:56,790
Pamela pleaded guilty
to second-degree murder
765
00:40:56,873 --> 00:40:58,583
in a Florida state court,
766
00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:02,671
and she was sentenced
to 40 years in prison.
767
00:41:02,796 --> 00:41:06,049
Since the crime occurred back
in 1982,
768
00:41:06,091 --> 00:41:10,345
Pamela was subject to the rules
of sentencing and parole
769
00:41:10,428 --> 00:41:15,183
based on the laws at the time
the crime occurred.
770
00:41:15,266 --> 00:41:19,562
-And she ended up spending
14 years
771
00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:21,856
and her mother got sick
772
00:41:21,898 --> 00:41:25,610
and they let her out
for humanitarian reasons
773
00:41:25,694 --> 00:41:30,115
to go so she could help
her mother while she was bad.
774
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:32,075
I mean, he didn't go easy.
775
00:41:32,117 --> 00:41:37,622
Lee went out hard, and
she had to be so hard-hearted
776
00:41:37,664 --> 00:41:40,375
to do something like that.
777
00:41:40,458 --> 00:41:45,839
Watch him and give him
last dose in the hospital.
778
00:41:45,922 --> 00:41:47,757
It just...
779
00:41:47,841 --> 00:41:49,676
It made no sense to me.
780
00:41:49,759 --> 00:41:52,762
-The sad thing is,
781
00:41:52,887 --> 00:41:57,767
is that both lives and the lives
of their family get destroyed,
782
00:41:57,809 --> 00:42:01,187
and all she would have had to do
is simply walk away.
783
00:42:02,647 --> 00:42:04,065
Just walk away.
784
00:42:06,985 --> 00:42:10,739
-And there was no reason
even for Lee to even be dead.
785
00:42:12,532 --> 00:42:14,743
Whenever people kill
somebody else,
786
00:42:14,909 --> 00:42:18,329
it's not just the person
you're killing,
787
00:42:18,371 --> 00:42:20,331
it's the whole family.
788
00:42:20,373 --> 00:42:23,084
It does leave a big void
789
00:42:23,126 --> 00:42:25,337
because you just
don't ever get over that.
790
00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:28,423
Because you always
think about that.
791
00:42:28,506 --> 00:42:31,968
I think that people
would love him if they knew him,
792
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:34,137
talked to him.
793
00:42:34,220 --> 00:42:39,976
What a kind, gentle, loving
brother he was.
794
00:42:40,018 --> 00:42:41,728
And we miss him.
63681
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