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-The wife
of a prominent businessman
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is found deceased
in her hotel room.
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-She didn't have bullet wounds
or stab wounds.
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There was no obvious method
of death.
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-We didn't find anything
that would indicate foul play.
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-However, there was evidence
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of cocaine in her system.
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-When we found out
that she had died that night,
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it left a huge emptiness
with all of us.
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[ Sniffles, sighs ]
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-What seems like
an accident gets a second look
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when investigators uncover
a troubling pattern.
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-We found out
that several other people
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that he's been with
died in unusual circumstances.
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-These deaths were ruled
as accidental and undetermined.
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-That's a red flag.
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-A possible survivor surfaces
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that leads police
to something more sinister.
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-I have never felt
such evilness in my life.
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[ Voice breaking ]
I felt so responsible.
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-You gotta wonder,
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were we actually dealing
with a serial killer?
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-Just after 10:00 a.m.,
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Detroit emergency services
receive a call from security
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at an upscale Detroit hotel.
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A man's wife has been found
deceased in a guest room.
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Soon after, officers arrive
to secure the scene.
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-When I arrive at the scene,
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I noticed a guy down the hall
sitting there.
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One of the officers told me,
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"That's the guy
that his wife died."
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-The man is Ed Amos,
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the person who alerted
hotel security to call police.
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-We learned
that the deceased's name
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was Roberta Amos --
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everybody called her "Bobbe" --
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and she was Ed Amos's wife.
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-Detectives enter the room,
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where Bobbe's body
is lying on the bed.
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-When I went into the room,
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there were indications
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that people
had been partying there --
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empty drink glasses, cigarettes,
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those types of things.
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-She didn't have bullet wounds
or stab wounds
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or blunt force trauma --
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anything like that
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that would suggest
any obvious method of death.
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-The bottom sheet had
a huge damp area on the sheet.
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-It was soaked.
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It appeared like there was
a lot of water
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that had somehow gotten
under her body
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with no real explanation to it.
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-It could be bodily fluid.
We didn't know at that time.
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-With little to go on,
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investigators speak to Ed Amos,
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who appears to be in shock
over the death of his wife.
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-He seemed kind of cold.
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Not a tear -- nothing.
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But that can be normal
in these circumstances.
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Ed Amos told me that
he didn't know what happened.
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-He says
that when he went to sleep,
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Bobbe was still up.
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-But when he woke up
a little before 10:00 a.m.,
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Bobbe was deceased,
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and that's when he then called
the front desk for help
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and security notified
the police.
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-Ed reported
that they were from Indiana,
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specifically the Anderson area,
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but they were in Detroit
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for a Christmas party
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for his new financial company.
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-That business was run
out of the Detroit area.
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He said that's why
the Christmas party
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was held in Detroit that night,
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and the company
had reserved several rooms.
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-Ed Amos tells police
that he and Bobbe
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partied with employees
until around 4:00 a.m.,
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when they went back
to their room alone.
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-Ed made the admission
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Bobbe had brought cocaine
to Detroit from Indiana
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and that they had been doing
cocaine in the room.
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-Ed admitted
that he had done some cleanup.
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He didn't want to have
any cocaine there
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when the police got there.
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But Ed -- other than
having done cocaine with her,
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he claimed he hadn't anything
to do with her death.
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-After speaking with Ed Amos,
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investigators do not find
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any evidence of drugs
in the hotel room,
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but they do observe an item
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that may provide
a second account
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of what happened to Bobbe
that night.
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-There was a camera
sitting on the bedside table.
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The minute I saw the camera,
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I said we got to get that film
that was in it developed
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to see if there was any evidence
to be had.
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At that time,
we were looking at it
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as a possible
accidental overdose.
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-As police finish up
at the crime scene,
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the family of Bobbe Amos
learns of her tragic death.
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-We got the call
that there was an emergency
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and we needed to go
to my mom's house.
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And so we went
to my mom's house,
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and she was crying.
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And that's when we found out
that she had died that night.
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And just hearing that,
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all your emotions --
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"What if? What if? What if?
Why? Why? Why?"
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And it left a huge emptiness
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with all of us.
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I didn't think I would do this.
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[ Sniffles, sighs ]
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-Bobbe grew up
in Anderson, Indiana,
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just a 4-hour drive
from Detroit,
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in a loving,
middle-class family.
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-I was the oldest,
and then Bobbe came.
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We were 13 months apart.
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And then my brother came
14 months after Bobbe.
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Bobbe and I --
we were just best of friends.
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We danced when we were little,
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and we would just Twist
our waist off.
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As Bobbe grew up,
she was beautiful.
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She had dark, curly hair
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and just a smile.
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She was kind and just
a fun person to be around.
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She was the life of the party.
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-After an idyllic childhood,
Bobbe graduates high school,
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skips collegiate life,
and goes to work.
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-Back then,
everybody worked for GM,
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and Bobbe --
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she started working
at General Motors,
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and that's how she met Ed.
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-Ed was also from Anderson,
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and he came from a family
that was relatively well-to-do.
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-Everybody knew Ed.
Everyone knew the family.
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Ed was an executive
in General Motors.
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He treated everybody well,
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never allowed anyone
to pay for anything.
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-He wanted people
to know he had money.
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Ed drove a Cadillac.
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He had a Rolex and was
always dressed to the nines.
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He liked to live that lifestyle.
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-Ed was very charismatic,
and he was so gregarious.
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Bobbe loved that.
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She loved playing golf
and going to eat
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and, you know,
going to the parties.
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Bobbe fell in love.
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He swept her off her feet,
literally.
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-In early 1993,
after two years of dating,
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Bobbe surprises her family
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with news that she and Ed
are getting married.
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-We were all apprehensive.
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We, of course, welcomed him
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and were, you know,
warm and kind.
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But he had a reputation
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at General Motors.
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He dated a lot of women.
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We knew that he had a past.
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-Ed had previously been married
two times
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prior to Bobbe's marriage
to him.
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-But I had to be happy for her
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because she was just exuberant.
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And you felt the joy.
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-She didn't have to work
anymore.
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They went on a lot
of vacations together.
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Money was never an issue
for them.
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She lived a high life.
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-Sadly,
less than two years later,
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Bobbe's joy is cut short
by her tragic death.
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-That night,
we found out she was gone.
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Ed had come back from Michigan.
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He was upset, distraught.
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We didn't know
how she had died that night,
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and we needed to know
what happened that night.
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-The next morning, Bobbe Amos's
body is brought in for autopsy.
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-The autopsy didn't find
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any defensive wounds
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or indicators
that she had been smothered.
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There were no injection sites
found.
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They didn't find anything
that would indicate foul play.
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-The autopsy showed that,
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although Ed said
that Bobbe was doing cocaine,
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she had no cocaine presence
at all in her nasal passages.
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-However, the medical examiner
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does discover
something surprising
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that backs up Ed's story.
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-There was evidence
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of cocaine residue
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in her vaginal cavity.
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That's not expected,
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but the method
of ingesting cocaine can vary
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depending on the person.
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-She had fluid in her lungs,
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which is sometimes indicative
of an overdose.
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-The manner of death
was ruled as undetermined,
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but it was reasonable to suggest
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that this may have been
just an overdose accidentally.
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There were going to be
additional testing,
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specifically toxicology reports,
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that would take weeks.
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-Detectives reach out
to Bobbe's family
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to provide an update
on their investigation.
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-After the autopsy,
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we talked with Bobbe's family,
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and nobody understood
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how this type of thing
could happen.
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-[ Sighs ]
You had to know my sister.
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She enjoyed the party scene,
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but Bobbe didn't do drugs.
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How would they have gotten
into her system?
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Because she would not have done
them willingly.
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-That information made us start
looking a little bit harder
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at what the real truth was
in all this.
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-Did she do cocaine or not?
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Is this an accidental overdose,
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or somebody drugged this woman?
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-We found out
Ed was not gonna derive
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any life-insurance proceeds
from Bobbe.
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There is a financial angle
to this.
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-He's looking
at a huge financial hit.
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-Bobbe had found out
that his business trips
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were really not
just business trips.
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-That caused her
to be suspicious.
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-I told her,
"You need to be very afraid.
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I think you're in danger."
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-In early December 1994,
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police continue to investigate
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the mysterious death
of Bobbe Amos,
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found deceased in a hotel room
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after her husband's
company Christmas party.
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-A day or two
after Bobbe's death,
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we were looking at it as,
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you know, a possible
accidental overdose
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pending the results
of toxicology reports.
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But because Bobbe's family
told us
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that she didn't use drugs,
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we started delving into it
a little bit more.
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-Detectives begin by questioning
any possible witnesses
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from the night of the party.
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-The investigation
was able to interview
263
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Ed's employees
264
00:12:35,755 --> 00:12:38,299
and other people
265
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who attended
the Christmas party.
266
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-When asked about
drug use at the party,
267
00:12:44,389 --> 00:12:47,517
they didn't admit
to any cocaine being used
268
00:12:47,517 --> 00:12:49,436
in their knowledge.
269
00:12:49,436 --> 00:12:51,312
People had related to us
270
00:12:51,312 --> 00:12:54,399
that a bunch of them
were partying for a while
271
00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,235
and that Ed and his wife, Bobbe,
272
00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,070
had gone back to their room
273
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at about 4:00 in the morning.
274
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-That would be consistent
with Ed's story.
275
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Also, there was no suggestion
276
00:13:08,913 --> 00:13:12,125
Bobbe and Ed
weren't getting along.
277
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-Basically,
nobody knew anything,
278
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and some people --
279
00:13:15,837 --> 00:13:18,590
they didn't want anything
to do with this.
280
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I think part of their reluctance
281
00:13:21,468 --> 00:13:23,386
was they didn't want
to be accused
282
00:13:23,386 --> 00:13:26,639
of being involved in --
in narcotics.
283
00:13:26,639 --> 00:13:28,558
♪♪
284
00:13:28,558 --> 00:13:32,520
-Among them
was one of Ed's employees,
285
00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,649
a fellow by the name
of Daniel Porcasi.
286
00:13:36,649 --> 00:13:40,445
-Porcasi said he didn't know
anything about Bobbe,
287
00:13:40,445 --> 00:13:43,531
but he was
a little bit skittish.
288
00:13:43,531 --> 00:13:47,410
I got the opinion that
maybe he was hiding something
289
00:13:47,410 --> 00:13:48,828
about Bobbe's death.
290
00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:50,121
♪♪
291
00:13:50,121 --> 00:13:52,165
-With no witnesses
from the party
292
00:13:52,165 --> 00:13:54,000
providing any new information,
293
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,003
detectives turned to the camera
found on the bedside table
294
00:13:57,003 --> 00:13:58,838
next to Bobbe's body,
295
00:13:58,838 --> 00:14:02,133
hoping it may contain
evidence of her final hours.
296
00:14:02,133 --> 00:14:05,095
-We had our film lab process
the film that was in it,
297
00:14:05,095 --> 00:14:08,014
and all it was
was pictures of the people
298
00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:10,100
at the Christmas party.
299
00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,644
The one picture,
there was a single guy.
300
00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:17,941
He was by himself,
but nobody knew who the guy was.
301
00:14:17,941 --> 00:14:19,359
♪♪
302
00:14:19,359 --> 00:14:21,152
-Investigators find it unusual
303
00:14:21,152 --> 00:14:24,489
that no one claimed to know
this lone individual
304
00:14:24,489 --> 00:14:26,700
that was at their private party.
305
00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:30,328
-I was sitting at my desk, and
I had the pictures spread out,
306
00:14:30,328 --> 00:14:34,499
and one of my partners
happened to walk by my desk,
307
00:14:34,499 --> 00:14:38,920
and he took the picture to show
to some other detectives.
308
00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:40,755
And an hour later,
he came back with a picture.
309
00:14:40,755 --> 00:14:43,383
He says, "The guy's name's
on the back of the picture."
310
00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:44,968
♪♪
311
00:14:44,968 --> 00:14:46,511
Darrell Robertson.
312
00:14:46,511 --> 00:14:48,179
♪♪
313
00:14:48,179 --> 00:14:51,266
-This guy at the party
that they can't identify --
314
00:14:51,266 --> 00:14:54,436
he turned out
to be a well-known drug dealer.
315
00:14:54,436 --> 00:14:57,022
-I found
he had been just picked up
316
00:14:57,022 --> 00:14:58,690
for distribution of cocaine
317
00:14:58,690 --> 00:15:02,068
and was actually in custody,
318
00:15:02,068 --> 00:15:04,029
so I had him brought
to headquarters,
319
00:15:04,029 --> 00:15:06,531
where I could interview him.
320
00:15:06,531 --> 00:15:08,241
When I first sat down
and told him
321
00:15:08,241 --> 00:15:09,909
what I wanted
to talk to him about,
322
00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:12,162
he said he didn't have
anything to say.
323
00:15:12,162 --> 00:15:15,081
And I said,
"Well, if you're the person
324
00:15:15,081 --> 00:15:17,083
that supplied the cocaine
325
00:15:17,083 --> 00:15:19,085
that might have caused death,
326
00:15:19,085 --> 00:15:21,087
as far as this case goes,
327
00:15:21,087 --> 00:15:22,589
you can be a defendant,
328
00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:25,091
or you can be a witness."
329
00:15:25,091 --> 00:15:26,509
♪♪
330
00:15:26,509 --> 00:15:29,512
-He was concerned
he was gonna get jacked up
331
00:15:29,512 --> 00:15:32,182
on homicide charges,
332
00:15:32,182 --> 00:15:36,770
so he decided
that it was prudent to talk.
333
00:15:36,770 --> 00:15:38,438
♪♪
334
00:15:38,438 --> 00:15:39,981
-And that's when he admits
335
00:15:39,981 --> 00:15:42,942
that he was at the party
to sell cocaine.
336
00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:44,611
♪♪
337
00:15:44,611 --> 00:15:48,114
-He indicated
that he had sold Ed Amos
338
00:15:48,114 --> 00:15:49,949
a half an ounce of cocaine
339
00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:53,286
and Ed had paid him $200 cash.
340
00:15:53,286 --> 00:15:54,829
♪♪
341
00:15:54,829 --> 00:15:57,665
The importance
of identifying Darrell Robertson
342
00:15:57,665 --> 00:16:00,627
and the fact that he delivered
the cocaine to Ed Amos
343
00:16:00,627 --> 00:16:02,170
on the day of the party,
344
00:16:02,170 --> 00:16:07,342
as Ed had said that Bobbe
had procured the cocaine
345
00:16:07,342 --> 00:16:09,427
and brought it with her
from Indiana.
346
00:16:09,427 --> 00:16:10,970
♪♪
347
00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:14,265
And then, before we figure out
the next move,
348
00:16:14,265 --> 00:16:15,684
we started getting phone calls
349
00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:18,228
about the death of Bobbe.
350
00:16:18,228 --> 00:16:19,688
♪♪
351
00:16:19,688 --> 00:16:21,856
-When word gets back
to Anderson
352
00:16:21,856 --> 00:16:26,403
that Bobbe Amos has died
mysteriously in Detroit,
353
00:16:26,403 --> 00:16:30,865
a lot of people started
discussing Ed Amos and his past.
354
00:16:30,865 --> 00:16:33,618
-We received several calls
from people
355
00:16:33,618 --> 00:16:36,579
indicating that you should
really look into her husband,
356
00:16:36,579 --> 00:16:37,956
Ed Amos,
357
00:16:37,956 --> 00:16:39,624
'cause this is his third wife
358
00:16:39,624 --> 00:16:42,502
that's died
under unusual circumstances.
359
00:16:42,502 --> 00:16:45,005
♪♪
360
00:16:45,005 --> 00:16:49,843
♪♪
361
00:16:52,846 --> 00:16:58,476
♪♪
362
00:16:58,476 --> 00:17:01,187
-Within a few weeks
of the death of Bobbe Amos,
363
00:17:01,187 --> 00:17:03,314
as they await
toxicology results,
364
00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:05,358
Detroit police receive
information
365
00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:09,070
that could be crucial
to the case.
366
00:17:09,070 --> 00:17:10,405
-We started getting phone calls
367
00:17:10,405 --> 00:17:12,699
from Anderson, Indiana,
368
00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:15,660
that Ed's two prior wives died
369
00:17:15,660 --> 00:17:17,954
under unusual circumstances.
370
00:17:17,954 --> 00:17:20,206
So I called
Anderson Police Department,
371
00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:22,584
and they connected me with Mike.
372
00:17:23,793 --> 00:17:28,048
-My first contact with Pat
was by phone.
373
00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:29,966
We were able to confirm
374
00:17:29,966 --> 00:17:34,512
that both his first two wives
had died.
375
00:17:34,512 --> 00:17:38,683
-So, a little over three weeks
after Bobbe's death,
376
00:17:38,683 --> 00:17:40,518
I went down to Indiana
377
00:17:40,518 --> 00:17:43,730
and we started delving
into it a little bit more.
378
00:17:43,730 --> 00:17:45,023
♪♪
379
00:17:45,023 --> 00:17:47,108
-Police learn that in 1965,
380
00:17:47,108 --> 00:17:50,320
22-year-old Ed Amos married
his first wife,
381
00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,072
23-year-old Saundra Heard,
382
00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:54,074
in Anderson, Indiana.
383
00:17:54,074 --> 00:17:56,618
-At the time of Saundra's death,
384
00:17:56,618 --> 00:17:58,370
I was a detective
385
00:17:58,370 --> 00:18:00,080
in the Anderson
Police Department
386
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,915
for probably two months.
387
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,751
Ed just started
at General Motors,
388
00:18:04,751 --> 00:18:07,128
and Saundra was a schoolteacher.
389
00:18:07,128 --> 00:18:08,630
Ed and Saundra --
390
00:18:08,630 --> 00:18:11,257
they'd been married for 15 years
when she died.
391
00:18:11,257 --> 00:18:12,926
♪♪
392
00:18:12,926 --> 00:18:16,513
-On the night
of January 24, 1979,
393
00:18:16,513 --> 00:18:19,849
Anderson police receive
an emergency call from Ed Amos.
394
00:18:19,849 --> 00:18:22,143
He tells them
that he found his wife deceased
395
00:18:22,143 --> 00:18:24,354
on the floor of their bathroom.
396
00:18:24,354 --> 00:18:26,898
-When the police officers
arrived with the EMTs,
397
00:18:26,898 --> 00:18:28,608
they confirmed
that she was dead.
398
00:18:28,608 --> 00:18:30,527
♪♪
399
00:18:30,527 --> 00:18:32,904
They didn't see any signs
of a struggle,
400
00:18:32,904 --> 00:18:34,948
but she's got a head wound.
401
00:18:34,948 --> 00:18:36,616
Ed tells the authorities
402
00:18:36,616 --> 00:18:39,953
that she fell and hit her head.
403
00:18:39,953 --> 00:18:41,371
-Ed's basic statement
404
00:18:41,371 --> 00:18:43,998
was that his wife
had been out drinking
405
00:18:43,998 --> 00:18:47,377
and then, when she came home,
she had wine with Ed.
406
00:18:47,377 --> 00:18:51,172
She went upstairs
to get ready for bed,
407
00:18:51,172 --> 00:18:55,135
and, a little while later,
he hears a "thunk."
408
00:18:55,135 --> 00:18:58,013
And he says he thought it was
the dog jumping off the bed,
409
00:18:58,013 --> 00:18:59,764
so he didn't go up immediately,
410
00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:01,641
but when he did go up,
he found her unresponsive.
411
00:19:01,641 --> 00:19:03,476
♪♪
412
00:19:03,476 --> 00:19:05,103
-There was an autopsy conducted,
413
00:19:05,103 --> 00:19:07,313
and the toxicology report
indicated
414
00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:09,107
that there was, in fact,
415
00:19:09,107 --> 00:19:13,236
alcohol in her bloodstream.
416
00:19:13,236 --> 00:19:16,531
That would be consistent
with Ed's claim
417
00:19:16,531 --> 00:19:19,200
that Saundra had been drinking.
418
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,037
At the time of Saundra's death,
419
00:19:22,037 --> 00:19:26,166
there was no reason
for the police to suspect
420
00:19:26,166 --> 00:19:29,002
any foul play,
given the evidence,
421
00:19:29,002 --> 00:19:32,339
so the cause of death was ruled
422
00:19:32,339 --> 00:19:34,507
as accidental.
423
00:19:34,507 --> 00:19:36,134
♪♪
424
00:19:36,134 --> 00:19:39,512
-In 1980, just over a year
after Saundra's death,
425
00:19:39,512 --> 00:19:43,099
Ed marries his second wife,
Carolyn Traylor,
426
00:19:43,099 --> 00:19:46,770
-There was the suspicion
that he was dating Carolyn
427
00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:49,647
while he was still married
to Saundra.
428
00:19:49,647 --> 00:19:51,524
-They met through
General Motors.
429
00:19:51,524 --> 00:19:54,235
They got together
and moved to Henry County,
430
00:19:54,235 --> 00:19:57,072
not too far away.
431
00:19:57,072 --> 00:19:58,656
-The marriage lasts nine years,
432
00:19:58,656 --> 00:20:01,743
until the night
of April 6, 1989,
433
00:20:01,743 --> 00:20:03,536
when the Henry County
Sheriff's Office
434
00:20:03,536 --> 00:20:06,873
receives another call
from Ed Amos.
435
00:20:06,873 --> 00:20:09,876
-When Henry County Sheriff's
Department responded,
436
00:20:09,876 --> 00:20:12,879
they found Carolyn on the floor.
437
00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:14,422
♪♪
438
00:20:14,422 --> 00:20:17,509
Ed had told the police
on this particular night
439
00:20:17,509 --> 00:20:20,345
he and Carolyn had gone out.
440
00:20:20,345 --> 00:20:23,056
They came back to the house.
441
00:20:23,056 --> 00:20:25,642
Carolyn was still having wine,
442
00:20:25,642 --> 00:20:28,728
and she retired
to get ready for bed.
443
00:20:28,728 --> 00:20:31,564
-Ed told the responding officers
444
00:20:31,564 --> 00:20:34,275
that she went upstairs
to get ready for bed,
445
00:20:34,275 --> 00:20:39,447
and he said, "I heard
a thunk on the floor up there.
446
00:20:39,447 --> 00:20:42,617
I thought it was the dog
jumping off the bed."
447
00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:45,412
-At some point in time later,
448
00:20:45,412 --> 00:20:47,997
Ed went in to check on Carolyn
449
00:20:47,997 --> 00:20:50,041
and found her on the floor
450
00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:51,418
unresponsive.
451
00:20:51,418 --> 00:20:52,752
♪♪
452
00:20:52,752 --> 00:20:54,504
-At Carolyn's autopsy,
453
00:20:54,504 --> 00:20:56,881
the coroner is unable to find
any conclusive evidence
454
00:20:56,881 --> 00:20:58,717
as to how she died.
455
00:20:58,717 --> 00:21:00,593
-The autopsy
didn't reveal anything
456
00:21:00,593 --> 00:21:02,262
as to the cause of death,
457
00:21:02,262 --> 00:21:05,306
so, as a result,
the death was ruled
458
00:21:05,306 --> 00:21:07,100
at that point in time
as undetermined.
459
00:21:07,100 --> 00:21:08,685
♪♪
460
00:21:08,685 --> 00:21:10,729
-We've got more than one
police agency involved.
461
00:21:10,729 --> 00:21:13,314
You've got Anderson dealing
with the first wife's death,
462
00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:15,108
and now you've got Henry County
463
00:21:15,108 --> 00:21:17,277
dealing with
the second wife's death.
464
00:21:17,277 --> 00:21:19,654
-At the time of Carolyn's death,
465
00:21:19,654 --> 00:21:22,991
we did make contact
with Henry County,
466
00:21:22,991 --> 00:21:26,953
but there was
no shared information
467
00:21:26,953 --> 00:21:28,997
before Bobbe's death.
468
00:21:28,997 --> 00:21:32,667
Ed was considered
a possible suspect,
469
00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:36,254
but the investigation
just dried up --
470
00:21:36,254 --> 00:21:37,797
became a cold case.
471
00:21:37,797 --> 00:21:39,591
♪♪
472
00:21:39,591 --> 00:21:43,845
-When we were looking back
at everything in 1994,
473
00:21:43,845 --> 00:21:45,597
it was uncanny,
474
00:21:45,597 --> 00:21:47,807
his accounts
to responding officers
475
00:21:47,807 --> 00:21:50,352
at two different scenes
years apart,
476
00:21:50,352 --> 00:21:52,771
with the same verbiage
in each report.
477
00:21:52,771 --> 00:21:54,773
"We were having a drink.
She went upstairs.
478
00:21:54,773 --> 00:21:56,941
"I heard a thunk...
479
00:21:56,941 --> 00:21:59,486
and I thought it was
the dog jumping off the bed."
480
00:21:59,486 --> 00:22:02,155
Same thing both times.
481
00:22:02,155 --> 00:22:05,575
After that, we felt
that he could be involved
482
00:22:05,575 --> 00:22:08,328
in the murders
of his first two wives.
483
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:09,871
♪♪
484
00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:11,831
-You lose one wife,
it's a tough situation.
485
00:22:11,831 --> 00:22:13,667
You lose two,
that's even tougher.
486
00:22:13,667 --> 00:22:15,085
But three times?
487
00:22:15,085 --> 00:22:16,711
That's a red flag.
488
00:22:16,711 --> 00:22:19,130
-After digging deeper
into Ed's background,
489
00:22:19,130 --> 00:22:21,716
detectives realize
it wasn't just his wives
490
00:22:21,716 --> 00:22:24,511
who died under
suspicious circumstances.
491
00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:27,013
-A few months before
Carolyn's death,
492
00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:30,350
Ed had been living
with his mother
493
00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:32,852
for a few weeks.
494
00:22:32,852 --> 00:22:35,355
She was an elderly woman.
495
00:22:35,355 --> 00:22:38,733
She lived alone,
and, at some point in time,
496
00:22:38,733 --> 00:22:42,278
he called and reported
that his mother was deceased.
497
00:22:42,278 --> 00:22:44,072
♪♪
498
00:22:44,072 --> 00:22:46,324
-There was no autopsy
performed on Ed's mother
499
00:22:46,324 --> 00:22:48,034
because of her age.
500
00:22:48,034 --> 00:22:50,203
She was in her later 70s,
501
00:22:50,203 --> 00:22:55,250
so they put it down
as sudden natural death.
502
00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:59,629
-A reasonable person's got to
look at the big picture and say,
503
00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:03,383
"You got this one person
that all these stories --
504
00:23:03,383 --> 00:23:05,218
Something's not right."
505
00:23:06,469 --> 00:23:08,430
-You got to wonder
506
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:11,975
whether you're actually
dealing with a serial killer
507
00:23:11,975 --> 00:23:16,646
or somebody that is
just unbelievably unlucky.
508
00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:18,189
-As police consider
509
00:23:18,189 --> 00:23:21,818
that these accidental deaths
may actually be murders,
510
00:23:21,818 --> 00:23:25,155
they discover a possible
common motive -- money.
511
00:23:25,155 --> 00:23:26,740
-During the investigation,
512
00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,616
we found that Ed had received
513
00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:30,035
$25,000
514
00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:31,536
from a life-insurance policy
515
00:23:31,536 --> 00:23:34,914
regarding his first wife,
Saundra's, death.
516
00:23:34,914 --> 00:23:37,792
Ed had received $400,000
517
00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:40,253
in life-insurance funds
518
00:23:40,253 --> 00:23:42,881
from Carolyn,
his second wife's death.
519
00:23:42,881 --> 00:23:46,426
And regarding
his mother's death,
520
00:23:46,426 --> 00:23:50,096
he received $1.3 million
521
00:23:50,096 --> 00:23:52,932
that he split with his siblings.
522
00:23:52,932 --> 00:23:54,976
-Ed was making
pretty decent money,
523
00:23:54,976 --> 00:23:56,978
but he liked to live
that lifestyle.
524
00:23:56,978 --> 00:23:59,022
I think everybody had
that impression
525
00:23:59,022 --> 00:24:03,276
that Ed lived maybe beyond
his financial means.
526
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:05,779
-Police want to know
if Bobbe also had
527
00:24:05,779 --> 00:24:08,281
a life-insurance policy
going to Ed.
528
00:24:08,281 --> 00:24:11,326
Not wanting to tip him off
about their growing suspicions,
529
00:24:11,326 --> 00:24:14,537
they reach out to Bobbe's family
for information.
530
00:24:14,537 --> 00:24:17,248
-Talking to Bobbe's family
about that,
531
00:24:17,248 --> 00:24:19,584
we learned
that Ed wasn't in line
532
00:24:19,584 --> 00:24:22,879
for any big insurance payoffs
533
00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:24,172
for Bobbe's death,
534
00:24:24,172 --> 00:24:26,841
but we found out
through Bobbe's family
535
00:24:26,841 --> 00:24:30,136
that Bobbe was planning
on leaving Ed.
536
00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,638
♪♪
537
00:24:31,638 --> 00:24:34,641
-Bobbe was going to divorce him,
538
00:24:34,641 --> 00:24:37,394
so, although Ed
wasn't gonna derive
539
00:24:37,394 --> 00:24:40,230
any life-insurance proceeds
from Bobbe,
540
00:24:40,230 --> 00:24:44,442
there is a financial angle
to this death.
541
00:24:44,442 --> 00:24:46,319
-Does she get half
of the business he owns,
542
00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,488
half of any money
in the bank account?
543
00:24:48,488 --> 00:24:51,866
I mean, all of a sudden, he's
looking at a huge financial hit.
544
00:24:51,866 --> 00:24:54,994
So, that was possibly
the motivation
545
00:24:54,994 --> 00:24:56,746
for Ed to kill his wife.
546
00:24:56,746 --> 00:24:58,998
♪♪
547
00:24:58,998 --> 00:25:03,712
♪♪
548
00:25:06,798 --> 00:25:11,011
♪♪
549
00:25:11,011 --> 00:25:13,096
♪♪
550
00:25:13,096 --> 00:25:16,016
-Still unsure
of exactly how Bobbe Amos died,
551
00:25:16,016 --> 00:25:18,309
police suspect her husband,
Ed Amos,
552
00:25:18,309 --> 00:25:19,519
may have killed her.
553
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,104
While continuing to investigate,
554
00:25:21,104 --> 00:25:23,023
they speak
with Bobbe's family members
555
00:25:23,023 --> 00:25:25,859
to learn why she was planning
to leave Ed.
556
00:25:25,859 --> 00:25:28,153
-Bobbe was getting away from Ed
557
00:25:28,153 --> 00:25:30,905
because she thought
he had been having an affair
558
00:25:30,905 --> 00:25:33,575
with an individual in Michigan.
559
00:25:33,575 --> 00:25:35,577
-Ed would spend a lot of time
in Detroit --
560
00:25:35,577 --> 00:25:38,079
that's where he was starting
his business --
561
00:25:38,079 --> 00:25:40,707
while Bobbe stayed in Anderson,
562
00:25:40,707 --> 00:25:42,375
so, through the week,
563
00:25:42,375 --> 00:25:44,961
he'd be up in Detroit
by himself.
564
00:25:44,961 --> 00:25:47,213
-Bobbe had found out
565
00:25:47,213 --> 00:25:48,923
that his business trips
566
00:25:48,923 --> 00:25:51,217
were really not
just business trips.
567
00:25:51,217 --> 00:25:52,719
♪♪
568
00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:54,679
-In early December 1994,
569
00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:57,015
just days before her death,
570
00:25:57,015 --> 00:25:58,641
Bobbe received a phone call
571
00:25:58,641 --> 00:26:01,061
from a woman
claiming to be Ed's mistress.
572
00:26:01,061 --> 00:26:02,896
-She actually called her,
573
00:26:02,896 --> 00:26:05,273
and they'd had
a long conversation
574
00:26:05,273 --> 00:26:07,067
about the relationship,
575
00:26:07,067 --> 00:26:09,152
and it was devastating
576
00:26:09,152 --> 00:26:11,029
but not surprising,
577
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:14,699
and Bobbe was just kind of,
578
00:26:14,699 --> 00:26:16,743
"It's over."
579
00:26:16,743 --> 00:26:19,954
And we believe Ed knew
580
00:26:19,954 --> 00:26:22,457
Bobbe found out
about the affair.
581
00:26:22,457 --> 00:26:25,585
Then, even though
they are splitting up,
582
00:26:25,585 --> 00:26:27,671
Bobbe made a decision
583
00:26:27,671 --> 00:26:30,173
that she's going to go to
this Christmas party with Ed.
584
00:26:30,173 --> 00:26:33,593
It was just one of those things
that we wished she didn't go.
585
00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:36,388
-After learning that Ed Amos
was potentially having an affair
586
00:26:36,388 --> 00:26:38,098
when his wife died,
587
00:26:38,098 --> 00:26:40,266
investigators reach out
to the other woman
588
00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:42,644
to find out what she may know.
589
00:26:42,644 --> 00:26:45,313
-We learned from Bobbe's family
590
00:26:45,313 --> 00:26:48,775
that her name was
Mary Zellinger.
591
00:26:48,775 --> 00:26:50,610
♪♪
592
00:26:50,610 --> 00:26:53,279
-It was January 1995.
593
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:55,115
I received a phone call,
594
00:26:55,115 --> 00:26:59,077
and it was Detective Henahan.
595
00:26:59,077 --> 00:27:01,705
He said,
"I'd like to talk to you."
596
00:27:01,705 --> 00:27:05,000
He had told me
that Bobbe Amos was dead,
597
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,127
and I was just --
598
00:27:07,127 --> 00:27:09,254
My legs just gave out.
599
00:27:09,254 --> 00:27:11,256
I went to the floor.
600
00:27:11,256 --> 00:27:13,091
♪♪
601
00:27:13,091 --> 00:27:14,968
I was in shock.
602
00:27:14,968 --> 00:27:16,720
♪♪
603
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,055
-The next day,
Mary goes to the police station
604
00:27:19,055 --> 00:27:21,850
to give a formal statement
about her relationship with Ed
605
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:24,436
and what she knows about Bobbe.
606
00:27:24,436 --> 00:27:26,938
-She admitted that her and Ed
607
00:27:26,938 --> 00:27:28,815
had an intimate relationship
608
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:30,483
but that it was over,
609
00:27:30,483 --> 00:27:34,029
and then she told me the story.
610
00:27:34,029 --> 00:27:37,032
-When I first came in contact
with Ed Amos,
611
00:27:37,032 --> 00:27:40,410
I was working in
the telecommunications field.
612
00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:44,205
We did a project together
for his company.
613
00:27:44,205 --> 00:27:46,583
He was a little flirty,
614
00:27:46,583 --> 00:27:49,252
a very handsome man,
615
00:27:49,252 --> 00:27:51,671
and explained to me
that he was widowed,
616
00:27:51,671 --> 00:27:55,759
and I felt really sad for him,
617
00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:57,427
but I enjoyed his company
a great deal.
618
00:27:57,427 --> 00:27:58,845
♪♪
619
00:27:58,845 --> 00:28:01,139
I live outside of Detroit,
620
00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:03,350
and Ed traveled back and forth
621
00:28:03,350 --> 00:28:06,394
from Indiana to Detroit
regularly,
622
00:28:06,394 --> 00:28:09,898
and we began seeing each other
every other week,
623
00:28:09,898 --> 00:28:11,900
depending on
what his projects were.
624
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:16,279
It was a casual,
very fun relationship,
625
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:20,367
and that then continued
for a few years.
626
00:28:20,367 --> 00:28:24,454
And then things changed.
627
00:28:24,454 --> 00:28:26,081
♪♪
628
00:28:26,081 --> 00:28:29,334
-She related to me that
there were a couple of times
629
00:28:29,334 --> 00:28:33,713
when she felt
like she had been drugged.
630
00:28:33,713 --> 00:28:35,465
-One evening,
631
00:28:35,465 --> 00:28:38,802
Ed invited me over after work
to have dinner,
632
00:28:38,802 --> 00:28:41,429
and I didn't know
if it was in the food
633
00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:43,682
or the alcohol,
634
00:28:43,682 --> 00:28:46,768
but something wasn't right.
635
00:28:46,768 --> 00:28:48,895
I went into the bathroom,
636
00:28:48,895 --> 00:28:51,981
and I just began to vomit
violently,
637
00:28:51,981 --> 00:28:53,775
and I was in so much pain,
638
00:28:53,775 --> 00:28:57,404
and I just wanted to die.
639
00:28:57,404 --> 00:29:00,448
It persisted, and --
and a week later,
640
00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:02,992
I finally made an appointment
with my doctor
641
00:29:02,992 --> 00:29:05,328
and told him
how violently ill I had been
642
00:29:05,328 --> 00:29:06,955
and it was just lingering.
643
00:29:06,955 --> 00:29:11,418
He did some bloodwork
and found nothing wrong.
644
00:29:11,418 --> 00:29:15,422
-She didn't know specifically
how she thinks he drugged her,
645
00:29:15,422 --> 00:29:17,048
but she felt that -- that way.
646
00:29:17,048 --> 00:29:18,967
-And it was very confusing.
647
00:29:18,967 --> 00:29:22,929
My sense was that
he'd been using drugs on me,
648
00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:25,181
but it just didn't add up.
649
00:29:25,181 --> 00:29:27,767
I-I-I trusted him.
650
00:29:27,767 --> 00:29:30,645
I knew he cared for me.
651
00:29:30,645 --> 00:29:32,856
-Mary tells police
she pushed aside
652
00:29:32,856 --> 00:29:35,191
any doubts she had
about Ed's character
653
00:29:35,191 --> 00:29:38,403
until she discovered
a disturbing secret.
654
00:29:38,403 --> 00:29:40,739
-It was in the fall of 1994.
655
00:29:40,739 --> 00:29:43,283
I noticed his dry cleaning,
656
00:29:43,283 --> 00:29:46,745
and I looked at the tag
from the cleaners,
657
00:29:46,745 --> 00:29:48,705
and I saw this name --
658
00:29:48,705 --> 00:29:50,206
Bobbe Amos.
659
00:29:50,206 --> 00:29:52,000
♪♪
660
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,879
When I saw that,
I realized that he's married!
661
00:29:55,879 --> 00:29:57,172
♪♪
662
00:29:57,172 --> 00:29:59,799
-That caused her
to be suspicious
663
00:29:59,799 --> 00:30:03,219
and start questioning things.
664
00:30:03,219 --> 00:30:06,890
-But I didn't tell Ed
I saw that tag.
665
00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:09,642
I wanted to see
how things played out.
666
00:30:09,642 --> 00:30:13,063
And so we had dinner
that evening,
667
00:30:13,063 --> 00:30:16,107
and he may have noticed
something's different,
668
00:30:16,107 --> 00:30:18,735
but he looked at me
669
00:30:18,735 --> 00:30:23,490
and said, "You need to get
far away from me
670
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:25,742
because I'm a bad dude"...
671
00:30:25,742 --> 00:30:27,160
♪♪
672
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,455
...with just
a kind of dead stare.
673
00:30:30,455 --> 00:30:32,457
It sent a chill down my spine.
674
00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:36,961
The voice that he used,
the look on his face --
675
00:30:36,961 --> 00:30:41,174
I have never felt
such evilness in my life,
676
00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:43,301
and that was the last time
I saw Ed.
677
00:30:43,301 --> 00:30:44,678
I-I was done.
678
00:30:44,678 --> 00:30:47,263
-That's why she made
the phone call to Bobbe.
679
00:30:47,263 --> 00:30:50,975
-I went through
all the information that I had
680
00:30:50,975 --> 00:30:52,352
from Ed's business,
681
00:30:52,352 --> 00:30:55,021
and, eventually,
I came across a number
682
00:30:55,021 --> 00:30:59,025
that I felt was probably
a home number.
683
00:30:59,025 --> 00:31:02,195
So I called that number,
684
00:31:02,195 --> 00:31:06,116
and Bobbe answered the phone,
and I said,
685
00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:09,035
"My name is Mary,
and I want you to know who I am,
686
00:31:09,035 --> 00:31:11,705
and I want you to know
that I did not know
687
00:31:11,705 --> 00:31:14,457
that you were married
to Ed Amos."
688
00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:19,546
And then I said,
"You need to be very afraid.
689
00:31:19,546 --> 00:31:21,548
I think you're in danger."
690
00:31:21,548 --> 00:31:25,844
I felt like I was trying
to help her,
691
00:31:25,844 --> 00:31:29,597
but I knew she wasn't
going to trust me or believe me.
692
00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:31,558
And then that call ended,
693
00:31:31,558 --> 00:31:34,769
and that was December 1, 1994,
694
00:31:34,769 --> 00:31:37,981
and so 10 days
after I made that call to her,
695
00:31:37,981 --> 00:31:39,691
she -- she was dead.
696
00:31:39,691 --> 00:31:41,693
♪♪
697
00:31:41,693 --> 00:31:44,237
There's no words to describe
698
00:31:44,237 --> 00:31:46,489
the dirtiness,
699
00:31:46,489 --> 00:31:48,491
the self-loathing.
700
00:31:48,491 --> 00:31:51,119
♪♪
701
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,371
[ Voice breaking ] I felt so...
702
00:31:53,371 --> 00:31:55,040
[ Sniffling ]
703
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,250
...responsible
704
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,502
that I couldn't do more.
705
00:31:59,502 --> 00:32:01,004
[ Crying ]
706
00:32:01,004 --> 00:32:06,634
♪♪
707
00:32:06,634 --> 00:32:09,554
-Soon after hearing Mary's
harrowing account,
708
00:32:09,554 --> 00:32:13,433
investigators receive
Bobbe's toxicology report.
709
00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:15,894
-The blood cocaine level
710
00:32:15,894 --> 00:32:18,772
on an average fatal overdose
711
00:32:18,772 --> 00:32:20,732
would have been 0.25.
712
00:32:20,732 --> 00:32:23,276
Bobbe's blood cocaine level
713
00:32:23,276 --> 00:32:26,029
was 5.7,
714
00:32:26,029 --> 00:32:30,617
which put 15 times
the amount it would take
715
00:32:30,617 --> 00:32:32,327
for a fatal overdose.
716
00:32:32,327 --> 00:32:34,621
-The medical examiner
also explained
717
00:32:34,621 --> 00:32:37,582
there would be no way
718
00:32:37,582 --> 00:32:40,293
for Bobbe to self-administer
719
00:32:40,293 --> 00:32:41,961
that amount of cocaine.
720
00:32:41,961 --> 00:32:44,506
-He said, "She'd have passed out
721
00:32:44,506 --> 00:32:46,758
long before
she could have ever gotten
722
00:32:46,758 --> 00:32:49,386
that much cocaine
into her system."
723
00:32:49,386 --> 00:32:50,428
♪♪
724
00:32:50,428 --> 00:32:52,555
-The medical examiner
725
00:32:52,555 --> 00:32:56,518
was able to confirm
that there was no accidental
726
00:32:56,518 --> 00:32:59,729
or potentially suicidal
explanation
727
00:32:59,729 --> 00:33:01,481
for Bobbe's death,
728
00:33:01,481 --> 00:33:03,441
so her manner of death
729
00:33:03,441 --> 00:33:06,111
was then changed to homicide.
730
00:33:06,111 --> 00:33:07,487
♪♪
731
00:33:07,487 --> 00:33:10,448
-It was a very big revelation.
732
00:33:10,448 --> 00:33:12,534
We were on the right track.
733
00:33:12,534 --> 00:33:14,869
We had, all along, felt
that Ed Amos
734
00:33:14,869 --> 00:33:17,163
was not only responsible
for Bobbe's death
735
00:33:17,163 --> 00:33:19,833
but his two prior wives
736
00:33:19,833 --> 00:33:21,501
and possibly his mother.
737
00:33:21,501 --> 00:33:22,669
♪♪
738
00:33:22,669 --> 00:33:24,254
And I wanted to make sure
739
00:33:24,254 --> 00:33:27,465
that he didn't get away
with murder again.
740
00:33:27,465 --> 00:33:30,844
Now we had to gather up
the evidence and prove it.
741
00:33:30,844 --> 00:33:33,096
♪♪
742
00:33:33,096 --> 00:33:37,308
♪♪
743
00:33:40,979 --> 00:33:45,150
♪♪
744
00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:46,651
♪♪
745
00:33:46,651 --> 00:33:49,154
-Shortly after Bobbe's death
is ruled a homicide,
746
00:33:49,154 --> 00:33:52,157
detectives learn the results
of the forensic examination
747
00:33:52,157 --> 00:33:54,826
of the water-soaked bedsheet
that she was found on
748
00:33:54,826 --> 00:33:56,286
at the crime scene.
749
00:33:56,286 --> 00:34:00,373
-There was evidence
of cocaine solution
750
00:34:00,373 --> 00:34:03,835
that had been on the bed
with Bobbe.
751
00:34:03,835 --> 00:34:05,462
♪♪
752
00:34:05,462 --> 00:34:08,548
-Our theory was
that the cocaine
753
00:34:08,548 --> 00:34:10,800
was liquefied with water
754
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,678
and Ed administered it
into her system
755
00:34:13,678 --> 00:34:16,097
enough to kill her,
756
00:34:16,097 --> 00:34:19,684
possibly using
an oversized syringe.
757
00:34:19,684 --> 00:34:20,894
♪♪
758
00:34:20,894 --> 00:34:22,729
-Needing hard evidence
or a witness
759
00:34:22,729 --> 00:34:24,522
to back up their theory,
760
00:34:24,522 --> 00:34:28,276
investigators turn back to
Ed's employee Daniel Porcasi,
761
00:34:28,276 --> 00:34:30,528
who they believe knows more
than he is saying
762
00:34:30,528 --> 00:34:32,822
about the night Bobbe died.
763
00:34:32,822 --> 00:34:35,992
-When I initially
was interviewing Porcasi,
764
00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:38,036
he seemed nervous.
765
00:34:38,036 --> 00:34:39,704
I got the opinion
766
00:34:39,704 --> 00:34:42,665
that maybe he didn't want to
be accused of being involved
767
00:34:42,665 --> 00:34:45,126
in -- in narcotics
768
00:34:45,126 --> 00:34:46,461
or Bobbe's death.
769
00:34:46,461 --> 00:34:48,046
So I had him come
to headquarters,
770
00:34:48,046 --> 00:34:50,090
where I could interview him.
771
00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:53,301
-Ultimately, Porcasi admitted
772
00:34:53,301 --> 00:34:56,596
that he had removed a bag
773
00:34:56,596 --> 00:34:58,640
from Ed Amos's hotel room
774
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,184
the morning of the death.
775
00:35:01,184 --> 00:35:02,602
♪♪
776
00:35:02,602 --> 00:35:05,438
-That morning,
before the officers arrived,
777
00:35:05,438 --> 00:35:09,776
Ed called and told him, "I need
you to come to my room now."
778
00:35:09,776 --> 00:35:11,778
When Porcasi went down there,
779
00:35:11,778 --> 00:35:14,239
Ed gave him a small satchel --
780
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,700
it's like
a toilet-article kit --
781
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,952
and said,
"I need you to take this
782
00:35:18,952 --> 00:35:20,453
and get it out of here."
783
00:35:20,453 --> 00:35:23,790
Porcasi immediately checked out
of the room
784
00:35:23,790 --> 00:35:25,583
and got out of there.
785
00:35:25,583 --> 00:35:27,877
-He's an employee, so his boss
says, "Hey, take the bag,"
786
00:35:27,877 --> 00:35:28,920
he takes it.
787
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,463
♪♪
788
00:35:30,463 --> 00:35:31,798
Later in that same day,
789
00:35:31,798 --> 00:35:35,844
Ed drives 40 miles away
to Daniel's house,
790
00:35:35,844 --> 00:35:37,429
collects the bag.
791
00:35:37,429 --> 00:35:40,098
-And we're like,
"So, what was so important
792
00:35:40,098 --> 00:35:42,225
that he had to run out there
immediately to get it back?"
793
00:35:42,225 --> 00:35:44,352
And he said he didn't look.
794
00:35:44,352 --> 00:35:47,063
And my thought,
795
00:35:47,063 --> 00:35:48,940
looking him right in the eye,
was like,
796
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:51,276
"Come on. Really?
797
00:35:51,276 --> 00:35:53,695
You didn't peek?"
798
00:35:53,695 --> 00:35:56,823
And, finally, he said,
yeah, he looked.
799
00:35:56,823 --> 00:36:00,326
We asked him,
"So, what was in it?
800
00:36:00,326 --> 00:36:02,787
What was in
that little satchel?"
801
00:36:02,787 --> 00:36:06,708
-He says he found a syringe
802
00:36:06,708 --> 00:36:09,461
and a washcloth
803
00:36:09,461 --> 00:36:11,671
that had some kind
of a stain on it.
804
00:36:11,671 --> 00:36:14,341
-He said it was a big syringe,
805
00:36:14,341 --> 00:36:16,509
and that helped prove our theory
806
00:36:16,509 --> 00:36:20,347
about how Ed administered
the cocaine to her
807
00:36:20,347 --> 00:36:21,681
with a large syringe.
808
00:36:21,681 --> 00:36:24,267
-Investigators are now confident
809
00:36:24,267 --> 00:36:26,644
they know what happened to Bobbe
in the hotel room
810
00:36:26,644 --> 00:36:28,188
the night she died.
811
00:36:28,188 --> 00:36:30,315
-It's reasonable to assume
812
00:36:30,315 --> 00:36:34,652
that Ed had stuck something
in her drink
813
00:36:34,652 --> 00:36:39,240
to cause her
to further be incapacitated
814
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,576
so she wouldn't resist.
815
00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:45,789
-He diluted half an ounce
of cocaine in water,
816
00:36:45,789 --> 00:36:47,749
which is a lot of cocaine,
817
00:36:47,749 --> 00:36:50,210
and then pulled it up
into the syringe
818
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:53,880
and injected it into her vagina.
819
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,258
It would have entered
into her system right away,
820
00:36:57,258 --> 00:37:00,720
and she began to overdose
from it.
821
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,390
And then, of course,
he did some cleanup --
822
00:37:03,390 --> 00:37:06,976
put the syringe and the cloth
in that satchel,
823
00:37:06,976 --> 00:37:09,396
called one of his employees,
824
00:37:09,396 --> 00:37:12,941
and he gave them that satchel
to take out.
825
00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:16,653
-Ultimately,
that bag was given back to Amos
826
00:37:16,653 --> 00:37:19,572
before the police
had a chance to take it
827
00:37:19,572 --> 00:37:21,408
for possible evidence.
828
00:37:21,408 --> 00:37:23,451
-And then two hours later,
829
00:37:23,451 --> 00:37:25,537
Ed calls the desk at the hotel,
830
00:37:25,537 --> 00:37:27,497
saying his wife is deceased.
831
00:37:27,497 --> 00:37:28,957
He was diabolical.
832
00:37:28,957 --> 00:37:30,917
He knew exactly
what he was gonna do,
833
00:37:30,917 --> 00:37:34,587
and he thought that
he would get away with it again.
834
00:37:34,587 --> 00:37:36,339
-We took about a year
835
00:37:36,339 --> 00:37:38,258
of putting all the pieces
of the puzzle together
836
00:37:38,258 --> 00:37:40,135
and getting
to where we wanted to be
837
00:37:40,135 --> 00:37:42,846
as far as pursuing
the prosecution,
838
00:37:42,846 --> 00:37:46,516
and then we got the warrant
for Amos's arrest.
839
00:37:46,516 --> 00:37:48,184
♪♪
840
00:37:48,184 --> 00:37:50,228
-In November 1995,
841
00:37:50,228 --> 00:37:52,147
investigators travel
to Las Vegas
842
00:37:52,147 --> 00:37:54,566
to arrest Ed Amos
for the first-degree murder
843
00:37:54,566 --> 00:37:56,651
of his wife, Bobbe.
844
00:37:56,651 --> 00:37:59,029
-Ed had relocated to Las Vegas,
845
00:37:59,029 --> 00:38:03,116
so I went to Vegas
to make the arrest.
846
00:38:03,116 --> 00:38:07,704
I told him, "You're under arrest
for the murder of Bobbe Amos."
847
00:38:07,704 --> 00:38:09,789
That's when I advised him
of his rights,
848
00:38:09,789 --> 00:38:13,251
and he didn't want to make
any statements.
849
00:38:13,251 --> 00:38:16,129
And then we put him
on a prisoner-transport bus
850
00:38:16,129 --> 00:38:17,464
back to Detroit.
851
00:38:17,464 --> 00:38:20,300
-When Ed was finally arrested,
852
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:21,468
the family --
853
00:38:21,468 --> 00:38:24,346
we were relieved
854
00:38:24,346 --> 00:38:26,681
and happy
855
00:38:26,681 --> 00:38:28,933
but also afraid
856
00:38:28,933 --> 00:38:32,145
that "Is he really gonna go
to jail this time?"
857
00:38:32,145 --> 00:38:35,106
♪♪
858
00:38:35,106 --> 00:38:39,861
♪♪
859
00:38:42,947 --> 00:38:47,160
♪♪
860
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,661
♪♪
861
00:38:48,661 --> 00:38:50,580
-In September of 1996,
862
00:38:50,580 --> 00:38:53,458
nearly two years
after Bobbe Amos's death,
863
00:38:53,458 --> 00:38:55,585
the trial
of her suspected killer
864
00:38:55,585 --> 00:38:58,171
and husband Ed Amos begins.
865
00:38:58,171 --> 00:39:00,423
-Michigan state law had changed
866
00:39:00,423 --> 00:39:04,177
not too long prior
to -- to Bobbe's death
867
00:39:04,177 --> 00:39:07,597
where that would allow
the prosecution to introduce
868
00:39:07,597 --> 00:39:10,809
what would be termed
as prior bad acts,
869
00:39:10,809 --> 00:39:13,353
even if they weren't charged
criminally.
870
00:39:13,353 --> 00:39:14,979
♪♪
871
00:39:14,979 --> 00:39:16,856
-That was huge.
872
00:39:16,856 --> 00:39:18,441
♪♪
873
00:39:18,441 --> 00:39:22,320
That showed the jury
that there's a history here.
874
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,574
-We had witnesses
from Indiana, Michigan --
875
00:39:26,574 --> 00:39:29,160
family members
and Mary Zellinger
876
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,537
up to testify.
877
00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:32,080
♪♪
878
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,041
-Testifying was hard,
but I had to do that.
879
00:39:35,041 --> 00:39:37,127
It was humiliating,
embarrassing,
880
00:39:37,127 --> 00:39:40,839
to have had a relationship
with a very evil man.
881
00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:42,298
But, obviously,
882
00:39:42,298 --> 00:39:45,385
sociopaths are chameleons.
883
00:39:45,385 --> 00:39:46,928
♪♪
884
00:39:46,928 --> 00:39:50,432
He thought he was smarter
than everyone else,
885
00:39:50,432 --> 00:39:53,935
and, probably, he laughed at us
886
00:39:53,935 --> 00:39:56,521
that we trusted
or believed in him.
887
00:39:56,521 --> 00:39:58,106
♪♪
888
00:39:58,106 --> 00:40:01,401
They walk among us --
these perverted people.
889
00:40:01,401 --> 00:40:03,778
They will sweep you
off your feet.
890
00:40:03,778 --> 00:40:06,322
They're charming,
891
00:40:06,322 --> 00:40:09,576
and they could be the one
that will take your life.
892
00:40:09,576 --> 00:40:12,037
♪♪
893
00:40:12,037 --> 00:40:14,039
-After three weeks of testimony,
894
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:17,042
on October 24, 1996,
895
00:40:17,042 --> 00:40:19,544
the jury returns with a verdict.
896
00:40:19,544 --> 00:40:21,629
-We were shaking
897
00:40:21,629 --> 00:40:22,922
because
898
00:40:22,922 --> 00:40:24,591
we didn't know what to expect.
899
00:40:24,591 --> 00:40:26,092
♪♪
900
00:40:26,092 --> 00:40:28,928
And then when they said,
"Guilty"...
901
00:40:28,928 --> 00:40:30,096
♪♪
902
00:40:30,096 --> 00:40:31,890
...there was a cheer.
903
00:40:31,890 --> 00:40:35,352
There was such a...
904
00:40:35,352 --> 00:40:37,354
sigh of...
905
00:40:37,354 --> 00:40:40,106
happiness,
if there could be happiness,
906
00:40:40,106 --> 00:40:43,109
that this guy
is off the streets.
907
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:46,363
-Ed was found guilty
of first-degree murder
908
00:40:46,363 --> 00:40:49,574
in the death of Bobbe Amos
909
00:40:49,574 --> 00:40:52,202
and was sentenced
to life in prison,
910
00:40:52,202 --> 00:40:53,453
no parole.
911
00:40:53,453 --> 00:40:55,663
♪♪
912
00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:58,958
-I felt so much relief,
913
00:40:58,958 --> 00:41:00,919
joy...
914
00:41:00,919 --> 00:41:03,922
that justice had been served
915
00:41:03,922 --> 00:41:07,550
and that he would never do
this again to anyone else,
916
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:11,513
and that was --
that was all we could ask for.
917
00:41:11,513 --> 00:41:14,557
-One of my first thoughts
when he was found guilty
918
00:41:14,557 --> 00:41:18,103
is I thought about
the family of Saundra Amos.
919
00:41:18,103 --> 00:41:20,647
I thought
about Carolyn's family.
920
00:41:20,647 --> 00:41:22,857
I felt that there was
finally some closure in this
921
00:41:22,857 --> 00:41:26,152
and that a serial killer
got what he deserved.
922
00:41:26,152 --> 00:41:28,446
♪♪
923
00:41:28,446 --> 00:41:31,324
-We put a lot of effort
and a lot of hard work into it.
924
00:41:31,324 --> 00:41:33,618
It's what they call
a career case.
925
00:41:33,618 --> 00:41:37,122
Yeah, I'm --
I'm happy with the results.
926
00:41:37,122 --> 00:41:40,125
-I'm proud
to have been just a part
927
00:41:40,125 --> 00:41:42,502
of this whole investigation.
928
00:41:42,502 --> 00:41:44,671
It was a team effort,
929
00:41:44,671 --> 00:41:46,589
and, hopefully, Bobbe's family
930
00:41:46,589 --> 00:41:51,011
will have some sense of --
of closure, as well.
931
00:41:51,011 --> 00:41:57,350
♪♪
932
00:41:57,350 --> 00:42:04,441
♪♪
933
00:42:04,441 --> 00:42:06,651
-I have pictures of her
in the house,
934
00:42:06,651 --> 00:42:09,821
and I just always talk to her,
935
00:42:09,821 --> 00:42:12,198
just telling her I miss her.
936
00:42:12,198 --> 00:42:13,908
So...
937
00:42:15,702 --> 00:42:17,203
Okay.
938
00:42:17,203 --> 00:42:20,915
♪♪
939
00:42:20,915 --> 00:42:22,417
It is sad
940
00:42:22,417 --> 00:42:26,004
that we don't have her,
941
00:42:26,004 --> 00:42:28,673
but we have the memories
942
00:42:28,673 --> 00:42:32,010
and we still talk about her.
943
00:42:32,010 --> 00:42:34,554
So, I think that's
how we keep her alive.
944
00:42:34,554 --> 00:42:36,723
She always was
such a bright light.
945
00:42:36,723 --> 00:42:41,102
♪♪
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