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Sergeant David Budd,
Metropolitan Police.
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British Transport Police have put out
an alert on a possible suicide bomber
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attempting to board a London-bound service.
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(She gasps)
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Don't do that. Please don't do that.
Please! Just stay still. Stay still.
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The man that was in here before'?
Is that your husband?
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And your husband wants you to die'?
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JULIA: I can't see an y justification
for believing the Taliban
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would govern Afghanistan
in peace and harmony,
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or Iraqi insurgents would ever
have formed a stable democracy.
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That doesn't require
apologising for the past.
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(Film rewinds)
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That doesn't require
apologising for the past.
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I know you'll never let anything
bad happen to me.
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You said it. Out in Helmand.
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If you ever found yourself right beside one
of those bastards that sent us out there,
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you'd just close your eyes and pull the trigger.
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- Armed police!
- You've got to finish the job.
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(She gasps)
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(She cries out)
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(Choking)
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Whatever your training has made you,
it's out of control.
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- No, I'm fine, Julia.
- You are far from fine.
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LONGCROSS: We've taken the liberty
of providing you with a tablet.
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So the material can't be traced
to your own devices.
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I need to ask you to identify yourself.
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Richard Longcross.
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They're feeding her intelligence
they're keeping from us.
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What is she up to'? You need to find out.
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- Julia'?
- Prime Minister.
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This is unexpected.
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Julia's snatching the key to Number 10.
We need to do something, fast.
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- Who the hell does she think she is'?
- Do you want a plan put in place?
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I want you right beside me,
not because it's your job,
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but because it's our choice.
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If you fulfil your engagement at St Matthew's,
you'd get the exposure you need.
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I'm sure the police
would take a different view.
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This is a very, very dangerous politician,
someone who must be stopped.
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What do you want'?
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DAVID: You see anyone out there?
- No.
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Stay put.
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DAVID: What's in the briefcase?
TAHIR: Research files.
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Show me.
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- Everything OK, skipper?
- False alarm.
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(Boom of explosion)
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The Home Secretary Julia Montague
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was among those injured
in the blast at St Matthew's College.
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ROGER: I heard there were security breaches
from the word go. What the hell happened?
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A search team swept the auditorium twice.
Everything was clear.
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Well, it wasn't, was it'?
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SHARMA: After today's incident,
we can't rule out a connection...
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SAMPSON: Suggesting the gunman
had at least one accomplice.
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- (Sirens wail)
- (Overlapping chatter)
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(Reporters all talking at once)
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(Sirens wail)
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(Overlapping news reports)
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REPORTER:
..being advised by hospital officials
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that Ms Montague's
currently undergoing major surgery.
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DU Sharma.
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The Metropolitan Police
is on high alert across London
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with off duty officers
being called in from home
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to help in the urgent quest to identify
and round up any accomplices...
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TANNOY". Trauma call, ETA 15 minutes.
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Trauma call, ETA 15 minutes.
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(Overlapping chatter)
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You need to go in there.
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PC Tom Fenton'? DCI Deepak Sharma, SO15.
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- Sir.
- Sorry this is crap timing, mate,
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but I was trying to form a picture
of the events surrounding the explosion.
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Witnesses have already told us
one of your Principal's aides, Tahir Mahmood,
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appeared at the side of the stage,
and that he was carrying a briefcase?
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I didn't have eyes on that myself, sir.
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What about afterwards'?
Anything from Mahmood'?
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No, sir. He died instantly.
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What do you recall about the final moments
before the explosion?
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Erm...
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Kim... PC Knowles,
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she approached the stage.
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That's when the device went off.
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I was looking towards PS Budd,
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to get a... a steer on what was going on.
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What about Budd'?
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I'm a bit in the dark on that, sir.
He left the auditorium and...
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...when he came back in
that's when Mahmood appeared on the stage.
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- What was Budd doing outside?
- I don't know, sir.
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That's unusual, though, isn't it'?
More than a coincidence?
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I'm so sorry, sir.
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Look. Before you go off duty,
I need you to write up a first account.
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Everything you can remember. Everything.
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OK, sir.
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Thanks.
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KUENSSBERG: Amid the profound sense
of shock here tonight,
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two big, straightforward questions
are being asked.
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First." was Julia Montague
the intended target of this attack?
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And second:
was she just moments away
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from launching a bid
to take over at Number 10?
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On that first question
the answer is we simply do not know.
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On the second... Well, for many months
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there have been deepening divisions
between her and the Prime Minister,
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the two at odds over their approach to security,
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with the Home Secretary
pushing a more hard fine stance...
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- Sarge'?
- “with the controversial bill RIPA-18.
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Boss. Over here.
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All the TV cameras
were trained on the Home Secretary.
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We have this wider view
from a CCTV camera.
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Show us frame by frame on the explosion.
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(Presses key repeatedly)
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From this angle, it's unclear if the explosion
originated from the briefcase.
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- You've shared this with Fort Halstead?
- Yeah.
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One for them to figure out. Ta.
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You got a location on Budd'?
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On it, sir.
Then we'll get him straight in for a statement.
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Not just yet.
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(Mobile buzzing)
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- ...in the concealed files.
- Sarge!
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David.
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- What's going on'?
- We're tracking communications
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involving the Home Secretary's inner circle,
in case they were compromised.
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OK...
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We're looking for anything that might help us.
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Are you OK to consent to us taking
all of your phones, computers
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and any other relevant devices
you've been using for work'?
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- Uh...
- And it'd be a big help
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if we could also search your address, please.
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It's not a POLSA search
or anything that detailed.
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Sure. Anything to help.
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Cheers. And the phone.
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Ta.
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Right, let's get on with it.
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(Police radio chatter)
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Bag up that computer
and any other devices he has laying around.
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OFFICER: Sarge!
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Open it up.
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(Bleep)
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SHARMA: Mind if we crack on
while everything's still fresh?
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- Sir.
- One of yourCPOs,
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Tom Fenton,
has provided us with a first account.
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Fenton was on duty with you
and PC Kimberley Knowles
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during the Home Secretary's speech.
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- That's correct.
- Fenton recalled you and PC Knowles
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left the auditorium
a short time before the explosion.
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- Yes.
- Why'?
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I uh...saw someone outside the auditorium.
I went to investigate.
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- Someone acting suspiciously?
- That's what I went to investigate.
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Who was this person?
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What does Kim say'?
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What'?
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I'm...sorry, David.
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Erm...
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Kimberly appears
to have been very close by the stage
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when the device went off.
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She died of her injuries.
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Look, mate, you know
how important this might be.
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Who was it'?
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Tam Mahmoqd.
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In what way was he behaving suspiciously?
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He wasn't, or I'd have detained him.
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So, what was he up to'?
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He needed to get information
to the Home Secretary.
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He was looking for backstage access.
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That's unusual, isn't it'?
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- I wouldn't know.
- What'? A big speech.
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Some flunkie arsing about on stage
kind of ruins the image, doesn't it'?
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It's like I said. It's not my area.
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Witnesses report Tahir Mahmood
was carrying a briefcase.
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Yes. He showed me the contents.
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Home Office documents.
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How thoroughly
did you examine the briefcase?
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I inspected the contents.
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"Inspected"?
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I looked inside. Documents.
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- Nothing else.
- Did you search Mahmood'?
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If I saw grounds under Stop and Search,
I'd have searched him.
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He was a vetted government aide
going about official business.
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So you didn't search him'?
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No.
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Some of the witnesses are informing us
that the explosion originated from the briefcase.
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We've got these video captures
of CCTV in the seconds before the attack.
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As you can see,
Knowles approached the stage.
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Yes.
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SHARMA: Looks like she's alarmed
that Mahmood was up there.
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That's possible.
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And there's you...
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...not so quick on the uptake.
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Like I said,
I didn't think he posed a threat.
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Why did you say, "What did Kim say?"
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You were the officer in command.
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You could've ordered him to be removed.
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This is the second attempt
on the Home Secretary's life.
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Following the Thornton Circus
sniper attack.
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Both times you were the PPO:
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...the officer in charge of
the Home Secretary's protection.
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Yes, sir.
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Either you've got rotten luck, mate,
or it's a coincidence.
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- Yes, sir.
- I don't believe in coincidences.
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I can't help you there, sir.
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Maybe you can help me with something else.
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Why the Home Secretary'?
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- Sir'?
- Not the Prime Minister.
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Or a softer target.
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You join her protection team
and we've got Thornton Circus,
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we've got St Matthew's College -
what's going on'?
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The Home Secretary has been the
Government's most...visible spokesperson
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for national security
since well before I was her PPO.
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Louise.
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Thank you for providing access to your devices.
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We've only had time for an initial examination.
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Now there appears to be occasions...
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when you turned off your mobile phone.
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Why is that, David?
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Cannot be disturbed. Save battery.
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You're aware the effect
is to deactivate the phone's GPS
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- so your movements can't be tracked.
- That's not the reason.
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You also carried out a search on the Home
Secretary's parliamentary voting record.
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Yeah, why was that, David?
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Curiosity.
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Your duty's to protect a politician
regardless of their policies.
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What were you curious about?
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Nothing in particular.
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David, tell me something...
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Why did you abscond from the hospital?
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"Abscond"? No, sir.
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I was with the Home Secretary.
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Government officials arrived.
I was ordered to give them privacy.
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You just walked out.
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Didn't report back to your unit,
didn't provide a statement.
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Louise had to track you down.
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Not hard, sir, was it'? I went home.
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Why weren't you assisting the inquiry'?
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I just wanted to be alone.
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An inquiry into an act of terror
perpetrated by someone
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you were the last police officer
to be in close contact with'?
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David...
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ls there something you're not revealing to us
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regarding the state of your mind before,
during or after the attack?
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No.
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Right. Well, they're searching your flat.
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You got anywhere you could stay tonight?
Anyone you can call'?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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(Car door slams)
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(Knocks)
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OFFICER: It's the husband. PS Budd.
- Sorry.
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All secure here.
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After you hung up on me,
I kept trying to call you back.
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They took my phone as pan of the investigation.
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Why couldn't you just let me know
you were OK'?
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Cos I'm not.
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They've said...
one of the police officers was killed.
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Is it someone you knew well'?
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We worked together.
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Your new bloke.
He gonna make a good dad'?
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(Sighs) You're their dad, Dave.
You'll always be their dad.
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- David...
- It's my job to protect the Principal.
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Now she's in an operating theatre
fighting for her life.
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Look. The sofa's made up for you.
I need to go up.
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We'll talk in the morning, yeah'?
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Yeah.
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(Door closes)
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...after the emergency services
were alerted at around five o 'clock yesterday.
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There's now speculation
that their initial findings
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suggest the incident bears similarities to recent
acts of terror involving explosive devices
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such as the failed 1st of October rail attack.
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I'm the Home Secretary's Principal
Protection Officer. ls there any news'?
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I'll take care of this.
She's still in the operating theatre.
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I can take your number
and call if there's an update.
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Thanks. I'll er...
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- I'll wait.
- (News report continues on TV)
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TV: The police's biggest fear
has always been
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that these devices represent
the work of a single bomb-maker
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or a bomb-making terror cell.
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Officers from the Metropolitan Police's
Countefierrorism Branch, SO15,
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have been working round the dock
to identify suspects,
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but apart from the man and woman detained
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for their part in the 1st of October attack,
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there have been no further arrests.
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The Merle Head of Counter- Terrorism,
Commander Anne Sampson,
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has come under increasing pressure.
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However, sources dose
to Commander Sampson
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have told BBC News that the Met
are facing an extraordinary threat.
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Commander Anne Sampson.
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Thank you all for coming in.
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The PM's asked me to step up
to Acting Home Secretary.
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Now it goes without saying,
I'd never wish in a million years
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to assume this role
under these circumstances,
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and I hope it's not long
before Julia's able to retake the reins.
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In the meantime, my duty's very clear:
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to identify those responsible
and neutralise any threats still at large.
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I know you'll all help me to do that.
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The Security Service is working round the clock.
We'll continue to serve faithfully.
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I understand IS have put out a tweet.
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"We salute our brothers who have stuck
a knife in the heart of the British state."
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They're not actually claiming responsibility:
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plus the tvveefs light on detail
with no specific mention of the bomber.
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We're conducting a meticulous forensic
examination of the crime scene
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and we've begun inspecting CCTV of the venue.
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So far only one suspicious individual
has been detected,
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a presumptive suicide bomber
killed instantly by the blast.
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Tam Mahmoqd.
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My Goo. How could it be someone
from our own department?
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Aren't we meant to vet these people?
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The evidence incriminating Mahmood
is still only circumstantial.
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He was vetted. Thoroughly.
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He had no terrorist associations whatsoever.
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How could he? He was cleared
to work in the heart of government.
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We've only just begun examining
Mahmoods communication history.
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Counter-Terrorism officers have been
carrying out raids throughout the night.
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We've taken a number of Mahmoods
family members into custody.
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It's too early to exclude anyone or anything -
far too early.
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The more pertinent question is how and why
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did the police officers responsible
for the Home Secretary's safety
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- fail to detect the bomb in the first place?
- You're not listening, Stephen.
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The device wasn't planted beforehand,
it was smuggled in by Mahmood.
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You don't have proof yet
and all I'm hearing, Anne,
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is you trying to point the finger
at the Security Service.
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For God's sake stop this!
The country's relying on us to work together.
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Thank you.
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Now I know this is difficult
for everyone to contemplate,
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but my officers need access
to all staff associated with Mahmood.
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Naturally we will...co-operate fully,
but this must be in strictest confidence.
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- Absolutely.
- This cannot get out. Cannot!
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No leaks.
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The more we delve into this inquiry,
the more likely it seems
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all the recent terror events
could be connected.
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In our view, the probability is extremely high
of a single bomb-maker.
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All these incidents could be connected
under a single conspiracy.
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Accomplices to that conspiracy
could still be at large,
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including the mastermind behind it all.
328
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,765
Yes.
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I don't...in the circumstances
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mean to sound unsympathetic,
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but it would help to know
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if the Home Secretary's wishes still apply
333
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regarding the Security Service
taking the lead in these investigations?
334
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,243
- It's a police matter.
- Thank you very much.
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00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,968
Thanks.
336
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,050
New broom, Stephen.
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00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,243
Seems the Acting Home Secretary's
not as susceptible to the bullshit.
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(Low conversation)
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00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,724
David?
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00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,488
This way, please.
341
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,048
ROGER: What the hell are you still doing here'?
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00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,130
You had your job and you failed. I'm sorry.
343
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,682
ROGER: Roger Penhaligon.
SURGEON: Hello.
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We did everything we could. I'm sorry.
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00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,371
It is with the deepest regret
that I can confirm...
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that despite the heroic efforts
of our emergency services
347
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the Home Secretary, Julia Montague,
348
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succumbed to her injuries
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00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,450
and was pronounced dead
a short while ago.
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I wish to express my government's gratitude
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to those members of the emergency
services who've rendered assistance,
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00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,803
and extend our deepest sympathies
to every victim of yesterdays attack,
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which also claimed the llfe
of our esteemed colleague, Julia Montague.
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00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,729
Our thoughts and prayers g0 out
to her friends and family at this tragic time.
355
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,121
Yesterday's assault
on our democratic process
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was a cowardly act
perpetrated by individuals
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with no regard for our values of tolerance,
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00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,525
respect and the rule of law.
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00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:09,440
My government and I will continue
to be vigilant against tnese conspiracies
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which betray the unity of our nation.
361
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:18,010
These plots do not always arise
from outside our number,
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00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,568
...outside our community...
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some fester within.
364
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,726
(Exhales)
365
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,207
(Breathing heavily)
366
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,725
(Gun clatters)
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00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,450
(Sobs)
368
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,208
Fuck!
369
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,848
(Sobs)
370
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,604
Fuck!
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00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:19,727
Boss. We've got CCTV on Mahmood.
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00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,484
Great.
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00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,008
Play again.
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00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,528
- Is that the briefcase?
- Yes, sir.
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00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,762
Just watch what happens next.
376
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,809
Shit.
377
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,848
Play on.
378
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,688
We're going through the Palace
of Westminster Security to ID him.
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00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,728
Thanks, Louise.
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00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,929
(Knock at door, door opens)
381
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,809
ASSISTANT:
Ma'am. DCI Sharma.
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00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,644
Ma'am.
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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,802
Rob Macdonald.
He's worked at the Home Office for three years,
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00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360
the last two as Special Advisor
to Julia Montague.
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00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,329
Why is he of interest?
386
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,928
Just a couple of hours before the bombing.
387
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,688
We understand Macdonald's
at the Home Office now.
388
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,808
Louise Rayburn's on standby to bring him in.
389
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,526
Mex' am'?
390
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,045
I've only just got the Home Office back on side.
391
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,920
Leave this with me, ifthafs OK, Deepak.
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00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,447
(Door opens and closes)
393
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,488
(Beep, ringing tone)
394
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,800
Yes, ma'am?
395
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,724
Put me through to Mike Travis
at the Home Office.
396
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,847
Ma 'am.
397
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,764
(Door bell chimes)
398
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,128
Dave, it's me.
399
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,488
David!
400
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,848
David, I know you took my keys.
401
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,809
(Sighs)
402
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,123
David, I've been phoning you all morning.
I'm worried about you.
403
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,208
Look. Open the door or I'll call the police!
404
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,248
(Scraping from inside flat)
405
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,448
Dave, is that you'?
406
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,243
Look, open the door or,
I mean it, I will call the police!
407
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,530
(Footsteps)
408
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,125
Dave!
409
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,323
(Soft clink and clatter)
410
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,641
What is this stuff'?
411
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,688
Brass fragments.
412
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,568
Fragments of what'?
413
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:01,928
From the case.
414
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,288
What case'?
415
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,128
The bullet case.
416
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,609
(Pincers clatter)
417
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,045
Oh, my God...
418
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,882
Dave, what the fuck!
419
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,489
I mean...
420
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,889
What about...
What about Ella and Charlie?
421
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,724
L...
422
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,446
- I'm taking you straight to the hospital.
- No.
423
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,446
No one can know about this.
424
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,524
There is a burn and a bruise and it looks like
you've ruptured your eardrum.
425
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,809
- They'll heal, won't they?
- Yes, Dave, in time, but...
426
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,641
Jesus Christ, you cannot keep
pretending that you're OK.
427
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,968
Dave, you shot yourself.
428
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,684
Not quite.
429
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,365
It was a blank round.
430
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,242
Well, why did you use a blank?
431
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,364
I didn't know it was.
432
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,728
I don't know hovv
that could've happened.
433
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,447
Right, Vic.
You better go. The kids, eh'?
434
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,923
There is no way
lam leaving you here like this.
435
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,924
WEBB: Waterloo Station was closed
while bomb disposal officers
436
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,604
were called to investigate a suspect...
437
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,170
KEARNEY:
The alert proved to be a false alarm
438
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,847
and services resumed this evening,
though there will be delays due to...
439
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,729
ROBINSON: A terror cell ls still at large.
440
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,246
The palpable fear
on the streets of London
441
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,402
is that the bomb-maker will construct...
442
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,051
HUSAIN: A terror alert at Vauxhall Bridge
was another false alarm
443
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,647
yet all police leave remains cancelled
until funner notice.
444
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,405
Look. I'm really sorry. I can't tonight.
445
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,448
A friend's come over.
446
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,768
She's having a bit of a crisis...
447
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,250
Why are you wearing that'?
448
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,405
It keeps my head warm.
449
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,481
You don't normally wear a hat indoors.
450
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:25,925
You said it's silly.
451
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,129
Then I'm being silly. The pizza good'?
452
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,601
- It's nice.
- It's OK.
453
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,249
(Stifled sob)
454
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,482
Dad, what's wrong'?
455
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,848
Nothing. I just need a hug.
456
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,047
(Sobs)
457
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,407
Dad'? Are you all right'?
458
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,401
I just did something silly today.
459
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,925
Wearing the hat'?
460
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,888
That too.
461
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,766
I love you both very much.
462
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,888
Right. Come on. Pizza.
463
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,124
MCVEIGH: In her political career,
Julia Montague was a divisive figure.
464
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,043
In the weeks before her assassination,
465
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,522
she was best known for spearheading
the controversial RIPA-18 bill
466
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,523
through the House of Commons.
467
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,810
Her stance on national security issues
made her a target of protests
468
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,087
by civil liberties groups.
469
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,369
Ms Montague was the target
of an earlier assassination attempt
470
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,410
by a gunman who fired shots
at her ministerial car.
471
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,005
- Er... Shut the door, Rob.
- (News report continues)
472
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,129
I've had a call from Anne Sampson,
SO15 Commander.
473
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,043
They want to go over
some things with you.
474
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,728
Just me or...
475
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,883
Oh, Christ, Mike. Jesus Christ...
476
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,566
Look, mate, Sampson was at pains to point out
477
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,768
she doesn't want to jeopardise
our working relationship,
478
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,569
guarantees complete discretion.
479
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,291
- This is a voluntary interview...
- It wasn't even my idea!
480
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,001
...a voluntary interview
and consent to forensic searches.
481
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,611
Searches for what'?
482
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,163
They need to examine your home
and vehicle for traces of explosives.
483
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,447
What'? Mike'? Seriously?
484
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,046
Look, OK'? No one needs to know
anything about it.
485
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,248
- We'll get you the best solicitor.
- For God's sake! What'? Mike'?
486
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,561
Why is this all on me'?
Are they gonna interview you'?
487
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,404
I said enough.
488
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,761
They won't find anything.
489
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,764
There's a simple, plausible story
for you to stick to.
490
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,161
And you will stick to it.
491
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,400
POLICE RADIO: We've got post, Emma.
492
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,131
You all right to pick it up?
We're at the end of the road.
493
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,202
On my Way-
494
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,248
I'll be back in a sec.
495
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,762
- (Front door closes)
- You've barely eaten.
496
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,251
I need to get back to work.
497
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,168
You're not well enough.
498
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,929
Somethings going on,
something I can't figure out.
499
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,729
What makes you say that'?
500
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,604
Someone tampered with my gun.
501
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,843
It was behind a skirting board,
then I shifted it.
502
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Someone had to access my flat,
carried out a thorough search.
503
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,451
Well, the... the police searched your flat.
504
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,000
Yeah, if they found
an illegal firearm, they'd seize it.
505
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,048
They wouldn't just change out
the bullets for blanks.
506
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,409
No, this was someone else,
someone with expertise.
507
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,121
Someone...with an agenda.
508
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,006
(Exhales) Who would that be'?
509
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,602
For the DIR Mr Macdonald
is being interviewed on a voluntary basis
510
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,729
and has chosen to be
accompanied by a solicitor.
511
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,325
Thank you for assisting our inquiry.
512
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,368
Anything to help, anything at all.
513
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,481
Let's start with the attack
on St Matthew's College.
514
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,810
What were your movements that day, sir'?
515
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,684
Er... Commons that morning,
then back to the Home Office.
516
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,445
You didn't travel with
the Home Secretary and her team'?
517
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,931
Unfortunately I couldn't.
518
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,607
There's um...too much to deal with
following the vote on the RIPA-l 8 bill.
519
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,569
More like "fortunately".
520
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,881
Do you normally skip big speeches?
521
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,567
I was frustrated not to be there
but I was needed in the office.
522
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,731
For the DIR I'm showing Mr Macdonald
video capture images
523
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,768
from the Palace of Westminster.
524
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,164
Who are seen in these images?
525
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,086
I am and...Tahir Mahmood.
526
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,642
And how would you describe
your relationship with Tahir Mahmood?
527
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,609
- Good.
- Why are you lying to us, Mr Macdonald'?
528
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,329
My client is telling the truth.
529
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,210
Provide some basis for that question
or kindly withdraw it.
530
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,886
A forensic lip-reader has examined the CCTV.
531
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,931
According to her transcript, the conversation
between you appears acrimonious.
532
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:20,685
Politics is a high-stress business.
533
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,570
There are words and then
it's all forgotten over a few beers.
534
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,841
Therefore it is truthful to say that you had
a good relationship with Mahmood.
535
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,962
But I didn't know him well. We weren't close.
536
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,764
Obviously we're all extremely shocked
to think he might be involved.
537
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,680
So, what's going on here, then, Mr Macdonald'?
538
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,731
I was um...
539
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,041
I'm... (Clears throat)
540
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,363
...providing Tahir with documents
relating to the Home Secretary's speech.
541
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,681
Where did you obtain the briefcase?
542
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,041
Erm... It...
543
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,248
Er... It... It was Tahifis.
544
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,369
- You took a long time to answer.
- Sorry, it's been a very difficult time,
545
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,807
and I couldn't immediately recall.
546
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,366
It was Tahifis. He left it with me,
and I was returning it to him.
547
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,488
Was there anything suspicious
about the briefcase?
548
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,050
Not that I can think of.
549
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,283
If you were just giving him documents,
why the need for the briefcase?
550
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,727
It seemed easier that way,
and we were returning his briefcase.
551
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,768
"We"?
552
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,564
L.
553
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320
We've managed to get Mahmoods
communication history.
554
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,882
A call was received to his phone
before the bombing.
555
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,930
Now according to his contacts,
it's listed as your number.
556
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,367
What was the purpose of this call,
Mr Macdonald'?
557
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,810
Probably I just called him
to make sure that everything was OK.
558
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,644
It's an important speech
559
00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:08,882
and I was frustrated not to be there in support
560
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,850
- Everything wasn't OK, though, was it'?
- I'm sorry?
561
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400
Mahmood attempted to interrupt
the Home Secretary's speech.
562
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,324
- Not on my account.
- Odd, though, isn't it'?
563
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,370
Literally a couple of minutes
before Mahmood rushes backstage,
564
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,726
he receives a call from you.
565
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,808
You sure he didn't tell you
he needed to do that'?
566
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,531
- Certain.
- Didn't seek your advice about it'?
567
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,888
No. Whatever Tahir was doing,
I'm completely in the dark about it.
568
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,127
These are all of Mahmoods movements.
569
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,441
With the Home Secretary.
570
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,682
Receiving a call off Rob Macdonald.
571
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,528
Being stopped by David Budd.
572
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,965
(Click)
573
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,527
Why didn't he spot the bomb'?
574
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:39,446
- Hello.
- Sir.
575
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,966
Police Sergeant Budd. I'd like to speak
to your security manager, please.
576
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,361
He'll remember me -
we had a few briefings when I stayed here.
577
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,283
Certainly, sir.
578
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,850
Security.
579
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,844
Right. This is the time I'm interested in.
The Home Secretary received a visitor.
580
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,126
OK. (Clicks)
581
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:59,647
Ten o'clock.
582
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,250
- What happened there?
- Sorry, Dave, it shouldn't do that.
583
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,281
Shit. Let's look at the lobby, or the lifts?
See if we can nab him that way.
584
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,600
OK.
585
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,969
(Clicking)
586
00:43:49,720 --> 00:43:51,688
Stair access?
587
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,442
I don't know what to say, mate.
588
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,286
Chris, no bullshit now.
Who's had access to these hard drives?
589
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,489
I checked the logs already. No one's been at it.
590
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,364
No one.
591
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,651
Do you have any leads yet
on Mahmood having any accomplices
592
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,688
or association with terrorist groups?
593
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,240
No, ma'am. All the searches so far
relating to Rob Macdonald
594
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,288
have failed to detect
any traces of explosives.
595
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,364
And it's still unclear if the device
was in the briefcase all along
596
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,284
or if Mahmood made the pickup
within the venue.
597
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,967
Plus there's still no CCTV
of any of his backstage activity.
598
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,568
All right.
599
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,211
What's the latest re David Budd'?
600
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,330
So far, the CCTV does appear
to support Budd's version of events.
601
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,048
He's still a person of interest, ma'am.
602
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:00,246
We've retaken responsibility
for interviewing Nadia Ali.
603
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,368
She's our best lead to the bomb-maker.
604
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,601
She's terrified, though.
605
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,523
Still in thrall to her husband.
606
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,444
However, speaking of PS Budd,
607
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,491
I behave there's a shun-cut
into convincing her she can trust us.
608
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,169
KEARNEY: A police spokesman
repeated concerns
609
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,322
the blasts are the work
of a single bomb-maker.
610
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,290
COMMISSIONER: We have a prime suspect
in the attack on St Matthew's College
611
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,170
that killed the former
Home Secretary, Julia Montague.
612
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:25,685
MIKE ON RADIO:
..continuing to withhold the name
613
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,321
of the suicide bomber
responsible for (he attack.
614
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,483
It is not yet known if he was acting alone,
615
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,005
nor is it yet confirmed
616
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,085
whether he was a member
of a recognised terrorist organisation.
617
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,004
- What's with the new look'?- Mike Travis in the House of Commons today.
618
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,243
And what now for RIPA-18?
619
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,481
Having lost its...
620
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,088
The hat'?
621
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,208
Keeps my head warm.
622
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:55,888
Do me a favour, mate,
and remove the headgear.
623
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,248
You're going to have to at some point.
624
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,648
You didn't get that in the explosion.
What happened'?
625
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,090
A gas ring was playing up.
626
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,045
I had my head right over the hob,
627
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,647
didn't...realise the gas was open
on one of the other rings.
628
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:19,529
When I hit the spark...
629
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,481
RAYBURN: Nadia,
thank you very much for speaking to us.
630
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,645
If anythings unclear, please feel free
to consult with your solicitor
631
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:36,449
or your Appropriate Adult.
632
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,931
If at any time you need to stop,
please just say so.
633
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,648
Do you understand?
634
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,691
Yes.
635
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,886
I'm now going to hand you over
to Police Sergeant Budd.
636
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,770
- As-salamu alaykum.
- Wa alaykumu as-salam.
637
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,087
For the DIR, I said "Peace be upon you,"
638
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,891
and the interviewee replied,
"And also upon you."
639
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,803
So, Nadia, how are you doing?
640
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,921
This is all very...intimidating.
641
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:12,480
That's why the officers here
642
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,245
thought it would be a good idea
for me to talk with you.
643
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,564
That was scary...
644
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,328
on the train, when we met.
645
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,567
I'm really glad that no one got hurt that day.
646
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,650
I am too. Thank you for helping me.
647
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,728
Nadia, what I'd like to do
is ask you some questions
648
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,531
about the bomb
you intended to use on the train.
649
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,648
Would that be all right'?
650
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,687
Sorry, Nadia,
is it OK if you could speak up...
651
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,524
for the recording'?
652
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,250
Oh, sorry. Yes.
653
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,325
How did you obtain the bomb'?
654
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,923
I know you're frightened,
but we can protect you.
655
00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,085
Now you believe me, don't you'?
656
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,641
Sorry, Nadia...
657
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,688
Oh, sorry. Erm... Yes.
658
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,768
Where did the bomb come from'?
659
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,520
My husband.
660
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,049
At this point, I should note for the tape
661
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,170
that I've briefed my client
regarding the legal compellability of a spouse.
662
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:29,402
And Media's Appropriate Adult
663
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:33,485
is satisfied that she's cooperating
of her own free will.
664
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,528
Thank you.
665
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,842
Your husband gave you the bomb to wear'?
666
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,249
Yes.
667
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:48,530
I know this is very upsetting.
But you're doing really well.
668
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,250
Really well.
669
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,048
Did your husband build the bomb himself?
670
00:48:59,240 --> 00:49:01,322
Take your time answering.
671
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,005
Did he build it'?
672
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,041
No.
673
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,202
He got it from someone else'?
674
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:24,290
Nadia, we're desperate to find the person
who's been creating these devices.
675
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,011
He's killed and wounded dozens of people,
676
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,208
and he'll kill more if we don't catch him.
677
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,650
He said it was a gift.
678
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,326
A gift'? Who from'?
679
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,001
He wouldn't tell me.
680
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,845
OK, you're doing great.
681
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,524
This is really helpful.
682
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,882
Perhaps he had meetings with someone?
683
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:56,045
I was never allowed.
684
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,691
You weren't allowed to know
who he was meeting?
685
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,604
Sometimes he would lock me in the house
when he went out.
686
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,446
That must have been very frightening...
and upsetting.
687
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,368
Were there any names he mentioned?
688
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,761
Or people he was close to
that you were suspicious of'?
689
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,364
There was only one time...
690
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,681
What happened'?
691
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,411
He locked me in the house,
but I was crying so loud
692
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,130
he thought the neighbours might hear.
693
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,128
What did he do'?
694
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,044
He forced me into his car.
He made me go with him.
695
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,211
Where'?
696
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,049
I don't know. A car park.
697
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,851
- In London'?
- I don't know. I think so.
698
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:51,044
Was it a long drive or short?
How many minutes?
699
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,290
20. No more.
700
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,330
That's great, that's great.
701
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,007
What happened in this car park'?
702
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,527
He met with a man.
The man gave him something.
703
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,203
That's very important information.
704
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,645
Well done, Nadia.
705
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,648
What did this man give your husband?
706
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,404
I can't remember.
707
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,684
Could it have been a piece of luggage
or a case of some son'?
708
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,410
David.
709
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,120
You don't remember what the item was'?
710
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:31,764
The interviewee is shaking her head.
711
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,082
Can you describe this man'?
712
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,966
No one can hum you, Nadia.
You're safe now.
713
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,522
Was he an Asian man'?
714
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,966
The interviewee is nodding.
Good, thank you, Nadia.
715
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,087
Have you ever seen
any of these men before?
716
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,929
Just...take your time.
717
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,682
Erm... I don't know. I... Maybe.
718
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,687
I think we should take a break now, Nadia.
719
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,241
I'm going to ask my colleagues
to get together some maps
720
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,651
and some satellite photos,
721
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:14,371
and we're going to see
if you can help us locate this car park.
722
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,327
DS Rayburn pausing interview at 15:50.
723
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,050
(Click)
724
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,045
Cheers.
725
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,967
Well done in there.
726
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,008
Feels like we're finally
getting somewhere at last.
727
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,161
If we're able to locate where her
husband met with the bomb supplier,
728
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,402
maybe Nadia can pick him out from CCTV.
729
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,369
Yeah. We'll see.
730
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,204
Louise.
731
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,245
Stuffs..happening...behind the scenes.
732
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,166
Someone acquired access to my flat
without my knowledge.
733
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:03,529
We carried out a search.
There was no sign of forced entry.
734
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,207
There's more to this, Louise. Take Tahir
Mahmoods position at the Home Office.
735
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,567
If he's really the bomber,
he wasn't vetted properly.
736
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,005
Who's in charge of vetting?
737
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,924
The bosses are the ones
in a slanging match with the Security Service.
738
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,607
- Way above my pay grade.
- Tahir couldn't have been acting alone.
739
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,047
He wasn't carrying the bomb
when I searched that briefcase.
740
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:21,963
Someone else we don't know about
741
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,441
either gave it to him
or planted it for him to pick up.
742
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,921
- Someone with access.
- Well, who'?
743
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,968
(Low conversation)
744
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,647
After the Home Secretary
moved to the Blackwood Hotel,
745
00:54:33,720 --> 00:54:36,326
someone acquired clearance
to make a secret visit to her suite.
746
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,441
He had an insight into her movements,
was able to bypass our security.
747
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,807
He gave the name Richard Longcross.
748
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,087
I viewed CCTV from the hotel.
749
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,561
It's been tampered with,
so there's no evidence of his visit.
750
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,608
Security Service, I'm sure of it.
751
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,569
I'm not investigating the Security Service.
752
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,722
I'm investigating Tahir Mahmood.
753
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,609
I'm sorry, David. End of.
754
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,251
The Principal was killed on my watch.
755
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,563
I want to be part of
finding the bastards that did it.
756
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,041
Maybe that's a reason for you not to be.
757
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,408
SHARMA: This is grade-A bullshit.
758
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,450
Sampson involving him in the inquiry
while he's still a person of interest.
759
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,367
Two attacks on the Home Secretary:
Budd PPO for both, Mahmoods briefcase.
760
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,684
I don't trust him.
761
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,603
He's hiding something.
762
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,167
- Anything?
- No, nothing yet.
763
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,289
(Click)
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